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Sat Apr 19 2014 3:40 am EST

PJ- Boston is still probably the favorites. But I think Detroitis a nightmare matchup for them. If there is one team in this league that isn't rattled in their transition game under heavy pressure, it's Detroit. If you can get away from Boston's forecheck they are still good, but beatable.

Ola


Fri Apr 18 2014 9:24 pm EST

F8Ck"n REALITY chE#4K!!!! guys (and gals, wrt NN)... The NYRs were playin' at home, had the refs calling a tight game, and the FLyers were out of sync... despite all these biased conditions.. it was a 1-1 game w 15 minutes to go... not to piss on the parade.... just sayin', its a long ways to the finish line! CANT WAIT till SUN

schneidw


Fri Apr 18 2014 9:19 pm EST

NBC has Butch Boring on its broadcasts now?....Wings will not be an easy out....Disciplined, well coached and getting healthy at the right time....

PJ


Fri Apr 18 2014 9:00 pm EST

Howard shuts out the Bruins to win game one. IT CAN BE DONE

Messier11


Fri Apr 18 2014 8:36 pm EST

This Redwing-Bruin game is the most exciting game so far. Catch it still if you can. 0-0 right now. What pace and goaltending. This new playoff format has created some great first round matchups

NCRanger


Fri Apr 18 2014 7:30 pm EST

Mfred apparently Richards and msl gave a speech to the team about winning it all...: the are the experienced vet leaders for the nyr..with a ring... I think carcillo has one too...

stevielegs


Fri Apr 18 2014 7:07 pm EST

Nick....would love it if Richards restructured his contract to stay 2 more years. To me this guy with the exception of last year has been as advertised if you look at his career stats......and a good guy in the clubhouse apparently.

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 18 2014 6:41 pm EST

I hope Richards wins the cup this season......

stevielegs


Fri Apr 18 2014 6:00 pm EST

I hope Richards wins the Conn Smythe. And then takes it to his new team next year. Given the cap rules, not buying him out would be the Ultimate Sather. Spend the dough on Stastny or someone still under 30.

Nick


Fri Apr 18 2014 5:25 pm EST

Ranger47 - Before I say they are playing into the Rangers hand, I'd like to see what they come up with for Game 2...Small changes can often make big differecnes..Hopefully not..

Hospo


Fri Apr 18 2014 4:20 pm EST

wear down

Ranger47


Fri Apr 18 2014 4:19 pm EST

Hospo: The Flyers have to try something different because it's obvious that the dump in strategy was unsuccessful in Game 1. But, I think they are playing into the Rangers hand and if they lose Game 2 badly I expect them to return to the dump in strategy for the remainder of the series. After all, it's what they are built to do best (even if it's not working right now). It would allow them to possibly ear down the Ranger D if the series goes long enough - kind of like Marciano who pummeled the body until the hands fell down so he could knock you out. Otherwise the remaining games would be like Marciano trying to box his way to the win against Ali.

Ranger47


Fri Apr 18 2014 4:14 pm EST

Had the most vivid dream last night watching Hank lifting the CUP this year.....hey who knows!!!!!

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 18 2014 4:12 pm EST

....ditto my feeling on the Hartnell hit......didn't think it was dirty but if MCD's shoulder survived that I'm pretty sure he's ok.......

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 18 2014 4:02 pm EST

RF4L - That is true...although I am not as impressed with FLyers forwards as some on here, except when they are able to bang/cycle in the offensive zone....Who knows, maybe it's just some doubt settling in on the FLyers---that would be a good thing....It shouldn't, the series is far from over..

Hospo


Fri Apr 18 2014 3:57 pm EST

Hospo: Dunno how that plays to their strengths - they have 3 good forward lines with size and physicality. Guess we'll find out soon enough!!

RF4L


Fri Apr 18 2014 3:49 pm EST

Ranger47 - From what I have read, it seems like the FLyers, as they should, are already ditching that strategy and are looking to rag and possess the puck more and maybe slow/muddle the game in the neutral zone..trying to make the game a dull chess match and waiting for mistakes like it was in the boring 2nd period...could be their best adaptive move.....

Hospo


Fri Apr 18 2014 3:37 pm EST

sting

Ranger47


Fri Apr 18 2014 3:37 pm EST

The Ranger D ability to move the puck forward coupled with the speed of many of our forwards causing the Philly D to back up is why the Rangers should win this series easily. If the Flyers cannot get dump in and check our D to work this should be a very short series. As they say in baseball, speed is the one thing you can use on both offense and defense - and we have it over Philly. To paraphrase Mohammad Ali, "float like a Kamensky, stink like a bee, your forwards can't check what your eyes can't see (Rumble young man rumble!)".

Ranger47


Fri Apr 18 2014 3:18 pm EST

Honestly was shocked MCD didn't blow out his shoulder on the Hartnell run on 1st Flyer goal. Loved the mean cross-check on Giroux- right back at you bitches! MZA best forward on the team every night-fearless. MSL acting like a role player rather than the game breaker we thought we were getting. Shoot the puck and start playing with heart. Klein continues to provide steady, tough D. I hope Mase plays, think he's being rushed, not 100%. Flyer mentality never changes.

puckyou


Fri Apr 18 2014 3:14 pm EST

Rf4l - That, and the FLyers didn't have the puck!!!...One thing, I like this D a lot better for the POs with Klein than DZ..But DZ will have his day again eventually

Hospo


Fri Apr 18 2014 3:02 pm EST

I think one reason the dump in, chase and hit isn't too effective is because the Ranger D is mobile. They get on the puck quickly and are able to move it, way more often than not, before becoming vulnerable to the forecheck.

RF4L


Fri Apr 18 2014 2:42 pm EST

Wildcard: I meant to state that we must have a pick coming back in addition to the possibilty of taking back a contract in return which we could buy out. Who knows, maybe that returning player with contract could then be traded again (got to think beyond my man, it's called, derivatives) as for Nash's point production @ $7.8 mill p/y, MSL should cover most of that or all that, and just maybe we could add a guy like Chris Stewart for $3.75-$4mill per........ In any event, I'll let it go until after OUR Playoff Season..

mf


Fri Apr 18 2014 2:01 pm EST

MF - Still with the trades? :) Love your persistence!.....MF/WILD - With me, part of the beauty of the PO (and actually, post deadlibne) is I don't think about trades or who to get rid of, ..I might quibble about the lineup but we are what we are till the draft...We'll see by the end of the POs what changes need to be made and what players are or aren't part of the winning equation,,,

Hospo


Fri Apr 18 2014 1:52 pm EST

mf: If Richards sets a all time record for SC scoring and leads the Rangers to the cup he needs to be bought out. If he retires early it will destroy the Rangers cap for years. Too much risk. Also, why is everyone so keen on getting rid of Nash....he had 26 goals and missed a big chunk of the year, and played really poorly for some of the games he did play....and he still had over 20 goals. So yeah...lets dump him for a contract to buy out...makes perfect sense...

Wildcard


Fri Apr 18 2014 1:49 pm EST

stevielegs: That was before McD got his legs under him, he talked about the first period being rough, they continued to try to do the same thing and it didn't even come close to working after that.

Wildcard


Fri Apr 18 2014 1:39 pm EST

While we go into this series less "beat up" than in previous years, hopefully we learned that winning series quickly (and thereby avoiding injuries and getting worn down) is a key to making a good Cup run. So, let's do our best to beat Filthy as quickly as possible. As for the other matchups, let's hope the BJs rebound and pound Pitt, and the magic of the Redwings continues and they upset the Bruins....

Ranger47


Fri Apr 18 2014 1:38 pm EST

wild it worked on their 1 goal....mcd was asleep.....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 18 2014 1:23 pm EST

EZ/PA: Are you lurking & laying low behind enemy lines in Pennsyltucky? Where you at brother? ;-)

mf


Fri Apr 18 2014 1:20 pm EST

With the way Brad Richards is playing I'm wondering if he's a keeper... Fast is playing well, and Kreider will return eventually.. I'd like to trade Nash out West at seasons end, if he'd agree to it, maybe we can get a draft pick & or a contract that we would turn around & buy out (instead of buying out BRichards). That could add incentive to whoever we trade with, especially if they're in "Cap-Hell." .....

mf


Fri Apr 18 2014 12:59 pm EST

York, thanks for the great insight on Fast.......As far as the game is concerned, yes it is only one game but the Rangers got off on a the right foot. You really do not wanna lose the opening game at home. At the same time, you would want to sweep the first 2 games because the Rangers play so well on the road and would have such a good frame of mind heading to Philthy. Filthy loves to attempt the injury type hits.........there was one play where Staal was steam rolled with his back turned and he was hit head first into the end boards....He was fuggin pissed when that happened. (in 3rd period)

TradeStar28


Fri Apr 18 2014 11:58 am EST

stevielegs: Flyers already realize that dumping it in and tying to intimidate the Rangers D doesn't work...they move the puck to quickly and are not afraid of taking a hit...I mean it does happen every game for crying out loud LOL

Wildcard


Fri Apr 18 2014 11:51 am EST

Pat Leonard ✔ @PLeonardNYDN Well, yeah RT @BroadStBull: Berube says Flyers will try to skate puck into zone more and have fewer dump ins. Reply Retweet

stevielegs


Fri Apr 18 2014 11:51 am EST

Steve Zipay ✔ @stevezipay Carcillo, Hagelin on ice, as is Lundqvist, who has already faced more shots that last night...

stevielegs


Fri Apr 18 2014 11:42 am EST

Thought Fast had a really good game last night, including an assist on the Hagelin goal. I'm optimistic that the line will click and be a factor in our Cup run.

Ranger47


Fri Apr 18 2014 11:40 am EST

jnyr....Have to disagree on Richards play 5 on 5.....That line was effective forechecking and Richards was a big part of that including a steal that led to a great scoring chance....He can be a liability in the D zone due to lack of speed but moving Stepan and his playmaking skills to that line would be a waste....Also, Stepan's strength is hardly his skating speed....

PJ


Fri Apr 18 2014 11:18 am EST

I had to watch the Flyers broadcast down here ... the announcer sounded on each Ranger goal like he was announcing the death of his dog. Sucked a lot of joy out of it. But here at work I watched the highlights from what I think was the Canadian TV call, and that was excellent. I'd love to be wrong about this series because Flyer fans are just not an acceptable breed. Of course I'm sure they say the same about NYR fans.

Nick


Fri Apr 18 2014 11:04 am EST

Steve Zipay ✔ @stevezipay Miller, Boyle, Dorsett, Falk, Talbot, Diaz among those on ice for #NYR optional... Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 6m New York Rangers ✔ @NYRangers 12:00 noon optional practice just about to get underway at the MSG Training Center..Game 2 vs. Flyers Sunday

stevielegs


Fri Apr 18 2014 11:02 am EST

guess their hope is mason..... Tim Panaccio ✔ @tpanotchCSN Mason rotating his neck few times on ice during the workout. Again suggests whiplash to me ⌘ Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 15m Sam Carchidi @BroadStBull Mason looking sharp as he gloves shots from backup players. Expand 17m Sam Carchidi @BroadStBull Mason keeps shaking his head as if he has cobwebs in it.

stevielegs


Fri Apr 18 2014 10:56 am EST

For some...and no problem...fans are fans

Hospo


Fri Apr 18 2014 10:47 am EST

hospo I t would be series over, one and done.....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 18 2014 10:44 am EST

Stevie - Sorrow? C'mon, it's hockey...Panic? Anger? Maybe...:)..Still, a long series..maybe..:)..WILD/RF4L- Agree on MCD..What a trade by Sather!....Speaking of D, I thought all 6 of them played well after McD worked off his rust...Good defense, handled the hitting, and moved the puck..Hope it keeps up..

Hospo


Fri Apr 18 2014 10:27 am EST

RF4L: Watching McD play, if he can get consistent on the top end, he will be talked about in the same breath and a Lindstrom, I mean he is a big part of completely shutting down a top end player last night, and does the same to every teams top player, when he is at the top of his game he makes offensive moves that are amazing and is really unstoppable, there are very few Dmen like that, usually there is only one in the NHL at any given time, maybe 2, but McD is a rare Dman when he is on top of his game, and if he can stay there the Noris will have his name on it many times.

Wildcard


Fri Apr 18 2014 10:24 am EST

I can just imagine the sorrow if they lost last night......

stevielegs


Fri Apr 18 2014 9:50 am EST

McDonagh's move on the 2nd PP goal was very Leetch-esque. He has done that a few times this year. Sign on confidence and hopefully big things to come for him in his career.

pete


Fri Apr 18 2014 9:32 am EST

CMARK its funny well sad how torts truly has made so many enemies of players that they take veiled shots at him with truth

York18


Fri Apr 18 2014 9:05 am EST

Solid game last night with all hands on deck....Our fourth line is far superior to the Cryers 4th .. gives a huge advantage....the story I kept hearing was that Babcock asked AV if he could use Nash on the PK just prior to the Olympics ... I can't recall just when Nash started on the PK and don't know if the story has any merit... but he sure is effective in that role

sjw


Fri Apr 18 2014 8:59 am EST

Hilarious picture of Zucc celebrating his goal in the online version of The Post...he looks like an insane hobbit! Love it!

JFC31


Fri Apr 18 2014 8:55 am EST

The ONLY times the Flyers were effective last night were when they could get in on the Ranger D-men...OTOH, the Rangers prevented this from happening often by controlling the puck...Thye keep it up, Flyers have zero chance...As far as adapting, Rangers need to do nothing yet and it's Up to the Flers to try and find a way to change the puck possesion

Hospo


Fri Apr 18 2014 7:53 am EST

Nash on the PK is quite effective and his break-out ability serves to help keep the opposing PP on its toes a little. There was one PK where he and Stepan created together in about 20 seconds 3 or 4 chances and had the Philly PPers running around in their own end like headless chickens. Pretty impressive. And funny. How interesting that Tortorella and then AV never tried him there - it wasn't until AV saw Nash taking a regular turn on the Canada PK in the Olympics that he suddenly become a regular on the Ranger PK. Better late than never I say! Nash's big reach helps defend in the Ranger zone, too, so it's not like he's only there to try to score.

RF4L


Fri Apr 18 2014 7:43 am EST

Saw about 1/2 the game, from mid-way thru the 2nd onward. That awesome double PP effort in the 3rd is EXACTLY what has to happen. BR probably, on the 3rd period alone, upped his worth this summer bigtime! Lost a little (perhaps) in the joy of those PP goals and the win is the little move McD made about 3 passes before the first goal, a subtle but very skilled probably automatic/instinctive play just inside the blueline moving the puck around one the PKers, that resulted in 5 on 3 for a few precious seconds (that resulted in a goal). Geeesh, what is McD's upside anyways?

RF4L


Fri Apr 18 2014 6:17 am EST

CMARK its funny well sad how torts truly has made so many enemies of players that they take veiled shots at him with truth

York18


Fri Apr 18 2014 6:06 am EST

Trade I like fast and have said since Jan that he was ready to make the next step but figured they were waiting till next year. Kreider being injured gave him and early chance. When Kreider comes back if the team is rolling and winning I wouldn't diaturb it. Fast understands playoff hockey without the pick despite the size difference fast is the more physical of the two and is way better without the puck where as Kreider for all his offense still struggles without the puck and losses his edge for stretches not something I would like to see in tr playoffs. AV is very strange in terms of how he wants to use guys at times so I have no idea what he will do but if you are winning I believe you do nothing to disturb that.

York18


Fri Apr 18 2014 6:04 am EST

1 down, 3 to go. Awsome game in so many ways, but still 3 to go...

Ola


Fri Apr 18 2014 5:56 am EST

Msl showed his vet leadership and contribution . Nash did ok, as long as the Cryers key on him , his linemates should benefit..::. And the 4 th line did their job because they were allowed to.... Just hope the coach remembers that rather than the bs shortening of the bench if they are down by a goal in the 3 rd.... 1 st battle won, need to win 3 more..... To win the first war.....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 18 2014 5:40 am EST

36-15 shots! Keep that up (withHank) and break out the brooms! As I said Fuck Filthy! Can't wait for game 2

BONGO


Fri Apr 18 2014 3:25 am EST

Talk about poetic justice.....2 late power play goals on that crap team from Philly....nothing sweeter than that.......my thoughts on the game differ from the general consensus....I thought Brassard, Zucc and Puliot was our best line......thought the fourth line was pretty good. I thought Hags & Fast were outstanding and controlled the play down low. Richards 5 on 5 was brutal......he can't skate with those guys......Thought Nash was OK.....Step - good, St. Louis 5 on 5 looked lost. I get the importance of the PP but thought those two (Rich and St. L) were terrible up until that point. If it's me, I put Step with Hags and Fast....at least he can keep up. That gives us 3 solid lines...then what you get from Rich, St.L and Nash is a bonus. Thought Girardi was bad early but improved as game went on.......McD rusty early as well......This was a game you had to win.....can't loose when your goalie is all world playing a backup. Emery looked shaky.....pucks to the net boys.....to many pucks wide to suit me. Late penalties probably stopped the Flyers from really gooning it up.....would love more beef in the line up.....but we have been there numerous times

jnyr


Thu Apr 17 2014 11:42 pm EST

AS for picking guys out, I thought the entire team played well/solid...covered for each other on D...worked well together on Offense...Did the little things on offense...battled and fought..little things like Brassard refusing to be moved from near the goalie before a score..Good stuff..

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 11:37 pm EST

Blues in Triple OT..exciting game

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 11:32 pm EST

This was a solid win in the end. I too thought the Rangers didn't get enough quality chances on EMERY through the first two periods. But, was we have discussed here, the PP was key and it needed to be. The Rangers cannot goon it up like the Flyers. They must rely on the PP to keep things honest. Officially they were 2 for 6 but the last two PPs were very late in the game when the Rangers were just trying to run the clock. For all intents and purposes they were 50% on the PP when it mattered. That needs to continue. RICHARDS was really good and needs to be applauded for the way he played. STEPAN was good when it mattered. He didn't get an assist on the first PP goal but it never happens without his very nice entry into the zone. The MZA line was solid, as was the 4th line. I thought BOYLE played a strong game and looked more like he did a few years ago. HANK wasn't tested too much but he was there when he was. I thought the Rangers D did an excellent job of limiting the Flyers chances. Also, I wanted to single out FAST for playing a solid, smart game. He may not have been noticeably spectacular but I saw multiple instances where he calmly took a hit to move a puck cleanly to a teammate. He also was defensively sound in the game. My one big gripe about the game was the way the Rangers handled the puck in their own end. They didn't seem to get the memo that the Playoffs have started. Instead of moving the puck quickly the constantly hung on the puck and showed very little urgency in moving it. The Flyers pounced all over the Rangers in the defensive end causing turnovers. The Rangers need to move the puck much more quickly in the defensive zone. They can't hang onto it and try to casually make a play. I thought their puck movement in the NZ and offensive zone was much better then it was in the defensive zone. NASH ended up with a bunch of shots but outside of the chance he had late I couldn't remember any of them. He looked better then he did in last year's playoffs but not much better.....not enough. MSL looked like he has the last few games. He looks involved but he doesn't look like the guy that I remember in Tampa. He was a damn shark there. He doesn't look that way in a Ranger uniform. Finally, I thought McSSIAH looked like he had missed a few weeks in the first period. His game got better through the 2nd and 3rd. Hopefully he isn't still carrying some lingering pain because the Rangers really need him playing the way he was just before that injury.

Vic


Thu Apr 17 2014 11:31 pm EST

Nice workman-like victory..Patient and then pounced on the PP,..The Rangers were the far better team tonight.....Better...smarter....more disciplined..and better prepared and coached..Tip my hat to AV, he had the team ready to play,,and with a plan..contrary to my doubts......The FLyers were grasping..and pretty mild till the end...Game 2 will be tougher but the Rangers should know they have the better team

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:53 pm EST

Oh, did anyone hear Dale Weise's comment about Torts hating to play his 4th line?

ColoradoMark


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:35 pm EST

This team is fun to watch, and potentially built for a long run. The differences a coaching staff makes is evident: balanced ice-time, special-teams, "watchability" and the team looks well conditioned but not on the verge of wearing down. Yeah, we aren't as tough as we were under Torts, but it seems like our guys are less injury prone. I'm not absolving players, or putting all the blame on Torts, but AV's impact on Kreids, Mac (PP) Zucc, a reborn Rich and confidence in his 4th line is pretty obvious. And would Poulliot be a Ranger if Torts was coach? It's only one game, but a few PP goals will go a long way in bringing that December Swagger back to the Rangers.

ColoradoMark


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:30 pm EST

Great win,,,,Rangers played very well looked very fast,,,,,MZ MCD had great games and I think this was BRADS best game as a Ranger,,,the animals looked slow....and then played like the true animals they are and it cost them,,Hey Mr Snyder,Thank you for that winning culture you got down in Philly,,,,,,it will be another 40 years until you idiots wake up and play hockey,,,,,Lets go rangerssssssssssssssssssss!!!

thedugster


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:30 pm EST

Couldn't see the game on vacation here in FLA, but followed via updates on my iPhone. So glad we kicked their asses....held them to 15 shots!!! Most important to me is that we made them PAY on the 4 minute PP...that is a huge factor for us against Philthy. Make them pay for their dirty BS by scoring on the PP and they won't be able to intimidate. Great win!!!

JFC31


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:29 pm EST

mf...Agree on Stepan....He had a real good game....A PP goal and was good on the PK also....No passengers in this game....Still want more from Nash but he was going to the net in the third....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:24 pm EST

IMO: Derek Stepan (who I've bashed on plenty) put in a real solid all around performance tonight. He blocked a shot or two, killed penalties, created rushes both man down & on even strength, scored, absorbed the hits.... Definately one of tonights unsung hero's....

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:20 pm EST

Hey Yorkie....what are your thoughts on a guy like Jesper Fast? Does he belong here? And let's say Chris Kreider comes back .....what does AV do to the lineup?

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:11 pm EST

Great team effort tonight...was a little concerned about all the "whammy" stats 9-0 vs Flyers at home, Hank 3-0 in game 1's the Emery Backup Goalie story....and the Flyers scoring on their first shot on goal! But kudos to every player.....especially Richards, Boyle, Bras, Pool, and MZA!!!

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 17 2014 9:46 pm EST

Don't miss Eminger either :) and Boyle getting almost 19 min a night of ice time.

DOUBLEN


Thu Apr 17 2014 9:42 pm EST

TB: Callahan -2 w 0 shots on goal....ouch

schneidw


Thu Apr 17 2014 9:34 pm EST

NN- great point about balanced playing time... especially on D... guess you don't miss Bickel eh?

schneidw


Thu Apr 17 2014 9:21 pm EST

Oh and great game by Richards....If he keeps going well it could be huge for us....Hard to believe he was benched a year ago......

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 9:13 pm EST

York:exactly. I said it earlier. The rangers need to be more aggressive finishing their checks, but they can't focus on the rougher stuff...that's the Flyers game. By the middle of the third the Flyers were trying to hit harder and it got them a double minor. Next game either the Flyers will be on the PK a lot again or they will be trying to play the Rangers game and that's NOT their game.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 17 2014 9:08 pm EST

I knew it was gonna be a good 3rd when I saw my 2 fav commercials before the period- the Bay Ridge Honda chick - Wa Wa Wee Wa...and The Grand Prospect Hall - We Make a Your Dreams Come a True!!

limbo


Thu Apr 17 2014 9:03 pm EST

NN: Yes indeed.. :-> Game Boxscore for anyone interested ... http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/boxscore?id=2013030141

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:52 pm EST

One thing that does bother me is incidents like Giroux swinging the stick at Moore's head and then slashing at another Ranger's hand is going to result in an injury....The league should look at that swing at the head but they won't....That was ridiculous....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:49 pm EST

MF: I was actually just looking at the ice time; very balanced. 4th line average almost 10 min; and the top lines no more than 19 and change. Defense..ranged from 16-22. Nice for a change that they can actually ice 6 or even 7 NHL d-men.

DOUBLEN


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:48 pm EST

Refs set the tone the flyers bs will be called. As many of us have said playing stupid doesn't win you games scoring goals does and if the flyers are going to spend a lot of time on the pk they will struggle to score. We sure looked small and bullied tonight didn't we? That was sarcasm.

York18


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:47 pm EST

They can't help themselves and had to continue the crap after the final whistle....Penalties keep getting called and we will win this....Wild's recipe for winning worked in this one.....Good game by several players....McD got better as the game went on....Our entire D was great tonight....Good feeling to have for the weekend....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:43 pm EST

Sweet win, all four goals were on solid shots... Outside of those, seems like we really didn't test Emery that much, maybe one or two occassions that I recall..... Balanced scoring from 3 different lines, I bet the ice time was distributed well, and the PP 2 for 5, 40%....... I'm stoked! ;-)

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:39 pm EST

That's the way to get it started great win. now get ready for the Flyers to goon it up the rest of the series.Keep scoring on the pp and they can goon it up all they want.

tlats


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:38 pm EST

What a nice win! Great third period. The best way to answer the Philthy crap is score on the PP. THEN break a stick over a Philthy players head after you are up by 5.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:36 pm EST

Final Score Rangers 4 Flyers 1 W- Lundqvist L- Emery GWG: NYR Richards (1) SOG: NYR-36 PHI-15 Blueshirts Mobile Alert

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:34 pm EST

This was a very satisfying win.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:33 pm EST

F u Cryers

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:33 pm EST

Typical Flyers and the stupid penalties.

DOUBLEN


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:31 pm EST

I'm greedy..want that 5th goal.

DOUBLEN


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:30 pm EST

Cryin in philthy... Hi nick ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:26 pm EST

Suck on that one Flyers....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:26 pm EST

Thank you Hags..needed that 4th goal.

DOUBLEN


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:26 pm EST

4 ---- 1 .....Phuckers ........ HA !

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:26 pm EST

SCORRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.....CARL HAGELIN!!!!!!!!

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:26 pm EST

Hag man

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:22 pm EST

Giroux you little prick.....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:21 pm EST

Nash great move and so close.....Rangers need to keep it going....We will get a penalty if we look crooked....No odd man rushes....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:17 pm EST

mf.... Always :)

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:17 pm EST

McDonagh looks like he shook off the rust here in the third period.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:17 pm EST

Rhet, you still typing with two fingers? :-)

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:16 pm EST

Now we are rolling.....It's a power play goal!!!!!!

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:16 pm EST

Stepan step on

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:16 pm EST

YAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:16 pm EST

yeahhhhhhhhhhhh BABYYYYYYYYYYY DEREK STEPAN!!!!!!

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:14 pm EST

Big Money Goal, Yeah Baby!

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:13 pm EST

RICHARDS!!!!!!

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:13 pm EST

Richie rich

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:13 pm EST

ITS A PP GOAL

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:12 pm EST

4 minute PP for us... We need to score.....

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:09 pm EST

I applaud the Rangers for putting the rubber to the net every chance they can but at the same time I think it is limiting their high quality scoring chances because creativity has been limited......

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:02 pm EST

Good PK Rangers

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:48 pm EST

PJ.... Nash is still playing like a guy who doesn't know what his role is with this team. Would it kill him to hit somebody?

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:44 pm EST

Actually Nash has been flat out bad....What does it take to get this guy going....Is it only Columbus that gets him playing hard?....Nice to see Klein playing a physical game.....McD keeping it simple so far....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:44 pm EST

Attention Rick Nash: In ice hockey, power forward (PF) is a loosely applied characterization of a forward who is big and strong, equally capable of playing physically or scoring goals and would most likely have high totals in both points and penalties.[1]

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:43 pm EST

End of 2nd - NYR 1, PHI 1 SOG: NYR 23; PHI 12 after 2nd Blueshirts Mobile Alert

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:38 pm EST

What a 'Power Forward' is too.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:37 pm EST

Someone needs to read to Nash the definition of a 'Power Forward' is.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:33 pm EST

Hospo, you're juggernaut line is starting to gel.... Excellent puck possession on that last shift..... Yur boy FAST has like 6 hits already..... Nothing to sneeze at. god bless you! :>)

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:32 pm EST

MSL has some jump.....Nash not engaged at all....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:32 pm EST

Nash's blunder in our Offensive zone lead to Filthy's last good offensive rush... We can't afford that........

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:30 pm EST

Hartnall was slashed by that big bad Carl Hagelin. Those dirty Ranger players, how do the Flyers cope?

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:27 pm EST

Nash is playing like a wuss

nyfans


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:26 pm EST

We'd be crushing it in horseshoes.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:25 pm EST

Nash and Marty.... do something, will ya?

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:23 pm EST

They still get away with way too much after the whistle....Pissing me off....Get this next goal....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:17 pm EST

I have lived in Tampa for 14 years and I have NEVER heard Richards, Lecavalier and MSL referred to as the Tampa Triplets.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:16 pm EST

Cryers afraid to play their bs game... Hartnell needs to become one with the boards...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:14 pm EST

Really, have to bury these chances.....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:14 pm EST

Too bad we're not playing horseshoes.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:58 pm EST

Listening to these NBC guys you would think we were dominated in the first period....JR obviously likes the Flyers....Hopefully we get better as the game goes along....We usually do vs Flyers....Stepan line needs to pick it up....Emery looks shaky to me....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:52 pm EST

As good as Brian Boyle was 2 years ago, he sucked last season. He really needs to step it up this year.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:50 pm EST

End of 1st - NYR 1, PHI 1 SOG: NYR 13; PHI 5 after 1st Goals by (NYR) M Zuccarello (1), (PHI) A MacDonald (1) Blueshirts Mobile Alert

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:43 pm EST

Geez... Lundqvist should take some shots on Emery.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:33 pm EST

Great work by ZUCC but great work by Brassard keeping his position near Emery too

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:33 pm EST

ZUCHIIIIINNNNNIIIIIII !!!!! YEAH BABY

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:32 pm EST

BAZOOKERELLA

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:32 pm EST

ZUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:30 pm EST

Mcd is not 100% mentally....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:26 pm EST

One shot one goal...don't panic

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:25 pm EST

Rhet - been saying that about AV..huis last two collapses are red flags to me..Did a good job this year, but POs ar different..........One huge hit on MCD..a turnover...Score...after domination....Christ

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:24 pm EST

Son of a b.....

rngrsans


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:15 pm EST

Thanks hall ....take some more

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:11 pm EST

Not only does the team have a lot to prove in this years playoffs, but AV does as well. He is the mastermind of one of the NHL's greatest collapses of all time. Hopefully he turns out more like Joe Torre (who was called "Clueless Joe" when he got to NY) than Stump Merrill. This playoffs, we have more guys (Nash, MSL, Zucc, etc, etc) than ever before that can carry the team through a series. We don't need them all to play at a high level through every series, just one guy to step up in each one. With a little bit of luck and the King dominating, maybe it's enough. I expect the Rangers to beat the Flyers in six.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:08 pm EST

LETS GO RANGERS !

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 5:46 pm EST

Ranger47.... Reportedly, McDonagh was ready to go for the last game of the season and would've played if we needed it. He says he's 100% and I tend to believe him. Brassard on the other hand also says he's 100%, but I'm a bit more skeptical of him. I hope I'm wrong because we will definitely need our top scorer from last season's playoffs.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 17 2014 5:34 pm EST

Fast is on the ice for warmups

rangerlou


Thu Apr 17 2014 4:16 pm EST

The two biggest unknowns will probably be McD's shoulder and Brassard's back. If either is sufficiently compromised the Flyer series will be problemmatic and if we win future series will be gravely oin doubt. Hope they are both ready to go and Nash, MSL and Brich rise to the occasion.

Ranger47


Thu Apr 17 2014 3:56 pm EST

WILD - it may, or it may work even better for the Flyers, giving the Rangers D, especially McD, no rest....Just once I want to see you take the otherside of the argument! :)..Anyway,.Clearly a matchup of styles with talent on both sides...I honestly think the Flyers forwards will dictate the game more than the Ranger forwards but am hoping/ thinking the Rangers D/The King are enough to win the series...But, they play the game on the ice not the Wall..

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 3:50 pm EST

And I concur with the general sentiments that players like BR, Nash, Stepan and MSL have to be effective if the Rangers are going to have any chance of an extended PO run. I am not suggesting they have to lead the team game in and game out, but a lack of production from those 4 will kill them. Another key piece will be the PP, especially given what I think is their vulnerability to a physical and intimidating style of game from the opposition. I gripe and bitch about the Rangers lack of physicality but do agree that the best weapon against goonery is a strong PP.

RF4L


Thu Apr 17 2014 3:48 pm EST

RF4L: that top line may give itself fits...they (and the coaching staff) openly stated that they are changing their game to try and get McD worn down and neutralized offensively. They normally carry the puck, but now will dump and chase...may do more harm then good for them.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 17 2014 3:46 pm EST

E: I don't care what it looks like...or if it's more dynamic...if the Flyers score less goals and have them come from less players like was the case all season the Rangers win. That is the point. The Pens are much more Dynamic than the Jackets...but they nearly lost...and the Jackets are not that deep. The Flyers are less than the Pens offensively and the Rangers are deeper than the Jackets, with that it seems the Rangers have a very good chance to win. But you do have to play the games...so

Wildcard


Thu Apr 17 2014 3:46 pm EST

Breaking News: California man known only as "E" has shattered the Guiness book of world records by protecting a bowl of Cheerios from "internet urinators." (Story after the Game)

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 3:45 pm EST

The Flyers can score from their top 3 lines and are led by arguably the best forward on both teams, Claude Giroux. Hopefully, McD and Girardi will shut him and his line down. I really have no idea who is going to win, but will predict the Rangers in 6, although it's gonna be nasty and I worry about injuries for the Rangers. McD's shoulder had better be 100%. Clearly, the Rangers are superior in goal and on the backline - not many teams can boost of the top 3-some the Rangers have.

RF4L


Thu Apr 17 2014 3:15 pm EST

rangerfan2000 - I have Meniere's Disease, which is an inner ear disease that gives you hearing loss, vertigo spells, tinnitus and other nice symptoms. You need to go see a doctor and let him know exactly what is going on.....As for the Rangers, they could be peaking at just the right time. They floundered during the first half of the schedule, but are playing pretty good hockey. If MSL can show me that he's not a worn out 38-year old then maybe this series is a relatively short one.

RJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 3:13 pm EST

E- I look at the FLyers and I really don't see a "dynamic" offense but what I do see in Simmonds, Hartnell, Couture,Lecav and Schen and even Downie and Mcgin are forwards that can play the tough, dirty, forechecking game and score...while the Rangers Top 9 forwards rather skate, speed, and avoid the physicality....Which group of forwards that can impose their strength over the other can be a deciding factor

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 3:10 pm EST

Hospo I do tend to overrate the Flyers; must be from exposure to their propaganda down here. I think Hartnell and Simmonds are pretty good too; and style-wise more apt to not disappear like Stepan and Nash might. Also I can't properly evaluate d-men even after watching hockey since 1965. I know who's good but for the vast group in the middle, they all seem the same to me. Past McD that pretty much describes the other 11 guys in this series, as far as I can see. But again -- I'm bad at d-men.

Nick


Thu Apr 17 2014 3:05 pm EST

That stats argument is sku'd in my opinion. It's one thing to look at the sheets but it's another to look at the talent. I see a more dynamic offensive team. I wouldn't be alone in this thinking. This has been mused quite a bit throughout the media. That's okay, we'll call it agree to disagree. But I think the NYR defense defense and goaltending is definitely superior. These teams are pretty close but I think more things have to go right for Philly to take this away from the NYR. Discipline is the key. Philly has a decisive edge on the PP. That does show up on the stats sheets. I am weary of that unit. I think they need it to win. Deny them and they will shrivel up. For the NYR my biggest issue is strangely not the bottom-6. I think that they'll be plenty productive. It's the guns that I worry about. MSL, Nash, Richards, CK when/if he returns. I haven't seen that much to give me confidence that they're gonna carry consistently.

E


Thu Apr 17 2014 2:44 pm EST

LIMBO - Shit, my bad...I knew there were 5 (Grocho, Chico, Harpo, Zeppo and Gummo) but the memory ain't there always! Means you gotta stick around,,,,

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 2:35 pm EST

Hey Hospo - what am I chopped liver?

limbo


Thu Apr 17 2014 2:23 pm EST

WILD/E - I'm with WILD...with Nash, St. Louis, Zucc, Step, Brassard, Pouliot and Kreider if he returns, I do not see the FLyers having more pure weapons....Now, how these weapons function in a constant hard-hitting or tight-checking PO seris is the question..Perhaps that is where guys like Harntell, Simmonds, Couture, etc.can lead to a Flyer advantage...We will see....

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 2:20 pm EST

Looking forward to this old Patrick Division rivalry matchup, wish the Rangers had some more thugs to make it fun but I think NY is the better team. I suppose I could be biased, hard to say. Assuming Lundqvist keeps his head on straight and Emery doesn't, I'm going bold with a Rangers in 5 prediction. Also, this would be a great time for St Louis to start finding the net.

Gibbo


Thu Apr 17 2014 2:19 pm EST

On Bongo, On Hospo, On Gibbo..Where the hell is DESPO? Just a sign, Mr. Sunshine..

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 2:18 pm EST

E: They have more weapons? Really, because the Rangers lead the ENTIRE NHL with players having 14 or more goals.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 17 2014 2:18 pm EST

E - Good stuff...Stick around....Like you, I don't see the Flyers "gooning it up" until/unless they are down big in a game...Otherwise I just expect them to be fast, tough and aggressive non stop....From G/D to the forwards, the Rangers have the talent to beat them as long as their effort/battle never wanes.

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 2:13 pm EST

LET'S GET READY TO RUMMMMMMBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLE!

Gibbo


Thu Apr 17 2014 2:10 pm EST

HOSPO: The NYR just have to play their game. For better or for worse this is the team that they are. If Philly wants to go to the gutter, then they'll try to go there. Stay between the whistles, keep discipline, build a wall around the net at the stop, and don't try to beat them with their game. This won't be as bad as the '70s I don't think Philly is near the "physical" threat that some would make them out to be. In fact, look at BOS, CBJ, and PIT. Thats the physicality I worry about. Philly has some big boys who finish their checks but they play a lot more of a skill game than they'd wanna admit. They're gonna do a lot of chipping with the puck and try to establish a good consistent forecheck. I haven't see a team be all that successful against the NYR defense in over a month playing that way. The NYR defense just recovers the puck and stretches the ice. They take away your aggression by punishing you for overcommitting. I look at Philly's defense and I see some guys who are long in the tooth. I see a lack of great depth on the blue line. I see question marks. I am not underestimating Philly. I have great respect for their skill set. They are a dangerous foe. They have more weapons than the NYR do on offense. I just don't wanna oversell their "broad-street" persona. I haven't seen it as much as the fans of Philly wanna believe its there. I am far more respectful of their PP that can and has hurt the NYR then their physical nature. I hope Philly tries to goon it up and become unhinged. Best thing that could happen to the NYR. I like the NYR in a deep series.

E


Thu Apr 17 2014 1:50 pm EST

Hospo: I'm with you on Carcillo over Fast. I'd rather have him in the lineup tonight in case Philly decides to make a statement by going after our skilled guys. You don't lose any offense and he can retaliate if needed. I've never liked Carcillo, but respect the fact that he can play and fight. He's an insurance policy that we need tonight.

VtRanger


Thu Apr 17 2014 1:47 pm EST

Nick - Really? You don't think the Goaltending and Defense of the Rangers are a level above the Flyers? and that with Nash, Step, Zucc,,St. Louis, Brassard and Richards they don't have more skill than the Flyers with Giroux, Voracek and ????? IMO, if the Rangers lose it won't be from having the lesser talent and skill..

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 1:38 pm EST

A couple of slap shots at Emery's head will fuck him up but good.. cheers! LGRangers

mf


Thu Apr 17 2014 1:34 pm EST

I'll disagree on better talent and team. We finished a point or two up. Giroux is miles better than anyone on the NYR also. Too bad Slats pased him over for ... Bobby Sanguinetti. But I digress. I think the key is how good we make Emery look, and I fear: very.

Nick


Thu Apr 17 2014 1:06 pm EST

WILD - Let's not get ticky tacky....first through 4th lines are just ways of giving them a label that fits them most of the times....Your Step and Brass llines are your top two lines..1 and 2 on different nights,..Moore-Boyle whoever is more often used as a 4th..especiaaly when Kreider was in the lineup and the 3rd line was better constituted,,,Now, with Richards, hags, Fast it is more of a "do no harm" line and it indeed makes a lot of sense to give it less time ES then the original "4th" line...IMO....,As for all the numbers, I don't need them to know that the Rangers have the better talent and team for the regfular season...I just need to see if they can carry that out in the POs against a physical opponent for 6-7 games...

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 12:53 pm EST

Ranger 2000.....don't know if you're kidding....but if not......google "Miniere's disease".....see if your symptoms match....if yes.....look up closest Otolaryngologist (Eye,Ear Nose and Throat Specialist)...and make an appointment.....it's quite annoying but not life threatening.....in any case.....inner ear is not to be ignored....get it checked out by said specialist....

archie5


Thu Apr 17 2014 12:47 pm EST

Well Boys these are the days we live for---the playoffs,,,,,no Mason is a good thing for us,,,,our team has played well but now its time to find the other GEAR...all slates are clear and its a new dawn,,,if Brad came score and if Marty can get it going we will be ok,,,,if Nash turns it on we can win,,Hank must be great as we know he can be and we must score on the penalty as we all know the animals in orange area very undisciplined group.. THESE ARE THE DAYS I LIVE FOR,,,,,,lEtS Go rAnGeRs!!!!!!

thedugster


Thu Apr 17 2014 12:45 pm EST

Well Boys these are the days we live for---the playoffs,,,,,no Mason is a good thing for us,,,,our team has played well but now its time to find the other deal...all slates are clear and its a new dawn,,,if Brad came score and if Marty can get it going we will be ok,,,,if Nash turns it on we can win,,Hank must be great as we know he can be and we must score on the penalty as we all know the animals in orange area very undisciplined group.. THERE ARE THE DAYS I LIVE FOR,,,,,,lEtS Go rAnGeRs!!!!!!

thedugster


Thu Apr 17 2014 12:44 pm EST

I dont think there will be a "real" 1st or 2nd line or a "real 3rd or 4th line. I think there will be two lines of offense, and 2 that play solid and chip in when they can. i think the top 2 lines will get the most 5v5 time but it will be close to the same or the line that is going better on each night will get more. Same can be said for the bottom 2 lines. Both lines will get time, but whoever is doing better that night will get more ice time...and of course PP and PK time will skew the amount of time lines can play. If they spend a bunch of time on the PK the "4th" line will get less 5v5 time due to being on the ice for the PK, if they take only 1 or 2 penalties, they will be able to get more 5v5 time. If they do the later the Rangers win games, I don't think the Flyers can match 4 lines effectively. Take the center position for instance. The Flyers top 3 centers points wise have 86, 41, and 39 points for a total of 166. Sounds good. On the Rangers side of things, the top 3 have 57, 51, and 45 for a total of 153. Its not THAT far off, and more balanced. You shut down or at least slow down the Flyers top C and the points drop off, you shut down the Rangers top C and you have 2 more at nearly the same level. And I think the Rangers 4th line is better in all 3 zones, and the Flyers is more physical and not as good in the D zone from what I remember seeing.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 17 2014 12:23 pm EST

This is an odd question, but does anyone post on here that has inner ear issues? I am currently having one which is preventing me from going to MSG and seeing the Rangers (or any other event for that matter) and it's driving me NUTS! Just want to know how you cope or get back to things like these events...

rangerfan2000


Thu Apr 17 2014 12:23 pm EST

PJ - That was me on KLEIN and I'm with ya on him and NASH...I also expect the Rangers 4th line to be a key..they can play..and I wouldn't really mind seeing them being the 3rd line in the series--I don't expect much for Richards-hag-Fast/whoever at ES (PP/PK is different) and like to see their ES time minimized..

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 12:16 pm EST

Hopefully the Nash we see in the playoffs is alot closer to the one we saw in the last game against the Jackets....If Nash is engaged the team will feed off of it....Rangers won't beat you up but can come at you pretty hard if riled....Someone mentioned Klein as a possible answer physically....Living in Nashville I certainly know he can be but hasn't since coming to New York....Klein has a long fuse but he can go pretty good when he has to....Would like to see him more physical in this series for sure....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 12:01 pm EST

I believe Carcillo will play at some point in the series....Have to say Fast has impressed me so far....Sound positionally and finishes his checks with authority....

PJ


Thu Apr 17 2014 11:03 am EST

WILD - To each their own,,I've given my reasons for wanting Carcillo over the meh Fast, including "dirty" offense...and don't buy into this "playing into their hands"..Hey, nothing wrong with differing opinions....We'll see during the game,

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:57 am EST

Miller is a liability and Carcillo would be playing into the Flyers hands....they WANT Carcillo and Dorsett both in....why give them that.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:44 am EST

Oh well, too bad, wrong choice in my eyes...Fast is a non-entity..

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:40 am EST

Per Twitter, AV says Carcillo is NOT in...and that Fast was out for "Maintenance" and it doesn't mean he is out of the lineup. Also, Carcillo, Miller, Falk and Diez stay on the ice late, so they are most likely scratches.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 17 2014 10:01 am EST

According to ZIP at morning skate 20 mins ago---No Fast on ice...Miller or Carcillo?

Hospo


Thu Apr 17 2014 8:00 am EST

first American team to win it after only 2nd year in the league.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Rangers

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:46 am EST

http://www.oyosportstoys.com/Hockey/New-York-Rangers

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:32 am EST

by the way 11 have NEVER won it.......

stevielegs


Thu Apr 17 2014 7:04 am EST

Good for Dale Weise on the OT goal last night. Always liked the guy.

RF4L


Thu Apr 17 2014 6:48 am EST

Sure hope AV has been overseeing some practice work on the PP: 'The Rangers went 7-for-62 on the power play in the 20 games following the trade deadline, oftentimes dysfunctional. Indeed, the Blueshirts scored exactly as many goals shorthanded as they did with the man advantage following the March 7 witching hour. The Blueshirts, who utilize all three first-line forwards on the kill, finished third in the league at PK efficiency at 85.3 percent.' YIKES!

RF4L


Thu Apr 17 2014 5:04 am EST

16 teams have won the last 37 cups.....http://nypost.com/2014/04/16/blueshirts-cant-roll-over-for-flyers-in-brand-new-season/

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 10:18 pm EST

Can't score on the pp if the refs don't call penalties

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 10:13 pm EST

STEVIE - OK?...SCNIEDW - The game is on CNBC tomorrow night

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 10:13 pm EST

Check cnbc

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 10:09 pm EST

HOSPO- great to see your back on the WALL! you have been missed.. and I am going to need some of those meds you mentioned in earlier post if the NYR game is NOT on TV here in NM tomorrow... I just checked NBCS and it showed the Blues game...

schneidw


Wed Apr 16 2014 10:01 pm EST

Hospo pp becomes meaningless if the lighthouse is supplying the refs....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 9:52 pm EST

STEVIE - It usually is....I'd be surprised with any Mouse calls tomorrow...No blood No foul..:)....4th liners like Weise..so important..Hope Our "4th" gets more ice than the Hagelin-Fast juggernaut.

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 9:51 pm EST

Watched 2nd half of the Bolt/Canadien game - yikes, Montreal in 5 if the Bolts don't tighten up. Defensively, they were horrible.

RF4L


Wed Apr 16 2014 9:50 pm EST

2 refs from bj game charles and feliciano , ray and jose....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 9:33 pm EST

Dale fuggin Weise

TradeStar28


Wed Apr 16 2014 9:07 pm EST

Dubinsky is plying like a beast. He is treating crosbaby like his bitch. I miss him and the other home grown American...Cally

nyfans


Wed Apr 16 2014 9:04 pm EST

Bongo-Man, Can send you some Clonapans.... They go great with cold beer... ;-)

mf


Wed Apr 16 2014 8:51 pm EST

If the nyr get the 2 refs from the playpens tonight , they will lose.... Cross checking is now legal....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 8:47 pm EST

Lets go BJ's and TB

TradeStar28


Wed Apr 16 2014 7:46 pm EST

Time to bring the liberty bell to NYC and get a chain and hang it around Lady Liberty's neck!!!! Yes HOSPO I need some fucking meds but always TRUE BLUE!

BONGO


Wed Apr 16 2014 7:29 pm EST

Excellent 1st period for Dubi....2-1BJs.

jratelle19


Wed Apr 16 2014 6:43 pm EST

STEVIE - 20 per night..but at least 23 for the POs because the injuries will happen...,,especially on the team taking the punishment......Sucks not having Krieder, but all teams have missing players...War of attrition....

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 6:05 pm EST

Mason has a concussion!! 11:19 That's the popular theory. .... as per carp....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 5:47 pm EST

Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord Ranger Rants: Nash 'hungry' for Stanley Cup; Vigneault on need for 20 players to "drive the bus"

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 4:31 pm EST

sorry the question was.."Should the Rangers be werried about the Flyers' physicality?

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 4:30 pm EST

carp..... " I don't know if worried or werried is the right word, but they are and should be aware that it will be a factor. How they deal with it is obviously a key to the series. They've done well with the Flyers by using their speed. .....A good power play would help, too"

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 4:29 pm EST

head jerk....excuse me....not cool jerk mf.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 4:28 pm EST

mf maybe it was yoo hoo.....berube the jerk of loose cannons......

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 4:25 pm EST

Slegs: I'm pretty familiar with the music of The Guess Who, and they never said that. I call BS !

mf


Wed Apr 16 2014 3:50 pm EST

Emery starts game 1. Goal fest coming up!

RJ


Wed Apr 16 2014 3:43 pm EST

http://articles.philly.com/2014-04-15/sports/49129674_1_sean-couturier-the-flyers-new-york-rangers

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 3:43 pm EST

guess who said that....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 3:42 pm EST

"In my opinion, you have to keep your emotions in check," he said. "You can't become a loose cannon out there. You've got to play the right way. You've got to be intense. But you've got to be smart."

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 3:37 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2014/04/16/why-rangers-will-take-down-flyers-in-five-games/

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 3:36 pm EST

Hospo I'd put Falk in over Klien for those philthy bastards.....this is war...battle 1 in 24+ hours......have to win 4 battles.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 3:23 pm EST

WILD - you are already peddling crutches and excuses..Forget that, there are none,,,,The Rangers should be prepared for the Refs to let a lot of things go that they didn't in the regular season...That is PO hockey..The Rangers should be prepared for anything the FLyers throw at them,...and adapt their roster/actions accordingly...They are the better team with the better talent, goaltending and defense...They lose, they lost it..and/or did not want it bad enough.....Not being physical or strong enough shouldn't come into play till the next series..

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 3:19 pm EST

Nick you and the Liberty Bell have something in common.......////......

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 3:15 pm EST

If the Flyers are so fucking great, so fucking intimidating, so fucking tough, why didn't they sweep the series from the meek, weak, little Rangers? The Rangers had the better record. That's why they have the home ice "advantage." They win this in 5 or 6.

RJ


Wed Apr 16 2014 3:06 pm EST

Yes one of them was me. Hey, it's sports. We all have opinions. I'm a pessimist at heart, here included. I believed in 2012 and all it got me was $2,000 poorer coming up for two playoff games and a bunch of heartache when our $8 million goalie choked against the NJD. But he looks good peddling Advil.

Nick


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:49 pm EST

Hospo: Thought there were two...one said 6 the other said 6 or 7. Anyway, I agree, if they cant win this series I don't know if AV can win any...HOWEVER it does depend on HOW they lose. If the refs let the Flyers play unchecked, there is no team, not even the Bruins than can hold up for long before injuries become an issue...but as long as the series is called properly and as long as there are no catastrophic injuries....

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:42 pm EST

BONGO _ Too many meds..I'm all chilled out...

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:42 pm EST

WILD _ Negative Ninnies? Is that a plural? because I've only seen one person on here predict a Flyer win...The Rangers are the better team, They lose, AV should have his ass canned

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:41 pm EST

Bongo out!

BONGO


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:40 pm EST

Where's the old HOSPO that would have thrown these guys out of here!

BONGO


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:39 pm EST

I need a Molly! No negative vibes please! Let's go Rangers!!!!!

BONGO


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:38 pm EST

This is Philly! This is the Playoffs! Let's go boys!!!!

BONGO


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:37 pm EST

BONGO: Deep breaths, relax...the negative ninnies are out..but its OK, they just cant see the positive side yet....

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:36 pm EST

Come on WILDCARD you have been here forever. Tell him to fuck off!!!

BONGO


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:35 pm EST

Get me back some of the "Old Boys" with some balls!

BONGO


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:33 pm EST

vcp: There is a ZERO percent chance this team gets intimidated. Not one single Rangers during the entire season showed signs of being intimidated out on the ice. They lack aggression, but not toughness or courage on the ice. I also think that the Flyers past rep brings people to think they hit harder or something....other than a few dirty hits they have had this season, they do not hit any harder than any other physical team. Lets also not forget...teh Flyers were trying to win, and trying to intimidate the Rangers just a couple weeks ago, they failed to do either. The Rangers played hard enough in that game, nothing to think they will not during the playoffs....and I would also like out point out, you don't win in the hits or PIMs column, you win in the Goals column...let the Flyers try to win through intimidation...if the Rangers keep disciplined they will win, because 5 on 5 they will be better, and the Flyers will spend more time in the box.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:33 pm EST

There is no way on fucking God's green earth are we to lose to that fucking team from Filthy. I would rather slit my wrists then to see a loss. Talk about going bullshit and for all of you who are picking Philly "FUCK YOU" and get off this board! Yes I'm jacked and can't believe some of the shit I'm reading. OMG I better stop before I have a stroke!!!!!!!!

BONGO


Wed Apr 16 2014 2:17 pm EST

Flyers in 6 or 7 Rangers will get hit, hacked and intimidated. Not built for the long haul agreed. If Kreider comes back this series it helps but he cant fight but he can hit for sure!!

vcp1994


Wed Apr 16 2014 1:09 pm EST

Hospo: yeah they need the aggression to be up...as for chippy and dirty, sure some of that is needed...especially in front of the net after the whistle. But they cant overdo it, if they focus on that it will take them of their game not the Flyers off theirs.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 1:06 pm EST

WILD - We mostly agree..where we diverge is that I think the Rangers will need to be a bit more aggressive/nasty than during the regular season (and even base roster decisiobns on it---i.e.. Carcillo)and even intitate some of that so called "dirty" or "chippy" stuff that is such a part of allowable PO hockey ...We'll see

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:59 pm EST

Hospo: Agreed, but they cant try to be the Flyers, they need to ratchet up the intensity and make sure to finish checks, but to try and bring their game to a Flyers level of cheapness, or trying to target a player to take them out will just blow up on them. The Rangers need to play like the Rangers...of course with more aggression finishing checks and such.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:57 pm EST

On the playoff track records. Stepan is my biggest concern, and BRich my second. I don't know what to expect from MSL this year, but he has always done well in the post season. Boyle two years in a row put up just under a half ppg from the 3rd/4th line and the PK was always good with him out there. Last year he was not bad at all, but the entire team was not up to par for the most part. Nash, how can you get a track record with him? He played 4 games in 08-09 with a not so great CBus team and had 1g and 2 A, 3 points in 4 playoffs games....last year he wasn't nearly as good...but it was only his second time in the playoffs, and years after the first, hard to tell what that means going into this year. Not that I am saying they WILL do better in the playoffs than the regular season or compared to last year, but there is hardly enough history to say they will not be good.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:53 pm EST

WILD - yes, the Rangers can't turn into the Flyers to try and match them and they need to stay true to what they do best...BUT..the POs are a different game with a lot more allowed and the Rangers need to adapt to it with some minor tweeks and take some role in it, not like last year's Bruins series..

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:49 pm EST

VIC - If you are talking track record,, still think you are exaggerating a bit with,. "If MSL, NASH, STEPAN, BOYLE and RICHARDS are non-factors " Have we seen STL in the POs as a Ranger? Richards has had one good PO year and one bad one for the Rangers---zero track record.....And I think Boyle has consistently been one of the Rangers better PO performers, even post Neil (except for about 5 games when he should have been sat with injury)....But, I do agree with you on NASH and STEPAN --two huge keys to Ranger PO success..

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:44 pm EST

VIC: I call BS on hank..."all season" is totally incorrect. As I stated earlier, he save% was .906 in January, by the end of the season he brought it up to .920. .14 over a full season is a big difference, but to increase a season save % by .14 in 4 months and in less than half the season game wise is incredible. His career average is about .920, so he started really bad but brought that up to his average, and I never thought he would do that. You cant do that playing poorly. Hank was one of the best (in fact he an Talbot had the best combined save% in the entire NHL after 01/20/14 at least up to the last game) in the entire NHL down the stretch, so he is the LEAST of my worries.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:38 pm EST

Stevie I tend to overrate the Flyers so there's that. Plus the NYR aren't 'built for the playoffs,' as the popular term goes. We'll see soon enough ...

Nick


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:32 pm EST

From the Filthy media........."NHL botches Flyers-Rangers playoff schedule" (http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/flyers/NHL-botches-Flyers-Rangers-playoff-schedule.html)

Vic


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:24 pm EST

HOSPO: Regarding the "ifs"......a lot of the negative "ifs" that I mentioned really aren't "ifs" as much as they are the Rangers track record with respect to those players. Basically, they are what I expect because they are what each of those players has shown in the past. NASH and STEPAN have been invisible and ineffective in the playoffs in the past. BOYLE hasn't looked the same since NEIL hit him. MSL hasn't performed like he did previously since he joined the Rangers. HANK, while strong in previous years, has been off his game all season. You could do negative "ifs" on the Bruins but that would be out of character from how they have played.

Vic


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:10 pm EST

Rangers in 6. I think we win this first round, but how beat up we are entering Round 2 may become an issue...

Ranger47


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:02 pm EST

nick even mfred might bet against that.......maybe.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:00 pm EST

Flyers in six. Flame away. The NYR will get shoved around and unless the PP works, forget it. If it does, maybe we get to game Seven and take our chances. As for Hank, I don't care about his PO save percentages; he could have a .990 but the .10 would be a crap goal at a key time. Game Five, Devils, 2012. I'll never forget it. He sucked ice shavings in the biggest game of the past 20 years.

Nick


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:55 am EST

KIS: If they do that, they will be trying to beat the Flyers at their own game...and they will lose. The Rangers did better than the Flyers in the regular season because they played their own game. Its best to stick to that. Its what they know, and its what has worked....heck its what had them get a similar record after the first 15 games as the PENs who everyone loves to pick as a cup favorite partly due to the regular season.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:51 am EST

If flyers start doing shit to the Rangers the Rangers should go after Giroux and beat on Timmonen. timmonen runs that PP

KIS


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:51 am EST

Hospo: Agree on Klein. And while he isn't really all that physical, other teams can take him out of the game or off his game by being physical with him. It seems to me (from my amaturish view of things) that he chooses to make sure he is in good position rather than makeing a hit at times, and he will disengage along the boards to make sure the puck stays away from the front. There is something to be said for that, its rare he is the reason a guy gets a good chance, or a great pass is made from his side. he is kind of like Staal in that way (and Stralman as well) you don't really notice them, but than again, you don't notice the offensive players who play on that side either....good trade off most nights.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:48 am EST

RF, I think it will go series by series for NAsh. I don't see him being big in the playoffs. I think in this first series he wont do shite. If they play Columbus in the second series he might have a good series. Other than that I don't see him doing much.. I think MZA is the guy to be huge for the team

KIS


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:46 am EST

Have always been a Kevin Klein fan and think he's been fine for the Rangers, albeit not overly physical...But.....Keeping in mind his play in the western POs the past few years, I think he can be a crucial player around the Rangers net and in the physical department against the Flyers

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:43 am EST

STEVIE - And they will aim for McD's shoulder......try to ring Staal's bell...hit the King every chance they can..slash guys like Zucc....and so on....All things they should do to wear down and possibly lessen the Rangers advantage in skill

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:40 am EST

Flyers say Mason not making trip to NYC, but could play in game two if they think he is able...how the heck will they know if his is at home skating on his own and not with the team in practice? Sounds like he is out for a little bit.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:39 am EST

RF4L - I thought I answered that......I said I wanted more than I saw last year in the POs and most nights this year..Don't know what else I can say..

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:36 am EST

the cryers will aim for the brass back like the brass ring.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:36 am EST

RF4L: I think what I "expect" and would be unhappy if I didn't get, was an improvement over last years playoffs. This year was hard to judge really...he had a bad start, then the injury, and he adjusted his play some and it took him a while before he looks comfortable on the ice, at the same time he has played the last maybe 25-30 games much better even if it didn't show up on the score sheet, so I like that and hope the improvement continues...and not to mention, he had nearly 30 goals in a "bad" year....so its hard to complain TOO much. To me this year I want him to be a threat on the ice, to draw the top D, and make things happen. It doesn't matter how many points he gets individually, and that stands true for every player, as long as the team is scoring enough to win that is what matters. If Nash and his line get zero points in the first 3 games, but they have the top D and top defensive line on them the entire time because the press and get some chances, and that leads to the other 3 lines getting an "easier" time scoring and the Rangers are up 3-0 in the series...than I say the line was successful. If they do so little that the top D goes against other players and they don't score, than its a failure. Basically, i could care less about individual stats in the playoffs. Does that make sense?

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:26 am EST

Hospo: Of course - you want that out of every Ranger. What do you expect and if it's what you saw during the regular season will that be enough for you?

RF4L


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:16 am EST

RF4L - What I want and expect are two different things...I want much more tenacity and activity than last year's POs and more than many nights this year...I want his best effort, night in and night out (and hopefully he beats the Goalie)....It's what he's paid for

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:09 am EST

I'm curious how folks believe Nash played this year. More specifically, will you be satisfied if he plays in the POs like he did during the regular season or are you expecting something better?

RF4L


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:05 am EST

VIC - Wow with those "If's"...Not that they are untrue, but those same statements can be said about any of the 16 teams in the PO, just changing the names....Bottom line is you have to play well as a team, and the top players have to play well, to make the next round.....Simple as that...But, I do agree that guys like Nash and the Mr. Invisible of POs Derek Stepan are huge keys for the Rangers.......The Rangers have the better goalie, the rangers have the better D, and they have more skill up front....They SHOULD win the series but if the Flyers play a tough physica lteam game with a lot of after the whistle shenanagins (that will be allowed) it will put the onus on the Rangers forwards to have the guts and fight through every night and a Coach to make the proper adjustments (though not gigantic) or provide the proper motivations..AV's track record the last two POs worry me...

Hospo


Wed Apr 16 2014 11:03 am EST

Via Twitter: About halfway through practice Miller took over for Brass for line rushes. Also out of Philthy, official from Berube Mason OUT Emery to start with Heeter as backup. Rangers need to bump into Emery (not penalty bumps but annoying ones) and get Emery angry, he might like to fight when angry, but he forgets how to stop the puck when he is more worried about preemptively hitting a forward near the crease.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 10:53 am EST

And if the Bruins PP and PK break down, and someone hits Lucic and beaks his arm the Bruins could go out in 4 or 5 as well. You can say that about any team. You can also say that if the Rangers PP gets hot, and they don't suffer any injuries that they could go to and win the SCF on the backs on the PP and PK along with Hank and his record setting Playoff numbers. Pointing out everything that could go wrong and saying that all of that together would lead to a loss is just as crazy as pointing to everything that could go right to show how the Rangers will win the cup.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 10:46 am EST

Vic: I HIGHLY doubt Fleury will outplay any goalie in the playoffs ever again. Have you seen his recent PO numbers? Lets compare, Hank career has a 2.28 gaa and a .920 save% in the playoffs, last year he was 2.14 gaa & .934 %, the year before he was a 1.82 gaa, and a .917%. And if you are worried that he wasn't as good this year as most years regular season, he had a .906 save% up into January, and brought the season save% up too .920 in just 4 months. That is MONSTER improvement. Fleury has a career 2.72 gaa and a .902 save%, last year he was at 3.52 gaa and .883%, the year before he had a 4.63 gaa and a .834%, in fact he only has 2 playoffs with a .900 or better save %, he is NOT a playoff performer. There is no reason to believe that he will suddenly be better than Hank in the post season. And it is hard to say Bob will out perform Hank, I mean, they are both top end, but I don't think one will be all that much better, and Hank wouldn't have to be as good to get a win, just nearly as good, doesn't have to outplay him and wouldn't have to (or shouldn't have to) steal any games against CBus, the Rangers are better overall and better in almost every position head to head.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 10:33 am EST

WILDCARD: Yep, it doesn't matter which team the Rangers play in the 2nd round (if they get there). Like I said in my longer post, I believe that HANK will be the biggest reason among many. He will be outplayed by FLUERY or BOBO. Also, I have to be honest with myself. As much as I hate the Flyers and as little as I think of that team it would not surprise me at all if the Rangers were quickly dispatched in 4 or 5 games. If MSL, NASH, STEPAN, BOYLE and RICHARDS are non-factors the Rangers are in trouble. If the Rangers PP is pathetic they are in trouble. If McSSIAH isn't able to play at the level we have come to expect they are in trouble. If MZA is targeted in injured the Rangers are in trouble. Really, when you think about both sides of the coin it is far more likely that these events occur rather then all of the positives that I mentioned in my previous long post. So much has to go VERY right for the Rangers to even be playing in the second round. Many of those things have never happened before so is it reasonable to expect that they will happen now in this year's playoffs? I know many folks are filled with rosy thoughts of playoff possibilities but I have always been a realist. It was never my opinion that this team was built to win in the playoffs and I'm not about to jump on that bandwagon now just because the playoffs are starting. As positive as many Ranger fans have been since December we all know that all of those good feelings could be gone less then 5 minutes into game 1. We've been there before.

Vic


Wed Apr 16 2014 10:06 am EST

Via Twitter Brass IS on the ice this morning.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 9:35 am EST

If rangers players are hurt, than the Flyers will have a bunch of guys on suspension...because like it or not, the Rangers save two or three players are no smaller than the Flyers...yeah sure, 5 pounds here, 2 inches there, but nothing significant. And while the Ragners lack aggression they do not lack toughness, they can and have taken very large hits and kept on going, especially a couple of those smaller players like Zucc and MSL, those two have taken monster contact over their NHL days and not slowed down. The only injures either have had really have been with out regard for size, like a broken hand from a shot or a slash, and a broken leg (MSL) doesn't matter how big you are, bones break the same. So the Flyers will not, with clean hits, do all that much damage, if they get dirty the league will eventually hand out punishment, and if the Rangers PP is going good it wont take long before a couple games with a 5 min pp sink the Flyers for the series and it would be over in 4. That is one thing I am not too worried about, the Flyers will not be AS dirty in the post season, it costs too much to get in trouble, they will be hard to play against, but more clean...and the Rangers can handle clean hits all day long.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 9:10 am EST

I heard that Brassard hurt his back. Hoping/expecting Miller to step in/up is, IMO, wishful thinking, especially considering what AV had to say about him on his last demotion (which only occurred like 10 days ago). Then again, the POs is altogether another animal, so who knows? What I think might be more realistic is McI gets dressed before the series is over and ends up with a slew of penalty minutes. Alas, if that's the case, it's likely only because the Rangers are physically pounded and hurt and AV dresses him out of desperation. If that does occur, McI will be a welcomed menace on behalf of the Rangers. Wouldn't that be nice?

RF4L


Wed Apr 16 2014 9:00 am EST

Vic: Even if they play Cbus...they lose in the second round? Really....I for one am fairly certain PIT will win that series, I mean Horton is out AGAIN, and the jackets just don't have the depth against a PIT team that is getting healthy again. Just too much to handle, unless Fluery implodes like he has the last couple playoffs....but even with that, CBus will be under constant pressure, may go 6 or 7 games, but I jsut think they will get worn out tired...HOWEVER i think they will beat up the Pens a little and make them work for it, so the Pens will be less than 100% after that series...of course so will the Rangers....unless they can keep at about 20% on the PP...then it will be 1) a quick ousting of the Flyers or 2) the Flyers will have to tone it down and the Rangers will get beat up less.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 8:54 am EST

KIS: I really could. I mean, the ice "gets smaller" in the post season, and i think that will help cover some issues Miller has away from the puck. What I mean is there is less room in the offensive zone, because all the players do a better job, so if he messes up a bit, yeah it will show, but the focus from the rest of the team will be that much higher to help make up for it. Or at least I hope so!LOL But i could see his style working really well, he doesn't mind getting into the dirty areas, and he is a strong kid, he also plays like he doesn't know he should be a little afraid of being injured in front of the net, or driving into the corner so that would be an asset against a team like the flyers. Of course I am looking forward today's practice to hear if Brass is out there, and of course he might not be, but that may just be precautionary and he may work out off ice or something....who knows. AV will answer any question with " We hope and think he will be OK for game one, he has this mid upper body lower body injury non injury that may cost him some time after it doesnt cause him to miss any time last season"

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 8:50 am EST

WILDCARD: I just checked and you are correct. That was silly of me. Why should I expect the NHL to put forward a playoff bracket that makes sense. Honestly, I can't stand this divisional BS. I would much prefer to do away with the divisions and have two conferences. Play a balanced schedule within the conference and line up the teams 1 through 8. RF4L: Since my scenario is all shot to hell I will just sum up some things. Your assessment was 100% correct. I think that little of the Rangers chances. Statistically speaking they, of course, have a chance. Realistically I think they win round 1 and lose to whoever they face in round 2.

Vic


Wed Apr 16 2014 8:50 am EST

I have a funny feeling that JT miller will have to step in for Brass and will ciome up big. I have a feeling it becomes his breakout. Can anybody else seeing this happen?

KIS


Wed Apr 16 2014 8:46 am EST

Also, if the Rangers PP stays at the season average of about 18-19 % they win the series if the refs call the games fairly and the Rangers limit their reactions to the flyers stupidity. That would mean 1-2 ppg per game, because if the Flyers keep up their rate of taking penalties they will be shorthanded 4-5 times per game, and if the Rangers don't respond too much (like dont go mugging a guy for a late hit but "clean" when the Rangers player is ok, just let them go to the box alone) the rangers will be on the PP 5-6 times per night, and if they are not it will be because the Flyers slow that stuff down and they will if they get torched with 2 ppg on 5 pks and lose by a couple goals that would force them to change THEIR game, and the Rangers would continue playing the way they like to. Whoever changes their game the most loses, that's why I don't want to see the Rangers try to counter the Flyers style with the same style...its not their game.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 8:40 am EST

VIC: One issue...Rangers win round one, they see the winner of the Cbus, Pit series...cant see Mon or TB unless they neat the winner of the Boston Redwings series.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 16 2014 8:32 am EST

Vic: Wow...you're putting a lot on the BJs. Too much, IMO. You are basically hoping they handle on behalf of the Rangers, 2 of the 3 physical teams in the east (Boston and Pittsburgh) and saying that the only way the Rangers handle the Flyers similar style is with a PP operating at a 40% success rate. Yikes!!

RF4L


Wed Apr 16 2014 8:16 am EST

Been swamped and traveling the last few weeks. I've followed the discussions on my cell when I could. As I've thought about the playoffs I've come to believe there is a path for the Ranges to get to the Finals. For that to happen I think this series of events needs to unfold. 1) I expect the Rangers to get their first PP within 2 minutes of Game 1 against the Flyers. Probably within the first 30 seconds. They need to score on that PP and then score on at least 40% of subsequent PPs in that series. If they do that they can neuter Filthadelphia and win that series in 4 or 5 games (which I believe is critical). They must make quick work of the Flyers. 2) CBJ must beat the Pens in a 6 or 7 game series that is extremely physical. I expect Boston to roll over Detroit. If Detroit gets a game I would be surprised. 3) The Rangers must survive their 2nd round opponent (either TB or Montreal). I don't really like the match-up against either team but it is what it is. 4) CBJ must take Boston to 7 games in a brutally physical and nasty series that wears down both teams. Whoever wins that series has to be as worn down as the Rangers were when the lost to the Devils a few years ago after two physical series in the opening two rounds. Either way the Rangers will need to be at the top of their game to beat either CBJ or Boston in the Conference Finals. I say that because if CBJ gets there it is probably because BOBO is having one of those playoff runs. I expect Boston to be there and if the Rangers have any chance against them it will only be because Boston is battered, injured and worn down. From the Rangers perspective several things need to happen. Some of which I can see happening and some of which I don't. 1) MSL has to be the top scoring threat he was before he came here. I can see that happening. 2) NASH needs to play his best hockey. He needs to become the dominant and consistent forward that he has shown a faint glimmer of being in the past. No more teases. This I DO NOT see happening. I expect NASH to be what he was last year.....invisible and ineffective. 3) STEPAN has to step up and play his best hockey in the playoffs. He needs to be the type of player that BERGERON is. I DO NOT see this happening. STEPAN does not possess the physical traits or ability to do so. 4) The BRASSARD-MZA-POULIOT line needs to continue to contribute and score at even strength and on the PP. I can definitely see this happening and expect this line to carry the Ranges as far as they will go. 5) BOYLE needs to be the BOYLE he was a few years ago against the Sens. If he can raise his game to that level the Rangers can be a very dangerous team in the playoffs. He was a force in that series until the concussion delivered by NEIL. I think BOYLE still has this in him and I hope he can bring it out now. 6) McSSIAH needs to return the level he was before he got hurt. He needs to stay healthy, as do the rest of the Rangers core D. I can see this happening. 7) HANK needs to play consistently and not allow soft goals. He has played great in previous playoff years but it has never been enough. If he can play as well as he has in the past the Rangers should be ok. If he can't or he gets hurt AV needs to go to TALBOT without hesitation. The problem is I don't think he will do that. I think he will live or die with HANK. I will go on record right now and say that I believe that this area, above all others, will be the Rangers Achilles Heel. I don't think HANK is the player he used to be and I don't think he will be able to play to that level. He has played a lot better then he was early in the season but he has not returned to the level of play he was at in previous years. For example, he still looks lost on just about every breakaway and odd man rush. I believe the Rangers will be eliminated in round 2 because HANK will be outplayed by his opposite (whoever that ends up being). I believe that the Rangers will be eliminate because HANK lets in too many goals that are beneath the level of play that he is supposed to be at.

Vic


Wed Apr 16 2014 7:55 am EST

mf: The NHL enables the violence; overt intimidation tactics are not going anywhere in the NHL game for the foreseeable future. Buttman and the antiquated short-sighted NHL board of governors should take a gander at the CHL and how David Branch operates. There's a man with vision and courage. Not to mention logic because he and those he works with have realized that their lifeblood (kids in their mid to late teens) will look elsewhere (ie US colleges) if the mindless predatory violence was left to continue. Starting about 5 years ago, the CHL began handing out crippling suspensions to players who carried themselves like Hartnell and Rinaldo and so on. Has it resulted in an elimination of those acts? No, that's likely impossible given the nature of the game of hockey, but it sure reduced their frequency. Drastically. Good for him and the league. Shame on the gutless, near-sightedness of Buttman and his cronies (cronies includes, BTW, the NHLPA).

RF4L


Wed Apr 16 2014 7:45 am EST

Hartnell only gets a suspension if his display was against Pittsburg... Any other team, he gets a "get out of jail free card." ..... Perhaps Scamaham was too busy oggling his new Toronto nomination to give policing the league his full attention.

mf


Wed Apr 16 2014 7:42 am EST

stevie: Concur that the PP may be the Rangers best (and perhaps only) effective response to the goon tactics we are sure to see courtesy of the Flyers. Certain players will be targeted, especially McDonagh, Nash and the King.

RF4L


Wed Apr 16 2014 7:09 am EST

Rf hopefully the Cryers go over the line and play stupid hockey. How hartnell got away with just a fine is not a good indicator of how the nhl will deal with post season playoff intent to injure plays. The only way they know how to beat a team is to get the opponent hurt so they can't play at 100% or 80 or not at all....if the refs don't control the game without deciding the outcome , there will injuries and intimidation .... The pp better be in top form to stop their game plan....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 6:39 am EST

FWIW II: Pundits are also predicting a Flyer series win, mainly because they feel the Flyers forwards will 'impose their will' on the Rangers. Not all are leaning that way: Ray Ferraro really likes the Rangers and believes they can go to the final 4.

RF4L


Wed Apr 16 2014 6:31 am EST

FWIW, lots of pundits up here anticipating the Ranger/Flyer series because they feel it will be very violent. I understand the sentiment, but it's all coming from the way the Flyers play. The Rangers don't initiate. Clearly, these pundits are expecting the Rangers to push back if/when the stupidity starts (and start it will, likely as soon as the opening minutes). I sure hope the Rangers are ready.

RF4L


Wed Apr 16 2014 6:08 am EST

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/sports/hockey/look-up-line-would-warn-dangers-ahead-for-amateur-hockey-players.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0&referrer=

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 6:07 am EST

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/15/sports/hockey/nhl-teams-suffer-olympic-blues.html?from=sports.hockey

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 6:06 am EST

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/sports/hockey/for-hockeys-version-of-pairs-skaters-points-arent-for-style.html?from=sports.hockey

stevielegs


Wed Apr 16 2014 12:16 am EST

Cyrgalis puts Bodie at 175 so I guess he put on that 10 lbs pretty quick after all

Messier11


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:11 pm EST

TD: I share your intrigue in Sather's mode of trying to keep the system stocked given his penchant for trading away picks. Kyle Jean was demoted part way thru the Pack season to the ECHL so he's probably someone who can be written off. I don't know anything about Malcolm, but the rest are interesting.

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:02 pm EST

Yep I remember the Binghamton Rangers and before that the Binghamton Whalers and before that the Binghamton Dusters. From what I understand the 1994 Stanley cup made is way up to Binghamton during the summer of 1994. It was seen @ Funzies bar.

Jerry_Garcia


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:57 pm EST

We will beat those Philthy Bastards: Our 4th line will get approx 9 - 13 minutes, and AV will keep fresh Legs on the ice rolling the other 3.... They won't keep up, they will take penalties, and they will pay the price by way of our POWER PLAY! (this is all fact and no opinion!)

mf


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:34 pm EST

Interesting to hear most of the NHL Network analysts picking the Flyers in this series....Pointing to Mason and an improved Flyer defense...In recent years every time I fear playing the Flyers we beat them...I would play Fast to start the series and see how it goes....We have to pressure the Flyer D and speed will do this....We can always switch to Carcillo if we have to.....Need Hank to be sharp and if he is we win....They will run McD and we need to make them pay if they do....Oh how I hate the Flyers....

PJ


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:56 pm EST

R47 that's why they call it a wake... Awake....tell them to put the bell on your big toe ....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:08 pm EST

TDCHI = Touch Down Chicago? Anyway, glad you're back!

mf


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:04 pm EST

As a NY Rangers fan.......Going into the playoffs this season is quite different from previous years. It has even spilled over onto the Wall here....In the past, we were underdogs and knew deep down inside that most likely it would be a miracle to win the Cup.......This year, we are not going in as world beaters per se......but it is safe to say that we are embarking into the playoffs with a pretty solid team that if the moon and the sun is aligned.....we could have a huge run to the big prize. I think we have most of the parts to make some history......starting obviously with Henrik and the defense. Then you have 4 lines capable of playing game winning hockey......with a good mix of skill, pure goal scoring, size, and speed. Yes, we do lack overall toughness and that could come into play......but right now I think this Cup is wayyyy up in the air and it is for any of the 16 teams taking

TradeStar28


Tue Apr 15 2014 7:24 pm EST

And count me as one who is really interested to see how this tactic of pulling from the NCAA pans out...so far the roster includes Cam TALBOT, Kyle JEAN, Connor ALLEN, Jeff MALCOM, Ryan HAGGERTY, Chris McCARTHY, and now Mat BODIE. Limited shelf-life on all of them(except Cammer, who is already in the show), but interesting prospects in their own rite.

tdchi


Tue Apr 15 2014 7:18 pm EST

Here's a link to a local interview with Bodie...some interesting things he says too...just a recap for those who don't feel like listening(and I swear, I'll stop harping on about this kid after this): Rangers approached him on Sunday. Had him signed by today. On why the Rangers chose him - "They said they don't have a lot of guys who play like me...they don't have a lot of offensive defensemen..." On why he chose the Rangers: "I'm just looking forward to getting a chance...the Rangers' faithful are just incredible...the crowd at MSG is incredible..." He was apparently going to report to Hartford for the last two games, but the team told him to finish his degree and enjoy the limelight of the victory. He'll be on a team with Ryan HAGGERTY...who was on the ice with Bodie for a nasty fracas that broke out between Union and RPI this year: www.dailygazette.com/videos/2014/apr/15/1774/

tdchi


Tue Apr 15 2014 7:07 pm EST

JFC - Thanks man! Laying low. Busy with work. Busy with life. But that Bodie news has my neck of the woods buzzing, especially after Union's game Saturday. So proud of him. So proud of the boys in garnet. Even though they were anything but underdogs, the team is such a feel-good story. School of 2,200 with no athletic scholarships...'just' turned Division I 23 years ago...and has players that have to complete basically an Ivy League-level education with a GPA of 3.0 to stay on the team...those who don't go the way of Tim BOYLE, big Bri's little brother and an Ottawa 4th rounder, who is now toiling in some B-league somewhere...Plenty of talented kids sign commitments to Union, but only a few end up getting their and even fewer end up staying because they expect so much of their students...Another thing about Union...for you guys who remember the Binghamton Rangers and the stars from that squad...they're coached by Rick Bennett, a former power forward who toiled in the system for a while. Incredible coach too and even more of a reason to like Union.

tdchi


Tue Apr 15 2014 7:03 pm EST

The one thing I want to hear at my funeral is "Look - he's moving!".

Ranger47


Tue Apr 15 2014 6:06 pm EST

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this, but Adam Graves is being mentioned as the heir apparent to Brendan Shanahan in the Department of Player Safety ....WILD.... He's not eligible to play in the NHL playoffs this season.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 15 2014 5:55 pm EST

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this, but Adam Graves is being mentioned as the heir apparent to Brendan Shanahan in the Department of Player Safety ....WILD.... He's not eligible to play in the NHL playoffs this season.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 15 2014 5:39 pm EST

It's better than people coming to your funeral....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 5:17 pm EST

Hospo.....deal. We'll probably get to Richmond this summer....I'll let you know. Kinda sad that you only get up here for Funerals......

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 15 2014 3:08 pm EST

My point about MSL is invalid, I concur. For now. We'll see.

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 3:06 pm EST

RF4L: OMG! MSL hasn't even played a playoff game for the Rangers. Horton had done nothing for the Bruins until the playoffs and they won the cup...you are reaching REALLY hard because the facts don't back your argument.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 2:43 pm EST

Wild: Please, explain to me the success Rick Nash has brought the Rangers? And MSL for that matter. It's a better win now philosophy Sather is touting that's for sure. You can defend it all you want - you'll never get me to agree, unless of course, they win the cup this year. Or next. That would be fabulous and I'll gladly admit I'm wrong, but I ain't holding my breath. And something tells me that if they don't, you'll never make a similar confession - you'll continue to defend Sather until the end. So be it. Too bad you cannot manufacture and sell those Ranger coloured glasses - you might make a fortune!

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 2:42 pm EST

Rangers Report @rangersreport AV would only say Kreider is out indefinitely. He skated on his own after practice

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 2:33 pm EST

TD-no doubt he has to put on 10-15 lbs of muscle Surprising, since he's 24, you would think he'd have filled out some-must be the cafeteria food.. I'm sure they'll get him on a program over the summer (no horsemeat please!). I think that's the problem with Diaz defensively also, not being able to separate players from the puck because of size/weight. Of course, Tory Krug is proving that's not such a bad thing.

puckyou


Tue Apr 15 2014 1:49 pm EST

RF4L - Keep trying to post this, but it keeps disappearing...You're right, BODIE is a skinny dude. Honestly, I couldn't see him packing on much more than another 10 pounds. It's just his frame. But it's his size that allows him to be so mobile. He's strong on his skates and sneaky...can get a pass and dance into the zone around forwards...there's a reason he's the college's all-time leading scorer...He played real well against Minnesota and some of the big boys they have there, so it'll be interesting to see how he does in the A...I'm not saying he's the next Leetch or even a lock to ever pull on a Rangers' jersey. But they got a really good player in Bodie...and as Messier said, he's got character in spades...at the bare minimum, he'll be an asset to the Pack and a great role model. Actually, all three of the NCAA kids they've brought in are very good pickups.

tdchi


Tue Apr 15 2014 1:40 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS6F4WtdbvI Bodie against Providence-great shot

puckyou


Tue Apr 15 2014 1:32 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2014/04/15/injury-scare-for-derick-brassard-at-rangers-practice/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow

puckyou


Tue Apr 15 2014 1:29 pm EST

puckyou - Nope. He surfed that bitch all the way to Union College.

tdchi


Tue Apr 15 2014 1:12 pm EST

I thought Bodie was killed by that wave at the end of Point Break!

puckyou


Tue Apr 15 2014 1:10 pm EST

TD-I saw the frozen 4, and Gost played great at both ends in the final. That said, we picked up a few good college prospects for nothing-I'm happy since we have no 1st rounder. I think in the cap era, it make sense to target these college free agents and hope we continue to do so.

puckyou


Tue Apr 15 2014 12:48 pm EST

Hospo/Wild -- no matter.... Nothing will harsh on my mellow right now! Rangers in 5!

JFC31


Tue Apr 15 2014 12:43 pm EST

td: Just came across twitter...his contract with the Flyers starts in the Fall, he just signed an ATO with the AHL team. Do not believe he can play under a PTO for the playoffs unless its an emergency....like not having a healthy goalie. At least that's how I have come to understand it.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 12:40 pm EST

Yes I stated that the Hawks have gotten a ton of picks...but you miss that they have won the cup, and by trading some of those players they got the extra picks. They won the cup first THEN added picks with players they would not be able to retain due to the cap. I would imagine, as most cup winning teams would do, if there was no cap the original cup team would be almost totally intact. And from all those picks...the "extra" ones they got...well they got a couple players out of them....nothing special really...Bickle is probably the best of those extra picks...now Saad I think was an extra pick will surpass him I am sure. The rest of those extra picks the rest of those extra picks either haven't made it yet (like the 2010 crop of 4 second rounders) or never will...at least with the Hawks...so it had little or nothing to do with why they won the cup or have been a threat over those years.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 12:37 pm EST

Here's the good news and the bad new of the day folks. Good news is that BODIE is a Ranger. From watching him play on and off over the last four years, I can say he's got talent. He's the school's captain leading all-time scorer and oozes character. My only reservations on him is that he's a what-you-see-is-what-you-get player. At 24, he's not going to improve much and the real question will be if he can hang with the tougher competition. In the NCAA, he's been a man playing with boys...my other concern is his size. He's a skinny guy and I worry that he's gonna get tossed around a lot...but with that caveat, he's a great signing. On par with the HAGGARTY signing, maybe better. Could end up being the Rangers' Torey KRUG, which would be incredible...Now the bad news: Shayne GOSTISBEHERE is a Flyer. That's real bad news. This kid is lethal on the blueline. If anyone watched the Frozen Four, that's only the beginning of what he can do. Because he's a draft pick, it's entirely possible he ends up playing in the series at some point. And I feel safe in saying that's something none of us are going to want to see.

tdchi


Tue Apr 15 2014 12:29 pm EST

And in reality, Seguin was the only asset from that Kessel trade on the team the cup year, and that year just like the rest he didn't do all that much, hence why he was traded, The palyers that had an impact were guys liek Horton, Kelly, Campbell, Seidenberg, and Daniel Paille...and you know how they got those guys right....right? They were parts of deals in which the Bruins sent picks the other direction. (1st 2nd and 3rd rounders) that doesnt even include 1st,2nd, and 3rd round picks being traded after the fact as prospects, and they did that as well...you want to point to them getting high picks and players that made an impact, even though those players didn't have much impact, but you want to look away from the players that made an impact who were acquired with picks being moved the other way.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 12:22 pm EST

The Hawks have been accumulating extra picks for the past 5 years, giving them the luxury of moving picks if/when needed. Also, the Hawks have won the cup twice during that time.

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 12:19 pm EST

RF4L: I was talking raw number of picks the rangers didnt have any less picksyou said those teams keep there, if they had and made the trade (Like kessel) they would have had 3 more top picks...and now you say that the assets they got back in the trades of the picks got the cup...so that's OK that they moved them? Am I getting that right? SO it would be OK if the Ragners won the cup this year or next with the help of lets say MSL and Nash? Or would trading those picks still be bad?

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 12:11 pm EST

Wild: The Bruins also added picks (and very high ones at that) via trading Kessel (a 2nd overall and a 9th overall). They also won the cup AND went to the finals via the assets received in those trades.

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 11:46 am EST

Hospo: I figured...but couldn't pass up the chance to rip the current flyers team at least a little bit.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 11:36 am EST

WILD - Wow.....Really? I was just busting JFC chops on his FLA vacation superstition....no analysis/prediction intended!

Hospo


Tue Apr 15 2014 11:29 am EST

Hospo: But the Flyers were Oh so much better then...now they just seem to always be kind of a mess in some way or another...not that they are not a good team on most nights...but my oh my can tehy really crap the bed.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 11:27 am EST

also the Rangers have the same number of 1st rounder and 2 more second rounders than your other example LA. The only team with more 1st and 2nd rounders is the hawks...who loaded up with seconds (19) and had one more 1st (11) . And just like the Rangers MANY of those picks have yet to, or never will play an NHL game or have been traded in recent years. Basically there is no validity to the argument that the top teams, recent cup winners, have done any more hanging on to picks than the Rangers, save for Chicago in the 2nd round...and some of those came via trades of higher picks ( 2nds for a first for instance) or by trading past first/2nd round picks as players (Ruutu for Ladd, Ladd as part of a package that got 2 seconds). All teams move picks...again, i would love to see some of the prospects that are mid level, who will be 4th line players at best, moved, even if its for 4th and 5th round picks...can always take a couple 4th rounders and move them for a late 3rd, move two 3rds to get a high third or a second, or trade a mid 2nd for 2 late seconds, or a late second that year and one the next year....i would love more picks...but again, this team is closer to winning than a high pick...you think about the closer option, not the further one.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 11:24 am EST

JFC31 - Not a bad run in 97, true, but who did we eventually lose to? The Flyers!...

Hospo


Tue Apr 15 2014 11:17 am EST

Hello, everyone! I'm in FLA for vacay.....looking forward to the POs. After several marguerites I have just had a flashback..... For those of you who are as superstitious as I, it's a tasty tidbit.....last time I was in FLA while the Rangers were in the POs was 1997.... Not a bad run that year, eh? Good to see you back, Hospo....you're like Michael Corleone in Godfather 3! Also good to see you, TDCHI!

JFC31


Tue Apr 15 2014 11:16 am EST

As a matter of fact, in the last 10 years the Rangers have had MORE Fisrt AND more Second round picks than the Bruins....Rangers had 10 firsts and 12 seconds, Bruins had 8 firsts and 10 seconds.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 11:11 am EST

rf4l make your picks.... Chris Peters @chrismpeters Great news for NHL Draft followers, http://FASTHockey.com will stream all of Team USA's games at the World U18 Championship for free.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 11:10 am EST

stevie- I saw it. typical shit. Now at least I can feel sympathy instead of embarrassment.

Messier11


Tue Apr 15 2014 11:02 am EST

RF4L: The Bruins traded away their 2010 1st, 2011 1st and 2nd, and 2012 2nd. The Hawks traded their 2010 1st and 2nd, 2011 2nd, 2013 2nd and 2014 2nd. Seems teams that win DO trade high picks...across the same drafts period the Rangers have traded 2 first rounders ('15,'13) 4 2nd rounders (one of them they got in trade both went for Erixon and most thought it was a good trade I might add) so 3 of their own 2nd rounders. Its not like the Rangers are trading away picks at a rate SO much higher than those two teams. Yes there will be a 2nd that becomes a first if the Rangers make the ECF, but then that was part of the point of the trade...and if they make it there MSL will be a BIG part of it. The point is, teams that want to win sooner rather than alter dont hang onto what they think will be late picks if they need something. You point to two teams with limited holes, and they STILL traded higher picks at about the same rate as the Rangers (first 2 rounds) the Rangers have/had more holes than those teams....and its hard to compare anyway unless you think the Rangers will free fall for a couple seasons and have multiple top 5 picks....otherwise you build through smart drafting and development (hello 3rd round draft last year) and UFA signings (NCAA and NHL) and trades. Most teams do not get the benefit of a first overall pick, and even those that do can still suck...Edmonton I am calling your name here! Point is, the Rangers are close, closer than they have been for years and years, you don't hang onto something that will not help for a few more years and pray that you do just bad enough to get a chance at the number one overall pick. Because if you don't hope for that...trade the darn pick! And you know what, I am a big fan of getting kids in the system, always have been, always want the Rangers to trade back and pick up extra picks, move mid level prospects for picks just to get more to keep the flow, try to find another late pick like hank, or have what seems early on like a great 3rd round of multiple picks. HOWEVER you don't risk the now for the possible future, not when the team has shown it has the ability to win.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:55 am EST

mess this ones for you...get your barf bag out......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W58cRP9kvD4&feature=youtu.be

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:50 am EST

Flyers aren't sure if Mason will play The Flyers are cautiously optimistic that goalie Steve Mason will play in the playoff opener Thursday night against the New York Rangers. Philly.com Sports @phillysport

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:47 am EST

Pat Leonard ✔ @PLeonardNYDN Miller doesn't take rushes. Falk and Diaz skate as D extras. Carcillo works in with fourth line. Talbot the extra goalie, obv .....miller does now....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:45 am EST

Centers- Richards, Stepan, Moore, and either JT Miller and Boyle.....do the Rangers have any other pivots?

TradeStar28


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:45 am EST

Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord J.T. Miller takes Brassard's spot on the second power play unit between Zuccarello and Pouliot.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:45 am EST

Pat Leonard ✔ @PLeonardNYDN #NYR at practice: Poul-Brass-Zucc, Nash-Step-MSL, Hag-Rich-Fast, Boyle-DMoore-Dorsett. McDonagh-G, Staal-Stral, JMoore-Klein. Lundqvist

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:44 am EST

Maybe Brassard was having pain in his back region prior to the practice today and that is why they called up JT Miller as a pre-caution?

TradeStar28


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:39 am EST

According to Gross " And BRASSARD leaves the ice clutching his lower back"...Hopefully nothing, but injuries will be a factor the further you...all of Fast, Carcillo, Miller need to be ready to contribute..

Hospo


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:38 am EST

but Sather is a genius, that trumps smart......

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 10:09 am EST

Wild: In that case 28 teams have loser attitudes, including Chicago, Boston and LA, the last 3 cup winners - they have their 15 first rounders. That's called being smart.

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:59 am EST

RF4L: they will make the playoffs. Or just miss. You don't risk winning with this roster (or one very close) so you can keep a 6% chance at winning the lottery. Again. It's a loser attitude to say "we won't be good so let's keep the pick" when they are one of only two teams with playoff series wins the last two years in a row and have made the playoffs what 9 of the last 10 seasons or some such. So next year, with basically the same roster with young guys having another year experience they will regress...and so much so they will have more than a 6% chance in the lottery.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:59 am EST

STEVIE - agree with that little summary of coaches,,,AV did a good job this year but now it's the POs and it's a red flag that he and his talented teams choked in the POs the past two times and got upset/bounced in the first round....To me, AV has as much proving to do as some of the players..Hopefullly he does it.

Hospo


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:54 am EST

MFRED - If you do get down to RICH, let me know, it's only an hour away!...Don't get up to NY as much anymore except for Funerals!....Hopefully this summer and we got a lot of relatives on the Island.

Hospo


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:53 am EST

BTW, don't be surprised to see the Sedin twins' names being attached to Ranger rumours come the end of the Rangers season, especially if they go out quickly. IMO, it's a decent possibility that the Canucks will shop them and if so, for sure that's something that Sather would almost for sure explore, especially considering the fact that BR will likely be bought out, thereby freeing up a chunk of salary that could be used on the twins. What they would cost, however, would likely be the single biggest reason for it not coming to fruition.

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:46 am EST

Fair enough Mess: Personally, I like the notion of some prospects being 24 - theoretically it means they are closer to being NHL ready than not. And of course there are lots of examples of smaller defensemen having solid NHL careers - it's just tougher is all. That plus the fact that the Rangers are hardly a physical team and with those stats, Bodie is likely only to enhance that aspect of the team. I wish I'd watched more of the that championship game - it was on TSN and I watched about a period to get a gander at Skeji (who didn't have a strong game); I had no idea the Rangers were pursuing Bodie. I sure like what is being said about his character - can never have enough of those kind of players in the system IMO.

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:42 am EST

Guessing that Syvret and Johnson won't be back with Hartford next season. Same probably goes for Bickel

Messier11


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:25 am EST

165 lbs better be pure muscle.... Needs to bulk up ....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:22 am EST

Wild- ill just post the standard disagreement of your Torts assessment. It's too tiresome to repeat point-by-point

Messier11


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:20 am EST

RF- like I said: BEFORE anyone freaks out about his age

Messier11


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:16 am EST

And about the guy some people on here love to LOVE, he's had 14 years on the job. FOURTEEN YEARS! Yeah, I'd say it's about time he won something of note.

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:14 am EST

Hospo....been awhile since I've gone through Dulles or National since I fly mostly to the West Coast or Internationally on United Airlines. I do get to Richmond about 2x a year......how about yourself....ever up this way?

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:13 am EST

veenyo and talkerella got fired for valid reasons, whether you agree or not. And I doubt the mouth survives the new gm to be hired. I think Veenyo has done a good job, but he's a little slow to make improvements , and seems to think finesse will win out. the teams that win it all have to be able to withstand the physical intimidation of most hockey teams, and do some of their own.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:13 am EST

Who's 'freaking out' over Bodie's age? Did I miss something?

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:12 am EST

Wild: Enough already right back at ya dude. If you're gonna post all snotty like, get your facts straight first. As I've said on here repeatedly, all non-PO teams now have a chance at landing the first overall pick. This new wrinkle was part of the latest bargaining agreement. Are you prepared to bet your house that the Rangers will make the POs next year?

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 9:09 am EST

OK, so the guy everyone loves to HATE...Sather...I need to say something good, and give him props. Now it is either him or someone he put in place (or a group of people) and that makes it his good decision on those people around him, has turned things around in NY for the Rangers. I know that under his watch NY was STILL for quite some time a place that you went to to "retire" HOWEVER, he made changes after some time. He got Renney in who began to change the culture, brought some pride back to the team, than he got Torts who brought an identity to the Rangers that exists still a full season after his departure and I don't think it will go away, its part of the Players on the team. All of this has created something in NY...players want to be part of the team. MSL wanted the Rangers only...if the Rangers still sucked, would he perhaps have been open to being traded to one of three metro teams, and perhaps even Boston (not too far away) but for sure perhaps he would have been OK with the Devils? Look at the NCAA UFAs, a few have signed just this year that were sought after, considered top end College UFAs...why choose the NYR? Why not a team less deep so there is a better chance of playing? IMHO it has to do with the mentality of the Rangers, they want to win, they play hard, there is a desire to be in NY and to be playing home games at MSG above and beyond anything since the years right after the cup...and maybe not for many years before those few seasons as well. We have to give Sather some credit, it wasn't just dumb luck. He made choices, he put people around him and together those things added up to what we have today, a team that finished the season strong and has a chance to make a deep run in the playoffs, and has the pieces to make the same type of run for a few years.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:58 am EST

stevielegs: At the same time, the collapse of the Canucks this season I think says something...they are not the same team, not the same players (even the ones who still play there) they are not as good. People who say that Torts destroyed the team, well I call BS on them, Torts got the under skilled Rangers into the playoffs and won playoff rounds with them. Hell the ECF year had less skill than this year, and years PRIOR to that (at least IMHO) so Torts can get a team to play above itself, if not to go deep in the playoffs, at least the regular season, the fact that VAN couldn't even keep up on the ice for most of the season says to me that the players (at least the top players) are not as good. Torts called out the team for being too old, and it looked that way, their top lines are not getting any younger and they have had more than their fare share of injuries. So with all of that said (sorry for the length there) I don't know if you can point to AV and say it was his coaching....his goalies covered a lot of the inability of the team, and since BOTH the top guys have been moved the problems were much more visible in the standings. Lets not forget, that for a couple seasons in the playoffs AV brought his squad to a .600 winning% one year and over .500 another....not bad when you don't win the cup....

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:54 am EST

Steve Zipay @stevezipay D-man Mat Bodie, Union College captain, agrees to terms of entry-level deal with #NYR, bit.ly/R9lFGh

puckyou


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:54 am EST

Stevie, don't gloss over the fact that the preceding season he went to game seven of the finals.

Messier11


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:51 am EST

Before everyone freaks about his age, he is 24 years and one month old.

Messier11


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:50 am EST

RF4L: Really..enough already. I would bet my house that the Rangers are not a lottery team next year....there would have to be such catastrophic injuries and such a downturn in play...wont happen. And dont give me some they were a playoff bubble team this year stuff, because they were not, being a bubble team mean it is a tossup, without help you dont get in. But the Rangers clinched with a few games to go, and clinched a top 3 division spot with 1 game left, and many many teams were in the same boat, all but 2 or 3 in each conference went down to the final 5 games...not all but 5 or 6 teams are bubble teams. Saying you hang onto a first round pick in case you suck is basically keeping the mindset that you cant win, you don't think like that when you are only a season (a lockout season at that) removed from a ECF and with a world class Goalie and a World class D corp...and a couple World Class forwards. End of story...you go into every decision with the idea that you can win, and win soon if not now. Hanging on to a bottom 5-7 pick in the first round will not be the decider of winning or not winning the cup in the next 3-4 years.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:50 am EST

Vigneault, who was 1-8 in his last two playoff series with Vancouver

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:48 am EST

Plenty of 6' defenders with their names on the Stanley Cup. From what little I've read about Bodie, it seems he was the epitome of what a captain is supposed to be, for a championship college team. I'll take that over a couple extra inches every day of the week.

Messier11


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:44 am EST

stevie: Imagine if Ottawa wins the lottery? Anaheim will gleefully get to pick first overall. Oh the folly of trading away first round draft picks before you know where that selection will be. At least for Ottawa there's no Jake Eichel or Connor McDavid sitting atop the draft.

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:42 am EST

"Ola our hope rests in his shoulders more than anyone else on the team besides the coach who's record in the playoffs was not good the in the past two he was in....".......... Yeah, making the Stanley Cup finals really sucks.

RJ


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:40 am EST

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449396

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:35 am EST

Yikes - he's 6' and 165 and at 24 years of age, likely won't get much bigger. Another rather under-sized Ranger, something Sather is quite good at accumulating it seems. DOH!

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:33 am EST

TD ahead of the curve yesterday - apparently it's official; Bodie is now property of the Rangers: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nhl/story/_/id/10784621/new-york-rangers-land-college-free-agent-mat-bodie

RF4L


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:24 am EST

Ola our hope rests in his shoulders more than anyone else on the team besides the coach who's record in the playoffs was not good the in the past two he was in....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:08 am EST

stevielegs- I think Hank has played like 67 games in the NHL PO's. In very few of them, like less than 10 probably, at the most like 17, has he played for the "better" team. And he has a good record in the PO's, somewhat at least.

Ola


Tue Apr 15 2014 8:00 am EST

great schedule by nonothing hockey losers ( nhl).... Steve Zipay ✔ @stevezipay #NYR G1, 4/17, MSG 7 p.m.; G2 4/20 Noon; G3 4/22 Phil 8 p.m.; G4.4/25.Philly 7 p.m. G5 4/27 MSG noon, G6, 4/29, Phil, TBD; G7.4/30, TBD .......

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 7:59 am EST

Steve Zipay ✔ @stevezipay 10 NHL teams amassed 100 or more points. With these matchups, at least three will not advance past first round.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 7:42 am EST

Up denial river ...http://nypost.com/2014/04/14/lundqvist-i-dont-feel-i-have-to-prove-i-can-play-in-the-playoffs/

stevielegs


Tue Apr 15 2014 5:52 am EST

Mfred hedge your bet...http://nypost.com/2014/04/14/vegas-starts-rangers-at-20-1-to-win-stanley-cup/

stevielegs


Mon Apr 14 2014 11:42 pm EST

MFRED - No worry, I trust you! It's RF4L I worry about..:)...You seem to be a traveler, ever fly thru DC?,,could meet ya at Dulles or National for a beer!

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 9:49 pm EST

Just so it's perfectly clear on here: I HATE the Flyers. And I mean PHUCKING HATE them.

RF4L


Mon Apr 14 2014 9:39 pm EST

Actually, I think he passed through this afternoon, so Id say its impossible.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 9:22 pm EST

http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/lyrics.html

stevielegs


Mon Apr 14 2014 9:13 pm EST

It's highly doubtful that any playoff team picks up Colby Robak. He'd have to clear waivers to be sent down or stay with the team throughout the playoffs. He also already cleared waivers in September.

Rhet0ric


Mon Apr 14 2014 8:50 pm EST

Hospo.....I truly am trying to pay my debt but you need to tell me where you are! So 21 years and counting. Like I said earlier 21 years and counting......

MelvilleFred


Mon Apr 14 2014 8:05 pm EST

here

mf


Mon Apr 14 2014 8:05 pm EST

TDCHI: Nice to see you her again, thanks for the info on Bodie

mf


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:30 pm EST

And while saying that, I also think that AV did a fine job with the team this year and hope/trust he continues it in the POs...We'll see..it's a different game.

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:27 pm EST

Mess...I'm sorry...please forget what I said about Torts, I was just being a scooch......Forgot how serious you were.....Tort's is a meaningless subject...............Yes, AV is in the PO today and that is truly what is important .to Ranger fans.....I think he has a team that can and should beat Philly but he has to find the balance between the Rangers playing their game but also being able to respond to (or protect from) the toughenss/ dirtiness of the Flyers...We have the players...But also rememember that AV choked and layed two huge eggs the last two years..Don't want to see it happen again

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:21 pm EST

AV is in the POs TODAY.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:20 pm EST

Id hate to think what would have happened if he'd inherited a roster like Florida's, or Nashville's. Maurice accomplished more with Winnipeg.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:16 pm EST

what he has, is a coach who doesn't know how to win in the regular season, much less the playoffs.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:16 pm EST

And AV's?

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:13 pm EST

Torts' last trip to the playoffs was backing in ranked sixth, edging past Wash in seven games, and then being swept. A winning tradition, indeed!

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:08 pm EST

Did I say "win the Cup"? I was mainly alluding to Tort's and AV's last two trips to the POs..

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:03 pm EST

not in this decade, he doesn't

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:02 pm EST

OTOH, I agree with STEVIE, although not as emphatically about the killing and maiming the Flyers will try do...This is not the regular season....this is the POs ..the Flys will be physical and will be running people...the Rangers don't have to match it but If he's not careful and armed, his team can be bounced in the first round for the third year in a row..Use all your assets AV

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 6:58 pm EST

Sedin needs to toughen up and grow a pair, realize that he has a coach that knows how to win in the POs and just follow his lead

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 6:54 pm EST

and this too: http://www.theprovince.com/sports/hockey/calgary-flames/Brian+Burke+blasts+Canucks+coach+John/9738074/story.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 6:33 pm EST

I don't think veenyo really knows the Cryers and the east playoffs enough to really get it ... They will intend to injure the nyr stars.... The are going to war , and veenyo seems to be going to gentlemens' playoffs.... As usual the nyr think they can win with finesse ... That's a tough road to navigate.... Especially against those pos.... I hope ulfie gets it thru his head... And Nash better not cry... Time for messier nasty.... Use the stick as protection alias a weapon... Do the booby Clarke sneak butt end slide....can't just bring a knife to a gunfight ...

stevielegs


Mon Apr 14 2014 6:19 pm EST

Interesting quote from Sedin after Tortorella said publicly that Vancouver's core is "too old": "You never want to use injuries (as an excuse but) we had a tough year," said Henrik. "We had guys playing out of position. We had guys playing more minutes than they were used to. "We had to play a different way and we weren't able to win playing that way."

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 6:11 pm EST

TDCHI - Cool stuff...Good job by Sather in going after the College FAs given the loss of draft picks...Hopefully some of these turn out to be winners.

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 6:09 pm EST

Mess could be right or it could just mean that they want all the players that they think can possibly help in the first round run (YOU NEED DEPTH!), practicing with the team and not wasting time or risking injury in Hartford this weekend.....IMO, still foolish not to go with Carcillo AND Dorset but, AV should know his team by now..

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 5:52 pm EST

the cryers hate the nyr. they will play them just like the play the playpens and most teams, dirty......their coach is their leader....a real nut case goon......

stevielegs


Mon Apr 14 2014 5:47 pm EST

Per Katie Strang: "#NYR Hearing that the Rangers are closing in on college free agent Mat Bodie, offensive defenseman from Union College." Bodie, FYI, is a class act and a great player. Very underrated. While Union's Gostisbehere is the flashy star, Bodie is the heart of that team and about as solid a player as they come...would be a great signing by the Rangers. Older player. Would be able to step into the mix. Lefty, mobile puck mover. Captain of the team. A leader in all regards.

tdchi


Mon Apr 14 2014 5:43 pm EST

playoffs are more suited for a vet like carcillo, especially against his former team..ssssss......let the cryers go after him...he knows how to turtle......

stevielegs


Mon Apr 14 2014 5:40 pm EST

barry no neck trotz no more job.....15 years and out.....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 14 2014 5:31 pm EST

Miller and Fast up means that either we have more injuries than previously known, or (and more likely) either Carcillo or Dorsett is sitting. My bet's on Carcillo.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 5:27 pm EST

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449330.....................http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449349

stevielegs


Mon Apr 14 2014 5:21 pm EST

For me, I'd go with Fast for that 3rd line, then Miller and then when needed for toughness using Carcillo later in the series and keeping MIller as a fillin for later games if there is an injury on one of the top 2 lines. Curious to see what AV will actually do with the lineup....is it Thursday yet?

Ranger47


Mon Apr 14 2014 4:40 pm EST

MILLER recall makes sense..The only other viable option talentwise in the AHL, .....no sense risking an injury to him in AHL play.......Hopefully the kid gets his head on straight....Personally, i'd go with Carcillo and his toughtness and chance of dirty goals then Miller (if he is now WORTHY)..then Fast

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 4:30 pm EST

Are teams allowed to dress 1 extra player for the PO's, bringing the total to 21 ? (thank you)

mf


Mon Apr 14 2014 4:25 pm EST

Wild: Could be an early end of season Pack recall - they finish this weekend and have zero chance of making the POs...

RF4L


Mon Apr 14 2014 3:54 pm EST

Wonder if he found that "commitment" AV was concerned with

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 3:52 pm EST

Miller has been recalled...a little confused by this move...

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 3:03 pm EST

Like I said, with our personnel....

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 3:02 pm EST

We have Fast.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:58 pm EST

MESS - With our personnel (or lack thereof without Kreider) it's worth revisiting given the Flyer matchup and especially in the POs, a totally different game..JMO..

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:53 pm EST

AV tried all of Carcillo, Moore, Boyle on the upper three. It was something that was worth trying, and I had thought it would have been better. But none of them lasted longer than a game.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:49 pm EST

WILD - Just to clarify, I Don't want Carcillo in the lineup to play Flyer hockey....I think he will help the rest of the team, as yo say, stick to their game and play Ranger hockey....and also to have him around for other scenarios

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:47 pm EST

I think between Moore , Boyle, Carcillo and Dorsettr, you can more than fill the time for the rolling of lines...... and in the POs it is often not the ability that matters but the experience and desire to go the extra effort for that dirty goal, that scrum, that check, that pass.....I have no doubt that Carcillo and Dorsett will do that...but I'm not sure Fast will at this point in his career...But, it's AV's call.

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:41 pm EST

RF73: That's what I have been talking about...PIT always try to out hit and out muscle the Flyers...the one year they tried to out-skate and outscore them they sent 4 guys in the offensive zone every rush and gave up a million odd man rushes....they went from trying to out physical them to just ignoring D....that and the man in net in PIT has been TERRIBLE the last few playoffs. Anyway, if the Rangers play THEIR game and play against the Flyers instead of trying to play with the Flyers and beat them at their own style they will be OK. They let the Flyers dictate the style and tempo and it will be a hard slog.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:40 pm EST

Yep..97...wasn't that the "passing of the torch" from Messier to Lindros series? ...I hated him, buit Lindros was something when healthy,

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:38 pm EST

Mess: Thats what I see...but as I just pointed out...I could argue BOTH sides...its a tough call, and a good problem to have for AV.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:37 pm EST

Even the maroons at NBC were talking about how successful the Flybarf are at getting the Pit Crosbabies "away from their game". Their intimidation can be very effective if you let it get to you. Discipline!

RF73


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:36 pm EST

Hospo: I dont disagree about what you say really...its really, IMHO, almost "6 of 1 half dozen of another" There are pros and cons for each, and its a tossup...and to think, Kreider is still injured....a VERY good problem to have. Either way, Carcillo, or Fast, if a forward needs to sit for injury, or for being a idiot and not playing well or needs rest, both fast and Carcilo are "safe" good options....for the first time in years the Rangers will have a little depth at forward and D. At least 1 player from the forward lines and 1 from D will be out and they have shown good enough to be in...if and when Kreider gets back there will be 2 forwards and a D who have proven they can play and will be in the press-box...2 D if you count Falk who WOULD have been playing in years past.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:36 pm EST

Fast has better offensive ability than Carcillo even if it hasn't reflected in his stats yet. We've seen that he finishes his checks, which of course Carcillo does also. What sets them apart is that Fast can handle about twice the minutes, can play with Hags and Brich without slowing them down. That's why I think he gets the nod. It sounds great to play Dorsett and Carcillo, but it's much more valuable to roll four reliable lines.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:32 pm EST

hard to believe that the Flyers and rangers have not met in the post season since 1997! At least that's what TSN shows...

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:30 pm EST

And by offense with Carcillo, I obviously don't mean finess/skill but dirty goals and going to the net, things you need in the POs..

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:27 pm EST

WILD - We disagree...I think you're undersetimating Carcillo...Like you said, he hasn't been stupid for the Rangers and actually can play the game fairly well...All I see is "responsibility" from Fast.. I think we might get more toughtness and offense from Carcillo. as well as maybe draw a penalty or two.....And he's also a better player to have if it gets way out of hand at the end of game 1 with the Flyers being down and wanting to send messages..I see no reason not to play him...or Dorset..IF Fast brought a lot of offense or something else, it might be a consideration to me...

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:22 pm EST

Hospo: While I get your point i.e. Fast, putting Carcillo in plays right into the Flyers hands, and they are affecting the way "you" play before the first puck is even dropped. The Flyers thrive on playing against cusses like Carcillo, games when they need to actually play hockey they loose....teams that go skill on skill with them tend to do well, teams that try to match their physicality end up losing. I would see how fast does in game 1, if he can handle the extra pressure and can bring some solidity to the 3rd line, that could make a big difference, Carcillo has not taken many bad penalties with the Rangers, but I don't trust that in a series against the scumbag Flyers that they wouldn't get to him and have him hurt the Rangers by being in the box multiple times.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:18 pm EST

MF - It definitely was/is...Just thought it leaves to much time for fan analysis!

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:16 pm EST

I don't think the Flyers "goon it up" from the start but they will be physical out of the Shoot...hitting everything....Then goons if they get down,,,,Personally, I'd rather not see FAST again until next year...He's a responsible player but.,,,,. with an injured McD and players like nash, Step, Richards , St, Louis needing to perform....I like BOTH Dorsett and Carcillo in the lineup, on different lines and spreading some toughness around...especially against a team like the Flyers...And CARCILLO also seems to play well against them and gets under their skin...Let Fast watch and learn...But, it's up to AV and it's decisions like this that will help shape him and the series

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:12 pm EST

Hospo, I actually thought the extra day off was good for MCD & Kreider. Naturally, its a two way street, Philthy gets to nurse injuries an additional day too.. I'm hoping, "advantage Rangers."

mf


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:12 pm EST

RF73: The PP clicked along for the full season at around 21% on the road....and about 18% overall...that's WITH a terrible end to the season on the PP. You don't get those numbers by sucking on the PP....the Rangers have the skill and personnel to get PP goals...ALSO this year, even when they don't score on the PP its brings momentum more often than not...unlike in years past when they got worse the more PPs they had. They also had less PP opportunities down the stretch than early. Do you really think the Flyers want to put Nash, MSL, Zucc, McD, BRich, Stepan, Pouliot, Kreider if he gets back, and others on the PP 5 or 6 times per game? Or right off the first puck drop? Yeah, I hope they step out on the ice and send a guy to the box...set the tone, show the Rangers how tough they are, and the Rangers will get a lot of "practice" on the PP. At the very least it will tire out the top defenders and top PK guys for the flyers, get them extra bruises, and give the Rangers the opportunity later in games and later in the series to do some damage.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:07 pm EST

Wild don't put words in my mouth. I said I wouldn't be surprised, and you probably wouldn't either. Detroit did pretty good this season, renney has a pretty good record and no 'incidents', so to speak, nary has a player spoken ill, has obviously been able to work with Babcock and hands-on GMs like Sather, MacT, Lowe. Yes I wouldn't be surprised. And 'WOW'? Really? It's been on a number of front pages for weeks, has been tsn poll question since before gillis was gone. Writing has been on the wall for months, so I have to have insider info to suggest Torts is getting fired?? Come on, let's keep the convo reality-based, at least.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:04 pm EST

steam should be STEAL

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:04 pm EST

Ranger47...If I'm the Flyshits I'm gooning it up from the opening faceoff...What makes you think ANYBODY in the league is afraid of the Ranger powerplay?...Yeah occasionally they bag a relatively meaningless PPG...but overall, when it really really counts, the powerplay has literally sucked all the way back to the pre-Renney days. (had to throw that in)...I hope I'm wrong but so far...???

RF73


Mon Apr 14 2014 2:03 pm EST

Ranger47: Oh I thought you meant who would be on certain lines...I think Fast will be IN the lineup. Carcillo being in will set a certain tone for the series...and i dont think the Ragners are built to try and slug it out with any team, they need to force their game onto the Flyers and make the Flyers try to ratchet up the physicality, with that they will make mistakes and take penalties. If the Rangers play both Doresett and Carcillo it will bring a game more suited to the Flyers liking. Fast is smart with and without the puck and would be more about playing hockey skill wise, not goon wise. That and adding Carcillo is a spark type addition, Fast is not, so if they struggle a little Carcillo can be added to bring some new energy and to steam a Torts thing, jam, to the lineup....that's what you want to add to change momentum, not a guy like Fast.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 1:58 pm EST

Yes - that was my point. Either Carcillo or Fast will probably play/be scratched. Which one will it be? You suspect it would be Fast with the vet (Carcillo) playing. But, Fast fits the third line better. Should be interesting to see who AV chooses...

Ranger47


Mon Apr 14 2014 1:55 pm EST

Ranger47: one of the 2 will likely be a scratch...don't forget MSL was a healthy scratch last game and Carcillo was added.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 1:46 pm EST

I'm curious to see what happens in the first game concerning Carcillo or Fast. The latter is better defensively and his speed fits well with Hags and BRich. Obviously, Carcillo can better handle the rough stuff. Personally, I'd use Fast until/unless the Flyers show that they plan to goon it up - more likely starting around game 3 since they probably don't want us on the PP too often in the first 2 games. JMHO

Ranger47


Mon Apr 14 2014 1:42 pm EST

So, I guess that Torts vs Renney are the prelims before the Rangers-Flyers? Best of 5 with Renney having home court advantage? :) Let's focus on the real stuff, guys!

Ranger47


Mon Apr 14 2014 1:39 pm EST

Rangers are going into the playoffs and we still talking about fuggin Torts and Renney? holy shit! enuff

TradeStar28


Mon Apr 14 2014 1:26 pm EST

WOW: must know something no one else does...granted Torts being let go would not be a shock...but umm...lets see if he is actually fired before it is held against him....and I don't care about this season...Renney hasn't had a HC job for a bit now...he got passed over by a bunch of openings...and somehow you think he will get one of the soon to be open jobs....

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 1:18 pm EST

Ill be surprised if Torts can even get an assistant's gig after this season, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if Renney is named to fill one of the many recent or soon-to-be vacancies

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 1:17 pm EST

Wild- the post-season is young. It doesn't matter where you were head coach if you've been fired twice in two years

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:57 pm EST

Mess: Ummmm...Renney doesn't even have a HC job...he is an assistant....so what does THAT say?

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:40 pm EST

It blows that we have to wait 4 days for this thing to get started! Of course the Rangers have to play at their best to beat the Flyers, and they have to play physical but not stray from their game...And while it is crucial for everybody to play well (duh!), the three key individuals that really have to elevate their PO performance and erase valid concerns about recent PO flops are Nash, Stepan and the big man himself, AV....face it, from a coaching standpoint, the only thing that matters in the NHL is if you have your team ready and able to win in the POs and if you can make the proper adjustment IN THE POS,....things at which AV seems to have done well this regular season but the POs are a different story as AV learned the past few years

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:36 pm EST

RF73 - That makes a lot of sense, it's exactly what the Flyers should do,.....Hopefully some quick puck movement will trap them.,..Makes Girardi really important if he can keep some of the heat off...Also..Times like this you wish The King was a better puck handler!........RF4L - Don't you think any team after going down 2-0 would come out looking for some flesh in the 3rd game?..But, some of the times they get too focused on that and end up going down 3-0 and the series is basically over,.

Hospo


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:23 pm EST

I think the biggest tell between Torts' and Renney's respective systems is that Renney has a job that isn't in jeopardy and his team is in the playoffs. We all know the other side of that coin.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:22 pm EST

Word down here is that the Flybags initial strategy is to concentrate on running McDonagh every chance they get; as they know he is already "damaged" goods and the Rangers best defenseman.

RF73


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:19 pm EST

RF- don't know that Rubak would fit in here, don't think we need someone like him for this run. Just interesting that he's on waivers. //// Franson is an offensive D, great first passer who I think would do well behind Girardi, could run a PP unit. Upgrade over Stralman and Diaz. The time to get him was two seasons ago, but his stock is down again and I would at least make a call.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:17 pm EST

Mess: Anyone picked up in any fashion now can not play in the playoffs....and the roster size limit is either over, or expanded, so as long as they have the room under the 50 contract rule they could grab someone in anticipation of using him next season.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:16 pm EST

archie: IMO, it's a given, especially if the Rangers go up in the series. A 2-0 margin will make the opening game in Philly nasty and IMO, it'll be who gets hurt on the Rangers, not will someone be hurt. And you're bang on about the league - I've been bitching about it for years and remain convinced the idiots in charge secretly crave the violence because they fear without it, they won't draw flies in the US in most markets.

RF4L


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:15 pm EST

anyone know what got Haley suspended yesterday?

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:15 pm EST

Mess: Torts system was to keep shots from getting on net, keeping the play to the outside, and to not over-commit in the offensive zone until possession of the puck was achieved...the point is, the Rangers blocked shots, kept the play to outside much of the time and didn't get caught to often with 3 guys below the hash-marks without the puck. There were a TON of goals scored against due to this from pucks hitting legs in front and changing direction (something we have seen MUCH less of this year) it was a system, just because you didn't like it doesn't make it any less of a system. I find it funny that you say Renney had a system, because former players who played in NY under him said there wasn't much of a system, that Renney left it up to the players to go offensively how they wanted, and had a framework for D but nothing solid....so really, his system was much more relaxed...both have their positives and negatives, but Torts had much more system in place.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:14 pm EST

BTW, almost for sure your boy Franson will be made available by the Leafs this off-season. Franson had a very average season this year and that's putting things mildly. He's an awkward skater who (this year anyways) is prone to jaw-dropping defensive blunders (ie putting the puck on opposing team's forwards' sticks in the Leaf zone). He's also an RFA who despite the questionable season, will be looking for a size-able raise. All that said, there are some intriguing aspects to his game, including size, puck-handling skills and a good accurate wrist shot that can be effective on the PP. In the right environment (ie a place where the coach's philosophies are adhered to), he has the ability to be a good 2nd pairing d-man. With Riley and Gardiner AND Franson, that's one too many offensive d-men I suspect. Riley isn't going anywhere, so it comes down to the other 2 and Gardiner appears to have more upside, so suspect Franson will be shopped in earnest.

RF4L


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:12 pm EST

Why do I get the feeling that hartnell or renaldo are going to run Lundquist???? hartnell gets a fine of $5,000 for trying to bayonet the carolina dman....sedin is sent to the hospital....renaldo tries to brain damage someone and gets 4 games.....what a league.....

archie5


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:08 pm EST

Could the Rangers even pick this guy up at this point? If they did, I assume someone on the current roster would have to go and who would that be? Finally, if they did pick him up it would be for next year because the POs isn't where you introduce into your lineup what appears to be, at this point (because he has trouble making the Panthers backline), a prospect with warts. I do like his size.

RF4L


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:04 pm EST

Wild- systems usually have a reasonable chance of achieving their objective. I don't think Torts' "system" qualifies. Hank's early years were with Renney, who did have a system, and one that employed a little more offense.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:02 pm EST

this person taken five selections before Stepan and is on waivers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB9HWLWpg9k http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=96685

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:01 pm EST

Mess: you put System in "" as if there wasn't really one...that is dead wrong. Now as for the wins that Hank had to get, yeah, he couldn't give up much or anything, however IMHO if the Rangers didn't play such a D first system a lot of those 2-1 and 1-0 games would have been 3-1, or 4-2 losses. They didn't have the offensive players to go back and forth with teams, so if they opened it up, they would not score much more but would give up more...especially the early years with Hank in net.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 11:48 am EST

Looking at marty from an objective point of view you have to say one of the top 5 of all time. I put him up there with Roy, Dryden. Say what you want about him and the system but he was an amazing goalie. Hasek and Grant Fuhr as well as Richter were very good but to me the first 3 I mentioned were the top

KIS


Mon Apr 14 2014 11:32 am EST

Wild- that same "system" also forced Hank to play perfect games, as wins could only be 1-0 or 2-1.

Messier11


Mon Apr 14 2014 11:06 am EST

stevielegs: In all honesty, Hank HAS had help from a team over the years that put 5 guys in front blocking shots....and with a good D that keeps lanes clogged up letting him have "easier" saves...hank would not have as many wins on a worse team. Again, he is still a top goalie, but his number have been helped by good team D. Nothing wrong with that...but it does help.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 11:02 am EST

Slegs: "The Chicago Cubs." ;->

mf


Mon Apr 14 2014 10:57 am EST

why has hank done it on his own, or has the team played a certain way to help him?

stevielegs


Mon Apr 14 2014 10:32 am EST

Ola: Just be yourself! ;^)

RF4L


Mon Apr 14 2014 9:30 am EST

Agree on uncle Marty...while IMHO the team in front of him and their style of play helped his stats. HOWEVER having said that, not all of it was the system and team. While his numbers were helped by that, he is still one of the top goalies of all time. Its not his fault that he played for a team with a system and players that helped him win. If he had played on worse teams he STILL would have set many of the records he currently holds, or if not set them would have been top 5 in all those categories. I may hate him, he may be a scumbag, but he is a supreme talent and the NHL needs to always have a couple goalies at that level or at least close to it or things just done seem to feel right.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 14 2014 9:08 am EST

Stevielegs....that stat does not work....I take NO comfort in the fact that other Franchises have been as unsuccessfull as the Rangers.....

MelvilleFred


Mon Apr 14 2014 9:07 am EST

OLA Good Question...not sure how much of his success was his talent and how much the system figured into it. At the end of the day wyou have to be pretty good at your craft to stay on top for 20 odd years. Personally never liked the guy but have to give him major props.

MelvilleFred


Mon Apr 14 2014 8:29 am EST

RF4L- When we as rangerfans paint Brouders career, should we be silly or level-headed? ;)

Ola


Mon Apr 14 2014 8:23 am EST

http://proicehockey.about.com/od/stanleycupbunker/a/stanley-cup-wins-team.htm...................http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_NHL_teams_have_never_won_the_Stanley_Cup...............http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_teams_haven%27t_won_the_stanley_cup.............http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Stanley_Cup_champions..............http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=656634...............need more? ............

stevielegs


Mon Apr 14 2014 8:06 am EST

IMO, I think it's silly (with all due respect) to argue that Martin Brodeur is not one of the best goalies of all time because of the team that played in front of him, but that doesn't mean he isn't slimy, something he doesn't get any negative attention about. We all know the lack of character and morals and integrity associated with his dissolved marriage - that sordid thing can never be even remotely justified IMO. A similar disgusting side of him has been on display for a couple of years now, first during the summer of 2012 when he allegedly investigated, as a UFA, signing elsewhere (rumours were rife he was coming to TO). It got worse with the pending trading deadline of last year, then this year where the media focused on the possibility of him being moved. In both deadlines, he tried to make it look like LL was behind all the rumours, but it sure looked to me that he was him fanning the flames. It was him he talked about it over and over as those deadlines got closer. Then of course, nothing. Just like nothing happened in the last 2 summers ago. Now, it's really amped up - the highlights up here this morning are full of that arrogant publicity hog's face talking about pending retirement and maybe his last game (blah blah blah), with adoring Devils fans chanting his name in the background. This man makes me sick. Shame on him. Wanna bet he resigns in NJ and we get to see this crap at next year's deadline and season's end. What a complete asshole. He's praised up here continually. Makes me wanna puke all over his fat face.

RF4L


Mon Apr 14 2014 7:00 am EST

Mfred how many more teams are on that 20 year or more list?..... Ola Francesco Ronaldo is suspended and I hope hartnell gets suspended for trying a spearing circumcision ....or castration ....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 14 2014 6:46 am EST

Stevielegs....to that math.....every year 1 GM wins a CUP and it hasn't been one of ours for the last 20 years....and this will be year 21 coming up.

MelvilleFred


Mon Apr 14 2014 3:51 am EST

Hehe, I am a little nervous about the series against Philly. I mean, we have played Washington twice and Boston last season in the PO's, and fared well. Philly got a bunch of players like Streit and co that are not big nor physical. They "only" really got Rinaldo, Stewert and Hartnell that make problem on the ice, and while Rinaldo can land a hit like the best of them, it alone shouldn't scare you. But...

Ola


Mon Apr 14 2014 12:00 am EST

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Vancouver/2014/04/13/21601076.html

stevielegs


Sun Apr 13 2014 11:54 pm EST

Rf4l by the way the math says 29 out of 30 gms every year don't win the cup..

stevielegs


Sun Apr 13 2014 11:52 pm EST

http://network.yardbarker.com/nhl/article_external/hockey_player_john_scott_gets_brutally_kod_by_rookie_justin_johnson/16262992?linksrc=story_article_yb_mobile_redirect_16262992

stevielegs


Sun Apr 13 2014 10:26 pm EST

For sure Philly will attempt to intimidate the Rangers and if the Rangers get up 2 games to nothing, it'll be open season on the King for game 3.

RF4L


Sun Apr 13 2014 10:14 pm EST

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1755029

stevielegs


Sun Apr 13 2014 10:12 pm EST

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/14/sports/hockey/bruins-coach-julien-eschews-negativity-and-builds-winners.html?referrer=

stevielegs


Sun Apr 13 2014 8:07 pm EST

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/watch-hartnell-spear-starts-brawl/

mf


Sun Apr 13 2014 8:01 pm EST

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/

stevielegs


Sun Apr 13 2014 7:59 pm EST

Looks like a circus schedule ...

stevielegs


Sun Apr 13 2014 7:39 pm EST

Complete playoff schedule...http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=714402&navid=nhl:topheads

DOUBLEN


Sun Apr 13 2014 6:04 pm EST

Scheidw....Agree the officiating will have an impact....So special teams could decide this series...We need our PP to be better than it has been lately and just continue what we are doing with the PK....Anybody watch the Flyers - Canes today?....That POS Hartnell speared a Canes player about as bad as you can....He received a 5 minute major and was tossed and it will be interesting to see what the league does....If he isn't suspended the entire discipline process is a farce....What a disgraceful organization the Flyers continue to be....

PJ


Sun Apr 13 2014 5:17 pm EST

schneid: I agree that there seems to be a lot of distress relative to constipated teams and the need for trades to loosen things up .I have no legit info and have not seen anything to suggest it, but if AV is not going to give Miller a chance to develop and I think Miller will, then I get a feeling that he will be the center piece for a trade with a similarly situated player: Evander Kane.

gene_carr


Sun Apr 13 2014 1:15 pm EST

Bottom line with the Rangers and this series is going to be scoring. If the Rangers "scorers" don't score as we have scene a lot this season they don't have a chance. Big players play big in big spots. Sometimes the Rangers big players leave me with doubt. Players like Zucc, Brass, and Poul are great but in a 7 game series the opposition will game plan for them. If this happens it should open thing up for players like Nash, Step, St. Louis, Richards, and Hags. They have to produce.

LetsGoRangers


Sun Apr 13 2014 1:03 pm EST

Also lets see how badly Mason is injured. Philly may be going in with Emery, who can hold his own some nights, but in a best of seven?

Messier11


Sun Apr 13 2014 12:55 pm EST

SCHNEIDW - What's good about playing a team like the Flyers in the first round is that IMO the refs call more things in the first round but allow much more, especially holding/interference and after the whistle garbage, as the POs go deeper and deeper... I think the Rangers are the more skilled and better team than the Flyers and should be able to withstand their physical game for a series.....But, I could see how others would feel differently.......But how the Rangers handle the Fyers physicality won't mean squat unless NASH has learned from last years PO "effort" and knows what is needed and if Stepan can avod taking a 6-7 game disappearing act like he does every PO..

Hospo


Sun Apr 13 2014 12:51 pm EST

It will be interesting to see how things settle in Buffalo, Calgary, Vancouver, Toronto this offseason. a lot of players will be made available. I could see McPhee going back to Vancouver.

Messier11


Sun Apr 13 2014 12:41 pm EST

"I don't think were a mediocre team".....Well, if I remember correctly the Rangers had 40 points at the 40 game mark. That means that they got 56 points in the second half of the season. That's a bit better than mediocre.

RJ


Sun Apr 13 2014 12:15 pm EST

MESS11- No doubt, more than ever I think this summer will involve ALOT more trades.. there are no longer quick fixes in free agency and several teams (WAS, VAN, TOR, EDM, WIN, CAL, PHX need a facelift.. .heck, if the NYRs get knocked out by PHL, they will be at the top of the list...

schneidw


Sun Apr 13 2014 12:13 pm EST

Mess/RF4L- If I can jump into your dialogue... from my view, I cannot judge the NYRs chances of advancing in the playoffs...I think it comes down to how the referees are going to call the games because friggin SATHER has built a small defenseless team and of course, NYRs draw the chippy Flyers in Round 1... they could either skate circles around PHL and sweep them or get pulverized/bang up/ into a 7 game drudgery if the refs lets Hartnell/Simmons etc chip away at McDonough/Lundquvist etc...

schneidw


Sun Apr 13 2014 12:09 pm EST

YORK18: WRT the NASH trade, as you stated, the NYRs ridiculously added a 1st round pick... and that point alone, not the fact that Nash absorbed 2 if not 3 concussions since coming to NY, makes judging the trade too difficult after one playoff... lets see what happens this year and revisit the topic during the slow summer season... how cool is the NYRs are playing PHL in the 1st round.. so much better than WAS.. man, was I ever getting sick of that matchup....

schneidw


Sun Apr 13 2014 12:03 pm EST

On Spector, various writers suggest that Mike Green, Brooks Orpik and Cody Franson all available this summer, plus Chris Stewart. Something to think about.

Messier11


Sun Apr 13 2014 11:32 am EST

1) I don't think were a mediocre team. 2) I think that until recently we've had mediocre coaching. 3) Perhaps we'd be better off without a few truly horrible deals involving picks, but what team doesn't have one of those? 4) we've obviously done well enough through UFAs, college signings, deals, and the drafting that we have done. 5) we may not be a championship team, but I wonder what we would have been without the injuries and the contract scenarios we've dealt with this season.

Messier11


Sun Apr 13 2014 11:06 am EST

stevie: My concern is endless mediocrity due to Sather trading picks over the past few years like a drunken sailor. You do that win you truly believe you can win now. I don't think this is a championship team - I can only assume Sather does. We'll see in the next few weeks who's correct....

RF4L


Sun Apr 13 2014 9:01 am EST

https://twitter.com/byndblueshirts/status/455318445727703040

puckyou


Sun Apr 13 2014 8:44 am EST

rf4l the nyr have plenty of 1st rd picks, just weren't all theirs originally......over the last 18 years since 1994, not all sather's , there are 18 or less better gms who have won it all.....If I'm veenyo genyo, carcillo gets the nod over fast against the philthadephia cryers.....if kid k can play then it becomes which 2 of carcillo, dorsett, d moore and fast...to sit.....diaz gets to keep falk company.....boyle plays.....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 13 2014 8:07 am EST

York: Doesn't the King's new deal, that kicks in July 1, have a NMC? That said, your point's a valid one. It might turn out to be the trading of Talbot. It behooves Sather not to sit on the Talbot resigning effort until the summer of 2015 or like you say, he'll likely bolt to a team where he'll get more icetime (if not a shot at the number 1 spot).

RF4L


Sun Apr 13 2014 8:04 am EST

stevie: I want the cup, not an endless string of PO finishes that result in relatively quick exits. Also, for 6 of those years, Sather wasn't trading away first rounders - he started that dangerous trade with last year's draft and now is risking going 3 straight years with no first rounder. Risky business indeed and this from a GM who's won nothing in nearly 25 years. It's been an incredible run for him - his strongest skill is his ability to snow the owner. I realize there are worse GMs but there are better ones without a doubt. And take a gander at the Aves for an example of how quickly things can turn around when a rebuild is done correctly. Battling for first overall and only going to get better - I'd take the foursome of Duchesne, O'Reilly, Landerskof and MacKinnon over the Rangers top 4 skaters in a NY minute (3rd overall, 2nd rounder, 2nd overall and 1st overall).

RF4L


Sun Apr 13 2014 7:45 am EST

I'll gladly say I was wrong about Pouls, I gave him one of his names and he certainly proved me wrong and as I have always said I'm more then happy that he did. I liked the idea of Brass, Zucc, Pouls from the start they just had a chemistry that you could see. The team struggled when they were broken up and are playing great again now that they are together. Sather needs to sign that line up.......................TALBOT this guy is proving his worth he actually has a harder job then Hank, he comes in after sitting for long stretches and still puts up great numbers it's easy to come in and play nightly, well not easy but my point is it's a lot harder to come in after not playing. Talbot has slowly become an extremely solid goaltender. While with the pack he often carried that team for long stretches and came in and stepped up in NY on short notice. Allaires influence is truly showing in his game and that's a good thing, but the question then becomes if he continues this play into next year do you try and move Hank? I don't think Tablot resigns here because he knows the starting job is just not going to happen here as long as Hank is here. What team is going to want Hank at his price? I know what he signed for here was considered a deal compared to what he would have gotten had he went the UFA route. The problem is he didn't go the UFA and when GMs are not falling all over themselves and bidding like drunken sailors they all of a sudden become cost conscious and this contract is too high, so the very same GMs that would have offered him 9 or 10 mil now think 8.5 is too much. It's historic no matter who the goalie is you will never get his worth in a trade ever so do you trade him knowing full well you will only get half his actual worth, probably have to eat some salary, and all to free up money to bring other players in and you will then have to get a back up for Talbot. That is a lot to think about and not easy...........................The playoffs, I look at the playoffs like a fight on paper you can win anything on paper but anything can happen once you step in the ring and that's why you play the games because anything can happen and I don't care about any match up, or this team is bigger, more physical etc. Like I said before the season started, and during the season, at the deadline we make the playoffs and we have as good a chance as anyone to win a cup, that's why the cup is not awarded for paper stats. I have no idea if they will win one round, two rounds, or no rounds, what I do know is I feel like they can beat any team in these playoffs if Hank is on his game, and if they play their game. Draft picks, prospects, it's all fun but what counts is what is happening now, not tomorrow, next week, next year, thinking about the future has gotten Edmonton no where, The Isles too for that matter, as well as many other teams, yes you need to build for the future but Sather seems to amass players that would be picks if they were in the draft via UFA like Zucc, Haggerty etc. I want to have a cup here as bad as anyone and I don't know if we will win one this year, or next year, but what I do know is I see a team for the first time not going into the playoffs looking tired and dragging ass, I see a team that also isn't trapped in their own zone playing defense all game which is very tiring as well I see a team that will force other teams to chase and get tired and I don't care who we face Boston, Pitt, Philly I feel we can beat every team in these playoffs in any given series if we are healthy. If Nash shows up this team can be a force.

York18


Sun Apr 13 2014 6:26 am EST

http://nypost.com/2014/04/12/lets-party-for-marty/

stevielegs


Sun Apr 13 2014 6:04 am EST

Poo deserved the treatment even veenyo gave it too him, and he had enough patience to get him to wake up.... Probably the French connection.... And a few kicks in the ass and head to get him out of the cesspool ... I remember posting a story about him that claimed he was a steal.... The sather clock has been right more than twice.... The picks are fairly meaningless as long as his team continues to make the playoffs.... He's a patchwork quilter hoping for a masterpiece ....if the nyr were one of the 14 than their would be something for his boss and fans to demand .... As RAYNGER would say ' it's the results not the methods'....... So RF4L if you were the gm and didn't make the playoffs yet had the picks not all bosses would stick with you...especially if it was 7 out if 8 years..... And waiting..::. My hope is he retires but be careful what you wish for..::there are plenty of gms worse than him....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 13 2014 12:34 am EST

That was a nice send off into retirement by the Oilers for Ryan Smyth ......Also, during the retirement press conference on Friday, a reporter asked Smyth why he would toss pucks out to the kids before each and every game and Smyth answered that he saw Nick Fotiu do it before the Flames games and that is what influenced him.

TradeStar28


Sat Apr 12 2014 11:50 pm EST

RF- Falk's an RFA and I think they qualify him. I don't think a 6th is so bad, given that Carcillo cost a 7th and Diaz a 5th, all pretty good pickups. Clowe, OTOH

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 11:34 pm EST

Some pretty sweet playoff match ups this season.....Columbus vs Pitt......The BJ's should tenderize the Ice Chickens a decent amount with a tough brand of hockey. I dunno if Columbus has what it takes to beat them in 7 games series but i wouldn't be shocked....Also, the Kings/Sharks series.....That is a dandy out of the gates.....And the Avs/Wild also.....Even TB/Montreal game will excite the palate when the Rangers are not playing.

TradeStar28


Sat Apr 12 2014 10:24 pm EST

Poo was being disparaged on here worse than Pyatt - his name, at one point, was a series of synonyms for...poo!

RF4L


Sat Apr 12 2014 10:22 pm EST

Mess: I've got zero complaint with Falk. My beef is giving up a 6th for a guy who plays once in the 2nd half and almost assuredly will resign elsewhere this summer. Yeah a 6th rarely amounts to much. But no 6th always amounts to nothing.

RF4L


Sat Apr 12 2014 10:15 pm EST

Just wondering if Pouliot would have been given a snowballs chance in hell if Torts was still in charge? How about the Brass line? LOL. Lets Go Rangers!!!!! It will be a long wait till Thursday!

NYStranger


Sat Apr 12 2014 9:31 pm EST

Pouliot is strong as a bull...When he plays physical and engaged he is a force....Hope we sign him and am pretty sure we will...

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 9:24 pm EST

Poo went from being mentioned in the same breath as Pyatt to being one of the more effective wingers.

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 9:14 pm EST

Pouliot probably in top 3 of most improved nyr... This year....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 12 2014 9:11 pm EST

Not impressed with Richards line tonight....Seemed they were pinned down every shift and Hagelin and Fast were turning it over....Fourth line good again...Aside from the final play I thought Diaz and Klein played well...Rangers had the edge in play....

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 9:07 pm EST

The laugh of the night was when Bourque tackled Fast and when play stopped the fans were booing the penalty call....Fear not it wasn't on the Frogs....It was a phantom call on Hagelin....CBC announcers call it a weak call....Well no shite....What a joke....

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 9:05 pm EST

RF- I was talking about the 3rd with the Nash deal, not the 6th with the Gabby deal. Besides, Falk looked pretty good tonight, has been a good sport all season.

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 9:02 pm EST

Newfie: IMO, it means the Prince will be back next year, at his $500,000 salary, backing up the King, who will be making 16 times that salary. What it means come October 2015 is altogether another question. In other words, valid pondering, but likely 1 year too premature.

RF4L


Sat Apr 12 2014 9:00 pm EST

Talbot can be a #1 goalie in this league. Hank has meant so much to this team over the past few seasons..........it was scary ! This guy Talbot is the first man to show that he can actually step in and do the job . I believe in him.................what does that mean for the future ??????????

Newfie_Ranger


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:59 pm EST

Yo PJ....I'm Canadian and I hate the Canadiens, so please, put away that ridiculously huge broom you have.

RF4L


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:59 pm EST

I guess Diaz wanted to get to the showers a few minutes early. Nice game except for the Rangers not getting enough screened shots on Price. Got to be able to do that come Thursday. Nice effort for a meaningless game. Nice to get a few depth players some playing time in case needed.

NYStranger


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:58 pm EST

So the puck is loose and the referee is looking at it and he blows the whistle to prevent the Rangers from scoring....Next faceoff a trip and a penalty shot and game is over....Fuck Montreal and the never ending bullshit that goes on when you play there...Enjoy your one playoff team Canada....Hope they go out in round one vs Bolts....

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:57 pm EST

Now that kinda sucks, but means nothing. It also means in his 2 games in Montreal, his GAA is .5!!!

RF4L


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:56 pm EST

Tough way for Talbot to lose this one, but still- we got a point against Montreal with our backup and without our top D pairing, top goal-scorer. Not too shabby.

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:49 pm EST

Pouilot doesn't miss open net and this one is over....Never even got a shot off....Great game by Talbot....

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:37 pm EST

stevie: Don't be shocked if Sather tries to trade one of his picks for a knee down the line.

RF4L


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:34 pm EST

A few too many kness being thrown with intent to injure by the only Canadian team to make the playoffs... The hab nots... Knots... Notz...nuts nit wits...guess sather feels better than 14 other gms....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:26 pm EST

Mess: It was a 6th rounder the Rangers got in the Gabbie trade and in the upcoming draft. No surprise, however, given Sather's apparent addiction to trading away picks, that selection is now property of the Wild. That pick fetched Justin Falk, a guy so crucial to the Rangers that he's playing his 2nd game for the team since Dec 29....

RF4L


Sat Apr 12 2014 7:14 pm EST

Looks like Center ice had it mislabeled on NHL network. Thanks for the feedback and great to see you posting again doublen.

NCRanger


Sat Apr 12 2014 7:05 pm EST

Amazing that DirectTV couldn't help when I called but I just staggered through the channels and found the game on NHL Network which still says Leafs & Sens....Good first period by the Rangers....

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:45 pm EST

Got it, thanks folks!

iggy


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:40 pm EST

Oh no!! Does this mean Dorsett will be afraid to try and hit someone! Yeah. Not likely.

Wildcard


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:40 pm EST

The game is on the NHL Network in the US outside of New York.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:40 pm EST

I guess its because its on NHL Network where it says Maple Leafs@Senators.

bdubya


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:39 pm EST

Blacked out for me too on DTV in Texas...not happy but I am too lazy to call right now.

iggy


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:34 pm EST

Why is the game blacked out on Center Ice and MSG?

bdubya


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:33 pm EST

Have to figure if they would have made the playoffs a few times during those 7 non playoff years in a row then they might have met the Flyers at least once. If Boston and Detroit meet , then it;'s the first time since 1957 for those 2 as playoff foes!

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:31 pm EST

Anyone having issues with the direct t. Feed for rangers broadcast? Keep getting the generic game over direct tv icon. Any ideas??? Thanks in advance

NCRanger


Sat Apr 12 2014 5:57 pm EST

How can AV scratch St Louis when he obviously needs the ice time to break out of this slump and raise his confidence?

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 12 2014 5:39 pm EST

Game 1 Thursday night at MSG....Time TBD

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 5:34 pm EST

Pens better hope Fleury is better than he was today or they may go out in round one....Oh and I wish someone would just splatter Hartnell already....Haven't seen a bigger coward since the Rat Linesman was scurrying around on the ice....

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 5:23 pm EST

Is this really the first time since 1997?? Time flies!

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 5:00 pm EST

Rangers/Flyers at MSG! Let's get it on! Been 17 years since we faced them in the playoffs. Can't wait!

jratelle19


Sat Apr 12 2014 4:41 pm EST

R47 Sorry but it was widely spoken about that the Rangers were one of the healthiest and toughest teams in the league and lost less man games to injury then every before under torts. Did they tire out by the finals? Yes, one has nothing to do with the other, they were not injured all the time as you seem to be claiming. Matter of fact we lost less man games under torts the year we went to the finals then we have under AV. I don't like Torts never did but I won't let that stop the facts from being facts.

York18


Sat Apr 12 2014 4:39 pm EST

excited to see how these D pairings will do tonight. Hope Falk plays like he hasn't seen ice in a few months.

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 4:36 pm EST

RJ 1) you're right, you can do whatever you want if you want to look stupid 2) I was trying to be nice, let me help you since you don't seem to have a clue about the Rangers team, that trade did not clear up space to have Kreider player because he was already on the team and playing, that was the year he came in during the playoffs and tore it up but hey don't let that stop your stupid idea. It didn't open up a spot for Pouliot because he didn't come here last season, another hole in your theory, Zucc? well again he's a winger not a center so didn't open up anything and during that process we lost FEdotenko who was a winger and played third line duty who Zucc did fill that spot for so another hole in your theory. That trade was not made to open up spots for anyone, matter of fact that trade forced the team into a second trade because it lacked the depth to fill the spots traded and also caused players to be played out of position, but you would know all this if you actually watched some rangers games the last few seasons which apparently you haven't.

York18


Sat Apr 12 2014 4:30 pm EST

Have to agree with York on the Nash trade....One can attempt to minimize the season's Dubi and Artie are having or bring other players not involved in the trade to justify their position but we were hosed on this one....JFC31...I had initially pointed out playing the BJ's could be good as Nash would be up for a series against them and Bob....This is actually sad to be honest....The guy is paid a fortune and should be up for any team we play....

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 4:24 pm EST

Fast has been playing RW...Thing that most surprises me about him is he finishes his checks with authority....He is far more physical than I thought he would be....

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 4:22 pm EST

Agree it would have been nice to see the Stepan line again tonight but maybe MSL has some minor injury....The line could sure use the work together....Plenty of time off as we open on Thursday....I would like a win tonight and a positive attitude going into the playoffs....

PJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 4:21 pm EST

mf: Yes, I think so (but I'm not sure!). WIll check it out closer tonight. Fast's speed to complement Hags has allowed the line to get in quick and apply pressure while BRich gets open. Fast is also an excellent defender and covers up well for Brich while Hags is deep and BRich looks to get the shot or goes to the corner to cycle. It'll be interesting to see what the line does over the next half dozen or more games....

Ranger47


Sat Apr 12 2014 4:04 pm EST

RJ.....actually an interesting way to look at the trade......and you're right you can look at it anyway you want to.

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 12 2014 3:49 pm EST

R47: Has HAGS been LW & FAST plying RW on that line? I'd like to see how that line performs with a Right handed LW & a Left handed RW..... Otherwise, I'm loving the speed which that line brings.... It's a totally different personality from the other's...... BRichards is probably feeling old trying to keep up, love it! :-)

mf


Sat Apr 12 2014 3:21 pm EST

"RJ you can't add krieder into the deal " ---- Wrong. #1. I can do whatever the hell I want to do. #2. The deal opened up a spot on the roster for Kreider...or pick someone else...Pouliott, Zuccarello. If the trade was not made then there is no other roster spot that is open. So, in trading 2-for1 you can't just compare the traded players, but have to consider who else the trade gave a chance to play.

RJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 3:07 pm EST

BTW - Not sure if anyone else has said this here, but I really like Fast with BRich and Hags. Seems like there is a bit of chemistry brewing there as well. And, if, that line could score a bit more it could also make a HUGE difference in our PO chances....

Ranger47


Sat Apr 12 2014 3:01 pm EST

York: I'm not telling you anything you don't already know; last year we made it to the playoffs, no summer camp, nobody in "Torts" boot-camp condition, and did Nash suffer a concussion during the short season? I think yes, do you hold a guy like STAAL to the same expectations? He was concussed... What I'm getting at is, I think we need to factor in a margin of leeway for the injuries NASH sustained.. I'm confident he has been working on becomming "less gun-shy" about going into traffic... I've looked for and spotted occassions when Staal displayed his own version of being gun-shy.... We also had a coaching change on top of considerable roster tutnover after the shortened season... I'd say a margin of time be granted all the players & coaches to acclimate.... so here we are, 2nd to the Penguista's and approaching the playoffs with the NASH line showing promise.... What's the problem? :->

mf


Sat Apr 12 2014 2:45 pm EST

York: We will need to see what happens to this team moving forward. I LOVED the physicality of the team we had that lost to the Devils in the POs. But it seems that style of play under Torts (who arguably had lost that team) led to too many injuries and caused us to wear down. We also were too unbalanced - look at how the 4th line of Ottawa and others dominated us. We now have a better defense and far more balance across our 4 lines using AVs system. We've had one of the best records in the NHL for the second half of the season and will be a dangerous opponent in the POs. If we can handle the physicality and get the Stephan line scoring consistently, there is no telling where we could end up when all is said and done. Moreover, I think that we will be better positioned to complement this team with decisions made in the offseason for an even better team next year. Again, we'll have to see what transpires in the POs this year before we will know for sure where we stand and what needs to be done moving forward.

Ranger47


Sat Apr 12 2014 2:34 pm EST

R47 what has this team done since trading for Nash? Before the deal we were a team that had won at least a playoff round went to the conference finals and at before the trade we were one of the better teams in te league and one of the toughest. What have we done since?

York18


Sat Apr 12 2014 2:28 pm EST

R47: I agree with you, constructed as we were 2-3 years ago, I dont believe we would have gone any further than we did.. To the surprise of just about everyone here, we went further than we had ever anticipated... Big "IF," this MSL / STEPAN / NASH line catches fire for the Playoffs, it should get pretty darn exciting.....

mf


Sat Apr 12 2014 1:59 pm EST

something else to consider: We got a 2013 3rd rounder in the Nash deal. We drafted Buchnevich at No. 75 with that pick.

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 1:52 pm EST

RJ: Missed the Gaborik to LA trade. What did Columbus get for him? MF: I agree with your assessment - I think that both teams were winners in terms of what they swapped versus what they had. We have a much better chance of making some noise in the POs now, and I'm not sure we could have made the POs as we were constructed before the trades...

Ranger47


Sat Apr 12 2014 1:52 pm EST

RJ you can't add krieder into the deal hehad nothing to do with the deal further more both players were centers which makes your point even less valid..........mF again these deals were made almost a year apart you can not make them one deal to make yourself feel better. I like the gabby deal save for getting moore instead of a first rounder back. We lost the nash trade we got baggage not the truck we had hoped for. He's paid like a superstar I can see why cally wanted so much nash will score maybe 10 more goals but that's it. Cally brings more this team much like the bjs prior to trading nash will go no where depending on him.

York18


Sat Apr 12 2014 1:51 pm EST

NM, Brooks is reporting that Haggerty is no longer practicing with the Rangers, but with their taxi squad. I change to Carcillo.

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 1:49 pm EST

If Girardi and MSL are sitting, I imagine that Falk is in, as is either Carcillo or Haggerty. Ill bet Haggerty.

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 1:30 pm EST

Could anyone here make a case that the Nash Trade set the table for the Gabby Trade? The bottom line is that the two teams, conducted two trades. Could it be that both teams came out winners? ...... I'd rather have Nash, Brassard, Dorsett, J.Moore & a 6th (I believe) than Gabby, Anisimov, Dubinski, Erixson, & our 1st, and there may be plenty of fans on both sides which feel the same way...... We have one of the best 4th lines in the league with DORSETT, BOYLE, D.MOORE...... Any problems with BRASSARD centering MZA & POULIOT? ...... J.MOORE (York18's buddy) made trading MDZ a possibility for KEVIN KLEIN who been a solidifying presence and RHS desired by the coaches & fans alike. NASH vs Gabby... Gabby's playing in L.A., dont know what CBJ got for him, NASH on the other hand in NOT the PF I was hoping for, came to learn that was never his game... Nash has suffered a couple of head injuries here in NY.. Nash never found chemistry with BRichards, "HOWEVER," there are signs & stats which show that Nash, Stepan,MSL are starting to develop chemistry.... MSL 4 assists in the last 2 games. Nash buries a blister of a one-timer from a pass right into NASH's wheelhouse from MSL... Stepan scored two games ago right in close with a perfect feed from MSL.... Both Nash & MSL have played the Left & Right Wings on different shifts which I believe creates different looks that the defensemen have to adjust to... SO, if you have a defenseman who can line up better against a guy like MSL than NASH, and our two guys switch wings, you create a situation where we exploit the weaker defensive coverage or we force their D to think about switching sides.... In any event, this is a potentially dangerous line and trhe opposition has to deal with it..... We are as 4 lines deep as we were the year before the lockout, we have a Power Play instead of a "man advantage situation, and our offense is scoring substantially better.. (I have not calculated our goals for average, I'm a D guy first) .... I think that we've only given up approx 10 more goals this season with one game remaining, than the year we went to the Eastern Finals, and we've had a lot less games lost to injury by not throwing the body in front of every puck..... On a side note, did anyone listen to ULF Samuulson after the AV interview? Ulfie deserves a lot of credit... When he came here, he stated almost verbatum, that he wanted us blocking shots, "But Not Screening Hanks Ability to see the shot being taken." This theoretically enables Hank to home in on the puck sooner... We started off like a sieve defensively, but managed to climb to 4th in the league in fewest goals allowed at 192 with one game remaining.... Kudo's to Ulfie, The King, The Prince, and the Rangers! .... Here's to the Playoff's ! :->

mf


Sat Apr 12 2014 1:21 pm EST

47? - You do know that Gaborik was traded to LA don't you?

RJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 12:47 pm EST

http://www.capgeek.com/lightning/

mf


Sat Apr 12 2014 12:24 pm EST

If that incident allows Tampa to get out of Malone's contract under some sort or morality clause, it could be the key to their ability to re-sign Callahan and us getting their 2015 2nd rounder

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 12:08 pm EST

Ranger47: I believe we came out on top with the Gabby deal, but they were two separate transaction and we lost the Nash trade from my perspective.

gene_carr


Sat Apr 12 2014 11:50 am EST

I would have ALSO sat Staal and Zucc at a minimum for tonight's game. If one of them get hurt we will sure be second guessing the decision to play them. BTW, I would not have sat MSL since his line could use another chemistry-building game before the POs. But, perhaps, at his age he simply needed a maintenance day (or perhaps a family day for personal reasons).

Ranger47


Sat Apr 12 2014 11:46 am EST

If I have all the players correct, it is interesting to compare the combined Nash and Gaborick deals to see how both clubs fared as trading partners. I think it comes out Nash, Brassard, John Moore and Dorsett to us and Gaborik, Dubi, Anisimov,Tim Erikson and a pick to them - right? With Gaborik injured and possibly not resigning with the BJs, the combined trade looks about even to me. What do others think? Perhaps I missed another pick or two there which changes the value in the BJs favor. But, I do have to say, with the BJs being stuck between a rock and a hard place when they had to trade Nash it seems like we could have done better....JMHO

Ranger47


Sat Apr 12 2014 11:43 am EST

WOW!!!!!!! Tampa's Ryan Malone got busted last night. A...DWI and bag of Coke.

rangerlou


Sat Apr 12 2014 11:39 am EST

Zip: looks like Girardi, McD, MSL, all sitting this one out

Messier11


Sat Apr 12 2014 11:37 am EST

New York Rangers ✔ @NYRangers "I feel ready to play, I am ready to go, but you have to respect the coach's decision..I'll be ready when the playoffs start"- @RMcDonagh2750

rangerlou


Sat Apr 12 2014 9:35 am EST

I agree with what Ilya posted yesterday...Columbus would be our best opponent because it would bring out the best in Nash.....and hopefully he will carry that intensity throughout all of the playoff rounds. If he can find that next level and maintain it, our odds would really improve. Imagine Nash and St. Louis both finding their grooves at the same time....WOW!

JFC31


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:55 am EST

RF4L... It's pro-rated for the amount of time he's actually been with the club. It was one of his conditions for signing with a team (which we were willing to oblige). With our lack of picks the next couple of years, hopefully it woks out.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:48 am EST

Rhet: If I'm reading your post correctly, it means Haggerty will make $925,000 this year for sitting around with the Rangers for like 10 games. Or it is pro-rated?

RF4L


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:24 am EST

The Rangers recently signed Ryan Haggerty of RPI and he has been with the Rangers since but has yet to play in a game. Haggerty is with the team now and burning off the first year of his three-year entry level deal that has a cap hit of $925,000. The Rangers beat out 11 other teams for Haggerty, who is a life long Ranger fan. Haggerty can be sent to the AHL next season and would have a salary of $70,000. He also has a signing bonus each year of $92,500 and performance bonuses up to $425,000 that could raise his cap hit to $1.208 million. Craig Custance spoke with a scout who says Haggerty is a "goal scorer" and can really shoot the puck. The scout said that Haggerty didn't blossom in his role with the USA program, before going to RPI, and that he "tears it up on the PP" firing shots from the weak side. He is in need of playing with someone who can distribute the puck (ESPN Insider).

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:20 am EST

RJ: LOL, adding Kreider there is really stretching to try to put a positive spin on that deal. ;^)

RF4L


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:18 am EST

Had a couple of seconds during work and figured I'd chime in on the Nash trade. Since both Dubi and Artie were starters trading them for Nash opened up another roster spot, which they filled with Kreider. So, if you measure the trade as Dubi, Artie and the pick for Nash and Kreider then it's a lot closer to even. The pick is what tips it slightly in favor of the Blue Jackets though.

RJ


Sat Apr 12 2014 8:14 am EST

Agreed that CBJ won the Nash trade. Even if you took out the first rounder, that might be the case, especially if Erixon finally becomes a regular NHLer (which remains the prediction). Nash for me, is the one of the biggest recent disappointments. Obviously, the talent is there, but the will/fire/call it what you want, isn't, at least not with any consistency and nothing close to matching the raw skills. On other hand, it's equally clear to me that Sather won the Gabbie deal.

RF4L


Sat Apr 12 2014 7:00 am EST

York: Have to drop my 2 cents in here. Since the trade I have loosely kept up with the CBJ's and I have to admit the Jackets came out the winner in that deal (because of the pick). Nash is a very good player but he is not the straw that stirs the drink so to speak. Anisimov has been very good and Dubinsky though not their best player is the straw that stirs that team. My guess is that both players would be rated higher than they were with us around the league at this time.

gene_carr


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:45 am EST

York Nash has 7 or 9 winning goals this season, but he is not the player they were supposed to get.... Even sans the hype... Those head shots have had an effect.. He better lead with Richie and msl in the playoffs who he can be the next gartner... Traded .:.: and sather did overpay...as he did for msl... He doesn't win every trade... Just the Mac d one and the contract he got him to resign....guess the nyr have to win the Cup to get the genius to retire....Mfred see you in the cannon of heroes....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:37 am EST

The debbies should give Chico a gold rug with two little horns implanted in it....mf you can drive dickaletti to newark ....he will blow the shofar....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 12 2014 6:34 am EST

SCHNEID, couldn't disagree more, you're making poor excuses Dubinsky is everything this team lacks and everyone here clamors for a physical in your face player who uses his body can score some goals, drops the gloves to protect his team mates, and is a leader, Ani is scoring at about the same pace as Nash is give or take a few goals and we gave up a first rounder in the deal which you so ignored. As for Nash being clutch that was a joke correct? That guy has one big goal in how long and he's clutch? That's the one thing he isn't is clutch and everyone is afraid of the matchups come playoffs meanwhile Dubi is exactly the kind of player this this team needs come the playoffs. Bringing up the Gabby trade has nothing to do with the Nash trade at all so how about we stick to the subject at hand? We will see just how clutch Nash is come the playoffs will he disappear again like last year and then claim he had a good playoffs? we will see how this deal pans out come the playoffs if he has another disappearing act we absolutely lost that deal. One other thing is you asked about clutch goals it seems that with the arrival of Dubi and Ani the BJs are a better team with them then they were with Nash are we a better team without them and with Nash? So far the answer to that is no.

York18


Sat Apr 12 2014 5:41 am EST

That would be so great if Michiletti went to the Devils or for that matter the NHL Network....just anywhere but back to us....

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 11 2014 11:02 pm EST

Mf the movie? ....Or Chico and the man? ... You're right just should have said Chico and the dickaletti ...

stevielegs


Fri Apr 11 2014 10:56 pm EST

sLegs: That's Despicable

mf


Fri Apr 11 2014 10:25 pm EST

http://www.nhlplayoffsbracket.com/2014/index.php

stevielegs


Fri Apr 11 2014 10:21 pm EST

Dallas is in . Where are the brackets?... Chico retires take the woman dickaletti with you...

stevielegs


Fri Apr 11 2014 10:01 pm EST

TBL beat CBJ, Washington won tonight beating the Blackheads 4-0, Dallas is ahead of the Blues 3-0 late in the 3rd, this last PO spot is getting interesting.... Is it official yet who we're matching up against 1st round?

mf


Fri Apr 11 2014 9:34 pm EST

Rangers against Filthy....I am gonna need the Xanax scrip renewed

TradeStar28


Fri Apr 11 2014 9:24 pm EST

If we indeed face CBJ I hope it will motivate Nash and he'll try to prove to everyone that we won the trade and that he was the best player in a deal and hopefully he will have big series !!!

ilya


Fri Apr 11 2014 9:17 pm EST

YORK- Too early to say that CLB won the Nash trade... at this point, it looks to me like an even trade... dumped Dubinksy contract, Erixon looks like career AHLer... can't judge Nash after one year... don't recall Anisimov scoring a clutch game winner like Nash blasted last night to give NYRs home ice advantage... If you want lopsided trade... Brassard deal was a steal for NYRs...

schneidw


Fri Apr 11 2014 9:12 pm EST

My parents moved there around 1973.

Messier11


Fri Apr 11 2014 9:09 pm EST

I was born in Bridgeton and we went to St. Charles pretty often. Spent much of my youth in Creve Coeur and some family still live there. My high school had their hockey practices at that rink and I worked summers there. Lived in U. City and South City during college and just before I moved here. I also worked the rinks in Webster Groves and Chesterfield.

Messier11


Fri Apr 11 2014 8:28 pm EST

Mess....I lived in St Charles County....More specifically St Peter's....I was transferred there in 1989 from New Jersey....Also lived there for a few years as a kid when my Dad was transferred there in 1967....Lived in University City and Creve Coeur.....Went to Blues games when Noel Picard and the Plager brothers provided the muscle and guys like Berenson, Ecclestone, Keenan, Sabourin, Ron Shock and Terry Crisp played...Also was able to see Plante and Hall in goal and the great Dan Kelly announced games on KMOX with Gus Kyle....I will tell you the noise in the Arena back then was every bit as loud as the Garden ever has been....Oh and I also saw a young JD in net....

PJ


Fri Apr 11 2014 8:10 pm EST

said it before I'll say it again, we lost the Nash trade, we gave up depth, leadership, character, toughness, grit and we obviously lost a first round pick as well. Nash better have a big playoffs because a repeat of last year is unacceptable.

York18


Fri Apr 11 2014 7:37 pm EST

I'll take the JACKETS instead of the Flyers.......did I mention that Anisimov has 22 Goals.....

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 11 2014 5:47 pm EST

PJ- Im biased, but having spent significant time both here and there, I think its a pretty great city. What neighborhood did you guys live in?

Messier11


Fri Apr 11 2014 5:14 pm EST

CLB or PHL: whom is the better matchup?

schneidw


Fri Apr 11 2014 4:42 pm EST

excuse me. crap is a stretch

Messier11


Fri Apr 11 2014 4:42 pm EST

They have dropped a few. Shitty is a stretch.

Messier11


Fri Apr 11 2014 4:36 pm EST

They are playing like crap lately....Certainly a capable team so we shall see....I basically raised my family in St Louis and both my son and daughter still live there....Grandkids and son in law are Blues fanataics....

PJ


Fri Apr 11 2014 4:31 pm EST

wouldn't count them out yet. Oshie, Sobotka, Roy and Morrow are all listed day-to-day, Backes, Tarasenko thought to return by first round. Still have their amazingly deep D squad healthy.

Messier11


Fri Apr 11 2014 4:30 pm EST

that's why they have the blues.....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 11 2014 4:26 pm EST

So the Blues will probably not last long in the playoffs once again...A shame for the fans....Every year is their year until something goes wrong....

PJ


Fri Apr 11 2014 4:21 pm EST

In addition to the previously mentioned Tarasenko, Oshie, Backes, Morrow, also missing Sobotka, Roy. Two full forward lines.

Messier11


Fri Apr 11 2014 4:16 pm EST

Blues have recalled prospect Ty Rattie, AHL lifer Keith Aucoin, and grinder Adam Cracknell. Ill bet they wish they had Phil McRae (opted to play this season in the Super-Liga instead of the AHL) about now.

Messier11


Fri Apr 11 2014 4:14 pm EST

The Pens don't want to play the Flyers in the first round....The Flyers drive them crazy....

PJ


Fri Apr 11 2014 3:00 pm EST

I'd like to see the Rangers rest Henrik, Girardi, Staal and McD and the Brassard line on Saturday.....Let the AHL Fs and our 8 and 9th D get some playing time in case they are needed later on in the POs.

Ranger47


Fri Apr 11 2014 2:57 pm EST

mf: While the BJs might be more physical against Pitt, Pitt-Flyers has been, and would be, a blood bath. Plus, BJs lack the PO experience which the Flyers have - and therefore the Flyer series would probably go to more (punishing) games.

Ranger47


Fri Apr 11 2014 2:45 pm EST

mf- not sure. perhaps the state rivalry could mean more, but Columbus is a more-hitting team

Messier11


Fri Apr 11 2014 2:39 pm EST

M11: are you saying Philly will play Pitt harder than CBJ ?

mf


Fri Apr 11 2014 2:31 pm EST

rf73 wonder if bazookerella wants to trade awards with mac d .....guess the new captain has been picked.....bring up ahl guys for Saturday....rest whoever wants or needs it.......veenyo take the night off, go visit the family......play the prince for sure.....was kid k out there after the game signing his hate to call it ' jersey'......

stevielegs


Fri Apr 11 2014 2:26 pm EST

Debbies vs fishstinks battle for Hudson river swimming rights......Rupp gets 4 game suspension ....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 11 2014 2:08 pm EST

More than us having the easier opponent, I want Pittsburgh to have the opponent most likely to injure as many of their top players as possible

Messier11


Fri Apr 11 2014 2:06 pm EST

I Cannot stop laughing. Tonight at the Rock. NJ Devils vs NY Islanders ....Is Fireworks Night. I hope the it's an indoor show and blow that place to smithereens,

rangerlou


Fri Apr 11 2014 1:47 pm EST

Kind of torn between the Flyers and BJ's.....The goaltending edge has me leaning toward playing the Flyers but the BJ's don't have the firepower the Flyers can throw at you....Also, I don't believe we would have a problem getting Nash up for a series against Bob.....Nice to be able to watch hockey this weekend stress free....

PJ


Fri Apr 11 2014 1:27 pm EST

Let's-go-Jack-ets! (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap). I want NO part of the Flyers. I'd agree we have an edge in nets if Hank wasn't somewhat of a PO mediocrity. Plus I hate the Flyers almost as much as the NJD. Ed Snider makes me wanna puke, on multiple levels, not all of them hockey-related. Also ... nice to see that POS Rupp KO a talented player. The NHL needs more fake tough guys who wear snowshoes out there and fewer Oshies, after all.

Nick


Fri Apr 11 2014 11:43 am EST

Hospo: Blues also lost Morrow, foot injury, saw that I twitter this morning.

Wildcard


Fri Apr 11 2014 11:29 am EST

It was a clean sweep as far as awards go for Rangers defenseman Ryan McDonagh as it was announced Friday morning that McDonagh has been selected as the team's Most Valuable Player and is also the winner of the coveted Players Player Award for the 2013-2014 season. He becomes the first Blueshirt since Brian Leetch in 2002-2003 to win both awards in the same season.

RF73


Fri Apr 11 2014 11:28 am EST

Ranger47 - Not so sure about that, The BJs play an aggressive physical game almost always, I think even moreso than the Flyers... who resort to it, especially dirty shit, when things aren't going well....By that time, it's often too late...

Hospo


Fri Apr 11 2014 11:25 am EST

WILD - Sucks for them...but good for Rangers..I think UMBEREGER just got hurt to0..And then there's the St. Louis Blues cruising along and in a span of a week lose David Backes Maybe back for 1st round) and , last night, a worthless piece of shit like Mike Rupp, takes out TJ Oshie...Sets up a more heated and challenging POSSIBLE series between Minn and St. Louis.......Injuries can change a lot of things as we know with MCD....

Hospo


Fri Apr 11 2014 11:23 am EST

The best matchup may be us vs the BJs, Philly vs Pitt and Detroit vs Boston if we want to see a Round 2 without Pitt or Boston.I also think we would be less banged up against the BJs than the Flyers (the latter who you know would be dirty as hell against us). JMHO.

Ranger47


Fri Apr 11 2014 11:07 am EST

Via twitter. Jackets Horton has had surgery to relate an abdominal injury....out 6 weeks.

Wildcard


Fri Apr 11 2014 10:53 am EST

I'd rather face Philthy in the 1st round...

mf


Fri Apr 11 2014 9:00 am EST

Kis Dolan is Cablevision alias optimum ...

stevielegs


Fri Apr 11 2014 8:59 am EST

Rf4l I'd rather have tgo messier Leetch richter and graves throw in duguay and Dave Maloney , running the nyr than the genius..:even if that means veenyo has to go . As long as they don't bring back the dog whisperer....nor his shadow....and they fire dickaletti ....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 11 2014 8:57 am EST

a lot of talk about comcast looking to purchase Time Warner Cable. How would that effect the Rangers. does that mean Jimmy dolan out? does that mean Snyder would own both the rangers and flyers?

KIS


Fri Apr 11 2014 8:53 am EST

Ola my wish is for philthadelphia Cryers to play the Pitts playpens and they kill each other in the first round for 7 games....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 11 2014 7:11 am EST

Oh and Shannon also said that Gretzky is very eager to get back into hockey....what a way to do that: President and GM of the New York Rangers. Would he allow himself to be ruled by the rich owner's paranoid assholic son?

RF4L


Fri Apr 11 2014 7:09 am EST

How's this for a tidbit boys and girls: The rumours out of TO the past few days circled around one of two possibilities for the Leafs' head of hockey operations: Shanahan and Gretzky. The story on the latter, however, was that he doesn't want to live in TO - he likes the warm of the American southwest. Stronger than that, Janet Gretzky doesn't want to move northeast. John Shannon, a hockey insider up here, stated emphatically that Janet told Wayne she is open to moving to 1 of 2 cities: Toronto or New York. Mmmm....could Sather retire and be replaced by Wayne this off-season?

RF4L


Fri Apr 11 2014 5:54 am EST

stevie- Yeah, that is the danger with playing Philly. But like, who is going to make all that much trouble for us? Rinaldo, Stewert and Hartnell? Looking at our games against them the last years, that has not been a issue.

Ola


Fri Apr 11 2014 5:53 am EST

Agreed. Like, you never know. A few months ago my dream match-ups were Detroit vs Boston (with healthy Dats and Z) + Pitt vs Philly. But Philly has been somewhat weak. When they have beaten Pittsburgh, its been through getting Pittsburgh of their game. This year they have been pretty meh. Columbus will play you real hard for 60 minutes night after night.

Ola


Fri Apr 11 2014 5:16 am EST

I'd rather play the Flyers, too. I think that not only do we match up a little better, but think about which goalie you would rather face, Bobrovsky or Mason?

jratelle19


Thu Apr 10 2014 9:32 pm EST

MF - gotta love it..If the D stays steady, the team has a chance against anybody.......So, it's looking like the Rangers with home ice against either the FLyers or BJs? One long term rivalary and the other with players on both teams having a lot of incentives to beat their former team..... Both teams will give the Rangers a physical series...I'd rather play the Flyers...they don't impress me...I actually think the BJs are a more physical team, just not as dirty.....

Hospo


Thu Apr 10 2014 9:27 pm EST

Islanders blank Le Hab's 2 - 0

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 9:24 pm EST

HOS-POE.....Our GAA's are down to 2.37 p/g...... Lowest of the season! :->)

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 9:21 pm EST

Stevie.... Nahhh.... I want the Flyers.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 9:21 pm EST

Tonights two points have Lundquists name all over them..... Pouliot has steadily become one of my favorite Rangers this year.... Nice pass from MSL right into NASH's wheelhouse for the game winner.. 4th helper by MSL in two nights.. These two can play either wing, if this line gets hot we could, well, uh, ......... well, who knows? .... Like this kid FAST, ..... IMO, our defense needs to tighten up in our own zone....

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 9:19 pm EST

Hope it's Columbus in 1st round ... The nhl will let the Cryers get away with their crap....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 10 2014 9:16 pm EST

Brian Boyle on the Flyers.... "It's a pretty good rivalry,"..... "because we hate each other."

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 9:05 pm EST

Second place is ours!

jratelle19


Thu Apr 10 2014 9:04 pm EST

Thank you Tampa! Screw you Flyers!!!

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:53 pm EST

Stamkos with the PP goal! 4-2 TB

jratelle19


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:52 pm EST

C'mon Cally! Score on this PP.

jratelle19


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:50 pm EST

Couturier scores. 3-2 bolts

jratelle19


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:48 pm EST

PHILLY JUST SCORED. 3-2

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:41 pm EST

We won...All teams have games like this....Our top players took over and scored at the end after a couple of huge penalty kills....Like it should be....Go Bolts!!

PJ


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:40 pm EST

Bolts up 3-1 over Philly. GO TAMPA GO!!!!

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:37 pm EST

Lightning are still up 2-1.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:35 pm EST

HUGE 2 points. Who cares how we got there:)

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:35 pm EST

huge goal. The kind we should be able to count on every game. That being said, sheesh. 2-1 to Buffalo.

Messier11


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:24 pm EST

How hard is it to make saves on zero shots on goal? LOL.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:23 pm EST

Well we are trying hard to give this one away.....Can't take a penalty there....

PJ


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:20 pm EST

Mess... Is he? or are we just making him look that good? We do have a habit of doing that :)

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:19 pm EST

he's playing really well.

Messier11


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:55 pm EST

What's unreal? Buffalo always gives us fits. It doesn't matter how bad they are. Just one of those rivalries. Like the Yankees and Seattle.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:43 pm EST

unreal. Ive been high on Hackett in the past, thought we should've made a push for him last season before Biron/Talbot transpired. But this is unreal.

Messier11


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:33 pm EST

The Ref's certainly giving the Rangers plenty of chances.. Rangers 4 PP, Buffalo 0....

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:29 pm EST

As per the Nose, Shamalama-ding dong going to Toronto, Hi-O-silver....

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:27 pm EST

Rangers suck, Micheletti sucks, the Garden fans suck, soup sucks, vacuums suck, sink-holes suck, this sucks

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:21 pm EST

M11: Blues need to beat Minny tonight....

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:20 pm EST

Girardi just wiped out behind the Rangers net same place Dorsett went down in the 1st.... what's with the ice?

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:20 pm EST

St. Louis missing the net again....Have to have that one Marty....Nothing easy with this team....Especially at home....Have we had one rebound shot?.....

PJ


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:19 pm EST

Rhet, yes.. Was very impressed... Glad he's a Ranger, wish Sather structured the compensation differently pickwise.....

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:07 pm EST

I guess Tarasenko is still out, and now Backes day to day?

Messier11


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:06 pm EST

Stepan needs to step it up.

nyfans


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:06 pm EST

TSN saying that Shanny is all but locked up by Toronto

Messier11


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:05 pm EST

dropped a few. three points out of first. Not sure why, didn't watch the games but did see those scores.

Messier11


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:05 pm EST

MF... Did you watch the last NYR game? I thought MSL was pretty terrific in that game. If he continues to play like that I'll be pretty happy.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 6:54 pm EST

TBL leads Philthy 1-0 halfway thru the 1st......

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 6:52 pm EST

Pick it up in the second and all is good....Get a little more physical and get the crowd onto it....

PJ


Thu Apr 10 2014 6:49 pm EST

Mess11: St.Louis have you singing some end of season Blues? WTF is with them? I was hoping they'd place first overall in the league.....

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 6:48 pm EST

Except for Lundquist, the Rangers 1st period effort sucked.. Certainly not showing any desperation heading into the playoffs... Need a better effort the next two quarters...

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 6:38 pm EST

Games like this against none playoff teams scare the crap out of me because your team isn't sharp feeling the game is a walk in the park, to me those games are dangerous !

ilya


Thu Apr 10 2014 5:55 pm EST

wow. Loved Shanny as a player. don't know anything about how he'd be as a GM. risky. Assistant first?

Messier11


Thu Apr 10 2014 5:51 pm EST

Former NY Ranger Nick Kypreos of Sportsnet sent out this tweet "Could Rangers situation regarding Sather's future be delaying Brendan Shanahan's decision to accept Leafs offer?" Shanahan is reportedly the top choice of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment President Tim Leiweke to assume the role of President of Hockey Operations with the Maple Leafs. Nick Kypreos said on Connected: "There seems to be a bit of a delay and some people suggest that Shanahan is just doing his due diligence and not just for him and his family. He is settled nicely in NYC. Perhaps he takes a step back and weighs all of his options. I don't put much stock into the NYR angle but I do believe that there are a lot of people, including Shanahan, with a curiosity of where Glen Sather's future is. Is he going to leave, will he step back, relinquish some of the power he has in NY. i wouldn't put it past Shanahan to at least inquire if there is a possibility. Does he sign with Toronto to find out two months later that Sather is retiring? I think he just wants to make sure the Leafs are his best option and I have no doubt that he will end up with the Toronto Maple Leafs. Darren Dreger said on TSN Drive, "the sense I was given was that it will be Toronto or he will stay with the NHL office."

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 10 2014 4:55 pm EST

Talbot will play Saturday if we win tonight....We need to score and score often tonight....

PJ


Thu Apr 10 2014 4:51 pm EST

Also if we don't absolutely destroy Buffalo, we will look pretty weak as a team. Id still start Talbot and play Staal, Girardi <20:00. Let Diaz, Moore, Klein, Stralman get the minutes.

Messier11


Thu Apr 10 2014 4:48 pm EST

Actually I believe a win tonight is a must....We have to get a lead....Can't count on continually coming back in these games.....Flyers will lose one of their games in my opinion....We get home ice and stay out of the wildcard race with a win tonight...

PJ


Thu Apr 10 2014 4:44 pm EST

one third of the nine players suing the league are former Rangers http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=448926

Messier11


Thu Apr 10 2014 4:35 pm EST

Mclrath does not skate even as fast as girardi I wish he did!!!

vcp1994


Thu Apr 10 2014 4:31 pm EST

Wild: Sounds like you're pining for ROZSIVAL. ;-) I hope this Frenchman of a Coach affords McIlrath some time and allows him to play to his strenghts, which INCLUDES kicking some ass on occassion..

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 2:42 pm EST

Our PO position remains quite uncertain as we sit with 93 points, especially with Saturday night in Montreal almost assuredly being a loss thanks to the officiating. A win tonight would prevent us for dropping to a wild card spot if the BJs and Flyers sweep. Good chance the BJs will sweep against Bishop-less TB tomorrow night and FLA on Saturday putting them at 95 points. The Flyers (with a game on hand over us) have TB tonight, Pitt (who they always play well against) on Saturday and Carolina on Sunday. So we can reasonably expect at least 4 points putting them at 95+ points. SO...Winning tonight against Buff would assure us the 95 point tie-breaker over the BJs (though still we might not get home advantage over the Flyers who if the get 5 points in the last 3 games would pass us into 2nd place in the Division). In the worst case scenario if we get 2 losses against Buff and Montreal, it could mean we drop to 7th to face Pitt in the 1st Round, or worse - to 8th against the Bruins - if Detroit can get 3 points out of their last 2 games against Carolina and St Louis. So a win tonight could be REALLY important!

Ranger47


Thu Apr 10 2014 2:25 pm EST

Does anyone know when Devils PO tickets go on sale? :) (Sweet!)

Ranger47


Thu Apr 10 2014 2:23 pm EST

vcp: McIlrath isn't actually THAT slow....and he looks less slow due to good positioning....your wildly saying things that are just not even near the truth I think. I think he skates about as well as Giradi...I don't think AV is afraid of a guy who skates like Giradi or even a little slower.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 10 2014 1:42 pm EST

Dylan Maclrath will never play for AV. You heard it here first. He is simply too slow. He will most likely not play for the Rangers unless he takes some serious power skating over the summer. In order to play for AV on defense you need to be able to skate.

vcp1994


Thu Apr 10 2014 1:27 pm EST

Bob ain't no nob....

RF4L


Thu Apr 10 2014 12:59 pm EST

Ok folks....I found Bob.......He is hanging out with the Captain.......at the 48 second mark...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bjL8d1JOQfo

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 10 2014 12:45 pm EST

Now we just need Bob to return.....What about Bob?

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 10 2014 12:43 pm EST

FAST, is a RHS, Hallelujah

mf


Thu Apr 10 2014 12:22 pm EST

The only thing asham is getting called up to is the local beer league. He's done

Messier11


Thu Apr 10 2014 11:19 am EST

CoMark: You raise a valid argument with the Talbot promotion, although I would counter that it's another inexplicable gap that Sather has created (zero goalie depth). I'll also accept the argument that they are so young, but there is serious value to having a team go deep in the POs when that team contains possible future NHLers. In other words, IMO a preferred model for the main farm team is to have a mixture of AHL lifers and potential future NHLers with the former helping teach (by example as much as anything else) how to be a pro and how to win as a pro. There are a bunch of youngish players down there who'll never be anything more the minor leaguers so why not replace a few with more veteran guys who can actually make a difference? All that said, I'd rather have what the Rangers have down there vs a team of all veterans. That's something that doesn't make any sense IMO. It's a balancing act, in other words, when done correctly. Finally, if say 3 or 4 of the Pack regulars from this year end up being NHLers that's nothing to scoff at. One could argue one is already here (Talbot), with the hopes that Fast is right behind him (ie will be a regular next year) and of course, the great BIG hope, McI.

RF4L


Thu Apr 10 2014 10:30 am EST

CoMark: Agreed on the Pack, the Rangers have all but said that its a developmental team and winning is not the primary concern. And as you pointed out, Talbot was yanked out much earlier than they had though...I imagine if he was starting down there they would have 7-10 more points, Goal tending was a issue in quite a few of their losing streaks if I read the reports properly. As for your list of call-ups, that sounds about right, and I image unless they really dislike a guy, if he has NHL games under his belt, they will keep them around. Never a bad thing to have the depth, and never a bad thing to have guys with some NHL knowledge to practice against. The best part is that a lot of those guys on the Pack are good at the PK, so having them up against the PP units in practice can be a big help.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 10 2014 10:25 am EST

RF4L: I agree that it would be nice to have it all locked up tonight. With a Rangers win and a Flyers regulation loss the Rangers clinch 2nd in the division. If that was to happen, On saturday I would dress Carcillo and rest a forward, whoever the coaches feel needs the extra day off, either a bumbs and bruises guy or an older guy, rest hank and start Talbot and Dress Falk and rest Giradi. hell if you can call up a player or two (not sure if they have the room) bring up Allen or McIlrath to play on D in place of Stralman or Staal to rest them, Call up Lindberg or someone for a chance to play in an NHL game and rest a second forward....no point is risking injury in a game that does nothing to the standings. That's my hope...probably wont come to be...but I can always hope.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 10 2014 10:15 am EST

RF- I think I'll give Sather a pass this year for a couple of reasons. I think they are one of the youngest (if not THE youngest teams in the AHL). They also lost their starting goalie to the Rangers after only a few games. I think if they were counting on Talbot being there. They have one 6 of 7 to get within striking distance. The difference between the Wolfpaclk and most AHL teams is that the Rangers are more focused on devloping prospects than winning at the AHL level. Sure, winning is great for the organization, but they' play their kids rather than a bunch of AHL lifers. My list of call-ups is as follows (Based on how they did it last year, bringing up a practice squad): G: LeNeveu D: Allen, McIlrath, Bickel and maybe Johnson or Syvret. F: Miller, Lindberg, Kristo, Bourque, Hrivik. I guess Powe, Asham and maybe Haley if they want some NHL experienced guys.

ColoradoMark


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:54 am EST

I sure hope the Rangers don't need the 2 points come Saturday night - they rarely play well in Montreal.

RF4L


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:51 am EST

WB hospo. Good to see you back. Its good many of the people coming back and adding their 2 cents on here. Hospo don't worry you will be wrong soon enough you usually are. lets get ready for the playoffs boys and enjoy the run.

KIS


Thu Apr 10 2014 8:11 am EST

The Wolfpack are 7 points out of a PO spot with only a few games left (good job down there Sather) so it won't be long before the Rangers call up some of the team for their PO run. I wonder who those players will be. Gotta figure McI and Miller are 2. Probably Lindbergh and Kristo also?

RF4L


Thu Apr 10 2014 7:46 am EST

Today's Schedule, Rangers @ MSG playing Buffalo, & here's to Tampa beating Philthy (playing in Tampa) : http://www.nhl.com/ice/schedulebyday.htm?navid=nav-sch-today

mf


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:32 pm EST

Hospo, next up tomorrow night against the Sabres. IMO a must win, need to beat the teams you're supposed to beat. Followed by a Saturday Night Black Tie affair at "Montreal," good riddance.. Can someone say, "Damnphouse?" I wonder what our record is for Saturday Nights in Hab-Land ?

mf


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:18 pm EST

MF - Glad to see both CBJ and DET in..Totally different styles but Both of them can give Pitt and Bos (to a lesser extent) a battle...Hell, Rangers gotta get a win in the next two to make sure they don't slip down..In any event, the Eastern POs should be interesting..DItto for the West....SJ ad LA in an opening round? Gotta love the NHL POs

Hospo


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:12 pm EST

Columbus & Detroit clinch the 14th & 15th PO berth, room for one more... http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?type=lea#&navid=nav-stn-league

mf


Wed Apr 9 2014 8:18 pm EST

MFred: I was trying a "reverse whammy" but the damn thing "boomerranged" and hit "The Post!" ;-) who woulda thunk?

mf


Wed Apr 9 2014 7:56 pm EST

Mf....I think the answer is yes...that post was a riddle wrapped as a puzzle!

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 9 2014 7:52 pm EST

Just an FYI.......Anisimov has 22 goals this year. Not to shabby!

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 9 2014 6:30 pm EST

I was reffering to tampa in my last post.

York18


Wed Apr 9 2014 6:29 pm EST

I'd bet they play a 1-4 system and force the game into a crawl. They were playing that system off and on all year.

York18


Wed Apr 9 2014 5:55 pm EST

StinkyBoots: Yeah, I'm a Salmon, one of the mightiest fish of all time, and yeah, Smoked too. As for the Bears, if the zebra's call the game accurately, The Bruins don't scare me. (must be Wild's rosey colored Ranger Glasses, ay RF4L?) LeTs Go RaNgErS ! BTW, there are no Salmon in D'Nile, Just Slow Chariots! ;-> Happy Passover Bootsy, it's all about freedom..........

mf


Wed Apr 9 2014 5:48 pm EST

PJ: got to think that Tampa is going to play Team defense like never before, lead by none other than Ryan Callahan, knowing who their backstop is ...

mf


Wed Apr 9 2014 5:17 pm EST

Mf are you a salmon? ... Smoked?.... Swim upstream... Watch out for the bears not the bares....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 9 2014 4:58 pm EST

York....Hopefully they do tone it down but Rinaldo is a loose cannon and can do some damage....Then you have Buckwheat who will slash your glove off and then attempt to slash your bare hand....

PJ


Wed Apr 9 2014 4:55 pm EST

I hear Bishop is hurt for the Bolts....Was hoping they could take care of the Flyers tomorrow night in Tampa....Without him in net I doubt it....Maybe the Pens will beat them Saturday....

PJ


Wed Apr 9 2014 4:46 pm EST

Yo KinkyBoots: Suckers bt ay? Like in bromance? Think you got MFred all wrong.... As for getting with the program, I'm in D'Nile, friggin river runs North. Go figure.... ciao.. :->

mf


Wed Apr 9 2014 4:41 pm EST

veenyo should be resting guys but he's worried about home ice, which is too convoluted for me with the new brackets of the nhl ncaa .....play carcillo , play falk, call guys up for tomorrow.....play the prince.....beat the chips ......then put your playoff lineup in for Saturday against the hab nots......

stevielegs


Wed Apr 9 2014 4:37 pm EST

mf I gave mfred a chance to get even on what he called a suckers bet. wake up get with the program....scroll down and on......

stevielegs


Wed Apr 9 2014 2:44 pm EST

PJ teams have to be a little more careful about intent to injure in the POs it's one thing to lose a player for a few games in the regular season another to lose them for a series. As dirty as the Flyers play watch them every year come playoffs they tone it down, they do a lot of after scrum BS and try and run the goalie but the rest tones down compared to the regular season. The playoffs as a whole are more physical but I always find them to be less dirty in fear of series long suspensions.

York18


Wed Apr 9 2014 2:17 pm EST

mf: :)

Ranger47


Wed Apr 9 2014 2:11 pm EST

New Wallster Mr. Hospo: re: fight in the dog: Is that why the NY Jets signed Michael Vick ? This is all so confusing...........

mf


Wed Apr 9 2014 1:03 pm EST

MFred, I bet StevieKinkyBoots a case of your beer that we don't go deep in the Playoffs... (Let's say winn 2 rounds, which I will gladly lose to see our Rangers move on) If I win, I will gladly contribute half my case toward your debt.... In other words, I hope you "short-sold" your case for a future delivery... Tradestar, care to comment? :-)

mf


Wed Apr 9 2014 12:59 pm EST

Happy Days are here again...Hospo's BACK! :)

Ranger47


Wed Apr 9 2014 12:58 pm EST

Wow, a new Wallster. Welcome Aboard Mr. Hospo, I hope your Tai-Ping & Grahmar are good. IMO, we will beat the Philthy Phlyers with the Power Play.. We may not match up in an Alley Fight, but I do believe we are a faster, more agile, and a better passing club. One thing that coach Aveeno Oatmeal has me confident in, is that he will roll 4 lines & 3 defensive pairs, and balance the allocation of playing time.... Now I'm bnot sure if your a defensive minded Rangerfan, but for what it's worth, the Ranger's GAA is down below 2.4 p/g..... "Stay Thirsty My Friend!" ... :->

mf


Wed Apr 9 2014 12:19 pm EST

I believe we beat the Flyers due to our superiority in net....If Hank is on we win in six....The question I have is how big of a price will we have paid physically....The Flyers will attempt to hurt our better players....Any key players lost and we go out in round two....

PJ


Wed Apr 9 2014 12:13 pm EST

Hospo....WB....like I posted the other night, you'd have to come back on to collect.....which you have. So how do i send you some nice Belgian Beer?? I don't mind paying up especially after that real good performance last night.

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 9 2014 12:13 pm EST

Linden in as Canucks Pres. Speculation about hirings to come: Naslund, Messier

Messier11


Wed Apr 9 2014 12:05 pm EST

RF4L: I think that lack of aggression can be a downfall, however there are always "ifs" in sports....and York touched on it as well, IF the refs call penalties and the Rangers PP can get goals at a decent rate, and the Rangers lack of aggression keeps them off the PK than it COULD turn into a positive of sorts...but that takes a lot of things going right, first the Refs, and second the PP working. If the PP works other teams that like to be aggressive (Flyers and Bruins to start with) will have to back down or pay the price. Again, I would like to see more aggressiveness, Zucc brings it, Pouliot brings it sometimes, the 4th line is good with that for the most part. Would like to see Hags zip in and make a hit now and again, Nash to show a little anger every once in a while, same with Brass....but I don't know if they can sustain that AND play their games to get points on the board.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 9 2014 12:05 pm EST

RF4L: The Rangers have a few bromances..Steps & MACD: use to be Cally and Girardi; St Louis and Richards.

DOUBLEN


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:46 am EST

if the nyr show more fight than usual , they will need a telephone booth to change from Clark Kents to Supermen.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:46 am EST

RF/TOP have to disagree on Boyle, come the playoffs he always becomes more physical and he's usually a pain to play against come playoff time and has been. That's the one time he actually uses his body more.....RF I think we could get a little more aggressive, or nastier come the playoffs and may lack that, but we can also hope that the refs call penalties and let our now resurging PP hurt teams that take stupid penalties/liberties. Can the Rangers out skill the more physical teams? That's a great question and I certainly hope so but to be honest I don't have a clue. You could argue that history would say otherwise, but you could argue in favor of a skilled team outworking a physical one. The Hawks outlasted the Bruins last they met letting them beat themselves up and tire themselves out. Do we have the skill and puck control to do that? I guess we will find out, but first they have to beat the Flyers. I think a lot of it will depend on believe it or not Stepan, will he disappear this playoffs, or will he finally breakout? With Nash and MSL on his wings I think he just may break out. The question then becomes where does Kreider play when he comes back with Hags and Richards? His big body and speed with be essential in the playoffs to wearing the opposing team down in their own zone against the boards.

York18


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:16 am EST

RF4L/WILD - We all know the Mark Twain saying about it not being the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog....The grueling POs is when you see if you have enough of that fight...The next month will tell..

Hospo


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:13 am EST

OK...aggressiveness - we can concur on that description. I think the Rangers lack of will prevent them from going deep in the POs. I hope I'm wrong and contrary to what some apparently think about me, I am sometimes wrong and will admit to it when it occurs (as rare a thing as that might be - lol).

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:11 am EST

Hospo: WB....I cannot recall that bet, but will email you nonetheless. I owe you beer from a previous bet, I think. Or 2!

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:11 am EST

Hospo back on the Wall......Today is a great day!

TradeStar28


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:10 am EST

Wild: When I say lack of grit, you jump on that, too. How''s this, then: The lack of physical prowess will be the Rangers undoing this PO. If you wanna argue that, don't bother - we can agree to disagree on this point, however you want to describe what that point is.

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:08 am EST

Top: I stand corrected. Another guy who doesn't strike fear in the opposing team's hearts. That said, he sometimes is quite physical, unless Nash who doesn't hit anything.

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:08 am EST

RF4L: that's my point. Stop saying the Rangers lack of size...they have plenty of size, they are near the middle of the league in average size, and outside of Zucc and MSL they are not any smaller than any team. And as for Zucc, he is only 8-10 pounds less than Pouliot...and people talk about him here as a bigger body....the only difference is height...and you COULD argue that more weight on a shorter frame is better. Yes the Rangers are not intimidating...but I dont think many NHL players feel that intimidation, but they can take hits and are not afraid to take them to make a play. They also counter some of the other teams size with their speed. How often do you see hags, or Kreider hit solid along the boards when they are skating into the D zone? It doesn't happen often, Dmen cant risk trying to make that hit, if they miss its over, so they play their angles and keep the forward along to the boards...but that's how the rangers WANT to play, get deep and make good passes down low, get a cycle going. The ability of the Rangers top D to play the angles and stay in lanes negates some of the size from a guy like Lucic, Staal and McD are great at chipping pucks off sticks...doesn't matter how hard Lucic goes to the net if he cant keep the puck. The point is that there are facts, one of those is that the Rangers are not a small team outside two guys, and can take hits and keep on playing just like the "bigger teams" . As for the Flyers....they really aren't that big....I mean, they are very similar to the Rangers outside 1 or 2 guys, nothing that says they can do more or less to tire out the Rangers....the size thing is overblown by Rangers fans for the most part...aggressiveness...yeah, they need more on the ice shift to shift...but in part that's why they can avoid too many penalties...so it has good and bad parts to it...I still would like to see more.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:07 am EST

Hey Wallsters.....Hope everybody is healthy and happy and enjoying the Rangers.........MELVILLE FRED and RF4L - I think we have some wagers to settle up on...FRED - Though Stevie was more vocal, I think I was the first one you bet that the Rangers wouldn't make the POs....And RF4L, I think we had a bet that the Rangers wouldn't be figthing for their PO lives the last two weeks of the season...Contact me at hospo2001@yahoo.com to work out the details of the ALE transfer..:)...I could use it,,,........As for the Rangers, they do not play the game or are constructed as I would totally like but damn if they aren't skilled/talented, working well together and giving their all....That's good enough for me...Can see them beating the FLYERS but not sure they have enough strength/fight/nastiness to win SERIES after that...But I hope to be proven wrong..

Hospo


Wed Apr 9 2014 11:00 am EST

the rangers biggest player is Brian Boyle....

Topovski


Wed Apr 9 2014 10:55 am EST

And you're actually comparing Kreider and Lucic in your argument. That alone is enough to tell you height and weight comparisons aren't the story.

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 10:54 am EST

BTW, it's not all about size. The Rangers biggest player is Rick Nash and he's about as intimidating as my 84 year old mother when it comes to a physically played game.

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 10:52 am EST

Wild: Don't be a nob please. I can easily counter with equal rudeness, like 'enough with the Sather-kissing glasses', but where does that lead, other than to get your rankle up and what does that achieve. I maintain my concern is valid - given the way things are looking right now (a Philly/Ranger 1st round series), we'll see soon enough.

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 10:50 am EST

WILDCARD is right on the color commentators.We are subjected to (former devil) Peter McNabb, or as I like to call him Peter McKnob. The guy is the ultimate homer and makes me hate the Avs, even though they have a great, likable team. He ruins it for me and I can't stand having to listen to him. He is the reason most Avs fans are ignorant, spoiled brats when it comes to hockey.

ColoradoMark


Wed Apr 9 2014 10:50 am EST

For what ever reason. Looks like Marty St louis is starting to get confortable. He is finding his groove. You can tell his team mates respect him. Come playoffs he will be a difference maker.

rangerlou


Wed Apr 9 2014 10:43 am EST

I like the chemistry of the 4 lines as we now have them. The team is jelling at exactly the right time, and if they can stay relatively healthy have the potential to go past the first couple of rounds....

Ranger47


Wed Apr 9 2014 10:43 am EST

RF4L: Enough with that myth. Other than 2 players the Rangers are about the same size wise as every other team. If you want to say a lack of physical aggression than OK, I agree, but they are not smaller. The Big Bad Bruins only have 4 forwards over 200 pounds...the rest are the same size as the Rangers....the D on Boston has more guys oat or over 200, but the sizes are relatively close (especially when you factor in height) But for some reason people seem to think that the Rangers are all midgets compared to the Bruins. In reality its just their style of play, hell, Lucic is "only" 220, that's a few pound LESS than Kreiders listed weight and only a few pounds more than Nash. Its not like he is Chara on wing. You look at MSL and Zucc and say the team is small...hell people call Boston players that are 6 foot 190 big, but Hagelin at 5'11" 186 small....I mean really...4 pounds and 1 inch less and he is small but the Boston player is "big" its so silly. Now those heights and weights...who knows for sure....but that goes for BOTH teams listed stuff....anyway, Boston considered a "big" team is not much bigger than the rest of the NHL WITH Chara included, but people see 1 big forward in the top 6, and 1 towering Dman and teh entire team grown 3 inches and gains 10 pounds. They see one small forward and the entire rest of the team shrinks.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 9 2014 10:27 am EST

Veenyo and NYR relying too much on finese in the rough and tumble inconsistent nhl....which claims one thing and approves of another.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 9 2014 9:53 am EST

Marchand/Seguin bromance? What are you saying there NN?

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 9:52 am EST

Wild: Your optimism is admirable (and I've told you that previously) but I maintain the team's lack of size will be their downfall. Again, I hope I'm wrong and will happily admit that on here if it happens.

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 9:12 am EST

RF4L: Basically Boston gave up on Seguin..off ice activities and wanted to break up the Marchand/Seguin bromance.

DOUBLEN


Wed Apr 9 2014 8:47 am EST

Oh and MSL, the man looked like a different player last night. Maybe he has turned that corner and will just relax and play now. By the end of the night that line of MSL-Step-Nash started to really click, maybe the canes were not trying hard, but if they can play like that more shifts than not they will be hard to stop. The Brass line, well those 3...my oh my. The 4th line is still doing very well, and that will continue I am sure into the playoffs. The Richards line looked good, and we shall see if that continues. How about this for a problem....what do you do with Kreider when he is healthy? I guess fast would come out, but if they continue to play well, the Rangers will be hard to contain...THEN you add Kreider....AV must be feeling pretty confident right now....

Wildcard


Wed Apr 9 2014 8:43 am EST

A couple of things. First off there are MUCH worse Color guys that the one we have to listen to. OK, so to the game. FAST: He definitely understands the game, right place more often than not, had a really good pass at one point. Didn't look at all like the player from the first 8 games, still a good worker though. He also looks bigger than I remember, he will be an asset to the team moving forward. I tihnk if he plays the next couple games the same that we will not see Miller on the ice until camp. NASH: Someone pointed out that he doesn't have any PP goals for quite some time. However last night one of the goals was scored with him creating traffic in front, and that counts for something IMHO. If he wasn't there perhaps a save is made or the puck is blocked/deflected away. Nash also still draws the D coverage, so when he gets the puck the PK box moves to him, he then makes good passes, and he has don't that on the PP many times, its not his fault that the goal is not scored. He has been playing well as of late, but just hasn't seen much reward.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 9 2014 7:47 am EST

Just saw the highlights - what passes by MZA and MSL.

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 7:43 am EST

So by the write-ups, MSL is finally finding his game, I see. Whew. Still don't like the trade, but certainly don't dislike the player and how disconcerting if he doesn't continue to improve and then sustain that improvement.

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 7:33 am EST

BTW, Tyler Seguin 3rd in the league scoring. Why did Boston give him up again? I guess if they win the cup it's moot, but geesh, he's only like 22. How good will he get and for how long??

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 7:28 am EST

stevie: It's a bit of a drag for me not seeing so many Ranger games, but I sure don't miss Shitiletti. He is for me by far the worse colour guy I've ever been subjected to. He does NBC games (as I'm guessing you know) and while still lousy at that role, not as irritating as he wearing an MSG hat. Part of that, I'm sure, is due to the tyrant like rule the rich man's son emulates. JD was very different, too, Of course, not nearly as bad as Shitiletti, but it was painfully obvious he went out of his way not to criticize the Rangers or even the opposition regardless of how obvious criticism was warranted. Meanwhile, he did regular 2nd period intermission gigs on HNIC and presented a very different persona - more edgy, critical (when warranted) and insightful. I'm not absolving Shitiletti here, just saying it's another sorry piece of the rich man's son's paranoid fingers being everywhere.

RF4L


Wed Apr 9 2014 7:13 am EST

I wish we could restructure the Richards deal....he is playing well this season and I think he has 2 more years in him as a valuable team member. Congrats to Zucc....as I predicted, and Hank will get the MVP.

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 9 2014 7:08 am EST

Didn't get to post last night but I would have to say that was as good a game and effort as we've had all year. Never mind that it was against the 'Canes, teams that are out of it are tough to play. The King was good early on and then we just took over. Fast looked good with Richards and Haglin and the Brassard line was awesome. I'm thrilled they didn't shit the bed on Captain Steven McDonald night!!! They more often than not do. LGR!!

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 9 2014 4:15 am EST

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/09/sports/hockey/month-later-trade-pays-off-for-the-rangers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0&referrer=

stevielegs


Wed Apr 9 2014 2:49 am EST

A new feature of the PO's brackets is that you basically can be 6th in the East and still get home ice advantage....

Ola


Wed Apr 9 2014 2:47 am EST

Nash is not a good PP player. He is of the -- I don't know if old is the proper term, maybe "wrong" is better -- school. He has been on a PP built around him and since he is a finnisher those PPs might pad some stats but they will never be effective. Obviously hte optimal solution would be to get Nash into Pouliots role infront of the net, let BR and MSL run one PP and Brassard and Zucc the other (with BR doing double duty on the point).

Ola


Tue Apr 8 2014 11:37 pm EST

The two dummies talking up the canes when score was 1-0 and would have continued but the nyr stopped their bs routine....Dave Malonney deserves dickaletti 's job....send Popeye to nbc permanently ...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 11:32 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2014/04/08/brad-richards-two-power-play-goals-propel-rangers/

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 11:29 pm EST

http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/rangers/richards-st-louis-rangers-blow-hurricanes-article-1.1750145

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 11:25 pm EST

Msl with 3 assists second star hopefully really starting to click with this team and getting the pp back to where it was.....goals will probably start coming too..... They are playing close to the way they need to be preceding turning it up a notch for the playoffs....get ready for Boyle to lead the way...:and I'm expecting msl to do the same....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 11:13 pm EST

Fact brought up by 2 dummies hinting before the game who the award winner was. BAZOOKERELLA was a healthy scratch back in October .... When the nyr were basically sucking too....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 10:08 pm EST

so was that an MSL win?

Messier11


Tue Apr 8 2014 9:55 pm EST

TB is in serious trouble if they have just lost Bishop

Messier11


Tue Apr 8 2014 9:18 pm EST

7-2-1 in last 10....Not too shabby....One thing mentioned tonight that shocked me...Nash hasn't had a PP goal since January....Wow....

PJ


Tue Apr 8 2014 8:40 pm EST

Nice game by Richards...He had been looking tired to me lately....More jump tonight and combined with his smarts makes him dangerous....Zucc is just amazing to watch...J.Moore seemed to get lots of ice and did well with it....Stress free game for the most part which is nice....

PJ


Tue Apr 8 2014 7:48 pm EST

Philly is leading Florida 2-0. LGR

rangerlou


Tue Apr 8 2014 7:41 pm EST

in front of

mf


Tue Apr 8 2014 7:40 pm EST

RE: 2ND GOAL: Kudo's to Nash who parked himself right in of WARD as we were setting up the PP.......

mf


Tue Apr 8 2014 7:30 pm EST

Richie19&20

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 7:28 pm EST

2 PPG's???

rngrsans


Tue Apr 8 2014 7:28 pm EST

Another pp goal.. Wowie zeewaw

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 7:07 pm EST

Poolie

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 6:39 pm EST

A pp goal... Holy mackerel

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 6:22 pm EST

And that was his man who scored... No extra effort on that one...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 6:12 pm EST

Leave it to Rangers fans to make the right choice for the Extra Effort award....Zuccarello epitomizes everything a Ranger should be IMO

JFC31


Tue Apr 8 2014 6:11 pm EST

BAZOOKERELLA

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 6:09 pm EST

ZUUUUUUUK!!!

JFC31


Tue Apr 8 2014 5:17 pm EST

According to the Province, Linden and Feaster haven't heard from the Canucks. Naslund, who recently resigned as GM of MoDo, declined to comment

Messier11


Tue Apr 8 2014 3:56 pm EST

Kenny Albert &#10004; @KennyAlbert It's quite an accomplishment to make playoffs 8 of last 9 years. It's not the old NHL (16 of 21); now 16 of 30. 47% miss each year. #NYR

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 3:26 pm EST

So Tortorella survives the first big hit....

RF4L


Tue Apr 8 2014 2:28 pm EST

http://m.tsn.ca/nhl/article?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbsympatico.vo.llnwd.net%2Fo35%2Ffeeds%2Fufs%2Fxml%2Ftsn_mobile%2Fnews%2Fnews_nhl.xml&itemId=448707&pageName=NHL&feedId=82008

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 2:26 pm EST

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/comments/staal_says_neils_hit_was_late/

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 2:22 pm EST

Think of the NHL Playoffs as brackets and not seeding .

DOUBLEN


Tue Apr 8 2014 2:08 pm EST

McKenzie: Gillis out.

Messier11


Tue Apr 8 2014 2:05 pm EST

Shonuff: There is no more 1-8. It is 1-3 in each division. 2 play 3 in the division. #1 in each division play the wildcards, and those are the next two best teams from the conference regardless of division. So one division could send 3 and the other 5, or each 4. But each division sends at least 3.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 8 2014 1:52 pm EST

I am sure this was mentioned on here somewhere but Iam occasional lurker to this board. Can someone explain to me why if season ended today Tampa would face Montreal ??????? I get the 1-8 and 2-7 but...wouldn't 3 seed be Habs at this point ??

shonuff


Tue Apr 8 2014 1:33 pm EST

mfred he'll probably play Thursday or Saturday to get ready for those beer playoffs....lol....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 1:31 pm EST

I'm praying they do NOT event think about playing McDonagh!!! That would just be plain stupid!! Oh, so he'll be in next game......

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 8 2014 12:56 pm EST

he can buy a dog kennel...he knows how to treat them.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 8 2014 11:02 am EST

He should invest it wisely

Messier11


Tue Apr 8 2014 10:37 am EST

AV isn't sure he wants to play Ryan McDonagh before the season ends, even if he is healthy. McDonagh may be able to practice with the team tomorrow depending on how he feels later today (Katie Strang).... McDonagh is taking "light shots" and was setting up MSL for one-timers (Andrew Gross)

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 8 2014 10:21 am EST

Suspect you're right Mess - Tortorella, however, will ride off into the sunset a very wealthy man - gonna take $8,000,000 to terminate his contract. WIsh I had that problem!!

RF4L


Tue Apr 8 2014 10:17 am EST

Im thinking one and done, though.

Messier11


Tue Apr 8 2014 10:16 am EST

McKenzie saying Trevor Linden to be announced as President of Canucks. Will decide fate of Gillis. Gillis or new GM will decide fate of Tortorella.

Messier11


Tue Apr 8 2014 10:06 am EST

They'd better now dress McD until he's 100%, especially against the Flyers.

RF4L


Tue Apr 8 2014 9:37 am EST

Kreider and McD both on for optional. Kreider does not have a glove on his left hand, instead has a brace of some sort, not gripping stick at all with it according to twitter reports. On Kreider, he could have had a nerve pinched badly as well....I am fairly certain some surgeries can help that. And when a nerve is pinched long term it can have terrible effects, so there is always that possibility. I bet however we find out some later time that it was a small fracture or a bone chip.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 8 2014 9:32 am EST

Rhet, Wouldn't be shocked to see McD in 1 of the last 2 games. Maybe not the last game, and if possible the game on Thursday. I say that because getting him in a game and taking a hit is good for the mental aspect, and giving him the last game off gives him extra rest and even more recovery. But I think it would be good to get him in a game so his first game back isn't the playoffs against a team like the flyers.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 8 2014 9:03 am EST

NYStranger.... AV had said that Kreider's surgery was to repair a broken bone in his hand. It could have been as simple as a knuckle fracture, which can be very painful until fixed (IE. Boxer's Fracture).... Schneidw.... McDonagh has said that he was expecting to be back before the end of the season, but with the team clinching, I wouldn't be surprised to see the team hold him out until the postseason... https://blueshirtsunited.com/posts/5458/relieved-mcdonagh-i-m-going-to-play-as-soon-as-i-can

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 8 2014 8:07 am EST

schneidw: IMO if kid K's hand was broken the Rangers would have said that. Because they were quiet about it and then he needed surgery my guess would be some kind of a tendon or ligament tear. There was some quote I read that he wanted to play through it but was told that doing so would have long term consequences.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 8 2014 8:01 am EST

Gawd, I hate the Flyers - that asshole punk-face Rinaldo gets suspended 4 games and then accepts blame for the hit - sort of. He says 'It's just one of those hits that kind of slipped away from me. It was bad timing and a little vulnerability on his side of the puck, too. My bad and his bad at the same time." Nob!

RF4L


Tue Apr 8 2014 7:39 am EST

Congratulations to the Rangers for making the POs. Four years in a row now, which is nothing to sneeze at. Time, however, to get past the 1 or 2 and done - time to make a deep PO run. If not, moves like getting Nash, MSL and even Ryan Clowe are all very questionable. All that said, I will be VERY pleasantly surprised to see this team win 2 rounds. Nonetheless, making the POs remains a commendable feat IMO - so good job Rangers!

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:18 pm EST

also the idiot fans are always yelling shoooottt on the power play like they know how to play......lets play all of our games on the road!!!!

vcp1994


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:03 pm EST

who care about home ice. MSG sucks anyway the fans always booo unless the rangers score 10 goals only to go quiet afterwards. MSG is not what it used to be. the only advantage is line matchups. Other than that there is no advantage, Montreal that is a loud building...MSG you can go to sleep in....

vcp1994


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:44 pm EST

KREIDER- So K19 is working out at NYR complex and wearing a black Velcro brace.... to me, that doesn't sound like a broken hand (no cast) but I am not an MD... any ideas?

schneidw


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:18 pm EST

stevie: I don't disagree. But I simply cannot see it happening - I think it's a lock that the King will play until they clinch.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:00 pm EST

Rf that's the mistake coaches make. He needs to get his team on a roll without overworking hank. He's the key in the playoffs. The Cryers have overdone it for many years. So did talkerella. ... Home ice is not an advantage for this team. They cry when msg gets quiet....nyr fans at msg ride the roller coaster ...

stevielegs


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:51 pm EST

AV will be shooting for 2nd in the division, meaning the King will play tomorrow and until they have that spot clinched.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:48 pm EST

Now he can play the prince tomorrow which he should have done on Saturday

stevielegs


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:43 pm EST

home ice....Although not sure why...We suck at the Garden....

PJ


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:42 pm EST

Confirmed....We are in....Now let's get hime ice in round one....

PJ


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:40 pm EST

I believe the Rangers just qualified for the playoffs can someone confirm

tlats


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:40 pm EST

Nyr clinch... Mfred ready for double or nothing? .... Fasten your seat belt...

stevielegs


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:40 pm EST

NOW were in. If only it could have been Brodeur choking to do it

Messier11


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:34 pm EST

Crushing loss by Devils....Ramo and Flames shut them out 1-0.....

PJ


Mon Apr 7 2014 6:12 pm EST

Ryan McDonough: I am starting get VERY worried that MCD is injured more than the NYRs are saying in "day to day" based on the fact that MCD is NOT skating at practice... I understand no contact, but no skating sounds more serious.. sure hope its not a shoulder separation

schneidw


Mon Apr 7 2014 6:08 pm EST

WildCard- The "stats" may suggest the NYRs are middle of the pack wrt size (height and weight), but even ignoring the NYRs inflate their players sizes... size is meaningless when the biggest players (eg Boyle) skew the mean because they are the softest players.. which is NOT the norm in the NHL...

schneidw


Mon Apr 7 2014 4:32 pm EST

cOLORADOmARK BOSTON WILL KILL US IF WE GET THAT FAR, AS WILL PITTSBURGH, WITH kREIDER OUR CHances improve slightly

vcp1994


Mon Apr 7 2014 4:32 pm EST

RF I agree patience and a little bit lower of expectations should be in order for Miller. The thing is I just don't see how another year in Hartford is going to help him any. Maybe a shuttle between the two on a more regular basis may be in order, maybe a 50/50 split.

York18


Mon Apr 7 2014 4:28 pm EST

I would bet that Fast is up because the fourth line is not effective without Boyle.He will be back there in the next game. I do not think he gets enough credit on the Wall for the contributions he makes. He is a big guy but not a fighter. Put Zucc in his body and he would be the franchise first line center that goes in the first 5 rounds of the draft.He is what he is and I believe an important piece to this years success.

gene_carr


Mon Apr 7 2014 4:26 pm EST

read=red

Messier11


Mon Apr 7 2014 4:26 pm EST

Just came across a pretty great quote from Jacques Plante: "How would you like a job where every time you made a mistake, a big read light went off and 18,000 people booed?"

Messier11


Mon Apr 7 2014 3:48 pm EST

York: I agree with most of what you have to say about Miller, but I do wonder if we're all be a tad impatient here and perhaps all that's needed is more time to develop. After all, he's very young (just turned 21), inexperienced (in only his 2nd professional season), has been rushed by the organization, and has been lauded by some as a legitimate top 6 forward, creating, as you suggest, some high expectations from the fanbase. Immaturity is not a bad thing, nor unusual for someone in his shoes. It could be that more than anything else and if so, some firm handling, guidance and more importantly patience may be all that's needed.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 2:47 pm EST

steam momentum should read STEAL momentum

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 2:45 pm EST

Clearly something is up with Miller....and due to that I cant think he is the best option. If Fast can play better than Miller with out the puck that he is a better option because there is in reality, enough scoring on the top 9 even with out Kreider. Especially if the lines are not a defensive mess. I would rather have Fast out there and get no points but be on the ice for zero goals against than have Miller get a point or two but be out for goals against....even if he is "even" because giving up goals can steam momentum, even a bad defensive play can help swing momentum and that's not good in the playoffs.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 2:30 pm EST

If Kreider isn't coming back any time soon, which it seems like he's not, Miller is still the best internal option. Hopefully he does his time and gets his crap together, because he has enough skill and physicality to play in the Top 9. Not sure if Fast is ready for prime time in the playoffs. But obviously there's Miller stuff we don't fully know about. From Carp: "I think this is his wake-up call. I know he arrived later than all the other young guys to the pre-camp unofficial workouts. Not sure, but there must have been something else more recently that ticked off AV about him. And apparently it was off-ice related."

chinstrap


Mon Apr 7 2014 1:45 pm EST

Trade, I agree winger is the easiest job on the team in terms of how you have to be responsible for the most part. Do I feel Miller would be better served at wing? Personally yes, that's why I said he has the skill to fill in on the top two lines at wing. He seems to prefer the center position. I think the way he can take the body, he has good speed, and the chance to take some of the defensive side of the game off his shoulders would be great for him, with that said the Rangers want him at center and he wants to be a center. His best game as a Ranger was on the wing and I don't think that was coincidence. Either way Miller has next year to make his mark, or he will be gone in a trade IMO.

York18


Mon Apr 7 2014 1:34 pm EST

york...i honestly know little about coaching hockey....but let's say JT Miller is put at wing.....So after playing 15 plus years of organized hockey,. wouldnt most professional players "know" where the fugg to go at every instance of a hockey game? Especially a winger....there job seems easiest out of all the positions. Now, if he was playing "CENTER" then I would think its more difficult because you always have to be responsible with the opponents center when they break into your zone.....And you need to be a bit more creative at CENTER....But being a freakin LW or RW? Honestly...how hard is it to understand how the NHL game is played? If i was getting paid as an NHL winger...I would even watch game tape of the other teams before the actual freakin matchup. lol

TradeStar28


Mon Apr 7 2014 1:18 pm EST

RF4L let's start with the true idea of what Miller is IMO. Miller to me will be a skilled third line center who can fill on the top lines as a winger if need be. I think his level has been a little bit blown up by guys like TD so I'm not really sure what everyone is expecting from him, if they are expecting this blue chip first liner then they will always be disappointed when he is called up. Where I think his problems are is I think he's somewhat lazy, like many players with talent when forced to work they often don't do well right away (Kreider is a great example) I think the other problem is his lack of confidence and sometimes what seems like frustration with the rest of his team in terms of being able to score. That causes him to hold onto the puck longer then need be, at the AHL level he can get away with it to a large degree while in the NHL it just causes mistakes. I think he has a chip on his shoulder and believes he belongs in the NHL and that's just my opinion but I feel is one of the things holding him back. He is not a super star player, I don't think so at all, I hope I'm dead wrong but I don't think so. I think you're right he does lack hockey sense especially without the puck and under pressure the question comes can he obtain the sense? I think he needs a regular shift in the NHL or you trade him next year because sitting in the AHL is not going to help him any more then it has already. I think he either shows he's the real deal, or you move him before his value drops.

York18


Mon Apr 7 2014 12:30 pm EST

Wild: Yeah, it could very well be AV and staff (and the coaches at Hartford) are telling him stuff like 'stop shooting from way out and dump and chase it more often' and he refuses. To me, that's a very quick way to get demoted. And if it's the case, shame on him and why? Are you that arrogant or that stupid? All in all though, nothing unusual when it comes to young talent. I just wish they'd stop rushing these kids. I maintain he should have had a 2nd year in junior (last year) and then spent this year in the AHL. What the hell is the rush - it fails more often than not (and we don't even have to go outside the Ranger organization for evidence of that) and what kid gets ruined because he spent his final year in junior or an entire year (or more) learning how to play pro at the AHL level? It's funny because while there's clearly evidence in NY that it's risky practices (ie MDZ), there's great examples of how not rushing players is the best decision (ie Staal, Callahan, etc).

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 12:25 pm EST

RF4L: I think yes, the Ragners have a couple really small Forwards in Zucc and MSL. (neither play as small as they are) But the Rangers as a team are "only" 1 inch shorter than the tallest team, and 9 pounds lighter than the heaviest team. They are middle of the pack in both (well not quite 13th tallest and 21st heaviest.) Now those numbers are as of season start, so they are not adjusted to the changes...but still...they are near average....its not like they are the smallest and lightest in the NHL....

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 12:18 pm EST

RF4L: That is where I think what AV said comes into play. said something that implied he isn't working hard enough on OR off the ice. So it seems like the coaches at least feel that its work ethic, not ability to learn. Maybe its due to being a kid still, or maybe he just doesn't have it in him to do what it takes to be a pro (think Daigle)...we shall see for sure at some point, but we will also know what the Rangers think...if they move him for a pick or as part of a package for a Center, than we know they feel its just something he isn't capable of doing. And hell, he may need to be traded because of that in order for him to really see its a problem and change.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 12:12 pm EST

CMark: I like this team now better than last year's version, both because of the roster differences and the coaching difference. I just don't see them being big enough.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 12:09 pm EST

York: What I don't understand is why this isn't a problem for many young developing players, especially those with skill. There are plenty of examples of talented kids who excelled in the AHL and then used that as a stepping stone to figure out and eventually do well in the NHL. What is it about Miller that is preventing him from doing what so many others have done before him (and will continue to do)? That's why I wonder about his hockey sense and overall ability to just plain think (which does not mean I'm calling him stupid, please note). For example, instead of shooting from way out because you cannot get as to the goalie as you can in the AHL, trying dumping and chasing it. Instead of making that 2nd or 3rd move and lose the puck, shoot it or pass it. I totally get what you and wild are saying about the differences he's facing in the NHL vs AHL, but those are differences all skill players face.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 11:43 am EST

CM I'm not confident Veenyo knows what it takes in the playoffs to win, and can get it done. I sure hope I'm wrong. ....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 7 2014 11:43 am EST

MSL back with Nash, Step. Honestly, I think this is the line that he will eventually click with. Saw a number of near-misses last time they were together. that leaves Hags/Richards/Fast, Pouliot/Brass/MZA, Boyle/Moore/Dorsett+Carcillo

Messier11


Mon Apr 7 2014 11:21 am EST

The next two games against Carolina and Buffalo are big. Looks like a PO spot is almost a lock, but - as unlikely as it is - if the Flyers and BJs run the table they would have 95 points (or 93 if they lose only one of their last 4 games). At 91 points we need 2 wins to assure ourselves of finishing 2nd or 3rd in the Division as opposed to being a wild card and having to face Pitt in the first round. So, I do not want to hear the announcers and team say that "we are a point away from the POs" - I want to hear them say that they 2 wins away from locking up 2nd in the Division. I want to win the next 2 and go into Montreal for the final game of the season with Talbot in goal to give the King a rest.....

Ranger47


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:58 am EST

COMark: I was in 108, 7 rows up...next to the tunnel that is basically unused accept for the ice girls.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:55 am EST

WILD- I was in section 102 the other night. a few rows back from the kid who got a fat lip from the puck. Where were you sitting?

ColoradoMark


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:55 am EST

MESS- WILD's take was how I thought the Haggarty contract was taken. The Rangers were the only team willing to burn that year of the contract. But I have a feeling that Slats was bidding against himself, as the kid grew up a Rangers fan and that's where he wanted to go.

ColoradoMark


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:47 am EST

On Fast- Didn't think he was supposed to be as "fast" as Hagelin (other than the name). I don't think he could replace Hags, even though they are similar. It's been a while since his cup of coffee, so we'll see.

ColoradoMark


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:43 am EST

Mess: I don't think Haggerty or his agent were thinking he would defiantly get any game time. This was purely a money move. He burns one year of his entry level deal, that means he can negotiate over that entry level cap a year sooner. If he agreed to sign a deal that started next year and signed a PTO with the Pack he would have had a full year more to burn.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:37 am EST

Personally, I think this team is going to be a good playoff team. I think there are two major differences between this team and the teams of the Torts era: 1. Balanced scoring. Kreider being gone sucks, but even with that, we have potential scoring threats on every line. MSL has had no impact, but I can't believe he won't be there when it counts. Rangers of the past were lucky to have one scoring line and virtually no scoring on the three "checking lines." This team has three scoring lines and a checking line of interchangeable parts that can grind down the opposition shift after shift. 2. Special Teams: Yeah, the power play sucks again right now, but the confidence they showed before the Olympics gives me hope that I haven't had since, er, forever. I can't believe that it is Del Zotto that is the difference in our power play (although the timing of our power play woes and the PP minutes per goal ratio he had seems to point to that). But Klein over Del Zotto has improved everything else and who would think that our PK would be even better since Callahan's departure? I think our overall team play is built for the playoffs because we are defensively sound with offensive potential and the King in net. Pittsburgh and Boston are the class of the East, but I don't think a matchup against either of those teams is futile. I also find the team a lot more exciting to watch on most nights than the Torts era.The shot-blocking, fighting black'n'blue shirts were fun for a while, but after a while you just get injuries and worn out players in the playoffs. Ramble over

ColoradoMark


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:36 am EST

I wonder how Haggerty is taking the permanent press-boxing this season. Im sure his agent thought he was on to something by stipulating that Haggerty couldn't be sent down. Maybe they thought this would force them to ice him for a few games. Did they consider that Haggerty could be sat the entire time? That Boyle, Carcillo get shots at top-lines, that Miller and Fast get called up ahead of him? Will he resent Sather or AV if this doesn't work out the way he and his agent intended? And what happens when he finally reports to Hartford?

Messier11


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:25 am EST

I think Fast coming up means that AV regards the fourth liners on the upper three lines experiment a failure. It also probably means that he doesn't think Haggerty is ready. One of them may sit next game.

Messier11


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:23 am EST

RF4L: As for the size thing, don't know about Fast...but Hags is that size, and he is a solid dude. If you have seen pictures of him out of uniform, and in a t-shirt or on the beach like I saw one, dud is ripped. I remember reading about him in college, and his team mates talked about him never leaving the weight room, and being a fitness fanatic. So while he isn't a big player he isn't small either. 1 inch away from 6 foot and his 176 is all muscle...it snot like he is not strong and smaller, he is just really well conditioned and strong. Hopefully Fast is similar, I have always seen them as being 5'11" for both of them, Fast was skinny as all hell early on, hopefully he has put on a few pounds. Because with hags being a LW and Fast a RW they could really be 2/3 of a great 3rd line. Both are good int heir own zone, both can move up and down the ice with speed nearly impossible to match, get rid of BRich(I would say keep him but he is too much of a future cap risk) and get a better 3rd line center (or get a top center and bump someone down) and you have a shut down line than can transition quickly and really put a hurt on teams. Will get a look at that possibility next game hopefully.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:17 am EST

RF what are coaches going to bitch about if he makes a mistake he recovers and that's the problem he isn't learning from the mistake down there because the mistake doesn't happen. When he is at the NHL level he is making that mistake and pays the price where he has to learn. The other problem I see with him being in the AHL and it's building a false sense of confidence is the speed of the game and the speed at which the D reads the play in the NHL compared to the AHL. He is afforded more time at the AHL level which gives him more time to think and read the play, but when moved to the NHL level his time to think and read is reduced by about 50% and that causes the mistakes he makes, as Wild said he shoots from further out because he is not anticipating the D to close the distance so quick and he's being forced to take shots he wouldn't take at the NHL level. I also think his shot a the AHL level is better because of the weaker goalies which again allows him to score from places he may not score from at the NHL level. I think at this point you leave the kid down for the season, it's too late now to do anything but he needs to be with this team next season and not in the AHL otherwise you are just building a future AHL veteran who could fill in on a call up.

York18


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:16 am EST

Hagelin-Richards-Fast out together in practice...YIKES how would you like to defend that speed? The only think worse would be one for them at center with Kreider instead of Richards.....but still, cant miss a step with those two wingers on the ice, would be a 2 on 1 or 2 on 0 in a heartbeat.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:14 am EST

York: Defiantly understand the "same buy different" situation. many many players like that in the NHL. You can compare a couple guys, but easily point out differences that make one better than the other one way, and the other guy better in a different way....but overall they are the "same"

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:12 am EST

RF4L: I don't think its "official" yet, but the pack would need a miracle to make the post season. I think part of the problem with Miller is hinted at by AV and his public comments (and I think those were part of a plan to try to change Millers mindset) Miller I think is not WILLING to do what is needed. He isn't willing to do that hard work on the ice for the less fun D stuff, and I don't think he has been willing to do the work off ice, like sitting with the video coaches for extra hours to try and figure out the issues with his game. If that's the case, I hope he grows up soon, and perhaps again, that's why AV went public with it, to really let him know there is a limit on how many chances you get at the NHL level.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 10:00 am EST

Wild: I keep hearing that argument (re Miller is too good for the AHL and a result is developing bad habits down there). If it's true, then 1) why aren't the Pack coaches getting on his case - stop doing the 'easy' stuff 2) why isn't Miller getting it, why isn't he realizing what he's doing in the AHL isn't working at the NHL level? Maybe it's as simple as he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer? There are tons of players who excel at certain levels but are unable to adjust at higher level because they simply can't figure out how to do that. Or maybe he just needs more time at the AHL level. Some players do well moving up and down like he has while others don't. Last year he played for 3 teams (Rangers, Whale and US juniors) but only produced at the US juniors offensively. This year it's the Pack and the Rangers but there's definite progress in that he's now able to produce at the AHL level reasonably consistently. Leave him there to finish the season - maybe he'll manage to lead the Pack into a couple of PO rounds. That would be invaluable, I suspect, to his confidence and development.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:50 am EST

RF4L: I think a big part of his problem is being in the AHL. It might sound crazy, and usually I feel the opposite, but he is building bad habits in the AHL instead of breaking them. His skill level is such that he isn't challenged by the D there, and while that build confidence in some ways, it causes him to think he can beat defenders in the NHL 1 on 1 and he shoots from further out than he did when he first played in the NHL....its like the AHL goalies let goals in from above the circles, and while he has time in the NHL at times to skate in 3-5 more feet even he shoots quicker...and NHL goalies have the ability to react to those shots, if he was closer he would have a better chance, and he used to do that, almost to the point of OVER holding the puck waiting to shoot. The other thing is he can get back and defend so much more easily. The skill at the AHL level is not the same as the NHL, The 3rd and 4th line players at the NHL level are playing on the top lines in the AHL, so when Miller is in the NHL his defensive issues shine, and his skill cant overcome poor position or decision making. Being in the AHL is seemingly making it worse or not helping at all. IMHO Miller needs to follow Cooke's lead...not the same but not so different. I read an article about Cooke, after that last suspension he had publicly said he wasn't trying to hit the guy in the head and most people were like "yeah right...whatever" But if you watched the film of the hit, he has a shocked look on his face the entire time. After that hit, i think the fact that he wasn't trying to hurt anyone and still did, and then the team basically said "stop it or you don't play" and he saw his career going *poof* he decided to take action. He had the video team of the PENs build him like 100 or 200 hours of video of hits, his bad ones, his good ones, other players bad and good. In fact they highlighted Oshie and Callahan among others to show him how to play hard but not get penalties. He watched and re-watched video every day the entire off season and rented ice time and brought in players to set up scrimmage type things for him to relearn how to approach hits, and everything. The guy busted his butt to reshape himself as a player, and it worked...when was the last time he hit a guy dirty and dangerous? So how does that lead help Miller? Miller needs to watch video of every defensive mistake he has made, along with a video showing what he should have done. He needs to get on the ice with other players to practice moving without the puck, keeping in the proper lanes, running guys off into the boards all that stuff. He needs to spend as much time doing that as he does working out, and he needs to make this off season about coming to camp as a guy who could play on the 3rd line in a shutdown role. Not that he has to get to that 2 way level, but if that is his goal, he will come in as a Center or Wing who could play in all situations. If he doesn't do that, recover the 2015 first round pick, trade him for the highest 1st rounder you can get, even if you need to add a 2nd rounder or another mid level guy.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:44 am EST

I just checked both Hagelin and Fast's stats - according to http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=127581 Fast is 6' and 180 while Hags is 5'11" and 175. Trumped up figures??? I thought both were smaller than that.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:40 am EST

WILD the problem is I think people think Hags should be like a 30 goal scorer with his speed, I think people kind of want an Amonte like player in terms of what they expect production wise from him and I don't think that is what he would ever be. Fast being called a Hags with better hands and scoring? I don't know about that one. I don't see Fast being that much better then Hags, I think he makes Hags expendable in a trade as they are very similar players. Fast had a slow start adjusting to the smaller ice surface but started to come on, what I like about him compared to Hags is he finds the open lane and goes to the net. Hags is starting to figure that out but is more known for his board work and the pressure he puts on puck carriers via his speed. I find them both to be very comparable to each other similar but different if that makes sense.

York18


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:31 am EST

RF4L: I don't know if any of the people here who follow the WolfPack can chime in, but I have heard a lot of stuff about Fast being "Haglin with better hands" or something along those lines. Now I dont know if that is true, or even with "better hands" he will score as much as Hags has started to show he can ( on pace for 18g, 17a, 35pts 0.49 ppg) Now if he can play to that level, the Rangers can put one of them on the 3rd line (next year or if injuries this year) and have the other in the top 6 OR one of them can be moved to improve that top 6 wing position, or Center position.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:27 am EST

Wild: Yeah, could be. It may be what you just touched on - want an additional roster player and they've decided Miller isn't the answer right now and they'll keep him in Hartford until the Pack season is over (which is what I kept saying they should do - let him dominate down there for a long stretch (ie the entire season) - this kid has been on a yo-yo since his final year of junior 2 years ago and clearly going up and down with the Rangers isn't helping him.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:24 am EST

Dont know if anyone has seen the Blues-AVS stuff brewing. 120 minutes in misconducts in the 3rd period alone Saturday (or Friday the weekend anyway) Roy and Hitchcock are going back and forth in the press conferences. I really hope those two meet in the playoffs...would be a fun nasty series to watch.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:22 am EST

RF4L: I am betting AV wants to try to increase the overall skill level. Take one of Dorsett or Carcilo out. Just a guess, also they may want to get him in some more games and see him after he has seemingly figured most of it out at the AHL level so they know what they have in case they need someone for the playoffs...because I don't think it will be Miller. That or there is someone who is sick, or has some nagging injury that we haven't heard about. But we may know more at 11 eastern when they skate...but I think its due to Fast being versatile and fast, meaning speed wise, and has more skill than Carcillo who has been playing in the top 6 (top 9 depending on how you feel about the lines)

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:21 am EST

I was looking at the Pack stats yesterday - Fast has done quite well there, especially lately. Seems to have figured out how to produce offensively at that level. Can he translate that to the NHL level? Now, that would be great. It might make Hagelin expendable....

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:21 am EST

RF4L No, because in something the rest of us like to call reality I'm not wrong. In RF4Land where you are the king, mayor, and court jester, well you're slowly becoming the court jester here as well, or should I say fool, I know you are never wrong. Like I said answer the facts, oh wait you can't well not with anything that resembles facts just opinion. Our PP should be better because I say so, everyone has better fill in the blank because I say so, that's all your arguments have in terms of what you would call merit. Thanks for coming out now you can go back to your regularly scheduled crying for a fan that doesn't even watch the team 75% of the time.

York18


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:16 am EST

Wild: Who is he replacing? Is someone injured?

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:15 am EST

Oh and that's per the Rangers official account

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:14 am EST

According to Twitter Fast has been called up.

Wildcard


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:14 am EST

Hey, guys. Just wanted to touch base. Had a great time at the Pepsi Center game and was pumped to talk about it despite the loss, but I kind of lost the mood when I came on the wall and saw at least two people trashing Richards. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I wish he wasn't constantly the whipping boy for some people. I'm bummed he has to be bought out, but it will be a relief when I don't have to hear about how much he sucks every time I go on the wall. Anyway, a few days late but here are my thoughts: It was awesome seeing all the Ranger fans at the Pepsi Center. I saw everything from Lundqvist and McDonough to Sandstrom, Gretzky and (sadly) Callahan jerseys. (Even another Richards jersey besides mine! And someone had a Winter Classic Granato jersey!). Ranger fans were loud, injecting some life into the building that was dead until the final minute of the game. Avs fans are fickle, and seeing the building with more people there than usual was fun. I went down to the glass during warmups and my daughter was excited when Brad noticed me and waved. It was cool. The team played pretty well for the most part. John Moore set the tone early and was excellent throughout. I liked Diaz. St. Louis seems to be struggling with his stick. If I were his coach I would make him cut down his stick, but who am I to criticize a guy who has scored more goals than any other Ranger. ANyway, what impressed me about St. Louis was his communication on the ice. He was constantly talking to his teammates and his (intriguing) PK (or 4-4) unit with Zuccarello demonstrated this. I was excited to see three of my favorite players take the shoot out (even though they failed). It's funny that the same people that will ridicule a guy like Richards for blowing a shootout attempt are the same ones that say "big deal" he scored in a skills competition!). The team needed McDonough for sure. Varly was excellent and I think he wins the Vezina and Roy wins the Adams. This Avs team is excellent and will only get better. They've been built the same way the Nordiques did it in the late 80's and early 90's, tanking, picking up high draft picks and making good trades (Shattenkirk was an excellent player to give up, but Erik Johnson looked big, smooth and intimidating.). OF course an idiot Av's fan in his Forsberg jersey in front of me was mad that we were rooting for the Rangers, so he informed us that he grew up in New York and the Rangers were always "One and Done" and thats why he was now an Avs fan. Anyway, Zuccarello was awesome (I stayed out of the "I discovered Zucc" war a few months back, but I never saw why people didn't think he was worth signing. The guy brings excitement every shift. WILDCARD- I forgot to tell you I was going. I wonder if we saw each other without realizing it as Ranger fans were high-fiving each other all night long. Sorry for this jumbled post, but I wanted to write something before it was completely irrelevant. Okay, maybe it already is, but thanks for humoring me. I didn't get to see Brad after the game, but I'm hoping to talk to him at some point.

ColoradoMark


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:03 am EST

York: Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 9:01 am EST

RF4L Yup I'm always wrong when it comes to you, I'm wrong that you made statements about AHL teams stacked with top two line talent and had nothing to back it up, I was wrong when I said we had a lot of good talent in Jrs and you said that doesn't count because it's a maybe and then you started pointing to teams and using their Jr players as examples, I was wrong about us having a top 8 that slipped to 13 PP and how you are on here spouting BS saying our PP sucks and needs everything you said it did. I'm always wrong when it comes to you and your BS it seems, or maybe I'm right because you spout a lot of BS. You are a hypocrite and I'll prove it once again, you bitch and moan about the Flyers and how they play but want the Rangers to play that type of game, so it's okay for the Rangers but not anyone else? You have watched 1/4 of this teams games by your own admission but you're on here bitching daily multiple times like you are watching every game and know what the problems are more BS. You claim that others myself included can't admit when they are wrong, while you do nothing but that. You have been so wrong lately that you just ignore anything that asks you to prove what you are saying you have become so delusional you just throw away facts if they don't agree with your fantasy. I'll ask you again if we are missing all those things to have a good PP then explain the other dozen and a half teams that are behind us, I think you have been watching the Oilers all season and thing you're watching the Rangers, or maybe you wish we went the Oilers route and had all these young draft picks and sucked then you could be happy and we would honestly suck and you would really have something to bitch about.

York18


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:16 am EST

BTW, Buffalo had John Scott dressed - that obviously, meant little to Rinaldo, which supports what some are arguing on here about what a goon/no goon means. IMO, the biggest problem facing the Flyers will be their intent to intimidate and the resulting possible injuries/physical wear down that is sure to occur over a PO series.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:07 am EST

Gawd, I hate the Flyers, led by that piece of typical Flyers shit Rinaldo. Look at this head shot from yesterday: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/zac-rinaldo-020611171.html. Asshole.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 8:01 am EST

From the games I've seen (about 1/4 of them), I think MZA definitely warrants consideration for best player on the team. So does, of course, Ryan McDonagh. And even with his slow start, the King is up there, too.

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 7:57 am EST

York: Wrong again!

RF4L


Mon Apr 7 2014 7:32 am EST

York....thought about it and agree he had some rough spots, but if I imagine this season without Hank on the team and Talbot carrying the load I don't see us in the same position.

MelvilleFred


Mon Apr 7 2014 7:22 am EST

MFred, you really think hank should get MVP he played like shite the first few months, had Talbot playing above him, and in actuality Talbot though getting less starts of course has outplayed Hank on many a night. MZA before breaking his hand was doing a damn good job of carrying this team IMO this is the one time where I do think someone other then Hank should get the MVP, usually I would say Hank gets it hands down 99% of the time.

York18


Mon Apr 7 2014 7:21 am EST

mfred probably because these ceremonies should be after the game not before them.....or maybe have them a half hour before, not to interrupt warm-ups or delay the start of a game when guys are suppose to be mentally preparing.....I don't think hank has had a trophy year......that does not imply he's had a bad year......

stevielegs


Mon Apr 7 2014 7:02 am EST

stevielegs.....I think Hank has to get MVP but MZA get's the Stephen McDonald award.....and why do we generally play like crap when that award is given?!

MelvilleFred


Mon Apr 7 2014 6:31 am EST

RF4L It makes perfect sense. See the problem is your posts are negative 98% of the time. The thing I find more disturbing is that it seems like you want this team to fail just so you can be right. You make stupid statements ignoring facts and the truth and come on here banging your chest like you're correct when you are wrong. You were wrong about the prospects thing and the AHL, you are wrong about our PP, oh wait our PP is hurting because we don't have a PPQB, or a number one center, blah blah blah, we were 8th in the league for about 80% of the season, we are 13th now, what does that say about what the other teams behind us need if we are missing that much? You ignored that question, out PK is better our team is playing better, this team had a rough start as I an a few others predicted due to the system change and the road trek they took. This team would be sitting a lot higher if that wasn't the case but that's neither here, nor there. You just come here to bitch you don't watch half the games by your own admission and you post nothing but negative comments and hope this team losses just so you can be right and even when you are wrong you come on posting as if you are right, what's stupid is someone who does what you do and then calls themselves a fan. Sather may not be the best GM but there are certainly worse over his tenure. IMO his worst deals he has made have been the Nash and MSL deals but he's still icing a winning team, he makes up for the lost picks with UFA college kids that other teams covet so time will tell how bad off we are in a couple years but bitching about it constantly is not going to change what happens, nor predict it.

York18


Mon Apr 7 2014 5:57 am EST

candidates for press mvp, and/or S McDonald award?.....mza, mac d,....hank? prince?......tie to the m&m.......

stevielegs


Mon Apr 7 2014 5:36 am EST

Just a slight reminder Big Mac was a first round pick.... Bring him up for the last 3 already ... Want to lose more than Macd ? .... Almost lost Staal ...stop this Diaz has to play nonsense... They have already falked themselves ....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 7 2014 5:29 am EST

What did great Scott do to the Cryers?... Absolutely nothing? Say it again..... Looks like what neil was hoping to do to Staal ....http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/06/video-zac-rinaldo-booted-for-intent-to-injure-match-penalty/

stevielegs


Sun Apr 6 2014 10:45 pm EST

York: Well DUH, of course I believe in what I post. That question makes no sense.

RF4L


Sun Apr 6 2014 8:34 pm EST

Unlike us Flyers taking care of business at home vs a lesser opponent....Up 4-0 over Sabres in third....Devils get no help as Jackets blank Fishsticks 4-0......

PJ


Sun Apr 6 2014 8:19 pm EST

Animals ... And he knows how to be one....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:51 pm EST

stevie -- Santa Esmerelda or The Animals?

JFC31


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:47 pm EST

Please

stevielegs


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:46 pm EST

That's what happens when you are living in the past.... " I'm just soul who's intentions are good, oh lord don't let me be misunderstood"....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:40 pm EST

Torts is reportedly also trying to sell the Vancouver front office on 2014's shortcomings, and has spread the word that 2004 is a season that understands him

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 6:33 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2014/04/06/blueshirts-powerless-again-on-power-play/

stevielegs


Sun Apr 6 2014 5:44 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2014/04/06/nypd-fdny-get-into-massive-brawl-at-charity-hockey-game/

mf


Sun Apr 6 2014 5:35 pm EST

Per Brooks: Torts is trying to sell Vancouver front office on Gillis' shortcomings, and has spread the word that Jay Feaster is a GM who understands him

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 3:17 pm EST

You know your team is not tough enough when your toughest guy is 5'7 ,,,,,,MZA has been a blast to watch this year,,,gutsy little guy MSL is still not playing up to par but the media gives him a pass because he is a nice guy,,,,F that,,,,,We need a tough guy,,,,Im sick of pussy hockey,,,,,,,,we are the biggest bunch of sissys,,,,,,,,,,

thedugster


Sun Apr 6 2014 3:11 pm EST

nyr had a day off today , sort of. to watch videos and listened to few lectures. ....how not to score on the pp, not to let the other team take a penalty, not to drop the gloves, how to hit but not too hard, and how to keep your gloves on and turn the other cheek......and not to question the refs except to say ' did you see the penalty you should have called on us'.....they will practice these and more tomorrow including how to back into the playoffs and not get home ice advantage....which just might be an advantage....and make sure they are communicating all of this to the wolf pack......oh and the 4th line is scratched from practice after 2/3 over....their services are not needed in the last 1/3 of games....and not to leave the pk out , they will stop trying to get shorthanded goals since msl left the zone with 55 seconds left even though there wasn't really a pk, just a pulled goalie, so don't try to ice it and possibly score when leading by 1 goal ....make it interesting until the final buzzer...go for the tie, don't score in ot, and the shootout will be added if time permits.....they are also looking for a volunteer to tell Falk the reason he's not playing is because he would probably get into a fight......they will consult with dickaletti and his puppet partner the nose on how to make the other team play like they should win the cup since they have so much more talent than the nyr.... feel free to add your suggestions because lb is reading and feeding these ideas to the genius......so they can blame anything negative on the Wall.......

stevielegs


Sun Apr 6 2014 3:07 pm EST

For short-handed goals, we've gone from 7th to 2nd.

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 3:03 pm EST

Funny thing about this retaliation stuff..............I've been getting a little soft on this stuff of late. agreeing with most people that the age of "the goon" is over and all that. BUT, these last two incidents with McDonagh and Staal has really got my blood boiling. I think most teams , if not all, know they can take liberties with this team like no other........and that sucks! We have got to start getting tougher like Boston....not fighters per say,but guys who will drop 'em when it calls for and be damed to the score and who it hurts.................just sayin'...............

Newfie_Ranger


Sun Apr 6 2014 3:02 pm EST

Also, PK is 5th in the league. Last season? 15th.

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 12:21 pm EST

RF4L I wonder if you honestly believe the crap you post the PP was top 8 prior to the Olympic break but now that it has slipped to 13th you're going to post? You honestly just come on to bitch and act like you're right even when facts say you're wrong. I guess the other dozen and a half teams or so behind us are missing even more then that since they are worse then us..............amd anyone who says this team can't win when zucc is the best player on the ice is not only stupid but doesn't know hockey. Zucc was this teams leading scorer till he got injured and was leading this team and one of the better PPs I'm the league and we were winning.........and for all you doom and gloom guy if we didn't have the rough start learning a new system and spending a month on the road we would actually more then likely be one of the top teams in the league but then there would be nothing to bitch about. You can now go back to your regularly scheduled whine and bitch fest and the constant negativity because the truth is I don't think any of you would post if this team was the best in the league.

York18


Sun Apr 6 2014 11:31 am EST

well you can always revert to the wild theory of take the pp.....and the other wild theory you don't need a pp to win.....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 6 2014 11:01 am EST

So it's been crappy recently, and other times stellar. Currently 13th. Clearly better than last season's by any definition

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 10:46 am EST

Mess check out their pp over the last 10 games.... It's playing like the 27 th.... The losses would have been wins if the pp scored 1 per loss...

stevielegs


Sun Apr 6 2014 10:42 am EST

The "crappy PP" is 13th in the league. the Canucks' is 27th.

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 10:40 am EST

Yep if Big Mac learns to keep his gloves on then he can play on the nyr where it has become an art form .... It's been renamed to wild theory .... Guess arneil got some pointers from sullyerella and veenyo borrowed the talkerella book .... Part of me wishes they don't make the playoffs especially if veenyo thinks hockey is cerebral only.... Maybe someday sather and company will figure it out instead of trying to take advantage of luck...and hank....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 6 2014 9:04 am EST

And what's with the crappy PP? I thought the Rangers had a crappy PP because Tortorella doesn't know how to coach a PP??? Oh wait, maybe it's the lack of a true PP d-man, a true number 1 center and a true power winger that's the problem? Mmmm....I wonder....

RF4L


Sun Apr 6 2014 9:02 am EST

Zucc is the only guy who plays the game fearlessly. Neil took that run, just like Burrrows on Mac, just like Lucic on Nash, Neil on Boyle in playoffs. BECAUSE THERE IS NO PRICE TO BE PAID! You think the refs are gonna help you? This is the NHL boys- nobody helps you but yourselves. What do you want- a power play? Richards and co. Wouldn't score on it anyway. Good teams settle their own scores. The Bruins would have jumped Neil and kicked his ass. That's what you do. You don't retaliate- that makes you weak. Teams know it- and you won't last.

puckyou


Sun Apr 6 2014 8:55 am EST

If memory serves, Carcillo got a coincidental roughing call two or three games ago

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 8:55 am EST

BTW, McI had a fight last night (he won), but hasn't been dropping the gloves as much lately, which I think is a good thing. He's proven his merit that way down there and shouldn't be fighting all the time. Yeah, for sure step up for a teammate when needed, but it looks like he's stopped taking on all challengers. I sure hope he's getting close to being ready - he is more needed now than ever.

RF4L


Sun Apr 6 2014 8:52 am EST

RJ: Neutered by AV and company? Who knows. The answer to this shit is playing regularly with the Pack.

RF4L


Sun Apr 6 2014 8:47 am EST

Whatever happened to Carcillo the scumbag? Carcillo used to be like Neil. Now, I guess he's only on the team because of his skill and speed. Has he even gotten a roughing minor since the Rangers traded for him?

RJ


Sun Apr 6 2014 8:42 am EST

Not only was the Neil hit in Staal way late, it was also a freakin' CHARGE....he came across from center ice in a straight line right at Staal. And if Zuccarello doesn't win the "Extra Effort" award this year, then the award has no credibility. This guy has done everything right this year....he's never taken a game off. Yeah, he's had some blah games, but they weren't from lack of effort. He came flying in last night and knocked that POS Neil backwards with a good, strong hit after he hit Staal. Then Staal came in to protect Zucc from Neil. That's the kind of stuff that builds a team....Zucc gets it. And he's helping show the way. Steven McDonald Extra Effort Award....Mats Zuccarello.

JFC31


Sun Apr 6 2014 8:40 am EST

Didn't see the game BTW, but to no surprise, I see that yet again a Ranger is run/cheap-shotted. What was the response, other than the guy who got run actually fights that complete asshole Neil? Gawd, the Flyers are gonna KILL the Rangers in round one physically. It'll be very ugly.

RF4L


Sun Apr 6 2014 8:33 am EST

Rhet: Everyone knows my view on the MSL trade and it is (was) clearly a view shared by few. And from the outset I've been clear (I think) in saying my criticism has little to do with the player - instead it's the stupidity of giving up 2 high picks, especially when has been tossing away picks in the past few years like a drunken sailor. Now, the board is starting to question MSL the player, which given his results as a Ranger, is understandable. It's funny, after the first half dozen games, MSL and the trade supports were saying 'don't judge so quickly, he'll help the team finish higher in the standings'. Now, as he continues to be amazingly ineffective, it's ''don't judge so quickly, he'll help the team in the POs'. Ug - why am anticipating, in a couple of weeks 'relax, he'll help the team next year.' I'm not blaming you for your stance - just making a point. If this guy doesn't turn things around, it'll go down, IMO, as one of Sather's worse deals as a Ranger (and that's saying something).

RF4L


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:50 am EST

To date, Mashinter has managed six games with Chicago, averaging about 4:30 per. Its not that a fighter has to score like Gretzky, its that with today's roster limitations and the speed of the game, you need to roll four lines, and you need those lines to be able to play at least 8:00 or your top lines will be gassed. in the third.

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:46 am EST

seriously- 'who cares?' if we can top Montreal? Are you the same guys that complain about the Rangers not playing with heart? Maybe they're just playing to the fan base.

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:45 am EST

thats a possibility. TB also. Why wouldn't anyone not take the advantage, if given, over a possible opponent? Furthermore, why wouldn't anyone not want to be higher in the standings?

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:44 am EST

Gene the problem is that any time the Rangers bring in a tough guy he either suddenly becomes a pacifist monk or ages 50 years in two days and breaks down and can't play. While we are talking on this subject explain to me why a Haley or a Mashinter (before traded) could not be such a player for us? It is like the Rangers NEED the enforcer types to also score like Gretzky or they don't belong with the big club. Also they never seem to let these types go and run amok when it is called for. Like it is some corporate decision so as to not scare away the family types ticket holders.

NYStranger


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:38 am EST

Mess the re- seading does not work that way. The only way that will come into play is if NY and Montreal meet in the confrence finals. Doubtful

NYStranger


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:32 am EST

Clearly Michelleti is the worst color guy I have suffered going back to Sal Marchiano(when you got away games on Channel 9. Sam is tired and needs to retire. I do not know whether it is league wide contempt for Dolan or Sather but if we are going to Toronto we will not get the call 90% of the time and the refs have been brutal in their imbalance relative to the Rangers. There must be some toughness added to this lineup. When Zucc is the scrappiest guy on the team, and by a long shot, something must be done.

gene_carr


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:21 am EST

Who cares about winning anymore?

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 7:20 am EST

MC 1- bragging rights. 2- home ice when being re-seeded.

Messier11


Sun Apr 6 2014 5:54 am EST

The only check marks the nyr have today are the ones they took last night. And the ones on carcillo's ass from sitting on the bench in the 3 rd period. Guess the coach forgot his 4 th lines' contribution that is needed past present and future. And what other 4 th lines have done to the nyr in the past. Time to insert falk since Klein is now another d man who's fights were on his former team. And waiting for the wild theory of beating them on the pp means the pp has to score, and that ain't happening .... Time to eat their wheaties , the breakfast of champions..... Not cereal serial killers .... Wrong aisle.....insert the prince since they now have lost two in a row that they should have won. Unless you believe dickaletti ..... What sack of bs that guy is....and the nose is spineless ....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 6 2014 12:50 am EST

Kis-Totally agree, I am so tired of Rangers turning the other cheek. How many friggin years have we let teams push us around without a response. Mess- Who the hell cares if we pass Montreal? It means nothing to us. If we are in second or third in the Met Division, we will never see Montreal. So who cares what they are doing?

MC


Sat Apr 5 2014 11:55 pm EST

Stevielegs .......Beer still on the shelf....let's hope you get it soon.....

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 5 2014 11:54 pm EST

At this point, We would have to win all three remaining games (including the final one against Montreal) in order to top Montreal in the standings for third. They would have to lose all three of their remaining games. More realistic for us to pass TB for fourth with a single win, though they have a game in hand and their remaining opponents are: Toronto, Philly, Columbus, Washington.

Messier11


Sat Apr 5 2014 10:18 pm EST

If I understand this new playoff shit correctly.....the Rangers will need to beat Philly.....then Pittsburgh, then Boston then Blues/Sharks/Ducks/or Kings to win the Stanley Cup. Hah

TradeStar28


Sat Apr 5 2014 10:03 pm EST

And Zucc is a freakin' throwback to how the game should be played.....He came in and leveled Neil.....I swear, the Rangers staff must put Crazy Glue or Gorilla glue in the players gloves before the game and then duct tape the fuckin things on because they don't come off when need be

TradeStar28


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:59 pm EST

When Neil that bastard was in the penalty box after getting away with murder he was jawing at Staal....and he must have been talking like an animal because Staal said to Neil, "Nice mouth"

TradeStar28


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:57 pm EST

Late hit by Neil on Staal.....How the fuck do the refs not call a penalty on that.....These refs are goddamn jokes....This league is a big fuckin joke.....If it wasn't bad enough that he hit Staal late....it was a hit to the head.....If i was staal I woulda tomahawked Neils head off.....All i know is that AV must take Xanax, Valium and Colonopan before every game because he keeps his cool.....He should have been tossing the sticks, the bench, gatorade bottles and the Rangers trainer onto the ice when the Rangers came out short handed

TradeStar28


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:19 pm EST

Pussies

puckyou


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:15 pm EST

At the game good atmosphere Bad loss

jim9k26


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:11 pm EST

And I don't know but MLS has that look of someone who found and got into some long lost stash of Theo Fleury's coke.

NYStranger


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:07 pm EST

No, AV should have played Moore, Carcillo, and Dorsett as many shifts as possible after the scrum. Try and run Karlson. To hell with the score. But hey, we are in the friendly, PC, family oriented, metro-sexual, mangina filled, Madison Square Garden. Lets go and bake a fucking cake!

NYStranger


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:03 pm EST

Pp continues to not score... Decline the penalty... Hank 12-19 vs Ottawa ... Why not play the prince veenyo ?... Guess you missed that stat... Thanks ref you get the game winning goal for never intending to blow the whistle because you can't see the puck nor find your mouth or ass with 2 hands to do it:..:

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:01 pm EST

I've said this before and I will say it again...Can't win games when Mats Zuccarello is your best offensive player. This happens way to often. This ream will never win a Cup with this line-up because our "big" goal scorers don't score big goals. When players like Zucc play well it is supposed to be an added bonus not carry a team.

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:00 pm EST

Rhet, I was for the deal but MSL sucks for the Rangers and the picks only make it worse. If the Rangers didn't want to sign cally for that amount of money they should have let him walk and use the money on a better younger tougher player. Now they have no picks they are paying money and annouther shrimp who cant score. plus he is fuckin old

KIS


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:58 pm EST

The problem with this teams make up is that there are not enough guys with the size and skill to win the tough puck battles which are needed come playoff time. IMO this is the reason we are not scoring enough goals even though we should have enough scoring talent. Who is going into the corners and come out with the puck on the Stepan/Nash line? Same with Richards/ MSL line. AV is trying all sorts of combos on the other wing but so far not so good. The only line which is working has been the Brass line. It is too bad Pouliot is not a little bit more coordinated..he could be a beast if he was.

NYStranger


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:57 pm EST

Why is Staal called for a double minor? Take 2 punches while down from shit neil?

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:57 pm EST

well I dont agree with anybody on here who thinks the Ranger organization doesn't have to address the need for a Goon as so many of you wanna call them. they are not a goon, it is there role. as long as the rangers have Zucc being the first guy who stick up for a player they will keep getting beat up. the Nhl has figured the best way to beat the Rangers is by manhandling them. you wanna say what good did it do to have Brassard sent off the ice and retaiation only got them a man down. fuck it!!! lose a battle to win a war. the Rangers get no respect around the league. this is the umpteenth time somebody should have been carring teeth off the ice. The Rangers should have been throwing the puck into Kahrlson's end and having people smash the shit out of him. when Neal pulls that shit, after the face off somebody should have got an ass kicking. this can't keep going on. I don't care what any of you say its called team dynamics and psychology.

KIS


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:50 pm EST

Excuse me. I have to go puke.

RJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:49 pm EST

Oh well nothing easy with this team....They deserved to lose this game....Can't spot teams two goals....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:46 pm EST

Nhl refs stink

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:45 pm EST

Sens will be allowed to do anything in last minute....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:43 pm EST

I am baffled how Staal get's a double minor.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:43 pm EST

So they end the game by giving the Sens the PP....What a fucking joke....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:41 pm EST

Neal pulls more shit and gets away with it again

NYStranger


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:41 pm EST

Well, the Rangers finally stuck up for one of their teammates. Hopefully it carries over.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:41 pm EST

Michelletti says it was close to being a late hit?....Get this fucking asshole off the Rangers broadcast....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:39 pm EST

F the game now....Break Neil's skull....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:39 pm EST

TO losing 4-2 but Devils won 3-1.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:38 pm EST

Dorsett should have played more in this period....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:35 pm EST

Did anyone else see that blatant hold non-call in the Sens zone?

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:34 pm EST

I guess tackling is ok....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:34 pm EST

I didn't like both picks we gave up in the St. Louis deak, but let's wait and see what MSL does in the postseason before we pass final judgement.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:32 pm EST

goalie interference... DRINK!

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:31 pm EST

On MSL. It is easy being a good or even great player in some backwater city, but it takes someone special to be able to come to NYC and do it. MSL has a lot of work to do if he wants to be a success in NY. But I fear that age is catching up and we again of course get a guy much too late im thier career. Oh well will the Rangers management ever learn?

NYStranger


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:27 pm EST

Have to cash in on this one....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:25 pm EST

RJ...Agree on MSL....He hasn't even been average....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:24 pm EST

Brassard did miss open net but too many passes IMO....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:22 pm EST

OMG

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:19 pm EST

St. Louis shows me nothing. Who would have thought that St. Louis for Callahan straight up and the Lightning would have gotten the better of that deal. To think they got two high draft picks also .....ugh.

RJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:58 pm EST

Nash driving me crazy with wild passes leading to rushes the other way....We need to be patient and we can win this game....Third forward a little higher for all of these big rebounds....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:52 pm EST

Goddamnit, if I have to hear the Canadian announcer say again, "I don't understand why that isn't goalie interference." when the Ranger player is being pushed into the goalie by the defenseman I'm going to reach through my computer and strangle him.

RJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:51 pm EST

I told everyone here that Zucc was a big time player shaped in a boys body.......I even told York like 100 times....He didn't listen.....Hehehe.....jk Yorkie : ) come back to the wall....bring ur boy , Hosposito

TradeStar28


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:48 pm EST

ZUCC IS SO SOFT, I CANT STAND IT!!!

Messier11


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:45 pm EST

TO is losing 3-2, Devils are winning 2-1

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:34 pm EST

Yeahhhh baby, there's still life left in this team!!! Zuuuuucccccccccccccc!!!!!

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:34 pm EST

Oh shut the f up you Fat bug eyed Walrus.....Nice Zucc.....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:34 pm EST

BAZOOKERELLA 2

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:34 pm EST

Dickaletti says good call ... Jerkoff puck was not visible ... Ref had to lose sight... Blow the whistle ... Dickaletti blows ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:32 pm EST

Michelletti is an idiot....Hank didn't knock that in....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:30 pm EST

Nash and MSL have to do something in this one....Getting to be ridiculous couting on everyone else to score....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:30 pm EST

Nash and MSL have to do something in this one....Getting to be ridiculous couting on everyone else to score....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:28 pm EST

Ref has X-ray vision so he can't lose sight like normal people .... Blows more than his whistle...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:27 pm EST

Nice turnover by Richards which led to that goal....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:25 pm EST

BAZOOKERELLA

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:24 pm EST

Zucccccccccccccccccc

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:24 pm EST

Turris pushed Brassard into the crease.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:13 pm EST

RJ :)

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:11 pm EST

Rhet - Don't use the bum.

RJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:10 pm EST

Need to get the next goal....Will bring crowd back in it....I didn't see this start coming but I guess I should have....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:10 pm EST

This isn't the time to put up a stinker. Go out there and clinch the playoff spot! And somebody needs to kick the shit out of Neil before this game is over.

RJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:07 pm EST

Stevie... We need TO/NJ to tie/lose tonight to back in.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:06 pm EST

Don Cherry seriously needs to consider retirement from Coaches corner.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:55 pm EST

Defensive coverage does not exist for the Rangers in this one....You can see the Sens plays developing and the Rangers are clueless....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:52 pm EST

As an added bonus we get to listen to that douche Michelletti talk about the Sens non stop....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:50 pm EST

Can they back in tonight or have to get a point?

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:49 pm EST

Wow....Nash didn't even get a shot off on a breakaway and we then lose a faceoff and bam...2-0....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:49 pm EST

The Ranger need to stop sticking /shooting the puck into the goalies pads.... 2-0.... wonderful.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:38 pm EST

Stevie.... Only if he were a Ranger.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:37 pm EST

That was goalie interference by hemsky

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:34 pm EST

Way too sloppy....Leaving Hank stranded too often....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:25 pm EST

Instead of stone hands (Boyle) with Richards and MSL, I'd rather see Carcillo.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:22 pm EST

Nash needs to get going tonight.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:18 pm EST

Crowd giving both the Canadian and USA anthems huge respect and seems very lively on the Saturday night game.....Lets go Rangers!

TradeStar28


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:01 pm EST

Let's Go Rangers....Get it done tonight....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 4:34 pm EST

Mfred I'm on Li once a week unless you want to come to nj.... Let's see who the sucker is first.. Bad luck to you I hope you lose again... Lol....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 3:41 pm EST

Great stories on The Wall today. For my son it is Baseball. He is 13 playing 14U travel ball. We are headed out for another tournament in a few minutes. I won't be around The Wall the rest of this weekend so LETS GO RANGERS!!!

Vic


Sat Apr 5 2014 3:32 pm EST

Good reading the stories on the Wall today....My son turns 30 this year and I would give anything to turn the clock back to the days of watching him play...Just the conversations we would have on the way to his hockey practice so early in the morning it was still dark....Cherish it guys as I have no idea where all the time went....

PJ


Sat Apr 5 2014 3:09 pm EST

With the Bruins win, we just needs to finnish the year half-decent to get home ice. Not bad considring the start of the season!!!

Ola


Sat Apr 5 2014 2:47 pm EST

Bruins beat Flyers 5-2. Let's make hay tonight...Go Rangers!

Ranger47


Sat Apr 5 2014 2:29 pm EST

Bruins taking care of flyers 4-2 late in the 3rd

tlats


Sat Apr 5 2014 1:19 pm EST

BTW, if all that plays out, I'd rather face the Wings. Pittsburgh with good goaltending (yeah, I know that's no guarantee, but if Fleury stinks again, it's the Wings who will advance) won't be easy. And they will be physical - the last thing the Rangers need is 2 consecutive series where they get physically pummelled. They are a better match up with the Wings, IMO.

RF4L


Sat Apr 5 2014 1:16 pm EST

Mfred: I've been doing lots of bitching on here about Sather's methods in trying to bring a cup to NY. No way, though, am I as convinced as you that they have no chance to get to the final 4. The road won't be easy - if things continue as they are now, the Rangers will open against the Flyers and then likely have to face in the next round, if they survive physically the Flyer series, the winner of Detroit and Pittsburgh. Neither foe will be easy and the Wings could be the dark horse in the east. They are playing well without a bunch of regulars, including their big 2. Some will return as the POs start and go on, meaning how good might they become?

RF4L


Sat Apr 5 2014 1:01 pm EST

Stevielegs....that's a sucker bet on your part.....and I'll take it. If Hospo wants his Beer he'll have to show himself on the WALL and claim it.....you haven't answered me yet as to where the winnings would have to go? IF they make it past the 2nd round!

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 5 2014 11:33 am EST

Mfred you owe my paisan Hospo too... I'll give you a chance to win it back.... How's they make past the second round? ....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 5 2014 10:28 am EST

jratelle19....had to scroll back to read it and well worth it....my Son played Football and Lacrosse in High School and LAX 1 year at Cortland. My wife and I and friends of ours ran the booster club......I loved every minute, gave us some of our best memories and we made lifelong friendships. As someone added....these truly are the important things in life and there are precious few of them.......

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 5 2014 10:22 am EST

Ola....I hear ya about the changing WALL....but still allot of people left and still good debates. It was just strange coming here relatively early on a Friday night and no one was posting especially about the Devils improbable WIN to help us out! Anyway....I'm bombarding Zipay and Brooks with get rid of Michiletti emails.....feel free to join in the fun.

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:22 am EST

jratelle: Thanks to you for bringing some reality to the board. BTW, remind me to tell you the story about the sparrow in the arena someday and yes, it involves my youngest, the one who can be quite distracted at times. He was 7 when it happened....

RF4L


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:13 am EST

JFC, RF4L: thanks for sharing your memories! I'm hitting the big 5-0 in June and I have an 8 year old boy and a 4 year old girl. As you can see, I became a dad a little late in life. And considering the fertility "experts" told us our chances were slim to none that we would have one, let alone two, I want to cherish these moments so much more. When the Rangers won in '94, I felt that seeing them win it once would have to last a lifetime, as Sam had said. Since being a dad, I have gotten a little greedy. I want to be able to watch them win another Cup, but I want to do it together with my kids! Everyone on this Wall, and I mean EVERYONE, shares a love and passion for not only the Rangers, but for this beautiful game that has given us such great memories. It is a pleasure to be able to have people like all of you to share it with, regardless of any disagreements and spats that may occur. You all have such great things to offer. Keep it going!

jratelle19


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:07 am EST

Guys great stories. thats what makes the wall great. I got to play with my dad in a summer league once. I was young and for the league and he was old but boy did we have fun. I was a good player but my dad was great as he once had a contract to play in serie a of Italy. Long story short it was a great fun and we both enjoyed the experience.

KIS


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:07 am EST

Same for JFC and RF.. Love that stuff. My boy is 10 and his game is B-Ball. Loves to watch the Rangers with me though. He's in an AAU Development program right now and he's doing quite well against mostly 11 and 12 yr olds. Every time he gets a bucket he looks right at me and pumps the fist. No showboating!

pa.rangersfan


Sat Apr 5 2014 9:02 am EST

jratell..Love it! Those are the stories that make this place what it really is at the end of the day.

pa.rangersfan


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:33 am EST

JCF: My eldest boy was burdened with the same issue. Not big, but a very good player. Puck distributor who sees the ice well and has a head for the game (2 those attributes usually go hand in hand). Too nice, too. My younger one played with more of an edge to his game and would hack and whack and retaliate if/when cheap-shoted. He made rep; my older one never did, try as he might. Now one is 24 and the other 20. Yes, time is precious.

RF4L


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:27 am EST

I forgot to finish my thought! So anyway, making the playoffs is harder than ever, only a few teams have clinched across the entire NHL and the most of those are in the West because it's so damned top heavy out there. Winning a single round is even tougher...again just the Kings and Rangers have done it 2 years in a row. We should be excited about that. Not complaining about things.

Wildcard


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:25 am EST

Great stories guys! My son never got to see me play...I stopped after college ...I never played goalie "for fun"....Why subject myself to that unless it's serious? :^) but like RF4L I followed my son from age 3, all through travel hockey and then high school. He always had to work harder because he was one of the smaller kids....I was/am so proud of him. He ended up being a very good player through dedication and commitment...yet, many coaches just saw "small." But that's OK because he's a better person than a lot of them will ever be. And now he's about to graduate from high school. He isn't going to play in college so I don't know when I'll ever see him play again. The time goes so fast....savor every moment.

JFC31


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:22 am EST

Vic: only 2 teams have won a playoff round 2 years in a row. The Kings and the Rangers. Let's not forget that making deep runs in not something that happens year after year. There are 28 teams that wish they have had as good a playoffs the last two years as the Rangers...well no...not 28, like 20 since teams went further than the Rangers...but still the Rangers within the last 2 years played in the ECF and last year was all screwed up with the lockout...in any case that was a deep run.

Wildcard


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:13 am EST

I should have added, it was his first goal...and it was me he looked right up at. I dunno what was more prevalent - his excitement or my bursting pride! lol

RF4L


Sat Apr 5 2014 8:11 am EST

jratelle: Cool story my friend. Quite touching. I have a whole bunch of memories about hockey and my sons but it's more the other way around because I saw them play almost every game and them me hardly at all (I haven't played organized hockey for too many years - it's ball hockey instead). Here's a funny one. It was my younger boy's first year (paperweight is what they called it then). Because about 1/2 the kids could barely skate, they divided the ice into 2 and had 4 teams share it. The one particular game, my son was on one of the 2 teams on the half ice that included where kids would enter the ice, so there was plexiglass along it that allowed people to stand and watch. Most of the time, those that did were kids arriving early for the next set of games (and ages could vary - not just paperweight). My boys' team's net was at the half way point of the ice (meaning they were trying to score on a net positioned at the plexiglass). As surely you''ve seen, at 5 years old the kids follow the puck in a stumbling, bumbling pack, my boy included. Well, as it happened at one point, the puck was up against the boards with the plexiglass, behind the opposition's net. So too were most of the kids, my son included. Never the most attentive boy at the best of times, suddenly he sees someone he recognized (a friend of his older brother's). So much for the hockey game. He starts banging the plexiglass with his stick, trying to get that kids attention. Meanwhile, the pack and puck with it, leave. They get about 1/2 way down the 1/2 ice while my son keeps rapping his stick on the glass. Then, finally, he loses interest and turns around to get engaged in the game again. Just as he does, someone in that pack of shuffling, falling kids manages to knock the puck back down the ice, right to my boy (who is still behind the net). Like all true goal scorers, without a hitch, he cradles the puck on his stick, comes out in front and puts the it in the net, catching the very overburdened (by the huge goalie equipment) ad very unsuspecting goalie. Well, by the excitement (on his part) that ensued, you'd think he scored the cup winning goal in OT in the 7th game. His hands went up in the air, and his stick, and he started skating around, looking right up. I could see grin behind his face shield. I'll never forget it. Priceless without a doubt.

RF4L


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:59 am EST

jratelle19..... Great Stuff. Best thing I've read on the wall in quite some time.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 5 2014 7:22 am EST

Hello Wallsters! Taking my son to the game tonight at MSG for his birthday. He turns 8 tomorrow. If you don't mind indulging me a little, I wanted to share a little moment last night that means so much to me. I was playing my usual Friday night game with my gang of 40+ in age. My son came with me, which he usually doesn't do because we normally start at 9:45. Last night, we started at 7:45. He put on his gear and came out on the ice with us for warm-ups. When we were about to drop the puck and he went into the scorer's booth to run the scoreboard for us. My line had a bunch of chances, but we couldn't get the puck in the net, it seemed. About halfway into the game, I got a chance to put myself in front of the crease uncontested and the d-man blasted one from the point that I deflected in. We all fist bumped each other on the ice and then, on the way back to the bench, I saw my little guy jumping up and down cheering. I skated by the booth and fist-bumped him on the glass. I just wanted to say that moment which I got to share with my son is something so precious that I will never forget and I'm getting a little choked up just writing about it. We were talking about it on the way home and I said to him "When we get home, don't tell mom about all my passes that were way off target or all the times I got beaten to a loose puck. Just tell her how great that goal was!" LOL. Anyway, thanks for letting me share this with all of you. My son and I are very close and hockey seems to have become a common bond with us since I put him on the ice 5 years ago. Let's go, Rangers!!

jratelle19


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:58 am EST

Melville- Re the status of the board, obviously some people have left and aren't coming back. Its a shame but it is what it is. The board is probably going to die from it. Sooner or later. I had some illusion that the place would be here in 20 years too, having both good and bad times like it always have. If you want to stand away from things you don't like, its the easiest thing in the world. Just scroll for a second or two. But things are what they are, I don't think whats happen on the board is the reason for it.

Ola


Sat Apr 5 2014 6:45 am EST

Feels good to make the POs. It feels like we have headed in the right direction all season. I am a bit off about the MSL trade, he is just so darn old. How many years can he possibly have left, 1? 2? 3? Wouldn't have minded someone with at least 5 years left... Anyway, I think we are getting better and better and thats what it all is about. Our team is far from perfect, but I think many overrated how "perfect" teams like Boston and Chicago are too. Or Anaheim and STL and so forth. We still have holes, and in the POs they could be exposed for sure and its no lock that we will win a round or two. But if things goes as planned, next season we should expect just that. To win 2 series and then compete in a 3. Hopefully we can make some noise this year.

Ola


Sat Apr 5 2014 5:11 am EST

Vic....the Beer was not for celebration but a payoff to Stevielegs on our bet. I didn't even think we'd make the Playoffs with this squad. hence the bet,I don't know much but I do know we are not winning a CUP anytime soon, certainly not while Sather is our GM and Dolan is the owner. I think the most positive thing that could happen this year is Michiletti gets a job for the NHL broadcast and Maloney does Color and gets Rosen back on track. .

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 5 2014 1:41 am EST

FRED: Is that how far we have sunk? Have expectations fallen so far that just making the playoffs is something to celebrate? Not me. I want Cups and deep playoff runs. That is why I get so frustrated with the way this team is constructed. It was constructed to make the playoffs, not win in the playoffs.

Vic


Sat Apr 5 2014 1:39 am EST

The Rangers would only need a tie or for both Toronto/NJ to tie/lose to clinch their playoff spot. The Rangers would then win the tie-breakers against both teams.

Rhet0ric


Fri Apr 4 2014 11:16 pm EST

I stand corrected......looks like we could still miss......Stevielegs the Beer is back on the shelf.

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 4 2014 10:35 pm EST

Not to be contrarian, Melville, but if Jersey and Toronto can each get 92 and we only have 91, how could we have clinched? Besides that, both TSN and the NHL have updated their standings to reflect tonights scores and we aren't indicated on either as having clinched.

Messier11


Fri Apr 4 2014 10:25 pm EST

As of yesterday any combination of 3 points won by the Rangers or lost by the Caps got us in.......hence our 1 point from last night and a regulation loss by the Craps against the Debies and were in.

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 4 2014 10:07 pm EST

Both Jersey and Toronto have the ability to reach 92 points if they win all remaining games. The teams between them and us can exceed that total. Therefore, we need one more point, as neither Jersey or Toronto could match our wins total even if they won all remaining games. We would hold tie-breaker at 92.

Messier11


Fri Apr 4 2014 9:56 pm EST

Pretty sure were good to go.........

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 4 2014 9:53 pm EST

Fred....I believe we still need a point to clinch a playoff spot......I am drinking anyway....

PJ


Fri Apr 4 2014 9:39 pm EST

I am opening a nice bottle of red wine to celebrate....

PJ


Fri Apr 4 2014 9:38 pm EST

Had my doubts but feels great to get in.....Hope the crowd is loud tomorrow night....We want home ice in first round...

PJ


Fri Apr 4 2014 9:29 pm EST

Friday night schmeiday night.....this is sad!!!! So how do I get you your Beer? I'm looking to pay up.

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 4 2014 9:19 pm EST

relax mfred it's a Friday rainy night weekend. ....I'm just glad you lost the bet...o ye of lil faith......mf where's your crow pie recipe......

stevielegs


Fri Apr 4 2014 9:14 pm EST

Guess its time to find a new board.

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 4 2014 9:01 pm EST

Jaayyyzuuusss we make the playoffs the place is completely dead.....what the hell is going on!!!!!!!!

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 4 2014 8:51 pm EST

So Stevielegs what was the bet? A case of Belgian Beer? How do I get it to you?

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 4 2014 8:39 pm EST

Thank you Devils!!!! Schneider was unbelievable.......and Michiletti fits right in as their color guy!!!

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 4 2014 6:49 pm EST

If Stastny is going to cost too much, how about Eric Staal instead

Messier11


Fri Apr 4 2014 6:19 pm EST

Did you see the smirk / smile on Tortellini's face the other night when MSL scored? It was like he was happy for him, but also like - 'you effin bastard, you just got me fired'. Priceless!

TXRanger


Fri Apr 4 2014 3:30 pm EST

As much as we might want Stasny even if he is not a true #1 center, there will probably be a bidding war on him as the best available UFA center. Assuming we decide to not drastically overpay him to get him, we will need a Plan B....

Ranger47


Fri Apr 4 2014 3:12 pm EST

I concur that Statsny may not be what is truly needed, but is clearly the best option. He's also precisely what Sather has been doing since starting what turned out to be a rebuilding fraud in 2004. The biggest hurtle (besides the possibility that Statsny may have no interest in becoming a Ranger) is the competition and how much money he'll fetch. That said, we know Sather plays hardball with his homegrown talent, but gleefully opens up the wallet when it comes to talent drafted and developed by other organizations. It's quite possible, in other words, that Statsny will land in NY with a ridiculous, future cap albatross contract.

RF4L


Fri Apr 4 2014 3:04 pm EST

I think Stastny is a no-brainer and a HUGE upgrade over Richards on the ice and cap-wise. Plus he's younger. He goes to the net, he's good on the PP...

JFC31


Fri Apr 4 2014 2:09 pm EST

Sather doesn't have many choices. He has to buy out Richards unless he wants to self destruct his cap with blind lemon jimmyboy insisting or blessing. Than it becomes stasny for big money or jt miller lite maybe promoted to 4 th line center or wing...: seems like stasny makes sense...:: so that probably means Richards stays..... To keep msl company as they grow older together ... And then bring back Jagr for the completion of the senior line.....can't discriminate because of age....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 4 2014 1:50 pm EST

WILDCARD: Yeah, I think we see the RICHARDS/STATSNY thing the same way. STATSNY would be an incremental upgrade over RICHARDS for a few reasons but not really the answer the Rangers need in the #1 Center spot. Also, I would expect STATSNY's numbers to drop off after coming to NY. Besides the fact that almost everyone's does, he happens to be playing with some very dynamic young kids in Colorado. He won't have that coming here.

Vic


Fri Apr 4 2014 1:44 pm EST

RF4L: I can't see STEPAN ever becoming a #1 Center. He simply doesn't possess the physical attributes. The biggest issue is his skating. He lacks the speed and quickness to be a dynamic #1 Center. He lacks the size, power and aggression to be a force to recon with as well. As for his skill level I think it is very good, but not great. He has talent but not near the level of the top centers in the league. I could live with the physical shortcomings if he had top of the league type talent. He doesn't. He is a nice player. A depth player. He just isn't a top end player that is going to make a difference in the playoffs.

Vic


Fri Apr 4 2014 1:40 pm EST

Vic: Agreed on Richards....It isn't so much his cap hit NOW (even though he isn't playing up to it most nights) its more about the recapture penalty. You could buy out Richards, and basically offer Stastny the same cap hit over the same number years that BRich has left and it would be a better cap position for the future. And IMHO while Stastny is not a "true" number 1 he would be an upgrade over the current version of Richards and is younger. It may improve the on ice product at C or it might not, but I don't think he would be worse, and will not drop off as quickly over the next 3-4 years. Stastny is also much better on faceoffs than any center the rangers currently have.

Wildcard


Fri Apr 4 2014 1:29 pm EST

R47: There is no better option in free agency. There is also most likely no better option available in a trade because those types of players are seldom available via trade unless they are in their mid-30s and are leaving a team that is looking to restock prospects and draft picks. The Rangers have neither to give. As for RICHARDS I can see things going either way depending on how RICHARDS plays during the playoffs. I could see RICHARDS being bought out at the end of the year leaving the Ranges with a hole to fill. I can also see the Rangers keeping RICHARDS if he plays really well in the playoffs. I was very vocal last year that the only move that made sense was to bring RICHARDS back this year because there simply was no better option available and the odds were that RICHARDS was going to find his game again this year. However, this year I could see the Rangers buying out RICHARDS to bring in STATSNY. SATHER would see that as an upgrade plus the ability to get out of the Cap Hit on RICHARDS contract. I don't think it makes the Rangers any better or worse on the ice though.

Vic


Fri Apr 4 2014 1:22 pm EST

KIS: Wasn't me. The only thing I've been critical on Stepan about is his hold that turned out, as I mused it might during camp, having a huge impact on his slow start. That said, IMO, he's a 2nd line center, not a first. And that said, it's still early enough in his career to say that he could eventually evolve into that role. I think if so, he needs to start showing it next year. And that'll consist of consistency - producing from the start of the year and avoiding prolonged dry spells and equally important, start making the players around him better. I do believe that can still happen, but needs to soon.

RF4L


Fri Apr 4 2014 12:52 pm EST

Ranger47: Stastny is the only top end type center who will be out there IF the AVS don't re-sign him. Trade may be the only option, I am afraid nothing will be out there and they will keep BRich.

Wildcard


Fri Apr 4 2014 12:46 pm EST

Vic: While I happen to agree with you, assuming they buy out Richards (which I think they must to manage risk and free up cap space), then other than Stasny who else do you sign? I mean, it's not likely that they can trade for a #1 center and I'm not aware of another possible one that's a UFA...

Ranger47


Fri Apr 4 2014 11:28 am EST

KIS: On STEPAN, no he isn't a #1 Center and never will be. I would be fine with him as the Rangers #2 Center. He needs to put up points and play solid D because he offers nothing physically. He does not hit/battle in the corners and he does not play in the dirty areas of the ice where tough goals are scored. STEPAN shrinks in the playoffs and disappears because he does not have the ability or desire to play an effective game when the brutal physicality of the playoffs become a reality. I agree with you on STATSNY and have said that for several years. He is not a good option for a #1 Center on a team that intends to compete for a Cup. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Rangers signed him in the offseason because I can see SATHER viewing STATSNY as the answer the Rangers are missing up the middle. He would be WRONG but that won't stop him.

Vic


Fri Apr 4 2014 11:21 am EST

On the game.....I don't know if it was the altitude or something else but the Rangers mailed in that 3rd period after playing two pretty good periods. They sat back on the lead and were content to throw the puck up the boards and ice it rather then handle and skate with it. In the last 5 minutes they weren't even bothering to clear the puck. They just kept throwing it to the Colorado point men. Very frustrating but you get what you deserve. Hopefully that will be a lesson to them that you cannot sit on a lead against the better teams they are going to play in the playoffs.

Vic


Fri Apr 4 2014 10:17 am EST

I think it is funny how nobody is talking about how soft Stepan is since he is putting up points. I know I got into it with somebody( might have been RF) and said he doesn't thorw hits and a team will never win a championship with him. I think he is playing very well. still not hitting and I still don't know if a team can win with him as the #1 center but he is playing better and putting up points. Watched Stastny last night and he is NO better than Step and Brassard. Getting him wouldn't be an answer. He would be redundant and expensive. I like McGinn. Why doesn't AV put Hags out on the ice during 4 on 4. I'd put him out with Poul. Brassard with MZA and Nash with Step. Richards and MSL getting to much time on special teams.

KIS


Fri Apr 4 2014 9:08 am EST

NHLEXPERTPICKS.COM @NHLexpertpicks #Avs Patrick Roy to Tyson Barrie before his shootout winner on Lundqvist 'If you go backhand shelf, I'll be happy' pic.twitter.com/jMHxJr9WRz

stevielegs


Fri Apr 4 2014 8:57 am EST

On another note, having seen it in person (and rather close) Varly with the AVS should win both the Vezina and the Hart. With out him the AVS would be out of the playoff picture. Last night there were at least 4 or 5 times that I saw (1st and 3rd period) when he was not in the best position, and found a way to get a part of his body on a shot...there was one chance that Staal had, he wrapped it around, the puck went off the inside of his leg, but he made a little movement and got it moving away instead of in...subtle, but brilliant play. If the AVS overcome what I see as the issues that too me make them a 1 and done in the post season, it will be due to the guy in net.

Wildcard


Fri Apr 4 2014 8:51 am EST

fred: LOL...didn't see anyone...well I didn't really look all that hard. I can tell you something else, part of why the AVS are so good at home, they are a quick and fast team they skate their collective butts off, and it works. I rarely see a team come in to Colorado and keep up for all 3 periods...the Flames do well, but they are higher in altitude as well, not as high as Denver, but every little bit helps...but teams that are on longer road trips and from sea level like the Rangers struggle. I told my fiance during the second period break that I was concerned because the Rangers needed to be up by at least 2 against the AVS, they love late game heroics....and that's part of why they are such a good team, no quit, but at the same time regardless of home ice advantage, regardless of who they play, I see the AVS bowing out early in the post season, teams don't get as many chances late when down by one in the playoffs, so if the AVS go into too many games last 2 or 3 min down by 1 they will lose quick. On another note, Roy, smart cookie, pulls his goalie at 2 min to get pressure to get defending teams to make mistakes (like Staal and Giradi last night) good coach, much better than I expected....much better.

Wildcard


Fri Apr 4 2014 8:42 am EST

Wild....did you see Colorado Mark at the Game :>) To me it just seemed that it was extremely tough to play the last game of this 4 game trip in MILE HIGH Denver. It seemed to have an effect in the 3rd......

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 4 2014 8:39 am EST

PJ....agreed on Pouliot...played very well....that line was our best line last night.

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 4 2014 8:34 am EST

PJ: Staal turned and slapped at the puck in the slot...gave it right to Barie(sp) who I had right before the faceoff said "watch Barie" It was a fun game to be at in the stands, accept that the AVS fan in general are really REALLY ignorant about hockey...defiantly a bandwagon crowd, at least where I was. Anyway, I expected a hard game, with Kreider and McD out I expected some hiccups (especially McD) I know the AVS have a couple top 6 guys out, but I think its harder to lose a top D than a top forward. So the fact that they got a point out of the game, and really almost had 2 and from 7 rows up it seemed the Rangers controlled play for the majority of the game and even when the AVS had the puck for stretches they didnt get good looks. Another thing, the refs had something against the number 92 last night...loved putting the AVS captain in the box...

Wildcard


Fri Apr 4 2014 8:04 am EST

One guy not mentioned for his play last night is Pouliot....He didn't score but I thought he was a beast out there....Coming back hard on the backcheck and knocking people off the puck continually....Great effort....

PJ


Fri Apr 4 2014 7:52 am EST

going 0-5 on pp.....time to practice it again and again.....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 4 2014 7:26 am EST

MC - There was a graphic on the Colorado feed that showed wins since January 1. Boston was first with 26. There were 2 with 24 and the Rangers with 23. That's not too shabby. Remember they were something like 17-18 in December. The certainly have improved as the season has gone on.

RJ


Fri Apr 4 2014 6:41 am EST

and msl was leaving the zone down 6-5 to try and get an empty netter....must be his specialty....so it was 6-4 , another mistake snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and 2 points......veenyo needs to figure out during a timeout who his best defensive players are to stop from getting tied, not look for a goal.. and instruct them to ice it. he had a timeout to use, that he didn't again...one big brain fart by all......can't do that in the playoffs and expect to win.,....there are no ties then.....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 4 2014 12:10 am EST

Take the points and go home but should have had 2. Girardi was awful all night, Richards awful. He thinks he's Ovechkin staying out for three quarters of the power play. Richards and Girardi should not be on the power play points, at least not together! Too funny when Richards comes out and says I'm the guy that should be playing with St. Louis. Yup maybe eight years ago! They are a disaster together. Oh well, can't fault the effort from the rest of the guys though. I am actually beginning to think maybe we won't be one and out in the playoffs.

MC


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:24 pm EST

Fred...You were right...AV says both Girardi and Staal had a chance to clear the puck....I didn't see the Staal chance to clear....Oh well....Tough playing all those minutes at that altitude....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:18 pm EST

Dave Maloney is really good. Obviously a Ranger but objective and concise. Personable style too. Anyway next three games against loser teams; gotta take six points. At least get home ice v. Flyers. I still hope Columbus gets third in the division.

Nick


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:14 pm EST

I would have taken 5 points before this trip began.....Flyers lost tonight so we gain another point on them....Look out for Detroit...They never lose anymore and have the Sabres in Detroit tomorrow night.....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:10 pm EST

Rosen and Maloney would be fine with me....Michelletti has nothing Ranger about him....Loves the Fishsticks and I honestly don't believe he gives a shit about this team....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:08 pm EST

No matter....time to take care of business at home....really hard to believe that Burroughs got a 5 minute major a game misconduct, an injured player but no suspension.....the NHL is clueless on what to do about discipline.

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:07 pm EST

McD says he is sore but today was better than yesterday....Goal is to be back for the playoffs....Staal played 28 minutes...

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:06 pm EST

They gave them 2 points instead if none...Merry Xmas

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:04 pm EST

Fred...I believe Staal blocked the shot after the Girardi failed clear....All on Girardi in my opinion....If you go up the boards it has to get out....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:03 pm EST

Mfred if he shoots it up the middle either it's a goal or icing better that that soft glass shit...just take time off ... Veenyo still had his deep pocket timeout....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:01 pm EST

PJ....pretty sure that was Stall....Girardi went of the glass and didn't clear but Staal flubbed it in the middle......because he had nothing left....

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:00 pm EST

At least duguay calls girardi out...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:58 pm EST

Agree on the announcing duo....hard to take. Would love to swap Michiletti with Maloney and Rosen with Albert.

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:56 pm EST

Agreed Girardi had to get that puck out....Bad play and he knew it....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:56 pm EST

Take the point and get home. Long trip and finishing up against a strong team at that altitude was not easy. You could see they were gassed in the 3rd especially Staal who missed at least 5 chances to clear the puck most glaringly on the tying goal. Hopefully McDonagh will recover for the playoffs...

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:55 pm EST

Trade dickaletti is always rooting for the opposing team ... He has to go...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:54 pm EST

Hate losing that point leading so late....Lousy efforts in the shootout....A five point trip not bad though....Get home and win Saturday night....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:54 pm EST

Thanks dan girardi empty net and you push up the boards... Ice it who cares... Don't pass it to their guy...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:53 pm EST

goddamnit Stevie....I want to punt my TV into the woods behind my house after listening to them Avs announcers

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:52 pm EST

Another old player who can't get it up... Shit what a crappy 3rd and OT

NYStranger


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:52 pm EST

The big names don't deliver

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:51 pm EST

Shit

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:48 pm EST

I can't take homer and jethro and their hee haw announcing ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:46 pm EST

Richards has had a good year but man did he suck in this game....I think he is getting worn down....May be worth it to rest him....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:44 pm EST

Great 4 on 4 by nyr puck possession

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:42 pm EST

Guy needs to make that call for dickaletti ... Everybody is terrific on the other team ... He needs to go to nbc and join the other jerks...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:39 pm EST

Miss McD here....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:38 pm EST

Well that sucked....Played good D but sat on the lead....I didn't see that goal coming though...Thought we had it...

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:37 pm EST

Ehh....they needed at least one point tonight...So we'll take it.....Hopefully we get the 2nd in OT

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:15 pm EST

I doubt that any death threats were written to Burrows.....THat jackass probably made it up to deflect attention

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:11 pm EST

The Avs play a reckless nasty game and have gotten away with a lot of it. Rangers need to learn how to do some of that themselves when the refs are letting it go.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:10 pm EST

That one hurt Brassard...Make them pay here....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:09 pm EST

That should be a penalty shot on that slash

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:03 pm EST

Almost brian o Gretzky

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:01 pm EST

Nah that's one of wilds stupid nyr fans

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:58 pm EST

Stevie... I was thinking the same thing. The man is brilliant. :)

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:54 pm EST

Rhet did they call collect?.... Wild has the perfect alibi...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:51 pm EST

It wasn't Wild...That is for sure....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:44 pm EST

Okay, who was the joker here who called in the death threat on Alexandre Burrows? http://network.yardbarker.com/nhl/article_external/alexandre_burrows_receives_death_threats_after_hit_on_ryan_mcdonagh/16178866

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:43 pm EST

Brassard is killing me with these penalties....Great shot by Step....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:38 pm EST

You can't spell Brassard without a big ASS in the middle.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:36 pm EST

Stepan step on step off

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:34 pm EST

It's just fun watching Zuc work.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:34 pm EST

If Geunin was cross checking me like he did to Nash in front of the net.....I would use my hockey stick like a battle axe and chop down on his head

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:30 pm EST

great play by Step.

jim9k26


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:30 pm EST

That woke me up! DEREK STEPAN!!!

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:28 pm EST

yawn.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:26 pm EST

Third in conference means something to me, no matter who were matched up against. Plus, it means something when were re-seeded each round. Home ice.

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:22 pm EST

Come on...Get this PP going again....Nash needs to wake up....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:20 pm EST

Hank... Please stop playing the puck behind the net. Please!

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:14 pm EST

MESS: Being 3rd in the conference has no meaning in the playoffs. The Playoffs are divisional, their is no cross over. If the season ended today, it would be Pitt/Detroit, NYR/Philly and those winners would play each other

DOUBLEN


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:10 pm EST

Huge helper from Calgary tonight, beating TB. If we can put this one away, we will be a win away from third in conference.

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:09 pm EST

We really could've used McDonagh on that goal. His speed getting back would've helped.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 3 2014 8:59 pm EST

Thanks... Mfred looks like beer to me...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 8:50 pm EST

Sam said 93 pts for them to clinch a playoff spot, so 3 more pts to go

DOUBLEN


Thu Apr 3 2014 8:46 pm EST

Rangers magic # should be at 1

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 3 2014 8:43 pm EST

Looks like the Rangers have to play the refs as well as the Avs. IMO the Rangers need to pick up the hitting and physical play. Many of these guys are capable of it and have been choosing not to initiate. It is going to hurt us if they continue this way.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 3 2014 8:41 pm EST

Anyone know the nyr magic number?

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 8:38 pm EST

Cryers lose to ny bluejacks

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 8:28 pm EST

I dunno if it is me....being so dialed into watching these games with the passion of everyone here....but it always appears that the Rangers opponents always play recklessly against us.....Its like teams are blueprinting the way the Ducks won the Cup in 2007

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 3 2014 8:25 pm EST

dirty fuckin Avs

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 3 2014 8:12 pm EST

More Moore

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 6:58 pm EST

AV has thrown down the gauntlet with JT Miller, it's now up to him to rise to the challenge or go home.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 3 2014 6:54 pm EST

WILD.... Good take on Miller. Personally, I expected him to be a bit further along than he is right now(a la Callahan or Dubinsky). He's also in limbo right now, too good for the AHL but not ready yet for prime time. Maybe it's time for someone to have a come-to-Jesus meeting with him

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 3 2014 6:40 pm EST

Hard for me to relate to wild's take on this "topic." Been holding back since Tuesday nite, post-game tbh. I think it's the same for the majority of us here; since I am assuming most are or were athletes and played a Team sport. I can only relate from a soccer player's view. Since the sport I played was a contact sport, yes it's true; I can recall numerous incidents where I took matters into my own "consideration" on behalf of a Team-mate. There was NEVER any thought, just ACTION! I understand the "cerebral" take on this incident or numerous others in recent Ranger history, but the bottom line is, our BEST player got smoked! There should have been an immediate, appropriate response.

pa.rangersfan


Thu Apr 3 2014 6:29 pm EST

stevie.., soo..well said!

pa.rangersfan


Thu Apr 3 2014 5:45 pm EST

wild if you go, please make sure to jump on the ice to break up any possible fights. thanks

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 4:37 pm EST

Represent well CM....Bring home a winner...Will be a tough game for the Rangers I am afraid....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 4:23 pm EST

Going to the game tonight. Bummer to not get to see Kid K and Mac. But it should be a good game. I'll give a report later. Not sure if any other Colorado wallsters are going (Wildcard?) but I'll be wearing a Richards Winter Classic jersey with my wife(Lundqvist Heritage jersey) and daughter (Rangers T-shirt).

ColoradoMark


Thu Apr 3 2014 4:08 pm EST

Did anyone else catch the end of the Devils game before the Canucks game started Tuesday night? I knew they were 0-10 but this stat amazed me....going into that night the Devils had scored 1..ONE?!?...goal in the shootout in 30 tries. Chic Resch looked like he wanted to hang himself after the game. I get so much joy from seeing that franchise crumble, makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

pete


Thu Apr 3 2014 4:01 pm EST

one = won ......and juan and juan are two....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 3:58 pm EST

puck thanks, unfortunately they were few and far between......Wild guess you'll be happy if they end Nash's career ....was it ok when he stood up for himself?.....you are living in a dream world of utopian hockey.....let me know what the last 5-10 cup winners did the year they one to get there during the regular season.....maybe you want to define TEAM and if they should watch each others' backs......I'll assume you don't want Big Mac ever here, because he doesn't play hockey they way you think it should be played....call uncle sather see what he thinks....he claims ' you can never be tough enough......he's proved that......

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 3:57 pm EST

One thing that's problematic is the League......there is no consistency in anything they rule. If I look at that play you've got McD engaged so he can't do anything about the elbow and cheap shot coming his way.....so why is that not a punishable offense? Earlier in the game Kesler yanked McD down by the jersey slamming his head into the ice.....I mean c'mon they were gunning for him all night not just playing hard but looking to injure.....I don't know much but I'm certain his injury is more serious than the Rangers are letting on. Last year both Calahan and Hagelin both needed off season shoulder surgery ......injuries they played with.

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 3 2014 3:43 pm EST

When I was playing HS, our team was the second-most penalized in the league, and one of the worst scoring. Our coaches made a deal with us: If we kept the penalties down for the remainder of the season, they would schedule a non-sanctioned match against the most penalized team in the league: the Pattonville Pirates. We kept up our end of the bargain, and in the second period against Pattonville, there was a bench-clearing brawl that ended with the game being called. Another brawl broke out in the runway to the lockerroms, and a third one with some parents getting involved in the parking lot.

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 3:25 pm EST

The Hawks non-reaction was confusing and I suppose, in part, because many deemed the hit clean. It did seem clean at first, but then when you watch the v ideo you see Oprick left his feet, launching himself into Toews. I also wonder about what his mates thought about how Toews left himself vulnerable - skating basically with his head down 2 feet from the boards. That's a double no-no for me. Nonetheless, the fact that no one did a thing on the Hawks seemed out of character. Flash back to Oprick nailing that Bruin earlier this year and you see basically the opposite of how the Hawks reacted. The Burrows hit IMO was worse.

RF4L


Thu Apr 3 2014 3:10 pm EST

Wild-I played some hockey in my day. Travel, High School, College, Men's leagues etc. Played on all kinds of teams. Been cheap shotted many times, didn't always retaliate if someone slashed me or a teammate, punched in the face. but there's a time to do it and a time that you can't. We beat a team in HS that hadn't lost a game in 6 years because we didn't retaliate and got a 4 minute PP. In a tie game in the Stanley Cup playoffs, 3rd period, you can't. In a 3-1 game with 40 seconds left, game is over, and they charge and elbow your best player and knock his shoulder out of the socket-and you don't respond-you don't defend your teammate-it's just f-ing sad is what it is. There's no defending it. Shameful.

puckyou


Thu Apr 3 2014 3:05 pm EST

Blackhawks collectively yawned when Toews got run by Orpik. Hawks are a pretty good club. Quenneville seemed a bit perplexed by the reaction, but there is a wide range of it. Instant rage? Keeping cool? Biding time? I honestly don't which if any is best, but I'm pretty sure slamming the hell out of someone isn't gonna make that player or team stop hitting. Hockey culture is just weird. Like the Milbury riff that Orpik 'has to fight' if he's gonna hit. Why?

Nick


Thu Apr 3 2014 3:01 pm EST

WOW-http://nypost.com/2014/04/03/vigneault-j-t-miller-hasnt-earned-the-right-to-stay-in-pros/

puckyou


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:58 pm EST

Stevie-here's some for you: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ryan+callahan+fight

puckyou


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:58 pm EST

Wild calm down! Some of us think there should have been retaliation of some sorts you don't. That's fine but please end this you're making my ears bleed.

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:56 pm EST

Wild...Yes the league should police this but they aren't....As for what the Flyers are thinking you ask?....If we do play them in the playoffs they are thinking run Nash,McD and especially Hank....You can be certain of this....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:52 pm EST

Stevie...that's not hockey. And it would take away 1/3 of a good 4th line. Also if that's how it's supposed to be done, than you are OK with another Ranger star player being targeted...so what...back and forth till Hank is injured along With Zucc and Nash? Nice. Or, stay controlled. Score on the PP and win the game, go into next game with all players. hhhhhmmmm?

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:47 pm EST

You all want to ignore reality. That's fine. You know what team isn't passive and is very reactive? The team the Rangers play tonight. You know how often their top players get run by a dirty hit? More than any other team I have watched regularly this season...a HELL of a lot more than the Rangers. Teams come into games against the AVS trying to out do the AVS physical nastiness, they don't back down, they run guys into the second row early and often. The AVS respond and nothing changes. Where you and a aged tough guy/ref see passiveness I see control. A understanding of the current situations and a decision to not quit playing hockey to prove something to fans and guys who write for Eklunds website.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:46 pm EST

that's what carcillo and dorsett are for.....go after their stars, especially after they take one of yours' out....veenyo should have put them on the ice after that play......and they should have inflicted some pain......that's how hockey should be played......

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:43 pm EST

Agree.....Falk would have been a better choice than Moore coming off a concusion.

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:42 pm EST

RJ: The NHL made hooking a quicker call and it has stopped guys from "water skiing" I am sure of one thing. Guys like Burrows would still make stupid hits...but the first one would be 15-20 games. The second they miss half a season...the third they miss 82 games. How many Burrows level players would get another NHL contract after loosing a full season? And I also say let the contract be voided if the team wants after the suspension year is up. Players like Burrows and Kaleta(sp) would end up sitting in the press box or playing in the Swiss League. Either way problem solved. Then you will have teams avoiding those types of players from the get go and you remove the issue altogether.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:37 pm EST

People get hurt less in fights than they do by charges from behind and elbows to the face. Nash missed 17 games from a hit to the head, not a fight.Nobody defended him then either.Most guys don't need surgeries from scraps. If you don't defend your teammates-2 things happen. One-the other team knows there's no penalty to taking liberties with your best players-and you can bet your ass in a playoff series- they will. Two-the smaller, finesse players on your team that can't hurt back will play smaller, as they can't depend on anyone to back them up. If the NYR play Boston in the playoffs (hope they get that far), Zucc/Stepan/Richards/MSL & MCD and his bum shoulder will be targets. Who will defend them. Answer-Nobody. But don't worry-nobody will get hurt in a fight-or take a retaliatory penalty.That much has been determined

puckyou


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:37 pm EST

Love this line from Paul Stewart's take on the Burrows hit: 'So, basically, the Rangers were neither proactive nor reactive here. They were simply passive.' OMG, what telling and damning words they are. Worse, they are bang on. And some people wonder why I'm posting negatively lately more often than not. Just so it's clear: Some of us on here have been posting about the passiveness of the Rangers and how it will sooner or later, result in an injury to a key Ranger (or injuries to key Rangers) all season long (and before that, too - passive to describe the New York Rangers has been the case more often than not since the 1970s and lately, since the start of last season. And until/unless it's addressed, it's only going to continue and likely in the short term, get worse.

RF4L


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:31 pm EST

Re: the Burrows hit. The biggest problem that I see is who was on the ice at the time. Who did you want to go beat the piss out of Burrows? Zuccarello? St. Louis? Since it was the end of the game Burrows knew that he didn't have to face a Carcillo or Dorsett because he gets sent to the locker room. Maybe (or maybe not), if it happened in the first period then AV sends out Carcillo the next time Burrows is on the ice, but that wasn't going to happen. Of course, if you agree with Wild, then if the league would have a strong stand against that sort of thing then it probably doesn't happen no matter who is on the ice.

RJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:21 pm EST

Puckyou: yeah nothing to loose unless of course there is an injury, but those NEVER happen in fights or scrums or loosing a player to suspension. Nothing but that at risk.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:14 pm EST

puck I don't remember Callahan ever dropping his gloves or get 5 for fighting..... do you? ...and that's not a total putdown of him, just a partial......

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 2:04 pm EST

Anyone who has ever played hockey at a competitive level can tell you regarding the Burrows cheap shot-there is no way there shouldn't have been retaliation. The game was over-there was nothing to lose by beating the piss out of Burrows. All teams know it's open season on the NYR best D now, when he comes back expect that shoulder to pop out a few more times in the playoffs (See Gabby, Cally, Hags). NYR-all cheap shots are free-sale never ends. They just don't care enough. Brandon Prust would NEVER allow it-neither would Cally.

puckyou


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:51 pm EST

Mess: I took it as Miller doesn't WANT to do the things away from the puck, or to put in extra work off the ice to make himself better at that. Perhaps they want him watching film and he goes and hangs out downtown instead or goes to the movies and doesn't put the time in.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:50 pm EST

...also, even if Giradi and every other player took turn beating Burrows...McD would still be out the same amount of time. Also, what do you think the Flyers are thinking? That they can scare the Rangers? No...they know no one is sacred out there, or they wouldn't have made it to the NHL. However, if they watched a Ranger react and risk suspension for a lat 5 instigator what do you think they would do in the playoffs? Well of course, they would wait till the last 5 and go at a top guy hard, hoping to draw a Ranger into a suspension. And if the hitter got his butt kicked and cleaned up nicely by a McIlrath type...well they would still throw the hit to give their team the advantage in the next game because they are not scared either.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:47 pm EST

PJ: The Rangers are only one man down going into the game tonight. Not two. They are not having a player face suspension, they are not having a second top 4 Dman down with injury. Break a nail? You are just ignoring things like facts. Like the fact that this happened http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wvWq_CWAeY But hey, Cally responded so it was OK to lose him for some time. Lets risk that to make the fans feel better. You know where the rangers would be if they DID go after him and there was no injury and no suspension? EXACTLY THE SAME PLACE THEY ARE NOW. End of story. A team that is struggling may need some kind of rallying cry, some "bring them together" moment. But not a team that has one of the best record in the NHL in the last 50-60 games. (nearly the same as the Pens) If they didn't have that really bad start, they would have 5-10 more points, and they would be challenging for the top spot in the division...and have clinched a playoff spot already in the division, and close to home ice in the first round. So lets dispense with the notion that this team somehow needs something to bring them together. There was nothing to gain from some macho show them how tough we are crap the other night. Like I said the other day, if it was the playoffs, and if it wasn't the last 5 min due to the stupid as hell instigator penalties and automatic suspensions, than I would be 100% on board with a response, its a playoff series and you need to set tones, and while not going overboard make sure the opposing team knows you will not just sit back, and it can energize your team for the next game. In a regular season game like the other night...just a risk with no reward. Again, the situation matters.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:41 pm EST

What's that supposed to mean? AVs way of saying Miller is weak/out of shape, or was there some off-ice incident?

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:40 pm EST

Nice comment AV...What is he doing a Torts impression?....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:38 pm EST

Wild...And we are where by ignoring what Burrows did?....Our best player is out for who knows how long....Oh but we did the right thing by not retaliating...It would have been dumb or Girardi could have broke a nail or blah blah blah.....The league has spoken on hits like this....They don't give a shit....Rangers players have to handle and should have....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:37 pm EST

JFC: If it was McIlrath it wouldn't have been so bad...accept loosing him for a game for instigating in the last 5 min....and if he broke his hand so close to the playoffs....but for starters...it Was Giradi and a smaller forward line....don't put the responsibility of fighting on those guys....they are the ones who get hurt fighting. No one seems to want to look at the situation surrounding the moment. It was the end of the game, right before the playoffs and the top Dman was face down on the ice, and Rangers fans want the number 2 Dman to get into a fight and risk injury.....am I the only one who finds that risk unacceptable?

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:36 pm EST

Zip: McD day to day. AV thinks it won't be for long. Pairings are as I originally posted, but AV may shuffle throughout game. ///// AV on Miller demotion: needs more commitment "on and off the ice"

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:32 pm EST

Vigneault says "hopefully Miller will figure it out...if not he will be a good minor league player." ::: OUCH

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:32 pm EST

wild in case you feel like singing...maybe they'll play it at the next game at msg.....http://www.lyricstime.com/war-what-is-it-good-for-lyrics.html

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:32 pm EST

PJ: hey get the flyers in the first round and a hit like that happens...you know what I want. a 5 min PP, not 4 on 4 and 1 or 2 less players due to misconducts, and a couple of goals on the 5 min PP and a 4 game sweep. THAT is how you respond...not by do EXACTLY what they want. That is the OLD (strong emphasis on OLD) NHL way of thinking, and does not work within the current system of rules. So you want Giradi if it was a playoff game to instigate a fight and miss the next playoff game. But hey! There will be a good feeling in the locker room that they have each others backs. I like hockey, and guys like Burrows are not hockey players, and its not hockey when teams run around trying to get him after a dirty hit, and its not hockey to go after one of the other guys on the team int he same cheap manner to "get back" at the team...because guess what, by your "standards" they will do the same..and all you will have is a bunch of wasted time watching headhunting and a REALLY crappy hockey game with no flow, no good offensive stuff and nothing but "exciting" fights that are between A) guys who are not fighters and it will be a crappy fight or B) between two guys who are only useful to pound each others brains in. Yippie. Give me a hockey game over any of that any day.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:30 pm EST

Burrows wasn't going to fight. He didn't respond to the gloved punch that Girardi threw. He was just trying to get under the skin, injure one of ours, get another of ours suspended for retaliation. That's how players like Burrows earn their checks.

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:27 pm EST

What should have happened is two or three rangers grab Burrows immediately, dogpile him and then injure him when the league and refs couldn't see. But that kind of coordination would require practice...

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:16 pm EST

You respond when one of your teammates gets hit like that....Plain and simple....Wild...We don't agree and never will so save your silly rant....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 1:05 pm EST

Or watch this.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhtmxE3vPNg

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 3 2014 12:54 pm EST

Stewart's description of the hit and the perpetrator are exactly correct. I had not seen thehit before but seeing it speaks volumes about the Rangers' team mindset....and that's not a good thing. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. The toughest stretch of games, the stretch with the greatest adversity, the stretch that really defines a team is the Stanley Cup playoffs. If the Rangers don't have an instinct to protect and efend each other, that does not bode well for their ability to survive adversity. And they've shown that same lack of protective instinct many times before. What would be the harm is jumping that idiot....a one game suspension? That game was not in doubt....it was the ideal time to make a statement and add to team chemistry. If the game was tight, then it is more understandable to think before acting. This situation called for instinctive reaction. The fact that they did not react is a bad sign IMO. Take a look at this clip and explain to me how that would be bad for the Rangers after that hit by Burrows? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOR7qNaqGZE

JFC31


Thu Apr 3 2014 12:48 pm EST

keyword...stupid.....start with the nhl for not disciplining a known offender who the ref called for a major......than go to bserella who sent him out there......the guy who got suspended for crying and Hollywood acting about another team doing crap to him and his team......the same guy who put a goon squad together against the debbies when he was here......the bottle squitter who cost his team in the playoffs....and the nyr should have nailed anyone on the next shift...... preferably in front of the talkerella bench and hit him with an errant stick.....in his big mouth.....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 12:42 pm EST

PJ: No he is wrong about everything. The NHL and its players need to get smarter...not dumber. It isn't 1970 anymore. The NHL has made rules to stop players from self policing, but they will not hold up the other end. Simply saying the players should have handled it themselves...how naive. The hit never happens if the NHL disciplinary system was set up correctly. Guys like Burrows would be afraid to attempt hits like that. But NOOOO instead fans call for non goons to drop the gloves...for a Giradi to be a McIlrath...or for Zucc, or Brass to become a Carcillo. Its so asinine, why the hell would we want that? That is how players like that get hurt in fights...because they have them so far and few between they don't know what they are doing....and right before the playoffs....and all because we as fans have some delusion about other teams deciding that they wont make dangerous hits because they would have to answer the bell against DUNDUNDUN GIRADI! LMFAO! Not one player would be afraid of him...and if a bigger guy is out there...they skate as fast as they can to the ref/linesman and the penalty box Neil is an expert at that...how often dose he fight? And he has been out on the ice with fighters who want to go after he lands a hit...always gets away with it too....then he continues to play on or over the edge and it gets the other team to focus on him instead of the game...GAME OVER if you do that. And do you really think if Giradi had dropped the gloves McD would in the next game be all "Im safe now that Giradi will drop the gloves for me...no one would dare hit me cheap." Come on...lets work based in reality, and the reality of today's NHL and today's NHL players. Not some fantasy land where these guys like Burrows actually respect other players and are afraid of anyone.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 12:38 pm EST

zip: McD not in practice. D pairings: Moore/Girardi, Staal/Stralman, Klein/Diaz. I would have brought in Falk.

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 12:33 pm EST

Stewart nailed it in that write up......He may know just a little bit more than most on the topic....

PJ


Thu Apr 3 2014 12:32 pm EST

It would make perfect sense for Cally to stay in Tampa....he could accept less money because of the lack of state income tax. If he ends up going to Buffalo for more money, that shows that's what he wanted all along.

JFC31


Thu Apr 3 2014 12:25 pm EST

Vt: I like him, well liked him as a ref...but he is what is WRONG with the NHL today. The same reason there was no suspension...the NHL execs feel the Rangers should have held people up...while at the same time creating rules that say you cant hold a guy up. Here is a guy who is calling for a reaction...to hell with a suspension...who cares! How stupid...how "me macho man! (pounds chest)" it stupid and unneeded. I'm sorry...but in a game that means ZERO moving forward you don't have to prove anything to anyone. I bet my house that McD is not upset in the SLIGHTEST that his teammates didn't go risk injury and suspension due to the hit. How stupid do "we" have to be? These guys are teammates and friends, they dont need to prove they care about each other. This decades old "code" is why the NHL turns its head and lets dangerous stuff stay in the game. Players like Burrows can run around trying to injure guys knowing he can get away with it with at the WORST taking a few punches to his helmet from a non-goon like Girardi... OOOOHHH NOOOO what a terrible thing to go through! If the NHL put a 15-20 game ban on him for a previous bad hit, and he was facing a 41 game ban for the next one, do you think he hits McD the other night? Probably not. And if he did, well half a season..so long screwball, and that means he will get the next hit after that and get an 82 game ban...then he will be gone to the KHL or something. Stop crying about players not breaking a second set of rules for a player breaking a first set of rules. Stop bitching because the Rangers guys who make a living being top players dont lower themselves to being a guy who fights in the last minute of a decided game against a team you will not see again till next season. Stupid risk, stupid idea, no reward, no positive outcome...well...other than people who write things on the internet can feel better for some odd reason.

Wildcard


Thu Apr 3 2014 12:09 pm EST

Required reading. Retired ref Paul Stewart's opinion on the McDonough hit: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Paul-Stewart/Burrows-Hit-on-McDonagh-Where-Were-the-Rangers/196/59112#.Uz2N0NU2rEs.twitter

VtRanger


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:41 am EST

Blues going to Buffalo resting their starting goalie, top goal-scorer, and top defender. Should still be a blowout.

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 11:08 am EST

We may get Tampa's 2015 2nd rounder after all: http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/29822/rumblings-callahan-staying-in-tampa-canucks-making-changes

Messier11


Thu Apr 3 2014 10:08 am EST

messier can say whatever he thinks. he doesn't work for the nyr....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 9:57 am EST

Of course Messier is going to say that, what else can he say? Rangers 2 rounds max and out....If we play Boston we will get killed literally. AV is too soft of a coach to understand that. This is where torts would fit better but only in this specific instance. Why can't we ever find a coach that understands both? These frenches are such pussies.

vcp1994


Thu Apr 3 2014 6:57 am EST

Aww...crybaby...http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2014723-sidney-crosby-gets-smacked-in-the-mouth-takes-stick-to-groin-against-hurricanes#articles/2014723-sidney-crosby-gets-smacked-in-the-mouth-takes-stick-to-groin-against-hurricanes

RF73


Thu Apr 3 2014 6:20 am EST

http://nypost.com/2014/04/02/messier-rangers-have-great-chance-to-win-stanley-cup-2/

stevielegs


Thu Apr 3 2014 5:37 am EST

I didn't see the game last night, and it sounds like Boston carried the play from the report, but I've seen two games before between Det and Bos. I think that's a dream match-up for us. Detroit has done really well against Boston this season, their D has been able to handle Boston's forecheck and when you can do that you can get to their big and slow D. I don't have track on Zetterberg and Datsyuk, but when they get back Detroit could definitely give Boston a good fight. If Detroit could beat Boston in the first round, we would get rid of a team that really scares me AND a team that we seem to have no problems with, Detroit, would advance.

Ola


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:01 pm EST

Wings beat the Bruins: Let's Go Blooooze ... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/gameflash/2014/04/02/32924_recap.html

mf


Wed Apr 2 2014 10:20 pm EST

PJ: No kidding :-) no worries, I'll become a Bruins fan when it serves my interest to benefit the Rangers....... OAN, was looking around the Denver Post to see if anyone else besides Matt Duchene is out.... P.A. Parenteau is still out.... Maybe CoMark or Wild or whoever else follows the AVs can shed some light on ways to beat these boys? gents?

mf


Wed Apr 2 2014 9:41 pm EST

mf....Was making a joke from an earlier post when we were told to become Bruin fans...Bruins blew it tonight...

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 9:32 pm EST

Re Wing/Bruin game: Nyquist blows by Chara to tie the score. Wow...what a player.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 9:29 pm EST

Rhet: Watch MCD say next to nothing,play through the injury, production tapers off significantly, and need offseason surgery ala: Gabby..... "The Fregosi Curse" strikes again....

mf


Wed Apr 2 2014 9:03 pm EST

There's lot's of guess work going around about McDonagh, the prevailing theory seems to be that he had a dislocated shoulder and the Rangers will wait for the swelling to go down before he's cleared to play. It's a good bet if the injury were worse, he would've flown back to NY for more tests. Either way, we should still have enough talent on the team to clinch a playoff spot and then have MCD back in time for the playoffs(if not sooner). Staal will play with Girardi and Moore should be back for the AV's game .....Stevie..... Most coaches are hypocrites(especially when they change teams). Personally, I don't really care who the guy on the other bench is, our coach needs to be prepared for things like this to happen.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 8:41 pm EST

PJ: There are a few of us here who hated the Bruins before we hated the Fylers.. In 74' the Flyers knocked the Bruins into 2nd place... Coming in 3rd is Pittsburg, with NJ & Montreal tied for the 4th/5th slots....

mf


Wed Apr 2 2014 8:28 pm EST

Are the rest of you Bruin fans watching the Boston-Detroit game?....Tied 1-1 in the second....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 7:59 pm EST

RF4L: "If the Foo Shitz, wear it!" Negative doesn't fit you, so please put it back on the shelf ! :->

mf


Wed Apr 2 2014 6:30 pm EST

NYR bad luck... I realize McDonough is stratosphere levels better... but I cringe thinking of an serious injury to McD similar to what happened to T Kloucek whom was growing into a top line defenseman when he blew out his knee and never was the same...

schneidw


Wed Apr 2 2014 6:14 pm EST

rhet no, but the former coach put burrows out there. why?....he cries when another team does it to him...he's a punk . he had no problem with his guy doing what he did....he's a sore loser, and a loser......and has sour grapes.....he's a pos.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 2 2014 5:45 pm EST

My number one questions is why is McDonagh traveling to Colorado if he's going to be out the next couple of weeks? ...MF... Are you implying that Vancouver is the first team to try to get their pound of flesh at the end of a game they were losing or that Torts personally told Burrows to go out and injure McDonagh? ...WILD.... Thanks for trying to teach me about Hockey. I never said that the 4th line should've played the last two minutes. There were better options that AV could've made other then sending the two smallest Rangers out on the ice together at the end of the game.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 5:34 pm EST

Definately time for a Big Mac attack....It ain't going to happen though....AV barely reacted to the hit last night....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 5:25 pm EST

Glad to see that JTM is going to get some 1st line time again on the Pack rather than sit.

Ranger47


Wed Apr 2 2014 5:22 pm EST

The Rangers have sent down JT Miller.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 5:20 pm EST

rf you are living in enemy territory. .. now we know who wears the pants ....it's time to call up big mac for the last 5 games to watch this team's back .....so some can call it stupidity......veenyo better get with the program.....teams are out to injure, because they can't beat the nyr on the scoreboard......and don't want them to be healthy for the playoffs.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 2 2014 5:18 pm EST

When discussing current events or just in genreal chit-chat, and of course, sports talk, negativity is a natural instinct. It makes for more conversation than happy talk does. It's just the natural way of things....not just on The Wall....everywhere. Why us there more bad news on the media outlets than good news? People find bad news more interesting. Had a college professor explain it this way: a guy is driving to a black tie dinner. It's cold and rainy. His car breaks down on a back road. He gets out to change the tire, cursing. He hurts his back getting the lugs off, screaming. He arrives at the party an hour late, soaking wet and dirty. Does he come in and say, "hey, I've got 3 really good tires!"? Is talking about the bad tire "negativity" even though he got to the party? I didn't see the fame last night, so I won't comment but having a guy like McI who will chase down a guy for a dirty hit and kick his ass is STILL important in hockey IMO. We don't have that and it's why teams feel free to take liberties....and can contribute to top players getting hurt. Here's our opponents strategy vs. the Rangers in the playoffs: crowd/bump/run Lundqvist...hit McD hard and often, take the body every chance you get.

JFC31


Wed Apr 2 2014 5:07 pm EST

And yeah, I've been negative because I think the future for this club has been seriously compromised and while of course I hope I'm wrong, I see no cup on the horizon this year or next, plus a threadbare feeder system (backed by folks more educated on these matters than this board). It bugs the hell of out me and I feel compelled to post about it. What can I say? Where else can I go? No one listens to my complaints at home!

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 4:45 pm EST

Oh oh, self-appointed wall police on patrol again!

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 4:37 pm EST

Hey, people are pissed our best player was hurt by a dirty hit....Would like something to have been done about it....The league has announced they aren't going to and we have lost the guy for who knows how long....So we should all say so what we won the game and MSL scored?....I don't see anybody posting the team stinks....I am still mad about the hit and don't really give a shite if somebody thinks that is stupid....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 4:31 pm EST

This might be the only time I've ever agreed with York. The team won a big game. They're about to clinch the second seed in the division. St.Louis finally scores one. And, all that posted is people complaining that nobody beat the shit out of Burrows.

RJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 4:28 pm EST

Whatever dude.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 4:20 pm EST

with that last post I'm out of here again, We win and guys bitch MSL finally scores, nothing is said, we get another shorty nothing positive said. Just complaining and that's the reason I don't post here much any more or read the board like I said to Hospo I don't know why some of you don't go become Bruins fans already.

York18


Wed Apr 2 2014 4:18 pm EST

I'll say it again, I swear some of you honestly just love to bitch about this team, you have nothing good to say ever about this team and it's always the same guys. I know we all cant be as sunny as Wild, but for the love of god it's not all bad. Bitch Bitch Bitch like caddy woman.

York18


Wed Apr 2 2014 4:16 pm EST

RF4L You spin shite so much it's not funny, YOU said that you don't count the other places because they aren't a true idea of what a player really is, now all of a sudden to fuel your point now it counts? You're also padding your bs with rushing players, well if we don't let them play we should bury them in the minors for what for the hell of it? Not rush them for the sake of being slow? You talk about people not admitting they are wrong and you're just as guilty because you will change what you say whenever it fits your argument because the last time when myself, TD, and Wild brought up guys in the system not in the AHL you said they don't count because they are nothing more then maybes.

York18


Wed Apr 2 2014 4:03 pm EST

Tomas Jurco is another future strong Wing, I suspect. He was drafted in 11 and turned pro the summer of 12,, spending all of last year and most of this year in the AHL, this despite a clear progression in his game this year (a point a game for the Wings farm team).

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:59 pm EST

Unlike the gotta win now because you cannot rebuild in NY mentality of Jimmy Dolans and Glennie Sather.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:57 pm EST

Brendan Smith is another example. Drafted 27th overall in 07 by the Wings, did 3 years at U of Wisconsin, then spent most of 2 and a half years in the AHL before finally getting a regular spot this year on the Wings blueline. Now compare that to MDZ, drafted the following June at 15. He spent 1 year in junior after being selected, turning pro at 19 when he clearly wasn't ready. Now his career is in a tailspin. What should have happened (and I called it from the time he turned pro) is at 19 he finished his junior career and then spent time in the AHL, probably at least his first pro season and maybe beyond. IMO its no coincidence that he's struggling now because he was rushed. Watching him it's very obvious to me that his confidence is shot. I like this kid and hope he's able to figure it all out and come back strong next year. He's certainly in an organization known for its teaching and patience.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:49 pm EST

obviously the former coach sent guys out to hurt, not try to score. and the new coach didn't respond in kind with who he had out. .....the old days that's a bench clearing brawl reason.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:47 pm EST

And on to another argument as Sather apparently ponders rushing Adam Tambellini into the pro ranks. Having a remarkable and breakout season for the Detroit Red Wings is Gustav Nyquist. He was drafted in the 4th round 6 years ago. He completed 3 years at the U of Maine (AFTER being drafted by the Wings), turning pro the fall of 2011. He spent 11/12 and 12/13 shuttling between the Wings and their AHL team, at roughly a one third/two thirds split. I see why he was recalled during those 2 seasons - he produced at the AHL level immediately and productively, scoring better than a point per game. So guess where he started the season last fall? In the AHL. His recall happened due to both injuries and yet another good start in the AHL. Now he's likely in the AHL to stay with great stats like 27 goals and 45 points in 50 games. So many look at the Wing organization in amazement, wondering how they do it with no high picks. Well, here's one secret: Don't rush your prospects. Let them mature at level equal to their competence. Another fine example is Tomas Tatar. Drafted in 09 he spent his first 4 pro years in the AHL, getting a few look-sees in the past 2. This year, however, he's a Wing regular and doing well, on pace to score 20+ goals and 40+ points. Sather, take a freakin' gander on the pluses of not rushing kids. Moron.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:29 pm EST

here not hear

mf


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:28 pm EST

RHET: Excuse me, but how about, "What was Tortorella thinking" sending out Kassian & Borrows" with 45 seconds left in a game where there was zero goonery or questionable play from the NY Rangers? This wasn't a blowout where we were racking up the goals and rubbing their faces in anything... This was not a case of NJ sending out their 4th line to start a game so Torts matched it & the game opens with a brawl to set the tone..... With the benefit of hindsight, the four Ranger skaters not named MCD should have collectively beat the fuck out of borrows... Its time this club held a closed door meeting without the coaches to address this shit.... yeah, its just my fucking opinion since we have a bunch of school teachers hear...... cheers my man..

mf


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:25 pm EST

Wild " True ranger fan stupidity"...?.....I won't even agree or disagree on your fighting pov. But does that mean you are a smart fan, and those who disagree you want to name call stupid , or talking . feeling, and/ or thinking stupid? ....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:25 pm EST

Wild: Huh? I don't get your point. I wasn't referring to the AHL only. I;m talking about teams with bluechippers in their system. And Rakell has played 46 games for the Norfolk Admirals. Those 3 Rangers you cite are not considered bluechippers, as ranked by a group of scouts. They may get there, but aren't there yet.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:22 pm EST

Rhet: I think it was the end of their shift, also, you cant play the 4th line for 2 min solid....I would imagine the 4th line was on its way out the next shift....

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:21 pm EST

Ranger47: The rangers have 8 players with 15 or more goals (McD has 14 and Pouliot has 13) there are 7 with 20 or more assists (one with 19) with a total of 17 in double digit assists. I would bet Miller would have at least 10 and 10 if he had played the full season. then you have a couple guys in the AHL (Lindberg and fast) who can step in to the 3rd.4th line if needed.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:20 pm EST

The NHL Department of player safety has reviewed Alex Burrows' hit on Ryan McDonagh from last night and has determined that it is not worthy of a suspension. (Larry Brooks)

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:14 pm EST

My mistake on a couple guys....the site I was on hadn't updated all the stats...but in any case, I was able to find 7 of the guys you mentioned who have played or are playing in the AHL this year. The rest are in junior, Europe or went direct to the NHL...or have less than one year in the AHL...so again, proving that guys ready for the top 6, top 4 or in net at the NHL level are not sitting waiting in the AHL.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:14 pm EST

Just to play Devils advocate, the injury occurred with :45 seconds left in the game. Vancouver sent out Kassian and Burrows while we had Zuccarello and St. Louis out there. What was AV thinking? With less than a minute to go (up 3-1), why wasn't our fourth line out there in case things got ugly at the end of the game?

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:05 pm EST

aren't team tough enough...

Ranger47


Wed Apr 2 2014 3:04 pm EST

Wild: I hope you are right. But as we come down the home stretch the POs and then into those games we can expect the physicality and intimidation factor to grow factorally against us. And, like many others here, I am concerned that we are "team tough" enough (nor deep enough in talent/players) to overcome PO injuries inflicted on us. I expect us to try to address this over the summer. But hopefully you're right about this team, this year.

Ranger47


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:59 pm EST

RF4L: I didn't even look at them all...and quickly I found you defeated your own argument. Vatanen and Rakell are in the NHL lineup...Rakell hasn't played a game in the AHL. Drouin is in junior not the AHL, Vasilevskiy is in the NHL and has not played a lick of AHL hockey, Teravainen from Finland to the NHL, again no AHL, and Wennberg is across the pond...so with out looking at the rest, I don't know the percentage of them that are in the AHL that you listed...but you are proving the point that top 6, possible starting goalies, and top 4 D are not on teams AHL rosters. By using your standard the Rangers also have Duclair, Buchnevich(sp) McIlrath, and Skjei along with Miller in the system. The point is however, teams dont have top 6 F top 4 D top 2 G in the AHL...with a few exceptions ( especially in net were its better to have a young guy getting games in most cases) the AHL has very few players who will be anything more than 3rd and 4th line players, or at least few that can step in to the NHL RIGHT NOW and play top 6 minutes.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:47 pm EST

MFred -- I remember that, I think it was Gretzky and Kevin Haller... not even the great Bill Berg came to his aid

Gibbo


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:46 pm EST

The Rangers, to their credit, do have 1 in that mixture: JT Miller. THN rated him the 23rd best prospect.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:45 pm EST

And here is this....people want to act like the Rangers cant win because they don't respond enough, and do not do all those, what I call macho things. But they are 11-8-1-0 in the last 20 and 25-13-1-1 in the last 40. That's up there with top teams like the Pens who everyone loves to point to as a team that the Rangers should be afraid of...both teams play in the same NHL against the same teams, why is it that the Rangers are a barely there team but the PENs are set near the top of the pile. makes ZERO sense....the Rangers ARE a top team in the east, and would have a chance against any team in a 7 game series...would I bet the house on them beating the top teams? Of course not, those top 2 or 3 teams are good, but would I be shocked if the Rangers beat one of those top teams? Hell no, not if they play well and play their game.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:45 pm EST

York: I've already stated this, but here's a few: Tampa with Drouin and Vasilevskiy; Anaheim with Gibson, Vatanen and Rackell (all playing on their AHL farm team BTW); Buffalo with Ristolainen and Zadorov; Chicago with Teravainen; Columbus with Wennberg; Detroit with Mantha; Edmonton with Nurse; Nashville with Forsberg; Islanders with Strome and Griffin; Ottawa with Lazar; Philly with Laughton; Phoenix with Domi; Pittsburgh with Pouloit; St Louis with Jaskin and Allen; Vancouver with Horvat; Washington with Kuznetkov and Burakovksy.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:42 pm EST

York18....you're right about the equipment and that changing the mentality as well as the current Coaching culture......I mean Carcillo looks like his positining himself for the lady Bing for god's sake.

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:38 pm EST

Have to side with the majority here......imagine if that was done to Leetch! No way would there not have been immediate retribution....I remember Gretzky getting pounded and no one stepping up. One of the most embarrasing periods in ranger History......right up there with the dale Rolfe fiasko!

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:37 pm EST

KIS I'll call BS once again, players got run on this team no matter who we had on the bench, wanna know why? Because they were on the bench. Hell I remember Bure running a few of our guys in the cup finals. Why do you think Graves had to fight because guys went after Mess, well knowing who we had they still did it.

York18


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:35 pm EST

Wild: Would you prefer to have McI in the lineup or in the minors?

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:34 pm EST

RANGER47 I agree and disagree, I think a huge problem with respect comes from the gear itself. You are sending players out there from day one dressed with so much gear that they feel like they are a tank. The respect factor is just gone. I still have my old gear and you look at the elbow pads I used to wear to todays and they are twice the size. Why do you need elbow pads that are twice the size? They become weapons, the shoulder pads are twice as large as they used to be, the funny thing is the only thing that has gotten smaller is the gloves. Gloves used to be larger and now they are smaller. Kids wear full cages from day one now and sticks can go flying because there is no fear of injuring someone. The respect factor is lost from day one now...............KIS have to disagree Nash is playing afraid against everyone not just certain teams, he has a problem, he is not the norm, but rather the exception not a good example, as for Mac, he is a different breed and he will go after anyone, but with that being said that will also force AV to not use him knowing AV and his use of players. Carcillo was way more of a dirty player prior to being here, would fight way more and I don't think he's lost his game, he has been reigned in..........RF4L still waiting on that list of teams hiding all those blue chippers.

York18


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:33 pm EST

I figured it was going to be serious.....well that's part of the game, dirty players abound. Wonder if they sent that hit into the league. Caknuckleheads were definitely gunning for McD.....Kesler bouncing his head off the ice was the start. So if our shithead GM has done his job we will have an able bodied replacement who will not win us games but at least not cost us any! So I'm guessing Staal and Girardi get reunited, Stralman, Klein, Diaz, Falk, Moore.....so with those guys around you can forget about a McIlrath callup, which is probably for the best.

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:32 pm EST

Kis: Of course he is...but I bet my life that he knows for certain that having the rest of the team goons would not stop that hit from happening in the first place....the guys who put up those big hits (for the most part) are not guys who are concerned with fighting. They don't do it, and if they do, well they are not afraid of it. If they were afraid of it they wouldn't play on the edge. And even though I am sure its on his mind, he is still taking hits to make plays, going into the slot and driving the net hard. So he is fine.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:31 pm EST

KIS/R47: Or 2 years ago (before the POs)....

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:31 pm EST

Never would have happened Ranger. Beuk graves Mess Kocur many others would have gone after that guy.

KIS


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:31 pm EST

Oops...there being in Edmonton....

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:30 pm EST

Ranger47: That change in culture (from goons riding shotgun and a code that said big stars were left alone) started the final year the Messier was there (1991). I recall for the first time in a series the Oilers had against Dallas, Messier being hit all over the place. I'd never really seen that before. Yeah, sometimes stars got hit, but never in a planned targeted manner. It was effective, too. Messier clearly was impacted. It didn't blossom from there overnight, but slowly crept into the game where now, anyone is open season and why having players who can respond remains important. In other words, it's changed from goons riding shotgun to having players who can play, but are tough and are capable of fighting. I find it incredulous that folks are arguing this after we got to enjoy the Rangers of 2 years ago where more often than not 3 fighters were dressed and anything nasty that occurred on the ice was almost immediately addressed (usually by Prust, but he was backed up by Rupp and Bickel). Equally amazing is the fact that the Rangers history is marred by teams prone to intimidation tactics and their best success in the past 20 years was with teams that had players capable and ready to step in (94 team and then 2 years ago). Oh well, to each his/her own I guess.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:27 pm EST

Can you imagine that happening to our '94 Cup team???!

Ranger47


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:26 pm EST

Yorkie, I agree if that garbage is going on during the game you target the other teams best player but what Burrows did he shouldn't have left that ice so easily. He should have been given a beat down. Could you imagine something like that hapening to Philly, Boston, St louis , and so many other teams.

KIS


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:18 pm EST

The NHL has been (IMHO) very inconsistent in how it's handled this issue of violence. Back in the 50s guys like Howe and Ferguson took care of themselves and teammates to the point the no other true enforcer was needed - though some existed just in case things got out of hand. Then we get to the Broad Street Bullies 70s where the NHL turned its head and allowed players to mug and maul each other (I believe because the NHL thought that was what attracted fans). Then we get to the skilled Edmonton Oilers dynasty where Gretzky went relatively untouched thanks to McSorley and team which could physically take care of itself (like Mess given you a mouthful of stick if needed). The Cup Isles were built in a similar way with Gillies being the equivalent of McSorley for Bossy and Trottier like Mess. Evolve the NHL to today and we see little respect between players who are willing to hurt one another because they have been taught from youth that you try to win the war by inflicting injury during individual skirmishes (games). And with the cap and other rule changes it's hard to keep a true enforcer on the team and be competitive skill and speed wise. IMHO it's a mess and as suggested here stricter punishments need to be handed out to violaters. Wait until the playoffs which have become increasingly violent and injuring your opponents top players become an unspoken objective to win series. Players need to stand up for one another and themselves - especially when you have a smaller, less physical team like the Rangers. I hope AV and the players discussed this in the dressing room. Had McD been seriously injured in the last minute of last night's game out of revenge by a frustrated Canuck team that is not going to make the playoffs that would have been criminal....

Ranger47


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:15 pm EST

Wild if you don't think Nash plays without a fear of being knocked out again.... I don't know???

KIS


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:13 pm EST

No reason McIlrath shouldn't be up. If he comes up watch how the tone will change. Not saying he is super man but with him Carcillo and Dorsett teams will think about all the bullshit that has been going on. Put Carcillo back with stepan and Nash. They need to feel protected as well. Look the one game he is with them Nash gets 2 goals and Step had 3 assists.

KIS


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:10 pm EST

Many conflicting reports regarding McD....Don't like this at all...That little prick Burrows possibly did some serious damage to our chances....McD playing as well as any D in the league right now....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:07 pm EST

Great...it worked, though. Opposition targeted him the last 3 games and now he's out for a couple of weeks. Wait until he returns in the first round against the Flyers - they'll be running him like crazy. And the Rangers will stand around watching no doubt.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:05 pm EST

MCD out rest of regular season and possibly first few games of PO..... no shoulder separation or tears...source: my buddy from the Post.. {not BROOKS]

NYR7


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:57 pm EST

PJ: Yes for sure - dunno who was thinking we are talking about the days of yore. The NHL (and NHLPA) enables intimidation intentionally - you just have to look at the weak suspensions handed out for acts of goonery and violence. The bulk of that crap would be eliminated from the game if suspensions were stiffer (ie 10 games first infraction, then double it until after the 4th (which would be 80 games) you ban the player for life. And add to that valid team penalties - for example, after x number of suspensions in a single season, you lose your next first round pick. That's how you eliminate that crap and help reduce the overall intimidation factor prevalent in too many NHL games still. Intimidation can never been totally eradicted, but it be reduced. Not in the NHL where a bunch of dinosaurs and men with little foresight remain in charge.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:53 pm EST

York: On the intimidation angle - I disagree wholeheartedly so let's leave it at that. And me never being wrong? Wrong again dude - I have said on here many times I'm wrong. And you are the last one who should be saying anything on that subject - when you are arguing and don't like the argument being presented against your point (whether not the point is a solid one), you more often than not respond with sarcasm and abuse.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:50 pm EST

Times have changed for sure...I agree with that but the Rangers need for an McL on the team and toughness like they had a couple of years ago still exists...The players need to know someone has their back....I see several players who are far more brave against certain teams as RF4L cited....I believe this problem will surface in round one vs the Flyers....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:40 pm EST

PJ those days are over, you're talking about a different time in the NHL. A time where players policed themselves and games could and would get out of hand especially in a place like Philly. This is todays kinder gentler get in touch with your feminine side NHL. It's crazy to think there was a time when you had a Kocur and Probert on the same team playing in the same game, that would never happen in todays NHL

York18


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:36 pm EST

PJ: You are talking about a different era in Hockey...players now are not afraid. The mental makeup of players today is so far and above what it used to be when you looked across the board. Its the same as the people who say there are LESS skilled players today than in decades past...another misnomer...the top players from that time talk all the time about how the 3rd/4th line players today would have been stars back in the day due to their skating and shooting ability. Its all about the time the players play in. Today there is not a team out there who is afraid to get on the ice. The Bruins don't scare anyone, sure they can physically dominate, but that has nothing to do with the other team being afraid.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:33 pm EST

I thought the reason why Ranger players don't retaliate was due to Tortorella not allowing them to.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:27 pm EST

York: You also run the risk that another cheap players sees you go after their top guy and decides his team is better off taking a 2 min penalty for running Hank, and then the impact happens "funny" and you lose Hank to injury. Its a risky thing, it can get out of control and you have a mess. That is why ESPECIALLY right before the playoffs you don't do that in a game like last night with 45 seconds less against a non-playoff team. Situations matter...even if most here don't seem to think so.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:25 pm EST

I have heard players say they were intimidated going to places like Philly....You touched Bossy or Trottier and Gillies, Nystrom etc come after you... Retaliating against the other teams better players is certainly the right option....Doing nothing is not....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:21 pm EST

Here's a little food for thought for all you let's go ape crap on cheap shot guys, what you guys actually don't get is cheap shot artists want exactly that response. They want to draw you in and for you to take penalties against them. They want to enrage you and force you to focus on them and to take stupid penalties that is their job. You want to send your message punching burrows doesn't do it, you go after a Sedin in return. You target their best player, that's it that is the only way to put a stop to that kind of play, going after cheap shot artists does nothing to help you win the game at all. Ask any cheap shot player and they will tell you this.

York18


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:15 pm EST

RF4L funny you should add yourself to that list of not ever being wrong mr stacking up top 6 talent in the AHL. Players getting intimdated? There are bigger, and stronger players out there on certain matchups but if you have ever played the game at a competitive level then you know teams don't get intimidated that's just BS made up by well, people like you.

York18


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:14 pm EST

A team spokesperson told Steve Zipay that it is "inaccurate" to characterize McDonagh as being "out indefinitely."

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:04 pm EST

RF4L... Have to disagree, the Bruins won the cup that year because they had a goalie that played like he was the best in the game that year(in the postseason).

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:04 pm EST

RF4L: I am not talking about useless goons...the Leafs get up and "respond" after like every hit...they get into scrums and do everything they can...there are other teams as well that respond after every hit, and it changes nothing. Every time I watch the leafs they are going after some guy for a hit. Sure they don't beat him up, but most of the time the guys doing the hitting are like Neil, they are not going to fight so that's kind of moot. Reacting to teams like the Flyers makes them feel like they are "getting" to you and they just do it more. NHL players are not scared...are they scared to fight a monster? Sure...but they just avoid fighting...guys like Burrows and Cooke, Neil, they will just turtle if they cant feel confident they will win a fight so that is just wiped out, no benefit to having the big guy, they will hit hard and dirty over and over, if they were afraid they would have stopped long ago.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:03 pm EST

Wild...Last word I have on this but can you explain why Dave Semenko played on a line with Gretzky?.....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 1:01 pm EST

BTW, the Bruins are without a doubt the biggest argument on how intimidation tactics can be very effective. Yes, they have good skill and a very good goaltender, but their philosophy is built on physicality, punishment and intimidation. And it works. Clearly. They won the cup 3 years ago, went to the final last year and right now, look like a lock to advance from the east and go the final again. Intimidation works. Intimidation needs to be countered.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:59 pm EST

PJ: Your talking about two completely disconnected things. No matter what the Rangers do, Boston will play the same way. And no I don't think the Rangers were playing intimated....that's something rangers fans "see" when a team plays physical..but if you watch the "tape" of the game, and take emotion out of it, you will see just as many hits taken to make plays as games when the Rangers have been said to be more physical. Sure, do more guys try to get out of the way of Chara and Lucic? OF COURSE that's just smart. But after whistles the last Bruins/Rangers game there were scrums, guys jawing at each other, no one was playing scared. You jsut see that because its your pre-disposed idea, and when the Rangers don't go all macho goon on the Bruins for big hits it means they are intimidated and that the rest of the NHL will see that and attack. But the number of hits given against the Rangers are not off, teams that respond more dont take less hits, or less big hits...for instance, the AVS have a nasty response to big hits that are on the edge (and some that are really good clean hockey hits) this year, but I would be hard pressed to find a team that get players hit harder or bigger or cheaper than the AVS have been this season. Responding has not helped get them any level of protection...they get hit the same way by the same teams over and over and over.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:50 pm EST

Wild: Wrong again. The Leafs are exactly not what you just said they are and indeed, it's part of the problem. They were last year without a doubt and it's the single biggest reason (IMO) that they were finally able to overcome their biggest recent (recent being since Kessel was acquired) nemesis, the Bruins. Dressing the likes of Orr, McLaren and Fraser, they returned every cheapshot and every punch, thereby finally giving their better players room and courage to flourish. And flourish they did, taking the Bruins to the brink of elimination, despite at one time being down 3 games to 1. Only an inexplicable, Leafs centric meltdown in the final 11 minutes of that 7th game prevented their win and that meltdown had nothing to do with the Bruins intimidating them. This year, both Fraser and McLaren are gone and Orr hardly plays and the Leafs are nothing like the edition that played last year. You cite them to back your point, but you've managed to do the opposite. Clearly, you don't watch them. You might want to do a little more research before presenting your arguments next time! ;^)

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:48 pm EST

Wild...So you watched our last game with Boston and don't believe we were physically intimidated?...You are just fooling yourself and are blinded by the nothing can ever be wrong with the Rangers attitude....As for the Leafs they are bad because they are a mess defensively...That is not a secret...Has nothing to do with anything else....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:44 pm EST

PJ: There were 4 games that I watched over the last few days that had big response type things happen EARLY and NOTHING changed. These guys who partake in the play along that edge of dirty are not scored off...There is ZERO to show that retaliating or "responding" helps teams win. One of the biggest response teams out there is the leafs this year....sure has propelled them to the top of the standing...oh wait.....

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:43 pm EST

PJ: More proof about players being aware of teams and individuals who don't tolerate crap is that little asshole Marchand. Against teams that hit him and respond, he's almost always quieter. Does anyone last remember him dragging his stick from the underside over Callahan's balls in last year's POs? I sure do. Do you think he'd so that to Claude Giroux? Ahhh...no.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:40 pm EST

Wild...Iginla didn't do shit to anyone after that fight...Ask the players how they feel when someone on the team steps up....Didn't McI get the Broadway hat after his fight in the brief call up....You answer the bullshit and the game will settle down and hockey will be played...See it time and time again...I believe we are missing that element...

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:31 pm EST

PJ: I have yet to see Boston or the Flyers EVER play with out that SAME physicality....Iginla has been playing that way with out fail for years. You really think they would be in the locker room going "hey, don't hit their star players, did you see them beat up Burrows?" Yeah right. it would be more like "Go after their top guys, they will retaliate and take an extra penalty and give us the PP" I am in security and a Auxiliary Law Enforcement Officer here in Colorado. I have had so many threats, so many times people fight, or try to fight, and you know what, if they come around again, I am harder and faster at putting them in place. If I do less or the same they win. A guy like Iginla, or Lucic, or Burrows, Simmonds whoever, if you go at them for a hit and they dont go for a bigger hit next time out, they lose, they cant allow that, you go back at them, you risk they crossing the line (or crossing it more) to make the point that you didnt scare them.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:26 pm EST

So if it hasn't been reported (and if it has sorry for re-reporting) Brooks reports that McD had no structural damage or separation. But he is out indefinitely. I bet if he HAD to play he could, or would miss "just" one game, but with a "magic number" of 3, and a secondary "magic number" of something like 5 (or is it more than that?) to clinch a division playoff spot, its not a bad idea to rest him regardless until he has at least near 100% ability and lack of pain int he shoulder.

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:18 pm EST

Top....With that logic none of us should be critical of any player or coach unless we have played or coached in the NHL....Girardi is big enough and strong enough to respond...I believe in that situation he should have....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:13 pm EST

Wild....So teams don't watch tape of games we play?....If you believe that you are the one that is stupid....Teams don't try to physically intimidate and succeed at it?....They certainly do and our last game against Boston was all the proof I need....Iginla of all people was getting physical with both Staal and McD with no response....Boston at that point took the game over....Flyers last game against Boston they lost in OT but dominated most of the game....Iginla again attempted to be aggressive and Rinaldo kicked his ass.....We can agree to disagree here but I still state Girardi needs to do more in that situation....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:11 pm EST

Top: LOL...there's all kinds of toughness my friend. Isn't measured solely on the hockey rinks and by professional athletes.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:56 am EST

rf4l I am one of those pasty faced old guys too, I just know what tough is :)

Topovski


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:43 am EST

should have been "through the..."

Ranger47


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:43 am EST

If Tortorella does get fired 1 year, after what can only be termed a failure of a season for the Canucks, I don't believe he'll get another NHL head coaching job offer. Financially, he won't need it anyways (assuming he's not frivolous with his money); after all he signed a 5 year $10,000,000 contract last summer - the buy-out he'll get he can happily retire on.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:42 am EST

RF4L: As a pasty-faced OLD white guy I was feeling pretty good about myself after those comments! :) Top: Yes, no need for being offensive. But, in terms of hockey, I do agree that many of those on the Wall fail to appreciate how really tough all hockey players have to be to get on the ice and compete at those speeds against others with size, strength and occasionally erratic meanness and stupidity. But, having lived the the Dale Rolfe mugging those many years ago and the shame of teammates not responded to the bell, it is disgraceful that no one responded with snarl and immediate retaliation to the hit on McDonough.

Ranger47


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:36 am EST

I agree with you 100% on how Torts helped move this team forward in terms of effort, commitment to team and sacrifice. However, don't you think that his stint with the Canucks means that anyplace else he might go to in the immediate future would have those players questioning his methods and not "buying in" to his message? IMHO he gets canned after the season and will need to take 2-3 years off before any GM considers hiring him again (outside of the KHL).

Ranger47


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:26 am EST

'Pasty faced middle aged white guys'? Geesh, such bigotry. That's as intolerable, IMO, as the ghetto and nappy haired comments. What are you Top? Young and Asian?

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:20 am EST

WILD.... I kind of expect Ryan McDonagh to play tomorrow. Like Mark Messier said, the guy is a warrior. Besides, even If it was a dislocated shoulder, there are varying degrees. Some just pop back in and you can play with it (even despite some strength loss). I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:13 am EST

On Boomer and Carton this morning, Mark Messier was asked by Boomer Esiason if he thought McDonagh could be the next captain of the Rangers. Messier responded by saying, "the only thing better than the deal that got McDonagh from Montreal is the contract they just signed him to. They got him at an unbelievable price fro what he is growing into. To me, Ryan McDonagh is the epitome of what a Ranger is, what a hockey player stands for. He plays every night, consistent, tough, strong , durable. He brings offense and I look at him as a future Norris Trophy winner, a captain of the team, a leader in every way and you win championships with Ryan McDonagh. What an unbelievable deal it was for the Rangers."

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:12 am EST

cant help but laugh about the pasty middle-aged white guys here talking about the lack of toughness by Girardi. Every one of these players has reached the level of toughness you cant even imagine so get over it.

Topovski


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:08 am EST

Ola: I think you have hit the nail on the head with Torts. The game seems to have left him behind, at least in part. HOWEVER, the Rangers had Renney, and he helped bring the team to respectability, but they played with little identity and no edge, and did not play at anything near 100% effort. Enter Torts who brought a style that forced players to work harder in the off-season, got them to put in major efforts and to sacrifice for the team. That attitude was instilled on some young players who are big parts of the team now. So now AV gets to reap the benefits of what Torts did. Another team out there has a group of young players that don't want to, or know how to play with that hard edge, a guy like Torts can bring that, and elevate the level of commit and "try hard" to a group. Look at the Oilers, or the Panthers, two teams that have talented players who are young but they don't play hard at all for the most part. Bring a guy like Torts in, give him 2-3 years to beat the idea of hard work, conditioning and sacrifice into the team, then get a more level headed coach (Like AV) to take over with a good foundation. That will be Torts from now on...he may even win a cup or two if things work out and timing is right....nothing wrong with that really, he has his place in the NHL....

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 11:03 am EST

RF4L: It took me reading it twice...but it was understood. LOL

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 10:48 am EST

Oops..contradiction: Should have said - who will never ever be convinced of being wrong...anyways, my point is obvious, I assume.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 10:47 am EST

Higgy21- From my point of view, I think its quite obvious that Torts has failed to adopt to how the game is played after the lock-out. We got some results with him when he had a team custom-made for him, but truth to be told we looked god awful most of the time. Living on Hank and shot-blocking. HOWEVER, Torts can kick ass. Someone will sooner or later be attracted by that. Be it a team like EDM or some other GM that thinks his team needs a kick in the rear. I wouldn't be suprised to see TOrts get a job again.

Ola


Wed Apr 2 2014 10:31 am EST

I think i remember one GIrardi fight when he saw a team mate get lit up by a big check and he just dropped the gloves immediately......He actually did well in the scuffle....if i remember correctly

TradeStar28


Wed Apr 2 2014 10:25 am EST

100% disagree, but we can agree to disagree. I've learned there are some on here, yourself included (with all due respect) who will never ever refuse to be convinced of being wrong. So be it...

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 10:15 am EST

Rhet: With the cautious mentality of sports now a days (for the most part anyway) McD could have had full movement, and limited pain minutes after he left the ice, and they decided to have him immobilize it for 24-36 hours to make sure any swelling or such would go down. Now I am by no means making a diagnosis, but its a possibility, also, when he left the ice his shoulders were level...USUALLY even with a mild separation there is a tilt one way or the other...it at the very least didn't look "bad"

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 10:10 am EST

With TORTORELLA most likely being fired, and no other team even looking at him, could he end up back with the Rangers front office. We know Dolan loves him, and it would be quite entertaining if Torts did Postgames with Pidto or we get rid of MICHILETTI, and he called games with Rosen. He worked on TSN and we know he has no filter.

Higgy21


Wed Apr 2 2014 10:09 am EST

PJ: Yes go after Burrows because you will be playing the Flyers....how stupid. If the hit came from a Flyer I would say that a response was worth more risk. There was no reward on the line, just risk last night. The situation matters, so the time of year, if you will see the team again, if the game is early or late. There are many moving parts. last night with less than a minute left against a team that will not be played again this year with your top Dman on the ice injured, and your second best D the closest to respond quickly, and what is arguably the best forward like with Zuccs line out there you do not risk any more injuries. Not worth it in THIS case. Anyway, in regards to the Flyers...they WANT you to respond. Once you start responding to big hits, clean or not, they start to bang bodies MORE hoping to draw you into an extra penalty. Thats how they win, its how they have won. Teams that beat them dont do it by being nastier or by responding, they win by being tough, being willing to take hits, going to the hard places, and letting them sit int he box when they cross the line. It might not look as great to those who think you need to respond...but I will take a playoff series win over a couple of character wins and a playoff series loss, but being able to say "but we responded and stood up for the boys!"

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 9:59 am EST

We've been down this road multiple times with Girardi. It's simply not in his DNA. During his seven seasons and over 500 career games, he's been in five fights. Although it frustrates the hell out of me, I've given up getting mad at the guy for his lack of response. If he follows old patters, he's now embarrassed and will get into a meaningless scuffle over the next game or two to atone.

VtRanger


Wed Apr 2 2014 9:36 am EST

Hit did not look so dirty to me but, Girardi is still a pussy the team is soft we already knew that!!!!

vcp1994


Wed Apr 2 2014 8:54 am EST

Rhet: Hopefully a mild separation if so. Problem is even it's mild, if he comes back to early, he'll be very prone to reinjury and probably a worse injury.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 8:45 am EST

Per Pat Leonard Ryan Mcdonagh's left arm was in a sling. Dislocated shoulder anyone?

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 8:10 am EST

Wild...Yes ignore the hit on your best player because you are afraid of getting hurt when retaliating...You have to be kidding me....Why don't you and Girardi go dress shopping...It was pathertic to watch actually...We will play the Flyers in the first round of the playoffs....This type of thing will have to be answered or we will be run out of the building....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 7:45 am EST

If someone hit the best player on my dek hockey team here in NC.......I would go ape shit...and probably get suspended.....Now, if i was being paid from $1MM to $8MM a year to play hockey......I would have tried to injure the opponent who did that.

TradeStar28


Wed Apr 2 2014 7:33 am EST

Just saw the hit: It was a dirty cheapshot known for dirty cheapshots. The mentality of the never-pushback wimp-ass Rangers was epitomized by Girardi girl-like push at Burrows. Geesh, Girardi should have run Burrows head-first into the boards. The rest of the NHL cheapshot artists will all see this play and the Rangers lack of response and rub their hands with glee.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 7:29 am EST

BTW, during the regular season 2 years ago, did we see anything like this, when Prust, Rupp and Bickel regularly dressed and dropped the gloves? Ahhh, no. We did see in the POs, however, when for whatever reason, the latter 2 hardly played and Prust was strangely neutered (specially, BB was targeted and eventually concussed into submission).

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 7:27 am EST

Geesh Wild, are you serious? McD in the past 3 games has been attacked by Simmonds, had to take a maintenance day for a stick to face and now this. It's no coincidence that this has happened as McD's play has escalated and with it, noise about being a Norris trophy candidate has increased. It's the way of the NHL - target the opposition's best player with the intention of intimidating him into submission. A team experiencing that MUST step up to protect that player. Ignoring it, as the Rangers are currently, will result in 1 of 2 things: 1) McD gets seriously hurt (if he isn't already) OR 2) McD's play suffers - one can only take so much abuse. As the POs approach and then start, this crap will only get worse and won't be limited to McD. It's time this stupid regime grow some balls and start dressing someone who strikes fear in the opposition. You can poo-poo this all you want WIld, but IMO it's just you burying your head in a Ranger sandhill of false bliss.

RF4L


Wed Apr 2 2014 7:22 am EST

Chris McCarthy is a 6-1 205 lbs. center originally from Collegeville, Pennsylvania. SBN College Hockey had McCarthy ranked 30th overall, and second among undrafted prospects (behind only draft-eligible goalie Thatcher Demko) on their list of the Top 100 Prospects in the NCAA this season. Here's what they had to say about McCarthy's game: 30. Chris McCarthy, Forward, Vermont (Free Agent).... The USNTDP product has had to overcome several serious injuries since his arrival in Burlington, but he saved his best for last in his senior campaign. The Collegeville, Pa. native is a power forward that can play both ends of the ice at the next level. He's very strong on the puck, has a good shot and has deceptively good hands. He has two shorthanded goals and has been very effective in his own end killing penalties and taking care of defensive responsibilities.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 2 2014 7:18 am EST

Meanwhile back in Tampa.....Callahan scores his 6th.....and he's still not worth $6M at 6 years!!!!!

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 2 2014 7:15 am EST

Nice win!...I'm tired.

RF73


Wed Apr 2 2014 5:33 am EST

Of course! True ranger fan stupidity. Let's root for a useless fight to get retribution! Yeah that will show the NHL and stop the Burrows, and Cookes of the world. Oh...and no player, or more specifically no Ranger has ever hurt, let's say his shoulder in a "I'm tougher than you are" scuffle. Oh yeah...that's right Cally got hurt. So let's have a member of one of the best lines (the Zucc line was out) or Girardi get hurt trying to make fans feel good about the response to a stupid pricks dirty hit. Because when your top D is hurt on the ice nothing says smart like having your number 2 D risk injury...and late in the season with that. Guess what, it would have been a useless act add to that the linesmen we all over that quick. There was a scrum, but who was going to fight...from either team?

Wildcard


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:26 am EST

Zip: initial diagnosis on McD, not serious.

Messier11


Wed Apr 2 2014 2:21 am EST

If AV sat Diaz, then he also sat Klein. To me, it just seems like he favored Stralman, kept him with Staal. A message in itself.

Messier11


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:03 am EST

because we could have gotten away with more

Messier11


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:03 am EST

Looks like AV not so thrilled with Diaz in his own zone....Sat for long stretches in this one....

PJ


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:03 am EST

but sucker punching someone is more than just a shove. I agree: not enough

Messier11


Wed Apr 2 2014 12:02 am EST

I didn't say it was a haymaker.

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:59 pm EST

Yeah right that was a real bomb...Burrows was staggering after that....A pathetic and typical Ranger reaction to a cheap shot with intent to injure....Sad........

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:59 pm EST

http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?type=lea#&navid=nav-stn-league

mf


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:55 pm EST

he punched him in the jaw with a gloved hand from behind. Obviously he deserved it and expected it to come from somewhere, but that is a definition of a sucker punch.

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:54 pm EST

MFred agreed.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:52 pm EST

Like most of you I agree that was a totally insufficient response on that Burroughs cheap shot!! He should not have just skated off under his own power!! BTW this game became close and the momentum shifted once Vancouver started taking the body. We really started to struggle! This does not bode well for the playoffs.

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:49 pm EST

andrei....Rip the damn helmet off...Slam him to the ice and pound him....Trust me other teams would have answered...

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:47 pm EST

Graves would have attacked Borrows, Messier probably would have crosschecked him in the teeth.

mf


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:46 pm EST

PJ, yes. Girardi should have dropped gloves and while doing it, break his finger or his hand over the visor that Burrow is wearing. Then rangers will be without a top pair d-man...

andrei


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:45 pm EST

......oh no.....the WHAMMY, what was I thinking?!

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:43 pm EST

Suckered him?...He may as well have hugged him....Drop the gloves and beat the crap out of him....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:41 pm EST

Girardi suckered Burrows, but probably could have gotten away with more

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:39 pm EST

For crying out loud Burrows doesn't get out of there that easy....Girardi you give the guy a shove after that you woman....He crushed your D partner and the best player on the team....Zucc was the most upset....AV is smiling after the game?....I would have been insane after that hit on McD....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:37 pm EST

Mfred I blame you asking about who is injured;-)

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:36 pm EST

waiting on the celebration until we get the OK on McD

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:35 pm EST

Another cheap shot and basically no response.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:34 pm EST

Your kidding....McD gets injured great.

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:34 pm EST

Oh happy day foolerella./. How's sullyerella ?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:32 pm EST

FUCK FUCk FUCK

NYStranger


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:32 pm EST

Doesn't the puck have to cross the goal line BEFORE the icing call is made?

NYStranger


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:32 pm EST

Doesn't the puck have to cross the goal line BEFORE the icing call is made?

NYStranger


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:28 pm EST

Nyr goal trick ...a 5on 5 a pp and a shortie ...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:24 pm EST

Moore w Richards and MSL? That's stupid......

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:23 pm EST

Mfred veenyo is using the line generator again in honor of fumerella... Nobody is injured besides kid k....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:19 pm EST

Thought Nash was crazy to pass the puck, but it finally worked. How come Torts never smiled that big when we scored a goal when he was the coach of NYR?

Higgy21


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:19 pm EST

Stevielegs....Beer is chillin :>) so why is Moore not C the 4th line and both Carcillo and Dorsett are in? Who's hurt??

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:18 pm EST

Msl go over and thank his former Tampa coach ?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:16 pm EST

What a first for MSL! About Effing time!

Wildcard


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:15 pm EST

IT BEGINS

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:15 pm EST

Mfred thanks for tuning in luck

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:15 pm EST

Even TORTS was saying FINALLY

Higgy21


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:15 pm EST

MSL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vic


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:14 pm EST

Shorty St. Louis

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:14 pm EST

Yay! MSL

TradeStar28


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:14 pm EST

EM ES EL !!!

mf


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:14 pm EST

MSL!!!!!!Finally!!!!

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:12 pm EST

Just tuned in, is there an injury? Can't figure out where Moore is?

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:04 pm EST

It's still April fools day in Vancouver ...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:00 pm EST

Is Nash playing?

RDW


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:51 pm EST

Carcillo and Dorsett are more dangerous than MSL....Not enough intensity for the Rangers in this game....Win a period and get out of there.....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:47 pm EST

think this could turn into a blowout if we can just score on this power play

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:45 pm EST

As soon as Vancouver starts to get physical the rangers have trouble. They did not have puck control very much in the second. Especially the Nash line which IMO has been pretty week lately. Even before the Kreider injury. That was a cheep horse collar by D. Sedin on McD where he hit the back of his head. Better play the 4th line 10 minutes in the 3rd!

NYStranger


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:41 pm EST

SL: you get a pass! ;-)

mf


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:38 pm EST

"Torterella is mostly going with three lines." From the department of "Duh"

ColoradoMark


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:38 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2014/04/01/chris-kreiders-injury-has-exposed-rangers-vulnerability/

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:38 pm EST

Mf how often do you exorcize ?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:29 pm EST

Play is getting a little loose

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:29 pm EST

Play is getting a little loose

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:27 pm EST

StevieLegos: This you? http://nypost.com/2014/04/01/priest-warns-new-legos-tools-of-evil-can-destroy-kids-souls/

mf


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:21 pm EST

Come on MSL....Even Carcillo is scoring.....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:19 pm EST

Nice having a RHS over by the left FO circle ......

mf


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:17 pm EST

Too much time in our end....Hank should have had that one though....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:01 pm EST

What's lacks first name ex?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:00 pm EST

Emery named player of game before so... Way to go nbc nothing but crap... Maybe they changed it after the loss....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:59 pm EST

Like the score but too sloppy in our end....Hank sharp tonight...Need more shots on the Lackey....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:58 pm EST

Guess I predicted mixing up blews and chips ... Want the winning pick 6 numbers? ....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:52 pm EST

yeah sorry about that, guys. don't know what happened there

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:47 pm EST

at least STL took the second point away from Flyers, would have liked the regulation win at home though

jim9k26


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:47 pm EST

OMG Stralman takes out Kassian???

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:44 pm EST

Car-bomb go Boom! The look on Torts' face after the goal was priceless. You could almost see him thinking "Hey Sully, have we ever tried that and BTW: who the F is that little #36 out there?"

PatrickDiv


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:40 pm EST

Isn't Emery from Ghetto U. ?

mf


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:39 pm EST

Torts you asswipe, thats what a Power Play looks like...... cheers

mf


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:38 pm EST

Poo Poo.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:23 pm EST

Chris Higgins? Never heard of him.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:17 pm EST

DAN CARCILLO!!!!

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:12 pm EST

MSL. It's time.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:57 pm EST

Blews win in so wow big deal

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:57 pm EST

Devils lose another shootout....Go have some wings Chico....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:48 pm EST

Oh joy msg more shit games.... Have wait for the Debbies to finish their bs .... And the fishstink on msg2 alias squared .... Can they please send dickaletti back to them.... He can take the nose and with howie rose they can be the 3 stooges with faces for radio...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:46 pm EST

I would rather play Tampa, Montreal or especially Detroit. (I know we cant) However, I would prefer Philly over Pittsburgh, even before the Orpik hit on Toews.

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:46 pm EST

I believe our goaltending would give us an edge versus Flyers....That said we wouldn't have much left after the series....It would be very physical....My wife is a Flyer fan and from the area so it would be very intense in my home....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:41 pm EST

I was hoping the Jackets won. I'd like to see them overtake Philly. Or us for that matter. I want to avoid the Flyers. I live in Phila and would not enjoy that series, or even watch it.

Nick


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:34 pm EST

Avs nice comeback beat Jackets in OT....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:33 pm EST

Ola, Rangeritis it is ... only Messier I and Jagr (for a year) were immune.

Nick


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:30 pm EST

Flyers-Blues 0-0 late second. I want NO part of Philly in the first round but it seems unavoidable. I'd rather finish 7th and take Pitt. They suck lately and Fleury could have another post-season meltdown.

Nick


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:28 pm EST

Flyers iced Emery against the Blues. Ballsy. Haven't watched a lot of Blues games this season. They are noticeably slower than us.

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:03 pm EST

Let's Go Blues.....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 7:18 pm EST

Cool Beanzzzz - Let's Go Bloooooze !

mf


Tue Apr 1 2014 6:48 pm EST

Mess, tonight I'm an honorary fan of the Blues, Avs, and Dallas. And if they don't win......f$&! 'em!

jratelle19


Tue Apr 1 2014 6:29 pm EST

St. Louis vs Philadelphia. All you guys are honorary Blues fans tonight, right?

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 5:37 pm EST

Well they haven't played in the playoffs under AV so I would wait before saying he is a better playoff coach for this team....Torts did win a few playoff games the last 3 years....Rangers had went as far as they were going to with Torts....Jury is still out on AV in my opinion....

PJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 4:09 pm EST

that should say "with the competitors team being less in our D"....

Ranger47


Tue Apr 1 2014 4:08 pm EST

One other difference under AV; although the team does block shots they have been much more injury free this year. Also contributing to this is spending a lot more time in the offensive zone (i.e delivering hits our avoiding them) with the competitors D and forwards cheating in on us in our D zone (resulting in less pounding on us there as well).

Ranger47


Tue Apr 1 2014 4:00 pm EST

... And he is classless trailer park trash. A dirtbag and bully. jMO

_Arc


Tue Apr 1 2014 3:57 pm EST

RJ- I compare the two in the basic FAcT that the team currently plays attractive hockey with great passing. This is a far different team (although same players) that the one that OLA came here after watching them when they were I Europe a couple years ago and said it was the 'Worst passing team" team in the nHL. Torts ran the team into the ground and played safe uninspired hockey (read boring as hell) which resulted in a team that just couldn't turn it up a notch when playoffs came around. I think this team has much more potential to go further than ANY team coached by torts

_Arc


Tue Apr 1 2014 3:15 pm EST

And, I agree that Torts is a complete asshole and deserves all the shit he has to take. I think they call that Karma.

RJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 3:13 pm EST

stevie - well maybe not totally unfair, but it is simplifying things too much. Torts Rangers were the #6 seed last year. AVs team will be the 5th or 6th seed this year. Doesn't look like a big difference to me.

RJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 2:59 pm EST

Anyways, I hope your last point is valid (that it's only a rumour). There's some sanity to it, however, given Sather's sordid history in such matters.

RF4L


Tue Apr 1 2014 2:42 pm EST

My point here is that is likely NOT the case. Instead, if these rumours are true, it's because stupid Sather and his management team see a loophole to have him turn pro and rather than let the kid develop at his own pace against reasonable competition, are prepared to err like they did with Blackburn, Graham, MDZ, Grachev and now Miller. What the hell is the rush anyways? Like it's really helped JT Miller make the team....

RF4L


Tue Apr 1 2014 2:38 pm EST

Wild: You've got your Ranger-coloured glasses on dude. I'm not going to dispute your claim about what went down at that college, but justifying having a 19 year old turn pro when he's had 1/2 year of junior that occurred after a 1/2 year of college flame-out is really refusing to look at things objectively. First, he can't go the UFA this summer. He's got to wait another year and then, I believe, goes back in the draft (not clear on that). And if this is a kid, a 3rd rounder with middling success so far in his amateur career, with his head so far up his ass that he's prepared to hold his NHL team over the barrel like that, then to hell with him. He's a prima-donna and at this point, far from a bluechip prospect.

RF4L


Tue Apr 1 2014 2:32 pm EST

"totally unfair" ? .....then you can't compare any coaches, and maybe throw in genius gms......they both coached the nyr with similar and different results, same with the vc......but it's not about comparing really......the guy calls himself an idiot to sarcastically imply he's a smart coach....to me he has abilities as a coach, but it's more his personality and head issues that are his real problems... and his pp specialist.....just glad he's not here anymore.....and veenyo has his own issues which will blossom as time goes on....they all do....that becomes their shelf life......few are perfect or even close.....and not many seem to learn from their mistakes and improve their coaching......but they expect players to.....sather has no expiration date except for maybe 2 , one of his choosing, the other not his choice .....he's Dorian gray.....in his mind......

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 12:56 pm EST

I think comparing Torts and AV is totally unfair. They have different players and play in different divisions. Torts inherited a team on the way down. They've had a lot of injuries. I don't care what anybody says the coach couldn't turn Burrows into a 5 goal scorer. He's either on the steep decline or just having a crappy year. Now, don't get me wrong. I don't like Torts as a person, but to say that AV is a better coach just because of the two teams' records is ridiculous. Different players. Different situations. I don't know if AV is the better coach, but I do know one thing. He's a lot better person to listen to in interviews and I'm sure the writers and broadcasters enjoy working with him a lot more.

RJ


Tue Apr 1 2014 12:39 pm EST

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/vancouver-canucks/Comparing+John+Tortorella+Alain+Vigneault/9683567/story.html

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 12:39 pm EST

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/vancouver-canucks/Canucks+fall+Rangers+rise/9683642/story.html

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 12:27 pm EST

Steve Zipay &#10004; @stevezipay Torts on MSL, Cally and comparisons of he & AV: "We're losing, so I'm the idiot; they're winning, he's the smart guy" http://bit.ly/1fIeZTd ....when will this guy ever get it? ......

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 12:24 pm EST

Expand 19h Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord AV asked repeatedly to comment on Canucks. He would not, said it would not be fair. Jokes he turned MSL into a "defensive specialist."

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 12:16 pm EST

Rangeritis is what any big UFA that we sign gets, they perform well elsewhere but when they come here they suck. At least that's the way I've always seen the term used over the years.

Ola


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:50 am EST

Important Magic Numbers for the Rangers right now. 5 and 8. Five points clinches a playoff spot. Eight points clinches a 2nd or 3rd seed in the Metro. Flipped another way 93 points gets them into the playoffs guaranteed. 98 points gets them a guaranteed 2nd or 3rd spot in the Metro as of today.

Vic


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:38 am EST

vt but they feel better than most nyr fans....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:35 am EST

Stevie: According to Taber's Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary, "Rangeritis" is a medical condition that renders its victims incapable of viewing persons and things associated with the New York Rangers in anything but the most optimistic and positive light. Long-term prognosis for those afflicted is poor, although occasional remission is possible.

VtRanger


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:11 am EST

https://twitter.com/NHL/status/451027262046240768/photo/1

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:11 am EST

NHL &#10004; @NHL If the #StanleyCup Playoffs began today...here's what the match-ups would look like. Learn: http://s.nhl.com/vib4Z pic.twitter.com/cJJTcFVTms

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 11:06 am EST

rangeritis is that like arthritis, painful especially when weather is going to rain? or is that one of the old Greek gods like hepatitis and diabetes?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 10:02 am EST

Wild, I follow college hockey pretty closely and I think your long standing case of Rangeritis has clouded your thinking on Tambellini. I can assure you that the coaches at North Dakota are not morons. Their primary mission is to win NCAA "team" championships. They don't view their primary role as serving as minor league coaches developing individual players for NHL teams. In their quest to win, I know for a fact that NCAA coaches will play a freshman who they think will perform better than a senior. Sentimentality is not a factor. The sad fact is that many young players who tore up their junior leagues and are draft picks of NHL teams suck when they arrive as freshman at an NCAA program. In some cases they are just not ready. Tambellini's fellow leading scorers from his last year in the BCHL are prime examples. In 2013, Mario Puskarich led the BCHL with 41 goals. He was followed by Brady Shaw with 38 and Tambellini with 36. Tambellini started this season at UND. Puskarich and Shaw played for UVM this season. As we know, Tambellini quit UND after a less than stellar start. Puskarich scored 19 goals for UVM and was recently named Hockey East rookie of the year. Shaw, on the other hand, sucked for the first half of the year, but turned it around somewhat to finish with 6 goals. Neither Puskarich nor Shaw are NHL draft picks. Some guys are ready from the get go and some are not. I strongly suspect that Tambellini was not. Perhaps he was the "moron" by choosing to go to a top NCAA program rather than the CHL.

VtRanger


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:58 am EST

yes you did mess

KIS


Tue Apr 1 2014 9:52 am EST

Patrick Roy on The Fan morning show here in Denver for his regular show visit, unsolicited he mentioned Stastny being a tough re-signing...partly due to wanting McKinnon(sp) at center...interesting that the AVS kept Stastny and didn't move him at the deadline, and they may not be signing him....

Wildcard


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:45 am EST

RF4L: I don't think it was he sucked in NCAA, I think its more the coaches were morons and didn't want to use him over an upperclassmen. Look at NCAA hockey, the Junior and Senior years are monster for many many players....and most of the time its not because something clicks, its that they finally get used in the top 6 and on the PP. College sports (and high school for that matter) still have some stupid crap about upper class player (especially seniors) getting more playing time, because they "earned" it or some sentimental crap about it being their last year. I think if Tamballini had been used like a top player he would have produced more like a top player. And as for him turning pro...I have seen those rumors, but they also came out the same time as the ATO news, so maybe someone took that and ran with it when they heard "contract" and assumed it was to turn pro. Also, if he and his agent say "sign me now" and Sather says "pound sand" he will just go back in the draft or become a UFA whichever he is up for....its not all in Sathers hands.

Wildcard


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:30 am EST

http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2014/04/01/rangers-canucks-tonight-10-p-m-pre-game-notes/

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:27 am EST

Vic veenyo professes to believe in lines of duos, with the 3 rd guy not as important. then he ponders taking carcillo away from the dynamic duo. guess he wants it duo ways.....he better get his act together for the playoffs.....he hasn't proven he's a good playoff coach......the pp will make or break them. they can't score 5-4 or 5-3, that's a real problem......the pk is doing more than their job scoring shorthanded. .....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:03 am EST

BTW, it prospect park is citing a report from Calgary saying that Adam Tambellini will likely sign a contract soon and turn pro for this fall. How stupid if so and yet another example of Sather's inexplicably stupid penchant for turning not ready for players pro whenever he's got the chance. This is a kid who sucked at college but had a renaissance after quitting to play Canadian junior hockey. The problem is he's got 37 junior games under his belt and still has another year of eligibility for junior. Why the hell not let him play a full year for the Hitman and see if he can dominate?? I sure hope this report is incorrect. BTW, he's apparently signing an ATO to play for the Pack shortly.

RF4L


Tue Apr 1 2014 8:01 am EST

RF4L: The Rangers PP hasn't been the same for a while. It goes back to at least the Olympics. IMHO there are a few reasons for it. First, AV changed the lineups. Prior to the deadline he moved away from the MZA-BRASSARD-POULIOT line being the #1 PP unit. That line was producing well on the PP. He moved CALLY into that unit in place on POULIOT in front of the goal. It didn't work. After the trade he broke up the lines and put MSL on the PP. MSL's unit became the #1 PP unit and the Rangers have been forcing the puck to him ever since. IMHO the #1 PP unit should be the MZA-BRASSARD-POULIOT line with McSSIAH and DIAZ on the points. The #2 unit should be MSL-STEPAN-NASH with RICHARDS and GIRARDI. If that #2 unit doesn't produce swap MSL and RICHARDS or put MSL on the point and put someone like CARCILLO/BOYLE/MOORE/DD on the wing to battle in front of the goal and do the dirty work.

Vic


Tue Apr 1 2014 7:51 am EST

STEVIE: I agree regarding NASH. You don't measure CARCILLO's impact by how many points he scores. You measure CARCILLO's impact by how many points NASH and STEPAN score. If those two ballerinas put up 5 points a night with CARCILLO on their wing then you run that line out there again the next game. Now all of that could be coincidence but there is no way to know that. If those two just played a little bigger and felt a little more space (even if it wasn't there) then so be it. They need scoring and production from NASH and STEPAN. I don't care how you get it.

Vic


Tue Apr 1 2014 7:48 am EST

So the Rangers PP is sucking. Again. Gee, maybe the lack of top end skill assembled by the incompetent GM has something to do with this after all. How many years has that incompetent had to find a PP QB and has yet to do so? How many years has he had to find a true number 1 center and has yet to do so? How many has he had to find a power winger and has yet to do so?

RF4L


Tue Apr 1 2014 7:37 am EST

I wouldn't change the lines after Nash scored 2 and should have had more. Maybe carcillo made him feel braver? Over tinkering is not always coaching....the nyr had their best games this season when he just left the lines together....and the pp was clicking... That's what he needs to fix.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 1 2014 7:29 am EST

Mess- I think both those line-suggestions make sense. AV obviously want a heavy 1st line, or he would have put MSL or Zucc with Nash. I can understand his thinking. We are short on size though. Before going with Carbomb on the 1st, I would probably have tired Boyle there though...

Ola


Tue Apr 1 2014 4:51 am EST

If we're claiming credit for line combo predictions, I called Hagelin on the Stepan/Nash line right after the Kreider injury, citing the speed factor. York said months ago that Moore had the hands to play on the second/third line.

Messier11


Tue Apr 1 2014 1:31 am EST

Brooks is right in that column on Torts. Torts one big problem is that he hasn't changed his approach on the ice. It's essentially the same as in 03'. No other team is doing that right now, it's just dumb and idiotic.

Ola


Mon Mar 31 2014 11:50 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2014/03/31/rangers-hagelin-moves-to-stepan-line/

stevielegs


Mon Mar 31 2014 11:47 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2014/03/31/good-chance-tortorella-gets-fired-after-this-season/

stevielegs


Mon Mar 31 2014 7:09 pm EST

see? He agrees!

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 7:00 pm EST

@stevezipay: Torts on MSL, Cally and comparisons of he & AV: "We're losing, so I'm the idiot; they're winning, he's the smart guy" http://t.co/FZpnCEVCUZ

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 6:34 pm EST

Mess: Nice one!

Ranger47


Mon Mar 31 2014 6:20 pm EST

I can just see it. Nonis probably grabbed Carlyle after the eighth straight loss and growled "you oughta have those guys play with balls" and then storms off in a huff. Carlyle then thinks to himself-"with balls, huh?"

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 5:57 pm EST

oy. Toronto giving up on pucks, practiced today with street hockey balls

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 5:54 pm EST

Have to figure next season is do or die (be traded) for Miller, Fast. So who goes?

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 5:51 pm EST

When can Haggerty be sent down? After the regular season? After the playoffs? After training camp next season? ever??

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 4:00 pm EST

Wild: I think of Chicago and others who get that top talent early and cheap and keep it for a while - especially top 2 line players. I hate to say it, but the Isles are a perhaps a couple of years and a couple of key drafts away from getting there. Edmonton with better management and coaching also has a young nucleus who with the right drafting and spending could also make a huge jump. Pitt, of course, comes to mind of someone who benefited from high draft picks with lower salaries which allowed them to build a solid multi-year contender. Detriot continues to amaze at how they stay so competitive despite their draft position. Has Sather announced his retirement yet? BTW, assuming we make the playoffs and can stay relatively healthy, this Ranger team will be very dangerous for all but perhaps Boston.

Ranger47


Mon Mar 31 2014 3:53 pm EST

Could use a little SANDY McCarthy for the playoffs....

Ranger47


Mon Mar 31 2014 3:27 pm EST

6' 1", 190lbs, righty, USNDP product

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 3:12 pm EST

@NYRangers #NYR have agreed to terms with FA forward Chris McCarthy. McCarthy, 22, had 18-24-42, along with 12 PIM & was a +16 in 38 games @UVMmhockey.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 31 2014 3:08 pm EST

Another thing, the Rangers draft (or acquisitions due to draft or through NCAA UFAs) have Fast and Lindberg who look like they will be 3rd or 4th line players, Bourque may be a guy who could step in (but his size worries me) You have Haggerty and Kristo as well as Miller who could possibly step in and make it to the top 6 (long way to go I know) and that would push Hagelin to the 3rd line making that line better. That would mean that all but what 1 or 2 of the current 3rd/4th line players would be on the team. Now of course that is a perfect situation, but the Rangers HAVE drafted well enough to keep supplying players. The teams that win the cup draft and use FA to build their teams (trades as well) and just because the last teams have won with their top guys being drafted, doesn't mean that a skilled player is not a skilled player...I don't care how you get them.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 31 2014 3:01 pm EST

Ranger47: by saying that you imply that there are teams that have 4 good lines due to young talent...what team is it that has drafted so well they have 4 good lines because of it?

Wildcard


Mon Mar 31 2014 2:48 pm EST

I mean, we could keep this club under cap. Unless people get crazy. And if they do, we have some flexibility.

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 2:42 pm EST

But I think we could keep this club under cap, and I think our third and fourth lines are really good. As far as forwards are concerned, its our first line, if any, than stands to be improved. I think a modest re-tooling could accomplish that.

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 2:41 pm EST

Ranger- I meant neither Boyle nor Prust at 3 mill

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 2:04 pm EST

Mess: :) Doubt we'll have enough $ to be really good on all lines. The only way around it in a cap world, I think, is to have enough cheap but talented youngsters on the team to offset the other $ being spent. And, unfortunately, we haven't been able to draft well enough from the middle of the pack to have that pipeline of (even 3rd line) talent to be really strong on all four lines and D. So, I think as a team you're going to have to pick and choose lines or players to devout your $s to and do your best to backfill the rest. JMHO

Ranger47


Mon Mar 31 2014 2:04 pm EST

RF...Wouldn't pay Boyle $3M either but will miss him if he goes....Didn't like what I saw from Carcillo on first line...Nothing against him but he doesn't belong there....

PJ


Mon Mar 31 2014 1:54 pm EST

Ranger- Neither!

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 1:47 pm EST

Related, but different question....Would you rather pay a bit more for a good 4th line and live with a "reasonable" 3rd line, or would you rather have a more-competitive 3rd line with a "good enough" 4th line? From what I've seen of AV's system (and given the problems we've had facing other teams 4th lines in the POs) I think I'd rather see the former. Which would mean not thinking of your 4th line as your "cheapest" one....

Ranger47


Mon Mar 31 2014 1:46 pm EST

Haven't finished watching the game yet (still have about 15 minutes of the 3rd to go) but from what I saw so far the Rangers came out and played the game they needed to in response after the Calgary game. Edmonton is a mess. They have so much young talent but they play with no clue defensively. One thing is for sure....if you are going to do the bottom-out rebuild and go with young kids you need to have them brought up and into a defensive system. Clearly these kids have been left to play pond hockey because they don't cover anything or anybody in their own end. Nice game by TALBOT. Good to see NASH score and MZA score. The MZA line did look like they hadn't missed a beat so I'm happy about that. I thought CARCILLO was ok on the #1 line. I wouldn't mind seeing these lines stay they way they are for a few games to see if any chemistry develops there. MOORE and the 4th line were once again very solid. Now, they need to go out and take care of business in these next two games to ensure they will be in the playoffs.

Vic


Mon Mar 31 2014 1:37 pm EST

I don't think a team should pay a 4th liner $3,000,000 but that doesn't mean some teams won't offer him that. And a team like the Oilers might envision him as their 3rd line center and hope his 21 goal season 3 years ago wasn't a fluke.

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 1:17 pm EST

If you had your choice of Boyle or Prust for 3M who would you choose?

Ranger47


Mon Mar 31 2014 11:42 am EST

Im fine with Boyle and I know what he contributes. It will just come down to the money/years. At this point, Im more into Moore, so that's another thing I was wrong about. We have the flexibility to let one or two of those fourth-liners go, if we have to. Preferably, they all sign to affordable contracts.

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 11:31 am EST

Everybody has their favorites or players they don't like....I would hate to see us lose Boyle....I really believe he likes being a Ranger and you can tell he cares....

PJ


Mon Mar 31 2014 11:15 am EST

If anybody gives Boyle $3M then they're out of their mind. He's been a good 4th liner and does things that don't show up in the box score, but in the end he's a 4th liner and that's the best he'll be.

RJ


Mon Mar 31 2014 11:08 am EST

really, I think probably a dozen teams will want Boyle

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 11:07 am EST

Vancouver

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 11:07 am EST

I could see Boston giving the hometown Boyle an offer.

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:59 am EST

RF4L: I have said it before...I think Boyle gets 3 years, and between 2-2.5 mil per. He is scoring at a pace of a 1 mil player (looking across the entire NHL) and many of those guys PK just as well. He is making (in salary not cap) 1.9 mil this season, I don't see him adding 2+mil to that, even with other teams out there looking....I think the "big" offers also come from crap teams, and he may want to take a little less to have a chance at the cup.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:54 am EST

In fact, on last night's TSN broadcast, the announcers were speculating on how the Oilers should consider pursuing BB this summer.

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:48 am EST

PJ: BB will likely get several contract offers - I suspect he'll command at least $3,000,000 per season and probably on a 4 to 6 year deal.

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:44 am EST

That should read contract standpoint...........

PJ


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:41 am EST

Not sure what is going on with our fourth line from a contact standpont but I would hate to lose Moore, Dorsett or Boyle....We have been complaining for a long time about not being able to come up with an effective fourth line....They have been good and actually terrific since Dorsett came back....And to think someone here was calling him the human punching bag and a Pinata......Geez...........

PJ


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:24 am EST

RF4L: Yeah it came out..Media types asked Stralman about it, he said he wasnt aware of anything like that, and his agent came out to say that there had been some discussions, but there had not been an offer from either side yet, and that the team had other priorities like dealing with Cally and the trade deadline. The degree that he denied it, and the way Stralman reacted makes me think that someone got a bogus report, or made it up.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:19 am EST

Ahhh....so I did get that right (in terms of what I heard)....

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:17 am EST

RF4L: And his agent said that was total BS.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:11 am EST

I cannot wait to play the Canucks. Johnny TwoGuns Tortorella ia always fun to watch behind the bench.

rangerlou


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:08 am EST

Mess .... My Expectations are that i want to be Six feet 5 inches and play for the Lakers (Just Kidding). But not going to happen any time soon. ROTFLMAO!!!!

rangerlou


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:07 am EST

Ive watched Klein throw some big checks. I am not crazy about putting two righties together on the blue line. If we stick with Moore, should probably pair him with Klein. Maybe get Diaz up with Staal.

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:06 am EST

No problem RF4L. Some of these guys need a couple of weeks back down to the AHL. To keept heir HUMILITY in check.

rangerlou


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:04 am EST

I read that his expectations were 3 million per. I haven't read anything about an offer. I think that Stralman is a basically okay third pair defender, but I think he barely deserves his current salary, much less 3 mill per. I also think Diaz is better, so lets see what he wants. The longer we wait, the more its going to cost.

Messier11


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:03 am EST

I beginning to like Diaz and Klein. They are not Physical but can skate and they have an above average shot with a quick release.

rangerlou


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:02 am EST

I believe that's what I heard. Forgive me if I'm misquoting....

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 10:00 am EST

Stralman turned down a multiyear $3,000,000+?????? This is getting out of control. I would like to see if another TEAM comes up with that figure. I can see around Two Mill.... TOPS!!

rangerlou


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:54 am EST

Wild: Rumours are Stralman turned down a multiyear $3,000,000+ per year deal already.

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:53 am EST

RF4L: I think it will depend on what the market will bear. I do wonder however, if he would take what Stralman is currently earning. Strals is at 1.7 mil cap hit now, Diaz is at just over 1.2. 1.7 would be 500K per, a 30% (give or take) increase. You would think he and his agent would jump at that after he was traded twice in the same season...and AV's system seems to agree with his style, would be nice to see him re-signed before FA hits...along with everyone else of course...but D are hard to come by for the most part, and Stralman I am fairly certain will test the market to see what his max is.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:49 am EST

And gawd, does Edmonton SUCK. Why Kevin Lowe hasn't be fired is beyond me................

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:47 am EST

Thought Staal had a quietly effective game...

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:46 am EST

Love Talbot, but he does leave some juicy rebounds...........

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:45 am EST

PJ: problem is...he is consistently terrible away from the puck....in games he has played when the entire team has done really really well, you can still remember his horrible decisions with out the puck. He is really bad away from the puck, and its not getting better. I don't think he was scratched based solely on that one game, but on the fact that in that one game he was still doing what the coaches have clearly spoken to him about in the past.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:45 am EST

Watched the game last night - nice to the MZA pop a couple. And Nash for that matter. That Richards/MSL/Hags line is ridiculously tiny and will get freakin' killed come PO time. Diaz might be a good replacement for Stralman - I wonder what he'll cost in terms of salary and/or his interest in staying a Ranger might be.

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:43 am EST

I've yet to see Rick Nash get stapled to the bench. Mind you, I've only seen about 1/4 of the Ranger games this year, so perhaps I missed it.

RF4L


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:33 am EST

In reference to MSL and our performance before and after the trade, it seems from a financial perspective, it was a good trade. We don't have Cally's salary to worry and our performance did not take a hit. Also, MSL may start producing. He certainly cannot produce any less.

nyfans


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:27 am EST

I thought Miller was one of our best players in the first period of the Calgary game....He did miss the net with some great chances but he was very active....To single him out for that horrible team defensive performance isn't fair in my opinion....Plenty of culprits in that one....

PJ


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:04 am EST

Hank will be in net for the last two games of the trip....I will say Talbot's numbers are incredible though....He gives us a chance every time he plays....I am sick of watching the Rangers trying to set up MSL....It's like he is some tired old geezer that everyone feels sorry for....If you have a shot just take it....Let the MSL thing take care of itself....

PJ


Mon Mar 31 2014 9:03 am EST

MILLER: I am starting to wonder what is up with this kid....I still feel like he will figure it out, but no one can just point to Torts and say he doesn't know what he is doing...AV is the second coach to have some of the exact same things to say about the kid away from the puck. I wonder if it is a lack of ability to learn what to do, or a lack of will. I know that being in Hartford and with his skill level, that some bad habits formed....but when I can see the issues clearly when he is on the ice, there are bigger problems then that. The best thing for him will to stay with the big club for some time...the rest of the season I say, even if he doesn't play, he will only miss a handful of games anyway in the AHL since they will not be making the AHL playoffs (unless there has been some miracle I haven't heard about.) so he will be going on summer break soon anyway, and would likely be one of the call ups for the practice squad regardless, so getting him the extra time with the NHL coaches to work on his game may be the best thing. And getting in a game or two would be good as well. It just seems to me like there should be more improvement in his game...and again, its either he is having a hard time learning it all, or he isn't willing to do it, or learn it. If this keeps up we might see the Rangers move him, because if AV doesn't trust him, he wont see the ice..this we have seen for sure, AV will staple anyone to the bench who makes too many mistakes for hims liking.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 31 2014 8:54 am EST

stevielegs: I think that is part of why Talbot was in goal. When Hank is back there I think players rely on him just a bit too much, and the longer the stretch of games he plays, the more the do it. With the young Talbot in net (even though he has shown that he can play at a very high level) I think the players concentrate more on their game with out the puck, and think a little bit about what they do offensively so it doesn't turn around on them. The positive side effect of that is that their offensive game looks sharper when they play like that as well...probably because the "running around" in the D zone carries over down the ice, and they are just scrambly in all 3 zones. When they are tight in their own zone, it also carries over and they are positioned well to receive passes and get shots and to hold the zone.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 31 2014 8:49 am EST

RJ...I am aware it was Toews who was hurt...I am pointing out Kane is already injured and it was reported he would be out for 3 weeks....

PJ


Mon Mar 31 2014 7:10 am EST

So does veenyo come back with the same lineup including the prince? It seems like they play tighter when he's in goal. The sometimes take hank for granted....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 31 2014 6:56 am EST

Good game for the Rangers. They score more goals shorthanded than when they are on the power play. So, maybe when the other team gets a penalty the Rangers should request to have one of their players go to the box instead. This game is strange. The Rangers lose to Calgary (who got creamed by Ottawa) then come back with a totally dominant game. The Oilers beat Anaheim then follow that up with a stinker...... By the way it was Toews that got injured for Chicago, not Kane. And, I thought it was a just a hard, legal hit. I didn't see an intent to injure.....Bring on the Canucks.

RJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 11:14 pm EST

Magic number 7....http://nypost.com/2014/03/30/rangers-breeze-to-easy-victory-over-the-oilers/

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 10:37 pm EST

Rangers have scored 43 goals since MSL. Rangers score 42 goals over that same span of games immediately before MSL.

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 10:33 pm EST

Rangers 9-4-1 since MSL. Rangers were 9-5-0 in that same span immediately before MSL.

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:48 pm EST

Nice to have a stress free game....A laugher, a blowout,a smackdown....LGR

PJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:46 pm EST

With Kane out for a reported 3 weeks this really hurts the Hawks...

PJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:44 pm EST

Hawks should have ran Crosby & Orpik.... They don't need the 2 points.. Toews could be out for the season including Playoff's.. We'll see....

mf


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:42 pm EST

No one has more road wins than the Rangers

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:42 pm EST

Oh yeah.....MSL didnt score but he played a good game. Al that matters is the "W".

MelvilleFred


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:40 pm EST

Good solid team effort tonight. Loved the line combinations and I really am starting to like Diaz......shorthanded goals and a PPG surrounded by a shutout from Talbot.....nearly had a stroke when McD blocked that shot and went down. Win gives us a good shot at a 3-1 road trip.....

MelvilleFred


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:39 pm EST

3 helpers for Stepan

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:38 pm EST

BRING ON THE CANUCKS

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:37 pm EST

The prince reigns

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:36 pm EST

Talbot goosegger

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:28 pm EST

Nash got his hat robbed by the goal checker...

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:17 pm EST

Hawks did nothing in the third dominated period but couldn't score and gave a up a few late, very surprising and Jones and Milbury killing the Hawks on the lack of response.

jim9k26


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:11 pm EST

Nn they might throw their undies getting the spanking with their pants pulled down...

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:09 pm EST

Now feed msl

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:08 pm EST

Are we going to get a jersey toss from the Oiler fans.

DOUBLEN


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:08 pm EST

Short BAZOOKERELLA 2 shorty...

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:03 pm EST

Mess don't tell mf he's losing that bet whatever it was..

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:57 pm EST

Rangers have let in fewer goals than anyone this season other than Boston, LA, St. Louis.

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:35 pm EST

Nash, assists from Step, Schultz, and Hall

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:34 pm EST

Nash 2 shorty

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:22 pm EST

Nash mash

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:19 pm EST

Msl needs to buy two vowels o&a to spell goal

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:11 pm EST

MSL cant buy one

jim9k26


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:10 pm EST

anyone see the hit by Orpik on Toews- looked to me like left his feet at impact -surprised by lack of forceful reaction yet from Hawks,Krueger got laid out in same corner next shift by Niskanen, Captain down the tunnel looked pretty serious and now Sharp just got whacked too could be interesting 3rd period.

jim9k26


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:51 pm EST

Another bs ref call of no goal incidental contact no penalty ... Happens every game with no call...wafj...

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:48 pm EST

Notice how animated the officials get when waving our goals off...If I was AV I would be losing it....

PJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:46 pm EST

Getting screwed again....This is so fucked up....

PJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:42 pm EST

Of course its a good goal, Zuccarello is shorter than the crossbar! With the helper going to Mess11's favorite player to boot!

mf


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:42 pm EST

Pouiliot made the play there...Nice...

PJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:41 pm EST

Hopefully gets him going....I agree he has really been struggling....

PJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:41 pm EST

That's the kind of goal/assist I expected Stralman to have about 10 of by now

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:40 pm EST

Strawman to BAZOOKERELLA goal

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:40 pm EST

Zucc!!

PJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:35 pm EST

MZA definitely not 100%......

MelvilleFred


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:35 pm EST

Agree

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:32 pm EST

.....as does Stepan....

MelvilleFred


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:26 pm EST

Nash has to buried that ... The pp continues to not score....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 5:24 pm EST

When Vanek had just 8 months on his contract, he went for more than what we paid for MSL who yes, has an entire other year remaining on his pretty-affordable contract. AFTER everyone else was gone (Callahan), the Islanders traded him for a couple of 2nds (one of which being the prospect). 1) Waiting as long as Montreal did for Vanek could have blown up in our face and Cally couldve walked for nothing. 2) NYI probably was not interested in Cally, so they wouldn't have been a viable trade partner.

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 5:18 pm EST

Mess: Yes and he was sliding down the Montreal depth charts because he's having trouble scoring and that's what he was drafted for (maybe Ola can give us a better review). A bunch of their picks from last June have surged ahead of him. Bottom line is that the Canadiens didn't give up nearly the same as the Rangers did for MSL and Vanek's producing. I realize the latter's a rental.

RF4L


Sun Mar 30 2014 5:17 pm EST

gene- but yes, our 2015 first is theirs.

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 5:15 pm EST

Ranger47: Thanks for the report - always nice to get first hand takes from wallsters who see the Pack (or other prospects). Syret, BTW, is likely an AHL lifer. He's local to my parts (about 10 miles from where I am - from a little town called Millgrove) and was a very good junior, playing very well for the London Knights, but he turned pro in 05/06 and has played the bulk of his career looking up at the NHL. He's gonna be 29 in a few months...

RF4L


Sun Mar 30 2014 5:15 pm EST

gene- the 2nd 7th swap is 2015

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 5:14 pm EST

RF that prospect was drafted #33 in 2012. three choices into the 2nd round.

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 5:09 pm EST

Just back from the Wolfpack-Bridgeport Sound Tigers game won by Hartford 3-0. The Pack was defensively poor in the first period, but before the 2nd righted the ship giving up on about 15 shots against for the whole game. The best Pack player IMHO was Powe who (playing with Haley) scored a goal and played well overall. Nice to know we have a 4th liner who could fill in during the playoffs if needed. The other player of note was our goalie, Levenue, who got the shutout and was extremely solid and well-positioned in net throughout. You could see that Allaire must be working with working with him, because he looked very "Henrik-like" in how he played - including at least one header. Hvirik scored (not sure who else got the 3rd goal) and played well, but was not dominating at this level. Ditto with Fast - though he played a solid two-way game and looked ready to me to play a 4th line center role for us in the near future. Kristo appeared to me to still need quite a bit more seasoning. McIlrath looked OK, but I was surprised to see him not using his physicality in this game. Connor Allen had some good moments and a few not-so-good. Seems to me he is an interesting work in progress. Bourke was noticeable at times, but was not a real factor in the game. Syret looks like another interesting prospect who needs to grow his game. Not much else on others to report from my amateur fan eye.

Ranger47


Sun Mar 30 2014 5:02 pm EST

Vanek was acquired for a Swedish prospect named Collberg and a conditional 2nd rounder (if Montreal makes the POs, which they will). They also get a 4th from Islanders (to ease the loss of the 2nd rounder). Collberg was rated Montreal's 6th best prospect in this year's THN FW edition.

RF4L


Sun Mar 30 2014 4:53 pm EST

Mess11: I believe if Cally signs with Tampa we get a second this year and they get our seventh. The determination for our first or second this year is if we make the finals We win two series and it is our first , two and out and its a second.. No matter what, we give up our first next year.

gene_carr


Sun Mar 30 2014 4:42 pm EST

Interesting that Boston, Chicago and Pittsburgh are all playing at .500 since the Olympic break. Sucks when you send alot of guys. Thanks god the Bruins hung on in the shootout and the Flyers only get 1 point. Huge game for the rangers....they need to do no worse than a 2-2 split on this trip. Thirlled that Pouliot is back with his mates and MSL is back on his natural right side. Like Carcillo on the 1st line. C'mon Cam T.

MelvilleFred


Sun Mar 30 2014 3:57 pm EST

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/comments/st._louis_im_getting_tested_mentally_no_doubt/

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 3:32 pm EST

Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord Ranger Rants: Admitted overthinker St. Louis, "consumed" by slump, knows he's being "tested mentally"

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 3:30 pm EST

rj they call msl quadzilla .....he got Richards back into shape....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 2:43 pm EST

Flyers can thank the refs, who blew a hand pass call. ENG would have happened and Boston wins in regulation. They cannot even get those right.

Bob


Sun Mar 30 2014 2:22 pm EST

At least Bruins win in OT....That late goal was a killer though....Bruins allow 50 shots?.....WTF

PJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 2:07 pm EST

Fuckin Flyers.

LetsGoRangers


Sun Mar 30 2014 2:04 pm EST

Id bet Boston is actually trying to give Philadelphia a point

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 12:33 pm EST

Zip: Moore nominated for Masterson

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 11:24 am EST

stevie - you that for sure...how? My guess is as good as your guess.

RJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 10:20 am EST

On the TALBOT issue I think AV blew it. He should have started TALBOT against CALGARY for all of the reasons I previously mentioned. Now he is going to TALBOT but it isn't the positive it should be. Instead in now looks like he is going to TALBOT because HANK had a bad game. Now it puts more pressure on TALBOT to come in and get a win or else the Rangers are on a losing streak. He screwed up on the psychology of move by not doing this the other way around. He also now has to have his #1 goaltender sit with a bad taste in his mouth instead of getting right back in there the next game. As for the CARCILLO move we talked about this line combo a few days ago and I am all for it. It is worth a try and I don't think the minutes (probably 12 to 14) are going to hurt CARCILLO. I'm glad it also looks like AV is reuniting the MZA-BRASSARD-POULIOT line but it should never have been broken up in the first place. I hope they can pick back up where they left off. And finally I disagree with you STEVIE on POULIOT. He is exactly the kind of player they need and they need more like him. I wish he handled the puck a little better but I have no complaints about the rest of his game. I accept him for what he is and what he is doing for the team on a nightly basis.

Vic


Sun Mar 30 2014 10:17 am EST

6) Tampa signs Cally and we get their 2nd for our 1st.

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 10:12 am EST

1) Vanek is a rental, MSL isnt. 2) Vanek cost two high 2nds. 3) Vanek cost that much after Callahan was off the market (and almost everyone else) 3) Five months earlier, Vanek cost an identical package to MSL (Moulson-rental, Very High 1st, 2nd) 4) getting Vanek would have been an NYR-NYI trade. 5) Vanek and MSL are now tied in points.

Messier11


Sun Mar 30 2014 10:10 am EST

msl is here because Callahan and his agent, and Sather not coming to an agreement....Callahan et al cost 2 picks along with msl demanding a trade......blame who you want, it's history......the choice became Callahan until July 1st or msl until next July and 2 picks gone.....sather made the decision, just like he made one for kid k with probably dr posner telling him the possibilities....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:13 am EST

RJ: I think that's a bit of both there! LOL...bottom line is it was a bad trade and hindsight, I''m sure, will bear me out.

RF4L


Sun Mar 30 2014 9:12 am EST

Tomas Vanek scored again last night, giving him 6 goals in 7 games. And what did he cost??

RF4L


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:57 am EST

Rj msl is in better shape than most nhlers.... It's not his speed, it's his head ....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:50 am EST

"Damn RJ, quit being so negative!!!"..........Negative or realistic? Stevie...so because Jagr is playing well that means that MSL can't be worn down. That's really weak logic. They are different kind of players. MSL's game is more built on speed. If he's worn down it's going to affect him more than a plodder like Jagr.

RJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:39 am EST

Rj like Jagr and others? He will start scoring soon... Hopefully this season or more importantly , in the playoffs when it really is needed and counts....his problem is confidence not eroding skills....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:39 am EST

Alain Vigneault said yesterday that he was 75% sure that the lines for tonight against Edmonton would be (Daily News): Dan Carcillo, Derek Stepan, Rick Nash Carl Hagelin, Brad Richards, Marty St. Louis Benoit Pouliot, Derick Brassard, Mats Zuccarello Brian Boyle, Dominic Moore, Derek Dorsett Is someone new reading the wall??

Wildcard


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:36 am EST

stevie: Agreed 100% and like you, I sure hope McI makes it next year. What he brings is arguably, the biggest hole the Rangers have.

RF4L


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:31 am EST

Rf just what they need another small guy to continue on smurfs are us... But then again they have Boyle and Pouliot who really aren't steam rollers that this team needs.... Veenyo likes vets especially for the stretch run to make the playoffs.... Add Big Mac next season then maybe they will be a lot tougher to play against .... The rest will play bigger with him watching their backs.... If he ever gets a real chance with some patience by the coaches....Nobody is really doing that now, not even carcillo or Dorsett ...:

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:29 am EST

Damn RJ, quit being so negative!!!

RF4L


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:26 am EST

Has anybody considered that maybe the problem with MSL is not that he's getting divorced or having trouble acclimating to his new teammates? It could be that he's an old fart and the older you get the more likely you are to wear down as the season progresses.

RJ


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:23 am EST

Ryan Bourque scored 2 goals last night, giving him 19 for the season. He's on the last year of his EL deal and will be an RFA this summer. I wonder if the Rangers will resign him....

RF4L


Sun Mar 30 2014 8:09 am EST

the nyr are 8-4-1 with msl.....guess they woulda shoulda coulda been 10-2-1 or 12-0-1......or somewhere better than the 8......maybe he's just their lucky charm like the cereal commercial...please don't tell me not to pick on short people or leprechauns.....or fatso..... et al......remember everyone is entitled to their opinion.....and to argue......tolerance as they say and don't always do......

stevielegs


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:27 am EST

York: Haggerty would only sign if he was on the NHL team because it burns a year off his entry level contract. I do not think he anticipated playing much but could acclimate himself and practice with the A team. I view the MSL case differently. Apparently MSL is breaking up with his wife and he was set on moving closer in an attempt at reconciliation. The Olympic snub was not at the heart of the issue. And by the way, he barely made the fourth line in Russia and was not very good It is understandable that his private life is affecting his work and it may not be short lived. Sather should have known what was up and that he was dealing from strength. MY preference would have been to move Cally out west in order to strengthen our prospect pool because MSL does not adequately fill a need we have. At his age, regardless of his past and pride, there is not a large window of recovery time. I totally agree on your bewilderment relative to AV's treatment of Miller. The kid should be getting special attention as he has the tools to be just what we need. AV is a strange dude as far as I am concerned and nothing reinforces that as much as his reluctance to reunite what was our best line:MZA-Brassard-Pouliot.

gene_carr


Sun Mar 30 2014 7:24 am EST

http://nypost.com/2014/03/29/sochi-didnt-stop-fans/

stevielegs


Sat Mar 29 2014 11:47 pm EST

Like Luongo said: pray for Eddie.

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 11:43 pm EST

Tortorella has started wearing glasses behind the bench now. I guess he's trying to prove to Gillis that he's smart.

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 11:42 pm EST

Lack lets in 5 on his 16th straight start. I don't think Markstrom would give them much worse a chance. Good thing Vancouver signed its key UFAs before the season got very long in the tooth. Practically no one can bolt this offseason. The only players Id be interested in are Kassian and Weber. Kassian has really stepped it up so I doubt they move him. Weber, we may have something akin in Diaz.

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 9:20 pm EST

Certainly no help tonight but the Devils outside shot is about gone after losing in a SO to Fishsticks....

PJ


Sat Mar 29 2014 9:02 pm EST

No help from Florida, Buffalo, Carolina, Toronto tonight. Toronto in a pretty nasty tailspin. ///// don't know what to think about AVs player assessment. This guy wanted Pyatt over Kreider, gave Asham a try early on, tried MDZ out of position for months seemingly out of spite, doesn't like Miller, wouldn't play Diaz until Moore went out, only last night giving Diaz more time than Stralman, hasn't given McIlrath much of a sniff.

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 8:53 pm EST

PJ: hey, if he can hang on that line for double the time he's used to playing, I think it's worth a shot. However, let's not forget that AV said this was "75% the lines"? What will that mean? Let's see what happens tomorrow.

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 7:09 pm EST

Mess...Also puzzled that AV would sit Carcillo for a few games and bring him back on the first line....I like what Carcillo has done for us but right now Dorsett may be one of our best forwards...At least busting it every shift....I would move him up and bring Carcillo back on the fourth line...Then again I don't believe Miller was bad....AV said in the postgame he messed up some offensive chances....Well at least he had some....

PJ


Sat Mar 29 2014 7:09 pm EST

On the MSL trade geez it looks really bad right now, I don't know which is worse maybe this one, but could be the Nash trade. There was no way Sather was getting MSL for Cally straight, but the first in the Mcdavid draft was horrible. As bad as we think Sather is at drafting giving up a First rounder every other year, is just stupid especially in the cap era. With all that said MSL is super proud and there is no way this kind of play will continue I think something is off and will settle hopefully by playoff time. Those who think Sather was dealing from a position of power are mistaken Yzerman was not just going to give up MSL and was prepared to keep him in Tampa and try again in the offseason to move him and try and get him to expand his list of teams. I think Sather may have been better off trading Cally out west for the picks, but then people would have bitched that Sather did nothing to try and win a cup this year, it's damned if you do, and damned if you don't here. Sather will be retiring in the next three years and you can damn well expect that he will not walk away without trying everything he can to win now..........On Miller and Haggerty, much like Torts AV seems to have something against Miller, not sure what it is but this kid is getting the shaft here. I know he is a skilled third liner but he's not getting the chance. Signing Haggerty and sitting him is rather funny he had to have known it was going to happen, the question is why sign the kid if you don't want to use him?

York18


Sat Mar 29 2014 6:58 pm EST

I'm still around just taking a break, those who make their stupid comments about me should STFU because they have no idea what they are talking about just have more important things going on right now and I'll be back posting soon. My hiatus also proves something else those other people who aren't posting still use excuses like it's my fault yet when I'm not here they still aren't posting And the BS of agree to disagree, look when you're wrong you are wrong it's that simple, when I'm wrong I eat my crow end of story I don't act like a bitch about it. Many here are quick to serve up the crow but not so quick to eat their own. Have a good weekend.

York18


Sat Mar 29 2014 6:10 pm EST

So you can retire the thesaurus

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 6:08 pm EST

I never said anything against carcillo playing in that spot. I am just surprised, because as I noted (correctly) AV plays him less ATOI than even Dorsett when in the same spot, and less ATOI than Boyle or Moore. An observation about AVs habits, not a judgment of Carcillos ability

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 6:04 pm EST

If being a maven means that you can read and count, then I'm a maven. I never claim to have inside info. I read stats, articles, tweets, and I watch games, reminisce about teams of the past. Nothing more. If you need more than that, read someone else.

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 6:01 pm EST

As for your opinion about my opinion, I really couldn't give a shit.

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 6:00 pm EST

So it looks like you're being a little over- sensitive for nothing. So much for all the skirt hate

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:59 pm EST

I think that blog was posted only a few hours ago. I wasn't insinuating anything; Stevie posted the tweet. I followed the link on the tweet to the article. I thought the article was good reading for what we're talking about.

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:53 pm EST

As KIS drops the mic and walks off stage! I too miss Yorkie! Oh, and Hospo!

pa.rangersfan


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:50 pm EST

Mess never saw the blog. Check back a couple days ago. I asked what people thought about putting carcillo on the first line before the Calgary game. You are one of the people that I was talking about being on this board and acting like a maven. you are a mess and only ridicule. You are not informative just truculent and argumentative. you have yet to back up any opinion with fact or knowledge. that is why I said I miss y boys like yorkie. He may be abrasive but he knows his shit. now go make me a sandwich.

KIS


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:42 pm EST

Mess.., also pretty sure KIS didn't see that blog; if that's what you're suggesting.

pa.rangersfan


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:35 pm EST

Mess.., playing Carcillo in that spot makes a ton of sense right now. He is plenty talented to play a role on that line for THIS club. Our boys are getting bounced about like rag dolls. His role will be to create some space and distraction on that line. I get your point but this Club needs some "jam" right now. Putting MZA, Brass, and (Cess)Poul..(Yorkie) back together also is long overdue. I am looking forward to the Oiler tilt.

pa.rangersfan


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:34 pm EST

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:29 pm EST

My boy KIS and I had a convo earlier this morning. He called those lines verbatim! Man is an F@%$# visionary. They don't call him "Mr.Worldwide" for nuthin'!

pa.rangersfan


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:16 pm EST

PJ I'm with you, this trip scares the shit out of me......it's a perfect setup for us to screw up and give the usual death struggle for the last playoff spot. Good time to rest Hank.

MelvilleFred


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:15 pm EST

Sounds like AV doesn't trust Miller or Haggerty. I'll be really surprised if those lines happen, as AV has never played Carcillo over 10:00 I think

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:09 pm EST

1h Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord #NYR "75 percent" lines: Carcillo-Stepan-Nash Hagelin-Richards-St. Louis Pouliot-Brassard-Zuccarello Boyle-Dominic Moore-Dorsett

stevielegs


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:01 pm EST

RF...No problem with Talbot starting but this team isn't normal....They don't play well against the lesser teams which is why this trip scared me....We lost to Edmonton at the Garden this year.....Our last big road trip recently we started off with losses against the Canes and Wild....I honestly don't know what the problem is...We are loaded with experience but it doesn't seem to matter....

PJ


Sat Mar 29 2014 4:08 pm EST

Scrivens was acquired for a third, not off waivers. Still cheap, IMO. That was just the second time he's been traded in his career, both times by good teams trying to win now. He's a commodity and I think he's found a home in Edmonton.

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 3:55 pm EST

It's nice to see the Scrivens has apparently found a home. He got bounced around a lot this year, to the point where the Oilers plucked him off waivers. He's played so well for Edmonton that they signed him to a 2 year $2,000,000+ contract. Good for him.

RF4L


Sat Mar 29 2014 3:53 pm EST

Good, Talbot should start. And let's not forget it's not like he's not performed well. He has. Furthermore, isn't it common sense to play your backup against the weaker opponents, especially when your regular has played so many games, including a long stretch at the Olympics? In other words, it's kind of a no-brainer decision, IMO.

RF4L


Sat Mar 29 2014 3:49 pm EST

I think Scrivens stopped 41 last night. As many as we put on net against Berra. Maybe they play Fasth tomorrow?

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 3:43 pm EST

Didn't see the game, but not surprised at the result because it's their M.O. Beat a good team then lose to a bad one. I don't know what can be done to get MSL going. I guess it just has to happen. Maybe against a defensively poor team like Edmonton he'll score a couple and get the monkey off his back. As well as Talbot has played this season I don't see why he wouldn't get a game. Give Hank a day off. He probably needs it.

RJ


Sat Mar 29 2014 3:30 pm EST

Zip thinks Talbot is in against Edmonton

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 3:29 pm EST

KIS: Yes, of course some of those who have disappeared brought lots of flavour to the wall. But some of us who remain still can contribute you know....

RF4L


Sat Mar 29 2014 3:28 pm EST

KIS: Disagree. Those highlights showed poor goaltending to me. And before some people start screaming about my negativity, I'm not suggesting that Lundqvist is a bum and needs to be traded. All players have bad games. And he's played a lot. Let him rest. He needs it.

RF4L


Sat Mar 29 2014 2:07 pm EST

Bruins down Caps 4-2....Important note they did it with Chad Johnson in goal....Should mean Rask will play against Flyers tomorrow....Bruins are dominant right now...

PJ


Sat Mar 29 2014 1:27 pm EST

From Zip: PP units by AV, first McD and Brich and the point, then Girardi and Diaz. Why have two lefties on the point in the first unit and then two righties on the point in the second? Isn't that just asking for botched keep-ins?

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 1:20 pm EST

And what's with the "they think they are ( as knowledgeable) but their not. What's the point of saying something like that? No one here is acting arrogant or acting like a know-it-all. Jeez.

JFC31


Sat Mar 29 2014 1:18 pm EST

KIS -- yeah,well sometimes things are simply a case of "mission accomplished." Once the mission was accomplished, there was no need to be here anymore. We lost a lot of good people because few people here can just let things go or agree to disagree....or maybe don't want to because it serves their purpose. Take that for what you will, but that's my opinion and it's not up for discussion.

JFC31


Sat Mar 29 2014 12:45 pm EST

I have seen posts from Ola and CM....As for Hospo, TD and E I believe it is pretty clear why they stopped posting....And yes this place is better when they do post....All here are Ranger fans and all have opinions...Nobody likes to be attacked for their opinion....Just my simple minded opinion....

PJ


Sat Mar 29 2014 11:33 am EST

He didn't make many saves at all, let alone great ones. I like Hank, but that wasn't a strong game. We scored enough to win it, and he let in softies. He knew it.

Messier11


Sat Mar 29 2014 11:16 am EST

RF I don't know that Hank sucked. He let in a bad 4th goal but made many good saves, think defensively the TEAM sucked. not much structure.

KIS


Sat Mar 29 2014 11:14 am EST

RF and JF, good. Its about time some people took the fucking skirts off and stop being babies. If it was sarcasm tough shit and deal with it RF you have to admit being an long time person on the wall this place is not as good as when hospo, Yorkie, Ola, TD CM and many others are not on here. I like lots of opinions and banter

KIS


Sat Mar 29 2014 10:30 am EST

RF4L: TALBOT should have been in goal last night. I was surprised when I saw it was HANK again. They just came off a week full of emotional rivalry games, the HANK lovefest comeback win and the big emotional win against the Flyers. They were heading out on a road trip where they were mostly going to play weaker teams. AV had to know that the team was going to be flat last night. That is why you start the trip with TALBOT. That way your team goes into the game with the knowledge that their backup goaltender is in net and they have to play a good defensive game in front of him. To me it was a easy decision to start TALBOT last night. He didn't. HANK was not sharp and the team looked flat for the entire first period. After they battled back to take the lead they seemed to let off the gas. Maybe thinking that they were the better team and were going to win. After HANK let of the softest of goals on that 4th one I got the feeling that they were going to lose. I praised HANK for the game he played against the Flyers. He looked like the HANK of a few seasons ago. Last night he looked like the HANK of this season. One other thing. When is the media going to pick up the call to reunite the MZA-BRASSARD-POULIOT line? I and others have been screaming about it since that line was broken up and we have been right. There is little to no line chemistry between any of the first 3 lines right now. Put back the 1 damn line that had some chemistry!!!! Why is this so hard a decision for him? He doesn't even have MZA with MSL anymore. There is no excuse for not reuniting that line except stubbornness.

Vic


Sat Mar 29 2014 10:11 am EST

Just watched the highlights - Lundqvist sucked. That 4th goal was horrible, but there were 2 others he looked weak on. I concur that Talbot should start against the Oilers.

RF4L


Sat Mar 29 2014 9:54 am EST

Nothing comes EASY when you are a ranger fan....... Nothing!!!!!!

rangerlou


Sat Mar 29 2014 9:30 am EST

Yeah, really

JFC31


Sat Mar 29 2014 9:16 am EST

Hey KIS, I'll try not to take that complaint personally..................

RF4L


Sat Mar 29 2014 8:33 am EST

what the hell happened to TDCHI and Yorkie again. we now have other resident experts. the dynamics stay the same its just different players. these different players aren't as knowledgable though.. they think they are but they are not.

KIS


Sat Mar 29 2014 8:32 am EST

this team needs to play a certain way to be successful. they are quick but not big. with the nash line you had kreider who went to the net. by putting MSL nobody goes to the net. when the MZA brassard Poul line was together they were successful because Pouliot went to the net. MSL comes in and now all line are scrambled. JT Miller is not ready for this team no matter how well he plays for hartford. the coach doesn't trust him gives him no confidence. dont play him him and make him worse. I asked yesterday about putting Carcillo in Kreider spot. He will go to goal and gives some protection. Put him on the first line with Step and Nash. Put the Pouliot brass MZA line back and watch MZA take off again. Put MSL with richards and Hags. If they work good if not its only one line. 4th line stays the same. its just one game

KIS


Sat Mar 29 2014 8:21 am EST

6 possible picks in rounds 1 and 2 from 2013 to 2015 and idiot Sather has traded away 4 of them. All for a PO bubble team. Nice. He sucks.

RF4L


Sat Mar 29 2014 7:56 am EST

Wow, the anti-MSL trade brigade appears to be growing. Not that I didn't expect that, just didn't anticipate it happening so quickly. In other words, I expected MSL would have a positive impact, but not enough to make a big difference in the POs (this year or next) because there are too many other weaknesses remaining to be addressed. He's been terrible and Callahan outscoring him is like a slap in the face, but isn't that something us fans of this stupidly managed organization used to? Sather's such a nob!!!

RF4L


Sat Mar 29 2014 7:45 am EST

What's really galling about this team is their absolute inability to maintain a high intensity level for any stretch of games....and particularly against weaker opponents. And this pattern goes across coaches, captains and players....it's a Rangers issue and it really pisses me off! We look atbthe Rangers play Columbus and Philly and marvel at the way they finish their checks, the way that the hitting picks up, just the overall difference in how they "look" as a team...feisty, intense, determined. And then comes the common refrain from The Wall..."if we play like that the rest of the way....blah, blah"...,"if we play that way against Calgary and Edmonton we'll cruise into the playoffs", etc. and we are all correct. But, the Rangers just don't do it. Time and again we see the same garbage repeated. I don't care how many shots we had last night....the Rangers did not look like the same team that played against Columbus & Philly. When you play teams that are running out the string, you MAKE them toss in the towel by bringing an intensity level that they no linger know how to match. These outsider teams are out to play loose and have fun....if you make it not fun for them, they quit. But we did. It do that....we decided to play pond hockey, trade chances with them, not hit hard, not push, not be intense. So, as usual we will barely squeak into the POs and go in more fatigued from having to,struggle to get in. Ridiculous Ground Hog Day stuff as usual from our boys.

JFC31


Sat Mar 29 2014 7:38 am EST

PJ: We would be losing the trade big time if it was strait up MSL for Cally, but considering the two high picks I'd say Stevie Y took Sather to the cleaners and this ranks with some of our worst trades.

gene_carr


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:25 am EST

Why is veenyo giving extra ice time to guys who do t deserve it or are not producing? ....http://rangers.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/boxscore?id=2013021106

stevielegs


Sat Mar 29 2014 5:14 am EST

Time to put carcillo back in and sit miller or msl.... Or ......

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 11:34 pm EST

in addition to the 41 we put on net, Calgary blocked an additional 17.

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 11:24 pm EST

Let Hank have Vancouver

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 11:24 pm EST

I would consider playing Talbot in Edmonton

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 11:14 pm EST

Hank steps up and takes blame saying 4th goal allowed a killer....Get them on Sunday...

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 11:10 pm EST

Nash and MSL should dominate a team like Calgary....They did not come close....Nash showed some effort in my opinion....MSL is lost in space....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 11:06 pm EST

4th line playing well will only go far in the playoffs only if first they make it and second if the top lines start scoring on a regular basis. 4th line scoring should be an added bonus not carrying a team.

LetsGoRangers


Fri Mar 28 2014 11:05 pm EST

I am not giving the first line a by. They need to score. But when you suddenly don't have the puck in the offensive zone for about 18:00 a night (which is what Nash/Step/MSL do) then Hank is going to have to face a lot more than the 28 shots he did tonight.

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 11:05 pm EST

Anson Carter...Why?

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 11:02 pm EST

As far as I am concerned that whole first line could go for next year. And still need to buy out Mrs. Richards. Just sick of so many of these guys avoiding contact. Go play in the womens league and get beat up there.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 11:00 pm EST

Miller was having trouble hitting the net but at least he was getting chances....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:58 pm EST

MSL line held to just four shots for the entire game. We saw a lot of those become broken-up passes instead. Meanwhile the fourth line got nine shots, three apiece.

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:55 pm EST

Wow, guys. This team just won five in a row with some pretty emotional games in there. A let-down game was inevitable. One loss against a team with NOTHING to loose and everyone is running for cover to defend themselves from the falling sky. Granted, it was a shitty loss with Lundqvist giving up a few softies, but I'm not going to worry until they start to string losses together. Positives: 4th line looks great. That's going to be big for this team in the playoffs. Lundqvist was angry after this loss and I think this helps him to refocus. Miller looked good in stretches tonight. Yes... the sun will rise tomorrow.

evets1980


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:55 pm EST

Have to realize small guys are just not going to thrive in this system. In the offseason, say goodbye to Zuccarello, and at this point MSL is so frustrating to watch, buy out his final year on his contract. Just when you think SATHER has made some really good trades, he pulls this one and damages the next two years in regards to prospects. A 1st and 2nd. Really! My bet is SATHER signs DANY HEATLEY in the offseason, because we could've had him many years ago and SATHER will get him 5 years too late.

Higgy21


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:55 pm EST

looks like AV double-shifted Nash and Step, holding Miller to just under 10:00. I guess he doesn't trust him yet.

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:53 pm EST

This team needed size but because the MSG spindoctors had to make the Callahan fiasco look like a great trade they pulled the tigger on MSL. We all no better but still eat up the bullshit. Typical, bringing in the older star player who does not really fit on the team. I am thinking his presence in the lineup has screwed up the lines. They better figure this out quick because 9th place is not that far a fall and are we not sick of fighting for the 8th seed already?

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:51 pm EST

Ramo stopped 38 tonight. Hank? 24

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:47 pm EST

St. Louis...what a waste.

LetsGoRangers


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:40 pm EST

So much for the easy schedule....Teams like Calagary are a pain in the ass....And yes the Rangers are mediocre...

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:37 pm EST

Hank giveth hank taketh away ... Can't give up a softie with 8 seconds left .... Guess he thought the period was over....

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:37 pm EST

Wish we could ship that little prick back to Tampa....Play Carcillo next game and bench his sorry ass....Hank had a big hand in the loss also....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:36 pm EST

Calgary was pretty tight in their own zone. Broke up a lot of plays. Hank let in a couple of softies. We got some bad calls and some bad non-calls.

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:36 pm EST

Other than the opening minutes of the 2nd they just did not do enough. No excuse.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:35 pm EST

Completely unacceptable loss can't happen yet it did

jim9k26


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:35 pm EST

And that my friends is why this team is mediocre.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:34 pm EST

Here comes the dickaletti bs

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:31 pm EST

We're making Calgary look like a defensive powerhouse

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:30 pm EST

Perfect....MSL to ensure the loss. MZA is no where near his pre Olympic form. What a waste we needed at least a point. This will be a brutal trip as we once again try to hang on to the 8 spot......I hate Sather and Dolan!!!!!

MelvilleFred


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:29 pm EST

That was a bad call

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:29 pm EST

I take it back they should have scored 12 Calgary d is awful and we can't hit the corners MSL is Marcella Dione and guy lafluer wrapped into one cripes

jim9k26


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:27 pm EST

Win not wine. I whine.

Nick


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:26 pm EST

Can't wine em all but they MUST defeat the hapless Oilers and only slightly less hapless Canucks. 4 of 8 points would be an okay trip. They ain't beating the Lanche.

Nick


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:24 pm EST

Trade they would probably fail to light!

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:22 pm EST

Martin St. Louis should go to the back of the Saddle Dome after the game......throw his yellow hockey sticks into a metal drum garbage can.....douse them with gasoline ....and toss a cigarette onto them

TradeStar28


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:21 pm EST

This whole team looks off. Like they all took a big swig of Nyquil before the game and can't quite focus.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:21 pm EST

Should have about 10 tonight this will be a bad loss if they don't pull it out

jim9k26


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:20 pm EST

Nash shat his pants but then scooped it all back up into his ass

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:17 pm EST

Screw MSL...Now Zucc is looking like crap...He has been awful in this game....GET A GOAL!

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:13 pm EST

Put the 4th line out for the pp...

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:11 pm EST

It looks like Nash and St. Louis are trying to click

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:08 pm EST

Is tht a new shiner on Hags

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:04 pm EST

4th line the only line with any passion. No PP says plenty to me.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:56 pm EST

Considering Nash and MSL are the only forwards with no shots I would say they aren't getting it done....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:56 pm EST

Does seem like Nash has had a hard time protecting the puck

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:52 pm EST

Mess11 any time the puck goes to the boards the Nash line looses it. Passing in oped ice they can control things but it is not enough considering that none of them go to the middle

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:50 pm EST

Actually Klein and Pouliot both throwing thunderous hits. Dorsett has already concussed one player out of the game. We're hitting just fine

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:50 pm EST

Hank not on but we can still win this....If we do I believe we will have a good trip....Very strange game....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:49 pm EST

I think first line is getting their chances. They are hustling. They are just getting stopped.

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:48 pm EST

They better wake up in defense and in goal tonight ... Nash and Marty no shots... Wafj... Just one kick...

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:48 pm EST

This whole team struggles against bigger opponents. Too small and too soft. Sather knows better but is too busy trading for over the hill ex-stars to fill Dopeys marquee.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:46 pm EST

Wow triple play phone

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:46 pm EST

No excuse for the lack of offense from MSL and Nash....Zucc has gone cold also....Wish Miller could hit the damn net.....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:46 pm EST

The nose can't see past it claiming Boyle not back when he was just before he opens his big mouth .. Really paying attention ...

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:45 pm EST

And Stralman is a crease-clearer?

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:45 pm EST

The nose can't see past it claiming Boyle not back when he was just before he opens his big mouth .. Really paying attention ...

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:44 pm EST

I like Diaz but he struggles with the bigger forwards....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:44 pm EST

Wow, they score a few goals and get all complacent. Totally got away from what got them the lead. Amazing how inconsistent this group can be. Again the Nash line has been pretty useless. Not surprising...they have no one on that line that can or has the will to win puck battles.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:41 pm EST

Thought we had taken the game over when we took a 3-2 lead....Hate games like this....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:40 pm EST

Hank not even slamming his stick with conviction anymore

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:39 pm EST

Hank is a little slow tonight

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:39 pm EST

He wasnt ready for the shot

JFC31


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:39 pm EST

Wow bad goal by Hank.....killer with 7 seconds to go!!!!

MelvilleFred


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:39 pm EST

Can't allow that Hank....Dammit....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:37 pm EST

Wow, that floater from Brich to Diaz

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:35 pm EST

The nose can't see past it claiming Boyle not back when he was just before he opens his big mouth .. Really paying attention ...

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:30 pm EST

Haven't seen us this bad in our end in a long time....Tighten up and hit the damn net when you shoot....Stop trying to set up the midget....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:24 pm EST

Maybe they sit strawman .... Nyr are bad in their own zone...

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:23 pm EST

Need to extend Diaz ASAP. Screw Strals

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:16 pm EST

4th line is the new 1st line. 2/3 the same shit bums who weren't worth 6:00 under the last coach

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:15 pm EST

That's better!

JFC31


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:15 pm EST

Mrs Richards!!!!!!!!!!!

MelvilleFred


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:11 pm EST

And why is there a clamoring to get J Moore back in?

MelvilleFred


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:10 pm EST

That's what I'm talking about! Now if that Disney World reject can get a goal were in good shape!

MelvilleFred


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:10 pm EST

Diaz's first!

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:09 pm EST

Wow on the non-goal

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:04 pm EST

Seriously not a game they can let get away. Sorry effort by our 'top' two lines. Nash and MSL really have to start producing...it is becoming a friggin joke. And even worse is the Richards line. Pouliot needs to go back with the Brass line. And they also need to go back to being the 1st PP unit. The offense has bee far too inconsistent. Like I need to remind anyone here. They better pick it up .

NYStranger


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:03 pm EST

MDZs first goal as a Predator. How many goals did that take?

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:01 pm EST

Keep getting these chances and we will score....Have to get the next one though....Why do these no name goalies give us so many problems?....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:59 pm EST

Very concerned about this game.....stating the obvious. Need Pouliott back with MZA and Brassard. No way was Toronto going to let that stand......and I don't think they were wrong. Well let's see what happens.

MelvilleFred


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:59 pm EST

Very concerned about this game.....stating the obvious. Need Pouliott back with MZA and Brassard. No way was Toronto going to let that stand......and I don't think they were wrong. Well let's see what happens.

MelvilleFred


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:52 pm EST

The nyr wild magic numer down to 12? The bus lose to playpens

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:52 pm EST

Was hoping Michelletti wouldn't make the trip....Baloney is so much better....At least the Jackets lost.....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:49 pm EST

The two jerks continue their wishy washy bs banter.. of nose and knows more bs, alias dickaletti...

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:49 pm EST

I mean that in more ways than one

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:49 pm EST

No help from Toronto tonight.

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:46 pm EST

Fourth line our best again...Time for Nash and MSL to take this game over....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:42 pm EST

PJ - probably the correct call, but a wildly inconsistent call. I recall a few goals against the rangers that were very similar. This of off the skate crap is a fucking joke. How about this - the puck crosses the line, unless it's offsides or a penalty, it's goal. PERIOD.

limbo


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:42 pm EST

No easy games....What the hell was going on there....Horrible D....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:24 pm EST

Lots of room out there....We should be able to score a few....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:22 pm EST

Add that to the NY Rangers no goal list...

TradeStar28


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:22 pm EST

No party Marty ... A kick in the arse....

stevielegs


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:22 pm EST

Dorsett dumb penalty....Stralman a joke on the PK....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 8:21 pm EST

He kicked it in. Good call.

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 7:36 pm EST

Straka retires. Scored 65 Ranger goals and set up 122 others.

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 4:52 pm EST

I actually believe the Leafs will get smoked against Philly....Giroux saying Flyers must come out playing with an edge...That means the same old bullshit from them.....Hopefully it backfires....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 4:38 pm EST

Toronto has enough motive to help us tonight (two points puts them back in the bracket) but can they handle Philadelphia?

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 4:13 pm EST

LB reporting Kreider out rest of season for sure and now not sure about playoffs...Also says Kreider wanted to play through the injury but Sather said no after being told long term complications could occur if not treated addressed now....Bummer....Miss having him in the lineup with that speed and strength...

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 3:24 pm EST

Wild...Kreider is having surgery today and will be out indefinately...I say we will face Flyers in first round....They have been beating the good teams so I don't see their schedule as an issue.

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 3:20 pm EST

Looking at the teams final games, of our competition it seems like the Flyers have by far the most difficult schedule with remaining games with 2 against Boston and one against STL, Pitt, CBJ, TOR, TB, FLA and BUFF (the last 2 being, of course, almost freebees). Unfortunately, it looks to me that unless Detroit or Washington make a real run into a PO spot over their last games the team we'd probably play as the 2nd or 3rd team in the division would be CBJ. And with their physicality, size and speed (as a mini-Boston) I think they may be the least attractive team we are likely to play in the first round....

Ranger47


Fri Mar 28 2014 3:18 pm EST

Vic: Totally concur. Dumb trade. Getting dumber with his lousy output/contributions to date. Lets hope he doesn't prove to be another Luc Robitialle. Or Barry Beck. Or Eric Lindros. Or.....

RF4L


Fri Mar 28 2014 3:18 pm EST

WILDCARD: Do I really need to answer that question? Isn't the answer obvious? But, since you want to play that game I'll turn it around on you. Since you don't know that MSL can be resigned after next year the deal was really just for the remainder of this year and next year. Also, since the Rangers would have had CALLY if they didn't trade for MSL this year is little more then a wash, especially considering the way the two players are playing. What it comes down to then is this. The Rangers traded away a #1 and #2 pick for 1 year of MSL's career (next year). Do you like that trade? I don't.

Vic


Fri Mar 28 2014 3:00 pm EST

KIS: No one, not a single person has said he had a broken hand. The injury has not been disclosed. I am wondering if it was a nerve issue, or a ligament issue. AV said he could have played with it...and that it was "just" a pain management issue. So clearly someone decided to get control of it now for some reason.

Wildcard


Fri Mar 28 2014 2:59 pm EST

Vic: So that site can see what player moves will be made in the off-season to show you that having MSL for a full season next year will not increase their odds of getting to the cup finals?

Wildcard


Fri Mar 28 2014 2:54 pm EST

&#8207;@THNRonnieShuker The Penguins started the season 7-1-0 while the Rangers began 2-6-0. Since then, Pittsburgh is 39-21-5 and New York is 39-23-4.

Wildcard


Fri Mar 28 2014 2:45 pm EST

Truly not a fan of Simmons cheap shot artist with lots of after the whistle bullshit. Can't wait till someone does him in.....naturally it won't be anyone on our squad.

MelvilleFred


Fri Mar 28 2014 2:40 pm EST

Mess11...truly frightening post....if this guy has nothing going on that's troubling hoim then he just blows and we spent a 1st and 2nd round pick. I'm praying it's marital problems....then at least there is hope for a recovery! This guy did not come cheap!!

MelvilleFred


Fri Mar 28 2014 2:19 pm EST

On MSL, lets remember that his whining in Tampa actually served to lower the price for us, high though that it was. As for here? I don't hear him whining. He demanded to play through his flu, as a matter of fact. I just hear a bunch of unsubstantiated gossip about his marital life. I wouldn't hold rumors against him. Especially ones that he hasn't complained about.

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 2:18 pm EST

Cally 4-4-8 in 11 games with TB. If we got the real MSL, then fine. But we should have known. Sather only throws money at guys who come from outside.

Nick


Fri Mar 28 2014 2:15 pm EST

With JFC and Bob on Simmonds. The guy's a puke but I don't give two shits about his 'ghetto' background. Good thing racism is dead! With Dugster and others on MSL. Like he's the only guy in the league with personal problems. I have plenty and still manage to do my job. Put the puck in the net, Marty. You acted like a whiny ass in TB so let's have some results now that you got your wish. Yet ANOTHER in the epically long line of 1,000-year-old big-name NYR flops.

Nick


Fri Mar 28 2014 1:50 pm EST

RF4L: Never was in my eyes. Before the trade went down my feeling was that if they got MSL in a swap for CALLY the Rangers chances of making the playoffs were much better. I also thought that it would take them from being a pretender in the playoffs, to being the bottom rung of the teams that had at least an outside chance of being in the Cup Finals. I never would have made the trade if it included draft picks and or legitimate prospects. As soon as the trade went down I came on here and said that SATHER got fleeced in a HORRIBLE deal. Looking at it now, the Rangers chances of making the playoffs are close to 100% even though MSL has had little or nothing to do with them getting to that point. The jury is still out on what MSL will mean for the playoffs. If he continues to produce at his current rate then the Rangers may be out in round 1. If he finds his game and goes on a hot streak he could provide a lot of the offense the Rangers will need to advance past the first 2 rounds. Right now it doesn't look good but I haven't given up hope that he finds his game. I like MSL as a player. I think most of us here do. I just wouldn't have traded anything......ANYTHING....that would have hurt this team in the future to get him. I would have dumped CALLY for whatever I could get for him in picks/prospects. And again, remember CHRIS BROWN's name. He was available from PHOENIX and ended up going in the ERAT deal. The Rangers could have gotten BROWN and a draft pick for CALLY and would have been so much better off for next year and beyond. All part of why I hate DOLAN/SATHER and feel this team will never achieve anything until both are long gone.

Vic


Fri Mar 28 2014 1:38 pm EST

But what did he do n the Columbus game? was it during a scrum? Did he block a shot? Seems fishy

KIS


Fri Mar 28 2014 1:36 pm EST

Vic: But MSL is the latest saviour, is he not?

RF4L


Fri Mar 28 2014 1:35 pm EST

Here is another one: http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html

Vic


Fri Mar 28 2014 1:31 pm EST

Kreider injured his hand in the Columbus game....They said it occurred when he went after Johansson....I remember the incident but it looked harmless to me....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 1:30 pm EST

Updated playoff and Cup probabilities: (http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/playoff_prob.cgi)..........According to them the Rangers are now a 98.7% lock to make the playoffs. The are currently given a 3.9% chance of winning the Cup. That is close, but a little below what we were looking at before the Trade Deadline. IIRC the Rangers were given a 5% chance of winning the Cup at that time. I can't say that I disagree with either the playoff percentage or the Cup percentage at this time. The Rangers would really need to implode to not make the playoffs now. But, regardless of where they qualify their odds are very long at best. This was my argument for why the MSL trade (giving away the picks) was a horrible deal. The Rangers have the thinnest of prayers of making it to the Conference Finals (not to mention the Cup Finals). Trading away any future assets or picks made no sense then and it makes no sense now.

Vic


Fri Mar 28 2014 1:29 pm EST

Hopefully the stinkin Pens can help out and beat the Jackets tonight....Also be very afraid of teams out of the playoff picture...I take no comfort in playing teams that will be taking chances all over the place....

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 1:22 pm EST

Does anybody know how Kreider broke his hand?

KIS


Fri Mar 28 2014 1:13 pm EST

So I was bored and wanted to see how close the rangers were to a playoff spot. For a division spot the magic number is 14 (gained by NYR or lost by CBUS) and for a wildcard spot it's 13 (gained by NYR lost by DET). So they need to go 7-1-0 or 6-0-2 the rest of the way to guaranty a spot as of today in the division...but that would mean CBus went 10-0-0. I don't see that happening...so the Rangers can probably go 5-3-0 and make it as a division team. Let's root for a CBus 3 game loosing streak...then they only need go 4-4.

Wildcard


Fri Mar 28 2014 1:06 pm EST

We may have gotten to the finals in 2011-12 if we hadn't of run the biggest thorn in Brodeur's side off the team before facing them in the Conference finals. The definition of stubbornness, boneheadedness. Self before team.

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 12:44 pm EST

Never took this place for being so PC. Folks need to lighten up a bit. BTW.., did I say how much I love Sean Avery! The f@#% MAN!

pa.rangersfan


Fri Mar 28 2014 12:38 pm EST

Kreider to have surgery - out indefinitely.

RF4L


Fri Mar 28 2014 12:34 pm EST

I feel pretty good about this road trip. All but two of our remaining games are against teams that are outside of the playoffs bracket. We are a much better team on the road for whatever season. Glad Miller and Diaz are in. Unfortunately, it took injuries to Krieder and Moore for that to happen. LGR

Messier11


Fri Mar 28 2014 10:49 am EST

james norris was one of the pioneers of the nhl . he simultaneously owned the black hawks , red wings and part of the ny rangers, msg and was jnstrumental in the construction of chicago stadium . his daughter , maurgerite was the president of the detroit red wings during their stanly cup run in the early 1950's

docjay


Fri Mar 28 2014 9:18 am EST

With all of the success the Rangers have had in recent games I should feel good about this upcoming trip....It scares me to be honest....Calagary has been playing well lately....Need to start the trip off right.....LGR

PJ


Fri Mar 28 2014 7:48 am EST

RF73: Wow, has it been that long already. I remember watching the game and being stunned when MALIK pulled that move. Thanks for posting the link. Seeing all of those guys brought back some memories.

Vic


Fri Mar 28 2014 3:15 am EST

mf.....we've all played with or against guys that were big and strong....but did not have the fire and heart to make it a deciding factor in a game.....I give you Brian Boyle. The guy gives it his best shot and wins more face offs than he looses with 4th line minutes so it is what it is.....

MelvilleFred


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:51 pm EST

I don't have a lock on it. Seems like a number of things, some things only in combination with others. //// have been a Rangers fan since I was a hockey fan, have only liked the hometown team for the past decade or so. I was the only kid in St. Louis with a closet full of Messier jerseys. I have really enjoyed the direction they're going in since JD, and it would be awesome for that team, that franchise, the city to win a Cup. That being said, if they ever meet up against us in the Finals, I will be in hog heaven, but I will also hope we knock them out.

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:32 pm EST

Mess: what's the latest set of keystrokes that don't let you cut & paste to post here? And BTW, if the Rangers can't win it all, I hope your St. Louis Blues do.

mf


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:00 pm EST

Blues are on FIRE! Oshie's turn for a hattie tonight

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 9:18 pm EST

Hard to believe this was almost 9 years ago...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhM3ET3ld1A

RF73


Thu Mar 27 2014 8:41 pm EST

Rick Nash told Pat Leonard that Ryan McDonagh is the "leading candidate" for the team's captaincy.

Rhet0ric


Thu Mar 27 2014 8:35 pm EST

Callahan two goals tonight vs Fishsticks.....

PJ


Thu Mar 27 2014 8:20 pm EST

mf...I am well aware Boyle is big....But when he fights he looks like the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz trying to keep his balance.....He will never be our answer for that scum bag Simmonds....

PJ


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:51 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2dyccZCou4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnVPhOw0iK8

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:36 pm EST

btw- I wonder if Brock Beukeboom and Barron Smith ever played a shift together growing up. Maybe the "twin toddlers" pairing

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:30 pm EST

just updated the wikipedia page on stay-at-home defenders, adding Beukeboom to the notables list, making sure to bump Daneyko from his previous unfathomable spot just after Stevens and above Chelios!! obviously originally written by a Devils fan.

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:28 pm EST

Rhet- agreed. Even the description of the trophy states "all-around play" someone like Byfuglien, for instance, shouldn't ever be nominated.

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:26 pm EST

BTW, Does anyone know who James E. Norris was?

Rhet0ric


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:24 pm EST

Mess... Tongue-in-cheek... The Selke is for the best defensive forward. It's a joke that in the NHL you can only win an award for being the best Offensive Defenseman(Norris), but not the best Defensive Defenseman. Offensive stats are always the deciding category. It makes no sense when the word "Defense" in in the very name of the position. Ass-backwards League.

Rhet0ric


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:06 pm EST

The Richie Pilon Trophy

JFC31


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:49 pm EST

I guess that discussion was about creating a purely offensive defenseman trophy, the Bobby Orr trophy. Given that Orr won more Norris trophies than anyone else, I would think they should go the other way. The Jeff Beukeboom trophy, perhaps?

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:43 pm EST

technically, we are the longest O'Brian Cup dynasty, having held it for 63 years now

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:41 pm EST

By the way- is anyone else aware that we are the defending O'Brien Trophy champions? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Brien_Trophy

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:40 pm EST

I think defensemen are barred from consideration for the Selke. Wasn't there some discussion about creating a purely defensive defenseman trophy?

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:40 pm EST

PJ: I met Brian Boyle and shook hands.... Brian Boyle is a big, strong man, don't let his good clean sportsmanship deceive you...

mf


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:15 pm EST

Lot's of talk today about McDonagh being a Norris trophy finalist. I'm glad to see him finally get the recognition he's due, but he's a long shot to win the award. IMO, his best bet will be to win the Selke as the League's best defensive defenseman ....JFC31... Great post. I'm totally with you brother ...Wild...I totally agree, it's not retaliation on Simmonds that we need, it's a Wayne Simmonds-type that we need on this team.

Rhet0ric


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:14 pm EST

Need a little help tonight from the hubcaps and the fishsticks

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 5:57 pm EST

If I were still a WALL poster, I would echo what JFC said here. Just an idiotic post about Simmonds that should not be tolerated by anyone, anywhere. Back to the tank.

Bob


Thu Mar 27 2014 5:33 pm EST

I agree.

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 5:32 pm EST

That has nothing to do with what was posted about him and it also doesn't make what was said and done moral. There's no reason for making comments about a player that have anything to do with his race.

JFC31


Thu Mar 27 2014 5:20 pm EST

It was kind of hard to take Simmonds' complaints about the epithets seriously after he was caught on television calling Avery a faggot the next week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVQ2-kEnEMc

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 4:54 pm EST

I'd take Wayne Simmonds on my team any day of the week and twice on Sunday! Because he' black, he's from a "ghetto" jerry_garcia? My father grew up in a ghetto and so did a lot of other immigrants. Where a person lives or is from is not an excuse to stereotype. The way a person lives their lives and conducts themselves off the ice is fair game to make a judgement. I guess it was OK when a fan threw a banana at him when he took a penalty shot? Or when those a-holes on Czech Republic chanted "monkey" at him? That kind of horseshit should stay off The Wall. I don't give a sh!t if anyone disagrees!

JFC31


Thu Mar 27 2014 4:45 pm EST

If Messier were coach, Ill bet he would suit up for practices and hold players "accountable"

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 4:37 pm EST

Flyers / Boston Sunday.... I hope they kill each other ...... May be a good game to watch ......

mf


Thu Mar 27 2014 4:33 pm EST

Live by the stick, die by the stick...... Messier would have crosschecked Simmonds wherever the pads weren't ...... jmhon

mf


Thu Mar 27 2014 4:28 pm EST

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/after-brodeur-s--embarrassing--call-out--sean-avery-responds-with-burn-of-the-year-174525725.html

stevielegs


Thu Mar 27 2014 4:19 pm EST

may be stymie....it's must be my lucky day.....may choke artie.....

stevielegs


Thu Mar 27 2014 4:02 pm EST

legs...That is hystercal....Who killed Buckwheat?....lol

PJ


Thu Mar 27 2014 4:00 pm EST

buckwheat?

stevielegs


Thu Mar 27 2014 3:46 pm EST

Boyle is NOT A FIGHTER. But a Gentle GIANT.

rangerlou


Thu Mar 27 2014 3:36 pm EST

Wild....Chara would have knocked the crap out of Simmonds after the first slash...Someone needs to be on the ice to handle him at a time like that....A couple of years ago we had Prust, Bickel etc and now we really have nobody....mf...Simmonds would drop Boyle like a sack of wheat.......

PJ


Thu Mar 27 2014 2:48 pm EST

This is What we need ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!! http://www.keepbusy.net/play.php?id=hockey-fight-knockout

rangerlou


Thu Mar 27 2014 2:39 pm EST

Simmonda the Douchebag needs to go back to the ghetto where he belongs. What a POS. Philthy, what a bunch of low life scum-bags and it all starts with the so-called coach.

Jerry_Garcia


Thu Mar 27 2014 2:37 pm EST

Wildcard i understand....... I really do. I palyed High school and College Hockey. But enough is enough.

rangerlou


Thu Mar 27 2014 2:31 pm EST

Rangerlou - When you put it that way...The Flyers act like a team of Putin's?

RF73


Thu Mar 27 2014 2:28 pm EST

Rangerlou- I agree for sure, Philly get special threatment. I am sure both in a good and bad way. But reff's let games get away when they play, in a way they never would let like a game between say Boston and Pittsburgh go nuts. When a Thornton goes after a Orpik, the ref's deems it a no-no and its a major crack-down. Everything is called. Etc etc etc. In Philly, an Emry can go nuts and nothing will happen.

Ola


Thu Mar 27 2014 2:26 pm EST

rangerlou: Sorry you will never have a single player, or a team of players, that will stop Simmonds from doing what he did. You are like so many who seem to think you can scare these guys. Simmonds has hacked at Chara, and hacked at and gotten into scrums with some of the biggest toughest guys in the NHL...he isn't going to be scared.

Wildcard


Thu Mar 27 2014 2:21 pm EST

rangerlou: Yep and Glen Sather puts together a team that is like a red flag to bullies. IMO, that's as bad as anything Simmonds did.

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:58 pm EST

PJ i was watching the last seconds of the game on my DVR and you can see it coming. Hartnell Simmonds and Rinaldo were foaming at the mouth. Four officials on the ice. You figure at least one of them has the Wisdom to sense that it was ready to Explode. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO. Just watch and react. Instead od Acting before they pull this Crappola. They know ....Like a Bully knows there is no one who is going to do something. They just snicker and wait for their opportunities.!!

rangerlou


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:57 pm EST

RangerLou: That Players name is Brian Boyle.... Big "IF" BB threw just 1 temper tandrum and tossed Simmonds like a rag doll, the entire league will take notice.... However, others need to step to the plate and have BB's back, and each others back.... jmho naturally.....

mf


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:49 pm EST

I'm with you rangerlou....The thing with Simmonds last night is still bugging me....Another unanswered shitty thing done to a Ranger by a Flyer....Just add it to the list........

PJ


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:35 pm EST

see the wall

ges999


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:35 pm EST

you guys certainly like your gossip

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:31 pm EST

At the end of the day. We need someone ANYONE that will make a player ON ANY TEAM not even imagine of pulling What that Douchebag Simmonds did Last night. Someone who can grab his Nappy hair and deliver a WhoppppppAsssssssss that will put the rest of the Flyers on NOTICE.

rangerlou


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:29 pm EST

I thought they put Opra in Jambaliya & Gumbo...... How bout them Rangers, 3 - 1 over Philly, thats whats so.... 8 to go, one game at a time....... Next stop, extinguish the Flames ! End of off topic afternoon rant, thank you very much. Oh yeah, "And Thank you Bob Gainey !....... :-)

mf


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:29 pm EST

Maybe if MSL is going through a divorce he's just horny. Somebody take him to a whore house and see if that works.

RJ


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:26 pm EST

the best part is supposedly he just went home to greenwhich this week. he's neen staying in a hotel. ....wtf?.....hope he gets on track before next season......has sather retired yet?.......he's waiting for his dirt nap?.....

stevielegs


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:25 pm EST

I could see bumping up Dorsett, even though I wouldn't do it. But when Carcillo plays it is for a couple minutes less than his line mates. What makes you think he can play 12:00, 15:00, 20:00?

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 1:18 pm EST

What the hell have we Become the OPRA SHOW? I dont give a shit about MSL wife, or any of that nonsense. I see a spoiled little bitch who didn't get his way ,,coped an attitude with his GM and whinned his way to the FAT CAT NY RANGERS,,,,,,,,I never liked him but having to watch him play if sickening, I can deal with a tough small guy like MZ,,,,,,MSL is not and has not played tough,,,,,thank god the team is winning,,,,the media is not saying much( but milbury) because everybody loves MSL,,,iF IT WAS A RUSSIAN PLAYER the media would be on fire,,,,,,MSL is here for one reason,,,,Goals......he has not scored one with almost 20 minutes of ice time every night,,,,,,,his personal life needs to stay in the lockerroom,,he is being paid a kings ransom,,,,,,,,,F'marty,,,,,,

thedugster


Thu Mar 27 2014 12:38 pm EST

Wild...Totally disagree with your assessment of MSL....It isn't just two games he has been a non factor in...This guy has been a huge disappointment in near every game...I don't care how close he was standing to the guy that scored...Girardi and Dorsett are outscoring him since he came here....We run the PP through him on the sideboards and it doesn't work at all....Zucc was a better choice to run it through.....If it is personal issues I get it but don't paint this rosy picture and make all of these excuses...So far this trade has been horrible....Much rather have Cally and my picks back....Hopefully he comes to life on the road trip....Unless of course he develops a bad hang nail which could prevent him from performing....

PJ


Thu Mar 27 2014 12:29 pm EST

WILDCARD: The funny thing about line combinations is that you never really know what is going to work until you try it. Sometimes combos that look great on paper just down work out. Sometimes combos that shouldn't work all of the sudden do. Sometimes a guy can be a perfect fit on a line. I'm not saying CARCILLO with STEPAN and NASH is going to work but it is worth a try. And, if it works I would leave it that way. That is what chemistry is all about. And, if you can get production out of a guy like CARCILLO on that line it frees up KREIDER (when he gets back) or someone else for another line. I just think AV has been really lucky the last two weeks. He has been tampering with the lines in a bad way (by breaking up what has been working) and has still managed to win 5 in a row even though the forwards in the top 3 lines haven't scored much. It costs nothing to try CARCILLO on the "1st Line" because it doesn't seem to have a lot of chemistry even with KREIDER in the lineup.

Vic


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:49 am EST

JCF: That's been missing from this club for 2 years now and worse, we got to enjoy it that year after a ridiculously long stretch of what we saw (well,, didn't see) last night. What's with this organization anyways? They've been on the receiving end of crap like last night far more often over the past 4 decades than not. I don't get it. I truly don't.

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:41 am EST

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WOR7qNaqGZE

JFC31


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:41 am EST

This is exactly what is missing from the Rangers and exactly what I want to see when McIllWrath gets here. Simmonds wouldn't stand a chance.

JFC31


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:41 am EST

Wild; Good....because they gave way too much up for him to be an ineffective 3rd liner.

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:40 am EST

If MSL is having marriage and family problems I can see why he just isn't as sharp. Im going through shit myself and it is the worst time of my life. Especially if children are involved and the other is a nasty bitch. Your mind is not what it usually is. To make matters worse you don't sleep normally. all that is bad for MSL. His game is built on speed both physically and mentally. The way I feel at times now I have a hard time finding home. I just drive.

KIS


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:36 am EST

RF4L: No but since you are basing your appraisal on 2 games, and i think one of them he was sick...you didn't get to see how effective he was on the ice. He was making plays, he was the reason a couple goals went in, either from great passes or being in the slot and being a screen, and in one case the defender tying up MSL's stick had his stick in the lane, the puck went off it and in, if MSL was not there at the right time looking for the tip/screen there is no goal. There is more than the score sheet shows. He also single handed broke up quite a few plays to get the puck going back in the Rangers favor. He has more often than not been a good player on the ice...even though he passes far too much, and I think that will wear off as he realizes the rest of the team wont think he was a puck hog.

Wildcard


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:33 am EST

I really enjoyed our domination of the Flyers last night. I wonder if StL was forcing a trade to the Rangers because he felt that the separation from his wife ( her in CT, him in Tampa) was contributing to his divorce woes. Maybe he thought he could patch things up if he was closer to her. I thought played well in period 1 and showed some chemistry with Nash. Also, he was playing LW since Nash is also a RW...that's a big change. Still, just our luck that he's screwed up. But if he can get it together for the POs that would be sweet. As for Simmonds, McIlraith would kick his ass in short order. He's too tall, too heavy and throws too many good, straight punches for Simmonds to handle.

JFC31


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:27 am EST

Has MSL had the flu since becoming a Ranger??

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:26 am EST

Miller for the top line sure...Carcillo, No. Its not that I think poorly of him, its just that he looks good because he isn't against top D and top defensive forwards. He looks good against other teams bottom 6 and 3rd pair...he wouldn't be "bad" but I don't think he would help either, granted he may give the other two some courage, but against who? Who on the lines and D going against the Rangers top line would dance with him? No one...so all that would come of him being there would be the PK due to retaliatory penalties. Maybe he could be put there a shift here and there, but not full time.

Wildcard


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:23 am EST

PJ: I really don't think it was lazy...I think it was half dead from being sick. IMHO he looked like he just COULDN'T get up and get going...early in the game he had some jump, then it just vanished. I think he probably felt a lot better than he actually was. Stepan had some of the same, he disappeared late, in fact I thought perhaps he wasn't playing until I saw him skating back late one time...and it wasn't due to not going hard, he just looked like he had lead skates on.

Wildcard


Thu Mar 27 2014 11:16 am EST

At this point I would be fine with either MILLER or CARCILLO with STEPAN and NASH. MILLER would bring a bigger body and more playmaking ability. CARCILLO would bring toughness and some level of protection for arguably the two softest players on the team. CARCILLO also has a pretty good shot so if STEPAN can get him the puck he could produce on that line. As for MSL, I think they should put him back with RICHARDS and HAGS. He and HAGS showed some good chemistry in those first few games they played together. MSL just didn't score so they moved things around trying to get him going. I haven't seen MSL look any better with others then he did in that first and second game with HAGS and RICHARDS. Besides, I like the idea of having scoring threats on all three of those lines. It makes matching up against the Rangers hard.

Vic


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:53 am EST

5-3 should get them a home playoff round but It's a stretch to expect anything more. Now 6-2....Thay cannot lose to calgary or Edmonton is conclusion I have come too or they will open on road in round 1.

shonuff


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:39 am EST

I almost never agree with Milbury but I believe he is right when he said no excuses for MSL....He needs to perform...He rarely has the puck which is just not him....As for his D?....Last night he was lazy in the defensive zone....Nash and Stepan were more active defensively...Maybe the problem is personal but if we didn't know who this guy was we wouldn't be near this patient...

PJ


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:34 am EST

Wild: Maybe...and now if he's in a funk because it was all for naught, well Sather and the Rangers are left holding the bag. Sure hope whatever's bothering him clears up soon. From what I've seen so far (2 games) he's bringing nothing and I'd rather have Callahan in the lineup (let alone coughing up 2 high picks, too).

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:24 am EST

RF4L: Maybe that's why he demanded the trade in the first place...to try and save his marriage....I mean, he may have loved TBL, and the TB area, but maybe his wife wanted to be home, and he did everything he could to get that for her....I know that I would do something like that in a heartbeat if I thought it would save my relationship....I mean, talk about a "nice" choice...to "have" to play for the Rangers an original 6 team....course we will never know...but it would seem to make some sense.

Wildcard


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:22 am EST

And imagine if Simmonds had succeeded in breaking McD's hand? The noise on here would be deafening I suspect (rightfully so). For sure, the Rangers dodged a bullet.

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:20 am EST

Another problem: The Rangers don't take anyone out. That attitude vanished inexplicably early in round 1 of the Ranger/Senator series 2 springs ago.

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:19 am EST

I am missing something here? MSL's marriage has fallen apart, yet didn't he demand a trade but only to the Rangers because his wife's family is from Conneticut???

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:15 am EST

I too would like to see the MZa - Brassard - Poul line back together. If Kreider is out for a long time does anybody think putting carcillo on the line with Step and Nash would be a good idea. carcillo could annoy the shit out of people and give some protection for Nash. Might make nash feel more comfortable. I don't know if MSL is the answer for that line. both he and Nash like the puck a lot. Anybody think Miller ready for this ride at the current time? If he were confident and didn't know any better like Kreider did 2 years ago, I would say ok but the kid plays with a fear of making a mistake with the big team. He doesn't play like he doesn't know any better and just play confidently.

KIS


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:12 am EST

Mess: One problem...Rangers take out Simminds and the Flyers will want to "one-up" the Rangers...say good by Hank....lets not bring the Rangers down to their level, sure Id love to have McIlrath on the blueline so if something like that happens there is instant reprisal, but "clean" reprisal within the "rules" of hockey. (fights get punished but are within the rules, slashes are not really) but otherwise score more goals then they do. If they continue to play like that eventually the refs will call the penalties, the Rangers will get back going on the PP and the Flyers will go home from the playoffs with a first round exit. If the Rangers start to play the same stupid games then they could be the ones on the PL all game long and they would go home early. They have the longest active winning streak in the NHL and are one of the top 10 in wins, number 8 in ROW (only 1 less win in one more GP than Chicago) they are not some slouch team that cant win with out the stupid side show acts....lets not hope to see them start doing that now, they have gotten where they are by staying away from that crap.

Wildcard


Thu Mar 27 2014 10:06 am EST

MSL: One thing we need to remember is that it usually takes a player a few games to get going with a new team, and usually it takes 10-15 before they actually look comfortable in all aspects of the game. MSL was approaching that time frame and then got sick, that doesn't help, and I am sure both he and Stepan were feeling the effects from being sick for a couple days especially late in shifts and late in the game. You then have too look at the fact that MSL has not looked out of place defensively. I know there are those that think he is here for 1 reason only and that is to score goals...but that is a naive and narrow minded way to look at hockey and hockey players. His job is to help the team win....if that's by being good defensively than so be it. His offensive game will come around...wouldn't be shocked if this 4 game road trip doesn't help him. Being on the road will take the pressure off of him for trying to get one at home with the fans watching and all. On the road is where individual players and teams get off the snide, so lets hope it works this week. Getting more rest to get his strength back from being sick and the benefits of being on the road a few days could work wonders...just have to wait and see what way it goes.

Wildcard


Thu Mar 27 2014 9:52 am EST

You knew that with a few seconds left Those Scumbags were going to pull a Douchebag act. This is Bobby Clarks team. Remember how he played. He lit the fuse then let his goons clean up.

rangerlou


Thu Mar 27 2014 9:50 am EST

if Simmonds wants to cheap-shot us, we can cheap-shot him right back. hands break all the time.

Messier11


Thu Mar 27 2014 9:44 am EST

Great WIN last night especially with 2 goals coming from th e4th line! MSL is dealing with personal issues.....read divorce so yeah I could see him not being with us mentally. Hopefully there is a resolution soon...Great game by Hank and McD of course. Always good to beat the Flyers. And as Vic said I'm also praying that they reunite the MZA/Brassard/Pouliott line.

MelvilleFred


Thu Mar 27 2014 9:26 am EST

Great game by HANK last night. In all honesty that was the first game this year where I thought HANK looked like the goaltender he was a year or two ago. His positioning was great. His movements were quick and precise. His anticipation was excellent. He looked confident and on top of the world. Much different from the guy who has spent a lot of this season flopping on the ice, being indecisive and slow to react. If the issue has been confidence he finally looked like the confident goaltender he has been in the past. As for the rest of the team.......Great game by the 4th line again. As I've said before this is the best 4th line I can remember the Rangers having in ages and it starts with MOORE. BOYLE looks like his is upping his game lately in time for the playoffs and both CARCILLO and DD have been solid players who have drawn more calls then they have gotten against them. CARCILLO has outplayed DD overall in my opinion but if DD plays like he did last night it is a push as to who is better. McSSIAH was tremendous again and the entire defense played well. I'm glad McSSIAH is starting to get NORRIS attention now because even though I don't think he has a chance to win it this year it will establish him as a guy who should be looked at for it seriously next year. Finally, a plea to AV. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE reunite the MZA-BRASSARD-POULIOT line. That line was a consistent force every night for the last few months. I understand why he broke it up in an attempt to get MSL going. However, that hasn't worked and it is killed the one line you could count on to generate offense every game. Leave that line alone and tinker with the other two until you have at least one more line that works.

Vic


Thu Mar 27 2014 9:11 am EST

Was clearly intent to injure and Simmonds should be suspended but won't be...He breaks McD's hand there and our season is over....League won't police this so teams need to do it themselves....We do need someone to beat the crap out of him...This is one dirty player...Hartnell the same...He always pulls crap at the end of of a loss...

PJ


Thu Mar 27 2014 9:10 am EST

the 2nd slash on the bare hand was a CLEAR intent to injure. The NHL suspends guys for shoulder hits that may or may not be "intended" to injure-THAT was intended to break MCD's hand. That film should be sent to the league-no question.

puckyou


Thu Mar 27 2014 8:38 am EST

Great game and we got the much needed two points. Two things that came to my mind this morning St Louis looks like either misses the Tampa Bikini Beach Weather or This is not the team for him?????? Number two.... Diaz has on hell of a shot!!!!!

rangerlou


Thu Mar 27 2014 8:10 am EST

stevie: Trust me, I'm with you on this one, without a doubt. I hate that crap and wish the league had the guts to eliminate it. They don't because they want it in the game, of that I'm convinced. They are petrified that their product without the violence and overt intimidation would have no attraction for too many Americans - I'm absolutely convinced of that. I mean, why else wouldn't they do precisely as you say? Simmonds behaviour was clearly an intent to injure act. So obvious to me.

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:54 am EST

rf true, but it was at the end of a game with the score 3-1....that was clearly an intent to injure. he slashed him twice, first knocked the glove off, second was on his bare hand or wrist.....guess he had to break something and then the nhl could claim it was in the heat of a battle to try and tie a game so it could go to overtime so the cryers could win in ot to make it perfect for their nbc crew and all the rest for a great story line drama the were trying to predict......too bad the nyr wrote their own script......where did those two guys Millbury and jones? get those haircuts...at a barber school run by the lighthouse for the blind ? .. cost $1.50?....priceless....not even for free..put little square mustaches on them and think about who they would look like......emerick should ladle himself more vodka or whatever he alters his mouth with.....besides the Comcast nbc cryer nhl connection of conflict of interest.....

stevielegs


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:26 am EST

stevie: Don't bet on it - the NHL quietly loves that sort of crap and enables it.

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:25 am EST

IMO, McI is precisely what is needed on this club, a McI who can play, I mean. Pound the snot out of assholes like Hartnell and Simmonds.

RF4L


Thu Mar 27 2014 7:19 am EST

Have to give some credit to the Flyer scouts: getting a guy like Shawn Coutier(sp) from a homeless shelter . Good stuff.

gene_carr


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:56 am EST

Good game (of course, because they won) last night. Lundqvist was terrific. The only negative was that he didn't get the shutout. After the first period it appeared to me that the Rangers defense really clamped down on the Flyers and the number of chances they got after that first period were few. I thought that Miller played a pretty good game. I didn't exactly focus on him, but it seemed that when he was on the ice he was really involved.

RJ


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:44 am EST

nhl going to suspend Simmonds? ....they should,,,,

stevielegs


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:25 am EST

read #11......http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2014/03/27/rangers-flyers-review-3/

stevielegs


Thu Mar 27 2014 6:01 am EST

dugster, sather decided to trade Callahan, and gave up 2 picks to do that while getting msl instead of nothing. he could have kept Callahan and 2 picks. but to claim msl is a bust is subjective. he has 3 assists in 12 games...Callahan has 2 goals and 4 assists in 10 games.....all that matters to me right now is that the nyr are winning. ...msl will come around, and he'll be here next season......

stevielegs


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:31 pm EST

Dugster... I thought he was starting to look comfortable tonight. Hopefully, that translates into goals soon.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:26 pm EST

Always great to beat the Animals in Orange,,,,,,but MSL looked good? What where you watching? he is here to do ONE thing score goals,,,,so far he is a total zero!!!!!!!!

thedugster


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:40 pm EST

Rhet: you didn't, you said, "he could've had that one." I guess he could have. IMO, his odds would have been way better on his feet. Hope he watches that one on tape.. He had one of our Dmen to his stick side like just off center of his crease, so he could have cheated a bit to the post... He's a big guy, and while on his feet in a croutch position, he fills plernty of net including the top at crossbar level with his shoulders.. Shoulders are much wider than the head, and IMO, it's easier to block the low shots from that angle than the high one's.... BFG, we won & that's all that matters..... 8 games to go, one at a time, next stop Calgary....

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:37 pm EST

Fleury didn't retire from lack of production. And our current "washed up" star has 29 on the year. Lets temper the rhetoric a little, tie it to some reality.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:33 pm EST

According to the team website, MSL has an inch on MZA and they are within a pound of each other. They both have some height on Theo Fleury however, who could probably take both on in a fight simultaneously, so I doubt it matters much.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:30 pm EST

RF: We won 3-1 against these disgusting lowlife's... Enjoy it.. We can bash Sather tomorrow. :-) ....... And not for nothing, we got Girardi without a pick, Pouliot was & is a great find, and Diaz is working his way in as good as one could have hoped for..... Right now, we're looking like we'll make the PO's, and could even win a round..... Ya never know....

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:29 pm EST

Jim,PJ.MSL is starting to remind me of Theo Fleury little bit a small washed up player is trying to keep up .

ilya


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:26 pm EST

MF, Newfie... Where did I say that Hank didn't play well?

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:18 pm EST

mf: Nope....I am mediocre-phobe!

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:13 pm EST

RF4L: Are you a "midgetphobe?" ;->

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:10 pm EST

And concur the King was on. And when he's on, he's fabulous.

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:09 pm EST

Oops...meant to say I noticed him because he looked so tiny and didn't accomplish anything (in comparison to MZA).

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:09 pm EST

Rhet: IMO, Hank played excellent against these scumbuckets.... The only way he was stopping that last shot was with his mask or staying on his feet... The shot was a blister .....

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:08 pm EST

PJ: I didn't focus on him particularly, but certainly noticed when he was out there. He and MZA are about the same size (although MZA looks wider/stockier) and I sure noticed MZA far more than I did MSL. What the funk is going on with him, anyways???

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:08 pm EST

Another very good game for us, considering that ALL cylinders are not firering...........If AV wants to improve the PP he has to stop using two rights as one set on the points and then two lefts.........Sather went out and got RD's and LDs for that purpose ........time to use them..........RhetOric, Hank could've had the shut out, if he moves over (not even out, just over),no ,he moves back in and to the post ?

Newfie_Ranger


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:07 pm EST

None of our forwards on the top three lines had a single point tonight. It may just be that we are deeper than a lot of teams and they just cant hang with our 4th line.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:06 pm EST

Did anyone hear this gem from that moron Doc Emdik: "What would be best for both teams would be a Flyers OT win. That way each team would have 85 points and they would each be 5 points ahead of the teams behind them..." WTF?

ColoradoMark


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:03 pm EST

If only Bickel could handle 15:00 a night

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:00 pm EST

RF...Thought MSL had a decent first period and then he disappeared...Actually was watching him and he wasn't busting it that is for sure....I can't say anything bad about a game like tonight but MSL is starting to piss me off...

PJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:57 pm EST

He could.... Bickell could handle Simmonds and he did....

PJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:57 pm EST

Ryan (Mr. Norris) McDonagh strikes again! Two GWGs is a row!!!!!

Jerry_Garcia


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:57 pm EST

Had to run for the train with my daughter a little over 3 min left and she asks what could happen - said rangers won no issues there but could be some scrums or fights - so it happened and no surprise fartnell is a piece of shit and ask Simmonds the spot picker how Brian bickels knuckles taste- he is scum too they all are - best part is all the flyers shitheads that poached stubhub got smoked every way tonight

jim9k26


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:53 pm EST

I wonder if McIlrath could handle Simmonds

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:51 pm EST

Diaz looking pretty good too.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:50 pm EST

BTW, MSL played tonight as small as he looks out there physically. He was as invisible as BR. Trust that's not the way he's played previously....yes?

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:48 pm EST

Geesh, I hate the Flyers so much. SO MUCH! Always have and probably always will. That shit at the end bothers me so much - makes me ponder the wonders of a bus-crash....

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:48 pm EST

McD talking to Pierre in postgame so I guess he is ok....I hate that team as much as ever along with their meathead head coach....

PJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:47 pm EST

Solid win .. the hat goes to .. the 4th line.. Moore, Boyle and Dorsett set the tone and lead the way..... Hank was Hank

sjw


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:47 pm EST

Simmonds slashes MCD glove off! then purposely slashes his bare hand. POS. Hartnell cheap shots 2 Rangers. Classy.

puckyou


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:45 pm EST

That prick Simmonds tried to injure McD with that slash...The kind of thing that needs to be cracked down on....Hartnell is his usual shithead self...Glad he was beat up pretty good tonight...

PJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:44 pm EST

Great win! Hope Mcd's hand is OK from simmons slash at the end.

NYStranger


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:44 pm EST

final count on hits, 29-22 us

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:43 pm EST

Nash, Richards and St. Louis probably feel a bit awkward after the game since they didn't put up a single point.

TradeStar28


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:41 pm EST

total domination

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:40 pm EST

You can't beat us... F u flyers...

stevielegs


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:36 pm EST

Sorry to see Hank lose the shutout, but he could've had that one.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:34 pm EST

I wish they'd show dancing larry in the game feeds

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:33 pm EST

NBC guys are wrong(shocker). This is the Flyers third penalty, not their second.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:26 pm EST

Per a Montreal fan on the HF boards.... "Higgins for Gomez straight up was a loss. Trading McDonagh was the ultimate un-lubricated anal attack of all time."

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:19 pm EST

3 Moore

stevielegs


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:19 pm EST

The 4th Line comin thru ..... WooHoo, 3 - 0 Rangers !

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:18 pm EST

WOW... Dom Moore. Expect the Flyers to get ugly from this point on.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:17 pm EST

Per the EdmontonJournal.com... The trade of Ryan McDonagh to the Rangers to get Scott Gomez came on Bob Gainey's watch when he was the GM. This should tarnish Gainey's reputation for knowing who can play in the NHL and who can't, but several sources say Pierre Gauthier's fingerprints were really all over this one. "Bob's daughter had died (swept overboard at sea while working on a training ship) before this and he was letting Pierre (his confidant) do a lot of the work. Pierre didn't like McDonagh for some reason. Saw him play in the world juniors and didn't like him. The scouts loved McDonagh, though. When he was traded, they couldn't believe it," said a source close to the scene.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:14 pm EST

#FARTSMELL

TradeStar28


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:07 pm EST

Love that call :)

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:00 pm EST

Mess.... I don't get it :)

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:54 pm EST

Faceoffs are just about tied, but the Rangers have won a few late in the last period in important situations..... ice cream break, later,

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:52 pm EST

Always have to think up synonyms for 'rhetoric' on this board to avoid confusion

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:51 pm EST

We're leading Philly in hits, 25-15 for those of you who ascribe to the soft smurfs belief

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:48 pm EST

Great period....Still need the next one....Keep pushing and jump on Flyer D....Big third period...LGR

PJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:48 pm EST

Excellent 20 minutes for the Rangers... Hank is zoned in, a couple of big rebounds but the team defense (Hospo) is covering for them... Plenty of praise to be spread around..... LET'S GO RANGERS ! (THANK YOU BOB GAINEY!) :->)

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:40 pm EST

Boyle hit the net......

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:38 pm EST

Mason is no chump

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:19 pm EST

Every time MCD scores, makes a great defensive play..just say THANK YOU BOB GAINEY!

DOUBLEN


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:19 pm EST

Mf they're chicken shit too

stevielegs


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:18 pm EST

Mac truck

stevielegs


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:16 pm EST

beauty goal

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:16 pm EST

McCaptain ! Yeah Baby !

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:16 pm EST

NHL TAKE NOTICE.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:14 pm EST

Sorry, outside of my realm ......

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:05 pm EST

Mf do you know what those white specks on chicken shit are?

stevielegs


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:52 pm EST

Rangers looked good that period. Best St. Louis has looked since he joined the team. What the heck was McD thinking with that pass in front of his own net? The King looks great!

JFC31


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:51 pm EST

Good 20 minutes by our Boys in Blue... Hank is zoned in.. I thought JT Miller had a real solid 1st outside the penalty... L.G.R.

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:50 pm EST

Wow...Stay out of the box....Need to get the forecheck going better in second....MSL looks better in this game and needs to score....Nash needs to pretend he is in Columbus....

PJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:46 pm EST

Chicken wing

stevielegs


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:33 pm EST

Rhet: Nash is on which wing? lol

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:27 pm EST

Nice pass by Boiler.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:26 pm EST

NO MICHELETTI, YEAH BABY ! LETS GO RANGERS ! RF4L, PASS THE KOOLAID ;-)

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:25 pm EST

Door upset

stevielegs


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:24 pm EST

DEREK DORSETT!!!!!!!

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:21 pm EST

We need to get to rebounds that big.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:20 pm EST

PP RANGERS, THIS IS THE TIME TO SET THE TONE

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:11 pm EST

Just got in from work, they can now start the game...... We need a "crushing game from Brian Boyle in addition to those mentioned....LETS GO RANGERS!

mf


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:03 pm EST

VtRanger..... I hear ya, we need Nash, Poo and Miller to step up the physicality. We can't just rely on the D and the fourth line for it. This is a must win for us, with the Flyers having 2 in hand. Let's Go Rangers!

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 6:54 pm EST

Already seeing too many flyers fans at the garden tonight need to drown them out and drive that good karma again this evening!!

jim9k26


Wed Mar 26 2014 6:39 pm EST

legs....Carcillo has the flu...Doubt he would dress if he didn't though....

PJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 6:24 pm EST

the way the cryers are talking, carcillo should be in over miller......and so should falk over diaz......pete and repeat......

stevielegs


Wed Mar 26 2014 5:41 pm EST

PJ -I hear you but we are dressing that high scoring bad ass MSL.....How many goals has he scored since he came to the Rangers?......Z E R O,,,,,another high price spoiled whinner,,,,trade me! trade me! and now we got him,AND zero RESULTS,,,,,,think the Canadians will take him?.....MSL is a B U S T!!!

thedugster


Wed Mar 26 2014 4:24 pm EST

Wish we were dressing McPhee and Kocur tonight....Hell even Larry Melnyk...

PJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 4:16 pm EST

Sounds like from time table, description of initial uncertainty about break, uncertainty over surgery or not, Kreider has broken some metacarpals a la MZA last month. He shouldn't be out long, and Hartford is just like 2.5 hours by mass transit, even shorter by private jet.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 4:02 pm EST

Seems odd that Miller hadn't arrived yet....They had to know right after the game Monday that Kreider wouldn't play....Look for the Flyers to come real hard on our D....Will also run into Hank at every chance....Simmonds will be a problem for sure....Get a lead and Flyers will eventually panic....

PJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 3:58 pm EST

Rhet: That lineup is certainly lacking in the toughness department. Of course, the one night we really need Carcillo, he's out. Unfortunately, I think Dorsett is going to take a beating tonight from some much bigger opponents.

VtRanger


Wed Mar 26 2014 3:52 pm EST

After reading AV's comments, the lines could also be a game time decision. I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps the Zuc line together and puts Miller on the Richards line instead.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 3:50 pm EST

Surprised to see AV move Pouliot off the Brassard-Zucc line.....

Ranger47


Wed Mar 26 2014 3:49 pm EST

Thanks, Rhet!

Ranger47


Wed Mar 26 2014 3:42 pm EST

Ranger47..... The lines are as follows: ....Rick Nash-Derek Stepan-Marty St. Louis.... Mats Zuccarello-Derick Brassard-JT Miller.... Carl Hagelin-Brad Richards-Benoit Pouliot.... Brian Boyle-Dominic Moore-Derek Dorsett ....John Moore skated today for the first time since his injury, but will not play. Ryan Haggerty also skated in Miller's place as Miller hadn't arrived yet.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 3:36 pm EST

Not to get ahead of ourselves, but a win tonight would go a long way to assuring atop 3 conference PO spot, while a loss would make us VERY vulnerable to dropping to a wild card spot or worse. Go Rangers - BIG game tonight!

Ranger47


Wed Mar 26 2014 3:33 pm EST

Anyone know who was at the afternoon skate and what the line combos were?

Ranger47


Wed Mar 26 2014 3:05 pm EST

Mess you are correct!! Dicsipline is the key. At some point they will try to goon it up.And create CHAOS.We need to stay away from that and concetrate on the two points!!

rangerlou


Wed Mar 26 2014 2:48 pm EST

rangerlou: agreed. If were in the box, it had better be coincidental, and the best way to draw penalties from these guys is to skate circles around them. Also, Simmonds, Hartnell, Luke Schenn have thin skin. Easy goads

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 2:47 pm EST

RF4L.... I 'm not sure why it would be directed to me, I've said nothing about Tortorella.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 2:42 pm EST

We need to outskate Philly. Draw penalties. Stay out of the Box. And SPEED SPPEED SPEED!!!!!

rangerlou


Wed Mar 26 2014 2:33 pm EST

rhet: That 'check the archives' post wasn't aimed at you....

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 2:16 pm EST

Mess....Let me assure you that I am very aware that this is a what have you done for me lately world....nobody should get a lifetime pass....not Sather with his 4 or Muckler with his 1 at Edmonton.....However,over the past 34 years I believe approximately 21 coaches have managed to coach a team to the Cup....Therefore....not an insignificant feat.....On the other hand....it may have left him with the idea he could replicate his success with his one trick pony system rather than adapting to the team on the bench....

archie5


Wed Mar 26 2014 1:59 pm EST

Oh- no more players who cant play anymore re: Brashear, Rupp, Asham, Hamrlik, Scott

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 1:48 pm EST

Despite how people characterize my opinion about Torts, my dislike of him was earned slowly over time and through specific decisions. He refused to utilize valuable players and drove some of those players out of town. He turned the team into a three-line, two-pair team that didn't know what a PP was and was always predictable, boring, dead in the third period. AV has changed all of that, though I have disagreed with him on his decisions with Pyatt, Kreider, Miller, MDZ, Stralman, Diaz, Falk, McIlrath. It is a balanced team now, with four lines of scoring threats and an energetic team in the third period. No bench drama at all, it seems. No more too-many-men penalties every game. No more maintenance days for McD and Girardi, Staal. No more scapegoating or throwing players under the bus. We no longer have to convince people to sign here over their better judgement. AV wasn't my pick. I wanted Dave Lewis, the assistant in Carolina right now. I wanted Lindy Ruff for awhile. I think Sather got it right.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 1:24 pm EST

I have to agree with archie that Torts did some good things and got some good play especially going to the ECF, but he was such a dick that people can only stand him for so long. If you read Carp's blog, he said that Torts wasn't anywhere like that when he was an assistant with the Rangers back around 2000. Maybe being a coach went to his head.

RJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 1:06 pm EST

I say: run Mason and Giroux at every opportunity. They are a very different team without those two. Let Simmonds and Hartnell take penalties.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 1:05 pm EST

Wild-well said. MSL-at his size-his health-is remarkable. That said-he's off to the worst start. Here's a guy that played for the same team and PP for like 14 years-in the top 3, playing with many familiar players( VL, Stamkos). Now with various fwds, different lines, trying to find chemistry. He seems to be passing too much, but that's natural, as he doesn't want to come off like a puck hog I'm sure. Hopefully, AV and others will make him comfortable-but the only way that can truly happen is by scoring. Shoot the puck MSL!

puckyou


Wed Mar 26 2014 12:58 pm EST

Zip: AV: Haggerty will not play tonight. Miller will.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 12:57 pm EST

I will take AVs offensive style (warts and all) over Torts style which made the boards the primary recipient of EVERY pass. Much better brand of hockey to watch and with a few tweaks to personnel could be a winning philosophy. My .02

DCIGolfer


Wed Mar 26 2014 12:55 pm EST

Zip: MSL/Stepan/Nash, Miller with Brassard. I guess that means: Miller/Brassard/MZA, Hagelin/Richards/Pouliot, Boyle/Moore/Dorsett. Carcillo ill too now.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 12:28 pm EST

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=447402 I guess if its this likely that we face Philadelphia in the first round, we should be looking to put the hurt on their key players tonight, and expect that they will look to do the same

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 12:20 pm EST

archie- I think crediting Tortorella for his one cup would be akin for giving Keenan a lifetime pass for his one cup, or Sather for his five. As for JD, I wholeheartedly agree. ////// WILD- totally agree.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 12:15 pm EST

Interesting debate....no question that Tortorella raised the team's level of play.....he just happens to have one of those personalities that wear people out over a period of time.....He also seems to have speeded up that process exponentially in Vancouver....It would be interesting to ask Gillis if he wanted a do-over...However....he did win a Cup.....and that certainly adds to any coach's resume.....On one hand he did indeed help develop some players.....but....I personally find Vigneault's type of offensive hockey more fun to watch.....Tortorella's system looked more like Devil's light.....As for St.Louis......too much for too old....as for Sather....I would much prefer J. Davidson.....give him President and GM titles.....alas.....not happening....as long as the brilliant and hardworking Dolan sits on top of the Garden....

archie5


Wed Mar 26 2014 12:13 pm EST

In regard to the price for MSL...with out Cally he would have cost 3 first rounders, or 2 firsts and a good prospect. As it is he cost a 1st and a 2nd and a soon to be UFA. MSL is not a rental, and Cally put Sather in a position to have zero for him since no team will pay his demands. As for his age...there is a good chance that both MSL and Cally retire the same time. Cally is a few injuries away from not being able to get back on the ice. MSL is still waiting for those injuries. The guy has missed 36 games since 2001...36!! 26 were for a broken leg...so in all those seasons he has missed 10 games outside one injury. Cally has missed over 60 since 2003. MSL is not hockey 38, he is like hockey 34-35, Cally, or better yet, Iginla...he is 2 years YOUNGER than MLS...I would not believe that if I didnt look he is 36 but he is like hockey 40. Jagr is a MSL type, he is 42 but like a hockey 35....some guys can go on and on for a long time. MSL looks to be one of those guys who will play past 40 and be a good player past 40. If he does play 3 or 4 more years and is effective for 3-4 more years he will be worth the picks. If not, we will look back and say he cost too much. As for overpaying...yes sather has done that...Clowe is a GREAT example. At the time I said 2 picks was too much, and one should have done it HOWEVER I thought Clowe was the type of guy the Rangers needed (and still need BTW) but I said he would only be worth it if the Rangers went deep or won the cup and re-signed for a decent deal. Sather has made a lot of bad moves, and more good ones than most people want to give him credit for (IMHO he only has a part in all of them) but IMHO MSL will turn out to be a very good help for the team and will be an asset for the next few years.

Wildcard


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:54 am EST

RF4L.... I would've been okay if the trade was Callahan straight up for MSL or even just Callahan and the 2nd rounder. We were bidding against ourselves after all, Sather should've called Yzerman's bluff. If I didn't know any better, I'd say Dolan had a hand in this deal. It felt to me a lot like the Knicks and the Melo trade.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:49 am EST

RF4L... I never implied anything of the sort ....MF... Because I know you'll ask, Nash will be playing the left side of the MSL-Stepan-Nash line :)

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:42 am EST

yeah I remember your fire Tortorella posts. Months after the wall was in that direction, a lot of 'Torts has to go, but he's still a great coach that was done great things for us', 'its a shame Sather couldn't get him the parts to succeed', 'will do great for another team'.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:39 am EST

we've been over Tortorella. I know I won't pierce your illusion, but Vancouver is proving out a lot of the so-called unfounded criticisms of Torts. None of your so-called positives can be proven with anything other than conjecture. THE POINT IS, you drank the kool aid. You came on here and crowed when the Rangers struggled, when the Canucks peaked, when the Rangers struggled again. Now when were doing ok, you come on here and call everyone that is happy about it 'kool aid drinkers'. I would have zero problem with that, except for the fact that it is so blatantly hypocritical.

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:37 am EST

RJ: A 38 year old, obviously, shortens the window and puts a greater sense of urgency on management to orchestrate further win now moves. The first one was the Nash deal, which other than the first round pick, seemed reasonable because Nash (or so many of us thought) would bring something desperately needed to the Rangers and at 28, still had several productive years ahead of him. The next one was downright stupid - renting an injury prone, totally ineffective Ryan Clowe for 12 regular season and 2 PO games. Now this one. Desperate moves by a desperate GM who desperately wants to win now because 1) he's old 2)hasn't won a thing in nearly 25 years and 2) is mediocre at his job (which is the biggest reason point 2).

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:32 am EST

And check the archives before you accuse me of posts I did not make. I was quite vocal on here about my desire to see him fired late last year. In fact, when so many were citing the lemming like Ranger reporters and predicting it wouldn't happen, I kept saying it might. I admit that was more wishful thinking than anything else, but I wanted him gone. It was more due to the inept offense, embarrassing PP and inexplicable vanished grit that made me feel that way - those 3 were enough to indicate to me the players were no longer listening and he is too stubborn to adjust.

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:30 am EST

Re: the 3-4 year "window"......Keeping your draft picks could lengthen that window if they turn out can't they? How much will picking up a 38-year old player lengthen that window?

RJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:28 am EST

Rhet: Not once have I criticized MSL as a player. The only negative thing I've said about him is his age and size, but neither are criticisms aimed at him. Instead, they are aimed at Sather for pursuing a player with those limitations (and more importantly, mortgaging more of the future - a future already compromised - to get him).

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:26 am EST

Listen I admit I defended Tortorella and still believe he brought some positives during his tenure, including 1) overseeing the development of a slew of players (too numerous to list, but surely you are cognizant of the names) 2) bringing a gritty, in your face, take no shit mentality to club (for the first time since Keenan ran away to St Louis) 3) orchestrating the best season the team has experienced since Messier and Gretzky took an aging, soon to decline club to the final 4. Did he wear out his welcome? Well, duh, of course he did. Is his act tiresome? Well duh, of course it is. Did he deserve to be canned? Well, duh, of course he did. In other words, I'm trying to look at his tenure with an open mind. I honestly thing it's ridiculous to believe that those 3 things happened despite him. It's all a matter of opinion, of course, so poo-poo all you want. What I do find interesting however, is that so many of the Tortorella haters simply cannot seem to let go - time and time again, his name is brought up here, referencing the dastardly deeds he did and continues to do. It's rather amusing.

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:24 am EST

Alain Vigneault said this morning that the Rangers are still deciding on whether Chris Kreider will require surgery on his hand. (Katie Strang)

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:17 am EST

Hey if you want 'blind hatred' for Tortorella, just visit Vancouver! But you can't deny that you were criticizing all the haters, giving him the benefit of the doubt each time a player spoke out about him, giving him credit for every player that at least did ok during or after him, but blaming those who didn't. Well, were better off this season than we were at this point last season. Much better off. and aren't we higher in the standings than any new coach is? Didn't Sather win that one? Isn't Mike Gillis going to be fired this offseason for hiring your kool aid boy? So whats the matter, you don't like the way the kool aid tastes with AV?

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:16 am EST

jratelle: Oh, I understand and agree with most of what you're saying. I stopped subscribing to NHL center ice, but still watch the Rangers whenever they are on TV locally here (like tonight - against the Flyers). Doesn't mean, however, that I cantnot disagree with player moves and that because I'm not downing the koolaid I'm wrong. For sure, there's a brigade of posters in here who get angry and sometimes personal if one 1) doesn't agree with their viewpoint and 2) is critical of the Rangers. I chalk that up to the same mentality that has prevented 2 GMs (spread over 20+ years) from doing the right thing and rebuilding properly: You cannot rebuild in NY. The fanbase and therefore, owner(s), won't tolerate it. As result we have nearly 19 straight years of mediocrity, save for 2 final 4 finishes, marred by several non-PO year finishes, run-away payrolls and endless laugh-stock comments and jokes. Yes, I remain a fan (loyalty can indeed be a curse - lol) but that doesn't mean I am prepared to embrace what I perceive to be stupid moves.

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 11:10 am EST

Nope and nope. Methinks your blind hatred of the man is once again, warping your ability to think straight.

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:58 am EST

um, didn't you drink/are still drinking Tortorella's kool aid?

Messier11


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:40 am EST

RF4L: I'm just chiming in on your comment regarding how shocked you are that so many Ranger fans drink the Kool-Aid. I normally don't get in the middle of these "disagreements" (ahem). I tend to read further past them. Regarding your incredulous feelings towards the "Kool-Aid drinkers", I really don't know why you are so shocked. Anyone who can claim to be a diehard Ranger fan since the time of the Islanders cup victories or prior has to have remained such a fan due to an excessive amount of hope or optimism. I will give myself as an example. I have been following the team since 1974 when I was 9. 40 years of following this team, as much as it has beaten me down over the years, still has not squashed some feelings of optimism or hope. A lot of us always want to hope for the best because, if we don't, what else is there that can keep us hanging on as diehard fans? The only other explanation is that some are gluttons for punishment, and that may be true for some. I also was not in favor of losing draft choices in the MSL deal. I believe (but can never be 100% sure) that we will regret it. However, that doesn't deter me from getting in front of that TV when the puck drops, or counting down the hours until faceoff, or DVRing the game when I can't watch it live and not wanting to know the score, or even going to MSG in person for a game. And when I do engage in any of the aforementioned methods of viewing the game, I do it with such a great amount of hope for great things to happen, that I almost forget bad moves by Sather that may be hampering such positive results. Now, logic will tell that after 40 years of this kind of torture, I should just give up following this team, but something still keeps me hanging on. Just my point...there is no reason to be shocked by such optimism if you know long-time Ranger fans. Anyway, now beat the fucking Flygirls tonight!!

jratelle19


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:40 am EST

RF4L: I think Sather has been a epic failure other than a few moves (some big, most smaller like i think Diez for a 5th round pick looks like a really good move early could still blow up though) and I cant wait till the old man retires! But i will not ignore the positive things just because I dont like him. The rangers sit as 1 of only 2 teams to have a playoff series win 2 years in a row. This team with hank, McD, Staal, Giradi has a good D and is very good in net. You add in some good young talent on the front end, and other good talent on the front end (even though so many rip Nash he is going to get close to 30g in a bad season) and with a little tweak here and there and this team has a very good chance at the SCF and a very good chance to win. There are only 1 or 2 teams I would say REALLY have a better chance...

Wildcard


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:38 am EST

RF4L... I liked getting St. Louis, but hated giving up the draft picks and was vocal about it. I also liked getting Clowe, but hated the picks we gave up for him. I can have it both ways :)

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:35 am EST

John Moore, MSL and Stepan are all skating this morning. Stepan and MSL were skating with RIck Nash (this is the line I've wanted to see since the trade so it will probably suck:) ...RF4L... I agree that we gave up too much for both players, but let's not judge the St. Louis trade until we see how he plays in the postseason.

Rhet0ric


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:32 am EST

Wild: I've said on here numerous times when critical of Sather's high risk/high reward, trade for now moves that if they work, I'd gladly admit I'm wrong. Just I've been highly supportive of Neil Smith's moves made the season they won the cup (specifically, the trading of budding NHLers Weight and Amonte). Are you prepared to do the same? Or will you continue to blindly support everything Sather does, regardless of the results. Cite your final 4 example all you want - most of what got them there (Tortorella, Gaborik, and the grinding, gritty style and players) are now long gone. I do get why you cite it though - it's clearly the highlight of Sather's otherwise very mediocre (at best) tenure in NY. Mediocre to me, anyways. You, I suspect, view it quite differently. To each his/her own!

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:22 am EST

Trade: LOL...not cranky at all (at least no more than usual, regardless of how the Leafs might be faring). That said, what does bother me is the realization that Neil Smith was correct - one cannot rebuild in New York. It's beyond evident to me now and this wall is for me living proof. I was the only person on here (and still am I think) critical of the MSL deal. The koolaid drinking that goes on amongst Ranger fans is for me, mind-boggling.

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 10:09 am EST

I think RF4L is just cranky because the Leafs are falling apart and his wife is giving him shit for it.....So he takes it out on us : (

TradeStar28


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:55 am EST

RF4L: tell me again...how many teams are going deep every year in the playoffs? The Pens? Bruins? Hawks? All the teams that have won and are looked to for how to build have had early exists leading up to their cup. You seem to be under the delusion that they put their team together and won the cup and had no set backs or anything. The Rangers went to the ECF the season before last for crying out loud...currently they sit more comfortably in a playoff spot than all but 2 may by 3 teams in the east. Big game tonight if they win and keep in that 2nd spot you will still call them a bubble team. I think that if MSL lead all playoff scorers and was the playoff MVP and lead the Rangers to back to back cups you would still cry about a couple picks.

Wildcard


Wed Mar 26 2014 9:27 am EST

Wild: I expect nothing else from you on any criticism of any kind directed towards the Rangers. Believe it or not, I concur with your basic point, but where we disagree is what you perceive as the window. You state they are in a 3 to 4 window and no doubt, you mean a cup win window. I wholeheartedly disagree. They are indeed in a window and have been in that window for several years. It's a PO bubble and quick PO exit window. As previously, we can agree to disagree. I maintain the MSL was dumb, just like I called the Clowe trade as dumb and virtually every other deadline deal Sather has orchestrated over the past several years has been dumb.

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:53 am EST

RF4L: This trade may bear NOTHING for the bolts....the players they pick may bust...stop acting like you KNOW if this trade is any good. You are talking about this trade like it has had any time to settle out. You brought up an OTT trade they made expecting to be making a deep run...well, they were stupid, they had one good season and thought it was going to last forever, the Rangers have been a playoff team year after year, they have recently gone to the ECF, thinking you can go get a player to help go deep is not a stretch. The Rangers are in a 4-5 year window, maybe 3-4 year window. Those draft picks will be worth ZERO in the next 2-3 years at LEAST, most likely they will be worth ZERO for 4-5 years. Winning now is MORE important than having some kids playing in the CHL and NCAA.

Wildcard


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:48 am EST

RJ: Ahh, if only we didn't have these extremes. IMO, the McDonagh deal was done with Sather not shooting for a cup; the MSL deal was done with him having cup visions dancing in his head. It's not a coincidence IMO, that one trade is bearing fruit and will continue to bear fruit for years to come and the other one is, to date, accomplishing nothing. What I am confident about however, is the latter trade will bear fruit for the Bolts for years to come. It's a dumb trade, pure and simple.

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 8:26 am EST

RF4L - The Rangers could have kept their draft choices, kept Callahan and used the cap saving from him leaving in free agency to trade or get a guy in free agency. Instead they got a 38-year old player in a scoring slump. I think Sather tries too hard to be "the man" instead of being smart. Oh wait, he traded for McDonagh. Never mind. He's a genius.

RJ


Wed Mar 26 2014 7:12 am EST

So Ottawa trades Jacob Silverberg, a prospect and their first rounder in this year's draft for Bobby Ryan last summer, thinking they were a lock for a PO spot this season and maybe a good run in said POs. Fast-forward to now and Anaheim must be quietly quite pleased seeing as they currently are sitting with the 7th overall pick in June. Yet another example of the risk of trading away first round picks, especially when that pick is a full season (or more) away. Sather's an idiot....

RF4L


Wed Mar 26 2014 6:11 am EST

I hope you're right....I have no problem chillin the Beer.....

MelvilleFred


Wed Mar 26 2014 4:06 am EST

Mfred just for tonight. Call the hotline..... Chill the beer....

stevielegs


Wed Mar 26 2014 3:51 am EST

Stievielegs....Falk is our answer to "toughness"? May as well go with guys that can play. I'd rather see Allen

MelvilleFred


Tue Mar 25 2014 11:42 pm EST

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1734711

stevielegs


Tue Mar 25 2014 11:36 pm EST

Will veenyo put msl or hagelin in kid k's spot? Put zbp line back together and give Richie Dorsett with whoever he doesn't put with Nash ? I have no problem with Diaz but I would put falk in against the broad st bs artists... That's how he can harden their softness ... Against that pos opponent ... Have to get under the skin of the Cryers by goading them to take penalties and get the pp back on track....and destroy their goalies.... Yes I predict the Cryers will be forced to play 2 goalies.... You read it hear first....I called the psychic hotline .... Dialed 1-800- psycho ...

stevielegs


Tue Mar 25 2014 11:13 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2014/03/25/rangers-mcdonagh-girardi-bring-back-end-to-front/

mf


Tue Mar 25 2014 10:09 pm EST

They change the format too often to keep track

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 10:03 pm EST

Mess- I'm not sure you are aware how the playoff format works. We can not play Detroit. The second and third place teams in each division play each other. The division winner play the wild cards.

MC


Tue Mar 25 2014 9:35 pm EST

NHL Rivals - Flyers-Rangers on NBCS right now....

PJ


Tue Mar 25 2014 9:34 pm EST

sorry, Detroit with just one game in hand. Like this bracket as currently composed. Like the idea of Boston having to get through Columbus. Would like to see Philly drop and play against Pittsburgh for the first round. Id like for us to get up to third and face off against Detroit with home advantage. That would leave TB and Montreal.

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 9:29 pm EST

Columbus rejoins the playoff bracket, joining Detroit with 80 points. Washington and Toronto on the outside, also with 80 points. Columbus with a game in hand, Detroit with two.

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 9:19 pm EST

Hat trick for Backes, three points apiece for Steen, Oshie.

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 9:11 pm EST

Jackets beat Wings....Laughs lose and Kings beat Caps in SO...Four teams tied with 80 points.....

PJ


Tue Mar 25 2014 9:00 pm EST

That Steen/Covo deal for Stempniak wasn't orchestrated by Burke. It happened before he came on board, engineered by the man who's famous for one of the most lopsided deals in NHL history (Doug Gilmour, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville, Jamie Macoun and Rick Wamsleywere for Gary Leeman, Craig Berube, Alexander Godynyuk, Michel Petit, and Jeff Reese), Cliff Fletcher.

RF4L


Tue Mar 25 2014 8:37 pm EST

Well that was short lived....Game tied...Bad call when Kings had breakaway on empty net and weren't awarded the goal....Officiating blows...

PJ


Tue Mar 25 2014 8:35 pm EST

Good job by Kings...Leading Caps late 4-3.....

PJ


Tue Mar 25 2014 8:14 pm EST

Buffalo holds Montreal off the board through two period!

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 8:12 pm EST

Just reviewing a little history for curiosity's sake. How did Burke manage to turn not just Steen and Colaiacovo (both on ice tonight against Toronto, Steen with a goal and assist) but also their exchange, Stempniak, into nothing just a few seasons later?

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:29 pm EST

Buffalo hanging with Montreal, 0-0 after 1

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:11 pm EST

Well this is shitty news the Rangers just got a lot smaller and lost one of our top scorers.

tlats


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:11 pm EST

STL 2 - TOR 1

mf


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:02 pm EST

all the hits in the world won't matter unless we can score two or three times against Philly

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:01 pm EST

Link to Philthy's web-site: Mid way down on the left is "Battle at MSG" showing interviews with Giroux, Simonds, Voracek, and their coach.. Expect a physical forcheck from the opening by these dirtbags... Also, Downey is out with an upper body injury.... http://flyers.nhl.com/

mf


Tue Mar 25 2014 6:59 pm EST

For the Cryers I want carcillo and Dorsett in . Let jt wait .

stevielegs


Tue Mar 25 2014 6:46 pm EST

Washington up by 2, Columbus up by 1. St. Louis and Toronto tied.

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 6:11 pm EST

Great opportunity for JT Miller- he's earned it

puckyou


Tue Mar 25 2014 5:56 pm EST

Wow, that sucks about Kreider. I have a feeling they'll play Miller instead of Haggerty. At least Miller has some experience. Now, they really need MSL to step up and start scoring. I doubt if Miller is going to do it.

RJ


Tue Mar 25 2014 5:47 pm EST

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=447349

Bob


Tue Mar 25 2014 5:47 pm EST

Not great, but Miller or Haggerty in now, hopefully. Kreider had cooled a little.

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 5:32 pm EST

Wow that really sucks...Did it happen during game last night?....Noticed he didn't play much late in third...He never does play in OT....

PJ


Tue Mar 25 2014 5:31 pm EST

Stevielegs....that really sucks. Guess now we know why he wasn't in the 3rd or OT.

MelvilleFred


Tue Mar 25 2014 5:21 pm EST

Bob McKenzie &#10004; @TSNBobMcKenzie Chris Kreider expected to be out of NYR lineup for extended period: at least a month, maybe much longer. Hand injury, possibly broken bone.

stevielegs


Tue Mar 25 2014 3:59 pm EST

MF: Blue Heeler mix. Smart dog.......too smart really.

Vic


Tue Mar 25 2014 3:38 pm EST

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=711031&cmpid=nhl-twt

stevielegs


Tue Mar 25 2014 3:08 pm EST

mf a kick boxer.....

stevielegs


Tue Mar 25 2014 3:02 pm EST

VIC: What kind of dog? This is very important..

mf


Tue Mar 25 2014 2:34 pm EST

Wildcard--That was my point,,,,ZERO,you have to ask yourself,,,,another Slacker????????????????????

thedugster


Tue Mar 25 2014 1:33 pm EST

thedugster: He has 29 on the season, but none with the Rangers yet.

Wildcard


Tue Mar 25 2014 1:07 pm EST

How many goals does MSL have?.......

thedugster


Tue Mar 25 2014 12:36 pm EST

WILDCARD: My dog usually leaves the room when I watch games too. I don't yell often but I'm sure she senses the tension and frustration in me. She doesn't wander far, though as I often have wine and cheese when watching games. She loves cheese even more then bacon.

Vic


Tue Mar 25 2014 12:13 pm EST

...But adding to that...I was yelling at the TV as well....must have sounded very angry about it too because all my dogs ran out of the room and one hid under the bed. Whoops.

Wildcard


Tue Mar 25 2014 12:12 pm EST

Vic: I think last night MSL (and Stepan) was playing in a fog, and may have thought he didn't have the strength to get the puck on net hard enough to score....or just plain had his brain move slower that the world around him and didn't see the situation for what it was. He should NOT have been in the game, nor Stepan for that matter, and AV said as much that he made a mistake.

Wildcard


Tue Mar 25 2014 11:51 am EST

When I saw MSL in the slot with the puck on his stick in perfect shooting position I started to jump up in anticipation of the goal he was going to score. I yelled at the TV when he passed up that shot. I've never seen him pass up a shot like that. He is almost automatic from that spot. Either he has lost his confidence or he is so tight he is over-thinking everything. Whatever it is the Rangers need him to get on a roll going in to the playoffs or they are going nowhere. They need him to pick up the PP so that it hurts whoever they play to take a penalty. Right now the Rangers PP is no threat. That needs to change. Reunite the MZA-BRASSARD-POULIOT line at even strength and on the PP. Put MSL with RICHARDS and HAGS at even strength and put MSL on the PP out with the STEPAN line for the other PP unit.

Vic


Tue Mar 25 2014 11:50 am EST

Great tongue-in-cheek post on the TSN boards..."Why can't the Habs ever find a guy like McDonagh?"

RF73


Tue Mar 25 2014 11:44 am EST

I don't care if he's going through a divorce or not, the little shit needs to score.....on the ice, that is. :)

RJ


Tue Mar 25 2014 11:21 am EST

Only Boston and Pittsburgh have more regulation wins than us in the East.

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 11:18 am EST

Washington and Columbus play tonight. A win from either means that the Blues could knock Toronto out of the playoffs bracket.

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 11:07 am EST

Bizarre game last night. Horrible start but they came back strong and didn't wilt after the 3rd Coyote goal. Fourth line was solid last night. MSL and STEPAN should not have been dressed. That is on the coach but it is also on those two guys for putting their desire to play over what was best for the team. Great game by McSSIAH. HANK made a lot of saves early to keep the game within reach. They need to keep winning. There can be no games off. They have to show up ready to compete for 60+ minutes and they need to play as physical as possible.

Vic


Tue Mar 25 2014 10:54 am EST

Mess- We also have as many ROWs as Chicago, and sits at 8th overall in ROW overall. That is somewhat decent too. With the roster we have I think we should be top 6-8 overall in the league. AV has had some adjustments to do with this team, so I am not putting it all on him, but we shouldn't be a bordeline PO team with this roster IMO.

Ola


Tue Mar 25 2014 9:52 am EST

http://deadspin.com/graphic-the-history-of-nhl-home-jerseys-1550437234

stevielegs


Tue Mar 25 2014 8:09 am EST

rj msl has been in a goal scoring slump for about 25 games.....probably truth in mfred saying he's getting divorced....the nyr are finding ways to win. hopefully he's contributing to that new mindset....he needs his head straightened to get his confidence back on scoring goals.....

stevielegs


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:53 am EST

Dave Maloney thinks very highly of mcd. wish they would use him more along with beeron, and tell dickaletti thanks go back to the fishstinks or you are fired......he belongs on nbc with the rest of crew over there.....

stevielegs


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:44 am EST

stevie: Who cares how much PP he got last year. Or the year before. Or in college? What I am happy about (and yeah, the Rangers and my happiness rarely converge!) is 1) how he's developing and 2) how he's performing now. Someone posted on here last night about his potential future Norris trophy possibilities. Not out of the question, that's for sure, if he continues to trend up.

RF4L


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:42 am EST

If McDonagh doesn't get any mentions for the Norris then people aren't paying attention. He should at least get a couple of votes. I don't think it was the system that held him back. Remember, everybody thought that Torts held back Del Zotto and that AV's system would make him a star. What happened with that? McDonagh is just maturing into a well rounded defenseman..........It's time for MSL to start earning his paycheck. The Rangers gave up a lot for him and he hasn't done much. Don't give me the crap that he's getting used to his new teammates. That's a convenient excuse. It's not like they are playing him on the 4th line. Now, get out there and score some goals you little shit. lol.

RJ


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:35 am EST

rf how much time did mcd get on the pp last year? and what did the former coach half admit to? ......misery and negativism love company......guess sather didn't suck on that positive trade.....stay calm and enjoy the ride.......don't get your undies in an uproar.....could inflame hemorrhoids....jk......

stevielegs


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:14 am EST

Mike Cammalleri has 15 points and 7 goals in his last 8 games and was being shopped by Burke at the deadline. He's also a proven PO producer. Rumours are he was available for a 2nd rounder. Martin St Louis has 2 points in his past 10 games (since coming to NY). Gee, can we do a do-over?

RF4L


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:10 am EST

BTW, Brady Skeji is being compared to McDonagh. Wouldn't that be nice if it's true?

RF4L


Tue Mar 25 2014 7:08 am EST

At the risk of angering the always very vocal Tortorella haters on this board, I find it a tad silly to say that McDonagh's development was retarded by the ex-coach. It's a backhanded insult to McDonagh because it suggests he should be further along in his development than where he is now. I mean, geesh. What more do you want from this kid? He'a only 24, it's only his 4th year, and only the 2nd time in those 4 years he's played this many NHL games. The kid is evolving into a top 10 defenseman in the league. He's a horse defensively and now adding offense to his game, displaying the traits that got him picked 12th overall in his draft year. IMO, he's a classic example of how you develop a player and kudos go to everyone involved in that, including Sather and his management team, Tortorella and now AV. Just enjoy watching a homegrown Ranger blossom boys and girls! Geeesh and I get criticized in here for being negative!

RF4L


Tue Mar 25 2014 5:36 am EST

PJ- Yeah, I went a little WTF when I saw Step and MSLs ice time. If you are that bad, you shouldn't dress. I played a game with the flu and high fever once, I only played the first period but I felt like sheit for a couple of weeks after it. A bit scary almost.

Ola


Tue Mar 25 2014 1:33 am EST

with Philadelphias loss tonight, the Rangers have the longest current wins streak, with four

Messier11


Tue Mar 25 2014 1:31 am EST

Rangers the second most winning team in the league when as a visitor, behind only St. Louis who has the same number of road wins but two fewer losses.

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 11:10 pm EST

Mf he got benched with the two flu boys.... Supposedly to cur down to 3 lines since those two were out if gas except for farting ...among other things unrelated to hockey ...at least kid k can score on hank without even trying...:

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 11:02 pm EST

Rhet the guy who sold mcd short was talkerella... He kept him off his powerhouse pp...and die safe system ...

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 10:20 pm EST

With the points put up by Montreal and TB tonight, we need just two unmet wins to take third in the East.

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 10:15 pm EST

Stevie.... I disagree and think you're selling McDonagh short. IMO, McDonagh was going to be McDonagh no matter the coach or system. MCD get's my vote for the 'C.'

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 24 2014 10:13 pm EST

Well I think this proves I can't watch games live! I turn the channel and they start to come back! LOL. The Rangers not only need to dress Boyle, Carcillo, and Dorset against Philthy. They should bring up McI, Bickle and Haley as well. Win or loose you make a statement. LGR

NYStranger


Mon Mar 24 2014 10:04 pm EST

I think you've got to dress Boyle against Philth-a-delphia... jmo ...... OAN: Kreider skated approx 10.4 minutes tonight.... did he he get hurt?

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:58 pm EST

Mf it's a hard choice if all are healthy Wednesday .. But Boyle seems to be a little low on his offensive game.... Real good on the pk and defense... He just doesn't look right when the camera goes on him... He doesn't look like he's having much fun....some might say msl but he's contributing sans goals.... Harder to sit him ... Veenyo had his chance tonight and didn't....I want a war and a win on Wednesday with the stupid 8 pm start....probably NBC screw as usual.... And nobody picked up in duguay talking about the hard plastic pads that gave Moore a concussion... No reason not to pad the outside of them...

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:47 pm EST

Veenyo's system has helped mcd grow and flourish ... Compared to smotherella... He was like Pinocchio in that geico commercial as a motivational speaker...

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:45 pm EST

stevieLegs: respectfully disagree.... this is playoff hockey & we need Boyle to step up throughout the end of this season & into the PO's... He played a good physical game tonight... We need him to follow through every game, one at a time.... Let Aveenyo Carcillo & Dorsett if need be.."or".. If Stepan, MSL, or anyone else sits out Wednesday, maybe AV dresses Boyle, Moore, Carcillo, & Dorsett....

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:38 pm EST

just checked an seen that both of them had the flu tonight , that explains why both of them seen limited action tonight .

caperanger


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:36 pm EST

AV says he made a mistake playing Step and MSL in this game....Also says 4th line our best in this game....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:34 pm EST

caperanger...St. Louis has the flu as does Stepan....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:31 pm EST

Carcillo and Dorsett should be in Wednesday ... Guess maybe veenyo will give Boyle a night off... Sure hope so....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:31 pm EST

anyone know where St. Louis was in the last of the third period and OT ?

caperanger


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:28 pm EST

Richards also mentions ceremony when explaining slow start...

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:19 pm EST

And as Maloney just confirmed....."why did they have the ceremony formHenrick tonight?!"

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:19 pm EST

D. Moore and Dorsett really played well....If the Rangers fourth line can continue to play this well it could really make a difference down the stretch and into the playoffs....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:17 pm EST

Next victims Philthy! Joe Dickerette you suck!

Jerry_Garcia


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:16 pm EST

mf......to me there is nothing more real than the "whammy" in Sports......he hasn't fumbled in 300 carries......we all know what happens next!!!!' reverse whammy posts are crucial :>)

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:15 pm EST

Yotes sat on a lead and it cost them....Didn't push when they had a 4-3 PP....Could have ended it....Of course they didn't know Smith would get hurt....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:14 pm EST

ilya...knock it off...you are giving me a headache...

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:13 pm EST

MFred: Thank G-d for those "Reverse Whammy's." ..... What a crock of VooDoo.

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:12 pm EST

Diaz will certainly take chances....So so in the defensive zone but he battles....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:11 pm EST

The thing bout the Flyers they give up a lot of shots and chances against which is a us for us we average over 35 shots per game !!

ilya


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:11 pm EST

Plus for us

ilya


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:10 pm EST

Plus for us

ilya


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:09 pm EST

Nice way to thank hank and make his night complete... He deserves it....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:08 pm EST

The thing bout the Flyers they give up a lot of shots and chances against which is a us for us we average over 35 shots per game !!

ilya


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:07 pm EST

Diaz somewhat quiet but ok.

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:06 pm EST

AWESOME WIN! ...... Plenty of praise to go around.... Anyone here keep a watchful eye on Diaz? Would appreciate some opinions about him...

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:06 pm EST

"Well ........blow me down!"......Arghh arghh arghh arghh

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:05 pm EST

Definitely got to come out with a better effort on Wednesday vs Cryers , It's gonna be much tougher opponent than tonight !!!

ilya


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:59 pm EST

Now dickLetti will put his reverse bs post game ... Guy looks like popeye ....wish he would just talk under his breath like he did.....what a jerk and the nose agrees with almost everything between them... Dumb and dumber..:

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:58 pm EST

Ryan McDonaugh, next Ranger's Captain ?

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:58 pm EST

G-Man should get the C next year

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:57 pm EST

Loved that Shane Doan got a nice front row ticket to McD's game winner as he watched McD sink the five foot putt

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:55 pm EST

Wow: Ryan (Mr. Norris) McDonagh strikes again! Fucken Wow!

Jerry_Garcia


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:55 pm EST

One day we'll be calling #27 "McNorris"....

JFC31


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:54 pm EST

Reverse whammy posts the difference tonight.......

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:54 pm EST

A great 2 points from some who thought none....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:54 pm EST

WOW!

LetsGoRangers


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:54 pm EST

PJ: Good lookin out. ;->

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:54 pm EST

I'm so happy I could just s**t!!!!!

jratelle19


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:54 pm EST

What a strange game! Crappy 1st, great 2nd, boring 3rd until the last 5 minutes. Brassard should have been given #1 star for breaking Smith's knee! Great win!!

JFC31


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:53 pm EST

I never had a doubt...lol....That mf is so damn negative....Fred and I picked up the team....Huge win....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:51 pm EST

I have not posted in a while but just feel compelled to say oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

tlats


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:51 pm EST

G-MAN and MAC-TRUCK..our new offensive dynamic duo.

DOUBLEN


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:51 pm EST

jim9k26: check this out.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JPML5SFm0A

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:49 pm EST

YES!!!! My Ryan McDonagh OYO sports toy should be here any day!!! Order one while supplies last....limited edition!! http://www.oyosportstoys.com/Hockey/New-York-Rangers/New-York-Rangers-Ryan-McDonagh_1#.UzDglNzoY1A

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:49 pm EST

MickeyD!!!!!!!!!!!!

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:48 pm EST

MCSIAH !!!! RANGERS WIN !!!!!

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:48 pm EST

or McD:)

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:48 pm EST

Woo hoo

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:47 pm EST

Nice LA! Kreider to get the winner - thats if AV lets him on the ice.

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:47 pm EST

Trade he was just on a commercial I couldn't remember his name... Thanks

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:46 pm EST

Flyers down 3-2 -need to steal another point and take them out Wednesday

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:45 pm EST

Cryers lost thanks la

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:45 pm EST

Nash played so much better when he shaved his beard....Now he looks like Ricky Gervais on ice skates

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:44 pm EST

For example, Chadwick once criticized Rangers center Gene Carr, saying Carr couldn't put the puck in the ocean.Carr was later traded to the California Golden Seals and scored a goal against the Blueshirts in a game at Oakland that Chadwick was calling. Same goes for BB unfortunately!

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:44 pm EST

Hey, we walk away with at least 1 point. Kudo's to you guys for all of the positive karma... ;->

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:43 pm EST

After Nash's shot off the mask....Yotes backup goalie will be going home with an eye patch looking like a pirate

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:40 pm EST

Clutch save on Nash there -nice passing up ice..Dorsett can't buy one he's so close last few games

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:39 pm EST

Boyle couldn't hit the side of the pier from the ocean.

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:39 pm EST

Sweet Girardi Brown!

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:39 pm EST

WooHoo! Way to go Big Mac

nyfans


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:38 pm EST

The smoooothe soft hands of DAAANNNN GIRARDIIIIII, 3 UP ! Tie Game

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:38 pm EST

DG -sweet tip

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:38 pm EST

YYEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:37 pm EST

Yes

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:37 pm EST

Not only did Boyle miss the net....but the puck some how ended up out of play which sent the face off out of the zone.....Boyle was point blank

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:35 pm EST

Good Lord get a shot on goal against this guy....Boyle you have to be kidding...

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:34 pm EST

Rangers sending the whole Yotes roster back to Zona on crutches

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:32 pm EST

Way to go dickelittis put one hand over your mouth and one over your eyes...

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:31 pm EST

well that call just made it lot tougher

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:30 pm EST

Hockey was so much cooler when the backup goalie would come in.....and they would let him warm up with his team mates taking shots on him.

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:29 pm EST

terrible break there for yotes, going to be hard enough making the playoffs for them with Smith, Rangers have to take advantage though

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:27 pm EST

When Gillies broke Hospodar's face I was done with him in a Rangers sweater.....what a disgrace,.....I was bullied by the islander fans in my prime years after that shit

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:27 pm EST

ACL or MCL ? You make the call ...... either way, ouch, that sh_t hurts.....

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:22 pm EST

MF no kidding was doing the same but of course had to watch all 9+min of Beck hitting and beating on folks. Now have to see if i can find a Beck full on beating of Hospodar- hated him when he wasn't a Ranger of course.found McPhee beating the crud out of him though so it's a start..

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:18 pm EST

Big difference between Rangers and Yotes is that the Feenix is a lot more patient when they bring the puck across into the Rangers zone on the fly.....They let the play develop and seem to have multiple options....One guy breaking to the net, one guy trailing the play, and one guy parallel to the puck carrier. When the Rangers enter the Yotes zone, it's like an abortion.

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:17 pm EST

Theres been a Boyle sighting.... He's throwing the weight around this period...

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:16 pm EST

jim9k26: Was looking for a Chadwick clip, wound up with that.... Maybe it'll draw "Hospo" out of the shadowz.....

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:14 pm EST

good clip MF! loved when Beck was healthy playing like a beast so strong compared to other guys, quick hands too!

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 8:05 pm EST

I always wondered why Marc Staal doesn't have an NHL tailored made shot. The guy was playing with his brothers since he came out of the womb.....you figured he would know how to blast the puck.....Or maybe even practice in the offseason......I remember M. Staal's first year as a Ranger and Sam Rosen was going on about how Staal's agent, legendary Dman Bobby Orr, was saying that Rangers will see how Staal's offense will flourish big time. I just don't see it. We have tried to compare Staal to someone like a Rod Langway but i think Langway was a much better two way Dman back in the day than Staal is today. Don't get me wrong, I think Staal is wonderful but maybe injuries and not playing to his full potential has hampered expectations.

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:59 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2nWw2rtcZI

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:57 pm EST

kreids took the shot missed the net, fell down and still busted it back to get inside his man (didn't do that about 2wks ago and guy scores) tough break -if he had a better outlet pass he might have had a break down the edge but he had to wait for it off his skate and let the d-slide in deep, see if they can regroup and get it back

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:53 pm EST

What I meant was part of th blame goes to his attempt on the defensive play, but if the original shot was on net, we wouldn't be talking about this right now.

jratelle19


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:51 pm EST

We can blame Kreider and yes some of the blame goes to him, but what about that shot that went wide, once again, and sent the puck quickly out of the zone on that break?

jratelle19


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:49 pm EST

Kreider can't miss the net there which set that play up....Can't get down...Dominated the second....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:46 pm EST

Stepan needs some alka-seltzer.....nice goal by jesus H. kreider

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:45 pm EST

Tough break on the Kreider deflection but what the hell was Stralman doing there?

RDW


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:45 pm EST

wow spoke too soon on Kreids.. jeez.

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:42 pm EST

Shoot the puck Marty.... Mfred that will do the mambo on your head....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:39 pm EST

good second so far, need to take the lead with this momentum. 4th line has been excellent so far. great pass by Kreider playing well tonight, can't believe MSL passed that shot up earlier in the period, he does make some great passes though- needs to hear some Bill Chadwick perhaps.

jim9k26


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:38 pm EST

It's my job to put up the reverse whammy posts......

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:36 pm EST

BTW.....word on the street is that MSL is going through a divorce.....could have something to do with his head up the ass performance.

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:33 pm EST

Think this team realizes how pumped the Garden gets and how much more effective they are when they finish their checks? Especially Poo, Kreider, Dorsett, and Girardi. I'd include Boyle in that but I think his confidence is so low right now he can't even successfully hit someone. Either way, nice comback...so far

RDW


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:32 pm EST

New game Mfred ...: keep them cold....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:32 pm EST

MFRED.... Its 2 up, here come the protons!

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:31 pm EST

Brass balls!!!!

jratelle19


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:30 pm EST

BRASSAAAAAAARD!!!!

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:30 pm EST

Brass ass

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:28 pm EST

Mf.....not negative electrons but 44 years of being a Ranger fan....

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:26 pm EST

The fix is on!!

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:26 pm EST

What a negative bunch of electrons........ ;-)

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:25 pm EST

Keep it going....Kreider needs a goal....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:22 pm EST

Richie rich from HAGGY ....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:21 pm EST

Face offs a horror show as usuall!!!!

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:21 pm EST

Give the 4 th line 1s line minutes....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:19 pm EST

This loss makes Wednesdays game huge especially with that road trip coming up........we could easily miss the playoffs!!!!!!

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:19 pm EST

Dickaletti has to be fired... He's a bs artist.:::patronizing jerk .::doesn't know when to stfu....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:16 pm EST

Pj no doubt.....at first I thought it was Steven McDonald night another game they always screw up.....and Trautwig won't shut up about the speed!!!!!!!!

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:10 pm EST

Fred...Was thinking that as the ceremony was going on....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:08 pm EST

Now we have to hear about how fast the Coyotes are....If that Keebler elf we traded for would step up finally maybe we get back in this....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:07 pm EST

You can't have that ceremony before the game!!!!!!!! Total whammy!!!! They are so loosing this game......

MelvilleFred


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:56 pm EST

Just when you think this team is going to turn a corner they put out a stinker like this at home...as usual.

LetsGoRangers


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:56 pm EST

We should have had a 5-3 advantage but not only do they miss the call but make one up on Pouliot right after.....This game sucks....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:54 pm EST

Put Giacomin in net for old time's sake

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:53 pm EST

Brassard shoulda handed the ref his teeth as proof

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:50 pm EST

Halpern!! whoops

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:49 pm EST

This team needs to practice tomorrow even if they come back and win tonight.... Start with the pp....:

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:48 pm EST

Brutal PP....what's new?

jratelle19


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:45 pm EST

Special teams and the flu bug hurting us tonight

rngrsans


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:41 pm EST

Kreider's hitting everything that moves tonight. If he keeps this up, he may learn that he has what it takes to turn the outcome of a game....

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:39 pm EST

LB article from 4:12 pm today on B.B. who states that this is "his" time of the year.. Also mentions that he's playing for a contract.... http://nypost.com/2014/03/24/brian-boyles-goals-make-playoffs-get-new-contract/

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:39 pm EST

Fourth line has shown up but that is it so far....MSL is starting to piss me off....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:37 pm EST

Ranges gonna get nasty here since they hung Henrik out to dry in front of his parents.....I think they come back

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:34 pm EST

Game isn't over but will be soon if Rangers don't wake up....No excuse for a start like this no matter what Michelletti says....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:32 pm EST

Game over?

NYStranger


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:31 pm EST

Well looks like we have our old Rangers back....WTF are Klein and Staal doing there?.....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:25 pm EST

Nice save Skank, NOT.. Got to stop those.... And the Cherri on this sundae is listening to Shitaletti instead of Balogna.....

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:13 pm EST

Zip: carcillo scratched for Dorsett. MSL and Step in lineup. Starters: Hags/Richards/Pouliot

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:08 pm EST

Douche Chills....

NYStranger


Mon Mar 24 2014 5:52 pm EST

Zip: Dorset, Haggerty, MSL, Step all in warmups. Miller was not recalled.

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 5:11 pm EST

Vic unfortunately we all have to wait until the nose or somebody again says the waiting is over, or Sather has retired......I'll take the whatever comes sooner.....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 4:41 pm EST

STEVIE: I can't wait that long. Here is a picture of SATHER many decades in the future. He is laughing at how he is still running the Rangers long after all of us are dead. Oh, and they still haven't won another cup and haven't drafted any higher then 8th overall where he drafted JESSIMAN's grandson......another BUST. (http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02540/Jiroemon-Kimura_2540756b.jpg)

Vic


Mon Mar 24 2014 4:09 pm EST

RF4L then you can't expect your sather sucks to succeed at tanking and number 1 picks......you will have to wait until he's gone......

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 4:08 pm EST

PJ: Not meaning to make any comparison but I played some of my best games when I felt like crap. I have found that many others experienced similar things. Some people have suggested you play better when feeling ill because you just go out and play without overthinking the game. From my experience I would agree.

Vic


Mon Mar 24 2014 3:50 pm EST

Watch MSL score a couple when he is sick....Glad they are both playing....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 3:45 pm EST

MSL & Step both playing

puckyou


Mon Mar 24 2014 3:40 pm EST

If MSL, Step and Dorsett are all out, and Miller was the only call-up, either Haggerty is playing, or AV is dressing 7 D and only icing three lines. IMO, Haggerty is playing tonight.

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 3:33 pm EST

KIS...Actually Nash would have to protect Boyle....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 3:31 pm EST

LOU: No, HAGGERTY has not played yet. I don't know if the Rangers ever intended to have him dress this year. He made it a requirement of his signing that he be with the NHL team he signed with for the remainder of this year thus burning a year of his entry level contract. The Rangers had no problem with that and IMHO they made the correct decision. If he turns into a player he gets a new contract a year earlier. If not no loss. Now, there may not be a better chance to get him in a game this year then tonight. Does AV have the stones to do it? I really don't see it hurting the team if he plays 6 to 10 minutes and gets some PP time. From the video I saw he has an excellent shot (and is a right handed shot). I would love to see him take the 3 shots from the slot that STEPAN took on the PP against NJ.

Vic


Mon Mar 24 2014 3:27 pm EST

Haggerty has not played. Just been practicing with team since signing. ///// I wouldn't mind seeing Miller with those wings, but I'd be surprised if AV goes that way

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 2:57 pm EST

Any thoughts on Miller centering Nash & Kreider, or, Nash & Hagelin? The thought being to disrupt as few lines as possible..

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 2:28 pm EST

Excuse my ignorance.But has Haggerty played for the Rangers yet??

rangerlou


Mon Mar 24 2014 2:28 pm EST

Excuse my ignorance.But has Haggerty played for the Rangers yet??

rangerlou


Mon Mar 24 2014 2:17 pm EST

If Zucc is so comfortable playing all 3 forward positions maybe put him as first line center between Kreider and Nash. If not put boyle up there and tell him to just look to protect Nash and clear space. I would put haggerty in line up tonight to see what he is

KIS


Mon Mar 24 2014 1:42 pm EST

I'd make that lineup totally mine by playing Staal/Girardi, McD/Klein, Falk/Diaz, scratching Stralman

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 1:34 pm EST

Mess...Don't want anyone out but that lineup would be fun to watch....

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 1:18 pm EST

I say: Hagelin/Richards/Nash, Pouliot/Brassard/MZA, Kreider/Miller/Haggerty, Boyle/Moore/Carcillo. McD/Girardi, Staal/Diaz, Stralman/Klein

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 1:10 pm EST

Well if they go out there tonight and crap the bed at least they have a legitimate excuse....Literally.........

PJ


Mon Mar 24 2014 1:03 pm EST

StevieLegs: Lace up your skates and show them how its done. :->

mf


Mon Mar 24 2014 12:55 pm EST

Dorsett in practice, but still feeling symptoms

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 12:55 pm EST

If Step, MSL and Dorsett are out with "flu", then I guess its likely that we see not only Miller, but Haggerty also

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 12:51 pm EST

Steve Zipay &#10004; @stevezipay Lundqvist, who will be honored in pregame ceremony at MSG for his breaking of Giacomin, Richter's records, said his parents will be here...

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 12:51 pm EST

SO WHO'S VEENYO GOING TO USE, DORSETT, HAGGERTY, OR MILLER?......

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 11:52 am EST

Mess: Its not really THE flu (like influenza) it's "flu" as people like to call it. Also, even with the flu shot you can still get sick...many many people do...

Wildcard


Mon Mar 24 2014 11:36 am EST

I mean, tell me all these players got their vaccines. They get paid too much to expose themselves to the risk of an easily preventable and highly contagious illness

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 11:18 am EST

Great. Flu epidemic in the locker room for the home stretch

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 11:18 am EST

DCI: I would bet we don't see Talbot until/unless there is more security in a playoff position. I mean, if they get to the point where they need to go below .500 and teams behind them need to win out, than we will probably see him some. Or if they clinch I bet we see him play the remaining games unless its more than 2 so Hank can keep sharp. I mean, they are up 2 points on the Caps...4 on Cbus, and up a couple in the wildcard race as well. If they go 2-1-1 in their next 4, and 3-3 in the last 6 for 5-4-1 that would mean Washington would have to go 5-3-2 or better to get ahead, CBus would have to go (with a game in hand) 7-3-1 or better to knock them out of the metro division race. CBus will have a tough time getting to 7 wins, and the Caps have an even harder time with their schedule. Those numbers are if the Rangers can manage just above .500. If the rangers can go 3-1 in their next 4 it could be lights out for other teams....and if they get a little help from the Flyers, beat them, and have them lose a 3 out of 5 or something (probably wont happen though) it will be even better.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 24 2014 11:12 am EST

JT Miller is being called up on an emergency basis due to MSL and Stepan having the flu(Katie Strang).

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 24 2014 11:07 am EST

Marty St. Louis and Derek Stepan have the flu and are not skating. (Steve Zipay). Their status for tonight is not clear. (Larry Brooks) Derek Dorsett had the flu on Saturday. John Moore is not skating today at the Rangers morning skate (Andrew Gross) Moore has been diagnosed with concussion symptoms.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 24 2014 10:35 am EST

MSL - Goal drought - He was also playing without Stamkos in TB. He is now trying to acclimate and you can see he is turning his stick into sawdust on each shift. I believe he will find his way and very soon start to produce. The rest of the team is playing smart disciplined hockey. A complete 180 from the the first weeks of the season when they were the Keystone Kops in their own zone. Big game tonight, as they all are. Do we see Cam Talbot the rest of the year??

DCIGolfer


Mon Mar 24 2014 10:30 am EST

MSL's goal-scoring drought as a Ranger extends back to mid-January. Prior to coming to NY, he'd scored only 2 goals in his previous 13 games. Nice.

RF4L


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:59 am EST

Messier11: Yes but the last 2 years are at 6 mil per, so his next contract will start at 6.5. Both sides better hope he lives up to 6.0 let alone 6.5.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:57 am EST

Wow, Faulk for six year at less than 5 Mill per?

Messier11


Mon Mar 24 2014 9:44 am EST

Without a doubt, tanking doesn't guarantee anything. What it does guarantee, however, is your organization will get some great assets in a relatively rapid manner. Another guarantee? Without a strong management team in place, led by one individual with vision, knowledge of the game and its players and courage, you won't be successful. Now put the latter on an organization that bottoms out and your team will develop significantly and likely, relatively quickly. Yes, the Oilers are examples of poor management screwing up high picks, but the Hawks and Pens are examples of the opposite.

RF4L


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:46 am EST

I wonder how many of the other 29 teams have had similar incompetence from the refs and Toronto . Probably it has been all of them which has helped their opponent in those games. There seems to be conclusive evidence of incompetence, and of the nhl playing favoritism . But not conspiracy on blown calls hiding behinf inconclusive evidence to overturn the genius ref and his intent. You can wack away at a puck in front and have incidental contact with the goalie but not if your skating in and the puck goes over the line before you touch the goalie who purposely comes out to cut down the angle and or create incidental contact. And distinct kicking motion can be indistinct making the concept extinct ....:one thing for sure the intent was to score a goal...:put one ref off the ice and one on....: the problem will be a lot more penalties called every game....: but there will be more goals counted if the 2 refs get to watch the video with Toronto and give their input on the decision after seeing all the replays... They are standing there doing nothing but waiting....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 24 2014 7:03 am EST

Trade that list is a sad testimony to the WWE tactics pulled by this non-professional league who try and manipulate outcomes more and more each year. As someone pointed out in the comments section below the article- you have to hope it is a conspiracy because gross incompetence would probably be even worse. This team is starting to play a better game again .. I hope they can keep it up.

NYStranger


Mon Mar 24 2014 6:08 am EST

Wild...good point.....just couldn't be bothered trying to figure it all out and knew someone on the board would LOL! As many others have said really liked the Diaz kid.....looks like a keeper.....maybe. Tough game tonight and Wednesday.....need them both!! I could see Hank getting a breather tonight.

MelvilleFred


Sun Mar 23 2014 11:17 pm EST

stevie....the crazy thing is that the Oilers rarely part with any of these players until it is too late......Meanwhile , here is a good article about how the Rangers got fugged 13 times this year with disallowed goals and allowed goals by the opponent..... http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2014/3/21/5535286/the-rangers-disallowed-goals-this-season

TradeStar28


Sun Mar 23 2014 11:07 pm EST

Kassian with four assists tonight

Messier11


Sun Mar 23 2014 10:04 pm EST

Trade looks like proof that tanking and number one picks doesn't always work... Throw the fishstinks in there too....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 23 2014 9:52 pm EST

Clarkson shoulda went to Edmonton....He woulda been able to hide behind the eight #1 picks they have that are underachieving every year

TradeStar28


Sun Mar 23 2014 9:39 pm EST

PJ: Clarkson had a stretch of about 5 games where he seemed to coming into his own (i.e. a second line winger) but then fell off inexplicably at that. Last night against Montreal, he had 8 minutes of icetime and was a -2. There's one stupid contract Sather managed to avoid (not sure if Sather was in on things, but Clarkson is TO boy and wanted to play there - he turned down more $$ from Edmonton to sign with the Leafs).

RF4L


Sun Mar 23 2014 9:38 pm EST

https://www.facebook.com/BoycottNYJetsAndMichaelVick

thedugster


Sun Mar 23 2014 9:37 pm EST

Reminds me of a Tragically Hip song: 38 years old and never scored a goal...(for the Rangers)...

RF4L


Sun Mar 23 2014 9:35 pm EST

Although it helped us it was still very hard to want the Devils to win tonight...They were still whining about the officiating from last night....They are a joke....We played a huge game the night before and these losers can only manage 11 shots through the first two periods at home and they bitch about the officiating?......The Leafs are sinking like a rock...Need Bernier back now are they won't make it....Noticed Clarkson doesn't even play much...

PJ


Sun Mar 23 2014 9:13 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2014/03/23/stepan-rangers-raising-the-ante/.... Read the bottom on msl....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 23 2014 9:13 pm EST

Not a bad day in the standings...Jackets, Leafs lose and Wild beat Red Wings in OT....Red Wings were up 2-0 in this game but Wild did blow a third period lead....Jackets and Red Wings play Tuesday which is good for us....

PJ


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:55 pm EST

I may get the Rick Nash toy....but i wanna see how his season finishes up.....Otherwise i would probably punt him off my deck and into the woods if he only played on the perimeter

TradeStar28


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:53 pm EST

Ok, I caved in....I got the Ryan McDonagh toy for the NY Rangers pending Stanley cup run 2014... http://www.oyosportstoys.com/Hockey/New-York-Rangers ...... "They brought their F$%#'in toys!"

TradeStar28


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:44 pm EST

Uncountable but that will change....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:41 pm EST

How many goals does MSL have as a Ranger????????????????

thedugster


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:24 pm EST

Pj unfortunately many nyr fans have more to say when they lose....until they win the cup again or at least get to the finals, it will continue....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:22 pm EST

Buffalo's first and second string goalies both out tonight suddenly with "lower body injuries". Buffalo doesn't even play Matt Hackett, goes for their fourth-string goalie. Looks like someone is tanking for first worst. AND the Canucks are up against Buffalo's fourth best goalie by a single goal.

Messier11


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:16 pm EST

Must be more to the delzero story....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 23 2014 7:36 pm EST

Where does the KLEIN-Del Zotto swap rank in the trades that SATHER has made? Benched again!

Higgy21


Sun Mar 23 2014 7:24 pm EST

Oh, and we should sign Diaz before he has any more performances like last night

Messier11


Sun Mar 23 2014 7:15 pm EST

The hockey press all swoon over Columbus but they missed last year and are on the way out again now even in the sucky East. I don't get the love.

Nick


Sun Mar 23 2014 5:18 pm EST

OLA: Actually, IMHO I don't think ERIC STAAL has been himself since he concussed his brother. He went in the tank right after that happened I don't think he has ever looked like the player he was before then since. Maybe that was all just coincidence. Maybe I just never noticed his game was off. It just seems like those two things were tied together. On the game against the Devils....it was a solid defensive win. They played a very disciplined game against a desperate team. I've given HANK and STEPAN a lot shit here but I will say that both have played better lately and have been a big factor in the team's wins. STEPAN needs to produce from a points perspective because he doesn't bring much else other then responsible D otherwise. DIAZ looked great to me. He was very decisive with the puck on the PP. That kind of puck movement made the Ranges PP so much better in this game. He looked solid and responsible in his own end as well. Right now I would keep him in the lineup over MOORE. Also want to give a shout out to POULIOT again. He played a solid game and took the body more then any other Ranger. He laid two or three guys out on hard hits. I thought for sure he was going to get called when he drilled CARTER. With this small lineup they need him playing big like this every night. I also wish they would go back to the MZA-BRASSARD-POULIOT line but AV clearly doesn't agree.

Vic


Sun Mar 23 2014 5:11 pm EST

Didn't count on the Isles coming through...The parts I watched they were playing well....Jackets looked very tight to me....Kind of quiet here considering the Rangers success this week....A 3 game road win streak with must win games involved....Very impressive and unexpected by me anyway...

PJ


Sun Mar 23 2014 3:38 pm EST

Thanks, Isles for beating the BJs! Now time to root tonight for a Devils upset of Toronto and a Wild win over Detroit........ I just hope the Rangers aren't looking past Phoenix tomorrow night at the Flyers on Wednesday; we need those 2 points against the Coyotes.

Ranger47


Sun Mar 23 2014 3:13 pm EST

Of course, I am rooting for the Blues in that matchup. The Penguins, however, are well out of our reach in the standings, so I don't care how many more games they win or lose. I think we could get to 3rd in the East with some hard work and luck, displacing Tampa, Montreal, and Philadelphia. That's about as much as I can hope for with a straight face.

Messier11


Sun Mar 23 2014 3:10 pm EST

The IcePuppies do us a favor and blank the BJ's 2 zip, and for Mess11: The Blues blank the Penguinista's 1 zip...... Its all about the defense!

mf


Sun Mar 23 2014 1:15 pm EST

good morning: Mess11: Need St.Louis to have the Penguinistas singing the Blues this afternoon and reclaim the 1st overall position........ Maybe the Islanders can eke out a win against the BJ's..... The Isles have some hitters on their team, and unlike the Rangers, will probably hit back a lot sooner and harder.. Even if Columbus wins, hopefully they walk away bruised..... So LB is writing about the STAALS.... any credits given "The Wall" in the bibliography? Thought not...... LB, any time you find yourself with a little "writers cramp" come on by for some up to date interesting content to help fulfill your contract and readership.. :-).... Next up: Pho-Nix, always thought that when two vowels go walking, the first one does the talking, but not in this case.... So, Rangers at home against Fee-Nicks, Feenix are 7-3 over the last 10, and coming off a loos to Boston......

mf


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:39 am EST

Ola: Regarding Carolina: I don't know how they stumbled into a cup win (well I sorta know - Cam Ward stood on his head and they clutched and grabbed and hooked and held everything that moved). but that team has sucked for years and Jim Rutherford, ala Glen Sather, has been the architect of that mess thru the entire period. And take away that very surprising cup year, his reign is worse than Sather's. It's obvious, he's got the owner, just like Sather does with the rich man's son, in his back pocket.

RF4L


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:26 am EST

As an UFA, maybe. Sather, instead, will probably give up picks in 2016 and 17 to get him. Perpetuate the mediocrity is that incompetent idiot's MO.

RF4L


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:23 am EST

RF4L: as a UFA once the cap goes up and e.Staal takes less to play. Sure why not. Lol

Wildcard


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:17 am EST

Fred: you wrote of concern due to teams having games in hand. Well with last nights wins those teams can not pass the Rangers by winning games in hand. CBus can get the closest and tie in points but will have less wins and ROW (I think less ROW and for sure 1 win) the rest of the teams behind are further back than game in hand points would give them. Also due to the leafs loss last night the Rangers are ahead of them in the wildcard standings (of course they are in the metro top 3 already so that doesn't matter). Still a long way to go, but as long as they don't rattle off 2 or 3 losses in a row they should easily make the playoffs.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 23 2014 8:08 am EST

So now Eric Staal should be a target of Sather, so says LB. Gawd, it'll probably happen, too because you cannot rebuild in NY. Geeesh....

RF4L


Sun Mar 23 2014 7:36 am EST

Just speaking my mind, but a few thoughts on Marc going to Carolina. 1. You grow very close to your teammates over a pretty short period of time. A brother is a brother, sure, but you have your best friends on your team. Why is it a given that he will choose to spend his time with his brothers instead of friends? You know, I don't quite follow the supposed clear logic. 2. Carolina is Carolina, ie its not NYC. Sure, its probably a great place to raise children if you have millions, maybe NY is not optimal. But its still de facto not the most luring place in the league. 3. Have anyone seen Carolina the last few years? ERIC Staal in particular. Stats is stats, we all know how little the mean. Honestly, I would love to hear others opinion on this, but when I've seen Eric play lately he has just not been a very valuble player. And it shows on Carolinas record. I mean, he is good on the PP (he is definitely still a very good PP player, no ifs or buts about it). He is sometimes good down low. He is very mediocre in all other areas, and don't seem that motivated. 4. Jordan Staal is Jordan Staal. Not a dominating top 2 line player. Lets say they give Marc Staal 6m over 6 years. They basically have Eric's 8.25m + Jordan's 6m + Marc's 6m (20.25m), plus Semin's 7m + Skinner's 5.75m, totaling 34m tied up in the Staal brothers and Semin. IS THAT EVEN A PO TEAM? They are EXTREMELY FAR from being a PO team with Jordan and Eric... Do they make the PO's once in the five - six years the have invested in the bro's?

Ola


Sun Mar 23 2014 1:48 am EST

hey, anyone know what happened to that other UFA, Krushelnyski's kid?

Messier11


Sun Mar 23 2014 1:39 am EST

interesting take on Carolina's house from Brooks. He declines to mention that they will easily pare 10 mill from their books this season, just from ending retained salary transactions, and UFAs they don't need to keep. That, with the rising cap, and they wouldn't even need to move Ward or Liles, despite the fact that they may want to. STILL, must give Marc some food for thought, and maybe Tolchinsky a little bit of signer's remorse.

Messier11


Sun Mar 23 2014 12:44 am EST

Say it ain't so... Time to hire guy from mind games....http://nypost.com/2014/03/22/despite-reports-sather-says-no-retirement-on-tap/

stevielegs


Sat Mar 22 2014 11:48 pm EST

Only four teams in the league have allowed fewer goals than us and three of those are in the West (none are Vancouver). Still, our offense is tenth in the East, I won't even bother ranking it among the league.

Messier11


Sat Mar 22 2014 11:36 pm EST

Our goals against is down to 2.43 p/g ........ http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20132014&sort=standingsGoalsAgainst&type=LEA

mf


Sat Mar 22 2014 11:31 pm EST

chased Fasth, Glencross with a hat trick, Stajan with a goal and three assists, Camalleri with 3 points, and the game isn't over yet

Messier11


Sat Mar 22 2014 11:22 pm EST

WTH is going on with Calgary vs Edmonton tonight??

Messier11


Sat Mar 22 2014 10:42 pm EST

Stepan really needs to show us something in the Playoffs this season and next. Then again, you can say that about a lot of guys on this team. Also... move over Waldo, where the F#%K is MSL?

Rhet0ric


Sat Mar 22 2014 10:36 pm EST

NN... Before last season he was progressing in that department. but he peaked at 46% last year and has regressed a bit this season. Whomever he was working with his first two seasons needs to be brought back to help him. He needs to start putting up solid numbers next season if he wants to make the big bucks on his next contract.

Rhet0ric


Sat Mar 22 2014 10:33 pm EST

Rhet...I bag on Stepan for sure but he came up big for the Rangers this weekend....He stood out in two very physical games...Good for him and the Rangers...

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 10:10 pm EST

RHET: I didn't say I didn't like Stepan, just wish he could improve the faceoffs; guess it will always be his achilles heel. What would Lundqvist fetch, some sticks.

DOUBLEN


Sat Mar 22 2014 10:04 pm EST

Maybe we could trade him for a bag of used pucks.

Rhet0ric


Sat Mar 22 2014 10:04 pm EST

Maybe we could trade him for a bag of used pucks.

Rhet0ric


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:58 pm EST

Watching Diaz made me wonder ...why has he not been playing all along over j. Moore. Dynamic passing and good positioning.

cnparda


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:53 pm EST

Stepan has taken the 8th most Face off's (1339) and has won 45.4%; if you make 1000 as the cut off that would be 45 centers, only 2 are worse than him .

DOUBLEN


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:52 pm EST

I don't know what I was thinking posting anything positive about Stepan. I forgot that he sucks and can't do anything right.

Rhet0ric


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:45 pm EST

Nn does he have to work his ass off? ... This team needs busted ass luck...: poor msl completely snake bit on scoring a goal.... Might be wanted for strangling his stick ....

stevielegs


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:37 pm EST

Stepan really needs to go to FACE-OFF School during the off-season.

DOUBLEN


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:32 pm EST

Great win tonight, but damn this team is infuriating. You never know which team will show up from night to night. I want to see more of Diaz the rest of the way. It would be nice if he ended up being the final nail in the Ranger coffin for Anton Stralman. BTW, not to be lost in the win, but the hottest NY Ranger since the All-Star break is Derek Stepan. The team's current points and assists leader has 15 points in his last 13 games.

Rhet0ric


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:23 pm EST

Diaz looks pretty good on first blush. 16:00

Messier11


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:21 pm EST

Fatso diving and whining all the way till the end....The old bastard can still play though as he kept them in this one....DeBoer is such a douche....Carrying on after the most obvious of penalties....Also saying Kreider ran Fatso on the Nash goal....Good luck in the future Pete as your best player is over 40.....

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:20 pm EST

5 home 5 road....so who got the hat?....

stevielegs


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:04 pm EST

have questions about the pushback of the team but 4 tough road points in 2 games. Nice job....Diaz looked good on the PP

jnyr


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:59 pm EST

10 games in next 21 days...20 points available....

stevielegs


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:44 pm EST

Nothing like put a nail for their trip to hell where they belong....devils .... Crushed in the pebble....burn ....

stevielegs


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:42 pm EST

Great game, great win. Congrats to the "KING" for the big 50 ! As a true blue Ranger fan for almost 50 years, this is quite the feat to pass EDDIE, EDDIE, EDDIE ! Nash is playing lights out. And I like Diaz, a lot. Geez, he looked like PK Suban out there at times. No need to have Girardi out there on the PP any more.Great skater,very good passer and a good shot.

Newfie_Ranger


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:41 pm EST

Concerned that several of the teams behind us have games in hand.

MelvilleFred


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:41 pm EST

Say what you want about Nash not being the scorer (despite the game winner) that we want him to be, but the man takes a beating. He gets slashed, hacked, tripped, slew footed just about every shift. Nice game. I thought they tried to sit on the lead a little to soon, but they weathered the storm. Two more points for the Rangers and none for the Devils. That's always a good thing.

RJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:40 pm EST

That's 2 really solid games for Nash in a row....just what we need.

MelvilleFred


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:39 pm EST

I would believe Hank gets the hat...

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:39 pm EST

Not sure what we were doing at the end there but great win...Congrats Hank and a huge 4 points this weekend...Well derserved also as both teams we played were desperate...I believe we just ended the Devils playoff hopes....Have we found something in Diaz?.......I like what I saw tonight...

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:39 pm EST

Great team effort tonight. StL played a good game too bad he had that empty better blocked. ThisnDiaz kid looked good.....made a difference......congrats to Hank for getting the all time blanks record. I'm glad that after 15 hours in the air today from Hong Kong I didn't sit here for the usual.

MelvilleFred


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:38 pm EST

Who gets the hat Nash or hank?

stevielegs


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:35 pm EST

Stepan step on,,,,KING 50shutouts...

stevielegs


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:35 pm EST

GIGANTIC points. Poo played pretty hard. Zucc as usual, and a shutout for HANK against FATSO. Congrats HANK on 50 shutouts !!

nyfans


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:34 pm EST

Its a power play goal

rngrsans


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:32 pm EST

Finally Toronto doesn't screw us

rngrsans


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:20 pm EST

Nash playing well, nice dive to move the puck

nyfans


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:11 pm EST

Stressful to say the least.....

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 7:20 pm EST

New NASHER

stevielegs


Sat Mar 22 2014 7:03 pm EST

Agreed...MSL needs a big game...Let this be it....

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 7:00 pm EST

MSL should be a factor either big goal or big play whatever but he got to make things happen !!

ilya


Sat Mar 22 2014 6:57 pm EST

MSL is an excellent playmaker atrleast he was known as a playmaker with him here PP should be slam dunk shouldnt be a problem wtf is a problem

ilya


Sat Mar 22 2014 6:49 pm EST

Not a bad period but need a better forecheck....Klein does not look comfortable playing LD....He keeps turning the puck over....Jagr cherry picking all period....Need to watch him....Diaz looked pretty good to me.....

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 6:40 pm EST

Nice non call when Step was taken down.... Probably wouldn't matter anyway

rngrsans


Sat Mar 22 2014 5:41 pm EST

have played

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 5:40 pm EST

Diaz a RH D and will play left side....Never like that...Would habe played Fauk in a physical game like this....Need to light up Fatso in this one....This NY Lottery commercial gets on my nerves....

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 5:15 pm EST

Zip: Moore concussed, Diaz in. Dorsett with flu, Carcillo in. AV: maybe more changes, bc of bumps bruises. Taking that to mean Haggerty, Falk.

Messier11


Sat Mar 22 2014 4:19 pm EST

Agreed we were outhit last night but some of that is due to us having the puck more than the Blow Jobs(like that one mf).....I really don't believe we need an overhaul to be tough enough....A McI call up right now would help in a big way....Play both Dorsett and Carcillo also and the rest will get braver....

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 4:14 pm EST

Will have to win our games...No help coming from anywhere...Cryers, Red Wings both win today....

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 3:51 pm EST

And Stephan's holdout and the distractions on Hank's contract, the Olympics, and Girardi and Callahan's contracts which probably meant we missed out on some trade possibilities at the deadline while we tried to figure out what to do with our 2 key UFAs.

Ranger47


Sat Mar 22 2014 3:41 pm EST

And the injuries...the great Pyatt experiment, Hanks crack-up

Messier11


Sat Mar 22 2014 3:27 pm EST

BTW, even as constructed, this team is positioned to fare better next year. The horrendous road trip at the the start of the season, the learning of AV's system, and the fact that we are still juggling our 2nd and 3rd lines this late in the season due to the MSL acquisition means we should be better able to start well right out of the gate next year. Yes, we need to make some more changes, but this should be at least a "middle conference" position next year than a PO wannabe. JMHO

Ranger47


Sat Mar 22 2014 3:24 pm EST

I know that Hags is not a top forward, but I do not get the willingness of many on the Wall to trade him. He fits AV's system well, and his speed allows us to get the puck deep and keep it there - a key to AV's system of offensive pressure. Otherwise we'll be spending more time in our own end. Upgrading Richards spot would help a lot. The buyout cannot come too soon for me....

Ranger47


Sat Mar 22 2014 3:20 pm EST

Be nice to see Philly pummel Pittsburgh in an upset in the POs and then fold to us....

Ranger47


Sat Mar 22 2014 3:18 pm EST

We have alot of work to do in the off season, need to get bigger stronger tougher , we may need to sacrifice some speed to add some snarl , Hags Stepan maybe in play .

ilya


Sat Mar 22 2014 3:06 pm EST

And wow, is Philly on a roll or what? Hopefully, they peak before the POs roll around. What a turn-around for their pathetic start to the season...

RF4L


Sat Mar 22 2014 3:03 pm EST

mf: If the Rangers face any of the following in the POs, first round or beyond, they will get physically pummelled like last night and I don't care how well you work thru it and/or stand up for each other, over an extended period of games it will be to their detriment: Boston, Philly, Washington, Pittsburgh, Columbus and NJ. In today's game, it's beyond short-sighted to put such a physically unimposing lineup together like this and realistically expect to have a deep PO run. And I'm not even going to start listing the ridiculous lineup in the west - the Rangers aren't going that far.

RF4L


Sat Mar 22 2014 2:50 pm EST

Damn it. Even Pittsburgh gives Tampa a point. We are catching no breaks

Messier11


Sat Mar 22 2014 2:26 pm EST

mf...Agreed on Kreider as he didn't throw any big checks last night....Although he was engaged when the scrums broke out and did stick up for his teammates....Girardi still amazes me...So passive no matter what happens....Fact is he can handle himself in a fight....Klein is also disappointing as he can really go when he wants to...Not seeing it and we need him to play with more of an edge....

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 1:58 pm EST

PJ: I listened to that part of the AV interview when AV made reference to the 4th line, and that Carcillo was NOT the worst performer on the 4th... I concluded he was refering to Boyle.... Right or wrong, "1" big check from Boyle last night would have sent "the message, " hey, I'm the big dog on the ice, watch which one of my guys you're fucking with...Brian ARE YOU READING? .......... On the lopsided hits Rangers 17 - BlowJobs 42, during the MCD interview, MCD mentioned the Rangers were not gonna get sucked (pun intended) into playing their game, the Rangers where sticking to their gameplan ..... Well we absorbed plenty of punishment but still prevailed. .... Thank the Hockey G-ds that our boys finally started sticking up for themselves. We can not tolerate being abused like that, the injuries will eventually do us in..... Boyle & Kreider must step it up......

mf


Sat Mar 22 2014 1:39 pm EST

We need help from teams to beat the Flyers!!!

rngrsans


Sat Mar 22 2014 12:40 pm EST

JFC31....I was also surprised Moore was allowed back in after staggering off the ice after that hit....Then he takes another hit and he is out....Inexcusable to be honest....AV said Dorsett was in due to a so so game from that line in Ottawa although he said Carcillo was not the worst offender... Boyle and Moore kill penalties so they stay in...Well Dorsett had a real good game last night and Boyle had another crappy game....I hope both Carcillo and Dorsett play tonight and sit Boyle as he has earned the benching...We need the toughness as the Devils will try to run us out of the building....

PJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 11:50 am EST

I think it was a hooking penalty

JFC31


Sat Mar 22 2014 11:43 am EST

Time to see what we have in Diaz. In Vancouver he was playing second pair minutes (for torts, no less) which makes him more versatile today than Allen, McIlrath, Falk. He's got a good shot from the point, can play the PP. let's not forget who he's stepping in for.

Messier11


Sat Mar 22 2014 11:40 am EST

BTW - If memory serves correct, Hags got the stick in the face as it was coming up from behind and almost smacking him in the nuts en route to his face...

Ranger47


Sat Mar 22 2014 11:38 am EST

JFC31 - But they called a 2 minute penalty....was it for something other than a high stick on Hags? If so, then what you are saying makes sense...Thanks!

Ranger47


Sat Mar 22 2014 11:17 am EST

Ranger47 -- I think,that both players were falling down so when the stick hit Hags in the face, it was at what normally would be waist level.

JFC31


Sat Mar 22 2014 11:14 am EST

Great game last night. Best goaltender? Girardi! :) Thought Nash's goal should have counted and was a pansification call of interference - scorers have to be allowed to go to the net. I'm extremely mystified as to why the high stick to Hagelin's face was not a 4 minute penalty since he was bleeding; I thought that was the automatic call....Now let's get back to back wins and kill any hopes the Devils have of making the POs!

Ranger47


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:56 am EST

CONNER ALLEN is a LHS defenseman...... is he ready for the big club? ......

mf


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:55 am EST

I would rather see falk at least he will drop his gives. Don't know if Diaz is another turn the cheek player of which the nyr have too many. It's now pre playoff playoff hockey....and the Debbies are desperate ....the nyr need to be. But it better not be they spent their emotion last night letdown bs....

stevielegs


Sat Mar 22 2014 9:00 am EST

The Wall is still not working right....I posted a copy & paste from an online article and it wouldn't post to The Wall. Then when I simply paraphrased the AV quote instead of pasting it, it worked. Not sure if it's certain characters that won't post or copied stuff that won't post.

JFC31


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:57 am EST

Ok, let's try again....After the game vs. the SENS, AV said he wanted to get Diaz in the lineup, but the games now are so important and everyone in front of him is playing pretty well. I guess that means that Diaz will go tonight...unless AV thinks a pressure-packed game vs. the Devils would be too much of a baptism by fire. We'll see.

JFC31


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:52 am EST

WIld: Prospect park. POs started and no Duclair and he's saying his season may be done. Not good. Typical Rangers.

RF4L


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:48 am EST

WTF? Posted twice, Wall said, "post successful" and nothing sprays on The Wall.

JFC31


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:23 am EST

Great game to watch last night....that's the way hockey should be played. That was the kind of game that could be one we look back on and say THAT is when the Rangers figured things out, that is where the light went on, that is when Nash broke through his fear, that is where the Rangers became a team. And i think it's great that we then follow it up with a game against a rival where the Rangers can hopefully apply & reinforced the lessons they learned last night....you can't back down, you have to have your team mates back. Last night' stone was actually set by Zuccarello....Brassard got manhandled in front of the BJs net...Zucc waded in and rabbit punches were thrown. He stood up for Brassard. Then Poo stood up for Moore getting crushed by Como. Dorsett came inches from a 25 foot charge that would have wrecked Dubi. And of course, Nash stood up for himself when he was pushed one too many times. I can imagine that the reason Nash was feistier when he played for Columbus was that he was a one-man show...he was constantly the target....shut down Nash and the BJs are dead in the water. Imagine last nights game across an 82 game schedule for Nash. When he came here, he got complacent and comfortable not being the only guy the other team concentrated on. Hopefully last night woke up,the sleeping giant. As for StL, I don't think what's going on is inexplicable....he's not comfortable so he's not scoring, he's not scoring so he's getting tight, when you get tight things get even worse. It reminds me of when Jeter was going for his 3000th hit....the coolest guy, the guy who thrives under pressure, suddenly went into a slump. He insisted he was feeling no pressure, but when he got hit #3000 he said after the game, "when I said I wasn't feeling pressure, I lied". After that he went on a torrid hitting streak. I'm hoping same thing will happen with StL...he'll score a couple, he'll relax and everything will be OK.

JFC31


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:10 am EST

Nash was the man last night. Good for him. Brassard with another good game. Don't know what motivates him, but I hope he keeps it up. MSL's body turned 38 in the trip from Florida to New York. Nice trade Glen. Moore out. Who will replace him? Probably Diaz.

RJ


Sat Mar 22 2014 8:10 am EST

RF4L: where did you see that? I have seen stuff that they were hoping for game 1 (last night) or game two. Game 1 didn't happen but I didn't see anything this morning yet about the next game

Wildcard


Sat Mar 22 2014 7:44 am EST

Anthony Duclair apparently is likely not to play another game this season, despite his team being in the POs. That's a bad concussion...

RF4L


Sat Mar 22 2014 7:43 am EST

BTW, I didn't see the game but from what I've read about Nash played, that's how I saw him play more than once when he was a BJ. Of course, it's unrealistic to expect him to play that game in game out, but the pushback that he displayed in full bloom last night is what I've saw him do on and off in the little I saw when he was a BJ. There has been basically none of that as a Ranger, which is inexplicable. Then again, MSL disappearing act since coming to NY is inexplicable, too.

RF4L


Sat Mar 22 2014 7:41 am EST

Good for the Rangers but wow, out-hit something like 42 to 17? There is no way this team will survive a 7 games series if that's the style. No way. How the GM cannot see that is beyond me.

RF4L


Sat Mar 22 2014 6:01 am EST

Too bad it took this long for Nash to play back in Columbus. It seems like the bell finally went off in his head. I just hope it keeps ringing and he keeps leading and playing like he did last night. He finally looked like the guy I use to see when the NYR played Columbus. He better play the same way tonight. They need points every game they play. I'm tempted to go to the pebble. I've never been inside that cave. They better play like cavemen against the Debbie girls..... I doubt the nhl does anything on the head shot Moore took. Looks like Diaz tonight, but it should be Big Mac ..... As Dave Maloney kept saying the fights emboldened the team. They need to keep get emboldened ..... That's what Big Mac's job should be...they need to be more of a team instead of not getting involved in scrums and fights. ... Need more neanderthals with more cow bell.... Let it ring out....

stevielegs


Sat Mar 22 2014 12:44 am EST

NY Rangers ,71 down, 11 games to go..... 80 total points.....Historically (or recently) 94 total points get you into the playoffs. So 7-4 in last 11 would do the trick. Games remaining is a mixed bag: @NJD , vs PHO, vs. PHI, @CAL, @EDM, @VAN, @COL, vs. OTT, vs CAR , vs BUFF, @MON

TradeStar28


Sat Mar 22 2014 12:14 am EST

Ok. Who else besides me had POULIOT and NASH both taking fighting majors in this game in separate incidents? Seriously though, it was fun the way that game turned out but the game also showed the Rangers weakness during a playoff series. The Rangers were physically pounded all night and it resulted in MOORE being concussed and STEPAN's skirt getting wrinkled. Ok, I joke, but he went back to the bench in obvious pain. The BJ's targeted GIRARDI, McSSIAH and STAAL all night. Finally KREIDER went back at JOHANSEN at the end of the game for running McSSIAH. If this were a playoff series the Rangers D would have been worn down and out by the 3rd game. I love that POULIOT answered the bell when called and won his fight. I'm glad that NASH showed he has a pulse but I know that is a one game exception and not the rule. For those who are getting on BOYLE lets wait and see how he plays in the playoffs. If he plays the way he pretty much always has as a Ranger in the playoffs then I don't care how he plays in Columbus on the 4th line on a Friday night in March. KREIDER needs to take off his dress and start leveling people. What happened to his physical game?

Vic


Fri Mar 21 2014 10:30 pm EST

Hey guys- was at the game tonight in Columbus. This was the most inspired game I've seen them play in awhile. Playoffs are in the air!! Nash was booed constantly but this was the most fire I've seen him play with in some time although he did not score. Zucc - although he hustled all night. He seems off to me since injury. St.louis has been invisible - wtf is wrong with this guy?? Grew atmosphere - although not ne'er as many ranger fans as Raleigh( RBC Center) the atmosphere was great!!

NCRanger


Fri Mar 21 2014 9:29 pm EST

as u guys can see, Pa is fired up. If he were playing in a game of any kind he would mame somebody. saw it first hand many of times. Hahahah

KIS


Fri Mar 21 2014 9:22 pm EST

Quality win for the boys tonite. I am NOT a fan of Nash having to drop the gloves. I take no issue with those who want to see him show a pulse but his role is NOT to fight. Calvert or who-ever the puke was should have been blown up by the nearest player to the initial scrum. I believe Yorkie stated it a day or so ago, plenty of size, too soft. I still DESPISE #5; what's it gonna take for him to stand up? There is NO excuse for Big Mac not to be in this line-up. I don't care if he's skating in fuckin' sand! MSL is shell-shocked right now. Here's to hoping he figures it out. Boyle is a world-class POS. Absolutely worthless. Hags, Step, Zucc, and Brass were solid. I love this Team but don't see a PO round against Philly or the B's going well. I'll take the win though and get ready for the Fucks 2morrow nite.

pa.rangersfan


Fri Mar 21 2014 9:13 pm EST

Really fun game. I wonder if MSL is gripping his stick too tight until he nets his first. NASH sure is noticeable on the ice when he's motivated.

nyfans


Fri Mar 21 2014 9:12 pm EST

fuck putting in Diaz or Faulk. this team needs Mcilrath. especially tomorrow. good t see nash have some spunk today but his job is not to fight. His is to score. Not all guys need to score not all guys need to fight but the Rangers don't have one fighter. I think that is one of the biggest problems MSL is having right now. He doesnt have space and nobody that will stick up for him. Can you imagine if your 6'7 guy could fight. If you had a dman that could fight. If you had a cente that wasnt old and had some physical capabilities. I think Dom moore could be more effective than richards. The PP isnt as good since MSL came I think that is mainly because nobody big to stand in front of goal. Before it was either Kreider or Pouliot. both got in front of the goalie. Now nobody is there and the team hasnt scored. Again can have al the same type of player. a team needs different type players to make the whole team be good and effective.

KIS


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:58 pm EST

Nash has got to keep playing the way he did tonight....he pumped up the entire team with his emotion, he went hard to the net ( that was a goal!), he didn't take any crap from anyone. He showed he is capable of playing hard & mean...now he needs to continue it. I was surprised they even let J. Moore play after that big hit....he got up and his legs were rubber....that's a concussion.

JFC31


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:55 pm EST

And where is MSL?

NYStranger


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:54 pm EST

You would think Boyle is a scratch the way he is a non entity for most of the season.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:46 pm EST

Blue Jackets Ryan Johansen is a big young center... He played an a real physical game tonight.... Wish he was a Ranger... http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8475793#&navid=nhl-search

mf


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:43 pm EST

Game like this and where is Brian Boyle ??? Gee Wiz, if ever the big guy needs to step it up and show he's a force, this is the time.... WTF Brian ????

mf


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:38 pm EST

As it says before spray...love it if you would...

stevielegs


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:38 pm EST

What? Nash fought? LOL. He can't score these days so might as well be our enforcer

NYStranger


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:37 pm EST

PJ.... With our Luck, it's most likely a concussion.JMO, but the Nash goal should've counted.

Rhet0ric


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:36 pm EST

The ex Jackets stepped up for the Rangers.....Best win of the year....I have never seen that Rick Nash....This team continues to baffle me....Did not think they had this game in them.....

PJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:36 pm EST

Great win.........like play off hockey !...............Devils tomorrow night. Big men have to play big again.......( and the little guys even bigger !

Newfie_Ranger


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:31 pm EST

What a game!!!Rangers played great.....

PJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:30 pm EST

HAGS....empty netter seals the deal......... 3 -1 Rangers..... Good Win !

mf


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:30 pm EST

YYEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:26 pm EST

Moore was blasted into the boards and had trouble getting back to the bench...Came back and took a hard hit from Dubi and that was it for him....Maybe a concussion....

PJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:23 pm EST

Geez, I start watching the game and the Rangers score 2 quick ones. This should happen every night. What kind of hit did Moore take in the first that he didn't return?

Rhet0ric


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:17 pm EST

BRASSARD!!!!! 2-1 Rangers!!!

mf


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:00 pm EST

Way to go Step....Nice shot...Oh and Hank you need to make some saves....We need this game....

PJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:59 pm EST

YES!!

JFC31


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:59 pm EST

Way to go Stepan.....tie game

mf


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:58 pm EST

Shit!

JFC31


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:58 pm EST

The worst turnover I have ever seen....Thanks Pouiot you dumb fuck....

PJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:57 pm EST

Shut up Sam....Maloney is right! Nash needs to play with anger and passion...this game could be great for Nash if it wakes his ass up!

JFC31


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:43 pm EST

Dorsett interviewed between periods... This is basically a 4 point game because of the position in the standings... Also, Columbus is on their 2nd game of a back to back, we must wear them out this period..... It's a 20 minute game..... L.G.R...

mf


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:36 pm EST

No goal my ass! What a pole of horseshoe!t!

JFC31


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:33 pm EST

As usual we are on the wrong end of a shitty call. Rangers have to kill the penalty and then get physical

rngrsans


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:32 pm EST

Good for Nash showing some emotion..... There is a pulse.... Hallelujah

mf


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:32 pm EST

How the f is that not a goal?

Fotiu22


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:32 pm EST

Can't go to the net anymore....The NHL BLOWS....

PJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:31 pm EST

That is a game changing call....I can't believe this bullshit....

PJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:30 pm EST

They called a penalty on Nash????That was a goal...WTF

PJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:29 pm EST

Bullshit call!

rngrsans


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:21 pm EST

Gotta score on the PP

JFC31


Fri Mar 21 2014 6:36 pm EST

Stranger - It's because of the way the contracts were written. Richards contract was heavily front loaded with the last 3 years paying him only $1milion per year. Kovalchuck's contract wasn't front loaded. It was structured where the salary increased after the 3rd or 4th year (I forgot the details) before going to next to nothing in the last couple of years. At the time he left he didn't get into the big money yet so the recapture was small.

RJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 6:35 pm EST

Intense game! Great job by Poo, standing up and winning that fight! That's how it's gotta be....BJs hitting hard and we have to answer the bell

JFC31


Fri Mar 21 2014 6:22 pm EST

I have largely thought of Dorsett and Carcillo as basically synonymous, but AV obviously has a preference- when Dorsett plays, he gets an ATOI of about 3:00 more than Carcillo's when he is in and Dorsett is out

Messier11


Fri Mar 21 2014 6:22 pm EST

BJs very chippy....we'll see how we react. Zucc standing tall and pushing back....the rest of the guys have to do the same

JFC31


Fri Mar 21 2014 4:55 pm EST

NYStranger: It's only the Devils who get away scot free from it. It's because, I suspect, it was agreed to by Buttman and the governors as a clause to get who bo ught the bankrupt Devils to buy them. The NHL, after propping up Phoenix for so long, wasn't about to turn away from an owner who relatively quickly was prepared to ensure they avoided the same zaniness with NJ. No doubt Buttman appealed to the collective owners sense of fiscal logic: Circumvent this one and we have a buyer; you don't and we risk sinking millions of dollars into another franchise right after finally getting out from the first one. It was a no-brainer decision IMO, right or wrong (and really its about a sense of fair play). The double insult was scaling back the penalty they handed out for the contract in the first place (no first rounder in 2014 - now it's a 30th overall with a ball in the lottery). Mind you, I never understood the latter - if the Devils were penalized, why weren't all the other clubs (Rangers included) nailed for their cap circumventing contracts?

RF4L


Fri Mar 21 2014 4:48 pm EST

Stevie that is what I read but the question is, what is considered 'injured'? Again a rule that makes no sense.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 21 2014 4:46 pm EST

Unfortunately when you look at a players records and body of work you have to take in account of injuries and longevity. On Richards cap recapture thing...I still can't fathom why the Rangers get so screwed if he retired early or was injured but the Debbies, with Kovy, are only on the hook for something like $850,000 for the next 8 years or whatever the penalty is. Seems like we get the shit end of the stick once again.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 21 2014 4:31 pm EST

I think I read somewhere if Richards gets injured before the end of the season , he can't be bought out. Not sure about if it includes the playoffs but it probably does....anyone know if that's a fact?

stevielegs


Fri Mar 21 2014 3:24 pm EST

I agree. And that should help those who never saw Brad Park (who was second to Orr in terms of best defensemen for that era) put in perspective how good Park was....

Ranger47


Fri Mar 21 2014 2:49 pm EST

Orr's knees not only forced him to slow down early and retire way too prematurely (he played just 36 games after he turned 27 and was out of hockey at 30), but what a lot of folks may not realize is that he accomplished most of his amazing feats, when he was considered young and healthy, on one good leg. He had knee issues starting as a teenager and the work done on him was as often as not, a hatchet job due to lack of skills and techniques. It was his left knee that was the problem and it was operated on an incredible 17 times (although Bobby himself says it might be as high as 21 - they were so numerous he cannot recall anymore). Utterly amazing IMO. To ponder how much more of a force on the ice he would have been if he'd never had those knee problems and what the NHL record book would have looked like if he'd played effectively into his mid to late 30s. IMO, he is the best that ever played.

RF4L


Fri Mar 21 2014 2:15 pm EST

Growing up in the 50s, I got to see Mantle, Mays and Snider....a lot of debating at the time on who was the best player, but everyone agreed that a healthy Mantle would have been a lock as the better of the three (and possibly was even with his bad knees).

Ranger47


Fri Mar 21 2014 2:12 pm EST

One has to wonder what more Orr (and Mickey Mantle) would have accomplished had their knees not gave out....

Ranger47


Fri Mar 21 2014 2:11 pm EST

Loved Prust, but we had to let him go given the price and likelihood of wear and tear on his body leading to injuries and lost games. Methinks that Cally falls into that same category - less reckless than Prust, but the body can only take so much at his size and as he ages.

Ranger47


Fri Mar 21 2014 1:56 pm EST

Speaking of the Canadiens, they just announced that Brandon Prust will not play another regular season game this year (POs TBD), meaning he'll miss a total of 30 games this season. Last year he missed 10 of their 48 games, meaning his 2 years there, he's missed 40 of 130 games, which is roughly 1/3. That's a lot of dough for a guy who can't stay healthy....

RF4L


Fri Mar 21 2014 1:43 pm EST

RJ: That is wrong...when the trade happened, and people asked about McD the Rangers brass said they asked for him and held firm wanting him because their scouts had watched him play and wanted him. From the Habs standpoint he was a throw in because they didn't thin he would develop...but the Rangers wanted him.

Wildcard


Fri Mar 21 2014 12:03 pm EST

Didn't Mogilny get LTIRd for bad knees? I'm sure something will be wrong with Richards by the time he's 40

Messier11


Fri Mar 21 2014 11:55 am EST

Messier - you're brilliant! LTIR....I'm going to contact Jeff Galooly and Tanya Harding.

RJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 11:54 am EST

I think BR could go on LTIR ala Pronger, but it's gotta be a legitimate injury. Apparently Pronger was concussed so badly he couldn't handle daylight for months on end. Scary shit that if it were me, would make me worry about brain disease after 50....yikes.

RF4L


Fri Mar 21 2014 11:46 am EST

JFC- Brooks didn't mention that they key to that trade was Higgins and McDonagh was just a throw in. That to me is the blind squirrel principle. Why didn't he mention picking up guys like Redden, Zherdev, Kotalik, etc.

RJ


Fri Mar 21 2014 11:44 am EST

...and I forget who, but someone posted a blog on how Richards could go the way of Pronger in Philly, who is still LTIR despite ending his playing days seasons ago

Messier11


Fri Mar 21 2014 11:33 am EST

Brass is RFA. Capgeek>NHLnumbers

Messier11


Fri Mar 21 2014 11:20 am EST

I think Richards has to get bought out Rather than Nash because of some 'cap recapture' rule or something. As in, if Richie stays and retires before his deal is up in 2079 or whenever, the org gets a cap hit that's pretty high. Nash's situation is different. But don't quote me on any of this.

Nick


Fri Mar 21 2014 11:00 am EST

What a pathetic article by Larry Brooks this morning! If you fancy yourself a journalist, at least try to add some balance to your conjecture, otherwise it looks like an exercise is kissing ass and/or gives the appearance that you're a stooge of management. OK, so we'll all gladly agree to give Sather props for the trade that brought us McDonough. But, how about mentioning just one or 2 other trades that didn't work out? Better yet, how about making the article an analysis of the overall body of Sather's work with the Rangers, ending with a conclusion about whether Dolan's comment about Sather was correct? Is that too much to ask of Brooks? Obviously it is. Expect to see an exclusive interview with Sather or a scoop coming up soon for Brooks, as a reward for being a mouthpiece for Dolan and Sather. As for Brad Richards, I'd gladly swap him for Paul Stastny....huge improvement in scoring skill, age, salary and cap hit. If they don't dump Richards because of St. Louis, then the trade becomes a bust AFAIAC. Richards ain't even playing with St.Louis any more, so what's the point? St.Louis has been thriving without Richards for all these years...he's going to go in the tank and sulk if they buy out Richards? Please. If they beef up the wings, they could do well with Stastny, Stepan, Brassard as centers. Not ideal, but workable....at least until next years trade deadline. That's when you try to improve even further.

JFC31


Fri Mar 21 2014 10:50 am EST

Needless to say, HUGE game tonight against Columbus who is 7th in the conference (third in the division) and tied with us in points with a game in hand. Moreover, Detroit is just behind us in 9th position a point behind us with a game in hand for the last wild card spot. HUGE 2 points on the line to have a shot at the playoffs with a dozen games left in the season!

Ranger47


Fri Mar 21 2014 10:40 am EST

RF4L: NHL Numbers has him as a UFA but I agree that the Rangers could let him walk either way. If he is an RFA they would most certainly try to trade his rights (or do a sign and trade) rather then let him walk.

Vic


Fri Mar 21 2014 10:12 am EST

Vic: Whether or not he's an UFA or RFA, the Rangers could let him walk (or any other player if they so choose).

RF4L


Fri Mar 21 2014 10:11 am EST

Brassard is an RFA...

RF4L


Fri Mar 21 2014 8:12 am EST

NYSTRANGER: You know, the possibility of not buying out RICHARDS is becoming more and more likely. Given the fact that the Rangers have a glut of wingers and a scarcity of Centers I could see them keeping RICHARDS. I don't even think they would need to buy out NASH. I think NASH could be dealt but I wouldn't count on a phenomenal return. Basically the Rangers would be taking whatever they could get back plus Salary Cap relief. I thought BRASSARD was an RFA but on checking he is a UFA. If that is the case then I could see the Rangers letting him walk. Knowing SATHER I could see him going after STATNSY (mostly because I think it is the worst option possible) and overpaying for him. They would then have STATSNY, STEPAN, RICHARDS as the top 3. If you like names (i.e. form over substance) that lineup down the middle would appeal to SATHER. Personally, I still think it sucks. If they move NASH that makes room for some on the wing including MILLER if they opt to have him there.

Vic


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:57 am EST

I do concur there's been a difference since the concussions. And remember, even though it's not referred to, his first was in Europe during the lockout, meaning he had 3 concussions in 12 months. That's early-retirement potential for sure. If he'd suffered another one after coming back from this season's he'd have been foolish not to seriously consider retirement. When you think about the hit he took for that resulted in his latest concussion, you cannot help but ponder the increased susceptibility. That hit was cheap, but we've seen far worse where the player misses only a game or 2. I have no doubt suffering a 4th is a scary thing for him, especially if it were to occur this season (ie 4 concussions in say 18 months is NOT a good thing).

RF4L


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:34 am EST

he also played better, before he became damaged goods. those concussions have affected his play.

stevielegs


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:32 am EST

nash played better when gaborik was on the team. surprised veenyo hasn't put nash with msl and maybe Richards. the former coach probably would have.

stevielegs


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:29 am EST

This summer I think the Front office has to seriously look at what to do with Nash and Richards. If they can't trade Nash would it be better to buy him out instead of Richards? Bigger cap hit almost as many years. Both contracts suck. At least Richards has shown some try in him this season. Nash looks like a guy afraid to get another concussion. Not a way to play hockey. I have been staying away more and more these days becasue of my disgust with the direction this team has taken. Still hold out hope for this off season. But if the Rangers screw the pooch this summer. I may have to take a long mental break.

NYStranger


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:27 am EST

By the MSL comment, I am referring to what Sather gave up to get him. If it was a straight up deal for Callahan, then it would be irrelevant.

RF4L


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:25 am EST

I stlll think Nash would be much more effective playing on a team with an established offensive leader. His salary belies it (and I'm not defending him here either), but he is a contributor offensively, not a leader. I didn't see him enough in Columbus to see that, but Sather and his scouts should have. In other words, it's yet another example of Sather misreading his team and an individual player, something he's been doing consistently since the Oiler dynasty was traded away (for pieces that never fit properly in Edmonton). IMO, the MSL trade is the latest example, but for different reasons. Despite his pathetic offensive output to date, I think MSL will produce, but he's only got a couple of productive years left (and that's being optimistic IMO) and the Rangers, unless Sather pulls rabbits out of his hat this summer or next, are too many holes away from truly reaping the rewards of MSL's efforts (ie a cup appearance/win). RETIRE SATHER!

RF4L


Fri Mar 21 2014 7:10 am EST

schneidw: If it makes you feel any better, I am wrong, too. I don't recall proclaiming any team won the trade but I certainly didn't think the Rangers 'lost' the trade when it was done. I always maintained adding that first rounder meant the Rangers were giving up too much, but I never imagined how utterly unimpressive Nash would be more games than not and as a result, how little impact overall in the team's fortunes he would have. I knew he wasn't physical, but geesh, I never realized what a powder-puff he is. He is definitely a diminishing asset (and I am using the word 'asset' generously here). In retrospect, the Rangers should have hung up to Redden (they only bought out his last year) so they could buy out this summer both BR AND Nash. Another high risk high reward failure courtesy of Glen phuckin' Sather.

RF4L


Fri Mar 21 2014 1:45 am EST

Nice help from other teams tonight, everyone lost... The curse of Hospo? ;)

Ola


Thu Mar 20 2014 11:50 pm EST

http://youtu.be/EeSXsuEkFIY

Messier11


Thu Mar 20 2014 11:49 pm EST

Looks like clowe can handle lucic

Messier11


Thu Mar 20 2014 11:37 pm EST

Open letter from Canucks beat writer to Kassian: if Torts stays, don't take qualifying offer and go through arbitration

Messier11


Thu Mar 20 2014 11:35 pm EST

http://www.theprovince.com/mobile/story.html?id=9632501

Messier11


Thu Mar 20 2014 10:21 pm EST

I was WRONG again.... rub it in York18 and others... I secede this trade was a failure...http://www.rantsports.com/nhl/2014/03/20/who-won-the-rick-nash-trade-new-york-rangers-or-columbus-blue-jackets/

schneidw


Thu Mar 20 2014 9:41 pm EST

Chicago set to introduce yet another budding star Teuvo Teravainen tomorrow. He's been dubbed the FInnish Patty Kane. *SIGH*

RF4L


Thu Mar 20 2014 9:37 pm EST

mf: So you're posting McDavid clips why? To emphasize what an idiot Sather is? If so, carry on mate!

RF4L


Thu Mar 20 2014 9:22 pm EST

Horrible night for the Rangers....Red Wings, Jackets, Flyers and Devils all win....Pens tied 4-4 and get a 5 minute PP late in game and don't score...Lose in OT to Red Wings with less than a second left.....Oh well....Rangers have to win their games starting with tomorrow night....Time for MSL to come alive....

PJ


Thu Mar 20 2014 7:51 pm EST

Watching the Blue Jackets make me wish the rangers had their grit. They are a ton of fun to watch. Sort of like the Rangers were a few years back.

cnparda


Thu Mar 20 2014 7:46 pm EST

McDavid talks OHL playoffs, future on NHL Live......http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=27416&navid=nhl:topheads

mf


Thu Mar 20 2014 7:42 pm EST

But of course............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c6X1fcDRwM

mf


Thu Mar 20 2014 5:02 pm EST

Have you seen Juniors grades......................

thedugster


Thu Mar 20 2014 3:55 pm EST

I wish they all could be California....Girlssssssssss

mf


Thu Mar 20 2014 3:31 pm EST

mf: I'll put a call into the little old lady from Pasedena....

Ranger47


Thu Mar 20 2014 2:51 pm EST

What we needed was, "a little deuce coop with a 4 on the floor!" :->

mf


Thu Mar 20 2014 2:50 pm EST

We got a Chevy Vega with a warped aluminum engine block.....

mf


Thu Mar 20 2014 1:43 pm EST

Wild: If the Rangers fail to make the POs, it'll be fascinating to see how you put your positive spin on that!! ;^)

RF4L


Thu Mar 20 2014 1:16 pm EST

Might that "old yugo" be one of the Mahovolich brothers (Canadian of Yugo blood lines, I think) coming out of retirement? I think Mark Pavelich, though an American, was also of that ethnicity - would love to have him back as well! :)

Ranger47


Thu Mar 20 2014 12:51 pm EST

What we have is .... A wheel from a Lamborghini, a radiator from a Ferrari, some panels and bumpers from a Porche............ The widshield wipers from a Rolls. and a few side mirrors from an old Yugo.

rangerlou


Thu Mar 20 2014 12:29 pm EST

We didn't buy a lambo. We traded our pinto that thought he was a lambo for an older model lambo

Messier11


Thu Mar 20 2014 12:28 pm EST

The Lambo does start. it just will not go over 50 miles per hour.

rangerlou


Thu Mar 20 2014 12:05 pm EST

""As of Monday, the Rangers ranked 18th in the NHL in total goals scored with 173. Rick Nash has just two goals in his last 15 games, Richards has one in his last 12, but still, the spotlight is on St. Louis to get going.""..................That is sick! This is like buying a Lambo and it doesn't even start when you turn the key

TradeStar28


Thu Mar 20 2014 11:45 am EST

...and to add to that Sather did a good job turning a 7th round pick into Carcillo. He has added something to that 4th line that is helping it be so good...now it hasn't REALLY helped yet, but come playoffs,as the Rangers have seen, a 4th line can make a ton of difference in a series.

Wildcard


Thu Mar 20 2014 11:42 am EST

There are literally years until we really know, but early on it looks like Sather made another great trade moving MDZ. I fully expected him to have SOME sort of a turn around after the trade, but it just isn't happening. I still think he will put things together, but I have been wrong before.

Wildcard


Thu Mar 20 2014 11:35 am EST

Zip: Pouliot not at practice, birth of daughter. Haggerty, Dorsett taking shifts

Messier11


Thu Mar 20 2014 11:26 am EST

Del Zero http://nyrangersblog.com/uncategorized/remember-michael-del-zotto-hes-struggling-in-nashville.html

puckyou


Thu Mar 20 2014 8:29 am EST

RF...That would be tomorrow night....I don't feel good about it...Hopefully the Habs take something out of the Jackets tonight....

PJ


Thu Mar 20 2014 7:41 am EST

http://www.earlytorise.com/beware-the-negativism-virus/#

stevielegs


Thu Mar 20 2014 7:20 am EST

Any predictions on the outcome of tonight's game? Obviously, it's an important one, but not THE game, given the number left and the tightness of the race. I will say this: If the Rangers don't come prepared to play, they will not win, even if the King stands on his head.

RF4L


Thu Mar 20 2014 7:18 am EST

mf: It was a pretty nasty hit but hard to say intentional. More of a case where the lack of respect amongst players, I think. I mean there are 4 seconds left in the period - why are you looking to drive a player into the boards like that in a game where there has been no animosity and with 2 players who aren't known for that sort of stuff. Apparently, Ranger is ok - sent to the hospital for precautionary reasons. Thank goodness. That said, as I've been lamenting on here for years, sooner or later someone will get paralyzed from a hit like that.

RF4L


Thu Mar 20 2014 7:04 am EST

Nick truer words have never been spoken. I give you exhibit A Lucky Luke Robittaile. Job for life indeed! &#128551;&#128556;

MelvilleFred


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