some nice graffiti.
Fri May 18 2012 6:12 pm EST
Richards with another 1st period goal to put NJ on their heels tomorrow. 4-1 Rangers
Gibbo
Fri May 18 2012 5:59 pm EST
Hospo- We will loose tomorrow, you and I both know it. After that game, we might have a chance. But tomorrow is a L in the protocol.
Ola
Fri May 18 2012 5:12 pm EST
A little levity for tomorrow's game -- feel free to play along at home. (And I still miss Sam Rosen calling these games): http://www.PuckPress.com/blog/featured/doc-emrick-playoff-bingo
josh29
Fri May 18 2012 4:31 pm EST
E/HIP - 100% in agreement....and I think Torts knows it too
Hospo
Fri May 18 2012 4:29 pm EST
OLA - That's why you can watch it tonight...Find something else to do tomorrow!!!
Hospo
Fri May 18 2012 4:24 pm EST
HIPCHECK: anyone who would accuse the NYR of not competing enough is just an assertion that I can't go along with. I actually like the way the NYR are battling. It's not an issue of ability to go to war. They are hustling and contesting every corner of the ice. They aren't leaving anything on the ice as far as I am concerned. If they lose it would not be for effort but for execution. They have to keep pushing against the wall that is the NJD and get a bounce or two. When the get the lead, they win games. They are great at playing with marginal leads and not good at coming from behind.
E
Fri May 18 2012 4:11 pm EST
stevie- Game is tomorrow...
Ola
Fri May 18 2012 3:38 pm EST
Things get way, way, wayyyyyy over simplified, over analyzed & over stated in the papers & here on the wall. I watched that game close, (lol literally, I like to pull my chair up real close to the 52" HDTV... both for superstition & to really feel close to the action). Anyone who says the Rangers lacked passion & intensity are f*/cking crazy. I was d*/mn proud of the effort & "compete-level" all the way through. The Boys were hitting & flying around like crazy! Devils are a excellent team also. They played exceptionally hard and their shots (got deflected) and found the back of the net. Period, end of story!! I loved the passion shown by our guys, and I haven't lost one bit of confidence whatesoever. HAGELIN is due. MCDONAGH is due. And KRIEDER is on the verge of a multi-Goal game. Rangers offensive floodgates are about to burst open. Lack of effort, "MY */SS"!!!!!!!
hipcheck
Fri May 18 2012 3:06 pm EST
Rhet - Cap Hell would have been losing to Washington in the last Round....Lets hope the Devil doesn't send us there this series.....I don't worry one iota about the finanicial things of next year, they will work out
Hospo
Fri May 18 2012 3:04 pm EST
E/Rhet - This is a team that doesn't generate enough offense, in part, becasue it chooses not to......It wants low scoring games where they play their disciplined opportunistic game and not looking to press and score offnesively....I think that is the smart way to play NJ.....But, .Find a way to either beat their forechecking or keep the puck in their end, and theRangers will beat them just like they did Ottawa and Washington....Let the Devils forecheck and beat them to the puck in the offensive zone, and it's over....RHET - I totally disagree with you on the lack of effort..I think it was two things the other night..1) .The Devils were jsut stronger and faster; and 2) Alot of times the Rangers, thinking defense, pulled back from getting the puck along the side boards and went straight to their defending position towards the middle...Both let the Devils have the puck, move it around, eventually take a shot and get deflections...That will be their plan again..
Hospo
Fri May 18 2012 2:47 pm EST
Rhet0ric: Here is the deal with this NYR team. They don't generate enough offense. Their margin for error is so tiny that one fail and its over. The problem that they are faced with right now is that they are playing a NJD team that is in this observers opinion more skilled, more poised, and more mature. They will teabag you if they get their offense going. Giving up 3 or more goals regardless of how/where it happened is too much for this squad to overcome. They need to get the lead in the 2nd, go into the 3rd with it and put the skate on the neck and saw away. If the scenario is reversed? The firepower just isn't there. Its all miracles, and dreams. They must have control of the game. Force the NJD to open up some. They have absolutely gang raped Gaborik. People ask where Gabby is? If he isn't turning the puck over he is in the corner getting smashed relentlessly. And he is wilting. He simply is not getting to his scoring zones. Hagelin? Being forced wide. Richards? Looking for passing space but settling for outside shots. The NYR offense is coming from their defense. The NJD are surrendering the points and collapsing in. And so this series is all about Staal, MDZ, McD, and yes… even Stralman. That is where the shots are coming from. Even Kreider is scoring from there. The NJD will lose every single game against this NYR team if they get a 1-2 goal lead going into the 3rd period. If not? The ice tilts and the NJD have more collective firepower and experience.
E
Fri May 18 2012 2:44 pm EST
E... You could make the argument that the Rangers are headed for Cap Hell because they have a 3rd liner making over $4 Mil per season.
Rhet0ric
Fri May 18 2012 2:40 pm EST
Speaking of DUBINSKY, he skated today for the first time. He still probably wont be ready until the next round... CALLAHAN claims that his left hand is not bothering him at all... but if it was, would he ever admit to it? ...ZUCCARELLO... is skating with the Whale call-ups to be ready in case of injury... If MZA is close to being ready, why is Mitchell still skating for this team? ...STAAL claims he only had the wind knocked out of him from the hit to the boards/glass the other night ...BIRON... At CBC, Elliotte Friedman writes that Flyers GM Paul Holmgren should do everything he can to bring Marty Biron back to Philadelphia and have him act as Ilya Bryzgalov’s back up goalie... All things being equal, IMO, he'll stay in NY.
Rhet0ric
Fri May 18 2012 2:26 pm EST
schneidw: I actually am looking at this team and I am not certain that the team "needs" another marquee scoring threat on the LW. You have Hagelin and Kreider who need to develop. Its easy to forget that Hagelin was a 40-point guy after only a 2/3 a season. And Kreider is well… We will see but all signs look very good. And I also wouldn't rule out a return to form for Dubinsky. And what about MZA? Despite being so close to greatness, its easy to forget that some of these players are so young into their careers. I think a lot of this depth is great. Parise is going to get an insane contract. If you absolutely felt that you needed to step outside the organization (assuming you let Fed walk and/or Prust) I have a few guys on my radar like Hudler, Gaustad, Ponikarovsky, & McLeod are on my radar scope. In the case of Hudler he has been on may radar scope for a while. Parise is going to get a mind numbing contract and considering that the NYR have some guys like MDZ, and MZA as a first wave of contracts that goes in to a big salary killing re-signing period in 2013 when AA, Hagelin, and ESPECIALLY McD, and Stepan are going to be seeing some nice pay increases. The NYR have some very good players who are very young and are not only going to demand but have earned huge bumps. Cap hell is a place the NYR may find themselves quickly in. And then we talk about windows for championships and what not? Yeah, we may have a window. But that window may be open wide enough to start letting key players fly out of it before in many cases they have even hit their prime when we know that they are going to be great.
E
Fri May 18 2012 2:25 pm EST
I just don't get what's wrong with this team... they can't seem to maintain a consistent effort from game to game let alone period to period... they just don't show up for every game... it dogged them in the regular season and has continued to haunt them in the postseason... I have no problem with these guys losing a game, but when they lose because they didn't show up for it, it just drives me crazy... it's not something the Devils can be credit for, it's something we've failed at doing for a long time... SCHNEIDW... Yes, Parise does love Torts and he would be a great fit on this team, but the rest of the article mentions that he LOVES being a New Jersey Devil (his preference would be to stay there)... still, we could be in the running :) ..TUCC... You are 100% correct, if the Rangers are exhausted, it's not the two 7-game series that are to blame it's the coach... playing the 6th D and 4th line 10 minutes a game would help the team tremendously... hopefully it doesn't become our undoing.. if Torts has no confidence in Bickel (and his 3:00 minutes a game), then play Eminger... it's ridiculous already... FRED... How do we miss Dubinsky? What has he done in the postseason that we miss? He's been awful in the postseason, except for the two games he replaced Boyle on the checking line when he was out hurt.. that's it. Would I prefer him over Mitchell? Yes, any day of the week. The guy I think the team could really use right now is MZA. He could give our Power Play a boost.
Rhet0ric
Fri May 18 2012 1:56 pm EST
Ola it's Friday . Are you ready to watch the game alone even though you have been a jinx? Please reconsider find something else to do including the rest of the weekend. Enjoy your family. ....git r done....
stevielegs
Fri May 18 2012 12:28 pm EST
Parise- This is an excerpt from a column he wrote for a local rag... Something tells me he will like Manhatten better than Detroit. I grew up in Minnesota, so I didn’t know too much about New Jersey before I came here five years ago to play for the Devils. The only thing I really knew about New Jersey was that it was close to New York. I know now there is a lot to do here. There are a lot of things going on nearby. You can drive down to Atlantic City, or you can go to New York City, which really makes it fun. Each year I’ve lived here, I’ve liked it more and more. I’ve lived in Hoboken for a couple of years now. I like city living. I’d never really done that when I was growing up in Minnesota. What I really like about Hoboken is that I never have to take my car out. It’s fun. It’s different. There’s a lot of action. Plus, it’s pretty convenient. It’s easy to get to the Prudential Center in Newark, where the team practices and plays, and it’s also only a ten-minute ride to downtown Manhattan. My girlfriend and I like to go into Manhattan for a Broadway show or to have dinner, but there’s a lot to do around here, a lot of restaurants. I like going to Giants games when there’s time.
schneidw
Fri May 18 2012 12:07 pm EST
Such a perfect fit... At Newsday, Arthur Staple spoke with JP Parise, father of Zach Parise, who said that while his son hasn’t decided on anything regarding his future yet, he does like a certain coach of the Rangers. “Zach likes Torts a lot. Zach knows how to work, he doesn’t shy away from the discipline part of it. He’d fit right in there.” Tortorella was an assistant coach on the 2010 USA Olympic team that Parise, along with Ryan Callahan and Chris Drury,
schneidw
Fri May 18 2012 12:07 pm EST
HOSPO- no argument from me.. I agree w you 100%. Can;'t waiit for SAT night and hoping the NYRs are sleeping in hyperbaric chambers tongiht...
schneidw
Fri May 18 2012 11:12 am EST
yeah 1st 2 periods game 1 we were off balance literally no legs,complete exhaustion. then bang girardi finds the net,home crowd,adrenaline carried the day. we have played too many games,is all. u could see it in henrik at end of wash. series even he was slow up top. you buy in or don't with torts,kraftily takin the heat for his players, GABORIK goes cliche EURO.torts wont say that to larry brooks. be dammed sure he reamed some peeps in that room later. i expect a different team saturday n gabby. but a little scary when you see what can happen when someone gets an unencumbered lane to shoot thru. but i expect a win,we've seen this 2 week mini-series for awhile now.
leetch2
Fri May 18 2012 10:21 am EST
Torts is a genius... in spite of him playing 5 D and 9 forwards, in spite of the fact that we are in another dog fight with a hated rival, after playing two 7 game series, with players who look completely gassed, and are starting to have problems with fundamental parts of the game... all anyone in the press is talking about is how much of a shit head Torts is to the press. Classic... way to take the pressure off the players!
Tucc
Fri May 18 2012 10:11 am EST
With 4 playoff goals before playing in a regular season game, Rangers' Kreider enters NHL Record Books: http://www.puckpress.com/blog/featured/rangers-kreider-enters-record-books
josh29
Fri May 18 2012 9:51 am EST
SCHNEIDW _ Disagree that the Devils defense sucks but it can be beaten--they are a little better behind the goal line than the Caps which makes it a little harder for the Rangers to keep possession in their end....But, if they can, that would be great becasue it would limit the Devil's chance to forecheck......Becuase, to me, the key has to be beating or preventing the Devils forecheck..If we can't hem them in ther D- zone we have to beat them to pucks in our end by going to the baords to get the puck rather then just staying in the mioddle all the time to close down lanes......Once we get/breaak out, there's alot of open ice...OTOH ,only Kreider seems up to taking advantage of it when guys like Gabby, Hagelin, Cally should also...
Hospo
Fri May 18 2012 9:30 am EST
NYRs- I have not watched Game 2 yet.. from the sounds of it... its going to be painful to watch... The Devils defense sucks... NYRs need Callahan, Prust, Hagelin, Kreider to crash the Devils D on teh forecheck and create turnovers... I owuld like to see Torts having the NYR D pinching in more frequently and helping the forecheck..its risky.. but there is reward to be had...
schneidw
Fri May 18 2012 9:29 am EST
TDCHI Regarding the raging Russian alcoholics, weren't they at a single place where no alcohol was being served rather then skulking around bars?.. Plain and simple, they broke a team rule by missing curfew by an hour and some discipline needed to be handed out but NAshville seems to have gone way far overboard, possibly becasue they had egg on their face becvase a busy bee reporter knew and they didn't ...Be interesting to see what they do with Radulov...
Hospo
Fri May 18 2012 9:28 am EST
Gaborik- I am glad to hear that Torts benched Gaborik... I rewatched parts of game 1 and Gaborik was definately floating around and not holding his edge along the boards.. and as somebody posted earlier, everytime he got the puck instead of taking the hit and clearing the puck forward, he would treat the puck as a hot potato and dump it behind Lundquvist and make the defense scramble and take a big hit instead... Gaborik is 205 lbs and strong, he needs to toughen up and lead by example..
schneidw
Fri May 18 2012 9:25 am EST
Gaborik- I am glad the
schneidw
Fri May 18 2012 9:17 am EST
tdchi- If that's what happend. The same reports had AK and Rads out 'till 4-5am drinking and so forth. You didn't get that impression from reading the SI article. They have it alcohol free, 1 am and Tortz checking the log at the hotell. A rule is a rule, Tortz and Polie definitely knows best if its absolute or not and its certainly their right to suspend a player for breaking it. Like imagine if the same thing happend to Gabby and Anisimov/or why not Dubi and Callahan. Torts suspended them, saying like "we have a few rules, and the ones we have we expect our players to follow". NY Post and everyone is reporting that Gabby and Anisimov/Dubi and Callahan had been out drinking till 5-6 am and returned hrs basically before the game the other day started. Do you think Slats and Torts would let everyone believe that in fact happend even if they knew it wasn't true? Its sounds pretty insane.
Ola
Fri May 18 2012 8:35 am EST
wally - the way I see it is that where there's smoke there's fire. In this case, it's all about how big the fire was...Also, a lot of times it's the fan sites and blogs that flame these things. So you have an honest beat reporter who states the basic: Two Preds players miss curfew --play poorly the next day. Then you have a Yotes blog that says they 'played like they were out drinking vodka all night' and that lights up the Internet. Next thing you know, you got a guy who trolls blogs looking for media content --Puckdaddy for example --reporting on the amateur reporting and fan speculation. Then the national media picks it up from Puckdaddy and before you know it, you've got Radulov and Kostitsyn coming home hammered just 13 hours before the game and playing poorly because of it. If you're the Preds, you can issue a statement saying it's BS. But then what do you say? If you don't explain WHAT happened, you're just fanning already out-of-control flames. And think of it this way: There are a lot of things those two could have been doing that would have been FAR less flattering than coming home drunk at 4 a.m., which is something just about every hockey player at every level has done on rather frequent occasion. I mean, how does it look if these guys were found making out in a bathroom at curfew? Or doing some weird fetish thing with goat? Or like I said, doing some sort of hardcore drug that would kick in the NHL's substance abuse policy? I don't think they handled it bad, other than to sit the guys for two games. But again, we have NO idea what they did and probably never will.
tdchi
Fri May 18 2012 8:32 am EST
TD, To your point of running a short bench, I totally agree you can go 2 &1/2 lines and 2 sets of D in Pee Wee/ Bantam but it doesn't work at this level. You might be able to do that for a period or maybe even a game but not a series without it catching up to you with players with dead legs. Also just my opinion.
wally5460
Fri May 18 2012 8:25 am EST
TD, If they were actually out partying than yes they should have been dealt with as they were but if the team jumped to conclusions based on hearsay then they dropped the ball. Just my opinion since I don't know if any of the article in SI is fact.
wally5460
Fri May 18 2012 8:21 am EST
correction...pissed away ONE game...
tdchi
Fri May 18 2012 8:20 am EST
OLA, here is what happened in the NFL because they didn't do it the right way. Here is a link to the lawsuit brought by John Vilma against the Commissioner and the NFL. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/saints-vilma-sues-roger-goodell-193542215--nfl.html;_ylt=AkbF6bTaCyDBwlq0jFpMF7s5nYcB
wally5460
Fri May 18 2012 8:19 am EST
Ola/wally - I believe the who story about RADULOV and KOSTITSYN actually came from a Coyotes beat writer(s) who were at a bar late-night and noticed those two skulking around. And call me a schmuck for drawing conclusions, but in my estimation when you see ANYONE out on the prowl at a party after midnight, chances are pretty good they're not sober...And to take this thought a bit farther, the late-night alcohol-free 'parties' I've knew in college weren't exactly sober affairs...in other words, throw on some techno, get some glow sticks and drop some X...dance the night away...anyway, there could be a lot to the story. I'm not going to believe for one minute that TROTZ threw away his best chance yet to win the cup over one sober hour after curfew. SI can write any apology they want, but those two numbskulls screwed the pooch in a way we'll probably never know. Trotz does and he pissed away two games where he could have man-handled the Yotes.
tdchi
Fri May 18 2012 8:01 am EST
JFC31 - It's funny because I was just thinking of those teams circa 1999-2004...just effortless slugs...I remember we all went apeshit over Todd "Heartbeat" HARVEY back then, like he was the second coming of GRAVES...Now we have a full roster of guys of that mind. Funny how much has changed since the lockout...And your right, these guys ARE tired. I can't even imagine what they must look like under the pads. McDONAGH has got to be a visual monstrosity with all the pucks and abuse he's taken...and that's the problem here is that TORTORELLA had shortened his bench to such a degree that he's basically playing with half a roster. Let me tell you, I've played some pretty intense games with a short bench...I remember winning one with NO subs...just five guys skating 60 minutes...but many other times, I can recall having a full bench, rolling three lines and three D-pairings on a team with only moderate talent and beating a team with dynamic talent that has a short bench...And that's the case here with the Devils. They don't mind skating worthless hacks like BERNIER and GIONTA and CARTER 10 minutes a game. And that way, some of the more skilled guys can get legs to give the absolutely gassed top-line of the Rangers fits...and in the case of Wednesday, they also score goals. Hell, those three guys have a combined six goals and six assists. Try finding that production from the Rangers' bottom line...in fact, the Rangers' bottom FIVE(Prust, Fedotenko, Rupp, Mitchell and Boyle) have a combined 10 points. And that's with them basically playing all 16 games so far(obviously Boyle missed a few). That's not because they're sucking. It's because they're simply not playing.
tdchi
Fri May 18 2012 7:53 am EST
Been traveling a lot again lately but wanted to throw my $.02 in. In watching Game 2 the thing that struck me most about the difference between the 2 teams is the Devils ability to handle the puck and make simple plays in their own end versus the Rangers complete inability to do so. I commented after Game 1 that the Rangers were horrific in that second period with respect to handling the puck and clearing the puck. It was something that they have been pretty good at all year and yet were horrible in game 1. I had hoped that would be the end of it but sure enough they were horrible ALL GAME LONG in game 2. ALL 3 goals by the Devils came after the Rangers had control of the puck with time and space in their own end. Instead of clearing the puck they either gave it away directly with a bad pass, threw it into the feet of a teammate who was covered or just fumbled with the puck and turned it over. Those weren't the only three times either. There must have been a dozen other times or more during the game where they failed to clear when they had the time and space to do so. I can't credit the Devils forecheck entirely for that even though it is a factor. The Rangers forecheck was on the Devils just as quickly and hard for stretches of the game but for the most part the Devils moved the puck out of their own zone MUCH better then the Rangers did. If the Rangers continue to handle and move the puck as poorly as they have so far in this series they are done. The turnovers and poor puck handling turn into extended shifts in their end with constant pressure. It ends in exhaustion and goals against. It kills any momentum and causes the game to look like it is being played in your end (which it is). They even handled the puck poorly on the PP when there was little to no pressure on them. They looked disjointed. They looked disorganized. They looked like they had no idea what they were going to do or where there options were going to be when they got the puck. That means they weren't playing disciplined hockey. They simply aren't good enough to play this way and win this series.
Vic
Fri May 18 2012 7:48 am EST
Ola - Having worked in the media, I can understand both sides of the Tortorella dilemma. From the media perspective, you need content. That's the whole purpose of being a reporter is that you report. When someone basically shuts the door in your face, that doesn't mean you can go back to your editor or producer and say 'sorry, bud...I got nothing.' Nope, you've got to fill that space with something. And when your job is to get information and there's one foul-mouth schmuck standing in your way from getting it, of course your going to exact a degree of hostility toward that guy. In fact, HE becomes the story instead of the mundane interview about the team not taking enough shots, being tired, being bad on the powerplay and so forth....NOW...the flip side is that as a coach, all I want my players thinking about is that next game. I think most players innately do that anyway...I don't believe for one second there's a single Ranger surfing the net looking for news about Wednesday's game. They simply don't have time in between getting shut-eye, mending wounds, keeping limber and hitting practice. But in the off-chance they do catch a highlight reel, the last thing you want is for them to be seeing a coach throwing X and Y player under the bus. Not with this sort of all-for-one strategy. Likewise, you get something like that and the other coach can seize up on it...use it for his own team's motivation...Personally, I have NO problem with what Torts is doing with the media. None at all. I think it's smart. Better to give assclowns like Milbury ammunition to blast and overanalyze him than the team itself. My problem with Torts is that I don't think he has the ability to adjust his own gameplan to evolve with these playoffs, not that he snaps at Fischler or anyone else after the game. I can't believe the media isn't seizing up on that. It really shows how weak they are in journalistic ability.
tdchi
Fri May 18 2012 6:08 am EST
OLA, if that story you quote is true it shows just how screwed up Nashville's management is. To allow the situation to continue to be misrepresented in the press is really nothing more that character assassination and the players should sue for libel.
wally5460
Fri May 18 2012 5:49 am EST
Sports Illustrated have Radulov and Kostitsyn returning at 1am when cerfew was at midnight (which had been confirmed by Nashville checking the log at the hotell). No alcohol had been consumated by either player. Ryan Getzlaf was seen at a nightclub in Helskini drunk as hell threatning people in the line to a night club. Several sources have him waiving his fist yelling "you don't want this" and saying that he could knock out the entire line "in three minutes". Hm, how suprising is it that a big deal is made of the first incident, and very little of the second? Also, and probably more severe, the speculation on Radulov and AK was that they had returned like 4-5am drunk. Nashville have yet to do ANYTHING about that speculation. I mean, sure if that's the way they want to run their business, its their right to go ahead and suspend someone for being a little late to curfew. But jesus, when their own players are being hanged in the entire hockey world for doing something completely unthinkable, and the TEAM knows that its not true, how on earth can they NOT issue a statement about it??? And it also says a ton about the chracter of Rads and AK that they themselves followed to teams orders to shut up. They should be up for the Bill Masterton Trophy.
Ola
Fri May 18 2012 5:47 am EST
If the devils cant sell out the their arena for the Eastern Conference Finals, what does this say about the franchise? A franchise that is receiving a financial helping hand from the league, needs to fill seats any way they can. They need to sell beverages, food, souveniers, promo material, hell, I dont care if the sell "loosies" in the parking lot, just sell, and get off the "leagues dole." ..... Anyone know if Phoenix has been selling out or even coming close to capacity during these playoffs? ........ Well, the only thing that matters really is winning the next game.... Heres hoping that our guys took advantage of resting and have healed enough to win tomorrow... "Lets-Go-Rangers"
mf
Fri May 18 2012 4:43 am EST
I could really care less how Torts treats the media. Not my concern in the least. How he handles the team and wins hockey game sis all I care about. Screw the media.....this is teh media that gave this team no coverage all year. Andy Petitte may return to Yankees was front page in February. Rangers victory over Boston...buried. These media bums come out of the woodwork now that were a final 4 team....screw them.
jnyr
Fri May 18 2012 2:00 am EST
So by my understanding the NJD would rather the arena be partially empty rather then have the NYR fan invasion? Good luck with that…. Not that it matters because the NYR fans will invade the place as they always do anyway. And why not? Its a beautiful arena home away from… screw it. Its home...
E
Fri May 18 2012 12:39 am EST
Time to Occupy the Rock with Blueshirts. What dumbasses the Devils are.
Bob
Thu May 17 2012 10:36 pm EST
Kings 3 games to none... They look well rested and unbeatable,
Tucc
Thu May 17 2012 9:30 pm EST
Nich: my big question is who are all these Devil fans that have tickets? They have like 500 fans for Fs sake. Pathetic people at that. Can't wait for the minor league shannagens that they do in that building! Wow.
NYStranger
Thu May 17 2012 8:44 pm EST
....so when I take the 40K foot look at this series here's what I see....we cannot go another 7 game series and win....doesn't happen...we are a tired Hockey club with guys running on fumes...and guys MIA Boyle, Cally, Gaboric, Dubi....when Brodeur is laying on his stomack and has a leg up in the air and the shot hits his leg.....Karma baby...BAD Karma. I just don't see it turning out well....
MelvilleFred
Thu May 17 2012 8:28 pm EST
...was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?? ZEBOP posted this morning that Cally may have abroken finger....would explain his play...we do miss Dubie. I could give a shit less about Torts and his Press Conferences.....I am however totally pissed off that when I go the Rangers POST GAME I'm getting Devil interviews al over the place!!!! That is truly annoying......and I'll re-state my position that the NHL is the most idiotic professional league in sports....how the F do you put on a marquee matchup on Saturday at 1PM....thaqt is a total joke!
MelvilleFred
Thu May 17 2012 7:32 pm EST
Christ. This is pathetic and goes to the core of why I hate this team. "The Devils have launched an online campaign to try to convince fans not to sell their tickets to their Rangers counterparts. The plan concentrates on stopping Rangers fan from infiltrating Prudential Center in the secondary market, where Devils fans who cannot attend the game or games sell off their tickets. Here are some of the options the Devils laid out on their website: * If you own seats and have to sell for any of the home games because of conflicts, do NOT list your seats on the secondary market. The team recommends several blogs to list available seats and suggests asking for pictures or to meet in person to ensure the buyer is a Devils fan."
Nick
Thu May 17 2012 7:13 pm EST
Renney is out of work, can he not be the pich hit coach for the post game press conference ?
HamiltonHellhounds
Thu May 17 2012 5:12 pm EST
HOSPO: I actually think Tortorella is doing this as some kind of self fulfilling BS. It's taken on a life of its own. Everybody is jokingly asking how long his pressers will last. And I bet Sully and John are sitting in a room laughing about this while the media discuss it.
E
Thu May 17 2012 4:05 pm EST
If they want to get to the final battle they have to win 3 games...... No excuses this is war......need more killer instincts...... No white flag or excuses....GIT R DONE!
stevielegs
Thu May 17 2012 3:50 pm EST
CHIN - Belive me, I'm fine with the Torts package as a whole, but he is such a douche in press conferences, especially after a loss....Perhaps he should just send Sullivan in there..or just say something like "hey guys, I got nothing and am in a bad mood so have a good night"..............OLA - Yeah, missing DUBI against teams like the Devils and Cps hurts...and Cally has to be injured...The other guy is Boyle....Phenomenal in the first round agaisnt Ottawa bust since then has been very slow for the msot part.......Imagine where this team would be WITHOUT KREIDER??
Hospo
Thu May 17 2012 3:48 pm EST
OLA: I'll agree with that, but I'll add GABBY to that. He didnt dominate physically like DUBI and CALLY, but there were many nights this year he was the best forward on the ice. Still not sure if he's hurt or not. And with DUBI, he didn't really dominate this year very often, certainly not as much as he did in spurts in the past. All his offensive skill and confidence went bye bye somehow.
chinstrap
Thu May 17 2012 3:44 pm EST
Hospo- If you look at what we do NOT have now, compared to when we played our best hockey, it's IMO dominating efforts by Callahan and Dubinsky.
Ola
Thu May 17 2012 3:27 pm EST
E/HOSPO: I hear you guys on Torts, but all the Ranger beat guys have actually stuck up for him for the most part in their blogs. They cite the idiotic questions that some national media (and Fischler) have been asking and say they don't really blame Torts for being short and snippy in those instances. In other cases, obviously, he could do better. But all he cares about is winning, not appeasing a press corps that he (right or wrong) has no use for. It was funny to see the beat guys take Fischler to task for his absurd question about why Torts called time out in one of the games after an icing with the team tired as hell and up a goal.
chinstrap
Thu May 17 2012 2:41 pm EST
E - Agree about Torts..I couln't care less about the media and I don't care if he remains tight lipped butt there is no reason to be a giant douche all the time and even treating good questions with condescending and annoyed looks and phrases..Too bad there's not a blogger or reporter to call him out and get in his face and stay in it.......As for the FATIGUE factor, Somewhat disagree..If it's not fatigue/wear and tear (physical and/or mental) it's something else (not lack of effort) because..other then a 15 minute stretch where penalties and momentum/adrenaline took over, the Devils were the quicker team, winning the race to the puck (hell, alot of the times the Ranges conceeded the race), and winning the physical battle for space in the slot.....So, if fatigue is not a factor, the Devils then are just the better team right now.....We'll see on Saturday..
Hospo
Thu May 17 2012 2:32 pm EST
Whenever I'm feeling just a little too happy, I'm glad I can come view the wall and bring me back down! Man, we were beaten up, down, and sideways through the shi**y ice last night, and still coulda/shoulda won? I'm not jumping off any bridges. An open shot (how DID he get that open? wink wink) by a true sniper, and 2 deflections. So I'll concede the goals. Pretty typical Devils goals. And we were 2" away here and there from putting the game away. I won't get frustrated. The day that the Rangers' performance directly affects the way I get paid at work, then I'll care. These are still an inspiring bunch of guys for whom it's been a pleasure rooting this season, and that's something I haven't been able to say with a straight face for many, many years. Kick ass in stinktown, and let;s end this in a week.
Rexi29
Thu May 17 2012 2:30 pm EST
KIS: I won't acknowledge fatigue as an issue because there was a couple of swaths where they were in complete control of the pace, flow, and they got off something like 10-shots with NJ getting 1. Nut the bottom line was that they did a lousy job covering IK17 on that PP. when Prust was out there he boxed him out even without a stick. Without him? They left him WIDE open. That snapshot was ridiculous. I didn't even see it until it was rolling out of the net. Lundqvist had zero chance to make that save. The NYR have got to keep someone between him and the net. It's critically important. By contrast, NJD are having no trouble keeping an eye on Gaborik who didn't get a good shot off all night and was marginalized to the point that he wasn't missed at all on the ice. So benching him didn't hurt at all. The reality is that the right team won last night. So what now? Now we go to NJ and aim for a split. And this is the path. This NYR team is a heart attack team. They don't win easy but it's important to remember that in every single instance of having their backs to the wall, they won. And I have no reason to believe that changed.
E
Thu May 17 2012 2:16 pm EST
JFC31: while on one level it is funny with Tortorella's pressers it's also a little ridiculous. I understand what he is doing but he doesn't have to be an over the top dick about it. The curt answers, "no, next question" and the like are upsurd. It's really okay to take the edge off. Something along the lines of, "you know, I need to keep that in the locker room." The only guy who he isn't ignoring (Brooks) is Stan Fischler. With him he says little but he isn't such a dick to him. But when you are the coach of a team who receives international attention you need to be better. This is why I don't like Tortorella.
E
Thu May 17 2012 1:55 pm EST
rink rat don't you eventually become a senator? love that movie
KIS
Thu May 17 2012 1:53 pm EST
After looking at tons of responses to Torts sitting Gabby, I wouldn't be surprised that Torts sat Gabby as a way of sending a message to the whole team. A reminder. Torts is big into the mind games.. He is also arrogant and confident. I could see him thinking the series is going going 6 or 7, I want my players to know they have to keep doing what we do. Basically rolling the dice on one game but doing it to win the series.
KIS
Thu May 17 2012 12:53 pm EST
Ola you can watch the game on Friday but that's it. .... Nobody will tell you differently. Enjoy the game , watch it alone.
stevielegs
Thu May 17 2012 12:20 pm EST
He's on a Roll..
Hospo
Thu May 17 2012 12:07 pm EST
In response to some of the Rangers fan/media freaking out over last nights loss: **** "What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?....... Hell no! What the f** happened to the Rangers I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you RinkRat, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my (rats)ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Parise, he's a dead man! Brodeur, dead! Niedermeyer... (I left the Niedermeyer in there...just seemed right)
RinkRat
Thu May 17 2012 11:33 am EST
I think anyone who'd suggest that any current Ranger would tank on purpose is either a nob or doesn't understand this team and sports in general.
RF4L
Thu May 17 2012 10:54 am EST
I think the guys looked exhausted last night. Doesn't matter how much your coach tries to tell you that you not tired, the body just can't do it sometimes. They all looked tired. Girardi and Cally really look beat up and exhausted. Hope the 2 days off helps.These guys are doing what they can. Yes it does suck when 3rd and 4th lines beat you but shit happens. Easily could have been the other way around with the Rangers winning. If Kreiders post goes in or Prust wrap around. How many times does a goalie save a shot with a flying back heel. Last night the bounces went Jersey's way. Hopefully game 3 goes the Rangers way.
KIS
Thu May 17 2012 10:53 am EST
Apparently, the fastest/easiest path to the Cup doesn't always result in success: http://www.puckpress.com/blog/featured/the-easy-road-to-the-cup-is-not-so-easy
josh29
Thu May 17 2012 10:53 am EST
Not official, and hopefully not true, but I'm hearing PAVEL VALENTENKO signed with HK Avangard Omsk. He is a restricted free agent, according to the Whale. Here is some info on contract statuses from the Whale... http://www.ctwhale.com/news/?article_id=1040
Dineen11
Thu May 17 2012 10:30 am EST
Hospo -- Hagelin, in particular, lives and dies by his speed. Whereas Gabby can snipe if ge gets the puck on his stick anywhere from the dots in, Hags' game is all about using his speed to pressure the D, get to the puck first, etc. Any loss of speed due to fatigue takes away his whole game basically. To a large extent, it effects Gabby too. If fatigue is setting in, those 2 guys are the ones who it will really be noticeable on as it robs them of a HGE part of their games. Tired legs are the worst thing that could happen to them.
JFC31
Thu May 17 2012 10:26 am EST
Interesting tidbit on Torts from NHL Center Ice: Team USA might rethink it's desire to have him as head coach because dealing with the press during the Olympics is a key responsibility after games and they do not want the press to be hostile to Team USA because of their hatred for Torts. Screw 'em all....Tortarella's responsibility is to the NY Rangers and the drive to bring a Stanley Cup to NYC. The press in general are a bunch of pricks who have an overblown sense of their own importance and cannot stand a guy who says and does whatever he wants without regards to what THEY want. Screw 'em!
JFC31
Thu May 17 2012 10:24 am EST
JFC - Totally agree on everything...Although Gabby and occasionally haglins lack of utilization of their speed is a head scratcher...Also, while Torts may be playing the macho card, he knows the true deal (as does the team) but this is the best way to proceed...
Hospo
Thu May 17 2012 10:19 am EST
It's no coincidence tha Kreider has been one of the Rangers' better players in the last 2 games.....it's not just his skill lvel, it's the fact that he's coming off of maybe a 30-game college schedule?....whereas the Rangers are coming off an 82 game schedule of blocking shots and sacrificing the body, combined with the Caps series which was essentially an 8-game series. Kreider's body has not taken the pounding that the Rangers vets have since October. The Rangers were a tired team last night.....their decision-making was atrocious, they were a step behind, their first-step speed was sluggish and they seemed to be struggling on every battle along the boards. They also took some hits that were a result of not being sharp. Torts can talk all the macho crap he wants about how fatigue should not be a factor at this point in the season, but it's simple biology.....when the body is stressed and cannot get adequate rest, it doesn't heal and it doesn't recover. And when the body is exhausted, the mind does not work well either. The Rangers will be much better on Saturday after 2 days rest. I don't think this group ever tanks or dogs it on purpose....they have character and they are committed.....unlike so many of the Ranger teams from the late 90's through the days before Sather finally was dragged kicking and screaming into doing the right thing and growing this team from within. Those teams made we want to puke....lazy, uncaring, overpayed pukes who were allowed trangression after transgression with no consequences. This current Rangers team is one I am proud of, win or lose. I don't believe that they didn't show up last night.....well, maybe their bodies didn't but their spirit did. These guys aren't dogs, they are just a tired team that needs some rest and recovery.
JFC31
Thu May 17 2012 10:11 am EST
VTRANGER - I don't think you will g et anybody arguing about Girardi on the PP....When the best you have is Stralman (DZ's puck handling is going down a bit with the overwork), you have problems...I still think MCD is the best option........As for gabby, bingo, his speed has been useless..As has Hagelin's......OTOH, KREIDER is using his to his full advantage...The Devils with their forechcking will leave holes, the Rangers speedier players have to take advantage of it at some point...
Hospo
Thu May 17 2012 9:23 am EST
RF4L - Whether by desing or not, exactly on #2...Keeping the focus on him after losses and not the shotcomings of the team is something the players will appreciates....Also, I can just imagine some of the Torts press conferfence imitations that go around the locker room,=..
Hospo
Thu May 17 2012 9:20 am EST
BOB - "Last night is on the players who decided to be passengers instead of showing up to play. It is not on the coach" The thing is, I jsut don't know if it was their decision....The Devils were faster almost the entire game...beating them to the puck...closing off the baords.....As a team, the Rangers just couldn't keep up even if the mind wanted them too....Obviously, Gabby could have put in more effort...and Richards and Hagelin also...but the rest of the team jsut looked relatively gassed caomared to the Devils...Doing their damndest to defend but not having enough to generate offense---guys like Cally and Boyle being prime examples......As for TORTS, he really is a GIANT dick...But whio cares about the press conferences...I think he knows the team just couldn't physically (not toughneesss) match the Devils last night...and the only thing he can do, like in the Cap series, is blame it on "effort" , ingrain it even more mentally on the Rangers, but give them rest physically the next few days so they are ready to play their game on Saturday,.
Hospo
Thu May 17 2012 9:18 am EST
And yeah, sometimes Tortorella's behaviour with the press is over the top but there are 2 things to consider here IMO: 1) The press are collectively more whiny that anything Tortorella can be accused of. How many times have we seen an article or a talking head tear a strip off of a player/coach/manager? Obviously, far too many times to even begin to remember, let alone count. How ironic, not to mention childish/immature/whiny/baby-thumb-sucking, it is to see them rant and rave and cry and get all indignant when the tables get turned and a player/coach/manager says something negative about one of them. That's basically what Tortorella is doing to them and they hate it - you should see all the negative stuff in the press up here about him, written by so called hockey experts who are only following the Rangers because there are but 4 teams left playing, meaning their deep knowledge about the team, it's coach and management is basically an oxymoron. Telling Tortorella to 'grow up' as one Toronto Sun scriber did in today's paper says more about the writer than it does about the Ranger coach. 2) Tortorella, I maintain, is doing what he's doing more by design than anything else. By being short and grumpy with the media, he's serving to focus their negativity on him, rather than the players. And it's working, too. I swear I've yet to read one negative article about any particular Ranger since Sean Avery was banished to the minors. Oh, there's lots of bitching and moaning about the Rangers shot-blocking offense stifling style of play, but nothing negative about the players - that's all being saved for the coach. Tortorella knows and is, I am sure, playing to it. Good on him. The biggest controversy so far was last night's Gabbie benching and even that didn't garner too much noise up here - most of the so called experts were split on their opinions on whether or not it was the right thing to do.
RF4L
Thu May 17 2012 9:08 am EST
pa: Yeah, but Staal came back right away and a few shifts later, pounded Clarkson, so I'm sure he's fine.
RF4L
Thu May 17 2012 8:52 am EST
Another thing to maybe keep an eye on. Staal got rocked last nite and was real slow getting up. It appeared his head banged off the glass behind him.
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 17 2012 8:40 am EST
TD: agree on your point about the powerplay. Yes, they've converted on three in two games, but for at least 75% of each powerplay they are absolutely inept, atrocious and incompetent. The puck is hardly in the offensive zone and the Dev's are regularly coming close to scoring a shorthander. It's downright embarrassing. It's clear that if they get enough shots on Brodeur, more than a few are going to go in. I know many will disagee, but I just don't see Girardi as an effective pointman on the first unit. Something has to change. On Gaborik: I wish he would carry the puck into center ice and then turn on the jets. It seems that he's always skating along the boards and is then easlily angled off by the D. Try something different man.
VtRanger
Thu May 17 2012 8:25 am EST
Bob.., once again a spot on post. At this juncture, the fine line between winning and losing is predicated by the players; not the Coach. Does he start juggling lines as early as he did if the roster is performing at an acceptable level? Doubt it. Does he limit the ice time of certain players if they are doing what is expected come this deep into a play-off run? Nope. The guy's a prick and we all know that but the players have to shoulder some of the burden here. I for one as a player wanted nothing more than to "get back at it" if a tilt started off slow or inconsistent. If a guy is hurt as it appears some now are, make the decision as a player in your own mind as to whether you can compete at the level required. If not, sit. If our guys lose because the Devs are better, so be it. If they bow out due to lack of effort, this Season meant nothing.
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 17 2012 8:15 am EST
I have no problem with Gabby sitting for a while in the 3rd. Considering the enormous sacrifices some of his teammates are making with their bodies, game in and game out, his half hearted effort (or complete lack thereof) to block the shot that led to the tying goal was unforgivable. Torts knows what it takes to win the Stanley Cup (not just one round) and that lack of effort is not going to get it done.
Tucc
Thu May 17 2012 8:08 am EST
Again ... Cally's hurt. I'm going to give him a pass. (I know, I know, excuses ... whatever). The guy's trying his ass off. He can barely hold his stick. Someone asked Torts between games if he'd like to talk about Cally, the inference being that he's playing hurt. Torts, of course, declined.
Zebop
Thu May 17 2012 8:01 am EST
RF4L----when we are beaten by Ryan Carter and David Clarkson, it makes those numbers hurt all the more. What happened to the clutch Fedotenko? What happened to Captain Cally's offensive contribution? If not for 20 YO kid out of college, we could already be golfing.
Bob
Thu May 17 2012 7:57 am EST
RF4L- Spot in. Really is amazing when you think about it. That is why every game is life and death. Every mistake they make not clearing the puck can cost them a game.
Fotiu22
Thu May 17 2012 7:54 am EST
Those of you that are regulars know that I am not the world's biggest Tortorella fan. I have eaten the crow that I deserved about my complaints with him over the past few years, as the Rangers results have exceeded their talent and ability level this season and that rests at his feet. Now the media is all over him for his dopey press conferences. Here I will support him. I don't give a rats posterior about what he says or doesn't say in them. Here is a guy who spoke the truth about what we all witnessed at the Winter Classic and was fined $30K. He spoke the truth about the Pittsburgh franchise, nothng against the NHL or the officials, and STILL was fined $20K by Bettman himself. All he is required to do is to show up for the PC's. This is his chance to flip off the league without it hitting his wallet. He works for an organization with a GM that is the least accessible GM of any NHL franchise, and an owner who employs an army of storm troopers to ensure that nothing bad is said about anything related to the Garden. The same owner who is in love with Isiah Thomas despite his disastrous results. I say screw the media. Let them whine. Do I think that it is a smart move to teach players lessons with benchings in the 3rd round of the playoffs? Of course not. However, none of us expected them to be in the 3rd round of the playoffs. So what he has done has worked. Last night is on the players who decided to be passengers instead of showing up to play. It is not on the coach.
Bob
Thu May 17 2012 7:54 am EST
Same old, same old for this club. Meagre offense. Look at this horrible numbers: BB no goals since game 3 of the 1st series. Callahan 1 goal in his past 12 games. Stepan 1 PO goal. Hagelin, Fedetenko, Prust and Rupp: 0 PO goals between them. That means 1/2 the Ranger forwards between them have scored 2 flipping goals since mid-way through the first round. TWO GOALS FOR HALF THE FORWARDS. How this team got this far really is stunning when you look at that pathetic statistic. No wonder this team needed 7 games to get this far and likely will need 7 in this series, too.
RF4L
Thu May 17 2012 7:46 am EST
Here is my take: They played 15-20 solid minutes for the game. That being said, they could just as easily scored 6 goals. Take the two they scored. McD's wraparound that went right across the goal line in the first. Gaborik getting robbed by the Fat Bastard when he lifted his leg and got lucky with his skate. Kreider hitting the post. (which if that goes in and the Rangers go up 3-1.....I say the Rangers win the game) Late in 3rd when the puck beat Fatso but it hit off the D's back. (although on one angle, looked like it was going wide)
Fotiu22
Thu May 17 2012 7:42 am EST
One big concern for me is the basically the use of 5 defenseman. What the hell is Bickel doing out there? The guy gets 4 minutes of ice time with a healthy Eminger in street clothes. Can anyone tell me Eminger wouldn't be a better fit at this stage? You cannot win the Stanley Cup with 5 defenseman playing three long series just to friggin' get there. What will be left if they do make it to the finals????
Tucc
Thu May 17 2012 7:35 am EST
Gotta agree with Milbury and Jones (and I never agree with Milbury) that Torts' act is getting real old. Combine all the minutes with the block-every-shot maxim, you have the Rangers - a tired, weakened and injured team that's being coached like it's Game 40 instead of being a round away from the Cup finals. It's almost a matter of Torts wanting to show his own toughness by sitting his leading scorers then bowing up against the media. You've ridden Richards, Gabby and Callahan all year. You can't bench two for lackluster play in one game -- making a comeback even more difficult -- and expect the third to play to standard with what looks to be a broken hand that would sideline him during the regular season. It's said that under Torts you "earn" your ice time. These guys earned it all year. On D, you can't take that many pucks in the ribs, feet, nuts or whatever and not show the effects. The team was due for a mediocre effort, one even Hank couldn't save. And Torts can push and bang his head against the plaster until he can no long speak coherently to regular humans, but what's he got left to tell his players? Block more shots. Clear the zone. Put the puck on the net. These guys have made it through two brutal seven-game series. They know what to do. Some nights it just can't be done.
bjohn18x
Thu May 17 2012 7:06 am EST
There is a pretty easy way to look at this game, and it's not a hell of a lot different from the way look at the losses versus Washington...There were ALL the same problems...and let me tell you guys who didn't happen to see the game last night...don't be fooled by the PP column...the first and foremost issue last night was that the PP was ineffective and SUCKED...almost as bad as the offense did 5-on-5...Aside from about 10 minutes in the second when they went up 2-1, the only other time when the Rangers carried the play was when they got desperate in the waning minutes of the third. In fact, that was the only time when they did seem to finally get it...Again, this Ranger team has a nasty habit of forgetting how they win...that cutsie drop passes and this 2-3-4-5 pass-and-then-shoot garbage doesn't work. Look, Uncle Daddy is probably the weakest link on this team simply because of his age. You get 40 shots on this guy and at least four of them are going in...it's a simple percentages with this guy. He can't move very quickly in the crease...he NEVER comes out to meet the shooter(ala HOLTBY) and unless you nail his glove(the one part that is pretty good in his game), he gives up juicy rebounds. And yet you look at the shot totals...more specifically, the shot totals WITH the blocked shots...and the Rangers never even came close to firing the puck 40 times at that fat f@ck. And yet I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times they zipped into the zone and then tried to get fancy with the puck only to either turn it over or have it cleared...ANOTHER THING...Man, if you're going to feed the POINT...then for F@CKS SAKE GO TO THE NET!! Another one I couldn't figure out...three guys cycling on the boards...ALWAYS pass to the point, which fires a shot that is either blocked and then cleared or rebounded and cleared...And last but not least, take a look at the ice time totals between these two teams...and again, you've got the game in a nutshell...CALLAHAN wasn't bad, but did he really deserve 24 minutes? Likewise with STEPAN...23 minutes? Devils had only three guys over 21 minutes and they were all defensemen...only five guys over 20 minutes...the only forward being KOVALCHUK....the Rangers had SEVEN GUYS over 21 minutes, three of them forwards...and FIVE GUYS over 23 minutes...I could understand shortening your bench a little against the skilled Washington team...but against these Devils? No reason for it.
tdchi
Thu May 17 2012 7:05 am EST
....thanks for the info Zebop....
MelvilleFred
Thu May 17 2012 7:04 am EST
The NHL has to be the most moronic professional league in the world.....Marquee matchup Rangers Devils and you put the game on at 1:00pm on Saturday......that's the definition of insanity!!
MelvilleFred
Thu May 17 2012 6:42 am EST
stevie- The worst part is that I am watching on Friday too, so we will definitely fall behind 2-1. But odds are good for the other games after that... ;)
Ola
Thu May 17 2012 6:40 am EST
Melville ... Cally has a busted finger, or something with the hand that he blocked a shot with in the last series (or was it against Ott?). He's clearly gutting it out right now. He's dropping his stick a lot -- something's up with one of his hands. Still, his effort dwarfs Gaborik's.
Zebop
Thu May 17 2012 6:36 am EST
Can't believe the postgame guys on MSG, including Leetch, couldn't figure out why Gaborik was benched. It was clear to me when I saw it live that Gabby's effort was lacking in the D-zone on NJ's second goal, the killer goal. He had a chance to clear, and then he had a chance to block the point shot. Like I said in the Wash. series, Gabby looks like he's moving at half-speed when trying to win pucks, or clear them, or pretty much anything that has to do with puck battles in the D-zone. Last night was an embarrassing effort by him. Sometimes these analysts ... are they looking at the game? Easy to see why he hardly played in the 3rd.
Zebop
Thu May 17 2012 3:25 am EST
Ola you can stop watching already. .....they almost stole a game they played only one good period. Not a 60 minute effort ... Next.....and the coach lost too not just the players. He needs to stop over tinkering over thinking .....but he won't.
stevielegs
Thu May 17 2012 2:15 am EST
Disappointed we didn't get to 2-0, especially feeling like we wasted precious PP goals, but in a game that we didn't play all that well, I'll tell myself it came down to two goalposts, one went in, one didn't... Extra day rest, Rangers bounce back strong, despite the afternoon start, I think. Richards seemed furious after getting tossed from a 3rd period offensive faceoff (regained the puck even though the Devil won it back) and seemed hellbent to score after that, one of the few notable 3rd period efforts. Sometime earlier Cally got tossed and Kreider gave him a shoulder bump then won it clean! What poise. With all those Rangers MIA tonite, why were the remaining few always so bunched up and/or colliding with one another? ;)
LeoS
Thu May 17 2012 1:40 am EST
I of course knew that we would loose, since whatched the game. 5th in a row now. But a little worrying that we look so tired. I think out D "lost" this game for us. NJD did a lot better job infront of their net than what our Ds did. The reff's won't call interferences for lesser violations, we need to do that to.
Ola
Thu May 17 2012 12:06 am EST
**wouldnt hurt
TradeStar28
Thu May 17 2012 12:06 am EST
In regard to the 5-6 Dman, I am thinking that the Rangers will bring in Tim Erixon during training camp this summer and it will be his spot to win.........Bickel just aint cutting the mustard.....OTOH, Stralman who has some warts, at least has some timely goals and assists. Not that it is relevant , but Mike Sauer woulda been perfect for playoff hockey.....Hope he heals back to 100% healthy this summer. It would hurt to bring in a seasoned vet for the blue line who has some decent upside....Emminger will probably be retained as a 7th dman and Woywitka will get kicked to the curb.
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 11:37 pm EST
Mind over matter only takes the body so far. The guys can say they're not beat, but they almost have to be. Two tough series going to the limit, one of them with a six- period game. I know any team still alive is gonna be tired but not playing a fourth line or the 6th D has to catch up. The TOI stats tonight showed Volchenkov the least used NJ d-man at 14 minutes. Their top guys played about four minutes less than ours. Our depth falls off a cliff between 4-5 and another between 5-6. Also Cally has to be just dragging ass. Getting a dependable 5-6 d-man might be good this summer if a kid isn't ready. Gotta get the split in Newark.
Nick
Wed May 16 2012 11:11 pm EST
I guess it has got to be like 94 totally. I thought the team played like many of the walsters and fans were behaving. May people after one game were putting the team into the finals against the kings. I didn't think the boys played with a lot of desire or purpose. a lot of reacting and not a lot of anticipating or pressing the game. Cally has done nothing. Prust is to damn slow.If the Rangers play up to their ability, the Devs can't beat them but when the Rangers play half assed they struggle. DOC good point the team handled the puck poorly tonight. so many wiffs by the D
KIS
Wed May 16 2012 11:10 pm EST
let me preface this by saying i love gaborik. but, every time we are in our own end and the break out pass goes to him i see him panicking, losing a battle on the wall, or passing the puck back to d and putting them in a really bad situation! he will do that whether there is pressure on him or not. with the jets he has he should move the puck forward. I watched the replay of the devils second goal man that was a weak if you can even call it an effort on his part. but, lets not not forget that we are in the eastern conf finals tied 1-1 and even though we didnt play well at all tonight the devils barely won. so its not all bad
Topovski
Wed May 16 2012 10:58 pm EST
BTW....Calahan is off his game, there is something wrong!
MelvilleFred
Wed May 16 2012 10:56 pm EST
W-L-W-W-W....in my dreams at least...the problem is you just don't know when you'll ever have a chance at the CUP...this may be our best chance for the next 100 years!
MelvilleFred
Wed May 16 2012 10:54 pm EST
Pa-Rangersfan - The thing is , the Rangers, as a whole, aren't THAT good (or deep) either...Not good enough where they can play the top game you want every night... .They jsut have to do it ENOUGH to win the series....Just like the Cap series, this should be a series of spurts within games and games when one of the team is a little better.....Having your top players play well can only help...2nd liners like Boyle and cally too...
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 10:47 pm EST
Hittin' the sack to try and forget this shit!
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 16 2012 10:46 pm EST
Hospo.., I stand corrected in regards to the Wash. Series. It was Game 6 (from my previous post.) I can't agree with you on these 2 Clubs being equal. When the Rangers step their Game up to a play-off acceptable level like in the 3rd of Game 1 and for the 2nd tonite; the opponent is clearly on the ropes. They win tonite and, dare I say, this would have been done in 5. The Devils are not that good, period!
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 16 2012 10:26 pm EST
PJ---Yeah, they have soem things to refocus on....Also glad they ahve TWO FULL DAYS off...They should come back strong and continue the W-L-W-L-W-L-W-L-W pattern,,,
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 10:24 pm EST
pa-rangersfan - This is a decent to good Ranger team playing a decent to good Devil team after losing 6 of 14 games to the Senators and Caps...Don't know what people were expcting ...Some nights they just aren;t going to be good enough....A LUNDQVIST steal would have been nice...but nothing he could have done on those goals...
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 10:24 pm EST
Torts with a short press conference....What a shock....He is keeping it all in the room...I am glad he is angry....Sense of urgency has to be there...
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 10:20 pm EST
MELVILLE - Hey will not stop putting pressure on themselves, you know that...They are just going to have to find a way to surive and be sllightly better then a tam that is just as good...Just like in the last series...Going 7 games unless they completley tire out..
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 10:19 pm EST
Bob.., you continue to be the man on point, btw....
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 16 2012 10:17 pm EST
My viewpoint has not changed from the shit-the-bed performance of Game 5 last series to now. A win tonite would have put the Devs in the ground with only the dirt needed. Now this Club again, has allowed an inferior opponent to become the aggressor. Does Gabby honestly collect a paycheck for this type of performance? The flip-side of that being; hey Coach, now is not the time to start fucking with your star. Force him to be accountable to the other guys in the Room. I can't decipher whether I'm beyond furious or extremely nauseous!
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 16 2012 10:17 pm EST
Forget the refs or anything else this game was lost by the Rangers. We cannot keep putting this kind off pressure on ourselves and expect to win in 7. Our luck will run out....we now have to split at NJ or we're toast!!
MelvilleFred
Wed May 16 2012 10:13 pm EST
Hospo...Agreed the goal at the end of the second turned the game....Have never seen a weaker effort than Gaborik's on that shift....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 10:12 pm EST
BOB -Yep... And I think we went a an entire period without Hearing Richards name, except when he got thrown out of the circl 5 times.....Kreide and Staal/MCD/Girardi are anothr story, thank God...
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 10:08 pm EST
And it's funny, there's not a single Devil I hate other then UNcle Daddy,..That baldheaded fuck at ice level is another stroy...I want a puck to rip his damn face off ..I swear to God that his job is to counter any statement made about the Ranggers with Devil slurping....I hinstly don't think he has even made a single praising statement of a Ranger other then The King and Jesus Kreider...
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 10:08 pm EST
For you guys back in the NY area.........I expect to see Boyle, Gaborik, Callahan, Fedotenko, faces on milk cartons. They were completely MIA tonight. Torts should have them all back out on the ice skating ladders tonight. How can there be any excuse for the lack of urgency and intensity? They are 7 wins from the cup. Good Lord.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 10:04 pm EST
JFC - Yep, except for the 2nd, they just looked a little slowere to the puck and weaker then the Deivls...I think the 3 games in 6 nights and the two lonng sries caught up a little...No excuse thought, they had the lead......To lose it to the Devils 4th line at the end of the 2nd was the Killer....Has our 4th line scored a POIT in the entire POs???Guys like Cally and Boyle can play D but just look a lttle slow offensively...while Richard, Gabby and Hagelin all were bested by the Devls...Th Rangers could use a jolt like Kreidr gave them in the first round....no a sawed off little punk like MZA but somebody that can buuzz, ht and skate...
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 10:01 pm EST
The problem I had with the officiating was after they called the penalty on AA in the third the whistles were put away....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 10:00 pm EST
Gotta figure a way to break the Devils relentless forecheck.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 16 2012 9:59 pm EST
I'd love to see the supposed slashingpenalty on Boyle....it was a weird place for that kind of infraction to occur....but, of course, NBC doesn't bother showing it. Hell, it only led to a goal....no big deal! Ugh
JFC31
Wed May 16 2012 9:56 pm EST
This is the type of game II was worried about before the series started...the Rangers played hard, but there was nothing there. Their minds were willing but their bodies were not able. They looked mentally & physically fatigued....just not sharp. They gave it a good run with whatever they had, but they were tired IMO. We'll regroup, recharge and take it to 'em on Saturday.
JFC31
Wed May 16 2012 9:56 pm EST
Oh well, the slightly better team won..the slightly stronger and deeper team won...the team that caused jus a little more more havoc in the slot won..the team who's three top offensive players -- Richards, Cally amd Gabby-- weren't zeroes.won....Still, all in all, a close game...Wven after two...Shoould we have expected anything else in what promises to be along series..Two very even teams that should go night to night...
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 9:50 pm EST
Hey Atleast Gabby will be well rested for the Saturday matinee......Oh well, have a good rest of the week everyone! $-)
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 9:49 pm EST
I can't watch this MSG postgame....Chico and Daneyko make me puke....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 9:48 pm EST
Hagelin pass back out of zone a killer there....This game hurts...I know we may have been outplayed but still could have won....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 9:48 pm EST
I am speechless. Just when you think you may see some growth by this bunch, again they are outworked and give game 2 away.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 9:47 pm EST
Un friggin believeable! But not really. Shit game by the Rangers, Debbies got away with a tone a cheap crap. Go figure!! Ugly
NYStranger
Wed May 16 2012 9:46 pm EST
They need some rest. Cant win them all. Night all
barto
Wed May 16 2012 9:45 pm EST
Fugggg
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 9:44 pm EST
clog the circle on the face off
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 9:41 pm EST
wow....2 non called penalties....such bulllshit
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 9:37 pm EST
Our rookie, Kreider has been the best player for the rangers. Proud but sad statement!
Tucc
Wed May 16 2012 9:37 pm EST
Well Gaborik didn't look any better....Lost a board battle to the midget Gionta....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 9:33 pm EST
Out worked and out skated tonight for most of the game.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 9:29 pm EST
Beating themselves.
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 16 2012 9:27 pm EST
Come on get one here....Make up for it Gaborik....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 9:22 pm EST
Gaborik should be sent to the lockeroom to rethink what he is doing out there.
E
Wed May 16 2012 9:22 pm EST
Hard to believe they come out asleep for the 3rd period. They simply refuse to do anything the easy way.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 9:20 pm EST
LET'S GO RANGERS
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 9:19 pm EST
is kreider the only guy the can pass and shoot on the f..ing team ! one ranger after another bobbling , wiffing shots , missing passes, and then throwing it out of their own offensive zone. brad richards should be on bench next to gaborik !!!!!!!!!!!
doct
Wed May 16 2012 9:19 pm EST
Gotta shoot the puck!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 16 2012 9:18 pm EST
The chickens are coming home to roost with Bickel. Gabby should be benched, his piss poor work on the half-boards helped the Devs get the second goal. Plenty of time to go though...LGR
RDW
Wed May 16 2012 9:17 pm EST
Not over....We can score again....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 9:17 pm EST
coach has at least 4 guys benched
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 9:17 pm EST
We can do this!!! cmon boys! get the equalizer
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 9:17 pm EST
Another wiff by a Rangers D
NYStranger
Wed May 16 2012 9:15 pm EST
They had these bastards on the ropes... Damnit!
Tucc
Wed May 16 2012 9:13 pm EST
Inability to clear the puck out of the defensive zone in key situations will NOT prove costly to this team. Not at all.
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 16 2012 9:10 pm EST
WTF.... The Rangers looked like they were Penalty Killing since the beginning of the Period.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 9:10 pm EST
Bickel is just too big of a liability....More than one chance to clear...
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 9:10 pm EST
Embarrassing....can't get the puck out of their own zone.
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 9:09 pm EST
Gaborik is benched
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 9:04 pm EST
Here we go!
NYStranger
Wed May 16 2012 9:04 pm EST
PJ... That would actually mean that Torts had to give the 4th Line MINUTES :)
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 9:02 pm EST
Our 4th line does not look bad and has some energy....AA also should be utilized in the third....Richards can come to life at any time and needs to in the third....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 9:02 pm EST
RF4L... The best thing about playing the Devils... NO PLANE FLIGHTS.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 9:01 pm EST
No doubt that kid should be called SPECIAL K
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 9:00 pm EST
Cally's been invisible offensively almost the entire POs so gotta figure he's hurt. BB's been invisible since coming back from his concussion. Tortorella needs to use the home ice advantage to get the number 1 line away from the Devils' 4th line (yeah, I know, how wrong is that?). Either that or short-shift the entire line, like he does almost everyone else when they are continually sucking (which the 1st line has in 5 periods so far - they along with Girardi look exhausted).
RF4L
Wed May 16 2012 9:00 pm EST
TOPOVSKI... http://streamo.net84.net/1.html
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 9:00 pm EST
Here's the good news: We have played like total crap except for the first 8 minutes of the second. Two shitty power plays actually ended up with goals. We are being outworked, outskated and outhit. That said; we are tied 2-2 with 20 minutes to go. Let's see if that legendary conditioning can pull us through one more time. I say yes! LGR!
DCIGolfer
Wed May 16 2012 8:58 pm EST
does anyone know if the game is being streamed?
Topovski
Wed May 16 2012 8:55 pm EST
NYStranger, Said that earlier...they need a bigger puck...Need our stars to wake the fug up
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 8:54 pm EST
Looking at Gaborik and Callahan, I think both guys are playing hurt... not to give them excuses, they just need to suck it up.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 8:51 pm EST
The first line is useless... they need to start double shifting KREIDER.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 8:50 pm EST
torts better fire up the haglin -richards - gaborik line , they are a liability right now !!!
doct
Wed May 16 2012 8:50 pm EST
Sit Gaborik on his arse for the remainder of the game. He does not belong on the ice with this bunch of hard working , hard hitting Rangers ! He is standing out for all the wrong reasons.
Newfie_Ranger
Wed May 16 2012 8:50 pm EST
Disappointing to go in tied. Bet that Gaborik rides pine for his inability to move the puck out. He has been a zero tonight.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 8:49 pm EST
the old clutch and debbie grab in full bloom....hand off stick should be a penalty when it's grabbing the other guy......
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 8:49 pm EST
Not liking how the puck is bouncing tonight. And how many whiffs are the Rangers going to make on passes and shots? WTF?
NYStranger
Wed May 16 2012 8:49 pm EST
The good news: The Rangers are up 1 game to zip and tied 2 - 2 in the second game. The bad news: The first line has been the worse line. The good news: They will wake up (although it may take Tortorella to break them up first).
RF4L
Wed May 16 2012 8:47 pm EST
That late goal just pisses me off to no end....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 8:45 pm EST
Pierre needs a surge to calm his excitement. He's such a douche.
barto
Wed May 16 2012 8:43 pm EST
Gaborik should be shot for that weak play...
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 8:38 pm EST
I retract my retraction...... KREIDER SCORESSSSS!!!!!
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 8:37 pm EST
THATS A K GOAL
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 8:37 pm EST
Kreider doesn't hit much but you can't move him...Big and very strong on his skates....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 8:35 pm EST
Rhet0ric, DITTO....Been saying that all along !!! Good job Kreider !!!!
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 8:35 pm EST
That puck was sitting on Richie RIch's shoulder like a parrot
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 8:34 pm EST
They gave it to Stralman... I can live with it :)
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 8:33 pm EST
It's a miracle what happens when you put someone in front of the net... I've wanted Kreider there for freaking forever.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 8:33 pm EST
needed that door rest..... A PP GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 8:32 pm EST
The Strawman!!!! It's a power play goal!
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 8:32 pm EST
SCOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE KKKKKKKKKKKKRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 8:31 pm EST
This is really goofy. There goes all the momentum we built up due to the stupid door not working.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 8:28 pm EST
The world's most worn out arena. How silly.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 8:27 pm EST
In all seriousness....WTF?????
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 16 2012 8:27 pm EST
Must be union guys. LOL
barto
Wed May 16 2012 8:27 pm EST
DeBoer complaining to Pierre about the officiating....Bite me....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 8:27 pm EST
The gods don't want to see another Ranger power play. Can you blame them?
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 16 2012 8:26 pm EST
The guy opening the door is blocking it with his foot.......LOL
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 8:24 pm EST
For Whom THe bells toll !! kick that fuckin door
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 8:24 pm EST
How many morons does it take to fix a door??? LOL
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 8:23 pm EST
AA just had a shift...
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 8:23 pm EST
Time for our awesome power play to strike again.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 8:23 pm EST
Bi-Polar for sure....Get one here....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 8:23 pm EST
Anyone know what Anisimov did?
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 8:15 pm EST
A POST-R
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 8:14 pm EST
It's still real early but have to love how this team battles and finds a way. Krieder's a winner
barto
Wed May 16 2012 8:13 pm EST
A LOT BETTER EFFORT
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 8:12 pm EST
Jesus H Kreider.....ohhhhh so close!! I wanted to see the Kreidechkin jump into the glass celebration
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 8:12 pm EST
Cali is going to score tonight..........LGR !!!
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 8:08 pm EST
Tort must stick hot pokers up their butts or something.....HUGE goal early !!!
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 8:07 pm EST
Get a load of fatso there....1-1
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 8:06 pm EST
Love how Richie Rich slowed down the power play once the debbies player had no stick....Brilliant!
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 8:06 pm EST
HUGE
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 8:02 pm EST
FM...I expected more life than this for sure....Dead on their feet so far.....LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 7:56 pm EST
BOB, What exactly did you expect? Pathetically sluggish, mindlessly clumsy, Keystone Cops kind of play? A total JOKE along the boards? A comical inability to clear the puck? I'll say it again: COMICAL? An even more comical attempt at playing with a man advantage, that often looks more like a disadvantage? If so, I can't argue, because as a fan, the albatross around my neck is the fact that I know this team is more than capable of creating something on the ice that isn't hockey at all; not even remotely resembling it. It's one thing to look flat. It's one thing to look flat at home in the Conference finals with a chance to put a 2-0 chokehold against a hated rival. But it's something else to do what this team did in that period....something I can't even define. I really, really have never seen anything like this. I love the Rangers and fuckin eh I hope they win, but if they do, this would be a unique championship to say the least.
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 16 2012 7:53 pm EST
I can't believe that McDonagh shot didn't go in... anyway... we just need one guy to get going that the rest of the team can feed off of... I don't care what TORTS says, this team is clearly tired... I would love to have MZA back right about now.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 7:51 pm EST
They Debbie's came hard and got one with help. The nyr have to come a lot harder They need to GIT R DONE
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 7:48 pm EST
Top: noticed the same interference on Girardi. More Devil BS that is endorsed by the refs. Rangers looked totaly lost in the 1st. No puck settlled down for a Ranger plus to slow. Ugly!!
NYStranger
Wed May 16 2012 7:47 pm EST
A horrible period....We are at home and have to carry the play....Richards invisible but that can change quick....Callahan just doesn't seem right to me....Our D will need to create some offense in this one....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 7:46 pm EST
Basically, I would guess that in between periods, Torts tells the team to go full out over the next 40 minutes and give everything they got because they will have an extra days rest on Friday....Lets see it in motion!
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 7:45 pm EST
Tort will get them going in the locker room. Whatever he does or says will light a fire under their asses for the 2nd. First period they needed a bigger puck cause they couldn't keep their sticks on this one.
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 7:41 pm EST
This is what I expected to start this game. The only wild card is them actually scoring on Hank.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 7:39 pm EST
Debbies playing like this is a Game 7....They know if they go down 2-0 in the series that it will probably be next to impossible to come back.
TradeStar28
Wed May 16 2012 7:37 pm EST
I hope they get their legs moving. Cant get down y a couple. LGR
barto
Wed May 16 2012 7:35 pm EST
I dont know if he would have gotten to Kovi but check out the interferance one of the devils had on Girardi who is trying to come to Kovi.
Topovski
Wed May 16 2012 7:35 pm EST
Yeah, pretty bad when you need your whole team to battle for the puck. At least two guys need to stay at center ice
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 7:35 pm EST
that penalty caused because the rangers refuse to get their heads up and not just try and bang it up the boards !! they had several opportunities to clear the zone - but insisted on trying to bang it past 3 devils and 2 rangers. play real hockey please !! it will be a long nite , devils just stacking the boards , rangers can't come out. rangers will have a 2 or 3 on 1 the first time they break out the middle !
doct
Wed May 16 2012 7:35 pm EST
Torts pissed and don't blame him....Rangers lethargic so far.....Huge game have to get going....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 7:34 pm EST
TIme for Calli to break this mini slump....LETS GO RANGERS!!
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 7:33 pm EST
Agreed....Stepan was totally lost on that kill....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 7:33 pm EST
They need to stay in their damn positions. THe spend so much time going East/West !
ajurso
Wed May 16 2012 7:33 pm EST
NEED TO KNOW WHERE KOVALPUKE IS ON A PP
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 7:30 pm EST
Gotta stay out of the box....First call a joke....
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 7:29 pm EST
Ugly looking game so far...
NYStranger
Wed May 16 2012 7:11 pm EST
Let's go boys. Get right on it.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 7:08 pm EST
Let's take control of this series! GO RANGERS!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 16 2012 7:08 pm EST
LRG!!!!!
NYStranger
Wed May 16 2012 6:59 pm EST
LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 6:49 pm EST
Slegs: Get belted in, we're gonna win tonight, expect you to continue the count-down! :->) Lets go Rangers!!!! Off to the bar !
mf
Wed May 16 2012 6:47 pm EST
mf I suggest the radio with Dave Maloney
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 6:35 pm EST
One Game at a time, we're gonna win The Cup this year...... Speak it into existence..... The words create the world...... Lets Go Raaaaaannnnggerrrrrsssss !!!!!!
mf
Wed May 16 2012 6:32 pm EST
Just about 30 minutes until kickoff.... You folks crack me up analyzing the announcers .... To hell with them all if they're not calling it from an unbiased point of view.... For all those who want to break the TV, kick the pooch, or punch someones lights out, may I suggest turning down the sound, turning on the classic rock (your choice of music, preferably GD, Who, Zepp, etc) smoke a joint (not me since 1982) or break open the beer & alcohol, Enjoy the game....:->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) Lets Go Rangers !!!!
mf
Wed May 16 2012 6:19 pm EST
I fully expect the Rangers to win tonight. No more of this winning every other day crap, We need to put the Devils to bed and rest up/heal up for the Cup Finals. Show these guys no respect! GO HARD OR GO HOME! Let's Go Rangers!
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 6:11 pm EST
TD... I have to agree with you... at his talent level, SEMIN is one of the most undisciplined hockey players out there (at his talent level)... he consistently takes penalties at the worst possible times... PARISE... Maybe if we eliminate the Devils in five, he'll come to the conclusion that their going no where with Brodeur and sign with us in the offseason... here's hoping.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 16 2012 5:58 pm EST
Off to the game and hopefully this Game 2 they win as the last one I was a (Wash) they lost, but the seats I am in tonight they did win back in November.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 16 2012 5:52 pm EST
ola- who couldn't take bickels place ?? he's only playing , what ? 3 - 6 minutes a game .. erickson certainly is capable of putting in more minutes than that . bickel is scared to do anything now- thanks to the handling of his minutes , and what happenes if he makes a minor mistake. again , if you were benched everytime you "broke the rules " gaborik and richards would never see the ice . we may never know if bickel can make up for his errors .
doct
Wed May 16 2012 5:00 pm EST
REXI: Yes I was yelling for them to go wraparound during Game 1.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 16 2012 5:00 pm EST
Get a load of Fatso over there.....So Fatso wants some of our players hurt does he...This type of thing has fired us up all year....The physical challenges of the Bruins, Flyers and Devils were all met in the regular season.....Let's take game 2 and give them something else to whine about....Let Chico and Kenny D suffer through another postgame.....LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Wed May 16 2012 4:14 pm EST
It was Liut, just checked.
Rexi29
Wed May 16 2012 4:09 pm EST
td - Didn't Al MacInnis paste some goalie in the mask with a slapper, knocking him out, and the puck came back down and banked off the prone goalie into the net? So something like that?
Rexi29
Wed May 16 2012 3:50 pm EST
Thanks Louie
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 3:03 pm EST
Oh what i wouldn't give for us to go up 2 games....be good for the nerves! Was wrong on Monday but I am going for it again......Prust is going to score tonight!
Fotiu22
Wed May 16 2012 3:03 pm EST
Rexi29 - As a hockey player, I never wish to see any fellow athlete injured...but in the case of Unca'D, the goal I would love to see is a ripping slapshot that rings off his mask, knocks him over into the net, and ricochets top shelf. Not sure how that angle would work, but would love to see someone ring Fatso's bell. Maybe even pull a Ryan Miller on him...
tdchi
Wed May 16 2012 2:45 pm EST
My-Toe-My-Toe-My-Toe!!!!!!!!
thedugster
Wed May 16 2012 2:19 pm EST
Does anyone else hope for a wrap-around goal against U.D. every time we play the Devils?
Rexi29
Wed May 16 2012 1:56 pm EST
Any questions?.....lol
thedugster
Wed May 16 2012 1:55 pm EST
LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs... gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs... gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs... gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs... gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs... gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs... gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs... gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs... gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs... gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!RaNgErS!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!RaNgErS!!!
thedugster
Wed May 16 2012 1:52 pm EST
Link for game: http://atdhe.eu/hockey
Louie
Wed May 16 2012 1:30 pm EST
I say on uncle daddy’s last shift let's put out Avery to send this POS into retirement the way he deserves. PS: good luck with two more years of alimony you family wrecker!
Jerry_Garcia
Wed May 16 2012 12:53 pm EST
Need a link for tonight's game
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 12:33 pm EST
Give uncle daddy a night out with avery
stevielegs
Wed May 16 2012 12:25 pm EST
TD: I'm totally offended...I think I just inadvertantly joined the clueless jackass brigade!
RF4L
Wed May 16 2012 12:12 pm EST
BTW(and no offense RF4L)...I've read and said some pretty ridiculous things on the site in the 14-plus years I've been milling about here(damn that sounds long)...but inquiring whether the Rangers might have any interest in SEMIN...much less SIGNING that worthless POS has to rank among the most ridiculous thoughts I've ever seen here...He's incompatible in just about every way with this team...Forget the fact that he's Russian and plays like a Russian...that he's soft...that he's expensive...that he's an enigma...and you still have the fact that he doesn't produce nearly what he's going to want to make, and that's well in excess of $4 million...I don't doubt he'll find some team stupid enough to for over that kind of cash. I'm not convinced it will be in the NHL...but if it is, it certainly won't be the Rangers...I have more faith that they'll sign PARISE than Semin...which is to say I have none at all...Frankly, I don't know how any team could watch his performance in this year's playoffs...and last year's playoffs..and the season before last year's playoffs...and still want him...One hapless shitbag organization I could see tossing him a low-ball offer would be PITTSBURGH, in their never-ending quest to find a winger. But I'm not sure they could even fit him under the cap. I would rather bring FROLOV back than even sniff at Semin. And that's not to say I want Frolov here.
tdchi
Wed May 16 2012 12:07 pm EST
TDCHI - Good take on Uncle Daddy, I agree.... lets send him to his retiremeint crying, whining and losing...
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 12:02 pm EST
E: I respect your opinion! What I see is when the league finally changed to rules that allowed more tough shots on goal Fatso's career went down the toilet. He now is a below average goalie in a league where goalies actually have to make hi scoring shot saves. This was obvious in the 2010 winter Olympics, Canada needed a goalie that can make great saves on hi probability scoring shots and the Sister banger looked like a sive and a disgrace to Canada! They dumped him in a NY minute. My opinion is he did not earn it. His claim to fame is his ability to make great saves on bad angle outside shots. Thank God that is over! LGR!
Jerry_Garcia
Wed May 16 2012 12:01 pm EST
E/Hospo - F@CK Uncle Daddy...
tdchi
Wed May 16 2012 11:48 am EST
HOSPO: we should have no delusions about the NJD. They will be back, and disciplined. They will make adjustments and they will play well tonight. The NYR will have to weather the storm. But in game-1 the NYR were just better when it mattered. That 2nd period though they were all over the NYR.
E
Wed May 16 2012 11:45 am EST
E - Good take on Uncle Daddy, I agree..But lets send him to his retiremeint crying, whining and losing...
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 11:42 am EST
JERRY: with no disrespect that is ridiculous. Broduer may have played on great teams but as the last line of defense he has been routinely incredible. He came up money year after year. Lundqvist is an outstanding goaltender who has HOF skill level. He also has a great team in front of him. Certainly team dive in front of every puck has helped but when called upon he has routinely made outrageous saves. Wanna say that the NJD mastered the clutch and grab? They did. And in that era the copycat league tried to repeat their successful style. Noone was going, "oh the Devils suck, we aren't going to play like that because we want to make a point." Every team wanted to win. The reality was that the NJD were better at playing within the rules of the time. Marty was still called upon and he did deliver. The stats talk and the BS walks. It's still a goalie league and Broduer delivered. That stated, I respect his arrogance. He backed it up. I hate him. He is a NJD. In the same way I received crap for respecting Giroux. He is arrogant but he backs it up. I hate him because he is a Flyer. You earn the right to talk crap as I see it. Broduer earned it and while you think that his stats are inflated because of the team he played for? He back stopped a winner and was a wall when called upon. Now I hope we punch him full of holes and send him into afterlife with the Blueshirt in his face. A proper end to his career... But don't reduce his accomplishment, he earned it.
E
Wed May 16 2012 10:25 am EST
Brodeur’s statistics only happened not because of his goaltending ability but because of the trap deployed by the Debbies for 10 solid years. How many shutouts did he himself actually do something to obtain. A monkey could be in nets back then and do the same thing! What a blow hard!
Jerry_Garcia
Wed May 16 2012 10:22 am EST
RF4L : Regarding the comments, for Brodeur to even say that means the Devils are already worrying about it..I don't think it changes the game, but it's agood thing....The Rangers know if they don't block shots, they don't play...
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 10:14 am EST
Re Brodeur: Still a decent goalie, once a great goalie, but for years full of himself. As recently as 2010 winter Olympics, when he got the number 1 goalie spot handed to him and promptly lost it on his own, he was blaming his teammates (he let in 2 lousy goals and after the game, inferred Canada struggled not because of him, but because their offense wasn't good enough). What a nob.
RF4L
Wed May 16 2012 10:12 am EST
Gents: I highly doubt the Rangers will do anything different about their shot-blocking strategy tonight. I too, think it's simply talk to try to reverse what the Devils are feeling about that tactic, although that by no means excuses it. Like I said earlier, the fall-out will likely be nasty if inadvertantly (or not) a Ranger player takes a puck high tonight. That's really the stupidity of Brodeur's comments - he's now set up the fall-out if that happens with his silly arrogant (and that fat phucker is VERY arrognat) prattling.
RF4L
Wed May 16 2012 9:56 am EST
JFC - Exactly. The key to every series for the Rangers is simple...consistently play disciplined, responsible, tough, gutty, opportunistic hockey..They played that more often than not i the first two series and won..Same thing will happen this series unless they change their game (or forced to)
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 9:56 am EST
Is it true Brodeur was caught screwing his wife sister, while he had 3 kids? Also did the courts award his wife alimony in the range of $4 mil per year until 2014. He is done after this tear. What a scum bag! BTW Debbies running scared and trying anything they can (via the media) to get any advantage they can because they know they need it badly. Sorry swamp morons this is only going to give the Rangers more reason to beat you knuckle heads. Doc sucks Chico-Chi-Chi weenie. Doc, just one time try walking around inside MGS by yourself during a game please! Just one time!
Jerry_Garcia
Wed May 16 2012 9:53 am EST
TUCC - Exactly...Again, I think it's just idle talk but if not, the Rangers are in their heads after one game and that is a great thing..If it makes them change their strategy already, even better.....KIS - Like I said earlier, I think the Devils will be hitting and forechecking everything in sight, but I don't fisticuffs will be on their agenda.....That happens after they go down 2-0....
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 9:50 am EST
All this talk about blocking shots, hitting players with pucks....all of it is GREAT for the NY Rangers. As Hospo pointed out, it means that the RAngers are now firmly ensconsed in the psyche of the Devs D-men and forwards. They now join Marty, who already is psyched out by The King. The Rangers need to do what they have been doing all year....be CONSISTANT, change nothing. The Devils are already skating on thin ice....one of my keys to the series was the possibility of Brodeur falling apart. If the rest of the Devs want to join him, all the better. If the Rangers manage to take it to the Devs quickly tonight, they WILL resort to dirty stuff....it will be the same pattern followed by the Coyotes last night....the Devs will realize that they are in BIG trouble, they will panic, get frustrated, take stupid, dirty penalties and then collapse under the weight of their own stupidity. One can only hope.....that would be sooooo fun to watch!
JFC31
Wed May 16 2012 9:46 am EST
Brodeur... what a buffoon. Like this asshole should be commenting on anything related to the game when his piece of crap Devils teams single-handidly turned the NHL into the La Brea Tar Pit!!! Can we make short work of this jackass and finally send him into retirement????
Tucc
Wed May 16 2012 9:44 am EST
Rangers and especially Torts needs to be ready for cheap shit and some fisticuffs from the Devs. tonight. If they start it tonight I hope the Rangers kick their ass and than add the win on top of it. Don't provide hope for the Devs
KIS
Wed May 16 2012 9:40 am EST
Hospo: Agreed, 100%. The silly thing with all of this is what happens if by accident, a Ranger takes a shot high/near the face? You know everyone will think it's deliberate and things could unravel in a very nasty way as a result. Brodeur talks waaaay too much. If you gotta prattle on like that you big French moron, go prattle on to your ex-wife about how wonderful her sister is.
RF4L
Wed May 16 2012 9:38 am EST
Semin is a RW. Torts would play him after Gabby and Cally. The only role we could offer him is 3rd line RW, 12 minutes per night. I think Semin will be as good as the team he plays for. The kid is not all bad, like he got some brains in him unlike a Zherdev. Or to put it like that, he CAN play a fundamentally solid game of hockey. Zherdev couldn't do it. But Semin does not do it all the time. If he goes to like NJ, I think he would be a good player for them. Or Detroit or whatever. But for lesser teams, I think he would be just more of the same.
Ola
Wed May 16 2012 9:36 am EST
BTW, shooting at heads aside, I strongly suspect the Devils will come out very hard tonight - they'll be dumping the puck in deep and chasing it down with vigor, looking to pound the Ranger D as visciously as possible. I also think the King is going to have a ton of traffic in front of him and if despite all of that, the Rangers get a lead, the King will be run. Probably more than once. I sure hope Tortorella and company are aware and are preparing their troops!
RF4L
Wed May 16 2012 9:32 am EST
RF4L - After one game they are already a bunch of whiny, sniveling babies...Are they that frustrated already after one real PO game? Honestly, I think it just might be talk to give the rangers something to chew on becasue they will get shut out every game that way....But, if they do, two can play that way..Clears and shots go at Parise's and Kovulchuk's face...hard...
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 9:29 am EST
How interesting, not to mention ironic, that in the 04 POs, a Pavel Kubina slapshot nailed Devil dman Scott Stevens in the head and after the game Danyeko accused Kubina of deliberating doing it and Unc Dad agreed. Geesh...
RF4L
Wed May 16 2012 9:26 am EST
Maybe it was mentioned on here, but I didn't see it: Apparently, Unc Dad was musing about his teammates purposely countering the Rangers penchant for shotblocking by 'hitting one-timers in the foot and their head or something.' Really? Maybe someone should run that over the hill fat ass in the eye or something. What a complete moron, coming in the heals of all that NFL fall-out for giving out prizes for deliberate injuries. Of course, this being the NHL, nothing will be done...LBs' article today is about that and apparently making things worse is the fact that yesterday the Devils were actually discussing it. Geesh...wonder if LB stills wet-dreams about the Devils now?
RF4L
Wed May 16 2012 9:26 am EST
SCREW NASH!! SCREW SEMIN and especially SCREW PARISE!! The only one of the three that matters...The Rangers D and the KING need to stay in Parise's addled head.....TOnight's game, I think, will be alot like the 2nd game of the SENS SERIES..Not the gooning attack, but after not being able to forecheck and hit in the first game, I t hink the Devils will be going all out and hitting and forechecking everything in sight....The King will be Huge..and hopefully the Ranges find the holes and areas that the Devils leave wide open....Guys like Kreider, Gabby and Hagelin with their speed may be able to take advantage if we can handle or mute the forecheck like the last game..Should be interesting
Hospo
Wed May 16 2012 9:20 am EST
Bob.., I was on the Parise boat but am quickly changing my tune. The "Devil" thing just doesn't sit well. Not to mention, as was pointed out to me yesterday, the guy is gonna command ALOT of $. I would like Nash more than any other but the Columbus folks are just delusional. Semin is not a terrible idea, imo.
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 16 2012 9:17 am EST
My boy KIS is still real high on Nash. Semin is obviously "high risk/high reward" catagory. Sather takes shots on guys like this if the price is right. Is he better than Zherdev? The Rangers could use a skill player like this in the line-up if he could "buy in" ala Gabby.
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 16 2012 9:16 am EST
Forget Semin. Sign Parise.
Bob
Wed May 16 2012 9:06 am EST
With that said, I am sure Sather will kick the tires, if the Rangers can get him on the cheap for a decent term (and I mean cheap for a Semin type player) it would be an interesting conversation....I am torn with it...he wasn't surrounded by players or coaches that would make him play "right" so I think he would be a little better than his time in Washington, but still, its a scary proposition
Wildcard
Wed May 16 2012 8:58 am EST
My first thought is that Semin could never play for a guy like Torts, but when you think about it, if there is a coach that could get him working, Torts would be one of them, along with the players on the team, it would be hard to NOT play like a Ranger....there is something similar with the New England Patriots, they can bring in guys who are known for their off the field crap and on the field antics, and they end up towing the line. HOWEVER...unless something in the new CBA makes it less risky, its too much of a chance to take. If he wanted 1 year to prove himself than I would say take the chance, but he wants long term. In fact, I doubt he would want to come to NY due to Torts, Semin doesn't want to block shots and work hard at both ends....
Wildcard
Wed May 16 2012 8:49 am EST
Alex Semin is a lazy, slacker and would serve no purpose here and he is very expensive........this guy is a joke and a bum..
thedugster
Wed May 16 2012 8:40 am EST
Any chance this survey "person" is a Devs fan looking to sell tickets? Any means necessary I guess since if you're Devs fan you "have been warned" not to sell tickets to anyone other than another Devs fan. Too funny! There is sooo.. much non-sense being put out for consumption right now about this Series. Pretty much ALL anti-Ranger btw.
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 16 2012 8:37 am EST
Felt really confident after and before game 1 today not so much. To many people fans and writers just thinking the Rangers going to win and starting to make it sound like the Devs don't have an answer. This is going to be a very tough series.
KIS
Wed May 16 2012 8:35 am EST
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/H2QRMNL http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/H28X2S3 please take these surveys, its about sports, and money, and what you would do with tht money (sports related) dont worry its not a scam, its just for school, so please take two minutes and take them please GO RANGERS
kristenc288
Wed May 16 2012 8:29 am EST
no interest in Semin. don't think he fits into Ranger scheme
KIS
Wed May 16 2012 7:50 am EST
Alex Semin's agent has indicated that his client is basically finished in Washington, but not looking to play anywhere but the NHL. It will be interesting to see where he ends next year. A great talent, but for sure an enigma. He'd be an instant upgrade to the Rangers top 6 forwards, but could he play under Tortorella?
RF4L
Wed May 16 2012 7:50 am EST
john- Welcome! Dubinsky will play when he gets back and Zucc could get a chance if there is a opening. None of the other kids will play, or replace Bickel, unless someone is hurt basically (or unless Bickel really starts to screw up on a regular basis). Erixon is first in line and he is just not ready. Or maybe he would turn out to be ready if he got a chance to play 20 minutes a night. McD and Sauer really stepped up in that role last season, despite being forced to hang on for their dear lifes at times, they still got the job done. But Erixon is not built for 10 minutes a night of PO hockey and its waaaay to risky, to try him in a bigger role. And any D currently having a bigger role right now, is undoubtedly better than him anyway. Its the same with the forwards basically.
Ola
Wed May 16 2012 7:16 am EST
I live in Kentucky and catch about 60-65 Rangers games on Center Ice and live at an odd game here and there. I don't get the inside stuff, so I wondered if you see any of the latest call-ups getting any playoff ice time. Erixon for Bickel, who will definitely be needed for Kings series, is a possibility. I don't see a forward unless an injury opens it up for Newberry. I just can't see Torts sending a pair of just-signed rookie forwards on the ice. Kreider scares hiim half to death as it is. I have to confess I was a beat writer for the New Orleans Saints when Mora was there. I thought Mora was a pain until I watched Torts. I never covered hockey, so it's the one sport I can watch as a fan. Seen games in the old Meadownlands, old Yankee Stadium and Shea Sewer. Dream is to make to the Garden for a game then follow it up with a viewing party. Maybe next year.
bjohn18x
Wed May 16 2012 6:25 am EST
I wouldnt not Throw Dubi away- If I couldnt get something really good for him I think he deserves another chance as we all know what he is capable of and Im sure he will rebound and he is a good team player. His upside is worth another chance IMHO. The Kings look really good and Phonix looks bad, They are doing stupid things like Smiths swing on the legs,,,reminded me of Billy Smith,,,,Phoenix is toast and LA will be tough----tonight I expect the Debbies to come out flying for 10 minutes,,if we can keep them off the board they will get frustrated and will open up and we can put pucks on Marty and he will let a few in.....same grinding type of game,,,,,,,LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!
thedugster
Wed May 16 2012 6:07 am EST
Topo- LA is "mean" and really got under PHX skin. Brown and Richards will challenge the other team, but those new depth players they have, Nolan, King and co, are pretty dirty. I saw a real ugly spear from Nolan on Boedker in G1 and so forth.
Ola
Wed May 16 2012 1:19 am EST
How worried of the Flyers levrege on the league should we be, if there is a amnesty buy-out period in the new CBA???
Ola
Wed May 16 2012 12:47 am EST
No doubt LA is playing really well, but, Phoenix took too many penalties (2 major) and had to play 3 on 5 way too many times. I am sure that the frustration level is high for them but clearly LA is much better and more disciplined.
Topovski
Wed May 16 2012 12:34 am EST
I'm not sure that PHX is imploding more then LA is laying on the good ole ass whoopin. LA is faster and harder on pucks, dominating the boards, and are basically a deep team peaking right now. You go up and down their lineup and they are strong. But right now they are just taking it to PHX in such a manner that I think that PHX has an answer. LA has got to be the odds on favorite at this point.
E
Tue May 15 2012 11:56 pm EST
Phoenix is playing like the penguins did against the flyers - self destructing !
Topovski
Tue May 15 2012 11:44 pm EST
CHIN... The Kings are looking scary good right now, but I've got to wonder if the Coyotes are playing any type of defense at all... Smith made 44 saves in Game 1 and 36 saves tonight... those are some crazy numbers.... I think I can safely say they wont be getting that many shots against us(if we make it to the finals).
Rhet0ric
Tue May 15 2012 11:14 pm EST
Kings are scary right now. Aside from the great goaltending and solid D they've had all year, they're scoring consistently now. Their size up front is tough to deal with.
chinstrap
Tue May 15 2012 11:08 pm EST
Can't stand Emrick. I hate that he does all the national Rangers games. Makes me sick to hear his shrill voice go up 5 octaves on every hohum shot or play. He calls the wrong names and uses stupid made up phrases, so much so if you are not careful they start to become a distraction. Plus I hate him because he is a Devil guy through and through. Chico is a clown and a sideshow. He makes himself look foolish to the point that heis entertaining in the way a car crash at the Indy 500 is entertaining.
NYStranger
Tue May 15 2012 10:29 pm EST
JMO, I think EMRICK is behind the play a lot... he quite often doesn't describe the actual action that's going on... I also don't care for his total Ranger bias, he actually makes me appreciate Sam Rosen... I'd rather listen to Kenny Albert... BOB... I agree, the Lightning guys are very good... BRIAN2D... I know it's the team that makes the decision, but IMO, there were guys that were more deserving... Hagelin or Anismov are guys that really give their all every night and don't get enough as much recognition for what they do... even when they don't score, they bring a lot to the table.
Rhet0ric
Tue May 15 2012 9:24 pm EST
Emrick is fine on PBP. He has his own phrases, but so do others and his have been adopted by a lot of the younger guys. I like John Forslund of the Hurricanes, and Kenny Albert does a nice job too. Rick Peckham from Tampa is also good when not doing a Lightning game. Glad we don't have to suffer through Beninati anymore. Would be nice if we can double down and take it tomorrow night. Going to Newark up 2 would be very good.
Bob
Tue May 15 2012 8:26 pm EST
Don't like Doc doing Ranger games ever but he is a very good play by play guy in my opinion....It really sucks not getting MSG coverage of these games...
PJ
Tue May 15 2012 8:02 pm EST
I never really hated Doc...usually hated his side man more. However, now I hate Doc. Hate everything about his performance, notwithstanding his naked bias. Rosen schools him, anyday, by any standard, today, ten years ago, any time.
FerociousMonk94
Tue May 15 2012 7:43 pm EST
For your pleasure: The Best Empire State of Mind Parody - Newark State of Mind - Jay-Z Alicia Keys http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4U7kuqow3gg
Louie
Tue May 15 2012 7:37 pm EST
josh29..On another site it was said that "chico" suggested that debbie players run Hank. The guy is a pure POS. It was also said that the debbie org. didn't want thier season ticket owners selling their tickets where Ranger fans could get their hands on them.
Louie
Tue May 15 2012 6:58 pm EST
Rhet- The team picks it...I think it was more a team thing to show their appreciation for all he's done for the team after a rough night, which I'm sure he was aware of. There are other accolades for purely performance, this broadway hat was not just about performance IMO.
Brian2d
Tue May 15 2012 6:33 pm EST
I'm not sure why Girard got the Broadway hat last night, he was brutal the first half of the game... If not for a pair of brilliant saves by McDonagh on a pair of turnovers and another nifty save made by Lundqvist on another turnover, we could've easily been down 3-0 by the end of the 2nd Period, due solely to him.... he's been very up and down in the Playoffs... have to give Brodeur some props... every time he faces Lundqvist in a game, he always tells anyone that will listen that the KING is the best goalie in the League... That shows a bit of class in my book... RF4L/OLA/TD... Bruce Garrioch reported first that the Rangers final offer was Brandon Dubinsky, Tim Erixon, JT Miller and two first round picks... he also said that Columbus would not get off of MDZ and other players and that's when talks ended... Aaron Portzline came out after the fact and said the blue Jackets never seriously considered the Rangers offer but were considering a third parties offer (which was also rumored to be a team that was not on Nash's trade approval list)... Weeks after the deadline, Larry Brooks wrote that the Rangers final offer for Rick Nash was Brandon Dubinsky, Tim Erixon, JT Miller, Christian Thomas and a first round pick... Brooks also wrote that Columbus was after a package that included either Ryan McDonagh or Michael Del Zotto, Derek Stepan or Carl Hagelin, Chris Kreider and Brandon Dubinsky... Both writers said that Kreider was off the table from the very beginning but that Columbus started asking for him again at the deadline... which says to me that Columbus really had not intention of moving him by the deadline... LEOS... First off, Welcome... post more often... "Emerick getting praise from Wallsters" ...was that a typo? I don't think I've seen anyone say anything positive about that dusch... it's been pure torture having to listen to his propaganda while watching our team... it's like we're watching two completely different game... I would relish the team winning the cup and him having to call it. It would be his worst nightmare.
Rhet0ric
Tue May 15 2012 6:28 pm EST
E: I guess it comes down to a matter of opinions and styles. Personally, I would take EMERICK over BENINATI anytime and I don't even like EMERICK. I just can't stand BENINATI.
Vic
Tue May 15 2012 6:22 pm EST
There are few GREAT play-by-play guys in hockey out there. Beninati's and Hahn's don't grow on trees. I would gladly trade either of these guys for Sam Rosen at this point. But for all the nitpicking you can do, Doc is definitely in the top 3rd of the game. Is he perfect? Not really. Plus, nowadays like Rosen the years are beginning to pile up. But I don't hate Doc by any stretch of the imagination. I thought for years some of his most brilliant moments were killed by Chico who might be the worst color guy out there besides Joe Micheletti. But I think part of what makes a good color guy is the ability to catch the emotion of the game. Doc doesn't get the names down all of the time, but thats all nitpicking. I wish we could get Beninati tomorrow. He is awesome. As for Hahn? I have been listening to him call games for a while and he is just far and away the best in the business.
E
Tue May 15 2012 6:01 pm EST
Rangers are have a viewing party at MSG on Monday for Game 4. Tickets are free through ticketmaster.
DOUBLEN
Tue May 15 2012 5:31 pm EST
LeoS: I agree with the points you made, however, what bugs me about "Doc" is that he announces like he's on the radio. I don't need him to tell me every little thing that happens because I am watching it. Half the time he's out of breath because he can't keep up with the play.
RDW
Tue May 15 2012 5:13 pm EST
Leo-excellent post. I couldn't agree with you more. You should post more often.
NCRanger
Tue May 15 2012 4:26 pm EST
OK, I'm one of the Wall's uber-lurkers, but seeing Emerick getting praise from Wallsters has spurred me into posting. Why "Doc" is awful: (1) He' s terrible at identifying players - go ahead, try making a college-style drinking game out of how many times he mis-calls who's out there; you'll be blacked out before the 3rd period. (2) his infuriatingly useless call "It would not go". Aaaargh, tell us what happened (save, deflected wide, blocked, missed, whatever), not some catch-all I-didn't-see-it phrase. (3) He, along with Gary Thorne, pioneered the phrase "Cleared! but not out." and therefore, Not Cleared. Idiot(s). Even if he wasn't a flagrant Ranger-hater, he's just a subpar announcer who occasionally turns a nice phrase. OK, got that off my chest :) Love the Wall and how regularly you all echo my gametime thoughts. LGR!
LeoS
Tue May 15 2012 3:50 pm EST
And, btw, just busting balls about the Offseason talk....Just not something I can get inot right now..
Hospo
Tue May 15 2012 3:42 pm EST
Did the season end last night? If not, what the hell is all this Poppycock (in honor of DESPO) about trades and next year...SCREW that....You gotta just love a New York Ranger team coming of two consecutive GAMES 7s and DESTROYING, according to all the haters and experts, an unbeatbale, well-rested,defensively sound, forechecking machine and offensive juggernaut in the 3rd period..What a freakibng period the Rangers played....Yes, the Devils took it to them in the 2nd after a wishy washy 1st, but what the "fatigued" Rangers did in the third was amazing...........That being said, I still think it could be a long series.....The Devils didn't or couldn't hit or forecheck much last night so tomorrow will be interesting.....Love the sout pusses on almos t all the expert thogh some like Weeks and Jaffe On the NHL network and Melrose gave the Rangers the credit they deserved...But according to Bozos klike Burnside, who have to justify their picks and biases, it was all The King....Not even close but, that being said, The KIng was awesome in the 2nd period.............ANd, I know i'm in the minority, but TORTS has handled KREIDER well from Day 1...TOrt's job is to win..and if he felt limiting Kreider's ice time in the 2nd half of the closer (in more ways than one)Cap series and letting him play last more last night was the thing to do, I'm totally fine with it and, more importantly,. might have been the right think to do...More open ice against the Devils...He plays smart, he will play alot...
Hospo
Tue May 15 2012 2:58 pm EST
First, I've got to say it's WAAAY too premature to talk changes...second...I think a lot of you forget where the Rangers were a year ago and how unbelievably far they've come in just 12 short months...A year ago, we were singing praises of McDONAGH, but not to the degree we are now...A year ago, we had no RICHARDS...A year ago, HAGELIN had played five inconsequential games as a member of the Whale. A year ago, DEL ZOTTO was in the AHL and many here didn't think he was ever coming back. A year ago, some of us were wondering whether KREIDER was yet another blown first-round pick...A year ago, people were maligning GIRARDI as “Girlardi”...A year ago, most of us didn't even know who BICKEL was and even more of us didn't care...Now pan to the present...aside from Richards, none of the players I mentioned were summer acquisitions. They were grown right here in this system. Aside from Richards and Stralman, the Rangers really didn't change much. And I don't think they're going to need to change much going into the future if they continue to draft smart and let these kids develop gradually in the AHL and juniors...someone was mentioning earlier about why ERIXON wasn't being thrust into the mix because of Bickel's shortcomings...well, I'm sure there are several reasons...but the main would is probably because they realize Erixon's not ready for the pressure...Now before we go trading away this player or importing that player, I'd much rather see them stay the course and let some of the young guys in-fill positions that are coming available...the last thing I want is to see talented kids like Hagelin and Kreider relegated to the third line because some over-age free agent or bloated-salary winger comes in.
tdchi
Tue May 15 2012 2:53 pm EST
Tdchi- Brooks reported McD/MDZ, Stepan/Hagelin, Dubinsky, Kreider and a 1st. FIVE very valuable assets. Five. Three could have fooled me. Who am I say that Howson wouldn't have asked for like MDZ AND Stepan. But that FIVE asset deal is a joke, nobody even remotely reported an asking price like that before the deadline. You think Slats negotiate to the last second I that's the assets bing discussed lol?
Ola
Tue May 15 2012 2:46 pm EST
Black Aces ranks swelling. New tweet (legal until Francesa has his way): The #NYR have officially recalled G Cam Talbot, D Tim Erixon & Dylan McIlrath, and F JT Miller, Kris Newbury & Casey Wellman from @CTWhale
Rexi29
Tue May 15 2012 1:40 pm EST
What A GREAT Win last night. Ryan McDonagh was outstanding as was all the Rangers DEFENSE. DEFENSE WINS Championships! LETS GO RAIN-JUHS!!!!!
Jerry_Garcia
Tue May 15 2012 1:14 pm EST
The Whale has released ANDREW YOGAN and STEVE MOSES from their ATOs. Too bad about MOSES - really liked what I saw from him, but there is just no room.
Dineen11
Tue May 15 2012 12:57 pm EST
Can't keep talking about the games. I'm getting tired even though it shouldn't be an issue at this time of year?
KIS
Tue May 15 2012 12:53 pm EST
What's wrong with you people? A 1-0 lead in the conference finals and you're talking about trades? Let's go Rangers!
Brian2d
Tue May 15 2012 12:24 pm EST
Cannot rework a contract under the CBA. Who knows what will be in the next CBA as the old one expires on 9/15.
DOUBLEN
Tue May 15 2012 12:24 pm EST
look at the bruins with Horton and without. That one guy can make a BIG difference
KIS
Tue May 15 2012 12:21 pm EST
no dubi for Iggy. It is going to take the right type of player to play with this group. If you trade Dubi for a person making more money it wouldn't be Iggy. I think Nash is almost perfect. Its like when the Yankees got Knoblach. That guy fit in perfectly to that team and they one a couple championships. It could also be like when Barcalona got rid of Samuel Eto and brought in Ibrahimovic. Ibra was a great striker but couldn't perform at Barca just wasn't a good fit. Went back milan an started scoring again.
KIS
Tue May 15 2012 12:11 pm EST
PA/EZ: I dont think the parties can rework contracts.... Not sure why, but i bet some of the guys & NN on here know more about it.....
mf
Tue May 15 2012 12:03 pm EST
Bring back Pavel Brendl!
rangerfan2000
Tue May 15 2012 12:01 pm EST
mf..,I'll throw this at you and please keep in mind, I am indeed a clueless jack-ass when it comes to contract stuff. Trade Dubi for JA straight up on the condition he re-works his contract. Is that feasible?
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 15 2012 11:52 am EST
KIS: would you trade Dubi for Iginla?
mf
Tue May 15 2012 11:42 am EST
absolutely no interest in either parise (to small and a devil) or Iginla. (he makes to much is to old and I wouldn't trade anything for him except redden)
KIS
Tue May 15 2012 11:15 am EST
pa/ez: there are tapes on the internet on how this guy trains in the offseason..... He's ripped, tough as nails, knows how to score, plays the RW, forces Cally to the 3rd line (where he belongs) .....my oversight though: He's on the books for 7mill next year & then UFA, so thats an issue.... I'd sill trade Dubi, a prospect & a pick if need be, for him.....
mf
Tue May 15 2012 10:44 am EST
mf.., 35 in July and listed as a LW. Does he play the right side? Did pot 32 goals this Season I believe.
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 15 2012 10:39 am EST
pa/ez: Call me crazy, but I want us to go after Iginla in the offseason.... Me thinks he comes at a reasonable contract, & leaves us options......
mf
Tue May 15 2012 10:39 am EST
wild/mf.., good stuff fellas. Damn, Strallman only 25. Definitly fits the mold of that young D. I'm also in on Bickel. I like what Stu brings to the table.
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 15 2012 10:36 am EST
mf.., 10/4. Just trying to perhaps peer ahead a bit. If this Club is this good now, damn, with a bit of tweeking?
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 15 2012 10:35 am EST
pa/ez: our defence has something like 9 goals in the PO's, more than any other team, I think Strallman has 3 of them... IMO, he will be better next year than this.... The guy is 25,5 and is earning 900K per..... He's a keeper.........http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8471873
mf
Tue May 15 2012 10:35 am EST
pa: Like I said Ftank only if they move a couple guys and there are no UFAs who are right and or willing to play for the right amount of money. He is at least a know commodity, and really as the 13th forward is what I am thinking more about.
Wildcard
Tue May 15 2012 10:31 am EST
http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=22 .......... Some points on cap space for next year: Avery gone ($1.9375) Drury's hit reduced by $2,050,000, thats almost 4 mill....... If you trade Dubi, you have 8mill to sign a big contract..... ie: Weber, Suter, Parise, Nash... Redden comes off the books 2 seasons after this one........ Great win last night!
mf
Tue May 15 2012 10:12 am EST
Wild.., my bad on Biron, didn't check goalies. Prust is making $800,000 this Season so fig. he will get up to at least 1mil. I would hope Sather doesn't go any higher for a 4th line guy. For me, I have no interest in FTank part 3. Strallman, hmmm..on the fence there. He has done a decent job but for his money, perhaps a more physical-type vet to fill the 7 spot? The RFA's are a given. I personally like AA alot and see him as the 3rd line LW in my perfect world with Step and Cally. Dubi is my bait perhaps to get a legit 2nd centre. Obviously WAY ahead of what's really goin' on but, tbh, I don't want to discuss the game. I'm already in Game 2 mode. Just win baby!
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 15 2012 10:02 am EST
pa: looks about right. But i am almost certain Biron is a UFA as well....and i am almost sure he is a year to year guy now. But yeah, Prust is the only UFA that I want back, I mean, MAYBE a couple other guys as extras so younger guys can stay in CT, and only IF other UFAs of the same type are not better....and a lot of that depends on what Torts thinks of these guys. Its the RFAs in MZA and MDZ and perhaps Strallman who II wouldn't mind getting back into the fold. Strallman will be cheap again, and good insurance if a young guy isn't ready.or Sauer isn't back healthy. He has done a decent job for not too much cap hit, and finding another guy like that may not be that easy. Ftank is another maybe, especially if there are moved made ala Dubi or AA for another center(or both for a center) he is not a bad player and plays the style the Rangers need to win. But again, only if moves are made and other UFAs will not do better or are asking for far too much.
Wildcard
Tue May 15 2012 9:49 am EST
Did some Ranger UFA research. Feel free to correct my findings: Emminger,Woywit..,Bell, Prust, Mitchell, Deveaux, Newbury, Avery, Fedotnk.. Total $'s - 7,800,000. Other than Prust, really?
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 15 2012 9:47 am EST
Good morning! Love all the sour grapes coming from the media after our win last night. Couldn't take the thought of watching the NBC coverage last night, so I turn to MSG for the post-game and what do I see....Ken Daneyko looking like his dog just died. LOL! And this morning, I'm driving into work listening to NHL Center Ice on XM and I hear a sound bite from Marty....they asked him what he thought about The King's performance and he says, "Well, I only got to see about 10 minutes of his game....I couldn't see him because there were so many Rangers in front of him!" What a dick!
JFC31
Tue May 15 2012 9:39 am EST
PJ "My god now we get Chico on the MSG postgame....Saying Stepan bumped Fatso on the Girardi goal...They show the replay and he never touched him..." Even BRODEUR, when asked, said he wasn't bumped on that goal. Chico complimented Brodeur on downplaying it because he obviously WAS bumped. Hysterical. I wonder if all of Broderu's "iI'm-the-underdog-Hank-is-the-best" talk got in the heads of his own players, making them think Hank is unbeatable... or even just hesitating on a shot to try to out-think him.
josh29
Tue May 15 2012 9:22 am EST
Gordie Clark quote regarding the Non-Nash trade..“They were asking for so bloody much. As I said in the [war] room, ‘Jeez, Columbus wants to give us Nash, but they want us to look like Columbus when we get him.’”
DOUBLEN
Tue May 15 2012 9:22 am EST
I love this kid Kreider he even puts himself on the spot with the OV comment.
York18
Tue May 15 2012 9:18 am EST
pa: To answer your question....the only contracts up at that time are the RFAs. That year is the LAST year of Gabby,Cally,Boyle, Rupp, Staal, Giradi, and Hank's contracts. And the year before those guys become RFAs (so this off season) MDZ is an RFA, so it will not be easy for the Rangers. Of course it wouldn't be a shock to see Dubi and his 4.2 cap hit traded....nor perhaps, depending on who comes up in the system either AA or Boyle, or both could be moved in the next couple years. Its a bad problem to have really.
Wildcard
Tue May 15 2012 9:11 am EST
btw..,the only guy on the NBC who seems to show any + vibe is Roenick.
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 15 2012 9:09 am EST
td...,I see what you're sayin'. I am not a numbers guy but I do have a ?. Without knowing who or how much, isn't there any $ coming off the books to free up some dough?
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 15 2012 9:08 am EST
BTW, on the CBC broadcasts, they seem to enjoy bringing up how McDonagh was acquired by the Rangers...lololol...they did it again last night early in the first period after McD stymied both Parise and Kovalchoke...
RF4L
Tue May 15 2012 9:01 am EST
Sounds like Kreider's got a burgeoning personality - check out this quote from last night's postgame interviews, when asked about 'settling in': ““The last thing I want to do is settle in. I don’t want to be complacent, especially at this level. If I get complacent for a second, next thing you know I’m minus-2 and giving Ovechkin a one-timer in the slot. So, I’ve got to stay extremely focused, obviously.” LOL...good stuff!
RF4L
Tue May 15 2012 8:53 am EST
Just because I hate Pittsburgh and how they believe Fleury is the greatest...Lundqvist has played in 9 more games than Fleury in these playoffs and has given up 25 goals. Fleury in his 6 games gave up 26.
Tikkanen
Tue May 15 2012 8:52 am EST
pa - I will place any amount of beer on a bet that says PARISE does not come to New York. Not even a slight chance. Not even a .0001 percent chance. Just no way it happens. As a player, he would be a good fit, certainly. But cap-wise? He's already making $6 million. He's probably going to go for more than Richards did last summer. He could end up in the $8 million range, no doubt...then think about it this way: Him signing with the Rangers would essentially be shitting where he sleeps. He'd be burning some bridges that I don't think a player his age would burn just to make a few thousand more dollars...AND...on top of all of it, I simply don't see how Lou Lamarillo, one of the NHL's most savvy executives, will ever let him leave. Two things will happen before Parise picks up a pen to sign a Ranger contract: He'll get a better offer from the Devils or Lam will have him in a pair of cement overshoes at the bottom of the East River...NTM...you don't go after Parise for the same reason you don't go after NASH: He would hamstring you with signing future contracts with three guys you really want to keep in the system...Let me put it this way: Do you think McDONAGH is going to be willing to play for $1.3 million after next year? The kid could be making four times that amount by then...and STEPAN at $875,000? again...four times that amount. Ditto with HAGELIN. Do the math and the Rangers are going to need to pony up some pretty serious cash in the summer of 2013...something to the tune of $10 million to keep those players here. You ain't going to have those reserves with Parise in the lineup.
tdchi
Tue May 15 2012 8:48 am EST
TD: Of course ultimately, it's all speculation, but your recall of the Nash talks mirrors mine, save for one minor detail: It was McDonagh or MDZ, neither of which Sather was willing to give up. Kreider, as I understand it, was never on the table in the first place (although that's not to say Howson didn't ask for him). It was Dubi, Miller, this year's first and Erixon. Howson apparently was prepared to accept that deal if instead of Erixon, one of McD or MDZ were included. Even if Howson had accepted Sather's offer, it's a tough move because you risk stripping down the organization's feeder depth bigtime. McD and MDZ clearly are top 4 defensemen and will be for a very long time so I get why Sather refused. Still, I think it cannot be argued that Nash wouldn't bring to the Rangers a very significant missing ingredient, one Zach Parise wouldn't be able to do (see how easily McD steered him off the puck early in the 1st period on his partial break-away? No way could that be done to Rick Nash). Anyway, H2O under the bridge - for now. If the Rangers fall short of a cup win, I strongly suspect Sather and Howson will renew the talk in June and/or over the summer....
RF4L
Tue May 15 2012 8:41 am EST
Ola - I never remember Brooks writing about the NASH deal with such broad strokes. The way I understood it was that DUBINSKY was part of the deal Columbus wanted...then it was either MDZ or McDONAGH, a first and a prospect(presumably MILLER) ...Sather wouldn't dump McDonagh or MDZ, so Howson asked for ERIXON and KREIDER instead, and that's where talks ended. I don't ever recall the kind of haul you were talking about being mentioned with any seriousness. The point I gleaned out of all the discussion was the KREDER and McDONAGH were untouchable, and that's why Howson picked up his toys and went home...Only two people know what happened at the bargaining table, but I really didn't get any impression that the Rangers were upset they didn't land him. They gave away two guys who couldn't crack the lineup over MITCHELL to clear the tip of cap space they needed, but that's about it. I think Sather or the Rangers' brain-trust did their due diligence in asking about Nash and then smartly bailed on it when they realized there would need to be subtraction from their current lineup to make it happen...Nash would be nice here, but there's no way of telling how he'd play in NY. I think it was York who was saying there were plenty of high-test players that came to MSG in the past and fell on their faces. Imagine what the rags would be saying if Sather DID trade for Nash, he came here and posted zeros and the Rangers were eliminated in the first round.
tdchi
Tue May 15 2012 8:27 am EST
Morning All.., a few random musings to gargle on. After perusing the TSN site and reading post-game comments, I have determined that NO-ONE/NOBODY....has an ounce of love for our guys; no new news there but it's amazing this Club is getting NO respect. F@%# 'em All..!! On Nash.., obviously Kreider has shown that, if anything else, this Club need not explore a LW option for the time being. I will propose this idea though to the aristocracy; Parise as a UFA would be tremendous. The RW position would be stacked, as would the LW. Is there a legit 2nd line centre that could be garned via FA or trade out there? Step..to the 3rd line with Arty and Cally, and Boyler to the 4 with Rupper and Prust. Dubi as bait for that centre? Just sayin.'
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 15 2012 8:17 am EST
It's funny to read through the posts here after watching the game on DVR...pretty much dead-on accurate...which is funny, because the rubes at NBC had a whole game to ruminate over what they saw on the ice and it was just about the exact opposite of the transcript here...MY TAKE was that the Devils, while having their moments, NEVER CAME CLOSE to applying the pressure we saw from EITHER Ottawa or Washington...ESPECIALLY the Caps. Even in the second, where we all roundly agree they were outplayed, I didn't see the kind of stifling attack the Caps were applying ALL SERIES LONG. Nothing even close. And this was a well-rested Devils team too. Not that I'm surprised by this at all. The Devils don't have nearly the depth of Washington, who just barely had the depth of the Rangers...Now I'm not going to say it's gonna be an easy series, 'cause it won't. Compared to Washington, however, the Devils aren't nearly as tough an opponent...Hate to call a Game 2 critical, but I think it will be VERY important for the Rangers to come out every bit as hard on Wednesday, because the Devils are going to adjust. That's one thing I've got to and to VERBAL KINT(love that BTW)...Remember this guy took over a Devils team that was in disarray and looked to be heading toward the basement...He managed to play the whole season without one of his top centers(ZAJAC) and somehow shoehorned one of the least defensively responsible guys(KOVALCHUK) into a defensive system...he got a bunch of retreads(PONIKAROVSKY and BERNIER) to toughen his lineup and created a defense out of a few prospects and other AHL retreads. The guy will adapt to the Rangers' hard system and Game 2 will be MUCH tougher than this one. But I still have faith in the Rangers' depth...now if only these jackasses on NBC could take just an ounce of objectivity into the analysis. Had you not known the score and just watched the post game, you would have thought the Rangers lost the game 4-3.
tdchi
Tue May 15 2012 7:58 am EST
Was it me, or did Emerick say "And Lundqvist with only his 5th shutout of his career in the postseason" at the end of the game. I could be wrong, but that is what I heard. Listening to Daneyko and Resch after each Devils loss will be lots of fun, they look so miserable.
pete
Tue May 15 2012 7:36 am EST
On NASH. I wanted a deal for NASH made at the deadline if it wasn't going to gut the Rangers. Basically Columbus is in no position to hold the Rangers (or anyone else) over a barrel for NASH. I don't think we will really ever know what the offers were between the teams. Once that trade didn't go down my attitude about it changed. My thoughts were that if the Rangers got bumped out early in the playoffs and scoring seemed to be a big issue they can revisit the NASH deal in the Summer. However, any offer the Rangers made during the Summer should be substantially less they what they were willing to trade at the deadline as the urgency to make that move simply isn't there. If the Rangers got deep into the playoffs then my feeling was that the Rangers shouldn't even bother making a play for NASH. The guy's contract is a killer. If they have a good enough team to make it deep into the playoffs then they don't need NASH to get over the hump. They already have gotten over the hump. Adding a contract like NASH's would make it nearly impossible to keep some of the young players they have that will be moving toward bigger contracts in the future. The key for the Rangers will be to keep a steady funnel of young, inexpensive players coming into the system that have time to develop in Juniors, College and the AHL. They are doing that now and it is how you sustain a franchise for the long haul. The emergence of KREIDER is an example. His development, plus that of HAGS has lessened the need for a guy like NASH.
Vic
Tue May 15 2012 7:23 am EST
CHIN: You get the post of the day!.........."Chico's voice makes me want to put a shard of glass in my eye."................I couldn't agree more. I can't stand the whiny little bastard. Great game last night. The First Period was pretty even though the Devils may have had a few higher quality chances. The Second Period was all Devils. The Third Period was all Rangers. I had to laugh in the post game when MILBURY says something to the effect of "the Rangers were the better team in the Third. I don't want to say they Dominated but they were better."...........Really MIKE? Why don't you want to say the Rangers dominated the Third Period? They Dominated it just as much (if not more) then the Devils Dominated the Second Period. It amazes me how the #1 seed in the East is being talked about like it is a team that was lucky to sneak into the playoffs. All of the talk is centered around what the Devils are going to do the Rangers. I've never seen anything like this before. The best is all of the pre-game analysis. The talk of the Devils forechecking and how the Rangers haven't seen anything like it before. REALLY???? Do these morons actually watch the games? Did they happen to watch any of the Ranger games this season, especially from December through February? The Rangers entire style of play is predicated on a swarming, physical, relentless forecheck. They can handle the Devils forecheck just fine. How about asking if the Devils can handle the Rangers forecheck? It sure didn't look like it in the Third Period. The thing that made the Second Period so lopsided toward the Devils and made their forecheck seem so potent was the Rangers complete inability to control the puck and clear it when they had time and space. It was the worst period of puck handling and passing I've seen from this team all year. Did the Devils forecheck have something to do with it? Sure. But, not nearly what the talking heads would imagine. I don't expect to see that horror show of hands again this year.
Vic
Tue May 15 2012 7:23 am EST
When it comes to the ice and msg I remember back around 95 in a magazine they polled a lot of players on the best building to play in when it came to the ice and the worst. MSG was unanimous as being the worst especially early and late in the season and playoffs; Edmonton was considered one of the best. With that said, the devs ice though better wasn't considered a lot better. Both teams play enough games here to know what to expect, so poor ice is just bs. The rangers played and won on that same ice they weren't slowed down and like I said yesterday we are a better conditioned team than anyone and we are also a really young team as well so come third period we aren't tired so we look faster the ice didn't slow anyone down the style of play did. ......On Nash coming here you can't give up either mcd or mdz in that trade erixon isn't ready for this level of play. We already have to deal with Bickel you can't take away either of those guys it changes the whole dynamics of the defense.
York18
Tue May 15 2012 7:06 am EST
Certainly agree with everybody that the ice was horible...might of hurt them more with their style....and TOP I agree with you on Emeric, he's a good Hockey announcer....I mean think of Micheletti and he's OUR guy! Still want Nash on this team next year.....long shot probably but who kknows. Dubi must have a broken foot....and Stepan played his best game in awhile...loved Boyle giving up th epuck to Artie....
MelvilleFred
Tue May 15 2012 7:02 am EST
Bongo- You need to define "that trade". Every time in a situation like this, Brooks a day or two after the deadline or whatever got a piece on how the "real" asking price was tremendously high. This time, I even called it before hand. Its definitely Slats feeding him BS information to lessen the potential critique afterwards. If I remember correctly, the asking price according to Brooks was MDZ/McD, Stepan, Dubinsky, Kreider, McI and a 1st. Slats and Howson negotiated to the very last second. There was a ton of reports out there what CBJ asking price was. There was a ton of reports out there on what CBJ had asked for other teams. NONE of them was even remotely close to the asking price Brooks reported. Its prefectly possible that CBJ asked for ONE of MDZ/McD. Like MDZ/McD, Dubinsky and a first (as opposed to the 6-7 asset asking price reported). Or something like that. That was in line with what CBJ de facto wanted from other teams. And, I wouldn't have made a trade like that then and I wouldn't do it now. We were though reported to offer Dubi, Erixon, McI and a 1st. Would you have done that trade? That's this roster we have now, but you take out Mitchell and adds Nash. At the deadline, I argued that Kreider should have been added to that offer instead of McI. Dubi, Erixon, Kreider and a 1st. With the roster we had yesterday, its Kreider for Nash. I am still a big Nash fan. Crosby/AO/Malkin can save a franchise. Possibly. Short of those players, including guys like Stamkos, Duchene and everoyne else basically, no player can on their own carry a franchise from the celler to becoming respectable. And I am 110% convinced that its a tremendous burdon to, like Rich Nash, constantly be the go to player without ever getting any support what-so-ever. The best linemate he ever had is like David Vyborny. I wouldn't argue against the critique of Rich Nash, but I can definitely explain the reason for some of his lesser performances. With that said, I think he is one of the top 4-5 biggest talents in the game and definitely think he would become a helluva player, pardon my french, under Torts. I definitely think he would be magic next to Brad Richards and so forth. With that said, I still also definitely less convinced of the trade mentioned above after what I've see this season. Getting Nash defintely would mean upsetting the current construction of this team. Maybe its better to compliment instead of restructure? What do I know. But if you look at how good this team is now, if you could trade 1 roster player (Dubi at the time) for Nash, I just don't see many arguments that could have been made against a trade like that.
Ola
Tue May 15 2012 5:13 am EST
Who makes that trade for Rick Nash now? It would be an all time blunder!
BONGO
Tue May 15 2012 4:28 am EST
Was Marty already giving himself a built in excuse, by saying that Hank is the best goalie in the world this season?
York18
Tue May 15 2012 12:56 am EST
Just watched video reviews of the game on espn and other sites....it pains these "experts" to give rangers any credit for beating the devils 3-0. I see that a lot of you dont like emrick, i kinda like the dude very excitable i think he genuinely loves the game. The one i cant stand is pierre, to me he seems the most "anti-ranger" of all. For some reason i was not as nervous for this game as i was for ALL caps games. Great win, try to do the same on wednesday and GO RANGERS!!!
Topovski
Mon May 14 2012 11:56 pm EST
BOB: The balloons that hit me in the back of the head before each game make me want to punch someone like Joey Kocur once punched out Jim Kyte. It's almost as bad as the constant scoreboard reminders of how to cheer. We're not f'ing The Team Formerly In Atlanta or Phoenix. So stupid.
chinstrap
Mon May 14 2012 11:17 pm EST
I may be old fashioned. I am definitely old. But, WT ever-loving F is this steam shooting up at both ends when they score garbage? Can they make it any mor hokey and embarrassing? First, the stupid streamers and balloons. Then the stupid firecrackers. Now this. I mean. how freaking stupid.
Bob
Mon May 14 2012 11:00 pm EST
mf...What can I say...I am a Holly Jolly guy....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 10:49 pm EST
With out getting too ahead of myself....the Rangers match up vs the DEvils the best. The Devils play that brand of hockey that makes the Rangers play there own game that much better. Same goes with the Flyers but I am glad they are gone with that 0-6 jinxed record they had in the regular season vs the Rangers....The Caps gave the Rangers a hard time because holtby played over his head......One thing i dont get is everyone here dissing on the panthers....That team took the Devils to 7 games and lost games 6 and 7 in OT....I think other than Pens and Bruins, the Panthers woulda been a very tough team to beat because they are not only up-tempo but the Rangers and Panthers really have no rivarly....Thank goodness the Devils one that series.
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 10:48 pm EST
Shocking....Fatso admits Stepan did not interfere with him....Chico is a nutcase....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 10:43 pm EST
PJ: you're slip is showing, er, I mean your age...... :->)
mf
Mon May 14 2012 10:42 pm EST
Garden ice is also 6 or 7 floors up in that building......Hot air rises and i guess its hard to keep it super cold
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 10:41 pm EST
Or Burl Ives
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 10:39 pm EST
With that beard Dave Maloney is looking more like Stan Fishler.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 14 2012 10:36 pm EST
Chico's voice makes me want to put a shard of glass in my eye.
chinstrap
Mon May 14 2012 10:35 pm EST
My god now we get Chico on the MSG postgame....Saying Stepan bumped Fatso on the Girardi goal...They show the replay and he never touched him....Danyko having trouble being complimentary also....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 10:34 pm EST
Did anyone just hear Chico crying about the 1st goal..Stepan was interfering with Marty..how about look how far out on top of the crease Marty was.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 14 2012 10:27 pm EST
KIS: Who knows? Maybe becouse they have the trains running under the building to the west side yards and the foundation is warm as a result... No excuse though.... Hey Dolan, What the Phucks the problem with the ice ???
mf
Mon May 14 2012 10:27 pm EST
Crowd was all over Brodeur tonight, tons of Maaaaaaaarty chants. Uncle Daddy chants are gaining traction, much to my delight. Devil fan who looked like Snookie got into a fight with a Ranger girl. Hilarious. Oh, there was a game? Yeah, Girardi with 2 points and the game winner after his two worst periods of the year. He was playing like he was in a walking coma. Good for him getting it going in the 3rd. All has been said on Kreids, its always obvious early when he's got that extra jump. Thought the Boyle line and the 4th line had a number of good shifts. I liked Rupp going after Bernier late in the game, if they're not gonna play their tough guys, lets beat the shit out of them. Torts telling Stan his questions are stupid is the best part of every presser, because its true. Oh, and agreed with MONK. McD is special.
chinstrap
Mon May 14 2012 10:24 pm EST
PJ: Obviously we watched the same game.... The Rangers got an adrenline rush and stepped into a higher gear after the Girardi goal....
mf
Mon May 14 2012 10:21 pm EST
I know the garden is notorious for bad ice but today it seemed horrendous. How can an organiztion and a team with so much money have such bad ice. Guys that know, can you please explain why the ice is so bad all the time. Is there anything that can be done to make it better. Can you imagine if the Rangers had ice like in edmonton with speed like McD, Hags Gabby and kreider have. My tv couldnt keep up.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 10:19 pm EST
it feels great but it is only one game. Let's not get to excited yet. I don't want the Devs to have any hope. Kreider makes things happen and that shot. like they say in boston is wicked quick. Gotta let the kid play and live with some ofo the mistakes. He just tries so hard and gets caught bye experienced players sometime. The King showed why he is called the King. Girardi looked exhausted. McD is just incredible. Becoming my favorite Ranger. If this kid can play that good at age 22, what is he gonna be lke 5 years from now at 27. wonder if he will get norris consideration some day. Hagelin is another one. Can't hit the goal but he causes so much chaos on the ice.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 10:15 pm EST
Doc needs a complete hysterectomy because his estrogen level is affecting his judgement! If you haven't seen Torts post game interview, find it. Someone asks him a question about Kreider and his answer is fucking hilarious!
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 10:14 pm EST
A real character win tonight....Wild..I disagree as I believe the Girardi goal did energize the team....We had far more life in the third than the second....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 10:12 pm EST
Emrick is clearly having post menaupausal hot flashes, that poor old bitch. Maybe there's a job for him on The View after he melts down completely.
FerociousMonk94
Mon May 14 2012 10:08 pm EST
FM - I have no problem not being Emrick. I see a good play I can appreciate and call it like it is. Staal shot it right into his glove, but he had to throw his fat ass into reverse just to get there! haha
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 10:05 pm EST
DCI, with a sprawling glove save, one of three things happen. Either it is a superhuman grab, the puck is shot into your glove, or the goal is scored. I'll take the one in the middle.
FerociousMonk94
Mon May 14 2012 10:01 pm EST
JFC - good catch, if Marty keeps getting exposed when he handles the puck he is DONE! It is the only thing that separates him from the lower tier of the league. Though his save on Staal was a beauty. That being said, Fuck him!
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 9:59 pm EST
Nine out of sixteen, only seven left.
SteveCT
Mon May 14 2012 9:58 pm EST
Millbury is fucking clueless - ON KREIDER - The kid came in with a bang but Torts stuck with him. So 6 minutes of ice time in agame is sticking with the kid?? NBC Sucks. As a broadcaster, these guys are an embarrassment to the profession. I am local high school sports and I would shudder listening back to my tape if I made as many mistakes as these clueless fucks!!
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 9:57 pm EST
Monk -- exactly right....I did stand up and get close to the TV for the only time at the end when they had the extra skater and we were trying to preserve the shutout.....important to not let them score and keep The King's mystique going!
JFC31
Mon May 14 2012 9:55 pm EST
Wow! Gotta love whooping ass on Marty and especially shutting out the Debs. So sweet.... so very very sweet. I'll tell you, if we remember how to play offense, we have a lot more opportunities then we ever did against the Sens or the Caps. I was shocked that shots from the point actually got through... guess I haven't seen that in... oh, about 14 games. Marty can be had.. we just need to keep on bringing it like we did in the 3rd and we will dictate this series. I honestly just love how the whole tenor of the broadcast changes when it was obvious the Debs are getting whooped. They probably end up having to scramble for footage... douchebags one and all. LET'S GO RANGERS! .
Z
Mon May 14 2012 9:55 pm EST
And The King is definitely got MAty's number and MArty knows it> He came awfully close 3 or 4 times to giving away goals with his stickhandling antics. If he falls apart, the Devils are TOAST!!
JFC31
Mon May 14 2012 9:55 pm EST
That was about as good a period after the worst of the PO's as one could imagine.. the Debbies got but 4 shots and not really a sniff in the third.. gutsy performance... wow
sjw
Mon May 14 2012 9:55 pm EST
JFC...for me, the anxiety turned to preserving Hank's shutout. But I'll take shutout anxiety over the anxiety we've gone through ANY. DAY.
FerociousMonk94
Mon May 14 2012 9:53 pm EST
2 goal lead....
JFC31
Mon May 14 2012 9:53 pm EST
NEWS FLASH--MARTY WAS IN GOAL FOR THE 3RD RANGER GOAL...HOW COULD YOU TELL???????////ROTFLMAO!!!
thedugster
Mon May 14 2012 9:53 pm EST
And how nice was it to enjoy a l2 goal ead for more than 38 seconds??? LOL! I actually was relaxed and enjoying the last 6 minutes of the game....I knew we had it! That is a GREAT feeling!!
JFC31
Mon May 14 2012 9:52 pm EST
So Torts doesnt speak to the media, can you blame him? Whatever he said to the boys in the intermission really works,,,F the media,,,,,,,,f the debs,,,,,,love all you guys:) good nite!!!
thedugster
Mon May 14 2012 9:50 pm EST
How does it feel playing a REAL hockey team, Devils???LOL! So proud of the efforts of the Rangers in surviving the dead legs in the 2nd period. And Jesus H. Kreider was HUGE....on the 1st goal, alot of rookies would have just thrown it back to the point or thrown it in front or simply lost the puck....but this kid had the presence of mind...anf the STRENGTH....to hold the puck, look for the opportunity and feed it to the right place. FANTASTIC!! And then he beats MArty like a rented mule on a quick on the move twisted wrister. RAAAAANGERSSS!!!
JFC31
Mon May 14 2012 9:50 pm EST
UNCLE DADDY IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING......That was the hockey version of the rope a dope,,,,,,, Love my team,,,have NBC------sHUTOUt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!!!!!!---hEY WHERE IS SID? WHERE IS OV? WHO FUCKIN CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RANGERS WIN,,,,,,,
thedugster
Mon May 14 2012 9:50 pm EST
I also don't think that the Rangers had more energy in the 3rd...it's that they don't get any more tired due to that hellish conditioning Torts forces, it's that the other team looses its energy late giving the impression the Rangers turned it up.
Wildcard
Mon May 14 2012 9:48 pm EST
The King with his best game of the year! Huge win. This was the game I was really worried about coming off a hard fought 7 game series. They looked gut-punched in the second but as is their MO they came out and locked it down in the 3rd! I love this team!
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 9:47 pm EST
WOW...Rangers Dmen have 9 goals...next highest total is 5 by a couple teams...that is unexpected.
Wildcard
Mon May 14 2012 9:47 pm EST
McD is one of the best D men we've had in decades. If not the best.
FerociousMonk94
Mon May 14 2012 9:43 pm EST
So much for being the tired team. I love how the stat of the day was that the Rangers have only scored four goals once this playoffs. But they never mentioned that they have only given up four goals...uh, wait, they haven't yet. Suck on it haters, 7 more wins to go!
pete
Mon May 14 2012 9:43 pm EST
We beat Marty good.... He didnt have a terrible game, just not good enough..... Rhet: You pegged it, our most dominant win thus far..... Maybe the Debbies are not as good as Ott or Washington.....
mf
Mon May 14 2012 9:42 pm EST
Guess the Devs found out we aren't the Flyers and have a real goalie, the best in the league and our team makes it hard to get a shot and we are stronger in the third energy wise then any team.
York18
Mon May 14 2012 9:42 pm EST
DCIGOLFER... Yes, true, but Hank had a shut out tonight. He was absolutely freaking Brilliant!
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:41 pm EST
Lots of pissed off haters tonight. Love it!
Bob
Mon May 14 2012 9:41 pm EST
Great win, Huge 3rd! Wow....York the only trade I can think of better in the last 25 years was the trade for Messier.
NYStranger
Mon May 14 2012 9:41 pm EST
RHET - Great win, but I disagree. Game one against the sens was dominating! The second period was used diaper of a period. Hank saved our bacon big time. The third was a domination! 1-0! LGR!
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 9:40 pm EST
I can't really complain about the Refs, because there were a lot of things we actually did do that didn't get called.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:40 pm EST
LMFAO....can't stop laughing....Sorry, Doc!....Sorry all you NBC asswipes, but things didn't go your way tonight....The 3rd was a dream period in the context of these playoffs. Go to Hell, Devils!
FerociousMonk94
Mon May 14 2012 9:38 pm EST
Most COMMANDING WIN of the Playoffs for us... WOW, Great Game!
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:37 pm EST
Bullshit penalty and then they try to call back the final faceoff!! It's gonna be 5 on 7 the whole way for us
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 9:36 pm EST
Flyers suck!
nyfans
Mon May 14 2012 9:35 pm EST
What kind of weak ass call was that?
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:34 pm EST
Come on Rupp....We want a shutout you dufus.....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 9:34 pm EST
7 games to the cup!
Bob
Mon May 14 2012 9:33 pm EST
Oh what a win.....Feds-BB-AA....Score......
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 9:33 pm EST
Ah, ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha THREE ZIP !!!
mf
Mon May 14 2012 9:32 pm EST
Boyls said..."damn, I need to get it to somebody with hands"
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:32 pm EST
Wowser..finally scored an EN goal
DOUBLEN
Mon May 14 2012 9:31 pm EST
Heh Milbury, still think that they have an advantage due to the NYR being fatigued?
E
Mon May 14 2012 9:30 pm EST
Once the Rangers scored, they smelled blood... I smell Shut out.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:30 pm EST
Yorkie - McD no doubt but a close second is NOONE for Nash!
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 9:30 pm EST
Easy York; you might get labled a conspriracy theorist, there seems to be quite a few on the Wall.... Welcome back !!!!
mf
Mon May 14 2012 9:28 pm EST
under 3 minutes
mf
Mon May 14 2012 9:28 pm EST
Anyone ever just feel like the NHL picks up the phone that goes right to the ref on the ice and says give the Rangers a penalty ala the buffalo wild wing commercials to make the game longer............Single best trade of the last 15 years for the Rangers Gomez for Mcd
York18
Mon May 14 2012 9:28 pm EST
Chris Kreider releases the puck like that and he gonna make a lot of monet playing hockey. 2 points. The Devils are finding out that we are not the Flyers.
Bob
Mon May 14 2012 9:28 pm EST
Kreider has played 15:01... he better return to the ice.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:27 pm EST
Doctor must have been busy in the locker room shooting them up with adrenaline or something
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 9:24 pm EST
DCIGOLFER... I agree, that wasn't much of anything.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:23 pm EST
MDZ closed his hand on the puck and made a Hand Pass to get out of the zone and neither was called.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:23 pm EST
MDZ is having a hell of a game, anyway
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 9:22 pm EST
Someone said it earlier, Tort needs to let the kid play, he may make some mistakes but he is HUNGRY
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 9:22 pm EST
Surprise Surprise AHorseshit call!
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 9:21 pm EST
Oh well....Bad penalty....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 9:20 pm EST
SWEEEEEEETTTTTT CAROLINE !!!!!!! KRIEDER FROM AAAAAAAAA
mf
Mon May 14 2012 9:20 pm EST
I love this kid the more he plays the better he plays. Speed, can score pass and take the body. Nash who?
York18
Mon May 14 2012 9:20 pm EST
HORRIBLE POWER PLAY, but it's a Power Play Goal!!!
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:19 pm EST
IT'S A POWERPLAY GOAL!!!!!
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 9:19 pm EST
THE KID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 9:19 pm EST
In Kreider we trust!
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 9:19 pm EST
KKKRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:19 pm EST
WOW..what a shot by CK
DOUBLEN
Mon May 14 2012 9:19 pm EST
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 9:18 pm EST
Get one here and they will bury the Devils
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 9:16 pm EST
The save on staal looked exactly to leetchs game 7 goal vs nicks in 1994.....except leetch buried it
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 9:15 pm EST
Man up situation for the Rangers: "Just Crash The Net!"
mf
Mon May 14 2012 9:15 pm EST
Can we decline the penalty :)
DOUBLEN
Mon May 14 2012 9:13 pm EST
GET THE PUCK UP STAAL... GET THE PUCK UP!
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:13 pm EST
what a save...UGH !!!
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 9:10 pm EST
okay why does the ticket oak look retarded?
York18
Mon May 14 2012 9:09 pm EST
So far they are skating better this period than the 2nd.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 14 2012 9:09 pm EST
Prust is gonna score this series
barto
Mon May 14 2012 9:09 pm EST
Where did all this energy come from? Rangers are flying all of the sudden....Get the next one....LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 9:09 pm EST
Seems like since that goal, our boys stepped it into a higher gear... We're skating harder & hitting harder... Hoprfully, NJ cant keep up with us at that level......
mf
Mon May 14 2012 9:09 pm EST
Stralman has been brutal he is treating the puck like a live hand grenade
York18
Mon May 14 2012 9:07 pm EST
Can some of our guys get their first goal of the playoffs ? also dump, dump, dump and chase the Devils defence....
RangerGraham
Mon May 14 2012 9:03 pm EST
MMMAAARRRTTTYYYY
nyfans
Mon May 14 2012 9:03 pm EST
Stralman is F'ing killing us.....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 9:01 pm EST
I said Torts needs to play this kid and deal with his occassional mistake he makes shit happen.
York18
Mon May 14 2012 9:01 pm EST
Nice setup by Kreider!!
nyfans
Mon May 14 2012 9:01 pm EST
That was one hell of a setup by KREIDER.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 9:01 pm EST
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNCCCCCCCCLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEE DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
York18
Mon May 14 2012 9:00 pm EST
GIRARDI!!!
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 9:00 pm EST
Did you see Kreider use his body to sheild that puck before passing to Girardi????
mf
Mon May 14 2012 9:00 pm EST
Wowowoowowooow. Woot there it is
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 8:56 pm EST
doct....You may be right....As much as I like him Bickel isn't doing us any good right now....Need a right D though....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 8:53 pm EST
Perfect broadcast here on time Warner north Carolina , monk
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 8:52 pm EST
can't tell me erickson wouldn't be better than bickel .. bickel is now scare s...less. if he gets the puck he ices it. anybody would be better than bickel. rangers need to suck it up for one period. most of devils forecheck is based on awful passing of rangers, in the feet all nite long. rangers have had some good ideas, with horrible execusion. probably because of fatigue.
doct
Mon May 14 2012 8:50 pm EST
FM....Not getting it alot but some for sure....Very annoying....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 8:48 pm EST
Is no one else getting this fucking shit with the picture freezing and skipping? I'm about to throw a motherfucking $3k flatscreen out the goddamn window. Motherfucking Cablevision NBC shit!!@!
FerociousMonk94
Mon May 14 2012 8:48 pm EST
Let the kids play and double shift their young rested legs.
rngrsans
Mon May 14 2012 8:46 pm EST
Just rewound the Richards play....he had some space in between 5 hole....Marty was set......but the pass to gabby woulda been sick if connected
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 8:45 pm EST
I think given their fatigued state their doing well for it to be even. They can score on Marty with a few more shots. The any one but Ranger love is getting old.
barto
Mon May 14 2012 8:44 pm EST
Great penalty kill but we are not making their D work at all....Don't know where the energy will come from but we need it for the third....Our conditioning is being tested like never before....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 8:41 pm EST
Richards shoot the damn puck....Are you kidding me?
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 8:41 pm EST
Shoot that richie rich!
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 8:40 pm EST
You have to shoot the puck on that shot not pass.
York18
Mon May 14 2012 8:38 pm EST
Holy Fuck they look like a pee wee team out there. giving the puck away. no one covering the point, can't clear the zone! i almost killed my dog accidentally twice so far tonight. Wake the fuck up!
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 8:37 pm EST
Do we need another post about the PP ??? Dear PP G-ds, please allow us to find the back of their net.... Amen, thank you
mf
Mon May 14 2012 8:36 pm EST
Prust fails to shoot the puck after a steal and now takes a real dumb penalty....Horrible timing....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 8:35 pm EST
Fuckin boyles skillset is dwindling after concussion
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 8:35 pm EST
At least no short handed goal
rngrsans
Mon May 14 2012 8:34 pm EST
HANK makes some pretty amazing saves on Parise and all the announcer can talk about is how good Henrique and Parise are together.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 8:32 pm EST
Good Lord Stralman......
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 8:31 pm EST
Need to get the damn PP going, Jeez 0 forever !
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 8:30 pm EST
We need a PPG!!
rngrsans
Mon May 14 2012 8:29 pm EST
Need a pp goal.....once 3rd period comes...rangers will be doing a conga line to the penalty box as they wear down from exhaustion
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 8:26 pm EST
Call a timeout....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 8:23 pm EST
Awful period so far. They look exhausted. Hold on tight and bust this Mfer open in the third. Kreider has to step up with young rested legs.
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 8:19 pm EST
girardi has been- not so good tonite !!! almost scored on own net. has been horrible on power play . has had 6 or 7 shots blocked almost giving up breaks. wow, hope he settles down. still not sure why he would be on power play. !!
doct
Mon May 14 2012 8:14 pm EST
Damn....2 great chances and 2 sick saves by fatty
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 8:14 pm EST
Would love to watch one easy game. So difficult holding my breath for 20 minutes at a time...
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 8:13 pm EST
MDZ... Hold on to the damn puck until Marty commits... because he will commit.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 7:55 pm EST
I agree, seems the Rangers are getting alittle more room. Washington D was a bit stronger. A few more shots on goal and, as always, a few bodies in front of Marty, they should walk away with game one in hand !
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 7:54 pm EST
What is with these guys on NBC?....You would think the Devils dominated the first period....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 7:51 pm EST
Both teams seem to be a step off so far... Expected the Devils to be after the lay off, kind of surprised the Rangers are.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 7:49 pm EST
Early observation. The Devils aren't nearly as tight on defense as Washington.
barto
Mon May 14 2012 7:49 pm EST
A Callahan sighting would be nice....All in all not a bad first period.....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 7:49 pm EST
Got to love McDonaughs hustle.... Merci Beacoup Les Crabitants
mf
Mon May 14 2012 7:43 pm EST
Capt. Calli, Time to wake up in this game and score a couple!!!
ajurso
Mon May 14 2012 7:39 pm EST
Blue believe shirt at MSG .... Tug McGraw .... Git r done
stevielegs
Mon May 14 2012 7:21 pm EST
What is Rupp doing?...Shoot the puck....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 7:20 pm EST
Uncle Daddy almost gave us one there.
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 7:17 pm EST
I dunno....they look a step slow so far......
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 7:13 pm EST
That last chant sounded like "Let's Go Kreider"
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 7:10 pm EST
94 Graves jersey on. We have to win. LGR LGR
barto
Mon May 14 2012 7:10 pm EST
Deboer can pass for Verbal Kint
HamiltonHellhounds
Mon May 14 2012 7:07 pm EST
Here we go boyz n gurlz..... Part two of the playoffs,,, Lets Go Rangers !!!
mf
Mon May 14 2012 7:06 pm EST
TD... Actually they could... they cleared out all that room at the deadline they didn't use (in hopes of getting NASH)... Just caught a look at McDonagh in the pre-game... what a bad-ass steely stare he had on him... I'm expecting a big game from him tonight... maybe he scores his first of the playoffs.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 7:02 pm EST
Rhet - I'm not 100 percent certain, but I don't think the Rangers could fit REDDEN under the cap...alright...now I'm really signing off ;)
tdchi
Mon May 14 2012 7:00 pm EST
Patrick Kane's drunken weekend in Madison has now become fodder for the Chicago media, urging for the Blackhawks to trade him.... I'd take a chance on that problem child :) ....GO HARD OR GO HOME... Let's Go Rangers!!!!
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 6:57 pm EST
MZA seems to be getting close... I really am sick and tired of what Mitchell brings or DOESN'T BRING to this team... Dubinsky... he is still wearing the removable boot and has not skated at all since the injury... I have the feeling that if we see him at all, it will be in the Cup Finals (provided we make it that far)... Dineen11... I like the cut of the new "Black Aces" jib, though none of them are likely to see the light of day... Redden really must've burned his bridges with TORTS... I'd think he'd have to be better as a 6th D than Bickel, but I guess we already have enough Lefties on defense.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 6:57 pm EST
stevielegs - Wouldn't be surprised. It would explain why his production has started to drop fairly precipitously...DCIGolfer - Glad to hear their making shit up now. Can't wait untill someone blames the national deficit on LUNDQVIST...Well, good luck all. I'm logging out until my own game ends later tonight...LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
tdchi
Mon May 14 2012 6:56 pm EST
The Fatso fest is well underway on NBC....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 6:54 pm EST
LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 6:50 pm EST
Millbury just informed the viewing audience that Boyle's production has slowed since his suspension!! Did I fucking miss something. What a dumbass!
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 6:45 pm EST
Word is ovinut is an overthetop party animal
stevielegs
Mon May 14 2012 6:44 pm EST
As a Rangers fan, I'm glad Hunter is not coming back... he's proven himself to be an excellent coach and IMO, the CAPS are now worse off with him gone :) Let's see if the next guy get's as much out of that team.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 6:43 pm EST
HAGMANIA
stevielegs
Mon May 14 2012 6:39 pm EST
The play that I have seen work a couple of times and i enjoy watching it develop is the "Swedish Torpedo!" D-man head mans the puck to the neutral zone on the other side of the red line and BRich steers the hard pass into Hagelins corner where he is headed at top speed to recover. He then centers to Gabby or BRich for the goal. It worked for the first goal of the game saturday and I saw it in the Sens series too. LGR beat the snot out of Uncle Daddy and the little debbies
DCIGolfer
Mon May 14 2012 6:39 pm EST
Good to see that many of us have had our Rangers Kool-Aid... we should not forget that this DEVILS team has given us fits in the regular season and has been tough to play against... I do expect more of the same in this series... We've also succeeded in making Brodeur look like a world beater... making most of our shots into his Pads and Mid-section (A LA Holtby)... We need to take a page out of the CAPS playbook and shoot at Brodeur from sharp angles and not always straight-on... It seems like common sense, but we've had problems with it throughout the season (and Playoffs)... I would absolutely LOVE to get a 2-0 lead up on these guys (for a damn change), we haven't won 2 in a row since games 6 and 7 against the Senators... KIS... Why would you touch OV with a 10 foot pole? The guy shows up to camp every year out of shape (which would go over well with Torts.... he'd be in the dog house from Day 1)... Sorry, he's just too much of a Prima Donna for me and I really wouldn't want his attitude around a lot of the younger players on this team... JMO, of course.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 14 2012 6:18 pm EST
I didnt wanna bring it up....and be a mush....BEfore the season starting, I posted on here that I bet the Rangers @ 30-1 odds for $1000 cash in Vegas. So i am half way here....now i am getting excited to win the Cup not only as a fan.....but to win the big fuggin cash watching it!!! is there a way to archive the wall postings? LETS GO RANGERS!!!!
TradeStar28
Mon May 14 2012 6:13 pm EST
The L.I.R.R. Is packed with Ranger Fans on their way to Penn Station... The Energy is building, and The Garden is still empty.... We're gonna rock tonight... Let's Go Rangers
mf
Mon May 14 2012 5:07 pm EST
From what I know about the Hunter situation is that he was really a serious "interim" coach. He was perfectly happy to stay coaching in juniors and I think he's a part owner. I doubt anyone int he organization besides the players didn't know that was the plan. He is one of the few coaches in the NHL who isn't worried about his next job, so he could do what he wanted. Good luck finding someone else like that to come in and coach the likes of OVI.
ColoradoMark
Mon May 14 2012 4:01 pm EST
mf---much better thanks,LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F UNCLE DADDY
thedugster
Mon May 14 2012 3:55 pm EST
Douglas, Douglas, Douglas, Oh my, Do you feel better now? :->) ......... Phuck-em-all !!!! Lets Go Rangers !!!
mf
Mon May 14 2012 3:47 pm EST
FTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErSFTW----LeTs gO RaNgErS
thedugster
Mon May 14 2012 3:45 pm EST
The experts in LAS VEGAS have the Rangers a 7-2 favorite to win the cup,,La is at 5-1,,,,,,,,,,FUCK NBC---I SO MISS MSG Broadcasts------cant wait to see pucks bouncing off uncle daddys head,,,let the jerkoff x devil announcer choak,,,,,
thedugster
Mon May 14 2012 3:27 pm EST
Screw Hunter, Screw OV, and especially SCREW Uncle Daddy and the rest of the Ranger-Hating, glory hole operators who call themselves Devils or "Beat" writers or "experts!" Also, pulled this from YouTube. This kid has flown under the radar so far: Marek Hrivik highlights from three QMJHL games 9-12. February 2012
pa.rangersfan
Mon May 14 2012 2:52 pm EST
wow on hunter, got to guess because of ovechoke.....and i make a motion to change the name of The Wall, to the CJ NYR Wall........
stevielegs
Mon May 14 2012 2:47 pm EST
Add DYLAN MCILRATH to that list, too.
Dineen11
Mon May 14 2012 2:47 pm EST
that's a good idea
stevielegs
Mon May 14 2012 2:42 pm EST
The following Whale players are making up a "taxi squad" that is heading to NY along with the Whale coaching staff: CAM TALBOT, TIM ERIXON, KRIS NEWBURY, CASEY WELLMAN, JONATHAN AUDY-MARCHESSAULT, MAREK HRIVIK, JT MILLER and CHAD KOLARIK.
Dineen11
Mon May 14 2012 2:29 pm EST
It will be interesting to hear if Simmonds was injured. He was useless against NJ, as were most of the other Flyers. Our guys need to be wrecking Devils at every opportunity, starting with their D. I hope our guys are nt too banged up to do so. get JT Miller in to practice with the team in case we need reinforcements.
Bob
Mon May 14 2012 2:20 pm EST
This is what I was saying about the Flyers: “Sam Carchidi via twitter: Apparently the Flyers have so many players that may require surgery, they won’t be able to sort it out until next week..” I was at first surprised to see the Devils making such short work out of the Flyers...then I saw one of the games. New Jersey absolutely DOMINATED the boards against Philly...Which also struck me as peculiar until I read that Twitter message. The series against the Pens was about as dirty and as bruising a series as they come. The Flyers battered by the time they limped up to New Jersey, who played a relatively forgiving game against the MUCH softer Panthers. The idiot NBC announcers kept going on about how disciplined the Devils were the whole series...well...aside from RINALDO and GIROUX'S one big hit, the Flyers weren't exactly hitting hard. The hits they did lay were cheapshots and easily called for the penalties they were...Another sign the Flyers were just physically gassed...after playing a relatively disciplined game against the Pens, suddenly they went back to this sort of clown-style of hockey and the Devils ate it up...Where does that leave the Rangers? Well, first of all, I think the Devils are going to be in for a VERY rude awakening tonight. They haven't played a tough game since the regular season and they're about to go up against a Ranger team that literally thrives by controlling the boards. They're not going to have nearly the walk in the park they did against Philly.
tdchi
Mon May 14 2012 2:05 pm EST
KIS: with the cap as is, we cant afford $9m on one guy.... as you say, topic for another time... "All That Matters is Winning Tonight" (everything else, chatter) Lets Go Rangers !!!!!
mf
Mon May 14 2012 1:53 pm EST
"Next Question" feat John Tortorella by DJ Steve Porter.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPGtxTL-0X4&feature=youtu.be
RF73
Mon May 14 2012 1:50 pm EST
Actually lets save that discussion for a day after the play-offs
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 1:49 pm EST
Do I dare say I would be interested in pursuing OV in the off season. The Rangers could offer something similiar to Washington as they did Columbus. Offer them AA, Dubi, Erixon, Borque, MZA and a 2nd.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 1:23 pm EST
RF4L - It's funny I was just saying the EXACT same thing to a co-worker. OV should be moved if Washington ever wants to win the cup. I'm sorry, but as talented as he is, he simply isn't a team player and never will be one. There's a reason why he's never made it beyond the second round of the playoffs...three years ago, it was because the Caps didn't have goaltending...two years ago, it was because Boudreau sucked as a coach...what's his excuse this year? The f@cking idiot limped into the playoffs...got REAL lucky the Bruins lost HORTON...Nathan Horton in that series and Boston wins it in six...and then had just about every call on the planet go in their favor against the Rangers...The Caps could get a HUGE haul for OV...and they're going to want to get it sooner than later because his value AIN'T going up from here...the Caps are also in a strange place, because they really didn't get much out of the last two drafts...and the talent they had on the farm is getting weaker and weaker. OV could get you a couple of real nice players and a haul of first-round picks. And he'd land you $9 million in cap space, with which you could invest in players that DO make the team stronger. But my guess is McPHEE holds onto him. He's just too marketable to ditch...and that's fine...since the Caps will continue down the path of mediocrity OV has consistently lead them down.
tdchi
Mon May 14 2012 1:21 pm EST
Rangers against the world, indeed . . . I am completely amazed at all the experts picking the Devils. They needed OT in game 7 to pick the one team everyone in the East would've chosen for a first round matchup if they were give a choice . . . and I firmly believe their 2nd round domination says more about the Flyers than it does about the Devils. I really do not think I am taking them lightly, but I don't see them beating the Rangers. Our advantage on D is enormous over them. Honestly with Staal being Staal again, what team has a better top 4 on D than NY? I also think our forward will have more room to work than in either of the first two rounds, and as great as he is, Marty doesn't scare me even a little. If you are ranking the four remaining goalies right now, Marty would be fourth. Rangers in 5.
Fivehole
Mon May 14 2012 1:16 pm EST
Ok.......hopefully this isn't like talking about a no hitter with a pitcher and jinxing him from throwing one but does anybody have an idea when Stanley Cup tickets will go on sale? (if they haven't already)
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 1:05 pm EST
Maaarrrrrty.......Maaarrrrrty.......
mf
Mon May 14 2012 1:03 pm EST
Rangers against the world... just makes them stronger. The Blueshirts are going to pound the living shit out of Kovy and their crap defense.
Tucc
Mon May 14 2012 12:58 pm EST
RF4L--Queue the OV to Toronto rumors. You should e-mail EKLUND!
Bob
Mon May 14 2012 12:55 pm EST
Here's a look at how the Torts & DeBoer pre-game press conferences stack up: http://www.puckpress.com/blog/puck-news/pre-game-press-conference-torts-vs-deboer
josh29
Mon May 14 2012 12:48 pm EST
Any of the so called experts, beat writers etc.... talking about the Devils receiving TARP Funds to survive??? Ay Brooksie, topic not worthy of a piece in the rags? Me thinks its worthy, & others here probably think so too.......
mf
Mon May 14 2012 12:42 pm EST
Sorry about the double post.
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 12:41 pm EST
Agree with those that say we can win this series...Don't agree the Devils won't make it extremely difficult....Yes they had trouble with the Panthers but it was mainly due to a strong Panther PP which is something we don't have....Our games against them were battles and I believe that will continue....We absolutely have the edge in net and our D is stronger....We have to stay out of the box as 5 on 5 we beat them....If the series hinges on the stronger PP we have a problem....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 12:41 pm EST
Agree with those that say we can win this series...Don't agree the Devils won't make it extremely difficult....Yes they had trouble with the Panthers but it was mainly due to a strong Panther PP which is something we don't have....Our games against them were battles and I believe that will continue....We absolutely have the edge in net and our D is stronger....We have to stay out of the box as 5 on 5 we beat them....If the series hinges on the stronger PP we have a problem....
PJ
Mon May 14 2012 12:36 pm EST
Not surprised about Hunter - suspect he didn't relish facing having to get the stars of the Caps to play as they did in the POs all season next season. Personally, I think McPhee needs to seriously consider exploring what the market will bear for OV. OV is too entrenched there - too much power and influence, not to mention the negative fall-out for the next coach should he clash with OV. And really, what have the Caps won with OV as captain? For sure a couple of tremendous regular seasons, but continual PO failure (not that I'm blaming those failures solely on OV, but he certainly, as captain and as the team's best player, should bear significant responsibilty).
RF4L
Mon May 14 2012 12:34 pm EST
Fotiu, maybe he will prematurely ejaculate and goal Goal before Lundqvist makes the save.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 12:33 pm EST
Hospo I agree 100%. Loved how he spoke to the press. Article said he was going back to the OHL sound tigers. Isn't that his team. And wanted to be with Family. Reported by TSN and yahoo sports. Also Washington papes.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 12:29 pm EST
KIS - Wow on Hunter thought there were rumblings.....I gained alot of respect for Hutner in these POs...He got the most he could out of that team...He may not be a genius, and he knows it, but he knows hockey....and loves it....He did a tremendous job of coacing that team, having them ready, having them motivated in the POs......And, even in losses, the class, poise and hionesty he displayed in his press conferences (*all opposite of Tortotella) were tremnedous.....Sounds like he wants to be close to his family, which makes me respect him even more..
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 12:23 pm EST
RF4L :ike I said..Just BE NICE:)..or BE SAFE:)..BE RANGERS!....But serioulsy, Torts job is too make sure that the Rangers keep on playing his brand of hockey no matter what the Devils do.....Yeah, some on here will also call for the Rangers to change things up, to be more wide open, but that just isn't the 2012 Rangers way...Tehy will live or die by Tort's way....all about Execution....kinda have no other choice..
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 12:21 pm EST
interesting to see that Dale Hunter is leaving the Caps. Don't know if anybody mentioned that.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 12:21 pm EST
Can't wait to listen to Emrick root for the Devils tonight and screw up the call on every Ranger he sees. He must have called Gabby, "Kreider" a half dozen times.....F-Tank, "Kreider" a half dozen times as well.
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 12:19 pm EST
Someone wants the Rangers to go out because they're boring...and the Devils aren't? Huh? They've been boring for 20+ years. What a bunch of morons....
RF4L
Mon May 14 2012 12:18 pm EST
The Rangers have long been a hated team in the press. Especially when we went out and bought every player under the sun. The press and media hate us, but I really don't care because I don't read it and they have no outcome on the game. They want to hate us good let them, it'll only kill them more when we win.
York18
Mon May 14 2012 12:17 pm EST
Tikanen - The Pens and Flyers both played Pee Wee hockey...Both Coaches and Goalies Sucked......and the next round, Bryz sucked (as expected), Laviolette blew and the enite team was in chaos....I think the Devils farm club would have beaten them.........and I was shocked that after the buzzer on Saturday..that bald headed bozo didn't start yelling "But you giotta hand it to the Caps, they are the real winners of this series, to come so far against a superuioer team, to be losers only on the scoreboard...it is just not fair that the Rangers are the team advancing...."..I really wanted one of the Ranger players to embarass him...Oh well, they have too much class
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 12:12 pm EST
KIS - Just like I said against the Caps and Senators, if the Rangers play their game (which many of us don't like AT TIMES), they will beat the Devils....Plain and simple....Just like against the Caps, the Rangers have to hammer all the Devils D-men, hit them and hurt them...Thye trailed off in games 5 and 6 and it showed in the Caps play....It's why I would like to see Dubi back some time in this series.....JUST CURIOUS, but did the Rangers call up players for CT???
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 12:09 pm EST
Let's be honest, even though the Pens vs. Flyers displayed poor hockey fundamentals in every sense of the term, many people (not all) who are die-hard fans, casual fans or not fans at all, found 8-5 games with lots of fights exciting to watch. For me, that is not hockey, but what do I know. The douchebags on the radio here complain how a blocked shot is more celebrated than a cross ice tape on tape pass. They complain that the Rangers vs. Caps was not good hockey. The Rangers won a 3 OT hockey game and the pundits kept saying how "Dale Hunter managed a smarter game" even though they lost because he managed his team's ice time better. For whatever reason, the Rangers are the 'underdog' and Torts knows it (although he does not care) and the Rangers know it and they are using it to their advantage...and I hope it continues.
Tikkanen
Mon May 14 2012 12:03 pm EST
sorry.....link to a remix of Torts interviews....
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 12:03 pm EST
i thought this was pretty funny....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G76eadv6ZM
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 11:58 am EST
With the mentality and character of the players on this team I can just imagine what they are thinking. I hope everybody picks the fuckin devils. Keep making the Rangers become closere and on a mission. I just read some articles like the Scott Burnside article on Espn and it got me so fired up. The Flyers beat the Pens because the Flyers got into Pittsburg's head and got the pens into a brawl. When Philly tried to do that against NJ, the devils didn't fall for it and spaceman and the flyers went bye=bye. Hell flyers were so desperate by the end of the series they didn't have their best player playing. The player the Rangers have got to work over in this series is Volchenkov. He will hit Ranger forwards into next week if allowed. The Rangers can get into Kovy's mind as well. I hope and pray the Rangers kick the shit out of the Devils both physically and on the score board.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 11:56 am EST
The Hockey News writer Ken Campbell: "I can’t help but want to see the New York Rangers go down in flames in the Eastern Conference final." Now this was a larger article about the Rangers blockings shots being bad for hockey but still a recurring theme.....
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 11:51 am EST
This does play into the Tortorella us against the world model. The Rangers will be underdogs and the more hated team all the way through the playoffs. There are many reasons for this, including Torts blow ups with refs and the media. Oh well, we'll just have to kick there asses anyway. The Devils will be a different test, but we should be able to score goals in this series.
Bob
Mon May 14 2012 11:50 am EST
Hospo -- yeah, the PP is an ongoing problem. But, the Devils PP is just as bad, so that helps a bit. If someohow we could get the PP going, we'd be very hard to stop. Still, I think we can beat the Devs 5-on-5 and I swear I feel so confident that we are going to make Brodeur look like Swiss cheese. I think that facing Khe King really puts Marty's head ina bad place....if he looks shakey, the Devils will fall apart very quickly. That's was the final nail in the Pens' coffin....when Feury fell apart, it was like a domino effect on the rest of the team.
JFC31
Mon May 14 2012 11:47 am EST
Which Devils team do we get tonight? Will it be the Devils that dominated the Flyers by not engaging in the rough stuff, who risk getting hammered by the more physical Rangers? Or will the Devils attempt to increase their physical presence with Boulton and Janssen into the lineup, and try to play the Rangers' game?
josh29
Mon May 14 2012 11:45 am EST
Just read Yahoo's predictions for the series......two of the writers: "As much as I would prefer to see the Devils advance to the Stanley Cup Finals" and "As much as it would be a great story to see Marty Brodeur in the SC final (to say nothing of David Clarkson, Zach Parise, Adam Henrique and yes Ilya Kovalchuk)".......yea....call me stupid for reading yahoo sports but F ever last one of these "commentators" who openly root against the Rangers.
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 11:44 am EST
...and, just to be a jerk to Devils fans: http://www.puckpress.com/blog/puck-humor/brodeurs-kids-is-it-go-daddy-or-go-uncle-marty
josh29
Mon May 14 2012 11:44 am EST
VIC/JFC - I wess not worried one iota about beating the Sens or Caps going inot the respective sereis...(Of course, worries ensued DURING the series!)....Still think we beat the Devils, but the PP and the Fatigues do really worry me..
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 11:44 am EST
Scouting the Refs for tonight's Game 1 -- O'Halloran and McCauley: http://www.puckpress.com/blog/featured/scouting-the-refs-rangersdevils-game-1
josh29
Mon May 14 2012 11:42 am EST
E - I'm with you..Rightly or wrongly, the teams I thought the Rangers had a chance of losing to in the East were Boston and Pitt...nobody else.....and I still see them beating the Devils.
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 11:41 am EST
7 & 1/2 hours to game time! As many Wall Crawlers have pointed out, the Devils have had the good fortune of drawing an easy PO schedule in the 1st 2 rounds. Well, that is OVER now.....and I don't think they'll be able to handle it. The only wild card is possible Rangers fatigue. I think adreneline will more than compensate for it tonight....but, will the Rangers have a game in this series where the minds are willing but the bodies are just not able? We'll see. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict....if the Rangers win tonight, they take the series 4 - 1. LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
JFC31
Mon May 14 2012 11:38 am EST
Never been happier to be wrong about a game as I was for game seven. The funny thing is that I was real worried about the SENS and CAPS series going into them. I'm not at all worried about the Devils. Why is that? I think the Rangers are a better team then the Devils. I respect PARISE a lot but nobody else on that team concerns me from a skill perspective (not even KOVALCHOKE). The only thing that scares me with the Devils is their PP. If the Rangers lose this series it will be because they lost the special teams matchup. Five on Five I'll take the Rangers over the Devils. Hey......I'm picking the Rangers to beat the Devils in a 5 or 6 game series. You should all be very worried...........
Vic
Mon May 14 2012 11:37 am EST
HOSPO: the so called experts left the NYR for dead against Ottawa. The said, that Washington was just a better team that could out "NYR the NYR style of play" and what happened. Philly was going to win the Winter Classic. So the NJD are going to kill us. I'm just fine with that. They keep on being the experts and I will keep on being a realist. This matchup is a tremendous contrast in style of play. That stated, the NYR have a strong record at grounding a team like that into a nub. And maybe the NJD have a better and more consistent offense. But they also didn't play Washington who sacrificed offense for circling the wagons and waiting for a chance at the PP to get some production. The NYR forwards will get chances on Broduer. They will get in on the forecheck. And it remains to be seen if the NJD can crack the brick wall that is the NYR defense and goaltending that in this humble man's belief is superior. And so they can keep on predicting the NYR will lose. It's okay by me. Because the more that they predict it, the more the NYR slap them by asking their darlings and turning them into mush. Just ask Karlsson, Semin, OV or any of these other stellar talents who all have their heads stuffed and mounted over the NYR fireplace. And now their is still room for Parise, IK17, and Fatty.
E
Mon May 14 2012 11:18 am EST
Barto - Face it, the Rangers are a disliked team...Alot of the annoucers/color commentators are ex-players with grudges agasinst the High spending Ranger...Ditto fo announcers and writers of other teams.....And, hell, you take an occasional look at the juvenile (but huge) Hockey future sight and they jsut hate the Rangers......SCREW ALL THOSE MFS!!!.. Funny, but one of the guys that i think calls it fairly straight is Milbury----who is now My hero ever since PARANGER accused me of beiong the Wall's Millbury..:)
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 11:01 am EST
Just my two cents on Nash. I'm glad the Rangers stayed the course. Gutting what we have for a player that may or may not help would hurt for the next several years when we have to re-sign some of the players we have. As far as most of the NHL commentators picking the Devils frankly I'm baffled that the Rangers get no credit for the way they have played and kept it together through allot of adversity this year. I mean, I know it's a new season but first place since December and no credit. If it was the Devils record they would have them hoisting the cup already. Geesh
barto
Mon May 14 2012 10:49 am EST
This Clueless Jackass thinks that if we play a rough & physical game around Marty's net, we're gonna score enough bang em in goals to win this series.... Who on their D is going to consistently clear the crease? I see Cally & Gabby scoring just this way in this series..... "Lets Go Rangers!"
mf
Mon May 14 2012 10:49 am EST
FOTIU - Nope, RUPPER!!!!!!!
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 10:49 am EST
TUCC - except for MELROSE, the limited consensus I have looked at has the Devils with a better team defense, a better offense, a better PP and point out possible fatigue in the Rangers.....The first is oure Bull shit, the second is on is a factor of the Devils playing rinky D defenses and goaltenders....... but I do worry about the latter two.....The PP is a life drainer for the Rangers and I do worry about the ice time load on the top players.,
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 10:49 am EST
Call me off my rocker.......predicting that Prust is giong to score tonight.......
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 10:45 am EST
York18 - No arguement...I have said the same thing many times and I never wanted NASH..OTOH, I did want some more depth up front and on the backline..but, perhaps, it wasn't needed?....and why I said we'll see if we have enought talent as is to go with our rock solid chemisty, attitude, and character...
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 10:38 am EST
KIS that's my point, everyone who is here got us where we are right now. Take away one thing, anything and we could have a quick exit. Adding Nash could have been a great move, or a horrible one, but right now I wouldn't change a damn thing because everyone who is here from Bickel to Mitchell and Rupper helped us get here....HOSPO Cheimstry got us this far throw in Nash and maybe it goes in the toilet.
York18
Mon May 14 2012 10:34 am EST
So it looks like most prognosticators are picking the Devils... makes me laugh. I guess going 7 with the Panthers and beating an overrated Flyers team with a goalie who scores on himself makes them favorites. I mean who wouldn't average three goals a game against the Bryzgolov and Theodore. New Jersey's fun ride is about to end...
Tucc
Mon May 14 2012 10:18 am EST
Hospo---KILL JOY---:)...LOL
thedugster
Mon May 14 2012 10:16 am EST
tdchi---Its intresting to me that this team in some ways reminds me of the 94 team,,,,,that team had lots of star power but they played for each other night after night,,,,,,,I am sure Sather is going to go out and look for more scoring and we have a few assest to trade for then,,,I have not been a big AA fan but I now understand his role and he plays a huge part in the team, I hope Stu Bickle can learn for this experience as I know he is trying his best everynight and maybe he is trying too hard but when Torts talks about this experience Im thinking Stu and Kreider are the guys who will benefit most,,,,,,,I am worried we hear nothing about Mike Sauer ,,,,We need to watch out for the devils turn around speed its very good but I dont Fear UNCLE DADDY--HE IS A BUM!!! lEtS Go rAnGeRs!!!
thedugster
Mon May 14 2012 10:15 am EST
Let's not get ahead of ourselves, anybody can yammer all they want about chemistry (and the Rangers have it, and it is their strong foundation) but if the right talent isn't there, the team won't win it all unitl it is....Hopefully, the next months shows we have just enough...
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 10:08 am EST
dugster - I was yammering on about 'chemistry' for years with this club, saying over and over again that it's not a matter of 'if' as much as it is a matter of 'when.' I've been a HUGE fan of how this team built itself from the net out and could even see the first glimpses of how good these guys would be even back in the JAGR days...there was a bit of a hiccup when he bailed and Tortorella took over...but essentially the core was kept the same. Then when guys like Kreider, Step and McDonagh started coming into the system...and Prust and Boyle...lots of guys with a proven track record of winning at the lower levels. The BEST part about this Ranger team is that it's basically locked in for the next two-to-four years, and that's why I'm so diametrically opposed to getting a guy like NASH(and KOVALCHUK the year before)...Not only does he cost you players...he costs you salary cap. A lot of salary cap. And that's cap you're going to need to lock in some of these young guys long term. Guys like McDonagh, Kreider and Step could all easily be looking at $4 million plus in a few years...Speaking of revisionist history...anyone ever wonder where this team would have been with CHEREPANOV in the lineup? That was another tragic setback for the post-Jagr Rangers.
tdchi
Mon May 14 2012 10:03 am EST
KIS - Cool, although it brings up nauseating images of Tug McGraw and the Mets!!......As for changes, I don't make any unless injuries or going down in a series...
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 9:55 am EST
TD, I thought I saw about 3 weeks ago that Sauer was shut down for the season. Still having trouble with headaches and light sensitive
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 9:53 am EST
Hospo, my son was in NYC yesterday and around the garden and he said many of the shirts and things said NY Rangers BELIEVE
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 9:53 am EST
stevie - true that...DUBES has definitely underachieved this season...I'm sure it will come as no surprise that he put up the worst numbers of his entire career last season...and that includes Juniors. I think part of that also had to do with his relegation to some of the bottom lines...Still, I think he's a valuable piece to this roster and one they missed fairly sorely last round. I mean, say what you will about the kid...but he's a MAJOR upgrade over MITCHELL or RUPP and he's a big-minutes guy. You know he's skating 17-plus minutes if he's in the game. I mentioned this in the middle of the Caps' series, but I think it bears mentioning again: This Ranger team is succeeding without two of its top-line players(SAUER and DUBINSKY) and with a third who was crucial to improving the PP toward the end of the season(ZUCCARELLO). Imagine them with all three in the game. This team becomes infinitely tougher...Speaking of Sauer...has anyone heard one word about him? is he even with the team? Has he been shut down for the season? No boot for Dubes and a no-contact jersey for Zucc are all good signs. Here's another question: Does Zucc even get in the game when Dubinsky's back? Do you bench Rupper and Mitchell for those two? I sure as hell would...
tdchi
Mon May 14 2012 9:48 am EST
KIS/STEVIE - I'm not backing out, I'm saying it looks like I was wrong....My feeeling was that the Rangers were a good team but this was a year to go for the Cup and to do that they needed more depth.....So far, the Rangers and results are in the process of showing that I was wrong....OTOH, we are only halfway there........Question to you New Yorkers, any marketting of the Ranger built around on how much agony and torutee is involved in rooting for them? Should be soemthing like 2012 NEW YORK RANGERS - TORTURE!!!!...That's exactly what the SF Giants did in 2010 when they won the WS series with every game being close to a pitching duel, lack of offense, nail biting one-run torture....unti the Finals! Here's hoping we have as long and succesful torture...
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 9:45 am EST
I love this team faults and all...what a team,,,,,,,you cant buy what we have and thats wonderful chemisrty...they play for each other,,,no way Avery could be a part of this,,Torts was right,,,now its the Devils turn,,,,we should grind them down,,,,,Im sure there will be a few fights in this series,,,,,,,,I realy dont like the devils at all.......We need to try and have a quick series and get some rest,,,,,,we find ways to win,,,,,,,imangine if Dubi, Sauer, MZ were flying, if Boyle was healthy or Cally?......The next few years are going to be great,,,,,,,But Im a PROUD RANGER FAN,,,,,,I understand the boys have logged a ton of ice time and its a little scary but its shows that torts conditioning program works,,,As for Nash,,,who cares now? Could have should have have no meaning now,,we are what we are and thats a pretty damn good team with lots of young talent playing their asses off every night on thier way to the Cup,,,A team of destiny?.....Im glad the media hates us,,it motivates us,,,,,,,,,,LeTs gO RaNgErS~~~~!!!!!!!
thedugster
Mon May 14 2012 9:41 am EST
wouldn't think
stevielegs
Mon May 14 2012 9:40 am EST
tdchi it's all hearsay, but the only guy that was going from this roster, is Dubinsky. Kreider and Mc were supposedly untouchable. Dubinsky has been dubzero all year, and hasn't been missed. He' s acted like a mercenary since the pay increase, on the retirement program. Tortorella won't put up with much more of that, and i would think he had a problem if Nash was replacing him, and Kreider replacing Rupp or Mitchell. ....pure speculation, not relevant today........it's time to kick some debbie ass.....MAAAARRRRRTAY......
stevielegs
Mon May 14 2012 9:31 am EST
yeah hospo, stop doing an about face ....welcome to the bandwagon.. ;-)......hope to see one and all at the parade........the last one was incredible..........except for the pushing, so i went on a side street.........git r done........
stevielegs
Mon May 14 2012 9:29 am EST
York - Agree 100 percent. Reading those jackass writers playing the could'a should'a would'a game with the NASH situation incensed me...and the bottom line is that HOWSON was asking for FAR too much. I haven't read an incarnation of the deal that would get me to pull the trigger. Not one. All of them would have taken more away from this team that it was proposing to give them...I mean, take KREIDER out of the playoffs and maybe the Rangers wouldn't have beat Ottawa...take McDONAGH out of the equation and I can almost guarantee they would have lost against the Caps. The only way I like NASH becoming a Rangers is if it happens with NONE of the guys on this current roster going the other way. If Columbus was willing to take Erixon, Miller, Thomas and a first rounder fine. But no way they were going to do that. And the more they dicker with this situation, the less they're gonna be able to get for the guy. The next time I consider Nash deals is after the Rangers' last game of the season...on the PENS..I just think that team is poorly constructed. Certainly they reached a peak and were looking pretty unbeatable toward the end of the season...but you simply can't front load a team like that. Perfect example of a team with too many chiefs and not enough indians...word on the street now is that they're shopping STAAL, which is smart in theory...but I think the real problem is they have to decide who there superstar is...either its gonna be MALKIN or CROSBY. I don't think having both on the team is productive. But screw the Penguins. I hate that team.
tdchi
Mon May 14 2012 9:12 am EST
Hospo, wasn't it you who was my partner in saying the Rangers should have made some trades for a face-off person and some added depth? Don't back out and leave me hanging
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 9:09 am EST
Yorkie, that is true nobody has a crystal ball but I don't think the Rangers get to this point without taking a chance on Richards. I think that guy has helped in many many ways.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 9:04 am EST
I think Brodeur would want Mitchell in over Avery also.
Messier11
Mon May 14 2012 8:55 am EST
Everyone was calling the pens the cup favorite but I said it then and I'll say it again, They peaked at the wrong time about a month too early. As for Nash, who knows what would or could have happened if he came here. Maybe he wouldn't have adapted to the style we play, maybe he couldn't keep up in terms of cardio, maybe he doesn't find chemistry with anyone? Who knows, there is nothing saying he would come here and do anything to help this team win, he could have been the reason for a first round exit. How many have come here and truly lived up to the billing? Not a lot, more have failed here then have flourished. I am happy with what we did because look where we are because of it. Change one thing, anything and it could mean a first round exit. I wouldn't roll those dice, not for a second.
York18
Mon May 14 2012 8:48 am EST
Screw Rick Nash and screw and oither players the Rangers could have brought in, it's obvious by the result and the TEAM play that the Rangers, at the least, made a decent decision to go on as is.......And, personally, I thinbk this team, as is, should beat the Devils....LIke to see the first game before over-analysing how long of a sereis becuase I want to see how the Devils new juggernaut offense goes agianst an NHL d for the first time in weeks.......Hope both DUBI and MZA are available at soem time.........ANd I guaranteed BOB a few months ago the Rangers would make the EC Final (in all hoinesty, I thiought it would be it back then), but before the Cap seies (becasue of the teams left) that they would make it to the CUp, still feeling it.....LGR!!!!
Hospo
Mon May 14 2012 8:46 am EST
td: I think that it will be easier to match the Rangers 4rth line with the Devils 4th line. The Caps had more speed on their 4th, so that hurt the ability of the Rangers 4th line guys...the Devils, well not so much. Again, no guarantee, but it seems like the rangers have the edge...granted there are a couple guys who seem to love playing the Rangers, but they do not have an entire team that can skate with, or physical with the Rangers, nor to they block shots as well. NJD still relies heavily on Marty, and he likes to get the shooting lanes open rather than have shots blocked. I think I read an article that Marty actually said he doesn't like forwards blocking shots at all, so I imagine they still do that less, and that is a positive for the Rangers.
Wildcard
Mon May 14 2012 8:40 am EST
Its funny....the ONLY reason people point to the Devils having some magical ability is because they shut down the Flyers, and the only reason that maters is because the Flyers beat the Pens, and scored a bunch and people were stupidly saying the Pens were "easily the cup favorites" before the playoffs....but in reality, the only reason that the Flyers were able to put up so many goals is that the Pens may be the only team in the NHL that played WORSE D than the Flyers. Neither of those two teams played a structured system in the playoffs, so it was run and gun and both teams got poor goalkeeping, so the goal numbers were over inflated. When the Flyers ran into a system against the Devils, the same thing happened to them as when they played the Rangers, they could not get anything going, and lost due to a poor showing in net. The Devils are not as skilled as the Pens or the Flyers, they just play a system that thinks about D...but they are not as good at it, nor play the same way as the Caps did for this playoffs...and Uncle daddy isn't as good this year as Holtby was...that kid at only 22 had incredible numbers, and never seemed to loose his cool. So with all that long winded crap and opinion, I feel that the Rangers have a better match-up now than they have had all playoffs....and if they play like they did in the other rounds, they should win in 5 or 6....and I hope to god they can just sweep them!! get some rest...but not too much, too many days off and a team can loose that edge and feeling of being on the cliff...that cliff feeling keeps them working hard. Of course they need to play the games, but I feel good about this....and of course, so do the Devils and their fans. Damn blue tinted glasses.
Wildcard
Mon May 14 2012 8:38 am EST
BTW...on the Futurewatch: Michael ST. CROIX and the Edmonton Oil Kings are going to the championship. He's leading the team in playoff scoring...This year's draft pick --Henrik SAMUELSSON --is also having a good series..On AVERY - As someone who was pissed when Tortorella cut him, I've got NO remorse that he's no longer with the team. None at all. I mentioned it a long time ago...that Avery was a guy who marched to his own beat on and off the ice. He never seemed to care about buying into the team concept and always seemed oddly detached from the club. Sure he hammed it up for the cameras...but even on the bench, the guy sat as far away from his teammates as possible...and worse yet, he was a distraction. Not the one you want when you're trying to concentrate on elimination games....Avery on this club would have given Washington all the PP time they needed to eliminate the Rangers. I'm glad he's gone...now WOLSKI is a different story. I know he didn't play too well for us, but he's a body I'd put in the game instead of MITCHELL.
tdchi
Mon May 14 2012 8:31 am EST
Couple things: The DEVILS are a rough squad, that's for sure. And not to sound contradicting but they're playing the same shit hockey that got won them three cups. Make no mistake, this won't be an easy series...BUT...they also haven't played a team even remotely as rough as the Rangers. Not even close. They lucked out with the Panthers in round one and then got a Flyers team that was one injury away from needing a medical triage team. Don't know if anyone read the same thing I did, but apparently the Flyers organization is in the process of simply ASSESSING the number of surgeries the team is going to need. Something like half the team needs to go under the knife...The Devils essentially got a pass on the Flyers...the team wasn't built right to begin with AND they're all injured...No doubt...I mean NO doubt the Rangers are the more talented team in this series. It was VERY close with Washington...but against the Devils? Not even close. The Devils' D is week and aside from ZIDLICKY, they can't move the puck too well...I look up and down their roster and I'm utterly AMAZED they're not only going to the finals, but they've gotten to them as quick as they did. This is a goddamn trash barge of a team...BERNIER...a waiver pickup...PONIKAROVSKY hasn't been effective since he left the Leafs...GIONTA is an AHLer...Zids is goddamn ancient...CARTER...more AHL trash...Ditto with HARROLD...SYKORA is a KHL retread who lost his place in the NHL three years ago...This was a team that many didn't even think would make the playoffs mid-season...Again, not going to say it'll be easy...and I know a few of my Devil-loving friends will probably have fist fights with me over this, but I simply don't see the Rangers losing this...THAT SAID...Tortorella either needs to get DUBINSKY and ZUCCARELLO in the lineup or he has to lengthen his bench. I was pretty shocked to see the ice time allotments Saturday...this team is being carried by its youthful exuberance and that's another place where they've got these guys...the Rangers are MUCH MUCH younger....but skating half the team for 25 minutes a game is a great way to burn them the hell out.Anyway...LETS GO RANGERS!!!
tdchi
Mon May 14 2012 8:31 am EST
RF4L Nash would have as much impact as Richards, Gaborik, or Callihan do. Hard to imagine. But he would be just what the doctor ordered for the next 5 years, if he would fit into the cult. They can't just bring a star anymore. This TEAM has chemistry........
stevielegs
Mon May 14 2012 8:25 am EST
stevie: Ahh...imagine Rick Nash on this club???
RF4L
Mon May 14 2012 8:20 am EST
RF4L et al, ..... nick thinks he invented the grumpy old man, been there done that. I along with Hospo and some others have been calling for going for it for a long while, not the continuing competitive rebuild, and never getting past the 1st or 2nd round. I'm no big sather or tortorella fan, but they are doing their jobs to the best of their abilities. The TEAM has bought in like a cult. That's why Avery is not here, he didn't buy in. I wanted Nash and a D man at the deadline, but hoped I was wrong and they so far have proved that. If Nash was here, they wouldn't have needed to go 7 in either series. I don't miss Dubinsky. This Wall would be a blaze if they didn't win Saturday. It was almost there during and after game 6 . I called for the signing of Richards, while many here didn't want him. Glad as was right about something. ....I want some here to continue to wait for the other shoe to drop, it's instilled in NYR fans hearts and minds. Now I'm hoping for 94 redux, so some more can die in peace. It's been 18 years....( not the nose's ' and this one will last a lifetime' ) .....guess i'm a fair weather fan, like most........the storms have been too many.....let the sunshine in again and again ;-)................GIT-R-DONE .......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stevielegs
Mon May 14 2012 8:18 am EST
Lets not get excited about what the devils did against the Flyers. Hell if we would have played the flyers the Rangers might have won the series in 4 or 5. The Rangers were 6-0 this year against the flyers. The devils struggle with the Rats(panthers). Ottawa just matched up well with the Rangers and Washington was playing as tough a defensive game as anybody in the league.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 8:16 am EST
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/H28X2S3 http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/H2QRMNL these are surveys dealing with the rangers its also for a sportsmarketing class so just please take it
kristenc288
Mon May 14 2012 8:14 am EST
I know many of you won't believe this comment is comming from me but I think Hank shows he is KING this series. Lets go Rangers.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 8:13 am EST
I dont' mind that they are the underdog either. From what I remember, we played pretty well against the Devils this year. I believe one game we were up a goal late and there was a bad bounce off the boards that led to the Devils tying it up and winning in OT or a shootout. Thoughts on Bickel and how much he is going to play? As has been brought up, Devils look good on the forecheck and having Bickel out there scares the crap out of me. Of course if any of the goonery starts, I would love to have him out there. Don't see him playing more than his usual 5 minutes per game.
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 8:13 am EST
Rosival andAvery don't help this team go further. Both maybe, maybe are better players than Mitchell and Bickel but neither do what the other does. Bickel and Mitchell fall in line with what the Compan, the team wants and needs.
KIS
Mon May 14 2012 8:12 am EST
I have never once seen in any playoffs where the second best team in the league and after the first round the team with the best regular season record left in the playoffs is constantly considered the underdog. It's amazing how we are the top team in the east all season and yet everyone in the playoffs is better than us and we will be lucky to get by them. I mean if that's truly the case why even bother having any team miss the playoffs because the worst team in the whole league would still be better than us come playoff time.
York18
Mon May 14 2012 8:05 am EST
Fotiu: Seems like the Rangers are to be depicted as the underdogs throughout these PO's... That's fine.... Anyone know anyway we can keep ButtHead off the Garden Ice when the Rangers recieve "The Cup?"
mf
Mon May 14 2012 8:03 am EST
Fotiu: Seems to me that most of giving the edge to the Rangers (better D, better goalie and more experienced coach). What I don't understand is how the Devils' offense is so suddenly revered. Obviously, Parise and Kovalchoke are excellent players, but after that, I don't get the love; Sykora? Zubrus? Zajac? Clarkson? Better than Stepan, Cally, Hagelin, AA? Really? I'm hoping it's because the Devils have had a relatively easy time in the POs so far and these guys haven't had to work very hard for goals. Zajac with 10 points? Zubrus with 7? What does concern me about that team is their forecheck - they don't trap much anymore, but they love to throw the puck in deep, pound the D and cycle. And most of their forwards are big. I think if the Rangers can handle that they'll be fine...
RF4L
Mon May 14 2012 7:48 am EST
Maybe it is just me but sort of feels like the Rangers are underdogs in this series. Most of the stuff I am reading and watching paints the Devils as better than the Rangers. Maybe I am crazy but I thought the Panthers sucked and could have just as well beaten the Debbies. The Flyers were just terrible in their series since they blew their load against the Pens. I guess we will find out.
Fotiu22
Mon May 14 2012 7:44 am EST
Sean Avery? OMG, who gives a phlying phuck.....
RF4L
Mon May 14 2012 6:10 am EST
I usually never look beyond the current series, but I have to say I am rather encouraged with whoever we face in the finals. I don't think either team can match us in terms of physical play and neither team will out skate us. They are both good teams, but I just don't see either team being able to grind out a physical series with us when you add in the nightly battles and travel.....On Avery, I loved the guy, he was one of my favorite Rangers, but what has happened here is a combination of things. One of them is Torts' dislike for the guy which caused issues that truly didn't need to happen, but Torts' vision of his team got us where we are so it's hard to argue. I believe Avery's somewhat nonchalant attitude at times is what didn't help the situation with Torts in terms of conditioning and practice. Avery going down to the Whale and doing what he did is inexcusable end of story. I wouldn't want him in this series right now simply because one he would be a distraction and two I don't think he would have the same impact he once had.
York18
Mon May 14 2012 3:14 am EST
I want to add one last thing. Boy do I think its important for this franchise going forward, to make it to the ECF's this season. I don't know what Hank said in the post-game shows in NA, but I saw a interview with Swedish-TV and he was really really really relieved of finally getitng past the first two rounds. There's definitely a mold of teams that work like idiots in the regular season but become cannon fodder once the PO's start. The buzz around a team definitely matters, and going forward the buzz around this team will -- no matter what, unless we win of course ;) -- be if we can take the next step. Which is tremendously diffrent from what the buzz would have been if we lost to Was. Then it would have been "Can Hank play in the PO's?". "Can we play the style we do all season and have `anything´ left for the POs?". "Is someone like Callahan just a pretender or can he get it done when it matters?".
Ola
Mon May 14 2012 3:04 am EST
The decision to "go with Mitchell" is very interesting IMO. I definitely believe that Slats& Torts didn't opt to go with Mitchell because they didn't believe in the value of assets we would have been forced to give up vs the importance of upgrades we could have received at the deadline. I think this solely was a decision made with respect of the locker room. When consulted, I think Callahan's message from the room was -- we want to go with what we got. They did not want 2-3 players like Antropov and Morris, if you get what I mean. Or Brian Roloson and Hall Gill, or whatever. I think it's a maturity issue. Like what do I know, but in 2-3 years, I would believe that the same guys would be open to take in 1-2 guys into the room because depth is always an issue if you go deep. Especially if you play the way we do. But this team this year have done everything their own way, and they wanted to keep doing that. BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE MADE SENSE ALL THE WAY TO ADD A COUPLE OF PLAYERS. We are definitely a tad worn out already. And its easy to forget that we only are half way through the PO's. 50% is still left. But I don't fault the room and I don't fault Slats & Torts. Its important to take these things step by step.
Ola
Mon May 14 2012 2:53 am EST
TS- Or did we reach the ECF with 9-10 forwards and 5 Ds??? ;)
Ola
Mon May 14 2012 2:52 am EST
E- Yeah, and they got a D in Drew Doughty playing at the level of like Scott Niedermayer's play for Anaheim when they won. Like McD have been so valuble for us, but someone like Doughty add like 20-30 percent to that. But overall, I think LA is a little hard to pinpoint in terms of how good they really are. The West has traditionally been strong the last handful of years. But this year the "rich" have been beaten by the "hungry", not by "richer" teams if you get what I mean. I mean, LA could get there, they have alot of talent, but their overall play as a team can't be compared with the Detroit, Chicago, Anaheim and Vancouver-teams we have seen go deep/win previous years. For sure. They just don't have that dominant dimension with the puck. Not yet atleast. Neither can of course STL, PHX or Nashville. Or I could be wrong, maybe STL were a super good team and LA even better then that. But that's atleast not my take on it so far.
Ola
Mon May 14 2012 12:20 am EST
Rangers reached the ECF's with John Mitchell. Torts reached his boiling point with Sean Avery.He is a distraction. Hence addition by subtraction. Mitchell is playing on a regular basis due to the injuries to Dubinsky and possible MZA. Would u rather see John Scott out there? (cough cough)
TradeStar28
Sun May 13 2012 11:55 pm EST
Anyone want to argue on behalf of John Mitchell's spot in the roster over that of Sean Avery going into this series
Messier11
Sun May 13 2012 10:21 pm EST
LA was all over Phoenix. They are starting to have that look about them.
E
Sun May 13 2012 9:40 pm EST
I was one of Rozi's biggest critics but he wouldn't look to bad in Bickel's spot about now....Seems I remember us getting hosed on a goalie inteference call in a game against the Devils this year...Gabby was shoved into Fatso and the late goal was disallowed....He will be dropping like he was shot if we even breath on him....Will be crying to the refs all game....
PJ
Sun May 13 2012 8:53 pm EST
Roszival was traded for Wolski. I just went through the boxscores of the 6 games against the Devils and the Rangers actually scored 2 Empty Net goals during 2 of those games. The one on 2/27 might have been the last time they scored an EN goal.
DOUBLEN
Sun May 13 2012 8:50 pm EST
FM 94- I have that vision blocked from my memory!
Fotiu22
Sun May 13 2012 8:45 pm EST
Mf....thanks. Question who did we get for Rozival? Surprised he's still playing.
MelvilleFred
Sun May 13 2012 8:30 pm EST
MFred: Me thinks Nash is gonna cost a bundle..... This upcoming series will showcase Parise, so, we'll have a great opportunty to evaluate him.... He only costs money, no players.....
mf
Sun May 13 2012 8:29 pm EST
And, happy mother's day to all you MF's on the wall.
FerociousMonk94
Sun May 13 2012 8:28 pm EST
MFred: Happy belated birthday, Happy Mothers Day to any Mom's of the Wall.....
mf
Sun May 13 2012 8:08 pm EST
I want Nash next year.......
MelvilleFred
Sun May 13 2012 7:56 pm EST
FOTIU...That was Ron Francis vs. Mike Richter redux!
FerociousMonk94
Sun May 13 2012 7:54 pm EST
Two weak goals in the WC Finals. Derek Morris scored from Center Ice.....
Fotiu22
Sun May 13 2012 7:48 pm EST
stevie: Wow...talk about an about-face: Seems to me not to long ago you were amongst the most consistently negative/critical on this board about almost everything Ranger. Will the real stevielegs please stand up!!!!
RF4L
Sun May 13 2012 6:11 pm EST
Stevielegs......take it easy, we're all with the Rangers in our own different ways....we all want to get to the promised land!!
MelvilleFred
Sun May 13 2012 3:45 pm EST
So my wife was commenting on Doc Emrick's lack of professionalism and the fact thathe seemed openly rooting for the Caps (even little subtle things like talking about how there was 30 seconds left on the Caps PK and how it was a defensive zone draw) and then his calling the goal when Hank stopped 'em. I told her he was a former Devils broadcaster, but I wasn't sure how long. She looked him up and I forgot that he also worked for the Flyers and the Penguins! No wonder I hate that guy! All he needs is the Islanders to complete his Axis of Evil card set!
ColoradoMark
Sun May 13 2012 3:28 pm EST
Hey, I'll be the last one to throw stones at anyone who lkes to drink. Just combine that with "asshole", and you've got someone who is very punchable. McGuire is punchable, alcohol or not....and I don't think anyone here mentioned that, amid the copious pandering to the Caps by NBC, McGuire asked Richards after the game in pure, condescending, Katie Couric fashion, "Do you think your team is GOOD ENOUGH to make it to the finals?". If Richards weren't such a nice and humble guy, he would have countered with a Tortorella-esque "What the hell kind of question is that?".
FerociousMonk94
Sun May 13 2012 3:05 pm EST
Dineen Thats right it was Holmgren who got caught, I just seem to remember from somewhere that Pierre liked to drink to not where then.
York18
Sun May 13 2012 2:56 pm EST
York - I think you are thinking of the wrong Hartford Whaler guy with him public drunkenness. PAUL HOLMGREN was in a drunk driving accident and sent to Betty Ford when he was GM for the Whalers... PIERRE MCGUIRE was head coach of the team at that time...shortly before ths HOLMGREN incident, 7 Whalers players (and an assistant coach) were arrested after a brawl at a bar in Buffalo. They were violating curfew set up by MCGUIRE...more evidence that the team had no respect for him. He was hated by players and fans alike. I remember going to games and there being deafening "FIRE MCGUIRE!" chants... I think a couple years later he had to forfeit some of his pay because he shared confidential info with another team during an arbitration hearing...what a moron.
Dineen11
Sun May 13 2012 12:48 pm EST
STEVE, Wasn't it I who came on last night after the game and reassured you nervous nellies that we'd be fine? And lo and behold we were. That was me talking you off the ledge. And you're calling ME a doubting Thomas?? Ha!
FerociousMonk94
Sun May 13 2012 11:48 am EST
Great effort last nite! Of all the teams we have faced I fear the debbs the least. Uncle. Daddy is a sive and can easily be beaten and really folks when has he ever beaten us? We need to make this a short series if we can. I hope we start game 1 with a brawl and keeo shooting on marty ..let's go rangers!
thedugster
Sun May 13 2012 11:33 am EST
Sh*t.. NJD series starts tomorrow... I was thinking WEN for some reason.. would like to see those legs and bruises get rested and healed... I watched alot of the NJD series and I will say this... the Devils have improved ALOT since the start of the season... Parise is flying all over the ice w immense skill... Kovulchuck is dominating play more than the stars of the past series (Spezza and Ovechkin) and then the muckers of Henrique, Clarkson, Zubrus etc are STRONG on the boards.. THis is going to be TOUGH series... Check the size of the Devils lineup.. they are HUGE! Rangers need to get the powerplay untracked... its really their only weakness right now... I would like seeing the defense carrying the puck through the neutral zone more frequently...
schneidw
Sun May 13 2012 11:25 am EST
CALLAHAN- I would not be suprised to learn that Callahan has been playing with a broken hand from blockig the shot in Game 6 in Ottowa.. He really doesnt seem to be himself...
schneidw
Sun May 13 2012 11:16 am EST
Just curious if any has seen a good replay of the Boyle disallowed goal? Doesn't matter now but if Wash tied it, it would be all we talked about today! It boggles my mind at all the cummulitive BS that has been called against the Rangers these playoffs. The Rangers might have been able to win the first series in 5 if not for a ton of NHL 'help' for the Sens. Rangers might not have to face the Debbies after already playing 14 playoff games. Not sour grapes because our team is still playing and the NHL can suck it, but I'm worried what the brainless trust is going to pull in this Debbies series. The Marty circle jerk love fest is going to make me puke and the ice tilting we are going to witness is going to cause an aneurysm. Hope I'm wrong, but nothing we have witnessed so far gives me any. LETS GO RANGERS!!!!!
NYStranger
Sun May 13 2012 10:32 am EST
…and I just have to note: HAGELIN can be a monster if he learns to play like that consistently. You have been seeing glimmers of that type of play during this playoffs run. Last night, he was a force. He was hard on every single puck. He forced several bad passes with his speed and closure rate. And he finished his checks. He looked like Callahan if Callahan was on meth. As for Del0? I officially recant everything I have ever said about the guy. The guy can play offense. He just has to put pucks on the net, something he hasn't done consistently but did an ever improving job as the playoffs have worn on. All in all, the yute's got their chances and they delivered. The NYR defense is stifling. As a group, they are BY FAR the best defense of the remaining teams. Doesn't mean that they will win anything because the point is still to put the puck in the net. One thing is undeniable. You give them a 2-goal lead to work with? The other team is in deep do-do.
E
Sun May 13 2012 10:24 am EST
The issue with the NJD too me is that they can jump you fast and hard. But they also take more chances. They are deep, big, & nasty. They also have the extra motivation in that they are the NJD. But I think that as a series, this one will be more entertaining. This NJD team is a much better matchup for the NYR then Washington was. There will be a lot more room for the NYR transition game to get going. And you will be able to get better match ups down low because their forwards do pinch up the boards looking to go the other way. The game plan is as always. You take the game down low and you keep it there. They clear, you clog middle ice, take away the passing lanes and put the puck down deep and forecheck again. I like the NYR odds in this series. NYR in 7.
E
Sun May 13 2012 10:18 am EST
Wildcard..........I agree on Anisimov. He seems to be Tort's favorite whipping boy of late but I like him, a lot. He works hard, kills penalties, plays C or W, is good enough to play PP, can play on all 4 lines with anyone and scores timely goals..........what's not to like ?
Newfie_Ranger
Sun May 13 2012 10:04 am EST
to all the doubting Thomas' , keep up the lack of faith( right nick & fm, to name 2 ) .....amen to the signing of Richards..... and Gaborik......just hope the debbies didn't figure out what the NYR figured out on beating their own system the craps tried using on them.....SHOOT THE PUCK !!!!!!!!!!!......nbc keep up your bs, the underdogs are doing fine, they don't need your bs , scripted by synder.and buttman ......the NYR TEAM needs 8 more wins........one at a time.........
stevielegs
Sun May 13 2012 10:02 am EST
Yorkie, good to see you on here this weekend. Sorry about hearing the rough times again. Its the hardest game I've ever been involved in. unfortunately its no game but life. Good seeing the rangers win . Hope things get better for you. Stay strong, I'm sure the child loves you and he/she needs you.
KIS
Sun May 13 2012 9:50 am EST
I think the Rangers are going to the Cup finals. Once there who knows LA or the Coyotes will be a series for sure but really like our chances in a 7 game series against any of the teams that are left. The rangers have been playing playoff style hockey for most of the year, One goal tight checking games.
barto
Sun May 13 2012 9:47 am EST
York: I think it will be easier for Kreider to get moving against the Devils. The Caps really did a great job positionaly and used angles to negate a lot of the rangers speed. The Devils have not shown they can do that as well...not that they can't do it at times, and cant win a game that way, but I think the Rangers speed will hurt them more than it hurt the Sens and Caps.
Wildcard
Sun May 13 2012 9:39 am EST
I think lost in the fray last night was Anisimov. He played a better all around game and was more physical than I have ever seen in the 3rd period. He stepped up in a big game and helped this team win. Now I want to see him do it regularly. However it was nice to see him bring a different level to the ice.
Wildcard
Sun May 13 2012 9:01 am EST
Now we know and the world knows just what Richards brings to the table. The six sec goal to save the series and now the first shot on goal to win game 7 !...... ( + face-offs and def zone coverage)..........oh, and did I mention that Hank needs a RAISE !
Newfie_Ranger
Sun May 13 2012 8:51 am EST
IMO, with Kovalchoke and Parise, the Devils at least match the Rangers top pairing of Richards and Gabbie, but after that, the Rangers are better. More forward depth and clearly a better top 4 on the backline. And Brodeur was one day an excellent goalie, but he's 40 now and understandably, there are flaws in his game. He flops around more now and is prone to weak goals. I'm not sure if the Devils will be able to collapse in front of him as effectively as the Caps did with Holtby, but regardless, the Rangers should do as they did with the Caps and fire as many pucks at him as possible. Crashing the net more than they did against the Caps wouldn't hurt, either.
RF4L
Sun May 13 2012 8:47 am EST
Dunno if the NBC feed showed this, but right after the Caps scored their goal, CBC showed MDZ looking like he wanted to cry on the bench and Prust, right next to him, consoling him. A pat on the thigh and words - totally cool.
RF4L
Sun May 13 2012 8:45 am EST
Playing Kreider is essential in this series, his speed and big body will wear down the Devils D over a 7 game series. Look at the difference between having him in and out of the lineup we are faster and better with him there. I can live with his occasional gaff.
York18
Sun May 13 2012 8:40 am EST
Congrats to the ranger players they deserve an otta boy. Torts can be a prick but have to hand it to him he has these guys playing like his personality. Hard on the puck in your face no space to move hockey. If they can put together 4 games like last night it's gonna be over fairly quickly. I wonder if the age of some of the players coupled with the Rangers style will have allot of bearing on NJD.
barto
Sun May 13 2012 7:33 am EST
Nick...you are so right....there will definitely be alot of "man love" between the tools at NBC and Brodeur.......and it will be nauseating.
MelvilleFred
Sun May 13 2012 7:13 am EST
I just see our team giving fits to the Devils with the constant physical play and grinding them down. I think Philly was a weaker team and would have preferred to face them, but NJ is going to try and match us and will eventually wear down and get tired. We do that to each team. Look at both of our game 7's we looked faster, stronger, and better than both teams because the other teams were worn down and the rangers are prepared to play a whole season let alone 7 games over an every other night schedule. It's easy to play one game and win against us and then not see us again for a few weeks, or months. It's another thing to be forced to play our style game every other night over two weeks and I don't think the devils can match that.
York18
Sun May 13 2012 7:01 am EST
Team USA could really use McD, Cally, Stepan, Boyle, and Kreider, but they're busy. Those are just 5 of our 11 American born Rangers. Not sure which team has the most, but that seems like a lot.
nyfans
Sun May 13 2012 6:53 am EST
York- I agree, we have beaten the 8th and 7th seed, and will now play the 6th seed. We have had out struggles of our own for sure, but the biggest problem for us is that we have made rookie misstakes and lost our composure alot. From down right giving up goals to being ambushed by Neil, Carkner and co. In a best of 7 series, every game is of course important. But the way to beat this NJD team is definitely to match their discipline defensively while exposing their net/defensive problems. And we need to do it from the drop of the puck in G1. If we do that, Parise and Kova will get frustrated with out D's. Hank will outperform Marty. And we will get rolling by frustrating NJD on the ice and, lets not underestimate this, dominate in the stands.
Ola
Sun May 13 2012 6:05 am EST
HHS? that would be 'the.' auto correct strikes.
Nick
Sun May 13 2012 6:03 am EST
York each series is different but the NJD needed 7 games and OT in the last two to beat the weakest team in the POs. And the Flyers D and goalie were no great shakes. I tend to overrated Phila living down here and hating HHS idea if losing to them, and wanting to avoid that matchup. But NJD is now faced with an actual D and goalie. The Brodeur-NBC love-fest is gonna be pretty intolerable but beating the guy would be sweet.
Nick
Sun May 13 2012 5:56 am EST
I'm not that worried about Kova, he has been and always is a mental case. The guy is very easy to throw off his game and once you do he has trouble getting it back. It's funny because here we are again and we will go into another series as the underdogs, but I think that's a good thing. Let them think they have an advantage. The real question is can the Devs grind out a seven game series playing against this teams style and system? I don't think so. We contained a better team in the caps IMO and will do it again this series. If our PP ever wakes up look out this series will be done quick. Even NBC broadcast team were saying that the Rangers are better 5on5 than a man up.
York18
Sun May 13 2012 5:45 am EST
Nick were you also at don larsens perfect game saying this game is going to extra innings?
stevielegs
Sun May 13 2012 5:36 am EST
Mfred welcome to the 60 s but it's a different kind of sex drugs and rock n roll. Be careful not to overdose like nick did on Viagra (known as sex drugs) while he rocked out to Barry manilow . ... and don't mix it with rogaine or you will get a don king haircut . ....nick is trying to find someone in the home with Parkinsons.......instead of doing and being one himself .....
stevielegs
Sun May 13 2012 5:19 am EST
Nick you ignorant fool old fart , you tried to jinx then genius senile gumby. It's like posting while the other team is being shut out that you don't think it will be a shut out ....... Now shut up about your feelings and opinions and fears or whatever you want to call that assine incorrect post. Move on and go move your bowels. Drop It already .... I say your were hoping for ot so you could cry about how bad they were in not holding the lead. Go read your bs from game 6 and beyond. Try a tug McGraw in the next round. Have a nice day at the home see if they have a group hug brunch and a farting contest. you will probably lose but in ot. Then again you just might win tug. Good luck.
stevielegs
Sun May 13 2012 12:54 am EST
Well, they are sure to make this a heart attack again, but I believe we are going to the finals. We win the goalie matchup big time. We always play well in NJ. Bring on Fatso.
Bob
Sun May 13 2012 12:48 am EST
RF4L: No, the 'all' was a very small group! I stand on my right to post my fear of the third period ( I mean geez, are people orchids here? Don't post a negative word at a 'sensitive' time?) but should have left that other bit of business out.
Nick
Sun May 13 2012 12:35 am EST
oops...make that 6...I am emotionally drained
TradeStar28
Sun May 13 2012 12:28 am EST
Kovalchoke ---> Parise ----> Clarkson ---> Elias ---> Zubrus ---> Sykora..........These are the 5 guys the Rangers need to concentrate on the most........The first 2 are game breakers like Ovi and Backstrom........Looking @ the debbies D, they rely a lot on Bryce Salvador in regard to TOI...........Also it interesting to note that the Debbies roll 4 lines and distribute minutes unlike the Rangers.
TradeStar28
Sun May 13 2012 12:21 am EST
RF4L.....The only one the Rangers need to be concerned with is David Clarkson....This is where guys like Rupp and Prust need to step in big time......Especially Rupp because if he takes Clarkson off his game and into the penalty box with him, it is a clear advantage to the Rangers.....
TradeStar28
Sun May 13 2012 12:05 am EST
Trade: I'll bet at least Janssens is dressed. He, along with Ryan Carter, gives them 2/3's of their line brawlers. And of course, lurking in the weeds, ready to run Lundvqist and challenge the likes of MDZ and Stepan to a fight will be David Fartson....
RF4L
Sun May 13 2012 12:03 am EST
sjw: Something tells me Semin will be in the KHL with their shitty planes, arenas and health care next year. If so, good riddance you underachieving piece of malcontented crap....
RF4L
Sun May 13 2012 12:01 am EST
Nick: I was talking about the reaction to your post about feeling that OT was looming - hell way more negative things get posted on here about the Rangers on a regular basis. The collective 'phuck you' I ain't so quick to forgive, unless you tell me now I wasn't included! ;^)
RF4L
Sat May 12 2012 11:58 pm EST
RF4L: Tensions were high and I shouldn't have responded, at least in the manner I did. It was my gut feeling, but hey.
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 11:54 pm EST
Is there a more overated player than Semin ????
sjw
Sat May 12 2012 11:48 pm EST
I agree.....Devils would be stupid to start off with that crap.....they have the advantage in Game 1 with the extra rest they have....they'll start the dirty crap after we start making Brodeur look like Swiss cheese and we're making them look like fools...THEN they'll dress their goons.,,,,,and we'll be ready for an appropriate response. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MELLVILLE FRED!!
JFC31
Sat May 12 2012 11:43 pm EST
I do not think the Debbies insert Jansenns or Boulton into the lineup. I think the only guy who would sit if they did put one in would be S. Gionta.
TradeStar28
Sat May 12 2012 11:34 pm EST
Hospo: LOL...I've postponed by yearly physical twice already this POs - I don't want my blood pressure meds upped under false pretenses...
RF4L
Sat May 12 2012 11:28 pm EST
RF4L - Hell, I think it's possible for the Rangers to win the Stanley Cup (going 4-3 in the next two series) while only being like 2-3 games above .500 since March 2nd.......Should we expect anything else from these blue-collared blue shirts????..Torture, aggravation, obsession, heart burn, hell, maybe even a minor heart attack or two!
Hospo
Sat May 12 2012 11:27 pm EST
Trade: Or faster than Unc Dad booted out his first wife!
RF4L
Sat May 12 2012 11:26 pm EST
If the Rangers beat the Devils then their 2 Cup appearances in the last 18 years would be bookended by beating Brodeur in the Conference Finals.
DOUBLEN
Sat May 12 2012 11:25 pm EST
That save by Henrik on Knuble was world class,,,,,,,,The King kicked that leg out faster than Marty kicks out a fork on a bowl of pasta...wowsers!
TradeStar28
Sat May 12 2012 11:22 pm EST
start the roller-coaster ride again on Monday
KIS
Sat May 12 2012 11:22 pm EST
KIS: LOL..fun when they win, torture when they don't. Alas, 14 PO games so far and the score is 8-6!!!!
RF4L
Sat May 12 2012 11:20 pm EST
congrats rangers and ranger fans. Its a good night so happy and so proud to be a ranger fan. boys on to some more frustrating and nervous nights ahead. I though the defense was fantastic tonight. Hagelin did so much work. McD and Girardi were tough and this is the exact Richards get the contact he does. The King even made some great saves. I dont know if this is fun or torture?
KIS
Sat May 12 2012 11:19 pm EST
And for sure, there's gonna be so much over the top crap about Uncle Daddy.....hopefully, he gets exposed by the Rangers for what is is: A great goalie well past his prime....
RF4L
Sat May 12 2012 11:17 pm EST
And Nick: OMG, you were so totally unfairly lambasted on here for a negative post - this board was rife with far more negative posts in game 6. Shame on those who jumped on you....!!!!!
RF4L
Sat May 12 2012 11:15 pm EST
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww....what a phucking game and series!! OMG, can this team ever not do anything without serious drama!!! How so amazingly typical of this edition to go up 2-0 for the grand total of 38 phucking seconds??!?!? I was on pins and needles from the drop of the damn puck, HUGELY pumped when they went up quickly, then nervous as phuck until MDZ pounded in that 2nd goal...then had the damn nerve to relax....FOR LIKE A MINUTE!! Woooooooooooooooooooohoooooooooo though!!! Woooooo-phucking-wooooooooooooooo!
RF4L
Sat May 12 2012 11:13 pm EST
Speakin of old guys, I hope Marty does the splits and shits himself. It is freaking unreal thatbthese retreads are still winning playoff series. Come on Rangers lets show them who the top dogs in the East are!
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 11:12 pm EST
Thanks Nick.....may we see one more CUP....don't want to get greedy and think we could be around for 2!
MelvilleFred
Sat May 12 2012 11:09 pm EST
Fred happy birthday fellow old guy!
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 11:08 pm EST
Hospo...thanks much.... :>) The Belgian Beer is tasting that much better tonight.
MelvilleFred
Sat May 12 2012 11:06 pm EST
So let me get this straight...Nick posted "I see OT" and that unleashed this current shit storm.....have you all lost your minds?? WTF....I'm sure he thought as I did his head was going to explode so to release some pressure he's hoping not to loose in regulation which could have happened, this is the Rangers we're talking about and being nearly as old as Nick I have shared in way to many dissapointments. 1 F'in CUP in 72 years Gentlemen. That's alot of heartbreak and makes us older guys gunshy! I am truly hoping we don't see some Brodeur miracle bullshit.
MelvilleFred
Sat May 12 2012 11:05 pm EST
Dubi was out of his walking cast today...No real updates other than that
TradeStar28
Sat May 12 2012 11:04 pm EST
Do we know what is wrong with Dubi? Dont know if I missed it but havent heard anything about his injury
Topovski
Sat May 12 2012 10:57 pm EST
Melville lets hope you are right :-)
Topovski
Sat May 12 2012 10:57 pm EST
Game 1: Devils at Rangers Monday, May 14, at 8 p.m.///// Game 2: Devils at Rangers Wednesday, May 16, at 8 p.m. ///// Game 3: Rangers at Devils Saturday, May 19, at 1 p.m. ///// Game 4: Rangers at Devils Monday, May 21, at 8 p.
TradeStar28
Sat May 12 2012 10:56 pm EST
MELVILLE - A great present..and I have to say it becasue you are one of the few I can say it to on here...HAPPY BIRTH DAY OLD MAN!!! :)
Hospo
Sat May 12 2012 10:55 pm EST
stevie: 1978: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtSPFXj_eZM
mf
Sat May 12 2012 10:54 pm EST
DOUBLEN - Gotta be..That along with the "nobody expected them" Devils..and how they manhandle that great Flyer squad...and their newly found offense juggernaut vs the Rangers feeble one...paying no mind to the fact the Devils played a nutcase goalies. and a scared swiss cheese defense in Philly...
Hospo
Sat May 12 2012 10:54 pm EST
TOP....that means Melrose is due......
MelvilleFred
Sat May 12 2012 10:53 pm EST
Rewatching the third ... what happened on the Ovechkin shot just before the MDZ goal? Either that was a huge save, deflected block or a miss. 40-foot blast straight on ... NBC passed by it.
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 10:52 pm EST
...and to think that on my 6oth Birthday the Rangers didn't kill me but gave a great gift has restored my faith in this team. Lets Go Rangers!!!!
MelvilleFred
Sat May 12 2012 10:50 pm EST
Now that we got done with all the Holtby Hype, NBC will be nonstop about the 40 year old Brodeur.
DOUBLEN
Sat May 12 2012 10:47 pm EST
BTW- what was Torts so irate about in the 2nd period with about 11 min left? He was screaming at the refs.....wasnt sure why
TradeStar28
Sat May 12 2012 10:44 pm EST
mf what year was that ? ;-)
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 10:42 pm EST
JGR=LGR
Jerry_Garcia
Sat May 12 2012 10:41 pm EST
Stevie: Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor ???? Toga, toga, toga
mf
Sat May 12 2012 10:40 pm EST
mf: Nice!!! JGR
Jerry_Garcia
Sat May 12 2012 10:37 pm EST
JG: And we got no chance of losin,.....this time
mf
Sat May 12 2012 10:36 pm EST
TOP - I saw that...and felt good about somebody giving the Rangers some due respect...but didn't know the history of his picks......You guys are right, the underdog role is easier and I hope the NBC yahoos keep pimping ghe Devils......Honsetly, this was a game I almost doidn;t watch. not wanting to see a loss in a game and series I thought they should have won (but not easily)...but I manned up and watched.....The rest is all gravy even if I think they should beat the Devils too!
Hospo
Sat May 12 2012 10:34 pm EST
jerry too much acid, that was the fishsticks.....it's maarrrtay........
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 10:32 pm EST
Tell this town ain't got no Heart... Just gotta poke around! What A GREAT FUCKEN Win tonight. NY RANGERS, I thank you! Who could ask for a better next victims then the Debbie's. Beat you WIFE Potvin Beat your wife!
Jerry_Garcia
Sat May 12 2012 10:31 pm EST
Hospo, nothing can drive me away at this point! Hey, Ranger fandom runs deep and I annoyed some people. We move on. As do the NYR - and yes this was a stellar effort!
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 10:31 pm EST
Oh Noooooo! Melrose picked the rangers to beat the devils....so far he's been wrong every time....
Topovski
Sat May 12 2012 10:30 pm EST
nick then nothing here should affect you.....now go put your teeth in the glass of water......after you remove your foot.......Nickstradamus......
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 10:30 pm EST
NIck..better watch out for that flaming bag of dog crap on your porch......ON TO THE DEVILS!.....Do they play hockey or dressss Boulton and Cam Janssens?? :)
Hospo
Sat May 12 2012 10:28 pm EST
Schneidw, I'm thinking 1979. Saw that one On the TV machine, as I called it. :-)
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 10:28 pm EST
OH yeah, just love the big FU to NBC and the NHL Network.....especially that sawed off bald headed nimrod who, I ahve to beleive, only job was to counter every single statement about the Rangers with his own take on ho great the Caps were.............ANd NICK keep on posting whatever you want.....I've seen a hell of alot worse on here.....ANd.I appreciate your honest feelings more then the lack of class and poise elsewhere,,,,,Speaking of class and poise, damn, do the RANGERS have that in spades!
Hospo
Sat May 12 2012 10:27 pm EST
Congrats NY Rangers.....and congrats to the wall...... Hockey in mid May! Clean the slate and let's move on to the Eastern Finals! Happy days are here again (Nick graduated high school with Tom Bosley)
TradeStar28
Sat May 12 2012 10:26 pm EST
Yeah my response was one step short of 'hey you kids get off my lawn' but geez. Nothing said here affects, you know, the game. Christ, it's a bulletin board.
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 10:21 pm EST
Amazing what happens wen you play 4 lines(kinda) versus 7 forwards!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 10:20 pm EST
Nick you dinosaur ;-) I was at MSG during the classic Boston game where OReilly climbed in the stands and beat the NYR fan w his shoe.... Classic.. Don't recall the year, but I am getting up there myself!
schneidw
Sat May 12 2012 10:18 pm EST
schneidw: answer: Gary Bung-holio Butthead
mf
Sat May 12 2012 10:17 pm EST
Country alliance... very cool to see in the handshake line all the Swedes, Russians etc giving an extra pat on teh back to their fellow country men... Hockey is so fucking unique.. how the hell is it not the #1 sport in teh USA??? Or at least #2 after the NFL?
schneidw
Sat May 12 2012 10:13 pm EST
DAMN, Just what I needed...At least another two weeks of this agony and obsession!!! A GREAT, GREAT effort by the New Yoork Rangers from every player and the coach...They stuck to their game as they should ahve and just did things better...the caoch and leaders had them ready...They played great team D.....and the offense had some spark and was just enough, and that's all we need.....Looking for more of the same against the Devils, but me thinks it will be a little more nasty the first few games with the Devils knowing the Rangers have been trough 14 games of all out hockey war already....The Rangers will be ready though!
Hospo
Sat May 12 2012 10:12 pm EST
Bring on Uncle Daddy baby!
Bob
Sat May 12 2012 10:09 pm EST
Nick, the fact that you date back as a Ranger fan to the Bun Cook era makes sit an especially DB post. Just saying, I am in my living room trying to feel comfortable with the amount of goat's blood I have procured to ward off the evil capitals and you blurt out a post about OT? Rocked my mojo MFer
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 10:05 pm EST
And yeah -- 'neutral site ' in Newark ... That will sound great on NYR goals. I remember Resch crying after the Rangers beat them several years ago about that. Loved it.
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 10:03 pm EST
Nick, Are you being Indian giver? :->) You canttake back a "mass fuck you" roll with the punches dude.... Wewon, thats all that matters....... Its time to prepare to slew Uncle Daddy...... Lets go Rannnnnngerrrrrsss
mf
Sat May 12 2012 10:03 pm EST
Scneid, no unfortunately Nick said something stupid, but judging by how old he is making himself sound it cuold have been a senior moment. He just caught me while having a really long and bad couple days. Thank god I have the Rangers winning tonight because if I didn't who knows what Id be doing.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 10:02 pm EST
The Moses 15-10 was pretty funny actually. Hey you think I wasn't pinning and needling? Christ my heart was pounding like a drum that last 10 minutes ...
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 10:01 pm EST
Hey and we are facing the Devils is almost like having home ice even playing in Jersey since half their fans never show up to games.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 10:00 pm EST
York18 is BACK!
schneidw
Sat May 12 2012 9:59 pm EST
The 2012 have officially exceeded my expectations...that was a DOMINATING game 7 performance... just exhilirating! So glad to send the Capitals packing because they have knocked out teh NYRs the past 2 of 3 years... I have respect for alot of their player.s.. very lilttle dirty cheap shot play unlike the Ottawa series.. the NYRs are relatively healthy heading into a NJD series.... I saw game 7 of the PHL game, Zidclicky and Zubrus are dinged up bad.. the NJD defense is SUSPECT! NYRs should handled them.....
schneidw
Sat May 12 2012 9:59 pm EST
Play nice girls, our team dominated most of the game & won,thats all that matters....... Stevie..the count-down continues.....Lets Go Rangers!!!! Yeah Baby !!!!
mf
Sat May 12 2012 9:59 pm EST
Nick being classy would have not said what you said on a Rangers forum where everyone is on pins and needles. If you notice no one is giving you a pass on your comment. The moses thing was a joke, but I guess it's wrong to joke but okay to say stupid crap like you did?
York18
Sat May 12 2012 9:58 pm EST
I apologize for the mass 'fuck you all.' But I figured I could post an opinion here and not get raked for insufficient confidence. Whatever. Enjoy the night.
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 9:58 pm EST
YORK... Yeah, that's the only thing that helps me sleep at night :)
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 9:56 pm EST
Yeah...no team has ever played 14 games in the first 2 rounds and won the ECF or WCF...HOWEVER normally those teams with 2 game 7 wins end up with out home ice in the CF. The Rangers have a good situation...doesn't guarantee anything, but it makes the chance lean their way. At least IMHO
Wildcard
Sat May 12 2012 9:54 pm EST
nice to finally make it past the 2nd round....thanks drury.....
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 9:52 pm EST
Thanks, York. You remain the classy person you've always been.
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 9:52 pm EST
right back at you nick, old fart......
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 9:42 pm EST
RHet, but remember another fact the team that has played in the winter classic since it has started has played in the cup finals and we are the only team left from the winter classic.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 9:41 pm EST
Nick we you also there when Moses brought down the 15 (crash) I mean 10 commandments? Doesn't matter how old you are it was a douche thing to say.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 9:39 pm EST
NYSTRANGER... I keep waiting for this team to take charge in a series... Honestly, I don't think the Caps or Devils are as good as the Senators were... we just need to step up and play our brand of hockey EVERY PERIOD and EVERY GAME... It is the playoffs after all... We let the Caps back in to this series, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT ANYMORE. It would be nice to go up 2-0 on the Devils to start off the next round.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 9:33 pm EST
Rhet the Rangers keeps proving that they can, and that they have to do it the hard way. I hope we knock out Fattys dentures in this ECFinals series.
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 9:30 pm EST
Historically, No team has ever Won the Eastern or Western Conference Finals after going 7 games in each of their first two series... We have that to shoot for.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 9:30 pm EST
Yeah, and my 16 year-old son, who just became a full Rangers fan this season, has now gotten a full taste of what it's like and the SH!T we have to deal with.....that was a G-damned goal by Boyle and there was NO REASON for that effin' ref to have called it dead....NONE. The refs' first thought is always blowing a RAngers chance DEAD, when the 1st instinct SHOULD BE to leave it open for review,. That was a steamin' pile of poop, that was! My son was freaking out screaming.....I was so proud! Welcome to RAngerLand, my son!! Bastard NHL refs!
JFC31
Sat May 12 2012 9:28 pm EST
Hey all -- what the fuck? Not fanboy enough? I'm not one to claim credit for living long, but I was spending money and tears on this club before most of you were born! I was in the OLD Garden in 1966 when the crowd garbaged Ed Giacomin just before his emergence ... I was there for the Stemmer goal ... I was there to see Boston carry the Cup and watch that POS Cashman taunt us as they did so! So now I'm a douchebag for thinking the Caps would tie??? Fuck you all very much for that!
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 9:26 pm EST
BRING ON THE DEVILS!!!! We dominated this game from beginning to end except for a short when the puck stayed in our end for seemed like forever. But, we were much more poised than the CAps and much more aggressive than the Caps. The Rangers seemed to be confident and having FUN out there.....Torts even taked about it in the interview on the bench. The Rangers were LOOOOOOSE and they pushed forward the entire game....dictated the pace and the terms of engagement. SUPERB EFFORT!!
JFC31
Sat May 12 2012 9:26 pm EST
emerick looks like he likes 8 oz curls........what a screaming turd......
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 9:24 pm EST
Stranger... I know, it was obvious in real time that Boyle didn't interfere with him... it's total crap... the League needs to add a Video Replay Challenge next year, because these Refs suck.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 9:22 pm EST
Monk Yes Pierre is known for his drinking which is why I said it. I'm sure Dineen will come on with a few stories if ya ask.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 9:21 pm EST
The defenseman carried the puck over his own goal line when he crashed on the back check. I'd say no goal IF Holtby had any kind of control but he did not. It should of counted.
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 9:20 pm EST
8 more wins to go nick
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 9:19 pm EST
Man that was insane.. i was cursing the Craps goal cause the 2-0 was what I'd been looking for since Richards scorded.. but we played so well after that .. the Craps got nothin' ... Bring on the Debbies and uncle daddy .. so f'in proud to be a Ranger fan again ..
sjw
Sat May 12 2012 9:18 pm EST
The Ref said he didn't lose sight of the puck, he said that Boyle interfered with Holtby and that's why the puck went in... Total crap... Isn't interference a penalty?
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 9:17 pm EST
How long will Torts talk tonight in the presser? HaHa. Totally psyched!!!
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 9:16 pm EST
The reward we get is Doc Formaldehyde Face Emerick calling Rangers-Devils. Guess I'd rather be angry and disgusted than dead.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 12 2012 9:15 pm EST
You guys kept me sane in a 1 goal nerve-wracker- thanks. I was at the games in '94 and remember looking at the clock in Game 7 v the Nucks and seeing 17 min left in the third and it seemed like the clock never moved. Same feeling tonight.
since
Sat May 12 2012 9:14 pm EST
The King rules Washington! I'll never complain about Richards' salary.
nyfans
Sat May 12 2012 9:14 pm EST
The was no one more sad that the CAPS than Mike Emrick... Wow, try being professional... jackass.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 9:13 pm EST
All of us in the living room jumping up and down like lunatics I thought we were going to end up in the basement! And I didn't sit down or crack open a beer throughout until the game was over. DAMN! Sam Adams never tasted so f%$#ing gooooooooood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STPB
Sat May 12 2012 9:13 pm EST
Half way there!
SteveCT
Sat May 12 2012 9:13 pm EST
York, he was reading from NBcs prepared script. They planed onthe Caps winning and he forgot to ad lib. LOL fucking assholes!!!!LGR!!!!!!!
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 9:12 pm EST
I told you nervous nellies to keep faith and not to worry.......YORK, please tell me Pierre McGuire has a history of public drunkenness. I'd love it. I find him EXTREMELY punchable.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 12 2012 9:07 pm EST
Big win, would have preferred to face Philly, but NJ will have to be the next victim. Pierre must be drunk again, he said we played Boston when speaking to Richards.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 9:04 pm EST
congrats NYR....screw u nick
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 9:04 pm EST
I LOVE THIS TEAM...F OFF NBC AND THE LEAGUE....
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 8:59 pm EST
Just over two to go... Nick you bone head, We're gonna win... Let's go Rangers!!!
mf
Sat May 12 2012 8:55 pm EST
Convienient thatthe refs mic did notwork so we could nothesr his BS reasoning.
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 8:54 pm EST
that was the fastest no slow mo with sound replay ,.....lying bastards....
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 8:54 pm EST
How could he have had time to blow the whistle?
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 8:54 pm EST
This game should be over
STPB
Sat May 12 2012 8:53 pm EST
the Rangers will get an Empty Netter at the end of the game... 3-1
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 8:53 pm EST
What a horseshit call!
STPB
Sat May 12 2012 8:49 pm EST
We score they take it away and now what they punish us by giving us a PP?
York18
Sat May 12 2012 8:49 pm EST
I am losing it....
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 8:49 pm EST
Whistle was blown means what? Boyle didn't knock it in!
mykpfsu
Sat May 12 2012 8:47 pm EST
what a joke this league is that was a F$%#ing goal but we can't have the rangers in the finals.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 8:47 pm EST
FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 8:47 pm EST
Again NHL conspiacy!
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 8:47 pm EST
We have been screwed again...
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 8:47 pm EST
BFS
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 8:47 pm EST
That is a goal dammit....Shut the F up Pierre
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 8:46 pm EST
PK TIME
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 8:46 pm EST
Killing me....
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 8:45 pm EST
Nope. Always the hard way.
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 8:44 pm EST
This team does not handle prosperity well at all!
LetsGoRangers
Sat May 12 2012 8:44 pm EST
Man how things turn ugly quick. Nothing ever easy for these guys. WTF?
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 8:43 pm EST
Dammit.....Have to make it hard...
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 8:42 pm EST
2-0 LET'S GO RANGERS
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 8:41 pm EST
YES MF
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 8:41 pm EST
MDZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 8:41 pm EST
Woot..MDZ
DOUBLEN
Sat May 12 2012 8:35 pm EST
NICK - DELTA BRAVO post of the year! Why even bring that to the table? Keep that shit to yourself.
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 8:34 pm EST
once again a win on the faceoff and a shot from the boards into a funnel of bodies that doesn't get through. Why even bother winning the faceoff?
York18
Sat May 12 2012 8:25 pm EST
Keep attacking! LETS GO RANGERS!
LetsGoRangers
Sat May 12 2012 8:25 pm EST
Just my opinion ... Hank's holding the fort and that's our hope. You are one touchy dude.
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 8:22 pm EST
We can get the next one....See it with speed....Hagelin, Gaborik in volved or Kreider nets one...LET'S GO RANGERS....
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 8:20 pm EST
Nick but that was a real ass thing to say. Why don't you go to the frigging devils board. I figure it's late enough in the season for me to hand out my annual dumb ass post of the year award come right up and get it Nick.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 8:17 pm EST
I see OT.
Nick
Sat May 12 2012 8:16 pm EST
OK 10 beers deep. should have read corral the puck instead of just turning it over
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 8:15 pm EST
The thying that drives me nuts about the Rangers with the lead is their penchant for chipping the puck ahead when they have time to corral the puck and maintain possession instead of just turning it over at the Caps blueline
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 8:14 pm EST
FM94 - I have Cablevision and the channel was freezing most of the first and parts of the 2nd, but not too much lately. 20 more minutes, another goal would be nice, but I can't say I am confident we will get it. The King will have to himself a period to win this one.
pete
Sat May 12 2012 8:09 pm EST
I guess now we'll just sit on the puck in the 3rd period... it's our M.O.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 8:04 pm EST
PJ, the problem is there is NEVER near the front of the net to receive those passes.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 12 2012 8:03 pm EST
DC for me it's just hockey 101 don't go to the boards after you win a faceoff unless you have no choice. Don't paint yourself into a corner with no options if you don't have to. Making the goalie move is one of the easiest ways to score we allow him to stay set and in position because we always go to the boards.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 8:02 pm EST
Too many blind centering passes in the offensive zone....It is trapping us and allowing good rushes the other way....
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 8:01 pm EST
It's programmed into the D they play a completely protect the lead style of play. Stralman had an open lane towards the net instead of shooting it he just sent it down the boards to no one and he wasn't giong for a change.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 7:56 pm EST
The last time I saw one opponent dominate another so mercilessly for so long, Larry Holmes was giving Muhammad Ali Parkinson's in the corner of the ring.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 12 2012 7:56 pm EST
YORKIE - Good point(no pun) Simple yet elegant strategy that cannot be any worse than the crapfest we have seen all year!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 7:55 pm EST
York: I've thought that, too. Like they're married to the boards or something after winning a faceoff.
STPB
Sat May 12 2012 7:55 pm EST
Love Boyle but he gets too many minutes...Looks slow tonight....
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 7:50 pm EST
something that has long bugged me about the rangers this season and during the PP is when they win the faceoff back to the point their point men always head towards the boards. They never go to the middle which forces the goalie to move. Instead the limit their options the minute they go to the boards which is send it down the boards, or shoot it in a clogged shooting lane. Head to the center let the other D shift over that way whoever is covering the point has to skate further away and at worse you pass it to your other Dman who can send it around. You get the goalie moving and you aren't forced to shoot into a funnel but rather buy time for your guys to get to the front of the net as well and set a screen
York18
Sat May 12 2012 7:46 pm EST
Great shift!
STPB
Sat May 12 2012 7:46 pm EST
Easy there Doc! Man was he wishing that was a goal. What a smuch!!
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 7:46 pm EST
4th line doing a good job, good to see the coach doing his too.....git ur done......
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 7:38 pm EST
mf got your camera with you?
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 7:37 pm EST
We need to go for the jugular. No BS wussy second period slack off here. Hit to hurt, pin em in their own zone, all night
mf
Sat May 12 2012 7:37 pm EST
amazing ow he nhl overlooks guys like Richards.....than again the nhl are morons.....
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 7:32 pm EST
DCIGOLFER... It's obvious the NHL/NBC wants the Rangers gone... in their minds, we play boring hockey... the most boring hockey since the dead puck era (or you could call it the newest dead puck era) at least with the CAPS they can talk about their SUPERSTAR, ALEX OVECHKIN and sell him to the fans... the NHL is all about Marketing and they obviously don't think we have any star power or anything else to offer.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 7:30 pm EST
Well, you'd be far pressed to find a more slobbering love story (at least in the sports media) than that between NBC and Dale Hunter. Dale Hunter of all people, the man who personified the belligerent, intent-to-injure goon and is responsible for the most cowardly, criminal act ever committed on the ice. But he's a cuddly teddy bear now.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 12 2012 7:28 pm EST
FM - Now that is comedy!! f'n love it! Doc should be "Squibbed" under a MetroNorth Train!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 7:27 pm EST
NBC intermission: Airing of grievances - What could the capitals have done better. 2nd segment - What can the capitals expose in the rangers game plan. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!! I am astonished at this coverage. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 7:25 pm EST
It would be interesting if, during the drive home tonight, Doc Emerick's car "squibbs" into a telephone pole.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 12 2012 7:23 pm EST
Anybody else getting this picture-freezing fucking shit? Is it NBC or shit Cablevision?
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 12 2012 7:22 pm EST
i also like the underdog treatment....the rodney dangerfield syndrome.....
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 7:22 pm EST
Please no more John Mitchell on the PP, John. If you haven't noticed...he stinks!!!
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 7:20 pm EST
Feds also seems to have picked it up....Get that next one and keep backchecking like demons....LET'S GO RANGERS
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 7:20 pm EST
BTW, I am 8 beers deep after 1 period. Don't expect my posts to become more coherent as this game continues!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 7:20 pm EST
Just keep shooting and going to the net. Keep your foot of the gas and don't try to protect a 1 goal lead for the next to periods. LETS GO RANGERS!
LetsGoRangers
Sat May 12 2012 7:19 pm EST
NBC! What a fucking joke. Let's break down the RANGER goal by how the Capitals could have done better! Not what the rangers did right, what the caps did wrong. What a fucking joke!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 7:19 pm EST
i like the shoot the puck philosophy
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 7:17 pm EST
FUCK DOC! King makes a non spectacular save on OVY and he states that he covers the puck in RELIEF!!! HAHA FU Devil lover. Great first period. Good legs for most everyone. Hags and Kreider are really rolling.
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 7:14 pm EST
if that would have been Holtby making that save..Doc';s voice would have gone up 5 octaves.
DOUBLEN
Sat May 12 2012 7:12 pm EST
nice puck possession
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 7:08 pm EST
Hagelin is flying...
E
Sat May 12 2012 7:07 pm EST
That pp was awesome... They brought the puck up and gained the zone. Next time they need to pass it to the open man and he can shoot it or pass it.
E
Sat May 12 2012 7:07 pm EST
Every PP looks like a replay of the last. Pathetic, momentum draining PP. Come on another goal early could putthis one away. Ahhgg!
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 7:06 pm EST
That horrible pass by Mitchell could have cost us....Get back to it...Get the next one.....LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 7:05 pm EST
Is Mitchell dating Torts daughter or something?
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 7:05 pm EST
The Rangers PP gets worse instead of better!
LetsGoRangers
Sat May 12 2012 7:05 pm EST
Why isn't our PP working? Oh maybe because Mitchell is on the frigging thing? 5 goals all season why the F$%& is he on the PP? This is exactly the crap I talk about when I say Torts is too stupid to get out of his own way.
York18
Sat May 12 2012 7:04 pm EST
Another pathetic PP. there goes the momentum plus we ice it. Stupid.
Bob
Sat May 12 2012 7:04 pm EST
Wow, 4 guys actually at the powerplay, brilliant!
mykpfsu
Sat May 12 2012 7:00 pm EST
Kreider makes a difference with that speed....No doubt...
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 7:00 pm EST
Please put someone in front of the net and try to get a shot on the net.
DOUBLEN
Sat May 12 2012 6:59 pm EST
PP TIME
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 6:52 pm EST
nice to see Kreider on the ice
nyfans
Sat May 12 2012 6:44 pm EST
Well that is a nice start by Mr. Clutch.
Bob
Sat May 12 2012 6:44 pm EST
No let up....Let's end this.....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 6:43 pm EST
YEA BABY
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 6:43 pm EST
GOAL..........MR RICHARDS
DOUBLEN
Sat May 12 2012 6:42 pm EST
NN mcguire interviewing Staal while it starts.....mr go have fun.......
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 6:41 pm EST
not enough sponsors .......pc.........
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 6:40 pm EST
OK, LGR!!!!!
NYStranger
Sat May 12 2012 6:39 pm EST
STEVIE: Can you believe it..they are showing the Anthem.
DOUBLEN
Sat May 12 2012 6:38 pm EST
This is pretty funny... John Tortorella Mash-up ....http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/rangers/2012/05/dj-steve-porter-cuts-john-tortorella-mash-up-featuring-highlights-from-ny-rangers-co
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 6:38 pm EST
When you dream about big games this is it. It's more important then any game in a long, long time. And I love it. It's awesome.
E
Sat May 12 2012 6:36 pm EST
Go Hard or Go Home... Let's Go Rangers!!!!
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 6:27 pm EST
Everybody and their brother is picking the Caps tonite.
LetsGoRangers
Sat May 12 2012 6:26 pm EST
Bob, I was coming on to post the exact same thing! Chimera, Laich, Holtby, and Ovy. The only thing re: Rangers, Hank missed the gameday skate this morning and Torts said he was "Dandy" Thanks for the balanced coverage nbc gofuckyourself! LGR! DTP!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 6:26 pm EST
Bob...Have stopped watching any pregame for this very reason...I turn on the game right before the puck drops....Come on Rangers....Advance tonight......LET'S GO RANGERS
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 6:20 pm EST
20 minute pregame on Sirius XM, all Caps love fest. Nothing about the Rangers. Let's piss them all off. Bring it Rangers.
Bob
Sat May 12 2012 6:19 pm EST
LET'S GO RANGERS
PJ
Sat May 12 2012 5:18 pm EST
WIN. So sayeth the law giver.
heston
Sat May 12 2012 5:02 pm EST
LGR!
Stevect
Sat May 12 2012 4:44 pm EST
I don't know how I feel about Callahan guaranteeing a win, but I'm sure he was put into a corner by a beat writer... hopefully it works out better for him than it did for Patrick Ewing... every time Ewing guaranteed a win, the Knicks lost... The good news is that Dubinsky was out of his walking boot today and walking around the clubhouse... MZA scored a couple of goals this morning against Marty Biron but his wrist is still not 100% (lacking strength)... good interview with him from this morning... http://blueshirtsunited.com/videos/1526/mats-zuccarello-1-on-1
Rhet0ric
Sat May 12 2012 4:03 pm EST
From another team's fan site. Let it be done.. Dear Hockey Gods, who art in hockey heaven, praise and glory to you when it comes to all things hockey. Give us this day a win for the following teams, and forgive us for any hockey trespasses, as we forgive those who have made hockey trespasses against us Lead us not into temptation and deliver us from evil .
Louie
Sat May 12 2012 3:45 pm EST
My 16-month old took the Ranger cap off my head, threw it on the floor and stepped on it. I think it's an omen that Boyle will score the game winner.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 12 2012 3:20 pm EST
My friend sends me this text..The Hockey G-ds have spoken and the Rangers will win 3-0 with the last one an empty netter.
DOUBLEN
Sat May 12 2012 2:57 pm EST
BALLS TO THE WALL.....GIT UR DONE......
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 2:20 pm EST
Plenty of guys & their kids wearing Ranger Shirts & Caps..... The City is Ranger Country ... Getting Psyched for the Game ..... We're gonna Win This One.... Keep The Faith you all..... Let's Go Rangers !!!!
mf
Sat May 12 2012 1:04 pm EST
Well, all I can say is; I'm All In! Fuck it!
pa.rangersfan
Sat May 12 2012 12:12 pm EST
Here we are at another game 7. Won't see the entire game, as my son has a game on the ice during it. Here's hoping they come out strong and bag a goal or 2 during the opening push. Playing with the lead, I think we win. Falling behind, we are in trouble. Henrik needs to come through and might need to pitch a shutout. Let's go Rangers!
Bob
Sat May 12 2012 11:53 am EST
The reason for the disgraceful loss in game 6, and the one and only hope for victory tonight, is quickness and hustle or lack thereof. Slowness in creating scoring chances, shooting the puck, getting to loose pucks, gaining the zone, moving the puck and shooting on the PP is what killed this team. They were inexplicably nonchalant in those areas. It was as though they didn't really want the puck and thought they had all day to make decisions. Reversing that is their only chance.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 12 2012 10:34 am EST
It should have read "I'm sure..."
Ranger47
Sat May 12 2012 10:12 am EST
I'm this question must have been posed and answered here already. but why are none of the games on MSG? I thought they said that they would be broadcasting all the Ranger playoff games (and did Round 1). In 93-94 they did them all. Does it have something to do with the NBC Sports contract with the NHL? Seems like Sam and Joe never even got to say goodbye for the season....At any rate, let's win Game 7 tonight and keep the season going! LGR!
Ranger47
Sat May 12 2012 9:30 am EST
We must win, thats al that matters..... Chances are, it aint gonna be pretty, but then again, winning tonight will be pretty..... IMO, we need to hit them real hard from the start, clean hits, but hard.... Rupp needs to embed someone into the boards, he needs to lead in the hard hits dept when he gets the icetime..... (He's my first to go in the offseason, topic for the offseason) ...... Thinkin this is going to be a war, 10 round heavyweight bout, Advantage Rangers!!! ....... ""LETS GO RANGERS""""
mf
Sat May 12 2012 8:48 am EST
RF4L - Was that the point of Brooks' article (I don't read them)/? If so, well, duhhhhhhh...Of corse it has to be..and it has to be Cally's (who has sucked)...and Staal's...and Gabby's.....and Richards.........DCI - Personally, if the Rangers lose tonight, it was a wste of a season.....some fun moments to watch, but only results matter in hte pros...Well, they WIN, it's a whole nother story that has a chapter next week...good luck to the Rangers and Rangr fans...See ya after the WIn......
Hospo
Sat May 12 2012 8:13 am EST
One of the rare times I completely agree with LB: This needs to be Lundvqist's best game of the POs so far IMO.
RF4L
Sat May 12 2012 8:09 am EST
Want to get the first goal early tonight. We get up by 2 and the Caps will have to come out of their shell and all bets are off.
Fotiu22
Sat May 12 2012 6:43 am EST
there is no nostalgia today, there is one objective, outscore the craps.......period .......after 3 periods......time for the coach to show the way............Keenan did it amazingly in one season......git r done.......
stevielegs
Sat May 12 2012 5:53 am EST
Up early on a Saturday and really excited to watch Game 7 tonight. The only disappointment a loss would bring is that we can't seem to get past this Craps team and it's beginning to piss me off. Otherwise, I have not enjoyed a Ranger team more than this one. 1994 brought expectations that were realized. THANKFULLY! This team is Rocky. No one expected anything and they were discounted all year. But through everything they found ways to win and always had each others backs(VERY RARE IN RANGERLAND) So, win or lose tonight it has been a terrific season and very satisfying for me as a long time fan. That all being said I think they come out seeing red and hit evrything they see! Hopefully, that includes some twine! LGR!! Drop the puck!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 12 2012 5:41 am EST
The Captain......“I need to step up and lead and do the things I’m counted on doing for the team,” Callahan told The Post yesterday. “And that’s what I expect of myself [tonight]. “Personally, I don’t think I’ve been at my best in this series, but I’m looking to be stronger and better and create more offense. I have to do the things that make me effective and make us a better team.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/rangers_callahan_vows_xOxcR7kAlqMKq8DBiyFYnJ#ixzz1uePV8CgC
stevielegs
Fri May 11 2012 11:32 pm EST
TRADESTAR...."roughly in 24 hours"...that was quite a piece, man. Hats off.
FerociousMonk94
Fri May 11 2012 10:54 pm EST
thanx Stevie for that clarification....I can sleep better tonight!
TradeStar28
Fri May 11 2012 10:53 pm EST
Prior to the games, I used to read alot of the shit in the press, on the internet, on the blogs.....anywhere that mentioned anything about the Rangers.......Nowadays, I couldnt give a flying fugg about what the writers have to say....Honestly.......I do not even watch the pre-game crap to any sporting events......Its like the Derby where they talk for 3 hours before the silly ass race about every freakin dumb element that has to do with the sporting event.....same thing with football....especially the Super Bowl.......At this stage in life, I stick to reading what you wallsters have to say and thats it......Turn the TV on 2 minutes before the puck drops.......turn off the tv once they announce the 3 stars.......end of story!
TradeStar28
Fri May 11 2012 10:53 pm EST
I have avoided the NHLN and NBCSN the last 2 days because I was sure that they would be stroking the Caps and it would only irritate me. Ovechkin this, Backstrom that, Green this, Hunter that, Rock the Red. All BS.
Bob
Fri May 11 2012 9:50 pm EST
Just checked alot of sports news websites... The Capitals and Ovechkin are getting all the accoldades and press.... THe NYRs are being treated like the #8 seed playing on the road with a rookie goaltender in net... WTF?!! Ranger win 4-2 and Callahan gets the game winner...
schneidw
Fri May 11 2012 9:38 pm EST
Whale lose Game 6 in overtime by a score of 2-1. Season over.
Dineen11
Fri May 11 2012 9:34 pm EST
Trade it was his wife's half brother' s wife alias sister in law hence uncle daddy to her kids .,.......alias fat bastard Debbie ......
stevielegs
Fri May 11 2012 9:20 pm EST
Any body in the city want to meet and watch the game? I'm going to a bar on 9th between 56th & 57th. After our boyz win tomorrow (thinkin positive here folks) there's a chance some of the players wander in.
mf
Fri May 11 2012 8:56 pm EST
Roughly in 24 hours, we will all be analyzing and assessing the NY Rangers lineup in respect to how it matches up with the Devils. Ofcourse, there will be some nostalgia thrown in the mix as well as defining moments that captured our hearts within Game 7 vs the Craps. Sprinkled in will be some jokes about the girth of martin brodeur's belly as well as talk about his age and the fact that he banged his wife's sister. Furthermore, there will be a few sarcastic jokes about parades in parking lot's, a gesture about the Messier guarantee, and a few complaints about listening to Joe Micheletti for another 2 weeks. There will be an overall exeburence on this wall that has not been seen ever because there was no wall 18 years ago. This my fellow Rangers fans is all about the win that will take place tomorrow night @ Madison Square Garden that will define your entire 2012 up to this point. Can you handle it? I am sure the wives and mothers of wallsters will embrace what will occur tomorrow with open arms because the men who root for the Rangers may, in fact, act even nicer to them come Sunday morning and through out the evening. But once Monday rolls around, its back to business.....self loathing, neurotic, doubting Ranger fans ....but this changes to happiness once Marty flops on the ice and Gabby lifts the frozen ring ding right into that mesh twine that you love to see bulging.........Let's Go Rangers!!!!
TradeStar28
Fri May 11 2012 6:34 pm EST
I like the switch of Anisimov for Feds that skated today vs. my lines. I like these lines a lot!
DCIGolfer
Fri May 11 2012 5:54 pm EST
If he uses the lines identified in today's practice and effectively manages ice time, including time for the 4th line, we win this game because now we have two offensive lines with speed that are also great along the boards. Use the 4th line as a crash line. Force the Capitals defense to retrieve the puck and then smash the living shit out of them. On defense, put Eminger back in the lineup as well. Bickel just can't keep up with the pace...
Tucc
Fri May 11 2012 4:58 pm EST
This means nothing but it's how I would play them tomorrow. Hags-BRich-Gabby / Kreider-Stepan-Cally / Feds-Boyle-Prust / Rupp-Anisimov-Mitchell. Anisimov could step into CK's spot on the 2nd if needed and Ani would PK. Kreider has to have a shot to affect the game as he did in round one.
DCIGolfer
Fri May 11 2012 3:33 pm EST
Seventh games are pretty hard to predict but the Rangers have been good this season at winning important games. This will all come down to who is able to cash in on their scoring chances. The way the goalies have been playing it's gonna be a close game and as good as Holtby has played I couldn't be happier that we have the King in nests for us. We have the advantage of home ice and the Garden is the best place for a game seven to be played. I can't wait!!! LETS GO RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wally5460
Fri May 11 2012 2:41 pm EST
BOB - I'm not saying I agree with everything!!..You know, during the season they played disciplined and opportunisitc, but they did take more chances and it was fun for the most part.. As was the Senator series, becasue the Senators gave the Rangers openings that they couldn't resist at times.....The problem is the Caps are playing exactly like the Rangers and it's just a stalemate.....A Series agasint the FLyers would have been so much different as will a series against the Devils if we are lucky enough to get there..
Hospo
Fri May 11 2012 2:26 pm EST
I undestand the dumbing down of the system to help a team that is weak on talent survive. The question is......when does that system sap the club of enough of it's creativity that they are barren offensively? Why on earth have the Rangers not worked on crease crashing and screens, when that has become the best way to score goals? They are who they are now, but hopefully the system evolces as the talent and ability of the teams players increases. Tampa's Safe Is Death worked, and it was fun to watch.
Bob
Fri May 11 2012 1:58 pm EST
Nick - While not the most talented team in the League, you know like Philly, Pitt, Vancouver (where are those they??), in Richards, Gabby, Steppan, Cally, Hagelin, AA, Rupp and even Jesus Kreider, the Rangers have DECENTtalent.as well as a few Role players....Just that Torts weants his talented players to play like role players all the time...SSaturday night will show if he is reight becasue while opinions are many, they are meaninless, only results matter...
Hospo
Fri May 11 2012 1:57 pm EST
In case nobody posted: The lines were as follows, per Andrew Gross: Hagelin - Richards - Gaborik Kreider - Stepan - Callahan Anisimov - Boyle - Prust Fedotenko - Mitchell - Rupp
pa.rangersfan
Fri May 11 2012 1:31 pm EST
Tonight?
RDW
Fri May 11 2012 1:15 pm EST
The biggest factor tonight (other than the obvious home field advantage with the crowd calling for penalties) will be us having last change. It should get our first line away from the Game 6 defenders and make sure we get the right D against their offense. Since Girardi was an allstar this year, Staal is a former allstar who is rounding into shape, McDonagh has arguably played like an allstar, and Henrik is a finalist for BOTH the Vezina and Hart trophies, Gaborik is a top 5 goal scorer, etc, etc, this team should be able to get through this tonight and move on....LGR!
Ranger47
Fri May 11 2012 1:15 pm EST
Of course my harping on K's ice time is proof this team has little skill out there. We can 'work down low' and crowd creases all we want (more of the latter would be nice). But outside of a few guys, stone hands and slow decisions make any chances we get disappear in a puff of smoke. So we need Hank to give up no more than one and hope for the best.
Nick
Fri May 11 2012 1:14 pm EST
KIS - I didn't mean that it's NOT a factor, just less so than than before. There's a lot of grinding by the boards...lots of work down low...we get spurts of back-and-forth hockey, but this is really a physical matchup...I also agree on the Hagelin line...but again, the speed isn't really the reason. It's more that they're effectively moving the puck along the boards...and...SIGH...'cycling'...We'll see. Man, I think I'm gonna need a Xanax Party Mix to crunch on before tomorrow. Already got the jitters.
tdchi
Fri May 11 2012 1:11 pm EST
Six minutes a night fpr K and he 'can't find room' and is a 'liability'? How much room is anyone finding? We have a better shot at room with Feds-Step-Prust and Boyle-Cally? And PP specialists Mitchell and Girardi? This is madness. And as far as teaching goes? To say now isn't the time is wildly understating. This smarmy wise-ass genius needs to give us a freaking chance to win, not prove his theories on 'grit' or whatever the fuck. Prove them wrong, that is.
Nick
Fri May 11 2012 12:29 pm EST
Bob: I may be a Ranger fan, but I take a shower every day.
VtRanger
Fri May 11 2012 12:14 pm EST
Hospo pretty spot on with that last remark. That is why I think Rupp(your BFF) should get more time. Get his big body to the net and push some people around. His body is fresher than Prust and he has more guile than Artie. He will get to the net and create room. I say put him out with Step and Cally sometimes. It should create space for Step and let cally be able to chase and fire away rather than dig round the goal. give him a shiift with those guys and let him spell Feds or Prust once in awhile
KIS
Fri May 11 2012 12:10 pm EST
TDCHI, my xanax has worn off but I am going to stay calm. I don't see what you are seeing. Speed is still a factor. Look at chimera. Semin , green and backstrom have been doing some good things. As far as hagelin, when that line is out on the ice, 85 percent of the time they have kept the puck in the washington end. they have created opportunities or hagelin is cutting the ice off in half and appllying the pressure. I think Washington has used some really good defensive support to stymie the true goal threats. That and the lack of skill or speed some of the rangers put out( prust , feds, boyle.
KIS
Fri May 11 2012 12:04 pm EST
Lines..Schmilines..it's all about execution...safe hockey....no mistakes..and Special Teams...Face it, we aren't going to get anything different from what we saw in the first six...The one thing the Rangers can do differnt is going to the net ..AND STAYING THERE..!!...We'll see
Hospo
Fri May 11 2012 11:48 am EST
JFC31: Not that I disagree with your assertion but the bottom line is this: the style that the NYR play and the skill in the defensive parts of the game are MORE than adequate to win. Its their offense that fails them. One way or another they will need to pot some goals. If they can give Lundqvist a 1-2 goal cushion to work with he will take the team the rest of the way. But its been the achilles heal all series. And Don't get me wrong in this but Holtby to me has been good but has not had to be stellar one game. I have yet to see him put a team on his back and just say, 'no' all night long. His shot blocking defense has been keeping shots to the outside. The numbers are deceiving, the NYR can put up big numbers in shooting but so much of it is from 25-35' out with no pressure in front of the net. He is seeing everything and has not been forced to be exceptional nearly as much as he should in my opinion. Washington has far less of an issue than the NYR do because their offense is awesome. Need a goal? Fine go PP and unleash OV with time and space. He will kill you and right now, the entire Washington team is finding a way to beat Lundqvist 3-4 holes. Why? I have no idea why that has suddenly become a dent in his armor.
E
Fri May 11 2012 11:45 am EST
My shining hope is that TORTORELLA is playing one crazy-ass game of Rope-A-Dope with HUNTER...that he's waiting to put his potent lines together when it most counts(tomorrow)...I tend to agree with RF4L regarding KREIDER...that the ice has gotten noticeably smaller and that his speed isn't nearly the asset it was against Ottawa(notice both Johansson and Hagelin –the other two speedsters –are also ineffective)...but maybe...just maybe...all his time on the bench will allow Washington to forget just how dangerous he can be out there when he does get a stretch of a few feet to accelerate. Gotta admit, he really hasn't gotten any ice in the past three or four games...so maybe he's the secret weapon. And maybe this is just fanciful thinking...Anyway, I'm jumping on Gibbo's bus now and all you pessimists can eat our dirt!!! LGR!!!
tdchi
Fri May 11 2012 11:39 am EST
E---except for the last 2 games. I was certain he would change them around when down by 2 in the 3rd period last game, and yet he had Stepan-Fedotenko-Prust out there with less than 3 minutes to go. I couldn't believe it. You have a team that cannot score goals, but you continue to make a coaching point by playing one of the few guys who has shown that he has the talent to make a difference for 6:00? Works if you win. If you don't, you look stupid.
Bob
Fri May 11 2012 11:36 am EST
HOSPO--Carp commented that Green threw the puck into the stands because he saw Boyle coming and did not want to get hit. Pierre and Edzo were gusing over Hamrlik, whon has bee the absolute worst D-man in this series. Anybody except the Alzner-Carlson pair is exploitable. We simply did not do nearly enough to do so in the past 2 games.
Bob
Fri May 11 2012 11:34 am EST
BOB: How often does Tortorella actually keep his lines together? Only if they are going. I've said it before, they aren't a static line team, they are dynamic. It is more and more becoming the SOP for teams in the NHL.
E
Fri May 11 2012 11:17 am EST
BOB - Bingo on hannering Green and Hamrlik...They play so much differnt looking over their shoulder...Hit them from the start..Hopefully the Rangers are rested enough not to pull back on their checks..
Hospo
Fri May 11 2012 11:10 am EST
While it irritates me that Torts has marooned Kreider, a guy with wheels and talent, on the 4th like, the dopey swap of Stepan for Boyle is the bigger problem. Boyle is killing Callahan. He is too slow and he is not a distributor of the puck. If Torts would simply put Stepan there and Boyle back to the 3rd line, we would be better. 2 games of that lineup without any changes, and one even strength goal, by Stralman. Boyle is a great kid, and we all like him and pull for him, but it was easy for the unwashed masses (all of us) to see that set up was not working. I would like to see us go back to hammering their defense. Mike Green looks kind of like Staal, in that he has taken some huge hits, not been injured, and seems to have gotten closer to where he was in prior years. I see this game as a tossup, and Henrik might have to pitch a shutout for us to win.
Bob
Fri May 11 2012 11:08 am EST
DId anyone else see that the U.S. beat Kazakhstan in OT at the WHC? I didn't know Kazakhstan had a team, I would have though that it was a Borat joke. I know we didn't send too many good players over, but that is crazy.
pete
Fri May 11 2012 11:00 am EST
VT; See's the light "OR" reads THE WALL! ;->) ......... lets go rangers !!
mf
Fri May 11 2012 10:55 am EST
man you guys are all nervous and stuff, cmon... this team always bounces back... Rangers by a touchdown tomorrow as Jesus Kreider nets 5 in the first period... Rangers 8, Caps 1 and chants of WE WANT MARTY pour out onto 7th Avenue as a trumpet plays the Flintstones Theme
Gibbo
Fri May 11 2012 10:53 am EST
Jesus H Kreider has been more of a negative factor than anything else since game 1 - this series is tighter than the Ottawa one and the kid is struggling because of it. He cannot find room to skate and doesn't know how to adapt - this is especially noticeable when he's got the puck. Of course, that's of no surprise and no reflection on his ability or future. He's like 8 games into his professional career for crying out loud! IMO, it's over the top to rake Tortorella over the coals for his use of the kid over the past few games - the coach is trying to teach and manage simultaneousl. Sometimes the harsh criticism on here astounds me....
RF4L
Fri May 11 2012 10:51 am EST
Personally, I don't give two shits about Kreider right now...Honestly, it's a tough decison to make, you need his speed/offense...but you don't need his defensive irresponsibility...Best idea is to play him at the start and see what happens and how his play and the game evolves...
Hospo
Fri May 11 2012 10:51 am EST
JFC, on this team, with our talent level, a kid with Kreider's speed and ability IS Jesus. We're festooned with third-and-fourth liners. Stepan as a number two center is a stretch. Our top LW bagged all of 14 goals. I like Hagelin; he's effective and fast as hell, but really. This squad can't keep any bullets in the chamber despite the chance of a misfire (tortured analogy I know!)
Nick
Fri May 11 2012 10:46 am EST
Glad to hear that, VtRanger. We'll soon see.
Nick
Fri May 11 2012 10:45 am EST
vcp94: Your just shooting int he dark that players feel the least bit alienated...how the hell can you know that? Torts does what Torts does, and all these players know it. They ave all been on the same page. And "benching"? who? when? Because the last guy to go a significant period of time with out playing was Bickle in the 3OT game, than the next game he had twice as much ice time in the first period as that OT games first period. Kreider has not been benched, just used less over the last couple games, and we have no idea what is being said to him before, during, or after. You cant say torts is doing anything to harm his relationship with players just because you happen to think he is doing something wrong.
Wildcard
Fri May 11 2012 10:29 am EST
KIS - nah, never meant the team would over think things...Just us!
Hospo
Fri May 11 2012 10:25 am EST
Wouldn't be surprised in Torts cut back on Jesus H. Kreider because he did not have the last change and did not have the control of the matchups. Hey, he does not fully trust the kid and he wants him to play under the conditions that he feels are the most adventageous for the Rangers. If that meant going with a less speedy/aggressive lineup in game 6....even if it meant we'd have to squeek out an ugly win or ven lose a close one....then he's wlling to do it.....feeling confident that a game 7 at home with the Rangers getting last change is the safest way to go, Problem is, in a game 7, anything can happen....it's a risk but one that shows that Torts has confidence in his team.
JFC31
Fri May 11 2012 10:23 am EST
as torts says, The kid is learning its all part of the process.
KIS
Fri May 11 2012 10:16 am EST
Kreider skating with Cally and Stepan in paractice today. Torts sees the light.
VtRanger
Fri May 11 2012 10:15 am EST
Guys don't get hyped. The Rangers will be Fine and come out on top. Even if Kreider doesn't play with Cally and Step I think you will see AA on that line to give more speed. Torts always resorts back to Prust Fed and Boyle in tough situations.
KIS
Fri May 11 2012 10:14 am EST
Hospo -- basically, what I think Torts needs to do is just tell them that he has confidence in their defensive abilities, commitment, shot-blocking, etc and that he just wants them to put it all together and have fun. They need some type of mental release at this point so they can relax and get some offensive flow back into their game....if they feel relaxed, they will attack. That's what it looked like in the OT of game 5....albeit on a PP ....but htye just seemed like they KNEW they were gonna win that game and came out and did it. You're right.....it's kind of ugly hockey on both sides right now....probing, getting pushed back, short bursts that lead to nothing but a blocked shot (or a shot wide of the net because their trying not to get the shot blocked). If that's the way it's going to be then the Rangers need to score on their damned PP opprtunities. This series would be over if they had any competence in that area at all.....and the game 5 heroics was just an abberation....a 6 0n 4 and then the rest was momentum.
JFC31
Fri May 11 2012 10:12 am EST
No, it shouldn't happen to Kreider. We are STARVED for offense. Six minutes in Game Six? Fewer than John Mitchell? Same as Rupp? I don't care what Torts 'strategy' is; this is absurd on its face. Mr. 'Huge OT Wins Are No Big Deal' is a jackass and Boyle's remark illustrates it. Way to fire 'em up, Coach. Yeah I know: professionals shouldn't need it. But they do. At this point K will be useless anyway; God forbid he make a MISTAKE! Aarrghhh! You cost us the series unlike the 20 other mistakes other guys who can't score or even threaten make each game! Frustrating as hell.
Nick
Fri May 11 2012 10:10 am EST
Hospo, I don't think this team will over think it. I think if anything the 2 days off helps this team. It allows guys like Boyle, Cally, Girardi, Prust, Hagelin, staal (each one of these players is a physical first player) to get an extra days rest. When your game is predicated on being physical to compete an extra days rest for the body helps so much. A skilled player isn't going to get any more skilled but a rested player becomes more efficient. I think Hank comes out better. This team has always played better facing bad situations. I think getting the last change helps as well. Girardi has done well on OV. Strallman and DZ have given him too much room. Last time the rangers got off 17 -4 shots during the first period. I think the rangers come out strong. If not I see Prust getting into a fight. Either way I think the Rangers have a good game and move on to play the Devils. Lets go Rangers. Obviously I have changed my previous ritual of predicting the Rangers lose just so I could be wrong and hope they actually win. gotta break the superstition. I can actually see the caps getting down by 2 and opening up which gives the Rangers a better chance to score more. I also hope Torts isnt so Stubborn and puts Kreider with Cally and stepan.. Get r done Rangers
KIS
Fri May 11 2012 10:06 am EST
JFC/TDCHI - Personally, I think Rangers and Caps are evenly matched in theis series and in talent....First goal means alot (has won every game) and so does the PP...otherwise, it's just the teams swapping shiort surges........As for Brooks and going offensive, Do you make a change like that in a 7th game of a PO series on home ice where the way you have been playing indicates a good cahnce of winning in ths W-L-W-L-W-L series..? Or You could release the hounds and then make mistakes which a disciplined Caps team would take advantage of....or maybe force them to break and the Rangers win..Huge risk I don;t see a coach taking........easy for a NY Post writer to say
Hospo
Fri May 11 2012 9:59 am EST
You're not going to get that kind of analysis on NBC, that's for sure. Seriously, HOSPO, that's terrific stuff to chew on as we wait for tomorrow night (seems like a week away, doesn't it?). Nice job. ... I agree in that Torts has said ad nauseum that the way the Rangers play is the way they HAVE to play, in his mind, to win. So that's why he sits a guy like Kreider after a couple of mistakes instead of live with those mistakes at this time of year. He doesn't think his team has the firepower to make up for those blunders. And so it's D first all the time, Mitchell on the power play, up and down minutes for Stepan etc.
Zebop
Fri May 11 2012 9:58 am EST
And BTW....Brooks should understand that even a guy liek Alex Ovechkin has had the rigns pulled in on him BIG TIME by his coach. That makes it sound a little silly to question why a kid with 11 games under his belt has the reigns pulled in on him....Ovie is one of the premier offensive players in the NHL and his defensive liabilities are getting his icetime reduced dramatically....but it shouldn't happen to Kreider?
JFC31
Fri May 11 2012 9:51 am EST
tdchi -- I agree....I've been saying all along that I thought the Rangers were simply the better team. Until game 6, I felt that the Rangers had dominated most of the series and could have been on to the Conference finals already is they hadn't given away game 2 with boneheaded mistakes. Big factor tomorrow night is that Rangers get the last line change due to being at home. That is HUGE for the Rangers. I also tend to agree with Brooks' article today that recommends that the Rangers ATTACK....basically, it should be "releeeease the hounds!!!" Torts should tell them to be smart, but be aggressive....go out there and have fun and score some goals. They look like they are getting into a rut due to over-concentrating on not making mistakes. After playing an entire season of this style, it should be NATURAL to not make mistakes.....like any other skill, if you truly have it, you do not need to thinka about it, it just happens. They need to trust themselves and their defensive abilities and just have fun going after this victory. Perhaps this is why Torts is clamping down on Kreider....after 11 games in the NHL, there's no way that Torts' style can be "natural" to him. But if he goes on a line with Stepan and Callahan, they can be an attacking line that Torts gets to use in matchups that favor the Rangers....that can help Kreider minmize his mistakes by pairing him with 2 guys who have the system doen pat, yet have offensive creativity. The Rangers need to score goals and stop playing like zombies.
JFC31
Fri May 11 2012 9:49 am EST
Bad thing about having two days off after a loss means way too much time for needless overanlaysis, what-ifs, and over the top criticisms...And I include myself in the guilty category,...We ALL know the flaws of this Ranger team...They have talent, but not as much as the likes of Pitt, Philly (BIOTH GONE without a whimper I might add) and a few others,,,We also know, but forget, that they have a style, where they try to win with defense, discipline and opportunism, basiclally muting talent that would shine more in other sytems (like the losing ones in Philly and Pitt).......But the fact is that it has got worse during THIS iPO series for two reasons...First off, the Caps are playing team D as good as anybody right now (so are the Rangers)....and 2nd, and this is where TORTS come in, the entire Ranger strategy has been to try and controal the puck behind the goal line and deep sideboards, hoping to get 1 or 2 passes out to the slot and hoping to win 1-0, 2-1 games.....The Rangers have alot more talent then the lack of offense indicates and could playe another way where they would score more buyt also give up more...Would they win? I really don't know....Obviously, Torts thinks not.....
Hospo
Fri May 11 2012 8:57 am EST
I have a bad feeling its over for the Rangers. Talkarella is starting to alienate players with his benchings....unsure just dont feel confident right now......Boyle even said "you cant tell even when we win" I hope i am wrong
vcp94
Fri May 11 2012 8:51 am EST
More interesting reading to bide the too-many-hours before Game 7, this one CBC's Elliotte Friedman's "30 Thoughts" column with some good stuff about the Rangers, how the McDonough trade went down etc. And just for the record, I got the trivia quesion (No. 8 in the column) in about 3 seconds too. -- http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/2012/05/quenneville-uses-leverage-plus-30-thoughts.html
Zebop
Fri May 11 2012 8:11 am EST
TD: Of course, that's part of being a hockey writer. Or a sports fan. We all do that. Just like you say 'if Tortorella had put BB in the 3rd line spot and Stepan in the 2nd that goal wouldn't have been scored/would have been scored'.
RF4L
Fri May 11 2012 8:05 am EST
RF4L - See, this is why I'd love to be a hockey writer...you can pretty much play revisionist history and nobody calls you on it...Truth is, we'll never know EXACTLY what the Rangers offered and what Columbus wanted...but this guy seems to forget one of the names that was being kicked around by the Jackets was McDONAGH. Now if that was who we were going to move to get NASH and you take him out of the lineup...guess what? I'm not sure the Rangers would have gotten out of the first round. Now if you say McDONAGH AND KREIDER...AND a few first rounders? I mean come on. I knew if this series went long enough or if the Rangers lost, there would be people whining about not getting Nash. I didn't think a by-lined hockey column about it would appear, but I really overestimated the level of talent of today's hockey writers.
tdchi
Fri May 11 2012 7:55 am EST
The Rangers get the best record in the east, come one game away from winning the president's trophy, and are one game away from going to the conference finals DESPITE not having one of their top-6 forwards and one of their top four defenseman...AND STILL they're simply not talented...they're just winning game s out of luck...sheesh...Caps and their tape-to-tape passing? Huh? And the Caps more talented?!? What? Let's go down the line then, from 'top to bottom': So the top three forwards are OV, Backstrom and Semin versus Gaborik, Richards and Callahan. Yes, the Caps have all three there...but let's drill down further...next up on the Caps is Laich, Johansson, and Chimera versus Stepan, Hagelin and Anisimov(I'll omit DUBINKSKY because he's out right now)...Now I think REAL highly of Laich, but Stepan is a better player all-around, no question about it. Far more talented. Johansson and Hagelin are oddly similar, so we'll call it a push...Chimera versus Anisimov isn't even a discussion. The Russian is a better player...FAR more talented...Next three: Brouwer, Ward, and Knuble, versus Kreider, Boyle and Fedotenko...Kreider, even though he's just 10 games into his NHL career, blows Brouwer out of the water...Boyle is better than Ward. Maybe not by much, but better...and for argument's sake, we'll say Fedotenko and Knuble are a push, though I would say Feds is the better of the two at this stage in his career. Knuble has one move: Hammer the goaile. It's the only way he scores...and then finally, we have Aucoin, Halpern and Hendricks versus Mitchell, Rupp and Prust, Mitchell. I would say all three are basically a push. You could argue more talent or value in one direction or the other...now here's where it gets telling: DEFENSE. Caps top two are Green and Carlson versus the Rangers top two Staal and McDonagh. While Green and Carlson certainly add an offensive dynamic the Rangers duo doesn't have, defense-wise, Staal and McDonagh are FAR more talented...moving down, you have Alzner and Wideman versus Girardi and Stralman. Girardi hands down over either of those rubes any day of the week. Wideman over Stralman ...Then Hamrlik and Schultz versus Del Zotto and Bickel. One for the Rangers, one for the Caps...and then finally, Holtby versus Lundqvist...And I don't even need to go there...If you follow along that logic, these team are pretty goddamn evenly matched. Maybe even deadlocked...The ONLY area where the Caps really blow the Rangers out of the water is the top three forwards...and as of lately, behind the bench. And that, friends, is the real root of why these teams are tied right now: BETTER COACHING. I still don't understand how someone can watch these games and come away with the notion that the Caps ARE better than the Ranger, much less that they are WAY better than the Rangers. It takes a special eye to see that...and most of those eyes belong to the NBC announcers. This is anyone's series. The team that comes out to play tomorrow moves on to New Jersey. The other one goes home. Simple as that.
tdchi
Fri May 11 2012 7:41 am EST
I know it's pure conjecture but IMO, interesting nonetheless: An article in the Toronto Sun musing about the what ifs Nash was a Ranger....http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Playoffs/NYRangers/2012/05/10/19743456.html. The author's proclamation that this series would be over if Nash was a Ranger I find hard to argue against. Life, sometimes, is a series of what ifs, isn't it??
RF4L
Fri May 11 2012 7:32 am EST
Hey, don't get me wrong. There is no quit in this thing. They are 1 game away from being in the Conference Finals. ANYTHING can happen in this game. If the Rangers are the better team tomorrow then that is all that will matter. If the CAPS are the better team but the Rangers steal the game then GREAT! You don't have to be the best team to win the Cup. You need to be good enough and lucky enough to win 4 games in 4 consecutive series before your opponent can.
Vic
Fri May 11 2012 7:21 am EST
1 game between the next round or going home....... 8 something in the morning & already the tension's building...... There's no talk about losing among the team, no talk about losing in practice or in the locker room... The word "lose" does not exist right now..... We need to take care of our business, win the next game, beat the Caps..... Everyone is coming to play with intensity, and win.......
mf
Fri May 11 2012 7:18 am EST
Vic, good points. Richards<Backstrom Gabby=Semin(this series) Cally<Ovy(By a lot) even McD<Green(Offensively at this time) and Girardi<Wideman(but that one is close) Where we are better. King>Holtby and Staal>Any Cap D. Otherwise we over matched at this point. I would still rather have our roster. Kreider, Hagelin, Dubinsky, MDZ should all continue to improve and grow together over the next few years. They will contend every year for the next decade if the King holds up.
DCIGolfer
Fri May 11 2012 6:50 am EST
OLA: No question about it, being behind when playing a team like the Rangers or CAPS is bad news. Yes, many of those chances that the CAPS have had are because of that, especially over the last three games. However, the CAPS are still getting those odd man rushes and chances at even strength when the games are tied. They control and move the puck better then the Rangers. There aren't too many folks around here who don't know the game. Most of us have watched and played for decades. I can't believe that people here are being objective when they say that they think the Rangers are the better team. That's ok. I get being a fan and being blinded by your desire to see your team win. I'm just not wired that way. Part of my frustration in watching these games is hearing the dopey broadcast team gush about the CAPS. I really hate it but if I'm going to be honest about it then I have to realize that they are gushing about the CAPS simply because the CAPS look like the better team and are playing better hockey for the lion-share of these games. Sure, the Rangers put on a "surge" from time to time as the broadcast team words it. However, saying that the Rangers are putting on a surge is really just pointing out the times in the game where the CAPS don't look like they are in control or the game looks balanced. I don't think there is any conspiracy against the Rangers. I think people are naturally drawn toward talent and skill. Talent and skill always looks better to the eyes then hard-hat or lunch-pail play. And again, the thing that really draws your eyes to the difference between these two teams is how they handle and control the PP. That is the time where your skill and talent should give you the advantage of time and space to make plays. Except that the Rangers don't have the hands to take advantage of it. The CAPS do. And it looks obvious.
Vic
Fri May 11 2012 6:50 am EST
stevielegs----WORD-Brotha!!!!!.LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!!!!!
thedugster
Fri May 11 2012 6:35 am EST
Dugster many decided to jump ship early because they wanted to aviod the rush if they lose game 7. They haven't figured out what to do after the NYR WIN game 7. It's part of the NYR coping mechanism. Tomorrow is the future, not the past. It's time to forget the past, not relive it. I'm not interested in being right or wrong, just win. My superstitions will probably continue, as will everyone else's regardless.....Just wish they had gotten Nash, but I hope they prove me wrong. ......this is not the time to quit.......remember tug mcgraw........that's what this TEAM has to do.........they don't know the easy way.........yet..........
stevielegs
Fri May 11 2012 5:52 am EST
I stayed from the wall for a few days because just like many of you I was Pissed, upset and really baffelled how we could play so poorly. But the truth is It was one game, it was a stinker and we have always bounced back after a stinker. This team is more then the sum of its parts, yes to Vics points the caps have more talent and man for man are a better talented team. But as a team Im picking our boys to pull off a big win tomorrow. I also cant get over the fact this is the 3 or 4th youngest team in the league so the future looks amazing. Im sure in the off season the scoring issue will be addressed and that will make us better. We need to be positive and root our team to a big FUCKING WIN AT MSG!!!!!!!!!!!lEtS Go rAnGeRs~!!!!!!!
thedugster
Fri May 11 2012 5:46 am EST
"With an average ticket price of $718.42, the game is the most expensive f the season, surpassing the Winter Classic ($521.85), according to TiqIQ. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/game_tix_don_come_cheap_T9aQpJD6JqoWG6GtrMmzdL#ixzz1uYactN40
stevielegs
Fri May 11 2012 5:44 am EST
"The power play, an easy target in the wake of an 0-for-5 performance that included failure on a second period four-minute advantage in Wednesday’s Game 6, 2-1 defeat in D.C., is operating at 18.2 percent (4-for-22) in the series, a higher efficiency than the regular season’s 15.7 percent. Moreover, the power play won Game 5 by scoring on both ends of a double minor, first with 7.6 seconds remaining in regulation and then at 1:35 of OT, after having produced a third-period tying goal in Game 2. The penalty-kill, however, has allowed four PPG’s on 19 Washington advantages for a 78.9-percent success rate that is lower than the season’s estimable 86.2-percent efficiency. Three of the goals were killers and the fourth would have been if not for Brad Richards’ heroic goal with 7.6 seconds remaining in Game 5. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/special_teams_penalty_killer_TxWZxZIPGxOVyDDfxjcB0K#ixzz1uYZwYkAa
stevielegs
Fri May 11 2012 5:42 am EST
".The Rangers have scored just one even-strength, 5-on-5 goal in 144:52, going back to the second period of Game 4. Tortorella was asked what his team needs to do better in order to score. “We’ve discussed that as a team,” he said, “we’ll keep that in the locker room.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/tortorella_putting_wraps_on_kreider_rxULzEL15PdupIziFeBSMN#ixzz1uYYsd3JE
stevielegs
Fri May 11 2012 4:15 am EST
Vic- I definitely agree on the play in the regular season vs PO's. But I don't agree at all with the rest. You have to remember that in the 3 games we lost, we gave Was the lead early on in two games after ridiculos misstakes and in the 3rd loss we gave up a goal after 1.30... Both teams kind of play the same way. And you could ask any observer that when two teams like this play against each other, the team sitting on the lead will look a helluva lot more composed then the team trying to catch up. In the regular season we could catch up at times because teams didn't match our intensity for 60 minutes. But we still won most of our games, by far, by not giving up the first goal. Or more relevant during the regular season, finding ourself behind with 20 to go or something. In the 3 games we have won, when we have not given up a lead early, I've not been impressed with Washington's ability to expose us at all. Not at all. Bäckstörm has been able to open things up at times, but that have been the only option they have had. Like in the 3OT game. Its just me speculating, but I definitely think that people who think that this Was team is good, is in for a big suprise if they beat us and end up playing NJD.
Ola
Fri May 11 2012 12:21 am EST
Chimera looks like Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart. No way Holtby has been better than Henrik in this series. Their effort sucked last game. They need to bring it Saturday. Then, they need to kick Uncle Daddy's ass.
Bob
Thu May 10 2012 11:15 pm EST
And that damn Chimera still looks like the Kanamit from 'To Serve Man.' IT'S A COOKBOOK! (Apologies to non Twilight Zone fans.)
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 11:12 pm EST
Vic, I can't disagree with most of your points. I wondered all year how this team kept winning, but they did. Hard work way more often than not (now equalized by playoff opponents), good goalie, opportunistic decent offense (but again, stifled by opponents' playoff intensity). Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why Torts' ice time choices bother me so much. Any skill level you have you gotta use. Holtby is a great story and is ice water out there, but I can count the truly great saves he's had to make on one hand. Hank has had to make a ton more, and has gotten beat by rocket shots from the high slot time and again, not really his fault because come on -- blasts from 40 feet by Ovechkin, Backstrom, Green are gonna be tough. But Torts has well and truly choked this round. What, after Ottawa and Game One with the Caps, Kreider sucks now and is a gamble? We can't use his speed and skill? We gotta play John Freaking Mitchell on the PP? For faceoffs? Because he won one? Shouldn't that be Brad "One Million Bucks Per Month" Richards out there? Not knocking the guy, just saying that he's the choice for those spots, not a AHL Leaf reject who 'works hard.' Okay now I'm rambling. I hate like hell anticipating the NBC story line of Holtby v. The Legendary 40-Year-Old Sister-in-Law Banger. And I'll be pulling like hell for the kid. But let's win Saturday and beat that fat old fuck ourselves.
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 10:24 pm EST
I've been traveling and haven't had the chance to weigh in until now. Those who know my point of view know that I do not think highly of this team's talent level. They accomplished what they did in the regular season by playing playoff intensity hockey all season long. Nobody plays that way in the regular season but everybody does at the end of the year and in the playoffs. That is why teams like the SENS and CAPS (who had mediocre at best seasons) have given the Rangers so much trouble. In particular, this CAPS team. As others have noted the CAPS are basically playing the same game as the Rangers. What has become clear to me in watching all six games is that they are better then the Rangers from top to bottom. Their top 6 forwards are more skilled, their bottom 6 forwards are more effective, their goaltender is more consistent and their coach has a better feel for his team and its opponent. Sure, if you want to analyze the individual goals to determine if one was lucky and one wasn't you can play that game. What I see when I watch these games is the difference in the play between these two teams. How many breakaways have the Rangers had? I can recall only 1. I can recall several for the CAPS. How many 2 on 1s and Odd man rushes for the Rangers? I don't recall any 2 on 1s. The CAPS have had many. The Rangers handle the puck like it is a grenade. They can't consistently and cleanly make 10 to 15 foot passes. When I watch the CAPS I see tape to tape passing up and down the ice. When you watch the Rangers PP you really see the lack of hands on this team. The CAPS are putting pressure on the Rangers. To beat that pressure you need to move the puck quickly and cleanly to the open man. The Rangers are simply unable to do that. They are unable to make the clean passes (and pass receptions) that are necessary. The CAPS pounce on them the second they fumble with the puck. The CAPS, on the other hand, move the puck with ease on the PP and are able to consistently generate scoring chances from the slot off the pass. Which leads me to my last point.......how many goals (hell even shots) have the Rangers gotten off from the high slot in this series. I can only remember the goal by KREIDER. I literally cannot remember even one other clean shot the Rangers have taken from the high slot at even strength or even on the PP. The CAPS are getting quality shots from the high slot every game. I was as disgusted as many of you watching that game last night. Will I be watching on Saturday? No, I will not. I will be playing hockey instead. I don't know if I would have watched even if I could have. I probably would have because I am as much of an idiot, sucker Rangers fan as the rest of you. I am going to tape the game but for the first time ever for me in a playoff game I am going to find out the score before I decide if I am going to watch it. My prediction for the game is that the CAPS will win 4 to 1. The last goal will be an empty net goal. Hopefully I am wrong. Hopefully this "idiot savant" season will continue past Saturday. I will hold off on the topic of next season until after the last nail is in the coffin for this season.
Vic
Thu May 10 2012 10:06 pm EST
Ferocious.., spot on! We can only roll with what we have so, let's hope for a better effort and a win Sat.nite. Just so RF..stops busting my chops!
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 9:37 pm EST
PA...It's a difficult dilemma when you want to enjoy this ride after such a successful regular season and now one win away from the conference finals. You don't want to dampen it for others, but....performances like that are inexcusable. We lost game 3 vs WAS in 94, but the level of effort was in a different universe from that pathetic display last night. It was so abysmal that it canot be overstated. Everyone should be enraged and disgusted. This time of year, luck may disappear, positive results may be elusive, but effort should always be clearly evident. It was not last night, and there is no excusing it.
FerociousMonk94
Thu May 10 2012 9:30 pm EST
Shtting the bed SUCKS! ;^)
RF4L
Thu May 10 2012 9:29 pm EST
Ferocious.., not for nothing, but I had the same reaction to last nite's "non"-performance as you and tussled on here all day with folks. Hell, I'm even the newest member of the elite fighting unit known as THE CLUELESS JACKASS CLUB! Some here are 1/2 full, some 1/2 empty; it may not always be pretty but we all have a good time. Rip,Shit, or Bust!
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 9:27 pm EST
In '94 I had the asinine, superstitious ritual of laying all of the major newspapers on the floor during the game, with the back page headline reporting Ranger playoff victories facing up. I still have all those papers. By the end, they covered a lot of floor space. And probably contain a few drops of spilled beer. Maybe it wasn't so asinine. Something worked.
FerociousMonk94
Thu May 10 2012 9:10 pm EST
.....I'm just reading all the posts about our little habits and issues and I'm LMAO....I can't believe we all have these weird patterns that we've convinced ourselves will affect the outcome of Ranger games...me for instance....after the game 3 loss against the Craps for which I had my "Lucky" 1994 Ranger Puck in the room, I promptly went ouside and chucked it into the woods...upon sober reflection it probably wasn't the right move! My language has become legendary watching Ranger games.....my wife knows better than to stay with me. Its odd because for Giant games she's actually good luck....imagine that!!
MelvilleFred
Thu May 10 2012 8:56 pm EST
Bob...then how do you explain the Capitals out Rangering us? Because they have superior talent that can easily convert to a counter attack after collapsing 5 guys in front of their Goalie......
MelvilleFred
Thu May 10 2012 8:53 pm EST
Ferocious...completely understand the frustration....after all we're Ranger fans......just wanted to slap you back into the fold for Saturday! Great posts by York18 and OLA this morning....right on the money. For me Saturday is my 60th Birthday and these guys will either lkill me or cure me.....I concur that we absolutely have to score first!!!! Was watching the World Championships or whatever that thing is called...US vs.whatever.....the thing that was most noticeable and what some of us have been calling for a long time is the larger Ice surface. There was flow to the game. there was room, guys were skating unimpeeded.....it was actually Hockey, what a concept....and oh yeah there were 3 guys and a dog in atendance.
MelvilleFred
Thu May 10 2012 8:53 pm EST
The Rangers are not devoid of offensive talent. Their system mutes offensive talent. They rarely have an odd man rush for themselves, because they are so deep in their own zone defending.
Bob
Thu May 10 2012 8:43 pm EST
Tortarella- Is it me, or is TORTS coaching not to lose this series instead of to win? Something is so strange in this series in the sense that Boyle, Prust, Fedotenko, Kreider, Stepan have become non-factors... all this play along teh boards without any net crashing, the lack of pinching in by the defense just seems very unnaggresive and out of character for this team... I trust TORTS... the NYRs would be playing golf without him right now.. BUT.....
schneidw
Thu May 10 2012 8:40 pm EST
Hospo... Was the concert at MSG? Best concert I ever saw (Grateful Dead) and worst concert I ever saw (Grateful Dead). As far as non-GD, best (Janes Addiction) and worst (REM).. I never saw the bands you listed, but I am suprised by BC since whenever I have seen Paul Rodgers on TV, he seems like a great performer... just not a fan of his music... Thanks for the NYR topic break... I am really nervous about Game 7... If the NYRs get knocked out AGAIIN by teh CAPS, I am going to snap!
schneidw
Thu May 10 2012 6:01 pm EST
MELVILLE, AND WHOEVER...I cna understand why you would tell me to screw off after my posts. I'm not looking to flame with anyone here. I get all the flaming I need elsewhere. The internet is a much bigger place now than it was when we all started skirmishing here. I'm just venting my frustration with the way this team plays sometimes, venting too much I'm sure. That's the way I roll - nothing in moderation. I listened to Boomer today, and while he's an insufferable rah-rah guy, he reminds me of myself when I had more time and more of a stomach for this shit. I took my 8-yr old daughter tio her first two Ranger games this year, and they shit the bed in both. Anytime this year I have gone out of my way to go to games or meet friends to watch a game, they have shit the bed. All things considered, I'm amazed they earned the record they did after all the shit performances I have seen this year. I'll leave it at that. Not trying to begrudge anyone their enjoyment, just expressing my feelings as a fan, amongst other fans.
FerociousMonk94
Thu May 10 2012 5:41 pm EST
Hospo.., I'm real old-school when it comes to the great, classic bands. I never was a Bad Co. fan either but Rodgers is a legend. I was and still am to this day a die-hard KISS fan but what they are now is reprehensible, just to give another egs..
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 5:38 pm EST
td...I'm a die-hard also as is everybody that posts here. I guess there's just diff levels of insanity. I respect your take and at the end of the day I would be standing with you to get our guys over the hump.
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 5:14 pm EST
Newfie_Ranger - I didn't really understand why the team kept feeding GIRARDI...There were a couple times he shot the puck where I think if it had bean ANYONE else, it would have gone in. That's one of the things that got me punching things last night...yeah...you're on a three-on-one. Pass the goddamn puck to the guy who was tied for 12th on the team in goals...
tdchi
Thu May 10 2012 5:09 pm EST
pa - everyone is entitled to their thoughts. I just personally can't stand it when people bash their own team on a fan website as bad as some were doing last night. Don't like 'em? Fine. Don't watch 'em. Seems clear to me...KIS - I don't know if you read Carp's site regularly, but he has an EXCELLENT take on the game last night. A must-read even. Carp, though he gets a little snarky at times, is about as realistic as someone can be about the team and he's got a keen insight into their inner workings. He was one of the guys who used to piss me off because of his support for Torts...but lo-and-behold, everything he wrote when I was yelling "FIRE TORTS" here at the beginning of the season proved balls-on accurate...his take on the game was that there were two real lucky events that occurred to lose that game for the Rangers...the first was when CALLAHAN "blew a tire" so to speak, which allowed OVECHKIN to get open and score that top-shelf goal...the second was a REAL lucky deflection off BACKSTROM'S skate, putting the puck on CHIMERA'S skate for the goal. Take those two gaffs away and the game is MUCH different...not to say the Rangers played GOOD last night(they didn't) or that the coaching was GOOD(it wasn't)...but that the bounces sure weren't going in our favor. I was just as angry last night as anyone. My girl had to shut the windows in the house because she said my shouting was clearly audible several blocks away...And let me tell you, there was some furniture flung...but when I woke up this morning, I felt a lot better...Rangers have more than a chance to win this. And if they don't, fine. Everyone can grouse. But until then, I'm keeping hope. I'm not going to sit here and pine about what could have been with NASH or what could be with PARISE, because it's stupid. There's AT LEAST 60 minutes of the Rangers' season left, and a good chance there will be more. I'm going to be drinking, screaming and cheering AT LEAST until those 60 minutes are done. Anyone who thinks that's stupid simply doesn't see this team in the way that myself and many other diehard fans do.
tdchi
Thu May 10 2012 4:42 pm EST
Use the lines from games 6 & 7 of the Senators series and the Rangers win the game. Use the same lines from last night and the Rangers will be booking tee times!
Tucc
Thu May 10 2012 3:06 pm EST
Ranger47 - Agree big time on the PP and The King and the lines.....I expect The King to be fine....and the lines to not be drastically different..but, man, that PP..outside those two plays the other night, it has been a life sucking force for the Rangers and an energizer for the Caps....Just one damn lucky goal --traffic would help--is all they need...Can't see Torts making changes---like using McD---but at least get those asses in front and shoot quicker...
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 3:01 pm EST
PA - Have to agree with Hospo - I think Freddie would have approved of Adam Lambert. Would like to see that concert - where is it? But back to the Rangers.....Having last change at home will help a lot, since the matchups in DC were a killer for us. Would also like to see the lines restructured, but game 7 at home is probably not the right time to try it unless we fall behind. I think this will come down to whether we can score at least one PP goal and Henrik comes up strong....LGR!
Ranger47
Thu May 10 2012 2:58 pm EST
I've grown to appreciate Queen as I've gotten older. Man, what a singer/frontman Freddie Mercury used to be. ...One of my fave HD channels is Palladia. Some great concert footage.
Zebop
Thu May 10 2012 2:24 pm EST
PA - I don't know, I think Freddie might approve more of Adam Lambert than Paul Rogers! All kidding aside, I've seen Lambert with Queen and he doen't fit in that bad.......OTOH, the worst concet i ever saw in my life was Bad Co. and Rodgers (next to Foreigner)...and I was reminded of that watchiung their crappy performance from wembley (2010) the other night..
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 2:19 pm EST
I just don't like the way the lines are structured right now. Worst set of 4 lines for the entire year.The PP sucks and has no game plan and ofcourse Torts simply refuses to use off-wing shots at the sides and the points. Also, Girardi has to come off that point. I know you don't need a cannon like Chara but my God my daughter shoots harder than him. If Holtby didn't wear a mask ,he could catch it in his teeth !.............I am worried about Sat night @ MSG. The stars will have to be in perfect alignment for us to pull this one off . Keep the faith and Let's Go Rangers !
Newfie_Ranger
Thu May 10 2012 1:55 pm EST
RF that is nothing you should watch a game with Pa fan. You would think he is a writer for the saw movies. the things he would do with that stick would make him the most hated man in the league. hahaha it is hillarious to listen to him during a game.
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 1:42 pm EST
And one more thing: QUEEN is doing shows with Adam Lambert! Really! Ok, Paul Rodgers I can see but this? Somewhere the legend Freddy Mercury is rolling in his grave!
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 1:33 pm EST
My wife gets upset with me when I get all wound up at players like Chris Neil and blurt out 'I hope someone gouges out that phucker's eye so he has to retire. I'd applaud that bigtime'.
RF4L
Thu May 10 2012 1:32 pm EST
Hospo: LOLOL...I hope you've since toughened that boy up! LOLOL...funny story....
RF4L
Thu May 10 2012 1:27 pm EST
Hospo.., you know how much I enjoy reading those fat-finger posts! LOL
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 1:11 pm EST
i hate spelling
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 1:10 pm EST
PA - Hey, once I start worrying about typing and spelling, I lose my cluelessness...!! ...
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 1:10 pm EST
nah my boy is 15 going on 16 but still doesn't make it right. Can't wait for him to say that great dad is that what 3 educational degrees bings to your vocabulary
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 1:07 pm EST
Hell with that; since I don't let my 8 yr old son 'cuss like his dad, he makes up his own 'cuss words!
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 1:06 pm EST
Just so you all know. KIS is an educator in his professional life. Hospo..I'm assuming is not. My point is, Big Boy needs to use that spell-check for those 2nd grade words he can't seem to spell!
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 1:04 pm EST
KIS: Trust your son isn't like 6 years old!
RF4L
Thu May 10 2012 12:56 pm EST
Zebop - hah, I remeber a game during the 1994 run when my son was 4.....I let out a Giant animalstic F-bomb that the entire neigberhood heard....My son was walikng around the living room and dropped like he had been shot at the lound noise....and strarted balling...and then the wife comes fying out of nowhere screaming at me with words I HAD never heard..oh, it was a fun night...:)
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 12:54 pm EST
Hospo- Agreed. Still can't complain about the heart of this team. Just bring it on Saturday night for 60 minutes and make sure we dominate from start to finish so a bad call or bad bounce doesn't bounce us out of the playoffs. A two goal lead would be a dream and having my 9 year old not hearing any more F-bombs from me would be a plus as well! (the only time i ever curse in front of him!)
Fotiu22
Thu May 10 2012 12:51 pm EST
FOTIU - Agree on Boyle..The heart is there, but the body not as much...He has taken a beating, not jsut the concussions..seems to have slowed him down a bit...Cally has slowed down measurably also....It's a grind...I think both physically and mentally the Rangers just hiot a real bad spot last night....But what matters is what happens on Saturday,..
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 12:47 pm EST
sorry for the langueage
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 12:43 pm EST
my son laughed when I said if the fuckin ref had another fucking eye the cocksucker would be a psclops. how could you be sucha fucking mutha fucker and make such jackass call. That was when Stralman made the dive and before i saw the replay.
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 12:42 pm EST
Boyle is clearly not the same player he was prior to his concussion. That line of Boyle, Cally and Anisimov is eating up a ton of minutes and I can't recall them having more than one good scoring chance in two games.
Fotiu22
Thu May 10 2012 12:40 pm EST
My son is too young to hear me spew "bad" words while watching the Rangers suck with me. I have to keep everything inside, at least until he goes to bed. No wonder I grind my f-ing teeth while I sleep! ... love the "Bodhi" reference. Classic movie!
Zebop
Thu May 10 2012 12:39 pm EST
JF do you realize many of these idiotic tendencies come once we get married. That change of life makes us all crazy. We no longer have the ability to release frustration and we get another type of craziness applied to our lifes. We have no choice but to become mad. Because now everything that happens in this new combination is the mans fault when something goes wrong. We cant hollar at the wife so we are left to show insane behavior at a TV. sad thing about it is no matter how loud we curse and scream those goes can't hear us. What a life
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 12:20 pm EST
RF4L -- what the heck do kids nowadays know? They have no clue the suffering we've endured and how it has led to post-traumatic stress syndrome....which, in turn, causes violent verbal abuse, ridiculous neurotic beavior, and a laundry list of other weirdness, often unique to each individual fan. It's hell......and yet, we keep coming back for more.!!
JFC31
Thu May 10 2012 12:14 pm EST
JFC: LOL...funny stuff. My 22 year old gets all annoyed with me when I start yelling about the PP sucking or certain players sucking. He just doesn't get it because he's only become a fan this year - he doesn't have 40 years of oftentimes mind-numbing history weighting him down! I've tried to educate him, reciting the pain of the early 70s and the Bruins, then the late 70s and the Flyers pounding us. I cannot even recall now what happened in the 80s, then the wondrous 94 year, followed by what I think might be the blackest years of all: The late 90s to 2004 when the Rangers, led by Sather himself, were the laughing stock not only of pro hockey, but of NA professional sports.
RF4L
Thu May 10 2012 12:10 pm EST
Since we were quoting "Dalton" lines yesterday, how about this "Bodhi" line for game 7 prep: " Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true."
RinkRat
Thu May 10 2012 12:04 pm EST
LOL! I was spewing some very vile words last night myself! My wife walked into the room with a plate of food and the Caps scored the 1st goal....so I yelled at her and told her to get out, she had wrecked all of my superstitious preparations....books on the coffee table all alligned in 2 corners, remote control in one corner, cell phone in the last corner, eyeglass case on couch arm....all RUINED because she came in the room with food. She should have remembered from '94 that food in the family room spells disaster during the PO's ....but noooooo, she forgets! Sheeesh!
JFC31
Thu May 10 2012 12:04 pm EST
JFC - Simple answer, Big Bad John Scott will have to play against the Devils..:)..If we get there, I'll gladly take the roster and depth worries involved....Not that it helps becasue there is little help down in CT, but they can recall the whole dame team after they get eliminated this weekend (sorry Dineen11!)
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 12:01 pm EST
KIS - Same with my son...Actually, his friends come over to the house to watch the games just to hear what I might say...At least I can't get in trouble now like I did when they were younger and would go home to mom after riding in a car with me and ask "what's a fuckin four eyes?"..The only time i curse more than watching a ranger game is playing golf!
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 11:56 am EST
I'm still really aggravated from last night's game but I've come down off the ledge. We've got a good chance to take the game on Saturday in MSG with the crowd rockin' and the adreneline pumpin'....still, what are we gonna have left for the next series? After Saturday, this will literally have been an 8 game series....hell, if it goes to OT again, it will be even more! IMO, the Devils would be dead-meat against a fresh Rangers team.....our advantage in goal is tremendous and Brodeur looks old and Hank is in his head. It's right there for the pickin' but what will we have left? Will it be enough?
JFC31
Thu May 10 2012 11:53 am EST
At least some have calmed down. This place can be therapeutic. good to see that boys. Talking about cussing, my son just laughed at my stupidity last night. I don't think he knew you could use fuck in so many times in a sentence. saturday is gonna be, oh my. I'm gonna have to be in a bunker by myself. Kids and wife are gonna have to go see a movie.
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 11:51 am EST
The drummer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers was on NHL live yesterday and predicted the caps would def. win game 6.......But the light at the end of the tunnel is that he also predicted the Rangers would win in Game 7.
TradeStar28
Thu May 10 2012 11:37 am EST
I have never coached beyond youth hockey, so am not worthy to criticize. But as an observer, I don't get the idea of Boyle centering the second line and of the third line getting so much play when we are behind late in the game. Is Torts so concerned about giving up the 3rd goal when we are down by 2 with less than 5 minutes to go that he continues to put Prust and Fedotenko out there? Is he so concerned with Kreider's defensive deficiencies that he cannot put him out there when down by 2 becuase he doesn't want to go down by 3? I can understand that action when we are ahead in the game, but 2 goals behind? It was beyond frustrating to watch that last night.
Bob
Thu May 10 2012 11:36 am EST
As for next year, it seems like a lot of people have conceded Parise (and Suter) to the Wings. So will we go hard after Nash? I'm going to be a glass-half-full guy and pencil in Sauer, so the D's not too shabby. Anyone have a take on The Av's Jones? 20-25 goals, and less of a cap hit.
Rexi29
Thu May 10 2012 11:31 am EST
Learn, schmern. Protect, schmot ... you get the idea. As I've said, teach in November or February. Get the kid's speed and offense on the ice for God's sake. We're dyin' out there.
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 11:29 am EST
Honored to be considered clueless! Here's how I stand: the Caps were more desperate last night, and gave every ounce of energy to win that game, and they did. But now it's time for game 7, in our building. Both teams have played 13 games, and both are spent. But it's our house, and I think we'll have the extra gas in the tank. Doesn't mean I'll watch the game, as I'm trying to avoid an ulcer, but I'm more confident than not.
Rexi29
Thu May 10 2012 11:23 am EST
WILDCARD - I think you are dead wrong about that last post.....But if you are right, then Torts is dead wrong and screwing up big time...the 6th game of the PO series is not for teaching, it is not for protecting, it is not for worrying about feelings, it is only for winnng and my bet is that everything Torts did last night was becasue it waswhat he thought he had to do to win........On the slight chance that isn't true. he is screwing up big time and doing a disservice to everybody else on the team......Win or go home....you worry about the other shit later..
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 11:13 am EST
Torts has talked openly about it with kids, I think he OVER protects them. He has said so many times that he doesn't want to put them in a spot that can hurt their confidence. I think with Kreider, he is looking for the perfect situation to use him, so that he is "safe" and cant cost the game. Also, with 2 days off before game 7 again, it gives the coaching staff a day to work with him and a day off for him to watch tape and such. So perhaps he sees more ice time on Saturday. But last night, being down early, I wouldn't be shocked if he wanted to make sure Kreider couldn't blame himself for the loss, so he pulled him back too much...I don't think Torts punishes kids, most of the time when he pulls back on a kid its for them to learn. and it usually works. I could be wrong, but its how I read it.
Wildcard
Thu May 10 2012 11:03 am EST
CM - I do think the Caps have been out playing the Rangers in the physical department as the Rangers have seemed to pull back on the intesity of their hitting to focus more on "skirmishes" and winning the puck along the baords which also takes alot of energy.....The Caps, OTOH, are still steam rolling....Two different strategies and bith have been effecrtive (or not) at times.......But I alos agree that the Rangers (guys like Cally, Stepan) look a little fatigued.....Regarding losing the shot blocking game...I only think that's true becasue the Rangers are controlling the puck alot and getting it (or being forced) to the point where soths are being blocked....Unlike t he Senator series, The Caps aren't controlling play in the Rangers zone as much...as a result, fewer blocked shots.
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 10:57 am EST
Hospo.., I am truly humbled and honored.
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 10:56 am EST
Hospo.., creative. Might I add the letters m and f to that list!
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 10:55 am EST
Nick- I'd hate losing to any of the Atlantic crappy teams more as well, but there is something to be said about losing to a caps team for the third consecutive time with a different rookie goalie. That's the kind fo thing that can mess with a teams head (and Hank's). It would be devastating and I would think it would be stuck in the back of the teams head going into the next playoff series these teams met. However, I don't care that this team finished 8th. They were underachieving for the most part and didn't really buy into Hunter's system until much later. They were first in the East last year and remained relatively the same, built around a very talented core. This team could easily have challenged the Rangers for 1st overall if they played like this all year as the Rangers did. They play the same style and have been outplaying us in the shot blocking physical department. That is my other concern with the Rangers. Does it seem like fatigue has been the reason we don;'t see as much bodily sacrifice? We haven't been as aggressive physically since that first period of the first (2nd?) game where Cally just abused Green. The Caps have taken advantage of that. They also have learned that when Del Zotto and Stralman are ont he ice, they can ice the puck and win the battle to negate the icing. That is one of the biggest concerns for me, as that tell me they have found a chink in the armour and we don't have an answer (other than the three days in hypebolic chamber as previously suggested!)
ColoradoMark
Thu May 10 2012 10:54 am EST
PA - You defientely have!
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 10:53 am EST
Pa.rangersfan - You and me both..My son and dog were hiding...Had to be at least 10 new creations with alot of use of the letters c and k...
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 10:52 am EST
Hospo.., I want in too! I think I've earned it.
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 10:52 am EST
Zebop - Wondered if anybody would catch that..I know it shows my age but couldn't help it..
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 10:51 am EST
KIS.., you know me baby! I re-invented the foul language dictionary last nite!
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 10:50 am EST
KIS - As you should be..:)..and would be!!....Ill have to check with the other Grand Poo-Bahs of the Clueless Jackasses (KILL--If I can find him --and Chin) but it is about time we expnaded!!!
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 10:49 am EST
MZA actually MDZ.
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 10:49 am EST
Nick.., not for nothing, but your posts are pretty spot on.
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 10:48 am EST
I'm reposting this from late last night, just for info purposes. No I haven't given up, but anyway: Don't flame me for looking way ahead, but ... Feds ($1.4), Prust (800K), Mitchell (650), Eminger (800) and Biron (800) are UFAs this summer. Dubi makes $3.75 next year then $4.65 the two years after that. No. 17 ain't going nowhere except down the depth chart (I hope). RFAs after this year are Zucc (850), MZA (875), Stralman (900) and Bickel (600). RFAs after 12-13 are Stepan (875), Hagelin (688), AA (188), McD (875) and Sauer (1.25M). Girardi, Cally, Rupp, Gabby, Boyle and Hank are UFAs after 13-14. Two-year window as I see it. So keep teaching a big fast talented kid a 'lesson' this year, Torts, and play grinders when behind late in games. Heck, we'll win eventually, right? I think someone in the Ranger org said that in 1941.
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 10:47 am EST
Atta boy Pa. keep firing away. always took you a little longer to calm down. Just wait til Saturday you will be frother up again. MA better watch out you might take her out at the knee. BOys, this is a man who got coaches so fired up a couple wanted to fuckin physically hit him. I never laughed so hard on the field sometimes
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 10:46 am EST
I for one think the team looked tired. We lost battles to pucks we used to win. The lack of trust Torts has in the lower two lines and Bickel has dramatically affected the "jump" in players like Del Zotto, Stralman, Cally, Gabby, Richards and Stepan. I think Anisimov and Hagelin still have their speed, but thats because Anisimov has been used sparingly and Hags is a young speedy stud (hmm, out of contect that could sound like a stage name for, ah, never mind.) I think Girardi, Staal and McDonough seem to be fine, perhaps even thriving on the workhorse load. Lundqvist is a little too far back int he net and he is going down too quickly. I knowhe prefers to stay back as a lot of European goalies do, but as well as he's played at times, he hasn't looked as sharp as he (unfortunatlely) needs to be for this team's offense.
ColoradoMark
Thu May 10 2012 10:46 am EST
Tort's handling of K is infuriating. yeah, the kid might not be the difference but seriously: this team has very few guys with his skill and now, if he does deign to put him out there, he'll be so afraid of making a mistake he won't do a thing. Someone made the point below and it's true: there are five skaters out there and if someone screws up there are guys to cover and all mistakes don't end up in our net. We have the impregnable Hank, after all. I just hate Torts and his arrogance and his stubborness and his know-it-all bullshit approach. Geezus I thought his running guys into the ground was bad enough; now add Mitchell on the power play, Prust getting twice K's ice time, and all the rest. So we have to beat the Caps and our own coach. I can accept losing; the Caps are doing a good job and they ain't the Flyers or Devils, losses to whom would make me more depressed than usual. But come on, Genius. Play to win.
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 10:44 am EST
Nice Traffic reference, HOSPO, by the way. Great band. Was just listening to the Winwood/Clapton concert from MSG a few years back. Music to my ears!
Zebop
Thu May 10 2012 10:44 am EST
CM - Said the same last night...In the big picture, TORTS has done a fine job with this team...However, his in-game strategy and tactics need improvement and variety..He's just too damn stubborn ...Again, helps in the long run, but maybe not in the short run of individual games..OTOH, not deviating from the way he wants to play has lead the Rangers to winning 7 PO games so far...Will sticking to it add an 8th? We'llsee..
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 10:43 am EST
Pa and myself would be honored
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 10:42 am EST
Hospo.., I welcome the moniker of CLUELESS JACKASS! My boy KIS will tell you, I have carried it with me since I was a wee-lad.
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 10:40 am EST
KIS - Just having fun...The CLUELESS JACKASSES are a 10-12 year old Wall institution originally started by clueless jackasses like my self, KILL-EM-ALL, CHINSTRAP, DESPO?? and others with the main requirement of being able to spout off cluelessly and magnificently about the Rangers.....LIke You last Night,..I was thinking you would make a fine member!....
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 10:39 am EST
If Chimera or Hendricks were free agents next year, you know Sather would try to sign them. All Ranger killers are targets for Sather. HEck, it only took Boyle 1 goal to convince Sather we needed him (smart). Gaby scores 5 against us and that sealed his fate (another good one). Rupp scores a hat trick and he's signed. Drury delivers a crucial clutch goal against us right before free agency.
ColoradoMark
Thu May 10 2012 10:39 am EST
td.., not gonna sit here and justify to you what my views are. I never engaged in name calling so you and everybody else take that for what it's worth. You wanna view things as 1/2 full, great. I don't and never have in the 35 years that I have been a Ranger Fan. Never said the Regular Season, I stress Reg.Season, wasn't a fun ride. Don't know your background as an athlete, but mine consisted of some big games in my younger days. Sure, I was only a young man/kid at that point but still grasped the concept of giving it that extra when hardware was on the line. I you were pleased with that effort last nite than carry that torch. I for one was not and I don't want to hear how we all should be happy just to be here. That's horse-shit of the highest order. You show to the dance, fucking dance!
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 10:34 am EST
I think overall Torts has done a great job, but he is being outcoached in this series. He has a stubborn streak that has been a problem, especially with accountability for young players. He has done to Kreider exactly what he did to Mike Sauer when Sauer was first recalled three years ago. The kid played great and had an impact in his first few games. Then he made a bonehead mistake (that was actually Redden's fault) and the kid was benched and then one of the first cuts the next year in camp. Int he long run, Sauer developed nicely. But I think he loses trust too quickly, especially in this situation where Kreider had such an impact in the games he was given a lot of minutes. If he is on a line with Cally and Stepan, he will have enough responsible players helping him out that the potential reward far outweighs the potential risk. He never keeps his lines together until last night. Weird. I'd go: Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik, Callahan-Stepan-Kreider, Anisimov-Boyle-Zuccarello, Fedotenko-Rupp-Prust. I know Zucc is probablly not ready, so I'd put Feds up in that spot and keep Mitchell on the 4th line. I'd rather bench Rupp over Mitchell, but Torts would never do that so why bother fantasizing. You add Dubi to that lineup and bench Rupp at that point. Then you have a little more depth.
ColoradoMark
Thu May 10 2012 10:30 am EST
hospo do you want to clue us in?
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 10:28 am EST
Man, you "newcomers" are really perverting the CLUELESS JACKASSES...:)..John Tortorella wouldn't stand a chance of being admitted.....DESPO...KILL-EM...CHIN....BOB...Are you out there? :
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 10:24 am EST
Wild, totally agree. Xanax can do wonders last night I would have and did call all of you people clueless jackass. hahaha A team does go thru stages its a shame that the president of the clueless jackass club it Torts. Now is not the time to teach lessons. he needs to pull Kreider to the side and teach and instruct. The kid has a good hockey IQ and this team needs his speed. I still wish somebody would fuck chimera up. Take the blade of the stick and chop off that stupiid looking goat tee.
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 10:15 am EST
td: Agree, its been a great year regardless of the outcome. This team and its players learned how to do what they need in the regular season in order to give them their best chance in the playoffs. Adding to that, this is the first time this team has had the "pressure" of being a top seed. At every level of truly competitive event, the leader, top dog, best team/person, or whatever has a unique pressure, that MOST fold under when they first feel it. I am sure everyone remembers the first year the Pens were picked, and had a great year, they didn't win the cup, hell, they didn't even look that good, and it wasn't because they didn't have the skill to win it all, it was because they hadn't figured out the mental game to win it all as a top team. Its always easier if you are supposed to loose, the pressure is off, no one will rip into you as long as you play hard and leave it all out there...but when you are the favorite, you could nearly kill yourself, and people will still rip into you and blame you if you don't win. That's part of why I called this series to go 6 or 7 from the get go, I still think the Rangers win, but it will be tough, and they can beat the Devils, but again it will be 6 or 7, and they can win the cup, but again, it will be 6 or 7, and its all mental...this team is good enough to win, hell they are good enough to sweep just about any team in the NHL in 4 games, they just need to find that place in their minds, to give them that mental edge...and right now, they are learning that "on the job" and its the only way you can learn it. If they learn fast enough they win, if not, its on to next season where there will take the hard lessons of this year and apply them....and that is why no matter how far they make it, even if they win the cup, i will expect it to be better and "easier" next season, and the season after that, until these players are done and no longer with the team or past their primes.
Wildcard
Thu May 10 2012 10:15 am EST
Guys, what constitues a 5 min major. I thought when you drew blood like on the 4 minute penalty the person got 5. I also think the Rangers should work the puck down low on the PP and have people cutting to the net. Obviously playing the puck up high for slap shots from the d isn't working. 1St the Rangers don't have a dman who has a booming slap shot. 2nd Washington is really clogging up the front of the area and stopping many shots, 3rd Holtby seems to be very good at things in front of him. The Rangers haven't gotten him to scramble or get him to look at more things than what is in front of him. If the puck goes low and he has to face the puck or turn his head he doesn' t have as good of a view of the other players especially cutting from the weak side. I say play it low and have players cutting to the front of the goal and then whipping things in to the midlle for deflections or one timers. Try something different torts. Simple shots from the top are doing anything.
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 10:11 am EST
Haven't posted on here a while. Watched the first 2 periods of the game last night. Noticed the Rangers weren't trying and looked like they expected to be handed the win while they just watched the Caps play. Decided to check out The Wall this morning to see how much it has changed... yeah, still the same b*tching and bickering about the team that I remember from you guys LOL! I still think Rangers make it to the Stanley Cup finals though. I've already told my friends who are Devils fans that I can't wait to play them because the Rangers will have home ice advantage for all 7 games :)
rangerfan2000
Thu May 10 2012 10:08 am EST
VT. I know Hospo and myself were begging for another center who could take face offs. This is the second series were the other team is dominating and effecting the play because fo the faceoff.
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 10:06 am EST
Td, I don't think the rangers were in it the whole game. I think they were out of it until the last minute when they scored. Never did they seem like things were gonna go right for them. They looked ???? after the first goal.. It seemed like they would never score especially after the 4 minute power play. The last 5 they played with more energy and took chances.
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 10:00 am EST
After taking a xanax and getting some sleep last night I still back some of my statements. The Caps did play with more desperation. I don't think Hank lost the game. I think Torts has been very stubborn with personnal and his tactics, especially on the power play. I brought up nash partly as a dig to those who didn't think this team needed to add anything. It not that nash add a different style its that he gives the team another dimension. Now the Caps dont have to shut down one line. Same as what Hags brings. The line struggles without his speed. Well if Nash is here it changes the team dynamic. I also don't think the boys played poorly because they are tired, i just think Washington was more desperate, scored early and defended well. Was the Gaborik line tired the game before no they had jump. Washington is a good team and playing hard. They had the last change last night and they scored very quickly. Holtby is comfortable and it is just a tough series. I Still think if Torts would be such a power hungry bully this team could get to the Stanley Cup. He needs to play Kreider more and realize he will make mistakes but he gives positive things than bad. Hey, we got game 7 in the garden. I think Richards Cally and Hank come up huge. Time to think positive. Gotta give the boys support or they have no chance.
KIS
Thu May 10 2012 9:59 am EST
TDCHI/PA.RANGERSFAN - You, my dear sirs, have no comprehension of what the CLUELESS JACKASSES truly are all about!! :)...........OK, that being said, I think what the wall needs the most after last night is an uplifting visit from TOBIAS!!!!!!
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 9:54 am EST
pa - If you're going to write this team off after one game, which in the grand scheme of Ranger games over the course of the year wasn't even THAT BAD of a game. Yeah, they didn't play great. Yeah, they got out-worked...but literally up until the LAST SECOND of that game, the Rangers were still in it. If you're going to look at that game and say "Fuck it, this team sucks" and then stand by that statement, you should do the following things: Stop liking and/or following the Rangers and stop liking and/or following hockey. This has been a GREAT year for the Rangers. Even if they WERE eliminated last night, I would say the same thing. Would I be disappointed if they lose Saturday? Yes. Very disappointed. But to sit here and whine about how these guys 'aren't as good as their record' or are horrible...or are NOT fun to watch, then you clearly haven't been watching the past 15 years of Rangers hockey...because outside of the Cup run in 1994, THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS. And that includes all the Ranger teams I followed as kid BEFORE the 1994 cup run. I know some of those comments were out of frustration...maybe drunken frustration. But they sound downright retarded when you look back on the whole season and realize the Rangers chances of advance are STILL 50-50...and that's before you recognize their record in the Garden. So I stand by my statement: If you're going to malign the team now, you're acting like a clueless jackass. And don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. The rest of us don't need that sort of negativity...And on another note, LET'S GO RANGERS!!! WIN ONE FOR MELVILLE!! WICHITA IN SIX!! WICHITA IN SIX!!!
tdchi
Thu May 10 2012 9:51 am EST
VtRanger - Youy are right, I've just thrown in the towel on that one....It's an area that must be improved in the off-season, as it could or should have been before the deadline..But, spilt milk
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 9:49 am EST
One of the reasons this team can't score a damn goal is because they can't win a faceoff in the offensive zone. Read it and weep: Richards 5 of 16 (31%), Stepan 1 of 4 (25%), Boyle 2 of 4 (50%), Mitchell 2 of 5 (40%) and Hagelin 1 of 1 (100%). Overall: 11 of 30 (37%). Every powerplay starts with a lost faceoff and 25 seconds wasted. I know I harp on this, but it drives me f'n crazy.
VtRanger
Thu May 10 2012 9:45 am EST
RF4L - yeah, it could have been over in the way that you wouldn't have liked if the bringing in of Nash lead to a differnt style that has lead the Rangers to 7 wins so far.....Honestly, I think the Rangers are way more talented then the scores (or lack of) indicates...It's the style that Torts chooses to play and forces his team and players to play..
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 9:41 am EST
E/PJ - My points exactly. The Caps did play a good and desperate game...They were hard to beat last night..And both the Rangers and Caps (as well as the Devils, Coyotes, Kings) are good but flawed teams that fight and claw and find ways to win. But they both can't win....It's Special teams and Momentum (often related)..The Caps had both last night.......I LOVE what TORTS has done with this team in the BIG PICTURE but you guys are right about his in-game stategy and stubborness...which is as a big a reason for the loss as the players themselves....But, hopefully back to a better-tuned Ranger effort on Saturday...
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 9:39 am EST
Offensively challenged the Rangers certainly are: One 5 on 5 goal against the Caps over the past 144 minutes. That amounts to over 7 periods of hockey. This, however, is a carry-over from the regular season and precisely why Sather went hard after Rick Nash. I don't want to get into that debate again, but it's mnore than reasonable to believe that if the Rangers had someone of his ilk, this series would be over.
RF4L
Thu May 10 2012 9:36 am EST
Zebop - Exactly. You never know with traffic in front of the net..Sometimes the ass giveth (like last night) other time the ass taketh away (Boyle)........What the Rangers need are Low Shots From High Flying Boys with Traffic
Hospo
Thu May 10 2012 9:14 am EST
Don't feel bad Rexi....you can join the clueless-jackass club! Check with td..to see if you qualify.
pa.rangersfan
Thu May 10 2012 9:11 am EST
I'm not sure what the thought process was going into last nights game but if they don't change it for game 7 they might end up being spectators for the rest of the playoffs. Torts has his quirks behind the bench and is not in my opinion a great bench coach. It seems counter productive to have Krieder who was playing pretty well until he made some mistakes to be nailed to the bench when his over game was starting to come together. He went from the penthouse to the outhouse on one shift. Dale Hunter who I didn't like as a player is looking like a very smart coach and has in my opinion done a better job this series than Torts even when he doesn't have the last change. He gave Ward plenty of ice time after his penalty in game 5 that gave the Rangers the chane they needed to get back in the series. I don't think Torts is the type of coach who would do that and this might be part of the problem the Rangers are having.
wally5460
Thu May 10 2012 9:06 am EST
Didn't watch more than 2 minutes of the game last night. Didn't want the aggravation. Thought I'd check the wall for a recap. Whew! I feel SO MUCH WORSE NOW.
Rexi29
Thu May 10 2012 8:31 am EST
... Like how they scored their only goal last night. Went off the ass of either the Cap or Ranger in front (I thought it hit the Cap player first, but whatever ...) but at least a white sweater was in front of Holtby. You don't get an uglier goal than that, but I'll take ugly goals eight days a week if it means advancing.
Zebop
Thu May 10 2012 8:25 am EST
Play like they played in Game 5 (and certainly unlike they played last night). Shoot the puck from everywhere, get it in front of Holtby and get guys there for junky goals. It's the only way the Rangers are going to score, I think. The Caps otherwise are too big defensively, block plenty of shots and keep everything to the outside. And shoot the damn puck on the power play! I agree with tdchi -- way too fine with the man advantage. As Torts said, "It sucks!"
Zebop
Thu May 10 2012 8:13 am EST
BTW...I can't believe some of you are STILL whining about NASH. What would Nash do for us? Tell me. Shoot wide? Shoot at Holtby's chest? Play 25 minutes a game with Gaborik and Richards, so all three could have Jello for legs? I don't even think Nash would help this powerplay with the way it's aligned. What is Nash going to do for it cycling down low with the rest of these guys?
tdchi
Thu May 10 2012 8:11 am EST
Zebop - You're partly right. I can pick out the Rangers who look tired: Callahan, Gaborik, Richards, Girardi, Staal, McDonagh, and Del Zotto. They're the Rangers that are/have skated 22-plus minutes a night since the this round began. All seven of those guys should be --as someone said --placed in a hyperbaric chamber for the next two days. You can't shorten your bench to seven guys in the playoffs, and that's what Torts has done. Certainly, Dubinsky's absence doesn't help this. But still, there's no reason for him to do that.
tdchi
Thu May 10 2012 8:03 am EST
To all you who wrote disparaging comments about this team, you should really adopt my policy of sobering up and/or waiting until morning to vent your frustration. Some of you sound like real clueless jackasses...YORK/Hospo - Two of the best posts I've read this morning, and some of the only one that make any sense. YES...a loss like that stings. I was glad they got a puck freeze with a second left so I didn't need to see the Caps celebrate...but NO...this season isn't over. In fact, the Rangers are headed back to the Garden where they've been pretty indomitable this season...now my notes...and this will reiterate some of what YORK said...Tortorella is tossing the towel in on this one with his coaching. It's tough to pin a game solely on a coach, but if there ever was an instance where one lost the game himself it was last night. All you've got to do is look at how the minutes were pursed out and look at the results he got from those players...benching KREIDER through the first two periods so he could double-shift the first two lines was ridiculous. And the fact that almost HALF of MITCHELL'S time came on the PP was simply laughable...On the STRALMAN penalty...great call by the refs, awful call by Stralman. Back check, but let CHIMERA take the goddamn shot! It's the first two minutes of the first period and you're chasing a guy who is cutting to the post. Let him shot and clear the rebound...ON THE POWERPLAY - Like I said before the game, they look almost identical to the Bruins on the man-advantage, and that's NOT a complement. Funny, because the PP on a micro level shows the EXACT problem these Rangers are having as a whole...they're trying to get too fancy. They're forgetting how they scored goals in the past. Let's do away with this 'four, five, six pass and then shoot' play. YOU DON'T NEED SIX PASSES TO BEAT HOLTBY. ONE SHOT. ONE REBOUND. ONE GUY SWATTING AT IT. Very simple hockey...The Rangers are simply playing a game now they didn't play and never could play during the regular season...too much passing, not enough shooting. HOLTBY got the first star of that game, but I really don't know why. Nothing shot on him was that tough...Even when the Rangers do get a one-two-three passing drive going, they telegraph the whole goddamn thing, so by the time the third man has the puck(I remember one instance with GIRADRI breaking low), Holtby knows EXACTLY where he's going and can position himself without ANY fear that the receiver of the third pass will be able to slide the puck over. One pass, One shot, third man gets the rebound. THIS IS FUNDEMENTAL HOCKEY, and I can't for the life of me figure out why Tortorella isn't playing it any more.
tdchi
Thu May 10 2012 6:49 am EST
Are the Rangers tired? (perhaps) Is Washington that good? (no) Was it just a case of a desperate team playing as such and the Rangers not quite feeling it? I'm just searching for reasons why the Rangers would produce an effort like that w/ a chance to close out a series and get some much needed rest. One other question -- Will Strallman keep his streak alive in Game 7 by taking another tripping penalty on his first shift? Like my 7-year-old son said this morning when I told him Washington won -- "So Saturday is the moment of truth." Unfortunately, yes.
Zebop
Thu May 10 2012 6:48 am EST
I don't know about anyone else, but, I am missing the hell out of Dubinsky. We are not the same team with him out of the lineup. Also, PLAY KREIDER MORE DB!!!
DCIGolfer
Thu May 10 2012 6:31 am EST
The Whale dropped their Game 5 last night in spectaculat fashion - a 4-0 ass kicking of epic proportions. It was horrible. Simply horrible. There was no bright spot...no redeeming qualities. They played terrible. They needed a win...they are heading back to Norfolk for Game 6 (and possibly 7) trailing 3-2 in the series. It would take a miracle to win 2 down there. Norfolk is now playing like a team that won 29 straight games... It's pretty much over, I think.
Dineen11
Thu May 10 2012 5:58 am EST
that should say a few things, not teams.
York18
Thu May 10 2012 5:57 am EST
What's going wrong? Well it's a few teams, we are playing a team that is using the exact same system that got us our record this season, but they have a bit more natural talent out there. We are giving up the early lead, which is exactly how we beat teams all year getting and early lead; sitting back and watching the other team start to play desperate; all while beating them with the body. The biggest thing we are struggling with in the post season IMO, bench management; something torts did great all year is now something he is now struggling with; he isn't playing people at the right times, or right situations. He is over playing players especially considering how hard this series has been and more importantly how many over times we have had. This team isn't as talented as our record would suggest, but it certainly isn't as bad as they have been playing and I'm sorry but the PP is all torts' fault if you can score 5 on 5 you should be able to net one on the PP. he makes no adjustments at all. I was very impressed with him in the regular season and rather disappointed in the playoffs. That regular season record may be the only thing that saves us in this series by giving us home ice in game 7.
York18
Thu May 10 2012 3:21 am EST
But Nick, sure it would be nice to be a team that easily could correct a misttake and come back against a team that backs down extremely deep with 5 guys in the lap of their goalie. That would be great. But you won't see many teams in this league post-2005. Maybe a team that have tanked for 6-7 years can get a window of like a year or two when they can be that great, but that's about as often as we will see them. In absense of that, when playing a team like Washington, you just have to find a way to not give them a lead early on. Then they are forced to move up ice -- and you can exploit their defense.
Ola
Thu May 10 2012 3:16 am EST
All the doom and gloom and we are not better then this and all that, all I can say that we have lost 3 games to Washington and in ALL those 3 games we have given Was an early lead, and in the first two, of horrible misstakes on top of that. Look, we will not play this team well if we give them an early lead. If we don't, I am sure we would look great. They back down, and aren't even that great on that. But since they NEVER are forced to try to get something going against us, they are also NEVER forced to expose themselves. But no-no, we give them the lead every time we get a chance to pull away. ANNOYING to say the least.
Ola
Thu May 10 2012 12:55 am EST
Thank you TS-28! Was wondering. I really should go to bed like a normal person. We await Saturday night!
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 12:48 am EST
entire Rangers team should sleep in a hyperbaric chamber over the next two nights
TradeStar28
Thu May 10 2012 12:45 am EST
Mat Zuccarello-Aasen
TradeStar28
Thu May 10 2012 12:30 am EST
Jake, E: Agree all the way. A tough hard-working club for sure; opportunistic offense most nights (11th in scoring isn't terrible) but we so desperately need a guy or two who can make a threat out of nothing. It could be Kreider fairly soon if the jackass doesn't try to make his a penalty-killing shot-blocker. But K and an addition next year of some offensive threat and we have a real shot. For a couple of years.
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 12:27 am EST
That MZA means MDZ in the salary post below. And how do we get 'MZA' from Mats Zuccarello anyway ???
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 12:25 am EST
NYR scored 226 goals this year; Caps 222. Yes Ovie and Backstrom are more skilled than anyone we have including Gabby by quite a bit. But still. Any offensive edge they have is game-to-game. And mostly the PP of course. They pop one every contest it seems. Apart from the Game Five PP miracle, we both suck and blow, as Bart Simpson once said.
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 12:21 am EST
This is not about desire at all.. This is just being honest with ourselves... Listen, i am proud what this has done so far, but we are not, nor were we ever as good as our record.. This team has many flaws, like most teams do.. I get that... Our PP sucks, its downright brutal, nd we all knew sooner or later it would come back to haunt us, so far it hasnt happen, but if we keep living on the edge it will come back to burn us.... These 2 teams we have played so far was not a good match up for us... THis is not about heart or desire, this is about our lack of top end skill and our awful PP....WE could def win Sat night, not saying we cant, but please just be honest here, this team has played well ove rits head all year long.. Without Hank, we are a draft lottery, or close to it... Im very proud of this team, I am, but in my opinion Sather dropped the ball not added scoring depth to this team, Im not talking about Nash, but we needed to do something. The good thing is that any team left in this tournament can win, so we have that on our side....lets see how it plays out, but this has nothing to do with heart... It has everythign to do with reality, that this team has been exposed for what it really is
jake
Thu May 10 2012 12:21 am EST
Don't flame me for looking way ahead, but ... Feds ($1.4), Prust (800K), Mitchell (650), Eminger (800) and Biron (800) are UFAs this summer. Dubi makes $3.75 next year then $4.65 the two years after that. No. 17 ain't going nowhere except down the depth chart (I hope). RFAs after this year are Zucc (850), MZA (875), Stralman (900) and Bickel (600). RFAs after 12-13 are Stepan (875), Hagelin (688), AA (188), McD (875) and Sauer (1.25M). Girardi, Cally, Rupp, Gabby, Boyle and Hank are UFAs after 13-14. Two-year window as I see it. So keep teaching a big fast talented kid a 'lesson' this year, Torts, and play grinders when behind late in games. Heck, we'll win eventually, right? I think someone in the Ranger org said that in 1941.
Nick
Thu May 10 2012 12:10 am EST
HOSPO: but lets also not forget that they are still finding ways to win games. And with Lundqvist and that defense it doesn't take much offense to eek a W. I'm not dismissing the issue but honestly, I think they have as good a chance as anyone to win game-7. And then can they beat the Devils? Who knows? Have to find a way to get around Washington first. Washington is just playing incredible right now. They are playing like the NYR with the exception that they have a prolific offense. They can kill you quick and suddenly. Yet, the NYR are going into a game-7 with them. If we beat them it won't be pretty but that is the NYR MO. One thing is certain going into next season: this team does not generate enough offense. Whether by expecting someone like Kreider to become a 30-goal scorer as soon as next season (something I doubt but wouldn't rule out) this team must upgrade its scoring ability. I contend that if the NYR had the ability to score, this team is a surefire Stanley Cup contender. Its defense is outrageous. With the return of Staal playing like himself, the emergence of McD, the maturation of Girardi, MDZ becoming a 2-way threat (40-points this season,) and of course the impending arrival of blue-chip prospect Erixon, back-dropped by the stingy Lundqvist this team is poised to be one of the best (if not the best) defense in the NHL for several years. But the scoring up front is not adequate. They need another game breaker. A LW who can pot goals. Maybe it is a case of a trade. I don't know. Maybe Semin or Parise although that is likely out of the NYR price range or desire. But the NYR are an ugly hockey team and they limp along winning with what they have. Will it catch up with them? It looks like it has caught up with them but you just never know… I do love what this team is becoming. Good days are here and better days are coming. But I have belief that this team can win a game 7 and why not? They never panic, they play from behind and Washington has played catchup during this series.
E
Wed May 9 2012 11:44 pm EST
one of the interesting stats we keep bringing up is the fact that Stu bickel plays 6 minutes or less a night. obviously this puts the other 5 dmen's ice time at way too many minutes. same goes with the forwards......the ice time distribution is way off and that puts too much emphasis on the guys who are playing too much....This has gone on for months. Torts did not change the lineups much at all during the entire year. Just like how the plan was to use biron more duing the regular season so hank is rested come primetime, the same needed to be down with the forwards. its like in horse racing, Torts whipped these horses right out of the opening gate.....and now the season is right at the top of the stretch and the Rangers horse is tired and beaten....and almost breaking down......ofcourse the loss of dubi, MZA and sauer hurts though....that is the depth we needed.....we do have a well rested john scott though in the stable.......put that guy in a glue factory
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 11:37 pm EST
Hospo...True but let's also give some credit to the Caps here....They did just knock off the Bruins in a series where the games were close....Teams like LA and Phoenix are playing out of their minds and nobody expected it...It really is a new season....With Hank and our D we should be able to hang with anyone....Can't recall when a regular season meant less...
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 11:35 pm EST
Not to bury the boys, but what are the prospects for acquiring or signing a top 6 forward this summer (so Torts can play him 5 minutes a game)? Will anyone take Dubi? Who's falling off the salary cap roll?
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 11:23 pm EST
TRADE - Hope you are right about that score...But, seriously guys, though the Rangers can beat the Caps and then the Devils, lets remember that since March 2nd, with little done at the Deadline, the Rangers have been nothing but a .500 team at 17-16...basically, this team has to win ugly and barely...simple as that
Hospo
Wed May 9 2012 11:16 pm EST
RF...Yes I did get a kick out of the reporter busting Torts a little...The guy treats them like animals....No class at all....Hunter makes Torts look like a spoiled rotten 6 year old....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 11:12 pm EST
Rangers win by the score of 3-1 on saturday. Kreider with the empty netter to seal the deal.
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 11:09 pm EST
Bob- Rangers try to play a mistake free hockey game....That is how they usually end up on the losing side of the scoreboard.....All of the pucks are dumped down low behind the net and they try to cycle out for the pass in front....Whenever i see 3 rangers behind the net , i get pissed to high heaven. Ultimately though, we can win Saturday. I would say its about 60/40. We have won alot of big game 7's at MSG.
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 11:09 pm EST
BOB - Totally agree...Hell, I sounded like Harvey Keitel in Bad Lieutenent watching these bastards tonight! No traffic in front of Holtby for more then a second...No rebounds....And when they do it for some odd reason, it works...Plain and simple, we just dont have players that like doing it...or are good at....What I would give for a LUCIC!!! And Bingo on the D-men holding it, but it's mostly DZ...Enough with the measured play throw a little frenzy and mess at the Caps..It will hurt them just like it hurts us...Obviously, the Caps are a good and disciplined team. but the Rangers can be their own worst enemy...
Hospo
Wed May 9 2012 11:03 pm EST
It does crack me up HOSPO---we play nearly 2 complete series so far where the opponents plant themselves in our crease, while our forwards drive-by the crease and our d-men seem to wait for our players to clear out of the crease before they shoot the puck. It is infuriating.
Bob
Wed May 9 2012 11:00 pm EST
agreed Mr. Hospo.....the only thing we can do as fans is wait until Saturday night! Oh...and bitch from now until then too.
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 10:54 pm EST
ALso want to say that I believe and agree with the frustration on the Wall with tonights game...Wepass by the net instead of staying there,,,...We have little depth...the PP sucks and looks like it has never been practiced....guys like Gabby, Richarss and Callyy (tonight) have bad games....Torts stubborn style sometimes works in the POs, soetimes it doesnt and he needs to deviate (but NONE of the Coaches do).....BUt, this is the Rangers..and with qall these imperfections, they are jus as good as any team remaining in the hunt for the Cup...or even were at the beginning of this round....they can beat anybody...Thay can lose to anybody.....and I think anybody they play, will go to 7 games....I just want another 7th game after Saturday,,
Hospo
Wed May 9 2012 10:49 pm EST
The Caps are good; yes. Tough series and all that, ups and downs. But what burns my ass is Torts playing for 1-0 and running stone hands out there because they are supposedly better defensively. His use of K is inexcusable; his lines have buried Cally and Stepan in hopeless conditions. Bad enough you have to beat the opponent but the coach too?
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 10:42 pm EST
Unbelivable that we have arm chair fans on here questioning the Rangers passion and heart after what they have done over the past 95 games...Blows my mind.....Yes, they did not play a good game but, OTOH, the Capitals did play a good and DESPERATE game...They were the better team and made the Rangers look a little passionless..a little slow...made them look worse....This series should be going 7 games...there is no difference betwen the teams, other then spurts and special teams....The Rangers special teams blow. make the Caps ST seem bettr and serve the dua purpose of dragging the Rangers down and lifting the Caps.....Maybe the mind set of having one more game left in the Garden did enter the picture a litte(as with the Caps winning or going hoime) ..These two teams are so close that little things can make differences like that......Can't argue with the comments about the Rangers not going to the net enough....but when do they? This is not a srong or nasty team and the depth of this team ihas been and is seriaoly lacking yet they they still have a good chance to make the Eastern Finals....I know some of the Wall now seems to want the Rangers to lose becasue they would have no chance against the Devils, but I wouldn't mind a few more weeks of aggravating imperfect hoceky if they have it in them to play a good game on Saturday...They will need to, becasue the Caps will play a good game...we'll see.
Hospo
Wed May 9 2012 10:37 pm EST
RF, yes this team may have over achieved this year but does that mean the fans should be content with what is happening. does anybody think that we should be losing to the Caps. we are supposed to have the better goalie. our defense is supposed to be better. we supposedly have 3 of the fastest players in the league yet the Rangers are getting beat to the puck. the strength of this team is supposed to be the depth and 2nd, 3rd and 4th lines. Still washington groups has been better. If this team would have lost to boston maybe the devils or a western team it would be understandable. This team has struggled with both the 8th and 7th seeded team. For a while it looked like washington wasn't even going to get into the playoffs. they are now playing Ranger style hockey and winning. Ranger fans can and should be very pissed and upset
KIS
Wed May 9 2012 10:35 pm EST
RF4L---Of course, you are correct about our expectations 9 months ago. However, it is also reasonable to raise the expectations when the season progresses the way this one did. Going into the playoffs as the top seed in the east, I would have been happy with winning 2 series. I figured that the conference finals would be against Pittsburgh, and thast I could not complain if we went out ot them based on the talent levels of the 2 teams. The way this has broken, it does not seem that we should go out, or have such a difficult time with the 8th and 7th seeds. We went through an entire season learning that this club is resilient and outworked the opponents most of the time. Now we get to the playoffs, and they cannot bring themselves to put 2 solid efforts in a row together? It just doesn't make sense and is disappointing. has the franchise made progress? Of course. But you just don't get this far too many times, and need to take advantage of the opportunities. If they go out on Saturday, they will get a huge, well deserved roar from the crowd and from all of us. They will also regret it, especially thise who never get a chane to get so close again.
Bob
Wed May 9 2012 10:32 pm EST
KIS....enuff with the Nash nonsense! honestly! who wouldnt want rick nash right about now.....This rangers team has the ingredients to win against the Caps....Will they do it? only the lord knows
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 10:31 pm EST
wow fred, i prolly seen you at the carvel a few times during the dog days of summer.....hopefully we do not get a cookie puss right to our faces on saturday night
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 10:31 pm EST
RF that is what im saying. the caps are playing the Rangers style but have guys to transition and take off and create chances. the rangers don't know what the hell to do. they don't have creative players and he is holding back his team speed. torts is fucking up
KIS
Wed May 9 2012 10:28 pm EST
How many would like to have Nash now. It would give another scorer. I alsothink the Rangers need another center a true 2nd line center. I don't think stepan can do it. Not enough speed not enough skill and not strong enough. he his good at all of them but doesn't excel in any of those aspects to be a 2nd line center on a cup winning team. this team just isn't there yet. what is so annoying is its is people like chimera and aucoin,brouwer,hendricks and ward that are out playing our 2nd 3rd and 4th liners. they are having more of an affect on the game.
KIS
Wed May 9 2012 10:28 pm EST
KIS: OMG, the Rangers are doing in the POs precisely what they've done all season long. The difference is 1) every team works their collective butts off in the POs (I mean, tell me when you last saw the Washington Capitals blocking 20+ shots a game) and 2) the Caps are at least as skilled, if not moreso, overall than the Rangers. What are you all expecting anyways???????
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 10:25 pm EST
Sooooooooo, all that said, I totally get the frustration being shown on here. It's part of being a passionate fan and more importantly, a passionate Ranger fan. It's ingrained, after decades of disappointment, save for one single year, to expect the worse. And believe it or not, I do. What I am trying to keep sight of here, however, is that this team overachieved in the regular season and IMO, to get to game 7 in round 2 of the POs continues that trend.
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 10:22 pm EST
FM, a lot of hostility but a lot of truth. RF what is the color of the sky in your world. this team is not doing what it has this season. torts is so afraid to give up a goal that he doesn't give the team a chance to score. the players are afraid to make a mistake. His combinations for tonight were horrible. Now what makes it worse is the fact that the Caps are playing so defensively as well the Rangers aren't getting opportunities because the Caps aren't making a ton of mistakes. It is almost like the perfect storm against the rangers
KIS
Wed May 9 2012 10:21 pm EST
Oh, and I guess on Monday the Caps played with no desire, didn't come to win, their coach was horrible, didn't play a sustained effort, were passive, showed no killer instinct, showed that they flat out suck, etc, etc, etc. LOLOLOLOL....
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 10:20 pm EST
Not sure what expect for game 7. I am an eternal optimist, but it seems like the team has hit the wall. Another 7 game series, questionable coaching, horrible PP and yet we are one win away from the conference finals. I would have ben ecstatic with that idea at the beginning of the year, but to get close and not be able to finish is worse. I have not criticized Torts all year, but he has not handled this team properly in this series. I have no idea what his lines will be for game 7. If we win, we will have a one day turnaround against a team that has had 6 days of rest. If we lose, we hand the Devils a tired team and an easy path to the Stanley Cup Finals. The thought of that makes me want to jump off my roof! I'm looking for some reasons to believe we can win game 7 and get to the finals. Any takers?
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 10:16 pm EST
RF.., you got me; can't hang with that insight. Out.............!
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 10:13 pm EST
pa.ranger: Like I said: Tortorella SUCKS! Kreider SUCKS! Callahan SUCKS! Staal SUCKS! MSG SUCKS! Lundqvist SUCKS! The Rangers rebuilding philsophy SUCKS! My job SUCKS! Taxes SUCKS! Soup SUCKS! Every-damn-thing SUCKS!!!"
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 10:12 pm EST
PJ: And what was that reporter's point, save for being a complete asshole who knows dick about hockey and only wants to provoke the coach. Has that punkass reporter bothere to do his research to see that more often than not, Tortorella's TO timing has worked? I'm guessing no; instead, he'd rather try to stir the pot. No wonder Tortorella ends his pressers as quickly as possible. Trust that phucking jerk is NOT a Ranger beat reporter....
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 10:09 pm EST
TradeStar28 much appreciated and I hope you're right.....Oceanside....my wife is from Oceanside (Long Island) and I worked in the Oceanside Carvel for 9 years....
MelvilleFred
Wed May 9 2012 10:08 pm EST
RF.., YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! It's one thing to lose when the Club plays like a Team wanting to get to the ECF. Can you honestly post that you were pleased with the effort from top to bottom!? And don't give me the hypothetical non-sense. If it snows in July does that mean its fucking winter?
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 10:08 pm EST
And for sure, the Rangers did not play well. They also sucked in game 4. And let's not forget that this series would be over, save for the last 7 seconds Monday night. The Capitals are a more skilled team overall and they should be (1/2 dozen top 6 picks in the lineup). These are 2 evenly matched teams....
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 10:06 pm EST
Had to love the reporter in the postgame pointing out to Torts that the Caps scored shortly after he called the timeout.....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 10:00 pm EST
And Rhet, dunno if that proclamation about 7 game series is accurate, but what so many seem to be forgetting is that 9 months ago, most of us were indicating we'd be content with a 6th in the east finish for this team. They finished first in the east, 2nd overall in the entire league and did so by over-achieving. How wonderful. But we are forgetting about the many close-fought games to get there, a result of their overall skill problems. That liimitation is, IMO, why we're seeing in the POs them needing 7 games to beat the Sens and why this series is going to game 7. If/when they win, there's zero reason to believe things will change against the Devils. Bottom line is that if things had unfolded like most of us were anticipating, these harsh sometimes over the top posts wouldn't be happening. Oh, the irony!!
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 9:59 pm EST
The caps played with more desire. How do you lose so many opportunities for icing because you get beat to the puck. The Rangers weren't desperate enough. also, Fonzi behind the bench is a stubborn jackass. Like York calls him Keenan light. He on'y benches young kids or people he can bully.Why not try to give Kreider some confidence and let him fly. How do you play AA so much he has sucked and does not get involved. Prust and Fedatenko seem to be out there every other shift. Guess what torts, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SCORE!!!! Next game get kreider more time. get rupp some more time and tell him to push his way in front of the goal.. There needs to be bodies in front of Holtby not always on the side. Shoot at the kids feet and stick side. He catxhes everything and the Caps get to re-group. this lost akes me sick. This was not Hanks fault.
KIS
Wed May 9 2012 9:53 pm EST
Rhet....You may be right but right now we have a game 7 coming up at home....Didn't like this game but after game 5 you can also say we never give up either...Like I said normal to vent but to quit on them? ...Not a chance....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 9:52 pm EST
RF4L----you are funny. I just thought they never ramped up the necessary effort after the early PPG against. They were beaten to the puck and outworked for it most of the night, and did not make the effort to get to the net until they had 6 guys on the ice. They played a lot better in game 5. I guess I expected a better game from most of them, but especially from any forward not named Richards/Gabby/Hagelin. Unfortunately, the effort was not there. Henrik deserves better effort and support.
Bob
Wed May 9 2012 9:52 pm EST
Hey Melville, in case i am not around saturday, happy 60th birthday.....I hope you have a tremendous day and an even better decade! from OceansideDavid
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 9:52 pm EST
This team just doesn't score enough goals period. They are a team full of muckers and grinders that refuse to grind around the net. I don't understand it.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 9 2012 9:51 pm EST
Like I said..(2X)
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 9:50 pm EST
Nickk.., well said, and might I add; If you indeed are privileged enough to play this deep into a PO, you play EVERY tilt like it's your last!
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 9:50 pm EST
Ferocious...we're obviously all disapointed but I think you need to become a Capitals fan...more deserving my ass.....winning a 3 OT game tying game 5 with 6.6 to go and winning in OT...screw you.....please do me a favor and don't root for us.
MelvilleFred
Wed May 9 2012 9:49 pm EST
Rhet: Sorry - the last bowl of soup I had was chock full of sodium and I nearly had a stroke. Kinda like lots of wallsters, I think!!! ;^)
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 9:48 pm EST
PJ... We will never, ever, ever win a cup by playing four consecutive game 7's... this team has NO killer instinct and it's something to be truly concerned about.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 9:47 pm EST
Top, MC, RF4L: Not the point! Yeah we were supposed to suck and didn't but seeing a Cup run sabotaged by a stubborn arrogant jackass coach makes a person mad!
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 9:47 pm EST
stevie.., 10/4 but the Knicks played hard tonite. They have plenty of excuses to lean on not to mention Le-choke was superhuman again. The Rangers have NO excuse for this result.
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 9:47 pm EST
Wow!...play with passion, battle hard, play like you give a damn and you score a goal! Imagine that! Hopefully it's how we'll play from the opening faceoff next game. I have no idea why Kreider is not playing more but if anyone here thinks that Tortorella is trying to teach a lesson at the wrong time or just being pigheaded or stupid, I think that is a foolish notion. My guess is that the coaches are disecting his game via game tape and seeing that his defensive zone coverage is not good, he's not doing something or some thingS right and they think that it is going to catch up to him big time. Yeas, his speed is awesome and he creates havoc on the forecheck but if that was the only factor, don't you think a coach would go all in....he's trying to win, after all. That being said, when the Rangers were playing as shitty as they were tonight, they need to throw game plans and schemes and teories out the window and go with youth, speed and passion and just let 'er rip. And it seems that Kreider did get more time in the 3rd.
JFC31
Wed May 9 2012 9:47 pm EST
Oh....and the Whale lost tonight, too...that's because McIlrath SUCKS! Thomas SUCKS! Bourque SUCKS! Erixon SUCKS! Miller SUCKS! God, I hate the Rangers!!!
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 9:46 pm EST
Best of 1
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 9 2012 9:46 pm EST
Canucks, Blues, Preds, Bruins and Pens all out so the seeding really hasn't meant a damn thing....I am as upset as anyone but playing one game at home for a trip to the Conference final I will take anyday....We would all have been thrilled with this situation when their was 10 seconds left in game 5....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 9:44 pm EST
RF4L.... There you go disparaging Soup again... that really burns my bacon.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 9:44 pm EST
pa didn't watch their game......the NYR were not blown out, but they were fairly flat, but still got it to be a 1 goal game.....as former Captain Leetch just said, it will be about special teams on Saturday...the PP can't pp the bed again.......
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 9:44 pm EST
Like I said....
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 9:42 pm EST
And while I'm at it: Tortorella SUCKS! Kreider SUCKS! Callahan SUCKS! Staal SUCKS! MSG SUCKS! Lundqvist SUCKS! The Rangers rebuilding philsophy SUCKS! My job SUCKS! Taxes SUCKS! Soup SUCKS! Every-damn-thing SUCKS!!!
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 9:42 pm EST
Why, why, why... can't this team play a sustained effort for more than a couple of games in a row? ...it's bizarre, we've had this trouble all year... that and the fact that we make young goalies look like world beaters against us.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 9:40 pm EST
Not for nuttin' stevie.., but the Knicks showed a whole lot more fuckin' heart tonite than the Rangers did.
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 9:40 pm EST
Bad enough not having enough team skill. Having your own coach bury it is beyond frustrating. You think if the Caps were two down with two to go we wouldn't see O, Backstrom, Semin and Green? Well, not if the Genius was their coach.
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 9:40 pm EST
LOLOLOLOL...such negativity...LOLOLOLOL. Bet if we backtrack to October/September/etc none of you would predict you'd be posting the crap you're posting right now. Actually, some of you weren't even posting back then! LOLOLOL....
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 9:39 pm EST
Alot of folks just not getting it. The foot was on the the throat; you don't shit the bed!
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 9:38 pm EST
Knicks out, maybe jimmyboy will go Saturday.......hope he stays home........unless he's good luck.......
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 9:38 pm EST
while I am upset we lost, I would rather be playing game 7 at HOME than playing golf with Crosby, Malkin, Chara and others....cmon people its not the end of the world!
Topovski
Wed May 9 2012 9:36 pm EST
Ferocious.., I thought you were dismissed by that hockey maven MC?
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 9:36 pm EST
i agree- lay this one on torts. wtf, first time i've ever seen him stay with the same lines! richards and gabby could get nothing going at all. torts favorites are exhausted, 4th line did more than the first line, and hit some people.and yes, maybe the fastest player on both teams- butt pinned to the bench !! nice....
doct
Wed May 9 2012 9:34 pm EST
It's over. Move on. If they get lucky again in game 7, the Devils just get luckier. I'd rather bow out now. The Caps are a much more worthy opponent of the Devils than we are. Clinging on for life , 7 game series, 1-goal games all the way through against the 7th and 8th seed? Scorers not scoring...PP a disgrace...Hank with the left hand of a reluctant third grader....Come on.
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 9:34 pm EST
Does anyone hve Tortorella's email?
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 9 2012 9:34 pm EST
Yup, there are 5 teams out of 30 still playing right now, we must really suck! Ferocious, bye bye, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
MC
Wed May 9 2012 9:32 pm EST
Torts worships the grinder. Fine. You gotta have them. But you can't bury talent because you're afraid of mistakes. Even if our many Prusts and Feds and Mitchells and fuckall manage to create chances, THEY CAN'T FINISH. Pucks roll off sticks ... smack off blades on a setup ... shots tattoo the goalie's crest. And talent creates more chances anyway. Your grinders you need to establish a holding pattern. Your better guys you need to score. And six minutes of ice for a guy who can is a damned fool decision. Yeah K isn't an all- star yet but come on, Torts. Christ I hate that smarmy little fuck.
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 9:31 pm EST
I was thrilled when Torts was named Coach. If this Club bows out Saturday nite, blow the fucking thing up with this "Coach" having the dynamite up his ass to start the party! I'll even drive to NYC to light the fuse.
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 9:30 pm EST
Why are they interviewing all these Caps players on the MSG postgame? Don't want to see that crap....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 9:29 pm EST
Kreider 6:06 of ice time. On a team that cannot score. Unbelievable.
Bob
Wed May 9 2012 9:28 pm EST
still on the bandwagon, not picking on the coach.....see what happens in the 7th.......still 9 wins to go,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 9:28 pm EST
Way too passive of a game on all accounts - by the players and the coaches. We played like we have another game and it cost us. They didn't crash the net or try to force any position down low. The moment they did, they scored. Need that type of mentality from the drop of the puck. MSG will be ready. LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!
Z
Wed May 9 2012 9:27 pm EST
What a pathetic performance and effort. This team is developing thre right way but they just don't have the killer instinct yet. The entire game I'm screaming and my poor wife and 4 month old had to endure. Can someone tell me what the fuck torts is thinking? BOYLE IS NOT A 2ND LINE CENTER!!!!!!!! Playing out position on the 3rd line. And Stepan between a 4th liner in Prust and a checking winger???? WTF!!! That should lead to some creative offense. Kreider with less than 4 minutes is inexcusable!!! Mitchell on the second PP unit over kreider-WTF?!?! And like someone else said Torts changes his lines faster than he stays at a press conference And the fuckin guy waits until the 3 minute mark of the 3rd period that it's not working? As poor as the effort by the team was tonight, and it was, the coaching was off the charts bad. That's right Torts, let's just play hawkee
NCRanger
Wed May 9 2012 9:27 pm EST
Was there ever a doubt that this would go to a game 7! Really poor effort on the Rangers part....well Saturday is my 60th Birthday it will either be great or I may never post agian because I've had a heart attack!!
MelvilleFred
Wed May 9 2012 9:24 pm EST
Can come here and vent all you want about this game and I certainly have....Just tears you up when they lose like this....However, if you aren't watching and cheering wildly Saturday night don't try to pass yourself off as a fan...Give me a break....Game 7 coming up...Have to get up for it....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 9:23 pm EST
I know the Rangers were planning on keeping MZA out until the next round, but there is no tomorrow... if he can play, he should... This team has NO SCORING (shhhh, a well kept secret).
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 9:21 pm EST
How do you not switch up the lines when you are not scoring and you keep Kreider on the bench and play the shit out of Prust and Mitchell when neither can score. So f'in pissed off that this team was not ready to play. Without a lucky break in game 5 we lose this series tonight.
Steve443c10
Wed May 9 2012 9:20 pm EST
TRADE... Come game time on Saturday, I'll be fully committed... but until that time... I'm gonna bitch like there's no tomorrow... because there isn't :)
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 9:20 pm EST
Kreider late in the game playing very physical....Knocked Green around and was pushing in a scrum....Talent so obvious he has to see the ice more...
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 9:20 pm EST
been a fan for 53 yrs FEROCIOUSMONK94 no truer words ever spoken!!!!
littleman09
Wed May 9 2012 9:19 pm EST
Ferocious..Holy Shit! You just nailed it 110%! I was trying to come up with the words but couldn't clear my head enough. A fucking disgrace from "Coach" to "Captain."
pa.rangersfan
Wed May 9 2012 9:19 pm EST
Came looking for a dumb reaction to the game. Was not disappointed.
ScMePlz
Wed May 9 2012 9:18 pm EST
That was weird... my two posts merged together... anyway... I was bitching about Kreider's lack of ice time... This team can't win when it has only one line that scores... it give the Caps only one line to focus on... If Kreider is on one of the top two lines, at least they'll be chasing him around most of the night... it makes us dangerous(maybe he didn't watch the Sens series?) ....but with him only playing 6:06 of ice time.... Torts is giving the Caps this series gift wrapped.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 9:18 pm EST
There's no momentum in hockey, or very little. If thee was all series would be over in four or five. I mean did we take any mo from games 3 or 5? Or the Caps from 2 or 4? If Torts would play to win instead of whatever the fuck he is doing, that would be good. Hunter's not much different but what can you say about Torts' ice time decisions? On a talent starved team he nails Kreider to the bench ... and plays Mitchell on the PP.
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 9:14 pm EST
How did McDonagh have a bad first period? He tried to clear the puck and it took a weird bounce? I don't get the NBC announcers view of reality. But that ain't going to happen with 6:06 of ice time... A total Joke.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 9:14 pm EST
I won't be watching game 7..I will be rooting for a deserved loss from afar. I've felt thins team was fool's gold all season long and damned if they haven't proven it. Tonight they wiped away any prode that had been gained in the previous game, or the previous series. This team flat out sucks, and I don't know who could deny that. There has never been a moment during these playoffs when it felt like the NYR were the better team on the ice. Maybe at times the scrappier, or the more desperate. But they're not desperate enough to overcome their many, many flaws. There's a lot not to like about this team, and a lot I will NOT miss watching when this season is over after game 7.
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 9:12 pm EST
evets: Good points, but this is the way this team has played all year and the pattern, surprisingly, continues in the POs. Also, it's totally irrelevant in the POs how 1 game ends in terms of the momentum to start the next game. Just look at this series on its own as a prime example - the team that lost has come out hard the next game.
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 9:12 pm EST
Lets wipe the slate clean fellas......Saturday is do or die. We have a 50% shot here. Keep the faith....keep your heads up boys......Flip a coin! this series comes down to Henrik....We get some nice rest for the big game Saturday.
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 9:11 pm EST
The irony of the goal (and typical of the way we've played all night) was that it would've missed altogether if that Cap player wasn't in front of the net.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 9:11 pm EST
Callahan-Boyle-Anisimov? Prust-Stepan-Fedotenko? Mitchell out there at game's end? Really, the one time Torts does not screw with the lines all season. This was a terrible effort from the top down through the lineup. Henrik was the only one that gave his all. The rest were outworked. Pretty embarrassing.
Bob
Wed May 9 2012 9:11 pm EST
Just a horrible effort....Looked better in the third due to Caps sitting on lead....NBC announcers ecstatic....Second loss where an early penalty by Stralman puts us behind....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 9:10 pm EST
one good thing is that there is nothing to complain about except the shitty performance they put out there tonight....i can sleep well tonight!
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 9:10 pm EST
It took the Rangers 59 minutes to figure out they need traffic at the net.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 9 2012 9:09 pm EST
You just CAN'T have games like this in the playoffs. They have handed all the momentum in the series to the Capitals and have given Holtby all the possible confidence in the world by simply handing him this win. These two teams have traded wins in this series, so the Rangers have that going for them. However, I see the Capitals coming into Game 7 with more intensity than they played with in this Game 6 AND with the knowledge that they can win in Madison Square Garden. I hate to be all doom and gloom, but at least in the Ottawa series, the Rangers came back home having had a huge emotional win in Game 6. Now the tables are turned and I have a horrible feeling about what is to come on Saturday night.
evets1980
Wed May 9 2012 9:08 pm EST
Rangers needed to come out like pitbulls ......instead they chose to come out like toy poodles
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 9:05 pm EST
Hey look a goal...with bodies in front. Rocket science
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 9:05 pm EST
Correction we may have just scored one when it is too late....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 9:04 pm EST
Mitchell. MITCHELL!! fuck you torts you goddamn moron!
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 9:03 pm EST
A game this big and we can't even score....Embarrassing....Rangers should be ashamed of this effort....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 9:02 pm EST
Well guess this will give me something to do saturday night....
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 9:00 pm EST
Our plan of attack seems to be to hit Holtby in his stomach and midsection and hope the puck goes through him... I've seen Pee Wee teams play with more heart and conviction than this team has shown tonight.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 8:59 pm EST
Sure is disappointing to see the Rangers get outworked so significantly. It's not like this wasn't an important game or anything.
Bob
Wed May 9 2012 8:53 pm EST
Especially for a coach who switches lines like underwear
rngrsans
Wed May 9 2012 8:51 pm EST
KFC and mc - normally I would agree. But when has this team not shown passion and commitment? The coaches JOB is to manage the game and put his players in the best position to succeed. torts has not done this at all. Late in the 3rd and the same lines that haven't worked. Kreiders size and speed put pressure on the senators. But he has not played significant minutes in this series and that is unforgivable in my opinion. What is the to lose at this point?
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 8:49 pm EST
It is good we have Feds leadership for the playoffs....The guy is skating in mud....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 8:47 pm EST
This has to be one of the worst games they have played this season....just sad. For whatever reason they are not into it at all. Caps are running all over them.
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 8:47 pm EST
Hank worse puck handling goaltender of all time....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 8:46 pm EST
I can't take any more of this lovefest between Pierre and the Caps...little bald prick.
pete
Wed May 9 2012 8:44 pm EST
craps playing d only, score on these fools
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 8:39 pm EST
JFC is right. Man, I've never seen such whining in my life. I'm pissed too but it's not over yet!
MC
Wed May 9 2012 8:38 pm EST
get 1 make it a game, can't win with no goals
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 8:36 pm EST
0 for 5
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 8:33 pm EST
here comes the 5th pp
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 8:30 pm EST
With no bodies in front the Caps goalie has a perfect view of every shot...
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 8:30 pm EST
Eddie O. Where's Kreider? Switch up the lines?
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 8:30 pm EST
Kreider 3:15 of ice. Only Rupp has less. Fucking unbelievable.
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 8:27 pm EST
The Rangers are playing like a team that has a 1 game cushion instead of a team that wants to win a series!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 9 2012 8:25 pm EST
E...You don't have to....The Rangers already have....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 8:25 pm EST
So by the box score, Kreider has been on the ice for more than a minute less than Mitchell. Because Mitchell is known for his game changing goals?
mykpfsu
Wed May 9 2012 8:24 pm EST
This is all on the players....THEY are the ones who play the game....or in this case NOT playing the game. It's one thing to get beat by a team who plays better than you, but when you don't show up to play, you can try every line combo in the world and in just won't work. This gamne is all about PASSIOn and playing like you give a damn and it's the players who need to do that, not the coach.
JFC31
Wed May 9 2012 8:24 pm EST
Washington is at home, they are desperate. They jumped on the NYR and the NYR look like they aren't ready to match their intensity. And so the reality might be MSG game-7. This is why you work so hard in the regular season to get home ice. If not? Welcome to chokeville. But I am not ready to throw this game to the Caps yet.
E
Wed May 9 2012 8:22 pm EST
I hate to think of game 7!! The Caps will have momentum and a coach who coaches to win. Torts is coaching to lose....His pompous ass is truly disgusting and embarrassing as a Ranger Fan!!! Line combos suck!
rngrsans
Wed May 9 2012 8:21 pm EST
TUCC: I don't think its Tortorella at all.
E
Wed May 9 2012 8:21 pm EST
JFC31....Couldn't agree more...How do you not show up for this game?...Frustrating to say the least...
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 8:21 pm EST
Is there anyone on this site that doesn't think Tortorella is the one fucking up this run?????
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 8:20 pm EST
This team offensively sucks! I don't know how this team got this far which isn't very far playing this brand of offense. The Rangers need to turn the net around to score.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 9 2012 8:19 pm EST
Having a difficult time figuring this team out....Are they only motivated when their backs are to the wall?...Still say a dangerous game to play....We have let the Caps up off the mat....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 8:18 pm EST
3rd period down by 2..how much ice time are Boyle, Prust and Feds going to get.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 9 2012 8:18 pm EST
How we could be so freakin' flat in a game like this is absolutely beyond me. Fumbling pucks left and right, getting beat to pucks, losing battles on the boards, not covering men down low....I'm absolutely disgusted right now. They have a chance to move on to the conference finals and THIS is what they come up with? They need to pull their collective heads out of their collective ass and start playing SHARP, PASSIONATE hockey! Sheeeesh!
JFC31
Wed May 9 2012 8:18 pm EST
Torts can smirk and wise off and stalk out of the postgame media scrum and show how tough he is. I'll still hate that fucker if by some miracle we win this series or the next. I'd rather lose to Holtby than the sainted Uncle Daddy at least.
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 8:18 pm EST
And who's responsible for the lines combinations... our brilliant coach named Sisyphus.
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 8:17 pm EST
Can we start the Fire Torts chant now??? This was a sure win series...and an open cup run and Torts had screwed with everything! He preaches that the playoffs define players well guess what jerk...you are also defined by the playoffs....Where are our skilled guys and why is the 2nd line not Cally, Kreider and Step???
rngrsans
Wed May 9 2012 8:16 pm EST
This is truly a sad, pathetic performance tonight. They have dominated periods before in this series. Let's hope the third period is one of those. Perhaps they can tie it up or win it, but at the very least they are going to have to build some momentum for a potential game 7.
evets1980
Wed May 9 2012 8:14 pm EST
Don't disagree. Been pounding that drum since early in game 5. These line combos suck. Take away the two late goals (and the play of the first line in game 6) and it has been a disaster.) Caps will trap the entire 3rd.......6 or 7 shots at the most.
Fotiu22
Wed May 9 2012 8:13 pm EST
All I want for Christmas is a Ranger in front of the net!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 9 2012 8:13 pm EST
4 minute pp nets nothing....who needs a pp?......
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 8:13 pm EST
Playing with fire in my opinion....A win tonight will give Caps a huge boost for game 7....We really aren't even in this game....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 8:11 pm EST
They won't win with these line combos. Period.
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 8:11 pm EST
Bring back Avery, at least he had the balls to stand in front of the net !
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 8:10 pm EST
Game 7 is at home. Can't ask for more than that. Stay out of the box, stop the stupid turnovers and they will win.
Fotiu22
Wed May 9 2012 8:08 pm EST
If they lose this series, torts will be vilified for how he handled Kreider. Blazing speed and two game winners and he is sitting on the bench. The more I think of it the more I want to punch our coach.
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 8:08 pm EST
I had been saying Prust is a fourth liner...I now say he shouldn't dress in the playoffs....He is useless....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 8:08 pm EST
well that was an f'n great call....didn't realize Prust was that strong.....not that it matters......might as well send out that POS Rupp to hit Ovechkin in the adams apple.
Fotiu22
Wed May 9 2012 8:06 pm EST
Not surprised but I was hopeful....I really believe not showing up for this one may end our season....Can't just keep dialing it up....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 8:06 pm EST
Down 2-0 and our coach throws out the same ineffective lines. Comical how badly he has out coached himself. I'm really starting despise the guy. Third series against this piece of shit franchise and he can't close th deal. Sickening.
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 8:05 pm EST
Bad coaching costing us the game. Game 7 here we come
NYStranger
Wed May 9 2012 8:05 pm EST
OMG, why am I not the least bit surprised at this....
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 8:04 pm EST
At least the Rangers passing looks pretty....Do they get points for that? Keepin the faith !
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 8:04 pm EST
MDZ should never see another PP....One bad decision after another....Hank needs to stay the F away from the puck....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 8:04 pm EST
Keenan is eventually going to have to play Kreider as he is only one of four forwards who can actually put the puck in the f'n net.
Fotiu22
Wed May 9 2012 8:01 pm EST
Painful....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 8:00 pm EST
It's over for me! I got Weird Al on VH1 Classic. I'd fire up some Assasin's Creed but it's too late to get started on that. I'm tapping out for the season. These bitches play like bitches. I've got better things to do with my time. Like typing angrily about it.
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 7:58 pm EST
We get a PP, maybe the sides will be even now
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 7:58 pm EST
Again a bad icing and a lost face-off eventually leads to that goal.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 9 2012 7:57 pm EST
Tucc: After watching last game I agree....this game is over
RDW
Wed May 9 2012 7:57 pm EST
"Some people claim that there's a zebra to blame, but I know...."
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 7:57 pm EST
That's the kind of goal the Rangers don't score because the Rangers don't get men or pucks to the net.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 9 2012 7:56 pm EST
Nice of them to show up.....They may have screwed around too much...They could lose game 7....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 7:56 pm EST
Every player was on one side of the ice, leaving that idiot alone, did anyone see that!! Jesus !
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 7:55 pm EST
2
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 7:54 pm EST
That's all she wrote. Game 7.
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 7:54 pm EST
That is why Bickel doesn't play....Wanders out of position....F this game....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 7:54 pm EST
"Livin' on sponge cake...watchin' the sun bake.."
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 7:52 pm EST
Tots is trying his best to become Sisyphus. No jump, no creativity, no forechecking. Wake the fuck up!!!! It's a one goal game damnit!!!!!
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 7:47 pm EST
Hags, Richards, Kreider. ..Gabby, Stepan, Cally...Prust, Boyle, Feds...and 4 th line. Come on Torts, don't F this up!!!
NYStranger
Wed May 9 2012 7:46 pm EST
These lines suck ass... Stepan Kreider and Callahan were killers against the senators. Torts has lost his fucking mind.
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 7:45 pm EST
Heck bench Callahan....What the hell is he doing in this game....Just horrible....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 7:43 pm EST
Kreider had how many game winners Vs on ebad play?? Come on asshole of a coach....save your words for later
rngrsans
Wed May 9 2012 7:40 pm EST
Still have faith though ! Notice they have not interviewed Tort yet....LOL
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 7:39 pm EST
Looks and feels like were are permently shorthanded ; (
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 7:39 pm EST
Boyle and Callahan are a nightmare together....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 7:34 pm EST
On the bright side, we are lucky to be only down one nothing... This game totally depends on which Rangers team shows up for the 2nd Period.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 7:29 pm EST
Our D will have to provide offense....The lines are screwed up....Other than the top line I see very little....Stepan has turned into Stephanie again....Boyle is plodding along like Herman Munster out there....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 7:28 pm EST
Let's, if that's what you call "not bad", I'd hate to see what you call "bad".
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 7:28 pm EST
Torts is a genius and he'd be the first to admit it. I hate that arrogant POS. Mitchell and Feds on the PP ... Kreider on the pine ... I'm sorry; that's not inscrutable wisdom, it's fucking idiocy on a high, grand, stubborn scale. We need SKILL out there and not the goddamn plumbers union! Step-Cally-Kreider ... where are they, coach? Get them together and get them out there! EVERYBODY makes mistakes, but yeah, by all means, teach your freaking 'lessons' on May 9. A complete dildo.
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 7:27 pm EST
What is wrong with Gabby/BRich/Hags and Cally/Stepan/Kreider??? Fucking Torts thinks he is teaching a 20 year old a lesson??? He is a thoroughbred, let the MFer run!!
DCIGolfer
Wed May 9 2012 7:25 pm EST
Not bad could be better but not bad. Need to play with desperation and treat this like an elimination game.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 9 2012 7:21 pm EST
2 periods to go and only down by one goal. I do agree with everyone about Kreider. Play the kid. Torts hubris is astonishing considering what the kid pulled off in round one.
Tucc
Wed May 9 2012 7:20 pm EST
Torts is being a stubborn asshole. No second line threat. Must be talking to the Genius lately.
NYStranger
Wed May 9 2012 7:18 pm EST
Why is Bickel in the lineup at all, since he cost us two games in the playoffs already?
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 7:16 pm EST
It won't matter since we have played so much hockey with Torts misusing his players, the rested Devils will kick our ass. His misuse of the kids is awful and frankly I hope he gets fired if they lose! They played fine in the regular season but they seem spent in the playoffs
rngrsans
Wed May 9 2012 7:16 pm EST
Why, praytell, is Mitchell on the powerplay? Does Torts really want to take this to Game 7...schneidw - that PP is EXACTLY what I was talking abut. All three forwards ended up behind the net, Only one shot, and that was from the point...
tdchi
Wed May 9 2012 7:16 pm EST
Rhet, all I find myself thining now is I don't want the Devils' path to the finals to be through NY. Not if this is what we're bringing to the table. I've seen a few champions in my years and none of them looked like this.
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 7:13 pm EST
Nick... I'm more concerned more with Kredier still being on the fourth line... we are very one dimensional without a second line.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 7:13 pm EST
Fucking Torts has to be the smartest guy in any room. Where the fuck is Kreider?? We got a game in hand here. Play the kid who sparked the team past Ottawa you have made your point!
DCIGolfer
Wed May 9 2012 7:12 pm EST
Nick, for me it boils down to something like an old nursery rhyme. When they're good, they're really good. But when they're bad, they're horrid. Except horrid doesn't quite name it. Ebbs and flows are one thing, but this team could take bipolar counseling from CYBIL.
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 7:11 pm EST
Why aren't some of the kids playing when we need offense??? Torts plays Mitchell & Feds on pp?? Nice coaching
rngrsans
Wed May 9 2012 7:09 pm EST
THERE'S Mitch! After that faceoff win he's gonna be out there every goddamn PP we get. Fucking Torts.
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 7:09 pm EST
MONK... Outside of games 6 and 7 of the last series and game 1 of this series... they haven't had a consistant effort 2 games in a row since.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 7:08 pm EST
Well one of these goalies has a glove. The other prefers to preserve his guitar playing hand. Guess which?
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 7:08 pm EST
I hear that, Monk. This is supposed to be 'fun' on some level but I'm not having any ... It's like, I expect them to win (this year at least) so I don't enjoy it as I used to, but still get disgusted when they lose.
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 7:06 pm EST
Feds on the PP???....Sigh.....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 7:06 pm EST
Feds! Where's Mitch?
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 7:06 pm EST
Time to get even boys... Put someone in front of the net!
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 7:05 pm EST
Put Kreider on the PP!!!
rngrsans
Wed May 9 2012 7:05 pm EST
Get a Damn body in front of the net !
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 7:04 pm EST
Rangers spend more time going East/ West then North/South....Why does the whole team need to chase down the puck???
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 7:04 pm EST
I'm a Ranger fan through and through but I must be honest. At times I fucking hate watching this team and don't want to see any more. It's offensive.
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 7:02 pm EST
How do you neutralize Callahan...Put him with Boyle....Working beautifully....
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 7:02 pm EST
I take that back, after watching the replay again... he missed the puck... watching it real time I thought he swiped it away.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 7:02 pm EST
thanks. listen.....we know what we are up against....let's get the next goal.....pressure will all be on the Craps
Fotiu22
Wed May 9 2012 7:01 pm EST
Ever tried to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in the time between a puck hitting a Ranger stick blade and being shot off the blade? It's fun! You can do it without any special talent. the good thing is the precision that slowness creates. Marksmanship. And lots of goals.
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 7:01 pm EST
They knew the Caps would come out firing But yet they look like they are reacting and not trying to play offense
rngrsans
Wed May 9 2012 7:01 pm EST
nick the craps came out hard, they don't want to lose or it's golf.
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 6:58 pm EST
O ME of little faith, you are saying? Hey, hope springs eternal. I have some. I've just seen too much and Torts give me a huge pain. I mean WTF ... it's no shame to lose but you can't compete early in THIS game???
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 6:58 pm EST
Fotiu22... He actually made a very good defensive play,but it's one of those plays where the Refs react to the guy going down as opposed to what actually happened.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 6:57 pm EST
nick you can turn the game off now
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 6:55 pm EST
That was a trip. Stralman didn't touch that puck. Come on ...
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 6:55 pm EST
That will be the last we see of Bickel....We are getting smoked at this point...
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 6:54 pm EST
What a shocker. Way to have the boys ready, Torts. Maybe if he wasn't so intent on lecturing the media that every huge win we get in this series 'doesn't mean anything' -- and I'm sure telling the team the same thing -- he could actually put some fire in this club. Good thing Ovechkin is such a 'liability' to his team. And Chimera looks like the fucking Kanamit. What time is Game Seven on Saturday?
Nick
Wed May 9 2012 6:54 pm EST
missed it........penalty call legit or BS?
Fotiu22
Wed May 9 2012 6:52 pm EST
Say what you want about the Devils, at least they know how to finish a team off... We'll be lucky to get out of the first down 1-0... C'mon Rangers, don't wait until the 2nd period... TURN IT ON NOW!!!
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 6:46 pm EST
fuckin piece of shit ref douche bag ball licker.....that was a good defensive play, not a penalty ....you stupid ugly fuck
TradeStar28
Wed May 9 2012 6:45 pm EST
Good start! Devils, here we come!
FerociousMonk94
Wed May 9 2012 6:45 pm EST
Come on!! Don't let the refs win too
rngrsans
Wed May 9 2012 6:43 pm EST
that was not a trip, he got the puck first
stevielegs
Wed May 9 2012 6:43 pm EST
Are you kidding? This is how we plan on putting them away?
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 6:43 pm EST
UNBELIEVABLE.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 6:40 pm EST
Time to finish these guys off... DO NOT let them back into the series... Let's Go Rangers!!!!!
Rhet0ric
Wed May 9 2012 6:38 pm EST
As the Dugster says... Lets Go Rangers!!!!! Let's finish these guys off now!
NYStranger
Wed May 9 2012 6:34 pm EST
Come on Rangers!!! Let's finish them off
rngrsans
Wed May 9 2012 6:31 pm EST
LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS
thedugster
Wed May 9 2012 6:29 pm EST
Let's get it done tonite! GO RANGERS!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 9 2012 6:24 pm EST
Think we are going to need nitroglycerins pills tonight? Let's Go Rangers !!! Close them out and let's move on !
ajurso
Wed May 9 2012 6:23 pm EST
LET'S GO RANGERS
PJ
Wed May 9 2012 6:10 pm EST
WIN. The lawgiver has spoken.
heston
Wed May 9 2012 2:32 pm EST
Rather than "be nice" perhaps its "turn the other cheek" Thats what the Devils did last night, the Flyers tried to goad them into things and they just skated away. Make it hard for the refs to call anything retaliatory...everyone knows the get the second guy...sometimes on purpose, sometimes because the original incident gets their attention and they look just in time to see a guy react. Like someone else just said, be patient... there will be a time when a guy can be lined up, or perhaps at the end of the game the Rangers can have a 3 or 4 goal lead, than you can hack a whack a couple guys and try to get away with it. But from the drop of the puck the Rangers can not give the NHL a reason to get what they want....ANOTHER prime time game 7 with the team from the biggest market in the world.
Wildcard
Wed May 9 2012 1:54 pm EST
TDCHI - Actually,with apologies to Dalton, substiutute BE POISED for BE NICE and you may have the way to go..Just play disciplined, responsible, no revenge, no macho bull shit Ranger hockey,...unless they start losing!...
Hospo
Wed May 9 2012 1:48 pm EST
Hospo – Sadly, “BE NICE” is probably not a bad option for the Rangers, considering the recent track record of officiating and the skill Washington has on their powerplay. Crucial to the game will be the Rangers' ability to stay out of the box. It's the one VERY clear advantage the Capitals have over the Rangers...though I did just check...and here's one stat that just made my draw drop: The Rangers PP percentage in the playoffs is BETTER than the Capitals...not by much...but still better. Very bizarre...anyway...wanted to reiterate what Garcia said here...maybe with a few more exclamation marks...LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
tdchi
Wed May 9 2012 1:34 pm EST
HOSPO, Save the be Nice for during tonights hand shake!
Jerry_Garcia
Wed May 9 2012 1:19 pm EST
Actually, I think the key to the Game is in two words: BE NICE...If they check you..BE NICE...If they slam you into the boards...BE NICE!...If the slash and hold you without penalty...BE NICE!....BE NICE until it's time not to be nice....and Torts will tell them when it's time...Sorry, just watched one of the best "worst" miovies of all time...
Hospo
Wed May 9 2012 1:15 pm EST
DugsterS keys to a win,,,,,,,,simple,,,put in more pucks then they do,,,,keep it simple:)...LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!!!!!
thedugster
Wed May 9 2012 12:55 pm EST
Keys to Rangers winning game 6 tonight: Play with the swager you had all season long. Make tape-to- tape low risk passes. Get pucks and bodies to the net. Keep it simple. Finish every check, get the puck deep and play the cycle down low. Play with patients. Forwards need great back-checking along with strong four checking. Defense, join the rush only when appropriate. Hank play Hank. Don’t expect any calls from the referees. HAVE FUN! “Everything is Gona be All Right" LGR PS: Thanks for making me a proud NY RANGER FAN!!!!!!
Jerry_Garcia
Wed May 9 2012 12:51 pm EST
Scheindw – Here's what I've observed...the idea isn't necessarily to have three guys behind the net or goal line, but when you get three guys cycling in the corner, you keep two guys battling and one guy floating near the circle to drift either left or right to pick up the puck when it inevitably shoots out. Just when you do that, the puck is likely to fire along the boards...and if its the boards toward the net, that third forward has to drop down to grab it. In other words, them getting caught three forwards behind the goal isn't BY design, but a result of the design Tortorella uses. He loves to have the forwards cycle, free the puck and then feed the points...then have the points hammer a shot or try to find someone unfettered in the slot...It's so F@CKING formulaic that on the powerplay, other teams basically predict it now...hence why the Rangers suck so bad on the man-advantage(though I did see they're up to a season-high 18.4 percent with the last two PP goals)...Anyway...I've said a number of times that the Rangers and Bruins are very similar in design...well...this aspect of their game is almost identical...and from seeing both teams play over the past three years, I think it's one that Tortorella sort of co-opted from Julien. My buddy who is a huge Bruins fan noticed the same thing...The bonus is that it's a system any skill level of hockey player can play. You don't need a Crosby or Ovechkin to cycle like that and it's a system that's basically tailored for the dump-and-chase. That means it doesn't really matter when you juggle your lines, since you're really not doing anything fancy to begin with...the drawback is that it's not particularly productive and you're basically waiting for a lucky bounce or the other team to make a defensive gaff for the puck to go in the net.
tdchi
Wed May 9 2012 12:36 pm EST
Josh, you missed the most important item...."Flyers Sign New Goaltender"....http://www.puckpress.com/blog/featured/flyers-sign-new-goaltender-eliminate-turnover-risk
RF73
Wed May 9 2012 12:24 pm EST
Scouting report for tonight's officials -- http://www.puckpress.com/blog/featured/rangerscaps-scouting-the-officials
josh29
Wed May 9 2012 12:15 pm EST
Tonight, I want to see face-offs won in their zone when we're on the powerplay. Please.
VtRanger
Wed May 9 2012 11:55 am EST
On Hank: aside from the OV goal off his glove and his bad choice to go behind the net, he's been great this series. At the game the other night, folks in my section were all remarking that Hank had faced about 20 less shots than Holtby but had made 7 of the 8 toughest stops in the game. And it was true. He made some huge, tough saves at key times. Thats what you need. Nobody is perfect.
chinstrap
Wed May 9 2012 11:43 am EST
Meant to add that if you had more skill, you'd generate more chances coming into the zone and off the side boards. Lots of folks are complaining that the Rangers aren't driving the net and don't have guys in front. Well, the former takes skill (and size) and other than perhaps Chris Kreider (and he's too new/green for that yet) the Rangers don't have anyone of that ilk. The latter requires speed and puck-control, skills both Richards and Gabbie have and why they are together and why more often than not they make up what is clearly the Rangers best offensive line. Fast forward to next year and imagine either Zach Parise or Rick Nash in the top 6 - the dynamic goes up significantly, IMO.
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 11:41 am EST
I would like to see the OFFENSE steal a game this series. Throw a nice big 5 or 6 spot on the board.
Tikkanen
Wed May 9 2012 11:39 am EST
schneidw: Yes it's by design - it has to be because it's so frequent. I do get your confusion/questioning and I've never seen/experienced anything like it but I can only assume it's Tortorella's take on a strong forechecking/cycling game. You can't have that if you lose more puck battles in the opposition's end than you win and outmanning the opposition during those battles is one clearly simple way of trying to win more than you lose. That style/strategy is Tortorella's response to the team's lack of overall offensive skill (another response would be to send only 1 man in and have the other drops back to defensive positions early, but that means you're giving up the puck early and often in the other team's end). It's not a coincidence that both of Gabbie's goals this series occurred with him in front, getting the puck fed to him and he's arguably the team's most skilled forward (meaning there weren't 3 forwards behind the net on those goals).
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 11:38 am EST
schniedw - been mentioing all series that the Rangers goal (and the Caps weakness) is to control the puck along the backboards and then maybe steal a chance....and win a low scoring game...I think their strategy is to have TWO forwards doing the battling or scavenging with the "off wing" trying to get into position for the pass.(and occawsionally a D-man sneaking in)..But, you are right, sometimes there are three forwards back there and soemtimes the wings follow the play all the way to the other side......So, I'm guessing the main goal is puck control rather than shots on goal...Not hard to figure iout why the Rangers haven't or won't score much..
Hospo
Wed May 9 2012 11:23 am EST
QUESTION for Wallsters that have formal hockey training... WHAT is the deal w the NYR offensive scheme that has all 3 offensive players behind the net hacking at the puck...is that by design? I find it totally strange since even if they do free up the puck, there is nobody in front of the net to pass the puck... its a pointless scheme that can lead to odd-man rushes the other way... I think one of the biggest flaws with the NYR that is the root cause of the low scoring is the NYRs are bunched up, playing on the outside aloing the boards and not crashing the net... as a matter of fact, aside from Callahan and suprisingly Gaborik at times, no NYRs are positioned at the door step... So is this by design? THX for your feeddback...
schneidw
Wed May 9 2012 10:57 am EST
KIS - He has stiolen a game in the ottawa series..and in this series, he has allowed his team to win games.....You talk about Vezina goalies..Who?..LIke Pekka Rinne, who fucked up left and right....Mike Smith making bone head choice?..mistakes galore from Broseur, Bryz, Fleury...Tim Thomas? The only goalies playing as well as The King has been Quick under much less pressure........RF$L - Sounds to me like you want to see The King making highligh save after highlight save just to prove he is good...Well, that would mean the Rangers were getting steamrolled...Right now, except for maye two plays all PO, he has played fantastice within the game given him...
Hospo
Wed May 9 2012 10:46 am EST
KIS: And the Rangers quite frequently are taking that extra pass and shooting - the problem is those shots are coming from the perimeter because the Caps are clogging up the middle and the Rangers don't have enough skill offensively to counter it.
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 10:44 am EST
KIS: 2 of the 3 Ranger goals in game were weak and that Stralman opening goal in game 5 was soft, too. Holtby is vulnerable, especially with the way he comes out to cut down angles - if the Rangers could find a way around/through the Cap defense, they'd score 4 or 5 goals at least.
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 10:42 am EST
Hospo: I'm not saying the King has sucked - I'm saying he can be better and that should worry the Caps....
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 10:38 am EST
to beat this kid, the Rangers have to change the angle. They can't let him square up because he saves it. He comes out so far and takes away any shooting space. I say make the extra pass and shoot quickly. if you are going to hold the puck move sideways , like Staal, to change the angle. getting to damned fired up already.
KIS
Wed May 9 2012 10:31 am EST
The Rangers are going to do the same thing offensively tonight as they did on Monday.....shots from every angle that are low to the ice....hoping for a rebound chance in front. This kid plays goal like he's a shortstop....he will glove everything he can reach and that results in ZERO rebounds. The Rangers want to score goals the way they did with 7 seconds left in regulation....if you keep the puck away from Holtby's glove, he WILL give up rebounds. But, they need to have people there in front to cash in or at least screen him. Alos, remember that Strallman goal last game.....low and from a bad angle.
JFC31
Wed May 9 2012 10:31 am EST
JF, spot on. Hospo I want Hank to play like a Vezina winning goalie. I don't want shit goals in at bad times. Rf and others, I want him to steal a game. Holyby hasn't really let in a weak goal unless you wanna say Kreiders goal in game one. I don't know guys you give this man a lot of credit and make him out to be incredible but to me I just don't see it. When I think of great goalies I think of Hasak, Roy, Dryden and yes even uncle daddy. Those guys won series and were the best player on the ice. They won games even when their team wasn't playing as good as the other team. Hank hasn't done that in the playoffs this year. I hope he proves me wrong but I see him leaving in another shit goal tonight. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.
KIS
Wed May 9 2012 10:29 am EST
Henrik has been excellent. it is our lack of scoring ability that cuses there to be so much focus on Henrik. I plead guilty myself. He is so routinely excellent that when a slap shot from Ovechkin goes in off his glove, I am grousing about that fact that he usually stops those. If we had any offensive competence at all, these shots at the King would never come up. If we get past the Caps, we win the goalie battle in the next round. Of course, all media will be pulling for Uncle Daddy and the games on NBC will be an Uncle Daddy love fest.
Bob
Wed May 9 2012 10:21 am EST
RF4L - Did you see a few of the saves The King made in the tripple OT.? Yes, he hasn't been consistently challenged..But neiother has Holtby....,,..A testament to how even this series is..But Th KIng has played every minute in 12 major intense hockey games with zero margin for error just about every shot,,...And he messed up once, behind the net in the Ottawa series....Hell, SMith and Renne brainfarted at least three times...I don't understand what you guys want from Lundqvist....Becasue Holtby is playing almost or just as welll, means nothing aboout the KIng, but alot about the KId
Hospo
Wed May 9 2012 10:19 am EST
KIS: Holtby better than the King in this series? Dunno what games you're watching my man, but IMO, you're dead-wrong. Without a doubt, the King has faced more difficult shots. I'd estimate in all 5 games he's had to make 4 or 5 excellent saves; Holtby, on the other hand, nary a one. He's made some good saves, but tell me when he faced a Ranger shooter like Lundqvist did against Backstrom on Monday. You can't because he hasn't. Holtby stood on his head against the Bruins, but he's not had to do so against the Rangers. 98% of the Ranger shots are from the perimeter and/or blueline and/or outside the blueline. This is occurring for 2 reasons: The Caps are doing a wonderful job clogging up the middle and the Rangers are offensively challenged. Guys like BB, Cally and Stepan have been invisible offensively this entire series.
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 10:12 am EST
Timing is everything and The King has let in some uncharacteristically weak goals at inopportune times, which has contributed to us being where we are now. He is top 5 all-time in my book as far as NHL goaltenders go and he hasn't even reached his peak yet.....but if he's going to let in a softie (as all goalies do) it needs to be when we've got a comfortable lead, not when the game is on the line. He's let in 2 key goals to OV that he should have had....particularly the one from the point when he snatched at the puck and missed. He had a clear line of sight on it and flubbed it. Game 2 had a bad one too. We are better than the Capitals, period. We just have to stop letting them into games. If each Ranger (including The King) plays up to his capabilities, this series should be over tonight.
JFC31
Wed May 9 2012 10:12 am EST
Ah, the Flyers and Devils....I said from the day they aquired him, that the Flyers were hitching their cart to the wrong horse in Brz...that they would never win anything with that numbskulled choke artist.. The FLYERS were also the team Iwas least scared about.....Horrible defense..Horrible discipline...Horrible goaltending....The DEVILS are the exact opposite and deserve to be where they are in this league of parity........As for the RANGERS, love to see it done tonight but it will be a grind..just like every game.....you hope the Caps come out too charged and make a mistake but I don't see it.....the only thing that separates these teams is a play here or there and Special teams..We'll see who gets them tonight....The KING has been fnatastic the entire PO, the best and most consistent Rangers....but he does indeed need to be at his best if he has to steal one (and he did steal one in Ottawa also (Game 3???)...
Hospo
Wed May 9 2012 9:43 am EST
WASHINGTON has to win 2-row to advance. At this stage of the game the realities are that 1. The NYR can beat them in their own building. 2. In most areas at most times it was the NYR carrying the pressure, not Washington. 3. I don't see the NYR losing 2-row this series. Obviously we all want to see this end tonight but even if it comes back to MSG I have a lot of confidence in them. An OT win like they just had is demoralizing. The Caps will want to try to set the tone early and often. But if the NYR elevate and match them, Washington will lose this series.
E
Wed May 9 2012 9:42 am EST
TD, How has been the better goalie in this series? Holtby has done just as well if not better than the King. I thik the numbers are BS. There are games he isn't even getting 20 shots. Yes he has mad some incredible saves but I want him to STEAL a game. How many games would he have been the #1 star? Not once in this series. Plus he has let in some really shitty goals. Like I said, I have no problem eating crow and I am getting used to it HAHAHA. I would love to see Hank stand on his head and get us to the next round. I don't see it.
KIS
Wed May 9 2012 9:42 am EST
My comment about the King having yet to bring his A game is based more on the fact that he's not been forced to in this series, save for certain times (ie the breakaway by Backstrom where the King got a shoulder on the puck - if that had gone in the game was over and the Rangers would be facing elimination tonight). The Caps haven't consistently tested him, which is as much a testament to the Rangers as anything else.
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 9:30 am EST
td: Agree....Hank has been the best netminder in the playoffs so far. Yes other guys have had better games, but not game in game out. Quick has seen teams that have had injuries or just have not clicked for whatever reason. When he has seen the other teams top guys get chances, the kings have had a hard time and have needed to score more. And the teams they have faced have not put up strong defensive fronts. It would look a lot different if the Rangers had Quick...I mean, it would look like the golf course for the Rangers.
Wildcard
Wed May 9 2012 9:21 am EST
Holy shit KIS...what do you want LUNDQVIST to do?!? He's got a .940 save percentage and has faced 328 shots...22 goals allowed in 12 games for a 1.70 GAA. And that's having faced SPEZZA, ALFREDSON, KARLSSON, OVECHKIN, BACKSTROM, SEMIN and GREEN. I'm sorry dude, but you take some of the NHL's most potent offensive players and put them against any other goalie in the league and I really doubt you'd be seeing them produce those type of numbers. I know you're not a big fan of Hank, but sometimes you really need to look at the numbers, not just the goals he lets in. We've said it here plenty of times: All goalies let in a stinker here and there. What you've got to look at is the ones they DON'T let in. Hank's had some really tough rubber to stop. And as great as SMITH and QUICK are doing in their respective series, I don't think either of them can hold a candle to what Hank has done so far.
tdchi
Wed May 9 2012 8:52 am EST
I would love to see the Rangers close it out tonight but I don't see it. I see it coming back to the Garden. The caps get the last change. Lundqvist hasn't played well nor come close to stealing a game. The team has had a tough time getting goals and Washington hasn't lost back to back games since November. Caps ar a very tough team to play against. I say Caps win 4-1 sorry boys. Hope I'm wrong. I'm getting to like crow.
KIS
Wed May 9 2012 8:39 am EST
Totally agree all around.....we need to finish this series off tonight. I have a good feeling about it......I think the Rangers will come out strong and finish them off. No excuses.....the chance to move on is right there. The King can't let any softies in. If the Richards-Hagelin-Gaborik line performs as it did last game, the odds are well in our favor. If ya think about it, we have been dominating large parts of this series and are only up 3-2 because of our own mistakes. We need to be aggressive & smart and have The King be The King and we move on. Simple as that LOL!
JFC31
Wed May 9 2012 7:48 am EST
And another thing: AFAIC, the King has to bring his A game to this series. He's played well overall and in spots has been absolutely brilliant, but IMO, he can be better. That should worry the Capitals.
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 7:45 am EST
RF4L- I definitely agree. With some luck, we can put a team away I guess, but we have only done it once this PO, and that was G1 against Ottawa. BUT, in this series it should be Washington that cramps up and makes misstakes and not us. They have 3 superstras who are struggling/getting benched on a regular basis. They struggle alot to create any offense (and have been saved by a bunch of "lucky" goals). They got a coach who has not yet been able to build "his" team, he is still coaching a Bruce B roster. If we could just put ourself in a somewhat comfortable position, and let Washington be the team that has to force things -- odds are definitely on our side. But so far we have had Bickles misstake, Hanks failure behind the net, Kreider's giveaway and so forth give Washington the driver seat in a big way. We have had long stretches against Was were we have had things under controll, but not yet any stretches really were we expose them. If we are in a position after 20 minutes tonight and its tied or we have a lead -- then I am sure we will get every chance to do just that, expose them. Like we have done with so many teams this season. As long as we just don't put Washington in the driver seat from the get go -- I am sure we will do just fine tonight.
Ola
Wed May 9 2012 7:24 am EST
I know I'm stating the obvious, but man oh man would it be nice to see the Rangers finish off the Caps tonight. I say that for 2 reasons: 1) To get to the final 4 and 2) To show some sustained dominance, something IMO, they've not really done this POs (games 6 and 7 against the Sens being the closest). Even though the Caps had the better legitimate scoring chances in game 5, overall the Rangers were easily the superior team - FOs, shots and overall time spend in the Caps end of ice showed that. I really REALLY don't want to see the Rangers come out flat tonight - do that and you're almost telling the Caps game 7 is a given....
RF4L
Wed May 9 2012 7:12 am EST
schneidw - It's tough to say who has more on the line in this series...Tortorella or OV. They both do. OV goes home and I think it might finally punch his ticket out of Washington. I mean, five consecutive early-round exits? That's a tough legacy for any captain to live down...but the Tortorella angle is a great point...and remember there's about a half-dozen guys on the Rangers that got show the door twice along with Torts(Dubinsky, Callahan, Staal, Sauer, Girardi, Anisimov and above all...HANK). Gonna be a good game. I've already prepared a five-gallon vodka-Maloxx smoothy for the game...The recipe is quite simple: equal parts of cheap vodka and Maloxx. Blend with a handful of Tums, seven or eight pills of Xanax and ice.
tdchi
Wed May 9 2012 7:05 am EST
The Devils are a trash barge of a team that was circling the drain not too long ago...they're only advantage in this playoffs is that they played the two of the three weakest teams that made it in the east...I STILL don't understand what kind of flim-flam BS landed Florida in the laps of the Devils...and I I was literally CHAMPING at the bit to get a piece of the Flyers...Both very weak teams that are poorly constructed. The Rangers, meanwhile, are literally swimming upstream playing two very defensively sound teams with star power and with powerplays energized by dynamic puck-moving defensemen...I will echo what PJ said: There's ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE in talking about playing the Devils, since the Rangers are facing AT LEAST 60 minutes of some of the toughest hockey they'll play this season in the Caps' building with the dumb Russian Bear coming out with a vengeance. My one hope is that OVECHKIN comes in with a screw loose and plays a major disruption to Hunter's system. This is going to be a tough one, and they only get tougher from here.
tdchi
Wed May 9 2012 6:58 am EST
I've not seen HFD play this season, but I want to add one thing about McIlrath. That's an aspect that is a curse for 1st round picks. The kid was 19 y/o when he joined HFD (he just turned 20 in may). Dan Girardi at the age of 19-20 was not ready for the AHL. Girardi did not make HFD out of camp when being 21.5 y/o, he started that season in the ECHL. Carl Hagelin or Ryan Callahan was not ready for the AHL at that age. Nobody expected them to be ready. Mike Sauer had a very small role as a rookie in the AHL being 20-21 y/o. Add 2-4 years to McI's current age, and Girardi, Hagelin, Callahan, Sauer and co started to contribute in the NHL. And had McI been a 2nd round pick, I am 100% sure it would have been perfectly natrual for him to get those 2-4 years with zero pressure on them. Now he is under the microscope from day 1. Our team is doing really well, and that's great for him. Like he is not "needed", unlike say a Jamie Lundmark or Bobby S. But its still ESSENTIAL that McI is able to concentrate and really work towards taking one step at the time in his development. I mean, Dan G probably felt great about himself when he had an "ok" first camp, got a spot in the AHL after only 7 games in the ECHL. Then he probably felt great after having a strong camp the year after that in NY, despite not making the NHL, and then just getting a chance to play some in the NHL was probably tremendous for him. Its like, a player with reasonable expectations on themselves who can take one step at the time and feel great about every small step they can take -- develop well. But a 1st rounder who is slightly seen as a dissapointment even for not being ready as a 18-19 y/o, often seem to struggle at just improving on a yearly basis. Sometimes its one step forward and two step backwards. Because overall, I think McI looks pretty darn interesting. Huge. Good natrual open ice hitter. Decent skater and decent hands. If he is ready for the AHL next year, and can become a strong 4th-5th D at that level the year after that -- the step to the NHL as a solid NHL D, with some tremendous intanglibles, isn't that far away at all.
Ola
Wed May 9 2012 6:51 am EST
Ranergs better come out and friken win tonight. Need rest before meating Jersey. I'm sure the reffs and league will do everything to make sure ther is a 7th game and the team has to battle throught it. Just dominte like game 5 and put a couple behind Holtby early and keep pressing for the Win boys! LGR!!!!!
NYStranger
Wed May 9 2012 6:51 am EST
Dagger- I bet Torts is reminding the nYRs that WAS has eliminated them 2 of the past 3 years... payback tonight in DC on their home ice... A dominating performance ot finish them off will be a real treat for NYR fans...
schneidw
Wed May 9 2012 2:18 am EST
NJD in the ECF? If we or Washington loose, the league will become a Uncle Daddy mongoloid love fest. Then we got a lockout on the horizon. Yeah, that sounds just great.
Ola
Wed May 9 2012 2:13 am EST
So we could get to the SCF's by beating the 8th seed, the 7th seed and then the 6th seed -- has that ever happend before???
Ola
Wed May 9 2012 1:52 am EST
I'm Jersey blood and I harbor no ill will towards the NJD at all. They have given me endless amounts of entertainment through the years. They aren't my team and I love beating them but I don't hate them. I used to hate them when I was younger. Nowadays? I just want to beat them like a piñata. Their just not my team and they are currently waiting to cock block the NYR from a cup. More then me hating them is my disgust at losing to them because I think the NYR are a better team.
E
Wed May 9 2012 12:22 am EST
MelvilleFred, I am not new to the board but do not post often. Been reading comments on this site daily during the NHL season for a few years. Rod Gilbert is my all time favorite and also am a de hard Mets fan and I live in Canada- people can't figure that out....lol As for this team, we have a shot at it.....best 4 man defence since Leetch-Zubov-Lowe-Beuk. I agree with some comments that some guys tanks are running low.......lets hope we get the next game and some guys wake up for future rounds.
RangerGraham
Tue May 8 2012 11:57 pm EST
I lived through that crap with the Islanders and the humiliation that came with it. Then came the Devils, John MacLean, Darren Pang and the whole damn story started again. If the Devils had won the cup before the Rangers, I had vowed to give up hockey altogether. 1994 came damn close. Just think, you WALL vets would not have had to put up with me for all these years. Then, the pricks won 3 times inside of 8 years. I hate them and cannot bear to lose to Uncle Daddy. I would rather lose to Ovechkin than lose to Newark.
Bob
Tue May 8 2012 11:37 pm EST
Am a Jersey Boy as well and a fan of hockey well before the Debs showed up and turned everything upside down... nothing worse than the friggin' bandwagon that came along with their success. Still makes me want to wretch... I literally hate them more than any of our other rivals. All I can say is, they can wait their turn! We got a big game tomorrow before I even wade into that junk. LET'S GO RANGERS!
Z
Tue May 8 2012 11:32 pm EST
Born in Newark....Can't stand the Devils but won't allow myself to think about them yet....We have a big game tomorrow night...
PJ
Tue May 8 2012 10:58 pm EST
I am a Jersey boy, and I hate Newark. Not the city, the hockey team.
Bob
Tue May 8 2012 10:03 pm EST
After watching Fleury and Bryz for a month, and watching the Rangers launch 150 shots to score one or two, I ask: when will WE get some of these gift-wrapped goals in key spots? I mean, there might have been a few soft ones but nothing like tonight's, for instance.
Nick
Tue May 8 2012 9:58 pm EST
This guy never would have coughed up the puck to Clarkson like Bryzgalov did... http://t.co/lM2N3lKn
josh29
Tue May 8 2012 9:57 pm EST
As if the if the Flyers goaltender issues couldn't get any more comical, there current net minder scores the game winner and series clincher against his own team. Makes me chuckle...
Tucc
Tue May 8 2012 9:52 pm EST
Bob: Yep, I hear ya. But on the other hand it would quite rewarding to see the Rangers hand Unc Dad his final PO loss, wouldn;t it?!
RF4L
Tue May 8 2012 9:50 pm EST
Nick: Yes, Phuckman is responsible - he along with the board of phreaking governors, the spineless I(unless there's money involved) NHLPA and to a lesser extent, the GMs. These idiots have the foresight of a 1 celled organism when it comes to anything that's not about short-term money. It's reprehensible was this greedy little man is orchestrating. Is the ridiculously inept entertainment of the period of hockey I watched a direct result of a particular action Phuckman did? Of course not. It is, however, a result of a series of shortsighted decisions, some minor (eg replacing ball-challenged Campbell with Cantahan) and some major (keeping a money losing team in Phoenix year after year after year). His fat ass should be kicked to the roadside - alas, that won't happen because so many owners are equally inept, greedy, phuckman like.
RF4L
Tue May 8 2012 9:30 pm EST
Anyone want to see a breakdown of the last 21 seconds of regulation for Game 5? http://www.puckpress.com/blog/featured/breakdown-the-last-21-seconds-of-regulation
josh29
Tue May 8 2012 9:27 pm EST
Geez, now Bettman is responsible for styles of play? We're gettin' outta hand here. 'What happened' to the Flyers is that they weren't playing Pitt, who put on the worst display of hockey in many decades; an all-star game with stupid fights, no defense and abysmal goaltending. I still would rather play the Devils but that's largely because I live in Philly and just can't stomach that squad. It's not so much their guys; it's entire atmo. When they score their radio guy sounds like someone jabbed a flaming icicle up his butt; their PA guy has been there since the year one and when he yells at 1,000 decibels, 'The Flyers are going on the PECOOOOOO POWER PLAY!!!!' I want to scream 'Because Ed Snider and Comcast NEED MORE MONEYYYYYY!!!!' So yeah bring on the Newark Rockies. They can be had.
Nick
Tue May 8 2012 9:21 pm EST
RF4L--here is the problem.........I cannot bear to lose to the Newark Devils. I hate them with a passion. They can really skate.....better than we skate. We win the goalie duel, but is that enough?
Bob
Tue May 8 2012 9:17 pm EST
During the Filthy - debbies handshake, Giroux came out dressed in street clothes....He looked like Pee wee Herman in that suit he wore.....He is a tiny dude.........He prolly whispered to Brodeuer, "Ayy Martay, u gonna beat lundqvist that fuck, ayy ?"
TradeStar28
Tue May 8 2012 9:16 pm EST
Watched nearly a period of the NJ/Philly game and OMG, what an absolutely terrible display of entertaining hockey (actually that's an oxymoron). I have no idea where the Flyers of the 1st round have gone, but I sure recognize the sensory numbing style of the NJ Devils. Good job Phuckman, you ugly greedy self-serving piece of crap. The only thing that's been remotely entertaining so far has been the over the top violence of the first round. This second round across the board is what dull sleeping inducing hockey is all about (Rangers excluded because I'm an addict).
RF4L
Tue May 8 2012 8:43 pm EST
dugster, ahhh i know bear creek. I can't wait until the arena is built. PA and myself have been looking forward to seeing the whale for a couple of years. We usually go and see them play when they are at W/B penguins.
KIS
Tue May 8 2012 8:26 pm EST
JG: KNIT ! Use the SchpelCzeck
mf
Tue May 8 2012 8:19 pm EST
There you go again with your biting humor MONK.
Bob
Tue May 8 2012 7:47 pm EST
Bob....aside from a leather spiked device here and there, what's the difference from one Albert to another?
FerociousMonk94
Tue May 8 2012 7:44 pm EST
MONK--Kenny has his mother's hair.
Bob
Tue May 8 2012 7:42 pm EST
Marv Albert doing a decent job on play by play.
FerociousMonk94
Tue May 8 2012 7:36 pm EST
Flyers would be better off with that fabric goalie thing you use when you don't have a goalie.
Bob
Tue May 8 2012 7:03 pm EST
My God, Bryzgalov sucks! Brodeur is only slightly better. We need to move on to the next round ASAP.
JFC31
Tue May 8 2012 6:21 pm EST
KIS--- a 14000 seat arena is a major project- I live in bear creek about 45 minutes north- I understand there are several law suites about the project which will really drag the project down. it would be great to have another team around.....I love the lehigh valley,,,,wonderful place to live and play,,,,,
thedugster
Tue May 8 2012 6:15 pm EST
I'm all for blaming Hos. Get's me off the hook. :)
SteveCT
Tue May 8 2012 6:10 pm EST
HOSPO I think you are contagious.
stevielegs
Tue May 8 2012 5:14 pm EST
Christ, I even misspelled my misspelling. Dope. LOL
SteveCT
Tue May 8 2012 5:13 pm EST
Ammassing? Amusing. Sorry
SteveCT
Tue May 8 2012 5:12 pm EST
Tucc: That Ad. Red Wing team with Graves broke my old New Haven Nighthawks' heart that year. My then wife had the Nighthawks' Captain (a defenseman Richards maybe, nickname was "the General)" kids in her day care along with about five other players families. Watched a few games with Rick Dudley and Torts in Tort's home in Branford, CT. All pretty nice people, the players and coaches all had big, macho egos but I guess that is pretty much standard. Still very nice, warm people. Roland Melanson apparently made my ex's knees weak but it was funny. Man, that was a long time ago. Dudley was the rising star and Torts has won a cup. Who knew? Amassing.
SteveCT
Tue May 8 2012 4:59 pm EST
tucc- totally agree. I actually love watching games at the civic center. Place is old, sure. And it ain't flashy. But like I said...not a bad seat in the house! And I love the 'secret' bar they have under the stands. That place has singlehandedly made me forget the third period of the last four games I've seen up there...problem is, a lot of these AHL teams are trying to be like small-market NHL clubs...I was visiting a buddy in Chicago a few years back and went to see the Wolves play Grand Rapids...man that place was PACKED. They must have had 8,000 people there...The Providence Bruins are the same way...always drawing 7,000-plus...So a lot of these clubs think they're missing out on something if they're not getting those kinds of numbers...of course they also want to keep those teams close to the parent franchises(hence the Wings departure)...which puts them in a bit of a quandary...anyway...I would be loving life it the Whale/Pack comes this way. If Hartford continues to neglect the Whale, hopefully they'll look at Adirondack. It's a great place for hockey even if it is a little small.
tdchi
Tue May 8 2012 4:48 pm EST
GARCIA - Definitely true about the Rangers...but also true of the Caps, Devils and COyotes...I think the NHL PO wars really bring teams together...where the Rangers are different is that they have been like that ALL YEAR!!
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 4:20 pm EST
Rangers have great TEAM Chemistry, and are a tight nit group that play for each other. Hard to find this in any professional team! LGR
Jerry_Garcia
Tue May 8 2012 4:10 pm EST
CM - I could have missed it, but I didn't see any tribute to Yauch. They did play a Beastie Boys song, but I don't remember a tribute during it.
pete
Tue May 8 2012 4:03 pm EST
MARK--The man is clutch. Wow. I thought he was greal all game last night. He is the big difference between this year's Rangers and last year's Rangers. For the forseeable future....he gets the credit closely followed by YOU. When they win the cup, I want to hear him thank his former youth hockey coach, that teacher guy that now lives in CO.
Bob
Tue May 8 2012 4:01 pm EST
BTW, anyone at the game who can report if the Rangers did any kind of tribute to "my man Yauch!". I know the Knicks did. The win last night shocked me out of mourning for the most part.
ColoradoMark
Tue May 8 2012 3:59 pm EST
BOB- LOL, remember that it is a good thing I had absolutely no influence on Brad's shooting ability and he was smart enough to ignore any advice I tried to give him! He's had that "it factor" that Torts mentioned since he was a kid. In Junior, he scored 37 points in 12 games to lead the Oceanic to the Memorial Cup (two years after Vinny L left).
ColoradoMark
Tue May 8 2012 3:13 pm EST
doct - About time for Hagelin!...Had been a non entity (like Gabby also).far too often..Gabby had a strong game, if it was spurred on by Hagelin, so be it...If it was visa versa, so be it also.....But I do like the way Hagelin usually plays along the backboards, comes away with the puck alot and can make some crafty passes from beind...Gabby and Richards can do the same also..Hopefully all three will be "on" on Wednesday..
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 2:17 pm EST
doct i get you don't like Gaborik who scored 40 goals. If the choice was Gaborik or Kreider in the lineup for tomorrow's game , you would pick Kreider?......kreider is having a hard time stirring his coffee.......
stevielegs
Tue May 8 2012 2:13 pm EST
Having grown up near Saratoga Springs, I used to attend Adirondack Red Wings games for years (watched Adam Graves launch his career there). Glens Falls is the perfect place for the Rangers farm team. They have always consistently supported minor league teams and the building is a great place for watching hockey. It's old but has history!
Tucc
Tue May 8 2012 2:08 pm EST
Dugster, don't know where you live but I do live in the lehigh valley. There is some mitigation going on dealing with taxes but there is activity at the site. Arena is supposed to be up and ready for next year. I have a hard time seeing that but I don't think it will take 3 years.
KIS
Tue May 8 2012 1:53 pm EST
say what you want- but it was clearly haglin that stirred the drink for richards and gaborik last nite. haglin was unreal along the boards , won way more battles than he lost , and gives uo what ? 40 lbs to some of those d-men. great heart, quickness, and controled pucks with players drapped all over him , something gaborik sucks at. he truely made that line go last nite. hard to say about kreider, doesn't get in enough . made a couple good defensive playes in his zone, i missed high stick, but i didn't see him give the puck away for a 2 on 1 either.
doct
Tue May 8 2012 1:40 pm EST
Nobody will be moving to Allentown as they have not layed a brick for a building ,,its a big mess here,,,,,,,,3 years away at best,,,,,
thedugster
Tue May 8 2012 1:31 pm EST
tdchi - I've heard the Glen Falls rumors, too. The Whale is losing money like crazy with their XL Center lease (which expires in 2013). They basically pay twice as much for the use of the building per game than any other team in the league and they also get zero revenue from the concessions. The team, simply, is in financial trouble. Big time. However, HOWARD BALDWIN JR was forced to step down as President and COO and will no longer be running the day to day operations of the team, which may change things a little bit...
Dineen11
Tue May 8 2012 1:12 pm EST
RF4L - Yeah, MCILRATH was getting beat a lot, but I am not worrying about it too much yet. As you said, and you hear guys say all the time, the adjustment coming from juniors is a big one. They've got him paired up with REDDEN, who has been a great teacher for the younger D. I think we'll see some improvementin him next season. And ERIXON... I don't comment on him too much because I think I see something different from most. I see flashes of brilliance and a lot of bonehead plays. I can't tell you how many times he's been on the point and seems to have trouble handling the puck and loses it out of the zone. I think I've said it before, but I think after he came back from his last stint with the Rangers, he's looked worse than he did earlier in the season.
Dineen11
Tue May 8 2012 1:00 pm EST
Hospo: TANSKI is a 4th liner...not much of an offensive upside, but far from a goon. He brings a lot of energy, throws the body around, and in general, works really hard on every shift. And REDDEN? I know he brings intangibles like experience and leadership, but he has been playing like an old man lately...
Dineen11
Tue May 8 2012 12:52 pm EST
RF, saw the same things but I think McIlrath needs to work on his balance. He seemed to be leaning foward quite a bit. The kid definitely should stay with the pack next year. I think bickle is further along and seems to do the same thing
KIS
Tue May 8 2012 12:51 pm EST
SteveCT - Attendance in Hartford has sucked big time, but I actually think it was worse than this a few years ago. I can remember a few times a few years back where the Wednesday night crowds were probably 100-200 people. The announced attendance last night was about 1600. I'd say it felt more like 1,000. They've got about 1,000 season ticket holders right now and it was mostly the familiar faces that I saw there last night. I know being a Monday doesn't help much, but it's too bad. There is some good hockey being played. Also, the game was televised live in the Hartford area so that probably kept a few people home. I am nervous to see what a low turnout they get tomorrow with their "home" game being played in Bridgeport...
Dineen11
Tue May 8 2012 12:50 pm EST
SteveCT/Dineen11 - That is a pretty pathetic turnout for a game, albeit on a Monday...I've heard rumor that Adirondack(in Glens Falls) is going to take a stab at grabbing the Whale after Philly's Phantoms leave for Allentown in 2013. Despite having a generally lousy team their whole time in Glens Falls, the Phantoms regularly outsell the larger-market Albany Devils, which play in an arena that can sit 14,000 but average less than Adirondack. The Phantoms play in a much smaller arena, where there is seriously no bad seats. Just about everyone feels like your at ice level...Before the Phantoms came, there was a lot of talk about the then-Wolfpack coming here...and I've heard rumblings like that again. Would be a bit farther for players to travel after a call-up...but they would certainly be loved in Glens Falls...small market, but sheesh those people love their minor league hockey! When the Wings moved out, it was like someone ripped the still-beating heart out of that community.
tdchi
Tue May 8 2012 12:45 pm EST
Dineen: Great recaps. I watched the youtube 5 minute summary and saw McIlrath struggle with speed on the outside on a couple of plays, which isn't surprising. It's a big adjustment junior to the pros and the faster more skilled ones will test him to the outside continually (safer than cutter through the middle) until he proves they can't. I liked him stepping in for Bourque and he won the fight I thought, even he seemed to take a few shots once both players were on the ice and the officials were stepping in (punk-ass move by the Norfolk dude, mind you). I saw Erixon make a wonderful diving sweep check that knocked the puck off the opponent's stick (as opposed to knocking the opponent over first) - he looked like a Ranger D for sure on that play!
RF4L
Tue May 8 2012 12:32 pm EST
Thoughts from Games 3 and 4 in the Whale's series against the Norfolk Admirals (the TB Lightning affiliate). Game 3 on Sunday night ended up being a 4-3 loss for the Whale. This was a little bit of a heart breaker, as I thought they actually outplayed the Admirals for most of the game. They came out flying - good puck movement, lots of speed, good forechecking, no one shying away from throwing a hit. They got on the board early with a goal from WELLMAN (his first of two for the night), but then they gave up a shorthanded goal which I think deflated their momentum and they just had a really bad second period that they couldn't recover from. CHRISTIAN THOMAS was scratched in favor of SCOTT TANSKI, who is one of our bangers and grinders. Kid's got a lot of heart and I think it proved to be a good move, despite the loss. MCILRATH and MILLER both played a pretty solid game. CAM TALBOT, who has had a pretty strong playoffs so far, just wasn't playing as good as he has been, and that didn't help either. Tough loss. Game 4 was last night...better results, a 4-1 Whale win! I was a little nervous early in the game because they did not come out flying like they did the previous night - they were playing much more cautiously. And the PP - seriously atrocious. I really thought this was going to be over... Then JON AUDY-MARCHESSAULT scored a lucky goal that trickled through the Norfolk goalie's fivehole and things started to turn around. The night's other goals came from TANSKI, WELLMAN and NEWBURY. I thought DYLAN MCILRATH had a bit of a rough game, though it was nice to see him drop the gloves at the end after the Admirals went after RYAN BOURQUE up high for the second time in the game. Speaking of BOURQUE, it has been great watching him progress this season. He played an excellent game, as did JORDAN OWENS. TALBOT was also making some key saves that kept them in the game. Great team effort and the series is now tied 2-2. Game 5 is tomorrow night, in Bridgeport, because the XL Center is booked. It's a bummer that the Rangers have a game as well - could have given Ranger fans in that part of the state a chance to check out some of the prospects in action. Games 6 and 7 (if necessary) are back in Norfolk.
Dineen11
Tue May 8 2012 12:12 pm EST
Dineen11 - Thanks! Nice little 2 on 1 by Valatenko...McIlrath with a nice fight win at the end against some bearded lumberjack...who is Tanski? ...IF they get eliminated in this series and the Rangers move on, I wonder if Redden is one of the recalls
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 12:06 pm EST
1,164 announced attendance for Hartford. I'm a life-long CT resident and that's PATHETIC.
SteveCT
Tue May 8 2012 11:56 am EST
Here are the highlights from last night's 4-1 Whale win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmS1QhfBNNQ&sns=em
Dineen11
Tue May 8 2012 11:20 am EST
I think Shea Weber just slammed his head off the side of the team bus after the loss last eve!!! Nashville has a lot of questions to address this offseason. Radulov and Suter being the biggest.
PatrickDiv
Tue May 8 2012 11:18 am EST
Hospo- I found myself thinking the same. He is an incredible talent and something many (including us) do not have in their systems. It is an absolute shame how some of these guys are so casual and wasteful about the gifts they are given. Perhaps he can turn it around but likely not here as we dont do those "High Risk- High Reward" games anymore- THANK GOD!!!!
PatrickDiv
Tue May 8 2012 11:14 am EST
PATRICKDIV - I was gonna bring up RADULOV but decided to with until after we win the Cup or are eliminated....No way NASHVILLE keeps him now, bad bargaining positon but they will stil get soemthing decent......With GABBY and RICHARDS and the Rangers make up, not the player I would go for, Cup or no cup..And I have always been a huge RADULOV fan--who would be just like KOVALEV in NY
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 11:12 am EST
Given the fabric of this team and it's togetherness, I am not sure if Radulov is simply a more skilled version of Zherdev. A talent yes, and potentially even more of a disruption/distraction
PatrickDiv
Tue May 8 2012 11:10 am EST
DUGSTER - Hated Hunter as a player...and thought he was barking up the wrong tree earlier in the year...but he is doing with the Caps exactly what Torts is doing with the Rangers...Impressive for a first year coach and pretty surprised by his demeanor and bench presence....Also, he give s off this impression of "Hey, I know I'm no genius but I know Hockey and hocky players"...But the only tip of the cap I will give him is for coaching guys like GIRARDI and DZ in Juniors!
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 11:09 am EST
BTW: On another note, I have long wanted to pry Radulov away from Nashville but how cheaply do you think he can be had now? He is an RFA after this season and there is no way they match a sheet tendered to him. In fact, I wouldnt be surprised if the dump him for a pick or simply let him walk.
PatrickDiv
Tue May 8 2012 11:07 am EST
This team, just when you think they are done, they go and prove you wrong. Have to give Torts credit. These guys simply believe in their system & the approach and never stray from it. To a player, they all referred to the hard training camp and their cardio workouts immediately after the 3OT game. This team believes in itself, their system and their coaches. A great job thus far. What a crazy playoff season. Phoenix & LA in the West? Who would have thought that?!!! Hoping we can close them out tomorrow eve and Play the Debbies (a la 94) in the conf final.
PatrickDiv
Tue May 8 2012 10:59 am EST
And a tip of the hat has to go out to Dale Hunter,,,,,,he has been a class act as a coach and has done a wonderful job with his team,,,,,too bad he is GONNA LOSE!!!! LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!!
thedugster
Tue May 8 2012 10:57 am EST
barto---On the PP the bruins didnt score 1 pp goal in the whole playoffs last year,,,,we have scored a few,,,but I agree if we get that clicking we will be much better---Im just a really proud 46 year Ranger fan today.......Really proud how they never stop working,,really proud how they work every minute of every shift night after night,,,,,,,Just really Proud:)
thedugster
Tue May 8 2012 10:53 am EST
Dug agreed on that almost seems like their destined to get in the final round. First place since December now second round and finding away to win no matter what the obstacle. Bad officiating loss of key players at crucial times. A power play that's less than efficient but seems to do just enough to get a win. Allot to be proud of either way.
barto
Tue May 8 2012 10:22 am EST
the craps have a coach who wants it his way, not the old crap way.......i think the whole organization are craps, alias pos, and hope they find a way to lose 10-0 tomorrow.....screw the caps on an old soda bottle, and throw it into the garbage or burn it ( recycle pail for you greenies). ....dugster just might be right......destiny calling.......and i hope the debbies lose at least the next two, preferably all 3.....screw them too, and the cryers.....this is the real war.....take no prisoners......' kill em all'.......
stevielegs
Tue May 8 2012 10:21 am EST
DUGSTER - Likeable and worthy of respect, yes, but not special....Bottom line is they have played the 7th and 8th seed, teams they should be beating or, at the least, are even-up....So, I am gonna hold off on the special but I love their heart, fight, guts, discipline and teamwork..
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 10:19 am EST
Hank was amazing the last few weeks,,,,,really amazing,,,he is in their heads,,,,,no question,,,,,,,now lets hope we can kill it tomorrow nite and NJ and Philly go 7,,I fear neither team to be honest........Who ever comes out of the west will be very tough,,LA is playing really great hockey......
thedugster
Tue May 8 2012 10:18 am EST
RF4L _ Alot of close in chances for the Rangers is not going to happen..it's by design...They are intent on winning and keeping the puck along the backboards and sideboards, utilizing two forwards....Which leaves only ONE forward (or the occasional screaming in D-man) in the slot in most cases to receive those passes..It has worked just enough..ANd the Rangers are all about "just enough"
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 10:15 am EST
Got to give Trots, a ton of credit,,,,,,,,,ton
thedugster
Tue May 8 2012 10:15 am EST
BTW, if the Caps didn't play that way, Holtby would be doomed - he's always way out of his net on long shots, relying on the concept of reducing angles, as opposed playing further back in his net and using pure skill/reflexes to make saves. In other words, if the Rangers can spring a forward and get behind that defense, Holtby will be exposed bigtime, IMO.
RF4L
Tue May 8 2012 10:15 am EST
Oh shit now I have cursed us,,,,lol
thedugster
Tue May 8 2012 10:14 am EST
BOB: I thought the exact same thing. Stepan needed to be back with Cally and Prust should not be on the ice trailing by a goal with under 10 minutes left. I actually was happy Torts reunited Step-Kreider-Cally with around 12 minutes left, but Kreider took the high sticking penalty and even though he got a shift after that, he was pretty much done. The Boyle-AA-Cally line has done less than zero. Tough to watch the difference between Boyle pre and post concussion. He hasn't been very good. Hopefully he works out the kinks soon, we'll need more from him if we're gonna make a real run.
chinstrap
Tue May 8 2012 10:14 am EST
Hospo---if the 3 OT game and lastnight doesnt no qualify as special Im not sure anything will....This team has a ton of B type players but night after night they overachive,,,been that way all season and I think its not over yet,,Im starting to feel this is a team of destiny and we will once again find a way with guts grits and a little luck to win it all.......I struggle not to think this way but too many things for this not to be a magic moment in Ranger history.....
thedugster
Tue May 8 2012 10:11 am EST
The Capitals are amazingly skilled at eliminating chances from the slot, especially the high slot where lots of goal-scorers score their goals. The chance I referred to in my post about Mitchell I swear was the only one - there were others, of course, but always with at least 2 Caps crowding the shooter, forcing him to other try to fire the puck thru a bunch of legs or move off to the side and down the boards. The only close-in chances came off scrambles and/or working the puck behind the net and getting it out front where the Ranger forward was almost in the bluepaint when he shot (which is good, but gives the shooter zero ability to actually aim - it's more bang/bang). It was wonderful to see Staal's PP marker - he's got a nice low and hard shot and IMO, should be starting one of PP pointmen.
RF4L
Tue May 8 2012 10:09 am EST
Mitchell lacks the confidence to shoot. He scored some when he did. If he fills the role the coach needs, that's fine. It takes the TEAM to win. And this TEAM keeps finding ways, mostly hard ways. They all are contributing and doing their jobs, with a few mistakes .......
stevielegs
Tue May 8 2012 10:02 am EST
DUGSTER - Totally agree that everyting is about the team, the group, the collective and the Rangers have team chemistry and guts in spades....And why they have a good chance in the POs.....Has alot of good qualitieis, But not really sure about it being special...Think it would be much more special if it had a few improvements (not huge) but I'll gladly take what we have now..and watch this team play as one and fight and claw for another month..we'll see.
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 10:02 am EST
has anybody heard anything about sauer that would lead them to believe that he would be back? at this point, he will be waaaaay out of shape and off pace. i say let him sit till next year. imo, he is vastly underrated and added something really unique to our back line. i truly hope he bounces back. add him to girardi, staal and mcdonagh, and you have something really special. plus mdz who rounded out his game. that is a tough group of D. all mobile. and all relatively young (and locked up).
bLUEbLOOD
Tue May 8 2012 9:53 am EST
Hospo.. yep.
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 8 2012 9:52 am EST
DUGSTER - Sorry, MITCHELL is far from a mucker and a grinder...We could obviously do better for that role, but he is our guy this year so lets hope he keeps on making a good play every now and then and, better yet, unlike in the Senator series, no mistakes in defensive checking.....
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 9:51 am EST
dug..all well and good but I agree with Hospo's assesment of Mitch. Other than the FO, ????????? He especially has no business being on the PP. Hospo..you are also correct in what type of Club I would like to see. I will take the one we got for now though.
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 8 2012 9:51 am EST
I know one thing about last night that I would change...........Boyle with Callahan and Anisimov. Stepan needs to be in that spot. Prust and Fedotenko on the ice with 1:40 to go in a game that we are behind? Hunches are hunches and coaches get payed to play them, but WTF was that? Kreider was stapled to the bench in the 3rd. I would rather see Mitchell and Rupp out there with time running out than Prust and Fedotenko. Also, the Richards line was tremendous last night, especially Gaborik. He won puck battles, played physically and had a bunch of chances.
Bob
Tue May 8 2012 9:51 am EST
doct still want kreider over gaborik? ......so far Richards and Gaborik have been huge, doing their jobs , playing their roles........but it sure isn't pretty-boy hockey........
stevielegs
Tue May 8 2012 9:45 am EST
Its a good thing none of us are the coach of the Rangers because we would have no players because no matter what happens very few of you are happy,,,Mitchell is a mucker and a grinder--does he scores goals?..No but he mucks and grinds with the best of them,,Last night he did a very good think in the faceoff and I come to the board and all i see is he is easily replaceable........This team is all about the team,,the group the unit,,,,,they are solid as they are,,,,,Im not sure I would change a thing no matter what happens this year for I know this is the 4th youngest group in the league and will only get better,,,,If Sauer gets back and Krider gets ice time can you imangine how good this team will be,,,So lay off some of these muckers---yes anybody can be replaced but this "GROUP" is special and plays special.........That you cant buy!!!!!
thedugster
Tue May 8 2012 9:45 am EST
Its a good thing none of us are the coach of the Rangers because we would have no players because no matter what happens very few of you are happy,,,Mitchell is a mucker and a grinder--does he scores goals?..No but he mucks and grinds with the best of them,,Last night he did a very good think in the faceoff and I come to the board and all i see is he is easily replaceable........This team is all about the team,,the group the unit,,,,,they are solid as they are,,,,,Im not sure I would change a thing no matter what happens this year for I know this is the 4th youngest group in the league and will only get better,,,,If Sauer gets back and Krider gets ice time can you imangine how good this team will be,,,So lay off some of these muckers---yes anybody can be replaced but this "GROUP" is special and plays special.........That you cant buy!!!!!
thedugster
Tue May 8 2012 9:45 am EST
The problem with MITCHELL, who I can't stand but has made some good plays, is that he is a tweener...He's an offensive top line player for the AHL that doesn't translate to the NHL on most nights...Also,while a good enough skater, he hasn't developed the attitude, checking and defensive game to be a decent role player in the NHL on the consistent basis...Kinda in no mans land but occasionally his talent pokes through
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 9:39 am EST
pa.rangersfan - I'm with JFC, I think the 4th line has played welll..and done exactly what has been asked....I know you want high flying offense out of the top lines and I know you want banging and slamming from the role players, and I can't blame you, but those are the teams that are out of it...The Offensive teams--gone...the teams looking to physically intimidate, for revenge and heads--gone...It's all about discipline, responsible checking, shot blocking, playing the team game...Within that game, the Rangers have been more than physical enough...As they were all year.
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 9:35 am EST
Mitchell gets bagged on on here a lot, sometimes a little unfairly, I think. That said, he's a strange player and doesn't seem to be comfortable in any role he's put in (and he was like that in Toronto, too). On the 4th line he seems to often over-handle the puck (ie instead of dumping it in like his 2 wingers do, he starts stickhandling and loses the puck). When playing with better players, he passes off - twice he did that on PP duty and on one particular one, I'm yelling SHOOT because he's in the high slot with room (and how many times have the Rangers been able to shoot from the high slot without 3 Capitals in front) and he passes off to his winger (Gabby I think) who ends up skating deeper into the Cap end and shooting from a far less advantageous position. Let's not forget, while we dis him, he won the OT PP FO and put the puck back to Staal. That FO win made him 4 and 0 for the game....
RF4L
Tue May 8 2012 9:26 am EST
Ola.., I do like your thought process there. I wouldn't classify Mitch.. as "crappy" either but this Coach is putting him on the PP. Jeremy Roenick stated in the pre-game that PP time should be allotted to a Club's most talented players; I tend to agree unless you have a large body to plop in front of the net. Truth is; 4th line centre should have been upgraded at the dead-line.
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 8 2012 9:21 am EST
So I am watching this last night, seeing us heading towards an ending that I have seen so many times completely irritated. Ward takes the penalty with 22 seconds left and I say "big deal, there are 22 seconds left." When Holtby stops Cally at the side of the net, I figure it is over and I will have to actually root for the Caps against the Devils, and Richards chips it in. There was so much yelling here that I did not hear Emrick's call until this morning on replay. The magnitude of it did not really hit me until this morning. There is scoring with the goalie pulled to tie games, and then there are unlikley miracle plays like that, whcih have happened TO us much more than ever for us. It is so nice to see Staal win it after saving it with the amazing play on the 3 on 1 against. I thought of his brothers watching, and how cool that must have been for them to see him get the winner. Finally, everyone must genuflect to COLORADO MARK--Brad Richards' youth hockey coach for helping do develop a clutch player. This dude is MONEY. Wow.
Bob
Tue May 8 2012 9:20 am EST
pa- I don't know about Mitchell and "overvalued". He is a real crappy player and should of course have been "uprgraded" given that we have a real shot to take a run at the cup this season. I mean we picked up Olli Jokinen for a 2nd rounder a couple of years ago, I am definitely no Jokinen fan but he certainly would have been a upgrade on our 4th line over Mitchell (and is decent on FO's etc, and could have helped in long OT's and what not). BUT, for such a crappy player as Mitchell is, he do compliment some players on this team. It could have been worse for sure.
Ola
Tue May 8 2012 9:17 am EST
JFC.., no worries about adding new words to the language. Hospo adds numerous words daily! LOL
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 8 2012 9:14 am EST
JFC.., I would like to see more physicallity. The Girardi hit on Green was a revelation! I honestly believe Prust especially is just out of gas. The guy was 110% for 82. Rupp on the other hand, hit somebody please! Mitchell and his "talents", way over-valued.
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 8 2012 9:12 am EST
stevie -- yeah, that lack of call on Knuble was absolutely criminal. Don't get me wrong, I think the reffing has been conspiritorially (is that a word??) bad, but all the attention was on the faceoff, so all of the refs were looking right at it and Hags went right down from Wards stick to his head. I honestly think they had no choice....not that I would have been shocked if they didn't call it, but my TV would not have survived if they didn't, so I'm satisfied.
JFC31
Tue May 8 2012 9:08 am EST
JC if they missed a puck punch, they can miss a high stick, and they have plenty of times.
stevielegs
Tue May 8 2012 9:07 am EST
I have been listening to the NHL channel on XM Radio and man, those guys absolutely HATE....and I mean HATE, Torts.....and the Rangers as a team are not far behind on the hate scale. Bunch of Canadian guys who just seeth their dislike of NY and who constantly mention Torts' press unfriendliness..."oh, Tortorella gave a 1 minute 46 second press conference today...I guess we should be grateful"....etc., etc.....and they throw these digs out day after day at every opportunity.
JFC31
Tue May 8 2012 9:02 am EST
stevie -- the refs had no choice....Hags went down like a stone and he was bleeding. It probably killed them to do it, but they had to call that a 4.....though it could have been a 5
JFC31
Tue May 8 2012 9:01 am EST
I mentioned last night after we won how frustrating the game was to watch....I felt like the Rangers were dominating the first half of the game, Caps came on a bit and took the lead and then the Rangers' 1st line was pushing, pushing, pushing.....with no results until the end. But, I did not realize just how much they dominated until I saw sytats this morning.... 38-18 advantage in shots and a 78-35 edge in attempts that was 28-12 after one and 55-22 after two. The Rangers deserved to win this game....now they need to finish the Caps off on Wednesday.
JFC31
Tue May 8 2012 8:58 am EST
have to agree with the gainey rule, this shot block trap is screwing offense , as is not calling all the obstruction penalties in the playoffs that are called during the season. ....shocked they called the high stick with 20 seconds left.....out goes the conspiracy for one night........
stevielegs
Tue May 8 2012 8:56 am EST
Still buzzin' off of that win last night! pa.Ranger -- funny, but I actually think the 4th line has been doing very well, especially considering the lack of icetime. They seem to consistantly keep the puck in the Caps' end, keep it down and dirty and create some chances. The exception was Rupp's penalty last night, which really hurt.
JFC31
Tue May 8 2012 8:55 am EST
In Rangers all-time playoff scoring history: Scott Gomez has more playoff points for the Rangers (17 games, 6 goals, 10 assists) than Marian Gaborik (16 games, 4 goals, 6 assists) and Ryan McDonagh (11 games, 1 assist) combined. Somewhere, Bob Gainey is giggling. Somewhere cold and uncomfortable.
josh29
Tue May 8 2012 8:47 am EST
Hospo.., the spelling appears almost incoherent. Man, I love it!
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 8 2012 8:46 am EST
Hospo - Yeah man...I look down the Devils roster and see the likes of Stephen Gionta, Ryan Carter and Steve Bernier...and this is the team that's about to eliminate the Flyers?!? Weird place the NHL is today. But if it means the Rangers to the conference finals or beyond, I'll take it!!
tdchi
Tue May 8 2012 8:45 am EST
Honestly, I think the talent arguement is silly...Both teams have talented players..Both teams have good role players...The key is to get both role players and stars to be playing defense first physical PO hoceky..That's how you win...BOTH the Rqangers and Caps have done a good job...It might not look pretty, and some starts looks like they are slacking by desing, but it's all about the collective and defense...and yes, SPecial teams
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 8:44 am EST
td.. 10/4. I see your what your saying. I like Chimera and I also like Ward; as 3rd/4th line types. Our 4th line has gone to shit in the P.O.'s, just my opinion though. Prust appears to be mentally and physically cleaned out, not to mention he appears to have forgotten how to handle a puck, Rupp is disappointingly passive, but that may be the Coach; and sans face-off, what has Mitchell done? The Caps have size which I always prefer, and they hit. No love here, don't get me wrong.
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 8 2012 8:41 am EST
TDCHI - EXACTLy, HUnter, Torts, the Devils, the Kings, the Coyotes are all playing the defense first, counter attack, shot blocking, rely on goalie, and forechecking (this is the big variable in my mind that determines how really well these guys play) game that you have to play to win in the NHL POs..simple as that..and, it's alos simple that PO hoickey pretty much sucks right now....ONly thing that will change it willl be rule changes...But, hey, if your team is in it, it's not that bad...But if you want high talent team with zero disciplinte, zero attention to defenseo and zero chance like the Pens, Flyers, be my guest.....Gotta adapt to the time..
Hospo
Tue May 8 2012 8:33 am EST
pa - That's where you're mistaken...yes, the Caps have a boatload of talent four guys..hell, they have two of the top-10 players in the NHL...and if they were a baseball team, they'd probably be winning championships like the Yankees...but this ain't baseball. This is post-cap era NHL and you need sold effort from at least three, preferably four lines. The Caps' talent drops off fairly precipitously after their top five guys(OV, Backstrom, Semin, Green and Carlson)...Laich, Brouwer and Wideman, Schultz and Alzner...all solid players...but nothing to write home about...the Swede Johansson sort of reminds me of our Hagelin...but he's far from an all-star...then you get retreads like Ward, Knuble, Chimera, Hendricks and Beagle...They're not as strong defensively...they're not as deep on the forward lines and that's before considering who they have in net...like I said in my other post...you have one of two choices with this team: You do what BOUDREAU did, which is you let the star line log 25-plus minutes a night and hope they score enough to compensate for their defensive woes...or you play the system HUNTER has employed, which is more or less matching the one Tortorella and Julien have used all season...this defense-first, shot-blocking, clog-the shooting lanes hockey. It takes a team of guys to buy into a system like that, and its why we've seen a relatively quiet series(or playoffs all around) from the likes of OV and Backstrom. They're not those type of players...Basically, Hunter is trying to match the Rangers game and then hope his dominant powerplay will win him games...and to be honest, it's been really effective...but if you ranked all players on both teams in terms of talent, I think you'd actually find the Rangers would come out on top. Maybe not by much, but still on top.
tdchi
Tue May 8 2012 8:22 am EST
Totally disagree on the notion of HUNTER holding back the Caps. He's the sole reason they've gotten as far as they have. He's playing the EXACT style that was able to eliminate the BRUINS in seven...and it's been remarkably effective against the Rangers too(no surprise, seeing as though the B's and the Rangers are very similar teams)...that moron BOUDREAU let his fastest horses run roughshod during his whole tenure and the only reason those teams were as successful as they were was because they were infinitely deep. There third and fourth lines were better than many team's first and second lines...guys like OV, SEMIN, BACKSTROM and GREEN could play the sort of loose-system hockey that allowed them to put up such big numbers because the rest of the team was impenetrable. But as is the fate for most top-heavy teams, the talent pool with the Caps has trailed off rather dramatically. STECKEL, GORDON, and FLEISHMAN moved...BRADLEY was another...Five guys who played rather unheralded roles with the team...all cut or moved for salary reasons...Hunter is playing the system the Caps should have been playing two years ago: Putting a goddamn leash on that roving moron OV and playing good fundamental hockey. They'd probably have a cup by now if they had done that last year...at least they would have given the Bruins a very good run for their money.
tdchi
Tue May 8 2012 8:17 am EST
Just a few thoughts this am..I know you folks where eagerly awaiting a post from me; LOL!!! I too switched the game off about 10 minutes into the third to watch River Monsters; I was literally numb with anger. Washington has a plethora of talent that our Club only wishes it had. I am frankly at a loss as to how they are not utilizing those talents better. Don't care, because it's obvious our guys just go about business the only way they know how. I would prefer to see some more talent in this line-up though. I am warming to the pursuit of Parise in the off-season. He may be a Devil who could get it done; a story for another day though. As I watched the last 4 minutes of the third I actually tried to take myself back to '94 and tried to recall how I was sitting in my chair, where my drink was placed, just crazy shit. We are all NUTS but we all already knew that.
pa.rangersfan
Tue May 8 2012 8:06 am EST
I sure picked a great time to go to my first playoff game since '94. Easily the 2nd best moment in my 30 year history with this team behind winning the Cup. The crowd was not as loud as I expected until all the magic happened at the end. It was complete chaos, I could feel the ground shaking. Staal and Lundqvist saved our asses with us down 2-1 late, that can not be overlooked (though I was shocked The King let in that 2nd goal). They gave Holtby the 2nd star, I guess for impersonating a garbage can and just sitting there while the Rangers hit him with pucks.
pete
Tue May 8 2012 7:59 am EST
Great game...not really much to add, other than that was WAAAAY too close for comfort. Sounds like the Rangers have taken a page out of the Book of Bruin...just tossing everything and the kitchen sink at HOLTBY...which is fine...but realize that's not going to win the series...Funny that penis-head McGuire is being flagrant about his bias now. I really don't understand how that schmuck has a job...I'm no big fan if Micheltti, but sheesh...he's a gigantic upgrade from McGuire and fellow assclown Doc Emrick...back to the game...Simply INCREDIBLE finish...I'm kind of glad I didn't watch it live. Would have definitely put a few holes in my walls...WARD...man...the guy goes from hero to the dog house. I really don't know what he was thinking other than what McGuire mumbled, which was that the game was over....Man...B-RICH is as-advertised. Didn't want to trade for him and was lukewarm about his signing...but man is he the straw that stirs the drink in big games...On another note...Who thinks TROTZ could be finding a new job after blowing that series against the Yotes? All that work to get RADULOV back in a Predators uniform blown...his last free year...blown...and now his future with the team in doubt...not sure if either he or the Preds will want to keep the relationship going after the epic fail in Nashville....those deadline deals not looking so good for them anymore.
tdchi
Tue May 8 2012 6:34 am EST
Haglin by a nose. What a finish.
gene_carr
Tue May 8 2012 6:29 am EST
Rhet0ric: I was wondering the same thing about Ward...meaning why no 5 min major? My fiancé pointed out something on replay...he was looking the other way, it seems you normaly get 5 if you are looking at the guy and two hand him that way...and it being Ward I don't think he was trying to get him up high like that...so I wonder if the ref saw it that way. What I mean is, looking right at a guy you know you tagging him really good in the face, so it is easier to guess intent rather than when a guy is not looking.
Wildcard
Tue May 8 2012 12:12 am EST
Wednesday night is going to be another intense game in Washington, the Caps should come out flying in the first period. The Rangers better be ready and finish them off.
Gibbo
Mon May 7 2012 11:23 pm EST
Need the Flyers to keep that series going tomorrow....Damn I still can't believe we won tonight.....GOOOOO RANGERS!!!
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 11:17 pm EST
If the Coyotes play the Kings the games will make World Cup Soccer seem high scoring....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 11:11 pm EST
Hey mf I'm SMILING :->) 2 POWER PLAY GOALS ....... When you get back you better butter my bread! :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) LETS GO RANGERS Fuck these commie basters! and fuck you Mike Emrick, after every game he calls when the RANGERS WIN he says nothing about the game after the final buzzer only when the Rangers win what a dirt bag! I really want to meet him in an elevator at MSG some day!
Jerry_Garcia
Mon May 7 2012 10:58 pm EST
mf: Yep take two and you will be peaking with about 10 seconds to go in the game. It takes a LOT to WIN, but what just happened... I was waiting for the zebras to disallow the tying goal for some reason like back to the war room for review, or time ran out on the official clock or something. Nice the puck hit the post and caromed in the net. I'm seeing colors right now! Got to love the hit Dan Girardi dished on Green...SMACK and did not jump off the ice for the clean hit. Craze Cat Peaking.... China Cat! Til the Morning Comes!
Jerry_Garcia
Mon May 7 2012 10:57 pm EST
Speaking of Joel Ward... why wasn't that a 5:00 Minute major? He hacked at Hagelin's head like he was chopping wood and he drew blood... would he have gotten 5:00 minutes if he killed him?
Rhet0ric
Mon May 7 2012 10:54 pm EST
...and the Coyotes get an owner... tentative deal in place with former San Jose Sharks CEOGreg Jamison... WINNING cures everything.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 7 2012 10:50 pm EST
VIC - Man, I know the feeling...TWICE I turned the game off...pissed off...talked to my son..kicked, er, played with the dog...then put it back on ..THe last time I tuned in, Joel Wards was getting the penalty over me bitching about the score still being 2-1 and how those ^%$#*(&^%$*U Ranger blwo...And then boom!..I had the feeling they were going to score before the PP ended at the start of OT, don't know why...Maybe becaus I wanted to watch Diners Drive Ins and Dives!
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 10:45 pm EST
Potent Power Play Batman!,,,,Gotta admit, I was just laughing my ass off reading the in-game comments..Why I tend to stay away!...BOth teams play soilid D..both teams block shots..both teams are chalenged offensively....Comes down to STs..The Rangers PP blew and then struck gold, no mattr how it was done....All tht matteers is winning.....Outtplayed the Caps and still din;t look great ..Face it...boith the Caps and Rangers make it hard for the other team to look good...Hell, the Caps are playing more Rangerish than The Rangers ..letting the Rangrs control the puck and blocking all the shots...But..as the Rangers learned in Ottawa, it has its' disdavaeages.......Don't really want to comment on the lines becasue I really don;t think any of our forwards are that consistently good to whine about their placement...But good to see some top play for Gabby (besdis the Turnover) and Richards....what a gola!
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 10:41 pm EST
E...Thought the same about Hunter....Very composed and cooperative with the media after a devastating loss...Torts still somewhat of a DB even after a huge win....If we had lost Torts would have been ripping people and running away like a 6 year old....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 10:41 pm EST
I think I will be up all night watching NHL Tonight reruns.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 10:31 pm EST
Phoenix now up 2-0... WOW.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 7 2012 10:31 pm EST
The 2011-2012 NY Rangers are the new CARDIAC KIDS... they are going to kill me before these playoffs are all said and done... GREAT GAME!!!
Rhet0ric
Mon May 7 2012 10:30 pm EST
E: I've been having the same thoughts about the CAPS and HUNTER as well. I hated the guy. He was one of the dirtiest players in his era and the hit on TURGEON was an embarrassment to the game. His demeanor as a coach is completely different though. My only issue with him is that I think he has gone too far with that team. They have more talent then he is allowing to shine. The Rangers have to play the way they play because most of the team handles the puck like it is a grenade. The CAPS have a better team then that, yet he is making them play down to the Rangers level. Two years ago the CAPS skated circles around the Rangers. They dominated almost every game. The team they have now is better then that one in the sense that their star players are more mature. I read the article today about GAINEY's proposal on curbing shot blocking. I think he is right. The game suffers when you stack all 6 guys in front of the goal. If we have reached another point where defensive minded coaches have figured out the way to neuter the game and eliminate the impact of talent on the game then something needs to change.
Vic
Mon May 7 2012 10:14 pm EST
I was so pissed all night that I wanted to shut the game off and walk away. When they went down 2 to 1 I *KNEW* that it was over. I almost fast forwarded the rest of the game....................But I didn't.................I think it would take me a day to write down all of my comments on this game from the officiating, the broadcast, HANK, HOLTBY, etc., etc. I am going to forget all of that for the moment and focus on 4 things. First, HANK is killing me. How does a guy who lets in shots from the blue line make so many unbelievable, game saving saves. Second, the two plays that STAAL made on the 3 on 1 were clutch. He was money on that sequence and the idiot broadcast team didn't even mention it. Third, when HANK made the breakaway save on BACKSTROM my first thought was "remember that one". We may look back on that and say that the save he made gave the Rangers a chance to come back and win the game........and it did. Fourth, the second the double minor was called I think it was that idiot McGUIRE blurted out that double-minor didn't mean anything......and then caught himself before he finished the sentence. Right there I smiled. Karma is a bitch PIERRE. I still didn't believe that the Rangers were going to score to tie it but as soon as they did I KNEW they were going to score the other half of that PP. God, what a game........
Vic
Mon May 7 2012 10:07 pm EST
You know, I gotta give it to Dale Hunter. He whipped that team into shape and he goes to the press podium and doesn't bitch. No sour grapes, no nothing. Tells the press to not over analyze the game. Says, "its just hockey…" Very complimentary to the NYR. After the type of player that Hunter was, I expected him to be an ultra prick as a coach. Meanwhile, the Totortitarian is carrying himself like he should be wearing a propeller hat in the press room. I have to state, after the total debacle of the 1st round with classless Ottawa, Washington as an organization has carried themselves well. Had an issue with the OV hit but Girardi crushes Hendricks. Hendricks calls it a hockey play. No pissing and moaning. This Washington team has gone a long way towards winning my respect. Now lets see the NYR put them away and get out of this series. This is a well contested series with some horrific zebras.
E
Mon May 7 2012 10:06 pm EST
PJ: Agreed but Mitchell just can't be a PP fixture despite the faceoff win tonight. But hey. We roll on!
Nick
Mon May 7 2012 10:02 pm EST
Just back from the Garden. HOLY SHIT. To be honest, the crowd was terrible for the first 59 minutes, really disappointing. But the last minute washed it all away. Thought the roof was gonna blow off when Richards scored. Dude earns his money when it counts. Winning faceoffs and scoring goals. And Staal was shaky most of the game, but nice to see him get the winner, he's been through a lot. A lot to fix (aside from the Richards line, which was great most of the game, it was a mess), but let's enjoy this. Awesome.
chinstrap
Mon May 7 2012 10:02 pm EST
AWESOME: WORTHY OF A DESPO SIGHTING !!!!!! :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->)
mf
Mon May 7 2012 10:00 pm EST
Nick...I thought the fourth line did a pretty good job tonight....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 9:59 pm EST
I guess you guys wanted to keep me around $-) Family and work are overrated! Let's go Rangers!!!
TradeStar28
Mon May 7 2012 9:58 pm EST
First it was Karl Alzner's dogs... now Alex Semin's cats! http://www.puckpress.com/blog/featured/alexander-semins-cats-destroy
josh29
Mon May 7 2012 9:58 pm EST
doct....Agree but it is celebration time.....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 9:56 pm EST
It's a Power Play goal!
LetsGoRangers
Mon May 7 2012 9:55 pm EST
rangers won dispite torts.. he screwed up the lines , left himself 1 line that could get scoring chances. haglin was best player for rangers by far..hope torts changes the lines back to where they were.
doct
Mon May 7 2012 9:53 pm EST
…and this is why you watch the game. That was awesome. Never say die. Let this one manifest into your modern NYR folklore. Richards is a stone killer.
E
Mon May 7 2012 9:46 pm EST
It'll take me an hour to chill out.... what an emotional roller coaster but what a different culture......kinda had a little deja vu .. but last time we were on the other end of a late goal.... remember game 5 in Buffalo in 2007 .. Drury scores with like 7 seconds to tie it .. and then the Sabres won in OT and then won game 6......
sjw
Mon May 7 2012 9:46 pm EST
This was great but ... yes, but ... Torts the Genius will now run Mitchell out there on every PP until the end of time. And while it worked this once -- a big once, admittedly -- it's not a good thing.
Nick
Mon May 7 2012 9:44 pm EST
I went to the Stanley Cup parade for Adam MacQuaid last summer in Prince Edward Island .Happened to be there visiting my son and family. Have had plans since last July 1st to go there again this summer for the Brad Richards parade ....well , the parade is still on !!
NS Ranger
Mon May 7 2012 9:43 pm EST
that was a mat-toe game......unforgettable.......
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 9:40 pm EST
Kudos to Mitchell on the faceoff win in OT....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 9:40 pm EST
WOW!!! I was so ready for the caps to score an empty net goal or for the time to run out on us. :)
Topovski
Mon May 7 2012 9:39 pm EST
Wildcard, who needs a PP? the NYR get 2PP goals to tie and win a game in OT......but who needs it? The NYR DO!.......it wins games, it makes the other team pay.......but the w is the goal.....,,,need 9 more......
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 9:38 pm EST
What a roller coaster ride of a playoffs....can't take too many more of these nailbiters . But Rangers win !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NS Ranger
Mon May 7 2012 9:38 pm EST
WOW!
LetsGoRangers
Mon May 7 2012 9:37 pm EST
Newfie -- yes indeed on the 3-on-1 .. two beautiful stick checks from Staal there; could have been curtains.
Nick
Mon May 7 2012 9:36 pm EST
PJ: Of course. We love the Rangers and hate everyone else.... Next question please :->)
mf
Mon May 7 2012 9:34 pm EST
Can you both hate and love a team? My heart can't handle this....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 9:34 pm EST
Just wow! Pent-up PP lousiness dissipates with some luck. No agendas or paid-off refs tonight! Well maybe ... FOR US! Four minute penalty with 30 seconds left ... I'll take it. Richards whacked that puck an instant before Holtby's glove came down, and it snuck between the D-man's arm and body. Incredible! And as Staal wound up I thought in that instant -- this shot is just like how the Caps have scored PP goals so how about us???
Nick
Mon May 7 2012 9:32 pm EST
We need to finish these guys off on Wednesday. We have had them on the ropes in game 2 and in this game and did not show a killer instinct. We need to bury them on Wednesday!! No more playing around!
JFC31
Mon May 7 2012 9:31 pm EST
Did we actually just win this game? I am still in bewildered shock.... Holy shit!!!!!!!
Tucc
Mon May 7 2012 9:30 pm EST
Newfie: You got that right, that was an amazing play by Staal.... It looks like he's shaken the cobb webs and any subconscious fears.... He's peaking at the right time of the show (Right Jerry G?) :->)
mf
Mon May 7 2012 9:28 pm EST
One of the most frustrating, maddening and now EXHILERATING games I have ever seen! YEEEEAAAAAHHH, BABY!! What a reckless, stupid play by Ward....where those goat horns proudly my friend!! WOOO-HOOOO! We caught a HUGE break! YES!!
JFC31
Mon May 7 2012 9:28 pm EST
God love him.............but it's not the GOAL.......... it's the stop on the three on one that was unbelievable.......Marc is back !.......Let's Go RANGERS !
Newfie_Ranger
Mon May 7 2012 9:27 pm EST
Was that actually 2 PPG's?
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 9:27 pm EST
BUT
mf
Mon May 7 2012 9:26 pm EST
NOTHIN LEFT TO DO BYE SMILE, SMILE, SMILE, :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->)
mf
Mon May 7 2012 9:26 pm EST
I go the frick' bathroom... gut check win. 6.6 seconds. Yikes.
SteveCT
Mon May 7 2012 9:25 pm EST
a miracle
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 9:25 pm EST
Thank you Richie! Thank you Staal!! THANK YOU JOEL WARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STPB
Mon May 7 2012 9:23 pm EST
I noticed the bodies in front of the net screening the goalie..maybe the should try that more often.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 9:22 pm EST
Anyone notice a body in front of the net....screening? Not rocket science
ajurso
Mon May 7 2012 9:20 pm EST
WE WIN WE WIN WE WIN GOOOOOO RANGERS!!
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 9:20 pm EST
ANYBODY SMILING ??? :->) :->) :->) :->) :->)
mf
Mon May 7 2012 9:20 pm EST
yes 3 win
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 9:20 pm EST
Redeemed!
ColoradoMark
Mon May 7 2012 9:20 pm EST
I AM NOW MORE THAN SHOCKED
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 9:20 pm EST
ITS A POWER PLAY GOAL!!!!!
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 9:17 pm EST
who needs a pp? , just score more than one or two......need the 3rd one asap....take it any way you can get it.....this has been a non pp team, but they find ways.....would be nice to get a pp goal in the first minute or so....
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 9:15 pm EST
COMARK--thanks again for teaching Brad how to shoot the wrister.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 9:13 pm EST
Agreed, don't think Holtby is the difference. Caps have blocked shots incredibly. I don't think the Power Play was that bad as far as getting chances. No real shots on goal in the first three power plays, but it's not like they didn't have chances. It was all caps in the lanes. They can redeem themselves with a power play goal to start this period.
ColoradoMark
Mon May 7 2012 9:11 pm EST
A bad PP would be an upgrade and the series would be over!
LetsGoRangers
Mon May 7 2012 9:09 pm EST
We are far from being manhandled....We just can't score on the PP....An average PP and this series is already over....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 9:09 pm EST
Anybody seeing the Holtby highlights of his great saves...Rangers shooting the puck into his pads.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 9:08 pm EST
That's vintage Richards. This is why you sign him to a ridiculous contract. You could see him willing this team to tie it up.
ColoradoMark
Mon May 7 2012 9:07 pm EST
Nash would look good on the wing wouldn't he ?
HamiltonHellhounds
Mon May 7 2012 9:06 pm EST
Great goal to send it to overtime, but come on, no one can say they are not being manhandled by the Caps... Seriously. Can anyone get to Tort and tell him to switch it up and keep a body in front of the damn net.
ajurso
Mon May 7 2012 9:05 pm EST
was = wasn't
mf
Mon May 7 2012 9:05 pm EST
If that was the epitome of a big money player scoring a big money goal, nothing is..... Wow that was great...... "Lets Go Rangers"
mf
Mon May 7 2012 9:05 pm EST
Unbelievable. They insist on giving us a heart attack.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 9:04 pm EST
BRAD RICHARDS again with the BIG GOALS when the team needs it the most... we still need to win this one, the OT Power Play is as good as a time as any... I know I'm asking for a lot but we can't afford to go 3OT Periods...again.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 7 2012 9:03 pm EST
PJ: Keep bitchin brother, dont stop
mf
Mon May 7 2012 9:03 pm EST
Anyone up for 4 tonight?
Rexi29
Mon May 7 2012 9:01 pm EST
I'M SHOCKED
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 9:01 pm EST
Thats for all you non believers LETS GO RANGERS!
tlats
Mon May 7 2012 9:01 pm EST
All my bitching and we score....Yeeeeessssss!
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 9:01 pm EST
The Fuckin Rangers Scored !!! Holy Shit Batman!!
mf
Mon May 7 2012 9:01 pm EST
yes 2
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 9:00 pm EST
I suppose better to lose to the Caps then the Devils
rngrsans
Mon May 7 2012 8:59 pm EST
Be better to leave this round rather than get really embarrassed later on by a better team.
ajurso
Mon May 7 2012 8:57 pm EST
The regular season means nothing!! NO DESPERATION AT ALL
rngrsans
Mon May 7 2012 8:57 pm EST
They are not going anywhere scoring one goal a game....case closed!
ajurso
Mon May 7 2012 8:57 pm EST
Why does Prust even see the ice when we need a goal? Give me a break here....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:57 pm EST
1:55 to go, down by a goal, and our line is Prust-Mitchell-Fedotenko.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 8:53 pm EST
Another wasted year on this bullshit.....Same result....The Rangers thought they could nice guy there way through this series with an inferior team and now they can sit and talk about what coulda been...........If they get booted this year, I am gonna go underground like I did from 1996- 2004 and concentrate on more important things in life than this garbage on the ice.
TradeStar28
Mon May 7 2012 8:51 pm EST
Where is the desperation? Season on the line here....Have to go for it....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:50 pm EST
Whale win! 4-1 in a big game... series tied up at 2. Game 5 is Wednesday night in Bridgeport. (XL Center in Hartford is booked...)
Dineen11
Mon May 7 2012 8:49 pm EST
5 minutes left and they only have 5 shots on goal....pathetic!
ajurso
Mon May 7 2012 8:49 pm EST
We have one line....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:48 pm EST
What we need is Hank to start scoring for us on the PP. Gabby and Co. need help!!! They can't win this series by themselves!!!!!!!!!
RDW
Mon May 7 2012 8:47 pm EST
How about the offense scoring more than 1 goal; you really can't expect your goalie to give up 1 goal or less every game. Let's face it, those 31 shots, how many tough saves did Holtby have to make it.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 8:44 pm EST
Shots on goal 31-16...We needed Hank to play better
rngrsans
Mon May 7 2012 8:42 pm EST
Torts is not playing his young talent...Only the 1 line is playing well
rngrsans
Mon May 7 2012 8:41 pm EST
I love the way this team works but the bottom line is they don't score enough goals. They never seem to have a man in front of the net for any extended period of time. They have all 3 fowards behind the goal line in the offensive zone. It's very hard to score goals from behind the net. They don't screen enough. They don't get enough deflections. They don't get enough rebounds. Everything is dump and chase and chip and chase and reverse and chase. They get alot of puck possession but no chances. And on the rare occassion they get a quality scoring chance they shoot wide.
LetsGoRangers
Mon May 7 2012 8:41 pm EST
Nice job Wideman with the head snap! Refs are lapping up the Caps mangina's
TradeStar28
Mon May 7 2012 8:39 pm EST
Dumb penalty Kreider....We are sinking quickly....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:39 pm EST
This team BETTER dig deep, because if the Rangers lose this game, they will lose this series... 2 goals on 15 shots on goal... pathetic... I don't know what Torts is thinking by playing Kreider limited minutes... it just works into the Caps hands... it just makes us that much more one dimensional.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 7 2012 8:39 pm EST
How about the biggest weakness on the Rangers..the offense.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 8:38 pm EST
Lunquist outplayed by the rookie again
rngrsans
Mon May 7 2012 8:37 pm EST
My God they have just quit....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:36 pm EST
Best penalty killer a good goalie....Hank was not good there....No screen....He missed it....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:36 pm EST
Like I said, overplaying 3 lines and 4 d man have caught up to us. Where is the Captain?
rngrsans
Mon May 7 2012 8:35 pm EST
Caps huge boost from that goal....Rangers better be desperate....If they lose tonight no way they get back here for a game 7...
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:34 pm EST
Well, how many long, unscreened shots have to go off of Hank's glove before we admit it is his weakness?
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 8:34 pm EST
Rangers spend more time behind the net then in front. Go figure! Looks like the CAPS getting their second wind and the Rangers have shot their load.
ajurso
Mon May 7 2012 8:34 pm EST
Lunquist again on his knees for a shot from outside....
mf
Mon May 7 2012 8:32 pm EST
Three people behind the net rarely a good thing...
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:32 pm EST
PJ- Agreed. The differnce is the horrid NYR powerplay and that Holtb's glovehand has been better than Lundqquvists... LEts go Rangers@!
schneidw
Mon May 7 2012 8:31 pm EST
Henrik = weak fuckin' glove.....Rangers suck
TradeStar28
Mon May 7 2012 8:31 pm EST
Done...good night, folks.
NYStranger
Mon May 7 2012 8:31 pm EST
They have outplayed us at our game and the boys are tired...Horrible time management by the coaching staff
rngrsans
Mon May 7 2012 8:30 pm EST
Well I guess this PP thing is going to be our undoing....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:27 pm EST
Rhet0ric, Maybe it's common sense or I am missing something but it seems logical doesn't it?
ajurso
Mon May 7 2012 8:25 pm EST
C'mon now, 20 fuckin minutes, "Pelt the Crap out of the Craps!" "Let's Go Rangers, Lets Go !"
mf
Mon May 7 2012 8:23 pm EST
The Jack Adam's finalist is having a crappy playoff
rngrsans
Mon May 7 2012 8:21 pm EST
We aren't giving up many shots and certainly haven't been forced to block many....Hopefully we are the fresher team in the third....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:20 pm EST
Ajurso... I couldn't agree more... especially on the PP... get Boyle or Kreider in the crease on the damn power play... it'a not rocket science... Great effort, but we have to get better shots on net... what the hell is wrong with MDZ on offense??? ...either he shanks the puck, misses the net or falls down altogether.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 7 2012 8:18 pm EST
Kreider's ice time in a disgrace. Torts has been a moron on this one.
NYStranger
Mon May 7 2012 8:16 pm EST
Bottom line is they are not going to win the Stanley Cup scoring one or two goals a game. Get some bodies in front, screen the freaking goalie and shoot. Second period they only had a 1/3 of the shots on goal compared to the 1st period. And you are right, Calli has been non existent in this one, I think I heard is name twice.
ajurso
Mon May 7 2012 8:15 pm EST
Boyle second on the team for forwards ice time through 2 periods at 13:50. Kreider has 4:42. I guess that Brandon Prust or Fedotenko will have to win this for us while Boyle continues to drag the second line down.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 8:15 pm EST
Plus the Rangers need to purposely shoot a couple hard into the Caps D with the intention to hurt them. Plant some doubt and fear for future body layouts. With as many shots as they have had not a ton have been a serious threat. Even most close in chances have been on the soft side.
NYStranger
Mon May 7 2012 8:15 pm EST
BTW, both MDZ penalties had to be taken due to stupid decisions by the forwards. On the 1st one, BB passed the puck between MDZ and another forward (I think it was AA) and MDZ was caught in no-man's land. On the 2nd, WTF was Mitchell doing? And OMG, how come the Rangers seem to love shooting from the perimeter but when they're in the high slot, they try to pass it off? I don't get it....
RF4L
Mon May 7 2012 8:12 pm EST
Once again the better chances belong to the opposition. I know I should be used to it - it's been the Rangers MO for the entire season, but it's frustrating to watch nonetheless. Gawd, I think I'd rather the Rangers lose to the Caps than the Devils....
RF4L
Mon May 7 2012 8:11 pm EST
Del Zooto has been awful again. How many more missed chances. With th energy expenditure and shots the Rangers need to have scored more.
NYStranger
Mon May 7 2012 8:07 pm EST
Cally not very visible in this one....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:05 pm EST
would love to see kreider and cally back together. cally hasn't had many chances with these linemates
Fotiu22
Mon May 7 2012 8:02 pm EST
Gabby is working his ass off.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 8:01 pm EST
Wishful thinking
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 8:00 pm EST
Do we ever get control of the puck after the point men shoot wide on purpose?....We just give the puck away....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 7:56 pm EST
Rangers Power Play = You would never know it...Go back to shooting everything on net !!!
ajurso
Mon May 7 2012 7:56 pm EST
My 5 year old Grandaughter is more macho than AA.
HamiltonHellhounds
Mon May 7 2012 7:55 pm EST
Its a power play goal !!!
TradeStar28
Mon May 7 2012 7:55 pm EST
Another waste of 2 minutes.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 7:52 pm EST
Bad break on the goal....Keep pushing and get the next one....Absolutely nothing easy with the Rangers....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 7:52 pm EST
as my 4 yr old would say....'ouchie!'
TradeStar28
Mon May 7 2012 7:49 pm EST
so Boyle getting dumped in front with no puck is not interference, hooking or tripping?
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 7:46 pm EST
Fotiu22: The lines aren't static so Kreider will get shifts if he is going. If not?
E
Mon May 7 2012 7:46 pm EST
Caps chances have been a lot more dangerous than ours have.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 7:46 pm EST
Why won't Mitchell shoot anymore?....He actually has a decent shot....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 7:42 pm EST
Or as my friend just texted me..his Hockey IQ matches his number
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 7:41 pm EST
With MDZ, I do wonder if there is anything between the ears.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 7:39 pm EST
del dumbo
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 7:36 pm EST
Eddie O..Big kill for the Caps..not like they had to do much.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 7:31 pm EST
FerociousMonk94----------tHE DUGSTER RUNNING FOR COVER OF THAT SIGHT,,,,,,,,WOW,,,,,
thedugster
Mon May 7 2012 7:29 pm EST
Gaborik did have a couple of bad plays but appears to have his legs tonight.....Hopefully he can get loose and pot a couple....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 7:23 pm EST
as i said- bonehead plays - gaborik leads the team. gave washington a 2 on 1 . then kills the power play. skates puck toward point , brings everyone out - and then passes to point who has zero room ???? i like him shooting - not so much in play making .. and please keep everyone back if he's trying to stick handle in or near his own zone .kreider played ok. a total waste there. mitchell playing well.
doct
Mon May 7 2012 7:22 pm EST
Finally putting pucks on net. Total in first period is close to a whole game. Just keep up the pressure, Caps seem out of sync. Need to score early in second to knock them out of the game completely
ajurso
Mon May 7 2012 7:18 pm EST
MDZ just doesn't cut it on the PP....He sure has a mean streak though....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 7:16 pm EST
Good 1st but they should have more than 1......they love the hard way.....
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 7:12 pm EST
Play a great first period and then take a stupid f'n penalty. killer. need to kill it.
Fotiu22
Mon May 7 2012 7:11 pm EST
I pray the lord we do not get another power play in this game. Lord have mercy. Our PP is a glimpse into the abyss. I'd rather watch Joy Behar with a marital aid.
FerociousMonk94
Mon May 7 2012 7:09 pm EST
they look better when they aren't on the PP......anemic.
Fotiu22
Mon May 7 2012 7:06 pm EST
Rangers PP coming up and I am not expecting much
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 7:05 pm EST
they have to be careful.....caps are getting ovechkin out against bickle every time bick is out there.
Fotiu22
Mon May 7 2012 7:00 pm EST
Seeing eye shot by Stralman.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 6:59 pm EST
That's how you deal with a team blocking a ton of shots.......fake and go around them once they go down. Let's keep it up.....be nice to score 5 in the first!
Fotiu22
Mon May 7 2012 6:59 pm EST
YES
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 6:57 pm EST
STRAWMAN!
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 6:57 pm EST
Throw the puck to the net..you never know what will happen.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 6:46 pm EST
F'n waste having Kreider on the 4th line. As I mentioned earlier, Torts has gone Keenan.
Fotiu22
Mon May 7 2012 6:36 pm EST
DOCT---a text from Andrew Gross.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 6:34 pm EST
And AA better add some muscle in the offseason. They just showed a hit montage and he was on the losing end of every Cap hit
E
Mon May 7 2012 6:32 pm EST
You bust your ass to get the extra game at home. You don't piss it away. This is not just a game, this is THE game. I don't see either team winning back to back if they are down.
E
Mon May 7 2012 6:31 pm EST
if passing mistakes put you on the 4th line , gaborik would be stuck on that unit !
doct
Mon May 7 2012 6:30 pm EST
bob- where did you see these lines ? 2nd has prust ? stepan on third ? kreider on 4th !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow- now they surely won't score more than 1 goal ! you are kidding aren't you ?
doct
Mon May 7 2012 6:30 pm EST
LET'S GO RANGERS.....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 6:28 pm EST
I don't think this game is it, but it sure should be. Rangers played great at home and should take the upper hand on this one...Myself, I've got to find a way to keep everyone on my team from blabbing about the game...why the @#$% do I have to have my own game tonight!?! ..."I told that f@ck down at the league office-- who's in charge of scheduling... I told that kraut a f@cking thousand times I don't roll on shabbas..." LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 6:26 pm EST
LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thedugster
Mon May 7 2012 6:16 pm EST
Bob he changes his lines unless they are clicking.....no big deal, the kid belongs there and maybe on the 2nd pp unit. .....he's earned that with those passing mistakes.........
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 6:09 pm EST
Kreider on the 4th line with Mitchell and Rupp? You must be kidding coach. Stepan, Fedotenko and Boyle on the 3rd line? Ugh.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 6:07 pm EST
This is the series, tonight. Lose tonight and it's over. We need to see all that heart and sacrifice again. The bitches across the Hudson are going to have a nice rest after a 5-game series.
FerociousMonk94
Mon May 7 2012 6:07 pm EST
Puck about to drop in Game 4 for the Whale... they desperately need to win this one. I'll report back later... Missing the Ranger game tonight, so Let's Go Rangers!
Dineen11
Mon May 7 2012 5:20 pm EST
Add me up for the McD PP.
HamiltonHellhounds
Mon May 7 2012 4:58 pm EST
All I am saying is the constant rant about OV from the media is ridiculous...Gaborik has 3 goals in the series and if he is mentioned at all it is to say he isn't getting it done....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 4:46 pm EST
PJ, goals are goals. On the rare occasion we get one, they haven't been all beauties. We wouldn't be knocking long shots that Holtby 'missed'. Ovechkin is a singular threat who doesn't need to be set up. Had a 'bad year' and got 38. I prefer him on the bench while Hunter plays Beagle or whoever else. Hey whatever ... let's just get one more than the Caps tonight and continue the journey!
Nick
Mon May 7 2012 4:37 pm EST
Count me as one who would definitely like to see McDONAGH on the PP. He actually has one of the better shots among Ranger blueliners...maybe even the best one...at least it's a lot more accurate than MDZ. Anyway, Tortorella needs to pull his head out of his ass and start coming up with some answers on the PP. I really don't know why they don't just have big guys like KREIDER and BOYLE parked in front of HOLTBY for them...and can someone explain to me WTF John MITCHELL is doing on the PP? I've done a double take every time I see him out there. It makes ZERO sense.
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 4:36 pm EST
The OV goal on Saturday was a long slap shot that Hank missed....Nothing great about it and nothing great about his play in the series....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 4:34 pm EST
pete - I think ZUBRUS even scored the GWG last night...I know he had a couple goals.
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 4:32 pm EST
Nick - There's a reason the Ovechkin-lead Capitals have never gone far in the playoffs. Certainly, goaltending was an issue for them in the past...but there's also OV. He's a selfish player. Loads of talent and he'll burn you on the man advantage. But selfish. If he's not clicking with the other big names in the lineup(he was on Saturday), he's a liability. Hunter didn't bench him for his health...and contrary to what the nobs at NBC were saying, he didn't do it as some part of a strategy. He did it because OV was sucking pretty bigtime. He was basically a non-entity in the Bruins series as well...Aside from Saturday, the Caps have really been propelled by their lesser players.
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 4:09 pm EST
I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, but man, the evidence is mounting. I will be at the game tonight, and won't be able to handle a loss (and subsquent hour long train ride home), so Rangers NEED to win this.
pete
Mon May 7 2012 3:59 pm EST
No Zubrus was not knocked out of the game....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 3:58 pm EST
I am FLOORED that Giroux got a game and Ovechkin didnt even get a review. Was Zubrus knocked out of the gamre b/c of it?
pete
Mon May 7 2012 3:41 pm EST
So the Flyers will be done and Newark will move on whith Giroux in street clothes. After all the Ed Snider love around the Winter Classic, this is a surprise. It would be amusing if the finals consisted of a team owned by the NHL vs. a bankrupt team bailed out by the NHL. With the contempt they have for the NHL, we can count on ESPN to mention this in their reporting.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 3:24 pm EST
RF4L, your posts are a big part of why I love to read this wall. That being said, there's no need for any anti-semitic BS. Whatever qualifications the next commissioner possesses (or lacks), his ethnicity or religion are off the table. You should know better. Now, back to the ref-bashing.
Rexi29
Mon May 7 2012 3:18 pm EST
MCD also has a nice move around the shot blocker....Very underrated as an offensive D'Man in my opinion....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 3:16 pm EST
Another one wanting McD on the PP..his shot might actually hit the net instead of MDZ'S high and wide shot.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 3:14 pm EST
I don't think McD wants to be out there on the PP. It is so bad, and he can claim it is not his fault.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 3:06 pm EST
HOSPO, you clueless jackass, MDZ doesn't have an especially hard shot at all. I'm all for using McD, been pining for it all year. Not that he's some PP QB, and there are things both MDZ (passing) and Stralman (shot) bring to the table that be might not be as good at, but overall he's a pretty complete package and should at least be tried. As long as its not Staal on the PP, that's always ugly.
chinstrap
Mon May 7 2012 2:52 pm EST
Use MCD on the freaking power play!!! Maybe he doesn't have a howitzer of a shot like DZ and Stralman, but I doubt he would get stuffed and blocked ad nauseum like that...And I would laso trust him to wrist it in quicker then wasting time on a wind up...
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 2:42 pm EST
So preferential treatment for someone other than Sidney Crosby? Imagine that!
RF4L
Mon May 7 2012 2:38 pm EST
Wait -- didn't the league give Ovechkin shit for his 'burning stick' routine? That's typical -- slam a guy's head? Fine. Do a little celebration riff? Report to the principal's office! I thought the stick riff was funny.
Nick
Mon May 7 2012 2:35 pm EST
We're better off with Ovie in the lineup? Come on, man. Don't trot out plus-minus; with few exceptions that stat is bogus. Hunter does us a favor limiting his minutes. 'A couple of goals'? Like, the late winner in one game and the first goal in another? And an inch from the winner in game 3? As for the hit, yeah he should get fined or suspended but I should win the lottery also. And Giroux's was just as bad a head shot. But Ovie could carry a gun out there and this league would look the other way.
Nick
Mon May 7 2012 2:19 pm EST
Gibbo - Wow. Good night, Philly. Can't believe the goddamn Uncle Daddies are going to the conference finals. What a crock.
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 2:18 pm EST
KIS - Simply put and as others said earlier, GIRARDI wasn't injured. If he left the ice, OV might have gotten a hearing. But you're 100 percent right. Giroux's hit wasn't nearly as bad as Ovechkin's. And don't listen to the OV apologists who say he wasn't targeting Girardi's head. Bull shit. Utter bull shit. He was honing in on Girardi to knock him out of the series...but I will say this: Oddly enough, the Rangers are probably better off with Ovechkin in for the Caps than they are with him out. OV is just a liability out there as evidenced by his -2 +/- rating. The Rangers have done a very good job of containing him, even though he's had a couple goals in the series...All of them have come from the outside...anyway...the key for the Rangers is to get their goddamn PP going and no suspension is going to do that for them. I mean, I'm literally mesmerized by how bad it is. The refs are doing us a favor by keeping our chances on the man advantage down.
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 2:06 pm EST
Giroux suspended 1 game per Toronto Globe & Mail's James Mirtle via Twitter
Gibbo
Mon May 7 2012 1:43 pm EST
What a joke!!!!! Giroux has a league meeting for the hit on Zubrius but nothing was done to OV. Freakin OV even left his feet. How can the league justify no meeting on the 2 guys( Neil and OV) that hit Ranger players but everybody else has gotten at least a game suspension. All suspensions have been for 1 game yet the Ranger player (Hagelin) get 3. Buttface is a joke. Shananhan has become one as well.
KIS
Mon May 7 2012 12:59 pm EST
I just looked at Game 4 PHO/NASH..Phoenix had 50,000 viewers; Nashville had 35,000; Even Philly had 41,000; NY 33,000 and Minneapolis 31,000 for that game.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 12:51 pm EST
Well speaking for here in Nashville the large majority of the people I work with couldn't tell you who the Preds are even playing....College football and the Titans is about all that is discussed.....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 12:41 pm EST
time for the gm on down to realize, the way the rounds are going, this year The Cup should be theirs.........send out the memo......WTFU.......take the next 2..........
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 12:40 pm EST
I will now weigh in! Sound the trumpets! :-) Man this place has enough conspiracy theorists to hold a convention. Hey, I don't know what 'agenda' the league has. Big markets should win, small ones; parity; favored owners ... My views are that yeah the refs largely suck, and if you read every team's fan bulletin board you'd see the same posts we write here, only with their own team as the victim. As for boredom: I find it hard to believe the league wants it this way. I blame the coaches and the equipment. While admittedly the NJD don't play their horrible trap game anymore, the coaches took note of it back then and despite some rule cnanges and whatever, defense still rules. Every damn player on every team has to backcheck! Block shots! (Easier with equipment that coulkd withstand shotgun fore at close range; the injuries happen when a puck hits between the pads someplace). Yeah not all players do it; that's sports and individual talent/desire. The you have the goalies with those goddamn bushel-basket 'trappers' that just bug the hell out of me. So I don't know ... I'm rambling here. Revisit the Gainey proposal on shot-blocking that Brooks mentioned; cut down those freaking gloves; go back to felt-and-cloth pads ... then we'll see some shots get through.
Nick
Mon May 7 2012 12:38 pm EST
As far as hockey enthusiasm in LA, there is none. Not on sports radio, not in sports bars or anything. I was at a Buffalo Wild Wings a few nights ago and no one could give a flying fu@k. It's Lakers Lakers Lakers. There are pockets that care but as a city? (insert crickets here)
E
Mon May 7 2012 12:33 pm EST
Hendricks interviewed was asked about the OV hit and asked about the Girardi hit on him and he basically stated, 'Im old school. Girardi caught me in the head. I was seeing stars and my bell was rung but that's hockey to me. I like it when the players play like that. I love it.' ----- I like Hendricks. Good ole hockey player. That stated, he may not care if he gets blasted, and in the scheme of things maybe it hurts a team but it doesn't kill them. Wonder how reactions change if OV is decapitated?
E
Mon May 7 2012 12:22 pm EST
NN--when the Kings got their franchise, experts estimated over 75,000 ex-Canadians living in the LA area as one of the justifying factors for granting the franchise. After experiencing the crappy attendance, Kings owner Jack Kent Cooke said "I think they all left Canada to get away from hockey."
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 12:17 pm EST
The Heat/Knicks game had more than twice the amount of viewers than the Kings game yesterday as the games started 1/2 hour apart. . Kings/Blues had 145,000 viewers in LA; Heat/Knicks had 370,000 viewers.
DOUBLEN
Mon May 7 2012 12:08 pm EST
Out here in sunny SoCal, the Ducks 2007 cup has been a thorn in the side of the Kings fans the way the Islanders were to us all. Kings came into the NHL in 1968 and have never won the cup. They got to the finals the one time, but Gretzky's greatness could not overcome the incompetence of Coach Melrose and the Kings ultra-curved sticks. They could care less who they play if they can get the cup. If it is Kings-Rangers.........it means I will be able to go so I am all for it. They might all be 1-0 games though. Imagine a 7 game series where all the games were shutouts. It would be worse than watching Major League Baseball.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 11:59 am EST
TDCHI - Couldn't disagree more about the trade deadline, depth issues and the luck or inevitability involved, but that's an old argument where we knowwhere each other stands......Bottom line is that our opinions mean didley squat,,,,,results are all that matter, if they fall out now or next round, they should have made changes, if they don't, they did the right thing...,simple as that...As for the LA-NYR Cup finals, here's hoping....Although I don't think too many in LA give a shit...not with Superman Matt Kemp...
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 11:52 am EST
Hospo - the irony is that the two largest markets in the US could also make the finals. I won't say them by name for fear of a jinx, but I'm sure you know whom I speak of...
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 11:51 am EST
Hospo - Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I'm glad the Rangers didn't do any depth moves at the deadline...I think it's dumb luck that we ended up down SAUER, ZUCCARELLO and DUBINKSY...and hopefully we get at least one of those guys back...Next year, this team is going to be REALLY deep, IMO...and with the right assets, not just some hapless rental. Wonder if anyone in the Preds organization is starting to regret the moves they made...Foitu - I just don't see how blasting the refs will make a difference in a positive way...They way I see it is if the Rangers want to make excuses for losing...no matter how well-reasoned they are...they might as well back it in now...Fact of the matter is even when the calls DO go our way, the powerplay is so unbelievably anemic that it doesn't matter anyway...the two things I want to see tonight are more shots on net...no more of this BS fancy-pass garbage. Get the rubber on HOLTBY and then CRASH HIM. That's what the Caps are doing to LUNDQVIST. I can't even count how many times I've watched two-bit hacks like KNUBLE and CHIMERA crash the net. And the other thing I want to see is BOYLE take a run at OV. It's time to put this piece of shit out of commission. Boyle has the size to do it. Line the guy up, ring his bell. And do it EARLY ON. Take him out of the game in the first and the Caps will quickly fold.
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 11:50 am EST
WILD - Cap system and parity and what works means nothing when it comes down to the Conference finals and the Cup finals...What matters is having teams in there that people want to watch..You'll have people in Arizona and NJ watching a potential Devil-Coyote series, nobidy else..
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 11:47 am EST
BOB - True, but it always should have been Cup or bust this year which meant aquiring A d-man and a forward (not Nash) with usable resources...But, hey, they can still do it without paying that prices....The can win the next tweo if they execute...We'll see
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 11:42 am EST
RF4L: You think its bad because the Kings are the 8th seed? Not to the NHL...they would be overjoyed if the Kings made it to the SCF...that gives them the ammo to say their cap system works and there is real parity...they will be able to say they knew it would happen all along.
Wildcard
Mon May 7 2012 11:31 am EST
E - I get it....he was just trying to get something to work but I haven't seen those line combos all year. Granted Dubi is out but I just took them as strange. As far as Sather....could it really hurt the team even more if he takes that damn cigar out of his mouth for one second and blasts Buttman? I hate to complain about the refs as I think the Rangers truly have the better team but the calls are so damn arbitrary.
Fotiu22
Mon May 7 2012 11:30 am EST
Getting to the finals has less to do with the level of talent than it does the shear endurance of a team...Either way, I think the Rangers have both the talent and endurance(depth if you will) to match up well against any team still in this race. And they're going to need it too. Outside of the Capitals themselves, I don't think there's another team out there that drew more difficult opponents...The goddamn Devils drew the dream matchups...playing a weak Panthers team that didn't even belong in the playoffs and now the defenseless Flyers with the most over-rated goalie in professional hockey...Anyway, it's a best-of-three series and as someone mentioned, that favors the Rangers. Good home win tonight and then close out the series Wednesday!
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 11:23 am EST
HOSPO----with the way the playoffs have broken, it is now cup or bust. If we don't get there, it will be a golden opportunity wasted. Was thinking about the fans in Winnipeg today. Too bad they didn't get the old Jets back. They would be on a nice run now.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 11:19 am EST
HOSPO: Just saying that with the quadrillion-illions that Dolan has pissed away I would really like to see some of it pissed away on speaking up. Say it like it is… Someone???
E
Mon May 7 2012 11:17 am EST
FOITU: Nothing was working and not one line was getting consistent pressure. Washington was line matching. So with a short bench Tortorella was looking for some combos that would work.
E
Mon May 7 2012 11:07 am EST
E -That was sarcasm, correct? Or Do we need to go over the NY Ranger and NY Knick FA history? hell, maybe even the Isaih THomas is a good man campiagn also!
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 11:05 am EST
HOSPO: When have the Dolan's been known to waste a dollar on folly???
E
Mon May 7 2012 11:02 am EST
FOTIU - Been saying that since the Orpik Hit on Stepan...Screw this behind doors bullsit, Staher shiould have balsted the leagues, the refs and especially Shanaham at least once or twice for their bias and ineptitude...Team would have appreciated it,,,and whoi cares if slats and Dolan gets fined?
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 10:58 am EST
I actually enjoy Torts as a coach but with the lines he was throwing out there on Saturday, I was having a Keenan flashback. I also think Sather needs to blast the league publicly. Jimmy Dolan has enough cash to pay any fine they might get. Stop being a damn good old boy and stick up for your team. What is going on is criminal. You know what? If the league and ref's come down harder on us because he says something in public, do it again. Embarrass the f out of them. (or maybe the league is just beyond embarrassment.)
Fotiu22
Mon May 7 2012 10:54 am EST
PJ - But the entire Rangers offense and strategy is predicated on winning the boards and keeping the puck in the zone...and cycling......Prust fits right into that..but once the game starts flowing, he isworthless on offense...OTOH, AA gives you some offensive potential but he is so weak and such a wussy at times..........About time Hagelin got on the score sheet...
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 10:48 am EST
Agreed on limiting Prust playing time....He does ok killing penalties but he drags down any line he is on....Can't make a pass or accept one and has been throwing the puck around blindly too often....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 10:48 am EST
Methinks LA will win the cup anyways...that's a decent thing for the NHL, but still looks bad IMO because they were the 8th seed in the west.
RF4L
Mon May 7 2012 10:36 am EST
hospo, oh sorry. I hate that Devils franchise almost as much as pittsburg. Can't believe Uncle Daddy winning another championship.
KIS
Mon May 7 2012 10:35 am EST
Personally, I think a Yotes/Devil cup final would be hilarious. Two boring teams propped up by the league in the league's showcase.....lololol......That followed by another lockout would likely help push more teams to the financial brink and that's exactly what this ineptly run league deserves. Maybe that would be enough to get Phuckman fired and replaced with someone who really understands the game of hockey and how it should be played. Yeah, I know - wishful thinking. I've no doubt that when Phuckman goes, his successor will be another American, likely Jewish, lawyer who's primary motivation is his own salary and bonuses and therefore, his foresight won't be an attribute high on the needs list.
RF4L
Mon May 7 2012 10:11 am EST
KIS -You missed my point...I wouldwant the Devils-Coyotes becasue it would be the worst possible series..the least star powered sereis..and the least watchable and sellable series...What the NHL deserves..
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 10:10 am EST
Torts cant play Prust so much tonight. He cant be a top 9 forward. Prust will score when the leaves fall again. He doesn't even come close. Lately he is slow and hasn't been an influence even in the checking game. No way guys like Hendricks and Chimera should be a bigger influence than Prust but so far they are. Keep Kreider and AA in the top 9. Let prust stay on the 4th line. If anything, give Rupp some more time and tell him to smash a couple of players.and run the goalie
KIS
Mon May 7 2012 10:09 am EST
BOB - Persoanlly, from way back, I saw anything other then a Cup finals, a failure for this year...They were a good team..and they had the resources to get better if they wanted to....But they didn't..Still, even after the Deadline, I thought this team could beat anybody but Pitt in a series..so anything was still possible...it still is...like I said, they can beat all the reamining teams...but all the remaining teams except the FLyers can beat us....Just depends on who gets it done..with or without the help of the Refs
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 10:05 am EST
OLA: What I have issue with in your explanation re: rules is that basically you are advocating two sets of rules. And this is problematic. Players must be held consistently to the same standards of conduct from October to June because the teams need to be conditioned on what to expect. Your reasoning concerns me that it produces the same type of bewilderment that we are currently seeing. Inconsistent standards and the players / fans have no idea where the lines are. It contributes to this ridiculousness that we are seeing in the post season. But more than anything else the most laughable disciplinary moments occurred in the office of Brendan Shanahan where the inability to be consistent is practically criminal. What message are they sending when a blatant head hunt, leaving of the feet, playing the man 3-meters from the puck? Or the myriad of other head scratching no/calls.
E
Mon May 7 2012 10:00 am EST
Hospo, I guess each to their own opinion but I for one do not want 2 teams being helped or run by the league to be in the finals. That would be a complete fuckin joke and for me no need to ever watch hockey again. Might as well just watch the WWE. As for the blocking of shots, the Rangers should start head hunting or shoot the puck into the caps feet. Lets see how much of hero they are then. Boy I hate these fuckin Caps. I wish somebody would take the butt end of the stick into that smirkish cocksucker carlson. What a pussy.Somebody needs to run Holtby tongiht as well. That big bullox Knuble has run into Lundqvist how many times and nothing has been done. If the King doesn't win this series I for one would ship the overated and over paid guy right out of NYC. The Devs are winning with a man on Geritol. The Coyotes are winning with a nobody and LA is winning with a guy making less than half the salary. I say get rid og the king and use the money on resigning players and trying to bring in NAsh and Weber. ( yeah yeah yeah, I know but I got myself heated and needed to vent ) hahahaha I just want the boys to win and Hank needs to lead the way tonight. He needs to get a shut out or no chance for the boys tonight.
KIS
Mon May 7 2012 10:00 am EST
YORK--you are right on. Before the playoffs, I felt like getting to the conference finals would be a successful run, and that we would probably go out to Pittsburgh. The way things have fallen so far, there is an opportunity to win it all this year. Unfortunately, we seem to make these lower seeded teams look better than they are. And, with the way that Newark is playing now, we could go out against them if we get past Washington. Going out to Newark would be a disaster of epic proportions. Seeing them take the cup would also be a disaster. If the Rangers go out, I would pull for a Washington-Phooenix series. Nobody would watch because few care in either of thise markets, and the absolute destruction of the game by these 2 franchises in concert with the referees would make it harder to watch than golf or tennis. Curling is more exciting.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 9:55 am EST
VTRanger - Exactly, the Rangers were always a good team this year that could win a series in the POs..But the east was always wide open and why I wanted to trade for depth to make them even better..give them a good chance of goingalll the way,..All moot...But It is still a good team..and still has the capability of beating every single team in the east ..with the right breaks....But the opposite is true also (except the flyers)....All comes down to execution, attrition/depth, determination and, I hope not too much, special teams..
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 9:50 am EST
Pretty funny. I caught a few intermission reports on NBCSN as well as those babbling bozos on NHL Network (I'm so glad the Blues lost for that Chucklehead Chase and the Hitchcok asskissers-----)...almost every report on the Wash-Rangers series, especially this jerk off Jones, was about the Caps. their fire powere, their great shot blockign defgense and what teh Rangers had to do to stop them....SIlly me, I thought it was tied 2-2 in games with the Rangers going back the Garden and the Home Ice Advantage.....Almost feel like the fan is being sucked out of me....Anyway,....Rangers win, I watch....Rangers lose, I'm done with hockey and it's agendas, incompetent reffing and clusterfuck organizxation and admininstration....Rangers lose, I pray t it's the DEVILS vs PHOENIX in the finals.....All that whining aside, they don't score on the PP, they are done...
Hospo
Mon May 7 2012 9:48 am EST
In reading the many posts following Saturday's loss, there seems to be a feeling among many of us that the Rangers don't quite have the talent yet to win the Cup. I've shared that view at times, but when I look at the teams that are left in this war, I realize that circumstances have created a very special opportunity for this team if they can pull themselves togather. The Caps, the Devils, the Flyers, the Coyotes, the Preds and or the Kings are the only teams that stand between us and the Cup. Cally, Richards, Staal and Hank have to put the war paint on get the boys ready for battle tonight. This war is winnable!!!
VtRanger
Mon May 7 2012 9:43 am EST
Bob - I wish it were that simple...truth is, the refs ARE calling obstruction penalties...when they feel like it. The call on STRALMAN in the first Saturday was a prime example...weak, soft call...but because it was the first, and in a game against the Rangers, it was a call. Of course, pan to the third where the Capitals were basically water skiing off the Rangers and they swallow their whistles. It's a goddamn joke.
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 9:37 am EST
The Show Must Go On ! "" Lets Go Rangers ""
mf
Mon May 7 2012 8:28 am EST
RF4L--once again, the NHL has allowed obstruction to reduce the game to slogging through mud. The Blues-Kings game was like watching paint dry. Goalies have great stats, but face only 20 shots and make a couple nice saves per game. This makes the late penalty calls even more infuriating. If the Rangers had even a mediocre power play, they would be up 3-1 at least.
Bob
Mon May 7 2012 8:20 am EST
PJ - I agree, but that's the reality the Rangers need to live under. The calls aren't and won't go their way...most likely because the Rangers have repeatedly called the league out on its poor officiating. Now the league simply doesn't want to hear it anymore...worst of all, the calls and non-calls are really paying off for the Caps. Each time, it's a momentum shift that ultimately ends with a goal....like the call in the first period...obstruction...really? Looked like a good defensive play to me. But two minutes later, the Caps are up one.
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 8:11 am EST
Twist it any way you want but the non calls against the Caps and the phantom calls against the Rangers late in both of the Caps wins were just horrible....When you have McGuire and Milbury calling the refs out for it you know it isn't just Ranger fans being homers....Also don't see where the Caps are outplaying us 5 on 5 all series either...Far from it in my opinion....Ola...You don't believe the OV hit was intentional? You should work for the league....
PJ
Mon May 7 2012 8:04 am EST
all i can say is, they better make it passed the 2nd round.....get r done.......
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 7:34 am EST
RF4L - Totally disagree. Counting up the 15-plus periods I've watched so far, the only one that I could say the Caps really dominated was the first period on Saturday. Rangers had the edge in just about every other one...This series reminds me a bit of the 2008-2009 matchup between these teams...only the rolls are reversed. The Rangers are a better constructed team all around. The Caps are a shallow team that need their superstars to rescue them from their lack of depth. Those guys don't fire on all cylinders, the Caps lose...I'll also mention at this point the Rangers are missing one of their top line players...make no mistake, the Rangers miss DUBINSKY bigtime.
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 7:25 am EST
TD: If the Rangers are' the better team all around and in every category EXCEPT the PP' how come they are once again, being out-played more often than not than their opponent? Holtby stood on his head against the Bruins, but has so far had it easy against the Rangers. I can't think of a single save he's made in any of the 4 games that comes remotely close to the 1/2 dozen (or more) Lundvqist has had to make in every game. IMO, the Rangers are lucky it's not 3 games to 1 for the Caps...
RF4L
Mon May 7 2012 7:17 am EST
One call(or non-call rather) no one has discussed is when KNUBLE, for the umpteenth time, bowled over LUNDQVIST for a goal that was later disallowed. The fact that they even reviewed the goal is pathetic, when the REAL call should have been goaltender interference. They NEEDED to make that call to wave off the goal...until one of the retarded refs said he blew the play dead before the puck went in. But BROOKS it 100 percent right. When the powerplay is as bad as it's been ALL SEASON LONG, it's not like they're gonna get goals with the man advantage...so really it comes down to beating the Caps at 5-on-5, which they simply couldn't do Saturday...but I have faith they're going to pull this one off. I don't care who is on Washington's roster...the Rangers are the better team all around and in every category EXCEPT the PP...speaking of which...can we PLEASE dress ZUCCARELLO Monday? I kind of feel like the last time the Rangers scored on the PP was his last game six weeks ago.
tdchi
Mon May 7 2012 7:16 am EST
BTW, Stepan had a great final 2 games against Ottawa, but has disappeared again I see....
RF4L
Mon May 7 2012 7:16 am EST
LB reports today an interesting stat: The Rangers in the 3rd period and OT's have had 14 PPs and have scored but once in those opportunities. What some of us have been saying for weeks here (even before the POs started) could be coming to realization: You'll have a very tough tiime going deep in the POs with a lousy PP. This is especially acute given the blocked shots league the NHL is rapidly evolving into (I think devolve is a more appropriate term, actually).
RF4L
Mon May 7 2012 7:02 am EST
it's the pp stupid....".....Penalty calls throughout the playoffs have been arbitrary, never more so late in games. But the fact is that the Rangers have been awarded 14 power plays in the third period and overtime while their opponents have been awarded seven, and the further truth is that the Blueshirts are 1-for-14 and the opposition is 2-for-7. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/rangers_out_to_score_big_win_P9WINDcZdhiui3tv0Qpz3M#ixzz1uBVT7KK3
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 7:01 am EST
"..........There have been few individuals over the course of NHL history with a better understanding of defensive principles, work ethic and commitment to winning than Bob Gainey. Yet envisioning the path down which the league was heading, he introduced a rule at the general managers’ meeting in October 2008 that would have required players to have at least one skate blade on the ice in order to legally block a shot. An idea ahead of its time was laughed down and has never been resurrected. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/rangers_out_to_score_big_win_P9WINDcZdhiui3tv0Qpz3M#ixzz1uBUzEm2W
stevielegs
Mon May 7 2012 6:53 am EST
Whale dropped Game 3 of their series last night, 4-3. I'll try to post some thoughts later... Here are some highlights for your viewing pleasure: http://youtu.be/yMOzXAVriEU Game 4 is tonight in Hartford.
Dineen11
Mon May 7 2012 6:29 am EST
Since Neil was not suspended, I definitely do not think that AO should be suspended. Neil did what he did purposely. All the way. AO chased a puck into/across the top of the circle, an area of the ice you can get killed in, with his head down basically, and when he noticed that a D was in his way he did what he did in the split of a second. If it was more of a extreme jump or an elbow or something, I think a suspension would be worthy. But not for that in the PO's. I don't know about Giroux either. A game in the regular season would be warranted, but in the POs? I don't know.
Ola
Mon May 7 2012 12:23 am EST
Dineen11, as our resident Hartford reporter....what is the latest on the play of Tim Erixon, JT Miller, and Dylan McIlrarth?
TradeStar28
Mon May 7 2012 12:15 am EST
NHL is going to miss a golden opportunity to really send the message to all that head-shots are not going to be tolerated. Both Ovechkin and Giroux should sit out a game for clear attempts to injure opponents. Will this happen? Probably not, but if it was Crosby rather than Zubrus we would never hear the end of it!
Topovski
Sun May 6 2012 11:39 pm EST
Flyers own writers pretty brutal: "You kept waiting for Giroux to make his mark on this second-round series, to take out his frustration on the New Jersey Devils. But an indefensible cheap shot from behind was not exactly what anyone had in mind. Giroux's sneak attack on Dainius Zubrus pretty much summed up where the Flyers are in this series. They can't skate with the Devils, can't outsmart the Devils, can't outhustle the Devils. They are frustrated and incapable of turning this thing around."
Nick
Sun May 6 2012 10:44 pm EST
the rules become more subjectively called as the season and the playoffs progress, and they degenerate into confusion and bias. the refs decide the outcome of too many games. maybe they are betting on them , or are getting paid off, or instructed by the nhl. . ....little credibility. .....very unprofessional.......now the 4 jerks can't call a delay of game with 8 eyeballs........guess they need glasses or brains.....pheonix and the debbies are just what the nhl who basically owns those teams needs and wants.....they are not rooting for the NYR.......
stevielegs
Sun May 6 2012 10:28 pm EST
RF...Kis...agreed this style of "Hockey" blows! If the Rangers go out I most likely won't watch......totally boring unless one of the teams playing is yours. Tonight's Devils Flyers game had a classic example.....devils player comiing down bear Coburn (I think) was getting held and then hocked righ tin front of the Ref and the color guy is going "...he didn't want to call that untill Coburn hocked him..."...yeah the Arnold Skolan face rake wasn't enough. That's the state of hockey under Buttman!
MelvilleFred
Sun May 6 2012 10:23 pm EST
Nick....you're getting way ahead of yourself.......we have to win 2 out of the next 3 (as do the Caps). Can't be worried about the Devils. Ranger Graham....welcome...new t the board? Wish we had Nash in our lineup right now.....my Daughter, god bless her, is going yet again to the Garden for tomorrows game. Maybe she'll bring the mluck since I won't be there with her. NYR7....I was in Sec. 335 for th egame. Tried to walk over to 315 between the 2nd and 3rd but the walkway was blocked.........
MelvilleFred
Sun May 6 2012 10:14 pm EST
RF, something that i agree with you about. I hate this brand of hockey. There is so much interference going on again ithas changed the game. there is no nice flow to the game. I don't mind hard play but the shit some teams are getting away with and the dirty play sucks. Not a fan. tired of the league trying to make everybody equal.
KIS
Sun May 6 2012 10:00 pm EST
Re lousy hockey: The stupid league and their phuckman like backwardsness has meant gone from the POs are Detriot, Pittsburgh, Vancouver and Chicago, all teams that skate and score. Nice job Phuckman and Cantaham and the rest of you incompetent idiots....
RF4L
Sun May 6 2012 9:58 pm EST
Nick: Apparently, NJ outshot the Flyers something like 40 to 20. Wow....
RF4L
Sun May 6 2012 9:57 pm EST
After watching that Ranger special last night it is amazing that Fatso is still playing....
PJ
Sun May 6 2012 9:56 pm EST
KIS: Once/if the Rangers are done, so am I. The brand of hockey most teams are playing, the Rangers included, is all about reducing chances, primarily the oppositions, but inevitably, when you do that, you compromise you're own creativeness. It's crappy entertainment, unless you're a fan of the 1 of the teams. It's what happens when you don't enforce the rules. Hockey's a wonderful game when played without headshots, punches and scrums after the whistle, goalies with transformer sized equipment, interference galor and incompetent officiating. Alas, all of the above Phuckman and company seem to believe sells...
RF4L
Sun May 6 2012 9:55 pm EST
Fatso allowed to play the puck outside the 'zoid. His birthday and all. But the Flyers were spoiled by the epically bad pay of the Penguins. They're falling apart. And it's not the fault of the Bryz.
Nick
Sun May 6 2012 9:49 pm EST
Coyotes D Rostislav Klesla suspended one game for hit from behind against Preds...It's not that they aren't still reviewing hits but they just can't be against a Ranger....This league sucks....
PJ
Sun May 6 2012 9:35 pm EST
Don't feel good about the game tomorrow night. willing to eat crow if they win but I don't see it especially the way the refs are calling the game. How the hell can OV check on girardi not even get looked at. Its amazing especially with the emphasis the network has put on head shots. the league is a sham
KIS
Sun May 6 2012 9:31 pm EST
If Phoenix and the Devils get into the finals I don't think I will watch hockey anymore. How can 2 teams helped and run by the NHL be the 2 best teams in the league. If you have now money you shouldn't have assets to be 2 of the 4 best teams in the league. Sell some of the good players not pick up and sign pieces.
KIS
Sun May 6 2012 9:26 pm EST
I am glad to see we are heading home for 2 of 3 games.Game 5 will be huge. Watching as we move deeper into the playoffs , what we lack is forward depth and forward grit. A few pickups at the trade deadline would have helped. What I like is we have a top notch goalie and 4 top quality defence. I think we will make it through but that first goal tomorrow is critical.
RangerGraham
Sun May 6 2012 9:23 pm EST
RF4L....Actually Halak was the other goalie for the Blues and both he and Elliot were very good during the season and Halak got hurt in the playoffs....They had scoring spread out with seven players with 15 goals or more and Backes led with 24.....I didn't know how they were doing it either but they were very difficult to play against during the season and almost unbeatable at home...They smoked the Rangers in the one meeting we had....Kings are on fire....
PJ
Sun May 6 2012 9:21 pm EST
Devils up 3 games to 1.
Tucc
Sun May 6 2012 9:14 pm EST
Any team looks great when they win but the NYR are gonna have it tougher than I figured if the Devils clinch this thing. They forechecked Philly to death. Our d-men are better -- I think -- but not that much. Anyway unless we bring some offense tomorrow night it's not gonna matter.
Nick
Sun May 6 2012 9:13 pm EST
Devils up 3 games to 1.
Tucc
Sun May 6 2012 8:53 pm EST
Reality finally hits with the Blues. Since Hitchcock took over that team massively overachieved (which isn't a criticism), led by journeyman goalie Brian Elliot. This is a good team, not by any stretch of the imagination a great team and as good as the Kings might be, going out in the 2nd round should be considered by that organization after all the dust settles as progress. We complain about the Rangers lacking top forward skill - the Blues don't have anyone to match either Richards or Gaborik. Andy MacDonald is good, but at best a 2nd line center. Who is their goal scoring winger? Well, no one - they don't have such a thing. Don't be surprised if next season (if there is one) they struggle to make the POs.
RF4L
Sun May 6 2012 4:55 pm EST
BTW, did anyone see the horse that Torts probably picked in the Kentucky Derby? "Done Talking"
ColoradoMark
Sun May 6 2012 4:45 pm EST
Blues have been swept.....Hard to believe....The Kings a #8 seed and have knocked off the #1 and #2 seed with an 8-1 record....WTF
PJ
Sun May 6 2012 4:09 pm EST
And Milbury hates the Rangers....
PJ
Sun May 6 2012 2:16 pm EST
Milbury commented today on NBC about the terrible non calls against the Rangers. Said the NHL can't allow this type of ref to exist in play off competition.
Louie
Sun May 6 2012 12:09 pm EST
This is twice now Carlson was able to draw late game penalties....In the second game he initiated the contact with Richards and yesterday he threw his stick down like it was on fire after a tap from Hagelin....Somebody needs to give this little prick something to complain about....The explanation from OV for the hit on Girardi is so ridiculous that it confirms he did it intentionally....Love this team but despise the NHL.....
PJ
Sun May 6 2012 11:13 am EST
and murder........http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2140287/Kentucky-Derby-2012-death-Dead-body-stable-close-Ill-Have-Another-kept.html
stevielegs
Sun May 6 2012 11:09 am EST
any doubt nbc wanted that game to end close to 3 pm, to show 3 hours of pre derby nonsense? I'm sure their ads were more expensive, than during the cult hockey game. Any national anthemn? ....plenty of hat talk.......the NYR just helped get that game to end near 3pm, with the refs . Guess the refs know the NYR PP was less likely to score than the craps. ....so blow that whistle when it helps........and no Saturday night hockey in Canada, thanks to the buttman/nbc wisdom...... 1230-3pm is their marketing concept.......get it over with.......not having logic.....nhl.....
stevielegs
Sun May 6 2012 10:06 am EST
"Rangers coach John Tortorella had a thing to say about momentum yesterday, which was interesting since his postgame observations consisted of exactly 11 words. Ten of them were these: “Their power play. They gained momentum from their power play.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/lack_and_blue_gfVp1GwbiFQCHRCxcuAtHK#ixzz1u6PHpLYG
stevielegs
Sun May 6 2012 9:53 am EST
Wow, LB gushing madly over Brodeur in his slapshots column...lol...
RF4L
Sun May 6 2012 7:01 am EST
Okay The Caps are playing Hunter style hockey anyone who remembers this clown remembers this is exactly his M.O. cheap dirty hockey, on a side note anyone notice the fat hunter looks exactly like the dad from Mark Wahlbergs the fighter LOL.......Krieder okay this is three times this kid passed the puck into the middle when he shouldn't have once was in the offensive zone so it's not a completely bone head move despite the time in which it happened; yesterday was no excuse just stupid hockey rule number one never pass the puck blind into the middle in your own end hockey 101. I wouldnt have benched him I would have lit him up in the locker room in front of his team to force him to go out and make up for it. Benching him was stupid. The problem right now is Torts is being equaled in terms of his system and isn't sure what to do he has no back ups. You need a backup even the Rangers in 94 had one thanks to FON.
York18
Sun May 6 2012 2:11 am EST
Mike "Rupper" Rupp has been "irrelvant" since the Winter Classic
TradeStar28
Sun May 6 2012 1:58 am EST
Just throwing this out there......Carkner was able to jump Boyle for a few gloved shots on Karlsson and only get a game. Mind as well jump Ovechkin and lose Rupp for a game. Makes sense to me....
RDW
Sun May 6 2012 1:39 am EST
One last post about ovechkin hit on girardi.....Prust was not only on the ice but was a few feet away from the spot of the hit and saw it in fulll motion....How the fugg does Prust not go after ovechkin? The Rangers team is pansified by Torts.....honestly.....Prust shoulda went right at ovechkin, worse case he gets a roughing minor but atleast it sends a goddamn message to the Craps....an eye for an eye.......Someone needs to send the rangers a copy of the Old Testament ASAP!!!!!! and a copy of this link , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ix_qWmZW54
TradeStar28
Sun May 6 2012 1:20 am EST
Anyone see the new movie "Avengers" this weekend? I would love to see someone Hulk-slam Ovechkin right through the freakin ice surface........Turn that cheap fugg into a pile of dust......The Craps are trying to hurt the Rangers top defenders (Girardi, McDonut and Staal)......Reminds me of that bullshit that the craps did with Donald Brashit on Blair betts in the playoffs when the Rangers were up in the series and that changed the whole outcome.....
TradeStar28
Sat May 5 2012 11:54 pm EST
Fred, Top -- I thought I was the only one! Team Canada was a disgrace once it sunk in they were in an actual series. Hockey-wise they hadn't trained and were missing Orr and Hull; but the USSR were equal in talent and that came as a shock. I'll never forget Frank Mahovljch holding Tretiak down for ten seconds in that 4th game. The Soviet powers didn't have much class either. All in all an amazing thing.
Nick
Sat May 5 2012 11:50 pm EST
Rangers gotta figure out a way to slay the Caps dragon in the playoffs....That is the bottom line.......This aint the Chicago Bulls with Jordan we are talking about.......Ovechkin and the Caps are beatable, the Rangers are a better all around squad. No excuses.......Yeah the officiating sucked but the great teams will always find a way to win.
TradeStar28
Sat May 5 2012 11:49 pm EST
Hospo, I agree with you after the Rangers win the cup this year I will not be spending another dime or any of my time watch NHL hockey. This league is run by morons. The Rangers should start another league with real refs and announcers. The NHL is the worst run and worst officiated sport and they call themselves a Pro league. What a bunch of BS!
Jerry_Garcia
Sat May 5 2012 11:47 pm EST
Hey whats up NYR7....I see you made the trip down to DC.....I was gonna drive up (i live in NC now) with the family but glad i didnt because of the outcome of the game....I hope all is well with you....Hopefully we meet up in June @ MSG $-)
TradeStar28
Sat May 5 2012 11:26 pm EST
I never got to see the games, I have heard stories about it, so I was very interested in this documentary. There were some likeable characters on Canada's team like Henderson, Mahovlich, Gilbert...but Espo (who I absolutely hated as a ranger in every capacity he had with the team) and Clark struck me as abhorrent human beings.
Topovski
Sat May 5 2012 11:22 pm EST
just got back from Washington ..long ride home following that game.....THE Ovechin hit was a disgrace clearly left his feet and forgot all about the puck and launched himself into GIRARDI... i will say the CAP fans are f33kin clueless about this franchise... i was sitting next to this guy who claims to be a lifelong CAPS fan and he didnt even know who John Druce was... pathethic....must be a short lifer say became a fan in 06 /07' when OVIE arrived.....didnt see the RANGER VICTORY SHOW yet will probably buy it this week .... for if anyone is interested i put my own RANGER Video together back in 94' ..EVERY GOAL BIG HIT BIG SAVE IS ON THIS VIDEO.. I EVEN GAVE A COPY TO ADAM GRAVES a couple of years ago.... i'll be at the game on monday...we need a win... LTR..
NYR7
Sat May 5 2012 11:18 pm EST
USSR...one to many "S"s
MelvilleFred
Sat May 5 2012 11:17 pm EST
Topovski....I'm with you....I was openly rooting for the good old USSSR!
MelvilleFred
Sat May 5 2012 11:07 pm EST
Just finished watching the documentary "Cold War - 1972 Summit Series". I know I will take a lot of crap for saying this but Canadians should be ashamed of what their team did. It was a disgraceful and down right criminal behavior. They got schooled in their own invention and didnt like it so they gooned it up. Bobby Clark should have been banned from any hockey for life. Pathetic!
Topovski
Sat May 5 2012 9:56 pm EST
NN- Pour one for me... watermelon margarita sounds delicious..
schneidw
Sat May 5 2012 9:41 pm EST
That was a great program. I'll never forget those games. I'm surprised I survived it ... two hellish months. Also ... there's a new Summit Series documentary in right now on NBCSN. An incredible story. I still remember that opening shocker in Montreal, and the amazing events that followed.
Nick
Sat May 5 2012 9:16 pm EST
I think the special captured a lot of why that cup win was far bigger then just a "normal" championship. A sports fiction writer couldn't write a more epic story. Nothing that the NYR do now could be greater. But what I am thrilled about is that while that team was hell pressed to win A cup, this NYR team has positioned itself with talent and maturity that they should be able to be in the hunt for the next 5-6 years at least.
E
Sat May 5 2012 9:06 pm EST
NN....Was emotional watching the special also...That was awesome and well put together....It really captured the emotion of that time....I jumped up when they showed the Matteau goal....Many years have passed but what a glorious time....Hope some of today's Rangers were watching....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 8:53 pm EST
I am watching the special on the NHL Network and am getting very emotional as I was in the building for every home playoff game..or it could be the watermelon margarita I am drinking.
DOUBLEN
Sat May 5 2012 8:51 pm EST
....you know...I just can't care as much as I do about this franchise...I'm going to have a Heart Attack soon.....literally....1 F'in CUP in 72 years.....and for some reason we're all in on this team to win the CUP this year....If I take a step back in my heart of hearts I know this team does not have enough talent or scoring to win this year. I just need to remember that for this series and if there is a next one.....
MelvilleFred
Sat May 5 2012 8:25 pm EST
Rangers in 6! Next........
MelvilleFred
Sat May 5 2012 6:21 pm EST
Special on NHL network tonight at 8:00 EST....Road to Victory....Story of the New York Rangers.....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 5:54 pm EST
RHET - Withoiut a doubt....The poor first period was old news by the time the game was tied 2-2, but it still happened and a goal ahppened....BUt wihtou the poor 1st period and without the total clusterfuck of two PPs and one crappy PK, they win this game...Oh well, SCREW the Caps, SCREW the NHL and SCREW the REFS.....just play Ranger hockey from start to finish and win on Monday....BUt I'll be damend if some of me doesn't want...OV in a mangled mess of blood and cartilidge from a "clean" hit....It's not the player it't the god damn rinky dink bull shit league....
Hospo
Sat May 5 2012 5:44 pm EST
The lack of punishment for Ovechkin is nothing shy of a completely asinine travesty. Absolutely ridiculous.
E
Sat May 5 2012 5:42 pm EST
…but I'll state this: the NYR did not deserve that game. They were not good enough. Nowhere near good enough to warrant a victory.
E
Sat May 5 2012 5:41 pm EST
I with 90% certainty know that there is no fixing to the games. That stated, the problem is just this inability to find any kind of consistency. The ref's are over controlling the game. At almost anytime in heated games there is tick tack BS going on. You can't just let something go and then arbitrarily decide that it is egregious suddenly and without warning. It makes it impossible on the players. Make a decision. If you are going to call things, then call everything. I've advocated this forever already. The pace of the game requires a 3rd referee. This one off of the ice. No officiating is perfect but one thing I always liked about the NFL is that sometimes a flag is thrown, the refs meet, the flag is picked up, the ref calls out that there is no penalty and play continues. The NHL is a completely unique sport. It has an extensive rule book. And most rules are good ones. But the speed and the pace of the game just cannot be adequately called on the ice. And at no time has this been more evident then this season. I can harp on almost every single series where GAME CHANGING infractions were either called wrongly or not called at all. Look at what Nashville went through?
E
Sat May 5 2012 5:24 pm EST
Rhet...Agreed....What type of period did the Caps have in the second?...How long till their first shot?....Monk....Watched the replay about 10 times now and I can't see that Callahan dove on that play....Also replayed Knuble batting the puck out and it was a clear penalty....Sorry folks we were hosed....Not sure how Hank didn't see the Green shot but he says he didn't....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 4:55 pm EST
Per Katie Strang... "Multiple sources indicate that Ovechkin will not have a hearing on hit. Wouldn't blame Rangers for being upset on this one" ... not even a hearing... that's what make the NHL a total joke... HOSPO... I agree with you about the first period, but we still almost survived the period without giving up a goal... I still don't know how Lundqvist flubbed that one... it wasn't a great shot by any means... but because we had a lousy first period, it does not mean that we deserved to lose the game.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 4:29 pm EST
...I'd like to believe that, but it didn't look to me like a real trip, and it seemed he could have cleared that puck.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 5 2012 4:27 pm EST
EVETS,
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 5 2012 4:26 pm EST
The game had a weird feel to it ,in the first period the Rangers didn't look to excited to be playing. The Krieder give away was horrible and Hank wasn't Hank tonight. The Rangers will still win the series in 7. It's a best of 3, and 2 are in our barn. Will be wild at the Garden when the Rangers close this one out at home.
barto
Sat May 5 2012 3:43 pm EST
Hospo- Yeah, I agree. We just screw up. Those early goals cost you. Was sense that they are playing a team that don't have controll. We loose confidence. When we try to roar out of the gates, we loose composure. When we try to shut things down, we make big misstakes. Maybe it's me watching all these losses, but I just got a bad feeling right now of the confidence of this team, cause I think in terms of talent we should beat this Caps team in 4-5 games. Only Backstrom is really challenging our Ds.
Ola
Sat May 5 2012 3:39 pm EST
I meant to say that the Rangers did not loose this game for themselves. The outcome was dictated by subpar officiating. This game should have ended on a legitimate hockey play, not on a series of terrible calls and non-calls. MONK... I don't think Callahan dives there. Knowing who he is as a player, I don't believe that he takes that risk in this situation.
evets1980
Sat May 5 2012 3:35 pm EST
PJ... I couldn't agree with you more. The Rangers did not loose this game. It's one thing that Hagelin was called for something that was committed by one of the caps moments earlier, but you HAVE to call that trip on Callahan. If Callahan is allowed to play the puck, that puck is out of the defensive zone, not on Mike Green's stick and not in the back of the Rangers' net. Terrible officiating at the end of the game. Embarrassing. AND.... I am sure the is NO chance that Ovechkin gets any supplementary discipline.
evets1980
Sat May 5 2012 3:33 pm EST
PJ, I told you what happened on the Green goal. Callahan tried to be clever and draw a penalty. It's one of his very few bad plays in the POs, but one of the worst I can ever recall of a captain. The Rangers clearly think puck clearing is overrated and for the less inclined. They also think 2-minute power plays are 10 minutes, and slow and futile is better than fast and lucky. The team may have boatloads of heart (although they left it on the ice Wed night and forgot to take it with them), but no one will mistake them for a Mensa meeting. Least of all that 12-million dollar wordsmith Brad Richards.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 5 2012 3:31 pm EST
Kreider one shift in the third? On this offensively-challenged team? Nice job, Torts. Join the Marines and be a drill sergeant. For now? Play your best guys for Christ's sake. Teach 'lessons' in November against Edmonton. Not now.
Nick
Sat May 5 2012 3:30 pm EST
Agreed the Rangers had a bad first period....All starting with the lazy penalty by Stralman....The Caps then had a horrendous second period themselves...The third was close until the refs decided to get involved....Don't care what anyone says the last ten minutes were a disgrace and sorry but the Rangers or any other team left aren't good enough to overcome the bad calls....Even playing field in the third I feel we win this game...
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 3:23 pm EST
The reffing and NHL agenda against the Rangers aside, the Rangers TOTALLY DESERVE to lose...Totlly unprepared for the first period -both coach and all players-- and a totally incompetent, momentun-stopping, life-sucking power play..And then the Caps score easily on theirs....No more analysiis needed even if the Rangers played good at times in the 2nd......The agenda by the ref, announcers and the leagus against the Rangers just boggles my mind since this pathetic piece of shit league needs the Rangers so bad....Yeah, I want the Rangers to win but part of me doesn't care if they lose so I don't have to waste a second watching the worst run and worst offciated sport out there..
Hospo
Sat May 5 2012 3:04 pm EST
bottom line the NYR didn't need the refs help in losing the game, they were almost doing it on their own, from the goalie to behind the bench........and beyond.......
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 2:58 pm EST
Hunter says we messed up the second goal because we thought is was icing....Ok and your D doesn't have to touch the puck you jackass....Says OV hit was incidental contact and both players had their heads down...Sad part of it is the league will probably say the same thing...
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 2:53 pm EST
OVECHKIN claims he hit Girardi because he thought Girardi was going to hit him first... See? He was just protecting himself... Per Chris Botta... "From what I'm hearing, don't expect an Ovechkin suspension."
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 2:53 pm EST
Nick.... Agreed on Hank....He can't just match the play of Holtby but must be better....Like it or not as Hank goes so go the Rangers....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 2:51 pm EST
the coach needs to direct his anger at himself, his assistant and his TEAM, and get a win on Monday, and another to end this series.....
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 2:49 pm EST
Stralman with 17 minutes and Bickel with 7....Sorry but Bickel was better today....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 2:48 pm EST
RF4L that means to him he's a genius........he had Stamkos too......a legend in his own mind........he should go after Nash, I know a couple of guys he can trade, plus some picks......
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 2:47 pm EST
Torts too pissed to stay in the postgame with reporters...Gets up and walks out....Keenan criticizes him for it....Not sure I do as if he stays and says something about the officiating he would be out another 20 large.....Maloney says OV being suspended a no brainer and it should have been a 5 minute penalty....Will never happen IMO....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 2:47 pm EST
And Kreider gets 1 shift in the 3rd for the giveaway, that Hank absolutely botched. Tell me the kids speed and puck pursuit wouldn't have made a difference in the 3rd period? Nice coaching Torts, you sure showed him...
Tucc
Sat May 5 2012 2:44 pm EST
Agreed the Caps and playing well and did knock off the defending champs. So if we lose, it's not like we lost to Columbus or something. But still, if you're gonna win, you have to play better down the line, and that includes Hank. Now, he saved three goals in the first period so I'm not gonna roast the guy, but he MUST outplay a guy who was in the minors all year, and we MUST pressure Holtby enough to expose him if he has weaknesses. Hey I don't know ... I'm out of the prediction business after this post-season across the league. My health blows and my last old cat has three months to live so fuck it all anyway. (There's a happy note to end on). But I'm pushing for the NYR to prevail and always will.
Nick
Sat May 5 2012 2:42 pm EST
And will say this - yes the officiating sucked (again) but once again the Ranger pop-gun offense was their undoing. The King made in the 2nd and 3rd periods, 4 or 5 superb saves. Holtby nary a one. All from the outside. Yes, good positioning on a couple that bounced thru but nothing like Lundvqist had to face. As said before, no wonder Sather went hard after Rick Nash. It's games like these where he'd make a difference, without a doubt.
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 2:39 pm EST
God, how I hate it when the refs help determine the outcome of a game. What a sham! Knuble knocked that damned puck over the glass, NBS shows a replay and all the idiot announcer says is, "You could see Knuble reacts immediately to say it went off the Ranger"....SO WHAT!? IT DIDN'T GO OFF THE RANGER!! Trip on Callahan....hellyes! Interference/holding on Girardi preventing him from getting out to block a shot after a rebound...no call. All that being said, I'll say this again...if we don't get the PP working, we can forget about winning the Cup. We had chances to take the lead on the PP and did nothing. Now we'll see if the NHL has the guts to suspend Ovie. I doubt it. He ignores the puck to zero in on Girardi's head amd lifts up his front leg to raise his shoulder to head level. He should be suspended.
JFC31
Sat May 5 2012 2:38 pm EST
My biggest bug, beside the calls, is the Rangers lack of puck control. No sustained attack becasue of it, and when they do forcheck all the pressure is along the boards/ corners and rarely draw penalties or create good scoring chances. Caps definately have shown better puck control in this series and that is concerning.
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 2:29 pm EST
You can't convince me otherwise...the NHLwants these games going to 7. The NHL is all about money, nothing else. I went to the Winter Classic in Philly and they had teh ROOTS playing. The Roots, are you friggin kidding me? I don't care if they are from Philly, 99.9% of people that purchased tickets don't want to hear the Roots. It's all about expanding the fan base to make more money. Money, that's it.
jkropp
Sat May 5 2012 2:27 pm EST
2 goals on unscreened slap shots from above the circles. Unusual for sure, and not good. The officiating was absurd. We had guys held and hooked along the boards, interfered with on the forechecking and sticks slashed out of hands. We sat for those infractions, and Washington did not. Then the glove punch out of play was the biggest joke of all.
Bob
Sat May 5 2012 2:26 pm EST
You make fine points Nick but 999 out of 1000 the ref will call a trip to even up play if it's against a team on the PP...bad, bad non call that led to a scoring chance/goal
jkropp
Sat May 5 2012 2:26 pm EST
Nick...That Hershey Bears goalie knocked out the defending Cup champions....Like it or not the Caps are playing good right now....Hard to overcome bad calls....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 2:24 pm EST
Hey I know the refs blow but what else is new? At some point you gotta get it done. If we lose this thing we just got beat ... no grand conspiracy because 'everyone hates us.' We simply don't have the offensive goods to go all the way. We have basically three guys who can consistently finish, four counting Kreider it would appear, and a collection of plumbers. And yeah they work like hell and you can't win without 'em and all that ... but you have to bury the chances because they don't come that easy.
Nick
Sat May 5 2012 2:24 pm EST
Turn on the MSG postgame....They asked Callahan if he was tripped on the winning goal but he wouldn't go there...Said it doesn't matter now...Wouldn't expect him to make excuses as he is all class...Hank said he has to have the first one but didn't see the other two....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 2:23 pm EST
Caps/refs 3 Rangers 2
jkropp
Sat May 5 2012 2:19 pm EST
nick it wasn't the planes that killed kong.......it was Callihan getting tripped so Green could score........the betterTEAM will win this series.....THE NYR........
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 2:18 pm EST
I can't wait, Stevie, I can't wait...
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 2:17 pm EST
i have an opinion on del zotto and dubinsky, but i'll save it until the playoffs are over....and The Cup comes to NYC in spite of nbc & the nhl.........
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 2:16 pm EST
No post game so we can watch 3 plus hours of Derby "pre game". Total disgrace!!! NBC is shameful on all levels.
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 2:16 pm EST
Refs this, refs that, NBC, blah blah blah. Kill the fucking penalty and maybe get a power play goal? Or any freaking goal against a Hershey Bears goalie? We got torched in the first period after the big 'emotional' win the other night. Yeah, tied with six minutes to go. Loss. Another damn 6-7 game series.
Nick
Sat May 5 2012 2:13 pm EST
Hard being critical of henrik, but one awful goal and another soft one and that was the game. Officiating is about as comical as it gets. I can't ever remember a time in when it was worse.
Tucc
Sat May 5 2012 2:13 pm EST
Hate to mention this, but as great as Henrik was today, he also gave 2 up he should have had. Now, it is not his fault that the utter incompetence offensively of our team makes him be perfect or else, but that is the case and has been all year. The OV cheap shot will not even be reviewed, nor will the idiotic refereeing. We will just have to find a way to overcome it, because I don't expect it to change.
Bob
Sat May 5 2012 2:13 pm EST
All of the positive traits of this team were reversed today. Worst of all, that includes Callahan.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 5 2012 2:12 pm EST
Bad calls, non calls all around. No call on Knuble on goalie interference no call on him putting the puck into thecrowd, no call on the slah on Boyle, week call on Haglin, missed high stick from a Ranger late....
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 2:11 pm EST
The refs blow again...
NV94
Sat May 5 2012 2:11 pm EST
BS...We started slow and took the game over in the second....The third period we had the edge in play until the refs took over....Yes MDZ looked like a moron continually shooting the puck into the defender but these perfectly timed calls against us are just brutal....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 2:10 pm EST
NN nbc got what they wanted, no ot, no post game....look at the bonnets......
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 2:08 pm EST
And that slash that got called on Hagelin moments after BB got slashed in the Cap zone with no call is ridiculous. What a league!
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 2:08 pm EST
Then stop friggin watching, Ola! ;-)
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 2:07 pm EST
Ola: Please don't watch game 5.
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 2:06 pm EST
And agreed with those criticizing MDZ out there - how many times will you try to shoot through a guy's pads when he's 4 feet away before you learn it's not gonna work? Suspect too tired - lots of Ranger mistakes due to that....better this team lose this game now than it go into OT and they lose in another hour, that's for sure.
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 2:06 pm EST
Weak ass effort. They deserved to lose. They didn't want the puck today. And WTF was that play by Callahan on the failed PK? Trying to draw a penalty 10 yards from the defensive blue line instead of just clearing the goddamned puck? This was not an honorable loss.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 5 2012 2:06 pm EST
An absolute disgrace....The late call on Richards in game 2 and now this....At some point I will just give up on watching this league....They destroy a wonderful sport....Why bother...
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 2:06 pm EST
Fourth straight loss for me watching live, all real annoying ones... Really annoying ones.
Ola
Sat May 5 2012 2:05 pm EST
Agree E but I have no faith that it will even get reviwed. Fuck this is annoying.
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 2:04 pm EST
The Refs did a great job getting the series even... total joke.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 2:04 pm EST
NHL officiating at it's finest. Reprehensible...but totally the norm. Phuckman sucks...
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 2:04 pm EST
big envelopes waiting for the un-officials....crookedbastards
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 2:04 pm EST
OV should at minimum be suspended. Without a doubt. He headhunted, and his skates clearly left the ice. The announcers are arguing if he made contact while one skate was still on the ice it should be clean. Thats ridiculous. He clearly left the ice after solid contact. Head was snapped back hard. Given that OV has an egregious reputation for doing this, any lack of suspension will tell you everything you need to know.
E
Sat May 5 2012 2:01 pm EST
MDZ... should be replaced for this last push, he has been horrible out there.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 2:01 pm EST
get diaper baby del zotto off the ice
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 2:00 pm EST
Bush league officiating... Sickens me!
Tucc
Sat May 5 2012 1:59 pm EST
the nhl...NOT HAVING LOGIC
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:57 pm EST
What infuriates me is that there is NO objectivity! A total disgrace.
pa.rangersfan
Sat May 5 2012 1:57 pm EST
Really amazing to witness. Clear head shots, slashing on them not called, then called on us. Clearly batting the puck out of play-no penalty. It is a complete joke.
Bob
Sat May 5 2012 1:57 pm EST
NBC needs a long series because it looks like the others will not be.
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 1:57 pm EST
How do they explain how it went into the crowd?...Nowhere near the glass....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 1:57 pm EST
I'm a big Torts guy, and I have no problem with Kreider not playing a lot today after his bad day...but using Prust in the last 2:30 when you're down a goal instead of the kid is just stupid, IMO. We'll see who comes out for the next shift with Stepan and Feds (if they even have one).
chinstrap
Sat May 5 2012 1:56 pm EST
I mean this is some serious stuff as it is deciding games....Not the first 5 minutes of the game here....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 1:56 pm EST
bring it to triple ot so nbc jumps off the curb with the Derby.......
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:55 pm EST
Wow... now you can punch pucks into the crowd... ridiculous!
Z
Sat May 5 2012 1:54 pm EST
chin...Yes he did but they all got wood when the Caps scored...
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 1:54 pm EST
Unreal. Need replay for these morons.
chinstrap
Sat May 5 2012 1:54 pm EST
These refs suck.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 1:54 pm EST
jerk job
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:53 pm EST
I am really considering not watching this bullshit anymore after this tilt.
pa.rangersfan
Sat May 5 2012 1:53 pm EST
Hate to whine about officiating but 6 minutes left in the game....Call all of it or none of it.....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 1:53 pm EST
Bush league officiating... Sickens me!
Tucc
Sat May 5 2012 1:53 pm EST
PJ: In the interest of fairness, Pierre actually mentioned 3 times that Torts shouldn't be happy about the Hagelin call because the refs missed the same thing done to Boyle.
chinstrap
Sat May 5 2012 1:53 pm EST
Gut check time
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 1:52 pm EST
that better be a delay of game
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:51 pm EST
malonney livid calling it a phantom call
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:50 pm EST
There you go....Uneven calls will cost us another game...NBC announcers going crazy with joy....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 1:50 pm EST
The Refs again trying to change the course of a game... Total BS.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 1:50 pm EST
nhl is slanted too as are their refs and shanhand
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:49 pm EST
bs call
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:49 pm EST
Ok ...Call it on the Rangers but not the Caps....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 1:48 pm EST
NN i understand what you are saying, but the 2/4/7 guys are slanted,
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:45 pm EST
Does ABC show it during the NBA Playoffs. Since I am a media buyer, I think in terms of how many spots NBC and their affiliates can sell.
DOUBLEN
Sat May 5 2012 1:44 pm EST
OLA i'd like to see him score one or two
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:43 pm EST
I'd like to see Cally shoot more.
Ola
Sat May 5 2012 1:39 pm EST
in my opinion nbc has a bias agenda......they don't like USA flag waving.......
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:36 pm EST
STEVIE: Then what's the real reason.
DOUBLEN
Sat May 5 2012 1:34 pm EST
Absolutely goalie interference....Bickel didn't shove Knuble in there....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 1:32 pm EST
NN that's not totally why....that was goalie interference
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:29 pm EST
If NBC showed the anthems, that's 2 minutes less of adtime to sell.
DOUBLEN
Sat May 5 2012 1:26 pm EST
HHH typical nbc bs.......
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:20 pm EST
Take this period and head back to New York......LET'S GO RANGERS
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 1:20 pm EST
The league & therefore announcers are clearly stacked against the Rangers... Hopefully its obvious to the the Rangers and just adds to motivate them... Lets Go Rangers, 20 minutes of complete domination, we will win!
mf
Sat May 5 2012 1:17 pm EST
I notice NBC never shows the anthems and yet they are shown on CBC. Ovie should get at least a game being a repeat offender, left his feet, and why is Mitchell on the PP ? Then again why would anyone want to be on the PP ? MDZ has forgotten 2 games ago he was hitting posts. Shoot the freaking puck boys, and my gut tells me Holtby will cost the Craps the game.
HamiltonHellhounds
Sat May 5 2012 1:15 pm EST
Stevie.... NBC reversed themselves on that again... they wont break away from the Ranger game if it goes long.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 1:15 pm EST
ok just outscore the craps this period.....bury them.....
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:15 pm EST
You better believe if Girardi hit Ovechkin that way, he'd be getting suspended.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 1:14 pm EST
nbc will make this the derby shortened game......
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:13 pm EST
LOL @ Brooksie. He tweets about OV leaving his feet, hitting Girardi n the head, being a repeat offender and it being in the hands of the player safety department.
Bob
Sat May 5 2012 1:13 pm EST
pilsbury saying suspend-able play
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:12 pm EST
So Backstrom elbows AA in the head and it is a great play?....Keith Jones defending the OV hit....Milbury says this guy does this all the time and should be fined....Nothing will happen....Think about that hit vs the Hagelin three game suspension and it makes you sick...
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 1:06 pm EST
Funny the CBC guys were lauding Schultz for his 9 blocked shots and then he participates in the 3 player gaffe that resulted in Gabbie's goal. What were the 2 defensemen doing, anyways? Just because there's an icing doesn't mean it's an icing until they touch it (this ain't houseleague hockey). And Holtby signalling an icing started the mini-fiasco....
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 1:05 pm EST
good period but i asked for 2 more from them, not just 2 more.....nyr need 3 in the 3rd.
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:03 pm EST
kid -k trips his own man, not his day.....so far......
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 1:00 pm EST
ANISIMOV is flying today.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 12:59 pm EST
WOW....Was that a bad play....Will take it....GABBY!!!!!!
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 12:59 pm EST
Washington-Schultz 2-2
Ola
Sat May 5 2012 12:59 pm EST
GABORIKKKKKKKKKKK
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 12:58 pm EST
GAB-MAN
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 12:57 pm EST
Girardi back thank goodness...
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 12:57 pm EST
I know... but if the skate was on the other foot... you better believe a Ranger would be getting suspended.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 12:56 pm EST
OV hit won't even be reviewed...It was on a Ranger...The prick skated pass the puck to make that high hit....Unreal...
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 12:56 pm EST
I dont like the screw up stamp we have had lately... But Kreider deserves Fred for coming back with some decent shifts.
Ola
Sat May 5 2012 12:56 pm EST
Sure he should, but his name isn't Torres, so it ain't gonna happen. Someone should simply nail his crooked teeth into next week....
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 12:55 pm EST
Rhet: Eddie O basically gave what would be the league's retarded explanation for not suspending him. It probably won't be brought up again.
RDW
Sat May 5 2012 12:55 pm EST
Hate to say it but Girardi just missed a shift...
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 12:55 pm EST
Worse than not scoring is the fact that these pathetic PPs result in the opposition getting fired up.
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 12:55 pm EST
ovalchoke should be suspended for that charging hit to the head intent to injure on Girardi.
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 12:53 pm EST
Anyone think OV wont be suspended for the hit on Girardi? :)
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 12:51 pm EST
GAWD I hate HATE HATE the Ranger PP....
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 12:51 pm EST
Strawman caught in know where land. Uh OH the rangers have a power play. Come on power play Gods.
barto
Sat May 5 2012 12:50 pm EST
We had taken over this game.....Dammit....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 12:50 pm EST
And will the Rangers please stop shooting the puck at the center of the net? MDZ set up gorgeously by Richards and fires the puck dead center. Geesh...
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 12:50 pm EST
Dominate the entire period, then we give one up. Ovechkin should be suspended for that cheap shot.
Bob
Sat May 5 2012 12:49 pm EST
Kreider sleeping on the Caps 2nd goal - he's gonna get Bickled now. And dammit, will AA ever learn???
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 12:48 pm EST
PP kiils our momentum and we are now down after dominating this period....Oh and Stralman flat out sucks....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 12:47 pm EST
WAY too slow moving and deliberate on the PP. I just don't get it. Our PP is a momentum boost for the opponent.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 5 2012 12:44 pm EST
We got more respect from the media when the Rangers were an array of overpaid, over the hill, big-name mercenaries and not a largely homegrown, young, hardworking, respectful and and humble group......Maybe it's a vendetta against Torts?
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 5 2012 12:44 pm EST
rANGER pp
mf
Sat May 5 2012 12:40 pm EST
Wow the color man is giving the rangers some praise,
barto
Sat May 5 2012 12:40 pm EST
BOB/STEVIE...I grabbed my laptop just to make the observation that, without a shred of paranoia I say this...when the Rangers score, the NBC announcers' tone suggests that something bad just happened. You would think it was Team Earth vs. the Evil Martians and the aliens just put the game away. This isn't the perception of the conspircy theorist; this is a fact.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 5 2012 12:33 pm EST
good bum them out 2 more times
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 12:32 pm EST
The NBC broadcast team sounds so bummed out that we scored.
Bob
Sat May 5 2012 12:31 pm EST
tucc over melodramatic........A-MAN SCORES!!!!!!!
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 12:31 pm EST
ONE UP ! WE'RE GONNA WIN THIS GAME, WIN THE SERIES, AND WIN THE CUP !
mf
Sat May 5 2012 12:29 pm EST
Ola: Get your tape measure out, that was not top of the crease, that was "maybe" 10 feet from the Blue line right of center.... Pretty big crease on your side of the pond... :->0
mf
Sat May 5 2012 12:28 pm EST
Bad giveaway, but horrific gaffe by henrik. That could be a series changing goal.
Tucc
Sat May 5 2012 12:26 pm EST
So Kreider handed it away for the goal - how will Tortorella react? Will he getted bickled???
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 12:25 pm EST
Worst period of the PO's .. plenty of time to recover.. only down by 1.. they can't play any worse.. looked like they were still back at the hotel in their heads for a 12:30 start ....
sjw
Sat May 5 2012 12:24 pm EST
Glad I missed the first period - sounds like one not worth watching...
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 12:19 pm EST
OLA that' s a problem, too many weak mistakes , not enough experienced guys. but you are right about the craps. need to come out gangbusters , and test their kid goalie......crash the net, get dirty......
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 12:17 pm EST
Little harsh blaming Hank on that one. I'm the first to point a finger at him but that was a onetimed blast off a great Kreider feed. Boy did we suck there. 1-0 is a miracle; maybe we'll show up now. Caps look sharp as hell.
Nick
Sat May 5 2012 12:16 pm EST
Lucky to be down one....A bad goal at that...Get the next goal and go from there....Need to start showing the desperation we had in game three....Nice period by Bickel....NBC and this Caps love fest is really getting sickening....Hard to take....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 12:15 pm EST
Stevie- Washington can't score on us, unless guys like Bickel or Kreider, or Hank for his part behind the net too, gives goals away.
Ola
Sat May 5 2012 12:14 pm EST
Hank probably should of had that one but I think the shot ticked off Boyls skate on the block attempt.
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 12:13 pm EST
Tucc- I don't know, you got the puck under controll in your own zone and all of a sudden AO is ripping it from the top of the crease. I just can't believe Kreider did that??? Jesus.
Ola
Sat May 5 2012 12:13 pm EST
Hank went to his knees (again) to stop a shot from far out, 10 feet from the Blue line, ..... He's got to stop dropping to the knees so reflexively...
mf
Sat May 5 2012 12:12 pm EST
well coming out behind only 1-0 after that bad period , they are lucky......wake up call......
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 12:05 pm EST
out shooting 13-3....WTFU
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 12:05 pm EST
Bad giveaway, but horrific gaffe by henrik. That could be a series changing goal.
Tucc
Sat May 5 2012 12:04 pm EST
Terrible play by Kreider and Torts put Rupp out with Kreiders line right after the goal. Hope it was a one shift message. Need the kid, and he can't be worried about being benched every time he makes a mistake. But that was a big one. Hank needs to glove that.
chinstrap
Sat May 5 2012 12:04 pm EST
Was afraid of this and I think Torts was too,,,,The triple OT win did not end the series...We still have to win two more games....Get going in this one.....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 12:04 pm EST
Caps sure look demoralized by game three. Hockey cliches are such bullshit. This should be 3-0 by now. Big game is the next one.
Nick
Sat May 5 2012 12:04 pm EST
Stralman has been brutal, Bickel has not had the chance to brutal, yet. Rangers better get their collective legs or this will be a long day.
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 12:03 pm EST
I knew Washington was going to come to play hard given the state of affairs but the NYR look. Few steps behind. They re standing around too much and need to find a more aggressive gear.
E
Sat May 5 2012 12:02 pm EST
Whats Kreider doing? How about playin 15 minutes before we give games away...
Ola
Sat May 5 2012 12:01 pm EST
it was in and out of his gliove.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 12:01 pm EST
What the hell was that Lundqvist?
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 12:01 pm EST
Well, a terrible play all around. Hanks should have had it.
Bob
Sat May 5 2012 12:01 pm EST
Bad play by Kreider but Hank missed it....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 11:51 am EST
Hey boys -- the game started a while back. You playing today?
Nick
Sat May 5 2012 11:50 am EST
Stralman penalty changes entire flow of game....Dumbass....
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 11:49 am EST
BOB: I'm not sure I agree with you. All paths are filled with treachery. NJD look excellent. Philly we had their number but a series is 7-games. LA is hot and deep. Phoenix? I have no idea what got up their asses. They are playing lights out right now.
E
Sat May 5 2012 11:45 am EST
Stralman continues his bad play. Where's Wade Redden? What a save by Hank.
chinstrap
Sat May 5 2012 11:36 am EST
LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Sat May 5 2012 11:34 am EST
The Whale dropped Game 2 against Norfolk last night, 4-1. Road game.. I didn't hear a whole lot about it. MCILRATH made his debut; he was paired up with WADE REDDEN. Seems that it was a poorly reffed game, leading to some frustration on the Whale's part... ANDRE DEVEAUX looks like he might be getting an automatic suspension for abuse of an official. He also scored the only Whale goal. Game 3 is tomorrow evening back in Hartford... Rhet0ric - You could be right on MCCOLGAN. The problem with this time of year is there are just too many bodies and not enough spots to give everyone a far shake. The Whale is averaging about 13 scratches a game right now - just about all healthy scratches.
Dineen11
Sat May 5 2012 11:28 am EST
I'm stoked for today's game... the team showed the other night that if we play Rangers hockey for every shift of every period... getting back to cover, back checking... we can't be beaten... We need to win today... We need to keep this team down and not let them get back up... GO HARD OR GO HOME... Let's Go Rangers!!!
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 11:24 am EST
GIBBO... In todays game, what passes for a top 6 is very debatable when compared to years ago... I don't disagree with you on Hagelin... I think if the Rangers do sign a Parise or traded for a Nash, they would be better having Hagelin scoring 20-25 on the third line... That being said, he might also show us all next year that he is indeed a top 6... only time will tell... DINEEN11....I did see that about Shane McColgan....My thinking with this trade is that the Rangers are not ready to give up on him yet... they traded him to a team that will challenge him more, which to me says they're might be something more to him than what we've seen so far... they could've just traded him to another organization or released him (as they've done in the past)... or am I just reading into things?
Rhet0ric
Sat May 5 2012 11:21 am EST
Phoenix played a nearly perfect road game last night. I was pulling for the Preds, as I do not think Phoenix can take out LA and I think that LA is the best team left out here. I still contend that this has set up for us to win the cup this year. I see the chances of our losing to the Caps as more likely than losing to either Newark or Philadelphia.
Bob
Sat May 5 2012 10:52 am EST
DCI: I am 100% behind what Trotz did. They may be his top players. But only in the sense of offense. Neither was playing 3-zones. Radulov in particular was piss poor on the back check and was lacking a lot of hustle. The man needs at least 150 suicides a day till he learns.
E
Sat May 5 2012 10:47 am EST
TDCHI: it is a conflict of interest. That stated the ONLY reason that they are where they are is because of Mike Smith. This has been the most incredible run by this guy. No one seems to be able to score on them.
E
Sat May 5 2012 9:52 am EST
Don't forget the league is paying the payroll for Pheonix too, if I'm not mistaken. And doesn't the owner of the Flyers also own the company who owns NBC sports? Not sure hows this works? Seems like several major conflicts in interest. LGR!!!!!
NYStranger
Sat May 5 2012 9:35 am EST
3-1 leads no longer seem so "dreaded". Wouldn't mind one today in the game, and the series. Sweep these punks in their own building.
FerociousMonk94
Sat May 5 2012 9:08 am EST
TD: Amen.... It's Bullspit.... Anyone doubt who the broadcasters & nhl website will be slanting to? And, using the word "slanting" is being polite... Also very little in the rags about NJ receiving food-stamps from the league.......... urghhhhh..... "All That Matter's is Winning Today" "LET'S GO RANGER'S!"
mf
Sat May 5 2012 8:52 am EST
By the by...how completely f@cked up is it that an NHL-OWNED TEAM could be going to the conference finals? Like, isn't there a serious conflict of interest here?!?
tdchi
Sat May 5 2012 8:10 am EST
2012 Stanley Cup playoffs: Washington Capitals’ offense is struggling entering Game 4 against New York Rangers ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2012-stanley-cup-playoffs-capitals-are-struggling-on-offense-entering-game-4-against-the-rangers/2012/05/04/gIQAILOP2T_story.html
mf
Sat May 5 2012 8:01 am EST
josh: He wasn't on the same team, but MDZ also played for Hunter. That Hunter led (and owned) London Knights club has been pumping kids into the NHL for over a decade.
RF4L
Sat May 5 2012 7:52 am EST
TD - great points. Trotz has to be fired if the Preds bow out in the second round. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face! He does not have the luxury of sitting his two top guns when he is already down 2-1. If he were up in the series I would give him a little more latitude. What dumb fuck~!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 5 2012 7:45 am EST
Man...what an disaster bubbling in Nashville right now...I was among those who were of the thinking the Preds would at least be going to the conference finals with RADULOV in the lineup...they moved all kinds of picks and prospects for a deep run...and now they're on the verge of being both a laughing stock and being eliminated in five games...They're one of, if not THE deepest team in the league...enough so they can scratch two of their regular contributors during the season(SMITH and HALISCHUK)...they rip through Radulov's last entry level season to get him here for the playoffs...then he and the older KOSTITSYN brother go out drinking until 10 hours before game time...the team rightfully suspends them for a crucial game, even though they're the two biggest offensive threats on the club...and perhaps the only ones outside of ERAT...yet the Preds steal a game...But Trotz and Poille decide to keep punishing the two and then piss away last night's game during a 1-0 snoozer. Could of been...WOULD have been a 2-2 series with those two in...but I suppose Trotz felt he had a few too many tows left and decided to take one more blast at his own foot. What a joke. And if they DO get eliminated...the Preds are going to have to make some tough decisions to keep their core together.
tdchi
Sat May 5 2012 7:40 am EST
DCI- right on... good points!
schneidw
Sat May 5 2012 7:38 am EST
Just talked w a good friend of mine.. huge hockey fan (Flyers).. he has been watching the NYRs in anticipation of a Broad St-Broadway matchup.. he was raving about the play of Brad Richards in the playoffs... I have to agree...
schneidw
Sat May 5 2012 7:38 am EST
Let me be clear. I was being facetious. Torts HAS to trust Bickel and play him a little over 600 seconds per game if we are gonna make it through this post season war. I want NOTHING to do with woywitka at this time I would rather bring up someone from Hartford!
DCIGolfer
Sat May 5 2012 7:33 am EST
Guys, BICKEL isn't that bad. Torts just has to trust him with more minutes and understand he's going to make errors. Frankly, I think its about having faith in the kid...he doesn't need to skate 20 minutes a game...just five or six over what he's now earning...the problem is, Torts refuses to use him after the first...I actually don't think EMINGER is a bad alternative, just because he's big and he's more experienced. My opinion is skate whichever one you feel confident playing 10 minutes a game...but WOYWITKA is simply not an option. The guy was OK for a very abbreviated spell during the regular season. He'd make a pylon look fast in these playoffs.
tdchi
Sat May 5 2012 7:29 am EST
might be together for the first 10 minutes...."....The Rangers skated at Friday’s practice with the lines they used through the third overtime of Wednesday’s Game 3, 2-1 victory over the Capitals. Marian Gaborik was on the right with center Brad Richards and left wing Carl Hagelin; Brian Boyle centered Ruslan Fedotenko and Ryan Callahan; Derek Stepan skated between Chris Kreider and Artem Anisimov; and John Mitchell was the pivot for Mike Rupp and Brandon Prust. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/slapshot/rangers_use_overtime_lines_at_practice_vR60Ead0G1o8l7pnnVBiUM#ixzz1tzv88VWV
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 7:27 am EST
": Tortorella believes the Rangers have no chance if they think they’re tired and have no chance to win the Stanley Cup if one triple-overtime victory in the second round is perceived as reaching some sort of summit. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/cooler_king_axzEQqYE0jc0vy4fU8IdKM#ixzz1tzuQt3Q8
stevielegs
Sat May 5 2012 7:26 am EST
Sorry for the double post. Bizzare how much different the flow and pace of the games are for the WAS series compared to the OTT matchup.. I wonder how much the refs play a role in the flow.. the SENS were so chippy and getting away w murder w after-the-play cheapshots... The CAPS are not overly aggresive w hitting despite having a huge lineup.. does WAS inflate their roster stats?? Look at these numbers... Ovie#8 is 230 lbs???? Hendricks has been a wrecking ball.. he crushed Animisov and McDonough... Even Backman at 225lbs??? I don't believe ti...
schneidw
Sat May 5 2012 7:20 am EST
Woywitka??? Please NO! He makes Bickel look like Paul Coffey,...Emminger hasnt played in 2 months... dangerous to throw him in to the mix.. I would prefer to stick w Bickel and protect him by playing him w Staal (NOT Del Zotto)!
schneidw
Sat May 5 2012 7:20 am EST
Woywitka??? Please NO! He makes Bickel look like Paul Coffey,...Emminger hasnt played in 2 months... dangerous to throw him in to the mix.. I would prefer to stick w Bickel and protect him by playing him w Staal (NOT Del Zotto)!
schneidw
Sat May 5 2012 6:31 am EST
Somebody mentioned the only thing that saved #8, when he got nailed by Staal coming across the middle, was his athleticism. AGREED. Let's do that to him every time he steps to the middle! Big game, Emminger has to be in or Woywitka, either one should be able to play 4-5 minutes! We cannot win 10 more games with 4 defensemen.
DCIGolfer
Fri May 4 2012 11:08 pm EST
I live in London......Prust is a home town boy .. Schremp was also on the 05 team .. went to a Memorial cup game that year.. Criesbaby played for Rimouski
sjw
Fri May 4 2012 8:49 pm EST
I missed Staal's hit on OV, so, decided to take a look & thought it Damn Worthy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Zlqj31QVU
mf
Fri May 4 2012 8:15 pm EST
Saw the BBoys in Honolulu a few years back. MCA was wearing a NYR jersey. Represent. Gotta win the cup now for him.
E
Fri May 4 2012 6:58 pm EST
Colorado: Proper! Josh: Nice! I have some FB friends who were posting about that today And has anyone visited webleedblue.com? I want to buy a bunch of shirts, but not sure if it's a jinx-type situation now. (The Islanders-bashing ones are stellar)
Rexi29
Fri May 4 2012 6:33 pm EST
As the Wall's resident Beastie Boy fan, I am saddened by the loss of Adam "MCA" Yauch at age 47, after succumbing to a 3 year battle with throat cancer. He was born in Brooklyn and a Ranger fan who apparantly had season tickets to watch the blueshirts. RIP.
ColoradoMark
Fri May 4 2012 6:28 pm EST
Hey Folks, check this out! TheBroadwayHat.com.
pa.rangersfan
Fri May 4 2012 5:36 pm EST
Technically yes but I consider him a 3rd liner
Gibbo
Fri May 4 2012 4:29 pm EST
GIBBO... Who was the last/most recent homegrown Left Wing? ...CARL HAGELIN... NY Rangers... Taken 168th overall in the 6th Round of the 2007 Draft.
Rhet0ric
Fri May 4 2012 4:07 pm EST
Where is everyone going for Game 4? Any viewing parties in the city?
Tucc
Fri May 4 2012 3:58 pm EST
Watched the LA series last night. How can we get Brown? To think we had this guy the number 2 behind Jessiman? 04 was the gift that keeps on giving
E
Fri May 4 2012 3:09 pm EST
Josh29... Speaking of Girardi, Prust and Dale Hunter, This is awesome pic from those days... see if you can pick out the current Rangers... http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2012/04/28/read-the-impact-dale-hunter-has-had-on-certian-rangers/
Rhet0ric
Fri May 4 2012 2:43 pm EST
Also, I just learned that Girardi and Prust won the 2005 Memorial Cup (Dave Bolland and Corey Perry were also on the team). Their head coach? DALE HUNTER
josh29
Fri May 4 2012 2:42 pm EST
Hey guys - I wrote this before teh season started, and just made a playoff update: http://www.puckpress.com/blog/featured/how-they-became-rangers
josh29
Fri May 4 2012 2:10 pm EST
Mike Allison/Early 1980's
RinkRat
Fri May 4 2012 12:35 pm EST
TDCHI -- right but I'm talking Left Wings... of course I know & remember those guys but I'm saying who was the last/most recent homegrown Left Wing? I can't think of anybody between Kreider (now) & Granato ('88)
Gibbo
Fri May 4 2012 12:28 pm EST
Or Don Murdoch, until he was caught smoking pot....
RF4L
Fri May 4 2012 12:23 pm EST
TD: Don't forget Steve Vickers...
RF4L
Fri May 4 2012 12:21 pm EST
Vic Hadfield.....
PJ
Fri May 4 2012 12:04 pm EST
Gibbo – The Rangers have produced a number of very good forwards...only they never seem to produce much with a Ranger jersey on their back...Excluding Granato, Ulf DAHLEN was another very potent offensive forward(though his career never took off like some thought it would)...Dave GAGNER is another one the team bailed on before he became a star...Tony AMONTE was in the middle of his breakout year when he was dealt...and of course, there was Doug WEIGHT...KOVALEV too...and of course there was Tomas SANDSTROM...another great Ranger who was moved too soon IMO...Mike RIDLEY was another, though he was undrafted...Jury is still out on KREIDER'S ceiling or lack thereof. But I think we as Ranger fans would be happy if he put up numbers like any of the aforementioned forwards,
tdchi
Fri May 4 2012 11:47 am EST
Gibbo - or Pat Hickey.
DREW
Fri May 4 2012 10:16 am EST
seriously though, I'm probably/hopefully missing someone but who's the last real, legit top 6 LW prospect the Rangers have had? Tony Granato?
Gibbo
Fri May 4 2012 10:02 am EST
haha... Bun E. Carlos!
Gibbo
Fri May 4 2012 9:57 am EST
Gibbo - isn't that the drummer from Cheap TRick?
Hospo
Fri May 4 2012 9:56 am EST
I love the way the Rangers are controlling the boards and I look forward to a few more goals like Gabby's the other night where the Ranger forward passes the puck to the slot from the backboard....HAGELIN (and Gabby) had some gorgeous ones earlier in the year using their speed behind the goalie..Hopefully, he gets one tomorrow..
Hospo
Fri May 4 2012 9:51 am EST
Let's be honest here... Kreider is easily the greatest homegrown Rangers Left Wing since Bun Cook
Gibbo
Fri May 4 2012 9:35 am EST
Among lots of things that are encouraging about Kreider is how he played physically in game 3. Unlike the Ottawa series where when he had the opportunity to bodycheck, he elected to stick check (or worse, turn away), on Wednesday he was hitting and almost everytime he had the opportunity. They weren't big nasty put the guy into next week hits, but they weren't puny reluctant ones, either. It's exciting to see because of his size and skill - he keeps that up and increases the intensity of those hits and wow, he's gonna strike a lotta fear in opposing d-men's hearts. Very impressive both from the kid and from the coaching staff (and his teammates) to see.
RF4L
Fri May 4 2012 9:29 am EST
td: Dont get me wrong...they are a very good team...but they are not as good as their playoff record shows, and they will not look as good against a team that actually sticks to a defensive plan. Like I don't think they could have won that game last night if the goalie was capable of making a couple easy stops that he didn't. For all the great played they make in the offensive zone, I saw quite a few big mistakes in the D zone, and the blues just didn't even get a shot on net, they missed or tried to make a pretty play instead of the simple one...the Kings look better than they really are right now because of some things outside of their control. I dont really think their 8th place finish was anything more than they played like an 8th place team for a big chunk of the year. Yes they have good players, and yes they can play very well, but at the same time, the tend to lay an egg every once in a while...and in the playoffs so far, if tehy have started to lay an egg the other team has laid a bigger one.
Wildcard
Fri May 4 2012 9:25 am EST
VIC, 100% agreement. They use Hags speed to push the play in a direction. He starts the Defense and the forecheck. His speed opens up space. Hopefully he will score more or he may never score a bunch of goals. Either way he is only a rookie who hasn't had a full NHL season and at this point he already is giving the team positive play.
KIS
Fri May 4 2012 9:17 am EST
The debate that I wanted to jump in on is the HAGS debate. I saw a lot of folks giving him crap around here for not scoring. I don't think that criticism is warranted at all. That isn't his role on the ice. His job is being the "tip of the spear" of the forecheck and he has done an excellent job of that. He causes more turnovers then anyone else on this team except maybe CALLY. You can tell that RICHARDS loves playing with HAGS because he knows that all he needs to do is follow HAGS in and pick up the lose puck. There are two differences between HAGS and KREIDER that make them different players and make KREIDER such a dangerous offensive threat. The first is that KREIDER already knows to use his incredible first step and quickness to take the puck back up the boards from the corner and get separation from the defender. That is going to be a monster move for him as he matures because he can score off the curl or distribute the puck to a wide open guy for a shot. The other thing that KREIDER does better right now is bounce off the forecheck and head to the net. There are many ties that HAGS forces the turnover but he either stays in the corner or moves behind the goal. I've seen KREIDER bounce out to the goal or hash marks. Those are goal scoring instincts. HAGS thinks like a forechecker and cycle guy. KREIDER thinks like a goal scorer.
Vic
Fri May 4 2012 9:13 am EST
When I say it's, I mean all the negativity about Carter.
RF4L
Fri May 4 2012 9:10 am EST
Ola: We'll see how it plays out. The Kings season turned around with his acquisition. Not saying it's directly due to his contributions, but for certain there's something there. Yes his contract is silly (so is Brad Richards') but I've maintained it's overblown.
RF4L
Fri May 4 2012 9:04 am EST
RF4L: Damn, you beat me to it on STAAL. I had to travel early yesterday so I didn't get to watch the overtime periods until last night. I didn't want to comment until I saw the entire game. I want to echo all of the comments on the individual performances but I also wanted to point out a few specific things about some of the guys on Wednesday, and then jump into a running debate that has gone on here the last week. First, I thought STAAL had a monster game, The poke check that ended up in the goal didn't bother me as it was a good play with a bad luck outcome. Sure, he could have gone for the big hit but if he played it safe and executed the poke check perfectly. He got so much of the puck that it ended up bouncing off the guy and then right back to his stick. Just bad luck. But, I thought the hit on STAAL by AO was the final turning point for STAAL. His game has gotten better and better since returning to the lineup but the things that were still missing from his game were the big hit and the overall nastiness that we have seen from him in the past. It just looked like the was still hesitant to play that way because he was afraid of another concussion. That hit by AO seemed to me like it cleared the last of his hesitancy. He got pissed and the old nasty STAAL came back. Maybe after that hit he got the confidence to play that nasty game again. Maybe he just got pissed and forgot all about it. Either way it was nice to see him play like he used to. Hopefully that was the last corner he had to turn to get back to being this team's #1 guy. If he is back to form, along with the way that McMONSTER, GIRARDI and MDZ are playing this team will be hard to beat....................... The other guy that I wanted to talk about was RICHARDS. We have debated how important it is to have a #1 center who could dominate games at times and make everyone around him better. I was on record as saying that I thought it was more important then the goaltender position and I stand by that. I can name you lots of teams that won cups without a great goaltender. It is hard to name teams that have won cups without a top #1 center. An average goaltender can go on a run and win a cup. Teams with average #1 centers usually don't even make the playoffs. Back to RICHARDS. I've never loved the guy but never thought anything bad about him either. I've always thought of him as an above average #1 Center but never in the class of the top centers in the league. He has really stepped up in these playoffs and is showing that he can turn it on in the playoffs and compete with the best centers in the league. They are going to need him to continue to compete at this level if they are going to have a shot to win the cup this year.
Vic
Fri May 4 2012 8:59 am EST
Wild - I'm not so sure about that. From where I'm looking, LA looks like the deepest team in the west. I think their eighth place finish was really misleading...When guys like Jarret STOLL and Dustin PENNER are your third liners, you've got a pretty deep team. They also have a pretty nasty defense. They're going to eliminate St. Louis simply because of HALAK'S injury...but make no mistake, this is a hard-hitting, playoff designed team. Very well constructed for a run...and having a guy like RICHARDS on your roster in the post season is HUGE. Like I said, I could care less about CARTER...but his presence seems to elevate Richards, and that's who you need firing on all cylinders...Ola - agreed...I wouldn't touch Carter with a 10-foot pole. But in LA, he's the right guy for the right time. They didn't need JOHNSON anymore, especially with that young Russian kid playing so well. And if Carter is what it takes to get Richards at 100 percent, then I guess he's a necessary evil...Either way, I got the Kings going to the finals.
tdchi
Fri May 4 2012 8:49 am EST
RF4L -- agreed about Staal....he's just rounding into shape now.....perfect timing. He might even be better equipped for this Cup run because he has less wear n' tear than he would have if he had played a full season. I think he will continue to get better with each successive game throughout the PO's. Perfect.
JFC31
Fri May 4 2012 8:47 am EST
RF4L: It doesn't shock me that LA is winning...but I am not going to say more than "they are winning". What I mean is, at least 2 goals last night would not have gotten by another goalie most likely. The blues goalies (well really 1 now for the last 7 games) have come back down to earth, their amazing regular season number were just that, regular season numbers, now their numbers look much like their career averages. Vancouver was not the same for the first 3 games with their top guy out, and Luango was not sharp, he let in some softies. The Kings are good, that are playing above themselves i think by just a little, and they have not seen a team that has played well in their own zone. The Blues were that team for at least half the regular season, and it seems they are NOT that now. The mistakes they are making are huge. That and LA has a great netminder, but up against a team with a great netminder like the Rangers, they may not look so great. Hank doesn't give up too many 5 hole goals with a clear view of a point shot.
Wildcard
Fri May 4 2012 8:47 am EST
Was there a blue moon last night?....Larry Brooks wrote a complimentary article regarding Tortorella!! I think Torts has this team's psyche perfectly figured out and knows the right tone to take to get the results he wants. It's true....the fantastic win on Wednesday will mean NOTHING unless we advance. Watching Devs/Philthies last night....we need to move on from this series in the worst way....neither one of those teams has the golatending that will allow them to beat us, though I'd prefer NJ over Philthy.
JFC31
Fri May 4 2012 8:36 am EST
RF4L- Wait a minute. Jeff Carter has 1 goal so far in the PO's, was on pace to score 50 pts over 82 games in the regular season, and is signed for TEN MORE YEARS at over 5m per. Sure, he is a warm body for LA playing 14-18 minutes for them, but I still gotta be honest and admit that I definitely would have been a little pissed if we traded assets like Jack Johnson for him.
Ola
Fri May 4 2012 8:03 am EST
I know we've mentioned here several times, but something that shouldn't be underestimated in this impressive PO run is the contribution from Marc Staal. I think it's going by somewhat under-appreciated in part because of the play of others and because it's what we ultimately expect from him. Of course, prior to his concussion issues, this wouldn't have needed to be mentioned, but when you consider how off his game was until basically April and how he's played since, it is, IMO, quite amazing. I thought he was a truly a beast Wednesday night - IMO, the most physical D-man for both teams. I loved it when OV knocked him down early in the game because his history with OV has been from the beginning to respond by getting angry and getting even and with his size, skating and skill, he's very effective when he's got that vengeance mindset on. You know when he nearly decapitated OV on the same shift after OV knocked him down, OV instantly realized that he'd better not cut across the middle again (it's because of his pure skill that OV managed, at the last second, to get partially out of the way - if not, he'd be out now with a concussion, of that I've zero doubt). I think what's happened is the sub-conscious fear of being re-concussed if/when he started to bring back to his game the physical aspect he's so good at has vanished because he's hitting and taking hits with no ill-effects. I've also noticed, as these POs go deeper, him carrying the puck more, something he started to bring to his game in the latter half of last season. Truly, this man's confidence has re-emerged and it's wonderful to see and crucial to the Rangers ability to continue onward....
RF4L
Fri May 4 2012 7:37 am EST
TD: I'm finding it quite amusing to see LA working their way to the cup final despite that malcontent dressing room cancer Jeff Carter acquisition. Even more amusing is that they are doing with essentially 2 malcontents who like to drink and party and don't give a damn if the team wins or loses. Just goes to show, IMO, how things can get overblown at times. Richards is a fine hockey player - a more talented Callahan (but with less willingness to sacrifice his body) and Carter oozes goal-scoring skill. I am not at all surprised to see the Kings doing well - add those 2 malcontents to Brown, Kopitizar, a solid D led by Doughty and that goalie and you have a formidible team if/when they bring it (and clearly, they are bringing it).
RF4L
Fri May 4 2012 7:33 am EST
Ha...Higgy never fails to get you guys stirred up...Frankly, I always like HIGGINS and I don't think he played bad here at all...just he always seemed like he was clutching his stick a bit too tightly...anyway, I got to give him props for his small roles in Ranger history, which was to facilitate McDONAGH coming here and eventually land us PRUST...Man...watched some of the Devils-Philly and some of the LA-Blues games last night and was simply dumbfounded by the irony in the deals the Flyers did last summer...seems like just a couple weeks ago, everyone was singing praises to HOLMGREN...and I've got to somewhat credit him for getting such a nice young core together in short order...but never was it more clear than last night that BRYZGALOV was simply the wrong goalie...At least the wrong goalie with the Flyers' defense aligned the way it is right now...The Flyers are going to have to turn it up pretty significantly if they're going to get out of this round...they're going to need to score two goals for every one Bryz lets in, because their defense is porous...Now the IRONY right now is that LOS ANGELES is starting to look more and more like the conference favorite. They're now poised to eliminate the second-ranked Blues in four after knocking off the first-ranked Canucks in five...This from an EIGHTH-ranked team! But here's the irony: The Kings run can be attributed to two things...first and foremost, the performance of QUICK...and secondly, the addition of RICHARDS-CARTER...Richards has been phenomenal in the series...Carter less-so, but still good. The team is just nasty looking from the top down.Now I don't think I need to point out the irony here...that Philly could have kept both of those clowns and BOBROVSKY in net and the team would probably be better off than where it is now...maybe not so much in the future...but this year, it's looking like they dealt away the two guys who probably could have made up for their goaltending deficit offensively.
tdchi
Fri May 4 2012 7:28 am EST
BTW, I know it's tough to criticize Tortorella because of the way he;s got his players performing, but has he offered up any reason at for the fact that in a 100+ minute game, his sixth apparently healthy defenseman played less than 4 minutes of it? I find it inexplicable and cannot believe 1) Bickel is that bad and 2) Eminger is worse. If so, then I'm with Hospo: Why the snot didn't Sather acquire someone like Gill at the deadline?
RF4L
Fri May 4 2012 7:24 am EST
Rhet: Just learned that the Sasktoon Blades are the host of the 2013 Memorial Cup, so is a good trade for McColgan and the Rangers. Lets hope the kid takes advantage of this opportunity (ie guaranteed birth in the Memorial Cup and a strong team to play on in his final junior season).
RF4L
Fri May 4 2012 7:06 am EST
"......Leadership supplied: Infinite. “I’m not sure Ryan Callahan said two words on the bench. It’s what he does on the ice,” Tortorella said in a conference call yesterday afternoon. “One thing I did notice, one voice I did hear [in the locker room] when we were going into those overtimes, was his. That’s part of his maturity in being captain,” the coach said of the 26-year-old winger who was named to succeed Chris Drury as the Blueshirts’ captain four days before training camp opened. “Two years ago, I don’t know whether he would have felt comfortable speaking up like that, but between periods, his voice was heard.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/callahan_earns_his_captain_in_locker_D9Z5xBcNfFmbbn7ivzIyAP#ixzz1ttybI6aL
stevielegs
Thu May 3 2012 10:09 pm EST
Higgins....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....my ass hurts....
RF4L
Thu May 3 2012 10:03 pm EST
So on the Kovalchuk 2-1 goal, The Greatest Player in the World, Giroux, glides from the red line in, ten feet behind Kovy. Yet Keith Jones, whose day job is on Philly radio, somehow misses this. Maybe he was preparing another slam on a Russian guy from a team that's not the Flyers.
Nick
Thu May 3 2012 9:55 pm EST
The Rock has good sight lines and is an overall upper echelon arena. I saw a Devils vs. Sabres game and it wasn't sold out. The atmosphere was OK. Not much enthusiasm but then again it was the Sabres. Saw the NYR vs. NJD and the NYR lost bad. The place was great for that game.
E
Thu May 3 2012 9:55 pm EST
Devils win in OT....Pretty sure this will be a long series....If we can get there both Fatso and Bryz would be easier than what we have seen so far....
PJ
Thu May 3 2012 9:27 pm EST
SJW-good place to watch a game. Too bad it has to be the Devils though.
Bob
Thu May 3 2012 9:19 pm EST
Watching teh PHL-NJD game... man, the Prudential Center seems like a GREAT hockey arena from waht I can tell from 2400 miles away... way better than the cavernous Wachovia Center... anybody been to the NJD arena to see the NYRs play them? How is it live? I haven't been to MSG since Herb Brooks was the coach.. . one of these days....
schneidw
Thu May 3 2012 9:17 pm EST
WTF?? HIggins? where did his name come from... ass clown throw-in on the Gomez deal to make salaries work better.... 6 goals and -9 in his only non-descript season as a NYR... good riddance...
schneidw
Thu May 3 2012 9:05 pm EST
And we got Prust for him. Would this Ranger team be as good with Higgins instead of Prust?
ColoradoMark
Thu May 3 2012 9:04 pm EST
Higgy, I have a feeling you didn't "just" realize Higgins' stats!
ColoradoMark
Thu May 3 2012 8:56 pm EST
Will Brodeur just retire already? My god does he blow. Hank and Holtby could play without pads and be better than these two jokers out there tonight. I despise both teams but still say the NYR would crush this Newark crew way easier than the Flyers. But with Fatso in there, the Devils have little shot.
Nick
Thu May 3 2012 8:36 pm EST
Veh iz Mir
stevielegs
Thu May 3 2012 7:14 pm EST
Ov Veh,,, One of the greatest Ranger games in many years and someone wants to talk about a dude who sucked Ass when he was here. Higgins is the perfect player for an underperforming Canuck team. 0 pts in the playoffs, don't think the rangers are clamoring for his services.
cnparda
Thu May 3 2012 6:54 pm EST
HIGGY: zzzzzzzzzz...
E
Thu May 3 2012 6:12 pm EST
Rhet0ric - MCCOLGAN was actually with the Whale for a few weeks at the end of the season. He played 5 games... no points, was a -2 and had 3 SOG. He didn't play at all in the playoffs and was actually released from his ATO with the Whale last week. The little bit I saw of him left me unimpressed.
Dineen11
Thu May 3 2012 5:28 pm EST
Just realized CHRISTOPHER HIGGINS had- 18 G, 25 A. 43Points in 77Games. +/-11. Knew we shouldn't of traded him. Has more goals than 9 out of 12 Ranger Forwards.
Higgy21
Thu May 3 2012 3:53 pm EST
LOL. They go to the video and records to see who was on the ice. 2:00 later they drop the puck. This clean the ice nonsense should also not occur after an icing. The NHL. More the the LOL.
Bob
Thu May 3 2012 3:41 pm EST
nyfans...Saw that also and it was very aggravating....I believe one of the Caps was really gassed after trying to get back to nullify the icing....The refs then had to spend several minutes trying to identify who it was that went to the bench...They need to make that an automatic delay of game in the future....
PJ
Thu May 3 2012 3:31 pm EST
Rhet: If Saskatoon is ramping up for a Memorial CUp run next year, then this is a good trade for the kid,both from an experience perspective and in terms of the fact that the Blades are looking at him as an important piece of that run. If the Blades are a middle of the road team, then I see it as not having much significance either way.
RF4L
Thu May 3 2012 3:25 pm EST
One thing that pissed me off during the game is toward the end of 2nd OT, the Caps iced the puck, but one of the guys went off the ice. By the time they forced him back out, they were rested. That should be delay of game. I was already pissed because two other icing calls against the Caps were delayed to fix the ice.
nyfans
Thu May 3 2012 3:01 pm EST
KIS: in terms of swapping out goaltenders? I ONLY consider this if the goalie was out of gas. A great example was Holtby. Down the stretch he was so tired he was taking a knee to get up. I am just not sure how much further he had to go. By contrast, Lundqvist still had some spring in him. I wouldn't have changed Lundqvist unless he pulled himself or if he looked like he had enough. 4th-5th OT? There are limitations on the body.
E
Thu May 3 2012 2:57 pm EST
Worthy of pointing out if it wasn't already. The NYR were dictating the play more and more the deeper the game went. Whether by grueling camp fitness of by age, this team looked like it still had gas to go and I believe that after that OV miss the Caps were in trouble. The NYR were cycling, and the Caps were zoning up. That is ultimately how Gaborik got in front as no one was able to challenge Richards. I believe that even if that goal didn't happen then, the NYR were still going to win.
E
Thu May 3 2012 2:52 pm EST
HOSPO: straight up clean hockey hit. You gotta have your head on a swivel. He caught McD. I was glad to see McD get right back up and into the game. As for injuries? Everyone is injured and I am sure that hit left a mark but it's the playoffs, pain is par for the course.
E
Thu May 3 2012 2:48 pm EST
WILDCARD: with respect... SJ playing different in the regular season vs. the playoffs in my opinion you are 100% wrong.
E
Thu May 3 2012 12:05 pm EST
TD... From what I understand Dubinsky has a soft cast on his foot and is on crutches... MZA will supposedly be ready before Dubi is... Mitchell played well last night, but I'd still rather see Zuccarello in there instead.
Rhet0ric
Thu May 3 2012 12:02 pm EST
2011 fifth round pick Shane McColgan has been traded from the Kelowna Rockets to the Saskatoon Blades in the WHL... “We’re pleased to bring in a player like Shane McColgan,” said Blades Head Coach and General Manager Lorne Molleken. “He’s a dynamic offensive player that also brings grit, versatility and hard work to the table. He’s also a guy that brings in some solid playoff experience, something we will need going forward into next season.” ...Dineen11... Does this help the kid in any way?
Rhet0ric
Thu May 3 2012 11:54 am EST
Yeah that was a clean crushing hit. It's almost impossible not to have some head contact even with elbows down; guys are a little low, opponent comes in straight, etc. I was mostly afraid of the head snap-back where the brain gets thrown inside the man's head. That was something. Right after Richards had the puck but his skates went out from under him allowing the steal and pass to Brouwer. Thank God for the big save ...
Nick
Thu May 3 2012 11:46 am EST
stevie - mostly left side shoulder (made hime twirl around) but I guess up to the jaw a tad......MCD was a little low also...great hit...but I understand the concern for McD..and thank God he seems OK...
Hospo
Thu May 3 2012 11:15 am EST
2008 Pittsburgh Penguins Buffalo Sabres 2009 Cup Winner Pittsburgh 2009 Detroit Red Wings Chicago Blackhawks 2010 Cup Winner Chicago 2010 Philadelphia Flyers Boston Bruins 2011 Cup Winner Boston
schneidw
Thu May 3 2012 11:14 am EST
Interesting Fact.... Ever since the Winter Classic started, one of the participants has gone on to win the Stanley Cup…
schneidw
Thu May 3 2012 10:59 am EST
HOSPO part of the shoulder caught him in the jaw.
stevielegs
Thu May 3 2012 10:47 am EST
schneidw - No way that Hendricks hit was to the head..shoulder to the upper torso ..at least how I remember it..but it was so long ag...Anyway, That was as clean and as hard of a check you can throw.....The way McD played the next two OT's, I think he's fine.....Staall almost obliteraed OV coming across...still a good hit though..
Hospo
Thu May 3 2012 10:40 am EST
McDonough#27- I am afraid to check the papers and blogs todya in fear of reading that Ryan McD has a concussion... he took a direct hit to the head and looked lost and dazed afterward... he got crushed.. brutal!
schneidw
Thu May 3 2012 10:35 am EST
who needs a pp,?............ the game would have been over a lot sooner.........boston didn't have one......look where they are now.........
stevielegs
Thu May 3 2012 10:26 am EST
or wait...is hank 2 games over .500? Yeah...he is 6-4...my bad.
Wildcard
Thu May 3 2012 10:09 am EST
and how about these numbers for the PO so far. 1.55 GAA and a .944 save%. I mean WOW...that is just nuts. Holtby, even though he gave up just 2 goals last night in almost 2 full games worth of ice time has a 1.94 GAA (still a great number however) but his record is 5-5, he may be playing very well for a rookie, and only what 22 years old or something like that...its a great story, and he will just get better for them, but he is very beatable. Granted Hank is just 1 game above .500, but it feels like he has played better...or maybe its my Blue tinted glasses ;)
Wildcard
Thu May 3 2012 10:03 am EST
How about hank...over 83 min of shutout time...course even though he has more than a full game with out giving up a goal, he doesn't get credit for a shut out, but still...he must be feeling good...well when he wakes up and gets his head back on after such a long night.
Wildcard
Thu May 3 2012 10:01 am EST
Hospo: You are correct. The rangers got the number 2 overall seed playing within a structure. It would be stupid to change it now just because its the playoffs. SO many teams do that, I think that's part of why teams like the Sharks suffer early exits so often. They play one way in the regular season, than try to change to a "playoff style" all of a sudden and it doesn't work. The rangers structure got them the first round win, and it got them a 3OT win last night, and it kept them in each and every game in these playoffs so far. They need to stick with it, and forget about the last game and don't think about the next one. They need to worry about the shift they are on and play their best for it, weather it be 30 seconds or they are stuck out for a full 2 min PK. It is what Torts works hard at getting them to do, and what the players say when they talk, and so far, for about 90% of this year, they have lived and played that way...if they can keep it up there is no reason they cant win the cup...they may have to play long series and tough games...but they are tough enough, and willing to go all out, and that is a edge they have over almost every team.
Wildcard
Thu May 3 2012 9:21 am EST
DUGSTER - The Caps laid out some big hits...so did the Rangers..Pretty even Physically in my opinion...But it hurts to see McD slammed like that instead of the other way around...Believe me, I would love to see the Rangers go all out crazy for the hit now and then and leave a crumpled OV in their wake, but that ain't ther game...They Hit, but always in the structure of the game...It's worked sos far..
Hospo
Thu May 3 2012 9:16 am EST
Hospo--Hendricks is the guy I thought Rupp should have laided the "SMACKDOWN" on,,,but I forgot we dont do that in the playoffs,......
thedugster
Thu May 3 2012 9:14 am EST
Hospo---yea I thought they took a few liberties running guys,,,,,
thedugster
Thu May 3 2012 9:12 am EST
RINkRat _ yes, they did a great job on the boards, and not just their big bodies..Even the smaller Ranger forwartds were winning pucks along the boards....But alot of it had to do with how the Rangers D would pinch up along the baords and send the puck right back in...Giood strategy to try and leep the puck behind the Caps net....Occasionally, it blows up in our face --it got a little hairy in the 3rd when the Rangers looked too tired to move to spaces-- but it's how they need to play..
Hospo
Thu May 3 2012 9:11 am EST
When PA. and I were in High school we played the longest game ever in the US. we were i a game with 16 yes 16 OTs. Eventually it got to dark and they ruled the game a tie. Since that time, the state put in a ruling limiting the time. Another game can't go that long. Anyhow, all I know is eventually your body has no power and you muscles just get so soar. It all became a mental matter. You run and move because you have to. You don't want to be the reason your team loses. Yes I played the WHOLE game. I wsn't coming off the field. I got done and had blodd blisters on my feet and just put my legs in ice to help cool them off. We didn't even have the luxary of getting many fluids or food for more fuel. I've heard they bring in things like Pizza and drinks even beer into the locker rooms for the NHL players in these situations. Beer because of the salts and minerals it contains. They teams were both amazing especially Cally and Mac D. What a good nucleus this team has. Great Job Rangers.
KIS
Thu May 3 2012 9:08 am EST
The Rangers OWN the boards!!! Amazing display of cycling the puck puck last night.
RinkRat
Thu May 3 2012 9:03 am EST
Question for you boys. the game got slower and slower as time went by. Shots were softer as well. Would anybody change goalies during a game like that. Not because of talent but because the fresh goalie seems like he would be so quick and the game would be so slow for him that he wouldn't let anything in. Not saying I would do it but I was just wondering.
KIS
Thu May 3 2012 8:56 am EST
Amazing and entertaining game last night. Not that it was a classic for highlight but a classic in will and determination. Both teams were incredible. Couple guys on the Rangers are just amazing warriors. Obviously Mac D. unbelievable takes a hit last night that would have killed sauer and put Staal on the bench until next year. Staal had a workman like game. Boyle just kept going. Nobody has to question Girardi's toughness. He might not want to fight but he hits blocks and just keeps playing. Amazing. Richards is doing what the Rangers paid for. HAnk, as pissed as I can get with him cam up with some HUGE saves. Great tough game from the Rangers. If the Rangers get up by 2 or 3 in the next game do the Caps fold up and just play out the series. Those type of games like last night can be back breakers.
KIS
Thu May 3 2012 8:55 am EST
MAn ,can only imagine holw those guys feels this morning...Happy but mentally and physically spent.....ANother tip of the cap to Team Guts......BOB - I woudl have gladly eaten the Crow ala Rupp.....He played well, as did everybody......OLA - Still near DC...I may have tix for Game 6 if there is one...so be it if my two kids have to drop out of college for a semester.!.........STEVIE - Funny on the METYRO..Did you seethe people stampeding to the exits the second the goal was scored...funny.....Two things on the game, I don''t think the Rangers won becasue they were better conditioned in the OT.....It was just their "wave"....The Caps dominated the 3rd period..and the Rangers and Caps took turns surging and falling back in the first two OTs....This was a Ranger surge, fueled by winning the puck along the baords and shear determination...More then likely, a Caps surge would come in the next 5 minute......DUGSTER - Did you really see bullying? I jsut saw an evenly physical game, and the Rangers were even the better team along the boards..Hendricks did run a little wild though, but mostly clean...That's his game....we don't really have a 3rd/4th liner like him...But wee do have Cally...
Hospo
Thu May 3 2012 8:54 am EST
Morning all: What a great game, especially when your team wins... We did not hit them hard enough. On their 2nd goal Staal should have laid Carlson out instead of attempting the stick check ala Purseboy. The Craps travers East West quite a bit & the opportunity for clean hits that lay these boys out are there.We up the bangeroos a bit, I think we win a little easier. Great Win. Good day everybody
mf
Thu May 3 2012 8:51 am EST
Given how "fresh" (relative term) we were in the OT's vs how the Caps were, I would have to think that not only losing the game is a setback but the psychological shot it delivered was pretty potent. This team played exactly the same way throughout the game and never let up. Blocked shots, took the body etc and looked fresher at the end of the game. There were pics of Cally smiling on the bench in the 3rd OT for god sake!!! Iwouldnt underestimate how much this loss will get into the Caps heads....
PatrickDiv
Thu May 3 2012 8:38 am EST
I tihnk that last night is why torts runs camp so hard, and gets his guys to work so hard in the off season. They had more left in the tank, even though the Caps were rolling 4 lines and 6 D. NOW McD was quoted last night saying he didn't need a IV or anything and that he didn't feel exhausted at all. I mean, they guy has been known for his fitness, but my goodness, what a beast. I feel like Torts played his top guys a TON in the OT periods, and Hunter didn't....but what the hell are you saving players in OT for? You want to win NOW not save your players for the next OT. He played Ovechkin for LESS time in the OTs than in regulation. If it kept going, perhaps the Rangers loose because of that, but it seemed like in a way, the Caps were playing NOT TO LOOSE and the Rangers were playing TO WIN.
Wildcard
Thu May 3 2012 8:22 am EST
All I kept thinking was how great a game it was we were seeing - the way a clean modern hockey playoff game should be. While I wanted the Rangers to win so badly, I also knew that if they lost I would have still seen a classic with everyone from both sides giving it their all - willing their bodies to overcome the pain and fatigue to battle on. I also thought back to training camp and Tort's insistence on conditioning and believed that the longer it went on the better our chances - we looked like we had more jump at the end than the Caps. Great game!
Ranger47
Thu May 3 2012 8:03 am EST
Wow- What an insane game,,,,,,posts after post,,,,,,,,,My heart cant take this shit,,at 55 im too damn old,,,,,,Wonderful game played by both teams, Kinda felt that the Caps were bullying us around most of the game , im sure Torts message was no retaleiation penelties or your riding the pines,,,,,,Rupp seems to fall down alot doesnt he? This game had to kill the caps spirit dont you think?.....Gabby was not very good until the 2nd OT, he was easily pushed off the puck,,,,,,,,,,,Cally is fucking amazing,,,,,what heart this guy has,,,,,,,,He is so young,,,,,,,,,amazing game,,LeTs gO RaNgErS
thedugster
Thu May 3 2012 7:57 am EST
Besides not having any fingernails left from that incredible game last night all I kept thinking and saying out loud was "THANK YOU MTL FOR McD"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh yeah, I just bought the 27 jersey for my 9 yr old.
PatrickDiv
Thu May 3 2012 7:51 am EST
if the game went past 1am, the metro would have been closed.....that's a helluva town.......
stevielegs
Thu May 3 2012 7:43 am EST
TD: Pressbox Bickel and dress Dubi in his place...rather that than another less than 4 minute game from The Bick....download silly. Cannot believe Eminger is worse....
RF4L
Thu May 3 2012 7:24 am EST
My liver can't handle games like that and I think I'm suffering some sort of brain damage from listening to the NBC announcers for nearly five hours...but what a finish!!! Couple things...TORTORELLA either knows his team better than they know themselves or he took a MAJOR roll of the dice by shortening his bench they way he did throughout the game...I understand you have to bring your best horses to the big race...but BICKEL at less than four minutes in a triple OT game? That's simply tempting fate in a way you don't want in games like that...Also, I was kind of surprised to see MITCHELL only logged 13-plus minutes...I agree with the notion that he played his best game as a Ranger last night...ditto with RUPP...Interesting that the one line that almost won it all was RUPP-BOYLE-GABORIK. Washington didn't have an answer for that one, and you can't blame Hunter. Boyle was good in the faceoff circle and having two huge guys out there with Gaborik kind of force the Caps to triage...they could either shadow Gabs or try to contain the two big guys...they tried to contain Gabs and Rupp came just a couple inches of Boyle's buttcheek away from winning it...The win also prevented me(us) from having to hear more of OvechFest on NBC...man...I realize he's probably the only player a fair-weather fan will pick out of a box score now that the Penguins are gone...but seriously...the guy has fallen just short of irrelevant in this series. I was watching him last night and his whole approach to the game is just f@cked...Used to be he'd turn it up and rip the knob off at the start of the game...well now, he turns it up ONLY when he has the puck and is entering the zone...teams(especially the Rangers) now just throw two bodies on him...he predictably dodges one and then either gets nailed by the other or has the puck stripped because he's still flying through the air...then it's back to floating around disinterestedly...and yet NBC can't get enough of him...Read this morning DUBINSKY is in Washington. Thought is he'll dress for Saturday's game...Someone asked last night if anyone misses Dubes...and it's funny, 'cause I was thinking just that around period 2: Man, this team could use Dubinsky....would be tough to sit either Mitchell or Rupp after that game and KREIDER is going nowhere...but this team could have really used another high-impact player...and JEEZE could the PP use the little midget. Kind of doubt we see ZUCCARELLO unless there's an injury...I just don't see Torts sitting both Rupp and Mitchell...but the way he's managing the bench, maybe it would be worth benching Mitchell and Bickell to get Zucc four minutes on the man-advantage.
tdchi
Thu May 3 2012 6:39 am EST
The Whale also picked up an OT win last night in Norfolk, to beat the Admirals 3-2 and get a 1-0 jump on their second round series. Norfolk recently went on a 29 game winning streak, and this was only their second loss since 2/3. I didn't see the game so don't have much to comment on. Goal scorers were JAM, HRIVIK and THURESSON. And DYLAN MCILRATH did not play, though he did join the team on Tuesday. Game 2 is tomorrow in Norfolk.
Dineen11
Thu May 3 2012 2:12 am EST
The NYR in 3rd OT looked a step quicker then the Caps. Whether by better conditioning or by youthful enthusiasm, the game as I saw it was slipping away from Washington. They had a few spurts but as a collective? They were much closer to being done then the NYR were. McD is a straight machine. And how about that CK? The guy played huge minutes. And Gabby finally got off of the toilet bowl. I complained earlier that the best players need to be their best and obviously Gaborik finally was able to break out.
E
Thu May 3 2012 1:43 am EST
Hospo- Do you (still?) live in Washintgon?
Ola
Thu May 3 2012 1:42 am EST
Lol, I had 35 minutes to watch the game this morning (and yes, the tenders at kids day care shaked their heads when they saw how my kids subsequently were dressed).
Ola
Thu May 3 2012 12:23 am EST
NICK-----I am sure that HOSPO was glad that Boyle got his ass in front of the Rupp shot, or he would have had to come on here eating crow tonight.
Bob
Thu May 3 2012 12:21 am EST
Hockey players -- any team -- are the greatest. Those exhaustion faces, stitches, bloody jerseys ... and still blocking shots after 110 minutes if pressurized play. Incredible. Great win, but everything looks preordained after it happens. I'm sure our conditioning is good but equally sure the Caps aren't slackers, and if that tip of Wideman's shot goes in ... but Gabby hit iron and Rupp hit ass and Ovie hit iron ... I'm just glad we took this one! Will we EVER have an easy game???
Nick
Thu May 3 2012 12:14 am EST
The Rangers sure had all sorts of energy in the 3rd OT. I am so happy Gabby got the goal, especially after all the crap that Milbury has been spewing about him. Brad Richards has been everything he was advertised to be in these playoffs. It is a good thing they don't play until Saturday. If they can pull that one out, they should get some time off.
Bob
Thu May 3 2012 12:12 am EST
Our conditioning was a difference in this one...We were fresher in the third OT than the Caps.....Great win Rangers....Get some rest....
PJ
Thu May 3 2012 12:07 am EST
Amazed at how clean the game was for all 6 periods...alot of hitting, but none of that bullshit that Philly and PItt threw around........Good to watch..Well, becasue they won!
Hospo
Thu May 3 2012 12:02 am EST
FREAKING AAAAA! What a bunch of damn ball busters these Rangers are...Yeah, I think the Rangers were lucky to get to OT the way the Caps had the advantage in the 3rd.......but, with a nod to David Clayton Thomas, what a display of blood, sweat in tears during the overtime....Ebb and flow....very even...but every single Ranger busted his ass out their...and they never crumbled physically or mentally...They deserved the winner the way they started to take control at the end, even if it was probably a temporary shift......Get some rest boys, worse it can be is tied 2-2 going back to NY...The Hat should be worn by everyone tonight.......As for the Bickel, thing, you guys know my feeling on Sather nad the lack of depth, but Torts is in a hard place.....I can't blame him for not throwing a cold and Stiff Bick into the game......Damn, so pumped by the wind I almost forgot about the nauseating PP---2 of them--which almost destroyed them,....Oh well, that can;t be changed till next year........
Hospo
Wed May 2 2012 11:45 pm EST
And if anyone's still up, the photo on the Rangers' website is awesome: http://rangers.nhl.com/
Rexi29
Wed May 2 2012 11:44 pm EST
McD, for DEEEFENSE. 53 minutes and change on the ice! And how many were logged after he absorbed that monster hit? I gotta tell ya, I'm shopping for a #27 jersey
Rexi29
Wed May 2 2012 11:43 pm EST
gab-bay gab-bay gab-bay......need 10 more wins......
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:38 pm EST
Gaborik, Gaborik, Gaborik.... I couldnt have scripted this win any better... Sure hope the NYR trainers have the secret hydration formula on tap... those guys will all need IVs tonight... Amazing game@!
schneidw
Wed May 2 2012 11:36 pm EST
Thank you Gabby, King and the rest of the Rangers ( save Bickel) for giving it your all and getting the win.
pete
Wed May 2 2012 11:34 pm EST
bickel 3.24 absurd but they won
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:30 pm EST
GABBY! Hope this gives him a jumpstart.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 11:29 pm EST
Rangers were definitely in better shape than the Caps, particularly in the 3rd OT. The were the "fresher" team by far....they earned this win with their hard work and their conditioning. Thank goodness Gabby got the goal and we won....if it had gone the other way after he clanged one off the crossbar......brrrr, don't even want to think what it would do to his confidence. But now maybe the opposite will happen and he'lll go on a scoring binge. But for now, I'll just bask in this fantastic win....tired but happy!!
JFC31
Wed May 2 2012 11:27 pm EST
The NBCSN post came is so slanted to the caps it makes me wanna puke. Wow, I don't understand why the coverage is leaning this way but it is not a lot of fun to listen to especially after a 3OT win. FU NBC!
DCIGolfer
Wed May 2 2012 11:27 pm EST
"Happy Ending" :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) :->) "Lets Go Rangers !!!
mf
Wed May 2 2012 11:27 pm EST
"after midnight we're going to let it all hang out"
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:26 pm EST
Extra days rest will sure be needed.....Have to be a tired bunch....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 11:26 pm EST
NN: Cally deserves an 'honorary" .... the guy is an "energizer"
mf
Wed May 2 2012 11:25 pm EST
I am too wired to sleep ......great win for us .. Gabby scores, breaks the OT losing streak, we got home ice back ...If Bickel ain't playin don't bother to dress the guy .. might as well put Emminger in...
sjw
Wed May 2 2012 11:25 pm EST
Lots of kudos to go around defensively - Staal (another tremendous game), Girardi, McDonagh and MDZ all played superb and guys like Cally (still blocking shots in the 3rd OT!) and BB were solid. Some good 4th line shifts, too. And Hagelin and Kreider were still zipping around at the end....
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 11:24 pm EST
RHET: According to Yahoo the 3 Stars were Gabby, Hank and Holtby
DOUBLEN
Wed May 2 2012 11:23 pm EST
Lack of sleep doesn't bother me....Will wake up happy after this win...I am watching the MSG postgame right now.....Glorious win......
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 11:22 pm EST
Wow great game an instant classic
tlats
Wed May 2 2012 11:22 pm EST
rhet they up it to 6, 1 for each ot
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:22 pm EST
Very happy for Gaborik. He was so tired he could barely lift his arms to celebrate. Amazing.
Bob
Wed May 2 2012 11:22 pm EST
Rangers conditioning really showed tonight... some of the teams best play was in the OT periods... Great Game!
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 11:21 pm EST
I'll actually be able to sleep tonight... Thanks Gabby... now that's the way you get off the schnide!!!!
Tucc
Wed May 2 2012 11:21 pm EST
thank you hockey gods and gaborik and holebe's 5 hole
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:20 pm EST
Do they still do the three stars of the game after triple OT?
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 11:19 pm EST
Way to go Gabby! Surprised Torts allowed Bickel on the ice to congratulate him.
TrueBlue10
Wed May 2 2012 11:19 pm EST
WOW! LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!
Z
Wed May 2 2012 11:19 pm EST
HOLY SH!T what a freakin' game! GAAAAAABY! One of the gutsiest displays I have ever seen by a Rangers team....maybe THE gutsiest! Blocking shots, battling through exhaustion, literally giving their blood to win this game. AMAZING!!!
JFC31
Wed May 2 2012 11:18 pm EST
So nice to see the Rangers win in Washington and Gabbie scoring the OT winner. Well deserved!
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 11:18 pm EST
suck it pierre
Topovski
Wed May 2 2012 11:18 pm EST
Gotta say, the Caps owned large portions of this game but the Rangers controlled the OT. Surprising considering the ridiculous ice times of some of these rangers. Gutsy Gutsy win.
cnparda
Wed May 2 2012 11:17 pm EST
Now how do I get to sleep?? All wound up!
DCIGolfer
Wed May 2 2012 11:16 pm EST
they pass the puck more than the 7santini brothers on the pp
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:15 pm EST
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Topovski
Wed May 2 2012 11:15 pm EST
MY TOE
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:15 pm EST
He was due!!!!
NV94
Wed May 2 2012 11:15 pm EST
FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! GABBY!
DCIGolfer
Wed May 2 2012 11:15 pm EST
I am just shocked,totally speechless.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 2 2012 11:14 pm EST
Called it.....Gabby in OT! YEEEEESSSSSS
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 11:14 pm EST
Matteau, Matteau, Matteau, Matteau, !!!!!!
mf
Wed May 2 2012 11:14 pm EST
GABORIKKKKKKKK SCORRRRRREEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 11:13 pm EST
YES
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:10 pm EST
play bickel on the 5th line, confuse the craps
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:09 pm EST
nn that was stemmer
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:09 pm EST
richard's b day is over
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:05 pm EST
RF4L......agreed. The dopey lines are different each shift.
Bob
Wed May 2 2012 11:04 pm EST
Torts strategy, waiting until the 4th OT to put Bickel in as he'll be the freshest player on the ice, why did he even bother asking him to suit up tonight?
TrueBlue10
Wed May 2 2012 11:00 pm EST
Maybe we will have another #21 score in Triple OT, just like 1971
DOUBLEN
Wed May 2 2012 10:58 pm EST
Can we please go stick side one time on Holtby???
DCIGolfer
Wed May 2 2012 10:57 pm EST
Powerless play. No shots!
NV94
Wed May 2 2012 10:52 pm EST
Is there blood?
pete
Wed May 2 2012 10:52 pm EST
And honestly, more blame lies with Sather for not getting a decent spare defenseman at the deadline if they knew Sauer was done.
chinstrap
Wed May 2 2012 10:51 pm EST
It's easy to blame Torts for the D ice times tonight, but it's worked so far in the playoffs, and you can't go into a game thinking you're going to triple OT. Hard to put a guy like Bickel in who has no feel for the game because he's sat so long, even if he's fresh. I think they might need to work him in this OT though. I remember back in the day Petr Klima being benched all game like Bickel and scoring in triple OT (I think)...but its a lot different for a forward to get worked in at this point in the game.
chinstrap
Wed May 2 2012 10:51 pm EST
'm sure she hopes so.....some idiot fan threw a quarter at her.....cheapskate fly some 20's....
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 10:47 pm EST
This is stressful to say the least....Let's get one and end the night the right way....LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 10:45 pm EST
Bob: Just plain stupid IMO. Cannot be justified. Are the Rangers that thin on the backline...reallyÉÉÉÉ
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 10:43 pm EST
47 minutes for McD. 3:45 for Bickel. He has watched more than an entire game from the bench since he last skated tonight.
Bob
Wed May 2 2012 10:42 pm EST
Rupp had this game won if Boyle didn't have his big a$$ in the way.... I had to look online to see how many saves Hank had... while Holtby's numbers have been mentioned more than once (this includes the intermission), they forgot to mention Lundqvist's.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 10:42 pm EST
Brooksie: A reliable source ay? I mena StevieLegs: Is she gonna help us win? :->)
mf
Wed May 2 2012 10:40 pm EST
I like Tortorella but this is just stupid: Stu Bickel - 3 shifts, 3:24 on ice, in a 100 minute 4 hour hockey game
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 10:39 pm EST
Rupp has the game winner lined up .. hits Boyle in the ass ... geez we are jinxed .. the stress is killin me...
sjw
Wed May 2 2012 10:38 pm EST
emerick looks like a rummy to me, and he screams about anything and everything......get your flask out .......
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 10:36 pm EST
When is the last time Bickel saw the ice....
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 10:35 pm EST
2 Words.... RYAN CALLAHAN.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 10:33 pm EST
Emrick calls the wrong ranger name more than he does the right. He is awful!
DCIGolfer
Wed May 2 2012 10:33 pm EST
MF I have it from a reliable source , there is a female nyr fan who is at the game tonight, who was at that game in 94.......
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 10:30 pm EST
oy vey is this gut wrenching..... Where's Mottau?
mf
Wed May 2 2012 10:27 pm EST
4THline has played good
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 10:26 pm EST
bs on taking time on icing.....7 d would have been helpful, but.......
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 10:23 pm EST
Worst shooting team ever.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 2 2012 10:03 pm EST
I heave a feeling the Rangers are going to get called for a cheap penalty and the Caps will score on the PP to win. I hope I'm wrong.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 10:03 pm EST
come on hockey gods
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 10:00 pm EST
pete: Tortorella is stubborn - at least he`s played the 4th line a little more.
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 9:58 pm EST
pete....Absolutely agree...Need to play all 6 D....Playoffs actually require it....Bickel just isn't that bad and our other D are wearing down.....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 9:58 pm EST
WTF? Can we please win? I've been pissy all day, and need a, "happy ending!" :->) pun intended!
mf
Wed May 2 2012 9:57 pm EST
Shootout next right? For the bonus point.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 9:57 pm EST
pete - no idea, but the shorter bench is going to test our D even more as we start 2OT...
josh29
Wed May 2 2012 9:56 pm EST
Mitchell has actually played pretty good tonight....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 9:56 pm EST
they have played some good possession, but they need to bury the puck. shoot high, aim for this kid's head.
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 9:56 pm EST
Aside from the bad pass last game, can someone tell me what Bickel has done to deserve a benching every 3rd period. And if Torts doesn't trust him, why play him over emminger? Are either really worse than the Caps 6th defenseman?
pete
Wed May 2 2012 9:55 pm EST
Well, we survived the 1st OT. Do we get a point?
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 9:55 pm EST
If we can find a way in this one I believe we take the series over...Easier said than done....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 9:54 pm EST
DoubleN -- You're not kidding. McD had a few great chances and didn't get the puck to the net. A shot to the net and who knows - deflection, rebound, etc. Instead, he backpedals and passes laterally. DAMMIT, SHOOT! (btw - kudos to Hank for the save on the rebound after Ovie hit the post. Stilla live puck, and Hank was in position and made that key save, which the commentators seemed to miss. I think Emrick is VERY overrated.)
josh29
Wed May 2 2012 9:53 pm EST
And dammit, when will AA show up for the POs....
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 9:52 pm EST
You are always more tired and work sucks even more when the Rangers lose a game like this.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 9:51 pm EST
Going by true chances and who's been in control, the Rangers are lucky they haven't lost yet, IMO. They sure aren't much fun when they are on the losing end of chances and bodychecks.
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 9:51 pm EST
Well we won't get the next penalty call...Stralman may not be great but we can't play 4 D and win......
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 9:50 pm EST
come on nyr , there's work tomorrow....win this sucker.....
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 9:50 pm EST
The Rangers are trying to score by osmosis.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 9:49 pm EST
SHOOT THE PUCK BARRY!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 9:44 pm EST
Noticed some time in the Ottawa series that Stralman's play was really slipping. He's been terrible lately. And I've been a fan this year.
chinstrap
Wed May 2 2012 9:35 pm EST
RANGERITIS..FEAR OF SHOOTING THE PUCK.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 2 2012 9:25 pm EST
Can someone lay hendricks out!
DCIGolfer
Wed May 2 2012 9:22 pm EST
rhet dubinsky who?
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 9:17 pm EST
Hopefully I am wrong, but I have no faith in this team to score in OT.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 2 2012 9:16 pm EST
I can't wait for MZA to be back... we need another speed guy, not another checker.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 9:16 pm EST
B Rich gets the GWG on his Birthday
DCIGolfer
Wed May 2 2012 9:15 pm EST
Stevie... You really think Dubi would score?
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 9:15 pm EST
Gabby the winner in OT....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 9:14 pm EST
I think legally I can now put out a missing person report for for Mr. Gaborik. He has been missing for over for well over 48 hours.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 9:14 pm EST
anyone miss dubinsky?
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 9:13 pm EST
if Nash was in this lineup, the game probably would have been won in regulation.
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 9:11 pm EST
BTW, the Rangers pathetic recent OT record might play into their hands, because it cannot go on indefinitely....
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 9:10 pm EST
Rangers need to be around the net with their sticks on the ice.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 9:10 pm EST
Rhet: This is Ranger offensive hockey we've seen way too many times over the recent years: Shots from the perimeter and no one driving the net. The problem is, they don't have someone of that ilk (although Kreider might get there eventually). Now imagine this team and Rick Nash in the line-up.....
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 9:09 pm EST
I agree the Rangers need a quick goal. In order to do that they have to shoot the puck...and hit the net!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 9:09 pm EST
And we also stopped hitting their D-men while the Caps began creaming ours..back to Ranger hockey guys...
Hospo
Wed May 2 2012 9:06 pm EST
The Caps have got us playing their game....Way too much room...Not Ranger hockey....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 9:05 pm EST
Hope the Rangers are drinking some magic elixir right now because the Caps owned them in that period....One of theoir worst stetches in the POs IMO....The Rangers looked dead...too many guys standing stilll..dead tired...They need to get a goal quick and get out...We'll see...
Hospo
Wed May 2 2012 9:04 pm EST
Sather needs to get somebody that's not afraid to shoot the puck! It's that simple.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 9:03 pm EST
To be honest we should never have been on the PP....We had a great second period but a poor third...This playing 5 D doesn't work....Can we finally get one in OT?
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 9:03 pm EST
They're skating well, winning face offs, but man they couldn't hit the ocean by falling out of the boat.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 9:03 pm EST
OMG, another ridiculously inept offensive display by the Rangers, making Holtby look like an all-star. That guy didn't have to make a single difficult save and the only Ranger goal was off 2 Caps and caroomed in front. It's so clear to me what Sather needs to go after this summer....
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 9:03 pm EST
Rangers will lose in OT! As usual
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 9:02 pm EST
guess refs didn't want ot but screw them...same pay.......scratch.....
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 9:02 pm EST
Lundqvist better dig deep... he's only ever won one OT Playoff game... This is where hardly playing the 4th line could come back to bite us in the ass.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 9:01 pm EST
Watching that last Rangers powerless play hurt my eyes! It was like staring directly at the sun.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 8:58 pm EST
I don't know if the Rangers know the objective of the game is to put the puck in the net!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 8:56 pm EST
Richards touched the puck first... weak call.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 8:55 pm EST
Not again Richards....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 8:31 pm EST
Staal is a beast tonight!
NV94
Wed May 2 2012 8:29 pm EST
Yes it was I'm just down on Gaborik.
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 8:29 pm EST
thedoc-- classic, i do wonder if gabby has any hockey sense what so ever , other than shot -score. his movement with out the puck is questionable , and he can't seem to anticipate or make the simplest plays at times..
doct
Wed May 2 2012 8:27 pm EST
wasn't it Staal, who did a bickle?
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 8:27 pm EST
Scratch Gaborik for Zuccarello!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 8:24 pm EST
MDZ seems to be everywhere tonight
E
Wed May 2 2012 8:17 pm EST
thedoc: Yep, but the bigger gaffe was Stralman giving the puck up in the Cap corner....that and the fact that the King was too far back in his net and clearly not ready for the shot...
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 8:13 pm EST
Here's the good news-----Gabby noticed that Stralman was moving the puck into the Caps zone and covered his point. Here's the bad news-----Gabby backed up and chose to leave the puck carrier alone in order to cover the ever dangerous usher in the third row in the corner
thedoc85
Wed May 2 2012 8:13 pm EST
We will get nothing from the refs....Incidental contact on the hit on Callahan?...Then he gets called for a phantom retaliation....Carlson runs into Richards last game and the call on Richards costs us the game....It isn't going to change....We have to keep pressure on their D....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 8:13 pm EST
Another game, another horse shit call. Cally gets wiped out 5 seconds after he has the puck and no call and then he gets called for a love tap? I don't know why i bother watching. And then i have to listen to the schmucks on nbc sports saying what a tough game Hendricks is playing. The NHL is an effin farce.
Fotiu22
Wed May 2 2012 8:13 pm EST
Gaborik is trying to force a play almost everytime he has the puck. He needs to relax....
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 8:13 pm EST
Caps scored on kind of a 1 on 3 can't let that happen!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 8:08 pm EST
If Callahan lines up a Cap like Hendricks lit up Anisimov, he gets called for a charge every time! BS
DCIGolfer
Wed May 2 2012 8:07 pm EST
Way too wide open for Ranger hockey....We have to stay on their D though...Wearing them down....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 8:06 pm EST
a lot better on possession game
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 8:01 pm EST
HENRIK on his kness gets beat high, no screen......oh well....
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 7:59 pm EST
Callahan did nothing on the retaliation and he get's called? WTF.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 7:58 pm EST
Refs deciding the game again
rngrsans
Wed May 2 2012 7:56 pm EST
come on!
rngrsans
Wed May 2 2012 7:56 pm EST
Appropo of nothing really, I just want to say that Caps fans are my least favorite. They're the perfect combination of hockey fan mook and redneck. DO I feel this way because I had a beer dumped on me in Landover in '86? I do.
Rexi29
Wed May 2 2012 7:54 pm EST
Rhet: a little karmic payback from game 2?
Rexi29
Wed May 2 2012 7:48 pm EST
RHET: Everytime Mitchell is on the ice, I am wating for something bad to happen.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 2 2012 7:48 pm EST
We didn't score because we did anything well... we scored because Troy Brouwer screwed up.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 7:46 pm EST
Am I going to jinx him if I say that Mitchell looks pretty good tonight?
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 7:44 pm EST
CALLY...will take that bit of luck with the puck hitting Hendricks..that's the type of thing that happens to the Rangers.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 2 2012 7:43 pm EST
The Captain! MDZ is flying tonight....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 7:43 pm EST
SCORRRREEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 7:43 pm EST
CALLI-MAN
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 7:43 pm EST
CALLY
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 7:43 pm EST
When ever NBC talks about the Rangers for more than 10 seconds, it's to set up how it relates to the Caps... "The Rangers plan of attack on Holtby"... was actually so they could keep the camera on Holtby the entire time... longer than they actually talked about the Rangers, even though nothing's going on.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 7:43 pm EST
Rangers PowerPlay with MDZ on the point..good chance he will shoot high and wide.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 2 2012 7:40 pm EST
If the Rangers shoot wide again I'm gonna scream!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 7:31 pm EST
Grind it out!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 7:30 pm EST
Agreed...Wide open favors the Caps big time.....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 7:30 pm EST
Agreed.
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 7:29 pm EST
Paging Mr. Gaborik!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 7:29 pm EST
much too wide open....nyr need to play possession game, not run and gun......
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 7:24 pm EST
Screens, deflections, and rebounds!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 7:22 pm EST
Screens, deflections, and rebounds!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 7:21 pm EST
I agree, but hit the net!
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 7:21 pm EST
Hank holding up his end of the deal so far....Boyle looks much better tonight...Don't believe we have any shots off rebounds yet...LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 7:20 pm EST
Slow start for the Rangers, but they are starting to get their legs. Just need to keep shooting at Holtby from all directions...
Tucc
Wed May 2 2012 7:20 pm EST
The Rangers need a shooting clinic! They can't hit the net! They shoot high and wide constantly and the puck goes hard around and out of the zone. If there is nothing to shoot at shoot it low at the goalis's pads and create a rebound. .
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 7:03 pm EST
the NN that stinks, i'm trying radio but they are behind for part of the game, then eventually ahead of the tv. ....not a fan of the screaming guy with the drunk nose.
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 7:01 pm EST
STEVIE: MSG is covering the games, via the one hour post game shows.
DOUBLEN
Wed May 2 2012 6:56 pm EST
i thought sam nose and knowslittletti said msg was covering all of the playoff games
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 6:54 pm EST
Hey NBC, why don't we ever see statistics like that on the Rangers?
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 6:45 pm EST
RHET: Its a must win. You want to come home with 3. If you lose you are at risk of losing the series. At worst a split. NYR need this game especially. I think a win here rattles them.
E
Wed May 2 2012 6:34 pm EST
I know it's not technically a must win, but the Rangers need to win this one to set the tone of the series... Lundqvist needs to come up big... GO HARD OR GO HOME... Let's Go Rangers!!!
Rhet0ric
Wed May 2 2012 6:32 pm EST
Turn on Kenny Albert and Dave Maloney
LetsGoRangers
Wed May 2 2012 6:32 pm EST
LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO
thedugster
Wed May 2 2012 6:32 pm EST
LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 6:23 pm EST
Guys--who cares who they talk about before the game,,,,I want them talking about my team after WE BEAT THE FUCKING CAPS AFTER THE GAME.....lEtS Go rAnGeRs!!!!!
thedugster
Wed May 2 2012 6:20 pm EST
Holy SHIT..I can't believe the verbal handjob these NBC schmucks are giving the Capitals...They did it again...said OVECHKIN didn't skate much on Monday because Dale Hunter is 'such a good coach and this is his team and he knows how to use OV and blah blah blah..." F@CK, the game hasn't even started and I already want to kick my goddamn TV...might need to reach for the 40 oz and liberal grab from the drug drawer tonight, boys...
tdchi
Wed May 2 2012 6:18 pm EST
NBC pregame all Caps....Unbelievable...You would think Dale Hunter was Scotty Bowman....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 5:05 pm EST
RF4L - I would actually be surprised if the RANGERS sign EMINGER. Even if you take SAUER out of the picture(I wouldn't...he'll be back next year if not later in the playoffs), you have GIRARDI and BICKELl, who I'm pretty sure they'll keep. Then there's a very good chance we'll have ERIXON in camp looking for a defensive spot...and if for whatever reason they don't think he's ready, you'll probably see STRALMAN resigned(I'd say there's a 75 percent chance he's offered some sort of contract after the season)...That's not even taking into consideration the chance that McILRATH has of making the team. Emmy and Woywoy are done. They ain't coming back.
tdchi
Wed May 2 2012 4:28 pm EST
just hope I'm not right about dressing both of them if he doesn't......
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 3:19 pm EST
RF4L: I think you're reading a little too much into whether Eminger will re-sign. He did last summer after being benched in favor of Gilroy for the playoffs. Fact is that he's a 7th defenseman who just missed almost 20 games. It's a pretty risky time to put a guy like that in the lineup. It's not like it's Mike Sauer we're talking about.
chinstrap
Wed May 2 2012 3:17 pm EST
They were blowing up Mike Green on the forecheck Monday night. He was afraid to get to the puck first. Let's keep that type of pressure on them tonight and force some easy turnovers that can be converted to easy goals!
DCIGolfer
Wed May 2 2012 2:43 pm EST
I could use a game without alot of stress also but I am not hopeful of that...Even if we get a lead we will sit on it till they get back in it....But I do agree a 5-1 game would be much easier on the old ticker....Will settle for any type of win though....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 2:34 pm EST
Hospo: Of course, but that's the thing - it seems Tortorella doesn't trust Eminger. Not that I really care much but I'd be surprised to see him resign this summer, unless of course, no one else comes a-courting....
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 12:29 pm EST
Man, It would be so cool if the Rangers had an offensive ((explosion))) tonight!! One of those games where everything they put on net finds it way in. These super tight, low scoring, cardiac arrest games are really wearing me the heck out. Fingers crossed for a blowout' win for our Blueshirts!
hipcheck
Wed May 2 2012 12:29 pm EST
RF4L - I have no prob with Bickel playing, but I also kinda disagree....If you think another player can give you more benefits (or less mistakes) you play that player..Simple as that...Feelings..development... etc mean zero...But obviioulsly, Torts doesn;'t feel that Emminger can give much..So Bickel is the only option
Hospo
Wed May 2 2012 12:19 pm EST
Regarding Sauer - I gotta say that there should a concern about this guy's future. If I'm not mistaken, his brother hasn't played for a very long time due to post-concussion issues. Clearly how suspectible someone is to the injury and it's severity varies from individual to individual and is part of that person's physical (and probably mental makeup). Both Lindros brothers suffered from a being suspectible to concussions, to the point where Brett retired at something like 22 (and Eric probably should have retired long before he did). The Sauer boys appear to have the same vulnerability....
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 12:16 pm EST
IMO, there's no way Bickel should be pressboxed. Yes that pass attempt was stupid, but this is what you get when you play young/inexperienced players. If Bickel does something similarly stupid tonight, then for sure he should be in civvies the next game. What he needs to realize (and the other low minute players like Rupp) is that for your 7 minutes, you play it safe. Always. You do that and maybe next game you'll get 10 minutes....
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 12:15 pm EST
If Practice is any indicator, accoriding to GORMELY from Wash...the Caps are reuniting OV with Backstrom and Johanssen to get more offense..Hunter probably feels more comfortable with the last line change....Both the Richards and Stepan lines will ahve to play solid D......And if the D doesn't step up to lay OV out as he crosses the ice, perhaps CALLY will?
Hospo
Wed May 2 2012 12:14 pm EST
I'd rather see both Bickel and EbingerEminger in......just in case......
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 12:10 pm EST
STEVIE - That goes withiout saying, a win is win..even if Rupp scores a hat-trick! But seriously, take 19 players and alot of heroes each night..
Hospo
Wed May 2 2012 12:08 pm EST
According to GROSS, Seems like same lineup for tonight (Bickel still in)...For good or bad, Torts is showing faith in his players...The Media may hate him, but I think his players like him alot...
Hospo
Wed May 2 2012 12:08 pm EST
HOSPO the goal is to win the game, how that happens doesn't matter. They need to take command of this series, and not go to 7 if possible. Don't care to go 16 -12 , but I'll take it.
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 12:08 pm EST
Hopefully, the King stays in his net tonight.
Bob
Wed May 2 2012 12:03 pm EST
PJ - totally understandable about Boyle's game the other night, but still true ..I really hope he is fully recoverted.....JFC - Like I said yesterday, MZA means nothing to me for this series...We need more physicality and banging...Dubi is missed.......STEVIE - Except for 1 game in the Ottaw serie, The King has been far from besieged by shots...He has played well...but so has the team msotly..total team effort is needed...NO MISTAKES!!!
Hospo
Wed May 2 2012 11:50 am EST
it's time for the TEAM to carry The King more........
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 11:38 am EST
Good news about Zuccarello getting close. We absolutely need to get the PP working.....we've blown key chances to put games away because we can't put the puck in the net with the man advantage. I'm looking for The King to be a 4'x6' brick Wall tonight. Any chance of Oviechkin pulling a Radulov and being hung over?....nah, he lives with mom & dad
JFC31
Wed May 2 2012 10:50 am EST
Hank does need to have a big game tonight....Caps will come out strong in this one...We stay with it and we will win this game....Boyle stated he stunk Monday night...Says he has to play better....Nice to hear to be honest because I thought he was very tentative in that game which was understandable....We need him back and pounding on the Caps D....
PJ
Wed May 2 2012 10:36 am EST
Turn it intoSaturdays's game....Forecheck and Bang their D but otherwise play it Safe and wait for opportunities..They will come....Caps might be a little too amped up and most of their D is looking over their shoulders....Time fior The King to make up for his blunder the other day.
Hospo
Wed May 2 2012 10:11 am EST
TDCHI: yeah, that was an attempt at humor and the analogy isn't correct. With Sauer though it's just one thing after another. And so the idea that we need him is true, but we aren't going to see it for a while (at least opening day.) And so he just doesn't exist for me any more than Christian Thomas does. I hope he makes it back, he fit in nicely on the NYR blue line but these catastrophic injuries continue to mount to the point that I wonder what kind of hockey player we have at this point. And so I like him, I really do. We sure as hell need him right now. But we don't have him again. Right now, I don't see him as part of the big picture.
E
Wed May 2 2012 8:32 am EST
In that same contentious press conference yesterday, Torts was asked what he thought of Gabby's game Monday: "He was OK.” ... the media should know by now they're not getting anything of substance out of Torts in the postseason. If he's not going to talk about strategy -- and I don't blame him -- then there's really nothing to talk about, but these conferences are required so you get tortured sessions like yesterday.
Zebop
Wed May 2 2012 8:03 am EST
IMO, most of Tortorella's boorish behaviour with the media is orchestrated in effort to keep the negative focus on him and away from his players. I do believe sometimes he cannot help himself - he's impatient and a tad arrogant (although not to the extent many believe, I think) and dislikes the oftentimes mindless questions spewed out by so many media people, many of which don't take the time to understand the game and know the players they are asking about.
RF4L
Wed May 2 2012 7:56 am EST
“There was a number of different things I was trying to do,” he said. But when asked if he would share those, the answer was a terse, “No.” He even cut off a question about being a finalist for coach of the year. Tortorella said the time to ask about that was on Monday when it was announced he was among the top three in votes. So as long as the Rangers stay alive in the playoffs, the interaction between Tortorella and the growing number of media members will likely become more and more strained. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/rangers_coach_spars_with_reporters_qT0TxtOAAYJOAB47VNLMFI#ixzz1tiU8IEGJ................malonney thinks it will be why he doesn't win coach of the year...........
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 7:55 am EST
Nothing like knocking back vodkas until 4 a.m. when you've got a game at 5 p.m. Hell...who needs sleep when you have booze?: "Out until 4 a.m., according to one report, before an afternoon game. In the second round of Stanley Cup playoffs. A coach said Tuesday: "It's never good when you want to win more than they do." Trotz, the only coach the Nashville Predators have ever had, was quizzed privately after Sunday's 5 p.m. game - a second straight playoff loss to the Phoenix Coyotes - about two of his team's best offensive players being spotted drinking in Scottsdale (45 minutes away from the team's hotel in Glendale) in the early morning of Game 2. At the time, he professed to know nothing about it. Evidently it was members of the hard-working media corps who, against all odds, were perfectly positioned to witness the Preds' curfew-busting - research never sleeps - but once the rumour was confided to Trotz, the internal investigation began." Not to continue ganging up on the Russians...certainly there are some good ones...like DATSYUK...But jeesze, here's another gang of idiots from the motherland really looking to show they're a lot worse than their statistics and talent shows.
tdchi
Wed May 2 2012 7:46 am EST
"* Tortorella got snappy with the media when asked about the reason behind his abrupt and contentious press conferences this postseason. “Are you being a wise [guy]?” Tortorella asked the inquiring reporter. “I’m not going to give you much information. Some of you guys sit there and tell me I’m curt or whatever. I’m not going to have a staring contest. If you’re not going to ask me questions, I’ll just leave. That’s the way it is. I’m sorry I’m not a guy who wants to converse during the playoffs. I’m not.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/kreider_path_no_straight_line_wcdsQJIQAKd2bVluI9FIXN#ixzz1tiRo8o7z
stevielegs
Wed May 2 2012 7:10 am EST
E - I know you jest, but characterizing SAUER as suffering the type of career ending injury those other two did is really not accurate. The kid has had a rough go of it, much like ZUCCARELLO...a bunch of freak injuries...I think he's still a key part of this team, even if he's been out of sight for most of this season. I could see him and ERIXON starting on the right next year in place of BICKEL and STRALMAN...Bob - Totally agree on Unc(BTW...using the 'Uncle Daddy' moniker in front of any Devils fan is a good way to get them good and riled). I bet there are a number of guys who could put up BRODEUR-like stat if they had guys like STEVENS and NEIDERMEYER on the back line...HOSPO - I can't say I've been watching HAGELIN closely these playoffs, since he did disappear for three games...but I'm not so sure I agree with you on his failure to backcheck. He was the only forward that came close to getting back on BICKEL'S gaff. And in truth, as a winger, that really wasn't his job. The centerman is the guy who is supposed to give chase. As someone mentioned though, all three forwards were at or behind the goal line...and in truth, they wouldn't have needed to dart back had Bickel made the play just about any other defenseman would have made, which is to dump it along the boards. What he did defied all sense of logic in hockey. Rookie mistake easily attributed to nerves, but still a 'shoulda known better.' Can't blame that goal on any of the forwards. Even GABORIK coming back slow wasn't a bad play necessarily. Had WARD missed the net, the puck would have rifled around the boards to one of the two back checking forwards on the wing for an odd man rush.
tdchi
Wed May 2 2012 7:10 am EST
Nick...agreed. We truly do have a good nucleus of young players along with Gaby and Richards + a world class Goalie (unless he's handling the puck). I think a few strategic additions and we could make a run at a CUP the next couple of years. I truly hope Sauer recovers ala Staal and that we have him back next season.
MelvilleFred
Wed May 2 2012 2:46 am EST
Hospo- I agree on playing no-misstake hockey in Washington. In fact, that's what this team always should do early on. And why I feel that our inexperience is hurting us -- we seem to get too carried away. In G2, from the get go its not a tough situation for us. Its a very tough situation for Washington though. They cannot get something going against us. They are vunerable defensively, and have a rookie keeper (who albeit seem to be the real deal so to speak). There was alot to loose and little to win for us by roaring out of the gates trying to put them away in the first 10 minutes of the game. BECAUSE if you go down 1-0, a helluva lot is lost instantly. Then all of a sudden they can wait for our misstakes etc. I feel comfortable with this team if we have been composed for 30 minutes and the score is tied with 30 minutes to go.
Ola
Tue May 1 2012 11:30 pm EST
Sauer? Is that a real player? I remember a really good defenseman who played a game or two between catastrophic injuries. Is that the guy you are talking about? Because I think that guy might have just handed his resume to Cherneski & Blackburn Associates for the open mail room position. Could have used that guy right about now.
E
Tue May 1 2012 11:20 pm EST
Fred I looked for any update on Sauer and found nada. 6'3, 220, 25 years old. Signed through next year; I hope he comes back for 2012-13. Add him and Kreider, with maybe some deal(s) or a signing, and we might have a 3-4 year Cup window.
Nick
Tue May 1 2012 11:05 pm EST
....the one who suffered a concussion.....
MelvilleFred
Tue May 1 2012 11:05 pm EST
E....really? Sauer, as in our Physicall crease clearing "D" man.....
MelvilleFred
Tue May 1 2012 10:43 pm EST
Who is Sauer???
E
Tue May 1 2012 9:50 pm EST
Not that it matters but think of this team with a healthy Sauer in the lineup....instead of Bickel or Emminger!! Anyway there is absolutely no way I can root for the Flyers unless they are playing the Pens'. The problem I have with the Devils is Brodeur....for me sort of the Bruce Springsteen of Hockey...an arrogant littlle shit with talent.
MelvilleFred
Tue May 1 2012 9:28 pm EST
You guys crack me up, Fatso and Uncle Daddy! Okay, I'm sorry. I had a soft moment of appreciation. I'm back to hating him again.
nyfans
Tue May 1 2012 9:25 pm EST
Gutsy effort by the Devils but never could salute Fatso....Preds in trouble already down 2-0....Unspecified team rules...They stayed out all night in Phoenix....Selfish idiots way to let your teammates down...
PJ
Tue May 1 2012 9:21 pm EST
Salute Uncle Daddy? I'll pass. An arrogant jerk with some talent whose records are a product of the system his team has played for many years. His next job should be starring in a sitcom called "Family Relations"......I hope that series goes 7 games. I bet the Devils use the amnesty exception to get rid of Kovalchuk and that is what will convince Parise to stay.
Bob
Tue May 1 2012 9:12 pm EST
Gotta salute Marty Brodeur. 19 years with the Devils, 3 Stanley Cup championships and has been in the playoffs every year but two. 2 Olympic gold medals with Team Canada. I hate him when he plays the Rangers, but enjoy this legend while you still can...especially when he beats the Flygirls.
nyfans
Tue May 1 2012 9:07 pm EST
Radulov and Andrei Kostitsyn both suspended by the Predators for violating unspecified team rule(s). Ha - what a completely arrogant SOB Radulov is. Bolts for Russia then comes back, clearly riding a high horse, then first underachieves and now this. Go back to the KHL and it's sub-par hockey with its sub-par infrastructure, planes and medical. You deserve each other....
RF4L
Tue May 1 2012 6:48 pm EST
RF4L: the highest percentage of Gaborik's goals I don't believe are off of the rush but inside of 10' where he uses the ridiculous whip off of his snapshot. He just isn't getting to the net. He is being forced out but what concerns me is that great players find ways and to date he hasn't. Right now we need him to find that way.
E
Tue May 1 2012 3:33 pm EST
Who knows if Gabby is hurt - pure speculation. What isn't speculation is how tight these games - there's no room for anyone. How many break-aways and odd man rushes have we seen? The latter are the bread and butter of guys like Gabby. The prettiest goal of the series so far was Richard's last night and it was orchestrated by Gabby - when he had some room to move. Other than those in Philly, how many other big offenisve players are scoring in these POs? Richards leads the team with 8 points in 9 games - Gabbie is 2nd with 5.
RF4L
Tue May 1 2012 2:42 pm EST
BOB: I don't doubt that Gaborik is competing. I agree he has been playing really well. I just doubt that all those pucks put in the back of the net from him are real.
E
Tue May 1 2012 2:18 pm EST
I think he is shy a step too, Could be something with his legs. To be fair, on the Buckel screw up, all 3 forwards were behind the Caps goal line. None of the 3 made it back in time. It was late in the shift and their system dictates that Bickel goes down the boards with that puck. He nearly fell over backwards before the puck got there, panicked, and went across instead of eating it and buying time for the backcheck. He then misplayed the entire 3 on 2. It really was a series of major screw ups by him.
Bob
Tue May 1 2012 2:12 pm EST
BOB - Yes and no..I saw him do some physical things..but has loafed on his backchecking several times in the POs...He also dosn't look as fast or to have the acceleration as usual...maybe it's the dreaded groin again???
Hospo
Tue May 1 2012 1:41 pm EST
E--I hear you. Except I think that Gabby is putting it all out there. He has played physically and has not been invisible like he used to be when he is not scoring. Tortorella continues to put him out there, which I think bears this out. I think he is hurting to some degree, but I can't charge him with floating. I don't think that he is.
Bob
Tue May 1 2012 1:22 pm EST
contrary to what some say, they need a better pp that scores more often. MZA would be a help over Mitchell. ......
stevielegs
Tue May 1 2012 1:20 pm EST
E - Honestly, while I like the depth a healthy MZA would bring , I don't think he is at all what the Rangers need for the Caps..They need forecheckesr and bangers and dirty goals...and no mistakes defenively...Now, if we get thru to the Flyers and their softer D, that is when I would look forward a little to MZA..
Hospo
Tue May 1 2012 1:17 pm EST
E - That part is true....but down the stretch, HAGELIN was seriously lacking in his backchecking while doing fine offensively...But Torts really never held him accountable like he did other players (i.e., Dubi)......Hagelin's apathetic backchecking has continued in the POs and, vet or kid, you just can't have that.....Coming into the POs, I was worried about how Stepan, AA, and Hagelin would respond to the PO game...Step has finally got it..and I like what I have seen out off AA in his small ice time....but haglein has been a relaitvie disappointment..Then again, you are quite corect, this is his first NHL POs.....SO, it's TORTs job to watch him and coach him
Hospo
Tue May 1 2012 1:13 pm EST
As for MZA? The NYR could really use another scoring threat right now. Considering the kind of play the NYR were getting with MZA before the injury me thinks his return is real important right now.
E
Tue May 1 2012 1:10 pm EST
BOB: I think that there is a monster difference between Hagelin and Gaborik. I won't give Hagelin a full on pass to be completely unaccountable but I will state that he is in his first professional season. Gaborik by contrast is one of the salary cap gulping cornerstones of this franchise. And if he isn't going to be anything for the NYR in the post season then I vacillate on whether I even want him on the team. Richards? He has put the team on his back and is carrying them. And that is something I expected from Gaborik as well. If he can't be that guy? Makes you wonder. I would not consider it outside the realm of reason that he should be replaced with Nash (just kidding.)
E
Tue May 1 2012 1:01 pm EST
Funny you mention Hagelin...........Gaborik is being excoriated all over, but Hags is getting a pass. He is not producing either. He needs to raise his game.
Bob
Tue May 1 2012 12:34 pm EST
Per Zipay tweet... Mats Zuccarello, out five weeks now (fractured wrist), alone on Garden ice, full uniform, doing conditioning drills. Just flipping shots.
Rhet0ric
Tue May 1 2012 12:12 pm EST
Zebop - WOW, on the Preds...Everybody knew Kosty was and would eventually be a problem, ..Radulov, who I love to watch, just is showing to be an immature ass..They can still beat the Coyotes a few games if they play to their strength---defense,...
Hospo
Tue May 1 2012 12:07 pm EST
E - While I think alot of that is true...I don't think it means much as to the slant against the Rangers...The announcers and NHL wanted Ottawa...They want Wash,,,,They would have wanted Pitt...or Boston...They will want Philly.....The only one I don't know about is Jersey..Maybe it's just this now false perception of the Rangers being the money team...the favored city (it's the opposite) that everybody wants to see lose..Only thingto do is beat them....
Hospo
Tue May 1 2012 12:06 pm EST
E don't piss in the bright side cheerios and koolaide bowls. ;-).....doom and gloom gives them agita......like whatever is said here affects the outcome.......
stevielegs
Tue May 1 2012 12:06 pm EST
In other news ... Radulov and Kostisyn scratched for Gm 3 for "violating team rules." I believe that's NHL-speak for "consuming too much vodka in between games."
Zebop
Tue May 1 2012 11:49 am EST
NICK: I think that the league invested a lot of time in its prodigal sons: OV and Crosby. Pittsburgh by and large lived up to the hype. They had a team that was relatively low maintenance and won cups. That same light shown on Washington showed the difference in the 2-franchises. The 24-7 thing showed an awful lot with Bodreau and his teams ridiculous behavior. Bylsma was showcasing his disciplined, well organized, and you could argue a model way of running a franchise. In Washington, they were like a frat house and they were playing to the cameras and were basically an embarrassment. Then you have top-notch professional journeyman come in at deadlines and publicly excoriate the team because of the way the team has no team commitment to discipline to 3-zone play . You follow this up with Bodreau's public decree that the Caps will play more commitment to defense. And of course Bodreau gets fired. It isn't a soap opera. Its the NHL's version of "the Jersey Shore." Now to Dale Hunter's credit he has the actors on their hands and knees with scrub brushes cleaning the logo and returning it to a sparkle. He has let no one off of the hook. Not even OV. I mean look at what the guy did to Semin? Back checking? taking the body? Unheard of behavior. Now everyone is watching to see if Hunter is going to turn that franchise around or will the lunatics take back over the asylum. So its a voyeur thing. Personally, I cheer for Hunter. Takes real balls to take a player like OV and tell him to sit on the bench and be a good team guy. I just will cheer for him while he isn't playing the NYR.
E
Tue May 1 2012 11:35 am EST
First period on Weds I would just focus on Forechecking, Ramming their D, and Defense..If we get a scoring oppportunity, fine, but don't worry about....Green amd Hamrlik are getting plastered and both are hearing footsteps...make them all feel that way....the cough ups and physical losses will hopefully come as the game wears on..
Hospo
Tue May 1 2012 11:33 am EST
Stevie: I have observed Hagelin take chances all season long. And I suppose that despite this situation just terribly played I think that Hagelin has been given a little bit of latitude on back checks because Napolean wants Hagelin to trap bust with his speed and if he gets caught behind the play sometimes its OK. The NYR from time to time have used a set play designed for Hagelin once he clears the winger. Its so he hits the defense at full stride and tries to make a play. If he makes it in and gets the puck low or on net? The forwards come in. If not? They are still 3-4 in the neutral zone. Hagelin will back skate behind the play. Thats par for the course. And so to the fans it may sometimes look like he just shit the bed but you have to get the puck to your playmakers and cover for them. Last night was not one of those situations. Last night was just a mistake. But that was another mistake in what seemed to be a comical night of the NYR playing disjointed, out of position, and ill timed attempts at making something happen. Hagelin gets no free pass but then again, few played did get a passing grade from me last night. Right Gaborik?
E
Tue May 1 2012 11:22 am EST
As for the Caps being media faves, I think a lot of it is the four-year soap opera of sorts. They were an offensive juggernaut in 2009 and supposed to win; got strafed at home by Pitt in Game seven. 2010? Same thing, and got eliminated by the freaking two-round fluke the Canadiens (Halak) put on. Then the whole 'we're gomnna play defense now' Boudreau riff last year. Swept by Tampa. Now Hunter and Ovechkin. Yes they are a lot better on team D but I have to say: when guys named Chimera and Beagle get more time than Ovie, you are being an idiot. Of course they could still beat us. But I just don't see it. However by 11 pm Wednesday night I might have re-assessed ...
Nick
Tue May 1 2012 11:18 am EST
It would just be nice to have an easier series. '94 spoiled me; nine games and we were in the Eastern finals. Of course it was 'somewhat' tense after that, as I recall. :-) As for Hank-Richter? Truthfully no opinion as there are too many variables. The Cup cures all ills - even the Ron Francis 75-footer in the '92 series against Pitt that turned it completely around. But if Hank gets outplayed by Braden Holtby? I have no answer for that. And that second goal last night was inexcusable.
Nick
Tue May 1 2012 11:17 am EST
Its clever for the media to hype up the young Senators team in part because of Karlsson, Obviously, he is one of the latest class of darlings. It makes people perceive the age of the team and a view that the team has yet to reach their prime. This despite the fact that they are the 14th youngest team in the NHL this season. I caught Pierre even hyping the Predators as young darlings. This is a fair description because they are truly a young team. As for the NYR? They are less sexy. Instead of having the gaudy young superstars like Weber (right now) they have a gnarly team. I hate to compare them to the NJD but there was a time when they too received no respect due to their lack of gaud. All they did was win. And so they can have their Karlsson's because by the time he gets around 25 the Senators will STILL be looking to replace the likes of their senior citizens with the burgeoning 35-40 point Slfverburg, and ???? Zibenibijadadadad. No sir, I'll take my NYR with their majority under-30 roster and its pipeline of talents to team Karlsson any day of the week. If the Ottawa Senators are so young that is akin to a team who 7 years old and not yet potty trained.
E
Tue May 1 2012 11:16 am EST
not the first time hagelin has not got back......needs improvement......
stevielegs
Tue May 1 2012 11:00 am EST
PAL17 - Hagelin got back mych quicker that Gabby, that's for sure..But, yeah, bioth lollygagged on their backcheck and that can't happen......DUGSTER - IMO, two mistakes, other wise they played a game I hope they repeat,..Haven't seen much doom and gloom jsut some reality about a long series with a closley matched opponent..
Hospo
Tue May 1 2012 10:47 am EST
was it me or did Hagelin takes his time getting back after BICKELL coughed it up? wtf... this guy skates faster then GENE CARR and he was way too late on the back check! Melville Fred where have you been sitting? I moved to sect 302.
Pal17
Tue May 1 2012 10:44 am EST
Richter or the king? Interesting discussion,,,,,,,,If I had to pick a guy for a game 7,,,,,easy,,,Ricter,,,,he has been there done it and WON,,,,,,,,,,,
thedugster
Tue May 1 2012 10:42 am EST
The Wall is kinda of a funny place at times, We have some who are gloom and dom at the first sing of trouble and others who are eternal optimist...like me....Last night was a bad game and we made more mistakes,,,,,its that simple the team who makes the least amout of turnovers and mistakes will win,,,Much like the NFL....TURNOVERS ARE THE KILLERS,,,,,,a few posts here and there and its a tie game or a Ranger win,,,But just was not a great game last night,,,I thought Boyle looked ok,,,,,,,not every game is he going to sparkle......Holpe Played well...........KEEP THE FAITH BABY!!!!!! lEtS Go rAnGErS!!!!1
thedugster
Tue May 1 2012 10:39 am EST
HOSPO that's his achilles heel , the D men need to do that. Guess he doesn't have 100% confidence in them, or he just gets carried away with himself.......he's allowed to give up a goal, while saving 5 from being them. ....too many are looking for perfection, there is no such thing.......
stevielegs
Tue May 1 2012 10:33 am EST
From someone who has moved around a bit yes an anti New York sentiment does exist...I lived in St Louis for years and now I am in Nashville....People just hope New York teams lose....Doesn't explain the league view though....As far as NBC goes I don't get it at all other than they are hoping for a long series....Oh well I am rapidly getting back my hatred for the Caps....The hand to the ear thing by OV after he scored is enough to send me into a rage....Hope it motivates the Rangers to just get rid of this team quickly....
PJ
Tue May 1 2012 10:31 am EST
STEVIE - He's been needing to work on that for years...and hasn't.....He is a great goalie but .His lack of stick handling ability hurt the Rangers in the Sens series..and it hurt them last nigth..
Hospo
Tue May 1 2012 10:26 am EST
The King just shouldn't leave his net with the opposition bearing down. He panics and can't get set to make the save. He looks like a fish out of water. He needs to work on that in the off season. In the meantime, DON"T do that again.
stevielegs
Tue May 1 2012 10:20 am EST
And I am not usually one for this but I am befuddled by the Pro-Capital (more than Anti Ranger) sediment on both NBC and the NHL network...What's that saying about the Golden Goose? 1994 was the last tiem there was ever any real excitement about the NHL in the USA....,Was watching the NHL network this morning and it was Cps this and Caps that....They went over the Bickel play for 10 minutess!..And then they show OV hitting the post ..but not DZ (unlke the 100x they showed the Caps posts on Saturday")...And then there was the comments of some Jerk off named Jaffee and Kelly Chase not even giving Torts a top 3 nom in the coaching thing..but pointing out Paul Maclean and the youth of the Senators...Hello Douchebags..Teh Rangers were and are younger....Must be a deep seeded hatered agasint the Big city of New York by too many....But, get past it bozos, the Rangers winning is the best thing for the NHL...
Hospo
Tue May 1 2012 10:16 am EST
Ilya Kovalchuk is out for the Devils tonight with a lower body injury.
Rhet0ric
Tue May 1 2012 10:02 am EST
KIS - You're nuts dude. It's the other way around: LUNDQVIST has won just about everything under the sun...Gold in the olympics...gold in the world championship...championship in Sweden..was a Vezina finalist four times and could very well win it this year...the only thing Richter has that Hank doesn't is a cup. Granted, that's hockey's biggest prize...but also look at the team Richter had back then to help him win it. Do the Rangers today(or ever since Hank has been part of the team) have a LEETCH and MESSIER? ZUBOV? KOVALEV? GRAVES? Again, not to detract from Richter, because he was a phenomenal goalie..but he had a veritable all-star team in front of him...and if you're gonna bitch at Hank about 'softies' then you clearly aren't remembering Richter. He would let in goals that would have me banging my head repeatedly on the wall(this one and the physical one as well). I know his body gave out toward the end and he had hardly any team in front of him, but he was downright dreadful his last few years in New York. Like I said, you're wearing some rose-tinted glasses looking at Richter...Richter made the U.S. Hall of Fame but will never get a sniff from THE hockey hall of fame...Lundqvist, if he continues on his current career path and DOES get a cup, will be a shoe-in. Simply put, he's the best goaltender in the NHL. Hands down.
tdchi
Tue May 1 2012 9:43 am EST
Hospo...Agreed on Boyle....He did not look right at all...Even when they showed him on the bench after a shift he did not look comfortable....
PJ
Tue May 1 2012 9:34 am EST
I would venture into the Richter-King discussion if both could help us in the POs! RHET - we really did see a differnt game...I thought the Rangers skated well, hit well..but made two many mistakes....and that is what theis series will be about....These are two evenly matched teams with the way they are now...King needs to show he is the King...The Rangers need to backcheck better..Real worried about the games in Wasshington becasue of the way Torts has shortened his bench.. They could get really tired when Wash has the matchups...Play the 4th line more........Any word on Boyle? He looked off...
Hospo
Tue May 1 2012 9:18 am EST
Yes Richter did let in some stupid goals but he won everything possible. Never saw him call out a player on the ice( saw Hank do that twwice in these playoffs. (If I were Cally I tell him keep it behind the doors and shut the fuck up on the ice) Last the Rangers play a much better team defense these days than during Richters era. Except for the Devils, Teams played a much more wide open game during Richters time. No I'm not spoiled by Hank. AS I have said before, I think he is a good goalie but not amazing like so many of you think.He fucks up and everybody gives the guy a pass. Gabby doesn't score for 7 games and people are ready to get rid of him. Let the fucking Jester steal a series let alone win a cup and then I will give him a pass. Hate that he calls guys out on the ice especially when he fucks up.
KIS
Tue May 1 2012 8:50 am EST
Hank has been good and he will need to be for us to win the series...However, he was outplayed by Holtby last night....I guess it doesn't matter but I would rather him be more humble after a game like that....He called the mishandling of the puck a bad break? Also yelled at McD after the goal which is annoying....I know we aren't anywhere without Hank but his attitide gets on my nerves sometimes.....
PJ
Tue May 1 2012 8:47 am EST
KIS - wow dude...I'm a little shocked you're ready to stand by that statement..Me thinks you've gotten a little spoiled with Hank and are remembering Richter's glory years with some rose tint to your glasses...I don't think you can even compare the two...they played in two different eras, so it's kind of comparing apples and oranges...but the fact remains Hank is about three seasons away from surpassing Richter's career win total and has already blown him out of the water in shutouts...Hank was(is) basically the only reason the Rangers were able to make the playoffs since the lockout...Even now, if Hank went down(god forbid), how many here think the Rangers would advance much farther? Show of hands? None? Richter certainly stole games in 1994, but that was the pinnacle of his career. His body broke down and as the team in front of him got weaker, he simply couldn't carry them. Lundqvist's career has been about the polar opposite...He carried a VERY weak Ranger team in 2005-2006...and pretty much through the current lineup, which is finally taking a bit of the pressure off of him. I don't see how you can compare the two with the clarity to say one is better than the other...but if I were to make that call, I don't see any way you couldn't pick Hank.
tdchi
Tue May 1 2012 8:39 am EST
KIS: Sorry...but in the CUP YEAR I remember (now i wasn't a big fan at the time) Richter letting in a stupid weak goal...I remember because my friends family were huge Rangers fans, and his step dad cussed like a sailor when he let is one because he was in the corner...I think it was the first round...so don't pretend that Richter somehow was the only guy who won those games...Hank has been great, he made a mistake...but EVERY goalie does...remember Roy in the playoffs when they beat NJD in the finals...in NJ he did the statue of liberty thing with the puck in his glove...except he forgot to keep the puck in his glove and the game went to OT because of it? It happens...its easy to point to it and say a guy screwed up, but the rest of the team made mistakes as well, and no goalie will ever win the cup on their own, and no team will win without a goalie being good 90% of the time...and hank has been so far.
Wildcard
Tue May 1 2012 8:28 am EST
Last year we had a discussion about who is better, The king or Richter. I said Richter, many said Hank. Well I would like to see Hank steal a series for the Rangers before I will ever consider him better than Richter. Richter won a cup for this organization. Hank lets in stupid goals. He has never stole a series for the Rangers.
KIS
Tue May 1 2012 8:01 am EST
doct he was crosschecked right near the benches, as the refs called too many men on the nyr, and he didn't have the puck.
stevielegs
Tue May 1 2012 7:40 am EST
gabby manhandled ? can't be , he falls down or blindly throws the puck away before he could be manhandled. but, credit were credit is due, nice pass to br, and almost a second one , which was a good look. however, mostly way ,way to soft on the puck!! haglin much tougher on puck..stepan looks like a ov compared to gaborik. stop cutting him slack. he has to get it done , or i'd rather have mitchell in his spot. he'll make the tough play , and hold onto it to find someone open.
doct
Tue May 1 2012 7:25 am EST
probably why he won't win coach of the year..........http://blueshirtsunited.com/videos/1417/tortorella-post-game-2
stevielegs
Tue May 1 2012 7:16 am EST
"Richards was encouraged by Gaborik last night. “Created a few things for me that I could have had a couple of goals,” Richards said. “He’s been involved in a couple of big goals here in the last couple of games. ... I know how that is ... confidence will grow, and he’ll feel better about himself.” Tortorella was in no mood to talk about the Kreider-Gaborik switch. “Don’t ask me about my moves. ... I’m not gonna give you that type of information,” he said. Best-of-five again for the Rangers. Best of Marian Gaborik desperately needed. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/rangers_guilty_of_capital_crime_7uyQ0D9eKB9ysCsDTGcbCL#ixzz1tcT2jbZB...........lots of talk about Gaborik, but he's getting manhandled , and the refs are looking the other way. Do that crap to Ovaltine or crybaby, and it's a pp. Maybe a shift or 2 with Rupp doing his job of protecting , instead of choking on scoring, will help Gaborik.
stevielegs
Tue May 1 2012 7:12 am EST
THE biggest joke of the game was how NBC's announcers handled the situation between OVECHKIN and Hunter...and how they basically took what is a VERY ugly situation in Washington and tried to make it look like it's calculated...they basically took a gigantic pile of festering dogshit, sprayed perfume on it and then fed it to the broadcast like it was chocolate truffles...On CHIMERA'S BS goal...Instead of replaying how tenuous it was, they panned to OV and said something to the effect of 'look at who is the first one on the Capitals bench to jump up and cheer...' OK...right. So he's the Capitals' $9 million cheerleader...then after OV has only 3 minutes in the first and less than 10 minutes through two, they had to come up with a new line...so it was 'Hunter is SUCH a genius..he's playing a cat-and-mouse game with the Rangers...SAVING Ovechkin for the late minutes...when he's going to need a clutch player...' OHHHKAAAAY...So I guess we can look forward to all teams doing this next season? STAMKOS and CROSBY getting benched through two so they can win the game in the third? Right. I couldn't even believe those f@cking idiots were trying to say that...In truth, Ovechkin is looking like he's poised to join a very long list of extremely talented Russians who put up huge numbers for the first five or six years of their career and then give up playing once they hit paydirt...the guy is a shadow of his former self and I really can't understand why...there's no physical reason for it...Two years ago, I remember arguing that he was the best all-around talent in the league...just a hitting and scoring machine...but it's clear now that he's a large part of what was wrong with Washington during prior playoff runs and at the top of the season...he's quickly becoming the Capitals' version of YASHIN, which is sadly deserving for that club.
tdchi
Tue May 1 2012 6:59 am EST
My notes on the game: Bad bounces, bad calls, and bad decisions made this a 1-1 series.The Rangers are now going to need to win in Washington, which isn't exactly an easy task...but I'm not jumping off any bridges quite yet...On the first goal, BICKEL showed why I've never been too fond of him playing in games like this and how SAUER would dial this whole team up another notch. He was AT THE BOARDS when he tried that stupid cross-ice pass, when he had a clear dump down the boards. Just shear stupidity. And I'm not going to make too much of a deal about it, but GABORIK didn't seem in too much of a hurry to backcheck on the 3-on-2...on the second goal, LUNDQVIST was an absolute moron for trying to play the puck. Pure stupidity. ANDERSON did the same thing in the Sens series and almost ended up burned...I simply don't understand why goalies do that ESPECIALLY in the first period when opposing forwards still have a lot of spring in their step...DUMB, DUMB, DUMB...and then the non-calls in the third...I watched the call on RICHARDS at least a half-dozen times and still don't get why interference was called. CARLSON ran DIRECTLY into B-RICH. I mean, the kid just slammed into him..inadvertently of course...but that's what you call incidental contact. It looked like B-Rich pushed back a little, but what the hell are you supposed to do when a guy slams into you? I simply didn't see the call, and that type of marginal penalty CANNOT be called in the last 10 minutes of a 3-3 game. That's utter bullshit...Other than that, I don't think the Rangers played bad at all...just mental mistakes that sort of suggest a bit of cockiness on their end. They may be better than Washington, but not by much. And if they don't respect the Caps, they're going to be looking at the same deficit they did against the Sens.
tdchi
Tue May 1 2012 3:44 am EST
Stupid misstakes=inexperience, Kreider's step back=conditioning combined with inexperience (you waste more energy if you are tence, which is not strange for a kid), Gabby=unable to adjust his game AND unable to get going by just working hard (he does not have that gear so to speak), Carlson=is this Serie A or what. Alot of guys from N of the border flopping around like that these days...
Ola
Mon Apr 30 2012 11:46 pm EST
Thanks to United Air Lines' DirecTV, I watched the game from 39,000 feet. I thought that this was easily the best 60 minute game that the Rangers have played this playoff year. They were flying and hitting Caps all over the place for large portions of this game. They lost because of 2 of the stupidest gaffes we have seen in awhile. If Hank was pissed, he needed to look in the mirror. He needs to keep his ass in the net. There is no excuse for that stupid move, and it cost him the game. Don't recall seeing Bickel again after that idiotic screw up on the first Caps goal. I feel like other fans feel when they play us..........no way we should have lost that game. This time, the Caps got the bounces and the posts. It happens. If the Rangers play like that for the rest of this series and Hank keeps his ass in the net. we will move on. Gabby is trying but is being held, hooked and hit and having trouble getting through it all. The Richards penalty was a joke in comparison to what the dopey Walkom let go all game long, but you have to overcome that.
Bob
Mon Apr 30 2012 11:39 pm EST
Vic, your review is right on!
Topovski
Mon Apr 30 2012 11:17 pm EST
Vic, that's the way it looked to me too. If we play like this and Hank stays in the crease, we will prevail. But again -- there are about 50 game-of-inches plays in a game and the Caps could get more bounces. Everything is so damned close you can never relax. At least so far for the Rangers.
Nick
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:51 pm EST
Hospo...not so...the crowd was extreemely loud for the last 5 minutes after the OV goal......I was there. Not sure why it sounds that way at home....
MelvilleFred
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:48 pm EST
Wow, I'm surprised to see a lot of negativity regarding the way the Rangers played tonight. In terms of a 60 minute performance I thought this game was easily the best game they played so far in the playoffs. They were physical and they swarmed the Caps in their own end all night. The Rangers lost this game because of two stupid mistakes and a few crossbars. I thought the first game could have gone either way given how many posts and crossbars the Caps hit but tonight luck was on their side. Also, I thought they had the better goaltender tonight. I haven't said that too many times in HANK's career but I thought he got outplayed tonight. I get the feeling watching GABBY that he is playing hurt but he is playing and working hard. A lot of them are playing hurt. That is the nature of the playoffs. Hopefully he can contribute but if he can't then others will have to pick up the scoring slack and so far they have. If they play the way they did tonight for the rest of the series they should be fine. They have the ability to dictate the style of play against the Caps. They couldn't do that to the Sens. Everybody take a deep breath and relax.
Vic
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:46 pm EST
....just got back....very sloppy play by the Rangers, Kreider looked human as did McDonough, Girardi and Stall. As I said last week I get extreemely nervous when the King leaves his net. The refs were awful so that certainly didn't help. They could have/should have won but with this team nothing is ever easy. Nick...to your point the crowd was and always is very noisy when there is reason to be.....and it never seems that way from the broadcast. Well need at least 1 in DC or its Golf time. My daughter texted me to say Torts Press conference was pretty funny....anybody see it?
MelvilleFred
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:35 pm EST
Yes ... I said don't 'pon the irton' and I meant it! I learned typing from Hospo! My take, BTW, on the crowd (having been to Game One) is that there's a lot less noise on TV than in MSG, for what it's worth.
Nick
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:32 pm EST
Hospo... I thought the Rangers were running around with cement blocks on their feet most of the night.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:28 pm EST
PJ... McDonagh never even saw the puck... what is the NY media now turning on the Rangers as well?
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:27 pm EST
This 'soft' riff on Gaborik bugs me. The guy scored 42 goals ... he's a constant threat ... yeah he's slumping. It happens. We have enough plumbers on this roster as it is, so if he's 'soft,' sorry, I'll take it. It's not his job to be a tough slammer out there, and we hit anything that moved as a team tonight. Everyone has their role. Like Hank's is to stay in the freaking net. We will prevail in this series, and if not? Well then we got beat. Refs this, refs that; 'Buttman' this ... all bullshit. Yeah the Richards call blew. Win the draw maybe? Kill the penalty? Get the puck in the net and not pon the irton? I mean WTF ... we weren't gonna go 16-0. Yeah it blows and I'm pissed especially with the Western 'powers' all taking the pipe. Eastern winner wins the Cup.
Nick
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:26 pm EST
RF4L... We were talking about this the other night... Game 2 hit, shoulder injury... you can tell he's just not himself... on the other hand... What's up with Hagelin? he's been practically invisible since he's been back.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:26 pm EST
RF4L: There is definitely something off with him at times he seems disengaged.
DOUBLEN
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:23 pm EST
Regarding Gaborik and a possible injury: He took a solid hit early in the Sens series to his shoulder...could be that is his problem...
RF4L
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:17 pm EST
That sucked...I had the perfect birdseye view of Hank's screw up as I was sitting in a suite right above that net. I was watching Gabby all night and there is definitely something wrong with him..I think he is injured.
DOUBLEN
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:09 pm EST
Torts seemed like he was going to explode in postgame but held it together well....Can't take 4 minutes in penalties late in a 2-2 game....Also said doesn't matter what he thinks of the Richards penalty....Some dumbass asked if McD's inexperience caused him to kick in the second goal...WTF....Hope Torts has them fired up for game 3.....I doubt we see Bickel next game....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:56 pm EST
KIS - He tried to be physical at times tonight..but just doesn;t look "strong" and I mentioned th same about his lack of acceleration...I hope at the end of the POs we find out soemthing was wrong..If not, he better give this team a big night or two..
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:54 pm EST
it was a one goal loss, ovie did suck the air out taking 4 whole seconds to score, while Boyle was probably interfered with. They didn't get the good breaks nor luck.,,,,,,this s how blue collar goes sometimes.....they'll be fine, they are te better team........
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:54 pm EST
wonder if gabby is hurt. He isn't even skating fast when in open ice. Like gabby but wonder if he is to soft
KIS
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:53 pm EST
Agree with you guys that AA should have seen mnre ice time, even if for Boyle for one more night....th 4th line had a few good scoring chances too...long series..play them a few shifts more..........And I love Bickels heart and guts, but he's just fighting himslef out there..playing afraid with so little time...Might as well give Emminger a chance to skate 4 minutes..
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:51 pm EST
And I never noticed Hank getting visibly pissed at McDonagh. Shut the phuck up Lundqvist. You caused that goal and yelling at your teammate, who is trying to make up for your stupid gaff, is sucky and very much me-first crap. He did something similar a few weeks back to MDZ when MDZ tipped a shot that went in. The King was not to blame, but maybe he should tell everyone to stop blocking all shots. Bottom line is SHADDUP.
RF4L
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:50 pm EST
STEVIE - The Rangers were doing their part, sounded like the crowd wasn't... ..and just gave up aftert OV's goal..but hay, it's their money
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:50 pm EST
Prust 14 minutes...AA less than 5....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:48 pm EST
Gabby shjowed a little bit more fight...but stil lgoes down easy...and looks like he has lost his acceleration...
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:47 pm EST
Hospo that's when the wind is not in their sails.....the crowd is very in tune, the suits are drunk.
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:47 pm EST
KIS...Was wondering the same about AA...I thought he looked good in the first....Prust all heart and very little skill....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:45 pm EST
STEVIE - I don't know, the Rangers were slamming Caps into the boards left and right..some hellacious hits....The crowd was going in the second and part of the third...but then it sounded like they all left...and blah.....Did the SUits all go home?
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:43 pm EST
Hank getting pissed at McD? why not make a better play with the puck or stay the fuck in the net? Somebody needs to tell Hank to shut the fuck up sometimes. I thought he sucked on the 1st 2 goals and fought the puck. the first goal the guy is behind the line when he throws the puck across the goal. where did Hank think the puck ws going to go? get the stick out. Marc staal sucked tonight.
KIS
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:42 pm EST
JFC - The only time I thought the Ranges had dead legs was at the end of the 2nd period..I thought they played real welll in the 3rd..Until the Refs got a call from Shanahan or Buttman...God, I remember why I used to get so many misconducts, I hate when refs decide games with ticky tack calls
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:41 pm EST
gentlemen when this team is intense and physical , you can feel it, and so does the crowd and their intensity. it's how it is in MSG. ....wait for NN , who was there. It doesn't mean they played bad, they were in it all the way. But this team gives off a vibe that can be felt when they are really clicking.
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:39 pm EST
Hospo, you are spot on with that last entry. the Anti Ranger sentiment from NBC and the league is tragic. How can that be a penalty on Richards. If anything it should have been a penalty on Carlsonn for diving. Then the fuckin Queer smirks. When will a Ranger player crush not only OV but any other bastard cutting across the ice. I cn't tell you how many times I said to PA. that the defender needed to step up and lay the fucking Cap player out. Lundqvist sucked tonight. Why did Torts sit Artie the last half of the game? because he hit the goalie in the mask on a shot. Prust scores every leap year yet he had a regular shift with the Rangers down. gabby needs to get his head out of his ass and skate.
KIS
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:39 pm EST
RF4L - Hard for them to get players to the Net when the forwards are doing very good job controlling the puck along the board and behind the net..makes up a little bit for the lack of net crashing...but they can at least do it now and then on the PP..
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:38 pm EST
CM...Noticed Hank get pissed at McD....Also saw the postgame and Hank said the play was a bad break? Well not really Henrik....I hope this game really gets the Rangers angry for Wednesday...Brian Leetch thought the call on Richards was bad and said Karlson embarrassed the ref with the dive....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:38 pm EST
Plain and simple....the Caps got lucky. The Rangers played a fantastic 1st period, only to get the short end on 2 mistakes. The rest of the game, I think they had tired legs, but the Caps still weren't up to the task. And WTF was with that penalty on Richards? Blech! 2 dead-on pipes by Zo! Whatta ya gonna do? If that's the best the Caps have......
JFC31
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:36 pm EST
CM - good post, I agree....I had ittle fault with the team except for the bone head plays...Well, I hete to say this, but I thin Boyle should have set out another game...didn't see muchou to of hime...And theough the NBC announcer was having an ogasm about Johanssen preventing Bouyle gettining out on top for the goal..I think he was just a bit slow and also turned his body sideways...But, I'll take his heart and guts anyday in the POs..
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:36 pm EST
Holtby was so far out of his net on many Ranger shots. Clearly, that's a result of scouting due to the Rangers penchant for shooting the puck from the perimeter. The Rangers need to adjust and hold off on some of those shots to bring the puck in deeper. They also need to get more players to the net.
RF4L
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:32 pm EST
And three things...PJ - I heard the NBC annoucer say that...and all their spots are on Cap players...This anti Ranger shit has tl stop........And when is a Ranger D-man gonna step up and pull a Scott Stevens on Ovechikin as he wlalstzes across the ice? His head needs to be crushed.......OK, as for the GARDEN, maybe it was just the sound on NBCSN but with 5-6 miinute left and the Rangers trying to come back, the Garden crowd sounded dea and bored...Not util about a mintue and a hlf did i sense any excitment/....IIf amybody was there, please tell me it was just the TV sound lpaying tricks...
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:31 pm EST
I disagree that we needed to be more physical or intense. The team came to play and dominated most of the game, especially with their hitting. Lundqvist really blew it on the 2nd goal and what was worse was it looked like he got mad at McDonough for some reason. I know he's competitive, but that was not a good reaction. He also has a stubborn streak, and it was his decision to stay in the crease (probably correct, btw) when Torts was calling him. BICKEL- will probably be benched, mostly because his inexperience showed on that play.Don't know if he could have dumped it deep, but he panicked and it cost the Rangers who could not recover. CALLAHAN and RICHARDS up front and DEL ZOTTO on D were the best Rangers. Girardi was steady, but McDonough had a few uneven moments. Hank will be pissed and will stone the Caps on Wednesday, I'll take that to the bank. We won a game we didn't play all that well and played a great game (minus two bonehead plays) and lost. That's the playoffs. CARLSON is a good agitator. He created the power play that led to the winning goal and then skated by Richards and laughed (right in front of the ref), knowing how he scammed the ref. HOLTBY was okay, but I think a lot of our shots were right in to him (when we weren't hitting the posts). I love the announcer saying that Kreider was being but on the 1st line to "spark" Richards. WTF? I liked what Torts did, but it sure as hell wasn't to spark Richards. It got Gabby away from Carlson. Too bad it didn't really pay off on the score board, but I think we'll see that going forward. Frustrating, but I don't feel they are going in the wrong direction playing wise.
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:27 pm EST
I guess I saw a differen game then most on here...I thought the Rangers playe a pretty good game...The King with the Big mistake I was talking about and , as a result, Holtby out playing him....The Rangers were having a real good second util they just lost their wind and the Caps had it for about 7 minutes..Then they were playing a real good 3rd periond until the NHL and the REFS decided to Fuck th Rangers......Two posts...came close bu just couldn't do it.....Very close teams...The Rangers will win at least one in Washington......
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:25 pm EST
And after a give away a brain fart and a ticky tack call the Rangers still outplayed the Caps and had a chances to win. The puck just didn't go in for them tonight. The effort was there until the final whistle. I'm not worried. If they play the way they played tonight the rest of the way minus the give aways and brain farts they will win this series.
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:22 pm EST
stevie...wow, what game were you watching? The Rangers were more intense and physical in this game that any of the Sens games (which isn't to say they didn't have a few stretches of quiet play). They lost because of 2 stupid plays....
RF4L
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:20 pm EST
Agreed on the 2 bad plays that both resulted in goals. Unfortunately, with the Rangers offensively challenged squad, it was a killer. IMO, while I really like Bickel, if he's gonna do something that stupid in his 7minutes (max) of icetime, pressbox him and dress Emminger.
RF4L
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:17 pm EST
A give away and a brain fart cost the Rangers this Game. They should have won this game 2-1
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:17 pm EST
they needed to be more intense and physical
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:17 pm EST
Go up two games to zip and the craps are done, but we can't bury teams when they are down. Yeah, they played at good game to a point, but mistakes cost them.
Tucc
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:16 pm EST
Had to give one away at home. Just had to. It was fated; predetermined. Preordained. One thing this team will never do is create a red c*nthair's worth of breathing room for itself in any game, in any series. Because we're BLUE COLLAR!!
FerociousMonk94
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:14 pm EST
Bickel made a bad pass and Hank misplayed the puck....Other than that I thought we played a strong game....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:13 pm EST
Why not pull the goalie at the 2 minute mark when the Rangers had the Caps pinned deep?
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:12 pm EST
Are we ever going to beat the Caps in a playoff series??? That just sucked. Can't let them score first, Rangers not good at coming from behind
rngrsans
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:12 pm EST
Wonder if the NBC announcers will talk about the posts we hit all week....The refs can't make themselves that big a part of the game....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:12 pm EST
The Caps didn't play well, but we were determined to play worse than them. Ugly hockey at it's best.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:11 pm EST
That was brutal, just absolutely brutal.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:11 pm EST
2 posts
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:10 pm EST
The Rangers are the worst team in the league trying to get their goalie off!
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:08 pm EST
What... aren't we getting power plays until we score? Shocker... Spot any team two goals and you're playing into the refs hands. LET'S GO RANGERS!
Z
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:08 pm EST
nn i'll take the 2x ot now
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:08 pm EST
And we tied the game and took over the play...Total f'ing bullshit calls...
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:05 pm EST
First two caps goals were our screwups... Sick of bitChing about the refs. We should be burying this shit team.
Tucc
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:02 pm EST
Starting to look like the Winter Classic....gotta keep the series going. How many bulshit calls so far against the Rangers?
ajurso
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:02 pm EST
Real ticky tack call on Richards.
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:01 pm EST
Beating themselves? Are you watching the game?
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:01 pm EST
Part of it is just waking up for the 3rd period
rngrsans
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:59 pm EST
Rangers are beating themselves...
Tucc
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:59 pm EST
guy skates into richards falls down and ref falls for it
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:59 pm EST
Amazing how many people are against the Rangers winning. You can't have these inconsistent calls in the playoffs
rngrsans
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:58 pm EST
Honestly this is criminal....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:57 pm EST
Thanks Refs! A fuckin joke
rngrsans
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:56 pm EST
These calls smell like asparagus piss
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:56 pm EST
The refs suck!
rngrsans
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:56 pm EST
Need you now Hank......
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:56 pm EST
Just give the Caps the damn game....Total bullshit....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:55 pm EST
The refs are trying hard to get this series tied.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:55 pm EST
This is a joke....WTF
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:52 pm EST
Bad call....Come on....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:52 pm EST
BS
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:50 pm EST
CORRECTION CALLI-MAN GETS IT AFTER FACE SLAP
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:49 pm EST
Good things happen when you ahve someone in front !!
ajurso
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:48 pm EST
It looked like Gaborik deflected it.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:48 pm EST
DEL Z-MAN PP
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:47 pm EST
YEEEEEESSSSSS!
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:45 pm EST
Get one here...LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:43 pm EST
Game of inches....can't believe that puck didn't go in!
ajurso
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:33 pm EST
If the Rangers can tie this game up they will win it! I don't want to see Lundqvist's mistake cost the Rangers the game. LETS GO RAMGERS!
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:30 pm EST
Looks like the Rangers hit the wall between the 1st & 2nd periods. They looked like they lost their "jump".....their 1st step was much slower and their rushes looked slow motion compared to the way they've been skating. Still, the good news is the Caps weer not able to take advantage and the Rangers seemed to get a 2nd wind towards the end of the period. Maybe they'll find their legs and pull it out in the 3rd. I will say this....the Rangers are clearly a beter tean than the Caps.....not just this game, but in general. If it weren't for 2 flubs, we'd be winning this one despitre being tired. Those 1st 10-12 minutes of the 1st period were totally dominated by us in every aspect. Our hitting has been top notch and that is going to have a wearing-down effect on the Caps. We need a dirty goal to tie this thing up.... we need Gabby to start getting back into the dirty areas of the offensive zone....he's on the perimeter too much. LET'S GO RANGERS!!
JFC31
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:27 pm EST
Difference is Holtby stopping Kreider and Hank butchering his little journey. All in 15 seconds. Caps are playing good D and we have to do more to pressure. But I still can't see the Caps beating us best of seven.
Nick
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:05 pm EST
PJ< No shit, gotta mute that commercial
ajurso
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:04 pm EST
Real simple, shots on net! This goalie is not seeing the puck! Using everything but his stick and glove to block.
ajurso
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:04 pm EST
I really thought the Rangers would be playing better in the 2nd period... They're making less mistakes, but shanking the puck a lot.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:56 pm EST
HEAD-BE
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:51 pm EST
The Verizon commercial with the woman crying is beyond obnoxious....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:38 pm EST
Pietrangelo not on ice for warm ups for Caps
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:38 pm EST
doct...Agreed on MDZ...He is flying tonight but was just missing his popcorn as he watched on the Knuble goal...
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:36 pm EST
Doct... MDZ actually looked like MDZ there... if he get's going, Gabby scoring wont be too far behind.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:35 pm EST
By the time Kreider got out in front of the defenders, he was too close to the goalie to do much... he should've powered it by him.... and talk about a goalie that hasn't seen a lot of quality shots... Holtby is in trouble in the 2nd period if we actually hit the net.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:33 pm EST
nice pass by gaborik , maybe that'll get things going for him. so far he has been extremely weak on the puck. kreider needs to keep those feet moving when he does he at very least disrupts the caps. mdz sleeping on knuble goal, covered no one on 3 on2. turned into 3-1 mdz shoulda skated to bench , just as effective.
doct
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:32 pm EST
The Kreider breakaway was unbelievable....The separation he gets is startling....If he could have only buried the chance....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:30 pm EST
Kreider's hit on Green was priceless... one armed the guy off his feet... thing of beauty.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:29 pm EST
NBC announcer just said so far so good Caps up 2-1.....WTF....These guys are all anti Rangers....Pisses me off to no end....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:26 pm EST
I would love to be a fly on the wall in the locker room during the intermission :)
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:25 pm EST
Mistakes, Mistakes, Mistakes... Chimera banks it in off McDonagh's skate (he carried it with his foot for a bit)... Puck handling F-up... HANK... no more of those the rest of the post-season... I thought we were past that crap.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:23 pm EST
Gabby to Richards 12+ Mill per year, priceless! Clutch Phukin Goal, We're gonna win this one! Let's Go Rangers!!!!
mf
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:22 pm EST
easy everybody dont tank so quickly,,,,we are doing the right thing and will wear them out by 3rd period,,,Yep Stu made a bad pass,,,,ok get over it,,,,,,we will be ok,,,,LeTs gO rAnGeRs!!!!
thedugster
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:21 pm EST
Thank goodness!
rngrsans
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:19 pm EST
RICH-MAN
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:19 pm EST
We got one back. Stop the stupid friggin mistakes and we can win this.
Fotiu22
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:19 pm EST
Nice pass Gaborik....Huge goal....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:18 pm EST
YES
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:15 pm EST
Hank the absolute worst at handling puck....McD actually ended up putting it in....This is f'ing ridiculous....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:15 pm EST
Digging a hole, fucktards.
Rexi29
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:14 pm EST
Thanks Henrik! Tat sucks..to control the game and then be down 0-2
rngrsans
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:07 pm EST
Wow, refs allowing a crap-ton of interference.
mykpfsu
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:05 pm EST
So much for sticking up for Bickel....Dumb play and may just cost him his spot in the lineup....We were having a good start up till then...
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:05 pm EST
BICKEL- Guess this is what Torterella feared.. horrible pass... what a buzz kill since teh NYRs have been carrying the play all game up till that goal.. OUCH!
schneidw
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:03 pm EST
TD... Mike Knuble scored.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:02 pm EST
who needs your stinkin pp?......got one......
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:54 pm EST
We passed the puck around really well during the power play... too bad we didn't shoot it... much.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:47 pm EST
what is name hammer-lick?
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:45 pm EST
5 hole-be
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:44 pm EST
ALMOST 3 MINUTES
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:41 pm EST
Plz, How far into the game are we? Thank you
mf
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:41 pm EST
HOSPO... Coach of the Year is all about the Regular season and has nothing to do with the postseason. Otherwise I'd agree with you.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:34 pm EST
RHET - Totally disagree on Maclean....He did a good job but nowhere near torts, Hitch, Dineen...He brought a young together and it's on the way up but they almost choked right out of the POs also...And everything is based on the regular season...Good job, but not good enoug........But,,,,,,LETS GO RANGERS!...See Ya after the Win...I hope..
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:32 pm EST
LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:01 pm EST
Brian Boyle is on the ice for warmups... The Garden crowd will go even more nuts when he hits the ice tonight.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 5:52 pm EST
This will get you pumped up for the game... http://www.nyrangersblog.com/2012-articles/april/i-am-the-new-york-rangers.html
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 5:50 pm EST
No offense to Torts, but I think MacLean wins the Adams Award. that team became scary good, scary fast and no one expected them to do much this year... They look to be a nemesis of ours for years to come... A good reminder for this team not to look ahead was being up 3-1 to the Caps in 2009, then losing in 7. There are plenty of guys still on this team that WONT forget that... IMO, I don't care who we play past this series, but I don't know why anyone would want to face the Devils in a best of 7... They've given us fits all year. I know the Flyers unbeaten streak has to end sometime, but with their goalie situation, I would take them any day of the week. JMO...
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 4:38 pm EST
Newfie_Ranger-Nice to see you back-----hey at this point on this wall there is really nothing left to say but ----LeTs Go rAnGeRs!!!!
thedugster
Mon Apr 30 2012 4:30 pm EST
E: Thanks a lot, brother. I'll check out Lucianos. Funny that I was in San Fran working with the Giants all last summer and I don't know a single sports bar because I didn't have much down time. Apparently my show jinxes the offense of whatever team we're following around. Giants last year, Marlins this year.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 30 2012 4:02 pm EST
nn easy with the 2x ot, there's work tomorrow..... but it better be a win.......enjoy.......
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 4:00 pm EST
Just found out I am going tonight and the last time I sat where I am sititng..the double OT game against the Sabres.
DOUBLEN
Mon Apr 30 2012 3:28 pm EST
chinstrap: Luciano's is on Jones Street. You could foot it about 8-blocks. But it is one of the best sports bars anywhere. A very San Francisco experience. On Mason and Eddy is a great sports bar with TVs all over the place. They show every game. Tons of microbrew local beers. Those two are your better choices because of the number of TV's and the atmosphere. Some of the smaller sports bars in the area cover the local teams (The Giants & A's this time of year) and may not even air the games. If you want to do the touristy thing and trolley over the hill and go to Knuckles. Thats a great sports bar. Very famous. Its also the most "international" sports bar in San Francisco given its location and the number of tourists that go there. For my money though Lucianos is fantastic. Plus the food is awesome.
E
Mon Apr 30 2012 3:25 pm EST
Now all we need is a nice, old school TOBIAS BBBOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!
josh29
Mon Apr 30 2012 3:11 pm EST
"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, All play and no work makes Jack a mere toy."All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, All play and no work makes Jack a mere toy. ”All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, All play and no work makes Jack a mere toy. ” ”
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 3:07 pm EST
PJ - I hear ya...Can't remember how many times I screamed for the Ranger to cover the point against Ottawa..But, that's not their game, they are into collapsing back...Against Ottawa I think it lead to too much traffic right in front of The King...and alot of point shots with potential defelections...but, they won....Not so much the other day but they still had a number of those chances including one that hit the post....I don't see the Rangers changing their defensive zone strategy..We'll see what the caps do...Best thing for the Rangers is to pressure them in their zone, clog the middle and keep it out...
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 3:06 pm EST
Hospo - No...but he's joining the Whale. That's fueled all kinds of speculation of sorts even though it's kind of a no-brainer move for any kind in juniors that got knocked out of the playoffs.
tdchi
Mon Apr 30 2012 3:02 pm EST
dugster...............you're NUTS.......................Let's Go Rangers !
Newfie_Ranger
Mon Apr 30 2012 2:45 pm EST
LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSRaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS
thedugster
Mon Apr 30 2012 2:30 pm EST
I have been watching Bickel when he is in there...I really don't see that he is doing badly...All it takes is one shift where we are pinned down with Bickel on the ice and that is it for him....Fact is it happens to the other D also....To add us getting pinned in our zone is more on the forwards as we choose to leave the point people alone and collapse down....It is causing me some major stess for sure as my heart starts pounding when they start with the shooting gallery....
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 2:23 pm EST
josh that was his idea, to lull guys than use his best when it counted.....McGiant would be able to fit in Bickles little role, but he's not called up. That kid will help the Whale, if they need him. He's hopefully, the next BeukeBOOM. .,
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 2:18 pm EST
I would think that pos hunter will stick to exactly the same game plan. The NYR got very few shots on goal. Holeby has to make the saves. The best goaltender wins in those games, or the luckiest.
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 1:39 pm EST
E - Agree on the long breakout pass..Thye tried it a few times on Saturday...and it was there on a few occasions....Rangers D (that's you Girardi) have to be carefull about not falling asleep...and to pick the right spots when they activate...
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 1:35 pm EST
Glad I could be of some amusement...You guys don't know how long it took me just to come up with the right words like funnekl!!!!.....Did I miss something, was Mcilrath called up by the Rangers?
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 1:34 pm EST
HOSPO: I am expecting the Caps to try to use break out passes to try to bust neutral ice and look for their skill guys to make plays. The NYR were practically stacked across the redline when they had the lead. They were just using a single forechecker or 2. Washington could not gain the zone and even if they did, they were ridden out along the boards. If they got it into the slot or any of the shooting zones with a guy in position, NYR players were diving in front of every puck and no matter how much traffic they got on Lundqvist most of his saves were routine. I expect the Caps to try to come out quick with some new set plays and look to jump on the NYR before they adjust because I honestly don't think they can win going blow for blow. We know what happens 95% of the time when the NYR go into the 3rd with the lead. And if the Caps can't get their goalie to settle? The NYR have every opportunity to put some space on the series. I also think that since game-6 of Ottawa the NYR have their arrogant swagger back. And when they play the game under the ether of "the cult" they are a mentally tough and clutch hockey team. If the Caps take it? Most of this is moot and the NYR are going to have to push harder. I really think that there is a seething desire from the players to beat this Washington team decisively.
E
Mon Apr 30 2012 1:30 pm EST
RF4L - Maybe I'm reading this banter about McLIRATH wrong and I apologize in advance if I am...But I wouldn't make any assumptions about the kid at this point regardless of what the Whale does with him in the playoffs...I was trying to watch him pretty carefully during Traverse City and during pre-season and I saw nothing in the kid's game that said he WOULDN'T be an NHLer. In fact, I was rather impressed with his shot from the point, which looked like the rocket the Rangers have lacked back there for sometime...One other thing I'll note is that there are going to be a few spots opening up on the right side depending on what happens with STRALMAN. It's my impression that BICKEL could be a space-holder for when Big Mac finally shows he's ready for the NHL...But with all this said, I've never had high hopes for McIlrath. I was really quite surprised with how he looked last summer for that reason. He's one of the Ranger picks where I was literally kicking things after he was announced...Bjugstad was the kid I really wanted...but also Tinordi, Jaden Schwartz...I wasn't high on Cam Fowler, but even he seemed like amore logical choice than Mac...He's got a lot to live up to being 10th overall and he's in a situation where the Rangers' top 5 defensemen are basically chiseled in stone, NOT including SAUER and with ERIXON already having a year in the AHL under his belt. Should be interesting to see how this pans out
tdchi
Mon Apr 30 2012 1:23 pm EST
Caps have no shot in this series. I just can't see it. They did their upset thing over Boston; it ends now. We win in 5 or 6. I'm kind of surprised at the Cap-fear here, side-by-side with the confidence we'll handle Philly, which I completely don't think will happen. But who knows?
Nick
Mon Apr 30 2012 1:22 pm EST
the only thing missing is, "OLA."
mf
Mon Apr 30 2012 1:12 pm EST
MF - if they DO start funnekling, we are sckrewked!
josh29
Mon Apr 30 2012 1:11 pm EST
LOL! I hope that the Rangers can FUNNEKL more shots to the net in this game, and not miss and CHANG them againbst the goalposts. They need to get more than 14 shots at Holtby.
Bob
Mon Apr 30 2012 1:05 pm EST
lets see: the Caps don't "Funnekl", they may "chang', & Holtby crapped the bed.... Now we know how to beat them! Go Team ! :->)
mf
Mon Apr 30 2012 12:56 pm EST
BOB - That is what I said earlier about the Caps going to the slot and crease....However, camping there like the Sens is not really their game.....neither is playing like the Sens--they don;t have Karlsson to funnekl the pucks to.... ......But if they do chang, they risk the chance of not doing waht has made them succesful...The Caps played decent on Saturday but Holtby crapped the Bed...I see a more energetic forecheck but no big changes from them.......And I think you are being a little hard on the Rangers....They had 36 hours to get ready for that silly afternoon game..and no Boyle..and no Dubi......I expect the Rangers to be much more on their game also...physically and mentally....A good chance they can forecheck and hem the Caps in,,,If so, I think they are the better team then the Caps and think it will have to be Holtby that steals the game, not the other way...Or, more likely, just a close, even game where a mistake breaks it..
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 12:47 pm EST
I doubt the Caps will deviate from the plan that allowed them to beat the Bruins...They need Holtby to be huge and convert when they get some chances....If we stay out of the box and be patient we should win...Tonight is huge though as this is the game in the first series that we lost and allowed the Sens to pick up huge momentum...
PJ
Mon Apr 30 2012 12:40 pm EST
stevie - what's the strategy? To keep opponents on their toes by only trying to win faceoffs at important times?
josh29
Mon Apr 30 2012 12:39 pm EST
I expect that the Caps will come out much more like Ottawa tonight. They will have studied the video and will get on our players along the boards much faster, and they will place rear ends in Henrik's face too. Holtby will also be better. I expect that Henrik will have to steal this game for us tonight. Unless the Rangers do some things differenty and step up their effort, they will go back to Washington tied 1-1.
Bob
Mon Apr 30 2012 12:25 pm EST
Something I am hoping for....that the Caps players remember the last two series against the rangers. If they do, they will naturally revert to what worked before to beat the Rangers, and with THIS rangers team that mean death, because they would have to open up to do that, and if they do that the Rangers bury them. The caps are only a threat because they have played a solid 2 way game, if they deviate from that they are not that good this year at all, and with a newer coach, and a team that really has only been playing this way for a couple months, it could happen.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 30 2012 12:16 pm EST
stevie: I'm not saying don't put McIlrath in. On teh contrary - if you feel he won't be a hinderance, he should dress. Therein lays the key and crux of my post - how good do the Rangers truly believe this kid is. If he doesn't dress that, to me, says a lot.
RF4L
Mon Apr 30 2012 12:14 pm EST
Re Hrivik: An interesting article on the kid by Bruce Berlet - how nice if he's the real deal. And seems like his head and heart are in the right places....http://www.howlings.net/2012/04/26/berlet-spotlight-marek-hrivik/
RF4L
Mon Apr 30 2012 12:08 pm EST
heard an interesting trick by Ron Francis. He would lose unimportant faceoffs on purpose. Not a bad concept if true.
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 11:46 am EST
Oh yeah, TORTS up as a finaist for the Jack Adams with Hitchcock and Maclean..All three deserve it, but so do DINEEN and TIPPET
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 11:44 am EST
The Caps will come out like gangbusters tonight but here's hoping they take a page out of the Predators book and deviate from their game plan, play sloppy and make mistakes...Not likely, but possible....Still, Rangers have to play their game likethe last two against the Sens....Pressure the Caps D in their end, they will lose battles and cough the puck up if we do it enough...But, the Rangers forwards can'tforget to backcheck...Ditto for Dan Girardi who coasted on that Cap goal..
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:51 am EST
I wouldn't be shocked if MCILRATH is given a spot in the Whale lineup... both THOMAS and MILLER were inserted as soon as they arrived. And let's face it - they swept Bridgeport, but it was a much closer series than it looked. Most of the Whale's offense was generated by BOURQUE or HRIVIK. The team has struggled offensively as of late - the guys that should be putting up points aren't. HRIVIK has been very impressive during the playoffs thus far. Plus...he's a big kid. On a team where most of the forwards are midgets, he's a breath of fresh air.
Dineen11
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:24 am EST
BOB/DUG: Thanks. E: I'm in Union Square in SF. 99% sure I can get them to put it on at my hotel bar, I saw a few TVs with the Preds game on last night. But other suggestions are welcome. Thanks.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:07 am EST
SEMIN- Has been a NYR killer over the years... he took 2 bad penalties in Game 1 and is reported to be skating on the 4th line in practice today...
schneidw
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:07 am EST
KIS - Chill out man, has nothing to do about "stupidity". it's not like anybody on here plays the damn game..Just idle chatter between friends on a slow day.....Of course, the Caps are what matters now and everybody knows...Interesting to see what adjustments both teams make....Neither are gamblers but i expect both to be stronger on the forecheck, expecially the Caps...One good thing for the Rangers is that the Caps don't go to the slot or crease as much as Ottawa did with their big bodies---but maybe that is a change they make?.....As for the Rangers, I thought they controlled the puck alot n the Cpas end, jsut didn't get many shots..I can live with that if they are winning....Key against the Caps is to get that first goal--they play different ......Don't want to rush BOYLE, but it would be nice to have him back..If so, EMMINGER for BickeL?
Hospo
Mon Apr 30 2012 10:06 am EST
TDICHI- GOod points on Briere.. he must pace himself during the regular season because he does immediately turn on the afterburners during the playoffs every year it seems... crazy ot think the NYRs could have had him for free after PHX put him on waivers....
schneidw
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:53 am EST
WILDCARD: Understood… RHETORIC: Its good to hear that Boyle could be back. After all, Boyler is the NYR terror on skates in the post season.
E
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:51 am EST
Larry Brooks reports that The Rangers are interested in signing undrafted 20-year-old free agent winger Marek Hrivik, who joined the AHL Whale late in the season after playing the last three seasons with Moncton of the QMJHL, after the season. Hrivik has four goals in three Whale playoff games.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:49 am EST
E: I was referring to the Canadian Hockey League, the umbrella org that oversees all of the different leagues in Canadian major junior hockey, they are the ones who set the rules like head shots and such...
Wildcard
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:48 am EST
Brian Boyle is on the ice this morning for the morning skate today... he has been skating for the last three days with no ill after-affects from the concussion... of course the Rangers wont say whether he'll be playing or not until game time... Boyle should be a pretty good bet to return tonight... Dubi doesn't look like he's close to returning with what's believed to be an ankle injury.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:48 am EST
RF4L.."this isn't exactly a time of year to experiment with a player you're not sure of, after all...."...can you say Kreider?.......let the kid get some experience, but of course that's up to Gernander........
stevielegs
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:40 am EST
Can't believe people are being stupid enough to say whom they would rather play in the next round. Lets get past the Caps first. Watch if the Ranger's lose tonight, the sky will be falling tomorrow. Washington is a very tough team. Lets just get through this round guys.
KIS
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:25 am EST
But on a bigger level, right now we are beginning to enter the phase where many of our top prospects are playing professional hockey and have the opportunities to secure themselves roster spots. Kreider (who I think is going to stay in NY,) Thomas, McIlrath, MZA, JT Miller, Erixon, Fasth (if he jumps,) & some of those second tier guys like Yogan. The NYR core 2.0 will begin to shape next season. Situations emerge like perhaps for example, Fed (who I think we should re-sign another 1-year) secures a spot as JT Miller is brought along and is an heir apparent. MZA, who looks like he took a quantum leap is likely to have already cemented a spot on the roster assuming there is one. Thomas, may be up and down all season. Erixon looks to make the team. In terms of player development, the pipeline is going to be delivering. Whether players for the NYR or assets for trades the top team in the league now has a core of professional minor leaguers being groomed to play in the NHL. And no longer just 1 or 2 but many. Good times… Great playoffs, great future, and everything seemingly firing on all cylinders.
E
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:10 am EST
I am not discounting what you are saying but when I watched him play he was a terror. An old throwback player. He looked to crush everything that moved. However big he was at last seasons camp he looks bigger now. And his skating and positioning is pretty solid. He was in every scrum on the ice. He was a classic born and bred WHL guy. And he was the toughest of them all. I think other kids are genuinely afraid of him but now he is a pro and things are different. Is he strong? OH YES he is. Some of you might recall him getting between the net and puck against one of the NJD tough guys. Going to the dasher to play the puck he put a shoulder into him and just put him on his ass. Borderline penalty but he showed something right there. He also dives for pucks and does a lot of dirty work that will make him an asset. I am expecting that you will see him a few games next season and we will see. Some saw a perennial AHL player but I see a kid who is more dynamic. I think he is not only an NHL player but he is going to be a good one. He will probably get exposed periodically, but heh… so does Shea Weber. As an asset on the ice (although he says that he doesn't see himself as a fighter) he will be a guy that will excel in the rough stuff. OH!!! And he can hit in open ice. And he will. What does that translate into? Don't know for sure but I think he has a bright future in NYR.
E
Mon Apr 30 2012 9:04 am EST
tdchi - Flyers PP was at 50.0% in Round 1 (9-for-18). They went 1-for-6 (16.7%) against the Devils in Game 1, so I'm not sure how much was an amazing Flyers PP and how much was horrendous D/G by the Pens...
josh29
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:57 am EST
WILDCARD: McIlrath played in the WHL.
E
Mon Apr 30 2012 8:39 am EST
MCILRATH: I think part of the issue when it comes to offensive numbers for him is....well its actually 2 things. 1) I read at some point that he was playing like every shift against the other teams top players. Some what like McD...people were thinking he would struggle to get 10 points in the NHL after his Junior year in college, but it has turned out that he has more to come of that. Part of the lack of scoring for the Truck is the way he was used. 2) He got going offensively a couple times and than got suspended. once it was an OK fate, as he went a bit high on a guy only an inch or two shorter than him, however, the other one I can think of that stopped a good run offensively was an "illegal check to the head" But the guy he hit was like 5 foot 1, and Mcilraths hands were down and he was bent over slightly....I mean its not his fault he is big, but in the world of the CHL they don't care... that's part of why I would like to see some "tag" to put on players to bring them to the AHL earlier...Mcilrath was just so much bigger than so many other guys he got penalized for it. So with those things I think it hampered him some on the score sheet. that is NOT to say he isn't raw still and doesn't need work. Now he played a couple games last year for the Whale, so he may see ice time, but I imagine it will be after a week or two of practice at least unless there is a injury or two. But lets hope for the Whales sake that they don't have injuries like that.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:58 am EST
TD: I'm one of those who thought the Gomez signing was good, although I believe I balked at the money Sather gave him. He arrived as a puck distributing centerman, something the Rangers sorely lacked (and did until Richards signed last summer). Clearly, he benefited, as many did before him (and still do) from playing within that Devil system, although really when you think about it, it doesn't make sense. The Devil system usually stifles individual creativity, so how did Gomez score 33 goals for the Devils one year and 56 assists in another? Great supporting staff I guess, goes a long way, something he didn't have in NY. Also, I think part of the problem was Sather's miscalculation that the team's inner circle could handle the passing of the torch from JJ to Gomez (and Drury). That failed miserably. The most positive thing about the entire 2 headed blunder (Gomez and Drury) is that it helped (I think) solidify in Sather's little mind that the best way to build a team, especialy from a chemistry standpoint, is from within. I mean most hockey men know that - it took that idiot Sather 10 flipping years of pain and ridicule to figure it out.....
RF4L
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:51 am EST
Dineen: I read that, too. I wonder if he'll get into any games - this isn't exactly a time of year to experiment with a player you're not sure of, after all. If he does get in and plays well, that'll be very encouraging. I think there's a lot of questions about McIlrath in terms of how legitimate a prospect he really is - I'm sure the Rangers were expecting more progress out of him over the past junior seasons, especially offensively. That isn't to suggest he's a bust, but I think he's quite raw and needs plenty of work before he's ready to take a regular turn on the Ranger blueline. I'm not basing this on tons of hours watching of course, but I wonder if he's upside is really a bottom 3rd pairing. That's not a terrrible thing, but given where he was selected, if that's how it turns out a little disappointing. Again, I'm not predicting anything yet. Just musing....
RF4L
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:49 am EST
In a little "what could have been" this morning...I remember the Wall being pretty evenly split when it came to signing one of GOMEZ, DRURY and BRIERE...I remember listing them in that order(didn't want anything to do with Briere though)...but I do remember there being a vocal contingent advocating for him to be signed...He's had his ups and downs in Philly...but man has he been a playoff performer. I start to think about what the Rangers might have looked like last year with Briere in the middle...or the year before...or even now. Granted, we probably wouldn't have B-RICH...and I kind of like him better anyway...but Briere has been a beast this year in the POs, just like every year he's played for Philly. Deep Thoughts...
tdchi
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:42 am EST
Nick -Was watching some of that game too and there were A LOT of missed calls. There was one play right by the Phoenix net within plain sight of the ref where Mike FISHER brutally crosschecked the defender either in the back of the neck or just below. The guy went down like a ton of bricks...no call...Perhaps it's a case of triage: There's so much to call these guys are simply taking the first penalty they can when four are coming down the pike...E - I wouldn't wish SEMIN on my worst enemy. The fact that Washington pays him over $6 million is dumbfounding to me. So much skill, yet such an undisciplined POS. Caps could have held onto FLEISCHMANN, GORDON and STECKEL had the simply gotten rid of that loser...and they would have been a much tougher team too.
tdchi
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:33 am EST
WAAAY too early to be thinking about the next round...but some thoughts on the other possible teams that might be going there...BRYZGALOV has been an utter train wreck in net. The guy is just awful...and the Flyers are stuck with him for the next nine years...The Flyers defense is also dreadful, which is part of the reason Spaceman is such a disaster in net...this is a high-octane team that will never quit offensively...and if you're not defensively sound or if your goaltender is off or both(in the case of the Pens), they'll run the score on you quick...the Flyers' PP is simply stunning. I don't know what their percentage is, but it's high...The Devils on the other hand, don't have a very good PK. And they were taking penalties yesterday at a clip that basically handed the game to the Flyers...And while BRODEUR has his moments, it's clear that he wears down late in the game. He was letting in some stinkers toward the end...But the Devils also play the same stifling defense they've played for years...they don't have nearly the bodies on the blueline anymore, but they still play a good defensive game...The Flyers are the tougher of the teams, but to be honest, the Devils play a game that would be tougher on this Ranger club if they make it...but let's not get ahead of Game 2. Caps will be coming out with a taste for blood. I'm sure Hunter probably spend the past 36 hours reviewing last year's playoffs against the Rangers and is making adjustments. One of them has got to be getting more rubber on net...I bet we see twice the number of shots on Hank, who, despite the Rangers getting pinned toward the end of the game, had a pretty easy ride Saturday.
tdchi
Mon Apr 30 2012 7:12 am EST
Head’s up: Boyle may be back tonight...........http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/head_up_boyle_may_be_back_tonight_r2QvCiLhRbhhknVLzkTMbL
mf
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:50 am EST
Kreider has blazed from Chestnut Hill to the top of the heap................. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/kreider_today_has_blazed_from_chestnut_t1LhW1LptogFei9O30scoN#ixzz1tWWgjDex
mf
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:44 am EST
Happy 21st to Chris Kreider! I hope his first legal drink is champagne from Lord Stanley's Cup.
nyfans
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:27 am EST
DYLAN MCILRATH is joining the Whale today.
Dineen11
Mon Apr 30 2012 6:25 am EST
I noticed the NBC guys stole "Krieders on the Storm" from RFC:)
jnyr
Mon Apr 30 2012 5:42 am EST
You can catch the games at ---www.vipbox.tv---just wait for the pop ups to go away in 30 seconds and your good to go,,,,,
thedugster
Mon Apr 30 2012 2:20 am EST
I much rather play Philly than NJD. For two reasons really. First of all, I am kind of afraid of NJD, or any other team really, adapting to how we play. So often, "still", we just shoot the puck up ice to get it down low and than go after it. NJD, and especially last season, tore that strategy apart a couple of times. Its not the biggest of my worries, but NJD can be one sneaky team and going up 7 games against a team like that always takes alot of X and O. SECONDLY, I just like this team alot more when its not a "favorite". We won the east, but it definitely seem like that guys feel like the kids play like kids going up against the world against teams like Philly and Boston and co, while we struggle some with the presure against teams like Ottawa.
Ola
Mon Apr 30 2012 1:06 am EST
CHIN: tell me where you are and I can tell you a couple places where you can catch the game.
E
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:00 pm EST
Cool....Lets GO RANGERS!!!!!! Do not disapoint the old guy....Me!
MelvilleFred
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:54 pm EST
i will probably be standing in front of sec 315 between period.... wearing heritage # 7 JERSEY...LGR....
NYR7
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:46 pm EST
NYR7.....I'm not sure where I am but I'll try to swing by.....
MelvilleFred
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:45 pm EST
sorry thats the Rangers DEVILS playoffs of 08....
NYR7
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:44 pm EST
MELVILLE .I'M IN SEC 318 tomorrow...come by and say high havent seen you since the RANGER/ DEVILS in 09.....
NYR7
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:23 pm EST
I would rather play Newark next series. Hank has Fatso's number. Playing Philly after we whipped them all year is risky.
Bob
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:19 pm EST
This Phx/Preds games has been nuts with all the scoring. 5-3 Phx in the 3 rd.
NYStranger
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:11 pm EST
Yes Fred I like to worry well ahead of when it is called for! I'm down here in the belly of the orange beast and I don't know if I can even watch if that matchup occurs. But we'll see! Bob: Yeah, that Legwand play was wacky as hell. The Preds D-men were also mesmerized by the puck on goals 3 & 4 ... had they turned around they might have covered someone.
Nick
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:49 pm EST
I don't care about what happens in Devils-Philly. Lets go Rangers!
Brian2d
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:48 pm EST
Nick....just read the entire Philly thread....sounds like we're on the same page.....but have your people call my people anyway. I think we'd have a great time.
MelvilleFred
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:47 pm EST
FRED---then, there is that Islander loving son of yours.......................
Bob
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:45 pm EST
....my B'day present came early....my daughter...Ranger Fan that she is got 2 tickets for tomorrow night game.....I guess I raised her right......
MelvilleFred
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:43 pm EST
Nick....obviously you and I need to have a POWER Lunch to strategize.....have your people call my people to set this up.... LOL!
MelvilleFred
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:41 pm EST
Not that I really give a rats arse but I thought Fatso was interfered with on the winning goal today also....Would rather play the Devils also but I will worry about our series first....Oh and Kovalchoke was just awful today....
PJ
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:38 pm EST
I'm rooting for the Debies in their series not looking to play the Flyers having beat them 6 times already....bad karma....then again I don't want to get ahead of myself.....we better take care of business first. Boyle skated today......
MelvilleFred
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:36 pm EST
www.vipbox.tv
thedugster
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:31 pm EST
NICK--I think the Nashville d-men were too busy trying to figure out why their own teammate Legwand threw the puck into the slot. What a dopey play.
Bob
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:29 pm EST
CHIN---The Hockeys Future Rangers page had game day threads where someone posts the available streams for each game. I have this problem too now, as the cheapskate NHL has hosed up who have Center Icce and Game Day by not including the first 2 rounds of the playoffs, like they did every year before this year. Not enough cable systems carry NHLN or NBCSN.
Bob
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:28 pm EST
I don't believe in having anyone's number in the POs. That 6-0 record against the Flyers is something I put no stock in. As for Preds-Yotes, didnt anyone notice Rinne get tripped in the crease on that third goal? Micheletti needs a cane and guide dog, but even Nashville didn't seem to be upset about it ... Very strange.
Nick
Sun Apr 29 2012 7:42 pm EST
Do any of you fine people know how I can watch the game online tomorrow? I'm in San Francisco for work and my hotel doesn't have NBC Sports. And you can't watch on NHL.com in the playoffs (another ridiculous move by the amazing Commish). Any sites that are streaming playoff games? Thanks.
chinstrap
Sun Apr 29 2012 6:29 pm EST
NIck - we'tre the opposite.. I want Philly to sweep the Devils.....I want the excitement of a series againstthe Flyers...a team I aht much more than the Devils......and not inly do the Rangers have their number. so does The KIng...And I would much rather have that choke artist of Bryz in goal than Marty...Didn't see alll the game today..but he looked average at best and he was pathetic against the Pens..The POs are the time for Goalies to make the difference if the teams are close...and I wouild love a King-Bryz matchup.....but FIRST THINGS FIRST, lets take Game Two against the Caps..!!
Hospo
Sun Apr 29 2012 5:25 pm EST
Well that sucks. I want NJ to fluke past the Flyers then get crushed by us in 5. But no way. I don't believe they will win a game this round. I want no part of PHL. Too tense and they have too much depth.
Nick
Sun Apr 29 2012 5:21 pm EST
I just watched game-1 alone when it is quiet so I could provide better analysis. One of the biggest things that stuck right out was Holtby. He looked shaky at best. The Kreider goal he should have stopped. The AA goal he also should have gotten. By no fault of his own he got stuck against Richards who could've gotten dinner and smoked a cigarette before he shot it. But yeah, he looked pretty unsteady compared to the Boston series. Holtby better up his game. The NYR are probably going to throw everything on net next game. He just seemed to be fighting the puck. The NYR should try to seriously rattle his cage.
E
Sun Apr 29 2012 3:51 pm EST
PJ: they were trying to spring OV and Semin cutting across the red line. The NYR centers did a great job dropping back while the defenseman shadowed them. The 5 man defensive coverage outside the zone was excellent.
E
Sun Apr 29 2012 12:42 pm EST
E...It may change but I did not feel the Caps applied near as much pressure yesterday as the Sens....The Sens were far more physical than the Caps were yesterday...The one thing I did see yesterday and the Rangers better be careful with it is the long pass and getting behind our D....It almost connected a couple of times....As I heard someone say last night their is no way the Caps can out Ranger the Rangers as we have been playing this style all year....
PJ
Sun Apr 29 2012 12:38 pm EST
And what about that Washington PF: Semin? If that kid could learn to consistently play like he has been what a piece he will become for the next destination in his career. He is been tough for the little bitch that he is.n
E
Sun Apr 29 2012 12:36 pm EST
HOSPO: but also keep in mind that the teams made due with what they have. Games rise and sink based on competition. There was also a feeling out process going on. Despite not playing well by NYR standards they were for the most part quicker and harder on the puck and seemed to dominate huge swathes of shifts with time of possesion. The Caps locked down in a way that rivals the best of Montreal and NJD schemes could ever. And the NYR didn't seem to have the "ooomph" to maintain a pushing of the pace. So they too circled the wagons and went single forechecker. And with the lead the NYR seemed happy to cut the ice off and stare Washington down. It had to be aggravating to have these endless shifts where the NYR dumped the puck, sent in Prust who completed a check and grinded the boards only to have Washington clear the puck into the puck to midice and the NYR dumped it down deep again. The NYR complacency also almost killed them AGAIN!!! They got pinned into their own end and almost died from exhaustion. Hunter felt so much that he had the NYR he pulled his net minder and was rotating players in and out while the NYR circled in, and just blocked shots while the Caps were winding up and firing away. This penchant that the NYR have for doing this is going to hurt them. They did it frequently with upper echelon teams during the regular season and Ottawa pinned them in several times over 7. Stats aside, I believe that the Caps are far more deadly than Ottawa is in the post season. They scare me. It will cost them dearly.
E
Sun Apr 29 2012 12:21 pm EST
PJ: not that you out and out stated it but I think a little bit too much respect is being paid to the lack of time between series thing. Granted they have been basically playing back to back playoff games for over a week but there should be no let down just because they changed teams to play. I accept the argument that the team may be fatigued and banged up and perhaps a break would have been beneficial but I don't think that either team has put some arbitrary let down line in the sand because they changed opponents. The grind is on, and the only thing that changed is the opponent. And if they need time off then there should be a sense of urgency that if they can dispatch Washington earlier they can get some downtime. A feat easier talked about then accomplished.
E
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:51 am EST
Take two! I thought both teams played well defensively and we had the edge in net. These 'posts' the Caps hit? Bah! Glancing blows that I didn't even notice until I watched on TV last night. Hank got pieces also. And ... What's the diff between a post hit and the goalie deflecting a shot away with a inch of those giant catching baskets they use, or a goal sneaking through 3 inches ofthe five hole? The object is getting the puck IN the net, and an inch can make a difference whether it's iron or a pad or a stick. Caps can beat us but I don't see it.
Nick
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:50 am EST
Hospo: Re going after Kreider. The Sens didn't because his impact came so late in the series. The Caps might but guaranteed if the Rangers advance and Kreider continues to play an important role, the Flyers (if they beat the Devils) will.
RF4L
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:50 am EST
I must have watched a different game yesterday...I thought the Rangers played a strong game considering how quickly they had to play after closing out the Sens....Not to mention Boyle still out and his replacement at center Dubi also going out....Call them weak goals if you want but AA made a strong move to the front of the net and got a dirty goal for us...Kreider a great shot and Richards being Richards from that spot in front of the goalie...Not saying it won't be a tough series but I was hardly discouraged yesterday....
PJ
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:46 am EST
I yh
Nick
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:44 am EST
My favorite non-NYRs to watch are Selanne, Ovechkin, Stamkos. Oviedo is just a colorful performer; I get the impression Ranger fans don't hate him like Crosby but rather like to taunt him on general principles. As for old-timers, I grew up in the Emile Francis era and Ed Giacomin was the man. Ratelle, then late 70s Ulf Nilsson, Mike McEwen, Pat Hickey. I HATED the trade for the big overrated goof Beck. Hated it.
Nick
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:37 am EST
Totally feel the Rangers set the tone for last nights game and began the "wear down - clamp down" that we displayed all year. During the 1st periodwe were predominantly in Washingtons end of the ice and from there on in they tried to beat us at our own game. That ain't gonna work, although the Craps are playing a similar style as the NY Rangers, we've been under Torts tutaledge for way longer and Washington just will not stack up against our squad in terms of cosistency, backing each other up, nor in cohesive chemistry.... Where they frighten me is in a point the TD highlighted a day or two ago, and thats their Power Play..... Granted, our PK is great, we staved off a 5 on 3, but it could have turned out different.... Washington knows where the back of our net is......
mf
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:36 am EST
BOTH teams didn't play well yesterday..and you can blame the idiotic quick turnaround made worse by making it an afternoon game so that "TV fans" could witness the boring hockey instore.....Using a comlpete roster I think the Ranges can pen the Caps in their own end alot of tiems and win the series..But if you play with 13-14 skaters all the times, it's goinf to be hard to win anything.....The way he's playing (injured???)Almost given up on Gabby being a help agains any team but the Flyers....Hell, Prust, Feds, AA are so much more valuable..,..Just curious, but to the Caps started physically going after Kreider? I would....The sens never did a single thing...
Hospo
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:22 am EST
Also curious,.. Favorite NYR Player Past and Present? For me, Brian Leetch and Marc Staal with Jean Rattelle and Ryan McDonaugh a close 2nd!
schneidw
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:21 am EST
Just Curious... Who are your 5 favorite non-NYR players to watch in the NHL? Not even who you necessarily would want on the NYRs.. just who's talent and grit do you admire... Certainly for me, #1 on my list is and always has been Ovechkin, #2 Girouex, #3 Lindstrom, #4 Chara, and #5 St Louis and Selanne. I know i should have Crosby, Perry, etc on the list.. but these are my 6 favoriates.. couldnt reduce it further...
schneidw
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:19 am EST
schneidw: Great minds think alike??? ;^)
RF4L
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:15 am EST
RF4L- Hilarious! Just read your post which hit at the same time as mine... freaky similar...
schneidw
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:06 am EST
RF4L - No idea who this Kosmachuk guy is...but he does sound like a kid cut from the cloth that many of the current Rangers are...kind if a gritty Callahan-type player(a Guelph alumni actually)...While I certainly think we could do worse, I also noticed that Stefan MATTEAU is shown being picked by the Penguins two picks earlier...Personally, I think if that kid drops out of the top-10(which he likely will) and ESPECIALLY if he drops lower than 20th, the Rangers should really angle to trade up. He's even more the type of player the Rangers have targeted...stevielegs - I'm trying to go back to those days...I personally remember thinking he was a decent pick...the only thing that bothered me was that he was projected as being AT LEAST three years out...which he was...But all around, I don't remember too many people being upset with it...I remember the wall was REAL high on Scott GLENNIE and Zach KASSIAN...Also remember some people really wanting Carter ASHTON...if I remember correctly, ELLIS was another that was a darling of the board...but the only one of those guys still on the board when the Rangers picked was Ashton...There were more reservations over the McILRATH and MILLER picks than Kreider.
tdchi
Sun Apr 29 2012 11:03 am EST
Screw Fish(abe vigoda)-ler! Another Ranger-hating-smarter than you-wanna be expert(maven.) It's the Rangers against the world at this point folks. Have any of you heard ANY outlet or announcers, media people say ANYTHING positive about this Club? "Kill 'em All and let God sort 'em Out!"
pa.rangersfan
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:58 am EST
that rule could have applied to pos/good guy neil.
stevielegs
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:57 am EST
lb..."...And that sets the NHL apart. * Honestly, with the way the first round was officiated, was anyone on Earth surprised when a series ended on an overtime goal that should have been nullified under Rule 69.1 covering goalkeeper interference? “If an attacking player enters the goal crease, and, by his actions, impairs the goalkeeper’s ability to defend his goal, and a goal is scored, the goal shall be disallowed,” the rule states. Guess we missed the part about, “Except when it involves Mike Knuble and Tim Thomas in overtime of Game 7.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/high_cap_can_buy_cup_T8bck0mBcq7JEk4wggJbeO#ixzz1tRgEgTuG
stevielegs
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:47 am EST
stevie: There's always gonna be critics no matter who gets selected, but I what I recall from that draft was concern expressed over the risk of taking a kid who'd never faced competition beyond highschool. That was a valid concern and no doubt weighed heavily on the Rangers decision when they selected him. Obviously, the raw tools were there - it was a matter of trying to ascertain whether or not he could step up as the competition level rose. Clearly, he has. Good job by Clark and team....
RF4L
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:44 am EST
My take on yesterday: The Rangers were the better team. Not once did I feel as though the Caps were going to turn the tide. And the B-Rich goal simply put the icing on the cake...KREIDER is a beast out there, like everyone has said. The combination of size, skill and speed in that guy is just dumbfounding. I watched a fair amount of him with BC and you always saw flashes of it. But now he's showing it every shift. He could really be our version of Bobby RYAN next season...which when you consider the Rangers depth going into the off-season...I know it's WAAAY too premature to talk about what the team will look like next season, but nearly every impact player is locked up into the foreseeable future...PRUST, FEDOTENKO, BIRON and DEL ZOTTO are the only three that need to be signed over the summer...then of course there's the looming ZUCCARELLO decision, which could hinge on whether he makes it back into the lineup next month...Anyway...while I agree there remain concerns about the Rangers' depth immediately, this team is going to be STACKED going into next season...unless they do some sort of crazy deal for NASH, which seems almost ridiculous now that they have a guy like Kreider playing... Back to yesterday's game...NO WAY do I discount the Caps' ability to comeback...not in the least...They fought hard to get into the playoffs and struggled to beat one of the best teams in the east...There is a TON of pressure on Washington to get out of the second round, something the big four(OVECHKIN, SEMIN, BACKSTROM and GREEN) have never done. Seeing that amount of talent languish after one round has got to be utterly maddening for the management and players alike...And I think this is the make-or-break year for that core before some seriously altering moves are made...In other words, the Caps are an injured animal backed in a corner...and those are the most dangerous kind...But with that said, I think if the Rangers can take Monday, they're going to be in really good shape to take the series...these are two very comparable teams in that they have very good defensive posture. Like I said earlier, the Caps biggest advantage is that they DO have guys like OV and Backstrom, who despite their woes are still very dangerous threats...the Rangers balance that out by having the clear(and overwhelming) edge in net, as we saw yesterday. This series is the Rangers' to lose, but they're still not going to have any easy wins.
tdchi
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:33 am EST
Shanahan Defends Rulings and Says They’ve Made a Difference........."Shanahan rebuffed the suggestion by many who say that his recent decisions have been influenced by Commissioner Gary Bettman, team owners" ....................http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/sports/hockey/defending-his-rulings-shanahan-stands-firm.html?pagewanted=1&ref=hockey
mf
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:32 am EST
Re: Krieder: The kids been great.... This is gonna change the whole offseason summer doldrums wish list posts. A good dilema; It's been fun being a Ranger fan this year....
mf
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:26 am EST
RF4L Kreider drafted in first round in 2009. Not sure how to get back to those posts, but I seem to remember many saying he wasn't a good pick, just fast. Guess G Clark has a better crystal ball, or set of them.
stevielegs
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:19 am EST
Yeah I know it's premature, but IMO still interesting. Found a mock 2012 draft today and whoever did had the Rangers selecting a kid from Guelph named Scott Kosmachuk. He's ranked 56th on Craig Button's top 60. I really like this write-up on him, however (sounds like a prototypical Ranger to me): http://www.mynhldraft.com/2012/NHL-Draft-Profiles/Scott-Kosmachuk
RF4L
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:18 am EST
"Torts is only rolling 2-1/2 lines... and 2 D pairs... dangerous... schneidw ".......guess they are not that deep.........it's his job to get 3 more wins against the craps, since he's steering this ship with the crew the way he deems necessary to get r done........but i agree , he's playing with fire, not using icetimes better....... it's his puck, good luck. .......
stevielegs
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:17 am EST
Rookie Continues His Rise, Taking Rangers Along...........http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/sports/hockey/chris-kreider-lifts-rangers-over-capitals-in-game-1.html?_r=1&ref=sports
mf
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:13 am EST
Hardly tested by Rangers in Game 1, Braden Holtby still struggles.....http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/28/not-tested-often-braden-holtbys-performance-suffer/
mf
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:09 am EST
And Fischler has always been a nob - his entire career he's floated out stupid crap just to ensure his name is remembered (ie Brad Park is better than Bobby Orr).
RF4L
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:07 am EST
Green’s gaffe opens door for Capitals’ loss to Rangers in Game 1 of playoffs .......... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/28/capitals-rangers-nhl-playoffs-green-kreider-holtby/
mf
Sun Apr 29 2012 10:06 am EST
On Torts/Fischler - yeah torts is an ass with media, no doubt. And it is boorish and classless. But, as long as we win, I really could care less. Lots of good coaches are like this with media - parcells, belichek, etc. The media are big boys that ALWAYS have the last word either in print or commentary, and most are insufferable windbags. I can remember plenty of blowhard moments by Stan "I-love-the-80s-isles" Fishhead. He can be pretty obnoxious.
limbo
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:51 am EST
2012 NHL playoffs: Capitals surrender upper hand to Rangers with 3-1 loss in Game 1............http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/2012-nhl-playoffs-capitals-surrender-upper-hand-to-rangers-with-3-1-loss-in-game-1/2012/04/28/gIQAtAiEoT_story.html
mf
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:45 am EST
BTW, what a snoozefest these POs have become. All but one of the goal-scoring more exciting teams (Philly) are gone, leaving behind a bunch of defense first, shot blocking, collapse in front of the net teams to go for the cup. This isn't to knock the intensity of the games, but from a pure entertainment value lots of zzzzzzzzzzzzz hockey (Caps and Rangers, 32 shots in TOTAL?). Of course, it's exciting if you a fan of one of the teams but I know I won't be watching much of any of the other series. I put on the LA/St Louis game and quickly changed. Nice job Buttphuck....
RF4L
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:42 am EST
Rangers’ Chris Krieder leads New York to victory, was playing college hockey three weeks ago ............ http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/rangers-chris-krieder-leads-new-york-to-victory-was-playing-college-hockey-three-weeks-ago/2012/04/28/gIQAZrVQoT_story.html
mf
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:31 am EST
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/2012-nhl-playoffs-capitals-chance-at-game-1-victory-against-rangers-gone-in-90-seconds/2012/04/28/gIQAJgCQoT_story.html
mf
Sun Apr 29 2012 9:04 am EST
14 shots by the Rangers and 5 posts by the Capitals. If that's view of this series, the Rangers are in tough, IMO. The first 2 Ranger goals were weak....
RF4L
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:18 am EST
JUST SAYIN' .... I am not going to get too overconfident... the CAPS played like absolute sh*t yesterday... their goalie gave the NYRs 2 gift goals... plus the Caps hit 5 posts and had better scoring chances... the NYRs only got 14 shots???? This game really could have been a loss... its a game of inches... Torts is only rolling 2-1/2 lines... and 2 D pairs... dangerous...
schneidw
Sun Apr 29 2012 8:01 am EST
Rivalry- My favorite one on one NHL matchup without a doubt is the ongoing battle between Ovechkin and Staal... classic hockey
schneidw
Sun Apr 29 2012 7:50 am EST
3rd Goal- 2 quick thoughts as I am watching the game on DVR this am... Sick individual play by Brad Richards... just sick@!... Also, I realize its playoff hockey but right after the goal, OVechkin blindsides Gaborik w a nasty cross check to hte back and then, Laich did the same exact thing to Richards WAY LATE... that is the kind of dirty nasty play that escalates into headhunting... refs need to watch the after whistle cheapshots...
schneidw
Sun Apr 29 2012 12:58 am EST
I get ya, my friend. Onto better things like Game 2 ....
Nick
Sun Apr 29 2012 12:07 am EST
Nick: no disagreement from me about Torts.... Many times he's just a complete ass.... There was no reason to be disrespectful to Fischler.... ...
mf
Sun Apr 29 2012 12:03 am EST
Not saying that at all, mf, but the guy is an arrogant fuck when he doesn't need to be. Have some class; some patience. Dealing with the media scrums is part of his extremely high-paying job. Off-topic I know but it bugged me.
Nick
Sun Apr 29 2012 12:03 am EST
Rangers take Game 1 from Capitals with strong third period......... Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/rangers_take_game_from_capitals_2nXi1GdVZ0c8xf33KwlarJ#ixzz1tP1iRt9g
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 11:56 pm EST
Fire Torts ! Just win the Cup first
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 11:42 pm EST
Nick...Heard that exchange and agree....Torts makes himself look like a total d-bag and well he really is....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 11:20 pm EST
Torts really is a huge d-bag. He simply has to be the smartest (ass) in the room. Regardless of how you feel about the reporters in general and Fischler in particular, he humiliated him postgame when the old man asked about the Richards goal being a special effort in that he picked his spot. 'Are you asking me or telling me it was 'special'? I don't know how special it was. He 'picked his spot? Oh, okay (smirk)." Yeah, you got over on an 80 year old. This guy is an asshole. I say this apart from his coaching on which he is no better or worse than most of them. JMHO.
Nick
Sat Apr 28 2012 11:17 pm EST
Dwight King, prepare for a visit from... the SHANABOMBER. http://imgur.com/955S0
josh29
Sat Apr 28 2012 11:16 pm EST
BOB - Insult to injury (literally) - LA scores the GWG shorthanded during that PK...
josh29
Sat Apr 28 2012 10:48 pm EST
SHAMALAMA DING DONG !!! Lets Go Rangers !!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2JFJ6B9xoY
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 10:20 pm EST
nice to see the Rangers win without Dubi......I know Dubi has underperformed this year big time...but i hate to see him out of the lineup....So todays win was a good confirmation that this team has a chance to win no matter who they plug n play into the lineup.
TradeStar28
Sat Apr 28 2012 9:11 pm EST
Maybe SHANALAME will call to give him a warning. Shanahan to said player. " Please don't do that again or you will have to pick up all the pucks after practice".
barto
Sat Apr 28 2012 8:39 pm EST
In St. Louis, a 3rd line scrub named Ling takes out Pietrangelo with a hit from behind and gets only 2:00 while Pietrangelo is out being evaluated for a head injury. More expert refereeing by the NHL.
Bob
Sat Apr 28 2012 8:04 pm EST
Barto... I do, it looked like a shoulder injury at the time... He seemed to be playing better in Game 7 though... BTW, Great job by Anisimov tonight taking over centering duties on the checking line... the Rangers really have some interchangeable forwards these days... chemistry does not seem to be a problem no matter who plays with whom.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 7:25 pm EST
It was not a perfect game, but we looked a lot better against the Caps than we did against Ottawa. Still have to get better and, most importantly, get more shots on the goal. Still, all of them played well today on the quick turnaround. Win Monday and this puppy could be over quickly.
Bob
Sat Apr 28 2012 6:06 pm EST
Don't know if anyone remembers Gabby getting crushed in game 2 and slow to get up. He seems to be avoiding any kind of contact on his right side. Just curious if anyone else noticed. Great win need another 3.
barto
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:51 pm EST
Game 2, Monday Noght at "The Garden" ..... Its alos Chris Krieder's 21st Birthday..... The kid's living a dream come true....... Happy B'Day C.K........ Lets Go Rangers...
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:46 pm EST
Don't know if anyone remembers Gabby getting crushed in game 2 and slow to get up. He seems to be avoiding any kind of contact on his right side. Just curious if anyone else noticed. Great win need another 3.
barto
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:44 pm EST
Hospo: what the hell is a , "sove?"
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:28 pm EST
Kreider goal brought house down ... crowd loves him ... amazing stuff looks like real thing. Glad I came up from Philly!
Nick
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:28 pm EST
SJW - Yes, unbleivable two cosecutive shifts by FEDS......And why oh why does it seem that the NBC broadcasts want to focus on the Caps...even see the Caps win...Onkly changed with Kreider...Don't these bozos realize the Tv market impacts with the Rngers going on and being spotlighted compared to the Caps..The idiocy of anything connected to the NHL administratin just boggles my mind..
Hospo
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:24 pm EST
KREIDER..........BOOM!.. what a game the kid played...speed is unbeivable...and th smarts...I liked the nifty little assist on RIchards goal as much as his sove....ANyway, just glad fgor a WIN...After the quick turn around....Both DUbi and Boyle being out for the first time......They found a way.....Caps are a different team when they are not tied or winning....There D can abused...and the Rngers didn't much more often then the soth total indicate......SOme lazy Play at times by the Rangers---they can't let up for one second...The only guy that scared me was DZ, takng too many chance....A short bench once again with minimla time to too many players....I understand where Torts is coming from given the talent of 4th liners nd even 6th-7th d-man...but in the long I think they should get more time...Only thing I change...That and to be a little more alert for that long pass..
Hospo
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:22 pm EST
Per Gross.... Chris Kreider said of his goal, he was tired at the end of a long shift, a little surprised it went in because he rarely takes slap shots.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:21 pm EST
Per Andrew Gross... Chris Kreider wears the Broadway Hat. Says "it's a little small."
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:19 pm EST
Key was that 5-3 kill with Feds with at least 2 blocks that I can revcall .. and Feds 1 on 3 holdin the puck in the corner until Anisimov arrived ...
sjw
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:13 pm EST
Ranges win again! Fucken ah! Krieder was GREAT! Holtby in trouble! Rangers against the NHL and NBC what shit NBC should feel Lucy to get out of NYC alive! What A GREAT YEAR for the NY RANGERS! Hank played Hank! Craps in trouble all there eggs riding on a rookie goaltender who is finally facing some shots and screens in front. Score early next game and he is done! OV the 10 million dollar bench warmer! GREAT WIN RANGERS!
Jerry_Garcia
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:09 pm EST
Haven't even thought about buying a sweater since I retired #9. But damn if I don't have a strong itch to pull the trigger on one now! #20 would look good for many years I think!
DCIGolfer
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:05 pm EST
Richards had a great game and now you see why he was signed to thi team. Feds good game but Kreider is unbelievable. I hope he never comes off this high. Can a 20 yr. old kid who's first games are the NHL playoffs be this good and effective? unreal
KIS
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:04 pm EST
Hopefully a lot of Knicks fans got to watcht the Rangers today (not much to watch today as far as the Knickerbockers go)
josh29
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:03 pm EST
Rhet = I was thinking the same exact thing. "Well, they won 3-1... BUT their powerplay was terrible, Gaborik's just not going..." Seriously, if you didn't know better, you'd have thought the Rangers lost 6-0. For all their bashing of the Rangers power play (0-4) they didn't mention a damn thing about the Caps powerplay (0-4) or Ovechking/Backstrom/Green's play out there. - - - - Side note: Anyone else find it funny that we went from Karlsson on D in Round 1, to Carlson on D in Round 2. For a second, I thought Doc Emrick was confused (as he usually is -- at one point, he commented on Gaborik back on D. It was Staal)
josh29
Sat Apr 28 2012 5:02 pm EST
Nice to get a few dirty goals. We didn't really get any on Anderson. As someone pointed out already, get to Holtby early next game and we'll take a 2-0 lead to Washington.
RDW
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:57 pm EST
Huge win today!,, not may shots and Holtby had a rough game...Rangers need to get one early in game two and shake his confidence! We were a bit lucky on the three posts but the King played great. Krieder....what a shot. LGR!!!!!
NYStranger
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:57 pm EST
OMG.... Listening to these two idiots on the post game... talking like the Rangers were lucky to get away with one... what did the Rangers ever do to them?
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:55 pm EST
PJ... Easily Tank's best game as a Ranger. That was a game changer.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:53 pm EST
Don't forget about Feds...Assisted on first goal and was an absolute beast killing that 5-3....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:52 pm EST
I also just commented to my boy KIS; The Sens seemed a much more complete opponent. Hope the boys don't get over confident.
pa.rangersfan
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:52 pm EST
Getting through this game was huge....We will get people back and get even better....Caps not near as physical as Sens....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:48 pm EST
DCIGolfer... Totally agree... the goal post has been Lundqvist's best friend all year.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:46 pm EST
No Dubinsky, No Boyle, Eminger on the 3rd line as a forward... less than 48 hours from playing Game 7... this was a HUGE WIN for us.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:46 pm EST
Lundqvist gotta piece of 2 if not three of those shots that hit posts. No luck needed! Fucking hate NBC's biased coverage. Fuck them!
DCIGolfer
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:44 pm EST
Kreider is the man..............he is going to be a stud for many years.
Bob
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:41 pm EST
YES.....NEED 11 MORE......
stevielegs
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:40 pm EST
WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:37 pm EST
They have hit 3 posts, so I guess we are lucky to be winning, but I get the feeling this will be a short series. Ottawa was way better
pete
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:37 pm EST
E... RICHARDS was a beast for the Lightning in their run for the Cup and he's showing the young guys on this team how it's done... Maybe KREIDER is the SAVIOR after all :)
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:33 pm EST
Have to wake up....Horrible turnover right there...We got lucky...
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:32 pm EST
puck is bouncing like basketball
stevielegs
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:30 pm EST
TOO MANY-MAN
stevielegs
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:29 pm EST
Count down to 8 minute mark with OVIE SUCKS, OVIE SUCKS!!!
DCIGolfer
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:27 pm EST
Man Kreider is a beast. I said this kid was going to be the real deal, but even I thought a month or so in the AHL was going to be part of his future. Signing him now was obviously a great idea. RF4L at one point the BlueJackets were asking for Kreider in the deal
York18
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:27 pm EST
CK now has more post season points then Rick Nash.
E
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:25 pm EST
This won't work....Get a forecheck going....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:25 pm EST
Richards has put this team on his back and carried it. CK just keeps on a scoring.
E
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:23 pm EST
Bob - Yes, MCILRATH is expected to join the Whale. This could explain why SHANE MCCOLGAN and some other kid whose name I can't remember right now (he never played a game) have been released from their ATOs. The Whale have lots and lots of extra bodies piling up now...
Dineen11
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:21 pm EST
Keep going...No sitting on this lead....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:21 pm EST
should read... Kreider with the double shift assist.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:21 pm EST
GREAT hard working goal by Richards.... Kreider with the double shit assist.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:20 pm EST
The Rookie Gets The Helper On That Goal !! Yeah Baby
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:20 pm EST
B-Rich!!! Take that Brich!
DCIGolfer
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:19 pm EST
Richards!!!!....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:19 pm EST
RICHARDS WITH ANOTHER BIG MONEY GOAL.....YEAH BABY
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:19 pm EST
Look what happens when you shoot the puck
DOUBLEN
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:19 pm EST
R-MAN
stevielegs
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:18 pm EST
Krieder! His jersey sales just tripled! LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Z
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:18 pm EST
Gabby..take note on that goal..shoot the puck high and not into the logo.
DOUBLEN
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:18 pm EST
GO ROOKIE GO: KRIEDER
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:17 pm EST
I love this Kid Kreider!!!
DCIGolfer
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:17 pm EST
KREIDER.... wow. That is all.
Dineen11
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:16 pm EST
This kid is unreal....Is he really ours?
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:16 pm EST
KREIDER!!!!!
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:16 pm EST
K-MAN
stevielegs
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:12 pm EST
Rhet...We really can't hit the net...
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:08 pm EST
SEMIN is putting on a clinic of why no one should sign him in the offseason.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:05 pm EST
Ahhh Yogi Berra, the greatest philosopher of all time... "It's never over til' it's over" :)
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:03 pm EST
Rhet: Its so much easier to make it difficult ..... Take that Yogi .. :->)
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:02 pm EST
Stepan 6-11 on face offs... go Stepan!
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 4:00 pm EST
MF... He gave up a bad goal is a lot easier... even the greatest goalies gave up bad goals.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:58 pm EST
Need a big 3rd period from Gabby. If we play the third like we did the second(minus the last second meltdown)we'll take this game.
RDW
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:58 pm EST
gaborik did screw up the 3 on 2, he never looked to pass, he had haglin , then late he had richards on back side, he never looks for those. that's a problem , at least if your struggling , find the open man . hard to listen to these guys, rangers pin washington in for 2 shifts , and some how rangers are lucky to not get scored on ??? am i watching the same game, washingtons lucky they're not down by 3.
doct
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:57 pm EST
Its hard to find fault with a player the calibet of Lundquist......so, I'll phrase it this way; in my opinion, Lundquist can elevate his game some, if he could identify the times to drop to the knees versus staying on his feet a bit more accurately.... It is like an involuntary reflex that he goes to the knees so often.... He could use a little Kenny Dryden standup tapes to review....
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:56 pm EST
The Rangers still missed the net a lot in that period... we can't score if we can't hit the net.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:51 pm EST
The height of stupidity....getting caught deep with 10 seconds in the period. Really inexcusable.
Bob
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:51 pm EST
Boy did Gaborik screw up that 3-2 rush...If he dishes to Hagelin I assure you it is 2-0.....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:50 pm EST
Agreed Hank has to make that stop but should never have had to....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:48 pm EST
That was just horrible...Can't let them behind you that late in the period...Girardi has to know better...Eddie O and McGuire are thrilled....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:48 pm EST
That sucked
rngrsans
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:48 pm EST
Lundquist stays on his feet and that puck Does Not go in .......
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:47 pm EST
Lundqvist should've had that.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:36 pm EST
It is incredible how much these announcers are pulling for Caps....You can't knock the goalie into the net to score....F off....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:34 pm EST
I meant Mottau impression :)
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:33 pm EST
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
mf
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:32 pm EST
Anisimov doing his Stepan impression!!
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:32 pm EST
AA....Amazing!...GO RANGERS!
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 3:27 pm EST
Wow... amazing job on the PK.... Tank with some crazy huge play.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:59 pm EST
Agreed Rhet...We controlled play for stretches but did little with it...Not a bad period by any means....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:58 pm EST
the net too.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:58 pm EST
The Rangers have to do a better job of hitting the next in the 2nd period... we had the puck a lot... need to do better.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:40 pm EST
I'm smelling a short handed goal coming :)
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:28 pm EST
Cally has to improve his acting... PJ... I kind of like trying to shake up a young goaltender.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:27 pm EST
Rupp is a moron
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:20 pm EST
We can do this....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:20 pm EST
All reports today were that Boyle looked good and felt good, I'm hoping the Rangers are just being cautious... Go Rangers!
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:19 pm EST
GO TIME
stevielegs
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:14 pm EST
Oh Geez, I can tell already the NBC announcers will be rooting for the Caps now.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:12 pm EST
Holtby played as well against the Bruins as Anderson did against us.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:08 pm EST
Man, how good would Mike Knuble look in the lineup today with Boyle and Dubi out... oh wait, he is in the lineup... for the CAPS.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 2:02 pm EST
PJ.... Richards was superb the other day, he'll just need to win every one today :) ..Stepan has averaged below 50% all season, I wonder if we'll see Cally will take more face offs today.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 1:58 pm EST
Down two guys today means the rest of the team has to suck it up and make up the difference. Gaborik, Richards, Stepan, Hagelin, Callahan and Kreider, we need big things out of you today. Let's Go Rangers!
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 1:57 pm EST
Not down on anyone but Boyle and Dubi out? ....Faceoffs should be fun....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 1:54 pm EST
PJ... Anisimov has played well, it should be... interesting... The 4th line usually doesn't play much... Maybe Kreider or Anisimov gets double shifted.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 1:54 pm EST
Ok now I am nervous as hell....
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 1:51 pm EST
Rhet...Don't like the sound of that at all...Will need to dig down deep in this one...
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 1:50 pm EST
Anisimov centering Tank and Prust.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 1:49 pm EST
NYR Intangibles
stevielegs
Sat Apr 28 2012 1:49 pm EST
Eminger is skating on the 4th Line with Rupp and Mitchell in warmups.... so it looks like Dubi and Boyle may be out for Game 1
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 1:29 pm EST
Just don't know what to expect today....Kind of numb....Not nervous but not overly confident either....LET'S GO RANGERS
PJ
Sat Apr 28 2012 12:47 pm EST
Thanks RHET. Hope he can get some experience and a jump on next season in the AHL.
Bob
Sat Apr 28 2012 12:44 pm EST
Bob... McIlrath is expected to join the Whale. Hopefully he gets to see some playing time.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 12:40 pm EST
Moose jaw was eliminated. Does this mean that McIlrath can join the Whale now? Is McIlrath done with juniors for good now?
Bob
Sat Apr 28 2012 12:21 pm EST
The Only thing Torts said during his Pre-Game Interview was "No Updates" three times... Glad to see the postseason hasn't mellowed him :)
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 12:18 pm EST
Watch: Round Two Pump Up Video... http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2012/04/28/watch-game-one-pump-up-video/
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 12:08 pm EST
The Caps have been a thorn in our sides in the postseason for years... they're about do for an ass beating... Rangers in 6... The Rangers are staying very tight-lipped on injuries... we wont know if either Dubi or Boyle are playing today until game time... TD... Agree with you 100% on Gaborik... it also had looked like he had a shoulder injury in game 2 or 3? Not that I'm giving him excuses, but I do expect him to have a better series against the Caps...
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 28 2012 12:04 pm EST
Crosby----gone. Malkin--gone. Thomas--gone. Chicago--gone, Canada-based franchises--gone. The only NHL madated "darling" still left in.....Alex Ovechkin. Therefore, we will kill more penalties than we have PP's and generally get hosed as we have in the past. P.S.--I went to the game 7 loss by the Caps to the Penguins a few years ago at Verizon. The crowd was not bad, but they pumped additional crowd noise through the PA system. I couldn't believe it. Their crowd has sure improved since OV arrived. But they are no match for the garden.
Bob
Sat Apr 28 2012 12:02 pm EST
I truly believe that last year had Callahan not gone down before the playoffs we would have beaten the Caps. This year we have a much better team but the Caps are also improved (in terms of being built for the playoffs). So, this should make for a really good series. We split the first 4 (losing/winning one on home) followed by another key Ranger win at home in Game 5. Rangers in 6 or 7.
Ranger47
Sat Apr 28 2012 11:57 am EST
Keys to today's NY Rangers win: Show no respect, put pucks to the net, take away time and space, get guys in front of the net, Hank play like Hank, HAVE FUN! PS: GREAT GAME 7, who says home field does not help MSG rocks without piping the crowd on the PA systems like the Craps do at Verizon Ctr.! Wear that NY RANGERS jersey with pride! Remember its the Rangers against the NHL, NBC, and lets not forget dickhead announcer for NBC Mike Emrick. If he only put on hockey skates one time in his life he would be 100% more in touch with what is actually going-on on the ice. But instead we get 2 then 1 then penalty is over BS from its mouth. You Suck! Have to watch the game on TV with volume off. Hope turning TV volume off lowers TV ratings cause NBC is missing out on a big market while having this homer announcing games. Show some class dick wipe!
Jerry_Garcia
Sat Apr 28 2012 11:35 am EST
I think that we will ultimately win this series. It might take 7 games. Caps are good, and the Rangers always make games more difficult than they need to be. Alzner and Carlson are good d-men, and terrific skaters. Semin and Backstrom always hurt us, less so than Ovechkin. I am not sure that the Caps are better than the current edition of the Ottawa Senators, but I do not underestimate them. The last game of the season is what the Caps can do to us......and if they truly have a goalie who won't screw up, we will have trouble scoring. I thought that Holtby was better than either Nuevirth or Varlamov a couple years ago. Often times, game 1 is a throwaway game and not indicative of the overall series. We need to take this game today.
Bob
Sat Apr 28 2012 10:58 am EST
Rule 4: iPad accidental double tap.
E
Sat Apr 28 2012 10:57 am EST
Absolutely no one should be looking at this Washington series and think to themselves that the NYR have a big edge. Washington is tuned for post season play. Let us not forget that they have played in the proverbial deep end of the playoffs virtually every season for a time now. Washington is SUPREMELY talented and in transition they can just murder you. They seem to have found a rookie who can play in the nets effectively. And for all of the experience they are big, physical, and mean. Boston did not intimidate them at all. I have a healthy dose of leeriness and respect because I could easily see them tattooing the NYR in rapid succession and then clog the zone and force the NYR E-W. This is going to be a tougher series than Ottawa was. I must admit though, I really wanted to see this matchup. I think that Washington is the demon spectre that looms over the NYR head. To vanquish the Caps would go a long ways. I am sure considering how the NYR were standing in neutral (besides Boyle) last season that this one has a little "extra" meaning.
E
Sat Apr 28 2012 10:57 am EST
Absolutely no one should be looking at this Washington series and think to themselves that the NYR have a big edge. Washington is tuned for post season play. Let us not forget that they have played in the proverbial deep end of the playoffs virtually every season for a time now. Washington is SUPREMELY talented and in transition they can just murder you. They seem to have found a rookie who can play in the nets effectively. And for all of the experience they are big, physical, and mean. Boston did not intimidate them at all. I have a healthy dose of leeriness and respect because I could easily see them tattooing the NYR in rapid succession and then clog the zone and force the NYR E-W. This is going to be a tougher series than Ottawa was. I must admit though, I really wanted to see this matchup. I think that Washington is the demon spectre that looms over the NYR head. To vanquish the Caps would go a long ways. I am sure considering how the NYR were standing in neutral (besides Boyle) last season that this one has a little "extra" meaning.
E
Sat Apr 28 2012 10:40 am EST
RF4L: let us also not forget Brooks Laich who has been a pain in the ass for some time.
E
Sat Apr 28 2012 8:22 am EST
RF4L: I think that it will be nice to have a cleaner series...neither team has a cheapshot artist...so while it might get mean and nasty, it will be tough on tough and skill on skill.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 28 2012 8:19 am EST
Monk: I'm surprised you asked that - haven't you been watching the infamous OV/Staal matches over the past few years (not counting this season, of course). Staal is so effective against him that he'll purposely avoid coming down Staal's side. As I said with TD, the Caps 3rd line I think will give the Rangers D fits - Stralman will find them tough. This series they're gonna miss Sauer a lot I think....
RF4L
Sat Apr 28 2012 8:17 am EST
td: yeah Staal should be the guy, Ovechkin has publicly stated its a challange to play against him, and Staal has done better than most against OV. That would also let Giradi, and McD shut someone else down...unless G and Staal are back together.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 28 2012 8:16 am EST
TD: Totally agree that this series will be tough. Washington doesn't have anything like the trio of Neil, Konopka and Carkner in terms of cheapshot crap, but they are bigger and more physical overall. That 3rd line of Hendricks, Johnason and Chimera worries me as much as the big 3...
RF4L
Sat Apr 28 2012 8:13 am EST
Monk - That would be Marc STAAL. Or at least that's who they usually sick on the big bear.
tdchi
Sat Apr 28 2012 8:13 am EST
On Gabby. The Sens may be the only team with a D man as smart, skilled and quick as Karlson(sp). Gabby could not get seperatly because he was against a D man who was able to react to his exceleration and movement and stay on him. The Caps have no such player, nor any of the other teams left that I can think of.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 28 2012 8:12 am EST
schniedw - You think the Sens were big...take a gander at the Caps...sheesh. The ONLY guys shorter than 6-foot and lighter than 200 pounds are PERREAULT and AUCOIN...and they're not exactly guys that eat up a lot of minutes.This is NOT going to be an easy series...this is NOT the Capitals of early in the season. They're a much tighter and stifling team under Hunter...so you got to contain the big three, which is no easy task at all...then you've got to figure out some way to score...On GIROUX...yeah, it's kind of a bummer...well...really a bummer...They also overlooked BERGLUND in that draft, and he's a big reason for the success in St. Louis...but to defend the pick, Sather was looking to build from the blueline out, and the puck-moving SANGUINETTI was a logical choice after he nabbed STAAL and SAUER the year before. If I recall, he had a pretty monster year in juniors and then followed it up with a killer playoffs...AND...he was a "local" boy, which was one of those things that always seemed to attract the Garden brass to picks(see: Hugh JESSIMAN)...I personally never liked the pick...I remember thinking 'Sangwa-who?" when they called him.
tdchi
Sat Apr 28 2012 8:00 am EST
I don't understand the GABORIK bashing at all...the guy played fine in all seven games...he just didn't light up the score sheet. Part of that was because Ottawa rightly identified him as the most dangerous threat to score on the ice and then shadowed him the whole series. Even with his speed and his release, it's tough to score goals when there's always someone two steps from you. Of course, when you have KREIDER and HAGELIN out there...two guys who can pretty much be gone after their second stride...having a player always shadowing Gaborik isn't necessarily a bad thing...Pretty much it means there's always someone on the ice that's open...Also...if you're gonna discount this notion, you simply can't ignore the fact that Gabby was playing a VERY effective two-way game, which is huge from a player like him...For instance, take the Capitals and OVECHKIN: He literally needed to be benched for Washington to beat Boston. He is a goddamn defensive liability whenever he's on the ice. I can't think of another player with so much offensive skill and all-around talent who simply sucks as bad as he does in the defensive zone. Part of Hunter's success and Boudreau's failure is rooted in how they play(ed) OV. Boudreau simply couldn't bring himself to pull OV in big-game situations where they needed defense. Hunter doesn't give a shit. He'll sit OV for 15 minutes if its a tight game and they're winning...Now take Gaborik...would I put him on the penalty kill? Hell no. But I'd have no problem sending him on his regular shift in the last 10 minutes of a 2-1 game. All season, he's been adequate. And in the playoffs, he's actually turned up his physicality. Also, as I said, Gabby on the ice often means one of his linemates is wide open.
tdchi
Sat Apr 28 2012 7:33 am EST
Congrats to Henrik for being named a Hart Trophy Finalist! Well-deserved, IMO. Looking forward to today's game....bringing my son with me for his second live game ever. Ribs and Sam Adams at Brother Jimmy's first, and then to the Garden! LET"S GO RANGERS!
STPB
Sat Apr 28 2012 7:07 am EST
SENS- Last thought, damn.. I thought they were a finesse team (think Redden) but looking over their roster, aside from Karlssen the entire roster averages 210 lbs..BIG and its showed in this series.. Andersson was a solid goalie... anyways, I am psyched to think the NYRs survived the Sens since I didnt realize how good they are... Bring on the Caps and Holtby
schneidw
Sat Apr 28 2012 7:01 am EST
SENS- I thought Foligno, Turris, Michalek was a powerful line for the Sens with size, skill and speed.. Also thought SPezza pretty much sucked and floated most of the series.. he is over-rated and way overpaid... Cowan/Karlsson are young and solid d-pair.. Kills me to think the NYRs drafted Sanguintetti over both Girioux and Foligno in the 2006 1st Round draft..
schneidw
Sat Apr 28 2012 6:57 am EST
I'm sure it's been discussed already, but who do we put on Ovechkin?
FerociousMonk94
Sat Apr 28 2012 6:55 am EST
Dubinksky- after rewatching game 7, it looks like he hyper-extended his left knee crashing the goalie crease on a nice drive midway in the 3rd... he took another shift, rehurt the knee and limped off... sure hope its only a sprain...
schneidw
Sat Apr 28 2012 6:51 am EST
HOSPO- Excellent point. I fully agree. I just rewatched Game 7 this am (couldnt sleep) and from what I saw, Gaborik had a great game 7...he did go into the traffic areas and played solid defense.. so there is no doubt he is ready to break out... but in the Sens series overall, he was looking over his shoulder way too much.. I have to give the punk C Neil credit, he was a monster all series...
schneidw
Sat Apr 28 2012 6:48 am EST
NN- Where is the time machine when you need it? How great are those memories??!!
schneidw
Fri Apr 27 2012 10:03 pm EST
Found my ticketstubs from 94...Sec 425 Row G Seat 5..1st 3 rounds $25 a ticket; Finals $32 a ticket.
DOUBLEN
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:56 pm EST
JFC: I'm with you 100%. I've been on the STRALMAN bandwagon most of the year but he looked extremely shaky to me during Game 7. Hopefully he learns from it.
chinstrap
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:23 pm EST
JFC - I didn't see it....Only because I closed my eyes when he was on the ice!
Hospo
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:22 pm EST
schneidw - Hey, if Steapan can go from a pansy picking prancer for about 15 games then finally get it, maybe Gabby can refind it after 6-7? I thoiught he had a fairly physical year with good attention to defense and backchecking...and still one of the top snipers in the game...That's all we need, his regular season play...Don't know why it went missing...I'm betting he has a good seie against Washington
Hospo
Fri Apr 27 2012 8:45 pm EST
Did anyone else besides me think Strallman was a weak link lin Game 7? He handled the puck like it was a hand grenade.....couldn't hold it in at the point many times, gave it away behind the net a couple of times.....the kid makes me very nervous.
JFC31
Fri Apr 27 2012 7:34 pm EST
Hello wallsters, another exciting week in store. LGR Just thought I would toss in my one cent on Gabby. I thought he back checked, hustled and took quite a few hard hits to try and hold the puck in. Ottawa did a good job limiting his time and space.
barto
Fri Apr 27 2012 7:24 pm EST
New Suggestion: only dress Boyle for the playoffs. What gets into this guy in the post season? And let's lay off of Gaborik people. The criticism is getting hyperbolic. Ottawa did a great job shadowing him in that series. Anderson made a couple of unbelievable saves when Gaborik had him dead to rights. There is no way that you can hold Gaborik off the board forever. Kudos to Ottawa for a good job all series. And think of this. Go back to some of the Ottawa players interviews all series long and listen to the one guy they all said must be kept covered: Gaborik. Why is that? Why were they so worried about him all series long? Because he was the killer and they needed to make sure he stayed off of the board. There is no guarantee that Washington will be able to be nearly as effective. Sure Gaborik missed Hagelin but truth be told, Kreider and Hagelin were scary fast together. But I am not worried about Gaborik because I think that he will slip loose but this is what happens during the playoffs. Your key guys get shadowed. You have to give Ottawa credit. They played an unbelievable series. Now comes Washington. Can they do the same? Don't know. They are playing well but Boston was sputtering and inconsistent in their series. Are the NYR? I think that the NYR are a machine that during game 6 was tuned up and is firing hard right now. Washington will have their hands full and I give the NYR every chance to take this series. NYR in 6-7
E
Fri Apr 27 2012 6:33 pm EST
I disagree with all the Gabby bashing. He had chances, he played the full length of the ice. He gave hits and took hits. He really missed Hagelin. I think he will be fine.
Bob
Fri Apr 27 2012 6:30 pm EST
Gaborik- Cmon' Wallsters... Its the same Gaborik we see each playoffs... a super skilled player who is afraid of rough contact and is so focused on avoiding being hit that he is not getting in good position to score.. simple is that... he hangs around the perimeter, never goes hard to the net when there is any traffic..... in his defense, the Sens knew this was Gaborik's M.O. and went out their way to knock him around... NYRs did not do a good enough job protecting him... Del Zotto was the only NYR retaliator... Neal ran rampant in the series... I have no idea why Rupp was not matched up against Neal more often...
schneidw
Fri Apr 27 2012 5:54 pm EST
just glad they won, so nick can go to the game instead of jumping off the curb. .......great to hear the NYR are now a dynasty, and The Cup is a lock, and the depth is long and wide. But there is no one really qualified to get promoted from the Whale ( that means moby dick? ) But MZA is close.... I'm confused, but that's normal. At least the doom and gloom is on the back burner for now. ......they need to play like they played the last 2 games, even though it's nerve racking. It's a lot better than last Saturday , when they really didn't show up with any real intensity. I like the name Ovechoke or Ovechchoke, hope it's true. Never liked Hunter, but he has turned that team upside down. He's making McPhee look good, not an easy job................ The NYR need 4 wins, hope they can do it faster than 7, but I'll take 7 if necessary. ......pass the Kreider pie..........but I'm not convinced yet he will be an elite player.....Nash pretty much is ( but only Sather knows what price they asked or if they were even serious).....they are rare.........pass the koolaide too, let's see if it works..........just remember I started the Relax Bus ;-).............catch the crows.......Infinite Intangibles.........slapping your own back, could lead to arthritis. .......and don't form a circle...... wher's the wildside?.......end of semi-rant.......
stevielegs
Fri Apr 27 2012 5:42 pm EST
BOB - Correctamundo....This could be a real weird series...Both teams are responsible and disciplined and don't take alot of chances offensively....May oscillate between some borinf neutral zone stuff and some heavy duty forechecking and and puck pursuit in both ends.....How the D handles the puck can be key---maybe why we see EMMINGER?
Hospo
Fri Apr 27 2012 5:33 pm EST
I would not be surprised if this series goes the distance . That is the kind of team we have. I sure underestimated the value of Hagelin. But his absence opened the door fro Kreider and the re-emergence of Stepan. We are a better team now than we were when the playoffs began. Staal is back too.
Bob
Fri Apr 27 2012 5:13 pm EST
I really believe Gaborik is just fine...Sens focused on him but he did break loose a few times and just didn't score...I don't see the lack of effort others do but he hasn't been as decisive as usual...
PJ
Fri Apr 27 2012 5:10 pm EST
I don't know what to think about Gabby. Maybe he contributes a lot more maybe not. Did any else feel that he looked like he was skating with an injury? Maybe a leg or groin but he seems very shaky and slow and week on the puck that last couple of games. Just fuel for the fire, I guess. LGR!!!!!
NYStranger
Fri Apr 27 2012 4:35 pm EST
Giacomin - I think Cally deserves a nomination..but hard to say a bad word about this years nominees-- BACKES, BERGERON or DATSYUK...some good all around players in the NHL.
Hospo
Fri Apr 27 2012 4:14 pm EST
Can anyone tell me if Callahan has been considered for a selke and if not why not, he seems like an awesome penalty killer and all around great defensive player
giacomin
Fri Apr 27 2012 3:49 pm EST
Josh29... True to form, I hear CYNDY bitches and whines there as well when he doesn't get his way.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 27 2012 3:34 pm EST
Hospo: Very true. Sid the Kid has LOTS of depth for his foursome, teeing off tomorrow morning at 10am at Fox Chapel...
josh29
Fri Apr 27 2012 2:53 pm EST
If BOYLE and DUBI out, maybe see Emminger on D and Bickel at forward..Not that either will play much..Kreider has helped the depth, but it's still shallow..Other teams are facing the same also...except Sidney and the Penguins..:)
Hospo
Fri Apr 27 2012 2:41 pm EST
Jumped the gun a bit with Boyle... anything he does of course will all depend on him being symptom free.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 27 2012 2:41 pm EST
Sucks about Dubi if he's hurt, but Boyle will slide right in..Be nice to have both and drop Mitchell..Caps play responsible, disipline, hard nosed hockey...Won't be easy..but the Rangers should have enough to take them..The last two games with the return of Step and Hagelin as well as Kreider getting more comforatable shows the type of way they can and should play..Boyle will help even more...
Hospo
Fri Apr 27 2012 2:36 pm EST
MZA Update... The hard cast is gone, but he's wearing the removable soft cast and has been skating for the last three days... with the Rangers injury blackout on players during the Playoffs, it's tough to say how close he is.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 27 2012 2:32 pm EST
Acc'd to Brooks game story, Dubi did not play the final 11 minutes. Seemed to injure - or aggravate - ankle/knee early in 3rd. He also left ice for 5 minutes or so in the first period, so that's why I say aggravate. ... lack of depth may turn out to be big bugaboo. Zuc should be back at some point, but Boyle out, now perhaps Dubi. Oh, forgot, Scott available ... woo hoo
Zebop
Fri Apr 27 2012 2:28 pm EST
Great News that Boyler was practicing with the team today.. he's expected to dress for Game 1... Schneidw... You are correct, sir! He has the obligatory "lower body injury".... But... outside of a concussion or him being DOA... I don't think there's any way you'll get him out of the lineup.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 27 2012 2:15 pm EST
Hello Wallsters! I don't know if this is prohibited for posting or not (it does say no form of commercial solicitation) but I have two extra tickets for tomorrow's game at MSG. I am going with my son. They are in section 120 and if you are interested please e-mail me at mperna9@msn.com
STPB
Fri Apr 27 2012 2:07 pm EST
Good to see the Senators taking the loss like men. I actually heard Erik Karlsson scream "F----ng pig..." to Lundqvist on TV in Swedish when they shook hands, with a big smile on his face. The last five minutes were incredible by Lundqvist... Like in the Olympic Gold Medal Game.
Mikael
Fri Apr 27 2012 1:56 pm EST
DUBINSKY-- I posted last nigth that I saw Dubi limp off the ice and that I never saw him return.. don't think he played at all in teh 3rd period... Brooks reports he is NOT at practice today... looked to me like he couldnt put any weight on his left foot....
schneidw
Fri Apr 27 2012 1:12 pm EST
I noticed last night that Dubi and Prust seem to have developed some very good chemistry. Interesting to see if they stay together on a line when and if Boyle comes back. Also interesting to see who will shadow Obitchkin. Wish Mr. Erixon's father were here for that gig.
Punchrolfe
Fri Apr 27 2012 1:04 pm EST
This series will not be easy either. It is close to a toss up. It will not be a short series. The Caps won 3 of 4 games in Boston. Not an easy thing to do.
Bob
Fri Apr 27 2012 1:03 pm EST
This picture is priceless... http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2012/04/27/picture-brendan-shanahan-poses-with-sign-that-says-he-sucks/
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 27 2012 1:01 pm EST
Although Ovechkin was sulking a bit, he played the good soldier in Round 1.......because they were in the series. I have to believe if the Rangers get a 2-0 lead in games, he will blow up and the Caps will implode from the inside out.
Fotiu22
Fri Apr 27 2012 1:00 pm EST
VIC... I know there was another d-man but he was on the other side of the ice playing left defense, and would not have been able to stop a shot from the red line from Carl Hagelin unless we throws his stick or something. That's why it should have been called a goal. Gonchar realized its a sure goal so he trips Carl. Very similar to the no call play Ryan Callahan had in the winter classless game with an empty net in front of him. LETS GO RANGERS HEAVE HO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jerry_Garcia
Fri Apr 27 2012 12:45 pm EST
You said it! 60, but look not a day over 57. Often feel 77.
Nick
Fri Apr 27 2012 12:27 pm EST
NICK: That's awesome. And you're old.
chinstrap
Fri Apr 27 2012 12:20 pm EST
TWO games.
Nick
Fri Apr 27 2012 12:19 pm EST
I've dug down and will again pay the MSG/Stub Hub extortionists for a seat tomorrow ... way up high on the corner, my favorite place. That's to playoff games for me this year ... last time was 1994 Game Two against the NYI and that year turned out pretty good! Way better than 1972 when I sat there and watched the hated Bruins carry the Cup around Garden ice ...
Nick
Fri Apr 27 2012 12:14 pm EST
Autocorrect is alive and well on the wall, with SAUERKRAUT making another appearance (NCRANGER- I feel your pain!) and TDCHI, I'm hoping Luongo being an "escaped goat" is not the plot of a Hangover sequel!
ColoradoMark
Fri Apr 27 2012 12:09 pm EST
Been a long time. Was at game all I can say is In-Kreider-ble! Kid has wheels.
Steve443c10
Fri Apr 27 2012 11:55 am EST
JERRY: That only applies in the case of a breakaway. There was another SENS defender that was back.
Vic
Fri Apr 27 2012 11:43 am EST
E... It's amazing the transition Kreider went through between games 3 and 7... he went from being a spectator in awe of everything around him in game 3, to the best skater on the ice in game 7... wow.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 27 2012 11:42 am EST
Great Game Rangers, Lundqvist was outstanding as was all the Rangers! Defense first wins championships. Side note to NHL, if a player trips another player how has the puck with a empty net infront of him, then its an automatic goal. Gonchars trip on Carl Hagelin should have been called a goal. You have the make that call regardless of the score or how much time is left in the game. There is nothing in the rule book that says first decide the game situation before making this call or not, but that's what the NHL consistently does and it is wrong and is hurting the NHL!
Jerry_Garcia
Fri Apr 27 2012 11:40 am EST
Not to take anything away from Stamkos, but I think the Hart will come down to Lundqvist and Malkin... and JMO, but I think Lundqvist wins the Vezina and Malkin wins the Hart.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 27 2012 11:39 am EST
PJ: I wasn't so much worried about rushing Kreider but I was concerned that the NYR had little options besides Kreider in case of injury. The way Kreider has stepped in has been eye-popping. I knew he was very fast. I just didn't know he was THAT fast. His first step is unreal. The NYR puck pursuit system is tailor made for a kid like that. The moment you receive the puck he is on you. The closure rate is something impressive. He was forcing turnovers, bad passes, and forced dumps all night long in the neutral zone. You got to love it. However, at some point he is going to hit some adversity and the ether will wear off a little. It will be how he deals with it that will define him as a player this season. But for all intensive purposes one thing is certain: this kid has awesome upside. Maybe even elite. Of course, many a player has entered the NHL with elite talent and fell short of what people thought he should be.
E
Fri Apr 27 2012 11:35 am EST
Hats off to Brad Richards going 10 of 16 and Dubi going 6-10 on face offs in game 7... if we can keep that going we might actually win the next round in 5 instead of 7 games... Hospo... Kreider... wow, that could've backfired on SLATS... huge gamble that seems to have paid off... we'll also be getting back MZA during this series and Sather could end up looking like a genius... but' we'll still know the truth :)
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 27 2012 11:29 am EST
My .02 cents on some of the comments flying about... Yes STAAL was BRILLIANT the last 2-3 games, but that doesn't make him the best Ranger defenseman in the series... IMO, that title goes to Ryan McDonagh... Rock steady game in and game out and kicking it up another notch in the playoffs... NO ONE was as important to the Rangers winning or played as well as Henrik Lundqvist.... 1.70 GAA... .945 Saves % in the playoffs... HOSPO... I have been one of Dubi's biggest critics and I have to agree with you... he went largely unnoticed those last 2 games, but his contributions were huge... including 4-6 on face offs in game 7... IMO, he's better suited for the checking line.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 27 2012 11:28 am EST
I haven't seen it made official anywhere yet, but I'm hearing SHANE MCCOLGAN was released from his ATO with the Whale.
Dineen11
Fri Apr 27 2012 11:15 am EST
King Henrik, Malkenstein and Stamkos announced as Hart finalists.
Zebop
Fri Apr 27 2012 11:09 am EST
VIC/PJ - No crow needed for saying Stepan sucked, he did for awhile (for wahtever reason)...Torts said the same..kinda...And the last two games showed how important he is.....As for KREIDER, it was obvious from a month or two ago that SATHER/RANGERS were COUNTIinG on him to play in the POs and make a difference....It took him a game to show it, but they made the right decision...and that is all that matters.....Bottom line is most guys are playing well right now, get Gabby going and avoid injuries and this team can make it to the Cup finals
Hospo
Fri Apr 27 2012 10:51 am EST
Vic...I am right there with you...I led the Stepan bashing and thankfully he turned his game around in a big way....Also was on Richards in game six and he scored right after....Last night I said Girardi needs to wake up and he scored the game winner....As for Kreider I also was screaming this kid is being rushed....Now I think I am seeing things as he blows past opponents who are considered good skaters....I agree with McGuire who said last night this kid is probably the fastest skater in the league right now.....The sweet taste of crow....May my clueless ways continue throughout the playoffs....
PJ
Fri Apr 27 2012 10:23 am EST
I'll take my serving of crow with ketchup please. I predicted the SENS in 6 prior to the series and about half way through game 6 it was looking like that was going to be the case. The Rangers woke up from there and fought their way back and deserved to win last night. A few other things that I wanted to say. I gave STEPAN as much crap as anyone for disappearing over the last month or two of the regular season and the first few games of the playoffs. Since then he has been very good in all three zones. This is the way they need him to play if the Rangers are going to make a deep run. He has to be a second line center that contributes offensively. My other comments are related to KREIDER. When I saw his first shift in his first game I nearly buried my face in my hands. He looked horrible. He looked slow and totally lost. My first thought was.......... "oh well, this kid isn't ready for prime time and shouldn't have been thrown into an NHL playoff series after making the jump from College. Maybe with a season or two of AHL hockey he might be ready". As that game wore on he settled in a bit and looked ok. Not great. Not NHL ready. Just ok. I am totally blown away by this kid's progress in less then a week. You could see him getting better every game. I swear he made more progress in a week then AA has made in 3 years. Last night he was clearly one of the Rangers top 3 forwards. You can make an argument that he was their best player for stretches of time last night. We've argued here before over prospects and where their perspective top end is before. I've maintained that you can tell pretty quickly when you are looking at a kid who is about 20 or so if he has the potential to be an elite player or not. KREIDER has that potential IMHO. I never thought that about STEPAN, AA, DUBI or CALLY. I never thought that about HAGS either. All of those guys have the potential to be really good players but I never saw them as having the potential to become dominant, elite players. I can see that potential in KREIDER. I don't know if he will become that but the potential is there IMHO.
Vic
Fri Apr 27 2012 10:07 am EST
Good news is we won a series with little from Gabby and I don't believe he will continue to be shut down....The Caps a very different team...OV ice time way down so don't be looking for large doses of him at even strength...We can definately pressure that D and no reason to believe we won't....Glad Devils won...Rather play them than Flyers and Cats had no chance vs Flyers in my opinion....Also should be a long series....Wow-we start the playoffs vs the # 8 and now# 7 seed.....
PJ
Fri Apr 27 2012 10:06 am EST
York, some good points there. I too noticed that Kreider pass and thought it's a good play in a very different situation, but at that time in this game a little too hopeful-aggressive so to speak. I also noticed a smart thing K did on the Staal goal: as Stepan rushed K actually surveyed the scene and stayed a bit high, which put him in a rebound spot, didn't clutter the passing lane and gave him some backcheck insurance if the play got turned around.
Nick
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:48 am EST
RF4L: The key word in my post was potential. I believe that to be true and would be surprised if at some point in the future if he is not considered amoung the very elite players in the league.He has the tools and so far has shown a compete level that has been beyond expectations.
gene_carr
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:46 am EST
I would love to see Kreider play in person. I can't believe how fast he is. His stride seems so effortless. How many of his sweaters are going to be sold. Hospo , I know my typing, spelling and sentence structure are horrible many times but I wonder if you are using a keyboard with braile on it. hahaha. Keep up the mesages brither.
KIS
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:35 am EST
Zebop - yeah, I kinda saw that with Gabby too..But you know what, I though he was GREAT with fiorechecking, backchecking during most of the year...Hope he finds that game whetehr it be becasue of increased desire..health or whatever...The Rangers got sero out of him and still won..
Hospo
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:33 am EST
TDCHI/RF4L - Thanks on GUDBRANSON, but I guess he wasn't Gud enough...Anyway, we disagree on alot of things here but one thing we don't disagree on is the heart, guts, effort, never quit character of the Rangers..Nothing shows t hat more then losing their Best player in the POs (Boyle) at the end of the game where they went down 3-2 in games...and coming back to win the next two games and series......I know he takes alot of crap and is now overpaid big time for his riole, but DUBI did a great job playing in Boyles spot the last few games...People talk about the Stepan pass...but the play from Prust (of all people) to Dubi to Girarid was even better..Aw hell, everybody did their job...
Hospo
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:28 am EST
RF4L -- not even talking production with Gabby. Just seemed to me when he had a chance to win back a puck there wasn't the all-out, Game 7 desperation you would expect. Nitpicking a bit, but when the Rangers were trapped in their zone, or had a chance to get the puck out, desperation is what was needed. Didn't see it w/ Gabby. Let's hope he breaks out against Washington.
Zebop
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:20 am EST
I think a huge part of Gabby's problem this series was that there was a guy on Defense for Ottawa that was just as fast if not faster than him. One time I thought Gabby would take off and be clear and there was Karlsonn getting back and facing him up. That kid is amazing and going to be a great dman in this league for some time. His skating and stick handling are incredible.
KIS
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:17 am EST
wouldn't it be weird if the Rangers win and the Devils win and we play in the conference finals like 94. It would be as yogi bera would say, Deja vu all over again.
KIS
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:16 am EST
Hats off to Torts for his handling of Kreider. What a boost to a kid's confidence when your coach sends you out at key moments in the third period of game 7. Loved it.
VtRanger
Fri Apr 27 2012 9:12 am EST
Didn't come on last night because I had to finish my serving of crow. Man was I happy last night. As much as I love soccer and as much as I like the Giants, I LOVE the NY. Rngers. This team and organization is just such a part of my life. Amazing to see Kreider out there in the last minute of the gaem but boy does that kid have some skills vision and smarts. Could it be that the Rangers got a gem. Stepan really impoved as the series went on. Both kids have formed a great line with Callahan. I thought Staal looked more like his old self than at any time this year. I need a cigar and a couple drinks before the next round. Great to be a Ranger fan
KIS
Fri Apr 27 2012 8:57 am EST
Zebop: Just as the Rangers keyed on Karlson, so did the Sens on Gabbie, I think....
RF4L
Fri Apr 27 2012 8:20 am EST
Hats off to Staal. What a monster Game 6 and 7 he played after obviously struggling coming back midseason. And just in time, too, since Bick plays only about 5 minutes each game. May not have beat the Sens without Staal's re-emergence. ... just me, or did Gaborik seems a step off last night? There were a lot of instances where I didn't see a second effort, where he had a chance to compete for a puck and just didn't do it. He played 18 mins but I thought it was a quiet 18.
Zebop
Fri Apr 27 2012 8:05 am EST
ESPN series preview: http://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7860409/new-york-rangers-versus-washington-capitals
JFC31
Fri Apr 27 2012 7:58 am EST
gene: Kreider will be better than Nash? Mmmm....that's quite the proclamation!
RF4L
Fri Apr 27 2012 7:57 am EST
Some reactions to the some posts: Gudbranson, was, as TD cites, was the 3rd overall pick by FLA in 2010 (the same year the Rangers took McIlrath 10th overall). That fall he got sent back to Kingston (to play with now ex-Ranger prospect Ethan Werek) but played this year with the Panthers as a 19 year old. Because of being in FLA I didn't see him play much, but did see some of the Devil/Panther games and came away very impressed. He's gonna be one helluva defenseman, that's for sure. He reminds me a little of Staal, but with more nastiness. Kreider is indeed impressive - totally cool to see him progress even in 4 games. As york cites, he needs to time under the Tortorella school of style and he won't be firing blind passes through the middle and he'll start actually throwing body checks - lots of opportunities to do so last night and instead, he stick checks. No need to drive the opponent into the next county, but use that physical strength and size to an advantage kid. Staal was the best Ranger d-man in this series - what a relief and no doubt much to OV's dismay!!! Regarding that proposed Nash deal: It was my understanding it was Miller, Dubi, this year's first and either MDZ or McDonagh that would have done it - when Sather insisted Erixon over the latter choice, it fell apart. My understanding is Kreider was never in play.
RF4L
Fri Apr 27 2012 7:48 am EST
Rhet/OLA -- good news about Zucarello....I'm guessing he's still in good shape aerobically, since there's no reason not to skate hard every day with a busted wrist. As soon as he's ready to go, I'd put him on the 4th line and use him on the 1st PP unit. We absolutely need to get the PP working
JFC31
Fri Apr 27 2012 7:20 am EST
And by the way, as this team develops, Kreider alone has the potential to be every bit as good, if not better than Nash.After this playoff run, I do not see a boatload of our young core being shipped out for Nash. A nasty fourth line center who can win faceoffs would be nice.
gene_carr
Fri Apr 27 2012 7:13 am EST
One can only imagine, but this Fasath(sp.) kid in Sweeden has speed comparable to Haglen and Kreider. It does appear that the core for a long term competitive team is being constructed.
gene_carr
Fri Apr 27 2012 7:13 am EST
Phew!!!
Zebop
Fri Apr 27 2012 7:11 am EST
And that Nash deal would have been horrible. Stall, Kreider, McD etc LMAO yeah they can keep Nash
York18
Fri Apr 27 2012 7:09 am EST
Kreider is a beast, the size and speed on that kid is just crazy but what's better is he can handle the puck at that speed. What's scary is not what this team is doing now, or this year, or this season, but the future. This team is so young it's scary. All anyone said this season was how young the sens were and they were building etc. well we are a year younger in team average than they are and no one seems to even consider that in the media. In like three years this team is going to be really scary IMO I think right now we have a legit shot at going to the cup, we get by the Hunter/Caps and I think we go to the finals and we did well against the WC teams this year, but to think we could actually look at this team and know that we will be contending every year. Never thought I would say this but hats off to Sather for taking his head out of his ass and building a team with kids and Torts for adjusting his system actually making a 180 and playing like it's not the 80's. Though I wonder if Slats had any influence into Torts' new system in terms of moving like 5 men units. The Oil were huge on that back in the day, they just had sick talent and could score at will. Hell the Habs used to play the same trap system the Devs of the 90's played but scored like beasts and made it look fun.
York18
Fri Apr 27 2012 6:59 am EST
Trade it's funny that you said that about Kreider. I wasn't so mad that he put the puck in the middle it was that he did it without really looking and there was no one there. He should have stayed along the boards and protected the puck to kill the clock off. He's young and in reality he's an offensive minded player and those kind of decisions change with a little more seasoning. There is no way that puck should have went anywhere but towards the net not that horrible pass to no one he made.
York18
Fri Apr 27 2012 6:50 am EST
jnyr - and the pining over NOT moving KREIDER for NASH! Hospo - that GUDBRANSON kid was like third-overall several years ago. The Panthers brought him almost immediately into the league, which is why he's kind of floundered. But he looks pretty good now...josh29 - I don't know dude...if you ask anyone in the Vancouver region, they'll probably tell you LUONGO is an escaped goat. They're probably also wishing they had a larger Caribbean culture there so that the escaped goat would...well...disappear...doct - I think MITCHELL is the first to grab pine if BOYLE comes back...I don't think that's going to happen for game one, but it's something we could probably look forward to next week. And what if Boyler and ZUCCARELLO come back? Do you sit RUPP? I sure do...Imagine a fourth line of the midget, the giant and ANISIMOV...wow. That spells depth in a way the Rangers haven't had all season long.
tdchi
Fri Apr 27 2012 6:41 am EST
One other thing: Did anyone else notice the Rangers were CONSTANTLY getting thrown out of the faceoff circle? I was getting pissed about it until I realized that every time the center got pitched, the guy coming in would win the faceoff. Not sure if it was a strategy or just jitters by the Rangers...but is sure seemed to work. Over 50 percent...not bad.
tdchi
Fri Apr 27 2012 6:28 am EST
WOW..On the edge of my seat from the first goal on...my whole neighborhood and the one several blocks over probably thought there was a domestic going down and I was pleasantly surprised the police didn't show up...but an all-around great game to watch...awesome finish...The one change I would make is that I'd let fourth line skate a few more shifts than they did...One of two predictions that I totally biffed on this year was BICKEL..the kid actually had a great first period, and I never realized he actually has a decent shot from the point. I know the speed is a little much for him right now, but the kid has held his own...The other thing I was dead-wrong about was KREIDER...I knew the kid was good...I knew the kid had NHL written all over him...but figured he'd need a little seasoning in the 'A' first...Well, I'm glad to be wrong about both...Kreider was, by far, the best forward on the ice last night. EVERY TIME that kid hit the ice, something happened. His speed adds a degree a versatility that really dials up how tough the Rangers are to play...No way he sits anywhere except first or second line for the rest of the series...Getting BOYLE or ZUCCARELLO back would make this team something special, not that it isn't already...On the CAPS...Make no mistake, this is going to be a tough series. HOLTBY is on fire. The Bruins threw everything at him but the kitchen sink and he stood tall. Not to mention...the run-and-gun defense of the BOUDREAU days is over...HUNTER is playing a real tight defensive game that's hard to crack. In fact, it sometimes reminds me of the game the Rangers play..guys like ALZNER and SCHULTZ are really shining for them...Even CARLSON and GREEN are playing team defense, which is strange...The MO for them seems to be to play the same stifling game the Rangers do, then bank on the PP with OVECHKIN, SEMIN and BACKSTROM to bail them out...Strangely enough, I think they're going to be a less-physical team than Ottawa was.
tdchi
Fri Apr 27 2012 5:24 am EST
I take it the Stepan trade rumors can come to a halt
jnyr
Fri Apr 27 2012 4:51 am EST
jnyr- I have definitely not lost any respect of Neil. From my point of view, its basically a fact that WITHOUT Neil and even Konopka, we sweep Ottawa. That conclusion can't of course be generally applied, like you will never get swept if you have Chris Neil on your team. In many games he is worthless. But, IN THIS SERIES, he got them going and was a factor for sure. NOW TO MY POINT, hockey is about winnning. What Neil did, gave his team a better chance of winning. This is not a Colby Armstrong or someone jumping into someone's head in a meaningless game in later December, this is a player helping his team to win a hockey game.
Ola
Fri Apr 27 2012 3:44 am EST
My season ticket is up in the blues......when I exit MSG.....I take back stairs to Mezzinine, then come back into the seating of the arena and walk all the way down to the glass......it avoids the crowds. After game 5 the bldg was practically empty when I walked down to the bottom and Ottawa was still on the ice hugging and celebrating. Then they formed a tight huddle and started jumping up and down. To then the seroes was over, and my thought was it ain't over yet. Another side note...for as big apiece of sh*t Chris Neil is, he was the second man in the handshake line and no Senators ducked out.
jnyr
Fri Apr 27 2012 12:30 am EST
The real questions is: Do we win this series without the performance of Marc Staal? I'm not just talking about the goal in game 7 either, obviously. He's looking like the old Staal now and makes we wish we had a healthy Sauer, yet again.
RDW
Fri Apr 27 2012 12:13 am EST
JFC- I've heard G3 against Washington. I am not sure if he instantly would be put into the lineup (especially not into a "winning" lineup, if that's what we got after G1-2), but he would certainly be value to have around "when" someone goes down.
Ola
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:39 pm EST
So Fatso gets another series. With him and Bryzalov, there should be lots of goals.
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:29 pm EST
Good bye Cats...looks like Brodeur gets one more spin at teh Wheel of Fortune....too bad!
MelvilleFred
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:29 pm EST
Looks like we got a Patrick Division love fest.....so close for the panthers.....i like their up tempo game,,,,,fun to watch
TradeStar28
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:21 pm EST
That sucks...Was looking forward to rooting for the Panthers....but at least now I won;t waste one second watching the series...hate both ...couldn't care less who wins or loses..
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:19 pm EST
BTW... that Hernique kid is impressive. Screw the Debs!
Z
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:17 pm EST
Debs vs. Flyers.
Z
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:12 pm EST
Who the hell is this Gudbranson guy on FLA? neen watching him for a few games...impressed...but never heard of him....Hope the Kitties can get one somehow
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:58 pm EST
Can't believe they didn't rip my heart out....2-1 though it was the perfect set-up! Great team effort and Kreider is starting to make a difference as is Haglin....home game and the King was the King and the Rangers played Rangers Hockey. Bring on the Craps and go Cats!
MelvilleFred
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:52 pm EST
Seriously, monster game again by Marc STaal... he and Lundqvist get my co-MVP of the series... anybody notice that Dubinsky limped off and never returned? looked to me like he hurt his ankle/foot... Hats off to the SENS... solid team... what i was suprised is how cordial the handshakes were at the end, including Neal.... it was great to MDZ blast Neal into the boards about 1 minute into the game... MDZ is a tough SOB!
schneidw
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:49 pm EST
FIRE TORTS!
schneidw
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:44 pm EST
Woohooo...great game by the rags tonight. What a great young defense that is forming here right before our eyes. Still have the likes of Erixon and Mcilrath in the system and Sauerkraut recovering. Kreider has been very impressive the last two games for a kid that can't even legally drink yet. I had to drink an entire six pack to calm the nerves. We all bleed blue... Let's Go Rangers!!!!
NCRanger
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:40 pm EST
Please let it rain rats in Florida and send the Debbies packing
TradeStar28
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:31 pm EST
DCI: Washington pushed back hard on Boston. They are not going to wilt in my opinion.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:28 pm EST
Maybe it's age, maybe it's Xanax but this game didn't wreck my nerves. The NYR won. As i thought they would. As they should at a game 7 in the building that they fought their asses to get. On to Washington who while I think the NYR match better against, is no slouch either. So game by game... Win Saturday and go from there. But I think that the NYR if they are on, will come out ahead. But nothing is given at this point. Washington is a game team.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:08 pm EST
Boston lost to Wash but beat the shit outta them. We come in physical like we can they won't survive another series!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:07 pm EST
Playing Saturday at 3....mmm, methinks driven not by a conspiracy against the Rangers or a Canadian led effort to keep Canadian teams going. Noooo - it's Buttphuck clinging to his skewed vision of a lucrative American TV contract.....
RF4L
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:06 pm EST
Great win by the Rangers!!!!! Now on to round two... Man Saturday afternoon game is rough. LGR!!!!!
NYStranger
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:04 pm EST
Holy frig! The Cats just tied their game 7 with the Debs. WoW! Could we be looking at a second round with no Pens, no Debs? Come on Cats! Send Uncle Daddy hom to his nieces and nephews!
Z
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:01 pm EST
CHIN - Damn, you lucky clueless jackass to be at the game!.....Bummer, I hate Saturday afternoon games...Now it wil be the OV hype (and I like OV, but not for this series, I want him dead!)vs The KIng...The freaking Devils/Cats bettr be playing Sturday or something is fishy...not that we need any convincing
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:01 pm EST
Wow... all I can say is WoW! Unbelievable to see the Rangers hold on to win in a game that I think everyone was a little concerned about. Way to go Rangers! It almost gave me a stroke, but it was all well worth it to see how we closed this game out. Not letting Anderson off the ice at the end just makes you step back and give credit to the will.., the will that this team has made us all believe in this year. Next up... the Caps - who play more of a similar style to us then they ever had in the past. Dale Hunter has them fired up. We need to impose our game on them and make them open up. We do, and their D is suspect and I think we can give this kid Holtby something to worry about. LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!!!!!
Z
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:53 pm EST
JFC - Just so you know Jesus H Kreider is mine. haha I love this team and CK brings a Hagelin+ dimension! Great stuff
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:52 pm EST
Nice.. I am enjoying this one tonight and on to the next round and an excellent opportunity to get back at the Craps...... I am having the same thoughts about MZA.. 5 weeks tomorrow since the injury .. he could help the PP
sjw
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:44 pm EST
Just back from an insane Garden. Best it's been in a long time. Too worn out to say much. KREIDER was a beast. STAAL was a beast. HANK was a beast. Another great pass by STEPAN. CALLY leading by example. HAGS making plays all over. Amazing.
chinstrap
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:43 pm EST
Per Elliote Friedman of HNIC: Game 1 Saturday at 3:00 (https://twitter.com/?tw_e=details&tw_i=195699876565221377&tw_p=tweetembed#!/FriedgeHNIC/statuses/195699876565221377)
STPB
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:43 pm EST
Before game 6, my son buried a Craig Anderson hockey card in our ice cube bin in our freezer. He just replaced it with a picture of Holtby.....every bit helps.
RinkRat
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:40 pm EST
RF4L: I'm thinking Columbus is regretting not asking for something more reasonable at the deadline for Nash. After watching Kreider tonight I'm wondering if he should have been here this year.
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:35 pm EST
JFC31.... He has his cast off and it's rumored he should be back this series... I have no problems sitting Mitchell :)
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:33 pm EST
HHH: Re Cherry: So obvious he was cognizant of showing his support for Ottawa (cuz in the past, when the Leafs/Sens rivallry meant something, his biased towards TO was obvious and induced tons of complaints) and his heart is in Boston, meaning he has a deep seeded dislike of the Rangers. Then again, his adoration of Konopka in his coach's corner segment made me guzzle a beer and open a fresh one - in 1 minute....
RF4L
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:31 pm EST
hospo,,well spelled my friend! lol
pa.rangersfan
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:30 pm EST
Anyone know if Zuccarello is close to returning? Our PP needs help and it seemed to be working well with him out there. We won't be able to pull this off with the PP performing like it did in this series.
JFC31
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:29 pm EST
Per Andrew Gross Tweets....‏ Never mind this postseason, Torts says he's "licking his chops" at thought of Kreider and Hagelin developing together... Torts: "That was a hard series against a very good team. Both teams went toe to toe." ...Marian Gaborik on MSG crowd: "It was unbelievable from the first minute to the last minute. It was pushing us forward." ...Torts says Rangers should be happy and proud "for about an hour" because the Capitals series is starting real soon. ...JIM CERNY Tweets... Chris Kreider: "I'm at a loss for words...at the end there you could feel the full affect of the crowd...it was pretty awesome" ...Torts on Game 7: "this was a tremendous experience...it bodes well for our young guys..." ...Torts: "Sometimes the first round is the hardest round...this was a hard series against a very good team" ....Henrik Lundqvist admits "I might have screamed a little bit there at the end...it was just so exciting...this series was so much fun"
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:27 pm EST
RF4L -- agreed....Stall looks to be getting it running on all cylqnders at an ideal time....and Jesus H. Kreider....WOW!!!
JFC31
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:25 pm EST
12 more wins to go
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:25 pm EST
Cherry is going senile, a couple games ago he kept calling Anderson Davidson. He stuck up for Crosby. The CBC is looking to cut costs and his $ 800,000 would be my first cut. That is 16 FT jobs. Bring on the Craps and Ochoken
HamiltonHellhounds
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:24 pm EST
YESSSSS! Another great win! Still shaking my head over that penalty call on Zo.....what a load of crap that was! Ya tend to forget just how intense it is to watch a RAngers PO game like this one....when the Rangers couldn't get it our of their own end in the 3rd and then Anisimov had a clear chance to get it out and didn't....well the TV was in grace danger and I almost had a stroke! Caps are gonna be tough but their goaltending is suspect and we just beat a team that had a goalie who played superbly. This kind of series can propel a team on up the ladder....fingers crossed!!!
JFC31
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:21 pm EST
LOL...that latter comment was about Kreider...time for more beerschhh!
RF4L
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:20 pm EST
ooh....another very strong game by Staal - he has been, IMO, the best Ranger D overall this series and has gotten better and better as the series went on. His sudden rediscovery of his game cannot be under-estimated in terms of impact; it's like adding before the series started a proven bluechip player. And wow, if we didn't understand before, the last 2 games sure shows why Sather was unwilling to include him in any deal for Nash....
RF4L
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:17 pm EST
hospo,,well spelled my friend! lol
pa.rangersfan
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:17 pm EST
OMG, what a game....what a totally NYR circa 2011/12 game. Congrats to the team. Love this wall (went thru all the game's comments and you guys had me LOL many times). Clueless jackasses unit!!! LOLOLOL....
RF4L
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:16 pm EST
STPB - Staal had a great series... Ireally hope TORTS gives Bickel a bit more time at the beginning of the Cap series...gotta give the top 4 a little breather...Actaully, I'm betting we might se EMMINGER instead of BICKEL...we'll see..
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:14 pm EST
pa.rangersfan - C'mon, you should be numb to it already, I am! :)
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:14 pm EST
Gotta say that Staal, besides scoring the goal, had one helluva game. His game has been back the last few games and I feel that he is going to be key against the Crapitals. With young guys like Kreider, I have a tendency to step back a little and not get too excited, just in case there is a letdown....but WOW! How can you possibly NOT get excited thinking of the possibilities with this kid?
STPB
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:13 pm EST
Bet you that EJ Hradek is bummed out. The Rangers are still alive.
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:13 pm EST
Is DOn Cherry relevant for anytbody other then knuckle dragging Canadian homers? SCREW CHERRY...The Better team does not lose the last two games of a series...Whaat a freaking numb nutz tool.....
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:12 pm EST
I know I occasionally rag on "The Swede" for some of his in-comprehensible posts but; keep those predictions coming Ola! Hospo; even in victory the abuse of the key-board goes without comparison! Congrats to our guys and ALL of us tools on this Wall who live and die with this Club. As the legendary Situation once proclaimed: ROUND TWO!!!!!!!
pa.rangersfan
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:12 pm EST
Earlier today, Don Cherry called Roberto Luongo "an escape goat". Proving, yet again, HE IS AN IDIOT.
josh29
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:11 pm EST
Kreider = awesome.....wowsers! .......Just out of curiousity, question for the hockey playing or hockey coaching Wallsters......Kreider threw a blind pass in front of the net with around 30 seconds left....He was skating through the hashmarks.....Was he supposed to protect the puck better and bring it towards the goal line? That shit scared me
TradeStar28
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:10 pm EST
doct - RUPP!!!..or MItchell...no problem there....But seriously, the Caps don't have a single goon to wory about..They all play hard, but that;s it...
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:09 pm EST
BOB: What Cherry doesn't realize is that there are a lot of teams felt that way after losing to them this year. Most of them are golfing right now...
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:08 pm EST
Don Cherry says the Rangers were lucky and that the better team lost. Sucks for you Donnie.................all the Canada-based clubs are out again.
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:04 pm EST
Kreider almost made Stepan and Cally look fast tonight, they must've been caught in his slip stream :)
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:03 pm EST
So much for posting with the blackberry! Such a joy to watch this team. Two more weeks of torture. No reason they shouldn't beat the Craps. This is shaping us nice for us.
Fotiu22
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:03 pm EST
HOSPO---I saw that you clueless jackass. This next series will be a heart attack-filled run of one goal games too. I believe that they can get to the finals too. Unfortunatley, Newark is ahead now. I think the Flyers whip either of these teams and they will get one more shot at us. We have kicked their arses all year.......and will have to do it one more time.
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:02 pm EST
Yeah Baby! Congratulations to the NY Rangers & Congrats to all the Wallsters! thank you Kara ........ :->)
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:02 pm EST
What I love about Hank is your really get the feeling that he loves the fans and wants to win more than anything. Not that others don't but he's not shy about it.
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:02 pm EST
was nice to see stepan, cally and kreider out the last shit. and they did a nice job keeping the puck against the end boards and in the offensive zone for 36 sec. smar thockey. kreider for real.nice line created . who sits if boyle comes back ??
doct
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:58 pm EST
JustmyopinionbutkKreiderwasthebestRangerontheicetonight.RootingfortheDebbies....theywillgivetheFlyersabetterseriesthanthepanthers.Stallwasabeasttonight.
Fotiu22
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:58 pm EST
DCI Golfer- I care about them once they reach the AHL or NHL..so yeah, I cae about him a little...Hey, never waned to trae him....and knew he would be playing in the POs way back....just so many other guys to rag on...:)
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:57 pm EST
Great win for the boys! Awesome to share it this year with the Wall.....LGR!
TradeStar28
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:56 pm EST
Holy Crap! Thank God I doubled up on my Lipitor and Atenolol! Congrats Rangers and Walllsters..Beat tthem without Gaborik and against the Refs and the NHL....Despite my weak spine on game day, I think I GUARANTEED BOB this team would make it to the Eastern Finals...Well, I;ll go ione step further...this team maes it to the Cup finals...I honstly feel they will beat anybody that is left in the East.....GAVVY was not soft all year but he had crappy series....he will get better..and hopefull y the Ranhgers have learned a few things....KREIDER??/ WEhat the fuck can you say!!!....Two great scoring plays...opportunistic...GREAT passes by DUBU and Stepan........I almost kicked mu dog through the window on the 3rd period PP...Bring on the Caps babt!
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:52 pm EST
Just ... whew! Great game; we played well; Ottawa fought ... great tough win!
Nick
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:49 pm EST
KREIDER=IMPRESSIVE. HOSPO - still a prospect you don't care about?? if we get Boyle & MZA back next series how's our depth (still a little weak, but better) Slats blew it at the deadline j/k who gives a fack onto round 2!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:46 pm EST
Congrats to OLA predicting Girardi as the GWG getter!
ColoradoMark
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:46 pm EST
Well, they took it to the very end and pulled through. Very cool seeing Kreider our there at the end. The kid is a stud.
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:44 pm EST
RDW - I like that, they just had 3 days off. Let's carry this emotion through to game 1
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:44 pm EST
Who the heck was it that said Girardi was gonna get the game winner ?.................YES BYE !
Newfie_Ranger
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:43 pm EST
How do you spell relief? R-A-N-G-E-R-S-W-I-N!!!!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:42 pm EST
one day not game
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:42 pm EST
Jesus, one game off before the next game?
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:42 pm EST
No to gripe after the win, but couldn't the Hagelin penalty been called a goal?
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:40 pm EST
It was gut check time and the boys got it done... Kreider was easily one of the best forwards on the ice... that and we may get MZA and hopefully Boyle back in this upcoming series... Washington I believe on Saturday... should be as tough as this series... Great Win!!!
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:38 pm EST
God damn this team bends but never breaks....
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:38 pm EST
I really love this fucking scrappy team!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:36 pm EST
Good christ!! I've been in a meeting all game, checking texts and GameCast, and my stomach has been in fricking KNOTS. I just want to scream out LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!!!!
Rexi29
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:35 pm EST
Perfect timing just finishing my 12th beer!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:35 pm EST
Other than being pinnned twice the Rangers dominated that game!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:34 pm EST
LET THE CELEBRATION BEGIN!
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:34 pm EST
GOT R DONE
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:34 pm EST
BRING ON THE CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nyfans
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:34 pm EST
YES
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:33 pm EST
Is Kreider out there for this faceoff? love it!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:32 pm EST
SPEED KILLS!!!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:32 pm EST
Speed Kills!!!
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:32 pm EST
HAGGY
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:30 pm EST
This prevent defense is nerve racking
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:30 pm EST
WOW - we cannot allow them to pin us like a BDSM submissive! Clear the zone and make them go the length. And someone take Neil's head off and take out that waterbug Karlsson
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:28 pm EST
I have to change my shorts now
nyfans
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:18 pm EST
The league amends the rules for the 3rd period....elbows to the face of a Ranger player are legal.
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:18 pm EST
PUT STEPAN HAGELIN AND KREIDER TOGETHER
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:17 pm EST
mdz looks like a high schooler out there. rangers may us only 4 d . they'll be tired . better get another goal soon.
doct
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:15 pm EST
rangers pin them deep for a full shift and the first comment is how Cowan missed an outlet for Alfredsson. FUCK YOU!!!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:13 pm EST
Kreider is flying!!
NV94
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:11 pm EST
Kreider is so fast it is just eye-popping. His closure rate is intimidating.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:09 pm EST
This PP needs a leader. I though it would be Richards but the bottom line is nobody out there looks like they're fired up or confident to be up a man. Good PP players are hungry when they get out there.
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:08 pm EST
If Dubi could have buried that....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:08 pm EST
Power Play is beyond awful. My blood pressure just broke my cuff!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:08 pm EST
The worst PP I have ever seen.....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:08 pm EST
That PP hit a new low.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:01 pm EST
One period of hockey we must dominate.....
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:01 pm EST
One period of hockey we must dominate.....
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:01 pm EST
Call the cops...someone stole Gaborik's scoring ability
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:00 pm EST
Kreider just referred to as "world class" and "fastest player in the league"
nyfans
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:58 pm EST
That start to the PP was a disgrace to all PPs. WTF was that? It was like it had been so long since they've had a man advantage that it threw them off. Weird.
FerociousMonk94
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:57 pm EST
We need another goal early.
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:56 pm EST
Staal has been solid as well. Good to see him rounding back into form. It was a tough way to start the year for him.
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:55 pm EST
10 beers deep of my 12 pack. I may have to switch to the hard stuff soon! PP sucks. Gabby is not anticipating the play like he normally does he is chasing the puck instead of moving to where it is being moved to. KREIDER - WOW. That is all. Me likey ALLLLLLOOOOTTTT. We need to press for the next goal right from the opening face off. Let's go Rangers!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:54 pm EST
Are you kidding me? I shat myself twice already
NV94
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:53 pm EST
Haven't really been able to calm down since the game started...This is a blast but extremely stressful....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:51 pm EST
I just took a handful of Tums and washed them down with Malox. Buckle up for a bumpy ride. White knuckler ahead. Does anybody else have the runs?
LetsGoRangers
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:50 pm EST
NYFANS... Sure, after they almost completely ignored him in his first two games... I guess if you're not a Rookie Senator, you don't exist;.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:48 pm EST
Agreed our forwards are not doing their job on the Sens D in our zone....Let's get that next goal and check these clowns into the ice....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:47 pm EST
Announcers suck, but they are giving a lot of love to Kreider.
nyfans
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:47 pm EST
On the bright side, Richards 8 of 11 on faceoffs tonight.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:47 pm EST
It's not hard to marginalize Gaborik! He's Soft!
LetsGoRangers
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:46 pm EST
I don't know what I'm thinking, us scoring PP goals two nights in a row seems like a pipe dream... need to put KREIDER in front of the net... we need to keep up the pressure in the 3rd... if not for the BS call we'd be up 2-0.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:46 pm EST
Chris Neil must have a godfather that works for the NHL because he gets treated that way by the officials!
LetsGoRangers
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:45 pm EST
Ottawa is doing a great job marginalizing Gaborik. Someone else on the line needs to step up and be a threat.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:44 pm EST
Ranger fowards giving way too much of a cushion to Ottawa defensemen at points.
LetsGoRangers
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:42 pm EST
Gaborik is soft!
LetsGoRangers
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:42 pm EST
Is Gabby playing tonight??
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:41 pm EST
Agreed Gaborik just can't get anything going.....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:39 pm EST
F'ing finally... We needs to make them pay!!! Kreider is flying.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:38 pm EST
2 periods of playoff hockey and 0 penalties on the SEns BShit
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:36 pm EST
Gaborik really needs to do something... just something.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:36 pm EST
Directive handed down from Buttman unless the Sens shoot someone, chop them down with an axe or run them over with a car, or at the very least the zamboni there will be no penalties called.
York18
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:31 pm EST
Are they ever going to call a penalty on Neil?
LetsGoRangers
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:30 pm EST
Was a horrible call...Don't think Hank saw that shot at all....He didn't move....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:28 pm EST
Can't blame Del Zotto, he got clipped in the face by NEIL... These announcers do a great job, I close my eyes and think I'm listening to the Ottawa Senators broadcast crew.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:26 pm EST
Refs get them back in it....F'ing bullshit....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:23 pm EST
GIRRRRRRRRARRRRRRDIIIIIIII
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:22 pm EST
Girardi! He hit the barn!
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:22 pm EST
Girardi scorrreees ...2-0
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:22 pm EST
WOOT,..Danny G making up for the empty netter
DOUBLEN
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:19 pm EST
The last 4 goals we've scored have been on Andersons stick side
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:18 pm EST
Gonchar scares me more than Karlsson with his shots from the blue line. He has a lot of goals and assists from that area.
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:16 pm EST
I have found myself yelling "how the fuck is that NOT interference" about 5 times already!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:14 pm EST
Kreider playing like he has been in the NHL for 10 years. Unreal.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:13 pm EST
STAAAALLLL!!!!! Yeah ba by... Good play by Stepan again... Let's Go Rangers!!!! We're Gonna win
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:12 pm EST
Hagelin was tackled!
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:12 pm EST
How much did that STEPAN pass remind you of Richards... he's another guy seeing the ice very well lately.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:11 pm EST
Staal!!! He deserves that....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:10 pm EST
SCOREEEEEEE....1-0
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:10 pm EST
STAAL;S BALLS
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:10 pm EST
Girardi shanking that puck from the point reminded me of exactly why i don't want to see him on the PP... he should've skated the puck in and wristed it when the defender came to him... hope he doesn't live to regret it... McDonagh and Staal have been the best defenders by far in this series... too bad they can't play together.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:01 pm EST
NYR came out strong in the 1st. I think that they pushed the pace. Ottawa looked like they were being taken off of their game. They didn't expect the NYR to use stretch passes and charge the middle. Sketchy call from mid-ice on a sold fall. NYR were backed in pretty good after that penalty. The NYR kept backing up until Ottawa was pinning the puck and the NYR were gassing. Period end came at a good time. The NYR need to regroup and regain the momentum.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:57 pm EST
we came out strong, spent too much time in our own zone toward the end there.friggin nerve racking, Let's pot some goals here in the second...Let's Go Rangers !!!!!
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:56 pm EST
PJ... Agreed and I think we'll see that in the 2nd period... we're already ahead of Saturday, we didn't give up a goal this time on the BS penalty call.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:55 pm EST
Very good period. Shit call on Dubi (what else is new!) Cally and Gabby got caught staying out waaaaay too long on their last shift. Keep the pressure on the D they are coughing it up like a 2 pack a day smoker with a head cold. Let's go Rangers!!
DCIGolfer
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:55 pm EST
Girardi can't hit the broad side of a barn!
LetsGoRangers
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:54 pm EST
what you just posted at 6:46 was the same thing you posted at 4:54... I was beginning to think you were a bot :)
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:54 pm EST
Still need to be better to win....The first goal gets bigger with every passing minute....Girardi needs to pick it up in this game....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:51 pm EST
Rhetoric what are you talking about?
ref24
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:49 pm EST
PJ... The end of the period (the last minute) was ugly, but we were not outplayed.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:48 pm EST
ref24... why do you keep posting the same thing?
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:46 pm EST
WTF....Wake up...Can't get pinned in like that....Hope the Rangers have another gear because they need to get to it quick....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:46 pm EST
That last minute of the period sucked... Very nerve wracking.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:46 pm EST
I've been a RANGER fan since 74. Im not confident as us long term fans know. If they lose that means summer just starts sooner. That being said LET'S GO RANGERS
ref24
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:46 pm EST
I'm waiting for the make-up call.....I won't hold my breath.
RDW
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:43 pm EST
good pk
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:41 pm EST
The Refs suck... another lousy call in the first period.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:40 pm EST
What a joke...Called from center ice....BS
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:36 pm EST
They are getting close..Need to crowd the crease.
DOUBLEN
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:36 pm EST
This is killing me....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:25 pm EST
Love the way Kreider is seeing the ice right now.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:24 pm EST
We're gonna win...Let's go Rangers !!!!!
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:21 pm EST
NN Girardi choked
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:20 pm EST
Do they ever score when there is a empty net.
DOUBLEN
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:00 pm EST
HOSPO, I think it will be RUPP ! 50 years old and still so freakin pumped up for this game. Why did I sell my tickets?
Pal17
Thu Apr 26 2012 5:58 pm EST
OK...the beer IV has been started...Starting out with some 10.5 percent alcohol 'Terrible' this evening and will be shifting into no less than 10 red-white-and-blue PBR tall boys...hopefully around the time that my stomach bile creeps back down into my stomach. Arm and foot restraints have been secured and the packed bong is within arms reach...Now I'm ready for it...Shine on us tonight, O' hockey gods...give us the strength to pull this off...and above all...LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
tdchi
Thu Apr 26 2012 5:56 pm EST
game time,,,,,,,lets be smart,,,work had and hit the net with shots,,,get the puck quickly out of our end and we will win,,,,lEtS Go rAnGeRs
thedugster
Thu Apr 26 2012 5:55 pm EST
LET'S DO THIS.....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 5:55 pm EST
Gilroy is a much better player than Carkner, so that is good for Ottawa. Let's go Rangers!!!
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 5:48 pm EST
heave ho
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 5:40 pm EST
Looks like Gilroy will be playing in place of Carkner... big whoop... Hospo... I don't understand how if your critical about the team, it makes you a doom and gloomer... this team has it's flaws... I will not drink Ranger Kool Aid to think "everything's fine, just look at our record"...being critical about the team doesn't cause them to lose and it doesn't mean you don't root like hell for them to win come game time... That being said... I FULLY EXPECT TO WIN TONIGHT.... we are the better team, we only need to go out on the ice and act like it... GO HARD OR GO HOME.... Let's Go Rangers!
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 5:33 pm EST
mf lube up, get rid of the jitters.......
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 5:15 pm EST
KIS or anyone else in the city: Are you going to Molly Wees tonight? ..... Another oprtion is Lincoln Park, 9th Ave, West side of the street, btwn 57th & 56th....... Damn these pre-game jitters are a creapin up..... Lets Go Rangers !! Yeah baby
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 5:03 pm EST
RF4L: I also think that the way the NYR thrashed the Islanders and Caps in the first two rounds was confidence building. I didn't know what to expect going into 94. Keenan was good but they completely (deliberately) shit the bed in 93. We lost Gartner and brought in Larmer. Beezer was dumped. The team was in such a state of flux, I was pretty negative going in to the season. But by November it was obvious that the NYR were something special. They didn't win the hard way like this NYR does. They were smashing teams. They were the number 1 pp and the number 1 PK.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 4:54 pm EST
I've been a RANGER fan since 74. Im not confident as us long term fans know. If they lose that means summer just starts sooner. That being said LET'S GO RANGERS
ref24
Thu Apr 26 2012 4:53 pm EST
E: A big difference between now and the 94 run was that I expected them to win and I was confident they would win. That confidence started for me that summer, when Keenan was hired. That team was good and there was question it was better than most, if not all, other teams. This team, despite the record, not quite so much. Still it's fun and of course, I'd rather have this than most of what we've had since that 94 win.
RF4L
Thu Apr 26 2012 4:43 pm EST
If you haven't seen this before have fun with it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c_fwDDFm84g LET'S GO RANGERS!
Hell
Thu Apr 26 2012 4:42 pm EST
BOB: the Cubsesque comraderie that united NYR fans pre 1994 was a little special. Nowadays it's fans that have been brought up in the shadow of that moment and so they don't understand futility at least to pre 94 standards. But right now we are in a NYR renaissance. The things that the fans screamed for years are happening. The only thing missing now is postseason legacy. Not some 1 and done but a sustained run that while painful if lost will also create an enthusiasm that the NYR have arrived on the contender landscape. And when you get there you are giving yourself a shot every season. But all this is BS musing. It requires that first step: tonight!!! If you don't love this upcoming game, turn in your NYR fan card at the door.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 4:19 pm EST
Come out flying and dominate..... LETS GO RANGERS! ......We all celebrate later tonight....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 3:58 pm EST
I'm already miserable and the game is two hours away. The life of a Ranger fan. Potvin Sucks!
Fotiu22
Thu Apr 26 2012 3:49 pm EST
Like Bob I'm an oldtimer who has had his heart broken so many times that you try to steel yourself for the worst. Decided to come to the site to get uplifted by the "No way we lose tonight!" posts. Kind of land in that "I honestly don't know" group. But, I do know that this year's team will give it all they've got, which should be enough tonight.... Somehow I get this strange feeling that this might be a Ranger blowout?! Go Rangers!
Ranger47
Thu Apr 26 2012 3:31 pm EST
I am old enough that I am more excited than nervous. However, after the many, many times I have watched this franchise choke over the many years..............I am also numb a bit. 1994 removed the visceral stuff, as they finally won after all thse years of pain and suffering. This team is easier to pull for, with all the home grown guys and it has been so long since they were really relevant in the league that it would be good for them to get past one round.
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 3:17 pm EST
Nick - Coming into the POs I thought this team had a shot to win a few rounds but,today, that old doom and gloomer in me is rearing it's ugly head and I have little faith..Keeping the fingers crossed..
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 2:53 pm EST
E, tdchi: Well said. On to tonight! As we get to late afternoon I feel those nerves coming on even at my age. You know when your team has a real shot it's more nerve-wracking than say, the last few years, when although massively better than the dark ages of 1997-2005, we really had little shot at the Cup. But this year is different ...
Nick
Thu Apr 26 2012 2:25 pm EST
All that said, though - I really have no feel 1 way or another. Like dugster, I'm quite jittery about it! LOL...this is different from previous recent POs where the Rangers were in lower 4 in the east PO pool. Back then they weren't favoured and in some, clearly overmatched because of their offensive challenges (that's putting it nicely, too - lol). This time, however, the Rangers are the favourites - they're supposed to win this series (and in fact, it was supposed to be over by now). Different feeling, added pressure....
RF4L
Thu Apr 26 2012 2:20 pm EST
Some may find this interesting: A few minutes ago, my 22 year old, who this season has become a big Ranger fan (good year to start following them, isn't it? LOL), asked me the same question he asked before game 5: "Who do you think's gonna win tonight Dad?". My answer was as before game 5: "I honestly don't know. The Rangers have played well at times, but so have the Sens and worse, they've done so more often than the Rangers overall." He pressed me today like he did before game 5: "Come on Dad, you gotta say the Rangers - they have Cally and Lundqvist." Ever the realistic I reminded him that the Rangers lost game 5. His burgeoning Ranger passion, if not naivete, shone through: "Not this time!" he countered. I mumbled something like 'aahh, the optimism of youth - you're a 1 year in fan for crying out loud!' ;^). Then I added this, though: "The Rangers, however, didn't get to first in the east, second in the NHL by choking in many important games, did they?" He replied: "Damn right!!!!" LOL....
RF4L
Thu Apr 26 2012 2:17 pm EST
HELLO fellow RANGER fans.... BIG GAME 7... havent posted in a looong time but i still lurk.. i'll be be my usual sec315 row H ..IF ANYONE WANTS TO SAY HELLO...i'm good friends with DAN O'HALLARAN glad he's doing the game...i'll probably meet up with him before the game...KIS MOLLY WEE good choice been there many times ...MELVILLE going to the game ?....RANGERS NEED A FAST START.. its all going to come down to LUNDQVIST.. HE'S OUR BEST PLAYER AND HAS TO STEAL THIS GAME... if he wants to be considered one of the best now is the time to prove it... TORTS WAS right when he said you are defined by the playoffs... and HANK has a losing record in the PO......SO HE NEEDS TO WIN THIS GAME...lets see if he can....unless the NYR lose 1-0 in OT ITS ON LUNDQVIST.....I'LL BE WEARING MY #7 HERITAGE JERSEY.....LETS GO RANGERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NYR7
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:54 pm EST
Well boyos, Mitchell or RUPP is gonna do it tonight .......on a deflection off a Del Zotto shot...!!
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:46 pm EST
Nervous,,,,,,,,,,very,,,,,,,excited... a ton,,,,,,a win tonight....priceless...LeTs gO RaNgEr!!!!!!!!!
thedugster
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:45 pm EST
I never thought I would say it, but it's a HUGE bonus if KONOPKA is out. Absolutely huge. Not because he's a worthless cheapshoting, trash-talking scum-sucking douchebag, but because he's so good in the faceoff circle. CARKNER is a non-issue. That said, the Ottawa Citizen is reporting both will be in the lineup today...As for Tim THOMAS...nice gesture by him...and it's a shame he had to force his politics into hockey. The guy's stock was about as high as it could go before that incident, and then he basically fed his team into a meat grinder of partisan politics...worse yet, he put himself before his team, and that's simply not forgivable in my book. Also, he really didn't have a great playoffs. Last year, he was the soul of the team. This year, he was playing second fiddle to a roster that couldn't find a conductor. And thus why the Bruins took a quick bow....On RICHARDS - that's nice he and the team are comfortable, but that's exactly what worries me: They're comfortable. If they come out flat or turn flat at any point over the next 60 minutes of their season, it's gonna be another late April stroll along the links...COME ON BOYS!!! LET'S MAKE IT TO JUNE!!!
tdchi
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:44 pm EST
You have to think Messier is chomping at the bit to play in this game...
jkropp
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:43 pm EST
Man... going out of my head. This game should be one for the ages. We finish this series like we started and we'll be in good shape. LET'S GO RANGERS!
Z
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:42 pm EST
STILL can't belive that the NHL said he didn't touch the puck with his skake even though the puck moved faster after he F3CKING KICKED IT!
jkropp
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:36 pm EST
hank as well as the team will have an "Us vs The world" feeling since that goal, the lack of call on the Neil stick in the side, the lack of suspension or even hearing on both Neil and for the Kick. Add to that the 3 game MAJOR suspension for the playoffs and a first time offender of Hagelin. They will want to prove that they can beat the world, and are mad that the world is trying to stop them.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:11 pm EST
I don't think either team is afraid just very anxious. I can see Richards having a big game. He is doing his leading already with the words he is saying. Hope hank is zoned in. Still have to watch Neil and his cheap shit. If as a player you can't get up for a game like this you shouldn't play. I can't wait. Losing my mind. I'd love to be in the garden. Hell I should have just gone to Molly Wees. Lets go Rangers. If the rangers get through anybody up for watching games at a Pub in NYC. Molly Wees or anyplace else???
KIS
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:08 pm EST
Let's go Rangers! Get it done tonight.
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:05 pm EST
Tonight, he breaks out: MARIAN GABORIK
jkropp
Thu Apr 26 2012 1:00 pm EST
Much has been made of the Senators beating the Rangers at MSG with regularity. I remember the regular season losses being yawners, with no energy from the Rangers.The playoff losses were disappointing, but the unfortunate kick in by Del Zotto and a great goaltending perfomance the Rangers would be preparing for Washington already. I think the Rangers have played with energy at the garden and I can't imagine they will come out flat. And if the game starts with a bad bounce they have been pretty resiliant (mostly) when the game means something.
ColoradoMark
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:53 pm EST
PJ: I am thrilled. I even an telecommuting today. That is to say, I am home doing nothing in preparation for this. I just couldn't be functional at the office today. I am loving this.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:52 pm EST
NICK: I have trouble forgiving Thomas for snubbing the WH on a time honored tradition and being vocal about it. And that is regardless of political ideology. JMO. Not to drive down that street again, but Thomas has handled several other events in his career with absolute grace and character. Last night he was tremendous. And that is undeniable. And that is why I still love to show kids hockey. The intensity of competition offset by the ultimate form of sportsmanship.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:51 pm EST
E....Hell I am nervous already and will just be watching...Actually it may be tougher on the fans....But how sweet it will be to win and move on to the next round.....
PJ
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:47 pm EST
Intimidated? No!!! Ecstatic? Yes!!! If a player is intimidated to play in a game 7 of a series at home then I have no use for them. Jitters? OK. Put a garbage can in front of them in the locker room to puke in. Once that first shift hits then it is just a hockey game. I am sure that there is going to be nervousness, this iteration of the NYR has been in some big games this season and they have risen to the occasion. What price are they willing to pay for greatness? To win the first game-7 in MSG in 17 years. That is a shot to stamp your name into NYR folklore. The first step to becoming a "NYR." At least that is how I see it. If not? join the endless wall of shame that is NYR failures.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:45 pm EST
Hospo, all: I truly like Tim Thomas as an athlete, on several levels. He lost with class; agreed. The other issues bug the hell out of me and that's who I am; can't help it; he has a right to express but he's full of shit and he had no business 'blending the worlds.' That said, it's all I'll say. Not that anyone cares! My attention is all focused on tonight, and I'm glad that if we see the Flyers it won't be until Round Three. I don't hate the Caps; I do strongly dislike the orange-and-black. And Ed Snider. Ed Freaking Snider. And 'Bob' Clarke, that lemon-sucker. Ugh.
Nick
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:41 pm EST
Wild - Glad to help. Google, boxscores, and via http://getthemrated.com/game-officials/referees/. Maybe with these 2 vets, it'll be a good clean game.
josh29
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:35 pm EST
josh29: Thanks for grabbing that info. (where did you get it BTW?) I guess its a good thing, I don't remember either of those games thinking the Rangers were screwed, OR the Sens being screwed by the refs. And with big games under his belt at least one should not be intimidated by the game, and just call it. And that is how I like it, good or bad, call it by the rules, not the game.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:34 pm EST
Hosp - Carkner seems to find lanes for passes, suprisingly well against us. When Gilroy was in (Gm1, Gm3) the Rangers had some success pressuring him to cough up the puck. I think that's why the Sens were considering putting in Borowiecki. I'll take playing against a rookie - with 2 NHL games of experience - in his first NHL playoff game back there on D... Sadly, Carkner will play.
josh29
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:21 pm EST
Brad Richards on Game 7... "I'd rather be here than anywhere else...We're in our comfort zone, we've been here for two days, we practiced in our own facility yesterday. It's Madison Square Garden with our fans. I'd rather be here than anywhere else. It's comfortable. It doesn't mean we're going to win. But it's still your building where you've played all year to have a chance to be in front of your fans (in Game 7)."
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:16 pm EST
It looks like KREIDER will finally see some PP time tonight... Torts like the fact that he doesn't get intimidated... Jason Spezza seems to think that the pressure is more on us than the SENS... I've never bought in to this philosophy... yes, we are the home ice team and we are ranked #1 in the conference, but so what? Pressure is on both teams... the team that wins is usually the one that doesn't let it get to them.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:15 pm EST
Konopka makes a lot of sense for them..Carkner means nothing..The Konopka's are the type of guys thatscore garbage goals to win...Hopefully DUbi or Prust for the Rangers...got get in front of Anderson..
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 12:04 pm EST
Konopka/Carkner both back in for tonight.
josh29
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:55 am EST
Both officials have worked games this series, though not with each other. Both their games were Rangers wins. If nothing else, at least we have 2 VETERAN officials to keep an eye on things. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O'Halloran called Game 1 of this series; his other playoff games: BOS/WSH Game 2, VAN/LA Game 4, STL/SJ Game 5. He's has been around for 15 years, and usually calls a clean game. He reffed Game 7 of the EC finals and Game 7 of the Cup Finals last year . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Brad Watson (#23) called Game 3 of this series (the 1-0 Rangers win). His other playoff games: PHI-PIT Game 1, DET-NSH Game 2, and CHI-PHX Game 5. Interestingly, all of these were 1-goal games.
josh29
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:52 am EST
I dont remmebr exactly when it happened but "Warren" Zenon Konopka was rattled during the game and slowly retreated to the bench but continued to play on afterwards.
PatrickDiv
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:50 am EST
SteveCT - Well, if it's a cse of what have you done for me lately..we got dominated in the FO circle again on Monday..but scored 2 PP goals! Hopefully with the last change we can do better on the FOs...and also score a PP goal
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:44 am EST
What's worse, our faceoffs or our power play?
Stevect
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:37 am EST
Surprised the Sens are sitting out Konopka becasue of his FO ability....As far as toughness from tough guys, you don't need it in a 7th game....you need team toughness...toughness from your stars and skilled players,,,..Bruins didn't dress Thrornton either..And the Rangers, if they were smart and had depth, wouldn't dress Rupp...
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:34 am EST
WILD'/RHET - Yeah, it was a softy peanlty, but a veteran like him doesn't take that chance of throwing in the extra shot..for no reason...in front of the ref..at the beginning of the game...Stupid, assinine and selfish...no other way to see it...
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:34 am EST
Here's the clip that Hospo referred to earlier about Tim Thomas....very nice thing for Thomas to do....instinctive and real. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/tim-thomas-tells-young-fan-smile-most-touching-144544738.html
JFC31
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:30 am EST
Well per NHL.com, Konopka didn't play after the 1508 mark of the 3rd and Carkner only played 2 shifts in the 3rd...he was out for the 1st shift, and not again until the last min (a 9 second shift) but I don't remember either looking like they had been hurt at any time....according to some on twitter both have skated in each and every optional skate on game day, and neither have been on the ice since game 6...so they have taken 3 days off the ice now including today...very odd.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:29 am EST
HOSPO.... I have to agree with Wild, the call on RUPP was ridiculous... Hopefully we don't see any of those type of call tonight... I have to agree with you on Thomas and the entire Bruins team for that matter (at least the ones I saw), they were very gracious, not just saying one or two words, but giving actual encouragement.... it was refreshing... think we'll get the same from the Sens :) ....WILD... What we need from Dubi is exactly what we got from him the other night... Lot's of forechecking, hitting, keeping the puck in their zone when his line is on the ice and winning those faceoffs... it's more important we get those things out of our checking line than goals (although those would be nice too)... Gabby is saying all the right things today, he just needs to put it all together on the ice tonight... The Sens haven't scored more than 2 in Regulation for the entire series, we get 3 goals and we should win the game.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:27 am EST
I cant remember, were Konapka or Carkner hurt during the game? Or did they miss ice time?
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:21 am EST
Brad Watson and Dan O'Halloran tonight per Zip...is that good or bad for a rangers home game?
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:19 am EST
Hello, everyone! I'm feeling very good about the Rangers' chances tonight....the pressure of game 6 brought out the desperation and intensity they need to win and it's going to be there again tonight. The Rangers are simply a better team than the Sens and if they keep up the iintensity, forecheck hard and keep their feet moving, they should come out on top. Of course, goaltending is always the wildcard....so they MUST ratttle Anderson by getting bodies in front, especially during the PP. Concerning Dubi....this is a kid who is not possesed with an abundance of talent.....he gets by on hard work and intensity. But, I think that being the object of trade rumors for so long basically sapped him of his confidence and has been a huge distraction that he has not been able to shake. If he can have one big game, his confidence can come back and he can be a HUGE factor in the playoffs going forward. Let's hope that big night is tonight. Still, the big boys need to be on top of their games tonight and put some pucks in the net. That will make things alot easier.
JFC31
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:19 am EST
Hearing both Carkner and Konopka may be out. Given that they sparked the team in Game 2 and have played strong afterwards, along with Konopka's 69.7% faceoff win % this series, I'm hoping they can't go tonight... or, if they do, that they're not at 100%, at least.
josh29
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:18 am EST
...and while age doesn't really matter, as you said, its funny that the NHL talking heads love to point out the AGE of the sens being young, but the Rangers are actually younger. They talk about Karlsson being young, but seem to forget he has 216 regular season games and 12 now in the playoffs, but say nothing about McDonagh With his 122 regular season games and only the same amount (11) of playoffs games. Its almost like they are trying to build a story in case the Sens make it past the Rangers, they can sell the "young team on a mission" its sickening really.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:14 am EST
Hospo: Dubi has done it more, but there are still stretches when i don't notice him...in a way that's good because it means he isn't screwing up, but he SHOULD be noticed in the offensive zone and the neutral zone, so I guess I want to see him be more consistent in all 3 zones, I don't need to see points, just see the same player shift in and shift out.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:11 am EST
Hospo: your going to blame Rupp for that 2 min? LOL you really do hate him...that call has NEVER been made EVER nor will it ever be made again...it was a bad horrible stupid call. He didn't rough anyone....I mean he barely touched him, if the refs were upset about them shoving, you nab them both and it stays 5 on 5...the refs screwed up, you can't avoid a bad call, no matter what you do. And YES I did see that Rupp played the way he plays, it NEVER CHANGES no matter how big the game is, no matter what is going on. He doesn't panic he doesn't get excited or down, he just plays. He gets the odd shift, and that 1 or 2 shifts in a period are solid, he makes few mistakes, and he uses his size, and he gets a hit if there is one he can get clean and not take a penalty. He just goes about his business like it another day at the office. That's shows in one shift, I don't need to see more than that.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:10 am EST
WILD -DUBI had been doing exactly that the last few games...Just can't score.....Either way, he is a key man tonight as the 3rd line C.....Was listening to some of the babble on the NHL tonight show about hiow young the Sens are yadda yadda..nobody mentions how young the Rangers are----McD, DZ, Staal,Bickel,Hags,Stepan,Kreider, AA...evne Cally and Dubi.....Still, age means nothing now, all about performance and execution..
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:06 am EST
E - exactly...And I know some people on here hate Tim THomas..but loved what he did at the end of the game..after losing a gut wrencher...going over to some kids in Bruins jerseys gesturing to them something along the lines of "it's only a game..keep you chins up..yadda..yadda"...and you still gotta love the NHL handshake at the end of a sereis...
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:06 am EST
Keys to the Rangers winning tonight: Play the 4th line more, forwards continue to have a smart for-check, with great back checking and a quick transition to. Forwards rush the net with quick give-and-goes, make the right tape-to-tape passes. Keep the passes accurate and simple. Get the puck in deep on every play and have a strong cycle down low. On Power Play get guys in the crease and get pucks to the net. Do these things and as Bob Marley says “Every Things is Gona be ALL-RIGHT” LETS GO RANGERS!!!! Wear the RANGERS sweater with PRIDE! Every other player in the NHL would kill to be a NY RANGER. As RANGERS fans we got your backs! Any Senator fans at MGS tonight are dead meat! Have fun! What a GREAT YEAR for the RANGERS
Jerry_Garcia
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:05 am EST
E: Agreed...there are only a couple guys who are PURE rookies, that's Hagelin and Kreider. The others may be in their first NHL playoffs, but they have been pros for at least a couple years...and of them only 3 are bigger parts of the team, McD, Stepan and MDZ ( I don't think I missed anyone else) otherwise they have had a playoff series under their belts, and can still learn of course, but it cant be the reason that they struggle. Dubi is a guy I am looking to tonight to bring more. Even if its not a goal, or points, he needs to hit more, defend harder and get the puck deep. He needs to be hard on the puck and be miserable to play against. If he cant at LEAST do that in a game 7 at home with the crowd behind him, SHIP HIM OUT!! He has been in the NHL long enough and has been in big games before, Must wins, so he should know how to do it. Add to that, he has said he wants to be a leader in the room and on the ice, regardless if he has a letter or not, so its time for him to put up or shut up.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 11:02 am EST
WILD - You're kidding, right? You saw all that out of Rupp in 2-3 shifts and 4 minutes?....All I saw was a moronic, undisciplined penalty....I'd be scared shitless about putting him on the ice...
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:46 am EST
I have just read some of these tweets fired off about Joel Ward. The anonymous ability for people to convey their racist views sucks. The people of Boston and the Bruins themselves should wildly condemn this. It's ridiculous to take the game to this level.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:43 am EST
Wonder if Joe Thornton would care to revisit his "Soft" comments from earlier this season?
PatrickDiv
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:42 am EST
word!!!!!
thedugster
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:42 am EST
LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErS LeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErSLeTs gO RaNgErS
thedugster
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:34 am EST
mf said that a good 60 minutes of hockey is all that matters. He's right. Get this done in 60. They need to come out playing like they've been playing in the past 2 games and take charge of the game. Don't leave it to overtime, when one bounce can end the series. Don't leave it in the hands of the refs, and don't leave it up to overtime. . . . . Heard Carkner is questionable for tonight, and that may sit in favor of Borowiecki or possibly Gilroy; I'd have to think that move would favor the Rangers.
josh29
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:33 am EST
WILDCARD: In SJ this years first round exit is considered completely unacceptable. And some players will pay the price for it. The NYR are not exactly in the same mode if you will, BUT the expectation should be the same in a different scale. The Sharks expect to contend year in/out. Anything less is unacceptable. When SJ walked the handshake line already there were heads on pikes. The fans of the NYR have seen this team toil in mediocrity for years as we have patiently waited for the core to mature. Now? The uphill towards perennial contention is here. And I think it is fair with this team, and it's showing this season that the expectation beyond a paltry 1-round exit is totally warranted. If the NYR are walking the handshake lines on their way to the golf course, they should be ashamed of themselves and the management should start to seriously considering the future of several NYR players. Someone should pay the price. In most cases I no longer will except the ole' 'he was too young & this was learning.' Kreider? Hagelin? Some of the 1st year guys? OK. Brandon Dubinsky? I have no issue with him hitting the road at that point. Not that I don't like him because I do, but because there has to be consequences for failure now with the NYR. If you are a contender then you must be value added, if not? See ya...
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:33 am EST
mf: I think with Rupp, we saw it in the last game. He isn't rattled, he just plays his game, I think since he has "been there done that" he can keep calmer...he talked about it once, that he needs to be the Vet the younger guys look to, like he looked to the vets when he was younger, to show them its just another game and get them to relax. I think that can be overlooked by fans. They have just a couple guys int he room who can do that with experience, Richards, Ftank, and Rupp....no one else has gone as far as they have...granted 10 total players have played in a game 7, and the ones that were with NY against the caps, they know the pain of loosing, and don't want to feel it again.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:33 am EST
mf: I think with Rupp, we saw it in the last game. He isn't rattled, he just plays his game, I think since he has "been there done that" he can keep calmer...he talked about it once, that he needs to be the Vet the younger guys look to, like he looked to the vets when he was younger, to show them its just another game and get them to relax. I think that can be overlooked by fans. They have just a couple guys int he room who can do that with experience, Richards, Ftank, and Rupp....no one else has gone as far as they have...granted 10 total players have played in a game 7, and the ones that were with NY against the caps, they know the pain of loosing, and don't want to feel it again.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:28 am EST
Boyle present should serve as a motivational reminder even if he doesnt suit up.... We need a strong game all around.... When Rupp was signed they promoted his playoff experience, so heres hoping he's a real positive voice in the locker room as well as on the ice.... The table is set for us to win tonight; we just gotta win....
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:17 am EST
Boyle on a stationary bike this AM...could still be a long time before he can play...but that's a very good sign.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:14 am EST
E: Agree, while a couple players can learn from a big game loss, the team as a whole can not. They need to bring it to the next level. If they end up in the ECF and loose to a team like the Flyers...well, there is nothing for the players to learn from that, it just means the other teams was a little better this time. Loosing int he first round has never been something that I or any other Rangers fan I know of would have been OK with even before the season started...HELL before BRich signed it was 2nd round or failure, so with a loss tonight I cant think of anyone that would be "OK" I imagine its the feeling in Detroit, Boston, Vancouver, Chicago, and San Jose...the only cities that might be somewhat OK with a loss is Pittsburgh...they had a tough opponent, so some there may be OK with the fact they didn't have a big advantage to begin with, and both FLA and NJD may be OK with loosing since they struggled at times this year...probably more disappointment in NJ since the Panthers are just not a powerhouse at any position....and for Florida, they are happy for playoffs again...so no one will be upset with them for not doing great. But again, the Rangers need to be one of the last 4 teams left in the POs this year for it to be considered even just good.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:12 am EST
Be interesting to see how the zebras call tonights game. Only 4 penalties called in Caps/Bruins however 3 of them came in the 3rd and one of those with just over two minutes to go against the Caps.
Fotiu22
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:05 am EST
E--I am with you. No such thing as moral victories and no excuses tonight. It took them until the second period of game 6 to raise their level. It needs to be raised further tonight or they will be done. With Boston and Pittsburgh out, there is no excuse for them to not get to the conference finals at the least. A loss tonight would be a choke and a huge letdown. Time to come out fast, hard and get a couple early on.
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 10:03 am EST
We can win tonight: Home ice advantage, an extra day to heal (Cally, Prust, whoevers bruised) & for our war-horses Girardi / McDonaugh to rest up a bit...... Obviously tonights 60 minutes of hockey is all that matters..... When the boyz play the clamp down physical game "&" also control the neutral zone, we win.... Most recent supporting scenario I can recall was the play that lead up to Krieders gwg Monday night..... We're on the attack, ottawa clears their zone, the puck never gets to the centerline and a Ranger (forget who) sends it right back in along our left wing side. That was the genesis of the goal..... So again, if we play our game & control the neutral zone, Ottawa is goona be feeling miserable..... And that my friends is the feeling they can take back home...... Lets Go Rangers!!
mf
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:58 am EST
E - Well put, the better team wins the game and the series..That should be the Rangers IF they play their game and don't get hemmed in....We'll see...But damn, if the EAST isn't so wide open...even more then expected..
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:52 am EST
I suppose I can add little to the dialogue but reinforce that the whole reason you bust your ass to get the high seed is so you play these game-7's on home ice. If that isn't enough to put this Ottawa team away, then there should be no sour grapes because this team isn't good enough nor is it ready to be in the trench fight of the 2nd round. Personally, I believe that they are and hopefully they close this one out. A loss to me is no longer a "learning experience" for a young team. Save that for the E. Conference finals. I'll give some credence then. To go out tonight can be considered nothing less then a choke job and for a team that everyone thought was "close," that was just an illusion. At that point we have to begin arguing what the next move is. But tonight is EXACTLY the type of game I expect the NYR to bring something more then they have thus far this series.
E
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:47 am EST
Newfie - Warmups started at 10:30. Boyle is not on the ice, per Steve Zipay.
josh29
Thu Apr 26 2012 9:26 am EST
Big night tonight. Hope we can break this home ice disadvantage.
Bob
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:55 am EST
What is the status of Boyle for tonight ?...........Let's Go RANGERS !.....................
Newfie_Ranger
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:40 am EST
For the CAPS it was Holtby, Hnedricks, KNUBLE and Ward.....unsung heroes all....Who will be the Rangers unsung heroe tonight?..DUBI? To a man, they have to play a msart but physical and and aggressively forechcking game and get a bad goal..or two...You know that's what Ottawa will be shooting.for...We'll see...
Hospo
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:25 am EST
Doh! Yea....the other Neil! I agree.....the Sens put two guys in front of Hank on their power plays...we need to do the same. Of course we need to make sure we aren't getting any cheap goalie interference calls either.
Fotiu22
Thu Apr 26 2012 8:04 am EST
Fotiu22 - The Caps putting out James Neal? Against the Rangers? Man, the NHL train would have SERIOUSLY gone off the tracks if that were the case ;)...seriously though, as much as I want to see Neil broken and bleeding on the ice, I'd much rather see him dejectedly staring into openness with a five-zip scoreboard, the celebrating Rangers and an ecstatic Garden crowd in the background. If RUPP can convince Neil to tango, then that's a must-do. But you know that little weasel is going to turtle against a larger opponent and try to draw a penalty. This team needs to play him hard, but they can't get distracted from the task at hand, which is to crash ANDERSON early, get in his head and the pepper him with as many shots as they can muster during the first two periods. And to add to this no-brainer, they've also gotta stay out of the box.
tdchi
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:59 am EST
Thinking about the next game is far too presumptuous for my blood and at this point, given all that's happened in the series, I'm gonna er on the side of humble, lest the hockey gods blame me of any sort of hubris...I can say about the Caps...they're a FAR different team than they were during the regular season...the defense has suddenly tightened up to the point where it's nearly stifling and they're playing a grinding style that's oddly reminiscent of the Rangers...Only they have OVECHKIN and BACKSTROM, who are two aces in the hole that allow them to dial up the tempo at will. Not to mention HOLTBY, who is playing otherworldly right now. I know a lot of people are afraid of the Flyers...well...I'm afraid of the Caps. There was lots of fan talk about the Bruins lack of offense. Well, I didn't necessarily see that. They threw everything but the kitchen sink at Holtby and he saved it all...where they were particularly prone was on the powerplay...just absolutely dreadful. And I think everyone knows where I'm going with that...TONIGHT: It's a matter of who wants it more and which goaltender can stand on his head. I worry a bit about the three-day interval since the last game, since the Rangers usually used that time to prepare for coming out flat in the first. That, right there, is a sure-fire way to hit the links tomorrow. Please Rangers...DO NOT give Canada a reason to jeer on Friday. Please keep the NHL relevant for the east coast. BRING HOME THE DUBYA!!!
tdchi
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:48 am EST
If you want to see the basis for the bias against the Rangers you have to look at Synder and Dolan. Synder's Comcast just bought NBC, they are now the biggest financial influence in the league. No other entity is close. Dolan's Cablevision's network is large and could conceivably be an object of a merger in order to create an even bigger empire.I do not believe you can underestimate the greed or hubris of these gazillionaires. While this is all conjecture and arguably not fan talk, there are some extemely strange decisions coming down from above and there are not many "aboves" higher than Synder and his conflict of interest Flyers.
gene_carr
Thu Apr 26 2012 7:26 am EST
Hoping the Caps start Neal on the opening faceoff tonight and Torts puts Rupp out and tells him to drop the gloves. Want that toothless bastard off the ice and if he takes Rupp with him....jackpot.
Fotiu22
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:41 am EST
only one thing to say.....git r done.........
stevielegs
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:12 am EST
And after last night the last 7 or 8 game 7s have been won by the team that scores first
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 6:10 am EST
Ola: and let's hope it comes during a first period goal outburst!!
Wildcard
Thu Apr 26 2012 5:57 am EST
My pick for the GW is Dan Girardi.
Ola
Thu Apr 26 2012 4:47 am EST
Exciting times!!! Is it to much to wish for that we will score early tonight? If we do, I think we just will take off.
Ola
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:54 pm EST
************************* LET'S GO RANGERS ************************
mf
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:10 pm EST
When teams gear up for post-seaon games, every series is usually tough. Home teams now 17-29! 'Just get in' is right. The league takes some heat that 'everyone makes the playoffs' but 16 out of 30 isn't everyone ... you still gotta be pretty good. And given the non-home advantage, the Cup is like climbing Everest.
Nick
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:50 pm EST
Watched most of the Boston - Caps series. The Bruins definitely didn't play their physical smash-mouth game this series. They let the Caps dictate play and honestly, the Caps answered with a bit of a physical -hustle game themselves. Telling is that Ovi only had like 15min. tonight. The coach was leaning on crashers like Knuble and Ward - beating the Bruins with their 3rd and 4th lines. The Bruins really didn't establish any offense either - and you have to credit the Caps there as well. They've tightened up defensively and when there are their trademark breakdowns, this Holtby kid gave them confidence. Semin, god forbid, has actually been all over the place and probably their most consistent player. The thing you have to worry about is their talent and if you open up, they can bury it on you. They have actually been scoring by crashing the net more than anything... but they haven't been scoring a lot either. It will be a series... LET'S GO RANGERS!
Z
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:48 pm EST
Another road team victory. Let's hope that stops tomorrow.
Bob
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:48 pm EST
Another road team victory. Let's hope that stops tomorrow.
Bob
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:46 pm EST
I suppose that Hunter has done a good job. But..............he has turned Ovechkin into an expensive Chris Neil. The Rangers would not make it easy, but I would not expect them to lose to the Crapitals. The Senators are a much bigger threat to us.
Bob
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:45 pm EST
Timmy is now riding the bad-70s-mustache-Boston-cab straight to Peggy's shack. Also nice to see Knuble play a big role -- the guy's at the end and was scratched dozens of times this year. Always liked him.
Nick
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:43 pm EST
I want Florida to take Uncle Daddy's fat ass out. Screw Newark. Give us a shot at the Theodore/Clemmensen combo.
Bob
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:42 pm EST
Just worrying about our game tomorrow....If Caps beat Bruins they are certainly doing something right....Let's just get through this series....Getting nervous for the game already....
PJ
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:41 pm EST
That Thomas mustache was bad. He deserved to lose for that reason alone. Also, always good to see that Andre the Gialnt lookalike Chara out.
Bob
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:39 pm EST
I like this kid Holtby ... gotta hand it to him ... but if we win tomorrow night we gotta beat him. Anyway he's made a deserved splash with this performance and no one will slam him when we prevail. And then ... dare I hope for Fla. or Newark?
Nick
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:38 pm EST
Suck it, Timmy!
Nick
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:30 pm EST
Well gang.........the road is paved for us to get to the finals. All we need to do is win tomorrow night. The 2 teams that can beat us are now gonzo. Hope we do not choke.
Bob
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:26 pm EST
Well... if we get the win tomorrow we get our chance at sweet revenge. WOW! I live up here in Beantown. Nobody is going to speak of the Bruins again until next season. No more black and gold - it will all turn to Celtics green and Red Sox red. Crazy... LET'S GO RANGERS!
Z
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:25 pm EST
Great play by Knuble setting up Ward... Bruins, Canucks and Penguins ALL OUT.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:24 pm EST
CAPS WIN IN OT!!!!
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:20 pm EST
Washington and Boston tied at 1-1, going to OT for all the marbles... Josh29... Glad to heat you got credit for your intellectual property... it's bad enough Larry Brooks steals from us :) ...PS... You should re-do the Rockettes and add Michalek and Karlsson.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 25 2012 8:05 pm EST
Since i have a Tissot Titanium watch..., put me at teh front of the line Mr CEO!
schneidw
Wed Apr 25 2012 7:17 pm EST
Word is Henrik was more pissed (pun intended ) because kneel was spearing him in the groin
stevielegs
Wed Apr 25 2012 6:40 pm EST
On a team that's loaded with good size and plenty of guys that are willing to fight, Henrik Lundqvist is the least likely to fight. And his face is a national treasure in three countries, so fighting him might actually be illegal. - The Bleacher Report
E
Wed Apr 25 2012 4:54 pm EST
Tiss-Off!!
NYStranger
Wed Apr 25 2012 3:42 pm EST
Ok ok...which wall member works for Tissot?
RDW
Wed Apr 25 2012 3:30 pm EST
Z - If one of us wins tickets, all will be forgiven :)
josh29
Wed Apr 25 2012 3:23 pm EST
Nice plug ...
Zebop
Wed Apr 25 2012 3:05 pm EST
Okay - all good now. Thanks again Rhet -- looks like my pic was copied/saved/emailed/forwarded and nobody knew where it came from. Thanks for the heads up!
josh29
Wed Apr 25 2012 2:41 pm EST
Rhet - Thanks. The best part -- someone stole my pic and retweeted it to get credit for it. From now on - i'm watermarking everything. Dammit.
josh29
Wed Apr 25 2012 2:10 pm EST
... and then the refs will give all the other Rangers on the ice 3rd man in and secondary altercation penalties and we'll end up playing with 3 forwards and 2 d the rest of the game.
Zebop
Wed Apr 25 2012 1:36 pm EST
Hospo, I would love to see Scott do that during warmups. Blast one into the net and just start a huge brawl with Ottawa. Let Scott and Bickle fight this way the rest of the team is available for the game.
KIS
Wed Apr 25 2012 1:29 pm EST
JOSH29... it looks like one of your photoshops went viral a bit... http://www.nyrangersblog.com/2012-articles/april/new-fifa12-cover.html ...E... Lundqvist is hands down the leader amongst the Goalies nominated... IMO, his stats are better overall than Quick or Rinne... If he loses, I will blame it all on a Bettman smear campaign, whether rational or not :)
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 25 2012 1:08 pm EST
Here is a video of Erik Karlsson kicking Brandon Prust... It looks like he kicks Prust in the skate... http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2012/04/25/watch-erik-karlsson-kicks-brandon-prust-during-game-six/ ...FOTIU.... Very funny... and Graves was made out to be the biggest goon in NHL history... TD... No panick, Cally played with it the other night... worst thing that happens is he has two fingers taped together and loses a tad bit of mobility on the stick handling... uncomfortable, but not a game changer... when looking at his hand on Saturday, to me (with my years of experience as an armchair MD) it looked like a broken knuckle... which is even less of a deal... Rupp played earlier in the season with a broken finger, now it's just Cally's turn :)
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 25 2012 1:06 pm EST
Damn, BOB, the memory is failing...That's the one I meant --Flyers-Habs (Hospodar-Lemieux)...Here it is....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xyCMyGIPVY....too funny
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 1:03 pm EST
How about the Flyers-Habs when the idiot Lemieux insisted on shooting a puck into the other net at the end of warmups? Chico Resch was involved in that one. If Scott got something going, he would prove his worth for this season. Up to now, the dude has been worthless.
Bob
Wed Apr 25 2012 12:52 pm EST
BOB - Remember the Hospodar (flyers) - Lemieux (Nordiques pre game brawl?? I could live with another like that with Scott starting all the shit!
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 12:30 pm EST
HOSPO - Hope so! WILDCARD - Yeah...KREIDER'S deal is with the Rangers only...no deal with the Whale.
Dineen11
Wed Apr 25 2012 12:20 pm EST
Scott should dress for warmups and goad Neil into an altercation. He could play the role of Tim "Dr. Hook" McCracken, Elmore Tuttle, Clarence Swamptown or Ogie Oglethorpe.
Bob
Wed Apr 25 2012 12:16 pm EST
And so I asked someone, and they responded... the AHL teams can only add guys on ATOs, and Kreider signed an NHL contract....so he is not eligible.
Wildcard
Wed Apr 25 2012 12:16 pm EST
DIMEEN11 - well, to make you feel better, the All-American line of Krieder-Stepan-Cally will just have to bring the Rangers into June and the Cup finals!
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 12:07 pm EST
Dineen11: I saw the same thing...but the part of the reason is that he was not on the Whale clear day roster...but NO player in NCAA or Junior was, Is it because he is playing in the NHL?
Wildcard
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:52 am EST
So I just learned that KREIDER is not eligible to join the Whale if tbe Rangers season ends first. Bummer.
Dineen11
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:50 am EST
TDCHI -Got that exaggeration machine revving I see....Who was jumping off a bridge about Cally?...Just me, but I only saw people talking about a possible injury and how it might impact his play......but, to each their own...
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:43 am EST
Via Carp: "UPDATE, 12:23 p.m.: Callahan was at the training center today. John Tortorella said he had the day off for maintenance and will participate in tomorrow’s skate prior to Game 7." Now step back from the bridge...
tdchi
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:41 am EST
Jeeze...it's Wednesday...why's everyone freaking out about Callahan? The guy took his lumps and I'm sure they're holding him out as a precaution. If your hand is already bruised, is it better to risk taking another freak shot off of it in practice or rest it for a few days so that you're healthy on Thursday? Think logically guys..The dude is tough. He'll be fine and ready to go Thursday...Nick - If it were one play, maybe I'd agree with you. This has been a whole series. And you're right...it's the same way all over the league...the complaining wouldn't be as bad if the NHL simply decided a path to take...either screw'em and let the guys kill each other or pansify the sport and take all the dirty shit out. They've made a precedent for keeping the rough play in the playoffs...Fine. Allow all that BS that happened at the end of the game. Allow the NEIL hit...but then don't penalize Rupper for jousting with a known pugilist and sure as hell don't chuck HAGELIN for three games on an accidental hit. This series would be over were it not for Hages' suspension.
tdchi
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:29 am EST
schneidw: i don't think it will hurt him much...how many goals did he score by getting a long distance hard shot away? Not many right, he just chips pucks in, and I bet he could with a broken finger. Also, it may be painful but his style involves using his entire upper body to hit and grind for pucks, so he may not be able to do some things, but his job on that line with two other skill guys will be to be a physical presence, not a passer or shooter.
Wildcard
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:26 am EST
Wait.....didn't Mario play playoff hockey after Graves broke his wrist, spleen, kidney, nose and femur with the worst slash known to man? I am sure Cally will be fine.
Fotiu22
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:24 am EST
Schneidw - not good or optimum, but he will be in no matter what..and I guess his job will switch to hitting, forechecking and clearing space for Krieider and Steppan..
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:21 am EST
NICK - AH, but the whine tastes good......besides it's way past talkign ab out line changes...Dubi.....Rupp or ay other shit......As for fights and revenge, you are right, I don't want either....I jsut wanted Karlsson hurt and out becasue he's the best player on the team..,,Liek I said Yesterday, play Ranger hockey, no fights, and just be done with the Sens....Although I don't have much fiath in that!...You're the optimist...:)
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:18 am EST
CALLAHAN- Bad News... For him to be missing practice.. he must have a broken finger... hard to play NHL playoff hockey w one hand...I am sure he will play.. but can he be effective?
schneidw
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:13 am EST
supposedly the Vezina was already voted on after the regular season.........maybe that football coach that was paying bounties for injuring opponents , can advise the NYR. Plus he might have tapped the communication on the headsets........put a bug in the sens-less room,.........
stevielegs
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:12 am EST
So let's see what will the NHL and officials fuck up for next game, for starters, (a) Too many men on the ice called by linesman but overruled by referee. (b) Iceing when player dogs it to touch up after going over goal line. (c) Late hit knee on knee nobody was watching the play but ref 3 feet away. (d) Game clock not same as clock players/fans play to. (e) Goal review was inconclusive (f) Avery rule. (g) Tripping called by referee at other end of the ice 200 feet away, while referee 3 feet away with head facing play and eyes on play makes no call (h) War room reviewpersone who mays decisions on calls in Toronto has a relative playing on one of the team in the playoffs (i) Referee’s decide to swallow the whistle with 10 minutes to go in the game, let the players decide who wins (j) Referee calls a BS penalty to make up for prior BS call. And the list goes on! NHL number 5 and counting!
Jerry_Garcia
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:11 am EST
When is the Vezina voted on by the GMs? I assume it's before the playoffs start, like most "major" sports do their awards voting. I think Quick wins anyway, not because I think he should, but because said GMs are voting, and it's another chance for other teams and the incompetent people who run them to stick it to Dolan, Sather and the Rangers. I have no doubt that biases come into play in a vote like that.
Zebop
Wed Apr 25 2012 11:11 am EST
There's enough whine here these days to drown Ernest and Julio Gallo. Go around other teams sites and it's like an echo. The NHL sucks, the league hates us, Shanahan is an asshole, etc., etc. And the truth is that the league doesn't see a problem and does play favorites among stars. Nothing's gonna change until that does and I'm not expecting it soon if ever. Christ if that Neil goal had cost us the cops would be fishing suicides out of the Hudson. My novel idea is for the NYR to score some fucking goals against a team they should have eliminated two games ago. Screw fights and revenge and Neil and Karlsson and fuckall. Win the damn game.
Nick
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:55 am EST
LUONGO should be easy to move, only has, waht, 10 years left on his contract? :)..Somebody will take him though
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:55 am EST
Rhet0ric: I don't think that Lundqvist's comments should hurt. I think he was angry as players get. I think that the NYR as a whole are getting bent over the inability of the league to keep the game clean and consistent. There isn't a conspiracy against the NYR but there is unmitigated incompetence and the NYR have fallen on the wrong side of it once too many. It is beginning to cause the players to come unglued a little. The coach has also become unglued. Lundqvist has never talked like he did after the last game in his entire NHL career and so that gives you an idea of the temperature in the locker room. They feel as if they are fighting the Senators, the refs, and the league. If it weren't so incompetent it would be a conspiracy. Lundqvist was venting his frustrations for the first time in his life. If that alone was to remove you from contention for a trophy you have far and away deserved, then that is just the cherry on top of a shit shake.
E
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:52 am EST
BTW - Sounds like Vancouver is going to hit the detonate button much like Philly did last summer...Word on the street is that both LUONGO and KESLER are on their way out. I would sure love to get the latter on this club...
tdchi
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:50 am EST
When taking MICHALEK'S kick into consideration, it's appropriate to review Shanahan's ruling on SKINNER last season. Allow me to quote some of the text: "Regardless of whether skinner felt he need to protect himself or separate himself from an opponent any intentional or reckless use of a skate blade in this manners is exterminate dangerous and unacceptable." Shanahan went on to mention that Skinner has(had) a clean record and that the player he kicked(NICHOL of St. Louis) was not injured...Weeeeell then...Let's look at the Girardi case. Michalek made contact with a kicking motion(at the same time NEIL was also kicking BTW)..he ADMITTED to deliberately kicking to 'free himself from the pile' and when he made contact with Girardi's leg the first time(yes, he connected several times), he clearly knew it was another player...presumably not his teammate...and continued to kick...How does it not get more clear cut than that? Like really...if you're going to throw another player out for two games for the SAME kicking motion, then you've got to ban Michalek from the final game of the series...BUT...that would take away Ottawa's top player and COULD effect the outcome of the series(of course, the same could be said for leaving him in the game)...Here's the bottom line IMO: I agree with Brooks' assessment of there not being a conspiracy against the Rangers. But there DOES seem to be a deliberate ignorance to calls and assessments that ultimately hurt the franchise in its ability to win. I think part of that is because the Rangers call a spade a spade...part of it certainly has to do with the NHL's general dislike of the franchise dating back to the control over the team website...but above all, they know that the Rangers, no matter how bad or good they are, will ALWAYS DRAW FANS. They could penalize, kick, prod, demean or otherwise defame the team and we'd still show up to the games and tune in for the broadcasts. Now look at the other teams facing the prospect of going to the cup. The only other large market teams are the Bruins, Kings(who are all but irrelevant in LA) and Flyers. All the others are small markets with tenuous holds on their fan bases. And that's why Buttman wants the Sens to win. I bet he'd cream his pants for a Sens-Nashville final...North meets south...or a Coyotes-Panthers final(sunbelt final). But something like the Rangers-Blues or Rangers LA simply doesn't appeal to the higherups in the league. And until it does, we can expect them to continue ruling for the so-called little guys.
tdchi
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:46 am EST
ZEBOP... I have no thunder to steal, but than you.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:46 am EST
Lol Is Hospo short for hostile?......Talk his knee out?....ROTFLMAO.........Way to go,,,,,,,LeTs gO RaNgErS
thedugster
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:45 am EST
Zebop - No arguement...except for you saying 4th..I think 7th or 8th is more like it..behind soccer, golf, tiddly winks.,....Still, Hockey is known for it's zealot fans and writers who love the game....And these people are just too afraid (as you say, lackeys) or biased to speak up..Either way, it sucks...and bingo about Brooks...
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:45 am EST
Zebop... I believe we are now number 5 in the US.... right after NASCAR.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:45 am EST
Rhet -- didn't mean to steal your thunder. Missed that yesterday. It's another great view of it, and further underscores the head-scratching decisions out of the NHL's office. It's like a parody how they attempt to justify it.
Zebop
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:41 am EST
Hospo, the fascination with today's NBA and its pack of whining stars is beyond me, but the fact is and will always be -- and I know you know this -- that the NHL is fourth in line as far as the major sports go, and thus the media coverage or lack thereof follows that status. And combine that with the media lackeys, most of whom are in Canada, who simply toe the NHL's line and act as a mouthpiece for the league, and you get little to no outrage over these decisions. Brooks, to his credit, is one of the few -- Stu Hackel on SI.com is another -- who is not afraid to say the NHL is back-asswards with some of the stuff it does.
Zebop
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:40 am EST
Does anyone think Lundvist's comments will affect the outcome of the Vezina trophy? ...HOSPO... When they showed a closeup of his hand during game 6 it looked to me that he had a broken knuckle... I'm hoping it's that instead of the finger... but knowing Cally, it wont slow him down either way... WILD... I could agree with you if the guy had both of his feet in front of Girard, but you look at the replay and you can clearly see him bring a leg over to go at Girardi... that goes from being panic to intent to injure... Zebop... I posted this yesterday, it shows Michalek kicking in slo-mo... http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/rangers/video-shows-ottawa-senators-milan-michalek-kick-ny-rangers-defenseman-dan-girardi-game-6-article-1.1066791
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:30 am EST
WORLD PEACE gets 7 games for elbowing and the NBA media is screaming about it being too lenieint....Carkner trys to Murder Boyle (1 game)...Weber trys to splatter Zetts head (zero)...Neal..with a flying shot to the head (zero) ...and ..Neil wiht a charging intenet to injure on Boyle (zero)..and nobody says a word....One of the reason why nobody watches the NHL compared to the NBA..and I always thought the NBA was the thug league.....If no Rangers, sure am hoping fopr a FLA-NASH/PHX finals...
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:21 am EST
Bob: In defense...I see guys feet kicking around a lit of times, they just miss everyone. So it IS something that goes on, but again, its why weather or not it is on purpose it needs to be handled...at least fine the guy so if he continues to make that "mistake" he will start to pay for it with games off.
Wildcard
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:20 am EST
At practice this morning according to Gross...."Boyle not skating.......also..CALLAHAN (middle finger) ...not skating"...No way he doesn't play, but he got hit at the end of the game and an injury/broken bone is not out off th question.....Sucks...First shift of the game, somebody should go after Kalrsson's knees....
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:10 am EST
And on the kick....those scrums happen all the time, every game, and nobody gets kicked. Only in this twisted world of NHL discipline could this be ignored by the league.
Bob
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:08 am EST
Michalek sucks. Glad he will be in and not someone who might actually have an affect on the outcome. Reading Brooks today and adding up the total of the idiotic decisions made by the NHL during this series, and it sure looks like they would all be glad for the Rangers to just go away. They already allowed Boyle to be disposed of with no suspension on the same kind of play that Hagelin got suspended for. At the end of the day, we need to win one game. The Garden will be loud, and we need to get ahead early.....ride the wave of emotion. Otherwise, the road will be bumpy.
Bob
Wed Apr 25 2012 10:03 am EST
Doe's anybody know the exact address of the NHL office on 6th Avenue in NYC? Would be interesting to see when the Buttman arrives/departs. Maybe somebody can ask the smuck when he is leaving and please take the Sananagans with him!
Jerry_Garcia
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:56 am EST
stevielegs: that's my thing...and IMHO it EASIER to control your feet than the stick. I mean, it wouldn't take a genius to NOT call a penalty or suspend a guy who was falling, or clearly accidentally hit a guy with his skate...but kicking is NEVER an accident, even if it isn't for the reason of kicking someone. That needs to be addressed, and a rule MADE to cover it.
Wildcard
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:52 am EST
if you are responsible fpr your stick, than you should definitely be responsible for your skate, intentional or not........
stevielegs
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:49 am EST
the intangible apology excuse tour to infinity and beyond........
stevielegs
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:45 am EST
Hospo: Agreed that something more should have been done...and while I think Shanny came into the job feeling like he was going to change something, one man cant do it, its going to take a new Comish, and new people from the top down who feel like things need to change. Again, I'm willing to believe that he panicked and never intended to kick anyone, and defiantly never meant to risk injuring someone like that...but it was still dangerous, and needed to be handled, so that if he did it again he would be hit harder....but its in the past now, and perhaps the fans need to spend the off season getting thousands of letters about discipline sent to the NHL..it may not do anything, but ya never know.
Wildcard
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:35 am EST
WILD - Sjhithead Shannahan, the worst thing to happen to the NHL in years and years, incompetenlty showed long ago that thought process and intent does not matter, it's the results..And given that his kick landed and cut the equipment of Girardi, soemthin more than a moronic explanation and a "bad boy" should have been given out...Not that I expected it..
Hospo
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:11 am EST
Zebop: See, I personally thought, that the struggle type thing was the reason, and I believe it, and believe that he wasn't thinking, "kick him to hurt him" or anything. HOWEVER!!! Ever WITH that, it should have been a game...at least a hearing with a fine, so that if he was telling some BS to make sure he could play game 7, if he ever "panicked" again he would be a repeat offender. I bet he never does it again, I bet he never does anything so dangerous again...he lost his head for a second in a high pressure game, it happens...and i don't blame these guys for making a mistake every once in a while...but you still need to pay for it. Hagelin wasn't given a break for it, neither was Neal for crying out loud...he hit was less dangerous than kicking IMHO and he got a game. It should have been handled better, but i think it wasn't a conspiracy against the Rangers, or trying to get a Canadian team to the finals or some such stuff, I think it was a league office that really is afraid of any back lash, and they are random in their discipline.
Wildcard
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:03 am EST
You can see Dreger talk about it on TSN's site (http://tsn.ca/) by clicking on the video to the right called "Golden Opportunity," and at the tail end of the video is an overhead shot that I did not see yesterday that clearly shows Michalek kicking Girardi. Still, the NHL says a big "FU" to the Rangers.
Zebop
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:02 am EST
so it's not a conspiracy, but it does have a word or three....bias, prejudice, slanted, .......etc.......
stevielegs
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:01 am EST
Something that has been mentioned, but I think was lost in the excitement of getting a game 7, and the mess of missed calls and poor supplementary action by the NHL is Stepan. He has had back to back big games. Game 5 he was physical, and got shots, he played his best play off game of his career. In game 6 he wasn't as physical (but that OK in my book, he doesn't have to level a Neil every game to be physical enough) but he got better shots, and making better passes. He and Kreider along with Cally look like they could play together for the next few years, of course its just one game, but they just gelled so easily. Now I can say, with some confidence, that 3 games ago, Kreider would have looked like a rookie with him because Stepan was p[laying poorly, not in the game really. I was wondering after the 2 days off if Step was going to be better since some though perhaps his leg was bothering him...I don't know if that is what it was, but boy did he come back ready to go. If he can keep it up, the Rangers will have a 1-2 punch with the forward lines...you can not every leave the Richards line alone, and if the Stepan line can be consistent, you will have to worry about them as a D. That leaves the other lines to the lesser defensive players more often. The 3rd line may not have a lot of skill on it for the Rangers right now. Dubi with Prust and Ftank however do have the ability to get the puck in and create some chances, and there is enough skill in those guys to bury the odd puck, especially if they see the 3rd D pair a lot...or a tired 1st and 2nd pair. And if the rangers get through to the next round, and MZA can be back, put him on the 3rd line (and PP) in the place of Prust, and suddenly the 3rd line is just a bit more dangerous. Of course though...got to keep their eyes on teh ball...or would it be puck?, and win game 7 first.
Wildcard
Wed Apr 25 2012 9:00 am EST
Darren Dreger on TSN said Michalek got off with a warning because Shanahan essentially bought his explanation that he felt "trapped" underneath the pileup in the crease and "panicked," so kicking his way out was excused. And no, I'm not making this up. What an absolute joke this player safety dept is, esp. in light of Shanahan suspending Skinner earlier this year and using these words, ""any intentional or reckless use of a skate blade in this manner is extremely dangerous and unacceptable." ... I agree with Brooks saying although there's no "conspiracy" to help Ottawa win, the NHL is probably tired of Ranger complaints and Torts' criticisms and outbursts (the Winter Classic did not do the Rangers any favors with the league) that they simply won't get the benefit of the doubt in these cases.
Zebop
Wed Apr 25 2012 8:49 am EST
NHL , refs , and shanahanjob..." We steal games " ..........
stevielegs
Wed Apr 25 2012 6:24 am EST
Thanks Brooks! "Discipline against Lundqvist would fall under the category of commissioner off-ice discipline as per NHL by-law 17, under which the maximum fine levied against a player — for “conduct” detrimental to the league — is $1,000." Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/no_replaying_past_mistakes_CtkCPRnilU7b5G0PxH4TTI#ixzz1t3BYu8RK
Ola
Wed Apr 25 2012 6:23 am EST
Stevie- Haha. And I am not sure why, would I would have given alot to see Torts reaction when he read the “I steal forks from restaurants”-part lol.
Ola
Wed Apr 25 2012 6:19 am EST
Michalek may not have been disciplined, but The Post has learned Shanahan told the winger the next time he does something like that, he’ll have to stand outside the NHL office on Sixth Avenue wearing a sandwich sign that says, “I steal forks from restaurants.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/no_replaying_past_mistakes_CtkCPRnilU7b5G0PxH4TTI#ixzz1t39XUcSv
stevielegs
Wed Apr 25 2012 3:56 am EST
Hospo- You should come and listen to the seminar I give on Doris Day! ;)
Ola
Wed Apr 25 2012 3:52 am EST
bjohn18x- Yeah, but at the same time, and I can only speak for myself, it is easy to loose perspective. I have no doubt that Torts pissed the League off with his comments after the WC. I have no doubt they warned him, and asked him to just stay away from that kind of BS. And that they thought he crossed that line with his comments after the Pitt game. I have no doubt that has factored in to some other decisions. BUT, things go both ways. I thought MDZ hit on Neil was a headshot. Definitely. (And I of course also thought Neil's hit was a headshot on Boyle). In the end, I think the big problem is that Shanahan is INCOMPETENT. He has a tough job and is not experienced/smart enough guy in perspective to that job. Put yourself in his shoes, or Campbells shoes. What happen to you, or the league, if people starts -- to really -- target Sidney Crosby's head and he is forced to retire at like the age of 25? If he got a glass head, its not much you can do about it. But if he is tragetted, you would be HANGED afterwards. These guys comes around every 10 years and the NHL gotta keep them live and kicking so to speak. That's clearly a message. And the thought behind it is probably OK, but the execution plan has been horrible. Is it OK for Shanny to go to a key coach and tell him to not cross the line, and then hawk him if he does? Yeah, I guess so. But the PROBLEM starts when it doesn't stop there. When it spills over. When EGOS becomes a part of it. When the NHL do not put up a principle to threat EVERYONE EQUAL as holy, they dig a deeper and deeper hole for themselves.
Ola
Wed Apr 25 2012 2:54 am EST
I guess this might be the place to note it, any discipline to Milan Michalek ain't gonna matter for sh*t if the Sens don't win Game 7. I've never been much for conspiracies, but this stinks. Neil, a previous offender, makes a statement that he's gonna nail Del Zotto presumably with the intention to hurt him. This is the kind of stuff that gets coaches suspended in the NFL. I love hockey, but WTF? The King will probably get a heftier penalty ($2,500 ain't much, but it's something) for saying the obvious while the other two skate free.
bjohn18x
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:49 pm EST
rewatching game 6... marc staal had a monster game...
schneidw
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:25 pm EST
The MONK is back! Well played brother!
Bob
Tue Apr 24 2012 9:51 pm EST
Have to share this: THe King telling the refs 'You F***ing Suck!' caught on TV... love it! Man, he was pissed! LET'S GO RANGERS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENj3tDfEUNc
Z
Tue Apr 24 2012 9:31 pm EST
The Rangers need to take all this shit from the NHL and make it a we against the world and come out with a big fury of HATE. they need to KIll Ottawa on the board and then physically as well. Thursday is to far away.
KIS
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:50 pm EST
A business associate emailed me today that Ranger fans are hypocritical regarding the Ottawa "goal" because Avery made a living running into Uncle Daddy. I responded that the No-Tell Motel made a living off Uncle Daddy and his sister-in-law running into it.
FerociousMonk94
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:13 pm EST
Slegs: get back into the kitchen & tend to your baking.....We're gonna fuckin win Thursday! Lets feed Ottawa some Crow !
mf
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:12 pm EST
http://adhilde.hubpages.com/hub/Basic-Rules-NHL-Hockey-Visual-Guide........ ........Puck Kicked in Net with Distinct Kicking Motion: In hockey, sticks get dropped, broken, tangled with other player, etc. So, players are trained to develop the ability to kick and control the puck with their feet. Kicking the puck is very common, and is often used by skilled players to trick other players all the time. No matter how fancy a player's foot work is, it is not allowed to kick the puck in the net intentionally. This is not saying that a puck that is scored off the feet of an offensive player does not count. The rule is stated that the puck can not be scored with a "distinct kicking motion." Players may angle their feet with the intent of deflecting the puck in, as long as it does not appear that their feet move in a kicking motion. Officials have spent considerable amounts of time reviewing goals scored off of players' feet to determine if they were "kicked" into the net. In the event of the non-kicking motion goals, they will count (subject to the opinion of the referee and official staff reviewing the goal). However, in the case that the staff feel that the puck was kicked in with the motion of a kick, the goal will be dis-allowed, and the face off will come to the closest face off circle or dot to where the puck was kicked.
mf
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:06 pm EST
i don't care about your stinkin rules
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:04 pm EST
Goalie interference: IMO, worth a look..... Table 18 - Rule 69 - Interference on the Goalkeeper / Interference on the Goalkeeper Situations .......http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26557
mf
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:01 pm EST
I don't think that there is an open conspiracy against the NYR any more then any other team. The issue here is that the overall calling has been awful. The NYR have unfortunately consistently been victimized by this during this series. Its been horrible. Add to it that Shanahan has been unable to find balance on his rulings and there is nothing but chaos. He just completely lost his moral compass after that Carkner-Boyle incident and since that its been chaos. Across the board the refs have been bad. A lot of the older refs have gone away and for as much as we complained about them, I'd love to have them back nowadays. Vinnerborg and Hebart are two that stand out to me. Every time I hear Sam Rosen announce either of those two guys and cringe at how bad they are going to be. Never thought I would say it but I wish McReary was still around.
E
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:55 pm EST
From NHL.Com (BTW, Krieder served a 2 minute minor for brushing the goalie earlier that period (1 believe it was the 3rd period)).......Rule 69 - Interference on the Goalkeeper 69.1 Interference on the Goalkeeper - This rule is based on the premise that an attacking player’s position, whether inside or outside the crease, should not, by itself, determine whether a goal should be allowed or disallowed. In other words, goals scored while attacking players are standing in the crease may, in appropriate circumstances be allowed. Goals should be disallowed only if: (1) an attacking player, either by his positioning or by contact, impairs the goalkeeper’s ability to move freely within his crease or defend his goal; or (2) an attacking player initiates intentional or deliberate contact with a goalkeeper, inside or outside of his goal crease. Incidental contact with a goalkeeper will be permitted, and resulting goals allowed, when such contact is initiated outside of the goal crease, provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact. The rule will be enforced exclusively in accordance with the on-ice judgment of the Referee(s), and not by means of video replay or review……………. For purposes of this rule, “contact,” whether incidental or otherwise, shall mean any contact that is made between or among a goalkeeper and attacking player(s), whether by means of a stick or any part of the body…………. The overriding rationale of this rule is that a goalkeeper should have the ability to move freely within his goal crease without being hindered by the actions of an attacking player. If an attacking player enters the goal crease and, by his actions, impairs the goalkeeper’s ability to defend his goal, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed…………. If an attacking player has been pushed, shoved, or fouled by a defending player so as to cause him to come into contact with the goalkeeper, such contact will not be deemed contact initiated by the attacking player for purposes of this rule, provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact…………. If a defending player has been pushed, shoved, or fouled by an attacking player so as to cause the defending player to come into contact with his own goalkeeper, such contact shall be deemed contact initiated by the attacking player for purposes of this rule, and if necessary a penalty assessed to the attacking player and if a goal is scored it would be disallowed…………. 61.2 Penalty - In all cases in which an attacking player initiates intentional or deliberate contact with a goalkeeper, whether or not the goalkeeper is inside or outside the goal crease, and whether or not a goal is scored, the attacking player will receive a penalty (minor or major, as the Referee deems appropriate). In all cases where the infraction being imposed is to the attacking player for hindering the goalkeeper’s ability to move freely in his goal crease, the penalty to be assessed is for goalkeeper interference………….. In exercising his judgment, the Referee should give more significant consideration to the degree and nature of the contact with the goalkeeper than to the exact location of the goalkeeper at the time of the contact…………..
mf
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:55 pm EST
To even say this goes against every fiber of my being ... but I hope Newark defeats Florida in this series. No one has touched each other there for six games; Uncle Daddy can be had (and just was yet again; retire you fat fuck); and we will clobber those jokers. NO WAY I want to see Philly next. And not that I'm counting Thursday yet ...
Nick
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:45 pm EST
You know, I have never hated Ottawa. But based on the performance of their assclown players and fans, I now hate them large. They have climbed up my list to settle directly below our division and Boston. The refs have been dreadful, of course. Wonder who is reffing Thursday night. Wanna bet that one of them is former Jr. Flyer and Winter Classic clown Ian Walsh?
Bob
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:26 pm EST
FM that's more proof of buttman hockey, a joke. "i went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out "
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:25 pm EST
...As bad as Alfredsson behaved, Lundqvist was worse. The Rangers goalie had every right to lose his marbles on his crossbar, for the last-minute goal against him that closed the gap to one should never have counted — unless it’s suddenly within the rules to knock a ‘tender out of his crease and kick the puck into the net. But ultimately, his team won. Lundqvist should have shut his yap and smiled to the queries later on. Instead, he babbled about what a joke the officiating was, like that’s a scoop in these playoffs.----------------------Don Brennan, Ottawa Sun
E
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:17 pm EST
Print media's pretty quiet about The Worst Call In NHL History. In my seemingly ageless naivete I expected full back page headlines blasting the NHL's incompetence. What was I thinking? The Mets had another meaningless game yesterday. Shit; had the call cost us the game it would get about 7 square inches of space, and then on to baseball/basketball jock sniffing.
FerociousMonk94
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:09 pm EST
Rhet - That's funny...I counted two...maybe three...reasons in that list for why the goal should have been disallowed...(ii) and (v) are the most obvious ones...but then there (iv), which technically should have been in effect(when a goal has been scored and an ineligible player is on the ice). Neil SHOULD have been ineligible for that game, considering if he had laid that hit on anyone other than a Ranger, he would have been suspended for AT LEAST a game...most likely, more...thus ineligible to play...Re: Shanahan...what a goddamn cock smoker. It embarrasses me that he once wore a Ranger jersey....Now he's showing his true colors as a classless sniveling puke who would(and does) suck Buttman sideways as long as he can keep his cushy job. ..here's another oddity I've noticed today...this morning, the schedule I looked at via a scores app on my phone lists EVERY GAME except the Rangers' game 7. Hmmm...is that because there wasn't supposed to BE a game 7? You read the Canadian press today and it sure sounds like they weren't expecting a game 7. THE FIX IS IN!!
tdchi
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:08 pm EST
yes!!!
E
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:06 pm EST
intangibles
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 6:59 pm EST
*sighs*
E
Tue Apr 24 2012 6:47 pm EST
This would be funny if it wasn't so disturbing. A friggin warning? Why do I even bother watching any longer? Disgraceful. Absolute f'n disgrace.
Fotiu22
Tue Apr 24 2012 6:21 pm EST
Shanahan probably included the apology for the Foligno penalty that led to the 5 on 3 goal by Richards. He did get a pat on the back from Murray about the allownce of the Spezza "goal" at the end.
Bob
Tue Apr 24 2012 6:00 pm EST
Brendan Shanahan issued a warning that similar behavior will not be tolerated from Michalek. What he means is, it will be tolerated if the other sens players do it. Just get the feeling that the warning is really meant for the Rangers.
Louie
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:48 pm EST
the nhl is an embarrassment . they are a parody of themselves, a bad snl skit.
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:43 pm EST
LIke I said before, Shanahan is the culprit, moron, brain dead loser....Only he would come up with "warning that similar behavior will not be tolerated" ...How assinine is that..not an offense today, but it will be tomorrow????.....Or he means....you kicked him with your skate, but we don't want to suspend you, so we are warning you to actually warn the Rangers that if they do it or anything, they will be suspneded.."
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:38 pm EST
they been warned, "we can't do much more blatant and bias calls for you, some of it you'll have to be on your own. beat those ny bastards, remember the password is left right blink to the ref. tell neil he's passed avery by a mile, just no non-hockey talk please. thanks for your cooperation, but remember we couldn't get the crosby group t o win. we are not magicians, just facilitators. good luck you've been warned ;-)"
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:36 pm EST
Michalek will not face supplemental discipline Tuesday, 04.24.2012 / 5:26 PM By NHL.com Staff - / Rangers vs. Senators series blog Ottawa forward Milan Michalek will not face supplemental discipline for using his skate to shove Rangers defenseman Dan Girardi during a pile-up of players in the crease late in Game 6 of the Eastern Conference quarterfinals on Monday night at Scotiabank Place. Senior Vice President of Player Safety Brendan Shanahan issued a warning that similar behavior will not be tolerated from Michalek in a phone call to Ottawa GM Bryan Murray on Tuesday afternoon. The Rangers won the game, 3-2, to even the series at three games each. Game 7 is Thursday at Madison Square Garden.
Louie
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:31 pm EST
Ottawa "warned?" This gets better and better. Bet that Bettman does not show up at the Garden on Thursday. he would not get out alive after his minions have us shorthanded for most of the game.
Bob
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:22 pm EST
Assholes..Like I said.." No Dinner for you, be a goot boy......and...pssssst..... beat the Rangers"
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:19 pm EST
Shanny, if nothing happened, why give the GM a warning?
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:16 pm EST
According to Andrew Gross Ottawa has been "warned" however no hearing or punishment anywhere in sight
RDW
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:12 pm EST
MF... Hope this helps... from the NHL Official Rules... 78.5 Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public Address Announcer for the following reasons: ...(i) When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. ...(ii) When the puck has been kicked using a distinct kicking motion. ...(iii) When the puck has deflected directly into the net off an official. ...(iv) When a goal has been scored and an ineligible player is on the ice. ...(v) When an attacking player has interfered with a goalkeeper in his goal crease. ...(vi) When the puck has entered the net after making contact with an attacking player’s stick that is above the height of the crossbar. Where the puck makes contact with the stick is the determining factor. See 38.4(vi). ...(vii) When video review confirms the scoring of a goal at one end of the ice, any goal scored at the other end on the same play must be disallowed. ...(viii) When a Linesman reports a double-minor penalty for high-sticking, a major penalty or a match penalty to the Referee following the scoring of a goal by the offending team, the goal must be disallowed and the appropriate penalty assessed. ...(ix) When a goalkeeper has been pushed into the net together with the puck after making a save. See also 69.6. ...(x) When the net becomes displaced accidentally. The goal frame is considered to be displaced if either or both goal pegs are no longer in their respective holes in the ice, or the net has come completely off one or both pegs, prior to or as the puck enters the goal. ...(xi) During the delayed calling of a penalty, the offending team cannot score unless the non-offending team shoots the puck into their own net. This shall mean that a deflection off an offending player, or any physical action by an offending player that may cause the puck to enter the non-offending team’s goal, shall not be considered a legal goal. Play shall be stopped before the puck enters the net (whenever possible) and the signaled penalty assessed to the offending team. ...(xii) When the Referee deems the play has been stopped, even if he had not physically had the opportunity to stop play by blowing his whistle. ...(xiii) Any goal scored, other than as covered by the official rules, shall not be allowed.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:08 pm EST
stevie.., alot of "piss & vinegar" left in the old dogs here. Give us all an f@#%% jersey for Thurs.. We'll get some shit done!
pa.rangersfan
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:07 pm EST
mf..,don't kid yourself brother, the "real" football is a man's game for sure! Take in a game on the tube sometime, even the game here in the U.S. is quality now. You might like it!
pa.rangersfan
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:01 pm EST
who was that masked mf?,.......what crease?......my pants?......another riled one........
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:58 pm EST
And speaking in the third person! Now we know he's pissed!
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:54 pm EST
Man did I NOT type what I wanted to convey.... To hell with the crease, the prick is in the net, that's the point.... what is this Soccer? ... And NO, I dont know the soccer rules, and dont aim to learn them now.... I want the puckin goal nullified if Neil violated a rule that the refs and league are not recognizing..... And if i'm barking up the right tree (cause I'm a right of center mutha fucker "mf") then Sather & company should file a greivance that there was a rule on the books clearly violated that is being ignored..... now mf is articulating! woohoo
mf
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:49 pm EST
Slegs: With all due respect; i did not mention being in the crease, (I need ro re-review the video) I believe Neils feet cross the redline before the puck... Anyone know if this is allowed ???
mf
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:47 pm EST
the nhl will continue to try and stop the big market no respect NYR.....the NYR have to stick to the NOT HAVING LOGIC......NHL......they want the smaller teams, those with less money, to win.........it's their marketing plan.......
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:44 pm EST
pa.rangersfan - Hah! I had a feeeling KIS was a Prancer and a diver on the pitch..:)...Needed guys like you to play big!....Jsut kidding KIS...I'm sure you were a bastard also!
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:39 pm EST
Hospo.. 10/4! I love it because I was the same type of soccer player in my day. I dropped a guy or two on the field for my boy KIS; he was our "Crosby" back in the day! LOL
pa.rangersfan
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:33 pm EST
pa.rangersfan - But I am so sick of the way the Rangers are getting screwed over by the League while other teams get favoritism...Like somebody said, it boils your blood...We had the "poor" high school and travel team way back and were treated like that, and always used it to our advantage.
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:33 pm EST
To be honest when I watched the kick video this morning I didn't see anything. I just watched it again more closely and it's hard to believe that a hearing isn't scheduled yet. Shanahan and co. are really shitting the bed this post-season.
RDW
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:31 pm EST
The whole point about the NEIL kick is that it shouldn't matter in the first place! IT'S TEXT-BOOK GOALTENDER INTERFERENCE. Two minutes to Neil, out of the game...game over, 3-1 final. The guy whales into Hank with his stick first, and then his body...and then as VIC pointed out, he kicks Hank's hand. Anyone of those motions would have obstructed the goalie's ability to play the puck and thus should have been an interference call, especially considering that Neil DELIBERATELY did all three motions. If you're gonna call KREIDER on his bump of ANDERSON, then you've got to call Neil's calamity of a play in front of Lundqvist. The bottom line is the refs wanted to make it interesting. They stayed by the 'let them play' conclusion just like they did at the winter classic. Closer games, more people staying tuned in, better ratings..AND...no matter how you look at the call, EVERYONE is talking about it now, and in Buttman's NHL, that's gold.
tdchi
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:31 pm EST
Pa.rangers fan - Hah, I wish...I'm reverting back to my playing days...God, I was a hated dirtbag everywhere on the ice......I know, nothing's changed....
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:29 pm EST
Steve CT.., check the sched. buddy, just sayin'...
pa.rangersfan
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:28 pm EST
STEVIE - "Don't drink the milk - it's spoiled...Pass it on" We have to send Butch and Woirm home crying on Thursday....
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:28 pm EST
Hospo.., I want a uni..on your back for Thurs nite! You are one chippy S.O.B. lately.
pa.rangersfan
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:28 pm EST
stevielegs: Right on, get angry while still keeping your composure. I suspect we are going to annihilate the Sens Friday.
SteveCT
Tue Apr 24 2012 4:25 pm EST
the trick is for the TEAM to get angry and determined on the scoreboard, and send the sens-less and the nhl-augh packing. ..........I know The King is riled......pass it on..........
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:57 pm EST
This non-call is making my blood boil... I'm not surprised mind you, just disgusted... you can see Michalek's legs were to the left of the screen and then he brings one over to the right to kick Girardi... there is no way you can even claim it wasn't accidental... What Shanahan really meant to say... "any intentional or reckless use of skate blade in this manner is dangerous and unacceptable"... "except when a team is playing the Rangers."
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:52 pm EST
mf: I believe that as long as he doesn't interfere with the goaltender's ability to play the puck (har, har, har) the offensive player can be in the crease.
SteveCT
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:48 pm EST
A kick is not a kick when it's against the Rangers.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:45 pm EST
Rhet - Not me...Bettman is a smart man..He is a weasal ...a slime..you name it, but he's smart....Shanahan's decisions and his assinine explainaions and his TV disaster spots reek of pure stupidity and incompetence---that's him.....Now, going after Torts with a lame excuse about cursing is all from the Napolean Nimrod...What a pair!
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:44 pm EST
Here is good footage of Michalek kicking Girardi... http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/rangers/video-shows-ottawa-senators-milan-michalek-kick-ny-rangers-defenseman-dan-girardi-game-6-article-1.1066791
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:41 pm EST
Please, one of you hockey lords educate me: If I'm not mistaken, Neils feet cross the redline and are technically in the goal before the puck crosses the redline..... I thought that if a player is any part across the redline and technically in the net before the puck, that all goals are disqualified....... thank you
mf
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:40 pm EST
John Tortorella was asked what his thoughts were about playing the first Game 7 in the Garden in 18 years... “My thought is to win it.” ...I'm not psychic, but I could've told you his answer before he said it.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:34 pm EST
further proof that the NHL is a joke... Girardi had a slice in his pants... how could they decide that their wasn't even anything to review? I would have to think the goalie cam at the very least had the kick(s).
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:31 pm EST
HOSPO... I firmly believe it's all Bettman... Colie was just as bad as Shanny... I just think they have to play with the hand that's dealt them and they have no autonomy... of course if they had any self respect, they could always quit.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:25 pm EST
WILD - If it was the other way, of course there would have been....Still awaiting a fine and a scolding for the KIng from the NHL bozos....Rules mean nothing...Everything comes out of thin air......I honestly feel that Shanahan has singlehandley lead the NHL on a path to mockery with his utter incompetence and stupidity..He needs to be pblically embarassed/ridiculed..
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:16 pm EST
Via twitter it looks like no hearing for the kick....surprise surprise surprise.
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:16 pm EST
Not sure if it was mentioned yet but NEIL's stick in Hank's mid section pushing him out of the crease allowing Neil to have space to kick the puck in. I know that up stairs can't call that but just saying. ref24
ref24
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:16 pm EST
Josh: i also think that the "war room" should be able to review the goal for any infractions that happen be it, kicking, a high stick, or goalie interference. Its silly that there is video evidence of something, but you cant use it. And I do like the coaches challenge, and to make it 'fair' each team can get one IF they have a time out remaining...perhaps that the punishment for getting it wrong.
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:08 pm EST
A Predators-Blues conference final could be an all-time snoozer. 6 overtime 1-0 games.
Bob
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:07 pm EST
Jake - Agreed. Aside from Lundqvist (and maybe Rinne), Quick is the best goalie in the league. . . . . . . Trade - If that happens, we get a Rangers/Caps rematch (along with plenty of 'exorcise the demons' stories). . . . . . Wild/Vic - I heard part of the issue was that the War Room can only try to determine kicking, and, even if they see that there was goalie interference, they can't call it. I think they need to allow the War Room to call ANYTHING (including interference) on a disputed goal review, and give each coach one 'Challenge' per game to request a video review a la NFL.
josh29
Tue Apr 24 2012 3:06 pm EST
TRADE - Nope, you jinxed the Rangers! All i know is the score was 1-0 Sens and the Rangers looking King Henrik and the Walking Dead when I went from my big screen (i feared breaking it!) and cushy den to my son's room....It worked! :).........As for the West, the PREDS are my fave and they are looking damn good with Radulov finally starting to fit in....and Gill should be back...
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 2:55 pm EST
trade- Quick is well above average. he perhaps is the best goalie in the league. Your selling him way too short.
jake
Tue Apr 24 2012 2:41 pm EST
If the Rangers win on Thursday.....and teams like Boston and Devils lose their series.....I gotta say that the Rangers chances this year go up big time. Some will say not to talk about it.....but i can assure everyone that by me mentioning this will have no bearing on the Rangers season, whatsoever!
TradeStar28
Tue Apr 24 2012 2:38 pm EST
Not much talk about the Wild Western conference......Blues vs Kings.......Coyotes vs Predators......Talk about 4 teams that you would never guess to have a shot to play for the Cup........All 4 with above average goalies.
TradeStar28
Tue Apr 24 2012 2:17 pm EST
dave maloney asking why all 4 officials get together for a puck going into the stands, but for little else....Not Having Logic , nhl.......
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 2:09 pm EST
The thing about the NEIL goal that frustrates me the most is that it really doesn't matter if he touched the puck with his skate. If you watch the replay you can clearly see his skate kicking HANK's stick toward the puck before the skate obscures the view. The puck wasn't moving and then it accelerated. There are only two explanations. Ether the bottom of NEIL's skate directly hit the puck or HANK's stick hit the puck after it was kicked by NEIL. Either way the goal should be disallowed. You can't score on a distinct kicking motion regardless if it goes in directly or indirectly. Kicking a stick into the puck is the same is kicking the puck.
Vic
Tue Apr 24 2012 1:12 pm EST
Hospo: i guess that's true...but they can also have an idea of what they think, and than check with the other officials to see if they saw anything...it just seems silly to go with something you can barely see with the human eye and not go to video....it exists, use it...again, its about doing the best things possible to get it correct, not just make a call and stand by it.
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 1:05 pm EST
WILD - Agree to disagree..Refs have to make all calls as if there is no Video Replay (what if it malfunctions?)..then go for help if they need it or are asked..
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 1:03 pm EST
mf - That people are even counting my typos makes me feel all verklempt! And that was zero typos...I think!
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 1:01 pm EST
I wish the game 7 was tonight with Neil all amped up ready to defend his masculinity and lose his mind..and lead a few of the other Sens astray.......And I don't want one Ranger dressed for or thinkign about retribution or protection....Just play their game, beat the Sens and be done with them..
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 1:01 pm EST
Hospo, while I agree...there is no way he didn't see Neils foot, and in that instant, If he could just put both arms up and go to review I bet he would have....every goal gets reviewed anyway in the POs, and they must know their limits on the ice. MOST of the time they know one way or the other...you do see it with high sticks, if the stick is close they just stop the play and skate to the booth to check, they just need to extend that to other things, like kicking motion...and maybe putting it in with the hand, if they cant tell what it hit. That would only be 1 out of 10 games on 1 goal...it wouldn't be too much extra. And I, and everyone else should, want it correct, not fast.
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 12:58 pm EST
Hospo: only 1 typo, R.U.O.K. ?
mf
Tue Apr 24 2012 12:56 pm EST
WILD - Nah, you have to make your best call on the ice and then let the video either confirm or deny it...Otherwise, and what happens too much, refs are afraid to make calll...or look for help....This even happens when you have too many officials on the ice.
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 12:52 pm EST
Rhet: From the link you posted: Neil States, "I'm sure I'll catch him with his head down one of these times," he said, according to several reports." .... This makes public the thought process of this bastard when he is on the ice....Neil is a repeat offender, his thought process is confirmed with how he targeted Boyle, and it is his thought process moving forward.... Neil seeks the opportunity with "Intent to Injure" and he confirmed it with his own speaking.... Are you reading this Brendan Shanahan? How about you Midget Buttphuck? ..... Hey Brooksie, how about a little mention in the Post? ..... Neil needs to be fined and or publicly reprimanded that his next altercation wil result in an "exponentially harsher fine & suspension now that he clued the world in to what can be expected of him!" Its also time Neil died by the sword. Where's the "moiyal?" :->) (thats yiddish folks)
mf
Tue Apr 24 2012 12:33 pm EST
RDW: I have mentioned here beofore...even though some done beleive me...there is a former NHL ref who lives not too far from me here in Colorado...now granted he retired more than 5 years ago, but las season I talked with him and asked about why the refs seeming miss some things like that when they are 3 or 4 feet away...he said that at times he was sure he saw nothing wrong, than on the big board was shocked to see a high stick, or a glove or a kick or even totally shocked the puck did or didn't go in...other times he said they were instructed to call it one way or another in order to keep the flow with out things having to stop for no reason, and that includes when the puck crosses the line... the "old school" way is that if the puck crosses the line, you point that it is in, like to goal judge, the light goes on if it crosses the line. The refs than depend on review to see if anything was wrong, or they wave it off if they are sure something was done legally. Just stopping the play and looking at the tape to figure out what happened apparently isn't...well wasn't when he was reffing, an official thing to do. So in this instance, even though Neals foot was moving forward, if he wasnt sure he hit it, than its a goal. That is wrong IMHO, if there is ANY chance, it should be just a whistle and point to the booth. But that's not the way they were, or probably are taught.
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 12:19 pm EST
josh29: :->) brilliant ! :->)
mf
Tue Apr 24 2012 11:54 am EST
Josh29 - funny....Put him in a Body Bag!
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 11:51 am EST
Even better, apparently the Rangers have never lost a PO series game 7 at MSG. EVER....
RF4L
Tue Apr 24 2012 11:50 am EST
Josh that's hysterical, love the Rockettes one :)
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 11:46 am EST
RinkRat... That's why it's the greatest sport in the world... Tweet by Brooks.... "Gotta love when someone writes "kicks" as if Milan Michalek didn't actually kick Dan Girardi...kinda like Neil hitting Boyle in the "head."
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 11:45 am EST
Just some photoshops I felt obligated to put together in response to Chris Neil's kicked-in goal... enjoy: http://imgur.com/a/vJExU#0
josh29
Tue Apr 24 2012 11:44 am EST
I said this last night, and I'll say it again now, how does Peel not see the kicking motion and wave the goal off right away? He's right f'ing there!!!!!!
RDW
Tue Apr 24 2012 11:44 am EST
Interesting stat (not that it means anything), but the Ottawa Senators are 0-5 in Game 7 situations for the history of their franchise.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 11:38 am EST
Tell me, is there anything better in sports than the NHL Playoffs when you are invested deeply with a team participating in them?? I don't think so.
RinkRat
Tue Apr 24 2012 11:25 am EST
OLA... Everyone knows that Hoffa is buried under the goal post at Giants Stadium.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 11:17 am EST
Damn OLA, how did you pick those two American Icons? Just curious
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:50 am EST
Jimmy Hoffa could have made a Barbara Streisand imitation right in Hank's crease and nobody would have seen him.
Ola
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:44 am EST
or 3. Gary Buttphuck.s manhood.
RF4L
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:43 am EST
sjw... very funny.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:41 am EST
opps I missed a part..."or to create the appearence of a close game thus generating fan excitement and profits"
sjw
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:40 am EST
Sorry we are all wrong I looked it up My apoligy .. it makes sense since I looke dup the definition: in·con·clu·sive ( n k n-kl s v). adj origin 1680, updated 2012 1. not conclusive; not resolving fully all doubts or questions: inconclusive evidence. 2. Any play deemed not in the interest of NHL officials, often used to apply a double standard to players and teams depending on who's favoured by the league
sjw
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:37 am EST
The Max Lundqvist can get fined for his comments is $2,500 per the NHLPA.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:35 am EST
WILD... I'm thinking more that the League will sit on the footage and say it was inconclusive... the ref will have amnesia.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:34 am EST
No way on earth Michalek gets suspended for something even most Wallsters can't detect. Not that it didn't happen; I'm saying if that goal was 'inconclusive' then this surely is, in the NHL's eyes. As for MDZ, he had his arms glued to his sides, didn't launch, didn't leave his feet ... but his uni said 'Rangers' across the front, so who knows?
Nick
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:34 am EST
Rhet: Oh there is better footage of it...and if it exists, from what I learned, the NHL has access, and it cant be withheld from them....unless the broadcaster lies...BUT MSG gets the raw feeds from each camera as well, even the in house ones, in order to make replays of whatever they want, or highlight reels and what not. So it would take BOTH broadcasters to hide it...not likely. Again, we may never see the footage that they use to review it due to broadcaster rights about what is shown and what is already out there....and they can use the clips WE have already seen in any release...but there should be more than enough footage to know if he kicked him weather it be intent to injure or just a stupid mistake struggling on the ice...and again, if its not on purpose it was at least reckless, the linesman is lucky he didn't come in the wrong way, or he would have gotten it...
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:30 am EST
Rhet, I agree that it should be enough, with multiple views...Im just talking about the one view we can see...I am sure more vid will surface during the day if it exists....but the Refs were not focused there, and rightly so, a lot was going on....the linesmen was jumping in, but he was looking the wrong way...with the mass of humans in front there, the other ref may have looked away at the wrong moment...it happens...but the camera didn't blink, and should be enough to suspend him...it was dangerous on purpose or not.
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:25 am EST
WILD... Per Girardi, he kicked him twice... I also can guarantee you that there is footage of it... the camera's don't all focus on the same thing.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:23 am EST
I mean, they are struggling on the ice, the linesmen is jumping in, so it may have not been a kick at G, just kind of wiggling around...so I might believe if he said he didn't intend to kick him, or even realize he did...but to me that's dangerous and its worth a game...NEXT ISSUE is camera views, the cameras were following the puck, Hank charging and screaming at the ref (who did a great job I think after the fact keeping things cool and communicating with Hank...and he was on the wrong side to see Neal's stick into Hank or the kicking motion so its the other refs that messed up IMHO) and also following Neal...so non may have been focused on the correct spot...now if there is another camera they were not using for the broadcast at the moment because it didn't show the goal, than we wont know as fans unless the NHL releases it.
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:23 am EST
WILD.... MSG was there and they always get the shot... that and a ref was right there.... Girardi also said that his pant leg was cut... but I would not be surprised to see it be called "inconclusive."
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:17 am EST
Zebop: Its hard as hell to see....but in the link I put in my last post, JUST as the camera starts to zoom on Hank yelling at the ref, if you watch to the left hip of Giradi, you can see the skate kind of kick...frankly from THAT angle, it may or may not be a "kick" or a "push" and may be the guy trying to get leverage to push G off, at least it COULD be seen that way and if that's what he said right away, it may be true...but it could also be a kick to try to injure...its hard to tell...really, regardless, it needs to be like a high stick, if you kick a guy in a scrum and its not while falling and something that is clearly an accident, you should get a game....and if it looks for sure to be on purpose, it should start at 3 games. just IMHO
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:12 am EST
I just watched the last minute of CBC's coverage (the whole game available on their site, by the way) and nothing there either. The kick must have been something they caught postgame (which CBC's site does not include, other than a few comments). Girardi was tied up with Michalek and cross checked him to the ice. That's all I saw.
Zebop
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:09 am EST
halfway decent view of what was broadcast...now, apparently the NHL has access to the master tapes by rule, so each camera is recorded and there is some cutting the on site crew did in order to show replays, and that wont hamper the NHL like it does "us" but here is the link. http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2012/04/24/note-milan-michalek-could-face-supplemantary-discipline-for-shoving-with-his-skate/
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:08 am EST
There is no way the NHL will suspend MDZ after letting Neil off the hook for what was clearly a more nasty hit. Neil will hunt down MDZ though, especially if the game gets out of hand on the scoreboard by either team. I am sure of it. I suspect Neil would have gone after MDZ if the Sens didn't score that 2nd goal.
RF4L
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:07 am EST
Rhet _ could be, gotta find a way to even it up........I looked at any avaiable video provided in the links below and didn't see any Michalek kick...Hell, it seemed like any time you might see something, they cut away...
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:04 am EST
This series has been a great introduction for my 9 year old kid on the ups and downs of being a Ranger fan. Not sure how long Prust has left on his contract but he is just as much the heart and soul of this team as Cally. F-Neal.
Fotiu22
Tue Apr 24 2012 10:02 am EST
Del Zotto hit was very clean, but watch him get suspended :)... http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/hockey/post/_/id/8717/neil-issues-warning-to-del-zotto-after-hit
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 9:59 am EST
More than likely the League and this incompetent buffoon Shannahan will tell Michalek.."Bad boy, you can't eat supper and give us a check for two thousand" Then this rotting corpse will give his video excpanation yammering abou accidental..lack of intent.....and it was only the R angers...:".....If Hank wasn't a star in the League and in Sweden I might be afraid of them suspending him a game just to show the Rangers..
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 9:50 am EST
Michalek should definitely get a one game suspension... Jeff Skinner did something similar in March.... only kicked his opponent once, there was no injury and he got 2 games (1 playoff game worth 2 regular season games)... Shanahan said "any intentional or reckless use of skate blade in this manner is dangerous and unacceptable".... watch him NOT suspend Michalek,.. http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2012/04/24/note-milan-michalek-could-face-supplemantary-discipline-for-shoving-with-his-skate/
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 24 2012 9:46 am EST
NHL Investigating....http://m.ottawasun.com/2012/04/24/nhl-investigates-alleged-kick-involving-senators-michalek Dreger states that it is aking to what Skinner did earlier this year which netted him a 2 game ban
PatrickDiv
Tue Apr 24 2012 9:38 am EST
Fivehole -- I'm sure they've already burned the tape to protect the guilty. Was seen on CBC's coverage (or may TSN's?). ... On MSG, I do remember seeing Girardi with a grimmace on his face after that last goal scrum and was wondering what happened. No mention about anything until I read that this morning.
Zebop
Tue Apr 24 2012 9:30 am EST
can anyone provide a link to the Michalek incident against Girardi? I watched the entire game and VS. (NBC Sports Network) made no mention of it so I didn't see it. Forget all this talk about Neal, if Michalek is out for game 7 that would be awesome.
Fivehole
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:58 am EST
2 things about last night. I think it is good the crooked NHL let the goal stand. You see how piised HAnk was after the game. I think it makes him more focused for game 7 and brings the team together even more. Us against the world mentalilty. Love it. 2nd, for all of you who said it was worthless to retaliate, have you seen what many of the players are saying was the turning point. Thats right, it was Prust fighting Neil. This is a physical sport and you can't get hit and take it. Not on a high leve. It affects the mentality. The Rangers had to take on Neil. HE has been a pest. I would have various people go afte Neil even if it is to keep him off the ice and in the box. Neil is useless in the box. Lets Go Rangers.
KIS
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:34 am EST
You guys who are now loathing the Senators - join the club. They've been this way for a few years - before the lockout even.
RF4L
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:27 am EST
Oh...and speaking of NEIL..someone remind me why he was on the ice last night when BOYLE is out with a concussion? Came from behind. Targeted the head. Has prior incidents. And now he's verbally TELLING the NHL he's going out to head hunt in Game 7. I'm sure this league will be the shining example of diligence when someone gets carted off on a stretcher Thursday.
tdchi
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:24 am EST
RF4L - I used to feel that way about CALLY..nbut he has showed alot more creativity this year and he has a damn fine shot...plue he goes to the net and hots as much and as hard as many "power forwards"..Without a doubt a PRIME Top 6 winger.....WILDCAD - Dubi played a great game...great defesnively..good on FOs..great effort and movement...just seesm to fal down alot and has lost any offensive hockey skill---I don't know why.....I wouldn;t wory about KREIDER's ice tiem...he's set on the line with Cally and Steppan wouldn't you think?
Hospo
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:21 am EST
Well, the chicken wire got good use and the beer got polished off...but I only made it part-way into the drug draw, thanks to that second period explosion...couple thoughts: Just got to reiterate all the kudos here for KREIDER. You could see him getting better each game...and man, does he ever give the Rangers another gear in their wheel house. He does the EXACT same thing HAGELIN did when he first came to the team, only he has size and a better shot. Having those two in the lineup gives the Rangers a guy on two lines that can forecheck like no one else on the ice. that's a HUGE advantage...Someone early on in the game was bagging on us arguing about the reffing? Well, come the F@CK on. BOTH of the Senators' goals came from calls that were just ridiculous. RUPP should have never gotten a roughing call for that. Why? Look at the name on the other jersey: KONOPKA. I could see handing him two if he was doing that to ALFREDSSON or another guy who isn't prone to respond. But Konopka? Really?!? And then NEIL'S "goal"...even if you believe in the crazy physics that say that puck accelerated after it pass between LUNDQVIST'S wickets...even if you're that inept to under stand the laws of inertia...NEIL WAS CRASHING THE CREASE!!! IT WAS INTERFERENCE!! There should have been no going to Toronto because Neil should have been called for a minor BEFORE the puck got to him. I mean, how do you ignore that? He's got his stick in the midsection of Hank and is literally pushing him into the net. It doesn't get anymore clear than that...Anyway, my response to anyone who thinks this is 'whining' is get f@cking real. Learn the rules of hockey and if you still can't figure out why I'm making a stink about this, start watching baseball....Good for Hank for calling out the stripes. Excellent. It's not going to help us, but I'm glad someone has it on record...Remember, this isn't the first time the refs have made calls to keep the game close...and that's EXACTLY what that last goal was to do: Give the 20,000 schmuck Senators' fans in attendance a reason to stay for the last minute. I will say in defense of this tact, Buttman's NHL has done something I didn't think they'd be able to do: They've gotten me to absolutely HATE the Senators. I never cared about this team before...and even when they tied the series, I really didn't care. But to see the NHL literally rally behind them both makes me sick to my stomach and flames my detest for band of assholes Canada is now rallying behind(no offense to Canadian Ranger fans mind you) like some sort of national pride...And reading that link ColoradoMark posted made me want to throw my computer across the room. What a joke. Come on, Rangers...GET IT DONE!!! LETS GO RANGERS!!!
tdchi
Tue Apr 24 2012 8:21 am EST
Hank certainly won't get suspended (only Avery gets suspended for something said!) ... but I have no doubt the league will fine him. The league loves to fine the Rangers and disregard any cheap shots on them. Just the way it is. ... but getting back to Hank, I've never seen a guy so pissed after WINNING the game. He was so fired up he couldn't help himself with those comments. Who can blame him , really, after some of the officiating, noncalls, nonsuspensions, suspension to Hags, that this team had endured this season. ... And Neil is such a freaking tool. He threatens Del Zotto after the game, which I'm sure the league has no problem with.
Zebop
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:57 am EST
Nick: IMO (and I've said this before) Cally is complimentary top 6 winger. He rarely generates offensive chances himself and certainly not consistently. He finishes them, though (hence 29 goals). This is not an insult or a complaint. He does so many other things - painful gutcheck things - that elevates his overall effectiveness. Brad Richards, on the other hand, is a top 6 forward and his play last night clearly shows that. Where was he in games 2 to 5 I don't know. He must bring his game 6 effort to game 7, however (obviously). Ottawa will not go away quietly.
RF4L
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:53 am EST
Bickel something like 2 minutes of icetime and Rupp 4. Stupid. If that's the case, pressbox one of them and dress Scott. Let him target Neil....
RF4L
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:08 am EST
I don't have a clue what the precedent is on comments in interviews...
Ola
Tue Apr 24 2012 7:07 am EST
Haglen got into the line up as a result of injuries. He forced Torts to use him. Boyle being hurt forced Torts to reconfigure and use all of his players. That shows confidence in the team and not the over reliance on one guy. Dubi at center was key because he won face offs and got the puck in the Sens end. Torts is more often than not full of himself and something else. The injuries and circumstances forced him to put this improved alignment on the ice. As a side rant, I want to know why all these free market ideologs who run the league black out all the local broadcasts and force us to watch on Comcast's, NBC network, and then have the balls to use the Canadian feeds in the US. Where is my ability to make my rational choice as to which product I choose?
gene_carr
Tue Apr 24 2012 6:50 am EST
MF: Ola said something about being upset with Hank and something about Biron in game 7...I asked why...and Stevielegs (I think) said the NHL would like to find a reason to suspend him.
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 6:38 am EST
.....ok, someone fill in the blanks....what's this talk about a suspension for Hank?!
MelvilleFred
Tue Apr 24 2012 6:18 am EST
stevielegs: I think however, that the NHLPA would step up and put a ton of pressure to have that overturned...they may even say they will remove all the agreements they have been working on for the new CBA (and yes there is some stuff agreed apon. Like basic stuff) and they can threaten a tough zero give negotiation...the owners don't want that at all, so Hank will not be suspended...it would prove him rights well.
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 6:02 am EST
WILD if the nhl can find a rule or reason to suspend Henrik for, they will............... Not Having Logic.......NHL........
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:59 am EST
nhl has two sens-less to suspend both kicking & one threatening, and a NYR to fine for kicking his foot in his mouth. ....The King spoke his mind, so did Neil. Neil admitted who he is, and what he did to Boyle. And what he intends ( to injure) to do.
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:55 am EST
No. I'm not upset by his comments...and why the hell would Hank not be in for game 7?
Wildcard
Tue Apr 24 2012 5:54 am EST
Senators’ first-line winger Milan Michalek may be facing a suspension for Game 7 as a result of kicking Dan Girardi twice in the midsection with his skate blade. The play was part of the scrum in front of Lundqvist that resulted in the second goal, and Canadian television outlet CBC has numerous angles of the altercation. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/king_nhl_missed_obvious_kick_in_DPs3ko6eC7OAWK3mn0DKEK#ixzz1sxDL6Hjv
stevielegs
Tue Apr 24 2012 2:00 am EST
Am I the only one who is really pissed at Hank for his comments? How about "I saw that it was kicked in. From the ice. On the replays, you can see that it is kicked it. I would love to get a explanation how they could call that a goal". Let someone else say what everyone is thinking. Biron in nets for G7?
Ola
Tue Apr 24 2012 12:29 am EST
Finally aw a clip of the MDZ hit on Neil......it was a beautiful thing. I especially enjoyed Neil laying on the ice like he had been shot, then bitching a fit from the bench like the coward he is. Unlike Neil, MDZ checked his body and avoided his head. This bodes well heading to the next game. IMO, it is no coincidence that the night we quit putting up with their garbage, we won the game. Let's see more of the same on Thursday night.
Bob
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:58 pm EST
How about Boyle on Thursday?.....Any news?....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:56 pm EST
WILD... I was happy with the way Dubi played... he was solid defensively and he had more hits than he got credit for... KREIDER needs to get more ice time... I'd also like to see him on the PP over Mitchell... MF... I gave the word today... MZA has his cast off and if the Rangers make it to the 2nd Round, he should be available to them at some point... MESSIER would've also given him a facial while they were fighting for the puck along the boards :)
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:39 pm EST
MF - I come in from Memphis where i learned to talk the jive. When I get back to MSG be one less Buttman alive... Lets GO Rangers!!!!!
Jerry_Garcia
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:27 pm EST
Bye bye Hawks. On another from I'm gonna defend Cally's skill level as top six ... The guy got 29 goals in a dead-puck era. And that's damned good. Also ... Go Caps. I want no part of Philly coming off their win. Bryz might suck but he can get hot; I mean who the hell is Craig Anderson taking the Sens to a game seven?
Nick
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:26 pm EST
Blackhawk down.......4-0 Yotes......say goodbye to another dirty team
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:24 pm EST
Jerry G.... Its a job for "The Candyman"... Good morning Mr. Buttman, I see you're doing well, if I had me a shotgun, I'd bl;ow you straight to hell" Look out, look out, the Candymaaaaan,
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:21 pm EST
another link to listen to the King & other Ranger interviews from tonight.......http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:21 pm EST
Wildcard - I notice Kreider getting better by each shift. It's amazing what confidence will do for the Rangers. After they scored the first goal they where a different team. Thursday will be a mad house at MSG. If anybody sees the Buttwipe kick him in the head for me and make it look like an accident! But please don't injure him! Boy, I just hope Neal is OK after this Thursdays game, nobody wants to see a player get hurt.
Jerry_Garcia
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:15 pm EST
Rosizval just got boarded into the snack bar....He is bleeding and sprawled out on the ice
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:14 pm EST
Leave it to Rangers fans. They butch and bitch about not winning faceoffs, than Dubi goes 11-10 (52%) in the circle and they bitch about how he played. Well he got the faceoff wins you were all upset about after playing very little center and not getting a ton of faceoffs all year.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:09 pm EST
Did anyone else notice how Kreider got better by the shift after his goal. It's amazing what confidence will do for a young player...now he feels like he belongs...hopefully he can do it again next game. Also, hoe big is it that he scored on the road in an illimination game in only his 5th NHL game? Doesn't get much more heavy than that...good sign, and good sign from torts that with a min left he was out on the ice and in reality no goals were scored, just one goal in the mysticle world of NHL magic excelerating pucks.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:07 pm EST
Lets go Coyotes!
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:06 pm EST
MF: Hopefully Suaer will be healthy for next season... Not much news about him.... Nor about MZA for that matter..... and..."Get the Puck outta the woods!" :-)
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:04 pm EST
KIS i'll start baking
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:04 pm EST
NYStranger: Thank you....
RF4L
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:02 pm EST
Would be great to have a healthy Sauer!
MelvilleFred
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:01 pm EST
great game. horrible call on ottawa 2nd goal. i'll eat half a crow but rangers gotta win game 7 for me to eat the whole thing
KIS
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:59 pm EST
So many positives to takeaway from this game... except for Dubinksky.. Really impressed by the defense overall.. really played tight and didnt allow much room for the Sens to make plays...RIchards did it all tonight from both the leadershiop and skill department, something Chris Drury never was able to deliver... it was a HUGE win for the NYR organization..
schneidw
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:58 pm EST
If anybody didn't think there was a bias by those NHL fucks against the Rangers before, well tonight's 2nd Ottawa goal is the final and only piece of evidence you should need. If someone in NY sees that little fuck of commissioner in NY, please, please land a square one right in that pompous,arrogant, POS's face. I'm sure all the wallsters will pool there money together to bail you out. What a joke of aleague he has turned this league into. I hope I'm here when it comes around for that fucker. Enough about the obvious. I had good feeling about tonight's game. One thing that can't be overlooked was how we rolled the fourth line consistently and they held there own with anisimov there. Game 7 will be nuts in the garden. Kreider is gaining confidence and both him and Hageli on the ice creates alot of speed for us on the first two lines. I recall Kreiders speed creating 3 or 4 turnovers alone. With kreider playing this well, we have two legit scoring lines and good balance of size and grit on the lower lines. Hope can keep the momentum going. Nice balance on the lines tonight. Let's kick some sens ass and neil's ass in game 7!!
NCRanger
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:57 pm EST
mf: No it isn't... it's gamesmanship...
Z
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:56 pm EST
no RF4L it is not pro Canadian we are witnessing anti-NYR. Must be some deep seeded hatred in those asshole good old boys network who run this shit.
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:55 pm EST
Have to say, LOVED MDZ taking out that puke Neil. I hope he whispered in his ear 'that's for Boiler!' He gave that friggin' pussy a taste of his own medicine,... but really should have gotten his elbow up a little bit. He plastered him... and I hope he does it again in Game 7. As for the King - yeah, the whole world thought it was BS... even the pro-Sen announcers on NBC basically said it was no goal. When it came back as good, I think everyone was stunned. Did you see the King keep barking at the refs as he was congratulating the team after the win... priceless. I've never seen him so fired up. Have to agree... When that scumbag Neil can literally spear him out of the crease and kick the puck in for a goal, you really have to wonder WTF is going on. Roenick completely agreed with Hank - Milbury, that puss, tried to back the league and tow the line. JR would have none of it. LET'S GO RANGERS!
Z
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:52 pm EST
And will you guys please stop with the Canadian teams crap....the league is two thirds American owned and the damn president is an American who does his utmost to block adding Canadian based teams so he can put them in US markets where people would rather watch alligator hunting. Geeesh....
RF4L
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:52 pm EST
RF: Messier would have cross checked Neil in the teeth... I'd settle for a crosscheck on Neil just above his upper lip at the base of his nose.....
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:49 pm EST
If Neil in fact said that about MDZ, he should be fined, that's BS, and it is premeditation.....
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:49 pm EST
oh and throw in Caps beating Bruins too
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:49 pm EST
This would make me happy..... ---> Coyotes beat Hawks ------> Panthers beat Devils ------> Rangers destroy Sens on Thursday
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:47 pm EST
Hospo: No wonder they were gassed - that's what happens when you pay 3 minutes for 5 consecutive games! And why the hell dress Bickel if you're not gonna play him? Dress Scott instead so he can roam around for 3 minutes and scare the crap out of that punk Neil. BTW, why is Neil allowed to be in the King's face/crease/etc? That guy scored both Sen goals off his feet! Knock that ugly phuck over for crying out loud....
RF4L
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:45 pm EST
Henrik Lundqvist was fantastic, Derek Stepan played great as did the Rangers. Looked like the regular season. They finally stopped giving the Canadian fuckers respect! Thursday is our time to kick some mother fucken ass! Chris Kreider scored a nice snap shot off a great feed from Stepan.
Jerry_Garcia
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:45 pm EST
Broadway Hat- I give it to MDZ for plastering Neil at the end of the game.. waht a statement and momentum builder for Game 7 at MSG....
schneidw
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:44 pm EST
Neil is an arrogant punk who deserves to have an eye gouged out...
RF4L
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:44 pm EST
side note ....hope cindy crybaby is enjoying her vacation......
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:42 pm EST
Doesn't surprise me at all that Neil feels bold enough to make a statement like that one. He must feel incredibly empowered by not even getting a hearing after the dirty hit on Boyle.
STPB
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:42 pm EST
If Neil played for NYR he would be suspended and sent to anger management and finishing school for 6 months
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:39 pm EST
Rhet - Exactly, threat and permeditation...What else do they need?
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:38 pm EST
RF4L - Yes he did, And Stepan did just as much...both skill wise and physically (started last game)
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:38 pm EST
RF4L... You had me at offensively :) ...Pete... He needs to get fined and warned by the NHL... better yet, suspend him one game :)
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:36 pm EST
Neil about MDZ..."I'm sure I'll catch him with his head down..." Rupp needs to go after him.
pete
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:34 pm EST
Rhet: I missed an adjective in my leadership comment: I meant offensively. Cally's heart is undeniable but his talent level isn't true top 6 (IMO). The Rangers were desperate for someone to step up offensively and Richards clearly did. Finally.
RF4L
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:34 pm EST
Regrdingthe Refs themselves...I thought they ,made some bad calls on BOTH teams...and it's the same every night in every game...They suck..too many of them....The League, on the other hand, is corrupt!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:34 pm EST
Monk... here you go... channeling his inner Torts... Lundqvist Responds to Blown Goal Review in Game 6... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jba5oqvzURg
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:33 pm EST
OK show of hands, how many people thought Toronto was going to reverse that 2nd goal. What a shit for brains league that NHL is!
Jerry_Garcia
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:32 pm EST
MF - Just about everybody came to play tonight..well, except poor Bickel....OK, Does anybody know how long Rupp and Mitchel were on in that 3rd period shift? It felt like THRE MINUTES..I shut my eyes FIVE TIMES!..But damn if the ydidn't hav a chance or two AND keep them from scoring...and were they gassed!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:31 pm EST
Thank you Henrik and thank you Prust! The NHL is becoming a joke league!
MelvilleFred
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:30 pm EST
Sather tried to sign Neil.I'm glad Neil said no. Read this article on TSN if you want a laugh: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=394048 TSN's integrity is in question. It's as bad as when they had an interviewer ask Brad on July 1st: "What does it mean, being from PEI, to have the chance to sign with a Canadian team?"
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:30 pm EST
can't wait until Thursday night !! It's going to be fun ...GO RANGERS!!!!
94adistantmemory
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:29 pm EST
CHIN - Law of physics...A puck in motion, stays in motion, A puck at rest stays at rest...except in the crease of the New York Rangers
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:29 pm EST
Right when Prust dropped his gloves to challenge Chris Neil........Konopka swooped over and wanted to answer the bell but Neil threw his mitts down already.....pretty interesting...
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:28 pm EST
Awesome win, the so called secondary guys came to play.... Thought Stall elevated his play and has been improving each game.... Hope he's getting the cobb-webbs out.... Well we got 3 periods of hockey, yeah baby.... Kudos to all you Lurking Wallsters that are posting.... Lets Go Rangers !!!
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:27 pm EST
Holy crap, Anthony HOPKINS said "Lets Go Rangers"?!!! ..Had to be Queens Park...!!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:26 pm EST
Hey, Monk! Good to see ya!
JFC31
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:26 pm EST
According to NHL.com Neil's foot didn't touch the puck.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:25 pm EST
too bad ron artest didnt hit chris neal in the face with his elbow
docjay
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:25 pm EST
Loved the way tough guy Neil milked it for all it was worth after Zo knocked him on his ass! Then he's full of piss & vinegar shouting from the bench with that dumb-as, toothless mouth of hs and then spouting about getting Zo back! Gotta love guys who can dish it out and can't take it. And whoever mad that call in Toronto can go to hell! As Anthony Hopkins said in "Legends of the Fall"....SCREW 'EM!! LET'S GO RANGERS! 'Night all!
JFC31
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:25 pm EST
What I wonder now is...who investigates the league?
FerociousMonk94
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:25 pm EST
Mike Smith is playing absolutely out of his mind right now for Phoenix.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:24 pm EST
cnparda... I saw that, they were desperately trying to get them even... what a joke.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:21 pm EST
Even funnier then the bullshit goal was on CBC they briefly put the score as 3-3. Only a Canadian team can get two goals on one kick.
cnparda
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:21 pm EST
CHIN - Nah, gotta stay true my man!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:21 pm EST
COMARK... I can't believe he was jawing at MDZ about it from the bench... he did the exact same thing to Boyle and gave him a concussion... I hate that guy.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:20 pm EST
OK, that's NBCSN (old Versus)
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:20 pm EST
Can breathe a big sigh of relief. Great road win for the boys. I think krieder's gonna be something special.
barto
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:20 pm EST
You know, I had the Canadian announcers on NHSN, whoever they are, and they were pretty fair...questiuoning both the stick/spear to The King...and the kicking...as well as the cross check deliverd to Prust afer he was called for one..It's the freaking NHL...LIke i said before, if the Ranges don't make it, I hope it's PANTHERS--COYOTES in the finals
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:19 pm EST
HOSPO: Too funny. You should try breathing. Your typing is getting worse right now, which I previously thought was impossible :)
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:19 pm EST
CM that's intent to injure, just saying that.....the nhl will say he was mad, he didn't meani it
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:19 pm EST
NYStranger... too bad you didn't see Jeremy Roenick talk about it, he was all over... he hates Milbury too.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:18 pm EST
COL MARK: What a douchebag. But it's fine, NEIL could take MDZ out and he'd be smacked on the wrist by this idiotic league. DUNCAN KEITH told SEDIN he'd go after him on the ice and then knocked him out, and all he got was 5 regular season games. Premeditated, concussing a superstar who missed the first few games of the playoffs (and the last 10 games of the reg season). That's where all this madness started, with the whiff on that suspension.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:18 pm EST
As a team the Rangers said Prust fighting Neil got them really fired up... This late goal will only help in that respect for Game 7... "us against them" (The Sens, the refs and the League) kind of thing.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:17 pm EST
CHIN - Ah, for once, I stand corrected..:)
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:17 pm EST
no real mention on TV of how Neil pushes Hank out of the crease with the spear end of his stick to get position to kick the puck in for a "good NHL" goal.
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:16 pm EST
CM - And he should be fined for that already...premeditiation...but the league will do squat...well, aftet they fine the KING 50K
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:16 pm EST
DUGSTER, CHIN....Cheers! Forgot to pick up anything for the game tonight so had to go with the bottle of Courvoisier in the cabinet. Worked out well. Maybe it's good luck. Try it again on Thurs ;)
FerociousMonk94
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:16 pm EST
The best part of HANK saying what he said is that he can only be fined $2,500 per the CBA (unless there are different fines for verbal comments, the max for anything on the ice is $2,500). TORTS says 'fuck' and he's fined more than most people's yearly salaries.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:15 pm EST
Chris Neal on MDZ: "I'm sure I'll catch him with his head down one of these times!"
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:15 pm EST
And, I rarely say this, WILD might have been right...The OOttawa coach may hve been too big for his briitches by putting the Swede in when he didn;t have too and also Alfreddsson , who didn't do squat...I'll take another game of that....
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:14 pm EST
On MSG, Henrik Lundqvist said, “I just think it’s an absolute joke. I am going to freeze the puck, he pushes me out and kicks the puck. It scares me that they can call that a goal. Someone wanted them back in the game for sure. It upsets me but we played a really good game and deserved this one.”
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:14 pm EST
KING HENRIK.....nice fu to the nhl.......
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:13 pm EST
On MSG, interviewing Lundquist, The King says," I dont know how they could call this a goal, its obvious someone "upstairs" wants them back into the game." ....... Here comes the fine...... What a disgrace.....
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:13 pm EST
FRED - Probabaly, but they made us proud tonight....! ...INCONCLUSIVE my ass...Freaking Ray Charles or Barry Ashbee would have seen it!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:12 pm EST
FerociousMonk94--HEY BRO...NICE TO SEE YOU BACK,,,,,,lERtS Go rAnGeRs!!!!!!
thedugster
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:11 pm EST
try watching the game on CBC here in Canada....Bob Cole and Gary Galley are so pro Ottawa it is sickening . I was never so happy to see us win a game....and they try to make it seem like all of Canada is behing this Senator team . Yeah , right , like the Laff fans are rooting for Ottawa...or Montreal fans...oh , and they both said the puck definitely wasn't kicked in . No , it picked up speed and rolled in the net on its own ....assholes
94adistantmemory
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:11 pm EST
show the other camera angles, that was off that pos skate
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:11 pm EST
MONK: They just showed it on NHL Network. I'm sure they'll be showing it plenty in the next hour.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:11 pm EST
DOCJAY - Here..Here..SCREW the freakin NHL...Sather needs to pay every fine..and get a few more for blasting this clusterfuck of a league..
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:10 pm EST
sjw----Sorry brotha My wife and her family are from waterloo,,,,,,its was more for them as they read the board and break my balls,,,,,,,,Hospo---TONIGHT WE STOOD UP AND PLAYED TEAM TOUGH,,,we looked timid,,,thursday Rupp needs to engauge,,,,,,,,,,and set the same tone,,,,,,,the refs should be ashamed of theirselves,,,,,simply horrible calls on both teams tonight,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LeTs gO RaNgErS
thedugster
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:10 pm EST
Thanks RHET...OK I thought there was an interview. But his "FU" was worth the price of admission.
FerociousMonk94
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:10 pm EST
The official word from the NHL was that the goal was inconclusive... They credited the goal to SPEZZA, but no word on how the puck broke the Law of Physics and picked up speed after a kicking motion by Chris Neil.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:09 pm EST
Well we're perfectly positioned to have our hearts ripped out Thursday night!!
MelvilleFred
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:09 pm EST
And, I really gotta give Kudos to STEPAN, HAGLIN, AA, guys who I quetioned and fianlly stepped up physically to the PO challenge (I know, Hags never had a chance earleir)..better late than never.....And RICHARDS too...fianlly...Even Gabby played Ranger hoceky..but damn, he's gotta score
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:08 pm EST
a big fu to gary bettman , brendan shanahahan , the refs in this series , and the nhl in general . and the best way to send that message is for the rangers to win the stanley cup. you would think the mickey mouse nhl would want its flagship ny franchise to suceed but instead they have been screwing us for the past 20 years . compare that to how the nba operates and you see why the nhl is largly ignored by the media , even in a city like ny .
docjay
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:07 pm EST
Monk, I still don't see it posted.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:07 pm EST
NYStranger - Neil is a dirty scumbag..an Avery type baby...but he's big and God I wish we had one on this team,,But since we don't,,,He needs to go down...again.......Hoping BOYLE can make it back
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:06 pm EST
OOPS... wrong one.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:06 pm EST
man with the way things have been going with the league and Rangers fines....oh man.
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:06 pm EST
Easy there Dugster , this good old canadian has been a Ranger fan since the late '60's .. and there are several other canadian ranger fans around... Blast the league/officals, because they deserve it for such a horseshit goal.. they blew it twice, on the interference and the kick in.....
sjw
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:05 pm EST
MONK.... http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2012/04/23/watch-henrik-lundqvist-has-some-words-at-the-end-of-the-game/
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:04 pm EST
"someone wants them back in the game...obviously....there is no other explanation."............Henrik quote
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:04 pm EST
Someone please post the link of the Lundqvist interview...I doubt MSG will show it. It was good to see some moxie from our favorite Swede. Maybe this will get him into the series.
FerociousMonk94
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:03 pm EST
Hospo what I can't stand about Neil is he gets hit with a solid check and he drops like a brick. Total frigin crybaby actor. and i guess I was wrong on the worth of the Prust fight! I'll be grad to to wrong like that more often, eh?
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:03 pm EST
Chin... it was on NBCS after the game.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:03 pm EST
JFC - Bingo on KREIDER..and looks like the Rangers found a line with him, Cally and, Stepan.....That's right, Gabby's tunr in Game 7
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:02 pm EST
I watched the interview on NBC sports (the old versus) down here in NC.
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:02 pm EST
hospo i agree
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:01 pm EST
In the locker room , after the game, Henrik basically said that someone , be it the league or the refs wanted to close the gap in the game....and that the call was horrible because of the interference and the kicking of the puck into the net.....Basically Henrik had to bite his tongue because he was saying every single thing that every Rangers fan is saying about the play.....
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:00 pm EST
DUGSTER - I was thinkingthe same about stone hands PRUST and his fight with Neil...I was damn proud of him when he did it...Obviously, so was the team!!!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:00 pm EST
I was just watching Jeremy Roenick and he was hot about that goal... totally agreed with Lundqvist.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:00 pm EST
STEVIE - I WASN"T WRONG anbput Stepan..and NMeiter were you....but now we are! He found something to regain his mojo......And Like I sad I was gonna keep on riding him untoil he pulled a Del Aero or Boytano on me!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:59 pm EST
TRADE: What channel did you see the Hank tirade on? I didn't see it on MSG unless I missed it.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:58 pm EST
Dubi is doing blow.. Can't you see it!
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:58 pm EST
RHET - yeah, i agree, but that is a hard call to make ...The other call by the League when they get to look at it 50 times in slow motion is another story...total mongolian cluster fuck disgrace of a LEAGUE....What did the KING say...SATHER needs to talke his CIgar out of his buttt and stand up for his god damn team!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:58 pm EST
Faith, hope and Prust going after Neil.......thank you Brandon,,,,that fight changed the whole game,,,we need to keep hitting them,,,Go Kreider, Go Richards,,Go DeLZ CLOBBERING NEIL......great win,,,Fuck Ottawa, Fuck Neil, Fuck the refs,Fuck Canada!!!!!!lEtS Go rAnGeRs!!!!!
thedugster
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:57 pm EST
Hospo I'm happy to be wrong about the kid, and you about Stepan.....
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:57 pm EST
I'll be the first to say it - Gaborik scores a pair of goals in game 7.
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:56 pm EST
Great game by the Rangers!! Man, I was VERY impressed by Chris Kreider....he was a factor out there. He doesn't just have end-to-end speed, he has QUICKNESS and explosive acceleration....from 0 to 60 in a heartbeat. With that kind of speed he not only creates chances, he pressures the defence big time when he forechecks. This was a real gut check for the boys and they came through....blocking shots, taking the body, playing with controlled desperation, and The King was there when he had to be. And now, thanks to a great regular season, we go back to NY for game 7! WOO-HOO! LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
JFC31
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:56 pm EST
Man ..so much to process...CHIN -- Was thinbking the same about DUBI..Can he stand up...Has he lost all hockey sense and skill...OTHO, he workerd and played his ass off...
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:56 pm EST
Anyone else see that Henrik interview in the lockeroom after the game? holy moly
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:55 pm EST
Henrik gonna get fined.....I never seen him hot like that.....reminds me of Richter in 1994 when he charged the refs
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:54 pm EST
Wow....henrik calls out the refs and league!!! he was fuckin livid!!
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:54 pm EST
Hospo... the refs on the ice could've easily called goaltender interference and didn't.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:53 pm EST
It's the Rangers best game in months! From beginning to end a solid game... even that goal that wasn't a goal at the end... Where has Marian Gaborik gone? ...Kreider with the Game Winner.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:53 pm EST
And IT WASN't THE REFS..it's the GOD DAMN NHL that reviewed that goal...How they don't call it a no-goal is beyonf me ..The Corrution in the fucking NHL from Bettman..to Scumbag Shanahan..to even ex Ranger Kris KIng and anybody/....A GIANT FUCK YOU!!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:52 pm EST
The real travesty with them calling that goal legit was that Peel didn't see the kicking motion to begin with. I guess they ruled that you couldn't tell if he actually made contact with the puck or not. Peel should have waved it off to begin with...not to mention Neil's stick is just pushing Hank right out of the crease
RDW
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:51 pm EST
I LIED....The Rangers got gives us three more periods to be proud off...Those last two periods was the type of hockey that E AWLAYS talks about.....they pressed..they forechecked...they were hard to beat........And HERE IS WHY THEY WON---After three games watching in my man cave..I shut the dame TV off...went upstairs in me sons room and watcehd it on his little TV....Know where I'll be for game 7!!!!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:51 pm EST
limbo, welcome out of the shadows, with your descriptive use of adjectives, I respectfully request that you post more often.... after all, where else can you read about hockey & "hairy berries" in the same place ?? :->)
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:50 pm EST
nice try by toronto trying to get the game tied
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:50 pm EST
Twitterverse is alive with Lundqvist still hot about that goal after the game... as well he should be.... Sather better fly to TO for a pow wow with the idiots in the Home Office.... the refs tried to screw us tonight.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:50 pm EST
Great effort and comeback win by NYR but this ice tilting is become beyond sickening. The officials and the NHL should be ashamed of themselves but they are too arrogant for that to ever be.
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:50 pm EST
This league blows!!!! Rangers survive!
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:50 pm EST
Toronto doing there best to keep a canadian team in the playoffs.
shonuff
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:49 pm EST
What did Hank yell towards the corner and then to the camera at the end of the game?
chet94
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:49 pm EST
Can't wait to hear the explanation on that one.....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:49 pm EST
NEED 13 MORE WINS !
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:48 pm EST
Great win by the Rangers.... "Brian Boyle, this Buds for you!" ....... Where the hell are AA, & Stepan on a regular basis ??? when they play hard, I dont want to trade them..... Kudo's to Krieder....... It aint over yet..... The Garden wil be insane on Thursday..... LETS GO RANGERS !!!!
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:48 pm EST
Hank doesn't freak out easily....We need to injure Neal....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:47 pm EST
.......who the fuck is reviewing things in Toronto.....you have got to be shitting me!!
MelvilleFred
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:47 pm EST
I don't post that often...and don't USUALLY believe in conspiracy theories...but...THAT WAS THE WORST FUCKING CALL I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!! How they hell they called that a goal is a FUCKING DISGRACE. This is a joke of a league.
limbo
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:46 pm EST
What a win....Great game Rangers!....I am still mad at that goal....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:46 pm EST
FU@K YOU REFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pete
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:45 pm EST
ONE MORE HILL TO CLIMB BABY
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:45 pm EST
please not the ranger 6 goalie trick. hussle to the puck . beat them to it !
doct
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:45 pm EST
BULL SHIT... Lundqvist was interfered with and the puck was kicked in.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:44 pm EST
Kreider got goaltender interference for breathing on Anderson...
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:44 pm EST
Hayward is a disgrace
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:44 pm EST
Neil goes in the crease we have to break his face....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:44 pm EST
If this is a goal the fix is def in
DCIGolfer
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:43 pm EST
How come Neil was allowed to put his stick into Hank's waist and push him across the crease?
chet94
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:43 pm EST
Come on he kicked it in!
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:43 pm EST
please no more "turtle" !!! ever ever ever ever !! the right way my a..!
doct
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:42 pm EST
I agree PJ that was totally kicked in.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:41 pm EST
Kicked in by Neil
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:38 pm EST
Looks like Neil is ok, too bad, but great 3rd period.
pete
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:36 pm EST
Neil is the ultimate baby. Live by the sword!
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:36 pm EST
Is it me or has DUBI been on the ground more than standing this series? Bizarre. Love the MDZ hit, welcome to the series. NEIL is a lunatic. He's like DUBI when he loses it, except he's actually scary and might hurt someone.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:35 pm EST
Me too.
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:34 pm EST
Rhetoric...yes,Richards came back.
pete
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:34 pm EST
Pete the announcers said Anisimov and their never wrong... that's why John Scott's playing.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:34 pm EST
I could throw up from this stress
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:34 pm EST
That's Karma!
chet94
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:34 pm EST
It was MDZ and it was clean
pete
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:34 pm EST
Has Richards come back?
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:33 pm EST
That a boy AA......put Neil down like the dog he is!
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:33 pm EST
oh boy , the famous "ranger turtle " hold on to you seatbelts !
doct
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:33 pm EST
What do you call a guy that can't stand? ......Neil
nyfans
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:33 pm EST
ANISIMOV brought down Neil... poor baby,
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:32 pm EST
Neil is DOWN!!!!!!
pete
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:32 pm EST
BYE NEIL
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:31 pm EST
Mr. Myagi is working wonders on the Rangers bench.
pete
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:30 pm EST
not so sure i wouldn't rather have erickson than mdz. mdz really struggling.
doct
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:27 pm EST
I am feeling these blocked shots....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:26 pm EST
Keep it up King! Your playoff choking tab is unfair, keep proving it.
pete
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:26 pm EST
No more F'ing penalties....It is kiliing me...
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:26 pm EST
HENRIK
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:23 pm EST
Where was the hold? Looked like a dive to me :)
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:23 pm EST
Bad shift....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:21 pm EST
I only pull out the graves sweater on special occasions.
barto
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:21 pm EST
The hysterical comment was in relation to the John Scott comment
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:20 pm EST
That is fuckin hysterical
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:19 pm EST
Keep pushing...Great shift by AA....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:19 pm EST
you can cut off Cally's hand and the guy would still come out for the next shift......what a huge heart
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:13 pm EST
Ottawa just announced that John Scott got that penalty.
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:13 pm EST
KILL IT OFF, BAD CALL
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:11 pm EST
A penalty call already....Feds....BS
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:10 pm EST
It must be killing the NBC announcers that they've had to talk about the Rangers for so much of the period instead of their beloved Senators.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:08 pm EST
Need Cally to have a big third....He has been a beast killing penalties....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:07 pm EST
RF4L... that's not fair to Cally... he's played big all year long and carried this team at many points of the season... taking nothing away from Richards, but he is the PPQB and Cally isn't.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:05 pm EST
Let me finish LOL ... DON"T F"IN L:AY BACK, BE SMART, BUT GO FOR #4
sjw
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:04 pm EST
@Nick, good to know there's at least one other Ranger fan in Philly, i moved here about a year and a half ago from NYC and seeing the Flyers logo everywhere makes me ill. hope the Rangers sustain pressure in the third, just hope they remember there's no point for a tie tonight.
TrueBlue10
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:03 pm EST
Also, no coincidence the team is doing better and they are getting in Neil's face. Finally....
RF4L
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:03 pm EST
Let me echo
sjw
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:03 pm EST
No shell we have to keep pushing it....They are going to get some PP's anyway....Get this done and head on home....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:02 pm EST
Did asshole Neil wake up Richards? Wow, what a game by him. Directing the PP and carrying it over to the bench....nice to see...someone needs (needed) to take over the leadership of this team. Try as he might, Callly doesn't have the skill to do what Richards has done so far.
RF4L
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:02 pm EST
Derek stepan 1 goal, 2 assists... the kid woke up at the right time... and Richards scoring the big goals when the team needs it the most... wow... keep it going in the 3rd.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:59 pm EST
please do not go into a New York Jets prevent defense for the 3rd period
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:59 pm EST
Bob: Kreider and Stepan skated together on the same line a few years back at the World Junior Tournament
jnyr
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:59 pm EST
TRADE - Love the Doors reference "Kreider's on the Storm" Wish I thought of that!
nyfans
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:57 pm EST
Well now, a nice turnaround. Kreider and Stepan hitting it off.
Bob
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:57 pm EST
Gotta nail this one down! And if Kreider proves the real deal next year wow do we need that kind of talent boost.
Nick
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:56 pm EST
rhet0ric - that was the Rangers. I'm wondering who the team that played the preceding 6 periods was, :).
ScMePlz
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:55 pm EST
MONK: Your lack of sarcasm is terrifying me. But I guess we're winning so keep it up.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:55 pm EST
...who was that team in the 2nd period? Thank god.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:54 pm EST
"Hair on his berries!" ROFLOL!
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:54 pm EST
If they go into defensive shell I'll puke!!!!
MelvilleFred
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:54 pm EST
What a boost this will be for Kreider if this series goes positively. If this team gets its act together and he takes a minimal role going forward (as he should), he can blast into next reg season. Big WOW factor in that period. Keep it coming guys..
FerociousMonk94
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:54 pm EST
OK, that's ONE! Give us ONE MORE!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:53 pm EST
There is a hockey god
E
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:52 pm EST
Yes young Stepan has some hair on his berries now....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:52 pm EST
There is a g-d
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:51 pm EST
Get ready to kill some penalties in the third....Need to get that next goal....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:51 pm EST
Great shot by KREIDER, but it's pretty amazing the different player we've seen in the last two games when looking at STEPAN. He's becoming a man. Love it. Great pass.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:51 pm EST
Kreider's on the storm!!!
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:51 pm EST
GREAT PERIOD
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:50 pm EST
KREIDER!!!!!!
MelvilleFred
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:50 pm EST
Don't let up.....Need more
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:50 pm EST
Kreider is a keeper!
nyfans
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:50 pm EST
KREIDER RULES!!!
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:49 pm EST
Welcome to New York Kreider !!!!
RangerGraham
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:48 pm EST
OMG..EVEN STRENGTH GOAL
DOUBLEN
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:48 pm EST
KREIDER!!!!!!!!
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:48 pm EST
THE KID
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:47 pm EST
Richards is carrying his team on his back right now. Need him to be huger
E
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:47 pm EST
Needs: Big ugly, mean defenceman.......large grinding forwards. 4 or 5 forwards can pack their bags. Positives: Rangers are a young team but lack grit. We are seeing it this series
RangerGraham
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:47 pm EST
thanks refs
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:46 pm EST
MDZ blows
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:46 pm EST
warm up the seats on the plane, brad!
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:46 pm EST
Like I said about Richards....GOAL!!!!!
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:46 pm EST
PJ...Bash someone else..maybe they will score :)
DOUBLEN
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:46 pm EST
Richards, having a great game !
RangerGraham
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:45 pm EST
MONK IS THE LUCKY CHARM!
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:45 pm EST
RICHHARDS
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:43 pm EST
Richards having a horrible game in my opinion....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:43 pm EST
MONK---good to see you back pal. Time for us to finally assert ourselves in this series.
Bob
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:42 pm EST
We get our best chances on the kill. Sad that we have to put Mitchell out to take a D zone faceoff on the PK, but it's actually a good move. He's probably our best at this point. Time to make that douche Foligno pay. Here we go boys.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:41 pm EST
LOOKING BETTER
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:39 pm EST
we are playing Ottawa and the refs! Great, how many goals will that need to be?
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:39 pm EST
.....just threw my lucky 1994 puck into the woods.......the calls tonight are rediculous but then again we put ourselves into this position.
MelvilleFred
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:38 pm EST
Bad penalty by Kreider....Have to see the replay....Looked like he barely touched him....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:37 pm EST
You got it, Monk. Man I was hoping for a run this year so maybe it will still happen. Down here in Philly I'm inundated with all things Flyer and Giroux ...
Nick
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:34 pm EST
We are getting PP's but they just missed a crosscheck on Karlsson....Keep it going Rangers....Seeing some desperation finally...
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:34 pm EST
Likewise, Nick,,,hockey only now. Just hope there's some hockey to talk about for a while..
FerociousMonk94
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:31 pm EST
Hey Monk good to see you here ol' sparring partner. Hope all is well.
Nick
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:30 pm EST
Hey, we're back in the game, could be the turning point in the series our way, that we're looking for... Lets hope so.... We even won an o-zone face off afterward.... woohoo
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:30 pm EST
You guys all know that I am at work and can't watch, so you are yanking my chain saying that we actually scored a goal. NN---I am surprised that you would be involved in such treachery.
Bob
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:29 pm EST
I'm not watching because at age 60 and 43 years of Ranger fandom I have little blood pressure left to give. But I swear I can piece together the game reading all your posts!
Nick
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:27 pm EST
There we go!!!
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:27 pm EST
Was that really a goal or was I imagining that .
DOUBLEN
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:27 pm EST
And as I say that..
FerociousMonk94
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:27 pm EST
sSTEPAN STEP ON THEM
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:26 pm EST
ranger have to find away to pass to someone on ht emove with speed .. gaborik is getting caught from behind by everyone !! so much for his great speed ..kreider rangers best forward. mdz almost can't be put on ice, anyone see him standing doing nothing on goal .
doct
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:26 pm EST
This is the longest playoff scoring drought I can remember that had nothing to do with the opposing goalie. They are just not generating quality chances.
FerociousMonk94
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:23 pm EST
This is effing pathetic. I mean, really. Have they packed it in already? This team is looking like the 1974 team that choked away the series....and the cup to the Flyers.
Bob
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:23 pm EST
This is like watching a nightmare on a repeating loop, over and over again. Sens could have taken at least 4 penalties this game that went uncalled. But every Rangers misdeed has gone punished.
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:22 pm EST
The whole team is playing scared...Look at Henrik! I am pretty sure we are toast
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:22 pm EST
A must penalty kill....The lack of offense is just killing me....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:19 pm EST
Girardi has been terrible with his breakout passes tonight...
RDW
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:16 pm EST
Dave Maloney calling the league out, saying the got it backwards
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:13 pm EST
BTW, does anyone know who led all defensemen in scoring this year?
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:08 pm EST
Bob it's what he does when they don't score.
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:08 pm EST
Trade- Think what you want, but I guarantee that Richards cares more about winning than the money. Players don't get paid in the playoffs anyway. I understand we are frustrated with the team, but I'm not convinced they are phoning it in just yet.
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:07 pm EST
Right now.....Henrik is sitting in his lockeroom stall and thinking, "What the fugg......these guys gonna score a goal for me?"
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:06 pm EST
10 minutes into the game and the lines get all messed up again. Torts has been an epic fail in the playoffs.
Bob
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:06 pm EST
it' s not over til it's over......relax........stick your head out of the window, and say..........
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:06 pm EST
It's one period. There is no quit right now. Ottawa scored. 1-goal is not insurmountable and if it is then there is the character and the skill of the NYR when it counts most. And I can get on with my summer of pissing and moaning and the NYR real cup day: UFA day. Here that Parise? If we just had Parise.... Ugh... Where does this lunacy of a ride end because I am motion sick and i want to get off
E
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:06 pm EST
I think i am gonna root for the Panthers once the Rangers get shut out tonight. Tomorrow i am gonna run to the Dollar store and pick up a few plastic rats to throw around the house
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:05 pm EST
This is really like a bad dream after the season we had....Just don't get it....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:05 pm EST
I'm not ready to jump off a bridge, but I've got one picked out. Which is actually an accomplishment being in Colorado. Nasty Net crashing hockey is what the doctor ordered, now we just need to see if the Rangers can fill the script in time for the second period.
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:04 pm EST
if the rangers lose....Dubi should wear a ski mask on the plane ride home.....since he stole about $3MM from Dolan
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:03 pm EST
Torts doesn't have an answer. He either makes no adjustments or makes ridiculous adjustments.
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:03 pm EST
I think alot of the high paid athletes figure that they are gonna get paid no matter what......For example, Gabby and Richards.....they gonna make 7, 8, 9 million or whatever the # is......so win or lose.....its like, "yeah...that was a tough loss......tell the valet to warm up the seats on my Benz......see ya late summer, boys"
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:02 pm EST
"We are defined by what we do in the playoffs" Coaches too Torts!!
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:02 pm EST
Not to mention all of the PP time we lose when losing every damn faceoff....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:02 pm EST
They really appear to have nothing left in the tank....emotionally or physically. I do think tiring your guys out/not playing 4 lines in games 2-5 is a coaching error!
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:01 pm EST
Tucc = invisible! ;-)
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:01 pm EST
Anisimov-Mitchell-Fedotenko on the power play? Has Tortorella surrendered?
Bob
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:00 pm EST
Rupp and dubi should be parked in front. Wtf Mitchell and hands as hard as a tank. 40 to lgr lgr.
barto
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:00 pm EST
Gaborik = invisible!
Tucc
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:59 pm EST
This Rangers team has simply not stepped up when it has most counted. 40 minutes left to show some balls.
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:58 pm EST
Some where wearing a perfectly pressed Versace suit, Sean Avery has an evil smirk on his face
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:57 pm EST
All griping aside...just give us two periods of balls to the wall hockey to be proud of
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:57 pm EST
...ok, so having watched the 1st period I think we all agree there is NO way we're winning this game....this team reminds me of those good teams in the '70's that weren't fast or tough enough....we're done!
MelvilleFred
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:56 pm EST
Feds has become pretty much useless in my opinion....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:56 pm EST
Gaborik = invisible!
Tucc
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:55 pm EST
MItchel on the PP is an abomination and sums up this series to date...instead of putting a banger a masher they put a tutu wearing twit.....
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:54 pm EST
Callahan buries the chance he had 9 out of 10 times.....We are so tight we can't execute...
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:54 pm EST
Mitchell actually had the best pass/scoring opp on the PP. I still don't think he should be out there though....we are playing like pussies in front of our net and theirs
RDW
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:53 pm EST
PJ: I'm fine with FEDS. He's a tank and actually stands in front. He can't finish, but at least he's a big body. Enough of prancers in front.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:53 pm EST
WAy to play like you life depedned on it Rangers? I swear to God it looks like the main goal is still nbot to get scored on///Forget about pressuring the Senators..or, god forbid, stoming the creas nad net with our strapping forwards....Where's ol barrel chest Stifficus Stevens when you need him....But reeally, just to nice and too weak up to this point...
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:53 pm EST
I love cally but we need some leadership from our Captain!! And nastiness from Richards and Gabby
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:52 pm EST
If John "AHL" Mitchell continues to get the lion's share of PP minutes. We are FUKT!
DCIGolfer
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:52 pm EST
I simply don't understand MITCHELL still on the PP. Hell, throw RUPP out there with FEDS and put them both in front like Ottawa did. Or at least KREIDER, HAGS or DUBI. Awful.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:52 pm EST
Way to go Torts....Mitchell and Feds just killed our PP....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:52 pm EST
disgusting display of uninspired disjointed soft perimeter hockey. Nice job boys!!!
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:52 pm EST
Poor Henrik.....you deserve better , good buddee!
TradeStar28
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:51 pm EST
Get 2 men in front of the net!
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:50 pm EST
need to win an effin face off too!!!!
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:49 pm EST
Another powerless play!
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:47 pm EST
screw neil, and mc too
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:47 pm EST
Best Rangers play was Prust hitting Karlson late. When is a Rangers gonna bump Anderson or get in his face a little?
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:47 pm EST
NY - Did I say ot helped? I said I was proud of him shpowing fight unlike the other forwards...
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:45 pm EST
Hospo how did that help other than take him off the ice for 5 mins?
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:45 pm EST
But Kreider still needs to get his nose dirty..don't back awy from scrums.....Typicla Ranger this sereis...No strong enough...Not nasty enough
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:45 pm EST
Good for PRUST hanging in there. NEIL has about 30 pounds on him and is a tank. Would be nice to see RUPP or BICKEL get at NEIL later. He won't be waving to the crowd mid fight if he fights someone his size. You know what else would be nice? A goal.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:44 pm EST
when is someone gonna run that punk Neil. That fight just backfired on Prust. Rupp needs to break his leg. This has been awful so far.
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:44 pm EST
OK, I can be proud if that..Way to go Prust....Hope the other pnasies follow his lead..
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:44 pm EST
That should have been Rupp....Give Prust credit though....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:41 pm EST
Kreider looks good tonight, like he belongs.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:41 pm EST
It's too tight to open it up and just go for it but damn this team is never going to come back from 2-0 against this Ottawa team.
E
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:40 pm EST
No sence of urgency or desperation!
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:39 pm EST
I don't know if I want to watch the rest of this game. They do so much wrong and refuse to correct it. It's hard to watch.
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:38 pm EST
We are taking no crap but still no offense at all....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:38 pm EST
PA.rangersfan...Don;t read it pal and open your eyes,,,,...Greap PP...You know you are deep when Mitchell is on the PP...Love the traffic in front of the net! What a bunch of prnacers the forwards are.....Look at gabby..turns away at soon as the whistle blows....no extra hit or dig like everybody else in the POs.....Looks like they are playing for the tie..even down 1-0
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:37 pm EST
Stop blaming the refs. We aren't scoring and we are taking stupid penalties. Is that the ref's fault? We\re playing like shit and deserve to be losing. Some of you sound like fucking Canucks fans.
MC
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:36 pm EST
I think you're right!
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:36 pm EST
LGR: When hell freezes over
DOUBLEN
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:36 pm EST
Rangers will win. I just put on my 94 graves shirt.
barto
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:35 pm EST
I think Graves was the last Ranger to score rebound goals
DOUBLEN
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:35 pm EST
When are the Rangers going to put a man in front of the net?
LetsGoRangers
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:34 pm EST
don't need a pp, boston didn't have one last year....
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:33 pm EST
Mitchell is a skating disaster....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:33 pm EST
what the hell does Torts see in Mitchell on the PP? He nearly had another turnover.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:29 pm EST
NN...Agreed...Drives me crazy...
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:29 pm EST
Why are they never in position to get a rebound..
DOUBLEN
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:28 pm EST
Trip on Richards no call...Even Hayward agreed....Well now we get a PP....Needs to work tonight....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:28 pm EST
If there was ever a tie for a PPG!! Now is it
rngrsans
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:28 pm EST
Please put Kreider in the crease on the PP.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:27 pm EST
Hospo.., give us all a break already!!!That was far from call worthy and you know it.
pa.rangersfan
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:26 pm EST
HOSPO... Rupp really didn't do anything penalty worthy.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:25 pm EST
We had looked good before the penalty...
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:25 pm EST
I'm still trying to figure out where there was roughing.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:25 pm EST
Bull shit...a selfish and moronic penalty by a worhtlessp piece of dung..Yep, We need Rupp for his vet presence and he comes up big in the POs....Hah!!!!! Way to clear the crease guys....
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:24 pm EST
Thanks for fixing the game, stripes...what a fucking joke this league is...
tdchi
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:24 pm EST
nhl need a Canadian team in the playoffs , so the refs help out.
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:23 pm EST
let 2 guys camp in front, ng
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:22 pm EST
Wasn't much by Rupp but a killer goal...
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:20 pm EST
Disgraceful call. Let them play.
chinstrap
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:18 pm EST
no balls neil, never drops them......PUNK.......
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:10 pm EST
I'll be honest..not expecting much from this team tonight. They will just keep shooting into Anderson's pads or logo.
DOUBLEN
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:10 pm EST
PJ.., thanks, I'll give that a shot.
pa.rangersfan
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:08 pm EST
PA....Turn down the volume....I have 1050 on as I am watching NBC....
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:06 pm EST
well.., already pissed enough to kill after just listening to the tools doing the game on vs.!
pa.rangersfan
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:03 pm EST
...and while we're at it, someone hit Alfredsson the way the Flyers hit C Crosby last night.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:01 pm EST
Stevie... has to be Rupp and he needs to pummel his ass... TD... I'm really worried about you lately brother!
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:00 pm EST
have to agree with duguay, somebody has to drop them with neil in the first 5 minutes.
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 5:57 pm EST
Dubi... don't worry about scoring, just hit everything in sight... and forecheck, forecheck, forecheck!!! ...LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 5:54 pm EST
In warmups... Hags-Richards-Gabs... Kreider-Stepan-Cally... Tank-Dubi-Prust... Ani-Mitchell-Rupp... Looks like Torts is giving me what I want... GO HARD OR GO HOME!!!
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 5:48 pm EST
TD: Don't do it.... A/A & N/A are for quitters! You're not a quitter! :-). Let's Go Rangers!!!!
mf
Mon Apr 23 2012 5:47 pm EST
GIT-R-DONE
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 5:46 pm EST
rehab is for quitters
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 5:46 pm EST
Hospo: that's kind of what I was getting at...it's the timing and situations that they need to get better, but I'm tired of the "they win no face offs" stuff...it's not what's happening on the ice. Now they are not good enought on the PP or at times in their own zone...but they do win faceoffs...on another note KREIDER is warming up with Step and Cally...and Dubi is in Boyles spot...so he can settle into his D first role and offense will not be he primary concern tonight...that means he probably scores...
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 5:45 pm EST
td.., wow dude, that's some crazy shit there! Don't agree with alot of your posts but damn, I feel ya' on that one. Let's go boys!!!!!!!
pa.rangersfan
Mon Apr 23 2012 5:16 pm EST
Well, looks like a picked the wrong night to quit drinking and drugging...Less than an hour from puck drop and I'm already wondering if a dozen beers, a third of a handle of gin and the bountiful remains of the drug drawer are going to be enough to anesthetize me to the point of semi-quiet submission if in fact the Rangers lose. I'm already nailing up some chicken wire to prevent projectiles from smashing the flat screen and will be vigorously enforcing the 'no glass' policy in my living room. Furniture has been bolted to the floor and the cat has been locked far away from the foot that could be haphazardly swinging within close proximity of the viewshed...Man...after all that has happened in this series, the Rangers DESERVE to win. From the BS suspension handed to HAGELIN to to lack of suspension to NEIL to the overall bullshit that has kept the Senators in this series...THEIR LUCK HAS GOT TO RUN OUT TONIGHT. This whole season can NOT go down like this...to a gang of cheapshoting scumbags who are the toast of Canada because the Canucks are choke artists. At this point, I would rather see another Penguins cup than watch Ottawa win in six. And if they do, well...it's gonna be a long off-season for Tortorella, who is going to have to do some serious soul searching to realize he was the root of this team getting knocked into such a suck-hole that has every jackass pundit in broadcast saying "80 percent of all teams who win game five go on to with the..."
tdchi
Mon Apr 23 2012 5:15 pm EST
Td - to follow up on what you said about simplifying their game. The Rangers need to be more aggressive on offense. If they play like they are trying to win this 1 nothing then we are toast. They need to try and win this one 3-1or 4-2 or something like that. They have sat back when they have gotten the lead in every game and it has cost us 2 or the 3 losses. LGR!!!
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 3:56 pm EST
All in folks....Now or never....We aren't playing the Canadians from the 60's......
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 3:53 pm EST
WILDCARD - In your attempt to twist everything the Rangers way, you are right and wrong...Winning 7 more FOs then the other team is significant though not obliteration like winning 15 more like the Sens did in Game 3 (and they lost!)....And it doesn;t matter if it is only one guy, if he's the guy takling the FOs..Bottom line is the Sens have had the edge in the FO circle every game (I think) and even moreso in Ottawa when they can dictate the matchups..Where's tonight's game?..and I have no stats but where the Rangers seem to lose the the majority of the FOs is when thety are in their own end wnd when on the PP.....So, it's not only who is winning but when winning....And isn't Boyle one of the better Rangers FO guys? is he playing tonight?
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 3:18 pm EST
Another thing, The Sens LOST with Alfie in the lineup and played just as well if not better with out him...mentally they may be happy, but the Rangers really played much better with Hags, so they will feel like they have got it back and can beat anyone again...at least I hope that's the way it works out. the Psychological impact of Hags being back can not be overlooked.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 3:16 pm EST
And the kid from Sweden seems to think he is playing on the Sens top line...if that's true, than the Sens have decided to take off the player that got that line going for the first time in the playoffs....how stupid is that....It could work of course, but why mess with it?
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 3:13 pm EST
OK...enough with the "cant win a faceoff" On Saturday OTT won a whopping 7 more faceoff than the Rangers....I know it wasn't a great part of the Rangers game...but its ONE guy on OTT who won a lot more than he lost Konapka, like he had done his entire career...but otherwise the Rangers were about even or ahead of the rest of the SENS centers. You would think that the Rangers lost 50 and won 1 the way people are bringing it up. in certain situations they need to be better, but its one guy who is beating them, not the entire team...lets keep it in focus. They need to figure out Konapka...not everyone.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 3:04 pm EST
Hospo--I know where your heart is---LeTs gO RaNgErS!!!!!
thedugster
Mon Apr 23 2012 3:02 pm EST
They have lost the best player and most physical player and bring back a smurf (not busting on Hags, you know what I mean)..while the Sens bring back their leader...IMO, this game could get really ugly on the scoreboard....OTOH, it's these kinda times where this Ranger team has fought back...But, the POs are a different animal as we have seen.....Keep the fingers crossed...but just in case, I say Dress Scott for Mitchell. so they can try and maim Karlsson, Spezza, ALfreddson and Neil for the next round...hell, the Rangers should even offer to pay their 25 game fines and suspension if it happens..
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 2:54 pm EST
HOSPO... My biggest concern with the team is that Torts was happy with how the team played on Saturday... really Torts? Where was the forecheck which we've been so good at all year? What about consistently losing face offs? I must've been watching a different game... meanwhile, the Sens PP gets a shot in the arm with Alfredsson coming back... IMO, if we don't score a couple of quickies in the first period to take the crowd out of it, it will be a long night.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 2:42 pm EST
DUGSTER - I had some faith the last two games, but not much left today..Just not at all impressed with Th Gming, Coacing and playing..All have been a bust so far....I'll be rooting for them though
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 2:41 pm EST
ZUCCARELLO.... the good news is he's out of his cast... if the Rangers make it to the second round, he would be a possibility for them.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 2:28 pm EST
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
PJ
Mon Apr 23 2012 2:28 pm EST
I I /we live and die for games/nights like this don’t we all? I have faith and hope we can beat them and come back to the greatest city in the world for a game 7. I know we have the team to win tonight. We need to win every battle, beat them to all the lose pucks. We must get the puck out of our zone quickly and surely. We must not take too many stupid penalties. We must wish the King is royal and regal in net,,,,,we need a few breaks,, ,we need Gabby and Richards to help lead us with Callahan. Dubi must overcome a a terrible season and score a goal tonight. Our defense must not give up too many odd man rushes but also get into the offense when its safe and secure ,,,,We have traveled a long hard road to get to this point---lets be good fans and wish our team well and keep our fingers crossed,,,,,,AHMEN!!!
thedugster
Mon Apr 23 2012 2:23 pm EST
Z: " he'd like the league to say, you know what, our officials blew it by not calling this or that right " - The only time this happened? Colin Campbell regarding the blown offsides call that was missed in Penguins/Flyers.
josh29
Mon Apr 23 2012 2:20 pm EST
Bob: I agree. The inconsistencies with how the league goes about implementing discipline or not are maddening. Are they trying to protect players from these open ice "predatory" hits or not? Did they rule that Neil didn't hit Boyle in the head, because it sure looked to me like he did? So I guess it's OK for some players to do it and against some teams and not others? I mean, cmon, it's laughable. ... Dave Maloney was saying on Hockey Night Live after Sat.'s game that for once, he'd like the league to say, you know what, our officials blew it by not calling this or that right (using Torrez' hit as an example). Instead you get Bettman saying things like coashes complaining (Queneville, Torts etc) about calls is "gamesmanship" and means nothing. These attitudes start at the top of the league.
Zebop
Mon Apr 23 2012 2:06 pm EST
I just wish Sjanahan would be honest. I would like to see this statement from him: "Remember the initiative that we undertook to curtail predatory hits to the heads of players? We were just kidding."
Bob
Mon Apr 23 2012 1:28 pm EST
Since the lockout, 53 playoff series have been at 3-2. 54.7% of those have ended in 6 games... 26.4% have ended with the leading team winning it in 7. 18.9% have ended with the trailing team coming back to win the series in Game 7. It's not great, but I'm saying there's a chance!
josh29
Mon Apr 23 2012 1:26 pm EST
Wild - as someone who works with numbers/charts/metrics all day long, I appreciate your pursuit of past scenarios. I can drive myself nuts with probabilities and variables, but what it all comes down to is this team putting out 60 solid minutes of hockey on the ice tonight. We have the talent and ability to win this game, and this series. What I took away from that playoff series review, is that it's VERY possible to come back...
josh29
Mon Apr 23 2012 1:11 pm EST
I'd love Neil if he were on the Rangers, but shit, can't stand him now. ... actually he was thisclose to being a Ranger but he chose to go back to Ott as a free agent, what, two seasons ago. Sather's kind of player, and I'm sure Torts would love him too. Just not now. .. Hey, we have Rupp instead, right Hospo?
Zebop
Mon Apr 23 2012 1:10 pm EST
HOSPO, you know I agree with your explanation so I retract
E
Mon Apr 23 2012 1:09 pm EST
OK: So it does happen more often than I thought...of course there is still the variable of who had the better record...for example, FLA vs NJD, FLA is the higher seed with less points...or what the first games were like...I mean, it can show trends, but I guess its still hard to figure anything out with so many variables....I imagine no matter how much you broke it down, it could be broken down more until there are only 2 or 3 series that match in all the variables....and then its not much of a sample size.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:52 pm EST
Wild -- you're right. I got so busy scanning for games/series, I took my eye off the ball. Aside from NYR/WSH, ALL the other ones were higher seeds...
josh29
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:40 pm EST
josh29: The Rangers haven't been the higher seed until this year...so that cant be right...
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:39 pm EST
@KIS - If Neil hit Neil like James Neal hit, we'd need to get Roger Neilson and Neil Smith to join Harry Neale's post-game show to give their opinions, along with former Whaler Jeff O'Neill.
josh29
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:36 pm EST
KIS: I agree except for one thing...Florida at least makes some sense, since soooo many people from the norther states move there later in life. So there is SOMETHING to it. Other places, Columbus, Atlanta, Phoenix, and even Dallas make little sense. Its just strange to see....I don't get why they put so much into those cities. Nashville is probably the most successful of the "non hockey markets" they have a strong fan base and a good team...but you would still think they would want to focus on the NY, TOR, BOS, LA, DET markets more....they are big markets.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:34 pm EST
Wild, I can do some more digging, if you're interested, since a lot of the 3-2 situations may be different (e.g. down 3-0, Pitt won 2 to get to 3-2 before being eliminated, vs. alternating wins). Since the lockout, I found ONCE the higher seed was down 3-2 and came back -- 2011 BUF/PHI. BUF led 3-2. Higher seed PHI won games 6 & 7. On the other side, I found 8 TIMES the higher seed was leading 3-2 and lost the series (2011 PIT/TB, 2011 VAN/BOS, 2010 PIT/MTL, 2010 BOS/PHI, 2010 MTL/WSH, 2009 NYR/WSH, 2009 NJ/CAR, 2009 DET/PIT, 2006 CGY/ANA.
josh29
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:34 pm EST
I hiope for the Rangers to be up by 3 so Bickle and Rupp can have a turn at Neil
KIS
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:33 pm EST
Hospo: Just to make sure you want to scream....I am pulling for Rupp to get a hat trick tonight, one of the goals being a clutch game winner. LOL...you will want to cheer the Rangers win, but it will ensure Rupp gets to stay as long as he wants with the Rangers!! LOL
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:33 pm EST
If neil hit Crosby the way he hit Boyle. sorry boys
KIS
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:31 pm EST
really pissed. Can you imagine if Neil hit Crosby like he did Neil. Fuckin Neil would have been suspended for half a season. If rangers lose tonight, Torts should speak his mind. When Butthole and soupy give the fine. Dolan should tell them to fuck off. He puts his money up just like everybody else does. Anybody who thinks that Buttman cares about the NY market and ratings needs to realize Buttman leaves Toronto out of the playoffs as well. He doesn't care. The Rangers, Leafs, Detroit, Philly Boston are staples of the league. HE feels they will always be there. He doesn't want to lose teams like Phoenix and Nashville. As long as they are in that market keeps going. ONce they are out people could care less about hockey. like Fucking Florida is such a hockey hotbed. Damn I hate the league officials.
KIS
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:17 pm EST
Josh29 - I know, Rupp has had a few good shifts in these PO (still don't liker him overall) and why the 4th liners and Bickel (not Mitchel) should play more
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:15 pm EST
apologies to tdchi...he referenced this earlier.
DREW
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:15 pm EST
Sorry the Senitors did not get the memo, save the jumping up and down on top of each other for the showers, let keep it clean on the ice. If you have any questions just ask you old coach James Graham.
Jerry_Garcia
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:14 pm EST
In 2009, the Rangers took a 3-1 series lead into Game 5 and lost 3 in a row to the Caps. The Rangers were a 7 seed vs the #2 seed Caps. Maybe fortunes reverse?
DREW
Mon Apr 23 2012 12:05 pm EST
Per twitter, Alfredson is in as well as the kid from Sweden...so I wonder who comes out... the 2 youngsters they added so far have hurt the Rangers...NO problem if they are the ones who are held out.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 11:54 am EST
On another note, the Rangers as an org...since Staal...have learned how to deal with concussions. When a guy gets one, they go home...and they don't come to the rink or the training center when the team is there. The other players literally don't see them. Staal, once they knew it was a concussion, he was gone from the team and the facilities, Sauer was sent away to heal, now Boyle. Its a sign that they are not taking chances with this, and it is a good thing.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 11:51 am EST
Rhet0ric: Not to discount how hard it is to come back in any series...but I wonder how many times the team up 3-2 is the higher seed...I mean, how many times has the Higher seed even been down 3-2, and how many times did they come back vs, how many times has the higher seed been UP 3-2 and lost. I would imagine, that the majority of those teams that lost after being down 2-3 were the lower seed. I could be wrong, but the numbers are hard to figure when it comes to stuff like that....like the "teams who win game 4 are 25-12 in a series" or something, but it doesn't tell you how many were up 3-0 or 2-1 already, or what teams were the higher seed, or what the matchup was be it 8-1 or 5-6. So while the numbers can point to a trend, its too wide of a sample to really see much from it. Maybe the only one that doesn't matter is a team up 3-0, regardless of the seeding, teams rarely come back, HOWEVER I think the only times I have seen it, the higher seed is the one to come back....I cant think of a lower seed ever taking 4 in a row....
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 11:38 am EST
Hospo - The sad part is that, in OT, right before Turris scored, Rupp was having his best shift since the Winter Classic on January 2. I don't expect him to get big minutes, but I think he has more to contribute than he's been able to. (Maybe not MUCH more, but give the guy more than 3 minutes...)
josh29
Mon Apr 23 2012 11:27 am EST
Rhet - I don't know about that, Rupp's Three useless minutes ber game are pretty important!
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 11:18 am EST
Alfredsson confirmed as returning tonight. As Torts likes to say, "Wonderful!"
Zebop
Mon Apr 23 2012 11:15 am EST
Okay, I believe we can extend the Sens to 7 games, but history is NOT on our side... "The Rangers have trailed 3-2 in a best-of-seven series 17 times in their history; they've come back and won a series just once (1994 Eastern Conference Finals vs. New Jersey). And since the NHL lockout, teams that are down 3-2 have come back to win the series just six times in 31 opportunities." ...I think Mr. Messiah needs to make a visit to the team before the game and talk about '94 and what they did to overcome... E... Lights out... really? You're talking about a goalie that never held the other team long enough so his team could get the lead (before Saturday)... Before the last game, Lundvists stats were better than his and the exception was that Hank has been 1-7 in Playoff OT's in his career... for a player that has been pretty outstanding during the regular season in OT, it's just one of those odd-ball things that continues to mystify... MF....Neil is more than just a goon... JMO, but he sets the tone for the physicality of the Sens... If he and Rupp were thrown out of the game for Game Misconducts, they would miss Neil a whole lot more.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 23 2012 11:10 am EST
E - I am sorry, I think you really eaxaggerated the Ranger "physical intimidation"....They were a hard team to play against for most of the season becuase they were always giving their all..always finishing their check..always hitting cleanly.....But they are no longer a hard or difficult team to play against ..becasue the other teams play just as hard now..hit just as much and, more importantly, are stronger...But, if the Rangers play as sthey should---pressure, forecheck, backcheck--they can win the next two,.......And also,whil Anderson has been good, he hasn;'t been THAT good...what we need is for him to let up a softie, soemthing he is known for but hasn't done...While the King has
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:44 am EST
BOB: the NYR have some preset breakouts and while they aren't exotic they are servicable. Let's remember MOs going into this series. NYR forechecking, hard on the puck, pressure, pressure, pressure. Physical intimidation, and grinded out low scoring games. Ottawa, very highly skilled but vulnerable on defense. Goaltending was suspect, as was defense. What changed? Ottawa has a goalie playing lights out and they have matched, or even exceeded the NYR. Obviously Anderson has become otherworldly but the NYR have done enough to be rewarded with some wins and came out on the short. They let two games get to OT and paid the price. They have left me with the impression of a pitbull that cornered a cat and the cat just attached himself to his face clawing and biting. The pitbull has no idea how to respond. After all, he is a pit bull and it is a cat. The way the NYR get 2-in a row is to be more. A lot more. Elevate. It's like we all here. Eliminating a team is the most difficult thing. I firmly believe that if the NYR can get this win, they will go home to MSG and close out this round. I still see this as a game 7 series very winnable.
E
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:43 am EST
WILD _ you and your excuses..The other night during a loss ofthe game that made it 2-2-...The Rangers had FOUR players under 3 mins of ice time while the lowest total for an Ottawa player was over 5 minutes...There is no explanation..
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:23 am EST
the "int eh" is a typing error, tying to go too fast...those should read "in the" Sorry, I imagine it hurts to read.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:20 am EST
Sad to see Boyle will not be playing tonight. Damn you, Chris Neil. But we CAN do it, boys. HEAVE HO, TWO IN A ROW! HEAVE HO, TWO IN A ROW!
josh29
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:19 am EST
Hospo: While I agree that the top Dmen need to have less min, OTT has played their top guys (all be it their top Dman has played a couple less min per game) the same way as Torts...the top 4 play the BULK of the min while the bottom 2 play much less. The Rangers actually play 3 lines more evenly than OTT, they play their top 6 for a larger % of the game thatn the Rangers. Torts is NOT doing anything different than OTT...and by them rolling 2 lines more...probably because they have not lead in any game save the last one, Torts needs to get the matchups out there. But all in all, there isn't much difference, and you make it sound like Torts is on some island where he doesn't use his roster like any other coach...except it just happens the guy on the other bench does the same thing. Again, I would like to see the ice time spread just a little more...Give Rupp and his line and extra 3 or 4 shifts int eh game... that's just 1 per period...I get with the lead late in the third you might not, OK, so 2 more shifts in the first, I say 2 more in the first 10 min, set the tone for the style game, grind it out down low int eh O zone...or at least try to. Than 1 more int eh second, maybe 2 more in the second, the second tends to be a bad period for the Rangers, at least this year, so let the 4th line guys go out and change the mood of the ice so to speak, than one extra early int he 3rd. That would give them a couple more min and take that ice from the top guys, and maybe they can be a bit quicker from having a little more time on the bench to recoup. And if you cant trust Bickle out there later in the game, get him out there more early...give him 3 min in the 1st alone, than anything else is gravy, and he can get into the game, maybe he can land a few big hits, maybe he gets a fight in and takes Neal off the ice for a bit....whatever...but that will take a min away from the top pair...its a good idea to get the top guys some rest early int he game so if needed they can play every other shift late to get a goal.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 10:15 am EST
And let's not forget to blame Lundqvist...Look at these horrible stats thru the 5 games: 1.78 GAA; .945 Sv%; 1 SO; 9 GA...That and a 13.6% PP [has to be his fault for not scoring on the powerplay as well]
RF73
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:58 am EST
BOB - Good points...Honestly, I think he has been strategically out coached this series and, even more important, the Ottawa coach has made better use of his personnel and entire team.....And this was a strength of TORT's during the season..but in the POs he has, on purpose, basically played 4 men down every game......Either you play them with confidence or they should have brought in players that he could trust....Either way, The Rangers are a tired team at the end of games
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:45 am EST
On Torts.......I thought he was a clueless coach relative to strategy, but the WC changed my mind a bit. However, it is common for NHL clubs to have a couple different breakout patterns, and we do not appear to have that at all. Ottawa has studied and mastered stopping our breakouts, and we have not adjusted. They are interfering with the first forehecker, another "rule change" by the NHL on the fly, so we are not able to get the first man in quickly enough, and they just spin the puck around and out. Result, we spend a boatload of time in our own zone, and hardly any in theirs. I am hopeful, but in no way confident about tonight. We have proven the ability to lose when taking he lead, and now when trailing by a goal for most of the game. By giving up the tying goal late and losing in OT on a goal from a circus clown, and on an unstoppable shot by a skilled player. This playoffs is so wide open that it would be a shame to blow it and go out so quickly. We shall see. I think that Henrik needs to pitch a shutout tonight for us to win.
Bob
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:36 am EST
RF4L - I don't think the Rangers were "physically dominant" in game 1but they forechecked much more and were the aggressors...That made it harder for the Snes to control the puck, keep it in the Rangers zone, and physically control the play with FO wins and their bigger and nastier bodies like they have done a significant portion of the series...But not as much on Saturday when the Rangers went back to being a little more agressive for a larger stretch of time....And then they get stung by that piece of dung Mitchell and his lazy backchek.....Forecheck, backcheck, win the neutral zone and they can win
Hospo
Mon Apr 23 2012 9:21 am EST
I specifically staved off reading the Wall Saturday and Sunday to protect my weekend. And boy am I ever glad I made that choice...Summing things up for those who followed my lead, we should have fired Tortorella, traded for NASH, traded for PARISE, picked up a bunch of fourth-line tools like PAHLSSON(who is now scheduling his tee-time), sent SCOTT to deliberately injure someone on the Sens' bench and gotten a more clutch goalie than LUNDQVIST(who apparently can't handle the pressure)...Well, I can say I'm glad some of you aren't in the GMs seat...Several things from Saturday: Simply put, TORTORELLA is getting out-coached BADLY. Real badly. So badly that I start to wonder how he won a cup before remembering that it was in the pre-lockout NHL...First and foremost in what he's failed to do is generate ANYTHING from the mad-advantage. And that's sad when you consider that RICHARDS and GABORIK are in the lineup. But this failure dovetails well in to his second worst failure, which is that he hasn't been able to get the Rangers to simplify their game. Shots on net. Period. None of these cutsie drop passes...no dump and chase...simply bring it into the zone shoot it on net and above all, CRASH ANDERSON. This is a former AHL netminder. All you need to do his bump him a bit and he'll be off his rocker...The third Tortorella failure is that he's continuing down this path he ventured down unsuccessfully at the top of the season. He's playing stars and hoping that they'll overpower the Sens, who are pretty much at or above the stars we have. You're never going to win a playoff series with this roster that way. You need to skate all four lines...no player in the lineup should have less than 10 minutes of ice. Hell, MacLean feels confident enough to give KONOPKA 10 minutes of ice...and a guy STRAIGHT from the WHL...and yet we can't give that time to KREIDER?....On BOYLE: It's a real bummer if he's out...and yes, this will test the Rangers' depth(or lack thereof). But the bottom line is he's a bottom line guy on the Rangers all through their 50-win season.Crucial, yes. The real problem here is that the top two lines haven't done SHIT. Plain and simple. These are guys who should be scoring three a night who have four goals TOTAL in five games. This goes especially for CALLAHAN, who needs to show he can lead by example. And GABORIK? Is he even out there? To win, the Rangers need to do this one simple thing: Simplify. Period. Play a game that all four lines can play and they'll win this. You can't single one guy out in the Rangers' lineup for bringing them to the brink, because it's been a team effort. They've moved away from the game that made them so successful and we're seeing very predictable results. They need to get out there, play hard and have fun. The goals and wins will follow. This bullshit about getting payback is just ridiculous. Getting payback doesn't win games. It just gives the refs even more reason to throw important guys out of the game.
tdchi
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:50 am EST
I, for one, think the Rangers are going to a game 7.
RinkRat
Mon Apr 23 2012 8:26 am EST
HOSPO: The thing is....its Anderson in net, so they could play the same way and end up with 6 goals. If I am remembering correctly...Anderson had that 51 save shutout against the Sharks in the PO for the Avs, than I think the next game was in Denver (cant remember if the shutout was there or not) and Anderson gave up 4 goals on the first 9 shots....and it wasn't like they were great chances or bad D play, he just gave them up, like he WANTED to let the Sharks score. Thats what he is in net....now to your point, they can expect that, so they need to come harder, but they may not have to, and they may win going away, and Andy may be done with his good netminding for the year.
Wildcard
Mon Apr 23 2012 7:20 am EST
Yeah, Ola. If we loose tonight do you rescue the cow? Or do you shoot out the ice from under him? very disappointing on how some players have become invisible in this series. This team looks just like Torts' teams from the past two years. Totally neutered offense, no puck control, reactionary.
NYStranger
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:55 am EST
Tikk- Yeah. And AAHHHHHHHH what a messy situation we are in. Not only are loosing tonight a real anticlimax in perspective to the high hopes everyone had on this team. But it would also hurt us alot going forward. The NHL seems to be such a mental challenge that teams/players always seem to be able to handle just a little bit less than what is expected from them. You definitely want a "clean sheet". And if we lost, we get a ton of "issues" attached to Torts and many of the players. Can player X win in the PO's? Can we play our system for 82 games and a PO'`s? Its a real "cow on the ice", like we would say in Sweden.
Ola
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:51 am EST
“Fifty wins doesn’t mean squat,” he said. “You are judged by the playoffs. “You are measured as a player and as a team by what your team does in the playoffs.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/torts_must_push_right_buttons_to_gowY0fy3jgUpViWahiMSON#ixzz1srbTkftv
stevielegs
Mon Apr 23 2012 6:40 am EST
Now if only the Rangers can win the next two!!
Tikkanen
Mon Apr 23 2012 4:28 am EST
To be honest, I doubt all of this mess should be blamed on Shanahan. The scheme to hand out suspensions is just flawed. They for example seem to give the damage caused a big impact on the final decisison. If Marian Hossa gets up and keeps playing, Torres gets like 1 or 2 games, carried out on a stretcher -- its 25 games. BUT, most of the time you don't have a clue how long a player will be out 1-2 days after a hit. It just don't add up. I don't have a problem with them giving the damage caused a great deal of value. There is a big diffrence between putting a great deal of force behind a vicious elbow to the jaw, or just putting up your elbow. But that diffrence is sometimes very hard to detect on "tv". But if this is to be used when suspending a player, you of course needs to give a initial suspension, then re-evaluate it after a week and/or month.
Ola
Mon Apr 23 2012 2:52 am EST
Punchrolfe- Great post! One thing though, I don't for a second believe that Boyle, or anyone else, doing anything CAUSED Ottawa's response. Ottawa is a fairly big and tough team. This is the Stanley Cup PO's.
Ola
Sun Apr 22 2012 11:39 pm EST
Can we get a grip here. This has been a very tough series with transgressions on both sides. Whatever motivated Boyle to bitch slap Karlsson repeatedly in game 1 backfired when the Senators used it as a motivator to prove their "manhood" in game 2 by mugging Boyle. Hags did retalliate, no question. He came in high with the elbow right in front of me down in the corner. No regrets, but this has not been a one way street. Tomorrow requires a page out of the old BS Bullies. Go up by four goals, THEN beat the living crap out of Neil on principle. But win the friggin' game first, though. Stupid penalties will put us on the golf course instead of round 2.
Punchrolfe
Sun Apr 22 2012 10:35 pm EST
Hospo: Feelings are mutual, but I disagree...totally. Part of the Rangers stchick this year has been their ability and willingness and whatever it is to respond to physical challenges presented to them. They've not done so this series because, in part (and this is JMO) how you respond in the POs is very different to how you respond in the regular season. In game 1, the Rangers were physically dominant. Since then, not at all....
RF4L
Sun Apr 22 2012 10:13 pm EST
KIS....No Boyle tomorrow night...
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 10:08 pm EST
instead of trying to persuade others about what if how about we put lines together for tomorrows game. I say hags- Richards- gabby, I'd go Kreider-Boyle- cally, AA-step-Dubi, Rupp-Feds-Prust
KIS
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:56 pm EST
Neil is a unique and rare breed of asshole. As for vigilante nonsense? They are down in a series that would be far more gratifying if they sent Ottawa packing. As for the league and their utter and complete incompetence? They know what they did but they also know you will be back next season and hopefully Shanny is fired. Not likely but there needs to be a review of what he did this post season. Someone last night was proposing that instead of an omnipotent justice like Shanny is, perhaps a panel review is better. Better check and balance. A supreme court with majority decision.
E
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:53 pm EST
See ya Nucks!
Nick
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:51 pm EST
Highlights from tonight's Whale win... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4TH6T_8woU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Dineen11
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:32 pm EST
schneidw....Once Torts said it was the same as the Torres hit I knew nothing would be done....Ironically the league is targeting Torts as much as they did Avery...They don't like him plain and simple....Buttman is a vindictive little weasel who some day will get his.....
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:27 pm EST
Apology to all Wallsters! I am pissing vinegar.. my bad. I had just watched the cheapshot Neil put on Boyle and it got me so fuckin livid at Shanahan that I am punching walls here in New Mexico... nearly the same hit as Torres with the exception of leaving the feet.. it was late, there was intent to injure, and Neal has been cheapshot the entire series... PUNK!
schneidw
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:24 pm EST
At this time tomorrow night I hope to find this place full of victory posts and all looking forward to Thursday...I mean the season just can't end this early....It just can't!
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:22 pm EST
PJ- Touche'
schneidw
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:21 pm EST
HOSPO- RIght on!
schneidw
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:21 pm EST
MELVILLE - Iquestionedbefore the Sereies wheteher the Rangers were strong enough or nasty enough ..They could undoubtley use a scumbag, but a STRONG scumbag, like Neil and some veterant nastiness/grit/strength....(forward and D)
Hospo
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:18 pm EST
With all due RESPECT, because I love you guys, but this stuff about the series turning on the Rangers not responding to the Boyle mugging or any other real or imagined Ottawa trangression is pure phooey-gobbldey gook-mularkey-bull shit....OK, you know what I mean.....I'll grant that the act of doing it by Carkner may have fostered some Senator team jelling...but the Rangers part of it did nothing ..They played EXATLY how they wanted to play..and they were't tintimidated or scared one iota....This series has turned on the Senators realizing that they are flat out a physically stronger team than the Ranger..a more aggressive team than the Rangers (some by Tort's design)and that they can win almost every face off and they can control the game with bodies, traffice and sealing the boards.....Simple plan and they have executed it well....HOWEVER, the Rangers play like they did on Saturday with more forechecking and more attack, they have it within them to win..Not sure tehy will, but they can...They just have to show it....We'll see..
Hospo
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:18 pm EST
E...I am not saying Hank hasn't played well but am saying he will have to be on his game for us to win tomorrow...And lets face facts he stole many games for us this year....Note Bruins had three seventh game wins on the way to the Cup last year....Just isn't easy....
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:15 pm EST
.....why don't we have a Neil type of asshole player? Seems to make all the difference in the playoffs! Having said that has he been suspended yet?
MelvilleFred
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:15 pm EST
PJ: I look at it like this, if the NYR cannot win with the performance that Henke has given them, then summer cannot come to soon for this team. I expected this team to make the E Conference finals. I wasn't even asking for a cup. But a first round collapse is simply unacceptable given the progress this team has made. Good teams win when it matters. I expect nothing less.
E
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:15 pm EST
schneidw...Quit whining and pointing fingers....
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:10 pm EST
KIS - you got it, but you got it backwards. That attempt at intimidation would have been seen as idiotic, and would have sunk the Senators if the Rangers' PP wasn't such crap. The real turning point was not scoring on the ensuing major. The best way to dissuade goon tactics in the POs is to make the other team pay for it on the scoreboard. If they picked up a goal or two on that major they would've taken that game and this series would've looked much different.
ScMePlz
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:10 pm EST
......glass half empty, sky is falling.....
MelvilleFred
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:08 pm EST
BTW- If anybody wants to play the blame game... who is the scout in the NYR organization that chose Sanguinetti over Giroux?
schneidw
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:07 pm EST
E: WTF are you talking about? The season is NOT over yet... and there are a shit-ton of finger pointed and blame game all over the WALL...anybody who has ever played a team sport knows you stick together and certainly don't cast blame... re-read the posts and you will see a bunch of quitters and whiners....
schneidw
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:02 pm EST
Considering we didn't trail in regulation in the first four games and only by one in the fifth we can certainly win this thing....Hank will need a big game tomorrow but if we can win it I definately believe we win Thursday...Will be a nerve wracking night tomorrow....Already getting anxious....Positive, positive, all positive.....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:02 pm EST
KIS - HRIVIK is an undrafted winger out of the QMJHL that the Whale signed to an ATO a few weeks ago. He's been playing well since getting a few games under his belt. He's not a midget either (major plus!)... Here's a good article on him with some more info: http://www.howlings.net/2012/04/05/hawks-view-marek-hrivik/
Dineen11
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:58 pm EST
Looks like the Whale swept their first round playoff series in 3 straight from the Baby Icelanders. That is their first series win since 2006. Yikes. No wonder we are not a deep team.
Bob
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:47 pm EST
Close out games are notoriously difficult to accomplish. The problem that I have is contrary to some I believe that the NYR played well enough to win in most games. But a loss is a loss. And if what you threw was good enough to win and you didn't you need to elevate to another level. Find another gear. Take yourself to a place even greater than you already have. This Ottawa team is a 100% beatable but the NYR fell out of control because of physicality. Strangely, the most physical team in the league has been pushed around by Ottawa. The NYR did not respond WELL ENOUGH and so here we are. I won't except any excuses. Not injuries, demons, suspensions, dirty plays, or anything else. You are the sum of your record. The NYR are down 2-3. This series is not lost. This scenario is EXACTLY why you secure home ice advantage in the regular season. If they don't seize what they have in front of them, then they wasted a season and will need to look to next season. And several players will not be back. Whether by trade or UFA. It will be made apparent that this team is just simply not good enough yet and is missing something. With a class of prospects who will be looking to make the team some guys in the lineup are playing right now for their future with the franchise. And if that isn't enough and they didn't leave it on the ice tomorrow then I say be gone with you.
E
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:40 pm EST
Kis -- Yes 'because their PP sucks.' Score a few and Ottawa can 'physically dominate' all they want. And lose. Seven minutes into game four we were up 2-1 in games and 2-0 on the board. Third goal and were resting for the second round.
Nick
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:35 pm EST
pa.rangersfan--the lack of a response to the mugging of boyle,hits on richards,gabby and tghe mugging of brian boyle is agonizing,,,,,i dont get how you can let Kanopka and Neil run us around in our fucking building,,,unforgivable,,,,,,,,makes me sick----but I will be glued to my tv praying for a win,,,we can do it,,,,,lEtSgO rAnGeRs!!!!
thedugster
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:28 pm EST
SCHNEID: You couldn't be more wrong. Fair weather???
E
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:26 pm EST
dineen, who the hell is Marek hrivek. Is he any good? will he help ?
KIS
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:24 pm EST
what many of you don't seem to understand about beating up Ottawa is that it isn't for retaliation it is for keeping the physical supremacy. The game is a physical game. When Ottawa came out in game 2 and smacked the Rangers around and the Rangers did nothing it gave Ottawa confidence. It told the boys from Ottaw they can't skate with us and when can be just as physical with them. We don't even have to worry about taking liberties with them because their PP sucks. It just gave Ottawa's young team confidence.
KIS
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:19 pm EST
The Whale completed their sweep of Bridgeport tonight on a goal by CASEY WELLMAN nearly 17 minutes into overtin to give the Whale a 4-3 win and elimate the Sound Tigers from the playoffs. Same line-up as last night...although CHRISTIAN THOMAS did not see the ice after the first period. Not sure if he was injured or not - I didn't see him do anything early in the gane that would warrant his ass being glued to the bench. RYAN BOURQUE had another really solid game and scored a beautiful goal. MAREK HRIVIK netted another 2 goals as well. NEWBURY sucked... had a very embarassing attempt at a penalty shot and whiffed a few other times. Not sure wherr his game was tonight. It's the rookies getting it done... Round 2 to be determined...
Dineen11
Sun Apr 22 2012 7:55 pm EST
PaRanger: yeah there's truth on both sides. I don't know. Philly also poured in 30 goals against a goalie who was laughably pathetic for 5 of 6 games. Do yeah, it looked like a physical assault. It always does after you win. Had the NYR scored some damn goals last night no one gives a fuck about any payback routine. Just MHO.
Nick
Sun Apr 22 2012 7:26 pm EST
Nick.., what-ever. You don't let someone punch you in the mouth for the whole world to see and "turn the other cheek!" This Organization has a notorious history of being docile when challenged. All that shit you said is relevant for sure but, man, it's way past that now. The Flyers responded today in true Flyer style by literally handing Pitt their ass. Crosby wanted no part of that tilt today. The Rangers had a chance to respond in Game 3 by coming out and doing all the things you said and being physical. They chose not to and now will have to learn the hard way.
pa.rangersfan
Sun Apr 22 2012 7:20 pm EST
dug.., right on. I understand the optimism and I applaud the "glass-half-full" crowd. I'm not one of them. This Team poured 110% into an apparently almost meaningless 82 games and now don't have the legs left to defeat a Club they should have disposed of in 5 games. Just my opinion for whatever it's worth. I just want it to be over already because the hardest part for me is watching them get handled physically with little to no response.
pa.rangersfan
Sun Apr 22 2012 7:15 pm EST
This payback thing seems misguided. Who cares if someone lays out Neil or Carkner? It won't help win and might hurt. Will Ottawa give a shit about it once they wrap it up? The NHL isn't the UFC (yet). Had they scored one the Carkner PP in game two THAT'S payback. I know you can't score every PP but some key goals would be nice. Screw the payback goonery -- put the puck in the damn net. Win some forechecks, get traffic, get good shots and freaking BURY a couple.
Nick
Sun Apr 22 2012 7:07 pm EST
pa.rangersfan---I agree but we are not toast. The Rangers need to make a statement in OTTAWA as they did in our building, if we lose we lose but lets not go down soft. Lets win every battle,hit them harder, get to every puck first and we can win------I STILL HAVE FAITH---lEtS gO rAnGeRs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thedugster
Sun Apr 22 2012 6:53 pm EST
So many diff points of view and that's cool but the reality is folks; this Series turned on the Rangers not getting payback for Carkner pounding Boyle, It's a psych-thing. It showed weakness. These guys are done.
pa.rangersfan
Sun Apr 22 2012 6:47 pm EST
if some here would have attended yesterday's game, they would have a better feel for this Team. They came out flat, with no real fire in their belly, and were not really hitting and going to war. They have shown up more during the regular season. There is no excuse for that .....maybe Chinstrap, who is a regular attending season subscriber might see it differently.......but that's why there were boos after the 1st period. ....I watched some on NYR in 60 last night, and they hyped it better than being there. ....they better show up tomorrow night, and make it to game 7. ......where they belong.......it's raining outside, the weather is not fair.........
stevielegs
Sun Apr 22 2012 5:52 pm EST
Would Edmonton take some combination of Dubinsky, Anisimov, MDZ, and our #1 pick for #1 overall? We have a trading history with them that's well documented since Slats took over. This team has drafted much better of the last 4-6 years and your seeing the benefit of that now, but the one thing that this franchise has been unable to accomplish is landing that true #1 franchise player via the Draft. Yakupov would be worth the risk if EDM were willing to consider that package. They need defense and some 2/3's. They have Eberle, Hall, last years's #1(can't remember his name now.) Aside from next years moves, LETS KICK SOME SENS ASS TOMM. I realize it's tough being a Ranger fan, and I was devastated by the loss just like the rest of you last night, but this team has shown a great deal of resliency throughout the year. Every game has been decided by 1 goal(w/ the exception of Game 1.) I believe it will be another tight one tommorrow and I'm hoping for Game 7 in the Garden. That would be great theatre. If its not this year, we're building something good hear. Torts had the pedal floored the entire season and some guys just look gassed right now(ie.Girardi.) He has to do a better job at pacing this team through the year and preparing for the playoff battles. Let's bring it back tomm. LETS GO RANGERS!
NCRanger
Sun Apr 22 2012 5:43 pm EST
SchneidW: come on, round the calendar posting, year after year, some guys have been on this site a long, long time..... Fair Weather, No Way...... Just passionate about the team, Our Team, and winning......
mf
Sun Apr 22 2012 5:42 pm EST
ScMePlz - Guilty for bitching about the Cally penalty..OTOH, I have no problem with how the Rangers have acted physically in theis series...except for not wearing down Karlsson and just plain not being strong or nasty enough.....Maybe the Rangers could have done something to Ottawat in Game 3, but the victory was more important..
Hospo
Sun Apr 22 2012 5:38 pm EST
SCHNEIDW - Think before you post..Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but NOBODY on here is a fair weather fan...NOBODY.....Pessimistic..Optomistic...Doom and Glooomer..Sunshine SPraying fools...yeah...but ZERO fair weather fans..among the regs at least..
Hospo
Sun Apr 22 2012 5:31 pm EST
KIS - I keep seeing people complain about the lack of retaliation for BB in game 2. Carkner's mugging resulted in a major. Would you have really wanted someone to go out there and take a major in response, in as close of a game as it was? Or would it have been a better idea in the next game when they were hanging on to a 1-0 lead? It would have been stupid, and if someone did it, they'd be crucified on this wall, especially if Ottawa scored on the resulting penalty. Hell, people bitched about Callahan's penalty last night when he stood up for Gaborik, and that didn't even result in a goal.
ScMePlz
Sun Apr 22 2012 5:31 pm EST
Bruins force a game seven with an OT win....Let's follow their lead and have a game seven at the Garden Thursday night....GO RANGERS!
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 5:31 pm EST
stevie... I just don't agree with you. I think that the Rangers have done some good things with regard to building something over the last few years and I think that with some further tweaking of the roster, that the Rangers will continue to be competitive for the next few years. How many cups has Philadelphia won with all of their moves? I guess we will see where they wind up this year.
evets1980
Sun Apr 22 2012 5:21 pm EST
Fair weather fans on the wall.... reaming Sather and company before the series is even wrapped up... ouch!
schneidw
Sun Apr 22 2012 5:15 pm EST
evets just another cya by sather and company. They don't make mistakes, ask them.....Brierre goes to philthy and is still scoring, he got Gomez and Drury. The list is long and wide of wrong moves, with some good moves too. They wanted Nash, but they couldn't get it done, so they got Scott, talk about bait and switch. ....it will always be next season with this organization, until they get lucky. Just seems to be the reality of NYR fans for over 75 years, 2 Cups in 72 years. .....disgraceful.......
stevielegs
Sun Apr 22 2012 5:08 pm EST
stevie... it's been pretty well documented via sports writers as well as Gordie Clark that Columbus was asking for the moon for Nash. From Gordie Clark: "They were asking for so bloody much. As I said in the [war] room, ‘Jeez, Columbus wants to give us Nash, but they want us to look like Columbus when we get him."
evets1980
Sun Apr 22 2012 4:29 pm EST
evets how do you know what they wanted for Nash?...can you share that info, or are you talking about the rumors?
stevielegs
Sun Apr 22 2012 4:08 pm EST
Columbus flat out wanted too much at the trade deadline for Nash. This team has a really good foundation moving forward next year and with making some necessary changes to the offense, they will be able to do some damage next season. Someone mentioned the other day on the wall that Tortorella did not expect this type of season out of the Rangers; that they were still a work in progress. KIS... I noticed that you mentioned that you didn't want Parise, but aside from Nash's size and perhaps his flare for the dramatic, I think Parise is a much better option. Here is a look at their states: RICK NASH - 28yo, GP 674, G 289, A 258, P 547, Career Points Per Game .81, +/- -71. ZACH PARISE - 28yo, GP 502, G 194, A 216, P 410, Career Points Per Game .82, +/- +57. On top of the nearly identical offensive numbers, all Zach Parise is going to cost is money. If you deal Dubinsky and Anisimov in the off season the cap space will be cleared for him while allowing the team to add other assets in the form of players, prospects, or picks. Bring in a FA center for the fourth line role or leave it open for someone like Marchesault, Lindberg, Borque, or someone else to fill. Let Fedotenko walk in this summer allowing Hagelin to line up with Boyle. Players like Miller or Thomas could shine in camp this year. But a top two lines that looks like this should be pretty formidable next year: Kreider-Richards-Gaborik, Parise-Stepan-Callahan. This would leave Boyle and Hagelin to line up with a rookie or FA winger on the third line with Rupp and Prust to line up with a rookie or FA center on the fourth. I think our top four D are pretty set with McDonagh, Girardi, Staal, and Del Zotto for now, with Erixon, McIlrath, Bickel and the like pushing for those 5, 6, 7 spots. I am still pulling for them this year, but this playoffs has revealed a glaring lack of clutch offense. Parise can help in that area and can make the players around him better. He would be my hands-down target this summer.
evets1980
Sun Apr 22 2012 3:43 pm EST
Of course, the NHL is a joke of a league. To allow hits from the side that clearly target the head........a joke. If we are going to lose tomorrow, we need to goon it up and treat them the way they have treated us. Take a couple runs at their skill players.
Bob
Sun Apr 22 2012 3:39 pm EST
Can't give up now guys. I don't care if I predicted a Ranger loss in game 6. Gotta have a rally and believe. Rangers have done well in Ottawa this year. Rangers need to bring it back to the garden. LETS GO RANGERS!!!!
KIS
Sun Apr 22 2012 3:37 pm EST
The mistake happened at the deadline, especially not getting Nash(I don't want Parise in the summer) Then the second big mistake was game 2. The Rangers have not responded to the Boyle beating. It gave Ottawa the mental edge and confidence. This is a physical sport, you cant be passive especially with a shitty PP. The Rangers should have beat up Ottawa the very next game.
KIS
Sun Apr 22 2012 3:34 pm EST
Hospo, I think Slats and Trots believed they had back up or depth but they were in youngsters Erixon and Kreider. Although both my have POtential neither have experience.
KIS
Sun Apr 22 2012 3:31 pm EST
Jakey, could not agree with you more. Icould not have said it better myself.
LetsGoRangers
Sun Apr 22 2012 3:05 pm EST
Love reading you guys. Alot of good points today but the overall is that Rangers were way overrated all season. Still no finishers. Not enough speed. BTW, Stall clearly not the same player since the concussion. Fedotenko done. And most of all, Torts never took his foot off the accelerator all year. Foolish. Regular season means squat. Just get in. Nobody gives a rats ass if you're #1 or # 8. Home ice is bullshiit, almost a liability. And lastly, the King is a very good goalie. But he's been the 2nd best goalie in this series. Every Stanley Cup has to steal at least a round or two, when his team is being outplayed. King still hasn't done that. All said, if we win tom'w, one game series. If we're out, exceedingly disappointing season.
jakey
Sun Apr 22 2012 2:49 pm EST
Looked it up. Bobby Sangui-fucking-netti. Also passed on Lucic. Other teams make errors too but I dont care about them. And Slats has perfected it. The Jessiman catastrophe chief among them.
Nick
Sun Apr 22 2012 2:39 pm EST
Fred, was it Slats who dealt Knuble for Rob DeMaio? That was 240 goals ago for the K-Man. He was a late bloomer of sorts but still was twice the size of DeMaio. Also ... what stiff did we draft while Giroux was still on the board?
Nick
Sun Apr 22 2012 2:26 pm EST
Pittsburgh out, Boston could be out in a matter of hrs. Would suck to screw this chance up against Ottawa...
Ola
Sun Apr 22 2012 2:24 pm EST
....I wanted Knuble when we had Knuble......
MelvilleFred
Sun Apr 22 2012 2:12 pm EST
Rhet: I dont want to take out anyones star players either, and me thinks that the concensus on this Wall feels the same.... BUT when you take out the dirty players and goons only, you not going to clean this type of shit out of the game.... IMO only when all teams know that their stars are fair game, will there be a "cold peace" an unwritten code, "No Head Shots when you can Avoid Them..... Neal COULD have put a real good CLEAN Highlight Reel check into Bpyles Shoulder or mid section and many folks would have applauded the hit.... thats what I/We want to see.... the game is rough & tough enough.....
mf
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:58 pm EST
Pens go down without a fight....Does Crosby's stock drop after this one or what? Would like to be happy about this but Rangers status right now makes it hard to be....
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:27 pm EST
Hospo... I actually thought you were talking about him after I brought him up before the deadline (GMTA)... but I guess that would also require people actually reading my posts :)
Rhet0ric
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:20 pm EST
But Mitchell, who I walways hated, was everybody's fair haired boy during the season..He's an AHLer ...a Maple Leaf reject...nothing lower than that...
Hospo
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:19 pm EST
Rhet - You wanted Knuble? Then why was it me that was getting poked and ridiculed for suggesting him about 5 times .(.Even though not always serioeuly.)..:)
Hospo
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:17 pm EST
Rhet...Not just Knuble but Henry Mitchell would look better than Mitchell right now....He has been a horror show for how little he has played...
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:17 pm EST
NIck _ np doubt the Rangers were just a more cohesive and disicplined team duringthe first few months and why they won alot...But in Feb-APr, other teams ramped it up and got serious, making it more difficult...Still the EAST was alwasy wide open and the Rangers hd as good as chance as any even if they aren;t a greatteam...As od now, they and their coaches have blown it,....RHET - Sorry, I don;t care about taking out goons if the ygo after players like Boyle, cripple waht really hurts..I would love to see the faces of Ottawa fans if the Rangers took out Karlsson.....That's the one thing physically that has bothered me this series...They didn;t go after him enough...But, like I always felt, the Rangers are just not strong, nasty or dirty enough for the POs...
Hospo
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:12 pm EST
KIS....You are right....Those precious draft picks we held onto don't seem so important right now do they....Sather did nothing to prepare this team for a playoff run....Even the lousy depth we did have was traded....
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:11 pm EST
PA... I know you're mad (I am too), but Lundqvist has played really well... He did give up a bad goal yesterday, but the Rangers did noting on chances with Anderson... ESPN was trying to put together a clip montage of Anderson's saves yesterday and had a hard time doing it because none of them were extraordinary... They were at his feet or to his midsection... our anemic offense has returned! ...KIS... I at the very least wanted Knuble... we could've had him for nothing off waivers... he scored the other night and would look better to me than Mitchell right now.
Rhet0ric
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:11 pm EST
KIS - Yeah, Gaustad was expensive but you can't win, if you do not pay...Other optons like Vermette, Pahlsson, Moore and others were much cheaper.....Yeah, I was screaming for a PP QB and a physocal D-man all year...we got noether...Nor a winger, even a KNUBLE would have helped...The Rangers acted like :a) They really didn't care about this year's POs; or 2) There were never going to be injuries in the POS; or 3) They had faith and confidence in their bottom players and what they had in CT (WRONG!!!). or all of the above...As Uncle ed would say....Pitiful...Ptiful...Pitiful....So we have Torts goes ahed and plays Bickel 3 minutes a night..barely playing guys like Kreider and Mitchel (deservedley) and Rupp..Nah, we didn't need ahelp...Oh i forgot, we need the preciosu 3rd round draft picks...,,,,The team is shallow, no bench and undermanned (by TORT's decision and strategy) every game...and it gets physically and mentally tired at the end of games..No wonder it has lost in OT twice and couldn't come back late last night...Way to go Slats....Way to go Torts....
Hospo
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:09 pm EST
Goals are so easy when the oppo goalie sucks. Of course we make Andrrson look like Sawchuk so we'd be doing the same against Fleury ( horrific yet again today) or Bryz. And I know I'm asking the wrong group here, but why is Syd so sucky in this series? And please don't say he's 'overrated.' He is invisible. It's amazing and it pisses me off that as Van, Boston, Newark, Detroit and Pitt go down, clearing the way to some extent, we can't beat freaking Ottawa. Truly our squad was above their head this year and I said it all along not that I am any expert. But how that roster won 50 games is a bigger mystery than Roswell.
Nick
Sun Apr 22 2012 1:03 pm EST
I don't want to take out anybody's star player, I just want to get even with Neil and Carkner.... send a message and hopefully change the course of the game... Only 12 Rangers on the ice today for the "optional" skate... after the lack of effort on the forecheck yesterday, I would've made it mandatory, but that's just me... I'm glad the rest of the team felt they played well enough to take the day off.... moving on... I would use the following lines for tomorrow.... Hagelin-Richards-Gabrorik... Kreider-Stepan-Callahan... Fedotenko-Dubinsky-Prust.... Anisimov-Mitchell-Rupp... Dubinsky is the closest thing we have that can fill Boyle's shoes... just have him focus on hitting and creating overall havoc... maybe get a chance or two from the fallout... Kreider has looked better with each game and looked more confident... I like him playing with Cally.
Rhet0ric
Sun Apr 22 2012 12:53 pm EST
Hospo,What is sad about the trade deadline, is that you and I were both wanting Gaustad. He is now winning all the draws for Nashville. we both also said Gill would have been good for this team as well. But nothing was done except the rangers giving up a 5th round pick for somebody who doesn't play. Scott was supposed to help Rupp and Prust yet the Rangers have gotten punched in the mouth by Ottawa and they have done nothing about it. This is what you get when people want to keep every fuckin youngster. shit I just want players that canplay and win
KIS
Sun Apr 22 2012 12:51 pm EST
Looks like Pittsburgh will be done today... Flyers up 4-1 with 4:00 minutes left in the 2nd.
Rhet0ric
Sun Apr 22 2012 12:45 pm EST
My 2 cents worth: Capt. Callhan has to call a closed door meeting, no coaches, and hear the team, and make the concensus known to every player, This is the only 60 minutes of hockey that means jack-shit.......... Mr. Hospo, we play to win the game, thats the short term goal with the next term goal being to win the series......... Next, Big "IF", we are clearly not going to win, we go for option #2) BLOOD! ...... We run Spaezza, Karlson, Michaelek,..... Torts should yank Hank, insert Biron, and then we should run Anderson..... its called street justice..... NEAL had every chance to nit choose to hit Boyles head.... He CHOSE to HEADHUNT! This is the crime!.... Shanahan, we have no respect for you, get that through your PotatoHead Skull. what you accomplished as a player means nothing now. Nada, Zip, Zilch!..... A loud & clear message must be sent, you fuck with our boyz, you pay.......... It is way obvious that BUng-Holio ButtHead Buttphuck Buttman has it in for Torts & in for Dolan..... So if Torts pulls Hank, this whole retaliation is going to look premeditated.... So, Torts go to the mens room, let the players do it.... End of story..... AFAIKnow, theres nothing in the rules that say the players cant make that decision..... We need to woop these boys on the scoreboard and physically..... LETS GO RANGERS !!!
mf
Sun Apr 22 2012 11:50 am EST
well the NHL just lost a fan. I'm just rooting for bloodshed throughout the playoffs now.. Fuck all the superduperstars I hope a few have career ending injuries. Fuck you Shitahan and double Fuck you Buttman!! I'm disgusted. Go toss off to the last remaining Canadian team and your sponsors!!!
NYStranger
Sun Apr 22 2012 11:30 am EST
PJ: More positives: Kreider is apparently gonna get more minutes! I know I'm pumped!
RF4L
Sun Apr 22 2012 11:17 am EST
Trying to find something to be positive about...Hagelin is back and should be fresh....Can we win tomorrow night? Just get this thing even....Ottawa will be nuts for game 6....
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 11:17 am EST
Hospo: I realize I'm letting my emotions get the better of me with regards to using game 6 for the kind of retribution I'm talking about. It should have happened in game 3. Scott should have been dressed and directed to go after Spezza or Karlsson. Tortorella blew it there, but unfortunately, it's one of several tactical errors he is guilty of in this series.
RF4L
Sun Apr 22 2012 11:12 am EST
ANd I said from the beginning after the incomprehensibe rulings on Hagelin amd Carkner that Sather needed to speak up, speak up for his team publically, call outthat scumbag Shannahan...The team wuld like it and what more could they do to the Rangers? Maybe not review a clear head hit to their MVP? Maybe let off the goal scorer of a future opponent rather then giving him the 20 games deserved? Sather ialready blew it at the deadline, at leaast show soem balls now and call out the shannahan..and screw this behind the doors bull shit,,,,
Hospo
Sun Apr 22 2012 11:10 am EST
HOSPO the nhl has let dirty intent to injure hockey win over talent and effort. They have now ruined the playoffs. It started a few years ago with that pos pronger. ....if you can't beat them, join them......make it shown the mockery it is........head hunt, go for the blood.......screw it........get buttman put in jail on theivery and an accomplice to attempted muder..........of players and hockey.......
stevielegs
Sun Apr 22 2012 11:02 am EST
I;m gathering from some posters on here that winning this round means nothing but the Rangers showing they are not sissis is all that matters (which they aren't).....My first reaction is you guys are niuts ..my second reaction ius, why not, Sather blew any chance for a Cup at the deadline, so why not go after Karlsson and SPezza and try to permantly injure them.....Do ti riught front of Neil...The NHL is a freaking joke...half the guys deserved to be concussed and I won;t be watching anyway after the Rangers are out....so screw the Cup...go for blood and brains......
Hospo
Sun Apr 22 2012 10:55 am EST
I guess I am blind or just don't get it....I have watched the Neil hit several times and it is a clear head shot with the puck long gone...One angle you can see the puck almost at the goal line when the hit occurs....Just obvious to me and the no hearing news make me crazy...Want revenge in a big way but if we get down early tomorrow night we are done.....This just plain sucks....
PJ
Sun Apr 22 2012 10:50 am EST
hagelin gets 3 for elbow, neil gets nothing for head shot......the nhl... and lb...http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/nhlpa_fix_this_mess_4MkSPEA13FP2otPSwjzpzI
stevielegs
Sun Apr 22 2012 10:47 am EST
before game 5 bs from the genius..".GM believes Rangers built for long playoff run" Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/gm_keep_truckin_0RTEzZMcUMk5Rx2XynH2JL#ixzz1smi9ylSu
stevielegs
Sun Apr 22 2012 10:42 am EST
If Boyle is concussed, there is no way I'd allow him to play Monday. We're talking about a mans life & career, RF4L:IMO You got it right, time to go after their star players, that's way more hurt. This BS with intent to injure will only stop when then players stop it with an unwritten code of ethics. Neil could have avoided Boyles head , NEAL CHOSE NOT TO! Every Ranger should hit Spezza, Michaelek, & Karlson.
mf
Sun Apr 22 2012 10:42 am EST
is that so?,,,,,,i call bs.................excuses.......spin a tale.... now he wants to give keider more ice time, the kid is a deer in the headlights....call up an experienced player......."“Obviously the power play stunk on both teams, so that’s a wash,” Tortorella said, referring the Senators’ matching 0-for-4 performance. “We just couldn’t find a way to score a goal.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/kreider_could_see_more_time_on_ice_SB2RlHswcDIae4kaeuWzNI#ixzz1smfkwBgJ
stevielegs
Sun Apr 22 2012 10:13 am EST
The "King" - $7,000,000 avg. annual. Mr.Anderson from Beavis & Butthead - 3,000,000 avg. annual. Hmmmm.... Not putting it all on Hank but I agree with a previous post. These guys go down tomorrow without a fight, stay the fuck in Canada and fucking rot from the inside like your fan-base is doing right now over your "equals" shit performance!
pa.rangersfan
Sun Apr 22 2012 10:03 am EST
NEIL blindsided Boyle and targeted his head... then after he was down, he gave him another shot to the back of the head... after the game Neil said it was a clean shot and Boyle's fault for not keeping his head up... unless he has eyes in the back of his head, there was no way he could've seen him coming... Do you have to be a superstar playing for the Pittsburgh Penguins to get any justice in today's NHL?
Rhet0ric
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:45 am EST
WILD... You are correct... our offer never even got considered and the rumored offer that Nashville did consider was to a team that was not on Nash's list... want to bet they pressure/extort him to accept that deal in the offseason? ....RF4L... You are 100% correct.... No more Mr. Nice Guy... I'm tired of taking the high road and I want my pound of flesh... Scott takes out Neil, Rupp takes out Carkner... The Sens have had it in for Boyle since Game 1 and have been going after him since...... The best revenge is winning the series, but I still want to leave our "mark" on them.
Rhet0ric
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:45 am EST
Dress Scott and have him take out either Spezza or Karlsson, seeing as Neil took out the Rangers best skater.
RF4L
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:43 am EST
Oops...wrong on the BB back for game 6....saying Neil will be game 6 (and no doubt looking to take out other Rangers)....
RF4L
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:41 am EST
Bob: Kypreos saying no suspension and BB will be ready for game 6....
RF4L
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:29 am EST
RF4L: actually it came to light that the peices you mentioned were the RANGERS last offer but CBJ wasn't considering it due tow better one that they eventually turned down...CBJ was stupid, they had a shot to, with one trade, make a core of young Players to build around...and they missed it. Dumb.
Wildcard
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:21 am EST
Faceoffs, Faceoffs, Faceoffs......... ***** IMHO I don't think dressing Scott does anything towards the goal of winning game 6 and then game 7. I wont run down the list of disappointing forwards for the Rangers, but, as has been said before, they have to make their presence known. A team thats success is built alot on outworking the other team has to realize that you don't outwork ANYONE in the NHL playoffs. Along with that work ethic they really need to add a sense of urgency and desperation that I think has been lacking this whole series from the Rangers. **** If I seen the Sens do their "little jump around" dance at the end of a game, I will.......well, I don't know what I will do but damn well know I will do something!! Okay, I'm ready...lets drop the puck for game 6,
RinkRat
Sun Apr 22 2012 9:16 am EST
It is 10:00 AM in the east and no hearing announced for Neil. Is anyone surprised?
Bob
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:46 am EST
If I recall correctly, the rumoured demand for Nash was Dubi, Miller, a first and one of McDonagh or MDZ. Sather apparently countered by agreeing to the first 3 but refused the latter and instead offered up Erixon. I wonder if Sather could make the deal now, he'd change his mind (and give up MDZ)? Hindsight is 20/20 but I know how I feel now (and I was glad he refused at the time)....
RF4L
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:38 am EST
Stevie: it is funny how bad Sather has been at the deadline deals. Made a couple of very good off season deals, but his deadline deals have been nothing short of disastrous. Not happy at all with this teams lack of energy and jump for most of this series. Last night they had more of that but still mostly perimeter play and little puck possesion time. Torts has to be held responsible for the dreadful PP. Just stop running Del Zero out there every time would be a big start, moron. His hard on for 4 th line grinders like Mitchel and Prust when we need more offense is mind boggling! We'll see more of the same shite come game 6. Question is can we win a close game again in this series? I say again, if these guys lose up in Ott. They better not bother comming back home to NY.
NYStranger
Sun Apr 22 2012 8:17 am EST
stevie: Re Neil's intent to injure style of play. Damn right and how interesting is it that Sather went after him when he was an UFA a few years back. If he'd signed with NY (instead of resigning with the Sens for less money) wanna bet that predatory nature would have been pressboxed/short-shifted out of him shortly thereafter?
RF4L
Sun Apr 22 2012 6:40 am EST
After going down 1-0 in a game like this, its tough to play. I don't want to jump on too many conclusions after a game like this, but its a bit worrying seeing us look like this...
Ola
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:59 pm EST
By their response to the Carkner-Boyle beat down, the NHL condoned the frontier justice that the Rangers must enact on Chris Neil and the Senators. Add to it the late, cheap hit by Greening on Gaborik and the Rangers should come out loaded for bear on Monday. If they cannot move on, they can at least restore their own dignity.
Bob
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:38 pm EST
BOB: Can't really disagree with any of your points. I was shocked BOYLE came back for that penalty kill shift. Pretty sure it was only one shift after the injury, but that was one too many.
chinstrap
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:37 pm EST
wildcard still think that they can win without a good pp?....this is not boston........someone in thr crowd called for sullivan's head as the pp coach ala pp perry pearn. ...... and there is still .no way they should be down 3-2, they have handed games to that bs team. ...but they are........but not out........
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:31 pm EST
and what's a shitahan to do in his colon light imitation. ....two assholes........then there's buttman the ultimate perfect asshole........neil gets away with garbage every season......he's a dirty intent to injure player. the game doesn't need that trash.
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:26 pm EST
Bob that was game 2, the coach has no intention of vengence, that's why kreider and mitchell are playing, and not scott, sather's bs never too tough move. he forced the kreider move, that's proven zero to minus 3 games. .....they better be men enough to at least get this to a game 7........
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:24 pm EST
RF4L--CHIN--it is on the coach, but it is also on the NHL for the measly one-game suspension for a sucker-punch attack. You can be sure that, if we dress Scott and he pulls a stunt like that, he will end up missing at least 10 games. Tortorella will also get suspended and fined again. Tell you what else, if Boyle truly is concussed, then the Rangers should be shot if he really played 3 more shifts after the injury. There is no doubt in my mind that Neil's hit was predatory, and aimed at Boyle specifically. However, Shanahan is much more likely to find an excuse not to discipline him, just like he did Weber and Neal. After all the bluster and tough talk all season, the Rangers have come up small against the Senators.
Bob
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:15 pm EST
It's a lot different when your backs are against the wall in the series. Probably not the best time to take a 5 minute major for revenge. As BOB said, if it gets out of hand, then go for it. I'd rather win the series than beat up Neil, but that's just me. Of course, doing both would be great.
chinstrap
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:11 pm EST
Hospo: Yep, so take a lesson out the Sens book and dress Scott on Monday and have him go after Neil, regardless of whether or not Neil accommodates him. I'm serious. That's how I'd respond to this if I was the coach. The turning point of this series was the Carkner pummelling of BB and how freakin' sad is that given the fact that it could easily have been addressed and wasn't. That is totally on the coach. Shame on him.
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:07 pm EST
HOSPO---the Carkner attack was never avenged. There WAS no time tonight. There will be on Monday though. If the game gets out of hand.......mobilize the goon squad.
Bob
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:05 pm EST
Michalek was Mitchell's man in game 4, and Pezza was his man tonight. Hank should have had the one tonight though.
Bob
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:02 pm EST
And BoB, there was no time and place to "avenge" the Neil hit on Boyle....THe dirtbag was obviosuly seeking revenge for the knee on knee hit...and it was premeditated...but i doubt Schmucko Shannahan sees it that way
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:02 pm EST
Hospo no argument except with the bad breaks, being out muscled and intimidated, with not enough scoring , the coach has not inspired nor led the way. Kreider has no business in these games . And it's probably the genius puppet asster . Including his deadline disaster
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:00 pm EST
Mitchell was right behind him, then just peeled off...He shouldn;t have seen the ice afterthat.,
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:59 pm EST
BOB _ Totally agree about the Strategy....both ways...The Rangers still have a chance if they keep up the forecheck like they fianlly wnet back to tonight.....And the Ottawa Coach uickly figured out the way to play was straight ahead, physiocal, win the FOs and control the puck...wearing down the smaller and short bench (by TOrt's and Sather's decision) Rangers,,,,,,,And you name those players, please add STEPAN to the list who was the wordt forward in the series until toonight..SOmething got him going....If it's something as little as linemates, the kid needs to upgrade his attitude a bit...
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:54 pm EST
Kis girardi was covering the puck handler . Mitchell was floating ...Only 20% win after losing game 5 going down 3-2
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:53 pm EST
STEVIE - Whos arfguing that? I have said at least 5 times how the first goal was all Mitchells fault for dropping his chck...again...But Hank still should have had that one...But, ifyou only let in one, I can't blame him for the loss
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:51 pm EST
KIS - I have no clue what you mean by"allowing the Sens and the NHL to beat up Boyle"...Carkner should have been suspended for 5 games and he gets hiot once by Neil in a game where the Rangers were the physical aggressors..I don't think for one iota that the Sens intimidated, scared, or ran the Rangers..I just think they are stronger...have stronger players..and when they controlled all the Fos ..they could just bang the crease, slot, Rangers and baords...less of that ws done tongiht when we fianlly forechecked......All that being said, Iagree that Torts has sucked during these POs bith his strategy, PP Diection. and the use of his roster..
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:51 pm EST
In a 7 game series, strategy matters. Not more than effort, but it matters. Ottawa had the Rangers break out figured out by game 2, and had players staitioned at where the puck was going to go while the Rangers made no adjustments so far. Same with their breakout....they studied our forecheck, and stationed guys about 10 feet from the boards to outlet the puck to. Add that to dreadful play by Anisimov, Dubinsky, Johnny Malkin and Fedotenko, and we aree where we are....one game from the Summer. Truth be told, we have been generally outplayed since the third period of game 1. We had the puck more tonight, but did not get anyone to the net and created nearly zero traffic. Wonder how Kreider felt watching 2.5 periods of abject futility whithout getting much of a chance to do anything. And, once again, we wore out the crest on the jersey of a scrub goalie, causing everyone to praise him as better than henrik and the second coming of Terry Sawchuck. Finally, no response to the attack on Boyle and the abuse Gabby has received gives them carte blanche, and now Boyle is out after another Chris neil cheap shot. This thing sure went down the tubes fast. Teams elevate their game in the playoffs. We cannot or otherwise have not.
Bob
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:50 pm EST
Blaming lundqvist is absurd . You have to score at least 1 to win . Tortorella is peeing the bed But so is the team
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:48 pm EST
Stevie not only mitchell but Girardi as well. He was moarking nobody and didn't come over fast enough once Spezza got behind the D. Hate fuckin Girardi.
KIS
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:46 pm EST
If Neil isn't suspended, you have got to send out scott and rupp to take turns and beat up Neil. Got to do something to take back the momentum and confidence. IF not my call of Sens in 6 comes true.
KIS
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:45 pm EST
Hospo it was mitchell who screwed up the 1st goal spezza went right by him They be better off with Scott or call up newbury or any body
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:44 pm EST
All though Torts has done many good things for the team, he has shit the bed in the playoffs. Rangers leading caps and he has a melt down with Avery and the Rangers lose the series. Now, since game one he has allowed the Sens and nhl, to beat up Boyle and now the most effective player will be out for the decisive game. I don't know if you fire the guy because who do you get?
KIS
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:43 pm EST
Wild: the guy has over 600 wins.... He can handle it....
mf
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:36 pm EST
Hospo...truer words were never spoken...the King continually puts our D in bad spots. He has made 0 progress in handling the puck.....and as you state...it is what it is.... the guy is the franchise.
MelvilleFred
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:34 pm EST
Dubinsky 18 minutes the $4.2 mil bust who the coach thinks he's golden or the kid has pictures
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:34 pm EST
WILD - ANd it is all Torts fault...You give a guy three minutes..all they are thinking of doing is trying no to screw up and trying no to commit a penalty..Torts has laid a giant egg in strategic coaching in these POs...Has used his personnel poorly....has them playingwith lack of confidence....and has beeen TOTALLY outcoached by the Snes guy......who played this kid Stone anywhere and everywhere...and ditto with his 3rd and 4th liners....Torts is as big a reason for this failure (up till now) as many pf the players....And p[ersonally, I don't trust his decisons nor his "favorites"...And the leadership from Cally has sucked also..TWO idiotice penalties tonight...
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:28 pm EST
Right now I'm hoping for Emminger over Bickle...torts likes him so there will be 6 D used, and Eminger doesn't panic with the puck like Bickle has done...and even with limited ice time I expect more physicality from Bickle, he just hasn't brought any... Hell, he turned away from finishing a check in the second period tonight...not ok.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:26 pm EST
mf: yeah cause we all know York would be able to handle coaching at the NHL level since he has done it so much. The NHL is not the NCAA. So you can't assume he would even get as much out of this team as Torts has.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:25 pm EST
Damn, sorry.......KIS - Hags for Boyle?....that's the extent of the bench.....or possibly, Emminger at D...Bickel at forward..and Hags for Krieder...just as long as we keep Mitchell in...
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:24 pm EST
KIS: Torts said Kreider would not automatically come out of the lineup...so maybe Mitchell...but it's probably moot if Boyle has a concusion he will most likely not play, so the lineup would stay the same but with Boyle out and Hags in
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:23 pm EST
KIS: BOYLE will likely be out with his concussion.
chinstrap
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:23 pm EST
And another thing that has REALLY hurt the Rangers this series is having a goalie that has no clue how to handle the puck....The last thing we want is to hold and freeze the puck when there is a chance for a goalie to move it rather then to just lose another face off...Not really a shot at The King, it just isn't his game, but just another thing hurting the Ranger
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:20 pm EST
who sits for game 6 since hags will be back?
KIS
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:20 pm EST
Wild: if we could get Jerry York to come up to the big leagues, I dont care if the door hit Torts in the rear or not, you go for York....
mf
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:18 pm EST
And another thing that has REALLY hurt the Rangers this series is having a goalie that has no clue how to handle the puck....The last thing we want is to hold and freeze the puck when there is a chance for a goalie to move it rather then to just lose another face off...Not really a shot at The King, it just isn't his game, but just another thing hurting the Ranger
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:14 pm EST
And could that last minute (up to the goal) be handled any worse? Other teams haven been coming so close or scoring, the Rangers had no clue, they had the wrong personnel in th wrong places, and they had tired personnel..Good job TOrts....and Way to blow your time out earlier on the worthless PP..
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:10 pm EST
CHIIN _ I agree that Rupp has had some good shofts in the POs and for that reason alone he should get more time..but overlall, i just don't think he adds anything...More then likely, MITCHELL will get like 15 minutes,,adn after the loss, the wortless twit can rip up the blackmail pictures of Torts with barnyards animals..I have no clue how he plays after the hings he does...he has been responsible or, at least, contributed mightly for TWO Senator goals this series..It's 3-2 Rangers with somebody else that might have been picked up at the deadline
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:10 pm EST
Hospo: that's why I say Stewart from the Blues...plates bigger than his 6-2 220+ size and this year he had a BAD year by all accounts with 15 and 15. Would have loved that from Dubi...yes Dubi had 34 points...but 10 goals...and 5 more Goals may have given them the first seed a few games earlier and let top guys rest a bit more down the stretch...and he's a better fighter than Dubi is...if he could be had for not too much I'd grab him up.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:07 pm EST
I'd rather the team play the wrong way and win a game. Don't want to hear the same bullshit. Time for Hank to back up everybodys love for him and steal not one but 2 games. Other wise I still think we don't need an 8 million dollar goalie. He is good but I'd rather spend some of that money elsewere. Anybody change their mind and want Nash for Dubi, Del Zero, a first and stepan? And I HOPE stepan can be as good as Nash.
KIS
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:07 pm EST
That should read if BOYLE is out. Not RUPP.
chinstrap
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:05 pm EST
HOSPO: The one thing we really disagree on is RUPP. I don't put him in the category of the other worthless goons you mentioned. He has some ability to play a regular shift if needed, he's not terrible at all. He's actually made for this time of year, but for some reason TORTS won't use him. Not making excuses for the guy, but it seems like his knee still isn't 100% from what I hear. Either way, they'll need his big body going forward if RUPP is out. Let the guy play and see what happens. Better than PRUST for 18 minutes. Split that time.
chinstrap
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:04 pm EST
wild/evets - If youy wanna start talkin about next year, the Rangers have alot of talent, but they need certain pieces the ydon't have in their organization ..and why any of DZ,Stepan,AA,Dubi are and should be tradeable for th right piece
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:03 pm EST
Just got home from the Whale game, where they beat the baby Islanders 3-0 in Game 2 of their first round... CAM TALBOT had another 40+ save night to land him back-to-back shutouts. He's got 83 saves over the first two games. Bridgeport cannot crack him. As the first round of the AHL playoffs is a 5 games series, the Whale have a chance to complete the sweep tomorrow afternoon in Hartford. Goal scorers for the Whale were JONATHAN AUDY-MARCHESSAULT with one, and MAREK HRIVIK with 2. RYAN BOURQUE also had a really solid game again, too. JT MILLER made his pro debut tonight. I'd be interested in seeing his official icetime count...it didn't seem like he had much. If he did, I'd be shocked...he was invisible for most of it in that case. He took a penalty on his first shift. And I don't know if they actually gave him an assist on the first HRIVIK goal, but he did some nice work behind the net that led to it. He did just join the team, and I don't know if he practiced with them, so he may need some time to adjust. One of my new faves, STEVIE MOSES, was a scratch to make room for MILLER...so that was a little disappointing. Game 3 at 5pm tomorrow...
Dineen11
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:02 pm EST
Torts should NOT be replaced. That's jumping the gun. It's the first really good regular season they have had, and you can't expect him to run them with no problems on the ice at all times...add to that he can't score goals...guys had chances and didn't cash in....that's not the coach. Yes you can point to the PP, but that's just one thing...now if this happens again in a year...no PP struggle in the PO than you look at getting rid of him, but again, the SENS matchup really really well against the Rangers, they have the right players the counter the rangers style...so that needs to be put in the equation...and it's not like the Rangers have played bad...and they have worked hard...so he has them ready to go...that's all he can really do. It's the players jobs to perform on the ice.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:02 pm EST
Sather hs whiffed on every goon in rcent imes....Brashear, Boogeyman, the useless Rupp (overall--i know he had some good shifts) and Scott....Winnign fights means nothing. you need big, strong guys that can skate and hit...
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:01 pm EST
Wildcard... I completely agree with you regarding Dubinsky and Anisimov. They both need to go in the offseason... I hate to skip to talk of the offseason, because I actually think the Rangers are going to take the series, but I think the Rangers have to move those two at the draft, possibly moving up and then go after Parise on July 1st.
evets1980
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:57 pm EST
Might as well have kept that 5th round pick.
NYStranger
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:57 pm EST
KIS - what we lack is a creative player on the backkline BIG TIME...Whate we lack upo front is a big body forward with skill and, obviously, a FO guy who can play 3rd-4th line...
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:56 pm EST
Hospo: Chomper always knows best because everyone else is a moron.
NYStranger
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:54 pm EST
CHIN - yep, maybe Gabby and Richards and Dubui and Cally can earn some of thei coin? Boyle was a beast and a leader...But you know, there are no injuries in the POs, we never needed to aquire any depth..even when they damn well knew their AHL farm was utterly devoid of NHL talent.....Crappy GMing if you ask me...
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:54 pm EST
Like I said Dubi needs to be traded because he just isn't getting it done...AA because he doesn't fit this team, he's a good player, but. OT with this team, needs a more offensily minded team. Dubi and AA for Stewart and a second(or 3rd) from the Blues.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:53 pm EST
If the rangers lose this series you have to seriously concider replacing Tortarella. I know this team had a really nice reg season and almost won the Pres Trophy, but this series has been horrible for the coaching straff. Contant changing of the lines at even strength, then keeps on sending out the same 5 guys on the PP when they have totally shit the bed all series...no. All year! Doesn't allow our tough guys to do their job when the time calls fo it and continues to gain the ire of the League front office with his mouth, as if the commish doesn't have it in for us enough already. - this is comming from someone who contributed to Rodent's Torts we got your back fund.
NYStranger
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:53 pm EST
i agree wild. the sens lose in 5 to next opponent
KIS
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:52 pm EST
probably biggest problem for the rangers is not many creative players. all teams cut down the mistakes and play defensively but then some have creative players like karlsonn and gonchar plus michalek and spezza. The rangers have richards. gabby is not he is a sniper thats it. Mcd has some creative skill but not enough. the rest of the rangers are just hard workers and they are getting out worked
KIS
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:51 pm EST
Hospo: Some teams match up better than others...not an excuse REALITY AND FACT. Try living in the real world....your going to tell me that VAN has a long way to go? The kings are NOT that good, they are an ok team nothing more, they just matchup with the Canucks well...the Bruins SHOULD beat the Caps, and they are in the same position as the Rangers, the Caps have played like crap this year, and haven't been much better in the playoffs...so the Bruins have a long way to go? Come on. Get of the BS crap and realize that some teams are harder for certain teams to beat than others...Rangers probably beat the Caps in 5 this year, Bruins probably do the same to the Sens...matchups mean so much sometimes.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:47 pm EST
HOSPO: Just saw BOYLE was concussed. Not good at all. More PRUST in the Top 9. Sweet. 2 months ago if anyone told me that losing BRIAN BOYLE would mean more than almost any Ranger forward, I would've told you you're crazy. Now I can honestly say its the truth. Time for others to step up like BOYLER did.
chinstrap
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:46 pm EST
Hospo...The league is looking at the hit as they should....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:44 pm EST
CHIN well, at least we saw the same game! Made the same comments on Prust and Mcd...Girardii looks spent and beat..but that's what happens when you have zero depth.....Have no clue about DUBI...he does some good physical things but his hoceky snese and skills seem to have deteiorated.........And does anybody really thionk the NHL even looks at the Neil-Boyle hit?
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:43 pm EST
Top: I said high quality shots...and Anderson had to be large on a bunch of them...not high quality chances, there were something between 4-6 chances that were good for both teams, OTT got one the Rangers didn't. But they DID have 10-15 shots from good scoring areas and a few tips...if just one goes in they win, because OTT would have been on their heals with the crowd going nuts. At least I see it like that...course we can't know.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:42 pm EST
Ranger fans really over value their players. Dubi sucks. artie ust have been benched. Prust has done nothing.Prust has been a waste. How do you take a offensively gifted player like DZ and make him the tough guy defender. Not one rush up ice all series long. so disapointing
KIS
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:40 pm EST
Rangers lost this series in game 2. They did nothing but turn the other cheek. It allowed Ottawa to gain confidence that they were not going to get beat up. Since then Neil scored an OT winner, been a force every noght and now concussed Boyle. Good job torts. Don't let rupp do his job. Good thing this club got Scott for reinforcement and he hasn't played. This team has been beaten by the hungrier team. The bully ranger's got punched in the mouth and coward like a bully in real life. At least stepan played better. how does a minor leaguer like Kanopka play such a major role in this series.
KIS
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:40 pm EST
WILDCARD - more excuses and bullshit..Every team in the POs are tough...The Sens are a decent team, nothing else....You can't beat the,, you got a LONG way to go....
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:37 pm EST
Just back from the Garden, haven't read any posts, but I'm sure most people are freaking out. I have to say, I was really disappointed in the MSG crowd tonight. People pay good money and can do what they want, but IMO, booing your team in Game 5 after the first period when you're only down a goal is terrible. Yeah, the PP blew in the 1st period, but to turn on the team that quickly is just stupid to me. Whatever, to each his own, I guess. On the game, I'm sure a lot has been said tonight, so I'll just throw in my quick 2 cents. DEL ZOTTO was so bad I could barely watch. He played like he did last year. Terrible decisions, bad plays, just brutal. STEPAN had by FAR his best playoff game as a Ranger. He might not have generated a ton of offense, but he took the body, made some great defensive plays, and blocked a few shots. Really nice to see he can step up the physical/playoff style hockey. Didn't know if he had it in him. MCDONAGH needs to be on the first PP unit right now, if only because he's the only defenseman who can rush the puck up ice and skate through some guys. I'm so freaking sick of the stupid play where they get to center ice and then drop it to the trailer. Guess what guys? IT DOESN'T WORK. STAAL was pretty good again, nice to see him coming around. I gave DUBI a long rope and hoped he'd get his shit together in the playoffs, but I just don't know what's wrong with the guy. He had some chances, but not necessarily because of anything he did. He's seemingly lost all confidence with the puck and can't seem to make any plays. He's become a bigger version of PRUST. Ah, PRUSTY. Love the heart, but as I've mentioned time and again, he might have some of the worst puck skills of any Top 9 forward in the league. If he's out there down a goal in the last 4 minutes, your team is in trouble. Penalty or not, I'd rather see RUPP get at least half of PRUST'S minutes. That big body makes a difference in the playoffs. PRUST tries his ass off, but he's small and not skilled. Not a great combo. Also wasn't a good night for GIRARDI, but I'm willing to give the guy a pass, he's played his heart out all year. Never knew how much we'd miss HAGS, but we do. And here's to hoping BOYLE is ok. If not, even if we win this series, we're in trouble. Sadly, he's become one of our 3 best all around and most indispensable forwards. That's enough out of me. Hopefully "Team Resilient" shows up on Monday. No time for people to jump ship, still have a shot.
chinstrap
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:37 pm EST
Wild we had 10-15 "high quality" chances?!? I dont think we had 5. But so it goes, we know what we have to do on Monday :)
Topovski
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:37 pm EST
RHET _ without a doubt, and why I wen on a tirade...but I still thought we had enough to win a round or maybe two (I still think we beat the FLyers anytime we play them),,..and no way they should be losing to the Senatorss..I'm sorry.,
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:34 pm EST
OH yeah, Mitchell needs to be strung up by his balls.....steapn was fantastic......The Rangers are tough..The Rangers can not be intimidated...The Rangers hit as much as any team in the game..but they just aren;'t strong......Like I mentioned yesterday, I hope we get a strength coach that gets a hold of guys like McD, DZ, Girardi, Stepan, A, Hagelin, Dubi and Krider and other...Thay all need some muscle....Either that or we need to bring in a few strong guys, top liners and bottom liners
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:32 pm EST
Per Torts Boyle concussed and is "out". So hopefully Neal is out as well...and Hagelin moves back into the lineup. Anyway...the Sens are the team that match up the best out of any team in the NHL I think. Them and the PENS...but I'm more confident against any team compared to the Sens and did not want this matchup.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:31 pm EST
These comparisons to 94 make me laugh there IS NO Comparison folks DONT HAVES LEETCH,MESSIER,ZUBOV, GRAVES KOVALEV should I continue. We do have a great goalie for sure. But we are lacking two solid scoring lines. Period. In any case we stil may win series who knows. how about a suspension for Neils shoulder to head hit. NHL and REFS are a complete JOKE
vcp94
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:30 pm EST
PJ... There goes the Playoffs for us... Neil better get suspended for the rest of the series.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:30 pm EST
Some positive news, Hagelin returns
RangerGraham
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:29 pm EST
Hospo... Let's be totally honest... didn't you think there was no chance we would win a cup after we did nothing at the trade deadline... I did.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:29 pm EST
Boyle has a concussion....Torts just said on postgame.....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:28 pm EST
TrueBlue10:another stupid comment. The Rangers over the last 5-6 years have built a very good team through the draft, and there Ardmore players on the way. It was the Rangers people who got McD in the Gomez deal...and you can't tell me signing Gabby and Richards were bad moves...they also found Giradi when others overlooked him. The blues are great, but haveweaknesses just like the Rangers...
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:26 pm EST
We exaggerate either way, depending on the outcome...Thought the Rangers played a decent but not great game outside the PP, the FO circle and the coach..And their goalie outplayed The KIng......But the bottom line was Our stars can't produce...our Captain takes two undisciplined penalties....our D had a horrible time handling the puck...We have a puely finesse PP..no bangers..nd no PP qB..hard to be succesful....and the total incompetnece on the FO circle is the main reason we are down in the series...The Snes can play an entierley different way knowing they win most FOs...Something so small is huge...II was willing to give up a bunch of draft picks att the deadlien for many parts-..decent winger, a 3rd-4thliner-FO guy-- a 3rd [air d-man.....we got squat........and why teis team has Zero depth...why torts doesn't have confidence in all his players ...and why our guys get tired at the end of the game (did you see Dirardi and Gabby--they didn't have a chance)...And, yes, why was Prust AND Girardi out there towards the end of the game......I love Prust's heart but he might have the worst hands in the NHL.....I have focused on the Negatives becasue these ar the things the team needs to fix to win...but they still carried the play for the most part and have a chance to win the next two games.....Don't know if it really matters becasue, as I was worried aout coming inot the series, this team is just not deep, strong nor nasty enough (especially at the top) to grind out PO run...
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:23 pm EST
How can a player that gets as little playing time as Mitchell have such a negative impact....Talk about someone who needs to go...Don't even want him on the Whale...Get him out of the organization....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:19 pm EST
JD for GM, congrats to him and his Blues for moving on tonight. Wish someone in this organization knew what they were doing.
TrueBlue10
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:18 pm EST
And yes. It was a 41 save shut out that wasn't as hard as 41 shots...but at least 10-15 Rangers shots were high quality, and Anderson had to be large quite a few times. It's not like it was 5-0 and he had no pressure. But the rangers must play better Monday to force a game 7. Also...it's just after a crap game by a few guys, but AA and Dubi should be moved in the offseason. Get afar soft specialist for the 4th line to take those monster draws...and bring in another big wing...I would also say, even though I like him...Prust doesn't bring enough, hard worker, can PK and fight, but bring in someone else who can bring a little more O in his game. I say that even if they get the next 2 and win the cup!
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:17 pm EST
94 team had a power play this team for whatever reason I can't figure out has not had a power play all year. That's really the difference.
barto
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:16 pm EST
Two even strength goals in last four games just doesn't cut it....Watching the replay again of the Neil hit on Boyle has me furious...A deliberate head shot and no call....Dave Maloney throwing a fit about all of the officials missing it....Watch Neil shove Boyle in the back of the head while he is laying face down....Hell I would like to go after this prick...
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:11 pm EST
barto: even average the rangers have won 4 out of 7 all year...they could still win this series...very difficult now, but they did it in '94, so until they are eliminated they can win. But you can't say it's a fluke that they are the top seed just because they are struggling now...because with that "logic" the Canuks are a fluke and so are the Bruins...It's called parody...there are 8 teams in each conference that could win in each conference.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:10 pm EST
Well, this pretty much blows. Cup is wide open but ... not optimistic. Truthfully once we wen't down I figured I've seen it all before. Didn't think we played poorly but that was the easiest 40-shot SO in a long time. Hank made 5-6 stellar saves to keep us in but might have had the Spezza goal. Oh well. At least NJ and Tyranny Tim and VAN might go down, and of course one of Pitt or Philly. But it's hollow and no real fun this year ... I thought we had kind of a shot despite a wildly overachieving regular season. Wrong again Nick!
Nick
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:09 pm EST
Well....that will teach me to be optimistic....they played about as good as they are going too but can't beat Anderson???!!! Jaaaaayyyyyzus. Call me crazy but I still think we win this series.
MelvilleFred
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:08 pm EST
I had been bagging on Stepan big time lately.....Truth is he was our best forward in this game by far...We win easy if everyone gave the effort he did tonight....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:07 pm EST
Wild the team had a winning record a great record but what does that have to do with winning a series. The last month of the regular season was average at best.
barto
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:07 pm EST
Something I am tired of in the NHL. Starting in the second. The refs let both teams get away with so much, it's every game, it's annoying. Call the rule book regardless of what game it is or the score or the time of the game. Do your effen job! This game wasn't affected by it, but others are...and I'm tired of it.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:07 pm EST
good night all...I am disgusted
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:07 pm EST
The difference is simple.. we have 2 games with leads we can't hold.. and now Ottawa holds a lead to win....we are suppose to be the superior defensive team ... if nobody but Boyle can scorean even strength goal then it's over....
sjw
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:03 pm EST
Very few leaders and lots of spectators....including the coach....this just sucks
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:02 pm EST
PJ... We have a nasty habit of making a good goalies look great far too often for my tastes.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:01 pm EST
To me its irrelevant that the Rangers outhit the Sens. What they didn't do was address specific players, mainly Neil Konopka and Carkner. In the regular season they did because then fights are always the result via challenging over the top physical play. In the POs you can't do that. Instead you do to Ottawa what those 3 did to the Rangers. For whatever reason the Rangers didn't. I don't understand why. Is it the coach? Is it that the Rangers players like those 3 aren't dirty enough? Its another huge failing here. And I'm talking past tense cuz they are done.
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:01 pm EST
There was a lot of blame to go around tonight... the forechecking was NON-EXISTANT... can't survive while losing Face-offs, with a Non-existant Power Play and No Forechecking... Outside of Stepan, Richards and McDonagh... the rest of this team should be disgusted with themselves.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:01 pm EST
do you really think this team is capable of winning the next 2?? I dont
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:00 pm EST
Wild...A large majority of our shots were right at him...We didn't get him moving side to side much at all....He had a very good game but nothing spectacular....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:59 pm EST
barto: sorry...that's stupid...plain and simple. Even down the stretch when teams ramped it up the Rangers still won more than lost...and when a game is 1-0 it's close...and this game the Rangers outplayed the Sens more than in any other. To say the second best record is a fluke is just wrong...also, just to remind everyone...MANY teams struggle as the higher seed their first run with it...the only fluky thing may be the number 1 seed in the east vs the number 2,3,or 4 seed....but to write off how well this team has played all year is just dumb
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:58 pm EST
Al is an idiot! Dubi is not even in the playoffs....As for Anderson, we need to challenge the crease and we don't. Where is Adam Graves when you need him. Torts playing the 4th line and 3rd pair D so inconsistent is a major issue too....
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:57 pm EST
Just wondering who the guy behind the bench is posing as John Torterella ?? He looked completely defeated tonite.....and instead of signing million dollar men how about signing someone , anyone who ca win a faceoff !!!
94adistantmemory
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:56 pm EST
The Sens 3rd & 4th line are out playing our first two lines. Ugh !!!
HamiltonHellhounds
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:55 pm EST
Al Trautwig just said Dubi had a great game???
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:55 pm EST
Top: except Konopka is a career like, 56-57% on faceoffs, it's the only reason he gets contracts, and Anderson does this, he had a 51 save SO against the sharks in the PO with the AVS, he either is the best goalie on the planet or the worst...he's rarely in between. Yes the Rangers should have played better, but MOST times you put 40 on Anderson he gives up at least 2...face it...he had a career type game...let's hope the Rangers can get one more on the road...
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:54 pm EST
over paying for faceoff wins!! Would've been nice
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:53 pm EST
All the pessimists got what they wanted...we were the better team and we lost. I liked it much better when we were the worse team and won. Sorry, I am real bitter right now.
pete
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:52 pm EST
No we didn't need to make any moves at the trade deadine....Too expensive as teams wanted some draft picks for someone who could take faceoffs....Preds may have overpaid but I believe they have moved on to the second round already....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:51 pm EST
I agree on Dubinsky...was pissed at him for his hold out and cockey attitude....he cant back it up and now we can't trade him!!
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:51 pm EST
Im always optimistic when it comes to the rangers but the reality is they don't have the talent on this team to make it to the next level. Their record is a fluke and proof that other teams just didnt clamp down as hard during the year.
barto
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:50 pm EST
Rangers fans deserve better this year...disappointed to say the least
NYStranger
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:49 pm EST
WOW...only the rangers can make Zenon f*^&%ing Konopka and Anderson look like all-stars!
Topovski
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:49 pm EST
Another epic choke by the Rangers. Been around long enough to see many of them. This is just another brick in the wall of the many chokes. Henrik sleeps to start the game, gives up one, plays great but cannot be bailed out by his teammates. Meanwhile, Tortorella has Prust out there with 2:00 to go. One more thing.......Brandon Dubinsky needs to be a healthy scratch on Sunday. He foiled about as many rushes as Craig Anderson did.
Bob
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:48 pm EST
this is so fuckin maddening!! Torts has sucked in the post season
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:48 pm EST
Nice: Spezza 2, Rangers nothing..... After you fire Sather, can we trade Torts for Jerry York please ?? We aint winning shit with Tortorella.... He would neuter TGO in his heyday.....
mf
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:48 pm EST
Looks like another typical New York Spring...
NYStranger
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:48 pm EST
My optimism not rewarded....Just pathetic to be honest....Shut out at home in our biggest game in years...Short circuited by a guy named Zenon Konopka who didn't dress for 20 of the last 26 games for the Sens.....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:47 pm EST
Wow. If these guys lose in Ott. they better not come back home...EVER!!!!
NYStranger
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:46 pm EST
there's gabby in the clutch !!! can pass a tap....
doct
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:45 pm EST
FIRE SATHER
MC
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:45 pm EST
guess we should have traded for Nash at any cost
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:44 pm EST
nice game by our stars
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:43 pm EST
Depression has officially set in. Another wasted year of bleeding blue.
barto
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:40 pm EST
where is Gabby?? Artie???
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:40 pm EST
Figuring Neil will get a small fine for that hit. Maybe a game knowing this league.
NYStranger
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:40 pm EST
NYStranger... Not just the PP, MDZ has been god-awful tonight.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:37 pm EST
I thought we brought in Rupp for games like this. I guess we have no answer for Neil.
barto
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:36 pm EST
Speaking of shouldas: Maybe shoulda included MDZ in that loot for Nash???
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:36 pm EST
My beer league team is better than the Rangers on face offs. They're killing us.
MC
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:35 pm EST
This one is one Torts for continuing to put Del Zero out on the PP! Neil is a POS.
NYStranger
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:35 pm EST
Lets hope Brian Boyle is not suffering a concussion here..... Someone needs to decapitate Neal......
mf
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:34 pm EST
My God MDZ is killing us....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:33 pm EST
Rhet, somehow the guy manages to avg a ppg... yeah the league is sometimes generous with the assists, but the guy keeps rackin them up..... Our whole in the donut has been tested throughout the season, and is surely being exposed in this series..... We needed to fill it..... Well, hindsight is 20/20
mf
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:33 pm EST
Whoopie..another Power Play.
DOUBLEN
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:30 pm EST
Rhet....Agreed we take good chances and do nothing with them....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:30 pm EST
MF... If we had listened to you back when we could've had him... there's no way they trade him now.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:29 pm EST
BTW: Feds is a defensive forward; Dubbie making 4 mil a year needs to score......Our offense sucks!!!!!
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:29 pm EST
Need to go all out now....Don't wait the season is on the line...
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:29 pm EST
Dammit, we need to test this guy, not continually shooting it at his mid-section or his feet.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:29 pm EST
Rhet: I can dream, can't I ? ..... ;-)
mf
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:25 pm EST
Artie chokes to 4th line
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:25 pm EST
Penalty....Dammit....Dumb move by Callahan...
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:24 pm EST
RF4L... We are not being dominated physically (hits 36-17)... we are just finding ways not to score like we've done all season long
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:24 pm EST
I have been watching this team since 1975 and I got excited too soon!!!
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:24 pm EST
Dubi fumbling the puck continually is killing us....Keep up the pressure....We can get one....Come on Rangers....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:22 pm EST
Boyle to locker room
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:22 pm EST
Duby and Fedetenko = bloody useless
MC
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:21 pm EST
MF... Who is going to want Dubi.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:14 pm EST
Must say I'm overly surprised about the PP problems and the scoring problems because the former has existed all season and the latter on and off all season. What is really disconcerting is how they've been physically dominated. Why? They match up with the Sens. What's the problem? Its confusing...is it the coach holding them back for fear if penalties??
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:13 pm EST
Hey Monk, welcome back....... We need another center.... Stepan, AA, Dubi, and our first for their 2nd & Spezza.... Then sign Parise, you can keep Nash.... We need another center..... Lets Go Rangers,... this is the most crucial period of the season
mf
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:11 pm EST
FerociousMonk94: sorry. The Olympics are right up there with an NHL playoff game when it comes to skill and especially pressure. And if giving up one goal tonight, and no more than 2 in any regulation, with a 1-0 shutout and 2 wins in 4 games is not good you should find a new sort. Hank is not the problem. It's offense and the PP, and some D issues that cropped up in the playoffs.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:07 pm EST
dugster...Agreed but right now we need a goal and have taken too many penalties already....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:06 pm EST
Hospo - this is the Rangers most important period coming up of their season to date. ;^)
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:06 pm EST
I have to agree this team is not as good as it looks on paper, Weak smallish forwards, second and third are pretty much interchangeable sans Callahan. Fourth line that cant skate or score. Next goal is the series either way.
barto
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:03 pm EST
When are we going to step up to Neil and KAnopka? I mean they have been running us for a few games now and its making me sick!!!!!!! Wtf??????
thedugster
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:59 pm EST
I was just gonna post a rant then read "DOCT" post... he hit in the mark... Gaborik looks scared out there... Stepan is a monster....
schneidw
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:56 pm EST
When are we going to step up to Neil and KAnopka? I mean they have been running us for a few games now and its making me sick!!!!!!! Wtf??????
thedugster
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:55 pm EST
I am pessimistic by nature....BUT we are almost done...can't even keep up with Ottawa, what the he...
rngrsans
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:49 pm EST
Sorry Wild, but amateur titles and individual awards don't mean shit in the NHL POs. He's not bringin it. He's a B+ at best.
FerociousMonk94
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:48 pm EST
Taking too many penalties...BS call though....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:45 pm EST
Strahlman has that hip check down...reminds me of kasparaitis
nyfans
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:40 pm EST
Play too wide open....Not our style....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:36 pm EST
RF4L: Alot of the shots are soft low shots to the net or the logo; Anderson might have had one or two tough saves.
DOUBLEN
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:36 pm EST
Doct... RICHARDS has been pretty awesome as well... could Dubinsky hit one F-ing empty net this season?
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:36 pm EST
Anderson has been very good...We aren't getting to the rebounds too often though....Hank has made a couple of huge saves to keep it at 1-0....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:34 pm EST
I see the Rangers are badly shooting the Sens. Lemme guess: mainly long and/or perimeter shots...
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:30 pm EST
Not able to watch but getting gross's twwets. 3 PP's in first for 0 goals. I said it about a month before the POs started - it will be this team's undoing in the POs and sure enough that's what's unfolding. I aint happy avout being right this time but saying it wasn't exactly rocket science. For sure it needs to be priority 1 in the off-season. Embarassingly inept. Decline the next one. Pleeeaaasse.
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:27 pm EST
stepan is maybe the best forward tonite for the rangers - now -- any chance gaborik could grow a pair !! and the rangers may be the worst passing team in the league.
doct
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:26 pm EST
FerociousMonk94: yeah hank has just won the SEL title and the Gild Medal...and we all know how easy that is for a goalie.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:15 pm EST
PJ...It's not cashing anything in. Even if they luck out and squeak thru this series, they are toast in the 2nd round. We know the attributes of a championship team. We saw it up close long ago, and we've watdched it from afar since. This team has none of it. No opportunistic scoring, impernetrable defense or goaltending, etc. I hate to say it, but it's true, IMO.
FerociousMonk94
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:13 pm EST
HOPSO... I have to agree, I would almost have rather seen SCOTT over Mitchell... He kills us a lot... I miss Hagelin.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:11 pm EST
We have seen this play before.
Bob
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:11 pm EST
Whoa....Way too early to cash it in....Just about all the top teams are having problems in round one....Stick with it and we will win this one and this series...Keep the faith...GO RANGERS!
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:09 pm EST
DOUBLEN - .Ottawas FO dominace is a key to this sereis....it helps them control the puck...We could have or should have gotten a FO guy or a 3rd pair physica D-man--or some forward depth...but we got John Scott...Hey, even that gyy Mike Knuble scored today,.....And I have to say this, HATS OFF TO DEIK STEPAN for his effort tonight...that's more like it!
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:07 pm EST
Unfortunately, it is what I suspected all season long. Overachieving by and under-manned team, only to be exposed in the playoffs and present a gift to a lower seed. Worst of all, Hank is proving he is NOT CLUTCH. He takes great pictures, poses well and gets the NYR into swanky magazine layouts, but he hasn't won shit and likely never will. 0-2 in overtime is not a good sign. For the team, not protecting leads in the 3rd is a very bad sign. Can't win faceoffs or score on the PP is a bad sign. It's gonna be an early summer.
FerociousMonk94
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:06 pm EST
I have no problem the way they played the 1st period...It's how they have to plat.....at ES....But the PP..Christ, god help us...We just don't have the personnel..don't have the PP QB..and the horse in front....LET MCD run it!......And the King lets in an EASY one...after all that hard work...but special thanls have to go to MINUS MITCHELL......Leaves his man on the backcheck...and presto chango the Sens have a 1-0 lead when the Rangers were better..I want MItchell dead....oh well, let's see what happens...hope we get no more PPs..
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:06 pm EST
We also could have used someone who can win a frickin faceoff.
DOUBLEN
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:04 pm EST
Dubinsky and del zero continue to unimpress
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:01 pm EST
barto... Yes, it's something that we really haven't addressed enough the last couple of years (outside of Richards)... we needed an extra scorer or two at the deadline and got nothing... A big slapshot from the point and a puck clearing D would also have been nice... Even if we were to win a cup this year, it still needs be addressed in the offseason irregardless... buck up though, we're only down one nothing.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:57 pm EST
rangers getting beat to the puck again. does gabby want to win. dump in and he's coasting. !! sens anticipating rangers dumps and passes better than rangers ..
doct
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:57 pm EST
Same old story...Our PP just not getting it done to the point crowd is booing....For crying out loud get MDZ off of the PP...He is just horrible out there....For the most part a good period otherwise...Have to solve Anderson...
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:57 pm EST
They did not come out with blood in their eyes
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:52 pm EST
Did they sneak someone into Stepans jersey? Wow. What a hit.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:51 pm EST
A few early observations. One the rangers lack or have yet to develop the talent needed to be elite. Two the rangers have way to many third and fourth line players. I know I'm stating the obvious but not feeling real Good about this one.
barto
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:33 pm EST
Hank stays on his feet, that shot doesn't go in......
mf
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:32 pm EST
Come on Hank....You have to outplay Anderson....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:27 pm EST
Hate being stuck with NBC and that tool Brian Hayward....He desperately wants the Sens to win this....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:21 pm EST
Fourth line great shift....Kreider a great chance....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:19 pm EST
Gaboric started this game off with urgency...I think he'll net one.
nyfans
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:09 pm EST
Emile Francis: "We know the enemy...Let them fear us.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:05 pm EST
Kreider's confidence seems to be growing it will be interesting to see what kind of D he plays tonight.... I would also love to see him cause some havoc in the crease... IMO, the 4th line needs to play more tonight just to keep the other lines fresh.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 6:00 pm EST
PJ.... Again? That's the 3rd time this series.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 5:52 pm EST
JT MILLER is in for the Whale tonight.
Dineen11
Sat Apr 21 2012 5:49 pm EST
OK, time for the East's #1 seed to out up or shut up. Also time for the 1%ers in the lower bowl to get off their asses and pay attention to the game.
Bob
Sat Apr 21 2012 5:48 pm EST
Heave Ho LET'S GO RANGERS
Jerry_Garcia
Sat Apr 21 2012 5:32 pm EST
Well let's not follow the Bruins lead tonight....Thomas made some unbelievable saves and then the game winner a soft one....Surprised no break as they go right back to Washington and play tomorrow....Could the Pens and Bruins both go out in round one?....
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 5:25 pm EST
you also cant forget that Torres has been suspended or fines 5 or 6 times before this...including 2 games in December for leaving his feet, and 4 games last year for a hit to the head....so he is also a MULTIPLE repeat offender, and hos hits have gotten worse each time. Yes Neal deserved more, but not as much a Torres deserved.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 21 2012 5:05 pm EST
Ron Duguay ia wearing drapes from a whorehouse......
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 4:46 pm EST
Torres 25 game in perspective to Keith's 5 games is pretty funny... Lol
Ola
Sat Apr 21 2012 4:24 pm EST
The right way....Find a way....LET'S GO RANGERS!
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 4:18 pm EST
I will try to report from the game tonight in the restaurant lubing up watching craps brewings
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 4:05 pm EST
I do not know how much betting takes place on NHL games, but I would assume that if the NFL had such arbitrary suspensions that the results on the betting would cause such an uproar that the league would be forced be more precise and consistent with their rulings. The swings in rulings on Weber, Neal and Torres would cause huge impact on bettors of the series (and ultimate conference and Cup winners) would never be tolerated if this were the NFL. Just a thought...
Ranger47
Sat Apr 21 2012 2:48 pm EST
Torres is the scapegoat here, I think (which isn't to say I'm excusing his actions, cause I'm not) - he's relatively unimportant to his team and because Phoenix is owned by the NHL, he's got no owner who's gonna call up Buttphuck and scream at him. This punishment helps solidify my belief that Cantahan's a puppet and Buttphuck often has a significant role in what punishment is doled out. Nashville has already moved on to the 2nd round - could they have done so with Weber suspended for the series (and more)? It's debateable and impossible to know for sure, of course, but I think it's safe to say it would have taken more than 5 games.
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 2:44 pm EST
I like Nashville also. I don't hate any of their guys (don't see them enough); they have always had a pretty good club; I like Coach Trotz with his huge bowling-ball head and no neck; and 'Martin Erat' is a good name ...
Nick
Sat Apr 21 2012 2:35 pm EST
Hospo I know you hate Pitt but Neal's hit was a love tap next to Torres. Of course Neal got the Weber discount but Torres should be jailed.
Nick
Sat Apr 21 2012 2:00 pm EST
25 games to Torres and ZERO games to Neal for the same play?. He should sue the hell out of the league fo bias......Hinestly, I don;t give two shits about tinjuries, these guys know what they are getting into..a more serious issue is the corruption, bias an incompetence in the rinky dink NHL
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 12:52 pm EST
RF4L---and I am in full agreement with your take on all of this..........the league and the BOG will finally get serious about this when someone is paralyzed or killed on the ice. Until then, they will have made little effort to curtail the head shots. My kid plays in HS here.......immediatley aftet the Jablonsky kid in MN was injured, they upgraded checking from behind and boarding from 2:00 plus a 10:00 misconduct to 5:00 and a game misconduct. That has been successful in sending a message to the HS kids.
Bob
Sat Apr 21 2012 12:30 pm EST
Rhet....No bias against Stepan as I am just pointing out what has been obvious in his game for a while now....TD....The fact we haven't trailed in regulation and are only 2-2 in the series scares me even more...We have twice blown the chance to be up 2 games in the series.....Oh and tonight certainly is a must game....No doubt in my opinion...
PJ
Sat Apr 21 2012 12:12 pm EST
I still believe to truly punish a player and his team. The offenders team should be dressing one less player for the amount of the suspension or in a lengthy suspension like Torres 25 games would be dressing 17 skaters for 5 games while Torres sits out the whole 25 games.
HamiltonHellhounds
Sat Apr 21 2012 12:11 pm EST
Bob: It's a substantial penalty, relative to all the other ridiculously puny ones (because if I had my way, Torres would have been banned from the league a while ago), but as you allude to, it'll be meaningless if the next infraction is handled like all the other ones preceding this. And I have zero faith in Cantahan and Buttphuck and their incompetent men that this isn't an anomoly.
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:49 am EST
Stevie: If the victim is Gary Bung-Holio, Napolean Complex, Robert Reich loving, ButtHead, there is no penalty...... Any takers ?
mf
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:46 am EST
what is the penalty for accidental murder?.....working for the nhl?........no injury, no big deal, small penalty.....intent schement.......great system........shanahan continues shooting from the hip.........
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:41 am EST
25 games for Raffi Torres. That's a lot of coin for him. About time they took some strong action. I guess they were waiting for an inconsequential player to throw the book at. They finally got one. It does not cover for the terrible job they have done. I have heard that, among Hossa's "upper body" injuries is a broken jaw.
Bob
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:36 am EST
Game 5 in a best of 7 series, tied up at two wins a piece.... The Rangers Backs ARE Against "THE WALL!" ...... Statistics prove the winner of game 5 win the series way more often.... Lets go Rangers, Wake up and knock the Senators outta the PO's.... They're not as good as us !!
mf
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:36 am EST
RF4L - I was thinking back to the World Juniors on BOURQUE. Back then, KREIDER was no where near the size he is now, nor as refined. All three Rangers on that gold medal-winning team had a really good series(STEPAN being the other one). In hindsight, yeah, it's easy to see where that forecasting could go wrong. I'm not convinced about your assessment on Bourque though. Like I said, the kid's had a real rough adjustment year. But he is only 21. He's got a good head on his shoulders and he does have some skill..but you're right...he is a tiny guy...and he's fallen so far down the depth chart I kind of doubt we'll see him as a Ranger
tdchi
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:27 am EST
Guys, I agree this is an important game. But must-win? Really? Couple things about this Ranger team. First, is that they've proven resilient. When the going gets tough, they get tougher. Second, they've show time and again that they can pull big wins when their backs are against the wall; when people are writing them off...I made the comparison yesterday and I'll make it again: This is A LOT like the 2008-2009 first round series against the Caps...only the Rangers are playing the roll of the Caps this time. Ottawa has gotten luck. Plain and simple. Have they played bad? Not at all. They've played very well and would be up against at least four of the eight teams in the playoffs right now (NJ, Florida, Washington and Boston)...the reason I remain confident is for the simple statistic that they've NEVER lead one second of one period in this entire series. And that seems to be a statistic all of you continue to ignore. Accuse me of being overly optimistic, but that's the tale of the tape, folks. Some of you are really putting this Sens team on a pedestal. Good, yes. Great? Hell no.
tdchi
Sat Apr 21 2012 11:01 am EST
E/RF4L... I said the same thing yesterday, it might not be an elimination game, but tonight is definitely a must win... TD... They do out number us with talented forwards so I could buy into that, even though we were very good 4 on 4 during the season... Unfortunately, Lundqvist is 1-7 in OT for his career... I don't know what the issue is, but he needs to start turning that around soon... otherwise, it will almost be like we expect to lose after regulation... PJ... you have to get over your bias for Stepan.... the team wont advance very far if we don't get him back on track... the GAS line was by far our best line for most of the season... I'm sure as soon as Hagelin is back, the FEAR line will be put back together.
Rhet0ric
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:49 am EST
Oh yeah; Preds win the Cup, book it! Nothing like having the champ of the greatest pro hockey league in the world residing in Nashville, Texarkana.
pa.rangersfan
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:46 am EST
I know that people always talk about getting home advantage for Game 7 being huge, but in a 2-2 series having home advantage for Game 5 is virtually as huge. Win tonight and you up the odds significantly to win the series (and at the least assure a home Game 7 if needed). Lose tonight and you are probably hitting the greens early like Ranger teams of recent times. Use the HUGE Game 5 home advantage well tonight,,,Let's go Rangers!
Ranger47
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:46 am EST
td.., I have a buddy also who mentioned Leighton. I told him he shouldn't be hard to find. He said "why's that?" I said I just saw him bagging groceries at the local Giant!
pa.rangersfan
Sat Apr 21 2012 10:42 am EST
I concur, the NYR must win this game. Whoever wins this game is going to win the series
E
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:44 am EST
TD: Those who mentioned Bourque with Kreider didn't know what they were talking about IMO. He's small and offensively, a 3rd liner at best. The odds are against him bigtime because of those 2 factors. He keeps getting hurt because he's trying to play a bigger man's game to make up for his lack of offensive. IMO, he's a fringe prospect, at best. Thomas has considerable more upside because of his offensive skills, but IMO, isn't too far ahead of Bourque, again because of size. He must learn how to be effective offensively without making himself vulnerable for hits. If he can't he's doomed and likely will end up constantly concussed. If he can, then his prospect of becoming a top 6 NHL forward goes up significantly - from what I've seen, he's got an NHL shot. He doesn't need to be mucking in the corners to try to bring the puck out (because he wont be able to) - he needs to find holes and use that shot when his center feeds him the puck.
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:37 am EST
Hospo: IMO, if the Rangers loss tonight, they'll loss the series.
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:27 am EST
RF4L - Normally, I'd disagree with you on the Pens, 'cause its a Herculean task coming back from 3-zip...so massive it's only been done four times in ALL professional sports...but after watching the Spaceman in this one, anything is possible. He is quite possibly the most overrated goalie in the NHL, second only to FLEURY....I mean, the Flyers got NO help at all from BRYZ last night...nothing. both of the last two Pens goals that went in would have been stopped by an AHL goalie. BOBO isn't any great shakes either...I have a buddy who is a Flyers fan who mentioned in passing that LEIGHTON will be starting by the end of the series. I think it was meant as a joke...but if you watched last night's game, it sounds like much less of a joke...on the WHALE...that's good news on BOURQUE...he had a rough season in Hartford, starting with his concussion and moving right into being all but ineffective on offense. Funny, 'cause he was one of the guys some were talking about in the same breath with THOMAS and KREIDER a few years back and he's really fallen off the radar...would be nice if he turned it around in the playoffs...As I think Dineen11 mentioned, JT MILLER is expected to make his Whale debut this weekend...beast defensemen Sam NOREAU was signed to a contract down there...If I remember from Traverse City, this kid wasn't anything special...but sheesh...his size is impressive. 6'5, 230 pounds and only 18. Wow.
tdchi
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:21 am EST
RF4L - Pens are a different team when they play with soem discipline and do their roles....Stil, the Flyers have the skill to match and win.....should be a good game...probably come fown to goalies, neither of who i would trust......As for the Rangers ,no more needs to be said...and I'll echo RF4L.."This is the biggest game of the year and the Rangers have to win"...:).....Just kidding withy ya...
Hospo
Sat Apr 21 2012 9:16 am EST
RF4L it would be nice if MSG would televise it. Instead the show Rocky 32 times a week. That;s a cluess "sports "channel. .
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:43 am EST
Re the Flyers/Pens match: It's quite possible and I'd say 50/50 that the Pens will come back to beat the Flyers. If they win game 6 I say they'll win the series.
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:39 am EST
Dunno if it was noted on here but the Whale opened up their 1st round PO series with a 3 -0 win over the much favoured Bridgeport. Apparently Cam Talbot stood on his head. Game 2 is today - it would be cool if they go up 2 games to 0. Ryan Bourque had a goal and an assist.
RF4L
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:28 am EST
jnyr in the buttman system, you are correct. The NYR need 8 points, and the have 6 so far !.....
stevielegs
Sat Apr 21 2012 8:01 am EST
gene_carr - no doubt, a first-round exit to the lowly Sens wouldn't buy Tortorella any job security. But considering where many predicted the Rangers would fall this season, I don't think anyone is ready to fire Torts anymore...Hell, I was one of the guy's biggest detractors here and even I don't want him fired at this point. If he bales on these playoffs and the team slips through the first half of next year, that's when you'll see the noose forming around his neck. Otherwise, I think he's pretty safe...but let's not go there. Rangers are going to win tonight and close it out in Ottawa...RANGERS IN SIX!!!
tdchi
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:58 am EST
Pal17 - Actually, I'm not opposed to that line at all for several reasons: They've got to get STEPAN going...he's in a slump. He's been in a slump...I don't agree with everyone here saying he's shying away from hits. But I do agree he's been about as ineffective as they come..Second, ANISIMOV hasn't been in a slump. Neither has GABORIK. That line played very well together throughout the season because Stepan has the right vision to thread the needle with Gaborik...Reason two is that someone needs to get DUBINSKY going...again...same argument as with Stepan...Dubes has been in an offensive slump all season...everyone(I'm sure Tortorella included)was really hoping he'd snap out of it in time for the playoffs...welll..here we are...But he's a good addition to RICHARDS-CALLAHAN because he creates space without the puck. That's a dangerous line from all angles...interestingly enough, I would try BOYLE and PRUST on a line with RUPP...see what that will do...but absent that, I wouldn't mind seeing KREIDER take that wing on third...and then above all, let him skate a regular shift!
tdchi
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:50 am EST
Rhet - One of the reasons the Sens seem to do well in OT is that it's 4-on-4...that gives them more ice to open up the speed game...and that's exactly why they won in Game 4...Game 2 was more the Rangers just knuckling under...
tdchi
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:44 am EST
Rangers clinch tonight.........don't we get half a win for an overtime loss?
jnyr
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:41 am EST
RF4L - I'm sure it's no surprise that I agree with you on the shortened bench. I was saying part of Wednesday's loss...I'd say at least half of the blame...should go to Tortorella for making some downright clueless coaching decisions. I cited that the Rangers really seemed to pull back offensively from halfway through the first until the third, and that was just ridiculous. You can't ever lift your foot off the accelerator in the playoffs...but to do that, you really need to have faith in four lines and three defensive pairings. You can't simply play two into the ground and three sparingly...and in the third in Game 4, Rupp and co were about the best thing out there when the minutes were winding down.
tdchi
Sat Apr 21 2012 7:16 am EST
RF4L: No doubt Tortarella is not managing the playing time well.Consider this: In the background, silently taking all this in, is Messier, the heir apparent GM. He was highly instrumental in dumping Roger Neilson because of a similar passive strategy and if this is a short playoff run, I predict so will Torts tenure.
gene_carr
Sat Apr 21 2012 5:22 am EST
the lines make sense but if STEPAN is invisible then RUPP should get some shifts with AA and GABBY! am I allowed to mention the name AVERY on this wall? [Maybe it's off topic!] AVERY should be buzzin around and wreakin havoc against the SENS.
Pal17
Sat Apr 21 2012 1:13 am EST
Gill will be available for next round....Mike Babcock said big reason they lost was the Preds depth was better...The third and fourth lines were better than the Wings...Yes the Preds are going for it....
PJ
Fri Apr 20 2012 11:53 pm EST
Like them Preds...Pulling for them in the west...and for the CUp if the Rangers don't make it....There is a team that went for it at the deadline and so far has been rewarded (even if Gill got hurt)
Hospo
Fri Apr 20 2012 9:33 pm EST
Wings are gone...Preds advance....Throwing catfish on the ice in Nashville....
PJ
Fri Apr 20 2012 9:11 pm EST
Ok enough screwing around...Happy the series is going longer but Flyers have to get rid of these pukes in the next game....Hate them both but can't stomach the Pens at all....
PJ
Fri Apr 20 2012 9:08 pm EST
I hate the pens
rngrsans
Fri Apr 20 2012 8:15 pm EST
Step-AA-Gaborik...Don't care for that line at all...Especially the way Step has been playing....Not enough grit...
PJ
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:29 pm EST
what a jerk trying to say malkinstein's cross check was not a penalty.....call mario to send the $ check........
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:25 pm EST
Stevie - Mike Pilsbury is a fucking embarrassment to the NHL. How does he keep his job? Incompetence from the head down!
DCIGolfer
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:23 pm EST
Mil bury is clueless
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:16 pm EST
2-1 Cryers
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:03 pm EST
Cryers up 1-0 on the babies
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 4:44 pm EST
Rhet - I don't know either, but he is..the reguilar season stats are meaningless..He has been horendous, invisble, charmin soft for the last10-15 games...all that matters..Love to see the Stepan of the early season return, it's up to him.......As fot the " If DZ skate blah..blah...." Snes could be saying the same about Game 3, so lets not go there...Zero-zero..even-up..best of three..
Hospo
Fri Apr 20 2012 4:43 pm EST
or what "ails" him.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 20 2012 4:35 pm EST
I don't know what's wrong with Derek Stepan, but he sure doesn't look like the player that he was for most of the season... I also don't know how a guy that averages 1.67 hits per game is "soft" or a "purse swinger" ...The lines in practice today were as follows.... Stepan-Anisimov-Gaborik... Dubinsky-Richards-Callahan... Fedotenko-Boyle--Prust... Kreider-Mitchell-Rupp... Hopefully putting the GAS line back together is the cure for whatever ills Stepan.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 20 2012 4:25 pm EST
HOSPO.... If it wasn't for a fluke deflection off MDZ'S skate and a lucky bounce in game 2 we would've won that one as well... I also have no idea why we suck so badly in OT in the playoffs... IMO, this team is close to being a force in the playoffs, but it's almost as if they don't believe it themselves... I expect the team that wins the next game will win the series... Also, Lundqvist hasn't given up more than 2 goals in regulation in the series, we've just got to find a way to score that 3rd goal.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 20 2012 4:07 pm EST
And for those who support Tortorella's decisions since game 1, I ask you this: What about Ottawa makes you so reluctant to play 2 of the team's most physical players more often? Ottawa's not that good for crying out loud. And if the guys Tortorella's not playing much are that bad, then I don't see a lotta hope for this team, even if they struggle through this first round, in the next one.
RF4L
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:58 pm EST
You know what is bothering me as much as how the Rangers are playing in general since game 2? Tortorella's benching shortening decision(s). It's dismaying because all season long he pushed the right buttons, including how he ran his bench. To me it's so obvious Rupp needs to play regularly. I know what some on here think of him, but if Carkner can play and Konopka be on the ice so much, Rupp can and should play more minutes. All 3 play the same physical style - the Rangers, in part because Rupp isn't getting a lot of ice, are not responding properly. Bickell is another player I think should be played more, for the same reasons. Put himn on forward if you have to and bring in Emminger. Sit Kreider or Mitchell. Put AA between the 2 of them and play them as often as Ottawa puts out their 4th line. Or put AA between Rupp and Prust and play them a lot (leave Bickell on D, just give him a few more minutes). More physical play and forechecking is needed.
RF4L
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:56 pm EST
RHET - Even if i believed your words, that would mean.....Rangers better in game 1, even in game 2, Sens better in game 3, even in game 4 (no qualifiers allowed)..basically, even steven....Which, all worthless opinons aside, is where they stand now....and all that matters is who is the better team over the NEXT 3 Games (or two)...Which the rangers will bee if they play more aggressive with the last shift and play all their players fro at least 5 mins.., including RUPP..Damn, that hurt to say...
Hospo
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:40 pm EST
And RHET: nobody is better then Kreider with the exception of Stepan.
E
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:39 pm EST
Brendan Shanahan suspension video... http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2012/04/20/watch-funny-brendan-shanahan-suspension-video/
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:39 pm EST
The NYR are trying to show how dominant that they are by letting Ottawa THINK they have a chance. They will take it to game 7, enter the 3rd down 4-1 and finish the game 6-4. Why you may ask? The answer is simple: they have intangibles
E
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:34 pm EST
E... Should we take bets now that Silfberg has a better series than Kreider?
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:30 pm EST
he's probably teasing them
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:30 pm EST
I know I've been a harsh critic of the Rangers the last two months of the season, but I have to say that I agree with TD.... the Rangers have been the better team in this series.... Sure the Sens were the better team in game 3, but game 4 was a tossup... we dominated in the first, they owned us in the 2nd and despite being pretty evenly matched in the 3rd, I thought we had the better chances for the most part... I think we've been the more dominant team, but we've still let this team stick around... we've seriously lacked the killer instinct so far... Rangers in 6 :)
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:27 pm EST
Stevie: right bout now we need Avery. He has intangibles
E
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:17 pm EST
infinite intangibles
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 3:02 pm EST
E: Saw that, they say he will join the team sometime on Sunday...and unless they are crazy they will need to make it to game 7 for him to see the Rangers. If they just toss him in with little rest (long way to travel) and almost no practice with the team, it could end up being a move that helps the Rangers, with ice size adjustment and all, the size ans speed of players, the intensity of these games... that's got to be a hard move, even from a top league like the SEL.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 20 2012 2:51 pm EST
FYI: NHL ready prospect Silfberg is joining the Sens fresh off of his SEL Championship. An SEL MVP
E
Fri Apr 20 2012 2:41 pm EST
If the Rangers play the next two games like they did for most of the third period in the last game we are done with the Sens in six....Big if though.........
PJ
Fri Apr 20 2012 2:26 pm EST
KIS: actually I thought the Rangers played a lot better in the 3rd period the last game, and other than Ottawa having some chances late in that period don't remember them doing much. Seemed to me the Rangers were more aggressive in that period trying to disrupt Ottawa entering the zone. And it worked. Keep it up!
Zebop
Fri Apr 20 2012 1:20 pm EST
get your koolaide glasses.....electric.........NYR win tomorrow........
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 1:16 pm EST
TD, you must be looking at these games with Ranger colored glasses. The Rangers last game were pressed for a goood part of the 2nd and 3rd period.
KIS
Fri Apr 20 2012 12:32 pm EST
TDCHI - To each his own, I don't see how you can't say the Senators were the better team the past two games unless you are just seeing what you want to see.....Moot point..Even series (which reflects the play) that starts over on Saturday...The better team will win...Should be the Rangers...but "should" doesn't mean anything...
Hospo
Fri Apr 20 2012 12:21 pm EST
RF4L – Really?!? You have GOT to be kidding. The Sens win Game 2 because of a bizarre bounce, get thoroughly outplayed in Game 1 and couldn't get through to Lundqvist in Game 3. They have ONE good period in Game 4, then limp through the other two to miraculously come up with a win Wednesday and you think they've OUTPLAYED the Rangers?!? I'm not going to say the Sens have played bad, cause they haven't. But I will say they remind me a lot of the 2008-2009 Rangers when they were pitted against a much more refined Washington Capitals and went up in the series 3-1. Now most of you know I'm an optimist about the Rangers generally(I know...it's rare)...but even I knew the Rangers weren't going to eliminate the Caps, since the Rangers were outplayed in all three of their wins...ditto here with Ottawa. I really don't know how you can say the Sens were the better team in any of these games unless you simply didn't watch them.
tdchi
Fri Apr 20 2012 12:11 pm EST
The Whale played Game 1 of their playoff series against the Bridgeport Sound Tigers last night and came out with a 3-0 win. I will refrain from getting TOO excited...they looked like a giant mess in the first period. CAM TALBOT set a franchise record for most saves in a playoff game with a 42 saves in the shutout. He was looking sharp...definitely could have been a very different story is he didn't have such a good outing. All the Whale scoring came from unexpected sources... goals were from KELSEY TESSIER, JORDAN OWENS, and RYAN BOURQUE - all third/fourth line players. CHRISTIAN THOMAS continues to look solid. JT MILLER is joining the team today - not sure if we will see him in action this weekend. Game 2 is tomorrow and Game 3 is Sunday...
Dineen11
Fri Apr 20 2012 11:51 am EST
Hospo: I agree...there is something not right. They don't get injured like some not so well trained guys tend to, but they haven't gotten much stronger in a way that shows up on the ice. I know there is a balance, but it seems to me that they could be stronger.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 20 2012 11:46 am EST
WILD - Underhill sure helped Boyle....Where the Rangers really need to invest money is in a STRENGTH COACH...Our young players desperately need added muscle and strenght...it will help them so much..
Hospo
Fri Apr 20 2012 11:37 am EST
Leafs announced they hired Barb Underhill as a team skating coach... that's a loss for the Rangers players if she cant work with them in the offseason.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 20 2012 11:23 am EST
Hospo: With Gabby, I think this is one of the few teams with a guy that can skate with him. Karlson has a good first step and is agile on his skates, "quick" is how I would describe him, and he is smart enough to read plays, and has matched up to Gabby well. When Hagelin comes back I hope to see his speed make that line better, a couple times when Kreider was on that line the speed of the two caused the OTT dmen to BOTH drop back more, when it 'just' Gabby and his speed one drops back the other stands up with help from a wing or the center...I still think Gabby could do better, but OTT does need SOME credit for shutting him down. Richards has gotten shots, but as I said, he needs to take a couple chances and try to make a play, it will make his shots more dangerous if the goalie and D are not sure hat he will do, but with 8 shots in a game, they knew what he was going to do and they started blocking his shots.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 20 2012 11:18 am EST
PJ - I yammered so much about the folly of not aquiring veteran players at the deadline that i had to shut up (and was told to so--politley..:))...RF4L - Totally agree..The Rangers played some great hockey in Game 1...After that, the Sneators have been the better team..not by alot, but they have been better..and more physical..and more attacking...Hopefully, the last line change helps on SAT....BOB - Gabby and Richards had two points on the PP..secondary assists kinds....They have been unproductive for the most part at ES....Richards has had some moments...Gabby hasn't figurted out how to play these guys...If you want to bang Dubi, bang these guys also...
Hospo
Fri Apr 20 2012 11:17 am EST
OOHHHH..Karlsson has taken a billion shots, with no traffic in front, looking into Hanks eyes with no net visible....sound like something I want the Rangers to start doing. I HATE using shots on goal as a way of saying how good a team is playing. Unless its like only 3 -7 shots in a period, I could care less about SOG...you get huge numbers coming from OTT, but 90% have about 20% chance of even being deflected let alone going in. I would take a pass to a guy who chips it just wide, or a pass that just misses a connection but the guy had half a net to shoot at over a shot from the point into the goalie chest 100 times out of 100. No wait, 99 times out of 100, if you have no other option and its late in the shift, put it in on net and get the goalie to hold it for a face off. Otherwise, you don't win the in the NHL with random shots. OTT scored its goals after they started waiting until their was traffic in front...they haven't scored a goal first because they don't pay the price until they have to. And I am not saying I don't want the Rangers to pass up good shots, but if there is no one in the lane, and they can just wrist it, or slap it into Andersons chest, no thanks....at least move laterally a little, or curl the puck in or something to change the angle a bit. What OTT has been doing has not worked until they get crazy pressure when they have nothing to lose.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:59 am EST
Wild: You sound a like New York Ranger PR dude. The only thing the Rangers have done better is limit their turn-overs. Karlsson himself has directed at the Rangers net pucks equalling a quarter of the what the entire Ranger team has managed at the Ottawa net. They were lousy in game 4, won game 3 because the King stole the game and were out-muscled and out-scored in game 2. The sad thing is (and I've been expressing my concern about this for weeks now) the Rangers could have been in complete command of the series if their PP was so pathetic. The answer to Carkner's pummelling of BB in game 2 should have been a couple of PP goals - that would have diffused instantly the physical advantage the fight and the subsequent 5 minute major PK gave the Sens. The Sens chippiness and at times physical abuse of the Rangers they know they can hand out because the PP is futile. It's embarassing actually....
RF4L
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:47 am EST
RF4L: You sound like a Canadian media person. OTT has NOT outplayed the Rangers....they have been able to keep the puck in the Rangers zone along to boards for long stretches going round and round and shooting into defensive played feet. Thats not outplaying, that's being aloud to play in the O zone. When the Rangers have decided to take it to them and not let them do that they have had no answer. I don't think Torts is making them do less and just try to fall back on D, I think the team as a whole has gotten into a mindset of not giving up anything. I think game 1 did it, they got a 4 goal lead and even while trying to protect it gave up 2 goals, and the next game they did even MORE defensively, holding back and making no mistakes, and still lost....than they ramped it up even more and played to a 1-0 shutout and I think it got in their heads that's how they have to play. HOPEFULLY with the home crowd being alive and loud the excitement will get them revved up and playing more offensively, and try to win rather than try not to loose.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:47 am EST
Wolski has played in 2 of the 4 playoff games and had 9 points in 22 regular season games for FLA.....I couldn't stand the guy and was thrilled when we moved him for a pick....I did believe some attempt at depth that is not John Scott would have followed....We are absolutely screwed if we have just a couple of injuries....
PJ
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:39 am EST
And I disagree that the Rangers have played the best all-around hockey so far in the east. Ottawa has out-played the Rangers for crying out loud.
RF4L
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:37 am EST
WW is crap - he's not even playing for the Panthers...pressboxed....wonder if he'll even be in the NHL next year....if there's a year...
RF4L
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:36 am EST
Bob....Preaching to the choir as it relates to lack of depth or lack of moves at the deadline....I was blasted for just about any trade or player I suggested we go after....Heck holding on to Wolski and Crusher would have been better than counting on John can't skate Scott.....
PJ
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:33 am EST
And as for the criticism of Richards and Gaborik.....they have been involved, getting shots and chances. They both had 2 points in game 4. I think they have done fine. Gaborik is playing a lot more along the boards since Hagelin went out. I don't have a lot of problem with his play.
Bob
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:32 am EST
WILDCARD - Like I mentioned earler, the performances may be dictated some by the Style Torts has them playing --disciplined, defensive, positionally--and that being made even worse by the constant physiocal presssuer of the bigger Sens keeping them on the defensive....If the Rangers play a more aggressive game, I think you will see some more physical wins and some better individual performances...But the key is to keep their discipline at the same time for a team win......It can be done....
Hospo
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:30 am EST
Wild....Actually it is not a fact at all but your opinion or hope as it relates to Stepan....He has two full seasons in the league and this is his second playoff....I am not saying he should be lighting it up but he doesn't even look like he belongs out there at this point....
PJ
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:30 am EST
PJ---I am not in favor of excusing anyone for anything. I am tougher on the guys with experience than on the guys without, but they need to perform. We have what we have in terms of talent. Torts has tried putting Aniaimov back at center. That has not worked, as Dubinsky continues to underachieve. Now it appears that he is putting Stepan back with Gabby and Richards with Cally. Heck, he tried every idiotic line combo last game to no avail. We have young guys that need to grow. How much better of a spot would we be in if Rolston and Gaustad were on the team, which would give Torts the luxury of sitting Stepan? The prospect of replacing Stepan with Mitchell is not exciting, and replacing him with Anisimov did not work.
Bob
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:28 am EST
Hospo: agree...there have been some letdowns. And some are expected...not so much a let down I guess, but Gabby being shut down...well yeah, teams will work at that, and may be successful. But its the fact that no one but Boyle at forward and Strallman on D have stepped up. Well, I think Staal is playing his best D since he came back, and he has played a little meaner and nastier than we have seen this year so far, so I will put him in the positive category. Other than that, I haven't been impressed much by cally, its like he is playing to NOT mess up, and that's wrong....seems like a lot of guys are playing to not mess up and that's making them play to not loose instead of playing to win, and that's what got them to the top seed.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:25 am EST
PJ - I agree, this has nothing to do with Stepan's long range potential..or even his past regualr season performance....the POs are all about now...and, he has been a let down,,just like some of the vets..The entire team, starting with the coach, need to step it up
Hospo
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:23 am EST
PJ: Its not an "excuse" if it is a fact....or a reason. An excuse is "my dog ate my homework" a reason is " my house burned down, and I didn't grab my backpack" Stepan hasn't figured out how to do it at the PO level yet. I think he will and I wonder about that leg, granted he was tailing off before that, but it seemed like he was still more involved even if it wasn't showing up in stats. And excuse for him would be saying "he wasn't told the right things about how good he really is by the coach." or "the locker room changed and he is confused" some BS like that. The fact that every player says they had to learn how to play in the playoffs, and it took time to adjust, makes it a reality that some guys don't get it right away, and last year he was a rookie. Now there are some guys who just step right in, like Hagelin, and god love them for it, but there are more who don't do that and struggle for a time or two. Now I do agree that its not good there is no one to replace him. Maybe when Hags comes back it should be Step that sits and not Mitchell, because I see mitchell trying to do more than Step, he just isn't good at it, but at least with him there is a chance something happens like a Dman falls down and he gets a clean shot at the net, Step isn't even that far along. But that is why Step is not on the 2nd line, or any place near it. So given the chance I would sit him for a game, let him watch, let him reset himself some. Also, if his leg is a bother, we SHOULD see more from him after a day off and 2 days between games, if not, he is injured and shouldn't be in, or he isn't hurting at all and its all mental.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:09 am EST
I guess my point with Stepan is f we can excuse our second line center from performing due to inexperience, lack of strength that he will gain later, being scared of ghosts etc. we won't be in these playoffs long....No excuses as we were the top team in the conference....Step up and play(no pun inteded)........
PJ
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:03 am EST
As for Stepan, the POs is not a time for, "oh, he's yopung, he's inexperienced, he'll get better"...All of that is true, but it doesn't matter now...Al that matters is his pla and result.....Since the last 10 games of the reg season and the POs....Stepan is a big fat zero at ES...zero goals...zero assists..a minus six......And he was a big fat zero in last years POs. (zero-Zero-Minus 5)...Obviously a kid that needed a game off or two, but there was and is no depth....There can be son many reasons entering his invisible and prancing play: lack of confidence, lack of experience, lack of linemates, hurting, wears down and not strong enough for the late season NHL game and physiocality, his "heady" game doesn't transate as well to the POs without the experience and stength he will gain as he gets older...I'm sounding like WILDCARD here giving the reason, but right now all that matters is results...and I hope soeway he can find a spark or some luck that gets him going...
Hospo
Fri Apr 20 2012 10:00 am EST
unless the coach really sees something I do not, Kreider should sit. Play geat scott, put him in front of the net.
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 9:54 am EST
There is no surpise in any oif this too me...My question coming in tio thei series was could the Rangers play tough enough and nasty enough PO hockey, especially guys like Stepan (Sorry, A BIG FAT ZERO), AA (in and out physically, and Hags (was doing fine).....Was surprised a little that Ottawas whole game plan became, get the puck in the Rangers end, and use big bodies and FO wins..But that's what it is and it has been working...The Rangers are tough enoung, no doubt, but they aren't STRONG enough the way they are playing...It's ahrd to win the physical battles when you are on the defensive all the time..and thinkign about keeping your shpae and your position every second....If they went to a more aggressive attacking mode, you would see them win more of the physical battles.....But, wil lthey then lose their disciple? Torts has to find the Happy medium with this team and hopefully can with the last shift.....Obviously, there's no bangert coming to t he rescue, so Torts and his crew have to do it themselves...They can..maybe..but it will be a battle....And is starts with the finessey players like GABBY and Stepan..as well as Dubi.....And it would help if all 18 Guys were used instead of going with 13-14....That's anotehr reason thye are losing so many battles..
Hospo
Fri Apr 20 2012 9:33 am EST
mf was that from the jerk going behind the bench to ask him rght after it happened in the heat f the game?......clueless nhl........
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 9:28 am EST
Quenniville fined 10G for speaking out against refs no call of Torres high hit on Hossa (squash the 1st ammendment you little commie shit, BungHolio Bittman)... Al Arbor issued a statement a bout high hits too
mf
Fri Apr 20 2012 9:25 am EST
kis- touche , with regards to , "if you call that playing well" , the rangers need to find away to stay in their d-zone less time. mostly that will be beating the sens to the puck, and if they don't win the race , be there to put a big hit on . make the sens pay for each puck. look at the hits in every game , i beleive the rangers have been out hit in all 4 , or at least 3 out of 4. how many games have the rangers been out hit this year ? did that crazy first game make the rangers back off ? nobody has mention getting out hit every game .. i'm sure that first game is why some players are off their games, gabby, stephan, even callahan.i think the only game i remember the rangers being out hit was a game the devils beat them.
doct
Fri Apr 20 2012 9:14 am EST
Wild...from your mouth to Gods ear.......the Phily thing is troublesome......
MelvilleFred
Fri Apr 20 2012 9:10 am EST
MelvilleFred: disagree on the Devils....Would rather, if the Rangers beat OTT and I think they will, that Boston (if they win) and The Flyers (if they hold on) beat the hell out of each other, instead of the Rangers going right into a series with the Flyers...that would mean on the year they would need to win 10 out of a maximum 13 games in the year...not easy at any level...things eventually even out....and I want the rangers to get to the ECF at least this year....and of course win it and the SCF ;)
Wildcard
Fri Apr 20 2012 9:00 am EST
Have to agree with LB today. From what I saw of the last 2 games we lost the majority of the 1:1 batles. As for Stepan.....lets not throw the kid on the scrap heep just yet....I give you Girardi and MDZ.. I still think he's hurting from that knee on knee...well as the glass 1/2 empty, sky is falling guy, I for some reason think we win a "nail biter" tomorrow and win 4-1 in Ottawa. As for the other series, doesn't much matter if we don't win our games. I do want the Pens and Devils out.....I can't take another "heroic" run by MARTY!
MelvilleFred
Fri Apr 20 2012 8:58 am EST
Kis: Its because even though the "experts" like to say the West is SOOO much better top to bottom than the east, the east has 3 series that are ties 2-2 and 1 that is 3-1 the West has 4 that are 3-1, granted the 8 seed is killing the number 1 overall seed, but they were down their top guy...so that doesn't help. But it shows that the East has 9 teams that are very good and very even. Think about it BUF didn't make it....and they are no slouch of a team...and did well against western teams. But my point is I guess, that OTT is a better team than the 8th seed, in years past they would have been higher, but the Rangers division was DOMINATE this year, 4 teams with 100+ points, even in the 3rd point NHL that's impressive. SO what we are seeing is a strong conference fighting it out for series wins. Did anyone think that the only blowout series in the East would have been PIT/PHI? I mean many people had the Devils getting a sweep or wining in 5....they can still win, and I think they will, but it will take 6 or 7...and it wouldn't be shocking if they lost in 6 or 7. The only shock would be if PIT finds a way to win, and that only because they are down 3-1, and were down 3-0. In the west I am shocked all over the place. LA up 3-1? really....Nash up 3-1 on DEzt...I picked NAS to win, but not like this. PHO v CHI...i really though the hawks would fall back on their experience and be leading this series after 4, not trailing...the only non surprise really is SJ is not doing well in the PO...go figure....but really, the east was wide open, and not because every team was bad, but because there are a lot of really good well put together teams.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 20 2012 8:29 am EST
Yorkie hope things going better. If you can pop in quickly, do you think the Rangers win the series?
KIS
Fri Apr 20 2012 8:26 am EST
tdchi - I hope you are right! I wish I was not such a pessimist.
Tikkanen
Fri Apr 20 2012 8:25 am EST
TD, if you call being hemmed in your own period for 3-5 minutes at a time, being outshot, losing draws, losing leads and getting beat to loose pucks as playing well, I disagree. I think the Rangers have been to passive and way to defensive. I know the team hasn't been behind in any game but they lost 2. they could easily be behind in this series 3-1 just as easy having won 4-0. I think the Rangers are the better team but for some reason they don't look better. I just want them to win.
KIS
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:59 am EST
Tik - No way they do. Simply no way. The Flyers had a pretty bad game four...alright...AWFUL game four...but I simply don't believe Pittsburgh is as good as everyone says they are. They really didn't change their game plan Wednesday...it was the same thing...Overload on Philly and hope they crumple. They got lucky because they did. Admittedly, the refs taking a so-called no-nonsense attitude to the series does cater to Pitt. But seriously...only FOUR teams in the HISTORY OF PROFESSIONAL SPORTS...have made it back from a three-zip deficit. I'm not a betting man, but I'll put one of my 30-racks of PBR on the Flyers winning at some point over the next three. I'll even throw in the gin-and-tonic I'll be drinking in about 9 hours too. Not sure tonight's the night. In fact, I kind of hope it's not. I want to see both of these teams battered to shit.
tdchi
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:44 am EST
Tikk- I wouldn't be suprised if Pitt won 3 in a row, although I might not bet on it exactly.
Ola
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:42 am EST
Nick- Its hard to argue against the sense in that, and I do agree. But going in as a 1st ranked team against a underdog 6th ranked NJD side, has its disadvantages too. Especially for this team it seems. If eventually would play Bos/Pitt/Phi I am sure we would play great and leave it all on the ice. It could be enough, or not. Its like we are stubborn enough to always fight those teams, but not mature enough to be perfect against a lesser team.
Ola
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:33 am EST
tik, they better, sooner rather than later, but not , not at all.
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:26 am EST
The Flyers can win one of the next three, right??? Right??? Am I right?
Tikkanen
Fri Apr 20 2012 7:20 am EST
As usual, I'd love to say I'm surprised by the degree of negativity here. But I'm not...Some of you insinuating the Rangers are knuckling under to an inferior team or that they're not as good as their records suggest should really try watching some of the other teams in the east compete. I've now seen at least one game from all the other series(and all games from the Pittsburgh-Philadelphia series)...I can say with fairly good accuracy that the Rangers have played the best, all-around hockey of any team in the eastern conference at this point. The only other team that comes close is the Bruins, who absolutely unload shots on net. But defensively, Boston can't hold a candle to the Rangers...While the numbers out of the Flyer-Penguin series are impressive,they're also a clear representation of teams who aren't playing an ounce of defense. I'm no fan of either FLEURY or BRYZGOLV, but when both have a GAA around or greater than 5.00, you know something's amiss. Neither team would do good against the Rangers for that reason alone...In the Boston-Washington series, I was expecting to see crisp passing, good playmaking and overall great hockey. Well, that series is a sloppy mess. Just undisciplined hockey all around. Basically, it's the Bruins throwing any puck they can at HOLTBY, never taking the time to set up plays. And Washington just looks like a clusterf@ck of a team. I don't even know how they made the playoffs...Florida-New Jersey is another strange matchup. I firmly expected the Devils to roll over the Panthers...but a key component of Lou Lam's defensive structure is now taking Geritol, and even that's not covering up the fact that he doesn't have the stamina to play playoff hockey anymore. And again, neither team shows the composure the Rangers have in four games...Granted, I'm just as nervous as any fan...I wanted the Rangers to be sitting in hot tubs Saturday, watching the rest of the action. Instead, they need to win two of the next three to advance. But to sit here and carp about how they're showing they weren't as good as their record is just very shortsighted. They're every bit as good as their record and they're not even firing on all six cylinders. Ottawa has gotten some lucky bounces, a lucky call from Shanahan(don't discount the absence of HAGELIN from this lineup...mind you we lost our TOP LINE LEFT WING for three games), and made a few poor coaching decisions...but in none of these games have the Rangers looked bad. And I defy any of you to prove otherwise.
tdchi
Fri Apr 20 2012 6:56 am EST
“I thought we battled hard. ... But we just haven’t been able to find that next goal in the two losses that we’ve had here.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/tortorella_not_about_to_panic_v8iLlqAs3FvYlLsANBkYRP#ixzz1sa5BbH3S
stevielegs
Fri Apr 20 2012 6:55 am EST
lb..."But the Rangers have to be better, they have to be stronger. They won’t get by playing this way." Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/word_of_warning_DmuLq62nuXVOBXyKSNNzPI#ixzz1sa4ZxH87
stevielegs
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:14 pm EST
PJ: this was that game for NJD where they have begun the takeover. Florida is in trouble. This is a lesson for the NYR. Take the next at home and do it decisively and this Ottawa team will fold it up. You let these guys get to OT and anything goes. The NYR let Ottawa steal 2-wins that they should have closed out. The sudden emergence of the refs whistle last game didn't help but the NYR weren't disciplined enough and Ottawa has too good an offense to play around like this. Ottawa firmly believes that they can win this series now and the NYR need to rattle their cage hard. If the NYR lose Saturday night it's going to be real hard for them to get back in this.
E
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:14 pm EST
Nick...Agreed on the Devils but the way our series is going I don't allow myself to think about our next opponent too much...
PJ
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:08 pm EST
STEPAN needs to step it up or management needs to reconsider his future? Spezza needs to step it up or management needs to reconsider. Apples to apples? No, but he is a 2nd year pro. Yes, he is ineffective but so has everyone on the offense except Brian "Cam Neely" Boyle.
E
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:58 pm EST
As much as I despise NJ, it's best if they win. If we can somehow manage to defeat the '85 Oilers ... uh, eighth-place Ottawa ... I'd rather face NJ than Philly or Pitt. That 6-0 against the Flyers means less than jack; and whoever wins that series will be sky-high. And, who believes they will continue to suck so massively on D? And if they do, who do we have to make them pay past 2-3 guys? Both PH and Pitt have scoring upland down the lineup. Just MHO. Bring on the Newark Rockies and Fat Uncle Daddy. Caps are just prolonging the inevitable but I'd take them too if they can pull the upset.
Nick
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:50 pm EST
Wow does Corey Crawford suck -- another crappy OT goal as the Hawks go down 3-1.
Nick
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:47 pm EST
Devils not out of the woods yet....Still have to take 2 out of 3 with 2 of the games in FLA....That said I don't see them losing the series....
PJ
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:43 pm EST
Stepan hs 3 glaring weaknesses IMO- his softness/ passiveness, his skating ( not fast, choppy strides, takes a few strides to get going , and face offs . His passing and ability to see the ice are his strengths. He needs to step it up- or management may have to reconsider his NYR future.
puckyou
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:56 pm EST
Freakin devils
rngrsans
Thu Apr 19 2012 5:12 pm EST
infinite
stevielegs
Thu Apr 19 2012 4:56 pm EST
all I have to say is I am so glad that they have intangibles
E
Thu Apr 19 2012 4:34 pm EST
sjw: I've been saying that(odd-man rushes) for a while. The last good odd man rush I can remember was Dubinsky to Callahan to beat Pitt......FROM LAST YEAR!!!!!! I know we've had some this year I just don't recall them though
RDW
Thu Apr 19 2012 4:09 pm EST
We should still beat Ottawa. And I think it's a shame if we doesn't, because all the jitter and pressure would play our way if we faced Philly or Boston or a team like that.
Ola
Thu Apr 19 2012 3:48 pm EST
RF4L - Exactly ... so we don't change style, opportunities are and will be there but can we take advantage?. , Is there any other team in this league with more odd man rushes that don't even result in a shot on goal than us.. If there is I'd like to know ...
sjw
Thu Apr 19 2012 1:10 pm EST
And besides if he gets the Fedora Saturday night it would look great with that skirt he's been wearing...lol
PJ
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:55 pm EST
Bob...We shall see....Some handle the transition well and some don't....Some players put up many decent seasons and never perform in the playoffs...I don't like what I see in Stepan but hope he turns out to be our next star and gets a hat trick Saturday night....
PJ
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:53 pm EST
PJ....Richard was NOT as physical in his first couple years int he NHL...most guys are not... unless that's their game style, like Cally. Step will NEVER be big enough to be a board presence, now, he DOES see the ice very well, and we have seen that...in fact the last game he has 2 times I can remember that he moved the puck really really well, and the OTHER player gave it up or shot wide (Mitchell gave the puck away and early int he game Gabby i think shot wide). Again, not every player figures it all out in one year, some guys take 2 or 3, its the way it is...but you cant give up that quick. Now with that, I agree with Hospo, he is near if not at the top of the list for a trade possibility to get "that" player who is needed...but that's not to say I don't think Stepan will be able to bring his game up to another level. But you do have to give to get.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:44 pm EST
Wild...If Stepan can't play along the boards or stand in front of the net then he better be able to handle the puck like Richards....Richards ability to see the ice and dish the puck and get off his shots very quickly allow him to be less physical...Which is still more physical than Stepan....
PJ
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:41 pm EST
Hospo: I think a Stewart would be good for Stepan. He has skill although he is having a bad year, but he is big, he hits and will even fight. A guy like that would allow Step to play his style and try to make plays. Its just that the Rangers don't have that guy...they COULD put Dubi there, but he has been so unable to put the puck in the net it wouldn't matter, cally may help, but it seems when they have played together they just don't mesh, and that happens. Again, Id like to see Kreider and Rupp on his wings the next game..he wouldn't see the top D hardly at all, and he might be able to make a play or two to build his confidence...and Rupp would make anyone feel bigger, and Kreider has speed and skill to create things and to get open for a pass, Kreider also goes to the front of the net well, so Step would have a target in a scoring area.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:34 pm EST
Hospo: exactly...how far they go, and how they react to these playoffs will show what is needed. One thing we KNOW they need is a 4th line faceoff guy (I only say 4th line because the top 3 center spots really should be locked up next season) and another Dman who is a vet and a shut down guy, even if he "just" a 3rd pair guy. Also, they just need more experience for some of the younger guys who are still learning on forward and D. But other things are not so clear. Do they need to trade an AA or Stepan along with other assets to get a young #2 center who is better than those two? Do they need to trade for a bigger banging winger like Stewart? Do they need to move Sauer and get another Dman like him who hasn't been injured as much? Lots of questions, and only time will tell. The next 3 (hopefully 2 wins int he next 2!!) will be a big part of that, and if they make it to round 2 it will be another test and another learning process for "us" and management to see what they need....even if they win it all there will be things that need improved to compete and win it again.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:32 pm EST
Hey PJ....face it, your premise is BS. Stepan is a kid. Against his peers, he excelled. He is now playing with men, older, bigger, stronger, more skillful and more experienced. He has to grow into his role. This is called playoff experience. he is now getting it, and coming to the understanding of what he needs to bring to be successful. The kid has played in 8 NHL playoff games in his life.
Bob
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:32 pm EST
BOB - Or, as I dsaid before, You get Stepan bigger line mates that allow him to play with more confidence and to play bigger...Of course, I'm talking POs here, not the regualr season..Two different entities..
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:29 pm EST
BOBN _ maybe your're right..But I'm sorry, Steppan has been utterly worthless at ES for weeks..ever since it gotta really intense in the NHL...and has skiipped and pranced around the ice looking for his shadow,...Not a time you want a player to check out, even if he is young,..he will get better, I agree but I am also thinking that next year the Rangers are going to have to change al ittle, get a little bigger and stronger up front..if it's by trade, probalbly means one of Hagelin, AA or Stepan could be used...Right now, Stepan would be my choice...becasue of his style and his value (high)..
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:28 pm EST
PJ: When did I say he handles the puck like BR? His STYLE is like his. You don't see Richards battling along the board often, in fact you don't want him too. Its not "girly" to avoid your weakness. Stepan is a smaller guy, and doesn't outweigh most players. His game NEEDS to be less physical. You cant expect every player to play along the wall all the time. Its hwy Step needs to have at least one bigger winger, with that he can play HIS game and be effective. IF he is fighting along the boards he will be exhausted and useless, he needs to be in space, with time to make plays... that's why i think Kreider would be good for him, his speed will create space and time. Than the other wing needs to be able to do the real dirty work on the boards...Dubi s a player like that...what ever his faults this year, he has been good along the boards more than he isn't.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:23 pm EST
RF4L - Kinda true..Always said PO hockey and success was different than the regular season and whey we needed vet additions...But that time is abbout when teams started making changes and ramping up their intensitiy to match the Rangers season long effort under Torts....The Rangers strong points are not theior physicalityor team wide skill it's their teamwork, discipline and The King...At some point, maybe even this series, that won't be enough..The earleir it happens might signify the depth of changes needed to make them a PO/Cup WINNER..(not competitor, which they already are)
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:22 pm EST
So now the NHL play offs and its physicality are the same as the World Junior Championship....Ok....
PJ
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:19 pm EST
Wild...Stepan handles the puck like Richards in his dreams possibly but that is about it....I am not suggesting that Stepan dish out big hits but I don't see him competing for the puck effectively at all...Although they aren't scoring I see Gaborik, AA, Dubi, Feds etc at least battling on the boards....Stepan is more likely to pick off a pass or deflect a pass out to a teammate and stay away from the physical stuff....He is somewhat of a girly man, not that their is anything wrong with that...
PJ
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:19 pm EST
Stepan's game doesn't do well in the playoffs? Huh? The kid was the captain and MVP of the USA world junior gold medal team while playing against the best the world had to offer at his age group. The kid needs to growm and is clearly devoid of confidence right now. We have seen the same with the other kids on the team, most recently, Anisimov and Dubinsky. Stepan will be fine, and will continue to develop.
Bob
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:17 pm EST
RF4L: Yes and no. They really are a team that only lost 3 in a row twice, and only once in regulation...even with that less than stellar record in the last 30 or so. Its also not unusual for the top teams to loose a little more down the stretch, everyone is gunning for them every shift. But still, it just proves that this team is still learning, they all had to learn how to be a top team.With the exception of a couple guys they have never been "the team" that "should" win...that is a different type of pressure, and former NHL guys now on TV talk about it all the time...and talk about how much it can almost paralyze you and make you play differently. i will be very disappointed if they don't win 2 of the last 3 games, but only slightly so if they don't win the cup...well actually, let me qualify that...if they pick up next season like they played most of this one I wont be disappointed, if they fall back next year I will be....if that makes sense.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:17 pm EST
I think the Rangers stood up better at their blue line in the 3rd period last night and thus had the (much) better of the play for most of it. They sure had the puck more. Torts sees what we see, and more, so I think the adjustments will be made for Sat's game to try to limit Ottawa's offensive zone time. And as Torts has said a couple of times this series, they Rangers need to keep attacking on offense. And on the power play. The got the two goals and then they stopped moving and shooting on the pp last night. Everybody was standing still.
Zebop
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:12 pm EST
PJ: pick and choose if you would like...but I even mentions hags...sometimes kids just step right in, but there are many more who take more time to figure it out. Steps game wont work in the PO huh....well it is a lot like Richards, and he has done alright. I think you are being silly buy using 10 PO games over a ROOKIE season and SECOND season in the pros to decide a kid cant get him game developed. As for the going for the cup thing...well of course they are going for it...and going for it this year. TORTS said that he didn't think they were at that stage of the process yet... that's not me...I happen to think he is correct, that they are not all there yet...it doesn't mean they cant put together 14 more wins and get the cup, it just means that they still have work to do. No one is saying they should go for it or cant win it. Its just a reminder that even though they did incredibly well int eh regular season, there are still steps to take to get to be a cup contender across the board. As torts says, its a process, its rare a team steps into the playoffs for the first time with a chance to win it all and actually does...most teams loose, than go back the next time with an idea of what they need to do better. We may see that, hopefully they see what they need to do as they go and can adjust...but its not like they have been on top for years (Like Vancouver or the Sharks) and cant take that last step.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:10 pm EST
BTW, just did a quick review of the Rangers record since they lost to Chicago February 16. Including that game, they've played 30 games, 17 of which they've won and 13 of which they've lost. That's approximately a 57/43 percent split of winning vs losing, which isn't indicative of a team that finished first in the east and 2nd overall in the league. Of course, the games prior to that Chicago loss count, which is the primary reason why the Rangers finished as high as they did. Thirty games, however, is a big enough slice of pie from which to extract trends and IMO, those games are a more realistic sampling of what the Rangers truly are.
RF4L
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:01 pm EST
Wild...Yes really....Stepan may be young but his style of game isn't going to change and it does not do well in the playoffs...Hell Kreider with his little time has had better scoring chances....You make the excuse that Stepan is inexperienced then you say our top line is missing Hagelin badly....Just how long has he been in the league and how many playoff games has he been involved in before this series? You make excuse after excuse for this team including saying they aren't ready to play for the Cup yet....Well Hank and Gabby aren't getting any younger and I say BS to this we can't go for the Cup this year crap....The wait till next year attitude has led to one Cup in 72 years.....
PJ
Thu Apr 19 2012 11:54 am EST
Hospo: I guess I should have put more in that. it just that torts has kept his head when things haven't gone great. And I think its partly from how he feels about "the process" , I wonder however, if he got a little more pissed off if the team would respond better. I do know that when OTT scored last night he didn't look happy and let something loose that I am sure could not be repeated on TV, and I know the player caught it, and maybe that will remind them this is a game, but it matters, and there are only 2 losses left in this series for each team, they cant loose 2 more and keep trying. They got a little too much into the mind set of "keep going like we do and we will be OK" There may not be enough time for that.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 11:41 am EST
sjw: Agreed that the Sens have been playing a high risk game and giveaway stats support it. They are miles ahead of in that stat than the Rangers. Obviously, the risk is worth it because the Rangers clearly aren't taking advantage of it - 9 goals overall and 5 in the last 3. I'd call that, therefore, a well calculated risk....
RF4L
Thu Apr 19 2012 11:30 am EST
WILD - and then you come up with a post like "and lets all remember, that Torts didn't think this team was ready to really compete for the cup, that they were still in the process.....yadda..yadda.." ..Screw that, the East is wide open and the Rangers had/have as good a chance as any (have you seen the Goaltending in Philly and Pitt? the mediocrity in NJ and FLA)...thats what he needs to realize.....(But i do get your point about him not going ballistic)
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 11:27 am EST
WILD - Agree totally on that last one....Better forecheck and neutral zone presence is needed..from EVERY FORWARD,,,And It's not that the Rangers are doing a bad job in their zone...They are doing their best...But ti's an amazing amount of pressure and pucks and bodies to deal with..and eventually it leads to getting tired or running around or mistakes.........And they wouldn't have half the troubel if they could win FOs, but that ain't gonna change...TORTs is the key to the next game..has to adapt to what Ottawa has been doing and Me thinks he neds to look at using more players...We'll see
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 11:26 am EST
HOSPO--IMO, we wait around on their dump-ins and play around behind the net and give them time to get 4 guys into our zone instead of just moving the puck back out. When we dump it into their zone, they simply move it out. It is hard to score goals when all 5 of our guys are below the top of the circles in our zone. When we get the puck in the corner, there is nowhere/no one to move it to. It is hard to watch for sure.
Bob
Thu Apr 19 2012 11:24 am EST
ZEBOP: and you are correct and that is why this series is tied. As we have see. Twice now once you get to OT all bets are off. The NYR let this team back into the game. And for a second time it cost them dearly. And so here we are. A best of 3. On one hand it's fun but on another I just want to get rid of Ottawa and get ready for round 2. But now Ottawa is thinking the same.
E
Thu Apr 19 2012 11:23 am EST
and lets all remember, that Torts didn't think this team was ready to really compete for the cup, that they were still in the process...I think that's helping him keep an even keel and not go ballistic, he knows there is work to be done. Not that he isn't trying to get them to win the cup I'm sure...but I think he knows the strengths and weaknesses of this team better than anyone.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 11:17 am EST
Hospo: I agree with that, they need to have the puck in order to win...and if they give ANY team the puck in the D zone that much they will lose. What they do in the D zone doesn't bother me, its that they fall back to that way to fast. If that's how they handle the Dzone, fine, but try to stop them from getting there so often. Clog up the neutral zone a bit more, pressure them at their blueline, and finish the check on the guy who makes the stretch pass so the next time he is thinking about how to avoid that hit rather than getting the pass away perfectly. I don't expect that from gabby and BR, but Cally and Dubi need to be doing that...Prust needs to be doing that. Also make sure that at least one forward is high in the D zone, pressure one of the point men weather he has the puck or not, it takes away an option, they do it on the PK so why not 5 on 5? Take away one option on top, and it makes all the offense come from one side of the ice, because there is no way you can get many pucks across the ice through the slot with so many rangers back there who are so good with getting sticks in lanes. That will make Hanks job easier as well, because he wont have to move so much, and it will also force the play down low and the Rangers win that battle 9 times out of 10. It also leaves a guy up high to start the offense... that's what Gabby needs to be doing, be the high man, pressure one point, and than take off when the D gets the puck and go on O. Am I totally wrong with that idea?
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:56 am EST
Zebop - Exactly, and for one more cliche for WILD, in this case the best defense is a good offense....Don't let Otawa get the puck into our end...Froecheck harder and bottle uop the neutral zone and prevent the stretch pass...Once they get in the zone, they own the game with their big bodies and FO DOMINANCE...yeah, the Rangers are great at blockign shots and trying to keep it to the outside, but it is playing with fire....Zero margin for error on The King
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:52 am EST
WILD - you talk about the Atheletes spouting BS? When you just piled on about three posts worth of it? C'mon, of course injuries and suspension chage things..But them's the breaks....get over it and deal with it...Do your best...Simpley put I think they are trying to do just that but, for whatver reason, the best of Gabby and Richards haven't been good enough and they and the team haven't adjusted well enough..
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:45 am EST
Wild, I like your line of Step Kreider and Rupp. I think those 2 kids together could do some things since they have played together before. Rupp could give them some size and safety. I was wondering who thought maybe putting Richards back with Cally especially while Hagelin is out. Cally needs a jump start. I think Richards is playing about as well as he can. He is doing a lot on the ice and creating dangerous chances.
KIS
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:38 am EST
E: Ottawa might not be generating a lot but they sure seem to have a lot of time to attempt to generate it, if that makes sense. And that creates more work in the Rangers' zone, a lot of taxing board work at that, and when the Rangers attempt to clear, Ottawa's D seem to keep every puck in. And as you say, the opposite is happening for the most part in Ottawa's zone. A better forecheck is essential for the Rangers, but they need to possess the puck to do it.
Zebop
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:37 am EST
I was watching some highlights just now...did anyone else notice that the top D pair was pout against Boyle a lot last night? Did OTT decide to shut his line down? I know they were not as effective, but didn't notice they had the top D pair. I watched more and saw that at times Gabby and BR DIDN'T have the top D pair, and i think that's part of how BR got 8 shots, but the D they saw was more physical, and that trade off could be made with only one speedster on that line. Another trickle down of Hagelin being out.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:33 am EST
As for Richards and gabby...i think Richards is OVER simplifying his game. Yes the 8 shots were a great number, and a few were good chances, and a couple were of the shoot or loose it variety. But at times he shot the puck to quick, gabby cant do much if BR carries the puck in and 5 feet in writs it at the net to get the faceoff, or a pray for a goal. i think he needs to take a little risk, trust that the 3rd man will hang back and that the D can do their job along with Hank, and try to make a play, make gabby dangerous by finding him with a pass, even if he can shoot it, it will make the D have to stay put instead of attacking the blueline as they cross. OTT has a few really mobile guys back there, and the forwards know hoe to cover up for them, so guys like Richards need to try to lead gabby with the puck...send it in a way if it misses him it still gets down to the hash marks...it can be done, they did it when hagelin was in...and yes they are missing something from him, but they can still make the same plays, they just wont work as well
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:28 am EST
Hospo: You like to ignore reality and use cliches. Yes you need to use what you have, but its not an excuse or something. Physiology and players have something to do with it. Alfredson is a loss for them for sure...and that's why they lost one and needed OT and a balls to the wall dangerous brand of hockey to get to that OT. But you can not say, that if a player who helps a line go is out, that the players just have to go out and be like it is is when that player is there. That macho BS that athletes spout is just that BS. Its NOT the same with guys out, and they shouldn't be the same...if they are, get rid of that other guy, because whats the point, they don't need him. Hagelin got that line going, and it is not complete with out him...so I don't expect the other 2 to be as dangerous, and that the reality...not the fake world of "toy have to go with what you have"
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:19 am EST
ZEBOP: The NYR are doing an incredible job circling the wagons in the defensive zone. Ottawa is kept to the outside and generating little that isn't blocked or wide. That stated the Sens defense has surprisingly been able to withstand the NYR forecheck and clear the zone. The NYR, have got to get that forecheck going. They cannot win without it. As I see it, the team that deserved to win it, won.
E
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:15 am EST
WILD - No excuses, Sens don't have Alfreddsson..Yep, Haglein helped that line, but You make do with what you have..Results and production are what matter...At ES, I'm just not seeing much for Richards and Gabby, physiocally or on thescoreboard,,,But agree that Richards has been a little better...But, better late thne never...Do it now boys
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 10:02 am EST
Hospo: Ricards had 8 shots last night, and a lot of them were at ES. I tihnk with both he and Gabby we are seeing the impact that Hags had on them. Richards and gabby were getting the puck in for Hags to go get, and Gabby was using his speed to created gaps for himself, it made them dangerous, I am hoping that once hagelin is back he will step back into that role and make that line dangerous, and take pressure off the others, and maybe that will let them play looser.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:57 am EST
BOB - And I agree with the Failure part...and why I wanted a few additions at the deadline,..Wait, scratch that, we got John Scott!!!
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:55 am EST
BOB - Yes, Stepan is a kid, and a talented one..and he will get better...but alomsot evey kid in the POs is playing better than him...He is a non-entity and seems scared of his own shadow...And me thinks his confidence has taken a whack also,,,Deal with it Stepan!!...But you are right with the vets---starts with GABBY and RICHARDS folding at ES..At least the others are competing physically...
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:53 am EST
WILDCARD - Honestly, I don't get that one bit...Their skill is a secondary feature the entire series..They are jsut trying to be stronger than the Rangers..control the puck and control them physicall..Without the biog bodies, None of this would be possible.....And I think most teams would have given the Rangers problems physically, except for maybe Philly, Was and FLA....Doesn't matter, got beat who is in front of you...
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:50 am EST
From my observation, I totally agree that the Sens started playing a "high Risk" game...and gotaway with it.. I mean nothing to lose if your down 2-0 end of one.....and what would te wall be like today iif Winchester hadn't stopped the shot that went through Anderson and was going in ?? Even the HNIC casters said that would have been it for the Sens at that point ...
sjw
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:50 am EST
Stepan is a kid. He will get better. If the veterans on the team were producing, we would not be in this predicament. All the praise for Fedotenko, but what has he accomplished? Same with Dubinsky. I don't know what on earth is going on with him this season, but the playoffs have not provided any relief for him. When a contribution from him is even more critical with the suspension of Hagelin, he has come up with squat. Too bad. A first round exit would be a failure, in fact, anything less than getting to the conference finals is a fail IMO.
Bob
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:49 am EST
WILDCARD - That's a question for the off-season...You ask me right now, I say it's all about building a team that can WIN in the POs..and it MAY BE that the Rangers need stronger/bigger top end forwards....Either you get one/some to go along with Steppan's finessey game or you trade the talented kid for one...But again, that's an off season decision............As for our skill players, I look at how involved guys liek Giroux and Briere are, and see very little of the same from our skill players, including the vet ones who have to set the example....They need to step up.both physiocally and production wise..or Tort's needs to let them...
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:48 am EST
Hospo: That's what I meant...their skill set allows them to play that style of game that makes their skill guys not necessary. MOST teams need their skill guys to be a big part of their games. The Rangers don't in most cases, they need just enough from them...but OTT is the same way, so these teams counter each other, hence 2 OT games and games that have been back and forth on the ice and the scoreboard....the only thing the Rangers have better is team D. that's why they haven't trailed in any game. If their OT was better they would have swept them....but its their ability to simplify their game that hurts, and is why its the last team I wanted the Rangers to see in the this palyoffs.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:47 am EST
Too much time hemmed in their own zone. The way the Rangers collapse down low to block shots leaves the point men wide open to catch any clearing attempts, and it seems Ottawa has all day to pass back and forth between the D-men and look for shot openings. It's too taxing to play D that much. And combined with how hard the Rangers have to work to score at even strength, just not a great formula right now. Of course, having said all that, the Rangers haven't trailed in regulation and I still expect them to win. It would help if the non-contributors among the forwards join the likes of Boyle and Cally. Paging Stepan, among others.
Zebop
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:44 am EST
Hospo---just to be clear, do you or don't you like Mitchell? lol
pete
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:44 am EST
I think Stepan has been hurt by not having line mates that mesh with him. Gabby did some last year and at times this year. That is part of why I would like to see a line of Stepan between Kreider and Rupp. Kreider due to his skill and Rupp due to his size and veteran status, he can help keep the younger guys calm. But Step/Kreider could mesh well I think...well I hope...and Torts may as well start getting them clicking now, could be 2/3 of a line starting next season...or in the later rounds this year.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:42 am EST
CHIN - Can't belive I'm saying this, but for the shifts he has been on the past TWO games, Rupp has probably played better than any Ranger forward....The Rangers need a physical energy line..and they need it to play...He's the best we got, so play him.....FRED - Don't get me wrong, I think the Rangers are tough and grtity and full of herat, just don't think they are STRONG or AGGRESSIVE enough...part of the latter is by TOrt's design, but not the former......WILD - Except for that beautiful OT goal, and Karlsson...the Snes skill is an afterthought this series (hell, Spezza has been a zero at ES like Gabby and Richards)...They just want to go straight aheah...bang, hit, win FOS, control the puck, ram the crease and out physical the Rangers in front of the net...very simple hockey....compared to the Rangers style, especially..
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:41 am EST
PJ: Really...I mean really? Step is in his second year, he has a WHOPPING 9 PO games under his belt....and you are going to trade him because he isn't tough enough for the playoffs...how the hell can you be so sure? Not every player is up to 100% in the playoffs in the middle of their second playoff series. He was a rookie last year,and now you are painting his career after 4 PO game sin his second pro season...he hasn't been great, but give him some time for crying out loud...once again, a Rangers fan trying to prove the people who say "you cant rebuild in NY the fans wont be patient enough" correct.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:31 am EST
Stepan is the type of player that would have been moved at the trade deadline in 1994....May put up some good regular season numbers but not tough enough mentally or physically for the playoff grind....
PJ
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:25 am EST
I will say this about Dubinsky: At least he had shots either on the net or directed at the net. The former, however, as they've been for him most of the year, were right into the gut of Anderson. Stepan, on the other hand, hasn't generated a thing offensively the entire series. In fact, he's been lost since Tortorella put Richards and Gaborik together.
RF4L
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:22 am EST
josh: Because Ottawa started killing penalties like most teams kill penalties - cutting off the shooting lanes and picking up loose men in front. They were inexplicably bad in the first 2 PPs. Once they woke up, the same old ineffective Ranger PP took over. Interestingly enough, I found that in the ensuing PPs, the only time the Rangers were at least somewhat effective was when the 'top' PP unit went off the ice and less skilled players, instead of passing the puck to each other, started working the boards and shooting from the point.
RF4L
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:22 am EST
I am surprised at the strategy that Torts employed last night. He really played with a short bench, which seems silly in such a high intensity game. They spent the entire second period in their zone. Their process for clearing the zone was terrible. Dubinsky has been beyond useless. And the one thing they cannot have from the 4th line is a faulure to play defense, which cost us the first goal thatnks to Mitchell. I agree with the many who hve stated that the ramping up of effort in the playoffs exposes our lack of talent. We are a year or two, and a couple players away.
Bob
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:14 am EST
I don't get the faceoff thing...last night was one of the better nights...the Rangers won 28 and the SENS won 33... that's a difference of 5...5! The announcers were acting like the Rangers didn't win any, on this wall its like they lost all but 5!...the other games were far worse.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:10 am EST
The OTT PK adjusted, they were doing a very Rangers like blocking of shooting lanes. I think that had something to do with it. Some of the ice level replays showed nothing to shoot at, or lots of legs up high...at least on 2 of the ranger PPs they didn't have mush to look at...OTT buckled down, they did a good job, it wasn't all Rangers not doing the right things, or being bad in their execution on the ice.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:08 am EST
Ugh...brutal but we're coming home. We can't keep playing on our heels and turning the puck over. Can't believe the disparity in faceoff wins. Ah, its just a normal Ranger year....1 Cup in 72 years who was expecting one this year. As Hospo said there is definitely a lack of toughness on our squad and it shows with us not winning the 1 on 1 battles consistenly. Maybe there's a mirracle out there because that's what it will take for us to beat Ottawa.
MelvilleFred
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:07 am EST
I just looked...there are 9 Rangers with 10 games or less in the post season on the roster (that's with both Kreider and hagelin) I didn't realize they had so few games of post season action among them...and what, 1 or 2 have experience as the higher seed, and I have heard a few times from former players on TV that the first round is the hardest mentally for the top seeds, because they are supposed to win, and after that its "OK" if you loose to another good team...so they don't have a lot of PO experience AND they are in the tough mental position...not easy...lets hope they can pull it together and win 2 in a row.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:06 am EST
Afetr going 2-for-2 on our first 2 powerplays of the game, can anyone explain why we STOPPED SHOOTING on the power play and decided to go back to our ineffective pass-it-around strategy, or the popular dump-in-and-let-them-clear-it-out?
josh29
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:02 am EST
Hospo: i also think its the match up of teams...OTT has a team that has the skill-sets to counter the Rangers style of play. One tyhing I can say...I imagine OTT will be trying to avoid OT again. The Rangers have not lost what, 7 OT playoff games in a row, that streak will break, like all streaks do, so I imagine they will play the next game like it must be won in regulation...but the Rangers will do the same. Hopefully they can come out hard, get one early, and keep it up with the home crowd behind them. We all have to remember, that a few big cogs int eh Ragners machine, are just now getting close to 10 playoff games, so there is still some adjustment being made. The deeper they can get this year, they better they will be in the future...not that it will help in this series, but still, nothing replaces experience in the playoffs. Its the same reason OTT struggles at times in these games, and gives up goals quick, and part of why both teams have a chance to come from behind...its also why OTT hasn't been in the lead at all in teh series...
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 9:01 am EST
“In the playoffs it’s about playing physical and finishing every check, which is my game when I’m playing the way I should. “The playoffs are the most exciting time of year. The regular season is important because you set the goal to make the playoffs, but these games are so much more thrilling, the crowds are so much louder, there’s much more attention paid to it, and there’s so much more on the line with every shift.” Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/rangers_winger_fedotenko_steps_it_Bdz3kEPj6SnlL5mXGI2Z2M#ixzz1sUjrifcp
stevielegs
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:54 am EST
td: the one guy not being pass happy is Richards...the guy I want to be pass happy when Gabby is out there....but that line really misses Hagelin....in any case, gabby needs to shoot more, but he needs to make himself a target for Brich, and he needs to make the good pass to an open Gabby...
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:53 am EST
Plain and simple, the Rangers are showing that though they were a good regular season team, they MAY not be a good PO team as they currently stand...Not deep enough...not physical enough..Not strong enough..Can't win face offs.......As I mentioned over the weekedn, they do have the poise, smarts, discil;pine and The KIng to battle this...which makes it very even....One thing though, the Rangers on the ice are alost always thinking about their role, where they should be, their disciplene..At times a very good thing...at other times, I think it keeps them from doing the type of things you need to do in the POs....and also leads them to let Ottawa control the puck in the zone....And, hell, think about Kreider...If he was on Ottawa, he could just skate and play...on NY, he has to thiunk about exactly where he needs to be at every moment...tough stuff.....Not that it matters, if he doesn;t play...A shallow team being maded even shallower by the cCOACH only using 13-14 players while the other team plays more....If, these guys aren't ready, they sure as hell should have aquired some players at the deadline (A whole other issue)...IN either event, while being outplayed a little by the Sens, they may also be being out coached......I think ofthis post, and I'm not even criticizing the players....Yeah, Richards and Gabby deserve criticism for being zeroes at ES, Stepan has been wortless for weeks and Mitchell needs to be shot, but the rest are trying their hardest, playing the game their coach wants...So far, the way they play and the type of players they have just don;t seem as great match for the POs as it is for the regular season.....We'll see...
Hospo
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:52 am EST
td: agreed on Kreider, he comes out of nowhere....now that will become harder as he does it more and other teams pay attention to him...but I think more ice time would make him a threat...not even a lot more...get him to 10-11 min of ice time and I bet he makes the other team have to adjust. He played less than 4 min last night, and part of it I think is because although he thinks D, he isn't integrated into the Rangers system yet, and seems lost in the D zone...he is a smart player so I don't think it will take him long...and with 2 days off, he should get a good full practice in and that may help Torts feel better about using him a bit more. On Monday when Hagelin is back I hope the lines are Hagilen/Richards/Gabby, Dubi/AA/Cally, Ftank/Boyle/Prust, Kreider/Step/Rupp...good balance and speed on each line.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:50 am EST
I was miffed, bummer, pissed last night. Still kind of am. I hate being able to enjoy the OTHER series as a fan and get too nervous to even watch my own team. It blows that we have to wait until Saturday and then face a must-win, because if the NYR lose that one? Not good, is all I'll say. But I'm gonna try and adopt a what-the-hell 'tude on this. I nearly didn't survice the 1994 pressure so if they win or lose this time, i'm going to try and accept it and bad result there if/when it comes. As for the actual games -- I agree with all who say bag the damned rope-a-dope and put some pressure on. This collapsing-D routine is asking for it. I know we're hardly talent-laden but geez ... Sutter rolled his fourth line last night against VAN and they were effective, and from what I could see, there wasn't much speed or skill on display. And it meant the other lines weren't sucking oxygen tanks all freaking night.
Nick
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:48 am EST
PJ - Exactly. Great assessment...and that's a good reason why they lost...Another thing I'll add is that the Rangers really need to start being a little more selfish around the opposing net. TAKE THE SHOT GUYS!! I can't count how many times in this series they simply passed one too many times when the puck carrier had a clear shot at the net. They're looking for an open net instead of testing ANDERSON. And while he's a good goalie, he's only been in 10 playoff games to date! This is a guy who is going to have jitters and he's going to make mistakes on a one-on-one. You gotta take that shot when you have 2-on-1 chances...several times, the Ottawa defender has followed hockey 101...taken away the passing lane...and simple waited for the Ranger to make that stupid pass across. Gotta be more selfish I say...
tdchi
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:46 am EST
PJ: Part of what turned that game against the Rangers was in the 2nd period, the SENs players talked in the media about how they hit the reset button, at that point I think they felt like they had nothing to loose...also they turned it up BIG TIME...I was telling my fiance that they were playing dangerous, and if they didn't get some luck or play perfect the Rangers could take advantage...at one point BOTH OTT dmen were down low, and they had a forward by himself up high. But they did not make the mistakes, and didn't have the bad bounce...and it changed the momentum, and momentum has a lot to do with playoff hockey, especially in game. OTT took a risk, if it hadn't worked, they loose by a 1 or 2, but they knew they couldn't go down 3-1 int he series so the risk was worth it...the Rangers on the other hand probably felt like risks were not worth it...next game both teams will feel the same way, and I think that favors the Rangers....and I don't see Richards getting 8 shots with no goals again...he has to break through at some point I would think.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:40 am EST
pete- you're 100 percent dead-on...and the minute they went up 2-zip, that was my biggest fear. Then when Ottawa scored, I was hoping Tortorella would but his foot to the gas again. But he didn't. Even in the last seconds of the third, he held his team back. They didn't start applying all the pressure they could until OT...that was a coaching decision too...I've definitely warmed to Torts and even like him as our coach...but he made a calculated error last night...KIS - Whoah dude...cut KREIDER some slack here! From what I've seen of the kid so far he's played absolutely fantastic for the paltry minutes he's gotten...he's playing BETTER than at least three forwards I could name...maybe four or five...I'd like to see what the kid could do with another 10 minutes in the game...remember too, this is NOT a Callahan-type player. You're gonna need to wait for JT MILLER to see that...I'd say he's more of a Bobby RYAN...big body, great speed, good skill. But don't expect him to be throwing down bone-crushing checks. That's simply not the player Kreeds is...He uses his size and speed to cut through the defense and get a quick shot...if you caught his shot in the first(which almost went in BTW), that's QUINTESSENTIAL Kreider. I think it was Rupp who got the first shot...kind of an off-angle easy save for Anderson. But he gave up a rebound...suddenly Kreider comes out of nowhere and just riffles one that just missed the far post. Nobody...I mean NOBODY saw him coming. It was a great play, and if he got more than four minutes in a game, maybe he'd make more of them...and SCREW RICK NASH!!
tdchi
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:39 am EST
KIS: Methinks you're letting your emotions get the better of you. You cannot seriously be deciding what this 20 year old kid will or won't do his entire career based on his first few NHL shifts, shifts taking place in the heightened atmosphere that is the NHL POs??
RF4L
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:35 am EST
KIS: Thats just silly. Go watch Datsyuk and Zetterberg when they first got in the NHL or Stamkos, hell MOST young skill guys don't come in and hit everything that moves, if they ever do. Just because he is bigger doesn't mean he is going to throw big hits. He didn't throw too many big ones in college, but he used his size effectively, and I am sure he will use it well in the NHL. Using the fact that he has been throwing his body around as a way to say he is passive is just not right, have you noticed how many of his shifts he was in front of the net? That is not a passive type of game, that's a nasty place to be, especially in the post season, and he has not shown any fear of being there. Once he gets more confident I am sure we will see more of his size show...but to even compare him to Cally is silly, they are totally different players, Cally is no where near as skilled, and has had to survive and create offense from his physical play his entire life, Kreider has skill and speed and can create offense from that. Maybe some time in the AHL would help, but I don't feel like he is being hurt getting limited ice time right now...over a full season yes, but if he hadn't singed he would be in school and not even on the ice at all, so just practice time is good for right now. And I notice that guys talk to him on the bench after his shifts, and he talks to them after theirs so he is gaining knowledge that he wouldn't get any place else.
Wildcard
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:34 am EST
Well considering in our two losses we never trailed in regulation I really don't see how anybody can say we are going out in six.....Also not surprised at all being even now considering how our games went during the season vs Ottawa.....I am a little confused with our play when we have the lead....After game two Torts says we stopped attacking and that hurt us led me to believe he isn't telling us to go into a shell...Now we do the same exact thing last night....Our defensive posture is that of a team killing a 5-3 advantage...Drop back tight around the goaltender and don't challenge the points at all....I am screaming bloody murder when this happens....Also agree Prust and Dubinsky screwed up several times when they had a chance to get out of the zone....Also Prust's passing in the offensive zone killed some promising looking rushes....Hard not be down after last night but a win on Saturday we all feel much better....Bad part is Sens know anything can happen in a best of three....
PJ
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:23 am EST
Holding a 2-goal lead for more than 50 minutes is not as easy as it sounds. We had some near misses and if one of them goes we win. We'll get them next game, I refuse to believe "the better team" can be considered better if they've never had a lead in the series.
pete
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:19 am EST
RF I understand it must be a huge thing for him but once he gets on the ice there needs to be more instict out there and some excitement. Do you think Cally at any age wouldn't have thrown his body around. This is the first time this kid worried me. At 6'3 230 and a ton of speed he should be hitting some people. I'm afraid he maybe a passive player the rest of his life.
KIS
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:14 am EST
boys stop wanting more players, Torts could have 50 players on the bench he only plays so many. Some coaches are like that. If torts wasn't like that why the fuck would brandon prust be on the ice so much. How does that fucking guy get more time than Gabby. Torts likes safe. Hey dumb ass didn't you safe is death. This rope a dope shit isn't working. your team is successful when they press the pusck and cokmplete their checks. Don't fall back all the time.
KIS
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:08 am EST
KIS: I do agree that Kreider seems unwilling to throw a bodycheck. In his defense, it must be overwhelming at times for him - the intensity of these POs games he's likely never experienced previously. IMO, he needs to be farmed out - I'd rather see Newbury up - at least that guy knows the ropes and will hit. For sure, Newbury won't accomplish less.
RF4L
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:04 am EST
Hey as easily as this could be 4-0 sweep the Rangers could very easily be down 3-1 and fighting for their lives. 2-2 almost sounds fair.
KIS
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:03 am EST
TD, I said six games before the series started. I didn't like this match up the Rangers are playing Ottawa the way they have all season long. Ottawa always got to the puck first and pressed during the season and they are doing again. I said that I felt this is the only team other than Pittsburg that could keep the Rangers from the cup and I still belive that. If the Rangers can get by Ottawa I think they get to the cup but that is a big IF.
KIS
Thu Apr 19 2012 8:00 am EST
I know it is very very early for the kid but I hope he isn't the sole reason that broke the Nash deal. You hope this kid can become Rick Nash. I don't get how as a young kid just coming up you don't have so much energy that when you are on the ice you hit just about everything that moves. Kreider seems very passive. I watched his one shift and yes he follows the play well but he didn't make any contact or finish a single check. Kid, its the playoffs show that you belong. Get involved. You can be a player on the ice.or you can play and make plays on the ice.
KIS
Thu Apr 19 2012 7:56 am EST
RF, unfortunately I d on't think the diffrence is the skill this time, I think it is the hard work. To many times the Ranger players are waiting and reacting. They don't press the issue. I think much of that mind set is because they are thinking defense all the time. Nobody wants to get beat. How many times have we seen only one player go forward with the others going for a change. How many times have we seen long spurts in the defensive end because guys are collapsing or waiting on the halfboards. players aren't battling for pucks and the offensive support is horrible. This team nisses hagelin.
KIS
Thu Apr 19 2012 7:49 am EST
The Rangers finished first due in large part to their concepts of playing together and playing hard and that helps compensate for overall shortcomings, which as we all painfully know, with the Rangers it's a serious lack of offensive skill. In the POs, however, all teams work hard so that advantage gets negated. So here we are tied in the opening series against a team that finished 18 points back. The Rangers have scored 9 goals in 4 games and since the opening game, 5 goals in 3. And for sure, that pathetic goal production isn't a result of a hot goalie (not that Anderson has played poorly). Since game 1 (and even parts of game 1 the Sens were the better team), the Rangers have had little sustained offensive pressure and are spending more time in their own zone than either the neutrel or Ottawa zones. I see zero reason for anything to change going forward so if they're gonna win it's gonna be via the rope-a-dope style. Rick Nash anyone?
RF4L
Thu Apr 19 2012 7:44 am EST
I wasn't sure I even wanted to load up the wall after last night's loss...but I generally agree with everything everyone has said(except KIS...c'mon, dude...six games? Have some goddamn faith)...And I even agree with Torts: The Rangers DIDN'T play a bad game. Just not the RIGHT game...KEY FACTORS: They weren't bad in the faceoff circle, but didn't win crucial ones...the powerplay started off great, but quickly devolved into the man-advantage we used to have with JAGR. In other words, 15 passes in the zone, no shots and then eventually a puck clear...fourth line has to play more than four minutes in a game. If Tortorella doesn't trust those guys(BICKEL included), then he needs to bring someone up who he does trust...he can't play GIRADI and McDONAGH 30 minutes a game either...Also on the coaching: YOU CAN'T START TRAPPING WITH A TWO-GOAL LEAD. If there was one thing I'd hang this loss on; one silver bullet that killed it, then I'd point to the defensive posture the Rangers started taking almost immediately after that second goal went in. Tortorella was hoping he could do the same thing he did in Game 3. And he might have, had he at least carried the momentum through the second period. But the fact is, the dialed back the offense mid-first and then didn't crank it back up until after the Sens scored their second goal...STEPAN and DUBINSKY have been awful. I'm not sure what's going on with either, but they're one-hundred percent ineffective...fourth line, for what little we saw of them, looked damn good out there, especially in the waning minutes of the third. RUPP, surprised to say, had another EXCELLENT game. Too bad he only played four minutes. Ditto with KREIDER. The kid gets about as close as you come to scoring a goal then grabs pine for the rest of the first period? WTF? And this goes back to what I was saying about Torts trying to play defensive hockey for a period and a half: Look, asshole, it's not going to work during the playoffs! Of all the coaches in the NHL, you should know this! Anyway, with two games in the Garden, no panic here. Just the Rangers turned a series that could have been a wash into a nail biter. Fortunately for them, it seems like the rest of the series in the east could go the same way.
tdchi
Thu Apr 19 2012 7:42 am EST
Ola: LOL...how's this for a prediction: The winner of Saturday's game will be the series winner?! ;^)
RF4L
Thu Apr 19 2012 7:00 am EST
"we play the right way " torts quote. well if this is the right way, who are we going to root for when the rangers go out in the first round ? dubi may not be scoring , but he's one of the only forwards that can handle the puck in traffic, behind the net, taking hits , and come out with it. gabby is awful, br doesn't want to get hit, cally suddenly is stuggling, AA who knows. thought the 4th line played very well when they were on the ice, and kreider showed more speed tonite. the problem is all in the system, yes the system won the east , but in regular season , no team wants to get in prolonged board battles.THIS IS THE PLAY OFFS! every team will shut down the boards and do battle. this system says to me , torts doesn't trust or like his own team !! if the rangers can't make or catch a pass going out the middle , like the sens do, then they shouldn't even be here.i thnk i counted 2 or 3 center break outs last nite , all lead to odd man rushes and scoring chances.i'll say again , a few more heads up passes , will soften the boards and make it easier to get out in general. please torts , work on break out !!!! even on penalty kills , ranger with the puck won't get his head up , often hitting his own teammate with an icing attempt keeping the puck in the zone. i agree with all who think the race for pucks in our d zone was non- existent... wtf... our d ring the boards and we can't get a wing there ?? they pass blindly to the point, we can anticipate and steal ?? what sort of system, allows the opposition to hold the puck this long ??? sorry , but this is not "the right way " to win in the playoffs.
doct
Thu Apr 19 2012 7:00 am EST
Add a center to the off season shopping list.......
mf
Thu Apr 19 2012 6:25 am EST
This is the time RF4L, to say that the next game is really important! ;) If we win at home tomorrow, we get a G7 in the Garden atleast and I definitely take my chances with this team in that game. If we loose, god only knows...
Ola
Thu Apr 19 2012 4:39 am EST
The biggest problem is not that we (minus Hank) appears to be the lesser team at times, the big problem from my point of view is that we do things we have not done all year. We shoot ourselfs in the foot. We "loose" games. Because no matter how much better Ottawa is, they so far has not been able to prevent us from taking the lead a single time. Last night by 2 even...Four days before that, by 1. The OG by MDZ and the fluke goals on Hank is definitely a result from us being somewhat RATTLED. The kids just gotta refrain from sheiting their pants, and things ought to be fine.
Ola
Thu Apr 19 2012 3:31 am EST
.....rigth in line with my glass 1/2 empty German complex!!!!
MelvilleFred
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:28 am EST
Watched LA-VAN and Sutter threw that fourth line out there all night. One guy, don't know who, makes Rupp look slick and fast. But they were effective probably because they weren't dead on their feet. I don't know what's gonna happen but we either need to get more good players ... not going to happen by Saturday ... or play the roster we do have and let the chips fall. It beats dead men skating. This black-and-blue stuff makes writers like Brooks feel all warm and fuzzy and lunchpail-ey, but BFD. Play in the damn o-zone once in a while and put the fucking puck in the net. It IS possible to play strong D and actually still forecheck. That is, if you don't need to suck oxygen because the coach plays 14 guys all freaking night.
Nick
Thu Apr 19 2012 12:16 am EST
Bickel, Johnny Malkin, Kreider less than 4:00. MDZ less than 10:00. Gabby just over 10:00. Prust leads the forwards in ice time. WTF is that? These guys looked dead on their feet in the 3rd period. He kesitance to rush to pucks and battle for them in our zone was terrible. Meanwhile, we throw it into the Ottawa zone and they come flying right back out.
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 11:51 pm EST
We spend time fooling around in our zone with these dopey little chips of the puck as we let all of the Senators get in deep on us, then we can't clear the zone. When we do, it is a dump out to center. I lost count of how many times Dubinsky, Prust and some others screwed around instead of bringting the puck out of the zone. That is 2 consecutive games we were outworked and out strategized. We were burned by the cement-head Carkner because Johnny Malkin decided not to backcheck. We don't give that one up, they might never have had any. However, Torts ran Johnny's butt right back out there. For as much as they used Kreider, they might as well have dressed Scott. As NICK said, no way there is enough depth for this team to win the cup. Too bad. At this rate, they are going out to the Senators.
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:56 pm EST
Just finished watching the game. Had to record it. Furious, just fuc#@% furious! Is it just me or was there no sense of urgency? Can't blame The King but how many of those types of goals does he let in? Either the man is all-universe or just plain average. No middle ground. Also, if this Club loses this Series, which is very possible; a big, hairy eyeball has to focus on the guy behind the bench. The "bend/don't break" shit ain't workin' Coach!
pa.rangersfan
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:53 pm EST
This was a bad game. Up 2-0 and lose. Doesn't show confidence. What happened to torts saying safe is death. If this team plays any more defensively they won't win Another game. So disappointed. The only people playing is Richards and Boyle. The rest suck including cally tonight. How does a team with Neil being the force win. Tired of hear about so many sitting shit it seems like Karlsonn doesn't get of the ice. Phillips spezza faligno on the ice a ton as well. Rangers never win a draw or 50-50 puck. Like I said rangers lose in 6
KIS
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:48 pm EST
IMFO, Henrik goes to his knees too fast too often. Had he stayed on his feet, I think he stops two of their goals.... Yeah, he stole the last game for us, so its somewhat unfair to find fault, but, "he goes to his knees too fast too often"
mf
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:45 pm EST
HOSPO: Can't believe you said what I was thinking given your utter hatred for the man, but I'd like to see more Rupp on Saturday as well. I'm not jumping off any buildings. This team hasn't wilted after bad games all year, so I think they'll come out strong in Game 5.
chinstrap
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:35 pm EST
I agree you have to have your stars and Gaborik did little in Ottawa in either game...The lack of production from Stepan and AA still drives me crazy though...Say it again playoff style hockey and Stepan don't mix...Not sure it ever will...
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:28 pm EST
Hospo: Couldn't agree more. I won't say Torts has to go to the papers but he should sit down both Gabby and Richards(who I think has been reasonably good this series) and tell them to get their shit together. They make more than pretty much all of the front lines combined and are playing like sally's. Strap on a helmet and bring a f'n lunch. Boyle was good tonight, not like the rest of the series though. If he was, could have been enough for the Rangers to win again. Strange....
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:25 pm EST
This was why I was so woried after the win the other night....They were better then..They were more physical then...They had more energy then...They WON ALL the FACEOFFs then..Ditto tonight..Only difference was they won...Don't get me wrong , the Rngers had their chances..and the diffeence was't great but the Sens were the better tem at ES by a tad and deserved the gamee...That was some shot in overtime...but they won it in the 2nd period..tieng the game physically winning all the puck battles..winning all the FOs ..keeping the puck in the Rangers end for waty too long...It was utter chaos for too long..for the one goal...and FUCK YOU JOHN MITCHELL YO LAZT SACK OF SHIIT for the 2nd goal.....The lack of depth that I have yammered about for too long was soo obvious...Again, the Rangers basically played with like 14 players while the sens through out everybody..and everybody was a contributor...unlike the frequent passengers this team has at ES ---sissy boy Stepan, Gabby, Richards....STAAL was a monster defensively but the lack of size and strength in the back was painfully obvious (as it was before the deadlien!) again and allowed the Sens to control the cease in our end....And God do MCDONAGAG and DEL ZZOTTO have to put on about 10-15 lbs of muscle...sometiems seems like men playing against boys...Are the Rangers done? ...No way...They still have The KIng...The ystill hav discipline, poise and guts and smarts....but they are basically playing an even team right now and they are playing with four guys too few (at least)....Hell, look at the shift by Rupp and Co at the end of the game, these guys need to play more in NY...
Hospo
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:15 pm EST
Wow Torts thinks we played a good game.....That is a problem in itself...
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:09 pm EST
Does anyone know how Ottawa won this game? I do. They shot the puck and hit the net. What a great new concept.
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:01 pm EST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBm-cD9WopQ
mf
Wed Apr 18 2012 10:00 pm EST
Here I lie in my hospital bed Tell me, sister morphine, when are you coming round again? Oh, I don't think I can wait that long Oh, you see that Im not that strong The scream of the ambulance is sounding in my ears Tell me, sister morphine, how long have I been lying here? What am I doing in this place? Why does the doctor have no face? Oh, I can't crawl across the floor Ah, can't you see, sister morphine, Im trying to score Well it just goes to show Things are not what they seem Please, sister morphine, turn my nightmares into dreams Oh, can't you see Im fading fast? And that this shot will be my last Sweet cousin cocaine, lay your cool cool hand on my head Ah, come on, sister morphine, you better make up my bed Cause you know and I know in the morning I'll be dead Yeah, and you can sit around, yeah and you can watch all the Clean white sheets stained red.
mf
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:58 pm EST
Hate to lose. Fuckin hate it......
thedugster
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:56 pm EST
What;s that .. 7 OT games lost in a row.. unlike Game 1 when we got a third and then 4th goal.. nothin.. and we had chances from what I saw .. a sfar as "better" team I watch Ottawa turn the puck over and are somewhat sloppy in their own end.. they have been that way all year .. if we had any finish this series would be over...I still keep the faith that if we can convert on a couple of those turnovers( like game 1) we'll still win this series....
sjw
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:56 pm EST
Zero depth front and back won't win in the POs. We might still win this series but that's it most likely. This rope-a-dope D style and shot blocking works over 82 games but not in 7 against good teams. I realize no team is as bad as they look in a crappy loss nor as good in a win. That said, I never did get why the NYR were a 109-point team. We just don't have enough good players. We have a first line with a 14 goal man on it, in Hagelin; Cally; and about 8 third-fourth liners.
Nick
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:55 pm EST
What we need to do next game is score a goal on the first shift and then sit back the rest of the game while expecting our goalie to stop everything. Stanley Cup here we come!!!!!!!!!!!
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:49 pm EST
On the plus side (and for me, there's precious few of those tonight), I thought Staal had the best game of his season tonight. He was nasty, in position and actually had some offensive plays. Kudos to him.
RF4L
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:47 pm EST
Tend to concur cutting down to 3 lines and 5 D doesn't make sense when your 6th D is your most physical and on the 3 lines playing include Dubi and Stepan, both of whom are generating nothing offensively (especiallly Stepan - if MZA was heathly, he'd be a better option).
RF4L
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:47 pm EST
This whole "Hank has to make that save" or "the better goaltender won tonight" is absolute horseshit. Talk about not playing 6D or only three lines...you wear you goaltender down by having the puck in your own zone with people in his face for 2 1/2 periods.
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:47 pm EST
This will be the game. This will be the game that we will all remember when the Rangers lose this series in 7 games. This will be the game that we will all remember as the game that the Rangers had a 2 goal lead and a chance to take a commanding 3 games to 1 series lead back to New York. But like always, the Rangers blew it. The Rangers play-off history is littered with these type losses. This game will change the series. Ottawa in 7 and another season goes up in smoke.
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:45 pm EST
One thing I have to say is that Gabby and Richards have to be split up. Unless maybe they want to throw Callahan up to the first line. We need something close to a #1 line...and this game we didn't have it.
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:44 pm EST
Hank has to make that stop tonite the better goaltender won.......
thedugster
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:44 pm EST
PJ: You're giving them too much credit when you say 'sat on the lead'. IMO, they played like they have for most of the past 3 games - they are being outworked, outplayed and outmuscled all over the ice. Not sure what's up - are the Sens that much better???
RF4L
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:44 pm EST
Crazy to think that the Sens have never led in this series. We need to learn to put teams away... not by going into a shell and Out Ding them, but by out Oing them and playing responsible D. Thought we did that in Game 1, but not since. Hard to turn it on after you put it in cruise control.
Z
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:43 pm EST
Yes, we played like shit again. Did not deserve to win. Great strategy, let's just keep the puck in our end and let them shoot, we will block them all! That's life as a Ranger fan. It is never ever easy and it never has been, even in 1994. Oh well, all is not lost, best two of three snd two are at home.
MC
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:43 pm EST
That was me... I called Neil
E
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:43 pm EST
That was me... I called Neil
E
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:43 pm EST
wow that just ruined my night....just wasted 3 hours watching that excuse for a game instead of working on my graduation thesis. maybe i should include in my report that the rangers dont shoot from the point. throw the damn puck at the net...this blows...wonderful task to win 2/3
sportyplaya1188
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:42 pm EST
Well changing the lines every few minutes didn't help much either and I thought the combinations sucked...I despise Chris Neil but whoever said he wouldn't be a factor in this series was dead wrong....
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:42 pm EST
rngrsans - Exactly. using Bickel to clear Neil and the other wide bodies would have saved MDZ some wear and tear.
chet94
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:39 pm EST
what were the 3 lines....line generators? ......this guy loves dubinsky, so do the opposing goalies......
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:39 pm EST
PJ: Through a screen top-shelf isn't a automatic save....by any goalie. The real question is...when are we going to get a chance off a rush? Literally, just one chance off the rush?
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:37 pm EST
Out coached! Can't play 3 lines and 5 D
rngrsans
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:36 pm EST
shoot the puck already...enough of the 10 pass possetions. you cant score if you dont shoot!!!!
bronk61
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:36 pm EST
The Rangers didn't score a goal since the 10 minute mark of the 1st period. That's why they lost. Enough said.
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:35 pm EST
RDW...True we sat on the lead in the second...Yes I thought he should have made the save in OT....
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:34 pm EST
chet: The Rangers fluked into the 2 goal lead. They were outplayed all night, save for little stretches and like it or not, they've been outplayed more often than not the last 3 games. I don't know what the answer is, but if they don't figure something out, they will once again be one and done.
RF4L
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:34 pm EST
No scoring is an issue.. Took their foot off the gas and now it's 2/3 yeah.
rngrsans
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:34 pm EST
poorly coached and played game.....they better wake up, the 3rd and 4th wins are the harderst......
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:34 pm EST
At this point I'd rather have Newberry playing instead of Stepan.
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:33 pm EST
Great being forced to watch NBC to boot...Would love to punch Brian Hayward in the face....What a little prick...
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:33 pm EST
We suck!
rngrsans
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:33 pm EST
You just can't blow two goal leads. Should never even reached OT
chet94
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:32 pm EST
PJ: Hank has to get that one? Are you the one who drew up the "2-0 and the let Hank bail us out" gameplan?
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:32 pm EST
Well, the better team won...unlike 2 nights ago.
RF4L
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:31 pm EST
Should've never gone to OT... I don't know how we're going to go far in the playoffs if we can't finish off a team when they're down.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:30 pm EST
Son of a b**ch
chet94
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:30 pm EST
Killer loss...Hank has to get that one....
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:26 pm EST
playing Kreider for whatever little minutes, great scott could have accomplished more. ....thios is not the pre-season, nor the regukar season.......and get the freaking puck out of your own zone with authority instead of limp wrists.......
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:26 pm EST
Personally, I think the D has played reasonably well. I am finding the forwards are basically ineffective. It helps none that there are really only 2 skilled forwards (as we all painfully know) and they are being shut down bigtime. The 4th line is hardly playing (how many minutes have Kreider, Rupp and Mitchell had) and that only accentuates the problem.
RF4L
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:21 pm EST
I'm saying Kreider score the OT winner... of course, that will come after playing :15 seconds in the OT period... not :15 seconds in, but he will only play :15 seconds :)
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:18 pm EST
RF4L: Couldn't agree more on Dubi....remember when he used to drive to the net with the puck? Haven't seen many Rangers do that over the last two games. Cally as well. Enough with the Gretzky peel off and go to the f'n net and make something happen!!!!!!!!
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:18 pm EST
Would be great to see Step or AA get the winner....We played pretty well in the third...Horrible in the second....Just watched replay of Sens first goal and initially didn't realize how poorly McD played that...He should have just taken the puck away from Carkner...The guys sucks...
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:18 pm EST
Dubinski sucks. can't follow up on shooting or hits. Terrible and our D looks like it's skating in mud. Too laid back instead of attacking the puck carrier. The King is doing all he can do without much help in clearing the front. JMO
Louie
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:16 pm EST
Dubinsky, BTW, is horrible offensively. He either misses the net altogether or fires the puck into the gut of the goalie. I am so tired of the excuses he's had most of the year.
RF4L
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:15 pm EST
For the 3rd game in a row, the better team has been Ottawa. The Rangers fluked those 2 PP goals (because Ottawa, for whatever reason wasn't at all set on either) and then did very little offensively after that, save for the first 10 minutes of the 3rd. As with the previous games and all season long, lots of chances on the PP after those 2 goals and Anderson might have made like 2 good saves? Ridiculous. I realize they won the east with this shitty PP and are up 2 - 1 with the same PP, but dammit, it is SOOO frustrating to watch.
RF4L
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:14 pm EST
No scoring! Dubi? Artie? Step? We are in trouble ...need to get out of round 1
rngrsans
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:14 pm EST
We need this win... again, we failed to put the Sens away... we suck in OT in the playoffs, but we still need this win... Gabby needs to get one.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:12 pm EST
Was thinking the same about Girardi...He used to never miss the net....Was a threat with his shot...
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:11 pm EST
should be richards gaborik and callihan....NOT dubidont
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:09 pm EST
this is borderline embarrassing !! #1 team in the east ?? awful. when they get a chance to get out 1 man has the puck and the rest just watch !!!!
doct
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:09 pm EST
Does anyone else have diarrhea yet?
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:06 pm EST
how was that for a power play ? only forward playing well is dubinsky.. working hard in traffic. the rest are afraid of getting hit it looks !
doct
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:06 pm EST
Does Girardi ever hit the net anymore?
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:05 pm EST
Are these guys tired? That was a pathetic effort on the PP.
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:05 pm EST
ANOTHER POWERLESS PLAY!
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:02 pm EST
Come on get one here....GO RANGERS!!!
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 9:01 pm EST
SHOOT THE PUCK ON THIS POWER PLAY PLEASE!!!
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:59 pm EST
When did NBC become owned by the Ottawa Senators? Can't they talk about the Rangers a little bit?
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:58 pm EST
MDZ cannot move Chris Neil from the front of the net. The Rangers need to get a bigger body on D when he's out there.
chet94
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:58 pm EST
Good thing I'm already bald.....
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:58 pm EST
NN/RHET: Ha...yup. And RHET, Torts agrees, Staal seems have been moved up to the first pair with Girardi on most of his 3rd period shifts.
chinstrap
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:56 pm EST
Dubi can't shoot the puck into the ocean off a pier.
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:55 pm EST
CHIN.... You mean he's just biding his time mailing it in, waiting for his hockey career to end so he can get a job in fashion?
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:54 pm EST
I guess Dubinsky decided that this was a lost year, so he wouldn't show up for the playoffs either.
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:54 pm EST
Keep it up....We will get one....GO RANGERS!!!
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:53 pm EST
CHIN: You noticed that too about Neil
DOUBLEN
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:53 pm EST
Craig Anderson swallows.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:51 pm EST
Neil looks like Avery on steroids.
chinstrap
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:47 pm EST
IMO, Staal has been excellent tonight.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:46 pm EST
Spezza runs off the ice like he was mrtally wounded, and he is fine.
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:46 pm EST
RDW... It's why no one payed any attention to me, I wasn't making any sense :) ....Penguins lighting up the Flyers 9-3.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:45 pm EST
Much better this period...Should have been pushing like this all game...Get a goal....GO RANGERS!!!
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:41 pm EST
Paging Mr. Gaborik paging Mr. Richards where are you guys!
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:34 pm EST
Lets not doom & gloom yet... If we play a complete period we can win this....Pass the Morphine!
mf
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:32 pm EST
Lifeless... Zero offense. No forechecking.
Tucc
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:29 pm EST
Also, I know Staal has been a topic of discussion lately. He's getting back to his old self....the Spezza hit is proof of that. Question is....did Spezza get "stinger" or is it something worse?
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:25 pm EST
Saw the interference on Neil and Foligno setting a pick on Stepan on a different play....Have to fight through it....Really need to win this game...
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:24 pm EST
Rhet: I was saying right off the face-off...didn't see it on Hank but I'll go back and look. If you're going the call the hook on Artie call that shit on Neil
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:24 pm EST
time for the coach to inspire and lead. settle on a 1st line, instead of musical skates.......kick some sen ass on the scoreboard in the 3rd.....
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:21 pm EST
No killer instinct.
DOUBLEN
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:19 pm EST
The Rangers are at their best when they stay aggresive. Why do they insist on getting a lead and sitting back on their heels. They get a 2 goal lead with 50 minutes to go in the game and they go into that slap the puck around mode.
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:18 pm EST
Lifeless... Zero offense. No forechecking.
Tucc
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:18 pm EST
Being outworked badly in our end....Get up 2-0 and hand the game over to Hank...Gotta find another gear in the third...We have to play in their end.....
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:17 pm EST
RDW... Exactly... I was screaming goalie interference at my TV.... RIDICULOUS... The new NHL all about the ratings.... anything to get to a tie.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:16 pm EST
Rangers didnt need to pursuit guys like Gaustad or Phalsson for a 1st rounder....They shoulda tried to get Konopka for a 18th round pick.....Who knew he was better than Prust, mitchell and Rupp ?
TradeStar28
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:13 pm EST
Nice play by Neil of the face-off on the goal....I guess interference isn't being called anymore
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:12 pm EST
well, if this aint gonna be a traditional Ranger nail-biter..... ughhhh
mf
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:11 pm EST
Well that really sucks...
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:11 pm EST
rangers gassed ... totally exhausted , thats what happens when you try and play entire game in your own end .... horrible game since early lead.. don't deserve to be ahead ... oops they aren't !!
doct
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:09 pm EST
Hope Gabby's shoulder isn't too banged up. Scary.
chinstrap
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:04 pm EST
Our even strength offense doesn't exist....Gaborik and Richards need to work the Sens D....
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:04 pm EST
Nearly everyone needs to turn it up a notch, especially along the boards and battling for the puck. We look a little soft at the moment.
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 8:00 pm EST
Listening to these announcers, you'd think Anderson was standing on his head tonight, when he barely even touches the puck.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:59 pm EST
good time for a network time out. this looks like a nhl team against a pee wee team with a good goalie !! sure is fun to watch . would just 1 ranger player get his head up and look before he throws it away !! and maybe someone skate to open ice to get a pass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
doct
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:57 pm EST
I would much rather see Kreider than Mitchell on the PP... the dude hasn't looked right in the last few weeks.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:56 pm EST
Wake up Rangers!... Is Newberry better than Mitchell?... This guy is really pissing me off....Get some forecheck going!
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:56 pm EST
PJ: Can't really fault Staal, he was inches from scoring. BOB: Ha. Heyward is a little absurd. Homerism at its finest.
chinstrap
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:55 pm EST
Right now, we are being beaten to the puck all over the ice.
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:53 pm EST
mo-men-tums
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:52 pm EST
Johnny Malkin. Should not see the ice again tonight.
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:51 pm EST
Up 2 goals why is Staal behind their net near end of a PP....Come on....
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:48 pm EST
That sure hurts....Just can't give that up....
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:42 pm EST
Is Brian Heyward wearing the Senators' mascot uniform?
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:33 pm EST
coach is going with his gut with a 2 goal lead, I'd try Kreider on the 2nd pp line....
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:32 pm EST
Rhet...Do you think he may have crapped his pants?
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:32 pm EST
doct...you are absolutely right...Have to go up the middle as it is wide open...Driving me crazy....Have to get a decent forecheck going also....Can't hand it over to Hank now....
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:30 pm EST
Carkner is trying to start crap with Boyle each time he is out there.
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:29 pm EST
wow, hope we don't sit in our zone for 2 more periods ! getting beat to evey puck ! rangers broke out using the center once- easy 3 on 2 as sens are just packing the boards waiting for ranger to try and ring it out. good time to us middle, if nothing else it would open the boards up some . please , please don't just sit in zone for 2 more periods - or that 2 goal lead will disappear.
doct
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:29 pm EST
another fine defensive effort in the Amish Country... Pitt 4 Philthy 3...... Lets go PenDonkeys
mf
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:28 pm EST
PJ... Rupp played 1:12 and Mitchell played 1:33... KREIDER only :45 seconds... It's just ODD.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:26 pm EST
Kreider on 4th line...Not much time for them...
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:21 pm EST
What did Kreider do or not do that he only played .45 seconds?
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:15 pm EST
Heyward making excuses for Ottawa again. Jerk.
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:09 pm EST
Refs trying to get them back in this....A dive for sure
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:07 pm EST
We have to hit the net on odd-man rush attempts....if we don't Ottawa is going to bring it right back and make us pay eventually
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:06 pm EST
Shoot the puck Barry!
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:04 pm EST
shoot the puck!
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:02 pm EST
The Nose, & the Know's Not, aren't much better....
mf
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:01 pm EST
this is our 3rd PP, we need to continue to doninate cause the way the zebras are calling this, we're gonna be penalized too..... Good play so far by Staal with accurate stick checks, Stepan threw a good hip check on one of his 1st shifts to tak e a man out of the play
mf
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:01 pm EST
Neil "trying to get something going" means going around throwing cheap shots. Tell it like it is Shittaletti
RDW
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:00 pm EST
These announcers root for the Sens to score....Sickening....
PJ
Wed Apr 18 2012 7:00 pm EST
refs in cluelessland trying to control the game
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 6:55 pm EST
That was the weakest of make up calls.
Bob
Wed Apr 18 2012 6:51 pm EST
Houston: "WE Have A Power Play!"
mf
Wed Apr 18 2012 6:50 pm EST
2 great keep ins by Girardi. Let's step on their throats.
chinstrap
Wed Apr 18 2012 6:50 pm EST
CALLI-MAN
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 6:50 pm EST
It's a PP GOAL!!!
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 6:50 pm EST
Its a power play goal!
LetsGoRangers
Wed Apr 18 2012 6:43 pm EST
STRALMAN-MAN
stevielegs
Wed Apr 18 2012 6:42 pm EST
It's a Power Play goal!
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 6:41 pm EST
Off the top of my head, I believe the only team that scored 5 or more goals against us was the Penguins... twice.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 18 2012 6:35 pm EST
Stuck with Heyward also...I will have to turn this way down....Gets on my nerves big time.....
PJ