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Tue Jan 24 2017 1:33 am EST

Defenseman Marc Staal participated in the “extras only” skate Monday morning, the first time he has participated with his teammates since he began suffering post-concussion symptoms following a Jan. 3 game against the Sabres. Staal has been cleared to practice, but he won’t be ready for Wednesday’s home game against the Flyers, the final contest before the All-Star break. This is the third concussion for Staal, who has had a career littered with serious injuries. As much as he wanted to rejoin his team, he was not rushing back with an injury he knows can have an impact on his life after hockey. “I think having been through it before, you learn your lessons in treating it the right way,” Staal said. “It’s the type of injury where you can’t really put a timetable on it. But I’m feeling pretty good and going in the right direction.” ......... http://nypost.com/2017/01/24/alain-vigneault-shuffling-lines-again-with-kevin-hayes-out/

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 10:42 pm EST

Per @EliasSports, the only NHL head coach who earned more wins than Alain Vigneault through his first 1,100 games coached was Scotty Bowman.

Wildcard


Mon Jan 23 2017 10:35 pm EST

Bob: Agreed. This win is the King's for sure. The Rangers had minimal sustained play in the King zone. The Kings, on the other hand, sure are offensively challenged. Then again, they have been for years, even when they won their cups.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 10:34 pm EST

WILD--maybe it is because I had to watch the Kings broadcast. but shot attempts were so incredibly one-sided and if not for a couple absolutely hideous turnovers by the Kings they don't win this game. They have lost games they deserved to win. Tonight, they were outworked big time.

Bob


Mon Jan 23 2017 10:28 pm EST

Wild: The only rationale I can come up with is that AV is hoping for an empty net goal and feels Zuke has the ability to get the puck up the ice to a player in a position for a good shot. Otherwise, it's mind boggling to me. Then again lots of AV roster decisions confuse me.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 10:25 pm EST

Bob: Never liked those statements. Hank is part of the team...therefore if he has a great game and they win even though the rest of the team isn't playing the best they still deserve the game as much as they do if the goalie plays not so great but they find a way to win 5-3 or 5-4. No-one was saying the Rangers were lucky to win when they were scoring 5 per game, only now that they win a different way.

Wildcard


Mon Jan 23 2017 10:23 pm EST

RF4L: I think, THINK mind you that part of why Zucc is out there is because those end of game moments sometimes are just about working harder than the other guy. Zucc will outwork just about anyone in the NHL...that I think, might be part of the reason....at least it makes sense! LOL

Wildcard


Mon Jan 23 2017 10:09 pm EST

Talk about 2 undeserved points. Wow.

Bob


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:38 pm EST

Wow one second left and they score....Glad Zuuuc got the winner way overdue.

WIOSA


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:36 pm EST

Good win

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:36 pm EST

Outshot for the 2nd game in a row (this game badly) but 2 wins...

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:35 pm EST

Why oh why oh why does that idiot coach always put Zuke out when the team is defending a lead late in the game? I don't get it at all. Defense is NOT Zuke's strength. Makes no sense.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:32 pm EST

Deuce

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:31 pm EST

How much are the Kings paying for Brown? OMG, he sucks now.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:29 pm EST

mf: Like I said yesterday, McD has stone hands. That's not to say he's not a top 2 d-man and very good but offensive juggernaut he most definitely is not.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:27 pm EST

I like LIndberg's fiestiness...

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:27 pm EST

Hank, all world on that flurry.....

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:25 pm EST

6 minutes

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:23 pm EST

McDonagh needs to take slap-shots...

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:22 pm EST

8 & a half minutes to go

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:18 pm EST

Hank has be awesome

rngrsans


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:18 pm EST

Last thing I needed to see was the schnoz eating a Papa John's excuse for a pizza pie

RF73


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:17 pm EST

Rangers are gonna put Papa John and his boy toy Peyton Manning out of biz this year

TradeStar28


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:13 pm EST

The flying Wallenda's

RF73


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:13 pm EST

The King colour guy is a complete idiot....

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:11 pm EST

Nice pass by JT Miller

tlats


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:10 pm EST

ZZUUUUUUUUUKKKKKK

rangerlou


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:10 pm EST

YEAHHHH BAAAAABY !!!!

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:10 pm EST

Zucchini

RF73


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:10 pm EST

Zucc there it is!!

TradeStar28


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:08 pm EST

Refs still fuckin us from 2014 Stanley Cup.....They didn't see the replays that cost us the series?

TradeStar28


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:07 pm EST

What a crock of SHIT

rangerlou


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:00 pm EST

Agreed. If not for the KIng, 5 2 LA...at least.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:44 pm EST

Can't blame Hank... it was a Barrage

rangerlou


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:44 pm EST

I think AV shelved Chris Krieder right after the KK fight. Wonder what happened?

E


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:44 pm EST

Well he almost made it to five scoreless periods except for the defense.

RF73


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:42 pm EST

Zuke being hammered tonight...I hate watching my team getting pummelled like this.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:40 pm EST

No, asswipe won't be happy until they tie it up… He's got a bonus clause in his contract for unused Timeouts

RF73


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:40 pm EST

21 to 9 in shots and gotta be 10 or more that are quality chances. WTF...

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:39 pm EST

Post office

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:39 pm EST

OMG, call a freakin' time out idiot coach.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:38 pm EST

Can't get the puck out of your own zone… That's what happens.

RF73


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:37 pm EST

Bound to happen. Sloppy D for a long stretch here.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:37 pm EST

King gets crowned ... he's alive

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:35 pm EST

embellishment? Good grief Charlie Brown

WIOSA


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:33 pm EST

Embellishment...what a crock.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:33 pm EST

Pillar to post to pump-l

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:31 pm EST

Pump-L

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:31 pm EST

Told ya Peumpel was the obvious choice over Jensen. ;-)

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:31 pm EST

Pimple squeezes one in. ..Woot Woot Woot Woot

rangerlou


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:30 pm EST

Pompadour Pompeii

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:30 pm EST

Pimple!!!

RF73


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:30 pm EST

Puempelnickle!

TradeStar28


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:29 pm EST

Pumpel Sticks em..... woohoo

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:29 pm EST

Woohoo....Pimple pops one!

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:29 pm EST

Playing this game post to post… Literally

RF73


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:19 pm EST

Kings give up three power-play goals the last game and the Rangers can't even get a shot on goal on their two powerplays.

RF73


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:18 pm EST

I like the PP with Pirri and Zbad on opposite sides. Doesn't seem like they are working it like that though. Wasn't it kind of a 1-3-1 earlier in the year with McD on the point Zucc in the middle and Kreider in front?

RDW


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:17 pm EST

mf: And 5 shots in total. Same as yesterday except this game they're getting hit all over the place.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:15 pm EST

ha ha, 2 PP's, 0 SOG's.....

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:15 pm EST

Stepan and McD as PP pointmen....geesh.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:53 pm EST

Holy Crap....Stepan look a like a 70 years old Grandpa

rangerlou


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:53 pm EST

Step finally shaved the dome.....now he needs to grow the beard

TradeStar28


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:52 pm EST

The Los Angeles Kings are going to try to rough up the New York Rangers. Id expect Sutter to tell his guys to get the Rangers to the boards. Why not? The NYR don't look real committed tonight. Fatigue? Watch LA to come out physically and test them.

E


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:47 pm EST

Buch tripped...no call. Rangers PP sucks right now. Was horrid yesterday and this PP effort is worse. Thank goodness for the King.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:47 pm EST

The kings are like the Oakland Raiders.....except the ref needs to make the call

TradeStar28


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:46 pm EST

This PP SUCKS!

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:45 pm EST

Kings trying to muscle/intimidate the Rangers....score on this PP.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:44 pm EST

Nice right by Klein. This is what the New York Rangers need. Passion.

E


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:43 pm EST

sportsnet has the King TV feed and the idiot colour guy needs to be bitch-slapped. Says the fight was started by Zuke being fiesty in front of the net. Idiot. Started because McNabb hit Zuke front behind into the boards. Good job KK. FU King colour nob.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:42 pm EST

Love KK!!!!

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:33 pm EST

Seems to me the Rangers keep looking for the breakaway pass vs getting the puck in and working it...

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:32 pm EST

GOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLL.. ....Paw Pirri

rangerlou


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:31 pm EST

Finally 1) the Rangers get a shot and 2) Pirri gets a goal!

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:29 pm EST

Is it me or does Rick Nash fall down a lot??

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:26 pm EST

Where is the Rangers speed? ?? We can out skate these guys...Pick it up

rangerlou


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:22 pm EST

RF4L, been whining about the FOs for months now. We started out good, then slooooowwwwly declined. For the record, we're 29th out of 30 teams on FO wins. After tonight (we winning about 25% of them as I type) we probably will be 30th.

WIOSA


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:15 pm EST

BTW I think I heard the Rangers are 30th in the FO circle? If so, another WTF!

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:14 pm EST

Yet another sleepy start by the Rangers. WTF....

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:01 pm EST

Game On. ..Let's go Rangers! !!!!!!!!

rangerlou


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:00 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/23/rangers-urgent-need-for-j-t-miller-is-why-you-dont-trade-him/

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 6:59 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 2h2 hours ago More AV says Hayes was injured on a play, not a victim of the poor ice

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 6:58 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 2h2 hours ago More AV: We're not practicing before Wednesday, but if we were, Marc Staal would join us. (Sounds like he'll be back after All-Star break)

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 6:45 pm EST

So watching the sportsnet pre-game show and they polled players about their complaints and one player (no names) raised the interference happening everywhere. It's not the blatant crap we saw in the 90s and early 2000s, but it's there. All over the ice, starting in the FO circle. He called it 'skating interference' and examples were showed. He also said call those and that'll be the most effective way to increase goal scoring. Damn right. Coaches dummy things down the lowest skill level to slow the game down all the time - everyone can see. Yet, the NHL establishment are soooo slow to react to it. It's run by a bunch of gutless idiots IMO, so afraid of change. Ridiculous.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 6:41 pm EST

At 42 seconds...... http://video.foxnews.com/v/5291939203001/?#sp=show-clips

TradeStar28


Mon Jan 23 2017 6:41 pm EST

Bob...yes, in Hull, across the Ottawa river. Good point - another supporting argument for the belief that for Ottawa that trade was about now and increased revenues I think.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 6:40 pm EST

OK.....Did not know that. You are right that made it even FUNNIER. BAWWWWAAAHHHH

rangerlou


Mon Jan 23 2017 6:17 pm EST

rangerlou....That was in DC which made it even funnier....

PJ


Mon Jan 23 2017 5:19 pm EST

Moof pompadour is in tonight

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 4:39 pm EST

Anyone see Fox news reporter Lisa Kennedy doing the New York Rangers chant at yesterday's women march in Manhattan. Its Freaking Hilarious

rangerlou


Mon Jan 23 2017 3:27 pm EST

Doesn't Brassard come from somewhere near Ottawa?

Bob


Mon Jan 23 2017 3:11 pm EST

ATLANTA? Hope they win the Super-Bowl

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 3:08 pm EST

TD: IMO that trade reeks of a meddling owner, something Eugene Melnek has been guilty of in the past. Now why Melnek would want Brassard is another thing although it could be as simple as pushing to make the POs (for revenue purposes) which arguably Brassard, being more experienced and with a PO resume that is superior to Z's, gives them compared to Z. In other words, it was a now trade with the future having no importance. From a GMing perspective, you're correct - it's not a wise trade because in the long run surely Z will out-perform Brassard. But there are plenty of teams like the Sens who need the POs to turn a loss to break-even or hopefully, a profit and that can explain, I think, a lot of questionable trades. The Atlanta franchise was hugely guilty of that and in the end, it was their downfall (because their penchant for now trades kept them continually treading water and that resulted in endless poor attendance).

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 2:03 pm EST

To this day, I have ZERO idea why the Sens traded ZIBANEJAD. Zilch. I understand why they wanted BRASSARD, but Z was a kid that was trending upward his whole career in Ottawa. Bigger, more physical player...better at faceoffs...just as quick as Brass...better shot...the only area where Brass trumps Z is probably his playmaking...Z is a power forward...just a lethal weapon. And when all is said and done, I think that trade will go down as the biggest coup for the Rangers since the McDONAGH trade...maybe even on par with it...I almost jumped out of my skin when I heard about the deal...Really like Brassard and I think he's a very good number two center...but with TURRIS as the Sens' other pivot, I really don't get why they targeted him...and wanted him bad enough to give up Z AND a second rounder. Almost feel like Gorton called in a favor.

tdchi


Mon Jan 23 2017 1:54 pm EST

Moof no call up yet so it looks like Pompeii will be in. Or is it popiel the pocket fisherman? Alias pimple

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 1:26 pm EST

Arm-chair GM's, you make the call. ""Matt Puempel suffered two concussions within a month, and with all that is known now about the long-term effects of brain injuries, even one can be scary enough."" .... Erring on the side of caution, there is no way I'd dress this kid so soon.... "Nicklas Jensen" would get the start if the call was mine to make.....

mf


Mon Jan 23 2017 1:08 pm EST

I expected to hear 7-10 days or 1-2 weeks or something Ike that, 2-3 is a little longer than anticipated....oh well, it's not long term and not a surgery type injury, so can't be too upset

Wildcard


Mon Jan 23 2017 12:44 pm EST

Just reported by NYR, 2-3 weeks, leg injury. Spot on Wildcard.

jkropp


Mon Jan 23 2017 12:42 pm EST

Shit, where have I been living...just found out Mike Modano is married to Joe Micheletti's daughter. Hope you're right Wildcard

jkropp


Mon Jan 23 2017 11:46 am EST

jkropp: I'm betting Hayes had a mild sprain and he sits out until after the break. If it was more serious or they even guessed it might be they would have had him on crutches

Wildcard


Mon Jan 23 2017 11:45 am EST

RF4L: Totally forgot about the 2nd rounder....

Wildcard


Mon Jan 23 2017 10:51 am EST

WILDCARD - don't forget, the ice was horrible. Very difficult to put together long passes. One would think Detriot did that on purpose to change the NYR game and to give Detroit a better chance of winning. You can kind of read that in the Rangers faces when they spoke about the ice. But, you also make a fair point. Funny how Kevin Hayes tweeted this morning about the Patriots...meanwhile all we care about is his knee. I guess he didn't get the test yet or it's not that bad...

jkropp


Mon Jan 23 2017 10:46 am EST

Wild: And Gorton squeezed a 2nd rounder out of Ottawa to boot. If that's his first trade sans Sather's incompetent influences, I am looking forward to his next one.

RF4L


Mon Jan 23 2017 9:09 am EST

Bad should be ZBad....

Wildcard


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:56 am EST

RF4L: It seems many thought that Bad would need a season or two before he surpassed Brass in production. Now this season is just one season, but if its how its going to go, the Rangers got a steal of a deal. Younger, bigger and more production is never a bad trade!

Wildcard


Mon Jan 23 2017 8:53 am EST

PJ: I got the impression that the Rangers were focused on playing good D in front of Hank, and just as a team in general. The problems they had prior were not skill based, it wasn't the system that is wrong, it was the players not doing the things they were supposed to. Hank said something about playing with good structure, I think it was hank, may have been someone else, but n any case, that just shows that within the team they knew what the issue was, and I think yesterday was them coming to gutter and deciding that they didnt care if they lost as long as they played their game well defensively. I got that feeling, like if they lost 1-0 but really played well in their zone they would have taken it as a step int he right direction...they played that way and ended up finding a way to win. Lets just hope they can keep that good D play going.

Wildcard


Mon Jan 23 2017 7:53 am EST

“It felt good to have the structure in front of you,” ...????.....hanky blaming again ?????....

stevielegs


Mon Jan 23 2017 5:27 am EST

"DETROIT — The prognosis for Kevin Hayes’ lower-body injury was not immediately known, but it would be a huge blow for the Rangers if they lost the center for any extended period of time. Hayes was hurt in the second period of the Blueshirts’ 1-0 overtime victory against the Red Wings at Joe Louis Arena on Sunday. It was hard to tell when exactly the injury occurred, but Hayes’ last shift came with 3:10 left in the second period and he didn’t return for the start of the third, playing 8:41 total. “It’s lower-body,” was all coach Alain Vigneault would disclose. “We’re going to get home, he’s going to get looked at by our doctors, and I’ll let you know [Monday].” The Rangers play the second leg of this back-to-back Monday against the Kings at the Garden. If Hayes is unable to play, they currently have only one extra forward in Matt Puempel, who was just cleared for contact after suffering two concussions in less than a month, the most recent coming Dec. 31. Hayes, 24, has 13 goals and 35 points and had played in every one of the Rangers’ first 47 games. He was centering a line with Michael Grabner and J.T. Miller, which had been terrific. The Blueshirts just got healthy up front. Center Mika Zibanejad played his third game since he broke his leg Nov. 20. It was the fifth game back from injury for both Rick Nash and Pavel Buchnevich. This was the Rangers’ fifth shutout as a team this season, the first since Dec. 15 against the Stars. They have given up 2.64 goals per game, good for 13th in the league before play on Sunday night. In light of the recent struggles of starting goalie Henrik Lundqvist, the Rangers went into the game with a team save percentage of .907, ranked 18th in the league. Lundqvist’s individual save percentage had been .902, significantly down from his career mark of .920. “It felt good to have the structure in front of you,” Lundqvist said. “It wasn’t a pretty game, but it was about finding a way to win.” The Rangers had a nightmarish first period at the faceoff dot, winning four of 18 draws. It helped lead to them being outshot 7-3 in the first 20 minutes. “First period we chased the game a little bit,” Vigneault said. “Our faceoff percentage wasn’t very high.” They finished the game having won 45 percent of the faceoffs, led by Zibanejad, who went 15-for-22. On the season, the Rangers are second-to-last in faceoff percentage, at 47.5."...http://nypost.com/2017/01/23/rangers-hold-their-breath-after-this-key-piece-goes-down/

stevielegs


Sun Jan 22 2017 10:36 pm EST

So Derrick Brassard is on pace for a 16 goals, 44 point season. Good trade!!!

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 7:45 pm EST

Also, that ice was unworthy of an NHL game. That was one of the worst surfaces I've seen this season.

E


Sun Jan 22 2017 7:07 pm EST

Boring but two points and a confidence boost for Ranger D and Hank....Zucc a great pass in OT but the guy does pass up some great shooting chances....Seems to always be low scoring vs. Detroit....

PJ


Sun Jan 22 2017 6:36 pm EST

Im really bad now..I dont give a rats butt it was boring, bottom line is we won. We need the points...were sitting in the wild card seat...just not making me comfortable. Plus wee sucking at face offs again.

WIOSA


Sun Jan 22 2017 5:08 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/22/a-brutally-ugly-show-of-hockey-will-go-down-as-rangers-escape/

stevielegs


Sun Jan 22 2017 5:06 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 2h2 hours ago More Caught glimpse of Hayes in locker room, limping stiffly with brace on left knee/leg

stevielegs


Sun Jan 22 2017 4:48 pm EST

moof home record is not good so far....thank you nyr for the afternoon nap.....

stevielegs


Sun Jan 22 2017 4:38 pm EST

Snooze fest continued... Just reviewed our schedule up to the trade deadline and it looks very favorable for the Rangers. 1st: we have 35 games remaining in the regular schedule, and 2nd; we play 16 games up until the March 1, 2017 trade deadline. During the stretch to the Trade Deadline we play Eleven (11) of our 16 games at home, and 4 of 6 away games are relatively close to home. Jan. 23 vs. LA,… Jan. 25 vs. Phi,… Jan. 31 vs. CBJ,… FEB. 02 @ BUF,… Feb. 05, vs CGY,… Feb. 07, vs ANA,… Feb. 09, vs NSH,… Feb. 11, vs COL.,… Feb. 13, @ CBJ, Feb. 15, @ NYI,… Feb. 19, vs WSH,… Feb. 21, vs MTL,… Feb. 23, @ TOR.,… Feb. 25, @ NJ,… Feb. 26, vs CBJ,… Feb. 28, vs WSH

mf


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:47 pm EST

Yeah, there's that ... okay, 7-6 for a few games then a couple 2-1s ...

Nick


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:20 pm EST

Nick, only because it's you, I agree. :-) .. I think it ph_cks with the goalie's psyche and the team D when that many goals are given up, especially when you string a couple of those contests together...

mf


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:17 pm EST

Nick. .ditto!!

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:17 pm EST

Good for Hank. 20 wins in all 12 years in NHL. Boring game but we got the 2 points.

rngrsans


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:16 pm EST

mf ... why? My God this was a deep snoozer. Goals baby! Mid-80s style! The NHL has been soccer on ice since the Devils ruined it in the mid-90s. Small respite after 2005. As long as we get the 7 I'll take 7-6 every night. But that's me. :-)

Nick


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:14 pm EST

Haha would have been fun to hear what the story had been if it was a Russian "floating" hom min OT like Larkin did leaving Miller open. Good game, I take the SO even if Hank basically didn't make a good save all game

Ola


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:14 pm EST

Zuuuccccc with the Magic Johnson "No look pass" on the GWG

TradeStar28


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:13 pm EST

RF: Zucc's "deke" before the pass got the goalie to commit just enough that he couldn't recover at all for the shot

mf


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:12 pm EST

I'll take a game like this over a 7-6 contest any day.....

mf


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:11 pm EST

Mf...yes nice goal. Zuke can pass without a doubt.

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:11 pm EST

The King is back!!

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:11 pm EST

It's MILLER TIME!

tdchi


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:10 pm EST

Pretty enough for ya RF?

mf


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:08 pm EST

Rangers should have promoted JENSEN to make this game an announcing nightmare...two Nick Jensens...Glendening...Clendening...JT Miller, Drew Miller...

tdchi


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:06 pm EST

18 Ranger shot after 60 minutes. Zzzzzzzzzzz

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:04 pm EST

Miller suddenly can't pass...

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 3:00 pm EST

Yeah no wonder zuke doesn't have a goal in 116 games...

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:58 pm EST

Imagine shelling out $$ to watch this shit....shameful on both teams' part...

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:49 pm EST

This game is so boring. This is the perfect example of why Hospo doesn't like to watch these games anymore. Clendenning sucks and Pirri should be replaced as well

KIS


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:41 pm EST

Is Paw Pirri playing today?

rangerlou


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:40 pm EST

When did ZUCCARELLO become so passive. ...

rangerlou


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:40 pm EST

Hank certainly in "the groove" for that save.... jmon...

mf


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:39 pm EST

Bazookerella needs to pull the trigger instead always thinking pass first .

stevielegs


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:30 pm EST

Ohh...best ranger forward out now...

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:26 pm EST

Hayes done for the rest of the day with a lower body injury per Justin Tasche of NY Daily News

RDW


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:17 pm EST

Stone Hands McDonagh put a hell-of-a pass on Grabner's tape

mf


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:12 pm EST

Boring game, but given Hanks four last game I don't mind seeing a trapfest...

Ola


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:11 pm EST

Listen to the arena. Full house and nothing going on. These are two teams that for whatever reason brings out the boring in both. Just a weird matchup

E


Sun Jan 22 2017 2:00 pm EST

Rangers-Red Wings games are.always been low scoring and low energy

rangerlou


Sun Jan 22 2017 1:58 pm EST

Pirri sucks...

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 1:50 pm EST

Only forward who's awake is Hayes. Too bad McD has stone hands...

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 1:47 pm EST

Boring game

rngrsans


Sun Jan 22 2017 1:44 pm EST

This is a horrid hockey game. Zero passion. Zero energy. Buttman hockey!!

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 1:37 pm EST

Make Larkin pay for that sneaky tripping call

tlats


Sun Jan 22 2017 1:22 pm EST

At least Hank is looking a bit more confortable

rangerlou


Sun Jan 22 2017 1:08 pm EST

3 shots with a minute to go in the first...

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 1:01 pm EST

Not much going on offensively by the Rangers so far...

RF4L


Sun Jan 22 2017 7:09 am EST

The league sent a memo to teams earlier this week stating by Feb. 4, all goalies will have to wear the newly sized pants, which have less padding around the hips and are tighter around the thighs. Goaltenders around the league knew this was coming, though they never had a concrete date set.

stevielegs


Sun Jan 22 2017 12:28 am EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/21/strange-omissions-reveal-nhls-real-motive-for-greatest-100-list/

mf


Sun Jan 22 2017 12:15 am EST

http://www.foxsports.com/nhl/story/new-york-rangers-nicklas-jensen-has-higher-skill-012117

mf


Sat Jan 21 2017 6:56 pm EST

One thing I notice with Grabner that maybe don't stick out as much from a NA perspective, is that extra motivation he has right now. A player like him, or Zucc, can all of a sudden be the hottest athletes in their country. Grabner is maybe not LeBron of Austria, but not far from it. Same with Zucc. Sometimes it's like these type of guys can find an extra gear thanks to it. Extra motivation. They get so much attention, so much more support and acknowledgement, for playing at a lower level than a Swede, American or Canadian would. You can see it in Grabner right? He is a little more firely than players like him usually are.

Ola


Sat Jan 21 2017 6:50 pm EST

Hockey has the best names, players but also teams. Cuththroats vs Cuttonmouhts hehe

Ola


Sat Jan 21 2017 4:22 pm EST

Michael Grabner: (turns 30 in Oct. plenty of hockey left in this guy)... http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/player/5729

mf


Sat Jan 21 2017 4:21 pm EST

MelvilleFred: try true on Grabner, but at the same time a lot of people who do the mocks seem to think Ranta is the guy they will take...they need to grab 3 goalies....its not an easy pick from the Rangers like it is from a few other teams. For instance if the Pens don't move Fleury Murray will be snagged....If they do move him it will adjust the goalie landscape for Vegas. It could turn out that Ranta is one of the best 3 net minders out there for them.

Wildcard


Sat Jan 21 2017 3:55 pm EST

Any trade the Rangers consider better include a way to keep Grabner away from Las Vegas. I don't think he'll put up this number of goals next year but we need this guy badly. A very disruptive player.

MelvilleFred


Sat Jan 21 2017 2:54 pm EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-what-should-the-blues-do-with-kevin-shattenkirk

mf


Sat Jan 21 2017 11:58 am EST

Wild - I suppose. I just can find too many teams where KLEIN falls into the top 10 guys to be protected...and then if you're the buyer, you have to think: Are you willing to give up a player or an asset that you didn't need to protect in exchange? Probably not...then the other scenario is that the Rangers swap Klein for another player they don't intend to protect...then is it worth making the swap in the first place? Point is, trades are complex negotiations in the first place...now they're twice as hard because if you're a sensible GM, you're having to think both in terms of the playoffs and what happens afterward. I think we'll see some moves coming up, but I suspect this trade deadline will be one of the quietest we've seen in years...I know the rumor talk is absolutely dead right now at a time when it's usually starting to heat up...rumor sites and Twitter just bone dry...nothing but totally idle speculation.

tdchi


Sat Jan 21 2017 11:48 am EST

Guys, didn't mean to imply the Rangers are or would have interest in DUCHENE...I mean, stranger things have happened...but the only way I see him coming to New York is if STEPAN and/or ZUCCARELLO are headed the other direction...think maybe before ZIBANEJAD came here, he might have been on the radar...but it's pretty clear the Rangers at this point are VERY strong up the middle...not to many teams that can boast a better trio than Z, STEP and HAYES...and Z has been just a beast since he came back...the kid is an all-star...but I digress...Duch would end up on the wing...and while he might be an upgrade, I just couldn't see the Rangers giving up what the AVs would want for him...if there was a guy I could see them wanting, it'd be LANDESKOG...he's more of what the Rangers could use...but even there, you're only improving a part of the team that is already dominant...I think the two most critical elements the Rangers need to address is an upgrade on the right D and to add some snarl to the bottom lines...the one guy on the Avs the Rangers could probably get cheap who would help them with both the right side on D and adding physicality to the lineup is Erik JOHNSON...but that kind of acquisition is next to impossible given Johnson's cap hit and his NMC, which, I believe, would mean he's got to be protected in the draft...but he could probably be had on the cheap...maybe even something like LINDBERG and a pick...think the Avs would be psyched to get out from his cap hit.

tdchi


Sat Jan 21 2017 11:32 am EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/henrik-sedin-joins-1-000-point-club

mf


Fri Jan 20 2017 10:56 pm EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/sphl-s-cottonmouths-involved-in-rollover-bus-crash-escape-without-life-threatening-injuries

mf


Fri Jan 20 2017 9:06 pm EST

E: I was just using the Rangers as an example of what the asking price for Duchene is....and that asking price is way way to much...he has issues that counter the on ice output.

Wildcard


Fri Jan 20 2017 8:31 pm EST

Duchene is a great asset. I think he needs a new start somewhere. But of the New York Rangers needs I am pretty sure scoring goals are not one of them. They need defense. Offensive production from the blue line. A fast blue line. A mobile blue line. And right now, you have two guys who can skate. And one of them is a rookie. The other OKAY skater's wheels have fallen off. If the New York Rangers wanna be thinking of themselves as a contender then on paper this is the biggest concern. Because frankly, going into a post season with those 6 I am not sure is gonna get it done. Odds are against it. New York Rangers will lose every game 6-5.

E


Fri Jan 20 2017 8:27 pm EST

I don't see why Dallas would be anxious at all to move Rousell. That guy has been Mr. All-things-pain-in-the-ass for them. Good role player. They need goaltending.

E


Fri Jan 20 2017 7:59 pm EST

td: Also the AVS want for Duchene something in terms of (if the rangers were involved) Skjei,Fast,Nieves, and a first rounder...its crazy talk by them....

Wildcard


Fri Jan 20 2017 7:57 pm EST

td: DOnt underestimate what Klein may fetch, a team that feels like they can resign him will give up a decent amount. Teams like the AVS literally have 1 top 4 Dman at the moment....Klein may not be playing well, and we as Rangers fans see a problem, and he is one of the weaker Rangers Dmen, but on the AVS he would be outplaying at least 5 of their D. They have a couple kids, but nothing that really stands out....Klein would probably get the Rangers a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Don't forget, Dmen who are not as good and older have gotten 2nd rounders+ and players like Dom Moore have grabbed a team two 2nd rounders at the deadline. Of course with his off year this year he wont get a high 2nd, but a late 2nd or a 3rd wouldn't be out of the question.

Wildcard


Fri Jan 20 2017 7:43 pm EST

Here's a major factor you have to add in when plugging into the trade generator: Guys that will be at a premium are ones who don't need to be protected. Guys who are going to be just about worthless are those who don't stand a chance of being protected...so while a package of FAST and LINDBERG might have gotten you a decent return of picks and/or prospects, it ain't going to get you anything more than a guy you're prepared to lose in six months. PIRRI won't get you squat...ditto with someone like KLEIN. So we're down to making deals that involve some of the chosen ones...deals where the Rangers give up picks/prospects, or deals where they give up trash and recieve garbage back. That's why the trade market has been so unbelievably dead lately. Even teams like the Avalanche, where guys like DUCHENE and LANDESKOG are in the block are basically in a holding pattern because the most likely trading partners are still trying to figure out how they're going to protect another guy...that's my suscpicion for why the Ducks still have a log jam at D and why SHATTENKIRK isn't a Ranger yet. Ditto why TROUBA is still a Jet.

tdchi


Fri Jan 20 2017 6:20 pm EST

Pirri's NHL career is slip-sliding away...

RF4L


Fri Jan 20 2017 5:55 pm EST

VIC: which may have us taking a look at UFA to be RHS defensemen for starters.... Unfortunately I can't find a site that categorizes LHS vs RHS, saves lots of time... http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/freeagents.php?team=all&type=UFA&year=2017&pos=D

mf


Fri Jan 20 2017 5:49 pm EST

MF: I'd love to add a guy like ROUSSEL but I don't think the Stars would be willing to part with him and he is making $1.8 Million. And where would he play? The only spot would be 4th line LW, and that would mean both PIRRI and PIMPLE are sent packing. That would leave you with a 4th line of LINDBERG centering ROUSSEL and FAST. If the money could be worked out (and of course a reasonable package going the other way) I would be interested. But the Rangers need more help on D then they do up front.

Vic


Fri Jan 20 2017 4:47 pm EST

Outside of JT Miller & Krieder & perhaps Z'bad, where's the grit?

mf


Fri Jan 20 2017 4:33 pm EST

Think about this, the current depth chart is: LW - Chris Kreider, Rick Nash, Michael Grabner, Jimmy Vesey, Matt Puempel C - Derek Stepan, Kevin Hayes, Mika Zibanejad, Oscar Lindberg, Marek Hrivik, Cristoval Nieves RW - Mats Zuccarello, J.T. Miller, Pavel Buchnevich, Jesper Fast, Brandon Pirri, Nicklas Jensen. That is one hell of a depth chart for the forward lines....Other than Pirri I can't say I would be OK with any of them going away. Jensen would be the next easiest to let go of, but mostly because I have seen so little of him, and Hrivik after that because he is not special in any way, good lower line guy, but there are lots of them out there....the rest I would not want to see go, and it would take one hell of a return to be ok with a trade IMHO.

Wildcard


Fri Jan 20 2017 4:12 pm EST

Pirri can do one thing....shoot the puck, he does it very well, but he doesn't pass all that great, if he needs to handles the puck in traffic its a disaster at times (more often than not) he telegraphs what he is going to do most of the time. Puempel brings a more rounded game, and Fast brings a more rounded game, there is no need for Pirri on this roster, especially with how well the kids are playing, Vesey may have his flaws right now, but he is not lost out there and I think will get better with more consistent line mates (hopefully once the other Fs are all healthy he will get more consistency in that regard) I do think however that he may be sat a bit when everyone is healthy, he may need to take a step back, at times he seems to be thinking far too much on the ice and not just reacting. A game or two to "watch" may be what he needs. But anyway, Pirri I think will be gone, and it will not upset me one bit....its not like this team is lacking offensive punch with out him.

Wildcard


Fri Jan 20 2017 3:43 pm EST

mf: https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft is a great tool for the expansion draft if you don't have one. Shows who meets the criteria for exposure and all that. have played with it quite a bit, and found its harder than you would think to "play" Vegas and pick a team that fall within all the rules and cap.

Wildcard


Fri Jan 20 2017 3:09 pm EST

RF: better make sure your's isn't plugged in somewhere... ;-)

mf


Fri Jan 20 2017 3:08 pm EST

Well, bust my buttons! Why didn't you say that in the first place? That's a horse of a different color! :-) Then trade Pirri when the time is right & see if we can get a late round pick for him

mf


Fri Jan 20 2017 1:56 pm EST

MF: TLATS is correct that PIRRI is a left handed shot. Also, PIRRI is a poor skater who has added very little at even strength in his 44 games. He has scored 15 points total in those 44 games. PIMPLE has scored 6 points in 13 games. It took him a little while to get going because he had not been playing much before he got here. Once he got some confidence and timing he was very good. He skates well and has really good hands. Doesn't have PIRRI's shot but is a better player in almost every other way. PIMPLE is almost 2 years younger, two inches bigger and makes less money. If one has to go then from what I have seen so far I hope it is PIRRI.

Vic


Fri Jan 20 2017 1:47 pm EST

Pirri is a left handed shot

tlats


Fri Jan 20 2017 1:38 pm EST

TD: Separate chairs!!

RF4L


Fri Jan 20 2017 1:29 pm EST

VIC: agree & disagree.. IMO Pirri has one of the best "one time" shots on the squad, AND, a Right Handed Shot at that... He has scored some great goals, his problem (imo) is his consistency and defensive play... I'm reluctant to cut bait with this guy because of his offensive potential... OAN: I see us in a similar position as when we were dealing Cam Talbot & Hagelin... We have depth, Can we, and I'd like to see IF we could bundle a bunch of depth to "trade up" for a higher talent... Unfortunately, we have the expansion draft this year and a move like that may be hamstrung..... I'd need to write down who we are likely to protect & leave exposed to discuss such a move further

mf


Fri Jan 20 2017 1:00 pm EST

MF: I think PIRRI's job is in jeopardy. When PIMPLE is ready to play I have to believe that AV is going to give him a chance. He produced for this team before he got hurt. When FAST comes back the Rangers will be carrying 2 extra forwards. I can't believe they are going to do that long term. Someone is getting cut and someone is going to be a black ace, unless AV goes with a rotation. With BUCH now on the PP playing the role they had PIRRI playing originally there is less need for him.

Vic


Fri Jan 20 2017 11:42 am EST

I was not happy with the consistency of hustle by Pirri / Vesey / Lindberg specifically when they were on the defensive side of the puck..... IMO AV MUST stress that the 4th line be accountable. Yeah it's nice to have a 4th line to pitch in with a goal, but with our top 9 in front of the 4th, its not like we're counting on the 4th to win the game on the offensive side of the play..... jmclueless pov natcherally

mf


Fri Jan 20 2017 11:17 am EST

Here is a funny 4 min clip with Gary Gulman talking about sleeping on the couch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVbTfGcNuMw

TradeStar28


Fri Jan 20 2017 10:32 am EST

RF4L - That must be one hell of a comfrotable couch if you're wife is jealous ;)

tdchi


Fri Jan 20 2017 10:06 am EST

Good game by the Rangers and Hank....Leafs were hot and to dominate them like that in their building is no small task....Hank looked much better and could not be faulted for either goal....A bad change on the first one with Pirri not hustling to get into the play and Klein with head up ass....Clendening undressed and abused on second goal.....Skjei much better in this one too....

PJ


Fri Jan 20 2017 9:27 am EST

Regarding HANK. Yes, he is already on the downside of his career. We all know that. He isn't the dominant goaltender he used to be. He was never perfect.....nobody is. But what I've noticed as he has aged is this. When in his younger years and prime he would have the occasional stinker game. Sometimes even a bad stretch. But he would rebound and play great for a long time before he had another one. The last few years have been different. Since those first 20 games of last season HANK's top end game has gone from GREAT to very good. He is having more of these games and stretches where he looks lost and is fighting the puck. And when he bounces back he seems to play well for a few games and then goes into another round of tailspins. Some of it is confidence and the defense in front of him. But a lot of it is his diminishing physical ability. He isn't as quick as he used to be. He can't close the 5 hole fast enough any more. He isn't seeing the puck as well either. None of this would really bother me in the context of this team as I think he is still good enough to win with, especially with this offense in front of him. However, the part that really hurts is the fact that he is being paid an absurd amount of money. Money that his play can no longer justify. Money that could otherwise and should otherwise be better spent to upgrade the D in front of him. And that may keep him and the team from ultimately winning the Cup.

Vic


Fri Jan 20 2017 9:17 am EST

On the last few games.....Defensively they have reverted to a lot of what they were doing last year. Massive gaps in coverage. Multiple guys going after a single player leaving another one or two completely open. Leaving the crease completely undefended. And even worse standing around watching when there were Rangers near the crease. Offensively, what is there not to like right now? They have their Top 9 healthy for the first time in months and all three top lines are firing on all cylinders.

Vic


Fri Jan 20 2017 9:13 am EST

NO to MARTIN. Not because I don't like his grit, hitting and overall "difficult to play against game". I would love a lot more of that on this team. What doesn't work is his skating. He is too slow to play for this team.

Vic


Fri Jan 20 2017 8:28 am EST

Never been a fan of MARTIN, even if you could somehow wash the Islander stink off of him. But I see why some here wanted him and don't disagree he'd be a nice addition...I just don't like his contract. Think he's overpaid even now, much less when he's four years older at the end of his contract...That's why I think they should go after someone younger...maybe even in the AHL...to fill that sandpaper capacity...VIRTANEN is still top on my list...bet the combination of a prospect and a pick...or even a player like LINDBERG and a pick could make that happen...MATTEAU is the other I mention often...But several others that could probably be had on the cheap...sticking with the legacies...Brendan LEMIEUX...Kerby RYCHEL...JC LIPON is another...all players that can skate and score, but play with a real edge...all AV-type players.

tdchi


Fri Jan 20 2017 5:07 am EST

“As soon as he tells me he’s good to go, he’s going to play,” the coach said before the Rangers’ 5-2 victory over the Maple Leafs on Thursday night. “With what Marc brings to the team, I’m going to put him in as soon as he’s healthy.”

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 11:25 pm EST

Need NHL study ....http://wtop.com/nfl/2017/01/whose-side-nfl-referees-make-big-difference/

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:28 pm EST

Glen Healy Monday night on msg for nyr game.... good guy big help in 94!

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:27 pm EST

Nice game by the King - not top notch but far better than lately. Let's hope this is the start of his recovery....it'll be depressing if he slips back next game...

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:25 pm EST

Hank gets the hat but not the crown yet

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:21 pm EST

no sir...

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:20 pm EST

MF....u ever go to the Fortune Wheel on Hempstead Turnpike in Levittown?

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:16 pm EST

LOL...nope, but she's jealous! Woohoo!

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:12 pm EST

I thought our 4th line sucked

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:11 pm EST

Too bad nyr couldn't afford Martin he's their missing ingredient. He's a real pos .

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:11 pm EST

Peeking Duck

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:11 pm EST

Great win. They came out, set the right tone and played some defense for once.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:08 pm EST

Man what a difference. No idea how the team that played Tuesday is the same team that is playing right now.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:06 pm EST

By the way...That new MSG Hockey Show really BLOWS

rangerlou


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:05 pm EST

u know Hospo is peeking in right now like a duck in a Chinatown window (Hop Ke).......He wants to chime in but he won't...so i just wanna say, "Hey Hospo!"

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:05 pm EST

His name was mentioned a few years ago and the nyr passed on him as a ufa.. luckily fishboy landed him....

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:04 pm EST

RF's wife just kicked the dog and then kicked RF

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:03 pm EST

21 black jack

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:03 pm EST

Double dip Grabz

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:03 pm EST

RF - better get some pillows and a blanket...might be couch city for you tonight;)

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:02 pm EST

Whoever had Grabner for at least 20 goals this season..raise your hand :)

DOUBLEN


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:02 pm EST

Gorgeous pass by Hayes and equally fabulous shot by Grabner....

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:02 pm EST

Put him on the PP.

stepunmytoe


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:02 pm EST

20 goals and he's not on pp?

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:02 pm EST

What a find Grabner has turned out to be

rangerlou


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:02 pm EST

Anyone still missing Hagelin?

puckyou


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:01 pm EST

Matt Martin went to the Sid Crosby School of Hockey . That dude is an embarassment.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:01 pm EST

He's a lot better than hagelin

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:00 pm EST

TradeStar: Greg Louganis, too funny

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:00 pm EST

Nice to get even on shortie page

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 10:00 pm EST

GRABBY!!! After getting molested all game, finally gets clear for the G!

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:59 pm EST

Michael Grab my caaaaaaahk ner

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:59 pm EST

Just like that!

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:59 pm EST

Yes tgo grabher

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:58 pm EST

fuckin Greg Louganis

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:58 pm EST

Another Martin swan dive

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:57 pm EST

Back to the pressbox for LIndberg, too!

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:53 pm EST

tdchi....I am watching the hockey Rangers of New York City

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:51 pm EST

People asking for the whereabouts of York18.......From what I hear....he has been promoted from up from fry cook at Five Guys and now is allowed to make burgers

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:50 pm EST

TD: the kid laid an egg & everyone knows it, put him right back out there & let him play through it.. let him get his confidence back.. jmho natch

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:48 pm EST

FWIW AV is still giving CLENDENING plenty of minutes.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:46 pm EST

Bullied? What game are you watching?

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:40 pm EST

Rangers getting bullied all over the ice

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:40 pm EST

Good man atilla the hun-wick

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:35 pm EST

Some bullet points on Staal's status: https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/the-latest-updates-on-marc-staal/213783058

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:24 pm EST

KIS: Agree with you on the physicality and it's importance 100%...

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:18 pm EST

I hate this coach. This team just won't be physical. To win the cup you need to be physicall. I don't care what the league is becoming, this game is a physical game. They won't win shot because they just don't hit. The D is horrible. Clenndenning 5 and Klein suck. Klein could probably be ok if paired with the correct partner and in the right structure. Still he sucks this year.

KIS


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:17 pm EST

TD...yes he was playing well. Better with the puck at times than anyone on the D save perhaps for McD. What he was doing there is beyond me - looking to make a play I guess but totally dismissed the opposition's speed and tenacity. IMO, very unaware there...

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:15 pm EST

Boy did that goal give the Leafs life

tlats


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:15 pm EST

RF - sad thing is I actually thought CLENDENING was playing a pretty good game before that. He helped prevent a goal so I guess he's even now ;)

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:14 pm EST

I mean...5-on-4...one forechecker...two open guys on either side of you...and you try to get cute?!? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Next time someone brings up 'the AV treatment' with this guy...just rewatch that play.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:12 pm EST

TD: LOL...yep, he just gave AV a huge reason to keep playing Girardi when Staal returns.

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:11 pm EST

RF4L- well ya can't really fault AV aid he benches a guy after something like that...that goal was 100 percent needless.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:10 pm EST

Damn! Clendening!!!!

rngrsans


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:08 pm EST

LOLOL...back to the pressbox this dude goes. Forever.

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:02 pm EST

Man, did the Rangers miss ZIBANAJED. Guy gives this team another dimension. Unbelievable we got him AND a second rounder for BRASS.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 9:00 pm EST

Hank looks a lot better tonight.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:55 pm EST

I don't want to see the Rangers sit on the lead here, but I'd like to see them hold Toronto to one goal against

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:53 pm EST

Hayes 2 Miller.... very nice

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:49 pm EST

step - I've liked GILMOUR since his college days at Providence. Thought he played very well in TC...haven't seen him in Hartford, but if his +/- is any indication, he's still adjusting. I'm not as sold on him as I am GRAVES, but I definitely could see him getting into an NHL game either late this season or next. Very mobile defenseman....another guy down there to keep an eye on is Mike PALIOTTA. Was pretty highly touted when he was with the Hawks organization...like Gilmour, he has an incredible senior year in the NCAA and was a significant part of the SAAD deal a couple years back...I don't know what happened...why he fell so far down the depth chart in Columbus...but he's a guy to keep an eye on if the Rangers keep getting injuries on D.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:48 pm EST

http://www.fanragsports.com/news/coyotes-send-struggling-anthony-duclair-ahl/

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:29 pm EST

FWIW, TSN quiz question: Suggest best team fit for Shittenkerk - Bob McKenzie named the Rangers saying it fits the organizational philosophy of moving away from defensive defensemen to guys who have an offensive aspect to their game.

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:17 pm EST

MF; That right side D lineup works for me ! I am just thinking Gilmour has a shot at 7th D next year if things shake out in his favor.

stepunmytoe


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:17 pm EST

Stupid penalty by Kreider...

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:13 pm EST

6 assists and 14 points in 14 games...very impressive.

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:12 pm EST

Buchnevich nice goal

tlats


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:12 pm EST

Dickaletti is insufferable in general but even worse when going over these reviewed goals

RDW


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:12 pm EST

Buch is the real deal....the Rangers need to protect this guy - he keeps scoring like this someone will go headhunting.

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:07 pm EST

Marc Staal- His importance to teh NYRs should be evident to every Wallster the past 2 weeks...

schneidw


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:07 pm EST

Step: if Klein is still here, I could envision us starting next season with Shattenkirk / Klein / Clendenning down the RHS.... (Girardi bought out)

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:02 pm EST

Ridiculously inept defense for the tying goal after Matthews rips around an 85 year old Girardi and the King makes a fabulous save on him.

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 8:01 pm EST

Rangers really kinda suck right now, don't they?

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 7:58 pm EST

OMG, Matthews just made Girardi look like a pylon there. LOL....

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 7:48 pm EST

MF: I know he's a left. They need to shake up the D in a big way next year and I fully expect Shattenkirk on this roster next season. I'm thinking Gilmour as a possible 7th dman.

stepunmytoe


Thu Jan 19 2017 6:44 pm EST

RF...All that goes without saying....Leafs know Rangers are reeling and Martin will do something....Bump Hank or lay someone out with a hit....

PJ


Thu Jan 19 2017 6:42 pm EST

Unfortunately, Gilmore is a LHS ...... http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=146192

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 6:39 pm EST

PJ: I'm more worried about Leafs' speed and skill and the King's current stumble. Recipe for a 3 nothing lead before the 1st period's over. The Rangers need to come out ready to play from the moment the puck's dropped or they're in big trouble.

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 6:32 pm EST

Have a feeling Martin could be a problem tonight...

PJ


Thu Jan 19 2017 5:45 pm EST

Don't sleep on John Gilmore. He's my Longshot next year.

stepunmytoe


Thu Jan 19 2017 5:40 pm EST

Yikes.... $8,500,000 for a backup goalie? Cap nightmare at its worse! Let's hope for a bunch of reasons the King rediscovers his game!!

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 5:38 pm EST

On Graves- my guess is he'll get the pressbox treatment like McI and therefore he belongs in the minors where he can play regularly.

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 4:58 pm EST

Don't come by as often as I used to losing interest in this Franchise since there is no CUP in sight in my remaining lifetime.....so what did happen to York18??

MelvilleFred


Thu Jan 19 2017 4:31 pm EST

Need yorkis back. He'd have some insight

KIS


Thu Jan 19 2017 4:31 pm EST

KIS - That definitely crossed my mind too...You want a doom scenario...the one goalie that did seem to really drop off the cliff was RICHTER. And that was after he started getting concussed.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 4:29 pm EST

RDW - JMHO, but the Rangers are taking their time to develop GRAVES...he's a big kid and quick...and he can hit...hard...and his shot is an absolute laser beam...he's a very good talent and he's one of the guys I'd pick out on the Pack as having an NHL future...I don't think he'd be out of place in the NHL or filling in for STAAL...but if I were to guess, they want him to get consistent top-pairing playing time in the AHL instead of 12-to14 minutes in the NHL...Also, he hasn't exactly owned the AHL yet...he's not a flashy player, so he's not the type of guy you'd pick out in a game...at least, were it not for his size. The guy is huge. McILRATH-size. But he can skate too. I think he'll get in a few games this year, but were I to guess, he'll spend most of this season in the AHL.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 4:29 pm EST

Maybe it's something physical with Hank that we don't know. Something with eye sight. Maybe post concussion syndrome and his balance is off. He doesnt tell the organization because the man just wants to play. Something is wrong

KIS


Thu Jan 19 2017 4:23 pm EST

stevielegs - It's just a hunch...it's really the only thing that makes sense...In my experience, goaltenders like LUNDQVIST don't just drop off the cliff...their reflexes might slow a bit...the might not zip around the crease as quickly...but I really can't think of many goalies who were world class one season and then toast the next. Certainly, I think it's a valid argument to say Hank ain't what he was in his mid-20s...but he was also the world's best goaltender then...and he still makes saves that are otherworldly...so in my mind, there's two culprits: Confidence and the defense. Could be a combo of both...and I find is deeply suspicious that a guy like HELLBERG can come in and look so goddamn good in the third period unless there was a dramatic shift in the defense...I do think Hank is a defacto captain of this team...he's really the face of it...and given that he's the elder statesmen of the locker room, it would make sense that his troops are following his directions...and, as you say, if that's the case...then Hank or AV needs to wake up and make the adjustment...because what they were doing Tuesday can't happen again...and it's already happened four or five times this season already...which makes it all the more awful.

tdchi


Thu Jan 19 2017 3:13 pm EST

If the Leafs score in the first 3 minutes we are toast....If Hank allows a goal or less in the first period we win....He will be tested for sure....Desperate times........

PJ


Thu Jan 19 2017 3:05 pm EST

here's another: (worth a read on this slow day) ""No one defenseman is going to fix this train wreck on the blue line."" http://fulltiltnyr.com/rangers-must-stay-course-season-despite-glaring-issues/

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 3:00 pm EST

RDW: I found this: The defenseman with the highest upside in Hartford is Ryan Graves, the club’s fourth round selection in the 2013 draft. Graves has good size at 6-feet-4-inches, 220 pounds, plays a strong defensive game, and is the Wolf Pack’s second-leading scorer so far this year with 20 points (5-15-20). Even with an AHL All Star Game appearance under his belt a year ago, the 21 year-old Graves is not the answer yet either should Staal be sidelined for an extended period, due to his inexperience and that he’d play a third-pair role in New York, leaving the Rangers still wanting in that second pair.... http://thehockeywriters.com/not-all-rangers-injuries-created-equal/

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 2:13 pm EST

When Lundquist wins the Conn Smyth Trophy in June all this worry will be a distant memory. :)

Steve443c10


Thu Jan 19 2017 1:49 pm EST

RF: I'll take you up on that wager, and counter with, "the Rangers will be tied or ahead after the 1st period" ... What are the current Vegas Odds that you'll be watching the game is a tougher bet to figure out. ;-)

mf


Thu Jan 19 2017 1:17 pm EST

Anyone have a report on how Graves has been playing in Hartford? Must not be anywhere near ready if he isn't getting a look considering the play of our D recently

RDW


Thu Jan 19 2017 12:37 pm EST

It'll be 3 zip before the game is a 3rd over tonight if the King is a Queen and the team's defense is non-existent again tonight.

RF4L


Thu Jan 19 2017 11:10 am EST

Stevie: I've seen very little if anything in terms of defensive philosophy. The system works. It's being deployed by many teams in the NHL. The New York Rangers are just very loose in their own end. Missing assignments, out of sync, attention to detail. Perhaps the much maligned Staal is more important to the New York Rangers defense then some want to admit? That doesn't excuse away the rest of the real steamers they've laid lately.

E


Thu Jan 19 2017 6:03 am EST

If rannta is not facing the same shot bs hank is facing , than the d is playing differently for the two of them. And if hank is pushing how he wants them to play in front of him , then he needs to man up and let them play the same for both of them. Ass vipe and buekabust need to figure it out too. But coach sitting bull needs to unfold his arms or get his hands out of his pockets and get more involved with his coaches. Running away during a timeout instead of at least listening during their huddle is not leadership. And once in a blue moon he needs to call a timeout for a defensive huddle run by buek when an onslaught is happening. Their are plenty of tv timeouts that should be used with a purpose besides a rest. The coaching staff is not innocent in this . Playing Pontius Pilate is not acceptable. Give us barrabas is not the right answer. Jesus makes the save and Esposito gets the rebound. Time for some soul searching and taking responsibility. Otherwise start Hell-burger.

stevielegs


Thu Jan 19 2017 5:39 am EST

The d system has changed and so far its worse than the man on man system . But if rannta is surviving it and hank is not, what does that say? Hank is in a slump with a confidence crisis. Maybe his reflexes have slowed down and maybe he should get his eyes checked. But first he needs some sessions with a sports shrink , and allaire needs to step up.

stevielegs


Wed Jan 18 2017 10:38 pm EST

Sorry Wild but if Raanta doesn't get hurt we are on a two game winning streak...Hell, even Nosen and Michelletti are stunned at how bad Hank is and they make more excuses for the Rangers than you do....D not good but our highly compensated goalie is a mess right now....

PJ


Wed Jan 18 2017 9:56 pm EST

PJ: clearly you are unable to look at a goal and see if it's a bad play by the d , great play by the scoring team or a bad goalie. If you think Hank was at fault for more than 2 of those goals you clearly have no clue what your talking about. I'm very sorry that the game last night in reality doesn't fit the narrative you would like it to. As I said. Hank is not playing well. The goals last night were for the most part ones that even at his best he would not stop, or any goalie. Stop trying to make it all or nothing. Both things, his playing poor, and unstoppable goals can exist st the same time.

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 9:51 pm EST

This is via twitter. "Henrik Lundqvist faces the closest avg shot distance in NHL (ES, min 1000 minutes). Also has faced 10th most shots on rush, 7th most HDSA." This goes to show how bad the D has been in front of him, his numbers are down but there is more behind it than just Hank struggling, what goalie would look good facing what he has faced?

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 9:48 pm EST

This team has players with some edge....I mean Kreider punched a guy with a helmet....that's just mean lol.

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 8:56 pm EST

Few observations from last night so _arc can give his F5 key a rest for the rest of the night: As many said already, the defense was ABSOLUTELY PUTRID...SKJEI in specific, had the worst game I've ever seen him play. That was the kind of game that, had it not been for the preceding 40, would land a player back in the AHL. Just awful. HOLDEN wasn't much better...and GIRARDI...well...no need to beat a dead horse...Oddly enough, CLENDENING seemed to be the only one of the six that was synced with the forwards...But I won't put that whole loss on them, but let's say at least four of the seven goals were ones where they literally left LUNDQVIST out to dry...and that ANY goal in the NHL would have struggled to stop. This is not to say he was any great shakes...he wasn't...but it was a bad game from the blueline back. But there was plenty of blame to purse out...The forwards seemed far more concerned with pushing the attack then they did getting back into position. Basically, Hank was rattled from the first goal on and nobody in front of him thought to give him any extra support...once he got chased from the game and was sitting on the bench crawling deep into the back of his skin, suddenly his team grew a conscience...And they made HELLBERG, who truly is an average tender at best, look like an all-star. I didn't get a chance to gauge the web, but given the sarcastic chants at the Garden, I could almost guarantee there's a fan out there arguing he and RAANTA would be a better tandem...Also don't really get this chorus of 'the Rangers have no fight' after they spent the whole game abusing EAKIN...So Jamie BENN glared at the bench and chirped for two periods. They almost made him and his team look like a bunch of scrubs when they had to rely on Kari LEHTONEN of all players to save their asses and preserve the win. Jamie Benn should put a little more effort into back-checking instead of glaring. His team did just about everything in their power to lose that game after going up 7-3...Were it not for four beautiful last-second saves by Lehtonen, the narrative would have been what a goat Benn is...Another thing I noticed...and I've noticed many games and seasons before, the Rangers play a MUCH different game in front of LUNDQVIST. Just polar opposite of how they play in front of everyone else...TALBOT, SKAPSKI, RAANTA and now HELLBERG...And I wonder whether that's because that's what Lundqvist wants...that he's ASKED them to adjust their play when he's in net...I was thinking about how Hank is...and it seems to me the guy almost always wants to see the shot...and when guys break away, it's like they basically abandon the shooter...they basically let Hank go for the save instead of preventing the shot...these other goalies go between the pipes, suddenly it's stop the guy from shooting...and I wonder whether Hank's reflexes ARE in fact dulling a bit...and that maybe it's time they adjust their game in front of him to be the same as the ones in front of the backup.

tdchi


Wed Jan 18 2017 6:39 pm EST

worth a quick look-see IMO: .. https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/vigneault-on-lundqvist-fixing-things-buchnevich-and-more/213804198

mf


Wed Jan 18 2017 5:52 pm EST

Lindberg has been playing well...Not scoring but plays a good two way game...Any word on Staal???

PJ


Wed Jan 18 2017 5:50 pm EST

New York Rangers ‏@NYRangers 4h4 hours ago AV says @KevinPHayes12 will play in Toronto. Fast (upper body) not expected to be back until after All Star break. Lindberg gets back in.

stevielegs


Wed Jan 18 2017 5:34 pm EST

Wild....Maybe we can just score 8 goals for the $8.5M man and he would be ok....Only you could see top end anything from his performance last night....

PJ


Wed Jan 18 2017 5:24 pm EST

Wildcard, I agree Hank needs the team in front of him to play defense. Still he does seem to drop pucks in his glove and gives up some killer rebounds. Hopefully the Rangers can play better defense, remove the odd man rushes, back-check and clear the crease.

Jerry_Garcia


Wed Jan 18 2017 5:14 pm EST

PJ: He made a lot of top end saves, and a dozen or more really good ones. If you didnt see them its because you just didnt want to.....face it...Hank can still make amazing saves, but NO goalie, not a single one would have made saves on those goals last night...MAYBE a depredation dive across could have gotten to one of those...but most goalies don't make more than one of those a game...he would have had to make 4 or 5 highlight real saves that would have been among the best of the year. There is NOTHING he could have done about the first 2 goals...The 3rd yes he probably should have had, but the 4th...what the hell do you think a goalie is going to do...a guy standing all alone on the far post...pulling him then would have just destroyed his confidence even more...basically saying "Hey Hank, its not your fault, but we are pulling you anyway" The D was non existent on 3 of the 4 and the 3rd goal was due to bad D even if he should have played that one better. But go ahead...pretend that another goalie would have made those saves...live in a fantasy world in order to be able to continue a false narrative. And again, no-one is saying Hank is not struggling...but you need to be able to separate the goalies struggling causing goals from he goals that are scored even if he is not struggling.

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 5:06 pm EST

Jerry_Garcia: Its not just his confidence in himself...I have watched a lot of replays, and he is playing (even on saves) like he doesn't trust the D to do anything well at all. If the D was playing just a little bit better we might see Hank start getting his game back a bit. As some have said, after years of Hank saving this team, its time they return the favor here.

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 5:04 pm EST

Hank did not make a dozen top end saves last night...You watched a different game....He was bad from the beginning....Should have been pulled after the fourth goal and would have if not for Hellberg being the backup....

PJ


Wed Jan 18 2017 5:02 pm EST

PJ: I said he hasn't been good. He is struggling. But he can both be struggling and have had no chance on most of the goals. Those things can exist at the same time. Hank also made some saves last night that Hellberg would have crapped himself seeing and let in. He mad 4 save....4.....lets not overflow it because a couple of them were good saves.....Hank made a dozen top end saves last night. You can't go and discount them but prop up another guy because he didnt let a goal in on 4 shots when the team he was against was basically on its heals the entire period.

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 4:59 pm EST

Hank Observations: Been playing poorly for about a month. He make the best saves in the world on hard shots, but gets eaten up on easy shots that are just put on net from the blue line. Like some goaltenders I played against, they play a great game until the first goal gets by them, then it's all in the head! His confidence is shot right now. His handling of the puck is no good and teams read it and position themselves on the 1/2 wall for the pass. As Hank is a Hero to the Rangers and us fans, the question is how many years can he stand on his head!

Jerry_Garcia


Wed Jan 18 2017 4:51 pm EST

Wild....Hellberg made a couple of real good saves when called upon....Hank looked bad on the saves he did make....Only you would try to make excuses for someone that the entire hockey world can see is struggling big time....Oh and please check his compensation when comparing him to other goalies...We just may have the D we need in place if we didn't empty the vault for Hank(it' not my fault) Lundquist........

PJ


Wed Jan 18 2017 4:46 pm EST

PJ: Leave it to a Rangers fan to rip Hank for not making 4 or 5 saves that would make "save of the year" nominations in a single game, but praise another goalie for making 4 saves and somehow using the idea that he is elite in his game play......

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 4:44 pm EST

Something I expected to happen, and said as much, when AV does something that fans scream for and rip on him for there is no recognition. Fans have been screaming for Giradi to get less ice time. Well last night he was 5th in ice time....5th....only Clendenning has less ice (likely die to the lack of PP opportunities in the game) He is also 4th for the season for overall per game ice time (nearly a minute behind 3rd amount), 4th at even strength (about a minute less than the 3rd most) and 2nd on the PK with only a few more seconds than 3rd Staal. Giradi quite literally just barely hanging onto a top 4 spot. Skjei has been increasing his ice time slowly, so in reality by the end of the season if that continues he may have more average ice time per game than Giradi...or at least about the same. No one wants to acknowledge that AV has done what so many called for, he has cut Giradis ice time back...he went from just over 20 min last year to under 19 this...he was at 22 minutes 2 years back.....

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 4:43 pm EST

Enough of the excuses for Hank....He is paid to come up with big saves...He looked horrible on the 2 on 1's.....They happen and an elite goaltender(see Hellberg in the third period) needs to make some saves for his team....D wasn't good but Hank was a disgrace....

PJ


Wed Jan 18 2017 4:31 pm EST

andrei I dont info what 4 goals you think Hank should have had. Even the 2 on 1 goal, if you watch Hank, he played it like a 2 on 0 and was back further in the net that usual...why? I think its because he doesn't trust his D. Same thing for the quick over reaction to the pass that he though was going behind the net to the far side, Goalies don't normally move before they look, and it leaves them vulnerable for a quick far side wrap in...he went that looked....that to me again is a lack of trust in his D. The 3rd he should have had, even if you cunt the 2 on 1 goal thats just two goals he should have had, the rest? The wrap around was a good smart play by Sharp and the Rangers defenders just left him alone. The rest of the goals, what do you want hank to do? Those go in 99% of the time on every goalie in the world. Lets be real here, while he hasn't been as good sometimes, you can hardly fault him for those goals last night...he was hung out to dry. Please tell me what 4 goals you think he should have had...

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 4:23 pm EST

mf: The best part about Nash/Zbad/Buch coming back and being on the same line and seemingly starting to click quickly is that the Kreider/Stepan/Zucc line gets to stay intact and that was a very good line while the other 3 were out. That hopefully will create two lines that can be considered number 1 lines. That leaves "the rest" to fill out the bottom two lines, and that leaves some really good players for the bottom 6. If those 3 had come back and not played well together and forced AV to mess up the top line, it could have set the team back offensively.

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 2:58 pm EST

Interesting part about last three games is that if we had a different goaltender, we would be talking about being a hot team going on 8 straight. You can all blame AV, complain about a soft style, how much a defense suck, how team lacking leadership, etc. As long as Hank continue playing like last night, we won't win many games. Last night, we should have blown Stars 6:2. There were 4 goals, that Hank should have had. Same applies to the Leafs and Mont games.. Hopefully, he will figure it out soon..

andrei


Wed Jan 18 2017 2:49 pm EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/why-blowing-it-up-is-the-only-way-forward-for-the-avalanche

mf


Wed Jan 18 2017 2:35 pm EST

just to tag along, I recall we were out shooting them something like 20 - 2 at one point in the 3rd. RE: Buch: this kid has a keen sense of where his line mates will be and put the puck there, I'll keep looking for that in his play.. Nash: for him to come out and sacrifice his body to the extent that he did may indicate that he is starting to reach a degree of confidence in today's NHL. (all a guess on my part) Z'bad, man did we miss him. Ironic that the 3 guys out (Nash / Z'bad / Buch) constitute a line "which was intact." With all 3 back we should have a better understanding of just how much was missing... I'm still a defense first kind a guy..... all jmo's naturally....

mf


Wed Jan 18 2017 2:18 pm EST

That was read and react. And just looked it up. The New York Rangers outshot The Stars 25-4 in the third. Yikes!

E


Wed Jan 18 2017 2:15 pm EST

47: I think Buch is the real pain on that line. He has a knack for finding open space. Very sneaky. I think it was Lindell who had him marked and covered during a scrum on the far side. As the puck got kicked up the dasher he faked that he was gonna cut across and shield the goalie. He took 2-strides and decided not to. But instead of rotating out to open space he turned into his defender and bumped him before drifting backwards into open space. He was all alone far side for a tap in. Niemi would never have gotten across in time. Just a savvy play. So many guys are so dead and react in the NHL today. Being able to disappear before a play emerges is an art that few players have. If you have linemates with a good sense of when you're going to break away from the board work and heavy lifting? That's a dangerous player. I won't make the comparison because of nation but because of style. That play oozed the kind of Tarasenko type play. How many times does Tarasenko seem to find himself all alone on the farside of a goalie? It's good stuff. And I wanted to point out something while we grown and moan last nights rather poor showing. The New York Rangers forwards tattooed Dallas that showed a complete inability to box them up. The New York Rangers (once they realized there was a game going on) were blowing then the Stars defense with ease. I know the Stars defense sucks but I look for positives also and I saw a New York Rangers forward group that showed glimpses of early this season where line after line started rushing them. I'm not sure the Stars had a single quality second effort shot in the third. They were trying to figure out how to get the puck back.

E


Wed Jan 18 2017 1:44 pm EST

Ranger47..........yes, there are certainly a lot of "negatives" about last night's game for sure , but like you , I saw some positives and am I going crazy or was that a hell of an exciting game to watch ?............nice to see Hellberg is a good enough goalie to sub in ( he looked good to me last weekend)

Newfie_Ranger


Wed Jan 18 2017 1:38 pm EST

Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but I thought the -Buch-Z-Nash looked really good together. We can all remember earlier in the year when they were our best line. Adding them to the K-Step-Z and Miller-Hayes-Grabner combos really gives us some good, balanced top 3 lines. Scoring should not be a problem moving ahead barring injury.

Ranger47


Wed Jan 18 2017 1:35 pm EST

I agree with those who have said that it was clear that Henrik was off his game right from the start. By the 4th goal I was hoping they would pull him. I'm curious what AV would have done differently had Raanta been the backup. BTW, Hellberg looked good despite the emergency callup....good for him!

Ranger47


Wed Jan 18 2017 1:30 pm EST

Wild+td= AV Squad

_Arc


Wed Jan 18 2017 1:22 pm EST

The team seemed to play with a lot more swagger when McIlrath was in the line-up.. Perhaps for them he served as a security blanket..... Couldn't the coach just tweak his marching orders to the players before considering trades? Yesterday was just plain ugly. I'll give our boys some credit for fighting back into the game.. On a side note, IMO it was good to get a look at Hellberg. The kid has a quick glove hand and at 6'6" he fills plenty of net. I thought he played fine off the bench..

mf


Wed Jan 18 2017 12:10 pm EST

Kreider fined $5,000 for hitting Cody Eakin with his helmet at 1:52 of the second period.

RF73


Wed Jan 18 2017 11:43 am EST

I think what's really missing isn't fighting. I actually have fallen on the Wild side of that argument for a while already. It's grit, grind, and nasty. The New York Rangers desperately needed it last night. I am the first to question that in terms of overall value during the playoffs but over 82? The New York Rangers weren't intimidated last night. That would be the wrong term. They were just unwilling or unable to play a game that isn't "natural" to them. Benn was chirping relentlessly after every shift. Taunting them on the way to the bench. Make no mistake, this is the Stars type of game. But also keep in mind that the Stars see plenty of LA, SJ, STL, ANA etc... teams that play an irritating style of game. But it was pointed out that Pittsburgh does not fight. Very true. But They have Olesky, Hornqvist and a few other clowns who love to get under your skin. Not to mention their intrepid leader who while has toned it down over the past few years wouldn't miss a chance to agitate someone. And while people are talking Mcilrath and Glass or whatever. These guys have no effect on the likes of Pittsburgh. They aren't going to fight. They just won't. But they'll do everything to get you off your game. The New York Rangers closest thing to it is MZA. And seriously? MZA? Chris Krieder can be a dick but he's inconsistent. He prefers to be a hockey player first. More like the anthesis of Corey Perry who likes to be a hockey player second. Both have the ability, but one just really enjoys getting you annoyed. What I've learned with JT is that he is just mean. Even against Benn last night he put a hard hit on him. It was clean, but he was waiting for the chance. The New York Rangers need character. But they need guys who can play. Guys like Roussel, Eakins, Benn are out there every other shift. And who was out there playing banging and spirited hockey? Nash... what does that say? There should be little problem for the New York Rangers on any other season (because of trade stagnation) to get out there and find themselves a couple of guys who can play who also stir things up a little. I'm not asking for fighters. I'm asking for guys who cause emotion. Sometimes you just gotta have it.

E


Wed Jan 18 2017 11:43 am EST

Total lack of defense, guts, and balls on the Rangers...Continue to be near unwatchable...

Hospo


Wed Jan 18 2017 11:32 am EST

Has Girardi been teaching Skjei what to do on a 2 on 1?....Just lay down and do snow angels on the ice....Takes you out of the play completely when the saucer pass goes over you....

PJ


Wed Jan 18 2017 10:46 am EST

I missed everything but the last 10 minutes of the third. But then I watched the videos on each of the Stars goals. Yes, Hank is off his game, but anyone who thinks that he is the primary problem is not paying attention. The defense on every one of the goals was horrendous. A complete flashback to the putrid defense of last year's team. And now we don't have Dan Boyle to obsess over. I'm very confident that Hank is going to turn it around and do his part. I'm way more concerned about the quick deterioration of the defense. It's fixable given the way they played in the first 1/3 of the season, but it's gone take some massive discipline. The only good thing to come out of this spell is that it ensures the end-of-season buyout of Girardi.

VtRanger


Wed Jan 18 2017 10:33 am EST

I don't believe Hank is disliked by his teammates....We have played like crap in front of him plenty of times over the years....He was able to bail us out on most nights....Now our mistakes end up in our net along with a soft goal here and there....Not sure where this is headed but with the parity in the Eastern Conference a significant slump can take you out of the playoff picture in a hurry....

PJ


Wed Jan 18 2017 10:05 am EST

As I posted some time ago, Lundquest has been inconsistent since at least last year, what I now suspect is that he is not really liked by his teammates. He is not "one of the guys" and I think that shows. When he was playing an elite game it did not matter. The game has changed and teams have adapted and now that the dust has settled we appear to be mildly competitive. Of course this is all conjecture and it just may be a jaundiced view from a disgruntled fan.

gene_carr


Wed Jan 18 2017 10:02 am EST

I thought Kreider's play and fight actually did pick up the Rangers in the third....Hellberg actually did make some key saves when we broke down in the third....I knew Hank was in trouble after the first shot on goal....A long shot that he was not sure he had....On D Skjei is becoming more and more a liability back there....Throw in the play of Girardi and Klein and what a mess....

PJ


Wed Jan 18 2017 8:14 am EST

I dont agree with you Wild, I do think that Av will tolerate retaliation shots here and there, when he says so. EG: whenver he put Glass on the ice - which wasnt often. Dylan was benched a couple of times for fighting...we agree to disagree. ALL, wth? We need an entire defense revamp. Ill keep Hudson, and Klein.

WIOSA


Wed Jan 18 2017 8:02 am EST

I wish AV coyld doctatong a shutout next game for the King!!

RF4L


Wed Jan 18 2017 7:35 am EST

Dictating for crying out loud....I feel a little hospish right now...

RF4L


Wed Jan 18 2017 7:34 am EST

Lol dictatong...not sure wtf doctatong is...lol

RF4L


Wed Jan 18 2017 7:33 am EST

Wild...are the self appointed wall cop now, doctatong what we can and cannot express our opinions on? Lolol...

RF4L


Wed Jan 18 2017 7:20 am EST

Lololololiolol

RF4L


Wed Jan 18 2017 6:48 am EST

Can we dispense with the complete BS that AV will not allow guys to fight? Kreider didn't miss a shift after he fought a guy that did something a month ago....yeah yeah yeah I'm sure you all will have 100 excuses for why, but FACT remains that no one has missed shifts due to a fight, no one has been say because of a fight. This is all made up BS by fans who want to see the team respond more than win. If you look at the list of fighting majors by team, you will see that accept for a couple outliers, the teams with less fight are higher in the standings. The Ducks being the biggest exception. 8 of the top ten teams fighting major wise are currently on the playoff bubble or outside the playoffs right now. Conversely 7 of the ten fewest in fighting majors are in the playoffs as of right now. The point is to win games and get in the post season. Stop pretending that it's "back in the day" when fighting was a bigger thing. It's not anymore....the Rangers are not even the lowest in fighting majors, that's the Hawks and Canes tied at 4. The Caps have 5, Rangers 6 and Pens 7. But it's too bad the Rangers don't fight more...they might be good and win more like the teams that fight a lot, like the AVS, and Red Wings....oh wait.

Wildcard


Wed Jan 18 2017 6:44 am EST

So I wonder what Gorton thibks when he sees his team being run and chirped with zero response. Does he smile and nod and mutter contentedly 'that's it boys - ignore that crap and play whistle to whistle.'? Or does he grind his teeth and feel his blood pressure climb like most of us? I sure hope it's the latter because this philosophy truly sucks IMO.

RF4L


Wed Jan 18 2017 6:34 am EST

Couple of observations. Hank has lost any and all confidence at the moment, but can get it back. The Rangers team defense was horrendous. Zucc lazy backcheck on the 3rd goal, Pirri on another. Girardi, Holden, all of the D basically left him out to dry also. The wrap around showed how lost Hank is- when you start to do things out of character- no longer instinctive. I have had it with Girardi. Can he ever get a friggin shot thru. He blocks shots (not as much anymore), but his shot gets blocked more than anyone in the league- and if he gets it thru- its 10 feet wide and a 2-on-1 back at us.Vesey is very disappointing at moment- zero passion, doesn't check or do much of anything out there. Pirri is useless unless he scores- and he rarely does. In the last minute in the triangle with MCD, he never looked ready to receive the one timer- he is the right side option with Mika on left and MCD at the top of the triangle. As for Benn and company chirping and cheap shotting- this team better get some balls and fast.

puckyou


Wed Jan 18 2017 5:58 am EST

So if the offense came back and made it 7-7?8-7? Then what? The greatest comeback twice in 1 game. The problem was the d game and hank . The d game is all 5 guys on the ice. That's what needs to be addressed .

stevielegs


Wed Jan 18 2017 3:40 am EST

Looks like *somebody* just flunked his audition for the Stars netminder job!

LeoS


Wed Jan 18 2017 2:38 am EST

"You're giving up 2-on-1s and breakaways, one, two, three chances right in front in a row; he's a tremendous goalie and it's going to be tough to stop those consistently," Rangers captain Ryan McDonagh said. "We've put him in a bad spot, no question about it, and that's not fair." .......... Hehe I got to agree with McD. That was maybe the worst D I've ever seen in NY. Those D pairings are UGLY. Is Beuke up to the task? Who puts Girardi and Clenndenning on the same pairing?

Ola


Tue Jan 17 2017 11:48 pm EST

.538

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 11:43 pm EST

Yeah, call up Tanner Glass. Maybe lure John Scott and Colton Orr out of retirement. Face-wash a few guys in a post-whistle scrum. That'll show 'em! The old "tough to play against" riff. Of course some D-zone coverage and a few saves from our $163,461 (true figure) per-week goalie might be better.

Nick


Tue Jan 17 2017 11:29 pm EST

Trade- BECAUSE HIS NAME IS F'n 'Elaine'. I'll pay for any guy who would wear a short pink dress (with purse in hand) to sit behind the home bench and call themselves 'the AV squad'

_Arc


Tue Jan 17 2017 11:23 pm EST

Just out of curiosity......why does AV have his teams turn the other cheek and get ass kicked>? I can't imagine being a player who doesn't have that insane desire to be there for my teammate ...no matter what

TradeStar28


Tue Jan 17 2017 11:06 pm EST

Fire Allaire!

Bob


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:24 pm EST

rngrsans: I concur completely. McDonagh was an animal during the Tortorella regime.... Not anymore

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:19 pm EST

Every team is a reflection of their leader.... The rangers response to other teams is a reflection of the way AV wants them to play. If they don't play within his style, they don't play. Simple as that. So I repeat... AV needs to be fired

rngrsans


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:15 pm EST

Agreed it is hard to like this team....Very little push back.....Make me sick....

PJ


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:15 pm EST

Hank says he needs a more structured game?....Hellberg looked ok.......

PJ


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:13 pm EST

Runs cheapshots and chirping with the Rangers demurely taking it and getting beaten on the scoreboard. Makes one proud to be a fan eh? WTF...can someone please explain this to me? I don't get it....

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:05 pm EST

Just for Hank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TyynO6O0kc

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:05 pm EST

Fishtanks interviewing gallant

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:04 pm EST

It's games like this that the coach drives me nuts. Leaves Henrik in to suck his way to 7 against in 2 periods when it was clear at 4-1 and 5-3 that he just did not have it. Stars taking runs, cheap shots and chirping at the Rangers with no response. A-hole Roussel chirping the crowd after the horn. I do wish the players were allowed to play with some snarl. And Henrik looks lost. These guys are still on the bye week, or at least Henrik is.

Bob


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:01 pm EST

Tis clear to me Lundqvist is lost. When will he find his way?

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:00 pm EST

I assume Hank gets start vs, Leafs.....He just may shite his pants if they score an early one.....

PJ


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:57 pm EST

Next up - Toronto....oh boy!!

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:56 pm EST

at 7-3 I figured ok lets cut the boys some slack. Maybe Nash, Buch, Z'bad need to get the rust off but all 3 have shown they are at or near full game shape.... ""rngrsans" may have said it best, "why doesn't this team come prepared from the start of the game?" AFAIC, that's on the coach....

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:55 pm EST

Coach may be good or ok during the season but he is not a championship coach nor can he motivate players. They have succeeded in spite of him He lost the room and I think most Important... he lost his goalie Maybe not unlike Crosby quitting last season????

rngrsans


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:53 pm EST

The Stars play defense like the Rangers...

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:53 pm EST

Vesey on the fourth line....Not an AV favorite....

PJ


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:51 pm EST

Hey- when does Vesey come back-? Seems he's been missing as long as Mika

puckyou


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:51 pm EST

Coach needed to have the balls to pull Lunquist midway through the 2nd.

chet94


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:51 pm EST

What excuses will be made for Hank in the postgame?....He needs a shrink.....

PJ


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:51 pm EST

12 minutes of 7-6! Can't score #7

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:50 pm EST

I said AV would be out by Christmas....He may last the season but we will most likely exit the playoffs early or even miss them....Then what?

PJ


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:47 pm EST

Great coaching by ass vipe on both timeouts ... he says nothing and runs away from the huddle... a leader of ?

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:47 pm EST

I still say we need a new coach. Why is it we can play desperate in the 3rd period but are never ready for the game anymore

rngrsans


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:47 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:47 pm EST

A loss to that mess of a team...

PJ


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:46 pm EST

Boy do they love to torture us die hard fans

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:44 pm EST

What a shame....Bottom line another loss and Hank in a tailspin....

PJ


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:44 pm EST

Nash looks hurt again

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:38 pm EST

3 minutes

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:33 pm EST

this kid takes up plenty of net

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:33 pm EST

Lundqvist who? Hellberg, Hellberg, Hellberg,

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:29 pm EST

Hit the net dammit.....

PJ


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:26 pm EST

How many sticks will Benn break if they end up blowing this game?

ColoradoMark


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:23 pm EST

Feels like WWF Is back at the Garden.

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:23 pm EST

Rangers 8-7?

rngrsans


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:23 pm EST

Still not exciting

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:21 pm EST

The new NHL, kind of like College La Crosse, 13 goals geezus

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:21 pm EST

Who's keeping score? Wafj

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:20 pm EST

Zbad gets his 2nd

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:20 pm EST

SLegs, cut that shit out! :->)

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:19 pm EST

Holy shit it's 7-6

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:19 pm EST

7 - 6

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:19 pm EST

7-6

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:18 pm EST

Wtf Calvin Klein SHOOT THE PUCK

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:18 pm EST

uummm, could this be our reenactment of the Caps / Penguins game ??? Rangers in OT?

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:18 pm EST

When you are being intimidated by Jamie Benn, you have a serious problem.

Bob


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:17 pm EST

Hold on folks it's 7-5

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:17 pm EST

Stepan hat trick ?

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:15 pm EST

and Girardi hits the net.... woohoo

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:15 pm EST

Tlats and no nyr will do anything to him . Holden ran away.... sad ...this is not all on hank . This team keeps Disa-pirring....

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:15 pm EST

what a bullshit call that was... rangers should have the man advantage

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:12 pm EST

Nice pass Stepan, a grand slam & we take the lead.....

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:09 pm EST

Jamie Benn verbally and physically abusing the Rangers

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:07 pm EST

Why pull hank? Bag skate tomorrow.

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:06 pm EST

Stepan injured ?

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:06 pm EST

Calling Tanner Glass ...Calling Tanner Glass. ..Pick up the red phone.

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:04 pm EST

Duguay calling for glass or somebody to stand up. Captain tales a two hander from benn and he nor his teammates do anything. ... no balls

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:03 pm EST

A field goal and a safety & we're back in it......

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:02 pm EST

How's the game going?

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:01 pm EST

Lololol

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:55 pm EST

CNN NEWS FLASH. ...RANGERS SURRENDER

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:51 pm EST

Man I thought that new MSG Hockey Show really BLOWS. This is worse. ...LMAO! !!

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:49 pm EST

Like them or not, it's embarrassing how this team plays for it's fans. This is the second year in a row that they bomb at home. There are arenas that are 1/3rd full and their teams play better for them.

WIOSA


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:47 pm EST

I rather watch the MSG hockey show than this !

stepunmytoe


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:46 pm EST

What a joke this is

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:46 pm EST

Benn is a leader...Our coaching staff sucks

rngrsans


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:46 pm EST

Captain mcdoodie douche wtfu

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:45 pm EST

Bawwwwwaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh7-3 massacre. And its only the second period.

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:45 pm EST

Ass vipe save your timeout for tomorrow

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:44 pm EST

Leave stanky in , he needs the playing time

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:43 pm EST

News flash. ....Ranger SURRENDER

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:42 pm EST

Paging Jeff buekeboom DEFENSE

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:41 pm EST

If Gorton doesn't make a trade soon then he needs to have his head checked....make a trade now and NOT at the deadline...even a small one to help our D

rngrsans


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:40 pm EST

Adam fucking Cracknell rips one past the king

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:40 pm EST

This is unxxxxx believable The team is so out of sync but Hank is done

rngrsans


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:39 pm EST

Pull the Queen. ..

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:37 pm EST

It's embarrassing how this team is being outplayed out hit and outclassed

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:36 pm EST

Wow is Lundquist fu&$ing bad...what the hell is wrong w/ this guy? Can Gorton work his magic and pry Shestyorkin out of Russia early? Is he officially done? Holy crap.....Raanta-Shestyorkin in '17/18...the Bronx cheer is well deserved

NCRanger


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:33 pm EST

Fans really letting Hank know he absolutely sucks lately

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:32 pm EST

Buch a goal and an assist...

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:32 pm EST

I'm speechless on that last Dallas goal.

DOUBLEN


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:29 pm EST

RF4L; Then Sather should have given him a 6 year contract instead of having dead cap space for 2 years. Let's say he did retire with 2 years left then the Rangers would have cap hits of $1.5 an $3 million (cap hit minus the actually salary)

DOUBLEN


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:29 pm EST

What a sequence!

rngrsans


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:26 pm EST

This team has a lot of talent but they are out of sync (maybe due to everyone returning from injuries) but I also maintain there are no leaders...Our captain is not a leader nor is our coach. No one will take the team and tell them to get their shit together

rngrsans


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:24 pm EST

Just when I thought they were out they pull me back in

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:24 pm EST

What's AV doing?

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:20 pm EST

4 goals on 13 shots, including 4 shots in a row in the net over 11 minutes. Egad!

Bob


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:18 pm EST

Pirri stood there looking providing zero puck support to an indecisive Skjei. Just ugly out of sync hockey

E


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:16 pm EST

Maybe the Stars score 7 or 8 tonight and AV leaves Hank in and he has a Patrick Roy like reaction and ask to be traded

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:14 pm EST

That one was on Skjei

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:10 pm EST

NN....I've said a few times that I think all along the King would retire a year or maybe 2 early and made a gentleman's agreement with Sather about that as part of the negotiations. Or feign some sort of injury. But half way thru the contract? Cap devastation if this it (and for the record I cannot believe it is as worrisome as this stretch is).

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:10 pm EST

Kreider at least trying to spark his team

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:03 pm EST

Too bad their are no more amnesty buy outs; I don't see how they get out of Hank's contract unless he has some devasting injury and is put on LTIR for the remaining 4 years of his contract.

DOUBLEN


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:03 pm EST

Hanks body language is atrocious. This coach better ge his fucking shit together. Or he shoud be hanging out with Capuano

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:59 pm EST

This team does not have a leader.No one seems accountable.And Hank needs to be Either traded or become a back up.

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:58 pm EST

Wow RF4L. I Tweeted Kevin Weekes and asked him to come back and help bail out the Rangers. If that new mask is the one with Richter and Giacomin on it (I am not watching the game), Richter and Giacomin probably turned the game off already. I think their window has closed and there will have to be another rebuild before they challenge for the cup.

Bob


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:54 pm EST

4 years after this Bob. Ain't Sather the best?

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:53 pm EST

Why did Henrik get new pads with arrows pointing to the 5 hole?

Bob


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:53 pm EST

$8.5 Million for how much longer RF4L?

Bob


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:51 pm EST

Maybe leave the Queen in....all the experts are saying he needs playing time to rediscover his game...

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:50 pm EST

Hank has definitely lost a step or two but he has got to be better then this

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:46 pm EST

McDouche over commits, Zucc don't back check, Girardi stands still, and Hank sucked. That sums up the Stars 3rd goal. Team effort of SUCK.

stepunmytoe


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:46 pm EST

Remember how it was shoot high on Lundqvist on his glove hand, now it's shoot at his 5-hole as they all go in.

DOUBLEN


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:43 pm EST

last year I blamed the defense on Ulf... This season should we blame the defense on BeuK? I think not. AV, you suck...

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:43 pm EST

lets see what Hellberg can do

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:43 pm EST

Pull Lundqvist. Now.

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:42 pm EST

I dont think I can watch this...it's so sad

WIOSA


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:41 pm EST

hooboy.

WIOSA


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:39 pm EST

Girardi has been instructing the other Rangers defensemen on the art of the useless snow angel.

Bob


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:36 pm EST

TD...all done to manage the cap. Yes you can go back and pick away at them as you are doing but in the end that wheeling and dealing has resulted in 3 cups in 6 years. In that time Gorther has managed a single cup final. If your preference is that vs what the Hawks have accomplished (comparing all not individual pieces to support a specific argument) that is of course your choice. To me it's a no brainer. It's akin to the complaints about Smith trading away Amonte and Weight that ended up in a cup win for NY. Just skewed to me....to each his/her own!!

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:33 pm EST

Way to kill a good start 2 goals in 12 seconds

tlats


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:28 pm EST

Yeah Stepan

WIOSA


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:07 pm EST

Hello Wallsters ....... Let's Go Rangers! !!!!!!!!

rangerlou


Tue Jan 17 2017 5:41 pm EST

And I have no idea why anyone would want to employ CAPUANO over AV...just to carry this a bit further...I don't think Captain Jack is a bad coach. Maybe a little old school for my liking...but he didn't do squat with the Islanders and has never taken ANY professional team out of the second round of the playoffs...AV went to the cup finals. Twice. Capuano couldn't hold the strap of AV's jock...and the talk of Twitter is that his coaching days are basically over.

tdchi


Tue Jan 17 2017 5:37 pm EST

mf - So let's blast by the blistering reality that the Rangers and Islanders would never swap franchise players --even in this bizzaro modern world where anything seems possible these days...let's say for a second they WOULD shuttle players over the Brooklyn Bridge...what the F would the Rangers ever want to do that deal?!? Why would the Islanders want to do that deal? Doesn't make sense for EITHER franchise...Rangers gain a top center and a player who is arguably among the top 10 in the league...but they essentially become the Islanders...a team with no one to play between the pipes...And on top of that, they inherit the uber-streaky HALAK AND LADD...two awful contracts...and they lose ZUCC...the Islanders get their franchise goalie....but they fall into the same trap the Rangers were in, which is that with STEPAN and the centers they now have, they'll expect Step to play a role that simply doesn't fit...so you're taking the heart of one club and swapping it with the heart of another...neither team gets better. And really, both of them get worse.

tdchi


Tue Jan 17 2017 5:20 pm EST

RF4L - Totally missed my point. The Hawks have been very savvy with picking players. They've been very stupid with what they do with them once they're in the system. You get bent by Gorton trading a couple of second rounders and SAARELLA for Eric STAAL...but it's OK to trade DANAULT(who looked very good on Saturday BTW), a second rounder, a first rounder, and DANO to rent three guys for one round of the POs? That's also not bringing up the cap moves they made: Shedding BYFUGLIEN, BROUWER, SAAD, SHARP, and LADD(the first time around) to name a few...giving up young players in the HAYES brothers, PIRRI, and TERRAVAINEN...my god...if the Hawks held onto their assets, they'd have a lot more than three cups...

tdchi


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:56 pm EST

RF: we may need to toss in a 2017 1st or 2nd rounder... Break out your Rosaries cause G-d knows you don't own Tefillin.. :->)

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:55 pm EST

AON what a screwed up franchise the Islanders are. Unless there's a miraculous turn around due to the coaching change (doubtful) gotta figure Snow is gone at season's end. It's rare to see a GM canned mid season.

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:52 pm EST

Mf....see my response to KIS shortly thereafter...

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:49 pm EST

Mf....I'm in!!!

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:38 pm EST

Traderator Spotted in the Boroughs of NY: Stepan / Zuzz / Hank & AV for Taveras / Ladd / Halak & Capuano.... Maybe eat $1mill of Hanks contract if we need to sweeten the deal..... None of the players or coaches need to change their home addresses for this one...

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:38 pm EST

Rick Carpiniello ‏@RickCarpiniello 25m25 minutes ago Good luck to former Ranger and terrific guy Doug Weight. He will need it.

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:33 pm EST

RF: please refer to KIS's post of Tue Jan 17 2017 8:41 am EST.... (T/Y KIS)

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:33 pm EST

Wild...there you go again - posting what is nothing more than your opinion as fact when someone dare express their opinion that doesn't put the Ranger organization in a glowing light. Carry on dude!!

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:28 pm EST

Criticizing the Hawks reeks of pure jealousy to me. If only the Rangers had their recent problems (and 3 cups)....

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:25 pm EST

and before anyone jumps on my case for being insensitive, it's Hospo's fault!

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:23 pm EST

amen to that...... Can we fire the Frenchman & hire the Guinea?

mf


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:18 pm EST

The fact that Capuano was fired before Snow is just mindboggling. The fact that the Isles were as good as they were in recent years is more a testament to Capuano as a coach more than Snow as a GM...by virtue that he signed CHIMERA and LADD over MARTIN and OKPOSO should be enough reason to fire him alone.

tdchi


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:12 pm EST

#Isles News: Jack Capuano has been relieved of his duties as Head Coach. Assistant GM Doug Weight will serve as interim Head Coach.......Rick Carpiniello ‏@RickCarpiniello 9m9 minutes ago Rick Carpiniello Retweeted New York Islanders Poor S.O.B. never had a chance with this group.

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:11 pm EST

Rick Carpiniello ‏@RickCarpiniello 2m2 minutes ago Isles owners should be talking to Neil Smith right now. Give him the chance he didn't get with Charles Wang.

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 3:10 pm EST

happy trails jack capuano.....doug weight interim coach....

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 12:20 pm EST

If we're going to point to a team that has been an unmitigated tire fire of a franchise for trading away picks and prospects for next to nothing, look no further than the Chicago Blackhawks...now I must first say the Hawks have been INCREDIBLE with their drafting...year in and year out, they run the draft table better than any franchise I can recall...their evaluation of talent is second to none...and make no mistake: Were it not for that very simple fact, they'd be a marginal team basically on the verge of not making the playoffs and not a three-time cup winner...Look at what they dumped at the deadline last year to rent FLEISCHMAN, WEISE and LADD...In the past year, they've given away TEREVANIEN, DANAULT, DANO, and a first rounder for what amounted to a second rounder...the year before they gave away DAHLBECK and a first rounder to rent VERMETTE...They let Kevin HAYES walk, let PIRRI and Jimmy HAYES go for almost nothing...the team hemorrhages good solid prospects and the best thing you can say for them is they compensate for it by dealing guys they can't fit under the salary cap for more picks...If the Rangers are playing fast and loose with their young players, the Hawks are basically breaking the sound barrier and not even bothering to buckle their seat belt...Certainly, they can somewhat afford to do that because they have KANE, TOEWS, KEITH, SEABROOK and now PANARIN...but man...if they just let their young players develop, they'd probably have another cup or two and a few more in the future...If I were an NHL GM, I would have the Hawks on speed dial and call them once a day and pick up the pieces they regularly shed. You could rebuild a franchise with what falls off the heap they have in Chicago.

tdchi


Tue Jan 17 2017 11:25 am EST

Wild- It's possible regarding undrafted players. But what does it take to sign a Panarin? A Zaitsev? That is all about presense and connections, building a long term relationship. Why did Vesey sign with us? We had all kind of ins. Zuccarello? Hedberg is a legend in Ornskoldsvik (Modo), might even have been a member of their board. How many chats did Hedberg as our rep have with Zucc before he choose us over Detroit? 100? Toronto was all over Zaitsev for a long time and Chicago was all over Panarin for a long time before they made their choice. As far as I know, we don't even have someone stationed in Russia. The thing is, there is a legitimate lack of confidence from these players in that it's a given that they will be threated well by all NHL teams. There is a TON of examples of players in Europe being signed by NHL teams and then during the first week of camp the coach get to see them play for the first time and goes "I have no use for that" and the player never gets a shot. Stuff like that. They will pick the team they feel the most comfortable with. To become that team, you need to build up a long term relationship with them. The best thing would be if we could sign guys like Hedberg but in Russia, IE maybe not someone to do the groundwork (they are needed too) but someone that has a lot of connections. Knows the players, coaches and GMs etc. Think of it like this, let's say two teams are scouting a player playing for Colorado for a European team. One of them is me and he other is Chris Drury. Who would have an easier time to lure over this player to Europe? Chris could drop by the lockerroom at any time. Call up the GM, ask him to put in a good word. Chat some with Sakic, maybe have a joint meeting with the player, Sakic and Drury. What could I do? Buy a ticket to a game and watch the player? Try to get to the lockerroom by trespassing more or less. It's the same thing but the opposite in Europe. Hence why I think we should beef up our presense in especially Russia. We have nobody there.

Ola


Tue Jan 17 2017 10:04 am EST

RF4L: The fact remains that the Rangers are young enough that as long as they have a good draft this year there will be no fall off. You say they are relying on 3rd rounders, well, Buch looks to be one of those top end guys, so bullet dodged for one draft, they signed Vesey, another bullet dodged, Hayes is still young, another dodged. SO 4 years ago they got a top 6 talent without a 1st rounder, Shesterkin was 3 years ago (no guarantee but that kid looks like the real deal). Its too soon for the '15 and '16 drafts IMHO, there could be a really top end young kid there or not, Day looks promising, but still needs time to really develope of course, Gropp we don't know about yet, nor with Kovacs or Zborovskiy...another year I would think before we can know for sure what they will become. If they keep their 1st rounder this year, and maybe grab a 2nd or a 3rd, and add a pick or two for the draft after they will be more than fine. No team adds a top 6 F or top 4 D every draft, the Rangers in the last 5 years have added at least 1 top 4 D (Skjei) and Possibly a second in Day, a top 6 F In Buch (perhaps another in Nieves or Tambellini or Gropp) and possibly 1 or 2 goalies in Shesterkin, Huska, or Wall. The Hawks have 3 top 6 F, possibly 1 or 2 more, and on the backend they don't have much nor in net...you are the one who pointed to the Hawks, and they may be in a worse situation moving forward once their players move on or out.

Wildcard


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:49 am EST

Ola: In regard to the KHL, I remember reading an article about remote scouting and about private scouting firms being used for stuff across the pond. I don't know if it is or can e as effective, but if the Rangers have hired a scouting firm to give them reports and also do a lot of film work, perhaps thats enough. I mean they do have quite the wizzkid in net in the KHL and I remember that there was talk right away that their staff felt that he was a good player, that can't be just by accident that they drafted him. And they grabbed Buch in the 3rd round a few years back.

Wildcard


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:43 am EST

RF4L: he Hawks might have a bunch of picks...but 25 of those over the last 5 years are 100 or later in the draft. I understand that the more picks you get the better your chances of finding a player even that late, but lets not act like they have been accumulating high picks. You rip the Rangers for trains away top end picks, but than point to teams adding late rounders as being smart. The last 2 years they have not had a first rounder, the year before that they didn't have a 2nd rounder. Somehow the Hawks are great with the draft because they have lots of late rounders, the Rangers suck because they haven't had a first rounder.....

Wildcard


Tue Jan 17 2017 9:36 am EST

KIS...as I've stated more than once previously part of sustained success organizationally is ensuring you have a continual flow of good and cheap young talent. Good and cheap are keys. Cheap is easy due to mandatory entry level contract rates. Good not so much. Of course I am not concerned with the current roster from those 2 attributes. The feeder system is another thing altogether however. Management is relying on 3rd round picks turning into top 6 forwards/top 4 d-men and winning prize collegiate ufa sweepstakes for that lately. It's a risky philosophy that isn't sustainable IMO. I believe Gorton agrees and that's why I don't believe you'll see him endeavor to address the dman issue with picks. BTW half the players you cite (if not more) are Ranger first round picks. To me that speaks volumes.

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:42 am EST

i forgot Buch

KIS


Tue Jan 17 2017 8:41 am EST

Rf you keep complaining about how the organization has no youth, Did you ever think the team has the youth playing already. You have youngsters like Skjei and clenddenning on D both 24 or younger. You have Kreider and Step both 24 I think Step might be 25. You have Mika Jt miller Hayes Vesey all under 25. Fast , lindberg and I think Perry is still young. This is a young team. Even if you had more youngsters in the minors, where would they play? Not everybody is getting an Eichel, Matthews or Mcdavid. You have to finish last to get that. Last time I looked the Rangers haven't lost in a decade. They have been pretty strong.

KIS


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:59 am EST

Newf...yep it's a solid lineup. Plenty of depth for sure. Should be utilized to shore up weaknesses elsewhere IMO...

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:58 am EST

So Shane Doan says he'll accept a trade this time around. Lol. Four years too late dude!!

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:40 am EST

Ola....just speculating but could be the reason those 2 teams have such a presence overseas and the KHL in particular due to all the extra picks they've accumulated? The Hawks for the past 5 to 6 years and the Leafs since the Shanaplan was launched. The Rangers over the past 5 years have been trading away picks recklessly.

RF4L


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:39 am EST

Brett Cyrgalis ‏@BrettCyrgalis Kreider-Stepan-Zucc, Nash-Zibanejad-Buchnevich, Grabner-Hayes-Miller, Vesey-Pirri-Fast. Hrivik cleared waivers, likely on way to AHL. #NYR

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 7:34 am EST

You know if Zinbad does play with Buch and Nash tonight................then you have Steps line ......and Hayes/Miller and Grabner............the 4th line is Linberg/Vesey/Fast.........call me crazy but that's not too bad ?.........now if we can get Staal back and old Hank back on the rails............................

Newfie_Ranger


Tue Jan 17 2017 6:31 am EST

The expansion plans are the curve balls gorton has to be able to hit . Otherwise he would be trading for shattenkirk already or by the deadline. Fishboy needs a fish finder to navigate this mess the NHL and the genius has him in. Something armchair gms don't have to do.

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 6:24 am EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/16/rangers-think-henrik-lundqvist-can-still-turn-season-around/

stevielegs


Tue Jan 17 2017 4:51 am EST

Bob- Yeah for sure. But it isn't easy to get much done in this league right now. Hayse and Vesey are saving our bacon right now. We would be in deep without them. The Zibanejad trade might push us forward too, this was supposed to be his break-out year, tough the break a leg during it... :( Hopefully he can get going again. Fast and Lindberg are playing better and better. What can Gorton do going forward? Its very hard to accomplish something. I am looking at Toronto and Chicago, they are very very very active and visible in Europe and especially the KHL scouting players. We have very little presens in the KHL. We have a Russian in the front office, but as far as I know he is stationed in NA. Think that is one thing Gorton could do, beef up our "amature" department in the KHL. Another thing, I think Kenny Gernander must be upgraded. He is doing a horrible job in the AHL. Despite what any NYP article might say, they are playing a very different and simplistic style down there.

Ola


Tue Jan 17 2017 4:46 am EST

Its 2017 now, I would argue that Hank has been shaky since October 2013. That was AVs first disastrous month (week?) as the coach for this team. It was also around the time when the last set -- as far as I know -- of changes was made to goalie equipment. I checked, it was before that very season they made the pads a lot shorter. The 200% comfort just hasn't been there the last years. He had shaky starts. Shaky stretches. Etc. But, in the end he has every single post-season come up extremely big for us. Not been under .927 in the POs, save for last season. Hank is not done as a goalie. But everyone must reinvent themselves on a regular basis in an extremely competitive league like the NHL. We have been a bit challenged by the Cap etc the last years, and I think it has wore a bit on him. He haven't gotten much of a breather.

Ola


Mon Jan 16 2017 11:13 pm EST

I expect that Gorton will continue re-tooling the Rangers in small bites. The question is: when they are truly ready to compete for the cup, will it be with a different goalie?

Bob


Mon Jan 16 2017 10:32 pm EST

Schneidw...you talking this deadline or 2018 deadline?

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 9:48 pm EST

It would NEVER happen, but... At trade deadline, the NYRs and Gorton decide to adjust the roster and trade NASH and ZUCC for prospects that are near NHL ready... Free up $12M.yr in salary to sign UFAs coming up in 2018... wishful thinking

schneidw


Mon Jan 16 2017 9:03 pm EST

E...yes. And New York. And Detroit. And Montreal. Zero evidence of any. All pure conjecture. Like what's being said about Tavares...

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 9:03 pm EST

E...yes. And New York. And Detroit. And Montreal. Zero evidence of any. All pure conjecture. Like what's being said about Tavares...

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 9:03 pm EST

E...yes. And New York. And Detroit. And Montreal. Zero evidence of any. All pure conjecture. Like what's being said about Tavares...

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 7:24 pm EST

Wasn't Stamkos going to sign with TO? Every ON hockey player always wants to go back home to be a hero. It'll be interesting to see where he will land but I just don't think TO has anymore of an inside track then any of the other usual suspects. Until it does...

E


Mon Jan 16 2017 6:06 pm EST

TD...the Tavares to sign as an ufa in 2 summers eoth TO is A popular story in my parts. I get the allure of course but I wonder how financially feasible it will be. JT will command huge $$ as an ufa and will get a big contract even if ge took a TO discount. The Leafs will need to keep cap space for Matthews Marner and Nylander, all of whom wi be coming off their elc deals around that time (or a year later). It'll take cap wizardry to make all that work...

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 5:55 pm EST

TD...in response to your ahl agrument - yes a lousy ahl club doesn't mean the prospect cupboard is bare and the Jets team is ample proof. Winnipeg has one of the healthier prospect lists. That said it can be a symptom of a barren feeder system and it's my opinion that's the case with the Pack. Given the lack of skill in the amateur ranks for the Rangers it's only gonna worsen (unless Gorton weaves some magic).

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 5:50 pm EST

Halversieve, Gropp and Day ate the last 3 first Ranger draft picks. The first 2 are already disappointimg (altho not written off yet) and the jury of course is out on Day because he was selected only 7 months ago). It highlights IMO the perils of fretterimg away first rounders. Seems like yesterday folks were gleefully pointimg to the 3 3rd rounders from a few years back proclaiming that trading firsts away wasn't a bad management practise. Here we are now and one of those kids is looking like he'll never get out if the AHL and another is struggling to regain the promise he showed just last year (the fact that he was traded in a separate but equally foolish move is another but very related story). Fortunately the 3rd player looks legit and the nob who frettered away all those high picks appears to be out of the pucture lest that kid get bartered away in another idiotic deal.

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 5:48 pm EST

I tend to agree the Isles ain't trading TAVARES...unless it becomes clear he's going to play out his contract and leave as a UFA...but even in that scenario: No way in HELL do they ever trade him to the Rangers. There would be an open revolt among the Isles' fan base...even the pansy-ass millennial hipsters in Brooklyn would be pushed into violence. The only way Tavares ends up on the Rangers is if he signs with them as a free agent or there's a three-way deal, where the other team double crosses Snow and ensures his club never deals with the Islanders again...I wouldn't, however, be surprised at all if Tavares plans to sign in Toronto...He'd be a complete fool to resign with the Islanders with how badly that franchise has been operated for the past 30 years. They can't convince taxpayers to overhaul the Mausoleum, so the team moves to an arena that was never intended for hockey...they've never bothered to invest in a real goalie...or draft one for that matter...just one stop gap after another...ROLOSON to NABOKOV to HALAK and now to GRIESS of all tenders...And despite having either a top 10 pick or at least two first rounders, the Isles have been just about as bad as a franchise can get with their drafting...STROME, REINHART and now DAL COLLE all appear to be lackluster picks at best...and even the solid players they do land in the draft get screwed up somehow...Nino NIEDERITER for instance...Looking like HO-SANG is a bust...looking like they've botched the development of BEAUVILLIER...de HAAN isn't nearly the franchise defender they figured he'd be...and POLUCK can't stick with the big club...and about the best they can hope for right now is that KEIFFER BELLOWS is coming as-advertised and that BARZAL, despite a quiet WJC, is still considered a solid pick...And instead of resigning NIELSON and/or OKPOSO, they hand the bank to LADD and CHIMERA...man, if you think we have problems...take a nice hard look at the Islanders franchise...

tdchi


Mon Jan 16 2017 5:40 pm EST

BTW no Halversieve is disappointing albeit not surprising. Another first Ranger pock sinking fast...

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 5:38 pm EST

WIOSA....pretty weird that we are concerned that BACKUP goalie is hurt!

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 5:33 pm EST

Well that sucks scissors. Hank...get out of that damn funk and stop the puck. Pleease stay in the net...just stop the puck.

WIOSA


Mon Jan 16 2017 4:26 pm EST

Mf....sorry dude but the islanders are not trading Tavares. Ever.

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 2:50 pm EST

NHL.com tweet...Raanta to miss at least a week...Rangers goalie Antti Raanta will miss 7 - 10 days due to a lower body injury...Magnus Hellberg was recalled from Hartford.

RF73


Mon Jan 16 2017 2:34 pm EST

Mika zibanejad is playing tomorrow night vs the Stars

tlats


Mon Jan 16 2017 12:42 pm EST

Callahan & his contract were recently discussed here: http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/callahan-watching-season-slip-away-as-he-s-out-another-month-with-hip-injury

mf


Mon Jan 16 2017 12:38 pm EST

RF: There are positions open at "Traderator Incorporated." ..... Can you structure one around this? Stepan / Zucc & ???? for Taveras / Ladd (and his obscene contract. he turned 31 in December and has 6 years after this one at $5.5mill per)

mf


Mon Jan 16 2017 12:33 pm EST

Shattenkirk almost guarantees The Blues a deeper run in the PO's...... That should be at least as good of a return you'd get for a rental.... Decision: "Blues keep him" ;-)

mf


Mon Jan 16 2017 12:25 pm EST

Newfie....thanks for taking the time. You should have lied to us....LOL.All is well in Pack Land....

MelvilleFred


Mon Jan 16 2017 12:23 pm EST

For me it's not stats with Stepan.....I just don't think he's a winner and he's certainly not a number 1 C. There are 2 forwards I would not mind parting with....Stepan and Zucc. I mention them because they would actually bring a decent return. Obviously there are others that can be moved but who cares. This Ranger group has unfortunately missed the boat for a CUP since we wasted the best years of Lundquist's career. Reflexes don't come back. I'm still not over the fact that they could not muster a better effort against Toronto when you had the McDonald Family in the House. I'm absolutely blown away by that. Well you don't get a do over. That will forever be in the books.

MelvilleFred


Mon Jan 16 2017 12:11 pm EST

Saw Shattenkirk last night. He played well and is highly skilled. But the Blues defense corps overall is very good. The top pair pf Pietrangelo and Parayko are beastly. Even their 3rd pair of Edmunds-Bortuzzo played well. Seems the Blues will be able to live without Shattenkirk after this season. I bet they ride it out and let him walk.

Bob


Mon Jan 16 2017 10:51 am EST

TD...interrsting. hawks will want picks amd prospects however...

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 10:50 am EST

E....I think it's a guarantee Shittenkirk will get Yandle type money next summer. The Rangers likely will be priced out of the competition. That said Nash will be moveable this off season...that would free up some big $$.

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 10:47 am EST

Wild....Stepan is a fine 2 way center. A numbet one center on a top team? Only in New York a team that since he's been with them fail in the POs over and over again because they cannot produce enough offense (last year being the exception when they sinply stunk overall). That offensivr shortcoming we see each PO is in part because indeed Stepan is their number 1 centre.

RF4L


Mon Jan 16 2017 10:27 am EST

I wouldn't be surprised I'd the Blues ride Shattenkirk into free agency depending on where they are as they come down the stretch. Personally, I think the New York Rangers need more offense and mobility on the blue line. A guy who can jump up in the play with more consistently and make a more dynamic threat. But I wouldn't spend big on that which is free in July. Unless I felt like this is it and I had to push in what little I had left to try to wring another run out of this.

E


Mon Jan 16 2017 10:01 am EST

Also wonder what the Hawks would want for Van RIEMSDYK and HARTMAN...

tdchi


Mon Jan 16 2017 10:00 am EST

If I were to make a bet on how I think the Rangers will play the deadline, I'd take all my chips and slide them over to the SHATTENKIRK section of the table...I have no idea what he'll cost but I can't see the Blues holding on to him and they're not going to want to lose him for nothing...which they will if they hold onto him for the playoffs...they can easily promote SCHMALTZ to replace him on the right...Rangers can hold onto Shattenkirk and then resign him after the draft...it's not the solution I'd find...but it's the one that make the most sense...My thought is that they really should look through some of the RHS blueliners in the AHL right now and target one of them...Mentioned Jordan SUBBAN before...Wings' Robbie RUSSO would be another...SCHMALTZ would be awesome...Stars' Julius HONKA. Not sure any of the parent clubs would part with them...but those would be the guys I'd target.

tdchi


Mon Jan 16 2017 9:45 am EST

RF4L - At the risk of rekindling our argument about the health of the Ranger feeder systems, I thought of you when I saw the roster for the AHL all-star game: http://theahl.com/rosters-set-2017-ahl-all-star-classic. Check it out. This gives you a barometer for the quality of other AHL teams. Just to point out a few things...Out of 48 players, only 7 were first rounders(and that includes JENSEN, the Pack representative)...Each division has 12 players selected, one from every team. Among each set of 12, you can find at least five or six AHL lifers...guys in their mid-20s who may get a sniff here and there, but are pretty much beyond the point of being considered a viable NHL prospect. The remaining half are a blend of over-performing late round picks, UFA signings and a few second and third rounders sprinkled in...If you look at the names and don't recognize many, you're not alone...this is an excellent illustration of the AHL...it's a developmental league to a degree...but the record of its teams has little to do the quality of prospects on their roster. Take Manitoba for instance...this is a roster where I can pick out at least six guys who I think have NHL careers ahead of them...and even a couple I think will be stars...but the team is below .500...does that mean the Jets' feeder system is broken? Hardly...means they have a bunch of green kids in their far system...Crux here is that I don't think you can base anything on the Pack's record other than whether or not they're going to make the playoffs.

tdchi


Mon Jan 16 2017 8:44 am EST

On Stepan, can we dispense with the absolute myth that he is not a top center please. He is a two way center who over the last 5 full seasons plus the first half of this one that is only surpassed by 16 centers scoring wise and is top 30 in points per game. He is 4th in +/- over that stretch. 28th in pp points and 3rd in short handed points. 16th in game winners. So again, let's not pretend that half the NHL wouldn't give him 6.5 mil per in a heartbeat and dump one of their top guys at C for him. Somehow this idea that he has failed to produce, or is way down the scoring list and he isn't good enough to be a top 2 center on any other team has taken root with Rangers fans. Quite literally there are teams that have ZERO centers with as many points per game over the last 5 and a half seasons as Stepan does....he would be the leading scoring center on some teams....

Wildcard


Mon Jan 16 2017 8:24 am EST

I do not have to be right, and often wish I were not, but this issue with Hank is not two bad games. He can not catch a softball with his glove hand, his stick handling is on a par with mine , and he does not see through traffic and allows too many deflections in. Breakaways are about 50-50 when once they were game savers. The window when he was given as a strong reason for a cup run has definitely past. The team structure in front of him has to change because he does not fit in his skinny jeans any more. The reflexes once his hallmark are not what they once were.

gene_carr


Mon Jan 16 2017 7:23 am EST

#Habs: Shaw admitted his hit on #NYR Jesper Fast was "maybe half a second late", but has not received a call from Stephane Quintal. #TSN690

stevielegs


Mon Jan 16 2017 5:06 am EST

Mike Green has been a mess when I have seen him, unfortunately...

Ola


Mon Jan 16 2017 12:14 am EST

Bob...Allaire can't fix age......

MelvilleFred


Sun Jan 15 2017 6:37 pm EST

Bob I think all-aire has done a good job with antti ... hanky might need some tough love ... instead of kid gloves....

stevielegs


Sun Jan 15 2017 6:16 pm EST

It is clear the Benoit Allaire is no longer getting the job done.

Bob


Sun Jan 15 2017 6:15 pm EST

It is clear the Benoit Allaire is no longer getting the job done.

Bob


Sun Jan 15 2017 5:54 pm EST

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/01/15/staged-mascot-fight-offends-some-on-social-media-prompting-apology.html

stevielegs


Sun Jan 15 2017 4:48 pm EST

Any report on Raanta? Guessing Halversieve gets the recall. If Hank sucks again next outing would AV risk pissing gis $8,500,000 goalie off and start the kid the game after? I'm guessing no...

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 4:46 pm EST

Mf...salary too high for what he delivers IMO...

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 4:31 pm EST

And, would he do the trick for us?

mf


Sun Jan 15 2017 4:30 pm EST

Trolling for RHS Offensive D'men; anyone here up on Detroits Mike Green? He's signed at $6mill per for this season & next. Any guesses on his price tag ? http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/player/4600

mf


Sun Jan 15 2017 4:15 pm EST

TD. I will be shocked ( and dismayed) if Gorton coughs up a high pick in any deal (unless what's coming back includes an equally high pick). Now being upset over what does go the other way if a good young d-man is acquired is another thing. Stepan and Zuke for me are expendable. For Gorton? Who knows. He might be prepared to deal someone like Miller in such.a trade. That'll upset some folks for sure...

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 4:10 pm EST

Newf...thx for the reports. Alas nothing unexpected for me. Still I find it depressing - the feeder system has been compromised and that crappy Pack team is the first tangible result. I suspect things will get worse before they getbetter unless Gorton can weave some magic.

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 3:52 pm EST

MFred...I'd rather a non PO finish with a chance to win the draft lottery than that....

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 3:43 pm EST

TD...not disagreeing that the King is a top 10 goalie. When he struggles however he's not better than 3/4s of his peers...

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 3:34 pm EST

RF4L......you got your wish.....the exception being the King finishing up. Not seeing much of anything good right now. Best case squeak into the playoffs and win a round. like I said early on, we have wasted Lundquist's prime years. He will no longer be able to carry us.....reflexes just ain't what they used to be.

MelvilleFred


Sun Jan 15 2017 2:15 pm EST

Bob: the situation may force us to find a LHS D'man that can run the PP from the "Right Side." A beggar's can't be chooser's situation....

mf


Sun Jan 15 2017 2:15 pm EST

BOB - Nothing wrong with a smart veteran D-man PP QB for the PO run if the Rangers are so inclined..because the only way you get a young D-man/PP stud for now and future is by dealing one of the core--- I have no problem with that (Stepan, Hayes, Zuc, top my list) but doubt the Rangers would

Hospo


Sun Jan 15 2017 2:05 pm EST

mf...........right on !

Newfie_Ranger


Sun Jan 15 2017 1:55 pm EST

Unfortunately every team is looking for RHS defensemen. The Rangers will have to give up prize talent to get one, so I believe it will be nothing more than a deadline deal for a veteran pending UFA for them. You cannot get Justin Faulk or Tyson Barrie for Jensen, Pirri, yet al. I wonder of Oscar Lindbergh might bring something worthwhile back, but probably not.

Bob


Sun Jan 15 2017 1:49 pm EST

Newf: Dineen( one of the 3 "gals" of The Wall) used to give us scouting reports on the Whale / Wolfpack ... I enjoy any reports relating to our lower ranks... that's all.... ;-)

mf


Sun Jan 15 2017 1:46 pm EST

mf............what's up with ..........".where did MS Dineen go" ???????...........just asking ...........

Newfie_Ranger


Sun Jan 15 2017 1:34 pm EST

Newf: Thanks for the scouting report...... (where did Ms. Dineen go?) ..As for D'man John Gilmore, I was hoping that he was a RHS, no such luck, and he's a -21urgh http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=146192 ... As for Hank, I'm convinced that AV's game-plan has more to do with his GAA these last two season than anything else.... The team has been trained to reflexively think, "turn on a dime and shift into offense" and I believe that this is at the cost of, "Not Finishing Their Defensive Assignments First." .... IIRC, for the most part of the last 5 seasons, when the Rangers focused on Defense First, the opposition has a tough time potting more than 2 goals against them.. Personally, that's the brand of hockey I enjoy watching. Defense first, then turn on a dime up ice, make the opposition pay for their mistakes. Again, capitalize on the oppositions errors.... It would have been great to sign Hank at $7.5 mill per, and I think Sather could have pulled it off, but, it is what it is...... Next: Trading Stepan & Zucc: IMO first & foremost we need to see Zibanejad settle in and play his way back into game-shape.... To mimic a KIS term, the return of ZBad to the line up will force others "to be slotted" better throughout the lines.... I think its prudent to give this team time with Z & Stepan as the 1st & 2nd centers in no particular order, perhaps based on matching up against the opposition..... RF: I fully get wanting to unload Stepan because of his contract, and, I would have liked him signed at $6mill or less per & not $6.5mill ..... (these millions & half millions have a way of adding up) AND I would have liked to have had the flexibility to trade him in the last year or two of his contract.. Bottom line, I think his contract is palatable and based upon his style of play I'm thinking that it (the contract) will be alright........ The Defense: The LHS should be fine with McDonagh / Skjei / Holden..... our "chink in the armor" aka: the RHS defense has certainly exposed itself.... There is a shortage of RHS defensemen, and once you add in all our needs and wishes the list of candidates are few and far between and the cost goes to the category of "overpayment." Who to trade? Lindberg? Jensen? Pirri? Fast? Klein? a LHS D'man off the farm? Gropp? Tambellini (who I was really hoping would make it to 2nd or 3rd wing talent) ? ...... all jmho's naturally

mf


Sun Jan 15 2017 1:20 pm EST

New York Rangers are not going to trade Lundqvist. And while it seems that he maybe aging in terms of his nightly performance I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if Lundqvist has an otherworldly post season performance. But in terms of winning without a Vezina goalie I believe that wholeheartedly. Take for example Pittsburgh last post season. Could they have won the cup with hypothetically Raanta in net? Absolutely. In my opinion the game has changed. You need a solid goalie in the NHL now. Neither goalie in last seasons SCF did I consider elite in the classic mold. When you have a defense that blocks every shot coming in, and the amount of traffic a puck has to travel with obstruction the need in net has changed. That is why so many teams see great success with just one of these 6'8 lanky guys. They cover tons of space, black out your view and have 5 guys around them looking to sweep and clear the puck. At this stage I think the New York Rangers fate could be placed in the hands of either Raanta or Lundqvist and I think the results could very well be similar. No one will argue that Lundqvist doesn't have another gear as history shows. Reality says, "does the teams fate live or die on that gear?" I don't know? I'd be just as comfortable in a post season with Raanta right now. And maybe more so because he's been less erratic and more sound. But Lundqvist isn't leaving, the team has no interest in trading him. But in the future do I think they are going to hand out a max contract to another goalie? Not likely. I think the days of the max contract goalie ride off when Price, Lundqvist, Rask, and Quick (maybe a couple of others I'm missing) age out. What pay 8-9 when you can win with 4-5? That's another franchise level forward/defenseman.

E


Sun Jan 15 2017 12:41 pm EST

Ribbit hrvrik on waivers

stevielegs


Sun Jan 15 2017 12:13 pm EST

Wolfpack report............like I said last night, don't mean to pour salt into the wound but this team is NOT very good. We lost 4-2 but the game was actually better to watch than the OT win on Fri. We were out shot again 34-26 and although the 4 goals were not his fault ,Halverson looked average at best. The two best D in Graves and Bodie the night before were the worst players on the ice for us the whole game (go figure). Actually Summers had a good first period, couple of end to end rushes and then disappeared. I don't think he played in the 3rd at all, probably an injury. The best Dman and player for us all game was John Gilmour. had a PP goal as well .Graves was the cause of the first goal and got a stupid tripping penalty for another goal.Bodie couldn't control the puck at the blueline which caused a breakaway from our blue for the game winner..............Bob......Tambellini has good skills and works hard but just doesn't stand out................RF4L.....I watched Nieves closely all night. He is big, good skater, and kills a good PK, so/so on FO. He certainly does not look like a natural goal scorer, after all going into this series he only had 3 goals in 31 games ........Glass, who played much better last night , has 6 goals. Nieves made a few little mistakes that lead to turnovers and killed a couple of rushes ( of which we don't have many).............as a team..........we have trouble getting out of our own end, can't put two passes back to back to save our life. I don't think it's exclusive to the Pack but the wingers are too low and all chips are being kept in by their points constantly. When we do get out it's in low numbers thus fizzleing out at their blue line much of the time. To sum up , this is not a strong team and there is no one (except Jensen) that looks like they could be called up and considered HELP for the big club. Actually Hellberg would be interesting ?

Newfie_Ranger


Sun Jan 15 2017 11:53 am EST

I didn't realize the nyr were not playing man on man d until gia-one claims ahkneel said before the 3rd they didn't want to play the hab boys man on man....guess that experiment failed for 62 seconds and 3goals while ass vipe held onto his timeout ....grabher almost tied it but he didn't....why isn't on the pp? .... pigeon holing by the coach is a serious flaw....he belongs on the point on the pp to negate shortie chances...captain mcdoodie is great ... ask dickaletti....think Shea Weber.... not....

stevielegs


Sun Jan 15 2017 11:19 am EST

After actually watching the last two games, don't count me as one who is ready to dethrone The KIng...Still making the great saves but seems out of synch with the defense leading to errors,,,,,Look, I know he's not a top 3-5 goalie in the NHL, but he's still a goalie you can win the cup with if you have most of the rest and the team play is solid....The Rangers don't and don't.right now........They lack leadership big time..They will never win anything with MCD as Captain..good player (but flawed) but not a leader (nor is AV)...In today's pansy NHL, the lack of the offensive RHS PP d-man is a death sentence given the rest of the team...Too many finessey choirboys on the team also...I know the NHL is a differnt shitty game, but a bit more attitude/leadership is needed...SOmebody like Jarome Iginla would be perfect (not saying to trade for him)....Overall, what should have been two great games were still mostly a borefest for me the way the Rangers play the game...Thank god the Leafs played physical and targetted some rngers to spice u that game..and loved the Shaw hit on poor Jasper...Totally shocked that the Rangers (JT MILLER) reacted...WHich goes back to leadership..I thought or hoped at the beginning of the year that JT MILLER would take a big step up as a leader this year...Maybe after some ups and downs he finally is...Leaders have to do things the other guys AND THE COACH won't or are afraid to..Good job JT

Hospo


Sun Jan 15 2017 11:11 am EST

As for the D corp, I don't think their situation back there is nearly as difficult to fix as you make it sound...but it'll require a ballsy move that will probably not win Gorton many fans...there are guys out there who would quickly settle the Rangers' back end...but it's going to cost a young forward and picks...and probably a young forward no one will want to lose. Certainly, there are some bad contracts back there... but the Rangers aren't in any crunch for cap space...and at year's end they could very well see $10 million in contracts gone...pretty clear GIRARDI is going to be bought out...and there's a chance we have seen the last of Marc STAAL...so I don't think there's much of an issue, other than the dire need for the Rangers to make a move that significantly upgrades their D corps.

tdchi


Sun Jan 15 2017 11:04 am EST

RF4L - Agree to disagree on Lundqvist versus his peers...guy is still in the top 10 among NHL goalies...I don't for one minute believe the Rangers have or ever will investigate trading him...he hasn't had a great season thus far...not winning games for the Rangers...and I can understand why, after the past two nights, people think he's on a downward slide...I just don't believe it. Were I to venture a guess, I'd say Hank will end up with a .920 save percentage and 2.30 GAA by season's end...guy has been consistent as the calendar...totally understand the tenor of the wall right now...He's sucked...and he he's been streaky as hell this year...I just don't agree with this notion that he's facing an imminent demise or that this is the beginning of the end for him. Guy is still a franchise goalie.

tdchi


Sun Jan 15 2017 11:02 am EST

It's a whole new world for the Rangers. The strongest aspect of their club for years is now an issue. How will they deal with it? You don't need a Vezina winner to win the cup. But unless they find a way to beef up the skill on the back line they are not winning the cup...........and the only person that benefits from a round or 2 in the playoffs before going out is James Dolan. I don't care about that...........I want the cup back in NYC and anything less is a failure. It truly appears that thre window is closed, and the finals against LA and semis against Tampa was as good as it was ever going to be for awhile.

Bob


Sun Jan 15 2017 10:47 am EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 3h3 hours ago Rangers off today after the B2B. Will prax Monday, with a goalie callup or signing expected, to prep for Dallas Tursday

stevielegs


Sun Jan 15 2017 10:40 am EST

BTW, PRICE has let in 11 goals in two games...and 15 over three starts...And he's generally considered the best goalie in the league(though I think he's an overrated hack). Goalies have bad nights...bad weeks.

tdchi


Sun Jan 15 2017 9:56 am EST

Also I concur the defensive makeup is partially to blame. Not an easy fix thanks to Sather giving out silly contracts to 2 of them not to mention poor decisions on Strakman Yandle and Boyle. A series of big mistakes. Thank goodness that incompetent fool faded into the background. Gorton has a big mess to clean up. I suspect it'll start in June with the costly buyout of Girardi...

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 9:48 am EST

And FWIW I disagree strongly that a struggling Lundqvist is better than 3/4s of his peers.

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 9:45 am EST

TD...I don't want either but no way will Dallas absorb the King's salary without shedding one of them. This trade would be about shedding the King's huge salary and adding picks/prospects. Moot anyways - with the King's play lately Dallas probably are losing interest and it's doubtful the King would agree in the first place. I only posted that because I mused about it this summer knowing sooner or later that contract would be a cap crippler for the Rangers. Yes the King is struggling but let's hope the sooner aspect isn't this soon! A number 2 goalie making $8,500,000 is a main ingredient of an extensive non playoff run....

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 9:30 am EST

I wouldn't be quick to jump on the demise of HANK...I concur, the guy looked like crap last night and the night before...two stinkers for sure...but with Hank, I don't think his problems are physical...more mental...the guy absolutely sucks coming off the bench...the game a few months back when RAANTA had to go through concussion protocol and Hank came is a great example...And it is tough, coming off the bench after sitting for 45-plus minutes, to get in the zone mentally...especially against a fast team like Montreal and in a game where the Rangers' defense was...well...not very good...I guess I'm kind of surprised a lot of you are ready to drop kick Lundqvist out of the net after a few shaky games, when the guy continues to make saves that are jaw dropping...To me, the biggest issue for the Rangers is that they now have three defenseman that are miscast in various different capacities...essentially three guys on the right side that should all sixth or seventh defenders...GIRARDI is the first and foremost...and expecting KLEIN to be in the top four is really setting up for failure...now we have CLENDENING In the mix...This has been a problem since the start of the season and we continue to see it exploited periodically...That loss is on Hank...without a doubt...and the glaring truth about him getting older is that the Rangers can no longer depend on him alone to win games...but he didn't get much help in either game this weekend...so before we run Hank out of town and import a couple of Finnish sieves, let's take a look at the rest of the team first.

tdchi


Sun Jan 15 2017 9:16 am EST

RF4L - Not if you've seen LEHTONEN or NEIMI play recently, but if you think Hank's game has gone down hill, you're not going to find much solace in either of those clowns. Hank has had two stinker nights and were the season to end today, I'd agree that he's lost a step. But Hank one step back is still ahead of three quarters of the goalies in the NHL.

tdchi


Sun Jan 15 2017 8:51 am EST

RF4L: I hope I am wrong also re: yesterday's post, but last night did not help. My goodness Lundquest looked shaky on routine stops.

gene_carr


Sun Jan 15 2017 8:14 am EST

Doesn't the idea of moving the King to Dallas for one of their Finnish goalies (who'd be exposed at the LV draft) a first and a top prospect look enticing now???

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 8:12 am EST

IMO Gorton should be shopping Stepan and Zuke. The former due to his contract and redundancy with Z's imminent return and the latter because with Kreider Miller Vesey and Buch he's replaceable. Their collective haul should address the offensive d-man issue and lack of picks recently.

RF4L


Sun Jan 15 2017 7:25 am EST

Stanky hanky has a confidence crisis.... hopefully it's not more than that... but he should get eye and reflex exams ...

stevielegs


Sun Jan 15 2017 7:21 am EST

Mats Zuccarello has gone 12 games without a goal and 27 games without one against a goaltender since beating Jacob Markstrom in Vancouver on Nov. 15. Zuccarello, though, has 12 assists in his past 11 contests, including one Saturday while playing with Chris Kreider and Derek Stepan on the club’s most formidable unit. “I’ve never evaluated my game by goals or even points,” Zuccarello, who has eight goals after getting a personal-best 26 last season, told The Post. “I feel like I can have my best game and not score a goal and then struggle in the next game and get two or three. “I feel like I’m creating chances at one end and I think I’m doing the job in the defensive zone, blocking shots and doing what I can there. It’s about the team, not any one individual.”

stevielegs


Sun Jan 15 2017 5:45 am EST

Why can't Hank save any shots between the pigs anymore? Damn he is looking old. Throw a wheel chair on the ice at him next game. Can't be hard to get in and get close to the ice with it.

Ola


Sat Jan 14 2017 11:31 pm EST

I had to finish watching the Ranger game I was recording and then I was gonna give my second report from the pack game. We lost 4-2 in St.John's tonight so I won't add salt to the wound. I'll give my report tomorrow.............in regards to our game........HANK SUCKS ! And has Zucc given up scoring goals or something ?

Newfie_Ranger


Sat Jan 14 2017 10:38 pm EST

Bob -- yes the Killorn Krusher, 2015. Oh well. We had our window for four years.

Nick


Sat Jan 14 2017 10:34 pm EST

Hank with 4 more after this season... http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=NYR

mf


Sat Jan 14 2017 10:08 pm EST

And NICK--at least there were not any slow=paced 30 foot backhanders allowed in this game, or any 2 goal leads squandered like there were twice in the Finals against the Kings by Mister Head and Shoulders.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 10:07 pm EST

Bob....5 years to go!!!

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 10:04 pm EST

The decaying corpse of Henrik Lundqvist has allowed 9 goals in the last 5 periods. He was completely discombobulated each of the last 2 games. It was only a matter of time tonight from the time he entered the game. All air had better make an emergency intervention.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 10:03 pm EST

What happened to Raanta?

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 10:02 pm EST

Sather BTW sucks. Nice stupid contracts he's saddled Gorton with. Mind you Gorton gave Stepan a stupid deal too...

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:59 pm EST

When is the last time zuke made a difference in a game?

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:58 pm EST

Way to go veenyo the score 2 in 30 seconds no timeout so they score a 3rd 30 seconds later... great coaching ....

stevielegs


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:57 pm EST

Team and the king should be ashamed

KIS


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:44 pm EST

Hank will be even better in 4-5 years for that $8 million per! Meanwhile somebody named Matt Murray won the last Cup. Man I wish some dope GM would take this guy. But he loves New York and wouldn't go anyway.

Nick


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:41 pm EST

5 -4 game

mf


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:39 pm EST

The d and hank just aren't good enough

KIS


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:38 pm EST

dammit Hank. He just cant play montreal

WIOSA


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:38 pm EST

3 goals in 1 minute wafj

stevielegs


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:37 pm EST

5-3.... what is that 3 goals in 3 minutes?

mf


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:36 pm EST

Stanky hanky thanks to mcdoodie and girlardi.... good job....

stevielegs


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:36 pm EST

Saturday Night in Montreal.... what fun.......

mf


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:10 pm EST

Does duguay also have a job as a maître d' ?

stevielegs


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:04 pm EST

This guy dickaletti is a complete moron. Mcdoodie gives up a breakaway and he's praising him for coming back like he's the savior .

stevielegs


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:56 pm EST

It would be nice if one of these idiots would shoot the puck on one of these 2 on 1's.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:55 pm EST

I was just going to say is kreider playing

KIS


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:52 pm EST

....I dont believe it

WIOSA


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:51 pm EST

Does anybody take a body on D. Or do the rangers just skate all over and watch the puck

KIS


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:40 pm EST

It's Miller Time !!!!

mf


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:36 pm EST

Henrik is flopping all over the place. No way they win now that Raanta is injured.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:30 pm EST

Shaw needs to be concussed again. What did he do? I'm vacationing so not watching it...

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:28 pm EST

And the Hab's fans yell, "Je ne crois pas, Je ne crois pas!"

mf


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:26 pm EST

RF4L, well I was convinced we should deal Kreider, and look what happened, Im kinda thinking of Miller now.

WIOSA


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:24 pm EST

Andrew Shaw is a gutless punk.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:24 pm EST

WIOSA...keep thinking!!!! Lol...

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:23 pm EST

Diaper NASH !!!

mf


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:06 pm EST

Everytime I think somsone is expendable...they score.

WIOSA


Sat Jan 14 2017 7:41 pm EST

Rea-pirri

stevielegs


Sat Jan 14 2017 7:41 pm EST

Chicken Pirri with the 1 timer for the PP Goal.....

mf


Sat Jan 14 2017 7:35 pm EST

I'm not going to overrate TO and undersell the New York Rangers. Truth is, the New York Rangers didn't look sharp. They looked like a team that hadn't played in a week. And TO had their game going. I find it highly unlikely that the same will be said next time around.

E


Sat Jan 14 2017 7:26 pm EST

well I take it back goalie interference no goal .. so f'in wakeup boys

sjw


Sat Jan 14 2017 7:24 pm EST

. and like on cue .. a goal against in the first 5 minutes.. disgusting

sjw


Sat Jan 14 2017 7:17 pm EST

Saturday night in Montreal, is it even worth watching?

mf


Sat Jan 14 2017 7:17 pm EST

Saturday night in Montreal, is it even worth watching?

mf


Sat Jan 14 2017 5:40 pm EST

Bob veenyo was making comments after the game on how the laffs coach has his team and his former team playing interference and getting away with it. Someday maybe he'll realize teams cheat to win games and the cup. I thought Martin did a good dive to draw a penalty on skjei. ... as the cliche goes if you can't beat them join them ... the nyr got beat...

stevielegs


Sat Jan 14 2017 4:39 pm EST

So Toronto plays fast but also physically. Must be nicer to have a great coach that is willing to embrace both.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 3:48 pm EST

Newf...can you give us some feedback on the guy some were gushing about in preseason - Boo Nieves please? Offensively so far he's producing as a pro what his collegiate numbers suggested he would. Does he look to have anything in his game that will translate into a bottom 6 NHL forward? I know he's got NHL.size and possibly the speed; does he exhibit a hockey sense however?

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 3:33 pm EST

Tambellini's non-descrpt start this year likely means the end of his NHL chances are nearing. Third year as a pro who likely isn't gonna make it as a checking forward, he needs to produce/take the next step offensively. And he's not.

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 2:05 pm EST

I can recall being at the Garden for a playoff game against the Flyers and my ears actually ringing (like at a concert) from the noise. Doubt that ever happens in any non-concert event there anymore.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 1:49 pm EST

MSG is depressingly average these days. One thing that I always notice is the acoustics. The arena crowd noise was bolstered by the blue seats that were always the most fanatical. But now with the sky bridges the noise from the blues doesn't reverberate off the ceiling and fill the open space. It's like having a speaker with cardboard taped over it. It's totally muffled. The lower bowl is completely taken over by corporate seats that uses the seats as comps and whatnot. So, the passion is lower, the fans arrive late and leave early. My last playoff game that I was there for vs the Caps I found the atmosphere so ho-hum and it was an awesome game with a late game tie and win by the New York Rangers. Nothing like the zoo it was when I was a kid and the Flyers or NYI were in town.

E


Sat Jan 14 2017 1:47 pm EST

If the WJC is any indicator, Greenway is a player. We'll see. Some up here thought Jacob Trouba would be a stud in the NHL too (jk TD!)

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 1:28 pm EST

I've never been to a game at MSG.............a post this morning got me thinking though. What it was really like there last night ? On TV it looked like a great tribute to McDonald and his family , the presentation, the crowd chanting and all that. And it continued well into the game . So, to anyone on here who was at the game last night .....how was it ? good or bad ? with regards to the non-hockey part ?

Newfie_Ranger


Sat Jan 14 2017 1:06 pm EST

Newfie - I remember Union had him listed at like 165, and thinking 'yeah...maybe with equipment on and having not taken a dump for several weeks...' Really wish the kid would get a sniff at the NHL level...maybe with STAAL out he will...he's really slick with the puck...his shortcoming has always been his defense...just been an adventure back there...Actually, I think he was the guy who helped settle McILRATH in his own end, because Mack used to always have to cover Bodie's ass...would love to see Bodie get a shot...he and GOSTISBEHERE were incredible during that championship year...with those two on the ice, teams were constantly on their heels...Bodie was less flashy than Ghost...didn't have the shot...but he was a soldier. Just 110 percent every game. Was always quick to jump in the play and was absolutely lethal from the top of the circle.

tdchi


Sat Jan 14 2017 12:57 pm EST

Bob - The biggest gripe I have with GROPP is that he should have been GREENWAY. I see what the Rangers were going for in him and there was a time I did think he'd be a solid NHLer at the very least...but if they were going to take someone in the PF mold, Greenway was the clear and obvious pick...Think Gropp had a little more speed...but Greenway had the size and drive. I have little doubt Greenway will be in the NHL...at this point though, I'm not so sure about Gropp.

tdchi


Sat Jan 14 2017 12:31 pm EST

tdchi..........Bodie is small , glad to see it wasn't a mirage or anything. Interesting about Okasnen, I didn't know he was a former D, but I can see that with his size and agility. I'm really hoping for Halverson to get the start tonight. Even just to compare him to Hellberg from last night.

Newfie_Ranger


Sat Jan 14 2017 12:19 pm EST

Newfie - First time I talked with BODIE was the day after Union won the Championship...Was at Union and there was a huge crowd of fans there to greet the team...to say it turned that city upside-down is an understatement...but I digress...I was standing by the front of the bus and sort of behind the door when it opened, so I couldn't really see faces and didn't really know what most of the guys looked like without equipment anyway...So the first guy who walks off is this scrawny middle schooler who is holding the NCAA trophy aloft..and my first thought was 'why the hell did they let the stick boy greet fans?!' Pan to 10 minutes later when the guy introduces himself to me as Bodie...I've been a big fan of OKSANEN since his BU days...was thrilled the Wolfpack gave him a shot, but somewhat surprised he got demoted to Greenville. He's a well-rounded player...still don't really know why they bumped him to forward, because he's very good defensively...Was pleased to see he got promoted after HRIVIK got the call up. Glad to see he's standing out down there...the only guy I have a question about is HALVERSON...they'll probably start him tonight...seems like the Pack games have gotten a lot tighter in the last couple months and I'm not sure whether that's because of their D or the tandem in net....And also, I suppose TAMBELLINI...my guess is you won't notice much out of him unless he scores. But that's a guess.

tdchi


Sat Jan 14 2017 12:11 pm EST

Bob..........Gropp is back in JR but Tambellini didn't show me much last night. Granted it's only one game on the road but I'll see a lot more tonight (unless they were all down on "George Street " last night LOL.) On the D, like I said Graves and Bodie were the only stanouts. Clendenning may not be everyones cup of tea up with the big club but I think he would standout a lot on this club .

Newfie_Ranger


Sat Jan 14 2017 12:07 pm EST

TD-Thanks. Guess that is what happens when your first draft pick comes in the 2nd or 3rd round. Thank goodness Gorton was able to reel in Hayes and Vesey or things would really be bleak up front.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 12:03 pm EST

GROPP got cut and sent back to the WHL as an overager. He's playing OK in Seattle, but not to the level he should be. Let's just say the performance he had in TC wasn't an aberration and at this point, I would really call into question his future as a Ranger...TAMBELLINI has his nights and vanishes. You don't hear much about him, because there's not much to say. 30-40 point AHL player right now...still has a world-class shot, but the rest of his game still doesn't match it.

tdchi


Sat Jan 14 2017 11:38 am EST

NEWFIE: My only question about the Pack is regarding their defensemen. How nice it would be if there was some help from them to look forward to. Also wonder whatever happened to Tambellini and Gropp, who we never seem to hear anything about anymore.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 11:32 am EST

Well I went down to see our Wolfpack last night ..........and they won in OT. Don't get too excited ..........this is not a good team ! I was gonna give this report last night but I watched the Ranger game I had been taping on TV. The IceCaps are 3rd in the North Div (18-14-4) and we are 7th in the Atlantic (14-20-3) just to give you some basis here. The first TWO periods were a bit of a snooze fest only for the solid play of Hellberg. Nothing special but very solid.No score after two. We had almost no offensive attack what so ever ! We had only 6 shots on goal in the 2nd. The St.John's goalie almost fell asleep. However , things picked up in the 3RD. The Ice caps scored early and I feared that would be the only goal of the game. But, Jensen scored on the PP with a wicked wrister from the high slot. End to end after that goal . Late in the game we had a PP and the Coach put out 5 left shots. I was very disappointed in that call.Almost zero scoring opportunities. The 3 on 3 OT was fast and exciting with Chris Brown scoring on a great individual effort. I went home happy just to watch that Leaf crap on TV. Oh well. On the player end of things....Glass did his usual job of hitting but looked a little slow ......Hellberg is bigger than I thought but skinny and quick. Graves and Bodie stood out on D but Bodie (wearing the C) is way too small for my liking.He is tiny by NHL standard D men. Other than Jensen the rest of the forwards were invisable and non-effective. Actually one guy did stand out a little and that was BIG #71 Ahti Oksanen. I'm going back down again to night for game two..............anyone want me to look at certain things or players for them ? I'll give my report again either late,late tonight or Sunday morning.

Newfie_Ranger


Sat Jan 14 2017 11:32 am EST

And another thing.......Toronto played physically and fast. Matt Martin played a serviceable game, took the body and avoided the stupid crap he did when playing in Brooklyn. Komarov plays physically as does most of their D and they are no worse off for it. Shows that Babcock is a far superior coach over AV, IMO and makes the game more enjoyable to watch. Also minimized the cheap shots that the skill guys have to endure.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 11:25 am EST

I think the atmosphere in the building is an issue in a lot of placed. The difference betwen MSG and some of the other buildings is that people do come to the games at the Garden, where in other arenas the seats are paid for but empty. In Anaheim where I have season tickets, the lower level is typically 1/3 empty unless the Kings, Chicago or the Rangers are there or it is the playoffs. The Flyers game featured about 4000 Flyer fans, and when they payed a game 7 against Chicago a few years ago there were easily 6000+ Hawks fans in the building. Rangers fans took over the building last year too. Pricing? My buddy's Ranger season tickets are $90 fifteen rows up in the upper level. My Ducks tickets are $60 in the lower level behind the goal. In the big markets, most fans are priced out.

Bob


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:23 am EST

Gene: Your point has merit but I hope you're wrong. The King has 5 more seasons at $8,500,000/per. Do we have another looming albatross contract thst will be by far the most damaging one? I am hoping he sorts it out but for sure an omen for the future. He's struggling at 33 and 34; what's he gonna be like at 36/37? Scary to ponder IMO.

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:16 am EST

What separates elite goal tenders from good ones is consistency. They all have a bad game or two but on the whole they perform at an elite level. Lundquest's days as an elite tender are over and that is apparent over the past two seasons. What I find offensive is his "dirty looks "and apparent anger at his dmen when a tip- in goes by him that often is due to his positional play. He does not have the reflexes he once possessed and is not on a par with the top goalies in the league any longer. The King has been deposed.

gene_carr


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:14 am EST

TD...a large part of the problem I think is ticket prices. Top end prices result in corporate audiences and most of them aren't there for the team or game. Places like Nashville cannot charge those prices so more true fans can and do attend. The same complaints are heard in Toronto - ticket prices are similar. Guess what? The issue isn't going away...

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 9:00 am EST

Been thinking a little about the difference between the very good hockey of the World Juniors and what was a pretty mediocre game last night on what was supposed to be an emotionally charged night for the Rangers...and all play aside, I couldn't help but to notice how badly the Garden absolutely SUCKED last night...just a dead mausoleum...even when it was still a tight game...even when the Rangers were pressuring...even when the announcers were asking fans to give the Steve McDonald and the McDonalds a round of applause. Sucked, sucked and sucked...I don't know who these assholes are who are going to the Garden every night, but if you want to talk about a lack of emotion...man...the atmosphere there just blows...in contrast, the World Junior medal games...every pass...every hit...every shot the stadium erupted...can't blame boring hockey on the fans, I know...but man...I really don't understand how some of these schmucks shell out two, three, four hundred...maybe even five hundred for good seats...and they sit there like they're watching the fucking opera. Man, I go to the Garden, I make sure both benches can hear me loud and clear...I leave that place with laryngitis that doesn't go away for a week...I get how the Dolans and MSG have sucked the life out of that place...I get it all too well...turned it into this sort of corporate wasteland where they'd rather keep seats empty than draw the truly passionate fans down from the rafters...but I tell you what: You want to find a big difference between the hockey of yesteryear and the hockey of today...well there's a key difference...man, I remember going to games during the late 1990s and early 2000s...the darkest modern era of the Rangers...and it was louder at the Garden then than during an original six matchup like last night...and on night when there shouldn't have been a single fan leaving the Garden with a voice. Just a crying shame...and it ain't gonna get any better. Sad when places like Nashville and Columbus and San Jose can generate more noise and passion than the Garden.

tdchi


Sat Jan 14 2017 8:48 am EST

Kind of rare when I watch a game and agree with everyone on the wall...mostly....HANK, after making a flurry of incredible saves before the first goal, was average at best. He gets a pass on one goal, which was tipped in by McDONAGH...but the other three? Soft serve. Goal he would have had five...maybe even three years ago...Rangers struggled mightily with a game plan...seemed wedged between the low-skill dump-and-chase and the high-skill puck movement...and when they tried to play the latter, they seemed just half a step behind one another...As easy as it is to blame the loss on HANK, that also lets a lot of guys off the hook...the forwards gave Lundqvist almost ZERO help...They had a few nice shots on ANDERSEN and both STEPAN and PIRRI beat him, only to drill post...but there were almost no second-chance attempts. One shot, one save, one whistle...now they could have won that game...but the centers were collectively like 25 percent in the faceoff circle and PP was just awful. Again, no second attempts after a shot...disjointed puck movement...team looked REALLY rusty...Few notes: I keep saying CLENDENING needs to string together a few strong performances if he expects to stay in the lineup...well, he's back at zero. Last night wasn't bad, per se...but again, he didn't stand out the way he did in the comeback versus the Jackets...I would say that's not the performance you want to send up to the front office when they're feeling out their options in wake of STAAL'S absence...had a really stupid penalty and a giveway...but worst of all, he didn't do much to jumpstart the Rangers' stalled --no pun intended --offense...GIRARDI...Ugh...all I gotta say. It's a real shame GORTON can't find a top RHS defenseman so that this guy can at last draw down in the lineup and play the role of a 6th defender....0-for-6 on the PP. Toronto tried as hard as they could to give that game to the Rangers...and when they weren't trying, the refs were...and the PP simply couldn't generate squat...agreed, however, this changes when ZIBANEJAD cycles back into the lineup...top player to take a seat right now? Brandon PIRRI.

tdchi


Sat Jan 14 2017 7:26 am EST

Fully expect a loss tonight. Fully expect Raanta to start. Now watch the King start and the Rangers win...

RF4L


Sat Jan 14 2017 6:38 am EST

Want = wasn't

stevielegs


Sat Jan 14 2017 6:36 am EST

Hospo the nyr didn't exert any extra effort last night. Guess they forgot what that award means on the night that tried to honor a guy who lived 25 years more than some doctors predicted. .... yes the nyr could use a good d man to help the pp. but history has shown that the coach and former coaches even when they get one of these saviors they don't deploy them as much as they could or should. Ass vipe' s all of a sudden insistence on having captain mcdoodie on the pp is not the answer to replacing yandle. For the soon to be all star d man to continue to shoot wide from the point on the pp cannot be in purpose. And to not give the extra effort to keep the puck in at the blue line on the pp is just more proof of that. The leader captain should be looking more for shooting for guys to deflect his shot over what he's been doing .and maybe really understand what his position should be to keep that puck in the zone especially on the pp. it's not completely his fault since the coaches usually don't have 2 d men on the pp so one covers for the other to avoid giving up shorties. I still believe playing the regular units of 5 in the pp would be better . And this guy disa-pirri experiment is almost the definition of insanity. Why this guy could do it in preseason and not now means almost nothing except the competition want as good then. Try grabner in his spot if they are going to insist on the structure of their pp.

stevielegs


Sat Jan 14 2017 6:34 am EST

Hank is letting in many shots between the pigs.

Ola


Sat Jan 14 2017 6:33 am EST

Hospo- Agreed. But getting Zibanejad back will also help a great deal. I think Step is better than ever, but he is far from good on the PP. He is behind so many giveaways on it. Can't buy himself time. Can't control the decision making when to make a cross ice pass, when to go low again etc. Why was our PP good early this season? I think it's simple, Zibanejad was a huge upgrade over Step.

Ola


Sat Jan 14 2017 1:31 am EST

And one thing that still remains as obvious as in the pre-season, this team needs, among other things, a RHS PP QB D-man to do anything of signifcance in the POs,

Hospo


Sat Jan 14 2017 1:20 am EST

Looks like I picked a fine night to quit sniffing glue, errrr,not watching the Rangers intently....Nah, only fell asleep twice....had a few good stretches but mostly a Pretty lame game by the Rangers...Deserved to lose....The King with some great saves but also some softies....Except for MARTIN and maybe a Leaf D-man, pretty much a total absence of malice and physicality....complete with players, especially Rangers, pulling up from hits.......Yawnage but status quo

Hospo


Fri Jan 13 2017 10:52 pm EST

So Henrik says the difference was Toronto's +2 on special teams. He fails to mention the 2 softies he allowed.

Bob


Fri Jan 13 2017 10:25 pm EST

The King is now Mr. Softee

Rhet0ric


Fri Jan 13 2017 10:07 pm EST

Not a bad game is not for 2 softies by the goaltender. Toronto is going to be a very good team in a couple years.

Bob


Fri Jan 13 2017 10:04 pm EST

And Montreal tomorrow. Trust Raanta will get the game.

RF4L


Fri Jan 13 2017 10:00 pm EST

When do the nyr come back from the bye week? Next week?

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 9:45 pm EST

Mfred...Martin is not an AV player...

RF4L


Fri Jan 13 2017 9:45 pm EST

Leafs after so many years in the wilderness finally realized the right way...

RF4L


Fri Jan 13 2017 9:38 pm EST

.......and they should have signed Mat Martin........

MelvilleFred


Fri Jan 13 2017 9:37 pm EST

Come to think of it this is what they usually did on Steven McDonald night.....I can't tell you how dissapointing this is.....

MelvilleFred


Fri Jan 13 2017 9:34 pm EST

This IS the right score. Well deserved

E


Fri Jan 13 2017 9:30 pm EST

Fans are shitting the bed tonight too. What a disgrace all around.

stepunmytoe


Fri Jan 13 2017 9:08 pm EST

Really sad that they're shitting the bed tonight. I was hoping for a better effort.

MelvilleFred


Fri Jan 13 2017 8:47 pm EST

3 pucks through the wickets tonight. That was the only one not on Henrik.

Bob


Fri Jan 13 2017 8:43 pm EST

Assist captain mcdoodie

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 8:42 pm EST

Another stanky hanky stinker

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 8:42 pm EST

Pull the King !!!!

stepunmytoe


Fri Jan 13 2017 8:33 pm EST

Kreider with a gritty goal

tlats


Fri Jan 13 2017 8:05 pm EST

The trend continues with bad first goals.. apparently Hank has allowed the first goal on the first shot 7 times already this year .. now that wasn't a first shot .. but PU

sjw


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:53 pm EST

Rangers will not win games with this level of goaltending. 2 goals right through Lundqvist.

Bob


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:41 pm EST

The commercial for the new MSG hockey show really blows!! :)

stepunmytoe


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:35 pm EST

Wow. To call that a penalty is astounding. Pussifucation of hockey is almost complete.

stepunmytoe


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:32 pm EST

Should be penalty shot kadri put hand over puck in the crease

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:25 pm EST

The two assholes talking their laff love ...stfu

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:25 pm EST

Bob; Right. Very classy tribute.

stepunmytoe


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:23 pm EST

Sick quickie in , healthy ribbit hvrik out

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:19 pm EST

No idea how you play a game after that ceremony.

Bob


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:12 pm EST

When the Rangers play Dallas, they could very well be the closest they've been to a healthy team since the first week of October. Can't wait to get ZIBANAJED back. That's the key addition here.

tdchi


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:11 pm EST

Man...busy the last couple days...haven't kept up with my posting, so figured I'd slip this in just in case _arc starts losing interest. Fully anticipate a stinker tonight, as a result of it being after a break...which was after a break. Maybe even a repeat of the Buffalo game. Won't freak out about it as long as they bring their A game against the shitbag Habs.

tdchi


Fri Jan 13 2017 6:56 pm EST

RF4L, there are sometimes I dont even think theyre reading the same book, never mind the same page.

WIOSA


Fri Jan 13 2017 6:55 pm EST

Raise #104 to the rafters

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 6:51 pm EST

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_McDonald

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 4:55 pm EST

I was a huge CALLAHAN fan...really thought the team was going to suffer a dearth of leadership when they traded him...and I did think he was was worth the money he was asking...but in the back of my mind, I couldn't ignore the fact that Cally was writing checks his body couldn't cash and that at some point, he'd drop from a 40-to-50 point player to what he is now, which is an oft-injured penalty killer making three times what he should make.

tdchi


Fri Jan 13 2017 4:51 pm EST

I am anticipating a fast game - both teams can skate and put pucks in the net. Is Buch playing? If so good game for him to return in.

RF4L


Fri Jan 13 2017 4:49 pm EST

BTW don't be surprised to see the Rangers fall behind early then score their way back into the game tonight. It's been the Leaf way for many of their games especially against teams who've not played them previously. The Leaf speed and skill catches them by surprise. Then the inexperience of the Leafs allows the opposition to come back. Toronto has coughed up several significant leads this year so far.

RF4L


Fri Jan 13 2017 4:33 pm EST

Eric Staal a player the GM gave up 2 high picks for and the coach inexplicably refused to play in the top 6, now is on pace for nearly 30 goals and 50 points. Wby was he even acquired? 2 2nds was a high price to pay especially given the derth of high picks lately. Makes me wonder if the GM and his coach are on the same page....

RF4L


Fri Jan 13 2017 4:20 pm EST

Nick...exactly!

RF4L


Fri Jan 13 2017 3:41 pm EST

Keep drafting Jessimans and McIlraths in the first round (or trading away the picks) and you'll always have 'depth' constituted of 6-9 second-liners and 4th D-men.

Nick


Fri Jan 13 2017 3:15 pm EST

Lose Staal, buyout Girard, reload.... Too bad that's not an option....

mf


Fri Jan 13 2017 3:10 pm EST

Something to keep in m8nd re the expansiom draft: A team can only lose 1 player...

RF4L


Fri Jan 13 2017 2:49 pm EST

One other factor to consider in the LV expansion draft.... I believe that after the draft LV will also be able to sign UFAs and make trades with clubs. For example, they may agree to trade Grabner or Fast back to the Rangers for draft picks or up and coming minor leaguers (like our Russian goalie of the future) and/or fill out their lineup with UFA signings. So, who they pick (and in what order) will also be under their consideration in how to build a team. In any event, if I were them, I'd be more focused on building a defense to not get embarrassed in the early years. Kind of like Yogi Berra selecting a catcher as his first pick as Mets coach. JMHO.

Ranger47


Fri Jan 13 2017 1:23 pm EST

The Rangers don’t have those guys coming. They don’t have Crosby, McDavid, Ovechkin, Doughty, Toews or Kane. What they have is depth up front that runs for miles. That is the Blueshirts’ greatest strength. As Lamoriello might say, that is also their greatest weakness...........http://nypost.com/2017/01/13/the-rangers-greatest-strength-has-become-a-12-year-dilemma/

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 1:20 pm EST

Anyone up on when LV starts to participate in the NHL entry draft? Do they participate after this season? I'm thinking (hard to believe) that they can take on some bad contracts in addition to draft picks an really stockpile their farm... This will be an interesting time to grade the GM's... Let's be serious now, they can't compete with The Wall GM's.....

mf


Fri Jan 13 2017 1:12 pm EST

Yup Julian Massage.... That's the ticket.....

mf


Fri Jan 13 2017 1:11 pm EST

SLegs: but Sweden has Julien Massage & wiki leaks.... That's kinda special too.. ;-)

mf


Fri Jan 13 2017 8:27 am EST

Stevie. I don't disagree but Callahan's demise was predictable. Just like Girardi's. You play they way they do and come their 30s they breakdown. Both were given deals with zero foresight. Cally would be a Ranger if he'd come off his demands by 10%....Sather dodged a contract bullet there for sure...

RF4L


Fri Jan 13 2017 8:10 am EST

rf unfortunately many players when they get that big ufa contracts become mercenary retirement plans, and they under-perform since they have the gold in advance .....nhl needs more incentive based contracts....by fixing this cap parity mess....

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:57 am EST

Wild. IMO Sather got lucky with Callahan; if Cally's demands weren't so silly he'd be another albatross contract for the Rangers...

RF4L


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:57 am EST

NICK.... The NYR do not have to sign Pirri, Fast or Lindberg, I believe they would just have to qualify one or all of them. That would ensure that they would have a contract next season and it would fulfill the requirement.

Rhet0ric


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:45 am EST

New York Rangers ‏@NYRangers 11h11 hours ago We love the suggestion from our #NYR family to come together tomorrow night @TheGarden and all wear blue to honor Steven McDonald!

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:43 am EST

Mika Zibanejad, sidelined since Nov. 20 with a broken fibula, took his first full practice with the squad Thursday. He will not suit up Friday or in Saturday’s contest at Montreal, but he could be back for Tuesday’s game at the Garden against the Stars. Zibanejad won’t be the only Ranger missing from this unique match between clubs coming off their respective bye weeks. Marc Staal, officially in the NHL concussion protocol, did not practice and is sidelined for an indefinite period. Jesper Fast, who also did not skate, is highly doubtful after having lost eight pounds this week suffering from the flu. Matt Puempel remains on IR with post-concussion symptoms......http://nypost.com/2017/01/12/rangers-return-to-full-strength-cant-come-soon-enough/

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 7:39 am EST

“There is nothing like it at home,” Lundqvist told The Post on Thursday. “From the minute I got here, it was obvious to me that this is a unique relationship, the way the police, the fire department and all of the heroes and the Rangers embrace one another and have so much respect for each other. “It isn’t anything anyone had to explain to me. I could feel it. It is unique. We don’t have that in Sweden. It was a new experience for me and I thought it was cool, really cool. “New York is so special.”....http://nypost.com/2017/01/12/a-special-kind-of-bond-rangers-to-honor-nypd-hero/

stevielegs


Fri Jan 13 2017 3:28 am EST

Wildcard- Yeah, seems like some are loosing their game faster and faster. But, it's also important to note Callys role for Tampa. He is not in a scoring role at all for them and when I've seen Tampa he has been OK, not Clarkson like...

Ola


Thu Jan 12 2017 7:58 pm EST

td: agreed on expansion. Yes there is some stuff we can know pretty well, Hank will be protected, McD will be, the crop of top forwards will be, and the guys with the NTC/NMC will be by rule. But even trying to figure out who Vegas may take is hard as hell, you have to figure out what the other teams will do, and based on that will lead to how they will select players and you also need to know what their game plan is...do they want an exciting team to put butts in the seats early and go for offensive speed guys like Grabner or will they start the team building from the net out and not be so exciting early on?

Wildcard


Thu Jan 12 2017 7:55 pm EST

Well it looks more and more and more like the Rangers dodged a bullet with Callahan. Could you imagine the angst on this wall if he was signed with the Rangers even for the 3 years since he has been gone? 3 years would have been a short deal that MOST would have been happy with at the start of the deal. His first season with TBL was used by those who wanted him to stay as proof....it was his 3rd best year ppg wise, the second year he just 28 points in 73 games, and the now this season, his 3rd he has 4 points in 18 games and is out with injury right now. He has 3 more years at 5.8 mil per....TBL will have a mess with that deal....

Wildcard


Thu Jan 12 2017 7:14 pm EST

I've seen a couple fans try to prognosticate/predict the expansion draft, and each attempt seems a bit like drawing names out of the hat...there are waaaay top many variables...sure, it's fun discussion...and I think in a situation like with GIRARDI, there is SOME writing on the wall...but everything else? Man...way too soon...and if you look at some of the shenanigans that went down in past expansion drafts...well, just about anything can happen. For instance...the Rangers could make a trade with LV so that they end up moving a third rounder to prevent LV frim taking GRABNER or RAANTA. Under this scenario, they'd take a second-rate player...let's say PIRRI for instance...and then run away with the pick.

tdchi


Thu Jan 12 2017 6:20 pm EST

nash and buch back in tomorrow

stevielegs


Thu Jan 12 2017 5:06 pm EST

There's this on the expansion draft, courtesy of SNY and my rampant plagiarism: The Rangers must expose at least one defenseman who is under contract in 2017-18 and who has played at least 40 games this season or 70 in the past two. Staal and Girardi are protected via their no-move clauses, Skjei is exempt, NYR need to expose one of McD, Holden or Klein to satisfy the requirement ... Brooks says NYR will likely ask Girardi to waive his NMC or buy him out so they can expose Girardi protect Holden ... Team must expose at least two forwards under contract in 2017-18 that have played in 40 or more games this season or 70 over the past two ... expect to protect Nash (NMC), Stepan, Kreider, Miller, Zucc, Z-ban, Hayes ... only forward signed for next year who meets requirements is Grabner ... Team must sign one pending RFA forwards Lindberg, Fast or Pirri prior to draft to fill remaining spot, or acquire forward who meets requirements ... Antti Raanta will be exposed since the Rangers have to protect Lundqvist [dammit]. Acquiring a player to fill forward spot would work but no guarantee he would be taken so don't sign deadwood. "You could also look to extend Fast with the feeling that, no matter what happens, you will have at least Grabner or Fast next season even if one is picked. I don't think the Rangers would look to extend Pirri and make him available unless they had something worked out with Vegas that he would be picked."

Nick


Thu Jan 12 2017 4:29 pm EST

Buch

mf


Thu Jan 12 2017 4:29 pm EST

Forgot about Such, he's another who should NOT require being protected

mf


Thu Jan 12 2017 3:59 pm EST

Buch just was recalled to the team so I would imagine he's gonna play his way back into the lineup soon enough. Just as the offense heals the defense dies

E


Thu Jan 12 2017 2:46 pm EST

SLegs: I'm not sure if or whether VESEY needs to be protected.. He's a first year pro... Hayes & Grabber would need to be as would Nash, Stephan, Zook, Kreider, Miller, Z'bad, Fast, Lindberg, Pirri, .... On defense, I believe that SKJEI is the only guy who does Not need be protected but I'd want to confirm this....

mf


Thu Jan 12 2017 12:04 pm EST

Old GUY not gut. Or old guy with a gut ...

Nick


Thu Jan 12 2017 12:03 pm EST

Hey Hospo ... I get your view I think, as I know you like the physical game. I don't like the now-rare fights or the headhunting or supposed 'deterrence' of pushing and shoving after a whislte but still ... I was the Minn-NYR contest Dec. 23 and if there was any contact at all there, it was because two guys ran into each other by accident. As for me I just can't get into the regular season anymore. It means almost nothing; either you're gonna make the POs or not, and then you gotta get lucky and hot. Kind of sucks; I've been a fan since I was 14 years old in 1965 but -- old gut cranky remark alert -- nothing's as good as it used to be! Although HDTV was a step forward. And the 'net (mostly). Lowfat milk too. Okay I'll stop!

Nick


Thu Jan 12 2017 8:56 am EST

guess carp missed the memo that the nyr will practice today before tomorrow's game....lb "Regarding the Rangers, who are in the optimal position possible for a deep playoff run as they come off their bye week for Thursday’s 4 p.m. practice and Friday night’s match at the Garden against the Maple Leafs:"

stevielegs


Thu Jan 12 2017 6:16 am EST

All I can say in the boring hospoesque season is I wish they had grabner last season to replace hagelin's absence. As of right now he's a lot better than hagelin , I hope he can perform in the playoffs. And if I had to chose who to protect between grabner vesey and Hayes , I'd go with grabner. But fishboy needs to resign him before he his contract is up.

stevielegs


Thu Jan 12 2017 6:10 am EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/10/jimmy-veseys-body-knows-the-rookie-wall-is-coming/

stevielegs


Thu Jan 12 2017 5:57 am EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/10/rangers-mourn-nypd-detective-the-inspiration-for-team-award/

stevielegs


Thu Jan 12 2017 5:36 am EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/11/how-rangers-playoff-comfort-should-affect-vigneaults-tryouts/

stevielegs


Thu Jan 12 2017 5:12 am EST

mf- I have said this many times, way too "few" trades are made for GMs to get a pass for it. Teams would just benefit more from adjusting their structure more. Is it hard? Compared to how "hard" it normally is to make a trade, its harder right now. But come on, some make it sound like we are dealing with extremely unique commodities that are impossible to deal between its holders because of a lot of restrictions. There are 6 positions in the game and players make between 800k and 10m per. Sure there are other factors too, mainly where a player is in his career in relation to the free agent rules, arbitration eligible or not? How long until UFA etc? But its EXTREMELY EASY to come up with an endless possible combination of deals that "could" be made looking at just these factors. Take JT Miller or Brady Skjei for example, how many players in this league aren't from the point of view of the above parameters in principle identical to them?

Ola


Wed Jan 11 2017 11:56 pm EST

Since the start of the season, there have only been six trades. None of them involved notable talent. The combination of few sellers, high asking prices, few teams carrying sufficient salary-cap space and concern over June's expansion draft is adversely affecting the trade market............. http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-why-there-haven-t-been-any-significant-trades-this-season

mf


Wed Jan 11 2017 7:01 pm EST

VCP: can you give some data as to that assertion? Because there is no such thing as a deterrent to concussions or injury. I believe the last time he got his head rocked he had some combination of Avery, Prust, Dubinsky, Rupp, Scott, Bickel blah blah blah. What happened?

E


Wed Jan 11 2017 6:57 pm EST

I recall Chris Pronger who lived in Newport Beach talked about how he couldn't even go outside and walk on the beach when the sun was shining because it was so piercing and nauseating for a long time. I saw an interview with him last season where he is finally relatively symptom free. Scary. Who knows how much time he's taken off his life from the concussions?

E


Wed Jan 11 2017 6:45 pm EST

Staals injury is on you AV. whistle to whistle BS, players get hurt more when there is no retribution. AV YOU ASSHOLE

vcp1994


Wed Jan 11 2017 6:26 pm EST

Well I guess we don't need to worry about CLENDENING getting the McI treatment...question is who gets the call for the seventh defender. My guess is SUMMERS...maybe PALIOTTA...but off chance we get to see BODIE or GRAVES.

tdchi


Wed Jan 11 2017 6:11 pm EST

E-- and that is the problem. When guys get PCS from hits that don't look like headshots is when they are reaching the end of the line. Anaheim has a guy shut down for the entire season now because of repeated concussions, the last one on a non-headshot. A puck to the mask ended Richter's career. Keith Primeau was on the radio today and said he did not feel normal again until he had been out of the game for 7 years.

Bob


Wed Jan 11 2017 4:53 pm EST

So Staal is out indefinitely with PCS? When the hell did that happen?

E


Wed Jan 11 2017 3:30 pm EST

speak for yourself. Nobody is more neurotic with tooth care then me. the teeth may get old but they'll be perfect till death. (deathly afraid of the dentist)

E


Wed Jan 11 2017 2:54 pm EST

E: And even worse, some of us are getting toothless! :)

Ranger47


Wed Jan 11 2017 11:33 am EST

SCHNEID: here is a theory. Most people on the wall are getting a little long in the tooth.

E


Wed Jan 11 2017 8:13 am EST

I agree with alot of the thoughts on the NHL in general. It's pretty unemotional and kinda boring. There are no more hated rivalries. Look at wednesday night rivalry games, they always show clips 10, 20, 30 yeas ago to show these teams hate each other. Bull shit. They've taken a great sport and made it acceptable to a large group of perspective new fans and ruined it for the life long fans. Well just my thoughts

ref24


Tue Jan 10 2017 9:51 pm EST

Hospo: whats the deal.... you going through menopause (just kidding)... stay the course.... we always enjoy your insights and wish to trade every NYR under 23YO... the WALL has been slowly decaying the past few years... not sure why...there must be another website folks are joining... not sure... but there are ALOT of smart and dedicated fans here.... stick it out!

schneidw


Tue Jan 10 2017 9:47 pm EST

GORTON: Where would the NYRs be without his additions of Grabner 19 goals and Holden 8 goals? Once again, Zuccarrello is underperforming with 8 goals despite loads of playing time, including powerplay.... I am on the record of wanting to waive Pirri... all hype, no production... Colorado is gonna host a fire sale... Gorton, please pry away Blake Comeau the Ranger killer.... he would be a great addition and cover the huge weakness on the RW where ZUCC and FAST dont produce any offense worth a shit.... As far as adding a right defense.. sorry to say, the price is going to be too high.. so temper your expectations....

schneidw


Tue Jan 10 2017 7:14 pm EST

Hospo- Admit it, you are too old to see the puck. It's nothing to be ashamed about.

Ola


Tue Jan 10 2017 7:06 pm EST

Hospo. I understand. Lost a lot of good and interesting people through the years. Take care and I hope to see and hear from you every so often. Please stop in

KIS


Tue Jan 10 2017 6:10 pm EST

Always one of my highlights of a Ranger season was seeing officer MacDonald come out and award the deserving blueshirt. RIP

stepunmytoe


Tue Jan 10 2017 5:36 pm EST

KIS - Thanks for the thoughts...Yeah, all is good..Just not that into or interested in the Rangers and the NHL right now for stated reasons...and little sense comenting negatively on a wall that has turned too serious ....Hopefully both I and the NHL will be recharged soon enough...

Hospo


Tue Jan 10 2017 4:58 pm EST

It would be WAAAAY cool if when the McDonald award was handed out this year if they somehow raised a police/detective banner with his badge number on it....

Ranger47


Tue Jan 10 2017 4:53 pm EST

Excellent story on Steve McDonald: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/steven-mcdonald-nypd-paralyzed-30-years-dead-age-59-article-1.2942612

tdchi


Tue Jan 10 2017 4:44 pm EST

Right you are Bob , Officer McDonald was promoted to detective in 1995.

tlats


Tue Jan 10 2017 4:37 pm EST

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/rangers-statement-on-the-passing-of-steven-mcdonald/c-285524698

stevielegs


Tue Jan 10 2017 4:25 pm EST

Keith YANDLE - 2 goals, 19 points, 41 games, -6, which is third-worst among blueliners on the Kitties. Money well spent!

tdchi


Tue Jan 10 2017 3:29 pm EST

I had a suspicion but wanted to double check it statistically. So far this season, NHL teams have averaged 9.1 minutes of penalties a game(FWIW, the Rangers are the third-least penalized at 6.7 minutes per game). In 2006-2007, the league average was 14.8 minutes. In 1996-1997, it was 19.9 minutes. And in 1987-1988, 29.7 minutes...to put this in further perspective, the 1987-1988 Rangers were the least penalized team in the league by far....they averaged roughly HALF(21 minutes) of what the Bruins averaged, which was 40 minutes per game. Yet THAT Ranger team's average is almost double the average per-game penalty minutes of the 2016-2017 Ducks(11.4 minutes), who are currently the league-leaders...this is exactly what happens when you slowly easy fighting out of the game...and it's also a large reason why older fans...people who started watching the sport in the 1980s and earlier...tend to think the sport and their team(s) have gone soft.

tdchi


Tue Jan 10 2017 3:26 pm EST

Rest in peace, Officer McDonald. I forsee the Rangers having a nice video for him and maybe that will ultimately show the team what its like when all players give an extra effort and the byproduct is that funny looking trophy named after Stanley Roper from Threes Company

TradeStar28


Tue Jan 10 2017 3:11 pm EST

RIP Steve McDonald and condolences to his family from a very large extended one that is all of us Ranger fans.

tdchi


Tue Jan 10 2017 3:08 pm EST

Sure sad about Detective McDonald's passing. What a courageous man, who even forgave the kid that shot him.

Bob


Tue Jan 10 2017 1:52 pm EST

Police Officer Steven Mcdonald has passed away may he rest in peace

tlats


Tue Jan 10 2017 1:44 pm EST

Hospo. Is that why you haven't been around as much? I hope all is alright for you. Please take care.

KIS


Tue Jan 10 2017 12:50 pm EST

Rick Carpiniello ‏@RickCarpiniello 40m40 minutes ago McElhinney claimed by Toronto. Wonder if he will start vs. Rangers Friday :)

stevielegs


Tue Jan 10 2017 12:47 pm EST

I mean, I certainly don't hate the game now. The skill is awesome. There is just an element that I am missing. But I also accept it isn't going to happen. So, when I see people (friends, family etc...) making this pussy New York Rangers argument I always tell them the same thing. Ask every teams fans if they think their team is tough enough and most think they aren't. I share a lot of time with a friend of mine who is a huge Ducks fan. He thinks one of the biggest problems with the Ducks is that they get pushed around too much. Seriously? The game has changed. The big hit (finished check) on the wall has led to pull-ups so the player doesn't take himself out of the play. It's just different. teams are just playing to the rules set forth by the league. And they're trying to win. And more and more the "tough" team is not cpapable of running with the fast and skilled team.

E


Tue Jan 10 2017 12:33 pm EST

Captain McDoody is an All Star

RF73


Tue Jan 10 2017 10:44 am EST

I think that the "balanced" schedule also contributes to this. All these midweek games against Arizona, Dallas, Calgary, Nashville are passionless and boring. I like seeing each team once (the Rangers actually come to CA), but I think the league needs to go back to more rivalry games. I also believe that this is secondary to the points HOSPO and others have made..........this is how the NHL wants the game to be. Little physicality and the Michelin Man in the net, It all adds up to boring games.....even in-person.

Bob


Tue Jan 10 2017 9:30 am EST

Hey Wall!! I see you guys are having the same discussion that i had/have had internally this year...I'm not trying to convince anybody about anything but, personally, I find little passion, emotion, and, as a result, physicality in the League wide game and the Rangers in particular. I've been checking in on games and even the best ones (CBJ, Philly, tc.) do little to keep my attention....AS E mentioned, the cookie cutter way the teams play, there is nobody to hate....What makes it worse,personally,is that there are very few players on the Rangers (except for Krieder, MIller) that I look forward to watching.......Yes, alot of that is tied to the total lack of physicality and outward emotion/passion in the NHL (I know the Rangers and other teamscare, but in a methodical way it seems)..Just does nothing for me these days....But again, thisis a personal problem and wish I could enjoy the game like you guys....Oh well, I'll keep checking in ...hoping that by March and the POs there is a bit more to the NHL game.....Keep on banging!......

Hospo


Tue Jan 10 2017 8:10 am EST

_Arc: The Wall is fine. We are in the doldrums of the NHL season. We are half-way through the season with the Rangers on a moronic "Bye" for a week. Plus, the Rangers have been a good team this year. So, not much to post about right now. We all know that the Wall is alive when they are playing poorly and substantially more quiet when they are playing well. Plus many of us are busy right now. The holidays, travel, year end business close, tax filings, etc. I know I haven't had the time to get involved in any ongoing conversations so I haven't been posting much. I'm reading when I can and will become more active as I have more time.

Vic


Tue Jan 10 2017 7:33 am EST

I think a lot of times you've got to play the game that's in front of you, and sometimes the game in front of you is not giving you a lot of room, and you've got to stay with the process and you've got to stay high-percentage," Vigneault said. "Sooner or later somebody will lack patience, will try to force something, and you can capitalize on it."..........http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/rangers/rangers-unsure-crazy-schedule-bye-week-worth-article-1.2891705

stevielegs


Tue Jan 10 2017 7:28 am EST

And although the system is similar, the style of coaching differs, as Gernander and his staff are obliged to think about individual development as much — if not more — than winning games. “It’s so different, because you coach grown-ups that are mature that have played in the NHL for a while up here,” Jensen said. “And down there, you’re coaching from 19-year-olds to young-20s.”.....http://nypost.com/2017/01/09/how-rangers-turned-ahl-team-into-a-seamless-feeder-system/

stevielegs


Tue Jan 10 2017 7:03 am EST

Both the NHL and ass vipe do not like old tyme hockey . The don't like fighting especially goon on goon. The NHL is playing the pc bs of trying to eliminate fighting and head shots and most times closes their eyes to guys who have intent to injure with guys they accept and punish guys that they seem to have a list of . Veenyo will tolerate some fighting or so he says but pushes for whistle to whistle to avoid taking penalties. By taking the emotions out and not believing in intimidation by or against is basically denial and utopian. Scrums are a part of that . But the concept of not sticking up for yourself or your teammates is really a bad one . Guys like captain doodie to me do not belong being captains. You need more than talent to lead . Actions are what players follow along with some words preferably trash talk and agitation. There is a fine line that has becomes too wide in reasons not to be physcal. When the playoffs start most teams go into no holds barred Texas death match. The nyr are thinking and believing too much in discipline and not enough in the concepts of mentally and physically wearing their opponents down. Boxers get the concept if they can't knock a guy out. To me mcdoodie is a pansy and I'm waiting for the day for him to drop his gloves or do something to stick up for himself or his teammates instead of taking the bs "high road" . .....Most Teams will do anything to to slow speed teams down in the playoffs . And their leadership will talk and do not just talk and make believe. It's part of being a champion vs a contender.

stevielegs


Mon Jan 9 2017 9:34 pm EST

E - I hear ya. Look, there's plenty of room to loath the Pens...it's a perfectly loathable franchise. I'd offer you them...I think the ultimate goal isn't "pansification" as some try to bill it...rather an evolution of the game into what we see now in the World Juniors: Fast, aggressive, skilled and adrenaline pumping. I see flashes of it in the NHL...and in the last three years or so...really since the last lockout, the league has been getting faster and more skilled...I get what people gripe about...before, you could watch someone like KOVALEV dance with the puck one shift and then watch someone like Joey KOCUR bloody his knuckles on some poor sap's face...you got the best of both worlds...but then came the trap...and more importantly, then came the realization that players were and continue to suffer serious side effects from being human punching bags on skates...If you cater to the fans who lament the old bruising NHL, then you're going to face the inevitability that an NHL game will eventually kill someone...guys are too big, too strong and too heavily equipped...and as we've seen, utterly incapable of policing themselves...so the league has evolved. I agree that when your team is getting face-stomped and the opposition, after running up the score, starts trapping that I want to see old time hockey...but when your team is the one doing the face stomping? Or in a game like Saturday's? I don't know...that's pretty awesome hockey in my book.

tdchi


Mon Jan 9 2017 9:23 pm EST

Hockey a dying sport? Yeah. I guess. Except for the NHL continuing to expand. USA hockey being 10 times the program it was in the 1990s...the KHL...Asian countries now developing leagues...dying.

tdchi


Mon Jan 9 2017 9:17 pm EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/no-one-has-more-fun-than-the-san-jose-sharks

mf


Mon Jan 9 2017 8:52 pm EST

E- hockey is dying (for the reason you specified). Just look at the wall and compare it to what it used to be!!! 3-4 posters and TD every day all day. It was a great niche sport and even through the abohotrant trap years it maintained its popularity because the EMOTION was still there. In their infinite wisdom to make it more mainstream and get rid of the fighting guys like Buttman and AV have put out a Harlem globetrotter product out there which has alienated most of the die hards out there. I haven't given a rats behind about this season (just not my cup of tea these prancing pansies. I'd rather not care altogether than losing my mind every other day watching pond hockey with Buddhist monks. Yeah I know the NHL itself has set it up for this but AV has shown abject disdain for anything remotely resembling 'standing up for each other' (which by definition takes place after the whistle).

_Arc


Mon Jan 9 2017 6:58 pm EST

TD: I've often described my relationship with the game as love/hate. I think the skill level has never been better. I love fast hockey. It's one of the draws. And to be sure I like that end of the product but I also like emotion. My biggest problem with the game today is that I really don't hate anybody. No villians anymore. There are no teams that I seethe about. Teams I want to beat for sure. But take the NJD. Why do we hate them? What has happened in the past 3-years to stoke this rivalry. Nothing. Really just another team.

E


Mon Jan 9 2017 6:54 pm EST

On a different topic, the NHL should create a new set of rules for LTIR and concussed players. The current LTIR puts a lot of pressure on concussed players to come back, peer pressure, these guys can be extremely loyal and want to come back. With what we know today, that peer pressure should be eliminated. LTIR for concussed players should mean that the contract completely comes off the books. /End Rant

Ola


Mon Jan 9 2017 5:04 pm EST

E - I think you're spot on. I don't and never have believed this narrative about AV being a pacifist...Where I kind of disagree is on the hockey itself...when the Rangers were firing on all cylinders, they were one hell of an exciting team to watch. Just moving the puck at the rate they were doing it...that's something to marvel...Not that I don't like the hard-scrabble NHL of by-gone years...at the very least, though, this hockey is more exciting than the era of the trap...which was just downright boring...and that was when fighting was still perfectly acceptable unlike nowadays.

tdchi


Mon Jan 9 2017 1:35 pm EST

E: Maybe so but the Rangers take the wusification to new low. They are the only team by my unofficial count, who never respond to cheap shots by the other team (ala Crosby punching McD and what's his nob running over the King). It'll look good on AV and the Rangers if/when one of those cheapshots result in a long term injury.

RF4L


Mon Jan 9 2017 12:59 pm EST

What does reined in even mean? I go to a lot of games between the Sharks and Ducks and I'll state this: if the game is tight, and a penalty can swing things you will see the Ducks reined in. And they love to fight. Reined in means disciplined. Glass wasn't reined in. Who fought around 7-10 a season Pretty much his whole NHL tenure. I get that we all think that the New York Rangers are not tough enough. I'm with you. But this deliberate pusification by a coach who is adverse to tough play is really just a fan fiction to me. He led the biggest bunch of petulant, dirty, assholes in Vancouver. But now he sees that winning means 4-lines. And if you're gonna be a rough and tumble player the premium is on being able to play. I'm with people. The New York Rangers are bland. Sometimes boring. No fireworks. Nothing that gets the hair on the back of your neck up. But it's a reality that is the NHL now. I'd love to see the New York Rangers get a guy who gets under people's nails. But who? Guys who can do this and actually take meaningful shifts are more and more a rarity. Do I think AV would stop a forward like Benn if he had him in the lineup from getting on people? Not at all. Not as long as in this "new" product he didn't go after some tool who will just turtle and giggle on his way to the box as Benn had an extra-2 tacked on. AV isn't leading the team away from toughness. The NHL is. Look at Pittsburgh? Won the cup with a bunch of flower picking, hallmark writing, ref cryers. The league sucks in its lack of desire to leave the one still pure sport alone and turn it into an overegulated product of frozen scum. And why should a player take a swing when for their troubles the ref penalizes them for the most absurd things. It's why I'm losing interest and develeloping a love/hate relationship with the game. If I want no physical play I can suit up for a game tonight with the rest of the +45 year olds and we can play and be at a meeting the next morning at eight.

E


Mon Jan 9 2017 12:50 pm EST

I'd hate to lose Grabner in the expansion draft. However, when we signed Grabner if you told me that he would become our "buffer" to losing any other player in the draft (i.e. Raanta) I would have been thrilled. While it's possible that Grabner may be entering a new phase in his career where he scores a ton of goals, it's also possible that this is an aberration year. And if I were LV, I would wonder if he could repeat that output under a different coach/system. Either way, let's hope he continues to light it up this year...

Ranger47


Mon Jan 9 2017 12:18 pm EST

GRABNER now has more goals than OV.

tdchi


Mon Jan 9 2017 12:18 pm EST

stevielegs - I don't disagree...but FWIW, MILLER kind of DID get the McI treatment. He was bounced in and out of the lineup...sent down, promoted...put on fourth line...promoted...and lo and behold, the kid is a good player now...For McI, certainly last year was a lost year...and with less than 10 games under his belt this year, it's looking like it'll be another lost year...I just think at some point, some of Mac's development or lack thereof has to fall on his shoulders...I personally don't believe his handling at the NHL level has made much of a difference...And had he played 82 games last year, I have a feeling the Rangers' plight wouldn't have changed dramatically...nor would have his...I think what is fair to say is that his skill set didn't fit AV's game plan and he couldn't adjust it so that it would...CLENDENING is a different story...his skill set is in the vain of what the Rangers need back there...but if he can't be consistent, then he won't play...I'm still not sold on him being a regular NHL blueliner...there's a reason he's bounced between so many teams and I would venture to guess consistency is that reason...and if that's the case, I think Clenny is probably getting more of the Miller treatment than the McI treatment...JMHO.

tdchi


Mon Jan 9 2017 12:07 pm EST

Ahhh, more ammunition for AV to re-pressbox Clendenning when Staal returns.

RF4L


Mon Jan 9 2017 11:52 am EST

Adam Clendening's second goal vs Columbus has been changed to Grabner's goal so it's a hat trick for him.

Fivehole


Mon Jan 9 2017 11:16 am EST

Wow...McILHINNEY waived...talk about throwing a guy under the bus...listened to the Columbus broadcast on Saturday and they couldn't speak any higher of him...Torts himself was singing his praises, only to drop kick him after the Ranger win...which, to be fair, wasn't all on McIlhinney...there were A LOT of other culprits in that game...Coach Doucherella though needed his scapegoat. What a loser.

tdchi


Mon Jan 9 2017 9:08 am EST

tdchi hard to prove who's opinion has more validity. if jitters got the big mac treatment, he might never had developed. big mac fell victim to injuries and having to be kept on the roster to avoid him being claimed. one more year in the ahl was probably the better road, but ass vipe basically pruchaed him instead of rotating him with giradi broken kneecap, and boyle on his retirement tour, and even Calvin Klein . the kid has a good shot from the point , but he needs more training and exposure to the nhl. he's a project that might succeed, but not guaranteed, with the proper handling. Some skating lessons would help too. there are lessons to be learned on how to develop a d man like him instead of making him a dinosaur. And the clendylan treatment has been similar. and probably will continue when Staal comes back. these situations are not purely emotional, but they are debatable. And not easily provable unless the player becomes a regular against the odds......

stevielegs


Mon Jan 9 2017 8:04 am EST

RF4L - If McI and YANDLE were such a good pairing, how come neither Gallant nor Rowe has saw it fit to reunite the two? And I'll also point out, it's not too difficult to look like a shutdown defenseman next to a guy who's middle name should be minus...The thing that perplexes me is that you seem to think it's personal and I don't think that's farther from the case...McI is a defensman who's development was stunted by two serious injuries and a tectonic shift in the game over two years that all but vanquished the big-bodied bruising style of play the Kings rode to a pair of cups...McI was a square piece in a round hole last season...and while I agree that I would have certainly rested GIRARDI and BOYLE much more, here's the rub: How much better were the Rangers with him in there instead of either? Answer: Marginally. Might have made the difference between one goal against every now and then...but the guy contributed next to no offense...So yeah, we agree to disagree. I can't argue logic into an argument based on emotion.

tdchi


Mon Jan 9 2017 7:25 am EST

A refresher course on the rules: 1) Each team is allowed to protect either eight skaters and one goaltender or seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender. 2) Players with no-move clauses must be protected unless they agree to waive that right. 3) First- and second-year pros and unsigned draft picks are exempt from claim. 4) Each team must expose one goaltender who is either under contract for 2017-18 or a restricted free agent who has received his qualifying offer. 5) Each team must expose one defenseman under contract for 2017-18 who played at least 40 games this season or 70 combined last year and this. 6) Each team must expose two forwards who meet the same criteria.

stevielegs


Mon Jan 9 2017 7:14 am EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/09/each-goal-by-rangers-revelation-is-an-expansion-draft-headache/

stevielegs


Mon Jan 9 2017 3:48 am EST

mf- Interesting topic on Clendenning! The problem with pairing him with McD is that AV basically uses our "1st" as a checking unit, they get the toughest match-ups. IE Steps line. If you make a shift and play McD -- with Clennndennning (his name is like Ulam Bator, that can be spelled with everything from 2 to like 6 a:s, but with n:s) -- on an unit with OZone starts, who do you play behind Step's unit? Staal-Holden? Skjei Holden? Holden-Skjei? Staal-Skjei? The thing is, putting a D pairing and unit out against the top lines in the league that has been able to play really well have from my POV probably been this team's biggest strength the last years.So many series are won by a team being able to create a crack in the armor of the other team and then just hammering away on that crack. Against the best in the East in the POs, can like Skjei-Holden really do what McD have been able to do? If not, I understand AV being hesitent to play McD with a 1 way D.

Ola


Sun Jan 8 2017 8:06 pm EST

Throw Clenny to the wolves, pair him with McDonagh and let him work thru his growing pains.... The kid is here now, we need him to succeed, put a little faith in the kid... jmo snatcherally

mf


Sun Jan 8 2017 5:38 pm EST

Clendening has put in a couple of good games in a row already...He was very good versus Philthy also....Agree with RF, after listening to AV's postgame comments he will sit if Staal can play Friday.....Why in the world would you sell short what Clendening did by mentioning another player?...The guy is douche....

PJ


Sun Jan 8 2017 4:47 pm EST

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 7h7 hours ago Tortorella bang on with self evaluation. http://nyp.st/2j4lKcU via @nypostsports

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 4:46 pm EST

Rick Carpiniello ‏@RickCarpiniello 19h19 hours ago That Rangers-Maple Leaves game, after both teams don't practice for five days, will be a steaming pile of garbage.

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 12:41 pm EST

BTW E, I concur that it would be nice to have the Rangers play with an edge. They don't and IMO that's because the coach doesn't want them to play that way. He wants a fast, skilled team that plays whistle to whistle and doesn't engage in nasty stuff. I guess from a results standpoint, it's difficult to argue against. But IMO, it'll come back to bite them when the POs come around (if not before). We'll see...

RF4L


Sun Jan 8 2017 12:37 pm EST

E: Glass was reigned in. Rarely, if ever, did he extract retribution for acts of intimidation perpetrated on his teammates in a reactive manner, as McI did when Stepan got his ribs cracked by that Bruin. More often than not Glass responded at the end of the game, when who was going to win was decided. When he was allowed to respond. AV had him well trained. All that said, I honestly don't get how anyone can defend AV's endless pressboxing of McI last year given the fact that when he did play (which was only because injuries forced AV's hand) he was solid AND both Boyle and Girardi were lousy far more often than not and should have been, in the very least, rotated as the 5th, 6th and 7th d-man.

RF4L


Sun Jan 8 2017 12:33 pm EST

That come from behind win last night was fabulous.........when the first couple went in on Hank again ,I was thinking oh no ,here we go again. But, he held his ground and to his credit ,he battled till the end. I did say last week that I was impressed with Clendenning, but I wasn't expecting this kind of input .AV has to start resting Klein and Girardi............... Clendenning is allowing him to do so. Speaking of that sort of thing...............does anyone else hear Grabner SCREAMING.........I believe he is saying......"play me more often and with better players and I will produce". I hope AV is listening !

Newfie_Ranger


Sun Jan 8 2017 12:26 pm EST

RF: then why did AV endlessly play Glass when he could've dressed someone else? Glass never saw a game where he wasn't looking to put hands on someone. And yet, if AV just wanted pussy hockey he wouldn't have let Glass near the lineup. My issue with the New York Rangers is the types of players that they have. From 1-4 they are very skilled. In fact, we can argue that it's the very depth that enabled the New York Rangers to push thru this injury bug. I just want a big, fast team that plays with an edge. I recognize that the days of fighting are just over. But for me it's almost more an entertainment thing. I just want emotion. The way someone will spray a goalie with snow and both teams will just skate away after the whistle is maddening. And most teams in the NHL play this way. To be sure that isn't going to happen with the Ducks. But how many points in the standings has it gotten them??? Just waxing...

E


Sun Jan 8 2017 11:34 am EST

TD: I really don't want to get into another McI vs AV argument but feel compelled here to say I totally disagree with your stance. AV's treatment of McI last year was shameful IMO when you consider how poorly Boyle and G played and what McI brings to the table - a very discernible level of physicality and intimidation. IMO, it's the latter that AV does not want on his team so he simply refused to dress McI unless he had no other choice. What is so annoying to me is how solid McI was for several of the games he did get into, especially when paired with Yandle yet back to the pressbox he went when a clearly inferior Girardi was available.

RF4L


Sun Jan 8 2017 11:19 am EST

I don't think McI even got the 'McI treatment' so to speak. The guy never brought enough to the table to warrant being in the lineup...the only argument that seems to be pushed around is that McI was at least better than BOYLE and GIRARDI, which while true at times, is also not necessarily a justification for a spot in the lineup....I think AV's take on young players is that you've got to personally show you belong in the lineup, not that you're better than another guy on a given night...Like take PUEMPEL and JENSEN...Puempel, even when he wasn't scoring, showed flashes of offense...drove to the net hard he was getting chances and making plays...JENSEN, OTOH, now has had two very nondescript stints with the Rangers...not that he's done anything bad...played a very serviceable game...did a yeoman's job...but what did he do to deserve a spot? I can't think of one play where he really stood out...so how did that play out? Puempel played well enough that JOORIS is now on the Coyotes and Jensen is in Hartford. Is it because AV has a thing for Puempel and is giving Jensen the 'McI treatment?' Nah...And with Clendening...before last night, the best I could say for the guy was that he has a nice first pass out of the zone and plays a pretty nondescript game. Didn't wow on the PP. Didn't show much of any offensive prowess. But not a single game where I could say 'this guy belongs.' Last night was that game. If he can put together a couple of those and still can't get into the lineup, I'll be much more receptive to this idea that AV plays favorites.

tdchi


Sun Jan 8 2017 11:17 am EST

according to him he thinks the vets led the charge in the locker room and on the ice between the 2nd and the 3rd. ....

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 11:10 am EST

What it comes down to is AV is a pussy and doesn't have the balls to sit Girardi, Staal or Klein over Clendenning. He started to grow a pair when he started Raanta over Hank for that stretch of games but his ex-wife must have taken them back. We shall see what happens but my gut says he goes back to the usual suspects on D as soon as he can. God forbid he trys to rest some of his vets for the playoffs.

NYStranger


Sun Jan 8 2017 10:31 am EST

That comeback epic win against CBJ on the road last night, for some reason reminded me of the epic Grateful Dead Englistown NJ blur. Talk about speed, Mike Grabner has Lear Jets on those skates of his. Rest of team continue normal practicing, Mike Grabner just do break-aways, wow! I want to know who sharpened his skates?

Jerry_Garcia


Sun Jan 8 2017 10:10 am EST

TD: No, McI is a different player altogether. He got the same treatment as Clendenning tho. It will be interesting to watch how AV handles this once Staal returns. Dollars to peanuts if Staal is healthy when the break is over, Clendenning is in the pressbox. We'll see....

RF4L


Sun Jan 8 2017 10:07 am EST

RF4L - McI never had a game like CLENDENING did last night.

tdchi


Sun Jan 8 2017 9:59 am EST

stevie: That quote from the coach on Clendenning is exactly the muted praise he gave McI...what an ass he is sometimes.

RF4L


Sun Jan 8 2017 9:58 am EST

RF73: McD reminds me a lot in terms of his controlled emotions of Chris Dreary when he was the Ranger captain. It's ok to smile dude - it's ok to show anger dude. I don't get it.

RF4L


Sun Jan 8 2017 9:46 am EST

Meant to add, if it does happen, it'll end after the first game Clendenning doesn't play well.

RF4L


Sun Jan 8 2017 9:46 am EST

I have zero expectations of Clendenning in with KK or G sitting.

RF4L


Sun Jan 8 2017 9:02 am EST

What a Fuck-en great comeback game last night. One of the best games I have seen in a long long time, pure entertainment. Michael Grabner's break away goal was pure speed and execution. After that goal I said Carl Haglen who? Speed Kills!

Jerry_Garcia


Sun Jan 8 2017 8:30 am EST

Great giveaway by jones to tgo grabher to get the winning goal. ....https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/nyr--cbj/t-277437422/c-48181503

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 8:29 am EST

Re: CLENDNENING - I think we have our case study now...if Clenny can string together a couple games like last night and STILL ends up back in the press box, then I'll start to believe this business of him playing favorites in an irrational way...I still think he's a coach that wants his young players to earn their ice...and that he's not going to put an unproven player in for a vet based solely on the virtue of that vet playing poorly....regardless, I think he's earned himself a longer look. If he can play like he did last night, he'll be in this lineup.

tdchi


Sun Jan 8 2017 8:28 am EST

Bob I heard that call last night by Lagreca and played it like 10 times it's so funny. The scream that I believe was Maloney sounded like the scream from Daniel Stern in home alone when the kid put the spider on his chest.

tlats


Sun Jan 8 2017 8:19 am EST

RF4L - Should note that the Jackets are facing Philly today, so there's a chance Torts is doing BOBROVSKY a favor, letting him face his former team...then again, they rode Bobo for something like 15 of those 16 wins in a row, so if I were to guess, Torts massively underestimated his opponent. Or overestimated his own team...again, watching that game, it's clearer to me now more than ever that Columbus lives and dies with Bobrovsky...make no mistake, they're a TOUGH team...and MAN, do I wish the Rangers could have landed Seth JONES. That guy is just a beast. He in WERENSKI are(and arguably are already) a dominant pairing as good as any in the league...but for a team as young as they are, they simply tuckered out...the first period was played almost exclusively in the Rangers' end...but it was like they went into cruise mode after going up 4-1. Big mental mistake...It'd be easy to assume this was McELHINNEY's fault, but the shots he let in were either laser beams, on breakaways or after pronounced spells in the Jackets' zone. In other words, I wouldn't be quick to pin the loss on him...interesting stat: McElhinney had a better GAA than Bobrovsky heading into the game(1.90)...not any more...

tdchi


Sun Jan 8 2017 8:08 am EST

https://m.facebook.com/groups/164777220234923?view=permalink&id=1332327383479895&ref=m_notif&notif_t=group_highlights

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 8:06 am EST

Interesting irony’s in last night’s game…It is usually the Rangers who give up “1st goals” halfway through the season (they did give up a 2nd; first in 25 games)…but they had two guys get their 1st’s in Lindberg & Clendening…(Clendening increased his CAREER goal totals by 100% with the 2 goals last night)

RF73


Sun Jan 8 2017 7:47 am EST

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/mcdonagh-on-win-vs-blue-jackets/t-277437422/c-48184903

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 7:46 am EST

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/vigneault-on-win-in-columbus/t-277437422/c-48184003

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 7:45 am EST

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/hear-radio-call-of-grabners-gwg/t-277437422/c-48188003

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 7:29 am EST

" no doubt happy for him but more happy for the team and grabner used his speed..."... guy gets the broadway hat and the coach discounts it and talks about the other star of the game.... sound and look familiar? ....moof clendylan....

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 7:13 am EST

The Rangers assigned Niklas Jensen to Hartford.

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 7:12 am EST

The Rangers’ Pavel Buchnevich, who scored in his AHL debut Friday, was held out of Saturday’s Wolf Pack match against Bridgeport but is expected to play in Providence on Sunday. “He came out of the game with no pain,” Rangers coach Alain Vigneault said of the rookie, who has been sidelined with disk and core issues since Nov. 12. “They didn’t want him to go-back-to-back, but he’s playing the next one.”

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 7:11 am EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/08/young-talent-solid-structure-stoke-maple-leafs-cup-dream/

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 7:08 am EST

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/video/vigneault-on-win-in-columbus/t-277437422/c-48184003

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 6:42 am EST

when staal gets back, clen goes back into the stands ala big mac.....he's #7 in the coach's mind, he's the boss.....

stevielegs


Sun Jan 8 2017 6:37 am EST

McDoody interviewed after the game...absolutely no emotion...you would have thought they had lost the game...He gets added to my list of people who have successfully undergone a charisma bypass.

RF73


Sun Jan 8 2017 1:04 am EST

TD: Amazing what can happen when you give an endlessly pressbox player a chance, eh??

RF4L


Sun Jan 8 2017 1:01 am EST

So the BJs use their backup goalie against the Rangers.....interesting...

RF4L


Sun Jan 8 2017 12:41 am EST

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/patrik-laine-destroyed-on-hit-line-brawl-ensues-vs-sabres-video-205247496.html

mf


Sun Jan 8 2017 12:32 am EST

If you haven't, take the time to listen to the LaGreca/Maloney call of the winning goal. It s hysterical, especially Maloney when the puck goes in.

Bob


Sat Jan 7 2017 11:53 pm EST

puckyou - I'd be floored if CLENDENING is scratched the next game. I think his teammates would too. Kid has a game like that, you play him. Always play the hot hand.

tdchi


Sat Jan 7 2017 11:49 pm EST

On the game: Think the Jackets showed their youth there...and to be a fly on the wall at their next practice...They came out like a cannon ball and then laid back after they went up three...was listening to the Jackets' feed and their announcers called it...basically said 'don't give the Rangers an inch because they'll take a mile.' I kind of snorted at that one, but lo and behold...four goals later...Tell you what: Taking a come-from-behind win against hottest team in the NHL and being without three of your top forwards and a top-four defenseman? That right there is guts. You guys can bag on McDONAGH and cast the Rangers as a bunch of Sallys if you want...but that win took balls. Big brass ones...CLENDENING just earned himself some ice. STAAL or not, he's gotta be in the next game. If Staal is in, the GIRARDI or KLEIN sits...Guy had an incredible game....was the only blueliner really jumping into the play. Tell you what: I'd pair him with HOLDEN and move from there...GRABNER...what else is there to say? Having the fastest forward in the NHL pays dividends...I don't know how the F Toronto managed to waste him so much, but he's an asset. His acceleration is just off the charts...there's no catching him after two steps...Dare I say, he's faster than HAGELIN. Soundly too...Good to see KRIEDER mixing it up. He's another reason I wouldn't be so quick to call the Rangers soft. Guy is becoming the player he was expected to be when he was drafted....HANK wasn't good in the first...one of the goals was legit...the PP goal...but the first was soft...he hunkered down for the last half of the game and kept them in it....Think TORTORELLA got a little out-coached...Torts started his backup, banking on Philly being the tougher team of the weekend...and it's not a horrible assumption, the Rangers down an entire top line and one top blueliner...but man, did he underestimate them....kept his stupid 'safe is death' play going despite McELHINNEY getting tuned for three...stupid, stupid, stupid...especially since other teams have so effectively trapped the Rangers...but no, Torts did a run-and-gun for three straight periods, never thinking that he was going up against the fastest team in the NHL...Same old Torts...BOBROVSKY is making him look good...that and the fact that the average age of the Jackets is about 24...Torts again shows his utter inability to adjust...has to go one way at fulll-speed....that's why when BoBo goes down, he's gonna be up shits creek with a turd for a paddle...The only thing that surprised me more than the Rangers' come-from-behind win was how mediocre the Jackets looked compared to their hype.

tdchi


Sat Jan 7 2017 11:35 pm EST

puck: Staal is out with an upper body injury & listed day to day... Rangers have something like 5 days off, so plenty of time to heal & rest...... In spite of all that, they should get this kid some game-time IMO

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 11:30 pm EST

I said a few times on this wall, Grabner was a great replacement for Hags- he is Hagelin with better hands and a more north/south game than Hags has. I liked Hagelin, but Grabner is a perfect cap replacement- saving 2.5 mm .AV-Please sit Klein and let Clendening get 4-5 games to show his stuff.

puckyou


Sat Jan 7 2017 11:25 pm EST

In the "Battle for the Basement," Arizona beats the Isles.....

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 11:17 pm EST

Best win in a long time.....Made my night...Sorry Torts.....

PJ


Sat Jan 7 2017 11:08 pm EST

My bad guys. Was thinking GRABNER was a one-year contract 'cause of the expansion draft and there's probably a very slim chance he gets protected...wonder if he was injured in Toronto...because he's lights out now...this is the player who score 30 for the Isles. Great signing. Hope he stays with us.

tdchi


Sat Jan 7 2017 10:17 pm EST

sjw: Bobby Holik

Pierre10


Sat Jan 7 2017 10:11 pm EST

Clem Kadiddlehopper

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 10:08 pm EST

Almost the same hat ....https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4F-jeIdQwKY

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 10:08 pm EST

Tradestar28 opened his mouth and Fast/Lindberg & Co shoved their cocks down his throat faster then he can say Jackie Robinson! OWNZZZUHH, OWNZZZUHH!

Pierre10


Sat Jan 7 2017 10:01 pm EST

At the halfway mark .. without ? Grabner is the best value FA signing this off season league wide, fits perfectly into our style.. Can anyone recall a better value Ranger FA signing ??

sjw


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:58 pm EST

SLegs, like the captain is going to disobey the coach! ? g.m.a.b. Now help with a nickname for this Clamidia Kid

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:55 pm EST

mf...That show really BLOWS. LMAO! !

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:54 pm EST

Please tell me why mcdoodie is the captain of this team ? ... follow him you lose ....he's a pansy ... ass vipe ass kisser ....

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:50 pm EST

Just checked, Michael Grabner is signed thru the end of next season at $1.65 mill per

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:50 pm EST

Just checked, Michael Grabner is signed thru the end of next season at $1.625 mill per

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:46 pm EST

Hows that new MSG show?

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:46 pm EST

Grabner signed a 2 year contract. I will admit it..I was hoping for just a point..figured it would go to OT and they would lose or lose in the shoot out.

DOUBLEN


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:45 pm EST

IMO they need to play this Clendenning kid more and give him a chance.. especially in this wacky season with the expansion draft.... This kid needs a nickname: AC ? Clementine ?

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:43 pm EST

Semi miracle on ice

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:42 pm EST

Nice comeback after sleepwalking the first 25 minutes... Jackets got a bit of a whobble there in the third .. and we took advantage.. Clendening stays in and I like his effort and play on the PP .. one trick pony Pirri has faded

sjw


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:41 pm EST

I thought we had Grabner signed till 2018?

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:39 pm EST

I screamed SCORE so loud both of my dogs ran out of our TV room. Bawawawawawaw! !!

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:38 pm EST

......tell me again how we don't protect Grabner in the expansion draft........

MelvilleFred


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:38 pm EST

Pretty amazing 3rd period. Of course, it was against Curtis McIlhenny but 2 points on the road is always good.

Bob


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:38 pm EST

Cbj two game losing streak make it 16

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:37 pm EST

I love that guy....what a gamer

WIOSA


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:36 pm EST

Smoked-a-rella !!!! Take the 2 in this defensive juggernaut .....

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:36 pm EST

Torts must be crying now

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:35 pm EST

Give that man a contract extension now.

tdchi


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:35 pm EST

What a goal by Grabner unbelievable

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:34 pm EST

MVP!!! Grabner

rngrsans


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:34 pm EST

Grabbedher by the Balls

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:34 pm EST

Holy shit

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:28 pm EST

Loving Skei's game

rngrsans


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:28 pm EST

Keep Girardi off the ice V!!!

rngrsans


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:26 pm EST

RF4L- you know that game guys on the outside need to play to get in the inside? CLENDENING aid having it. Goals aside, he's being great. He's earned more ice.

tdchi


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:24 pm EST

GOOOAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:24 pm EST

We've got a ballgame.... and a RHS defenseman. 24.5 y/o, cap friendly

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:23 pm EST

Now win this fucker

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:22 pm EST

Clen sucks

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:08 pm EST

Where the hell was this effort the first two periods?

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:05 pm EST

all 3 goals were top corners. 2 glove side, 1 stick side

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:05 pm EST

Play this Clendenning kid more!

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:04 pm EST

Keep testing this goalie

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:03 pm EST

Bobby CLENDENNING Orr

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:03 pm EST

Thats what I am talking about

rngrsans


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:02 pm EST

GOOOAAALLL

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:02 pm EST

Let's gooooo

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:02 pm EST

Clemdem

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:01 pm EST

SHOOT The puck

rngrsans


Sat Jan 7 2017 9:00 pm EST

ok, PP Rangers

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:57 pm EST

The player I try and dangle for some D is Zuccarello

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:54 pm EST

Phone a friend: Gorton.....you aint getting out of the 1st round with this D

rngrsans


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:45 pm EST

Thank you sir

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:40 pm EST

tlats that is a great point.His lack of tenacity is infectious

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:32 pm EST

Who has mcdoodie ever come to the aid of? His gloves are glued on.

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:31 pm EST

Lou I just think they follow their pussy captains lead

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:31 pm EST

Think mcdoodie just shit his pants with Jenner... what a captain no balls ...

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:30 pm EST

The only team that does not come to the aid if their captain

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:18 pm EST

Well said by Rosen get well Officer McDonald you are an inspiration

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:13 pm EST

Bob somebody has to help mcdoodie

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:10 pm EST

AV's adjustment was moving Girardi back up to first pair D. I am not making this up.

Bob


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:10 pm EST

Nice shot by Grabner

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:10 pm EST

Tgo grabher

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:09 pm EST

FUCKING. HEARTLESS.

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:09 pm EST

Pull stanky now ass vipe

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:08 pm EST

Torts must be laughing his ass off

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:08 pm EST

So since eventually ass vipe will have more wibs than talkerella for the nyr ... who's more stubborn?

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 8:05 pm EST

Coaching adjustment? Here come the white hankies in surrender.....

mf


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:47 pm EST

Out scored, out hit, intimidated by the Columbus Blue jackets. Wake the fuck up

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:47 pm EST

Curious to see the coaching adjustments by AV if any.

stepunmytoe


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:46 pm EST

At this point I would rather have Calvin Klein.

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:43 pm EST

Kreider jumps on the bench like a big pooooosy

TradeStar28


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:41 pm EST

I get the Girardi decline, but what on earth is up with Kevin Klein? Bad enough having to cover up for one horrid d-man. 2 is more than they can overcome.

Bob


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:41 pm EST

I used to be a Klein supporter but that was brutal. Why can't you see that you need to get the puck out quick cause they are fast and can forecheck well....Instead you skate it out....oh wait....no you turn it over

rngrsans


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:38 pm EST

I meant the Rangers

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:38 pm EST

Come on boys get another

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:35 pm EST

Oscar Oscar Oscar! !!!!!!!

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:34 pm EST

I have to agree with E. Was at the Ducks game against the Duke and the Coyotes last night. The Ducks need a winger badly. But the Rangers are not getting Vatanen or Fowler for anything any of us would be willing to give up.

Bob


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:34 pm EST

Stanky CHEESE

stepunmytoe


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:32 pm EST

Did they replace Kevin Klein with Kevin Kline from A Fish Called Wanda fame?

TradeStar28


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:31 pm EST

throw a pair of SuperTacs on Beukeboom and let him replace Klein

TradeStar28


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:30 pm EST

2 goals against and 3 penalties already, 12 minutes in to the game. These guys are thinking about the vacation that starts after this game instead of applying themselves to the task.

Bob


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:29 pm EST

Hrivic Jensen Fast Lindberg and Pirri.......I rather fuckin see York18 and a few of his Dungeon & Dragon buddies on the ice than these hacks

TradeStar28


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:28 pm EST

fuckin HRIVIC? thats the best we got? holy shit

TradeStar28


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:25 pm EST

Dan fuckin Girardi......loves to drop to his knees like a 2 dollar whore

TradeStar28


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:23 pm EST

Henrik is a lil prima donna because his teammates are a bunch of twats around his crease

TradeStar28


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:23 pm EST

Said it earlier today. Worried how we were to deal with their PP. Here comes another.

stepunmytoe


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:22 pm EST

The blue jackasses play team tough like the 2014 Cup winning LA Kings........The rangers are the biggest pussy team ever and play like a bunch of Euro prancers. Bring in atleast one guy that has some fuckin snarl....and please don't say Tanner fuckin Glass

TradeStar28


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:20 pm EST

What the FU@K

rangerlou


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:17 pm EST

What a crap start to this game. they better wake up fast

tlats


Sat Jan 7 2017 7:17 pm EST

Way to go Mc doodie and stanky hanky ...

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 6:30 pm EST

I don't see Vatanen going and Fowler's price tag will likely start with Buch and either JT or Chris Krieder. And that's just too rich for my tastes. They may look to add a bottom-6 vet or a defenseman but I wouldn't imagine they're gonna shake too many cages before summer.

E


Sat Jan 7 2017 5:20 pm EST

"Friedman Examines Expensive Trade Market for Defensemen" via http://TeamStre.am by Bleacher Report http://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/friedman-examines-expensive-nhl-trade-market-defensemen

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 5:18 pm EST

Adrian Dater Adrian Dater – Verified account ‏@adater Duchene and Landeskog remain firmly on trade block, but price is high. Sakic getting multiple offers though. Fluid situation

stevielegs


Sat Jan 7 2017 3:33 pm EST

RF4L - just thinking aloud, I can't see Gorton rolling into the POs without a significant move...and I think any move on D will mean KLEIN ends up in a new ZIP code....but whatever team they're gonna work a deal with might also not be a team where Klein fits, so they might have two balls in the air...one to acquire a top four defender...ideally but not likely someone who DOESN'T need to be protected...and another to move Klein to clear cap space...so you end up with the chicken and the egg...which comes first...logic would say you don't move Klein until you have a replacement...then you move him to the highest bidder...with BUCH in Hartford, the Rangers are at around $4.2 million below the cap...that opens up a lot of options, especially if you consider a forward is likely to be headed the other way in any move they do...so it's easy to see a scenario where they would grab a guy like Dougie HAMILTON...and then flip Klein for picks to replace whatever prospects/picks they lose to get him...the deal I have mulling in my head would be to grab Jordan SUBBAN and Jake VIRTANEN from the Canucks...probably would take a decent haul to get them both and there's no guarantee Subban could jump to the NHL...though he is having a stupendous year in Utica...could see him being what GOSTISBEHERE was to the Flyers last season...but I've heard the more likely scenario is they pull a deal with Anaheim for either FOWLER or VATANEN....just musing...probably will end up with Denis Wideman...

tdchi


Sat Jan 7 2017 3:30 pm EST

Marc Staal..... PLZ upper body injury is NOT a concussion... one thing that I think Wallsters miss is that Staal is the NYRs BEST defenseman during the playoffs... including McD... he elevates his game when it counts the most.... just sayin'

schneidw


Sat Jan 7 2017 12:53 pm EST

Looking forward to this game more than any this year. If the boys ain't ready tonight they will get blown out of the barn. Curious to see how physical Jackets are going to play it and the Rangers response to it. Also want to see how we do on the penalty kill and defend the 1-3-1 power play of Columbus. I think AV will have to do his best coaching job of the year to come out with a win tonight. Can't wait.

stepunmytoe


Sat Jan 7 2017 12:22 pm EST

TD...suspect Buch won't stay down there long if he scores regularly. Like you I'm hoping Gorton is working on a deal for defense. The fly in the ointment is the pending expansion draft. McD and Staal will eat 2 of the 3 spots. Girardi will have to be bought out. Holden gets exposed. Maybe KK goes in whatever deal goes down (or in a separate smaller trade). Should be interesting....

RF4L


Sat Jan 7 2017 11:59 am EST

That's awful, BTW, about Steve McDonald. The guy is only 59. Truly a great guy. Here's hoping he battles through, but the reports don't sound good.

tdchi


Sat Jan 7 2017 11:56 am EST

RF4L - FWIW, all of those Pack losses were tight games. Think all of them were one goal games. The Pack have improved defensively. Now they need their offense to kick in. Buch will definitely help them in that regard. His goal last night...man...just shows you how bad he's going to abuse these goalies...his release is so quick...Kid belongs nowhere near the AHL...but his presence there will be a coup for the Pack...maybe even mutually beneficial.

tdchi


Sat Jan 7 2017 10:58 am EST

reht0ric - Certainly I wouldn't be surprised if it's just lengthy stay for BUCH, but the popular rumor is that Gorton has been somewhat actively shopping around for a blueliner...and I wouldn't blame him after seeing what happens to this team when you weaken them up the middle.

tdchi


Fri Jan 6 2017 11:07 pm EST

Just getting around to watching some of the WJC games.... a few thoughts.. this is AWESOMELY entertaining hockey.. better than any NHL game I have watched in awhile.... Canadian fans have packed the Bell Center... great crowd, great support, great venue... ONLY disappointment is where are the NYR prospects???!!!.. Chabot is gonna be a sick NHL player...

schneidw


Fri Jan 6 2017 10:12 pm EST

The Pack eek out a 2 to 1 win and Buch scores the team's first goal. Very nice...

RF4L


Fri Jan 6 2017 9:38 pm EST

Buchnevich needs more than the usual 14 days of conditioning, that's why he was assigned instead of loaned (plus, options!)

Rhet0ric


Fri Jan 6 2017 8:43 pm EST

NJ Devils suck. 4 0 after one for the Leafs...

RF4L


Fri Jan 6 2017 6:58 pm EST

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 6h6 hours ago Buchnevich will be in lineup tonight at Hartford v Lehigh Valley. 0 replies 7 retweets 2 likes Reply Retweet 7 Like 2 More Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 6h6 hours ago Actually, Buchnevich has been sent to Hartford but not on conditioning assignment. Thus off roster and cap.

stevielegs


Fri Jan 6 2017 6:57 pm EST

PIX11 News @PIX11News NYPD Det. Steven McDonald, paralyzed for over 30 years after shooting, suffers heart attack http://via.pix11.com/dykA4

stevielegs


Fri Jan 6 2017 4:23 pm EST

Rick Carpiniello ‏@RickCarpiniello 2h2 hours ago Rangers assigned Pavel Buchnevich to Hartford (AHL) where he will play during the off-week (note I didn't use the asinine "bye").

stevielegs


Fri Jan 6 2017 4:23 pm EST

The Pack with BUCHENVICH is going to be a different team. He's going to eat the AHL goalies for breakfast, lunch, dinner and a midnight snack. Suspect he'll only be down this weekend, but who knows? The more interesting part of this equation is that the Rangers pulled Buch off their cap. Gives them an extra $1 million to play with...with Z on the IR, they now have about $4 million...Gorton could be getting ready for a move next week. And if they need an extra million to play with, it could be a big one.

tdchi


Fri Jan 6 2017 4:13 pm EST

RF4L - Chabot and White joining the Sens...if they can find a tender or drag Anderson to the fountain of youth, that team is going to be very competitive soon.

tdchi


Fri Jan 6 2017 4:10 pm EST

On a related note...When Olympic hockey went from quasi-amateur to professional, I remember being psyched the U.S. would finally have a chance...and even Canada too...the Soviets had absolutely dominated the games...but today, I question why the Olympics can't be more like the WJCs...just no-holds-barred hockey...it's not to say the professionals dog it...but the WJCs are just so much better...no idea how you stop countries from not enlisting professionals, but man...it'd give so much more gravity to the games if it were these young athletes performing instead of the grizzled veterans.

tdchi


Fri Jan 6 2017 4:08 pm EST

TD: Agreed. It's huge here in Canada and the biggest reason many of the tourneys are here - lots of tickets and $$ generated for all national hockey programs. For sure a win-win. Yes it's a shame there is so little interest in the US because as you say, so much of it is absolutely fabulous hockey and played the way the game should be played. It's wonderful to see because 1) the collective high end skill 2) the passion 3) the pace 4) the intensity 5) the emotion and 6) the continual mistakes that occur because these are teenagers after all and more often than not, those mistakes create chances and isn't that what it's all about? Scoring chances?

RF4L


Fri Jan 6 2017 3:59 pm EST

limbo - BINGO! I gotta be honest, I actually like WJC hockey better than 99 percent of the NHL games...The tournament is like one giant, booming crescendo...so that by the time you get to the medal rounds the hockey is just off the charts good. Kids are just playing on overdrive...200 percent...not a single one of the dogs, dives or does any of the prima dona BS that drags professional hockey down....the pace is always lightning fast...never seen a final that I didn't like...I mean, I dislike Canada and Russia with some pretty unbridled passion in the WJCs...but even a matchup between them I watch because you just never know what's going to happen...teams with the right blend of heart, talent and strategy win the gold...can't loaf your way into one...and loafing, as some Canadian, US, Russian and Swedish squads have found, will quickly land you on the outside looking in...Seriously, it's hockey how hockey should be played...and it's a real shame that media markets in the US don't even give it a sniff...no NHL Network? No WJCs...it's a real shame these kids didn't get a bigger audience...they deserved the world for what they did against Canada and Russia.

tdchi


Fri Jan 6 2017 2:32 pm EST

Newf: LOL...for sure. I do wanna go back...the geography is stunning and I found it particularly amazing realizing most of what I was looking at hasn't changed in a million+ years. Rugged but beautiful coast lines.

RF4L


Fri Jan 6 2017 2:14 pm EST

Don't you love how the Daily Snooze and the Post always have the same article on the Rangers each day? Ha

NYStranger


Fri Jan 6 2017 1:39 pm EST

RF4L..........Holy Shit Man...........let me know the next time you visit ! I'm sure we can figure out some way on here to hook up and have a couple "cold ones". heck, I'll meet you at the airport with a sign .........LOL.

Newfie_Ranger


Fri Jan 6 2017 1:33 pm EST

CBJ lost makes next Ranger game harder for the Rangers!

Jerry_Garcia


Fri Jan 6 2017 1:32 pm EST

BTW, spent a week in your province in early July, vacationing with friends. My first time in NFLD. We rented a house just outside St Johns, overlooking a little bay where we were hoping to see the caplan (I think that's the fish) run - alas they came in early in the last morning we were there, so we missed them. Saw icebergs and whales, though. The weather was so-so but the food and people are great. I loved it.

RF4L


Fri Jan 6 2017 1:32 pm EST

Newf you get to see buekbitch in action. Good sign he's able to start playing again.

stevielegs


Fri Jan 6 2017 1:29 pm EST

newf: Looking forward to it. They played a couple of games against the Leaf farm team in early December - I PVR'd both but only got to watch about 1 period and didn't get a good handle on anything in particular. They looked okay but nothing stood out, good or bad. I noticed the speed of the 2 Swedes but they didn't accomplish anything of note in terms of offense.

RF4L


Fri Jan 6 2017 1:27 pm EST

stevie: Yes with little pertaining to Sather's hockey acumen. He sucks.

RF4L


Fri Jan 6 2017 1:12 pm EST

Buchbitch sent for conditioning...https://mobile.twitter.com/WolfPackAHL

stevielegs


Fri Jan 6 2017 12:54 pm EST

is that chicken little ?

stevielegs


Fri Jan 6 2017 12:17 pm EST

RF4L..........Well, I've got tickets for next weekend's games here in St.john's against the IceCaps................I guess I'll see first hand just how bad they really are.............I'm planning on reporting in here to the Wall after each game.

Newfie_Ranger


Fri Jan 6 2017 12:12 pm EST

After winning a few games, the Hartford Crappack have lost 4 in a row and are languishing at the bottom of the entire league. Offensively, they're 17th overall and defensively last. Chickens are starting to roost, that's for sure....

RF4L


Fri Jan 6 2017 11:55 am EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/06/the-rangers-encouraging-trait-that-is-an-antidote-to-ugly-losses/

stevielegs


Fri Jan 6 2017 9:53 am EST

Bob: Chabot is Senator property - imagine him and Karlsson together? Geesh...

RF4L


Fri Jan 6 2017 12:18 am EST

I say this every year......I love the WJC. Simply the most entertaining hockey of the year played by kids full of emotion and drive. Thrilled that the USA won in a hostile arena, but always admire Team Canada. The depth on that club is sick and the defenseman Chabot is a stud.

Bob


Fri Jan 6 2017 12:06 am EST

TD: No one (I think) is saying Bozie is better. The argument is that they are similar players and I concur. I have watched a ton of Leaf games (alas, until lately not very happily) and stand by this statement: Bozak is under-rated in large part because he played with Kessel and didn't put up huge numbers. That's because in large part he was that line's defensive conscious - his 2-way game is on par with Stepan's without a doubt. He's a better FO man and more physical. Stepan is beter offensively I'll accept but hardly by a large margin.

RF4L


Fri Jan 6 2017 12:00 am EST

limbo....just to be clear - there are plenty of zzzzzzzzz games, especially in the prelimarily rounds because half the teams suck due to minimal talent. But there are plenty of games like this, depending on match-ups and more often than not when it comes to the elimination rounds, you get this more often than not. Teenager hockey when it comes to the best of the best is unique because of the combination of skill, passion and so many times lack of the discipline we see at the pro level. Half of the excitement in these games occurs because a player makes a mistake that you simply don't see very often at the pro level. The result is exciting chaos. I've been watching this tourney for years and rarely does it fail to entertain....

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:58 pm EST

said the same last night on FB ...lame to settle a championship by a shoot out .. after a terrific game.. let the kids settle it on the ice...

sjw


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:54 pm EST

RF4L - I don't think I've ever seen a world junior game before. Wow. I mean, really wow! Just awesome hockey. If most games are like this, I'm all in for next year.

limbo


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:47 pm EST

C'mon RF. BOZAK? Better than STEPAN? I'll remind you and mf that Step never had KESSEL and JVR on his wings. And I don't know how goaltending comes into the mix with this comparisson. BOZAK was an underrated player who. Exams very overrated and hasn't lived up to a bit of his hype. He's a great third line center and an adequate second line center. That's it. Guy hasn't topes 50 points in his career.

tdchi


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:43 pm EST

Yeah, I don't know why the F the WJCs have to involve a shootout...especially in the gold medal game. Sort of shitty to put the hopes of a nation on one player...feel real bad for the Canadian goalie, because he played his heart out...but PARSONS was lights out. Probably the best performance by a US goalie I've seen. Maybe GIBSON in 2013... but he just kept this team in...Charlie McAVOY? Kid is lights out...gonna be Boston's Brian Leetch...Ottawa too has a very bright future in Colin WHITE and Thomas CHABOT...latter played 43 minutes(!!)...KELLER was in in invisible in the last game, but he's another guy who is going places...just an immense talent...on the other end of the spectrum...MAN what happened to Dylan STROME?! Kid was flat-out awful in a tournament where he should have dominated. Kid should have been owning...me thinks he could be even more of a bust than his brother...Matt BARZAL too...just a no-show. Canada was a lot tougher than I thought they'd be...but the abscence of those two really sank the team. This tourney should have been a hole-in-one for either them Or Sweden.

tdchi


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:39 pm EST

Great championship game - it's a shame it had to be won via a shoot-out but those are the rules. Agreed that McAvoy was great. Lots of these kids were great BTW. For those who don't watch but love the sport, I say this: Watch next year - it's absolutely fabulous hockey.

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:37 pm EST

Congrats to USA on the gold medal win. Really good game from what I understand, didnt get to see it all.

WIOSA


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:35 pm EST

mf: IMO your take on Bozak is accurate.

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:27 pm EST

Charlie McAvoy .......Born to Charles and Jennifer McAvoy, McAvoy grew up in Long Beach, New York with older sister Kayla and younger sisters Holly and Heather. He also is the owner of an English Mastiff, Mack. He attended Long Beach High School for one year before moving to Pioneer High School in Ann Arbor, Michigan when he joined the USA Hockey developmental team.[7] McAvoy grew up a New York Rangers fan and says he was a big fan of defenseman Brian Leetch.[7] He also has named current Rangers defenseman Ryan McDonagh as a favorite, and says he tries to emulate Colorado Avalanche defenseman Tyson Barrie.

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:25 pm EST

suck it Tom Renney

TradeStar28


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:22 pm EST

Great game an all time classic

tlats


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:21 pm EST

YES!!!!!!!!!

Vic


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:15 pm EST

Too bad this is going to a shootout. It has been a terrific game.

Vic


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:02 pm EST

IMO The problem with the contracts are more the nmc/ntc's than the dollar & terms.. This year the expansion draft has really brought light on this..

mf


Thu Jan 5 2017 10:51 pm EST

I think the salary problem is more team wide than saying Stepan alone or Nash alone has a bad contract. If we had maybe two bad contracts out of Stepan, Nash, Lundqvist, Girardi, Staal then I don't think we are talking about this so much. Sather's legacy, and let's hope NOT Gortens fisherman's legacy as well.

NYStranger


Thu Jan 5 2017 10:46 pm EST

look out, here come the scintilla's! please don't make me go research the goal-tending comparisons nor the defensive squads for the last 7 years.. Stepan was clearly on a roster that was beginning to uptrend, and Toronto was making their way to high 1st round draft picks... your move! ;-)

mf


Thu Jan 5 2017 10:33 pm EST

mf - sorry bud. That's an assertion that simply can't be backed up with a scintilla of evidence. BOZAK has had a host of snipers on his wings and hasn't put up squat for numbers. He's better at face offs, that's about it. STEPAN is a better two-way player, has better vision, a better shot a better...well...you get the point. He makes $2 million more than Bozak because he's worth $2 million more.

tdchi


Thu Jan 5 2017 10:00 pm EST

and for those trashing Tortorella (whom I'm no fan of) CBJ has one of the best GF/GA differential in the league.. They have the 3rd most GF's (yeah by a Tortorella coached squad) and 2nd lowest GA's, which we would not be surprised by.....

mf


Thu Jan 5 2017 9:53 pm EST

Bozak should not have to hold Stepan's jockstrap.. Had Bozak been on the Rangers & Stepan on Toronto during the same years, I bet the numbers would be very similar for each player on the respective team. Capishe? http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/player/7017/stats

mf


Thu Jan 5 2017 9:43 pm EST

Craps did the nyr dirty work they beat the cbj and ended their streak... now lose 16 in a row ....

stevielegs


Thu Jan 5 2017 9:32 pm EST

STEPAN is a perfect example of how the grass is almost always geeener on the other side. About the only part of his game that isn't up to snuff with his pay is his ability in the face off circle. He's an integral part of this team's ongoing success. He's not cheap, but for what he does? He's worth it. BOZAK couldn't hold Step's jock.

tdchi


Thu Jan 5 2017 7:51 pm EST

I'll just state this about Stepan. He is a center that is virtually a lock for 50+ points a season. He can play in most situations. This season he is expensive but in another season his salary becomes manageable. I personally think he is worth the money. For sure. Here is a guy who meets all the tick sheet for the wall. A true center, 50 point guy, homegrown, core player. I'm not married to the guy but frankly, I think he is what he has been. Part of the web that builds a solid foundation for success. Since he matured the New York Rangers have done nothing but win.

E


Thu Jan 5 2017 6:01 pm EST

RF: The only part of Stepan's contract that really irks me is the NTC which kicks in at the end of this season... Outside of that and in relationship to what the players command, IMO, it's not terrible.. Would I have preferred paying him less? But of course.... Mrs.RF4L's Tyler Bozak @ $4.2mill per for this season & next is a steal for Toronto IMO.....

mf


Thu Jan 5 2017 5:56 pm EST

"From an annual CAP HIT perspective (not actual salary per year) to put a visual to Derek Stepan's performance vs production; STEPAN is currently the 18th highest paid center in the league, and he paid only $750,000 more (only, as if most of us wouldn't feel likw the cat's meow earning $750,000 per year) than the 33rd highest paid center.. He is also the 30th highest paid "forward" in the league, with 48 forwards earning at least $6mill per.... http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/cap-hit/forward/

mf


Thu Jan 5 2017 5:52 pm EST

Agreed on Stepan. A good 2 way center who's an important part of the Rangers but overpaid and IMO replaceable. It's not unreasonable to envision this team playing effectively with Z in Stepan's place. It's also not unreasonable to envision this team being better than that if Stepan fetched a top 4 d-man with some offensive upside. IMO it's almost a no-brainer IF Gorton feels his biggest shortcoming is adding a young(ish) top 4 d-man. We can fantasize all we want, but IMO, you simply won't find such a player by packaging a group of bottom 6ers - you gotta give to get and that means one of Kreider, Miller, Hayes, Stepan or perhaps Zuke going the other way.

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 4:38 pm EST

I also feel Stepan is paid too much for a #2 center. I will always maintain that I would have rather been paying $8 million plus to an elite center rather than an elite goaltender.

NYStranger


Thu Jan 5 2017 4:26 pm EST

Thanks, it figures..lol

NYStranger


Thu Jan 5 2017 4:22 pm EST

NYSTRANGER: You were actually running away with the pool early in the season. I think you were like 4 or 5 up on everyone else at one point. But as things have changed over the last month or so we caught up.

Vic


Thu Jan 5 2017 4:20 pm EST

oops...Freudian slip perhaps? NOT trying to be snotty...lol

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 4:19 pm EST

TD: Yeah maybe but I recall last year when McI was given a bit of an extended chance due to injuries and played better than either Boyle or Girardi, he was dismissed right back to the pressbox as soon as the coach was able to dress 6 other d-men. I don't want to revisit the McI argument anymore because you will never convince me that AV didn't mistreat the kid and has contributed to where he is now in his NHL career, which is tenuous at best. The Rangers have been very lucky in terms of injuries on their backline which is arguably now the weakest area organizationally in terms of depth. Who knows how long Staal is out but my betting is that regardless of how many games Clendenning gets and how he plays, as soon as AV can dress the usual 6, he'll be back in the pressbox again. You (and Wild) can defend it all you wish - you will not convince me (and I'm trying to come across snottily here - just trying to avoid a long extended argument back and forth on the subject). I respect your opinion, just don't agree with it (or yours Wild).

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 4:10 pm EST

RF4L - The problem in your thinking is that you're comparing a guy like CLENDENING, a guy who has never skated a full NHL season, much less with the same team, with guys who have literally skated more than 600 games in the NHL. He's not going to get a job simply because he plays better than KLEIN or GIRARDI in a game, when one or the other --or both --play bad...He's got to earn his way into action...I mean, you could also look at it this way: There was no guarantee BUCHNEVICH was going to make the team or start...but the kid quickly made a case for why he should be in the lineup that didn't simply rely on him being better than the 12th winger in the lineup...Maybe I'm wrong, but I bet of Clendening had a pair of goals last night or a few assists or any combination of offense...or even a few slick passes out of the zone that lead to good scoring chances....that he'd be in the lineup again...As it happens, he'll probably have another shot against Columbus because STAAL is expected to be out...and we'll see...but I haven't seen anything from the guy that suggests he's close to a regular spot or worthy of speculation as to why he's riding pine.

tdchi


Thu Jan 5 2017 4:07 pm EST

Vic thanks for the update. I am surprised I am anywhere near the top and doubt it will last! Would love to see the details. I really don't remember what answers I gave or what all the questions were, for that matter. Sheesh I'm getting old!

NYStranger


Thu Jan 5 2017 4:01 pm EST

WILDCARD: I think folks here appreciate what STEPAN can and cannot do. The issue is (and always has been) that STEPAN isn't an Elite #1 Center. He isn't a guy you build a team around. He isn't a guy that can be that powerhouse #1 Center on a Cup favorite. He is a good player. A solid player as your #2 Center if you have that great #1 in front of him.

Vic


Thu Jan 5 2017 3:42 pm EST

In the last 5 seasons (including this one) Stepan is ties for 15th in points by centers.He was 19th in scoring for centers for the 5 seasons before this season started, and he is 22nd (including this year) since he entered the NHL. Somehow its overlooked that he is a top 30 scoring center, and some teams don't have a single center who has scored more than him over that span.

Wildcard


Thu Jan 5 2017 3:32 pm EST

RF4L: Or Clandenning sits a lot because he is really terrible without the puck...and he needs to be used in offensive zone starts and on the PP exclusively. Yes he has good shifts and even good games, but he is an adventure and its not always good to have that kind of up and down. At least with Girdi and Klein its kind of, you know what the issues area and the positives are, and its more consistent....Clandenning will one shift make a bad read, the next get physical beat, the next make a bad play with the puck, the next not work hard enough...its just random. Likely the reason he has seen so little action thus far in his career....still has a chance to settle down and get better, but I don't really blame any head coach for not using him more....this next couple games will give him a chance to show some consistency, if he can't do it maybe he can't, this is his chance to force more ice time.....its up to him to do it.

Wildcard


Thu Jan 5 2017 3:09 pm EST

I also wanted to post an update to the season long research I am doing regarding 5 on 5 faceoffs in the offensive/defensive zone in case anyone is actually interested. Through 41 games there have been 9 "Conventional" instances where a goal was scored directly as the result of winning or losing an end zone draw. Those are goals where the offensive zone team won the draw and scored before the puck ever left the zone. The Rangers scored 4 of those goals and their opponents scored 5 (two of them in the last 3 games). To put that in perspective the Rangers scored 90 5-on-5 goals and gave up 78 5-on-5 goals. So 4.4% of the Rangers goals for at 5-on-5 came as the result of an offensive zone faceoff win. And 6.4% of goals allowed by the Rangers at 5-on-5 came directly after a defensive zone faceoff loss. Now for the other side........ There were 6 "Non Conventional" instances where goals were scored after a 5-on-5 end zone draw where the opposite of what you would "expect" happened. This means that either the defensive zone team won the draw and got scored on anyway before the puck could leave the zone, or the defensive zone team lost the draw but ended up scoring a goal immediately after blocking a shot/pass or stealing the puck and racing down the ice. The Rangers scored 2 of those goals when they lost the offensive zone draw but were able to pressure and steal the puck. The Rangers gave up 3 of those goals when they won the defensive zone draw but were pressured into turning the puck over. The only other goal of this type came in the second game of the season where the Rangers won an offensive zone draw but had the shot blocked and turned into a breakaway goal the other way by TARASENKO.

Vic


Thu Jan 5 2017 2:57 pm EST

Ola: Something pointed out by the Canadian announcers yesterday that has merit I think (but is applicable I believe only to this year's tourney) is that your guys didn't really face tough competition in the preliminary round. The Canadian entry was grouped with the Russians and the US, all 3 of which, one could argue, are capable of winning gold. The Finns underachieved hugely and while the Swiss are getting better and better, they are not in the class of the big 5. I suspect some re-groupings will happen next year because of it. The point was twofold: 1) The Swedes arguably fared better than they would have due to less competitive foes and 2) Because they were able to breeze thru that round they simply weren't ready mentally for a tougher foe. That makes sense.

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 2:52 pm EST

The most frustrating thing to me about the Clendenning pressboxing this year and the McI last year is that the 6 d-men ahead of him aren't all exactly lights out. KK's game has finally sunk to the spot where the Preds deemed him expendable and we all know where G's game sits. I can only assume the coach is afraid of the negative reaction if he decides to rotate what are clearly his bottom 3 d-men. It also hints at some of the dynamics within the dressing room and the coaching staff IMO.

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 2:37 pm EST

So we hit the mid way point of the season last night. That locks in one of the Texas Pickem pool questions. STEPAN ends up as the leading scorer (31) by 1 point over HAYES, MZA and KREIDER. And MILLER was only 2 points behind STEPAN. I'm happy as I have STEPAN as the leading scorer for both the 41 game mark and the full season. As for the pool I am in the lead (temporarily) for the first time in the last two years. I have 12 out of 20 correct while NYSTRANGER and GES999 are 1 behind me. I'll see if I can get the full detail of the pool and everyone's picks posted on the rfccjc.com site.

Vic


Thu Jan 5 2017 2:31 pm EST

Good response after the horrible effort against Buffalo. I've been traveling and working through the last month and haven't had much time to post. I've kept up with the Wall and watched all of the games but I admit to fast forwarding through the Pens game. Right now it looks pretty clear to me that this team is just hanging on waiting for NASH, ZBAD and BUCH to get healthy. They have won a few games recently but against weak competition. And then there was that abomination on Tuesday. But.......I have other things to post about right now.....

Vic


Thu Jan 5 2017 1:51 pm EST

RF4L- Yeah, Sweden have what 40 straight wins in group games at the WJC, unbeaten for many years. And only 1 gold. But I think it's a mix of a lot of things. First of all the system is doing a tremendous work to develop good players, to a big extent it's a team that is overachieving. U.S. and Can mostly have 1st rounders and a few 2-3 rounders. Sweden have maybe 3-6 first rounders on avg. Then they hit the tournament very well prepared and just performs better than the rest. If you look at like this years roster, besides Rasmus Dahlin there isn't really a single big talent on the team. Many good future NHLers like Fast/Hagelin, but nobody with a lot of raw talent. Then there are other factors. Around 04-05 percent when the Swedish developmen system struggled a lot a decision was made to start playing a very offensive puck possession style instead of trapping like Swe traditionally have made. This has definitely helped to develop the Swedish program, but we also don't get the wins that like Finland have had a couple of times the last 15 years. The. You can question the former coach who was around a long time but just never seem to get it done...

Ola


Thu Jan 5 2017 1:12 pm EST

On last night: Very strong response by the Rangers...EXACTLY what they needed to show after the stinker on Tuesday...HAYES absolutely OWNED Steve MASON last night...the guy really does have a great shot....and MILLER...boy, oh boy...passing is on point...I don't doubt he will be a 60 and maybe even 70 point player...GRABNER: If he isn't in the Rangers' future, then they need to find someone with his skill set to swing into the lineup because he really does provide another dimension for this team...and I know the prevailing thought is that he won't be resigned...well...I think it's time to rethink that thought...Can't protect him in the expansion draft and I doubt he'll get picked anyway...but he was an element that was missed sorely when HAGELIN was traded...and TBH, I think he's a much better player...certainly around the net he is...Enjoyed the game a lot, but this was another Ranger-Flyer bout that really defied the logic of Ranger-Flyer games in that while it was fast-paced, it really wasn't altogether physical...closest they got to snarl was GIROUX'S pathetic facewash of Hayes...not that I'm concerned about it...just strange. KREIDER, again, showed he's taken his game to the next level....he and STEPAN have some very good chemistry together and I hope they stay on a line when the walking wounded return...NEXT UP: Ending Tortorella's record book attempt. It's a must.

tdchi


Thu Jan 5 2017 1:01 pm EST

YEPPPER. ..Clemmer played a gutsy game

rangerlou


Thu Jan 5 2017 1:01 pm EST

CLENDENING is a good, serviceable seventh defender...He's shown that he can fill in when there's a pinch and that he's good at moving the puck...the irony here, is that the same mistakes McILRATH would make, Clendening also makes at times...which is that he takes himself FAAAAR out of position...and to double down on this message, he also has a habit of taking real stupid penalties...maybe even more so than Mac did...He clutched and grabbed with VORACEK last night when it was still a one-goal game...and that's the shit that gets you benched...I will say that aside from the penalty, he didn't look out of place...looked serviceable...but what else did he do? One blocked shot. Two giveaways. Zero hits. Zero shots. That's not exactly the line one wants to see from a guy who is struggling to assert himself as a regular NHLer...could say the same for JENSEN last night...Looked OK...didn't see him do anything that would warrant being pulled from the lineup...but what did he do? Was there ever an A-HA moment where any of us said 'MAN this guy belongs?' Nope...Could be him adjusting to the speed...we saw Matt PUEMPEL have several quiet games and then rack up four goals in three games...on his end, however, there were flashes where I could see him emerging...So to reiterate my point from the McI post yesterday: What exactly has Clendening or Jensen done to stay in the roster? Keep in mind, with most coaches, you earn a permanent spot on the team by your own play, not because someone else isn't playing well...

tdchi


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:55 am EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/05/we-hacked-russias-goalie/

mf


Thu Jan 5 2017 11:37 am EST

Rf that should be the consequence for that , but fishboy might just let his contract run out instead. I think he has 1 more year. Hopefully he's thinking about a replacement in the meantime. Not an easy task when your roster and picks have been geared toward your coach's system and type of players he needs. I hope he finally succeeds in the playoffs and gets an extension as the reward. I just don't really think and feel he will. And I hope I'm very wrong.

stevielegs


Thu Jan 5 2017 10:36 am EST

stevie: AV will last the rest of the year now for sure. His future coaching tenure with the Rangers may hinge on how the Rangers fare in the POs. Personally, I hope he's canned if they go out early.

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 10:20 am EST

RF4L.........my thoughts exactly............................

Newfie_Ranger


Thu Jan 5 2017 9:28 am EST

Newf: I watched the 3rd period and thought he was fine. In fact, I've not seen anything from him when he has played that warrants the ridiculous pressbox crap AV has subjected him to, especially when you consider how G and KK have struggled form time to time. This is precisely the same crap AV handed out to McI last year. It makes no sense but so do a lot of that man's roster decisions....

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 9:19 am EST

rf/bob it helped him that nash and zbad have been out, otherwise he might not be leading. But overall in 41 games the nyr have survived pretty well, especially considering all the injuries with hank not really being hank in many games....5 guys are still injured so there is decent depth to this team.....ass vipe survives past Christmas, that's a good accomplishment.....now it's time to break the cbj's streak on Saturday.....

stevielegs


Thu Jan 5 2017 9:18 am EST

Hank redeemed himself...........AGAIN...............did anyone else think Clendenning played well besides me ?

Newfie_Ranger


Thu Jan 5 2017 8:57 am EST

schneidw: They are saying 'upper body' which given his battle several years ago with that concussion, is worrisome. Hopefully, it's not serious.

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 8:56 am EST

Bob: What took him so long to get there?!

RF4L


Thu Jan 5 2017 8:12 am EST

rangerlou - are you still in Mantolking? My in laws have a place off Bay Lane Ketch and Sloop. I stop in at Used 2 Be from time to time in the summer.

DREW


Thu Jan 5 2017 1:36 am EST

I see Derek Stepan is the club"s leading scorer

Bob


Wed Jan 4 2017 11:01 pm EST

Love the win, but the F/Os are lousy - again. We were starting to improve there this season. Hope it gets back on track

WIOSA


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:56 pm EST

RangerLOU- Mantaloking?? Wow! Great place to live

schneidw


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:54 pm EST

MARC STAAL- anybody know what injury is keeping him out of the lineup?

schneidw


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:40 pm EST

Capt zero did his best to lose that game miss a goal and kick one in ... good job...

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:33 pm EST

Grabners' a solid player. Always in the game, even when he's not scoring. Not too many stupid plays.

WIOSA


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:32 pm EST

What a read by Grabner

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:29 pm EST

Hanky let's a Stanley in of course

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:26 pm EST

Hayes can smile at Giroux again

tlats


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:23 pm EST

Let's see if the flyers try and goon it up now

tlats


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:20 pm EST

Hayezzzzzz

tlats


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:20 pm EST

Purple Hayes WOOOOT WOOOOT WOOOOT WOOOOT WOOOOT

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:18 pm EST

Captain Ohhh Captain....puts one in. Bahawwwahahahahahahah

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:13 pm EST

Grabner!

WIOSA


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:13 pm EST

What a fabulous pass from Miller. Man oh man, it's stuff like that that makes me shudder at the notion of trading him. If he figures out how to be consistent, he's a 30 goal, 70 point winger IMO.

RF4L


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:13 pm EST

OhhhhhhhhhhhBABY ...Grabner

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:12 pm EST

Lou 3-0

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:05 pm EST

Stevie...As much I agree with you. This is not the team to pull that off. So lets make them pay on the scoreboard. Plus we have 4 key guys out

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:04 pm EST

Canada/US WJC gold game imminent...Swedes great in preliminary round, falter in the elimination rounds for a long time now. Ola: Curious as to your thoughts on the latter...

RF4L


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:04 pm EST

Yeah Kreider, on a roll. He's playing serious this season. Hope it lasts

WIOSA


Wed Jan 4 2017 10:01 pm EST

Kid k another lucky goal

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 9:48 pm EST

Rangerlou maybe giving it back would have been just slightly better .. no? ... but that's a nyr trademark now....Hayes almost swallowed his mouthpiece....with his pride...

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 9:45 pm EST

Are= ate

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 9:45 pm EST

Trade I think they all are those cookies with milk before last night's game ... they probably don't remember too much now....

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 9:41 pm EST

TradeStar28... What Purple Hayes did was perfect. It frustrated that Douche Bag to no end

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 9:37 pm EST

Giroux rubbed his glove in Hayes' mug after the 2nd period......and Hayes laughed like he was all baked on pot cookies he snuck home from Colorado

TradeStar28


Wed Jan 4 2017 9:03 pm EST

#13 scores after 13 games of no goals

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 8:13 pm EST

Congrats to the US for beating the sneaky f'in Russians today...although I kind of hate to see any of these teams lose, because they're all kids after all...and it sucks to see some of them hang their heads...but the US has played a phenomenal tournament, especially for a team that has a very good sum of good players, but no superstars...save for maybe Clayton KELLER who at times looks like the second-coming of Patrick KANE...but they played a hell of a game...as did the Russian netminder SAMSANOV, the Caps' first rounder from 2015...gotta say I didn't see much of ZBOROVSKIY, the Rangers' pick...but the Russians did look very good, as they did in the first game against the US...US was the better team though...Congrats to them for assuring themselves a medal. They deserve it. Great group...2013 is still one of my favorites...but these guys...they got a lot of heart.

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 8:12 pm EST

What a dive to take out Hank.

stepunmytoe


Wed Jan 4 2017 8:12 pm EST

Crash 1

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 7:59 pm EST

So it's clendening and hanky tonight.... guess ass vipe thinks hank had nothing to do with last night's loss...watch the cryers crash his ass....my guess antti starts the 2 nd period....

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 7:31 pm EST

The ghost of first rounders past. Forget Mcilrath already. He sucks. He is not an NHL defenseman. He got buried on the chart in NY and now he'll get buried in FL. Talk about a guy whose skills never matched his hype.

E


Wed Jan 4 2017 7:20 pm EST

Guys, just so you know, the Rangers now aren't the only team that can't find a spot for McILRATH. The Panthers, who haven't been playing well and who just had a change behind the bench, are choosing to play has-been Jakub KINDL, who was cut by the Wings a few years back after failing to crack their blue line. Needless to say, Kindl ain't exactly a star. He's not really even a seventh defender...to draw a comparison, he couldn't hold CLENDENING'S jock. He's got 2 helpers and is -7 in 18 games since his call-up...he's already passed through waivers once this season and probably will a second time when the Kitties get their regular third pairing guy back...a fellow named Petrovic who ain't any great shakes himself...And yet McIlrath, a guy they traded for, is staying on the bench and hasn't gotten more than 10 minutes in a game with the Panthers, remains benched...I get why fans loved the kid. Hell, I liked him a lot...but at some point this notion that he was wronged by AV in some way has got to end. My take is that at times, Mac played steady enough to be in the Rangers' too six, but seldom did he look better than that...should he have played over BOYLE? I'd say sometimes. GIRARDI? Sometimes...but sort of like JENSEN is doing now...and like ETEM did last season...he never put together a stein if periods where I could say 'MAN, THIS GUY BELONGS!' Not even close. He may have played well enough to not warrant demotion, but that was about the best one could say for the guy other than he played every shift with heart...but so do a lot of guys who never amount to anything. The guy needed to take a step beyond where he was at when he was in Hartford opening eyes...and while he showed flashes of doing that last year, he actually regressed this year back to where he was at 22, when he was chasing people around the defensive zone like a rabid bear, just totally unaware of how out of position he was taking himself...and for me, frankly, it was sad to watch because he DID become a bedrock defenseman in Hartford who played very well positionally, knew when and when not to take the body and seemed to recognize that he wasn't going to go very far with his fists. I suspect that's the McIlrath Florida is hoping to reclaim. Only they've got more of the same and Mac is back in the AHL...maybe for good if another injury doesn't come along.

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 7:07 pm EST

What a Horror Show last Night.....We gave my Daughter and Son in Law tickets to last nights game for x-mas.....wonder if their still talking to me.

MelvilleFred


Wed Jan 4 2017 6:42 pm EST

_Arc, -- Completely, completely agree. You said it all. It's the truth, this team has turned into something that's not authentic. It's fake. The irony is we have a few players who can bring some jam... and turn the team more into that family type Brotherhood bond through toughness. But He won't Iet them. I lost respect for those responsible for trading MCILRATH, total joke. Kid coulda' been next FOTIU heart and soul type of player. Im sorry, you make room for that home grown first round asset. AV needs to change it up and let the Boys play with some aggression. It wont happen. I used to live for Rangers Flyers, now... whatever. I watch, but the product on the ice is sanitized. I need Hits, Scrums & Fighting in my Hockey. Remember the way NEDVEED got pushed around, back in 97 by Philly in the Playoffs... totally embarassing. ASS WIPE's turn-the-other-cheek is humiliating.

hipcheck


Wed Jan 4 2017 6:40 pm EST

Staal out tonight and Saturday with upper body injury....

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 5:06 pm EST

Nieto was a decent player last season. He does have wheels but he is a fairly tenacious player. He constantly closes the distance and forces the pace. He reminds me a little of D. Moore. This season? Just can't seem to find what he had last season. He played his way on to waivers.

E


Wed Jan 4 2017 4:59 pm EST

I haven't noticed hospo lately. Have I missed something. Has he been here hope all is well buddy

KIS


Wed Jan 4 2017 4:47 pm EST

I don't think this 'malaise' is a matter of leadership. It's more a matter of PASSION and team chemistry/ togetherness!!! I've said all along that this technical, turn- the- other- cheek, purse swinging, prancing pansy type of hockey has a very limited ceiling/ shelf life. I don't see any type of 'I got ur back, run through a brick wall type of attitude with this team at all. They just go through the motions on good nights as well as bad. AV has instilled a sterile emotionless brand out there and this is simply an inevitable by product. The type of team chemistry I'm talking about is built over weeks and months of 'fox hole' type circumstances and having that type of behavior necessarily removed will have ramifications. Big Mac was an easy solution to this issue especially since I haven't seen anything from Girardi to say that he is at all better than what would have been par for the course with Big Mac. I get a kick out of AV bristeling at the lack of emotion; Fire calling the kettle black u friggin cafe going, crepe eating, panty wearing flower child you AssVipe.

_Arc


Wed Jan 4 2017 4:03 pm EST

tdchi. ..I say bring back Nicky Fotiu ans Ed box car Hospodar and be done with it

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 3:18 pm EST

Wanna watch the antithesis of last night's game? Tune in here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2spz1IWDxM

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 2:35 pm EST

tdchi. ..I say bring back Nicky Fotiu ans Ed box car Hospodar and be done with it

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 2:28 pm EST

Sharks' Matt NIETO on waivers. Not sure what he'd bring that the Rangers would want aside from more speed...

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 2:25 pm EST

;)

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 1:54 pm EST

tdchi ...It's all good my FRIEND. I get your point

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 12:55 pm EST

McILRATH sent to the AHL on a conditioning stint. Hasn't gotten back into action since Dec. 15.

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 12:52 pm EST

Speaking of the Canes...they claimed Ty RATTIE. He's a player I would've taken a flyer on.

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 12:52 pm EST

RF4L - I don't think you have guys steam to where they were in mid-November without a good captain and a rudder...in fact, they were pretty darn disciplined during the fall...they still aren't bad when it comes to taking PIMs...third least penalized team in the NHL...and while some may argue the lack of retribution shows a lack of leadership, I'd offer that it's a lot harder to get hockey players in general to NOT retaliate than it is to have them unleash the hounds so to speak....here's another peculiar stat: Rangers have the third lowest average of opponent penalty minutes, which is slightly higher than the penalties they take...So basically, the Ranger games are extraordinarily clean. Only the Hawks and the Canes were better...in both categories.

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 12:20 pm EST

Disagree on the leadership angle. You could have put Mark Messier in his prime on the ice last night and it wouldn't have woken these guys up in any meaningful way...and if you want a hard-nose coach to whip these guys into shape...well...we've been down that road...Problem here is that the team is designed down to the last minuscule detail to play a specific game...this high-octane speed-and-skill game to beat teams on the scoreboard, not on the boards....I'm now thinking that some of the malaise we saw last night could really be confusion...an inability to adjust....I also suspect whatever the game plan that was executed very well at the top of the season required the forwards to do a lot of the heavy lifting...and the D to...well...play a really simple game...I agree this team could use a little spice...that's why I keep bringing up Jake VIRTANEN...kid just languishing in Utica right now, who has clearly fallen in the Canucks depth chart. Insert him into the bottom four and I suspect the 'leadership problems' people are lamenting will vanish...Hawks' Ryan HARTMAN is another...heard the Hawks might have to leave him exposed...problem is, if you tinker with the bottom six too much and get a guy with less skill or less speed...then you run the risk of oversalting the proverbial stew...

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 11:52 am EST

The thing is what do you do if you're Gorton and you believe the issue to be a lack of leadership? The team is in the top 5 in the league - it seems counterproductive to start cutting at it's core or even more drastically, firing the coach. We know the latter isn't going to happen, at least not until the off-season (if it happens at all). I wonder what he's thinking..........

RF4L


Wed Jan 4 2017 11:36 am EST

rangerlou - just making a wee joke about that MSG hockey show you love so much...really felt like I was watching it on NBC last night...but now that I'm going through the guide, it does, in fact, say I was watching the Rangers-Sabres game. Maybe that's why I couldn't find Snoop Dog.

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 11:35 am EST

Ola - I tend to agree...I'm not going to pass judgment on a team that was so dominant for a quarter of the season just because of a few bad performances...and like my broken record keeps repeating: Take away three from any team's top nine and you're gonna have issues...My point in my ranting is that the Rangers, even with their compromised lineup, should have had a better showing against an inferior team and an inferior goalie. Even the NBC announcers noticed how lackluster they looked...off day? Maybe...but after last season, where an off-day turned into an off-month and an off-month into an off-season...I gotta say I'm a little bit disappointed to see them lose without passion...and that last part is key: Lose without passion. A loss against the Sabres is perfectly acceptable. Every team has its day...and with the talent they have, the Sabres aren't the diminutive popgun offense team that got blanked by a guy now in the ECHL...So a loss is fine...but have some pride. Show some energy. Instead, they showed like a team that ate, drank, and partied through their holiday...granted, this is almost to be expected of the Rangers...EVERY YEAR it seems like they pick December and January to go in a funk...just last night's loss makes me start to listen a little more to the critics that were bad-mouthing them even when they were winning.

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 9:55 am EST

Down right ugly game again....I agree that leadership (or a lack thereof) is the main issue now. Some of our D are older and tired(G & K) and are not put in the right positions to succeed. If Girardi and Klein were 5 & 6 we would be in much better shape but our coach fails to wake up the defense.....Even inserting 1 D for G & K on alternate days could help IMO

rngrsans


Wed Jan 4 2017 9:01 am EST

I'm glad I didn't watch it. I also think this effort, which we've seen more than once this year, is a symptom of something much larger and that's a lack of leadership. It starts with the coach, extends to the captain and of course the so called go to guys on the roster. It helps none either that this team has no aggression - we've been down this road numerous times and I realize doing this doesn't mean it won't happen again, but wouldn't it have been nice to see someone go after the Sabre who smoked Vesey? Yeah yeah yeah, it was a legal hit and Vesey was at fault for putting himself in that position but 1) he's a rookie 2) someone needs to show some heart/anger/energy in a game like this. To me it all fits together. If I'm correct, remedying this will be difficult, if not impossible unless some significant changes are made. We chatted about this all off-season long remember - that is, the perceived lack of leadership on this club, starting with a coach who prefers whistle to whistle hockey and rarely exhibits emotion on the bench and moving to a captain who basically emulates the coach's reigned-in emotional style. IMO it's a problem that will result in no deep PO run. JMHaEO.

RF4L


Wed Jan 4 2017 8:40 am EST

tdchi....I'm from Mantoloking NJ. My Friend

rangerlou


Wed Jan 4 2017 6:31 am EST

After Saturday’s game against the Blue Jackets, the team doesn’t play again until the following Friday against Toronto. “This is a new break for everybody,” the coach said. “We have this break coming up and then we have the All-Star break. This one, there’s really nothing that we can do.” Players that are on injured reserve will be allowed to skate during the break, but the team can’t have any formal workouts.

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 6:28 am EST

http://nypost.com/2017/01/03/rangers-throw-in-towel-again/

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 6:18 am EST

“Our execution was nonexistent,” Vigneault said. “We didn’t have a [defenseman] that could make a pass and our compete level was not good enough. I haven’t said this very often about this group since I’ve been here, but this was a very bad game where we got outworked badly and we’re going to need to respond here.”

stevielegs


Wed Jan 4 2017 5:34 am EST

I think with this team that you also need to take a step back and ask yourself what the expectations on the team is this year. Because I can say one thing for certain, there isn't 8 teams in this league looking good on a nightly basis. There probably isn't 4 either. There is a reason for why we are 3rd overall in the entire NHL. I know its NY, but to me its a bit like everyone is acting like we should be a top 3 contender for the Cup and everything else is one of or a mix of incompetence by the coach, injuries or poor showings by certain players. Since when did we become a top 3 Cup contender? Or what is really the "big" problem, that we play bad on a regular basis? Well which team doesn't right now.

Ola


Wed Jan 4 2017 1:06 am EST

Look, I'm trying to see the bright side of this...that this team hasn't been able to ice any squad that is as balanced as the one they had to start the year...but there comes a time when you can't fall back on excuses. No, the Sabres aren't a shitty as they once were...and certainly, a team with the likes of EICHEL and Sam REINHART are always going to pose a challenge...but among the games I've seen so far this year, this one stands out as one that reminds me most of last season...team that shows up 100 percent unprepared to compete that goes through the motions until it's in a corner, give one futile push, and then disappears down the rabbit hole of mediocrity...I mean, down two goals in the third and then three...and you can't muster A SINGLE SHOT until something like 14 minutes into the period? That's just embarrassing. If you're going to lose against a team like the Sabres, at least show a little fire. There was zero of it. Absolutely zero...At this point, I'm really becoming of the belief that Gorton needs to do something. It's fine to wait around until they get healthy...and maybe that will work...but if this is what happens when the team faces adversity for any duration, then they've got to do some soul searching.

tdchi


Wed Jan 4 2017 12:26 am EST

Hey rangerlou...Not sure about where you're from...but in my area, I'm pretty sure they got the programming all screwed up. Coulda swore what I was watching on NBC was that new MSG hockey show. Musta been a special edition, because it seemed like two and a half hours of sucking. And that's more sucking than anyone can take...

tdchi


Tue Jan 3 2017 11:28 pm EST

WOW! !!! Two words..Train Wreck

rangerlou


Tue Jan 3 2017 10:35 pm EST

Just saw the craplites - worse of them? Vesey with his head down getting smoked. Geesh....you want a short career kid??

RF4L


Tue Jan 3 2017 10:32 pm EST

Ho hum...

RF4L


Tue Jan 3 2017 9:50 pm EST

Cellophane flowers of yellow and green............

mf


Tue Jan 3 2017 9:38 pm EST

Glad smellivision hasn't been invented yet... that game stunk out loud . Bjs win 16 in a row..

stevielegs


Tue Jan 3 2017 9:30 pm EST

Best team effort a couple of games ago when the Rangers beat the Senators this is the worst team effort of the year so far.A heartless gutless game against an inferior opponent

tlats


Tue Jan 3 2017 9:29 pm EST

Is it me???? Or when Hanky is in net we play with shitty confidence

rangerlou


Tue Jan 3 2017 9:11 pm EST

Stanky hanky not stealing many games this season... is uncle antti in tomorrow against the cryers?

stevielegs


Tue Jan 3 2017 9:05 pm EST

Vanilla garbage pails

TradeStar28


Tue Jan 3 2017 9:02 pm EST

Was wondering when he was going to score, he has our number

WIOSA


Tue Jan 3 2017 8:37 pm EST

Stat correction: Kevin Klein credited with an assist on Buffalo's goal.....

mf


Tue Jan 3 2017 8:37 pm EST

Brutal game, I guess we're due. BTW Rip to former Ranger coach (among many) Ron Smith.

WIOSA


Tue Jan 3 2017 8:36 pm EST

Holden Caulfield ..... “Anyway, I keep picturing all these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody's around - nobody big, I mean - except me. And I'm standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff - I mean if they're running and they don't look where they're going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That's all I do all day. I'd just be the catcher in the rye and all. I know it's crazy, but that's the only thing I'd really like to be.”

mf


Tue Jan 3 2017 8:33 pm EST

Is there a stat that shows which team has given up the most First NHL Goal by a player or the First NHL Win by a goalie? I've got to believe the Rangers would lead both categories.

chet94


Tue Jan 3 2017 8:11 pm EST

Bawawawawawahhhhhhhhh

rangerlou


Tue Jan 3 2017 8:07 pm EST

Pull the Queen

tlats


Tue Jan 3 2017 7:57 pm EST

This team has the ability to make last place teams into cup contenders

rangerlou


Tue Jan 3 2017 7:46 pm EST

Guess I will switch the Jacket-Oilers game. What a joke of an effort.

stepunmytoe


Tue Jan 3 2017 7:34 pm EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/down-goes-brown-five-best-trade-destinations-for-jarome-iginla

mf


Tue Jan 3 2017 7:14 pm EST

Plenty of meat & potato's on the "right" coast.

mf


Tue Jan 3 2017 6:48 pm EST

That new MSG Hockey Show really BLOWS...Just saying

rangerlou


Tue Jan 3 2017 6:11 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 1h1 hour ago AV: Puempel had concussion symptoms yesterday, so he's out indefinitely. Jensen in.

stevielegs


Tue Jan 3 2017 4:59 pm EST

Really not that impressive when you consider that the majority of Type 1 diabetics take more than 300 shot a year!! :)

Ranger47


Tue Jan 3 2017 4:05 pm EST

Brian Leetch my all time favorite New York Ranger! Matthews on pace for more then 300 shots in his rookie season. Only four rookies in NHL history have had that many shots in a season: Ovechkin with a record 425, Selanne at 387, Dale Hawerchuk at 339 and Brian Leetch at 308.

Jerry_Garcia


Tue Jan 3 2017 2:48 pm EST

Rick Carpiniello ‏@RickCarpiniello 1h1 hour ago LOL, CBJ now 7/1 favorites to win the Cup per @BovadaLV ... Sucker bet. ... Though the Jackets are coming off a wonderful December Cup run.

stevielegs


Tue Jan 3 2017 1:08 pm EST

We need meat and potatoes. Not kale with lentils and tahini sauce

E


Tue Jan 3 2017 1:05 pm EST

I would really prefer Duchene stay far away from the east. I think that there is a ton of skill there laying dormant. He's one of those players who are high on the list of needing a change of venue to find his game again. Would love to see him in NY but then again I am not really thrilled by the prospect of chasing shiny objects. I also do not think scoring goals is really an issue for the New York Rangers. I'm far more concerned about the blue line going forward.

E


Tue Jan 3 2017 12:26 pm EST

Not surprised to hear the Preds are interested in Duchense. I've always thought Stepan would be a good fit there, probably better than Duchense because he's a better 2-way center and with Johansen they've already got their number 1 guy.

RF4L


Tue Jan 3 2017 11:57 am EST

Sounds a lot like Colorado is about to be systematically dismantled and that anyone not named McKINNON is on the block...Rumor was circulating this morning that the Capitals are hot on DUCHENE right now...Preds too...but Sakic won't trade him within the conference....certainly sounds like a good time for the Rangers to be asking about Tyson BARRIE.

tdchi


Tue Jan 3 2017 9:49 am EST

RF4L - its semantics of course, but I'd say JENSEN in his first stint, didn't do anything to show he belongs in the NHL, rather than he did something that suggested he didn't belong. Then again, if you can't show your utility, then that's just as bad as making in-game errors really...My thinking with him is that he's continually improved now at all levels except the NHL. What really stands out for me is how he's improved in international play and then of course, being a point per game player since his demotion. We'll see. As with HRIVIK, the odds are pretty stacked against him sticking with the team...but you never know.

tdchi


Tue Jan 3 2017 8:02 am EST

TD. I inow you're high on Jensen and of course I hope you're proven correct in the end. I saw him in 2 games when he was up previously and to me hevtotally earned the demotion he received. Maybe that finally woke him up because as you cite he's 24 and his NHL clock is steadily clicking down. I find it frustrating- he's got the size and skating ability; he needs to apply himself. We've seen this story a 1000 times before however...

RF4L


Tue Jan 3 2017 7:16 am EST

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/chris-kreider-communication-is-the-key-to-rangers-success-1.12842440

stevielegs


Tue Jan 3 2017 3:55 am EST

Pumper may have concussion symptoms...

Ola


Tue Jan 3 2017 3:13 am EST

RF4L - There was a lot left on the table when they grabbed GROPP...still not sure what they saw in him that they didn't seen in GREENWAY. The irony is that what they were shooting for in Gropp is the same skills Greenway is showing at the WJC...I will note that Gropp had a pretty significant injury last year that might have stunted his development somewhat...but when I see the three players I cited...I can't help but to think...what were they thinking...Greenway is going to be one heck of a player...kid is only going to get stronger from here too...tall, quick, physically imposing...they just can't move him from the crease...almost like a smooth skating Brian Boyle...and I know the guys at the WJCs keep calling him a Bertuzzi-esque player...He'll probably turn pro after this year and be in the NHL next...Sigh...can't win them all.

tdchi


Tue Jan 3 2017 3:06 am EST

schneidw - I don't believe JENSEN has to go through waivers until he's recalled for plus-10 games...can't recall the exact rule, but I know that's why some times try to 'sneak' players down when the waiver wire is filled...because then they can recall them for like 10 games or 30 days or something to that effect...but I will say JENSEN has been playing lights-out down in Hartford...just dominating...very seldom is he held off the score sheet. And even when he is, it's not for a lack of trying...kid has been averaging four or so shots per night. It wouldn't surprise me at all that either he's being recalled because someone else is on the block or if he, himself, is on the block...they have to realize at this point what they have in him,...and he's turning 24 in March, so really it's kind of make-or-break...I don't, however, see them waiving PIRRI quite yet...I mean, stranger things have happened...and it does seem like HRIVIK, who plays center, has worked himself into the lineup...One thing I will say about Jensen is that he plays with more of an edge than the forwards in the bottom six. That could also be part of it...But most likely, him being with the team is simply a result of the flu bug working its way through the lineup...Hank was out with it last week, so you've got to figure some other guys got it...Do hope Jensen gets a nice long look. He's a solid player...would be a coup if he could hit his stride in the NHL.

tdchi


Mon Jan 2 2017 11:54 pm EST

JENSON: an earlier post speculates there is a sick NYR causing the call up for Jenson.. would the NYRs risk losing Jenson to waivers for a short term call up? I was thinking this signfiied a bigger roster move and change/demotion of a player... am I wrong??

schneidw


Mon Jan 2 2017 11:49 pm EST

JENSON: call up may end the NYR tenure of PIRRI? He has been invisible since the first month of the season.... Jenson adds size/speed and worth a look in hopes of creating some turnovers and breakaways... PIRRI plays lazy and doesnt pay the price along the boards...

schneidw


Mon Jan 2 2017 11:02 pm EST

TD: LOL...don't get me started on the Gropp pick. Not that I have any animosity towards the kid and I also understand completely the slim percentages of a 2nd rounder becoming an NHL regular. The issue here is what Gorther coughed up for the right to select Gropp - the fact the kids picked after him are already climbing up the depth charts in terms of projections only amplifies for me the stupidity of that trade. I remain convinced it was orchestrated by Sather - thank goodness he's shuffled off to the side.

RF4L


Mon Jan 2 2017 7:32 pm EST

RF4L - This GREENWAY kid is just an absolute beast in front of the net. Gonna be a force in the NHL...I remember being somewhat pissed he got passed up by the Rangers in favor of GROPP...Now I'm looking at that draft, the Rangers also had a crack at BRACCO and the Swede, Oliver KYLINGTON...Now I'm not ready to write off Gropp quite yet, but all three of those players are better than him...Greenway could be a star...is EXACTLY what the Rangers could really use...and had they taken him, I don't think many people would be considering the HAGELIN deal a bad one.

tdchi


Mon Jan 2 2017 7:15 pm EST

KREIDER names to the NHL's three stars this week....Four goals and five points in three games.

tdchi


Mon Jan 2 2017 7:11 pm EST

JENSEN has been pretty lights out in Hartford since getting demoted. Would be great if he brought that confidence to New York. The kid is there. He just needs to take that next step.

tdchi


Mon Jan 2 2017 6:07 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 10m10 minutes ago Jensen has 24 points in 29 games for Wolf Pack Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 15m15 minutes ago A forward must be banged up or flu-ish. Nick Jensen has been called up from Hartford

stevielegs


Mon Jan 2 2017 4:25 pm EST

TD: Imagine if that Greenaway kid on the US WJC is the real deal and ends up on Coyle's wing? Yikes...

RF4L


Mon Jan 2 2017 3:23 pm EST

Why on God's Green Earth would Minnesota leave COYLE unprotected?! He's the only thing they have to show for trading away a franchise defenseman....Re: Brooks - The guy really is just a giant douche. I seriously don't know how he has a job.

tdchi


Mon Jan 2 2017 3:20 pm EST

BURMISTROV claimed by Arizona. That team is like a dumping ground now for failed first rounders. Holland, Crouse, DeAngelo, Schenn...

tdchi


Mon Jan 2 2017 12:53 pm EST

pa: I cannot believe the Wild won't find a way to protect Charlie Coyle. He's leading the team in scoring....

RF4L


Mon Jan 2 2017 11:24 am EST

Don't know if any one saw this but it's an interesting read nonetheless, http://www.sportsbreak.com/nhl/hockey-in-sin-city-projecting-a-20-man-roster-for-expansion-vegas/?streamview=all

pa.rangersfan


Mon Jan 2 2017 9:42 am EST

For my American friends - you guys have something special in Auston Matthews. This kid is the real deal and in the same stratosphere as Eichel and McDavid. He scored his 20th goal in the outdoor game yesterday and this despite a 13 game goalless stretch earlier in the fall. Babcock is using him masterfully, slowly but steadily adding to his responsibilties and he's stepping up to meet each one. He's a pleasure to watch. The Leafs had an incredible 9 rookies in the lineup and at one point of their 8 scoring points 7 were from rookies. Once they address their defense (IMO their 2nd pairing is really a 3rd pairing) they will be formidable. As it stands now they're PO contender and that alone is quite the feat. It'll be interesting to see how the Rangers fare against them (not sure when they first play each other) - the speed of the game should be fun to watch.

RF4L


Mon Jan 2 2017 8:12 am EST

1. The Rangers qualify for the playoffs for the seventh straight year in earning wild-card entry to tournament, but go out in the first round for the second straight season, thus leading to an aggressive summer remodeling program. 2. The Blueshirts send a valuable young asset, perhaps in the form of a draft pick, to Las Vegas in return for the Golden Knights agreeing not to select Antti Raanta in the expansion draft. 3. The organization retires Jean Ratelle’s No. 19 while also honoring Blueshirt immortals Bill Cook and Frank Boucher during 2017-18, the franchise’s 91st anniversary. Next up: recognition for Brad Park, Vic Hadfield and Ron Greschner. — Larry Brooks

stevielegs


Mon Jan 2 2017 6:37 am EST

Trade: considering the lack of depth I was thrilled to see the New York Rangers put a left wing lock in the neutral zone and choke Colorado out. They had 4-in the zone and everyone was back checking hard to make sure that the play. Almost every zone gain by Colorado was forcing the winger into isolation on the boards. Colorado was reduced to dump and chase hockey. That's boring hockey for sure. But that's winning hockey when you look at your bottom-6 and it has the likes of Hrivic, Pimple, and Pirri. Waiver fodder guys if you ask me. Barely NHL players.

E


Mon Jan 2 2017 12:19 am EST

PK Slewban on the IR & ELLIS is a going nowhere... jmho snatcherally

mf


Mon Jan 2 2017 12:04 am EST

Here's the thing: CLENDENING hasn't done anything to suggest he should be in the top six...Isn't to say he wouldn't with a pronounced stretch in the lineup...but in his nine games, he's done nothing to suggest he's anything more than a serviceable seventh guy...consequently, that's why he is where he is...certainly, he's better than GIRARDI at times....but that's sort of the point: At times....What the Rangers need and have needed since at least the days of STRALMAN is a solid right-shooting defenseman who is a step or three beyond what KLEIN offers. Klein himself is between a second and third pairing....Rangers fix this situation with a guy like HAMILTON, TROUBA or ELLIS, and look out when they get healthy.

tdchi


Sun Jan 1 2017 11:35 pm EST

Its nice to see the Rangers win...especially the games they should win.....but I am starting to see Hospo's point of view.....This Rangers team is really not exciting.......Watching them play is boring as fugue. Maybe its that two guys who are new here are hurt (Buch and Zbad).....and that Ricky Bob Nash is sidelined too.....but no one on the roster gives you that pumped up feeling........Pretty goddamn vanilla.........

TradeStar28


Sun Jan 1 2017 11:34 pm EST

Happy New Year all! Here's to hoping all the toilets back up in the Penguins' rink. BURMISTROV on waivers....aye....kid with so much promise...so much talent...but he hasn't put it together thus far and I see nothing to suggest he will any time in the near future. Suspect someone will claim him....but unless there's a setback with ZIBANAJED, pass. The underachiever quotient is still pretty high with the Rangers...no need to add to it.

tdchi


Sun Jan 1 2017 6:33 pm EST

SLegs: we played this game last year with McIlrath & it turned out the coach was correct.. Maybe Glendenning just isn't good enough to play his way onto the roster.. Maybe having a LHS playing one of the "right side" pairing is the best we can hope for right now.... As the trade deadline gets nearer, the action heats up. (This season, the trade deadline is on Feb. 28, 2017) We'll see..... I'll throw this name out there again; Roman Polak (RHS) in an UFA , affordable, and IMO a tough soldier with playoff experience... Not your fleet footed puck carrying 1st pairing guy, but a real tough competitor and the price may be very attractive.... We will see.....

mf


Sun Jan 1 2017 5:27 pm EST

Moof if ass vipe gives the guy 5 games in a row by sitting girardi and Klien 1 game at a time each , maybe he will hold his own. It really can't hurt to try it right now . And those 2 can use the time off .

stevielegs


Sun Jan 1 2017 3:37 pm EST

The Preds PK Subban placed on the IR with what's reported as a herniated disc... Surgery is an option but would sideline him for a looong time.. Somehow BUCHNEVICH comes to mind and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he too will have a lengthy absence...... Subban going down should raise the price on any available RHS Defencemen.... jmon

mf


Sun Jan 1 2017 3:26 pm EST

Winapig's Burmistrov placed on waivers....

mf


Sun Jan 1 2017 3:10 pm EST

SLegs: doesn't Clenndenning need to prove himself to the point that he forces AV's hand? I agree on managing the minutes and have preached the same for 1.5 years... But again, Clendennings worth in the lineup needs to be greater than the risk of sitting one of the others.. I think they call that competition and or compete level.....

mf


Sun Jan 1 2017 1:59 pm EST

In the meantime ass vipe really needs to rotate his 2 or 3 rightside d men of girardi Klein and clenthenthan....not using all 7 is beyond stubborn...

stevielegs


Sun Jan 1 2017 1:54 pm EST

I would think the target is shattenaltcaptainkirk since I assume his team will try to move him for something rather than get nothing. What price fishboy can negotiate will be the interesting. But that seems to be the move they need to make which doesn't effect to expansion if they sign him long term after that bs.

stevielegs


Sun Jan 1 2017 1:21 pm EST

If we bring in a rhs d'man, who will AV sit? ...... Girardi? A LHS such as Holden? If there is an injury the choice is easy and obvious, outside of that, I don't see Girardi getting benched..

mf


Sun Jan 1 2017 1:15 pm EST

Wishing everyone here a very happy, healthy, and prosperous new year.....

mf


Sun Jan 1 2017 1:09 pm EST

Well, I don't see how Gorton will be able to land a true young top 4 d-man by offering only bottom 6 forwards. Doesn't make sense to me. I wonder if Gorton is of the same mindset as many on here - does he feel a PO run cannot occur without addressing the backline?

RF4L


Sun Jan 1 2017 12:53 pm EST

By the end of the month- all 3 injured forwards will be back. What are our options. Obviously guys like Pirri and Hrivik are coming out- but could this be the time we swing a deal for a right handed D with some spare parts? I think JT Miller is apiece you shouldn't part with. I realize you have to give to get- but he seems on the verge of taking his game to another level. His 2 goals last night were terrific- kreiders hat trick was sweet- and his 3 goals together didn't add up to 10 feet. That's where he belongs- in front of the net. Glad to see the PP humming

puckyou


Sun Jan 1 2017 12:36 pm EST

Good and bad luck does affect the results of some games as well as making your own luck as long as the refs stay out of the equation. Kid k got some lucky goals last night by being in the right place at the right time. Going to the front of the net definitely helps.

stevielegs


Sun Jan 1 2017 12:14 pm EST

Happy New Year to the Wall! Haven't been able to watch much hockey the past two weeks with holiday traveling and work but I use the Wall to get the feel of the fans. LOL. So much doom and gloom. I expected very little out of this years club and so far I have been wrong on many counts. I think AV has done his best coaching as a Ranger this year so far. Yes he shows many of the same problem traits that drive us crasy but he has sat Hank when he needed sitting and Girardi has seen 3rd pairing ice time. So hey,there is that! Plus who expected this sort of scoring out of this bunch? Especially with all the injuries. So I am going into the New Year with a more positive mind set. All the bitching and moaning gets me nowhere anyway! Enjoy your Day guys.

NYStranger


Sun Jan 1 2017 12:07 pm EST

WILD: if they believe it's a couple of bounces then okay. All teams say optimistic things to the media. If that's what they believe then it's a reflection of why they are so bad. And I ask them to explain why when the New York Rangers were on the PP they never challenged a puck carrier and the New York Rangers whipped the puck back and forth like a game of keepaway? Is that how a winning team kills penalties or is that the sign of a team that isn't skating but looking? Video doesn't lie.

E


Sun Jan 1 2017 11:55 am EST

I agree that we desperately need a R-D but I'm not so sure I want to see Miller as part of that deal ? There was a time when I was a bit sour on Miller .........that's when both he and (fat) Hayes were sucking at the same time (last year) But I don't know AV's problem with Miller now ? He can shoot ,score ,hit ,pass , play BOTH SP teams ,oh and did I mention he can HIT !

Newfie_Ranger


Sun Jan 1 2017 11:45 am EST

HAPPY NEWYEAR TO ALL ON THE WALL !

Newfie_Ranger


Sun Jan 1 2017 11:07 am EST

RF4L: Let's be a realist and take a hard look at this team. It is young, entertaining for this era, and likely to get better. They are winning without what is arguably their #2 line. What is needed is to use a collection of third and fourth liners, not including JT, and find a hidden gem like Holden. In the off season rearrange the salary structure and sign Shattenkirk. He wants to come here and we have a spot for him. That IMO positions us to be a legitimate contender long enough to restock the prospect roster.

gene_carr


Sun Jan 1 2017 10:49 am EST

RF4L- Or its just the coach doing a good job? ;) Seriously though, there is a lot of talk about AV and usage. Who is top 1/2/3 pairing, who plays on the first line, second line, third line and so forth. But -- looking at how we are matching our team, even now with so many injures -- we don't have 1-3 lines. 5 on 5, everyone more or less play the same, besides our 4th line right now. The diff in ice time 5 on 5 between our No 2 D and no 5 D and No 2 forward and no 10 forward is like 1 minute 30 sec. Why are people so upset with how AV matches the team? I can't quiet figure that out.

Ola


Sun Jan 1 2017 9:41 am EST

Happy new year boys and girls. i was hoping santa would bring AV a pair of balls but they would have just fallen out of that chasm. See you guys after these bunch of figure skaters get bounced in the first round ;).

_Arc


Sun Jan 1 2017 9:14 am EST

Isn't it reasonable to assume Gorton has some trading chips given the fact that despite missing 3 forwards, all of whom one could argue are top 6, the Rangers are winning and scoring goals as they do? Of course, that could also mean Gorton would have to consider parting with someone like Stepan or Kreider or MIller because you gotta give to get (and I'm referring here to a young top 4 d-man, a hole in the current lineup that many on here are expressing their concerns about recently). Packaging say Lindberg and Puempel while attractive on the part of Ranger fans in terms of lessening the roster impact, won't get you that player (perhaps a veteran bottom pairing d-man might be fetched but that's not a need - already have KK and G for that role). Others on here muse about trades that include a high draft pick - IMO, Gorton isn't going to do that anymore (at least not for a while); he has remarked more than once lately about the team's need to retain their picks to help restock the organization's feeder system. AV seems to adore Stepan and given Kreider's somewhat unique skill package, not to mention his projection to finally hit the 30 goal mark; therefore, I am beginning to believe if that young top 4 d-man is to be acquired, a key player going the other way will be JT Miller. Am I advocating trading away Miller? For the record, no. I'd rather see Stepan moved. Z can slide into his spot and probably quite nicely, too. Just some new year's day musings here for ya all!

RF4L


Sun Jan 1 2017 9:13 am EST

Wild, playing devils advocate here...but what exactly did you expect the AV players to say after that loss? They are 30 out of 30 in the NHL and they just lost by 4 goals at home. They cant say what they really feel which is probably 'we suck'.

WIOSA


Sun Jan 1 2017 9:10 am EST

Happy New Year Wallsters...

WIOSA


Sun Jan 1 2017 8:43 am EST

Kreider: WOOHOO!

RF4L


Sun Jan 1 2017 8:43 am EST

Happy new year one and (w)all!

RF4L


Sun Jan 1 2017 6:34 am EST

Happy new year all! So out here in Colorado ( had to work and couldn't go to the game) it's crazy, the AVS players post game were all talking about how they played "hard" for 60 minutes and how they played well but "they" (being the Rangers) "got a couple of bounces". Really....that's all it was....Rangers got a couple of bounces and otherwise it was even....really AVS...really? No wonder they don't change anything in their game and why they continue to be such a bad team, they feel that they are just unlucky and not getting the bounces. Sure the Rangers got a couple bounces and the As had a couple go against them....but clearly it's more than that

Wildcard


Sun Jan 1 2017 1:45 am EST

Happy New Year everyone

tlats


Sun Jan 1 2017 12:55 am EST

Happy New Year to the greatest group pf Rangers fans on the internet. Been here for a very long time. I hope 2017 is a wonderful year for all of you. Even HOSPO!

Bob


Sat Dec 31 2016 11:22 pm EST

WIOSA: HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and to the rest of the WALLSTERS!!

DOUBLEN


Sat Dec 31 2016 11:03 pm EST

NN, I fear youre right. I was hoping we could get a good year out of G, becuase he bleeds Ranger blue but its just not there. He is also being used too much again. Im not so worried about our goalies as I am the defense. Just dont know where we can get a young dynamic dman...and how do we afford him? As for Columbus,,,where the hell did they come from? They werent even in my rear view last season. I dont know if theyll stay the course, hard to say. Happy New Year btw.

WIOSA


Sat Dec 31 2016 10:33 pm EST

WIOSA: How about Columbus not losing in 15 games. Unless this team finds a RHD to play with MCD and Hank can somehow play like a NHL goalie for a series this team will be going nowhere in the playoffs.

DOUBLEN


Sat Dec 31 2016 10:29 pm EST

WIOSA:

DOUBLEN


Sat Dec 31 2016 10:27 pm EST

@#$ Pittsburgh just keeps winning.

WIOSA


Sat Dec 31 2016 9:59 pm EST

30 goals for the K-Man this year. Next 3-4 seasons are his prime. Hope we acquire a goalie so his years aren't wasted and the Cup window remains open a few inches. Hank: Vegas bait! Yeah I know. But I think he's on the skids.

Nick


Sat Dec 31 2016 9:44 pm EST

and a hat trick for Kreider!

WIOSA


Sat Dec 31 2016 9:43 pm EST

Kreider Hattrick... A Krei-trick?

Rhet0ric


Sat Dec 31 2016 9:32 pm EST

It's Miller time!

Rhet0ric


Sat Dec 31 2016 8:59 pm EST

common guys, this is not a good team.

WIOSA


Sat Dec 31 2016 8:57 pm EST

Should have been offsetting penalties.

Rhet0ric


Sat Dec 31 2016 8:47 pm EST

At this point not sure who is worse...Girardi or Klein....PP goal by McD....Wait...The first shot went in....Kreider again!.....2-1 Rangers....

PJ


Sat Dec 31 2016 8:41 pm EST

Early on Cerny was a great resource for insight. In time he stopped it and became a source of fluff as half the pressers he was the only one called on to control the narrative. This new girl has been as useless as friggin puck bunnies during TV timeouts. Sure, maybe they look hot but I could care less. I don't watch hockey for hot girls. I want insight and information.

E


Sat Dec 31 2016 8:24 pm EST

TradeStar28: Jim Cernys replacement is much easier on the eyes for one thing (at least IMHO) but Jim was a good source of info and I don't know about his new lady as of yet, if she will be able to get the I side info. But it does take time to build those connections so we shall see

Wildcard


Sat Dec 31 2016 6:42 pm EST

TD...BTW lost in the limelight of Matthews and Marner for the Leafs is William Nylander. He's equally skilled and has the best shot of the 3. Babcock has been giving him the tough love treatment yo-yoing him between the 4th line and others. And Kadri is maturing into a fine 2 way centre with an edge. Their organizational hole right now is on D. Reilly and the Russian 25 yr old rookie are solid and Gardner has his moments but there's a big drop off after that. Matt Hunwick is a regular fixture back there....

RF4L


Sat Dec 31 2016 6:40 pm EST

Check the video. They completely botched the American flag, which never was raised during the anthem. I figure the Russians hacked the flag ceremony. Of course, the people who remained in the ACC were completely gracious and cheered when it was over as the wonderful Canadian fans always are.

Bob


Sat Dec 31 2016 6:37 pm EST

Bob....wtf happened?

RF4L


Sat Dec 31 2016 6:33 pm EST

TD....oh yeah. As you know that bugs the hell outa me....

RF4L


Sat Dec 31 2016 6:26 pm EST

On behalf of all Americans, we forgive the officials at the ACC for screwing up the flag ceremony on account of it as raising banners is not something they have ever had to do.

Bob


Sat Dec 31 2016 5:52 pm EST

RF4L - yeah man...things are going to look up in short order for the Leafs. Can't remember a time in modern history when they had so many good prospects...Bruins and the Flyers both have tons of players in this tourney...I heard the Flyers had the most and TBH, I'm struggling to find them all. Me thinks they must not be guys that are stirring much here...will say I've got a lot of remorse for the Rangers not picking 20th through the third round these last two drafts...Greenway, White, Branco, Fitzgerald, Fabbro...all late first/second rounders that the Rangers didn't have a shot at because of their lack of high picks.

tdchi


Sat Dec 31 2016 5:48 pm EST

their = Islander fans...

RF4L


Sat Dec 31 2016 5:47 pm EST

Also agreed on Strome. Very disappointing for Canada and he's got the C. I like Barzal though. He might help their fans forget about Strome junior!

RF4L


Sat Dec 31 2016 5:33 pm EST

TD: Yep, your US squad playing a sound game for sure. Agreed on the Leafs future. Apparently, the Flyers are the most prospects in the tourney and that's with 2 19 year olds on their current team.

RF4L


Sat Dec 31 2016 5:06 pm EST

Watching the US giving Canada the business...couple thoughts: Dylan STROME may be just about as overrated as his brother...the Lafs won't be so laughable in a couple years...between MARNER, MATTHEWS and BRACCO, plus this kid WOLL? Toronto is going to be a contender very soon...this kid GREENAWAY is something special....with him and COYLE in the mix, the Wild are going to be a very tough team...refs in these games clearly have an eye that benefits Canada. Shall we call it Crosby-style reffing? This is the weakest Canadadian team I've seen in a very long time...didn't have high hopes for the US especially after they cut DeBRINNCAT...but these kids are making their country proud....Bruins have someone special in Charlie McAVOY. Bruins are going to be another team that will be very tough to beat in a couple years.

tdchi


Sat Dec 31 2016 4:54 pm EST

not sure if this was ever brought up.......Thoughts about Amanda Borges taking over this year for that old dude (forgot his name)......

TradeStar28


Sat Dec 31 2016 3:58 pm EST

Craps Tom Wilson hit former Ranger John Moore from behind and put him on a stretcher......News at 11

TradeStar28


Sat Dec 31 2016 2:51 pm EST

Debbies getting spanked by the Caps 5-1

rangerlou


Sat Dec 31 2016 1:49 pm EST

ColoradoMark, I was thinking of going to the game tonight, but airfare is through the roof right now! But did want to ask you about Colorado, as I'm thinking of moving there! Enjoy the game, hopefully the Rangers don't forget to show up!

Jerry_Garcia


Sat Dec 31 2016 11:47 am EST

Back to trolling.................

mf


Sat Dec 31 2016 10:53 am EST

mf - LARSEN would be a good eighth defender. That's about it. Think: Poorman's HUNWICK.

tdchi


Sat Dec 31 2016 6:39 am EST

CM don't forget to say hello to the siblings....http://nypost.com/2016/12/31/rangers-siblings-get-inside-look-at-what-life-on-road-is-really-like/

stevielegs


Fri Dec 30 2016 10:05 pm EST

I'll be ringing in the New Year at Pepsi Center tomorrow night! I'm hoping they show up to play, can't deal with Avs fans. Anyone else going? Wildcard? Ranger fans will be out in force, especially with fair weather fans here. And newspaper columnist will complain about how obnoxious out of town fans who live here are. The guy thinks people go just because they want to be contrarian, and that they never watched the team when they live there.

ColoradoMark


Fri Dec 30 2016 2:09 pm EST

Who decides d on the ice buekkiddiecut or ass vipe?

stevielegs


Fri Dec 30 2016 2:01 pm EST

In the meantime, trolling for RHS D'men, does anyone have an update or anything to chime in of Vancouver's Phillip Larsen? .... NJ's Taylor Hall knocked him into the ozone a while back but I'm unaware he he was diagnosed as "concussed." ... Larsen (a RHS) is an UFA at season's end Here's what Elite Prospects has to say about Larsen: Larsen has average size, but other than that, he shows a rather all-around arsenal of skills. He is blessed with good speed, technical skills and very good hockey sense, which is his greatest quality. Really a smart player, that sees openings that many other players are unable to. He plays mature and appears to be relaxed and confident on the ice. Perhaps more noticeable offensively than defensively, but rather solid in his own end, despite having to work with the physical aspect of the game. - See more at: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=6006#sthash.SJQrYaRA.dpuf

mf


Fri Dec 30 2016 1:56 pm EST

KK and G together? NOthing surprises me anymore when it comes to AV roster decisions. Sometimes he wins despite himself it seems.

RF4L


Fri Dec 30 2016 1:33 pm EST

Girardi: IMO needs to be playing 3rd pair situations & minutes, and barring a serious injury he can probably keep going into his late 30's.. Rozsival (RHS) is still ticking along and Chi-town keeps winning. (yeah the rest of their roster more than compensates) Our problem with Girardi at this point is his salary, so the buyout after the season looks more & more likely .........

mf


Fri Dec 30 2016 12:50 pm EST

Bwhahhahahhahahhaha!!!!! HALAK waived by the Isles!

tdchi


Fri Dec 30 2016 12:19 pm EST

No surprise though....It was easy to see before the season that the right D would be an issue....Girardi totally predictable....Klein not so much but is offset by a real good showing by Holden.....Staal was another concern but he seems to be getting more aggressive as the season goes on.....

PJ


Fri Dec 30 2016 11:47 am EST

When saw the slo-mo replay of the AZ 3rd goal my first reaction was: WTF are Girardi and Klein doing out there together? 4 lefties and 2 righties on the roster and you have the 2 righties out there together? Face it..........the Rangers D corps is in need of an upgrade. Think of how much WORSE it would be if not for Holden being there. Klein has not had a good season and Girardi is a very expensive hot mess......seemingly getting worse after a respectable start to the year. I wonder how good McDonagh would be without a partner that he has to drag around. Too bad there is no help coming from Hartford. At least, not yet.

Bob


Fri Dec 30 2016 11:35 am EST

Who woulda thunk Matt Puempel would have more goals in less games than Anthony Duclair....

tdchi


Fri Dec 30 2016 11:32 am EST

Gotta confess I too was a bit perplexed to see GIRARDI and KLEIN together, much less on the PK. Wasn't surprised to see a guy wheel around them like pylons though.

tdchi


Fri Dec 30 2016 10:16 am EST

so tomorrow night 1 team's winning streak will end as the wild play the jackets.....

stevielegs


Fri Dec 30 2016 10:14 am EST

Rick Carpiniello ‏@RickCarpiniello 11h11 hours ago Wow, Coyotes player shot the puck at the ref. ... Rick Carpiniello ‏@RickCarpiniello 11h11 hours ago BTW, what a decision to play Girardi on the left with Klein on that PK with three lefties on the bench. ...... Rick Carpiniello ‏@RickCarpiniello 11h11 hours ago Awful call, worse play by Girardi.

stevielegs


Fri Dec 30 2016 9:17 am EST

As for Columbus, we'll see. I'm not sure whether their youth will be an asset or a detriment when they get to the playoffs...frankly, I think it'll be the latter...And again, if we're putting our chips on teams we think will make it to the end, I'd be very hesitant to put them on the Jackets. Like I said: BOB goes down, and the floor drops out on that team. I don't think any of their other goalies could fill in for him in any meaningful way...we shall see. I don't begrudge Tortorella for his ability get the most out of his players...what I begrudge is his inability formulate any sort of cohesive game plan other than to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks...I don't see him making the finals before the wheels fall off his team...but we agree: The Jackets have a ton of talent. They certainly have the soldiers it takes to go deep.

tdchi


Fri Dec 30 2016 9:00 am EST

stepunmytoe - agreed on SHATTENKIRK...and that scares me. He's a guy I could see them overpaying for only to have him under-perform...But here's some interesting food for thought: Shattenkirk is a pending UFA...think he's also a guy who has been a little implicit about his desire to play in New York... they could acquire him, leave him unprotected and then resign him after the expansion draft.

tdchi


Fri Dec 30 2016 8:55 am EST

Tell you what: If PUEMPEL turns out to be even half the player the Sens thought he was when they drafted him, he's going to be a hell of a find for the Rangers. I'm not sold on the guy's all-around game, but he's one dangerous mo'fo around the net. He's very effective there, and that's probably why AV has him on the second powerplay unit...Seems to be defensively reliable too... I'm frankly a little surprised the Sens waived him at this point. Seems like a player they could have at least traded for a pick.will be interesting to see what the Rangers do with him, HRIVIK and PIRRI when the team is healthy.

tdchi


Fri Dec 30 2016 8:49 am EST

I don't think there is, was or ever will be any other plan than to buy out GIRARDI at the end of the season. I think the Rangers hope and may continue to hope they can trade him much in the same way the Hawks divested themselves of BICKELL or the Panthers with BOLLAND...And I also think there remains a hope the Rangers can keep Girardi a serviceable D-man...in fact, I think he WOULD be a serviceable sixth or seventh defender...I think he's got more life in him than one would gather from watching him in games last night...the bottom line also remains that the Rangers will be short three of their most talented players, and the change to the Rangers' game has left Girardi exposed in much of the same way he was last season...But there's no denying the weakness this team has on the right side...and had they not hit pay dirt with HOLDEN, it'd likely look a lot worse...The team absolutely needs to find someone they can use to improve the right side...and likely that will mean trading KLEIN to do it...I hear a lot of talk about CLENDENING...and how they should simply swap him with Girardi or Klein...but that's a putting a bandaid on the wound...it's a stopgap at best...Clendening isn't bad...he's a serviceable sixth-seventh guy on most nights...but therein lies the problem...they need a top-four blueliner for the right side...Were it not for the expansion draft, I'd say they might as well trade for a legit top-pairing guy...like maybe Justin FAULK or Tyson BARRIE...and of course TROUBA...even Dougie HAMILTON wouldn't be a bad option...but the cost coupled with the need to protect him during the expansion draft...well, I think whatever solution they find will have to be a step below that caliber or a player that doesn't need to be protected...on the first list, maybe Connor MURPHY, Cody CECI of the Sens...Another guy who would be perfect would be Brett PESCE of the Canes...RF's boy ELLIS would be a perfect fit....I'd also call the Canucks about seeing if they'd move Jordan SUBBAN and VIRTANEN...kill two birds with one stone.

tdchi


Fri Dec 30 2016 6:57 am EST

http://nypost.com/2016/12/29/2016s-biggest-sports-splashes-from-the-sanchize-to-linsanity-2/

stevielegs


Fri Dec 30 2016 6:55 am EST

This was the first time in almost six years, back to since Feb. 4, 2010, since the Blueshirts have scored four power-plays goals in a game.

stevielegs


Fri Dec 30 2016 6:54 am EST

"But the Rangers got four power-play goals on seven chances, three of them from Matt Puempel for the 23-year-old’s first career hat trick, "

stevielegs


Fri Dec 30 2016 6:53 am EST

http://nypost.com/2016/12/30/rick-nashs-return-to-rangers-pushed-back-a-week/

stevielegs


Fri Dec 30 2016 6:53 am EST

"Defenseman Adam Clendening was set to be the only “healthy” scratch, having played a solid 18:40 against the Wild on Dec. 23 when Vigneault decided to bench rookie Brady Skjei. Clendening has now played in just four games since Oct. 22, getting into nine total in the first 38 total."

stevielegs


Fri Dec 30 2016 6:01 am EST

Time for ass vipe to play Clem more to give girardi and Klein some rest ....along with the rest of the d corp.... it's called rotate that's why they have 7 d....the pruchaing Big Mac treatment is not a good philosophical concept....

stevielegs


Fri Dec 30 2016 1:05 am EST

With the Flyers tied for 10th, 5 of the top 10 teams, and the top 3, in the overall standings are Metro Division. One hell of a year for the metro

Wildcard


Fri Dec 30 2016 12:11 am EST

Puemprl the Ranger ride...

RF4L


Fri Dec 30 2016 12:10 am EST

Girardi forcing the unwanted decision to buy him out this spring despite tbe painful cap hit. Sather sucks....

RF4L


Fri Dec 30 2016 12:03 am EST

We want to Puempel you up!

TradeStar28


Fri Dec 30 2016 12:02 am EST

Puempin' Aint Easy

TradeStar28


Fri Dec 30 2016 12:02 am EST

Puempel up the jam!

TradeStar28


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:45 pm EST

Agreed on GIRARDI...Rangers need to find a top two on the right. G and KLEIN ain't gonna cut it. Wouldn't trade anyone from the top nine, but would upgrade that side come hell or high waterl. Immediately.

tdchi


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:41 pm EST

Wow. Puempel the power play secret weapon. Have to give Vigneault credit for pushing that button.

Bob


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:37 pm EST

Pimple popped a hat trick. Woot woot woot woot!

rangerlou


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:35 pm EST

Pumpel-Tricksin......

mf


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:31 pm EST

Yes, and with Clendening available I just don't get Vigneault not giving him some nights off periodically

Bob


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:28 pm EST

Bob; Yep. He played well to start but with no D depth and no rest he will be the Girardi we have all come to dislike. Only a matter of time. It will get worse. Been worried about the D depth for some time.

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:25 pm EST

Brings me no joy to bag on a loyal, hard working guy like Girardi but he is clearly done.

Bob


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:22 pm EST

Pimple loves the front of the net !

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:22 pm EST

PP goal for Pimple!

PJ


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:16 pm EST

Girardi a disaster out there....Both the 2nd and 3rd Yotes goals involve him....Need to take this game over now....

PJ


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:14 pm EST

Same old BULLSHIT. Stop skating and start chasing the puck

rangerlou


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:12 pm EST

What then heck were Girardi and Klein doing out there together as the PK pair? Sheesh.

Bob


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:09 pm EST

Girardi sux

puckyou


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:09 pm EST

Girardi sux

puckyou


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:07 pm EST

Duke dive. Shit call.

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:03 pm EST

TD; Got a feeling it will be Shattenkirk somehow, someway.

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 10:59 pm EST

Girardi sucks no wonder where you put him- unless blocking a shot- uselesss. He has the weakest stick I've ever seen- like mite jockey strength - can never clear the puck with authority.

puckyou


Thu Dec 29 2016 10:53 pm EST

Duguay and ass vipe switch jackets tonight?

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 10:30 pm EST

The question has been asked: What right-handed blue liner should the Rangers target to help sure up that side of the ice and bring in someone who can move the puck. Well, take a look at Conner MURPHY. He's not flashy...but a kid that could be available on the cheap who could sure up the right side.

tdchi


Thu Dec 29 2016 10:27 pm EST

Tell you what...HOLDEN is making Gorton look like a genius and also giving the Rangers some serious pause to think...if the expansion draft was held today, who would be grabbed by Vegas? Holden or RAANTA? Or someone else? Right now, I'd say Holden, with the way he's played, could very well be the guy picked. He's been lights out.

tdchi


Thu Dec 29 2016 10:06 pm EST

GOOOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL!!! Kid K. With the Papa John goal

rangerlou


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:55 pm EST

MSG hockey show sucks. Would rather watch revenge of planet of the apes.

heston


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:52 pm EST

Caps lose in SHOOTOUT to the Debbies

rangerlou


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:47 pm EST

When pp and pk are successful winning becomes easier...imagine gianone making a big deal that the coaches are coaching.... what a novel concept,.,:

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:41 pm EST

The hockey show is a sludge fire. Totally embarrassing product.

E


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:32 pm EST

Girardi and Skjei is your 3rd D pair tonight. How about that.

Bob


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:28 pm EST

Moof perfect game bowling for $

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:26 pm EST

Guess the Holden acquisition was a good one.

Bob


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:25 pm EST

When this team skates and passes well.We are unstoppable.

rangerlou


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:23 pm EST

Good pass by JT. I don't like Zucc on the PP.

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:22 pm EST

Nick Orr

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:22 pm EST

Holy Holden

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:20 pm EST

Step ill watch that because that new MSG Hockey Show really BLOWS

rangerlou


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:14 pm EST

My bad. Goes to the Pimple.

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:14 pm EST

Pimple popping

E


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:13 pm EST

Holy Holden. This guy is on a roll.

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:03 pm EST

Lou; Nick Fotiu, Darren Langdon show. Maybe throw in a Ron Greschner. What a show !!!

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 8:57 pm EST

TD; I won't be a "f&cktard" pining for Torts. But it's not unreasonable to ask if perhaps Torts has "adjusted" his coaching approach in what could most likely have been his last shot at coaching in this league. I have watched a lot of Jacket games this year and yes, they play heavy and seem to put out a 110% effort every night. Not sure how that is a bad thing. Winning, particularly 13 in a row would seem to overshadow the pain of blocking shots which they do not rely on nearly as much as when he coached here. They're PP is legit scary and they do have a ton of good young talent. It would not surprise me at all to see them in the conference finals.

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 8:56 pm EST

Step...Absolutely! !!!!!!! I think we need The Nicky Fotiu Hockey Show.I'll watch that

rangerlou


Thu Dec 29 2016 8:24 pm EST

Lou; How is Anson Carter, a guy who played 54 games for this franchise so ingrained in MSG ? Wouldn't you want a more prominent Ranger doing what he is doing ? Oh well, your take is funny.

stepunmytoe


Thu Dec 29 2016 7:55 pm EST

That new MSG Hockey Show really BLOWS....Just saying.

rangerlou


Thu Dec 29 2016 7:33 pm EST

13th frame?

mf


Thu Dec 29 2016 6:42 pm EST

Jooris revenge night?..moof if hanzal gets 1point that makes 300 ....

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 6:32 pm EST

Tdchi- Two of the best prospects out there (Keller and Kaprizov) went very late in the draft. Speed and puck skill, speed and puck skill, speed and puck skill. How many kids got picked because they were 6'3+? How many forwards 6'3 or bigger are playing well in the NHL, five? Six? Seven? How many midgets, 30?

Ola


Thu Dec 29 2016 6:30 pm EST

TD...the little I've seen pf Keller has been enough to remind me of the Leafs Mitch Marner. Similar is size style and skillset.

RF4L


Thu Dec 29 2016 6:28 pm EST

.preview .....https://www.nhl.com/news/c-285134296

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 6:24 pm EST

E- Couldn't agree more!

Ola


Thu Dec 29 2016 6:04 pm EST

If I had a dollar every time someone predicted a team would be formidable in a few years and didn't live up to the hype I'd be upgrading my car. I'm still waiting on Colorado, Dallas, Edmonton, Florida, the Sabres, the Jets... yada yada yada... talent I've long bought into is one thing. So many teams have talent but that talent doesn't carry the team ultimately. There is so much parity.

E


Thu Dec 29 2016 5:49 pm EST

Zborovskiy.......Dumb move there. Clearly deliberate move there. Thompson made a mess of the PS.

Bob


Thu Dec 29 2016 5:11 pm EST

jitters problem seems to be between his ears..... along with brain farts....

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 4:19 pm EST

Granted, there wasn't much of a way for the Rangers to get to the top 10 even WITH their draft pick...but man, did they and 29 other teams really miss out on Clayton KELLER. That kid could be a superstar. The Coyotes are going to have a very dynamic team in a couple years.

tdchi


Thu Dec 29 2016 3:22 pm EST

It is Raanta in net again tonight in Arizona.

tracerm


Thu Dec 29 2016 2:16 pm EST

Re: MILLER - Like I said yesterday...certainly the hope would be when a top-six guy goes down, that a player like him or HAYES would step up to take the reins...I have a feeling that any of this so-called 'tough love' Brooksie is citing is more of a gentle nudge to Miller to recognize the opportunity that is before him...Again, I don't see a big issue with his game...just he's a victim of the whole lineup getting shuffled.

tdchi


Thu Dec 29 2016 2:12 pm EST

Re: TROUBA - No surprises there at all...Still not sure what he would have cost before he signed, but his value is only going up from here. Heard a rumor the Jets intend to trade him before his bridge deal is done because they know he's going to tack a couple more mill onto what he was asking for before...I'd still throw a call out to the Jets...especially as MYERS gets ready to return...because one of those guys is going on the market.

tdchi


Thu Dec 29 2016 2:09 pm EST

RF4L - re: Columbus - I'm of two thoughts...first is that they DO have a boatload of talent on the roster and their inability to do anything with it was more perplexing than their meteoric rise in the standings. Pretty sure it was last year when I was saying they'd be a hell of a team soon...and then they shit the bed...but Columbus has been a team that has lived and died on goaltending...and that's because BOBROVSKY is a hell of a tender...but he also has a very regular tendency of getting injured...if that happens, BOOM. Tampa falls back to earth faster that the rate of gravitational acceleration....My second thought is that, despite all this sudden gushing over Tortorella --not here, mind you, but among some fan circles --he really isn't a good coach...he gets players to play at 110 percent because he gets them to buy into his mantra...this hard-nosed brand of hockey...but you can only beat a horse so hard until it drops dead...teams weren't and still aren't meant to play his style of hockey...and eventually, the Jackets are going to get tired of blocking shots, banging bodies AND playing up tempo...they're going to get injured, tired and pissed...and that's when Torts' worst side will show...his willingness to play favorites and cut his nose off to spite his face...I could see that happening around game 70...then again, the Jackets are a VERY young team...and if there's something young kids are good at doing, it's expending more energy than seems possible...I don't think the Jackets will stay at the top...but I do think they'll make the playoffs. Maybe even the second round...I just don't see a way they can avoid flaming out. Like I said...good young team...LOTS of talent...the fact they can keep a guy like Sonny MILANO in the AHL is evidence of that...We'll see, but in the meantime I'm going to sit here an snicker at all the f@cktards that are saying "oh man we shoulda kept Torts." True sign of a buffoon who couldn't tell hockey from tiddly winks right there.

tdchi


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:20 am EST

vote......http://fulltiltnyr.com/rangers-roundup-cold-miller-prospect-updates-captain-controversy/

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 11:00 am EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 1h1 hour ago It's Antti Raanta time in Arizona as Rangers’ Lundqvist will miss another start Thursday http://nwsdy.li/2hqyw3r via @newsday

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:30 am EST

TD: For you: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-trouba-getting-comfortable-jets-defence/

RF4L


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:27 am EST

Columbus sitting 2nd overall in the NHL standings this morning. Huh?? Gotta figure a big bubble burst is forthcoming. Isn't it?

RF4L


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:26 am EST

For those interested, Huska did not play in Slovakia's loss to the US yesterday in the WJCs...

RF4L


Thu Dec 29 2016 9:22 am EST

Miller is an interesting story, not to be mention frustrating. Is this going to be the story of his career?

RF4L


Thu Dec 29 2016 7:16 am EST

Blueshirts players will be accompanied by a brother or sister on the organization’s first Siblings trip. The Rangers previously have conducted both Fathers and Mothers Trips.

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 7:11 am EST

http://nypost.com/2016/12/28/vigneault-calls-out-j-t-miller-to-explain-shrinking-rangers-role/

stevielegs


Thu Dec 29 2016 12:08 am EST

Since it's after midnight: Emerson Lake & Palmer - Karn Evil 9 (Part 1) ...... From: Brain Salad Surgery .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFBpn7_uBQ

mf


Wed Dec 28 2016 11:11 pm EST

WIOSA: I only heard today! Emerson took his own life in March and Lake died of cancer earlier this month.

RF4L


Wed Dec 28 2016 11:09 pm EST

RF4L, sh*t I didnt even know they died!!! (Lucky Man remains one of my favorites) Cant wait for this lousy year to end.

WIOSA


Wed Dec 28 2016 11:07 pm EST

WIOSA: You missed Keith Emerson and Greg Lake in the distressing list...

RF4L


Wed Dec 28 2016 11:06 pm EST

**OFF TOPIC** Damn 2016 Go already. David Bowie, Prince, Mohammed Ali, Zza ZZA, Leonard Cohen, Glen Frey, John Glen, George Michael, Carrie Fisher and now Debbie Reynolds.

WIOSA


Wed Dec 28 2016 11:04 pm EST

For anyone who cares, Huska did not play for Slovakia in their loss to the US today...

RF4L


Wed Dec 28 2016 10:58 pm EST

If Gorther's getting a top 6 forward he'd better get the approval of such a move from the coach first, lest that coach ensure the newly acquired forward is put in a position to underachieve.

RF4L


Wed Dec 28 2016 8:59 pm EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/report-blackhawks-panarin-come-to-terms-on-two-year-contract-extension

mf


Wed Dec 28 2016 6:51 pm EST

MF I think we can cool the Jets on trades. I agree with you but I don't think any team is moving anybody this season unless something breaks at the deadline. Nobody is moving. Is it the expansion? Cap? Probably it's just the unknowns. This is the New York Rangers. For better or worse. There just isn't help coming. At least not that we can expect. They are who they are.

E


Wed Dec 28 2016 5:00 pm EST

Wildcard - Maybe. I don't think, however, the bump-and-grind game is really conducive to bringing out the best in either HAYES or MILLER...Hayes, for certain, is more suited for a highly-skilled game...Miller can play the boards very effectively...but I don't think the dump-and-chase game really utilizes his best assets.

tdchi


Wed Dec 28 2016 4:56 pm EST

mf - here's the issue: You get a "legitimate top-six forward" and where are you going to put him when NASH, BUCHENVICH and ZIBANAJED come back? To me, that sounds like a move that would be akin to acquiring Eric STAAL last year...looks good on paper maybe...but...even if you can do that move without disrupting the forward lines too much...you run the risk of stymieing your top six addition if you put him on the bottom four...or one of your original top-six fowards if you put him in the top two...I don't think that's a wise move...

tdchi


Wed Dec 28 2016 4:17 pm EST

On the Rangers injuries....some people want to kind of side step the impact of the players lost to injury. I mean how many teams can lose a top 2 center, and a top line wing along with a good rookie top 9 wing and not skip a beat? I can't think of any teams that wouldn't have some sort of setback, they may win more than lose, but if you watch closely you would be able to see that they are not doing so as easily or as well. It can't be expected that the Rangers could lose 3 top 9 guys with two out of the top 6 and just keep on going like they had.

Wildcard


Wed Dec 28 2016 4:12 pm EST

RF4L: I am glad to hear you say Huska was tracking the puck well. I think I have said it here, I have a friend who sees some Uconn games and thought he had a hard time with that at times, and perhaps the style of play in the NCAA makes it harder, but if he can do it in the WJC he can learn to do it anyplace I would think.

Wildcard


Wed Dec 28 2016 4:08 pm EST

td: Good point on Hayes/Miller. As you said they wee not the targets of the other teams before, and now they are. Simply put, when the Rangers are healthy up front there are just too many players for the other team to put their top D players on. Both these guys have never really been the center of attention at the NHL level like they are now, both were really hot when the other guys went down, so teams naturally had to start to worry about them, and they got some focus, its something you need to learn to get around unless your one of those really top end guys like Crosby or Ovechkin, and even they are effected by it some. I think that if Miller and Hayes had to do this the rest of the season we would see their numbers start to come up a bit over time as they adjusted their games.

Wildcard


Wed Dec 28 2016 1:44 pm EST

re: the depth topic: IMO we need to create a package where we can acquire a legitimate top six forward. We can then rummage around for bottom 6 or bottom 3 filler, they are easier to find.. Once the injured return to the lineup, the remaining players can be more appropriately slotted in position of their skill levels, and we become deeper through the 4 lines.... jmhcjao

mf


Wed Dec 28 2016 1:35 pm EST

E - agree 100 percent. I guess the question is, are the Rangers just not deep enough to play this sort of game? I mean, if the injuries were to say FAST and PIRRI, I don't think they would have skipped a beat...so is it bad luck to have the players down who are down, or is it a sign the team isn't deep enough up front? I edge toward the former more than the latter...but it's an interesting question.

tdchi


Wed Dec 28 2016 11:56 am EST

TD: you hate to blame injuries because all teams suffer it but a team that started the season with a 4th line that had uncontainable speed the shortening of the bench has really muffed that up. Right now 3 of their top-6 are hobbled. The bottom-9 are broken up to fill in the top-6. Pretty much they are discombobulated right now. And so wins come from gut checks, There won't be a Nash keeping the game tighter by back checking with authority. There won't be waves of offense with Z and Buch. You're gonna have to play a gritty game that is behind the goal line. I just don't think the bottom-6 is equipped to do that consistently. Too much sizzle and not enough grizzle. The New York Rangers success is based on waves of 20-goal scorers rushing and pushing the pace and constantly posssessing the puck. It works great when their is depth. Remove it and they need to fall back to a gritty persona that they displayed last night. Because last night they played great. But last night for as much as we admire that kind of effort that just isn't who they are. I'd be pleasantly surprised if the New York Rangers could continue that style of play. Instead I think they'll go right back to that mode of late. A sizzle team with a dim and failing afterburner. I truly believe that as Z and Buch come back and Nash returns most of the New York Rangers issues will take care of themselves as they will play to their strengths and they'll be formidable.

E


Wed Dec 28 2016 11:56 am EST

Check this out....hilarious and makes you feel happy for the team: http://www.tsn.ca/must-see/video/must-see-denmark-celebrates-upset-win-with-boisterous-celebration~1024209

RF4L


Wed Dec 28 2016 11:52 am EST

TD: Oh I'm not keen on the blended teams, as much fun to watch as the under 24 team was. There really is no way around this, short of having like a 6 team tourney but as you say, it serves purposes beyond just providing pure hockey entertainment. I think all involved get it, including the lesser skilled teams. When those guys do win they celebrate like they've won the tourney. Check out the Danes celebrating yesterday's win for example - stuff being thrown about, some dude with a can of hair spray - pretty funny and enjoyable to watch.

RF4L


Wed Dec 28 2016 10:50 am EST

OAN: Someone mentioned yesterday the drop-off of MILLER and HAYES in the points department and I think there's a clear explanation for it that has absolutely nothing to do with the coach or motivation...I look at both players and while they've been quiet on the score sheet, it's not like either one is dogging it or even playing particularly bad...The HUGE difference between now and earlier in the season is that the Rangers really only have one dominant line, which is KREIDER-STEP-ZUCC. Miller, Hayes and I'll throw another name in there --Michael GRABNER --are now skating against other teams' second lines. Before they were getting out there against third and fourth lines...so instead of being able to manhandle the grinder lines with skill and speed, they're having to themselves play a grinder role almost against second lines that are at least AS talented, if not more so(see the Pens, Wild). Would've been nice if both rose to the occasion and continued to produce...but I think their quick start had A LOT to do with the teams absolutely forced into pairing their best skaters against the likes of ZIBANAJED and NASH...and then playing back on their heels against Miller, Hayes and Co.

tdchi


Wed Dec 28 2016 10:43 am EST

RF4L - See, I'm of the opposite mind. I think the WJC should by no means allow a Franken-team like the ones in the World Cup...I think the WJCs are a barometer for how a nation's hockey program is doing...I mean, I remember a few years back when the Swiss were whipping boys...and now lo and behold, they're starting to compete....and the Danes? Beating Finland? That's flat-out madness...and as I mentioned yesterday, the US squad was, at the very least, pushed back on their heels for two periods by the Latvians...certainly, the US, Canada, Russia and to a lesser degree, the Swedes and Fins will always be favorites...it's just where those programs are in this day and age...And it will always be tough for these small countries to compete...but the WJCs also give nations a benchmark as they grow their NTDP. I actually really like the format, because you never know who the bottom feeder teams will be or what they'll bring. And you never know when one of these countries will produce a generational talent that could offset the status quo, as unlikely as that may be.

tdchi


Wed Dec 28 2016 10:05 am EST

Huska played the entire game for the Slovaks. I'm making a prediction here - this kid is the real deal and will be an NHL goalie one day. He's got the classic big goalie style down - covers a ton of net automatically but moves side to side and up and down fluidly. He tracks the puck very well and is sound positionally. Some of the saves he made, especially in the first period, were incredible. What happened, however, is he understandably got tired as the game went on. Canada was constantly in the Slovak end controlling the puck and as a result, Huska was constantly going side to side and up and down. In the first, he was like a jack in the box, moving sprightly in his crease. By about 1/2 way thru the second period, not so much. By the third period, you could see the exhaustion in his body - he'd hang his head and sort of crouch when the puck left the Slovak zone. The Slovaks play the US today - it'll be interesting to see if Huska starts - his play warrants it but will he be too tired? Apparently, last year he played all but 7 minutes of the tourney. The Canadian announcers, early in the third, was musing about the coach puling him to he can rest for today's game but perhaps the intent is to start the other goalie. He was last year's backup and only played 7 minutes - maybe as a reward, he'll start today. The Slovaks still have the Russians and Latvia to play after this - the only game they have a chance in will be the latter. Gotta figure that one for sure Huska will start in. Bottom line is this: Huska was superb against Canada.

RF4L


Wed Dec 28 2016 9:54 am EST

So I watched Canada demolish Slovakia yesterday and couple that with the Russians trouncing Latvia, it reinforces the world cup organizers desire to blend 2 teams. Not that that worked very well but these lopsided matches are just plain silly IMO. Canada was outshooting the Slovaks 31 to 3 at the end of the 2nd period. Just ridiculous.

RF4L


Wed Dec 28 2016 9:47 am EST

Second, kudos to Zuke and KK for responding to Neil's goonery. It's about freakin' time boys! And to read their mates marveling over that response and it's importance makes me shake my head - I mean DUH!!!!

RF4L


Wed Dec 28 2016 9:46 am EST

First kudos to Stepan for hollering at his teammates and then equally importantly, leading on the ice by example. 14 points in the past 13 games (or vice versa) - nice to see. I just wish he could be more consistent in that regard.

RF4L


Wed Dec 28 2016 8:20 am EST

vcp - I'm not going to defend that comparison, because it's flat-out ridiculous...but I think what he meant was that STEPAN gave the team a tongue lashing on the bench in the first and then in between the first and second...and not only did he do that, but he lead by example...while the rest of the team was sleepwalking, Step, uh...stepped up. He had a great game last night...so I think that's what he meant...Step emulating Messier the leader, not Messier the player.

tdchi


Wed Dec 28 2016 8:18 am EST

Denmark upsetting Finland...Fins with two losses now...going up against a juggernaut of Swedish team...Fins might not win a game in this tourney...man, how the mighty have fallen...couple years ago, seemed like the Fins would be on the top for a while...granted, they have three elite 19-year-olds now playing in the NHL...but seriously...figured they'd have a better showing than this. Losing to the Danes is...well...telling.

tdchi


Wed Dec 28 2016 12:29 am EST

Borderline dirty hit on Skjei in which his head hit the dasher boards. Zucc went right at him, as did Klein.

Bob


Tue Dec 27 2016 11:42 pm EST

So what did Neil do tonight? More importantly, what didn't the Rangers do in response? I realize the answer is nothing but how bad was it?

RF4L


Tue Dec 27 2016 10:30 pm EST

Trautwig called stephan messier like tonight. You must be FUCKIN KIDDING ME. NO ONE ON THIS TEAM BESIDES MAYBE KLEIN, JT, Kreider, ZUCCC come even close to his snarl. a deflection is not messier like. Beat the crap of neil and score 2 goals now we can talk. Give me a fucking break

vcp1994


Tue Dec 27 2016 10:25 pm EST

Isnt that the truth Zuccie has the biggest pair of balls. Klein, JT, Krieder, (now Vessey) Holden, Staal (somewhat) also some toughness. Mc'd Girardi pussified. Shea better wake the fuck up and protect himself and fight back. Where is Kisio ,george mcphee, larry melnyk when you need them, all small but would not take crap. Girardi is the new poti except he cant skate.

vcp1994


Tue Dec 27 2016 9:56 pm EST

Ugly... but maybe it snaps them outta the funk they've been in the last week.. Nice that the smallest guy on the team shows the biggest heart, sticking up for a team mate ... and can anyone tell me why Stone didn't get 2 for instigating the fight with Vesey?? ... Raanta was both brilliant and pathetic .....

sjw


Tue Dec 27 2016 9:51 pm EST

Gutsy win

stevielegs


Tue Dec 27 2016 9:48 pm EST

Best team win of the year

tlats


Tue Dec 27 2016 9:20 pm EST

Nicky boy

tlats


Tue Dec 27 2016 8:51 pm EST

RF4L's man Stepan is on fire.

Bob


Tue Dec 27 2016 8:42 pm EST

Stepan leading the way

tlats


Tue Dec 27 2016 8:41 pm EST

Wow wee

stevielegs


Tue Dec 27 2016 8:35 pm EST

Paging captain zero ... watch lil bazookerella if you want to learn how to stick up for your team....

stevielegs


Tue Dec 27 2016 8:31 pm EST

Neil has been doing that to Rangers for years I wish someone would drop that prick. It would have to be another team to make that happen though

tlats


Tue Dec 27 2016 8:18 pm EST

Bad call

rngrsans


Tue Dec 27 2016 8:09 pm EST

Hank has the flu or flew ...

stevielegs


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:54 pm EST

Where is Hank tonight? ?

rangerlou


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:49 pm EST

At this rate, maybe we will see Halverson play tonight.

Bob


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:47 pm EST

Denmark just beat Finland in Wjc

tlats


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:47 pm EST

I will repeat! Has AV prepared this team? You CANT skate thru the neutral zone but they try it over and over again

rngrsans


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:46 pm EST

17

WIOSA


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:44 pm EST

Si Si senor .... nyr always help guys who usually don't score.... antti looks like hanky.... must be contagious....

stevielegs


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:44 pm EST

Bring in the 20 year old and bench some players AV!

rngrsans


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:35 pm EST

I don't care how many forwards we have out...they have had 16 goals scored on them in 7 periods. Not good.

WIOSA


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:34 pm EST

Amazing how much Ottawa sucks if you take that 5th player off. Conduit has gotta want back that one.

E


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:31 pm EST

Ass vipe didn't watch the weather report so his flight was cancelled and he hitched a ride with Ottawa. He missed the morning skate. The nyr will be back in 2017 . It's holiday time not hockey time .

stevielegs


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:31 pm EST

Figured I'd changed to watch the Bruins Jackets game. Columbus scores 3 goals in the 3 minutes I am watching. What an offensive juggernaut that team is. What happened to Torts ?

stepunmytoe


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:31 pm EST

Another blow out loss and AV has to be on the hot seat....or is he another lifetime hire?

Fotiu22


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:25 pm EST

Unbelievable! Did they even prepare for the game? I still maintain that V doesn't push the right buttons. I know we are missing many top players but Hayes & Miller have fallen off the face of the earth..... And when the hell are we going to make a trade for defensive help?

rngrsans


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:17 pm EST

Rangers are imploding within a few minutes into the first period

rangerlou


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:16 pm EST

And to think I was looking forward to Rangers games again. Sheesh.

Bob


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:15 pm EST

NosenDick very exited about the Sens 2nd goal.

stepunmytoe


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:13 pm EST

This team is starting to BLOW BIG TIMES

rangerlou


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:07 pm EST

Ottawa is in town. Prepare for a 9-shot performance with zero flow and a 1-0 loss on a sketchy call. Who needs ambien when you've got the Sens?

E


Tue Dec 27 2016 6:27 pm EST

Raanta in net tonight vs Ottawa.

tracerm


Tue Dec 27 2016 3:24 pm EST

Agreed ice is huge. In Canada hockey is cultural. Rinks are everywhere. Even the smallest towns have rinks. For most up here winter is brutal - other than work and school hockey is one of the few reasons to leave the house from december until April...

RF4L


Tue Dec 27 2016 2:47 pm EST

USA Hockey has done a pretty good job of coaxing people to the sport. I just took my 3-year-old daughter down to a Try Hockey for Free event a few weeks back and it was amazing. She got all the equipment to use for an hour...had plenty of coaches down there to help if needed. Gave her a free jersey and a chance to feel what ice skating is like.. Lord knows whether she'll pick it up or not, but the day left a very good impression on her...Can't see going to one of these things and NOT feeling like you'd want to play...just a great environment and very encouraging for children....I've spent all of my adult life paying USA hockey for a membership that essentially provides me a flimsy magazine once a month...or at least it used to...but going to this event made all that money worth it...Also Buttman's expansion of the league has certainly seeded the sport in areas where it wouldn't have generated players...Austen MATTHEWS is a wonderful example of how his whole crazy idea to expand the sport by littering NHL franchises below the Mason-Dixon line has actually worked to a degree...And as much as I abhor Sid CROSBY, having him and OVECHKIN in the U.S. --especially Crosby --has probably boosted the draw if the sport immensely. Sort of like a reprise of what happened when GRETZKY moved south of the border...THAT SAID...hockey is an incredibly expensive sport...just buying the pads for my girl cost me around $150...and that's for used stuff too...and not including a stick or shorts...and that's before factoring icetime...I got the number of a learn-to-skate program and I shutter to think how much it will cost...so the main divide between the US using its 300-plus million population for hockey is that the sport is really only accessible by a very small percentage of people....those who have money and those who live in areas where ice is cheap/readily available...sure, if you live in Minnesota or New England where there's a rink on every corner, you're gonna be more likely to give it a shot...but for the rest of the US? We keep seeing generational lineages in the NHL for a reason...it ain't because these kids are just naturally talented...it's because they have access to all the free ice and equipment they need...so population size is certainly important...but access is so much more important. There's a reason why China and India aren't even considered for berths in international competitions...no access to ice...no chance of competing on the world level.

tdchi


Tue Dec 27 2016 2:00 pm EST

Wild: Yes there is obviously merit to that. Part of the equation, however, is funding - some countries have the funds while others don't. Here in Canada the fear is hockey enrollment at the youth level is in decline so our current strong showings at international tourneys will eventually slip. Meanwhile, more and more kids are playing the US. For sure, it appears to be a matter of time before the US is at the top.

RF4L


Tue Dec 27 2016 1:48 pm EST

RF4L: When it comes to the USA getting better at hockey at the international level, I always point this out, the USA has 330+ million people. If the USA decided to press a sport, or anything for that matter, there is a good chance that as a nation "we" can become one of the best. The same can be said for China and technically india if they ever got their act together being the top two in population in the world, Russia and Japan who have over 100 million, Canada starts at a disadvantage with "only" 35 million people....I mean, the USA has nearly 300 million more people to "farm" for a sport. Canada along with Finland and Sweden may always have a higher percentage of their citizens that reach a high level, but there are just so many people in the USA its more likely to find a roster full of good players.

Wildcard


Tue Dec 27 2016 1:47 pm EST

RF4L - Been a split of the two. Pretty much HALVERSON and HELLBERG are platooning. Halverson backstopped a good game against Tampa's farm team the other day...Cuse is leading their division too...then again, he came back a few days later and almost pissed away a 3-1 lead...Gotta admit I'm a little bit flumoxed that he's in Hartford and SKAPSKI is in Greenville...especially since the latter already has an NHL shutout to his credit...but more power to the Sieve if he can prove he's not one.

tdchi


Tue Dec 27 2016 1:45 pm EST

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie 3h3 hours ago Vigneault not on for skate either, caught in weather situation, is en route to NY.

stevielegs


Tue Dec 27 2016 1:22 pm EST

RF--Yep. All part of it, I guess. The World Cup mess was a step backwards for the USA, thanks to the idiots who had input into the construction of the team (Lombardi, Burke and Torts). They completely missed the mark and were humiliated. But next time, they will be better as the Team NA nonsense will not consume players the national team really needs.

Bob


Tue Dec 27 2016 1:16 pm EST

Bob: Too bad - in Canada there is politics but after we lost a few championships some soul searching and revamping of Hockey Canada was done and the country hasn't looked back. The biggest reason we aren't dominating as we did in the past is because other countries, specifically Sweden and Finland, also revamped their hockey organizations. In the US, you guys are simply (from what I can see) producing more hockey players than ever before and that trend isn't going nowhere but up from what I read and hear.

RF4L


Tue Dec 27 2016 1:11 pm EST

That's interesting - TD, has Halverseive been in the nets for the Pack winning streak?

RF4L


Tue Dec 27 2016 1:06 pm EST

Whoa....HALVERSIEVE promoted...Hank out with the Flu...

tdchi


Tue Dec 27 2016 12:16 pm EST

TD: Sergey Z turns 20 in 2017 so yes, he'll graduate from juniors. Unless of course, he ends up going back as an overager - can't see that happening at this point; given his magnificent year so far how could he top it?

RF4L


Tue Dec 27 2016 11:25 am EST

Well there is always a political aspect to World Junior teams. USA Hockey is a political organization as well as the US's development organization. If Day can overcome his personal issues, he is a prospect and that is a good thing for the Rangers.

Bob


Tue Dec 27 2016 11:18 am EST

RF4L - Not really sure what to make of Team USA, but I don't take DAY'S omission form their roster as meaning much. They cut Alex DeBRINCAT, who is absolutely shredding the OHL right now. While Day getting cut early was a bit of a head scratcher IMO, cutting a guy as talented as DiBrincat --and a guy who was very noticeable on the bronze medal winning club --was just ridiculous. Their coaches are certainly building a team far more based on a game plan/team identity than getting the most talented guys they have available...reminds me a bit of what Torts did with the World Championship team...which absolutely bit him in the ass as expected...and the U.S., which should have mauled Latvia, let that team hang in the game for two periods...6-1 total doesn't nearly explain what I was seeing in the first two periods, which was a US team that didn't come prepared for squat, much less a team that was ready to punch back...soooo...long-winded way of saying I wouldn't look too deeply into Day being shunned. I also think the kid has a pretty big stigma he's got to shed...you don't go from 'exceptional' status to a third-round pick because of a bad season...there's something about his mentality that coaches aren't quite sure about, IMO...still, he's putting up the same point totals as a guy the Canadiens drafted 9th overall...I think when Day arrives, we're going to all be pleasantly surprised...As for the Russian kid ZBOROVSKIY...I always temper expectations for anyone playing in the WHL...excellent sign he's picking up at the WJC where he left off in the WHL..I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure he's AHL-eligible starting next season...and what I didn't realize is that he's a righty...that's all good news for the Rangers.

tdchi


Tue Dec 27 2016 11:07 am EST

Thanks RFCAdmin! Sometimes an outage here and there is good...reminds us all of how special this little corner of cyberspace is ;)

tdchi


Tue Dec 27 2016 10:51 am EST

Hi folks -- hope everybody is enjoying the holiday season. We had an outage last week as I'm sure you've seen but have since recovered. To those who are concerned - there are no plans to shutdown RFC and if I ever do, I'll let you know well in advance. Thanks again for visiting and sharing your passion for the New York Rangers. It is a special community here and glad to be a part of it.

RFCAdmin


Tue Dec 27 2016 9:12 am EST

TD: I am disappointed that Day didn't get even a sniff from the USA WJC management. It's not a good sign but of course, nothing concrete can be taken from it. Perhaps next year he'll be there.

RF4L


Tue Dec 27 2016 9:11 am EST

FWIW, good article on the Rangers' 2 prospects in the WJC: http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2016/12/26/14074502/zborovskiy-huska-look-to-prove-themselves-at-world-juniors

RF4L


Tue Dec 27 2016 9:07 am EST

Saw part of the first period of Canada's WJC 5 3 win over Russia then the damn power went out at home and wasn't able to see any more. Early return on Zborovskiy is that he's big, seems good positionally but looked nervous, fumbling away the puck with minimal pressure twice (no goals resulted). He ended up with a + 1, which isn't surprising given his season so far.

RF4L


Tue Dec 27 2016 8:34 am EST

OAN: Here's something that will come as a bit of a surprise - The Wolfpack have now won four in a row. Not gonna say all those games were pretty...but a winning streak is a winning streak...yesterday brought a shellacking of the Bridgeport Sound Tigers(Islanders farm team)...and now they're creeping ever closer to the .500 mark...that's in part because of the spectacular play of Nick JENSEN, who had a hattrick last night and now has four goals and five points over his last three games. Adam TAMBELLINI, Boo NIEVES, and Ryan GRAVES have also regularly been showing up on the score sheet. KOVACS also looking more comfortable in the AHL...Been saying for some time the Pack aren't nearly as bad as their record suggests...and the addition of a guy like OKSANEN is big...still not sure why he wasn't on the roster to start...but hey...here's to hoping they've turned the corner.

tdchi


Tue Dec 27 2016 8:02 am EST

Incidentally, a guy I wanted the Rangers to sign that ended up getting picked up by Hartford...and then subsequently demoted to Greenville...Ahti OKSANEN...is back with the Pack...They called him up around the time HRIVIK got promoted...and it doesn't appear as though he'll be leaving any time soon. Six games, four points, two goals. He's playing forward now and he's another one of the older NCAAers to come to professional hockey...but he's a very solid winger who converted from defense while he was still at BU...used to play on EICHEL'S line back in the day...Pleased to see him getting a shot. Hope he can parlay it into an NHL career.

tdchi


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:54 am EST

Ola - I'm a little more optimistic about DAY than you are...not sold on him to the degree mf is, but I think he's going to be a solid add...and when people look back on that draft, they'll cite that pick as being a very savvy one by Gorton. I understand what you're saying about quality CHL defensemen operating at a higher gear and don't disagree...I don't think Day's game is nearly as smooth as it should be at this point in his development...but what I absolutely LOVE about the kid is his booming shot. MAN, he's got a howitzer. Just fast and incredibly accurate. If he can bring that shot to the NHL with some solid, if not unspectacular defensive play, he'll score some goals...I tell you what: I'd love to have a kid like that on point for the PP...and TBH, I'm a little surprised he didn't get more of a look from Team USA...He's going to fall into an interesting category next season, since he'll be eligible to play in the AHL, but could also play in the WJC next year(doesn't turn 20 until January 2018)...Next season could be huge for him...and I tell you what, watching him at TC...from being nondescript to scoring two goals in the final game...and then to see him skating real well in juniors...I think a big concern with the kid from other NHL teams was that he was in some form of arrested development...that if the family issues he was having were enough to derail him from the superstar track to where he was when the Rangers drafted him...that maybe he's too mentally fragile for pro hockey...but man, he keeps getting better. I don't know what his ceiling is, but I do see him as an NHL-level talent.

tdchi


Tue Dec 27 2016 7:32 am EST

First of all, Merry Holidays to all, and especially to whoever plugged the Wall back in. Great to see it back. I'm pretty sure the eye in the sky would never fold this place without allowing someone else to take over duties...Now the Rangers...man, it sucks to lose. And I think a lot of us have forgotten how much that stings...to actually have a LOSING STREAK. We haven't had one this season. We didn't have many last season. Or the season before. So let's be honest with ourselves: Losing sucks. That said, there's absol-positively NO reason to fire the coach at this point and if that's what the Rangers brain trust is considering, then they should be fired too...want to reset this organization? Go ahead. I wouldn't encourage it...but at least that's a move you could somewhat logic out...if the thought is the Rangers, at their very core, aren't and never will be a team that can compete for the cup, then sure, a reset is warranted...But if you look at the players they have...the youth they are skating...you'd have to be on crack to come to that conclusion....this is one of, if not THE fastest teams in the NHL. They have size and skill. They are strong up the middle and have great goaltending, both in their starter and their backup...NOW...to the broken record part of this post: There isn't an NHL team out there that could lose its top winger, top center, and a forward out of it's top nine and still compete on the same level as it was competing previously. I'd struggle to find an NHL team in modern history that could overcome those injuries without as much as a hiccup...I don't care who you put behind the bench...the best he could hope for without ZIBANAJED, NASH and BUCHNEVICH is to play slightly over .500 hockey....most likely, he'd fare a lot worse...You can criticize the Rangers' depth...or point out that losing a full line up front has exposed some deficiencies among the rearguard....but man...this is what we have to expect when a team that is built to play a specific style of hockey is riddle with injuries and has to adjust on the fly. This is a fast-paced uptempo team that is playing dump-and-chase hockey because they have to. And only a few of their players are geared toward that type of game...so if "fire AV" is the answer, then "AND trade (insert seven or eight names here)" should immediately follow. That, of course, is not going to happen.

tdchi


Tue Dec 27 2016 4:43 am EST

http://www.foxsports.com/nhl/story/new-york-rangers-s-play-is-pushing-them-into-a-slump-122616

stevielegs


Tue Dec 27 2016 1:16 am EST

http://nypost.com/2016/12/26/brady-skjei-deserved-benching-he-also-deserves-a-promotion/

mf


Tue Dec 27 2016 1:12 am EST

http://www.foxsports.com/nhl/story/new-york-rangers-moves-the-blue-line-station-staff-wish-nyr-could-redo-part-1-122616

mf


Mon Dec 26 2016 5:55 pm EST

E..tend to agree with you on AV. I certainly don't think we were SC caliber last season, but getting the incredibly hot Pengins in the first round didn't help. This season's team is more cohesive, and determined. That said, they (AV) still need a plan B for the NZT teams they face..IMHO

WIOSA


Mon Dec 26 2016 5:36 pm EST

ALL: Facebook is not the best place to host a website. That said, it is an easy place to get to and remember (ranger fan central graffiti wall backstop) and is a good temp "home" until this one is restored or a new one can be set up and circulated. When the wall went down twice before, the first place I headed was FB. ,hoping I could find you guys or some news on the site. If, hopefully not, it should go down permanently...I hope the new site will be posted o the FB site so we can all find it.

WIOSA


Mon Dec 26 2016 5:10 pm EST

To state the obvious: 1) The League is in an Aardvark of a season because of the expansion draft. This in and of itself is going to handcuff or at least limit many if not all the teams from making trades. 2) The Rangers overturned a significant part of the offense with only 8 of 12 forwards returning. with Nash out the number is 7. On defense, Skjei has played his way into a full time position, and Holden is the newbie... 3) The Rangers youth movement continues in the trade for Z'bad, acquisition of Vesey, return of Hayes & Skjei, Lindberg..... As far as showing AV the door, unless a marquee name of a coach presented itself I'd vote no because of this season's agenda and I'll yield to "E's" assessment that AV has not lost the team... I think it's safe to add that this "powder puff" style of play is losing many of us who appreciate a hard hitting, tight checking 2-1 contest. .. That being said, some names of mercenary reinforcements for the playoff battle: RW: Jerome Iginla (salary issue to work around) C: Martin Hanzal or Antoinne Vermette (if the Duckies cut bait) D: Roman Polak (RHS) ..... These are 3-4 guys who are battle tested & experienced... Costs? Availability? Will A-V put some sandpaper in his white handkerchief of wussification?

mf


Mon Dec 26 2016 4:40 pm EST

If the wall ever goes away I'll host it at the rfccjc.com site. Hopefully we never have to worry about that.

Vic


Mon Dec 26 2016 4:10 pm EST

AV was not my choice for head coach. I didn't think the New York Rangers reflected the style of play that he advocates (what do I know) but the New York Rangers were built to grind the boards and play defensively stout hockey. That stated though I'm not a fan of cutting a coach mid season unless they've lost the team. In short, I don't think AV has done anything that makes me want to punt him outta here. Now, another season with a quick exit into the summer and lll be on board for a change but that is then... the team plays for him. I e never seen anytime that he lost the teams attention or they've been unable to find their game for any more then a few games. One way or another they've coalsed and found their way. Believe me. There are WAY worse coaches in the NHL than Alain Vigneault. Talk to me when he loses the team or the competitive results don't cut it any longer.

E


Mon Dec 26 2016 3:44 pm EST

So who is a candidate to coach this team . I do not believe there is anyone out there. They will not promote Genander. Lavilolette tuned out be a a good coach it seems has something AV doesnt. A CUP. But then so did Torts. I say stick with AV no one else out. Chicago is keeping there coach. LA is keeping there's.

vcp1994


Mon Dec 26 2016 2:55 pm EST

Kis- If the wall goes down Hopso said that we could have yearly get togethers at his place, he would sponsor Coors Light and Baloney sandwhiches. All we can eat and drink he said.

Ola


Mon Dec 26 2016 2:20 pm EST

Thanks WIOSA

KIS


Mon Dec 26 2016 2:06 pm EST

Glad to see the wall back up. What happened? If this wall should ever be down permanently, where can everybody meet. Any suggestions. Would hate not to hear the thoughts of all of you.

KIS


Mon Dec 26 2016 1:03 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NqZQrDrNNk

mf


Mon Dec 26 2016 12:57 pm EST

Back to back Youtube Clips on Sean Day. The first one is dated 12/2013 which would place him as a 13 or 14 year old. I have no idea how old the kids are that he's playing with or against.. The second youtube clip is when he is older... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISmjANEmPQI

mf


Mon Dec 26 2016 12:50 pm EST

OAN: Ward played on 3 Stanley Cup winning teams..... hmmm

mf


Mon Dec 26 2016 12:48 pm EST

OLA: bite your Swedish meatballs! :->) http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/former-nhler-aaron-ward-arrested-charged-with-assault-against-a-woman

mf


Mon Dec 26 2016 12:25 pm EST

Great to hear that Day is doing well and I really like the approach to let him play another year in the Juniors. But I've seen some of him in both Traverse, Summer camp and the WHL, and while he has a lot of tools I definitely think his upside is a bit limited. For a D, so much is about making somewhat high caliber plays at an extremely high speed under high pressure in the NHL -- consistently. So far for me, Day is shaping that he can make high caliber plays. But I am not at all sold on the consistently part. His coordination is like a bit questionable. He isn't very smooth. I've definitely not seen any 6th sense playmaking wise from him. But I definitely wouldn't rule out that he made it to the NHL. But if so, I do envision him to become like more of a Aaron Ward type, ie sure he can become a serviceable NHL D, but also not a type that you are that excited about...

Ola


Mon Dec 26 2016 11:47 am EST

RF: turn that frown upside down: IMO we've got a homegrown "potential captain" coming up the ranks. His name is SEAN DAY.... Barring an injury or stupid trade, he'll be a Ranger for a looooonnnnggg time..... cheers! :->)

mf


Mon Dec 26 2016 9:29 am EST

mf: Slim pickings for sure....

RF4L


Mon Dec 26 2016 9:22 am EST

I hope everyone had a happy and safe Christmas. I've been traveling and will be traveling again this week. I'll post an update on the Texas Pick'em pool and other stuff when I get back at the end of the week.

Vic


Sun Dec 25 2016 8:11 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2016/12/25/an-inside-look-at-rangers-top-prospects-and-their-due-dates/

mf


Sun Dec 25 2016 5:18 pm EST

Merry Christmas everyone

tlats


Sun Dec 25 2016 3:12 pm EST

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all Wall Bangers!

Hospo


Sun Dec 25 2016 12:54 pm EST

Rudolf the Red Nose Ranger, had a very ......... Merry Christmas! .... Thank G-d ! ;->)

mf


Sun Dec 25 2016 12:51 pm EST

Ola. And if hadn't his contract would be another Sather mess. Probably not as silly as the one Tampa gave him - more along the lines of G and S. Onerous for sure.

RF4L


Sun Dec 25 2016 11:34 am EST

“It stings right now the way that our last two games have gone,” captain Ryan McDonagh said after the game. “Obviously we enjoy family time and whatnot with Christmas, but at the end of the day, we’re professionals here. We want to take pride in our job and focus on what we can do individually to be better coming back here after this break.”............“We have an opportunity,” McDonagh said, “to kind of recover there and re-energize.”......

stevielegs


Sun Dec 25 2016 10:59 am EST

I was young back then, just curious... what was wrong with Dave Maloney as Captain? Met him a few times at Rye and outside the Garden when i was a kid. He was pretty intense back then.

hipcheck


Sun Dec 25 2016 10:35 am EST

The worst Captain we ever had was easily Ryan Callahan no doubt. How the fuck -- pardon the French -- can you as a young captain of an Original 6 team go to a rival for a little cheaper taxes? Talk about not having any heart, very glad he left.

Ola


Sun Dec 25 2016 10:31 am EST

To be honest, I think we are fortunate to have McD as our Captain. 82 games plus 20-30 in the POs to go all the way, you cannot force it all the time. You need to have a team that is a functioning machine or whatever it should be labelled. During a season -- I think it's important that you can take a step back and more really stick your neck out when it's needed. Messier didn't play the same way every game per season. He often played like a finesse floater, while during the first 5 minutes of a PO series he was a maniac. McD doesn't have that side, but who does? And of the ones that do -- many over does it.

Ola


Sun Dec 25 2016 9:15 am EST

Moof happy Chanukah and merry Christmas... you can say that now again....

stevielegs


Sun Dec 25 2016 8:34 am EST

Merry Christmas all!

RF4L


Sun Dec 25 2016 5:43 am EST

WIOSA, -- Great idea on the facebook page, thanks for setting it up!

hipcheck


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