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Tue Mar 3 2015 2:17 am EST

Rangers No. 1 in Division, No. 2 in Conference, No. 5 in the League

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 1:59 am EST

excuse me. Lindberg, not Miller. ////// "Sun Mar 1 2015 6:47 am EST And does John Moore (whos played very well since rumors came out en force) and Oscar Lindberg + 2nd + 5th get you Yandle? Prob gets you close. Then all you have to do is straighren this nmc/pt business & beat of 5-6 teams bidding. If you substitute Duclair for Lindberg you could have Jeith Y andle on the PP Monday night. I dont think Sather will spring for the latter. But yiy're trading for Yandle outright. Itd be tough. Rabid Ranger"

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 1:50 am EST

Did too, BEFORE the fact. The ONLY one. Go post your twisted right wing b.s. on the off wall Stevie, since you got no balls. Thats the answer here. None of you regulars are getting away with hiding anymore. Cause I'M gonna get up in your shit.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Mar 3 2015 1:44 am EST

http://nypost.com/2015/03/02/rangers-roll-over-predators-in-yandles-blueshirts-debut/

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 1:42 am EST

http://nypost.com/2015/03/03/how-mats-zuccarello-embodies-the-rangers-culture-change/

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 1:41 am EST

Did not did too Did not did too Did not did too Did not did too Did not did Did not did too too Did not did too Did not did too Did not did too Did not did too Did not did too

stevielegs


Tue Mar 3 2015 1:40 am EST

http://nypost.com/2015/03/03/why-rangers-gave-in-and-dealt-great-anthony-duclair/

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 1:09 am EST

uh. YOURS was Miller/Moore/2nd/5th. Said Sather would never go for Duke. Scroll back and read your own words.

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 1:05 am EST

Show me where its Yandle for Duke-Moore-Picks? There's only ONE. Sunday morning around 7. Same name as MINE. LOL. THE ONLY ONE.SO SUCK IT HAHAHA.... oh, Hospo, MFie, Kis? Goodnight.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:52 am EST

first was from last week, second was from two months ago, third from two years ago. Just like Sather said, we've been in on Yandle for years. and dozens have written about it. Its as much a secret as Tanner's scoring ability.

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:50 am EST

2013! Just none from last week. ;)

Rabid Ranger


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:36 am EST

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN 3 Apr 2013 #NYR Name like Yandle sure to generate lots of interest. Rangers don't have the maneuverability to do that type of deal right now, though

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:34 am EST

From Dec: Rangers target Yandle- http://t.co/dnQ1hvOfTm

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:23 am EST

Sports World Report ‏@sportswr Feb 27 #Rangers NY Rangers Trade Rumors: Tyler Bozak, Keith Yandle, Antoine Vermette Targets With Blackhawks At Deadline? http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/44942/20150227/ny-rangers-trade-rumors-tyler-bozak-keith-yandle-antoine-vermette-targets-with-chicago-blackhawks-at-nhl-deadline.htm …

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:23 am EST

I read (and Im sure Im not alone) Rangers connected with Yandle dozens of times.

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:22 am EST

MFie, he spends his night critiquing poor Tanner Glass(who assisted on a big goal) , on a great night, even other posters cant believe It. Why do you sit still for it? Im really done spending energy on this person. Id happily say I know nothing if hed stfu lol. But he wouldnt. And I know prwtty much everything. Pick a side you bearded TV LOL!!!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:14 am EST

Was that Yandle on the PP Monday night? Gee, no one published anything like that - OR HAD EVEN MDNTIONED KEITH YANDLE ALL WEEK - not anywhere (let alone , for Duclair, Moore & draft picks)whys it sound so familiar? Haha...if you think somethings wrong MFie, maybe talk to that person, the one who thinks he's my shadow lol. Maybe. That goes for all of yas.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:13 am EST

nah I call out bs when I see it.

Messier11


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:07 am EST

Effin Micheletti made it past the Deadline... I would have traded him for Charlie Chaplin....

mf


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:03 am EST

Yo Placid Ranger, let it go, it's only an internet board.....

mf


Tue Mar 3 2015 12:01 am EST

Just caught up on today's post's, good job boys.. Gonna watch Rangers in 60... Tradestar: best post of the day ;-> ....... Hospo, you married a Norwegian / Italian mix? Does that make you Zucc's father? Congrats on the contract! ;-)

mf


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:59 pm EST

Messier the only think fishy is the bukkake you crawled out of. If you doubt the validity of what I write, easy; dont read it. AUTOSCAN.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:46 pm EST

The one he made a "few days" ago. You've been telling fish tales. So insider, even Sather doesn't know them.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:41 pm EST

Which proposal? Youre mis-reading what Sather said. Purposely or not, dont know, dont care.you probably didnt even watch his PC LOL. You have NO clue. Sather also forgot to mention in front of the lights & cameras the little part where he put the same proposal in front of Dave Nonis for Dion Phaneuf. Nonis balked at picking up salary and Yandle was a Ranger soon there after. But the lame way youre still tryin to play gotcha, Mess, youre not worth talking to. Some of those who tell me these things work in the game longer than Im alive. Write what you want Mess. Csnt help you cant handle I called that deal like many before it.i see your name on a post from now on, I auto scan right by.never told me ANYTHING I didnt know anyhow. Im going to email the more sensitive stuff from now on to normal people here I actually like. No need to forward your address. Hows that Hospo?

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:33 pm EST

Rabid, I sure do feel better. Naash looked like he was getting involved and looked fine. Please ignore that person that annoys the hell out of you. I thought the Rangers looked good today. this team looks like they enjoy playing with and for each other

KIS


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:19 pm EST

Vermette managed 12:55 TOI. Thats two-and-a-half more minutes than Glass played tonight.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:15 pm EST

RABID - WOuldn't it be easier just to ignore the guy and enjoy the rest?

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:14 pm EST

you said Duke was a Sunday add-in to convince Maloney. Sather says today that he called Maloney with Duke as original proposal, Maloney immediately called back. Those statements are not consistent.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:12 pm EST

Vermette pointless, shotless, hitless in Chicago debut. 29% on FOs

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:12 pm EST

So, Mess? What are you trying to start? Nothing inconsistent. In fact, you dont know the half if it. Ive still got info trickling in thats pretty mind-blowing.here I am happy after a big win, nice & relaxed, talking about WT's football helmet from 1975. And what? WHAT?!?!? Tellin ya now, watch it. I will detonate this Wall once & for all.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:06 pm EST

Gazoo. They should dig it out & put it on Nash. Relieved he looked normal, which is to say very quick & good. Feel better KIS? Started to look in spots tonight like Rangers might outclass even top skill teams. Renne made some good saves tonight and makes' em look easy, he's so huge. But these POs are going to be a tough tough grind.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:05 pm EST

STEP - Funny,I had that same damn helmet and the Great GAZOO is exactly what some of my teamates called me...but it was Mr. Great Gazoo

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:05 pm EST

From Sather's mouth: Duclair wasn't last-minute add in for Yandle, but always part of the proposal- "Sather said that after recently speaking several times to Maloney, "When we got down to the last few days, I laid the proposal in front of him. He called me back right away. I knew they liked Duclair because of the World Championships. He and [Coyotes prospect Max] Domi played together.'' http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/new-rangers-keith-yandle-james-sheppard-expected-to-arrive-today-1.9998545

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:53 pm EST

Haha... Yea Rabid. He looked like the great gazoo out there !

stepunmytoe


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:50 pm EST

Remember Tkachuk's football helmet? Man was that thing ugly.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:41 pm EST

STEP/NEWFIE - Fondly remember The Bulldog Line of Fairburn-Tkachuck..and Dave BALON..That line could cycle!!!

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:38 pm EST

JFC - Caught your recollection on Vickers...Spot on about his fighting abiliites...The guy could throw them...Too bad he rarely got mad enough to initiate

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:37 pm EST

Rangers with 36 ROW......Tied for #1 in NHL (TB) but NYR's have 2 games in hand.

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:34 pm EST

Newfie : Bulldog Walt could sure win some draws. Very difficult to knock of his feet also.

stepunmytoe


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:34 pm EST

Good game against a good team..Especially liked the team D for the most part..Rangers made it a skating game with hitting at a minimum..They do that, they usually win..Best game they have played in awhile..Like a few years ago when they got CLOWE and destroyed PItt,,Hope they keep it up over the next 5 games on the road...

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:28 pm EST

JFC31............where would a line of Tkaczuk, Vickers and Fairbairn fit in todays hockey ? Sounds like a line for the Bruins ?

Newfie_Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:19 pm EST

Sean Avery ‏@imseanavery 4m4 minutes ago If I didn't dislike #Toronto so much I would actually become the next #DonCherry...do u really think people would change the channel

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:18 pm EST

Not sure if anyone posted this.... "I'm really happy to stay here with my friends. It feels like we are a family here. This is where I want to be"-#NYR @zuccarello36

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:14 pm EST

Yandle sounds like he won the Lottery :)

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:13 pm EST

Sean Avery ‏@imseanavery 1m1 minute ago I can't believe #TSN was actually going to put Dustin Penner on air

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:13 pm EST

Keith Yandle spoke with John Giannone after the game on MSG: Giannone says that Yandle took off around 7AM Arizona time and landed a little after 1PM in New York. On today, “mentally it was exciting, the whole day was kind of wanting to get here and play. The Rangers made it so easy for me, just to get here and taking care of me, it was a great day.” Did you feel the nerves, “I did, to come out here and play the first game at MSG in front of these tremendous fans, it brought back the buterflies for me and it was a lot of fun.” What were your emotions, “I was glad we had warmups, get the nerves out a little bit and get the feel of being down on the other end. It was awesome by the fans to give me a warm welcome and it meant a lot.” Was it strange playing for a new team, “it was a little different but the guys made it so comfortable for me, everyone went out of their way to talk to me and get me ready for the game and get my mind off being too nervous. All the credit to those guys, they did a great job.” What stood out, “just looking up and seeing an awesome guy to pass to at any time, great D pairings, it was just a lot of fun to be out there.”

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:12 pm EST

I still have one of Vickers old Sherwoods someplace. The guy had fists the size of cathers mitts. No wonder he knocked people silly. Remember him going with Schultz once and doin pretty good

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:00 pm EST

Newf -- yep, Vickers came on the scene like a veteran....like,he'd always been there.mman, he was a scary good,fighter....after a season of challenges where he destroyed people, they simply stopped challenging.mhe was a beast putting pick in from in close.mwhat a terrific player!

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:58 pm EST

Mask = Nash

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:58 pm EST

I wanna talk about two Rangers .............There is no doubt that Carey Price is the best goalie in the league this year, an MVP candidate for sure..........Mr.Talbot is the BEST backup in the league by a country mile ! Which brings me to Hayes......as short awhile ago as December, I wanted him gone. Now , and I trust that everyone has noticed, the kid has turned into a solid play maker and performer for this team. For all the old fogies on here, the last Rookie that I remember looking this good was Steve Vickers. Different type of player but I'm talking poise and confidence and playmaking ability.

Newfie_Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:58 pm EST

Dominant, playoff-type performance by the boys tonight. It's time to get serious and they know it. Zucc was back to,his old self....what a beauty pass to Kreider. Mask looks like he's over whatever was ailing him. Talbot had his best game in this stretch....controlled, square,,aggressive. We just dominated the "best" team in the NHL

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:48 pm EST

Hags busted his ass tonight. Great penalty killing. Valuable player on this club. Prince was a vacuum tonight. No rebounds. Curious to see how the defense shakes out. Don't know why they broke up the original pairings.

stepunmytoe


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:48 pm EST

McD still gets just over 22:00. Yandle plays 19:41 in debut.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:48 pm EST

Just having fun guys

NYStranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:46 pm EST

Higgy21 ...my thoughts exactly.

WIOSA


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:45 pm EST

Impressive start to stretch of 5 tough games. Det-CHI on road, @ Isles, then Wash. I love how they sense a measuring stick game and rise to meet challenge. That back-to-back pts for Glass btw lol

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:45 pm EST

dominant game

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:41 pm EST

Of Gabby return, Brass 2nd/1st line center, Dorsett becomes Keegan Iverson, Moore a throw-in for Yandle. Plus, Chase Lang, P/GP in the WHL.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:40 pm EST

Big win. A bit of slop as usual but better overall. Now practice that Power Play.

NYStranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:37 pm EST

Nash does it the hard way

NYStranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:37 pm EST

is that longest distance score for Nash?

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:37 pm EST

If they can get Sheppard under contract. Id prefer Miller for that slot next season.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:35 pm EST

Can not believe hoe fuggin passive the Rangers are playing the last 3 minutes with a Preds open net!

NYStranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:34 pm EST

Of Hackett, Johnson, Lindback, only Johnson under contract next season. Hackett an RFA, Lindback a UFA. Buffalo is just a 2 hour drive from Talbot's Caledonia, ONT hometown….

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:34 pm EST

Glass was always a place-holder once we lost Boyle, to get us back at least some size, hitting, blocks. Now they get the guy thry like in Sheppard. Glass was a good soldier, and he got a very nice soldier's contract for his troubles.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:29 pm EST

Imagine Glass on a line with Pysie! Wholy Molely ! Whachout NHL

NYStranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:28 pm EST

more, for that cap hit

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:28 pm EST

The fact that we are winning and up 3-1 against the best team in the league, and still complaining about Glass is unbelievable.

Higgy21


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:26 pm EST

Weber gets Chara treatment from refs. He can do no wrong

stepunmytoe


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:23 pm EST

That was a seriously lazy shift by Brassard and takes a lazy penalty

NYStranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:22 pm EST

Webber has had a number of plays that could have been power plays and now we go short

jim9k26


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:20 pm EST

Glass on the roll feeling it owning thar 3_2 rush. StaAl teabags guastad..

jim9k26


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:19 pm EST

Once Sheppard gets (next game) in good chance Glass never plays for us again. But IDK what anyone expected from a run of the mill 4th line mucker.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:12 pm EST

another multiple-point season for Glass

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:08 pm EST

Glass racking up the pts.

stepunmytoe


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:08 pm EST

nice one Moore

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:56 pm EST

Seriously, Glass is like a Rupp that costs twice as much, is a lot smaller, only a little younger, and only a very little bit faster.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:51 pm EST

Person probably most relieved with Sheppard trade is Dom Moore.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:50 pm EST

Glass has tremendous effect when in press box. His worth to team increases exponentially with every foot of distance between him and the ice.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:49 pm EST

So... youre blaming it all on him haha...

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:48 pm EST

Just saw clips of Ruff throwing Lehtonen under bus. Glad we passed on him for AV.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:46 pm EST

That stat is of course when he is on the ice. When he's off the ice, his team is much better.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:45 pm EST

If you look at Tanner Glass's analytics, his team is scored against far more often than they score. Worst in the League. Not blaming it all on him, just saying.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:36 pm EST

Still bad in their own end

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:34 pm EST

I had posted a couple of,games ago that the Rangers might have trade deadline jitters and I was MOCKED!! LOL! J/k...but I defintely thought the Rangers were playing distracted. Who knows?

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:34 pm EST

When was the last time Stepan has hit the net?

RDW


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:33 pm EST

Thanks goodness we kept GLASS. He's a difference-maker.

THE Kreider


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:31 pm EST

Matt Cullen one of those I wish we had held on to longer.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:28 pm EST

True Rhet/Wild. Very relaxed.rested. even MSL looks ok. Nashville also plays a good style for us.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:24 pm EST

Any one else get the feeling the Rangers players were overly concerned with the trade deadline. This is the best they have played in a month.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:14 pm EST

It's soooo weird hearing Yandle's name being called as a Ranger.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:13 pm EST

Laviolette looks groggy and uninvested

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:12 pm EST

This team looks happy to have the trade deadline be over.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:12 pm EST

THE. That is all.

THE Kreider


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:11 pm EST

As they go, so go the Rangers...

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:11 pm EST

They are in the zone, great chemistry out there right now. Killer defense.

nyfans


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:10 pm EST

RELEASE THE KREIDER

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:09 pm EST

UNLEASH THE HOBBIT

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:07 pm EST

Nashville one of absolute best teams in the league, dangerous offense, Rinne is one of best net minders. This is a real test, have to take chances where we can. 1-0 probably will not do it.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:07 pm EST

Trivia answer should be Weber and Yandle.

DOUBLEN


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:59 pm EST

Ha,ha Trade. Having lived near both, yeah!

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:58 pm EST

Wanna see how the PP looks. And Ulfie talk in about using McD on Rt side changes everything. more versatility, Lotta good stuff. Zuc almost beheaded Webber. Jesus! Lol. NN, YOU RULE!

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:57 pm EST

I know it's only one period. But we look more confident. We are playing like a team on the same page.

rangerlou


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:48 pm EST

Yandle moving from the shitty Coyotes to the high flying Rangers is like moving from Hempstead to Kings Point.

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:36 pm EST

The Rangers look fuggin' gooooooooood. (knocks on wood)

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:32 pm EST

and so it begins

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:31 pm EST

See a different look from Yandle right there. Nice work.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:17 pm EST

Nash looks better....

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:05 pm EST

I find it so annoying that Al Trautwig has to talk about Madison Square Gardens iconic ceiling every time there's a Rangers broadcast.It's a beautiful ceiling I know but every damn time.

tlats


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:55 pm EST

Sabres to finish the season with a goalie tandem of Chad Johnson, Anders Lindback, Matt Hackett. They should be fined for tanking.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:51 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 7m7 minutes ago in #NYR warmups, Yandle paired with Klein, Fast returns with Moore and Glass. Other lines same. Sheppard on ice but AV said he won't play. ////// Mistake, IMO even jet-lagged Sheppard > Glass

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:50 pm EST

My own list of most improved teams 1) Coyotes 2) Rangers 3) Jets 4) Ducks 5) Flyers 6) Sabres

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:35 pm EST

RF4L - I agree that one of those 2 forwards will be gone next season (unless Step also goes for a hometown discount). I've felt this season has been Hayes' one long audition for one of their spots. Has anyone held out on 'Esther' and remained with the team long-term?

LeoS


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:31 pm EST

al trout-fish says shepherd is in warm-ups....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:28 pm EST

Dont understand Pittsburgh reacquiring Lovejoy, whom they traded 2 seasons ago for a 5th. Despres is a better, younger defender.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:28 pm EST

Geez, Stewart found out he was dealt while on-air with TSN LOL. Im sure theres video of it out there somewhere.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:26 pm EST

nice to see Wild humbled into taking a 2nd to move Stewart. Thankfully for us they overpriced him so drastically last season

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:23 pm EST

Rather can trade our AHL pending RFAs for picks on draft day. Those guys wouldn't contribute to receiving teams for playoffs, so virtually no market for them at the moment. Allen, Bodie, maybe Kristo should all fetch something. maybe 4ths or 5ths

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:20 pm EST

Columbus barely got anything for Wisniewski. They had to take on Bourque (who can still contribute, but was a salary dump) and send a 2015 3rd along with Wiz to get 2011 2nd Bill Kassian and a 2015 2nd back.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:15 pm EST

wtf Sather no 3pm deals? no more picks to trade? trade a prospect for picks, then trade the picks? then sign other teams 1st rounders', or trade for them......

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:12 pm EST

Letunov 19, already 6' 3", heading to Boston University next season

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:10 pm EST

final on Letunov/Michalek- 3rd is conditional. If Michalek doesn't return from injury, Blues get the pick. Otherwise, nothing. So basically this is pending UFA for 2014 2nd round pick, big-bodied, USHL leader Letunov. Michalek a placeholder for the injured Shattenkirk. I say 50/50 they re-sign. Next season's third pair probably Lindbohm/Bortuzzo. Steep price, IMO

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:05 pm EST

I understand why, but Toronto acquires Eric Brewer. Oh, lordy!

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:03 pm EST

That being said, Halak signed long term and Neuvirth pending UFA so any tension probably fleeting

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:02 pm EST

Neuvirth was probably not only one of the best available pending UFA Gs, but also probably one of the only very good ones. Move probably more about lack of confidence in Johnson, who couldnt repeat for NYI his performance as Rask's backup in Boston

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:01 pm EST

Not sure if this was mentioned: Sheppard was a 1st round (9th) pick in 2006, Brassard was the #6 pick that year... These boys probably have faced each other in juniors... Here's hoping that a fresh slate and solid surrounding are just what Sheppard & Yankle (of course) needed to go the next level.... Does Yankle light shabbos candles? ;->

mf


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:52 pm EST

Hopefully that adds controversy and instability. Did not work so well here with Beezer AND Richter as A1 and A2 starters.

NYStranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:45 pm EST

Islanders are in a three-way tie for most regulation wins, have the second most potent offense in the league. Added a 2nd starting goaltender at deadline. Snow probably felt like he didn't have much to do.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:44 pm EST

Gotta see the new look of the ...... new look Hospo. Yandle isnt befuddled by a puck. 17-18 minutes a night hes a threat out there now where we had none. He should find the streaking Jreiders, Nash', Hagelins more. Im anxious to see myself. Want to see Sheppard too. We can keep that 3rd line which has been good, or change it up. Lot of options we didnt have. Heres one: maybe 5-on-3 Yandle wont screw around!

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:36 pm EST

RABID - Not sold on the defesnive coaching and ideas of Samulleson..ONly Kein has played as well as he did late last year...But, they have some games to work it out...

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:34 pm EST

Ill tell ya a GM who didnt do his job. Snow. Good. But he missed a big chance to catch lightning. Theyre not good enough.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:31 pm EST

Moore out. Yandle in. Sather Sucks!

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:31 pm EST

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie .... Vigneault: McDonagh, Girardi pair to remain intact. "Other four [D] will move in and out depending on where faceoff is." Uhhhh...

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:29 pm EST

JFC: Let's hope at least one of Buch/Tambellini/Haggerty are the real deal. Let's hope at least one of McI/Skeji/Graves are the real deal. Let's hope at least one of Skapski/Halverson/Russian kid are the real deal. Out of those nine if 3 make it, that'll help a lot when you factor in the young players you mentioned already on the Rangers. And Sather will likely add one or two more draft picks this June, as he usually does during the draft. I still say one of Stepan/Brassard or Staal/Girardi will be dealt at the draft for picks/prospects due to cap constraints. If that's true, that, too, will help.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:24 pm EST

JFC: Re Sather - agreed although as I posted yesterday he probably cares not because 1) he's soon to retire so the inevitable mess that will result from a lack of young skill entering the organization won't be his to worry about 2) his legacy in NY if no cup is captured will be one of mediocrity - yes winning a bunch of PO rounds is better than constant failure but if the end result is no cup and a threadbare feeder system it's like coming in 2nd in a chess match 3) Sather IMO is desperate for a cup win so he can retire pointing at that - otherwise he retires with one of longest dry stretches any GM in history (and probably in any sport) - 25+ years despite for several of them having the largest bank in the NHL from which to draw on. Since coming to NY he's been, save for the 03/04 when he did the right thing and sold off assets, a high risk/high reward operator. So far he's batting zero with that philosophy. Maybe this year it will finally work.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:22 pm EST

It will be really great to see how Yandle and Shepard perform when they are surrounded by better talent. Who knows, maybe we hit a huge jackpot with both as they rise to,the occasion and shine without having to perform under adverse conditions. On another note, the Rangers immediate future (2-4 years) will also get natural,boosts from WITHIN when you think about the fact that Kreider has not reached his peak yet, Hayes is just starting out well, JT is finally getting his feet under him, etc. The PO experience these guys will get will be a huge factor in their development too. Looking forward to seeing The Hobbit feeling free and clear from here on out. Hoping Nash gets back on track too.

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:20 pm EST

Larry BrooKS..... Rangers have placed Lundqvist on LTI...Has no bearing on projected return but created maneuverability at deadline.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:16 pm EST

Ummm...PunchRolfe...? Youre an advocate?

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:16 pm EST

Lot's of people saying we are going to love Sheppard.... Brian Boyle Lite. Someone mentioned FACEOFFS earlier.... Sheppard,is 50% this season and we still have Lindberg. He was tops in the Swedish Jr. Elite League for 2 seasons. We have options,

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:13 pm EST

punchrolfe -- that's obvious to everyone here who has seen all of Sathers disasterous moves over his years here that went virtually unpunished by Baby Dolan.....only in the past 5 has Sather shown any consistent on-ice success. When I said it was his ass on the line, I meant that the failures would all point directly to him. If the cupboard becomes bare from all the pick trading, if Duclair becomes a force in the NHL and son and so on, it's all,on Slats and his legacy and reputation....his virtual ass.

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:11 pm EST

Leonard said there was nothing in the final 3 years.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:11 pm EST

Who Hospo, Oscar? Hope so. Most important thing Sather said in there is they feel they have kids that can impact next year like Hayes has. If hes talki g McIlrath taking over Boyles spot, Lindberg for Moore, Buch fir MSL, thdn you see next wave for this team. Pretty phenomenal actually. A feeder system feeding, before signing any baby ufas, etc. Im really happy we got past 3pm with JT, Lindberg, McI still here. Kassian woulda been nice though. Lets see what Sheppard brings. Sather was pumped about it.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:10 pm EST

Seth Rothman‏@RothmanHockey.... AV said Sheppard gives added depth in the center position, but wouldn't commit to using him there. Calls him versatile, can play all 3 spots

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:09 pm EST

Maybe its an NTC that is full only first season, partial last three

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:08 pm EST

Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord....... AV, on Anthony Duclair going to Coyotes, "I love the Duke." Says, though, have to give up something to get something.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:07 pm EST

Seth Rothman ‏@RothmanHockey...... #Rangers Sather on Sheppard: "I watched him last year in the playoffs against LA, I thought he was one of their best players." .....Also, Per Kevin DeLury ‏@kevindelury....... According to Sather, it's Hayes' fault that Duclair was traded. Nice going Kev. Way to be good at hockey. Jerk.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:07 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 4m4 minutes ago AV: Will start with mix of Yandle with Klein and Boyle

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:06 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 4m4 minutes ago AV: Sheppard not here. Long travel. Fast in

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:06 pm EST

Zuc took a haircut to have a shot at the cup in NY, and wasn't about to let Slats trade him as a bargain after that. Don't know why he didn't go all the way on the NTC, but I guess he figures if they don't win it this year or next, it ain't happening anyway..

Punchrolfe


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:04 pm EST

Anyone know where to see/hear AVs press conference?

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:02 pm EST

RABID - He is going to get the chance...1 injury, all it takes

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:01 pm EST

That's a new one on me. I can't remember the last contract that had a full NTC in just the first year and then nothing else at all. I guess he was worried about being traded for cap reasons after this season. Smart in that way.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:01 pm EST

JFC - I was one of those and why I didn't have that much of a problem with the MSL deal (I'm a little owrried now though1)..As for THIS YEAR, I have to applaud SATHER for, like I wanted, going for it with the moves he made yesterday..I dig the strategery and philosophy... Not the moves I would have made but, like every other bozo here, I'm not in Professional hockey and just a fan, and gotta hope Slats knows best....We are definitely a better team than we were on Saturday, with YANDLE providing out of this world offense over what we would get from MOORE...AND SHEPPHERD (though I wanted better) adds a little bit more versatility/flexibility, size and a half decent FO option compared to STEMP......I Still have my worries about Boyle and the young 3rd line come the POs against certain teams but, you look around the East, and there is no team anywhere near perfect or has optimum 3rd and 4th lines...The Rangers are as good as any..Well see what the matchups are and how injuries shake out over the next month..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:57 pm EST

The notion that Slats' butt is on the line remains a laughable pipe dream for as long as the Dolans remain in charge. In fact, in the year 2064, I would not be surprised if they are still wheeling 'Ol No. 6 out in a glass case to preside over scouting meetings. MSL or no MSL, cup or no cup, the guy is GM for life. "Ass on the line?" Puleez. The only ass on the line is Junior D.

Punchrolfe


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:57 pm EST

So Zucc has a no trade for the first year only. I think that speaks to his poor start this season. If he does it again or has long poor stretches next year Sather wants to be able to move him. Of course if he doesn't do that and contributes big he will not need a NTC because the Rangers will not move "that guy" unless they have to.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:57 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay ..... Slats on Lundqvist: "We continue to evaluate, we'll keep you posted in a little while."

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:56 pm EST

Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN ....... The full, done Zuccarello deal: 4 years, $18 million, full no-trade in 1st season, nothing in final 3yrs. Salary $4.5 per yr, as is cap hit

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:56 pm EST

Well the stage is now perfectly set for Glass' huge PO goal no one expects lol.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:55 pm EST

HockeyRumors&Trades ‏@HockeyRand....... Calgary #Flames D Mark Giordano will need surgery on his torn bicep and is expected to miss the next 5-6 months.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:54 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay...... Sather on run to Cup Final: "It was nice to get there. I hope we can do that again. But a lot of teams are going to think the same thing."

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:53 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay...... Sather on Zuke: "I put it on the market that we were going to trade him. Whether or not that would have ever happened is another story."

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:53 pm EST

the scary part -- Were you expecting more from Boyle, “he has been fine, he started off with some problems with his health and injury and it’s taken him some time but I think these two together will be good.”

jim9k26


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:53 pm EST

Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN...... Zuccarello gets a 4-year, $18 million deal, with a full-no trade clause in his first season only.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:53 pm EST

A great outcome for us would be Boston and LA not making the POs....which is very possible

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:52 pm EST

Rangers Report ‏@rangersreport ...... Buchnevich will play for Russia in World Championships, unless something drastic changes. He won't be a Ranger this season.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:51 pm EST

Steve ZipAY....... Slats: "Talked to Donnie last couple years, he wasn't anxious to do anything. I laid the proposal in front of him, called me right away."

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:51 pm EST

As soon as Sather acquired 38 year old MSL it became "Cup or bust" for the foreseeable future for this team, and many of us said so. Sather is not surprising anyone with his proclamations but it's his ass and his reputation on the line because he has in fact traded ALOT of down the road prospects and picks,to get to,where we are today. Now it's "just win baby!" I'm sure they're acquisition of Yandle is yet another attempt at making the PP a serious weapon, as well as raising the overall goal output of,this team. By doing so, a big part of the formula is that Hank does not have to be lights out every night during the POs and if he is, then he'll just get that much more of a cushion. Greater goal output also means less rubber overall and better chance to keep,hi rested and extend his prime career years

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:49 pm EST

FINALLY..... Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN....... I can report Zuccarello's contract with Rangers is officially complete #NYR

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:46 pm EST

DOCJAY - Actually, the one opponent this year that I think will provide the most physical test (not saying we will pass or fail) is WASHINGTON..CHARA has lost a giant step and LUCIC will always be LUCIC but the rest of the Bruins aren't physically what they used to be..All you have to do is match their intensity....On the other end of the spectrum, hopefully YANDLE helps us to fianlly find a way to win agasinstTB and beat the other more sakting teams.

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:39 pm EST

Im glad we had no new moves today. Too much risk of spoiling the stew. Glass can hold down the press box. Boyle can be moved after training camp next season.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:39 pm EST

kassian got too hot; 6 goals 8pts in 9 games playing with Sedins.mustve been toi pricey. Sather just said we're goin for it, have been since last year. Good.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:38 pm EST

Peluso and Glass only capable of around 7:00 of semi-effective ice time. They are very unlikely to be on the ice with Lucic, and their line mates suffer.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:35 pm EST

docjay - that is what Tanner Glass is for.

DREW


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:30 pm EST

imo the rangers will still struggle with a team like boston, if they meet , because they have no answer for lucic and chara. so despite having perhaps the best roster on paper in the east , their success in the playoffs may depend on avoiding certain opponent matchups . sather should have acquired someone like peluso or kassian

docjay


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:15 pm EST

Blues included Lindstrom for Jokinen. Ugh

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:13 pm EST

Detroit, St. Louis, Anaheim all picked up big contract RHS D.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:12 pm EST

pretty quiet deadline day compared to the bombast leading up to it

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:11 pm EST

More on Letunov/Michaelek: 3rd rounder is conditional, not sure of condition. Letunov is USHL leading scorer. ARI picked up 50% of Michalek's remaining salary. Personally I don't think they retain him after the POs so he is a rather expensive rental, depending on the condition of the third rounder. Blues moved Cole for Bortuzzo as both were RFAs and Bortuzzo is a year younger, RHS, making 300k less, easier to QO. Blues feel really good about Petteri Lindbohm, ready to move on from Cole next season.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:07 pm EST

Islanders getting Neuvirth- they obviously believe its their year.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:06 pm EST

Hospo, I'm a crank, what can I say. If the stat was like lose 30 of 50, then yes. But you could be correct. The line between winning and losing is pretty damn narrow. Hell, you can lose a series on a post hit or deflection.

Nick


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:06 pm EST

Hospo: The report was that Wisniewski was having a scan on the foot he hurt blocking a shot the other night and they were awaiting the results. Must have come back ok!!! LOL

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:59 pm EST

Rhet- those are my pairings also. Pretty balanced, imo

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:59 pm EST

lot of d-men changing hands today - would have liked one more for Rangers but it is what it is, can't believe Slats didn't have at least a minor league type deal to keep his streak alive- game should be interesting tonight.

jim9k26


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:57 pm EST

We could also see things like McD and GIradi together in the final 5 min of a game with a lead. Or even Yandle with Boyle if they need a goal. Steal with Klein at the end of a game with a lead as well, and rotate 4 McD-Giradi than Staal-Klien....lots of options for AV depending on the situation.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:55 pm EST

Rhet: With that I like you D-pairs. And Staal would be fresher for PK duty if he gets less 5 on 5 time and he is a big part of the PK, and that may be vital down the stretch and in the post season.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:53 pm EST

RHET - You may have to at ES...Something I hate doing this late but..may have to in ordert o ensure YANDLE's offense gets the time it deserves...AT PK , still go with the main 4....a l0ot of moving parts..alot depends on Boyle..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:53 pm EST

Rhet: I think the 3 D pairs will get much closer to even time. McD-Giradi will probably stick at least for now, but the 2nd and 3rd pair will probably get even time, or the pair playing better will get more, and depending on PP and PK duty and the like. But I bet AV starts to really roll 3 D pairs much more evenly now....or as soon as things settle in with a few practices and the like

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:52 pm EST

Report: Leafs Tried Dealing Kessel and Phaneuf Mon.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:49 pm EST

Hospo.... Maybe not today, but I'd blow up the Defense pairings. Maybe.... Yandle-Girardi,,,,,, McDonagh-Klein..... Staal-Boyle. Staal will also get extra shifts with the other top 4. I don't want Boyle playing more.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:44 pm EST

TDCHI - how the hell did that monster of a post get past the length filter?

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:42 pm EST

Thanks again,,,,Well hope Boiyle cansummon up his veteran pride, wiles and exepereince for the next three months...All we need is reliable..nothing more..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:41 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun.... No salary retained in Wiz trade to Anaheim from Columbus

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:40 pm EST

Didn't WISNIEWSKI get hurt the other night?..If not, for that team, good deal..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:38 pm EST

PATRICK - One thing, the Rangers can still pick up an NHL goalie (sign, waivers, trade) but they just won't be able to play him in the POs....I think

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:37 pm EST

CBJ James Wisniewski and a third-round pick to Anaheim for a second-round pick, William Karlsson and Rene Bourque

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:37 pm EST

Hospo- Kostka. It drops off pretty severely on the RHS

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:37 pm EST

Thanks for the kind words guys, glad to be back. Wouldn't miss deadline day for the world –it's like Christmas, my birthday, finals week and my yearly employee review wrapped into one giant clusterf@ck...Some reflections on what I'd call a pretty successful Ranger deadline...First on the YANDLE trade...I liked DUCLAIR a lot and I think he'll be one heck of an NHLer. But when I think about the kid, I see a kid who will probably top out at the 25-goal, 50-point range. He was another lefty on a team that's replete with 'em...and he didn't have size going for him either. NTM, with the Rangers' top six well-established –I personally think ST. LOUIS will be back next season –and HAYES banging on the door...MILLER not far behind him...Where does Duke go? HAGLIN has third-line wing pinned down...and there's a very good chance we'll see BUCHNEVICH come over before spring. Not sure how much has been said here about Buch, but believe you this: He's the real deal. A dangler who can thread passes...just a magician with the puck. He was easily one of the most talented guy on the Russian team...maybe in the WJCS tourney...Even Buch doesn't show up, you have HAGGERTY who might even get a peek before the season is out...Pan to next season and there's a good chance TAMBELLINI could also end up in the mix. So that's three very respectable wing prospects. What made Duke expendable, IMO, was his size and his recent history off concussions. At 5'11 and 185, there wasn't much room to back more muscle onto that kid without changing his game...Sorry to see him go, but in the short run, the deal makes the Rangers so much more dangerous...Yandle wasn't my first choice for PPQB, but this is a guy who bled points from a stone. I know some are pointing to his massive deficit in +/- this/last year, but that's not the stat to watch. Look at his helpers. They're off the chart. And that's because he was a major part of Arizona's offense, what little of it there was. Teams are not going to want to rough up the Rangers with him manning the point on the PP...Not sure where I read it, but there was a respected coach/commentator who said Yandle to the Rangers gives them the best defense in the NHL...and to be honest, I mostly agree. The only team who might be better is Nashville...John MOORE...Meh...the writing was on the wall. He had every chance to live up to his draft place and just couldn't pull it together. The only part I'll miss is his toughness. That's a loss, but one easily forgotten with Yandle's helpers...the draft picks...last year, I would have freaked about it...another season...no first rounder? But in truth, this means the Rangers have the rest of this season and all of next with the best D in the league, bar-none. If Hank stays healthy, that means that first rounder(and the one from the MSL trade) will both be 25th overall or worse...looking now at the kid the Isles got for last year's 28th overall...Ho-Sang...and...well...Let's just say my trepidation over losing those picks has greatly diminished...Onto SHEPPARD: Great deal. Just a risk-free acquisition that improves the size, skill and toughness of the fourth line. Was never a fan of STEMPNIAK and saw him getting the boot once FAST returns...Sheppard means AV can now pull GLASS out of the lineup...he's got a big body in the PF mold who can hit, fight and most of all, score. He's a guy who doesn't mind driving hard to the net. Remember, this is a former top-10 draft pick. Tightens up the bottom line. Brings in a big body to take faceoffs if Dom Moore gets thrown out of the circle...Then there's Carl KLINGBERG: I know most if not all are saying this was a straight-out salary dump...but I've always like this kid..If memory serves correct, this kid played one hell of a WJCS in 2011..remember him being a very good player. Not sure why he's struggled at the pro level, but he's played well in the A. He's a good depth player to have in the organization. I think what makes him an outside shot to join the Rangers in a pinch is that he's a very fast skater and seems to thrive on driving to the net...and we've seen those players really excel in AV's system....Lastly, to draw this very long post out a bit more, the ZUCCARELLO signing. Just awesome. I can't say enough about it. This is a kid who could end up with 60-plus points during any one of those contract years...The Rangers landed Zucc at a bargain because he loves NYC. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of his teammates also take discounts to keep the core together.

tdchi


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:36 pm EST

I don't like Armstrong as a GM.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:36 pm EST

Bortuzzo for Cole is pretty dumb too, but maybe they feel that at 26 Cole has turned the corner. He certainly should get opportunity to dispute or confirm that in Arizona. Letunov is 2014 2nd rounder for Blues. Big Russian playing in the USHL, so has already crossed the pond. How does that get Michalek and a 3rd? I don't know.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:35 pm EST

PATRICKDIV - Yeah, was gonna be awful hard to deal the salaries of Phaneuf, Kessel ande maybe BOzak at the deadline..Agree that they will try their damndest to deal all three by the DRAFT ..Lot or rebuilding to do..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:34 pm EST

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger ...... Bostons Caron to the Avs for Max Talbot as main elements.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:34 pm EST

If that's true about lundqvist I would have picked up Rob Zepp off waivers from Philly. Damn cheap and looked ok when I watched him play last week. Supposedly good on shootouts too

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:33 pm EST

Hard to believe no Leafs news. Perhaps the type of deals they need to swing are best at the draft? Going to be rough up there for Shanny!!! The fans wanted a house clearing and basically got a new door mat

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:31 pm EST

BTW, Reportedly, Lundqvist is out at least another 2 weeks.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:28 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun...... Buffalo retains 50 percent of Chris Stewart salary in Wild trade

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:23 pm EST

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod...... Habs may still have deal in works... But Parenteau not traded.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:21 pm EST

IXNAY on ARENTEAUPAY

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:21 pm EST

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod ,,,,, Sorry, jumped the gun... Parenteau NOT traded

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:20 pm EST

NHLSourcesSay ‏@NHLSourcesSay ....... Montreal has traded Parenteau...

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:19 pm EST

Montreal has traded PARENTEAU...to???

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:19 pm EST

Jokinen for Blues….theres this years dumb deal for them

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:17 pm EST

we've all seen Moore play 3C. That is not a serious option

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:16 pm EST

Thanks...then Mcilrath and ??

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:15 pm EST

Damn, I gotta watch more games....I don't even know what a Baertschi is!!

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:15 pm EST

Summers is a LHS

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:14 pm EST

#Flames trade Sven Baertschi to the #Canucks for a 2nd round pick. #TradeCentre

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:13 pm EST

Official: #Sabres trade Chris Stewart to #MnWild in exchange for a 2017 2nd round pic

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:13 pm EST

Hey, keep the faith, Boyle can still pull a hammy or something!..Who's the next RHS D-man? SUmmers and McIlrath?....I've seen SUmmers play, No Thanks...McIlrath, hey, give him a shot..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:13 pm EST

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 42s43 seconds ago Hearing Baertschi to Canucks.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:12 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 2m2 minutes ago CAL appears to have traded Baertschi. No league trade call yet.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:11 pm EST

There still may be 1-2 trades. There was too much going on there at the end. Too much to post. A lot of take about Iginla late.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:11 pm EST

Patrick: I agree I'd rather have kept Moore than Boyle, but after the Yandle trade which included Moore there's not much more we could do to cover up the apparently bad Boyle signing....

Ranger47


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:10 pm EST

Shawn Hutcheon ‏@ShawnHutcheon .... #NHLBruins have traded Jordan Caron. Details coming soon.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:09 pm EST

Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib.... Being told #sabres taking on part of Stewart's salary for the rest of the season

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:09 pm EST

NICK - totally disagree on FOs, especially in tight PO games...ALmost every game you see a goal for or against directly because of the FO result..In my min, huge in the PO's..Winning 50 vs 43% or even 38% (HAYES), to me, can win/losr a game and thus a series..JMWO

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:07 pm EST

So Boyle is still a Ranger?

Shaggy


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:07 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC ..... Despres for Lovejoy

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:06 pm EST

EKLUND'S dart for MIN and big name comes through! :)

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:06 pm EST

NYR_SourceCentral™ ‏@NYRSourceCentrl ..... Chris Stewart to Wild for 2nd Rd pick

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:06 pm EST

Maybe I'm not down with the stats and all, but this faceoff thing doesn't register that much. So for every 50 draws, if you win 23 instead of 27, this is gonna cost you the Cup? It's up there with "Dan Boyle has good possession numbers." He's a danger to himself and others in our own zone, Forsi or Kenwick or Fuckall numbers be damned.

Nick


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:05 pm EST

Chris Stewart dealt from #Sabres to the #Wild pending trade call for a second round pick in 2016

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:05 pm EST

Stewart to the Wild for a 2nd

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:05 pm EST

just saw Pens got Lovejoy- guy i would have wanted with Yandle -little over 1M yearly -underrated

jim9k26


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:05 pm EST

WILD ACQUIRE STEWART..... per JB ‏@JB_HockeyTalk ...... The Penguins have traded for Ben Lovejoy.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:04 pm EST

PIT acquires Ben Lovejoy from ANA. #TradeCentre Pending trade call of course.

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:03 pm EST

Penguins deal may have been for Stewart.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:02 pm EST

Fivehole: I didn't expect it to be official until tomorrow. Too much going on within the teams and the NHL offices to process that paperwork.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:02 pm EST

PAGNOTTA: "SABRES finalizing STEWART deal"

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:02 pm EST

Hospo -- could be....need to do something. Not sure why, but I'm intrigued by this kid Shepard.....like his size/skating profile and the fact that he can grind. Wouldn't be surprised to see AV give him a spin on the 3rd line....he still has a little time to tinker and get his bottom 6 set....lots of versatility, lots of options available for him

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:01 pm EST

Sounds like the Sabers amy have some trades all waiting trade calls. Will take some time since they can only do one at a time. Same for the Habs apparently.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:01 pm EST

Can we get the countdown back for next year's deadline?

ges999


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:01 pm EST

Is the MZA extension official. Lots of "reports" yesterday, but I didn't see an annoucement.

Fivehole


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:01 pm EST

Chris Stewart may have been traded.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:01 pm EST

So, the Habs pick up Torrey Mitchel and Brian FLymm from BUF today?

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:59 pm EST

Prospect and pick from Habs to Buf for Mitchell

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:58 pm EST

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding,,,,, Ring the Bell on the NYSE !!!!!! No after hours trading !!!!!!

mf


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:58 pm EST

JFC - Another way is to shift shift HAYES to W and bring DOM MOORE up to center the 3rd line and SHepherd the 4th lines,..Makes a little more sense to...I still have questions baoutthe 3rd line and D of the 3rd pair..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:57 pm EST

checking in quickly between meetings - Rangers done or last min Eriksson/John Scott on the way:) thanks!

jim9k26


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:57 pm EST

Atkinson re-ups for 3 years.

RF73


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:57 pm EST

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod ..... Blue Jackets re-sign Cam Atkinson to a 3-year, $14.5M contract

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:56 pm EST

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger ....... Mitchell from Buf to Mtl.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:56 pm EST

PENGUINS have made another DEAL..it is......

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:54 pm EST

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger........ Pittsburgh has at least one more trade pending.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:53 pm EST

If the letter is legit, it's awesome..... HockeyRumors&Trades ‏@HockeyRandT ...... Check out this letter from from former #BlueJackets Jordan Leopold's daughter, Jordyn, who wrote a letter to the... http://fb.me/3JVuIsnNm

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:50 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC ..... CLB trying to get an extension done with Cam Atkinson

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:47 pm EST

Ranger: Respectfully, if the experience he brings is so valuable than why is his decision making so poor? He is a rolling nightmare out there who physically is on the back side of the mountain. I would have preferred to keep Moore over him. At least Moore had the giddyup to get back after making a mistake. Boyle is a nightmare and if he weren't than why did we get Yandle? Wasn't Boyle supposed to be our long awaited PPQB? I would like him and his $4.5M move prohibiting salary (along with Glass') off the books so we can go out and bring in more useful players in -

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:45 pm EST

Rangers have done nothing to address their FO woes and that is shocking to me. Only way it would seem to be addressed would be if Shepard was put up to 3rd line and his scouting report indicates that might be a stretch for him (though I disagree)

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:43 pm EST

Per David Pagnotta of TFP; #Canadiens are still working on a move for a forward. #Habs

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:42 pm EST

I'm guessing Toronto is going to be eating some salary if they are able to unload Lupul

RDW


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:41 pm EST

BlueshirtNation ‏@NYRangers_BSN....... If #NYR don't make a move in the next 21 mins it will be the first time in 12 years Sather didn't trade on #TradeDeadline day

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:40 pm EST

While I'm not enamored with Boyle, I do not understand all this "dump him" (even assuming we could). You'd have to get some secondhand D back who can start as the #6 D or else you would have to go with Hunwick. And if there's a D injury, what then? You think McI could be our #6 in a Stanley Cup run? Moreover, Boyle has experience and an upside which could be valuable in the PO run. Don't see him going anywhere, nor Glass since we need SOME toughness on call if necessary (much like the occasional Carcillo appearances last year in the POs). JMHO..

Ranger47


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:38 pm EST

Shawn Hutcheon ‏@ShawnHutcheon ..... Being told #NHLBruins are finalizing a small trade.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:38 pm EST

I thought FLYNN was trade 4-5 hours ago...?

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:37 pm EST

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie ..... Three names I am curious to see if they move by 3 pm: Artem Anisimov (CBJ); Lars Eller (MTL); Patrik Berglund (STL). As I said, just curious

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:30 pm EST

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie ...... MTL has acquired Brian Flynn from BUF. Believed to be for a 5th round pick.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:27 pm EST

Besides Lupul (who I always liked but is way too fragile) I wouldn't be surprised if Toronto pushed the button on a couple of deals at or after the buzzer. Too much pressure to not do SOMETHING at the deadline up there.

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:26 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun ...... Leafs trade Olli Jokinen to St. Louis Blues for a late pick

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:23 pm EST

NHLSourcesSay ‏@NHLSourcesSay .... #Leafs have deal close on Lupul...

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:22 pm EST

JFC: I was just about to hit Google translator to make sure we had it covered in 80 languages but I will take your word for it. The horse is indeed dead!!! LOL

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:19 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC ...... Leopold to MIN for Justin Falk and a fifth. Sorry if I gave anyone a scare

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:19 pm EST

PatrickDiv -- the two of us have all the poop analogies covered...I think.

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:18 pm EST

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod ...... Blue jackets acquire Justin Falk and a pick from Minny for Leopold

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:16 pm EST

I hope Sather can shed both Glass and Boyle asap. He will need to do so to get the cap room he needs. It is amazing how he still finds a way to turn his mistakes into something. Kinda like crapping in your hand and passing it off to your neighbor as compost

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:15 pm EST

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie ...... Jordan Leopold to MIN from CBJ.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:14 pm EST

Brennan Klak ‏@nhlupdate ...... Coyotes acquire David Leggio from Islanders

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:14 pm EST

RHET - of course he is but what i'm saying is that injuries will eventually keep him as the 12th forwad and not sitting in the stands..There is nobody else

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:14 pm EST

Trade: Just imagine if they get Matt Moulson back!!! Dude has a face that could freeze plumbing

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:13 pm EST

wow....hat Glass signing is looking like a steaming pile of dung right about now...impacts cap off-ice and was a failure on-ice. Add that to the Boyle signing and The Genius moniker gets put in its place....the circular file. More accurate moniker maybe something like The Dealer

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:12 pm EST

to me the Glass & the "certain opponents" blah blah sounds a lot like they are putting up the smoke screen telling teams we see value in him still hoping to get something for him otherwise wouldn't they just dump him to a team that needs to get to the cap floor for a low or mid round pick? Are we the only ones who see how useless he is and wasteful to the cap it is to keep him? He's more useless than a bra salesman in a field filled with Bulls.

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:12 pm EST

Hospo... Glass is more effective when he plays less.... or never..... Per Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun .... Canucks get Cory Conacher from Isles organization in exchange for Dustin Jeffrey

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:12 pm EST

TRADE - More like a Rob Zombie movie!

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:11 pm EST

If possible, the NY Islanders got a whole lot uglier as a team with the acquisition of Tyler Kennedy. Between him, Okposo and Matt Martin....its like a haunted house there.

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:08 pm EST

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr ...... Received confirmation Eberle will NOT be moved today. Despite big bids from #Habs and #Bruins the #Oilers wanted more. All talks are dead.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:07 pm EST

This "GLASS retunring agasint only certain opponents" is bull shit. (Not attacking you RHET)..Just give it a few games and more then likely he will be in every single night becasue of injuries, which have been very light on Ranger forwards this year...But, if that's the depth they want, so be it...

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:07 pm EST

Blueshirt Faithful ‏@blueshirts_ny ..... Keith Yandle will meet the media at 4:15 Sather will speak at 4:30 and Vigneault will speak at 5 p.m.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:05 pm EST

Brennan Klak ‏@nhlupdate ..... Canucks acquire Cory Conacher from Islanders

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:04 pm EST

David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod..... Blackhawks announce that the 7th round pick traded to Sharks in Desjardins/Smith deal is in 2017, not 2016

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:02 pm EST

NY Rangers Zone ‏@NYRangersZone....... Cerny and LaGreca say Glass will be the odd-man-out when Fast returns to lineup. Think Glass would return only vs. certain opponents

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:02 pm EST

to the earlier post about what Broten said about midday, I would expect the 2-3PM hour to be like a Vin Diesel movie, nonsensical, fast & furious!

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:00 pm EST

Sports net said Rangers done for the day

tlats


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:00 pm EST

Rhet: Last year something like 70% f the trades happened in the last hour and were reported AFTER the deadline as they are confirmed.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:00 pm EST

Islanders Acquire Neuvirth from Sabres for Johnson and Pick

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:59 pm EST

Stevie.... It's usually the busiest part of the day.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:56 pm EST

Come on sather 60 minutes is no time to waste..:

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:55 pm EST

John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet..... Red Wings confirm they are done for the day. No more trades from the Motor City. #NHLTrade

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:54 pm EST

mf -- I think our chances at winning The Cup hinge on exactly what you stated....having 4 EFFECTIVE lines rolling. The 4th line needs to be more than just a placeholder of icetime for the other 3 lines....they need to contribute, either by simply banging/grinding/wearing the other team down and/or chipping in the odd goal and holding the fort/showing the way when the other lines are flat. The 3rd has been damn good lately but they need to be effective under PO pressure and banging and unfortunately we will not know if they are until the POs arrive. Not a great way to go about it, but it is what it is.

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:50 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun ..... FYI that the Devils have retained $1 million of Zidlicky's salary in that trade

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:49 pm EST

Seth Rothman ‏@RothmanHockey ...... #Rangers say Keith Yandle will address reporters at MSG at 4:15, Glen Sather speaks at 4:30. Lots of news ahead this afternoon ...

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:47 pm EST

mf...beg your pardon...I'm still driving an Oldsmobile.

RF73


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:46 pm EST

mf: At this point I think Glass will not be playing anyway. Well as long as Fast is ready to play and the new guys are in town in time to dress.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:45 pm EST

Dreger reported the Nucks calling teams early to drum up interest in Kassian...Please send Glass and the Count of Monte Kristo out there for him with the Nucks eating some salary...

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:44 pm EST

Lets get Oscar in that line-up... Start him on the 4th line and let him work on mastering a simple game at this level... The guy can skate, and he knows where the net is unlike TGO (The Glass One) ... with Lindberg / Moore and any of Fast/Sheppard/Miller/Hags the 4th line is a threat to score..... When AV can role 4 lines with confidence, his 4th line is not the prototypical 4th line Like your father's Oldsmobile.. It's a line that enables the bees to keep buzzing... Let's Go Rangers !!!

mf


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:42 pm EST

Jason Mackey ‏@Mackey_Trib....... Hold tight ... being told the Penguins are working on something else.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:41 pm EST

Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak ........ Neuvirth to NYI for Johnson and pick.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:37 pm EST

Shawn Hutcheon ‏@ShawnHutcheon ..... Hamilton traded, Dougie's brother Freddy, traded from #SJS to #Colorado.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:36 pm EST

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNIBobMcKenzie ..... Ottawa in contact with Toronto, sources say discussing Bozak #TradeCentre

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:35 pm EST

Theyre clippin' him. No, its a big price to sit in stands. If Shepard is playin no room either.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:34 pm EST

HockeyRumors&Trades ‏@HockeyRandT...... Minor deal: #SJSharks trade Freddie Hamilton to #Avalanche for Karl Stollery

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:33 pm EST

Rabid- from your mouth to God's ears re Glass. Would love to see him jettisoned out for someone who can contribute

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:32 pm EST

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris..... Hearing minor-leaguer Karl Stollery has been sent to #SJSharks from #avs.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:32 pm EST

Mark Spector ‏@SportsnetSpec ...... Pittsburgh trades Robert Bortuzzo for Cole from STL #NHLTrade

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:31 pm EST

Rabid: That post made me chuckle...it like there is a hit on on him....with a big price in his head LOL

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:31 pm EST

JB ‏@JB_HockeyTalk 39s40 seconds ago The Penguins have made a trade.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:30 pm EST

Mark Spector‏@SportsnetSpec...... "Looks like New York Rangers have closed up shop for the day." ......I'm not so sure.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:28 pm EST

Glass might not make it to summer.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:24 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun..... Hawks have Desjardins, Rundblad and Versteeg all at 50 percent salaries. Stan Bowman being creative to manage the cap

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:21 pm EST

Can you all imagine if their was a WALL back in 94 during that trade deadline day :) How insane would this place have been

DOUBLEN


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:19 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun.... Tyler Kennedy traded to the New York Islanders for a conditional pick

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:18 pm EST

Ken Campbell@THNKenCampbell...... Final deal for Zidlicky: 3rd rounder in 2016. If Wings go to EC final, add a 5th in 2015. If go to SC final, 5th back to Det, becomes a 2nd.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:15 pm EST

Renaud Lavoie ‏@renlavoietva..... I'm told nothing will happen between the Oilers and the Bruins on Jordan Eberle.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:15 pm EST

HOSPO: See, we don't always disagree..;-)........................Leo, Leo....Leo. You must not be married....(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKPn2QPv35U)

Vic


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:09 pm EST

PatrickDiv: have been anticipating that. I hope it happens.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:07 pm EST

From @THNKenCampbell Pick to NJ in Zidlicky deal becomes 2nd-rounder pick if Red Wings reach final. @TSNBobMcKenzie

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:03 pm EST

The Hockey News ‏@TheHockeyNews /...... BREAKING NEWS by @THNKenCampbell : Zidlicky to the Red Wings for 3rd rounder in 2016

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:01 pm EST

She's all yours RHET..Be back for the 2 o'clock hour...Usually when the deals get done/announced

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:01 pm EST

I would think they'd trade the HFD fodder to replenish the mid level picks (if possible) that were traded away. Guys like Monte Kristo and the sort that don't have a dance card on Broadway. That additionally opens contracts up to sign the college UFA's which we have shown a big liking for

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:00 pm EST

JB ‏@JB_HockeyTalk...... In addition to trading for Ben Smith, the Sharks are also working on another trade that may done shortly (via @Real_ESPNLeBrun)

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:58 pm EST

Gotta try to follow rest from the road; dont expect much but think they land a big body from somewhere before 3. And maybe recoup some late picks from Htfd guys they're looking to move. We'll see. Already a very good deadline.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:58 pm EST

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr....... Ben Smith has been traded for Andrew Desjardins #Blackhawks #SJSharks

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:57 pm EST

Ben Smith to San Jose, Chicago gets the Sharks' Andrew Desjardins #NHLTrade

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:56 pm EST

This guy Creasy niot saying much this year..But has teams asking about IGINLA...back to Bostonn...for the Springtime...?

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:54 pm EST

Steve Zipay...... Mike Ribeiro on Yandle, former Yotes teammate: Great skater, almost feels like he’s a forward out there, good shot, great on the power play

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:53 pm EST

LeoS/JFC - Found my half Italian, half Norwegean wife in good old Brooklyn! it is quite a combo!

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:52 pm EST

LeoS -- very true...not only that, but his dad is Sicilian....an even tougher combo...but if there's anywhere you're going to find it, it's NYC!!

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:51 pm EST

dont think Zuc has too many problems in that regard. Girls at the Garden want to rip him apart....in a good way I guess. They'd better not hurt him! He's little!!!

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:51 pm EST

Hospo....no you didn't!!!LOL! I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole....OOPS!!

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:50 pm EST

ok thanks Hospo, back to work unfortunately

jim9k26


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:50 pm EST

JFC - yeah, but isn't ZUCC kinda famous for his long stick?

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:49 pm EST

And, outside of Norway or Italy, NYC has gotta be the most likely place to meet a fellow Italian-Norwegian!

LeoS


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:49 pm EST

They're were both married Leo. Here's the little thing, its not a secret really, but how Sather's pull this off. He gives them just under market value, but he guarantees them the money, or most of it, in term. Hank got 8 years. I hate that contract myself, but whatever. Girardi got 5 or 6? More than necessary by rights, but you need to keep him off the market. Staal the same, what'd he get, 5-6? NHL's not NFL. You get a contract, its guaranteed money. Somebody's paying it, or 2/3 I think is the buyout. Those 3 in particular, its guaranteeing them money a little further into their careers than you might want to (38 for Hank!!). But it really the only leeway the club has to get the deals done.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:47 pm EST

uh oh..an (E4)....watch out...."Chatter about Phaneuf heading to Calgary"

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:47 pm EST

Vic -- yeah, but having more money would have increased Zucc's odds on attracting a wife! ;^)

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:45 pm EST

JIM - So far it seems Slats has been basking in his glory form yesterday with zero activity so far except some cigar chomping..But, who knows? Guys like Brooks have the Rangers as finished...But I'm sure the Rangers are doing a little poking and listening..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:43 pm EST

Hank, Stallsy not married when they signed their arguably less-than-market deals? :)

LeoS


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:42 pm EST

been tied up all day so far with work, no chance to go back and see what everyone's been saying- Sather take today off or is anything cooking from Ranger perspective?

jim9k26


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:40 pm EST

How? LOL....haha.... they scream at you! They can also withhold certain necessities. They have their ways, let's just say....

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:39 pm EST

LeoS...it's called a wife!

RF73


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:38 pm EST

How does marital status affect contract demands, again? I'm really out of my league with some of these advanced metrics.

LeoS


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:38 pm EST

VIC - You ASS! Been thinking the same but was waiting till after the deadline...MSL concerns me and HAYES can obviously play offensively with those guys..ANother reason why I wanted a VERMETTE type, but even with what we got (Shepherd) we might be able to do it...But that's far from certain IMWO..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:36 pm EST

RR: You're right - it's the young players with their lower salaries which has let the Rangers fit who they have under the cap. And, unfortunately, having traded away so many of our picks who might have been NHL ready in that timeframe why we only have a 2-3 year window to win it all before sliding back to mediocrity. But, for now, let's be grateful for what we have and LGR for the Cup!

Ranger47


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:35 pm EST

Smith screwed Sather a few times!

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:34 pm EST

As for the roster....assuming there are no more deals there are a few possibilities. One that I think we may see if MSL doesn't get his game together is HAYES being moved to RW on the STEPAN line. He has good chemistry with KREIDER already and I think he could complement STEPAN well. Right now the STEPAN line is just not clicking at all. Moving HAYES to the RW on that may jumpstart it and take the pressure off of the BRASSARD line to produce (which they haven't been over the last few games). That would leave one of SHEPPARD, LINDBERG or MILLER to move into the 3rd line Center spot. I think the Rangers agree with just about everyone here that MILLER is a winger and should stay on the wing. I'd be more inclined to go with LINDBERG so that SHEPPARD could play wing on the 4th with MOORE and FAST. MILLER would be the odd man out assuming MSL moved into the RW spot on the 3rd line. Lots of options now, and the deadline isn't over yet.

Vic


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:33 pm EST

haha II; @rangersreport Smith said day after deadline Sather called "You screwed me. (Marchant's) a little guy." Claimed Sather was looking at Marchant's bro's bio.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:32 pm EST

haha Vic; he wouldnt have been allowed to! LOL. "Mr Kramden, have you discussed this with your wife?" "I have.... and regardless, Im goin for the $64,000 question!". Hospo, only cause this year is ....this year, Id expend a 3-4th pick to stuff Stewart in the pressbox incase we need him. he's a project at this point, a failing one LOL. Man he looked awful against us. Id explore other options but yeah, I want another big body.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:32 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun.... Coyotes retain 50 percent of Michalek's salary in trade with Blues

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:28 pm EST

JFC: One thing that I think played into this is that MZA isn't married if I'm not mistaken. If he were married there would be no way he would have settled for less then he could have gotten in July......

Vic


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:25 pm EST

Rangers wont have cap problems. Im the only one who thinks this LOL; Not only wont MSL be here, but unfortunately Talbot is going to likely get moved. Glass can be moved if necessary, the cap's going up. How much is that already? $10M? Whatever. What the Ranger NEVER get credit for is having actually fit SO many good players ( and BIG names) under their cap to begin with. You know the names, so I wont list them haha. And only reason theyve gotten away with it is guys like Kreider and Zuc havent really been on the market. Kreider had an ELC but has to be looking at $6-7m his next deal Thats when I can see things getting tight. So the youth kind of saved them a bit. We're not trading our top two centers. Shaggy ain't all that yet.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:24 pm EST

Not sure but I thought all 3rd contracts are arbitration eligible? Could be wrong. Anyways, let's agree to disagree and see how this plays out this summer.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:22 pm EST

RF4L:I dont believe he is arbitration eligible. So he takes what he can get or sits. 10% is the minimum to keep his rights. 2.75 is over that number. I would bet Sather offers a bridge deal, 1-2 years, 2.75 per. He can ask for 4 mil all he wants, but I bet his agent doesn't even start that high. Probably will ask for 3.5 to start, hoping for 3.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:21 pm EST

Wild: Going into next season with no room would be foolish. Mind you, this is Sather we are talking about so it's quite possible that will happen. Then when he's trying to add to his team to make a PO run, he'll trade his first pick in 17, 18 and 19 so the other team absorbs 90% of the salaries!

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:20 pm EST

So, who gets STEWART????

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:19 pm EST

Arizona Coyotes acquire forward Maxim Letunov from the St. Louis Blues for Zbynek Michalek and conditional 2015 3rd rounde....OK, who the HELL is this guy LETUNOV to be worth so much?

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:19 pm EST

Hagelin's stats haven't escalated but as we all know, he brings other intangibles to the team. He is making $2,250,000. He'll be asking for $4,000,000, aiming to settle perhaps, at $3,000,000. It'll be his 3rd contract with the Rangers. If he pushes too hard, however, he likely will be dealt.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:17 pm EST

RF4L: If they end up with 13 mil in cap space they don't need to trade a deal of 5 mil. I am not sure what numbers you are using...but the numbers I tossed out equal about 13.5 mil. So with some help from he players and perhaps a move of Glass or something, they will be under the cap. No room, but they will not really need it. That roster would be very good, not an ideal situation. but you make it sound like they CANT sign Step to a 5-5.5 deal and also keep everyone else. The numbers state otherwise.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:17 pm EST

York18 - Probably right...but...I really think HAYES has the potential to be an offensive whiz of a center...and though I like MILLER as wing now, with confidence I think he can play C in the future..but, I would also be game for LINDBERGER....But let's see if we keep Brass and Step first!

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:16 pm EST

According to Brooks, Zucc instructed his agents to simply do the best they could and then he'd sign. He wanted to stay in NY. Ya gotta wonder if Zucc was so open about that (telling the press and, more importantly... telling his team mates what his approach was) that Sather caught wind of it and knew he was in the driver's seat in terms of how far he had to move before Zucc caved. I said it sveral times, but Zucc literally put hs money where his mouth is. That now puts pressure on the other guys coming up for contracts to do the same. In particular, MSL better not go the ego-driven Messier route and think that a player of his "stature" deserved X dollars. If anyone owes the Rangers, it's MSL....they represent a PERFECT situation for his personal life, not just his professional life. I expect MSL to take a BIG pay cut....and I'll give him the slack to play up the idea that he's all about the team, etc, etc....the Cup is the most important hing blah, blah, blah....but the bottom lone better be a salary of about $1 - 1.5 mil. There should be no standing on principle here....oh, MSL is a hall of famer, he scored X points, etc....how vcan you pay him a Tanner Glass salary. I dont care about that....he needs to help the team by taking a cheap salary. He has no leverage. He can go play in Buffalo if he doesn't want to take what Sather offers.

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:14 pm EST

Hospo I see what you're saying thought the same and don't see this team winning like that. Lindberg would be our third line center IMO miller is suited for wing.

York18


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:13 pm EST

Esther

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:13 pm EST

RF4L: I used the high end of the 11-13 mil to sign the players. Granted, there is a bit too much there, but its not hard to spread 1 mil across all those guys and I assigned 750K for a 7th D, but they could get one for 600K like Hunwick signed for. I was using general ideas.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:12 pm EST

Sather

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:11 pm EST

Rather needs to pull out some Windex and clean Glass off the roster

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:11 pm EST

Bob's boy Renee Borque clears waiver but McGuin (somebody had mentioned him) picked up by AZ

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:10 pm EST

Stepan held out during his last negotiations, even though he had little precedent on doing so. He ended up losing because there was no leverage. This time around he's got leverage. Comparable centermen (points and experience speaking) are pulling in deals in excess of $5,000,000. I suspect his agent will start at $6,500,000 long term with the goal of getting $6,000,000. Perhaps they will settle on $5,500,000. Even at $5,000,000 the payroll cannot handle it, unless you trade one o the D-men sitting around that mark. It won't be McD and Klein has a cap friendly deal. That leaves S and G. So you pick your poison I guess.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:08 pm EST

Brassard has a modified NTC beginning15-16; Girardi has a NMC then a modified NTC; I think the NMC is for the first 2 years; can't find the info on Staal's contract.

DOUBLEN


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:06 pm EST

Horcoff was just called off the ice from practice #nhl #stars

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:06 pm EST

RF4L I think just about every player will take a deal less than their market value. Most of those guys are RFAs, and they do not have the ability to hit the open market, they and their agents will not be stupid, they will also probably want to keep playing for a cup contender, so I would bet they all sign for less than they could if there was not cap concern. As for MSL, the only thing he has said is that he doesn't want to retire. Any talk of his contract hopes are just guesswork.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:04 pm EST

Hospo: Or Hayes at number 2 and Lindberg at number 3. But I don't see Stepan going away anyplace. Brass I could see....but I also don't see it as likely.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:03 pm EST

York: Not saying I like it, just musing over the numbers. I maintain no MSL (unless he takes a drastic paycut) and either one of Brass/Step or Staal/G are gone this summer. The cap cannot afford another $5,000,000 salary.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:02 pm EST

Wild: YOur scenario puts the team over the projected cap and comes with most of those players accepting deals less than their street value. I read somewhere yesterday that its not expected that MSL will accept a pay cut, especially one where his salary drops by >50%. I don't see it happening but not gonna get into an endless argument with you. We can revisit this in June and beyond.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:01 pm EST

York18 - Hayes? then you slot Miller into 3rd C? Just a possibility..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:00 pm EST

Let's see if this one Pans out ..From EKLUND...."Keep an eye on Minnesota"..and "WILD in on a big name"..Here's your chance Ek...

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:58 am EST

RF4L: Zucc was pressing for a long term 5.5 mil deal. He has reportedly agreed to a 4 years 4.5 mil deal. After now, what 4 guys, Hank, McD, Staal, now Zucc have taken less than market value, I think Step will do the same. Its not like 5.5 mil, or even 5 mil is chump change....

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:57 am EST

I'm going to have to join the concerned for the future club. Firsts seconds and even prospects going. Todays NHL needs young talent for a team to stay in the cap and if what we have doesn't pan out then what? No secret I didn't think duke was going to be this top line player any time soon I guess sather figured the same. I guess so did others because they wanted a lot more then just duke......RF you move one of those two amd what kind of second line center will we have?.....Wild msl doesn't look like he's having fun......

York18


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:57 am EST

CHIN/DOUBLE - Good points on GLASS...But the real question is can Sather make him disappear!!!

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:56 am EST

SO here is my plan if I could control the world. Hags 2.75, Miller 1 mil, Fast 1 mil, Step 5.5, MSL 2.5, 6th D 750K. that would be 13.5 mil. You could resign Lindberg for 1 mil and trade Moore and his 1.5 mil. Makes it a 13 mil hit to get those guys signed. Better would be also to have MSL be at 1.5 mil with 2 mil worth of bonuses for goals, assists and playoff rounds won. Would also trade Glass for a similar player who costs less. Sure there is one who would make 1 mil or less to play with the Rangers.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:55 am EST

Glass sucks!!!

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:55 am EST

Glass is a -13 when mostly everbody else is a plus player

DOUBLEN


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:54 am EST

chin: Fair enough - so pretty crappy off-season job by Sather: Boyle, who sucks, Glass, who sucks, and Stempnicrap, who at least he managed to jettison. Given the crunched cap, it looks like Sather will limited this off-season on further stupid UFA signings.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:51 am EST

RF4L: Don't want to speak for others, but there are numerous reasons I have an issue with Glass. First let me say that I like having a physical element and someone to protect teammates, but if that person can't play, they have no place in today's NHL, at least when the playoffs start. Dorsett and Carcillo can both skate and have a little bit of hockey skill. Throw Glass's hits stats at me all you want, but I can't remember the last time one of his hits turned the tide or kept another team from getting out of the zone. I wanted to give Glass a chance, and did, for 30 games or so. But what I've heard from Pens fans and what I've seen in his stats have rung true: he's a black hole possession wise. He's among the worst, if not THE worst, possession forward in the NHL the past 3 years for guys who have played regularly. I don't care if he scores, but unlike last year's 4th line, this year's version doesn't keep the puck very often. The worst part (which isn't his fault, but still) is the contract. Wasting 1.5 mil for THREE years on a plug is borderline insane, especially when we had a far better player (Dorsett) for one more year at just slightly more.

chinstrap


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:51 am EST

Wild: Because 1) there's not enough money to fill out the roster 2) Stepan will be pushing for a long term $6,000,000 deal 3) Brassard/Hayes (or Stepan/Hayes) as the number 1 and 2 might suffice and 4) the cap isn't going up much - the Canadian dollar is trading at 80 cents and showing no signs of reversal. Something has to give. If Stepan and Brassard are here next year one of Staal/Girardi won't be. The Rangers cannot afford to add another contract exceeding $5,000,000. It's that simple.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:47 am EST

RF4L: I don't get that. Stepan? Why would they trade him? He has been nearly (or at) a point per game player since the end of last season. Brass would go first IMHO, but I don't think either will go anyplace. I mean for 1, we have no idea what the cap will be exactly. Or how much the RFA's will sign for, or what trades could happening the offseason. I think everything will end up OK....and most of the players here now will be back next season.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:47 am EST

Interesting Tweet from Brain LAWTON "Hitting transition period now when selling clubs starting to realize the phone is't ringing and prices need to b reset".... Makes sense

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:46 am EST

And even removing those 2 still puts the Rangers in cap hell after signing the others. Cap space is needed in order to acquire players without having to cough up high picks in order to get other team to eat salary.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:44 am EST

Re cap space - not nearly enough and why MSL is likely done and Stepan (or Brassard) will be moved at the draft for picks. Unless the Oilers select 1 or 2, I could see Stepan going there for their first rounder. That would help offset big time no firsts for 4 consecutive years.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:36 am EST

VIC - Very possible...Also, not sure Sather even said it, just Brooks throwing it out..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:35 am EST

lying in the weeds Hospo.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:35 am EST

Ooops, you beat me RHET..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:34 am EST

Larry Brooks ‏@NYP_Brooksie ..... Rangers appear to have between $11-13M of space next year for Stepan, Hagelin, St. Louis, Miller, Fast, a seventh D and/or a 13th F.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:34 am EST

HOSPO and RHET: The Rangers could be done or that could be SATHER trying to nudge someone into lowering their asking price. It seems odd to me that SATHER would make that statement several hours before the deadline. Usually that kind of statement happens in the last 15 minutes or so.

Vic


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:34 am EST

From Rhetoric@twitter."I'm taking s break. I can't look at twitter anymore"

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:33 am EST

It is so boring that TSN staged & broadcast a llama chase in their parking lot. Update to follow.

RF73


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:33 am EST

Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland..... Calgary #Flame continue to be attached to Chris Stewart along with #Bruins

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:30 am EST

I'm taking s break. I can't look at twitter anymore :)

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:28 am EST

Larry Brooks‏@NYP_Brooksie..... Update: Unless something unforeseen develops, Rangers have completed their business.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:27 am EST

BROOKS; "Unless something unforeseen develops, Rangers have completed their business."...Mistake in my books...

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:27 am EST

Pierre LeBrun@Real_ESPNLeBrun...... As of now, Wings feel price too high on Phaneuf. Won't go anywhere unless price drops.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:26 am EST

Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance..... Five teams in on Chris Stewart right now.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:22 am EST

DOUBLEN - Seems I was clicking on things I didn't need to. I scrolled down and voila! Thank you very much.

ges999


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:22 am EST

RHET - "RangersYappers"?? Man, you got them all covered!..I

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:21 am EST

Might be wishful thinking..... "Rangers Yappers@RangersYappers..... Rumors that Sather IS trying to get rid of Tanner Glass. #NYR #Update #Sports"

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:20 am EST

DOUBLEN - Tried a different browser and still asking for credit card info. I will just rely on you for updates!

ges999


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:19 am EST

RHET - I would think DALLAS would start dumping players like HORCROFF, FIDDLER, EAVES and others.

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:17 am EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun..... Couple of teams inquiring with Dallas on pending UFA C Shawn Horcoff...

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:16 am EST

Gord Miller ‏@GMiller...... As of now, Detroit has decided that the asking price for Phaneuf is too high. Lines of communication are still open, but nothing close.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:16 am EST

GES: Was never asked for credit card info. I have it on at work and listening to it.

DOUBLEN


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:11 am EST

DOUBLEN: tride it but they are asking for a credit card - just so that they can confirm my address. Did you have to do that?

ges999


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:09 am EST

BrianWilde ..... Kessel to MTL or Eberle to MTL in big package is making rounds among the doyen.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:08 am EST

Easson : Trade: Blues Acquire Zbynek Michalek from Coyotes for a prospect and pick ..done..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:07 am EST

Suspect Glass ain't going anywhere - he was likely signed with the blessing of AV. And the hatred for this guy - the only Ranger who'll protect his mates - escapes me.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:07 am EST

Wonder if the Isles do anything?Need to tighten up defensively, although I rather they not!

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:07 am EST

Rob Z.... Stewart may still end up in BOS.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:06 am EST

If Glass got waived and went down to Hartford, $900,000 would be off the cap.

DOUBLEN


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:06 am EST

JFC - Spot on...

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:06 am EST

As suspected very slow day - most of the deals went down yesterday it seems. So far, 2 relatively uneventful trades, both involving Montreal.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:05 am EST

Rhet: I think, in regard to Stewart, teams are not hinging their fates on him, but in the 11th hour they will cal and hope to offer the best deal BUF has heard and will not have to negotiate much at all and hope BUF will jump at something so they don't end up losing him for nothing.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:05 am EST

Little deal: HABS aquire BRIAN FLYYNN from Sabres for a pick...

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:04 am EST

Still like a D-man to take BOyle's spot!..A forward would be cool too..but not holding my breath.

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:03 am EST

Drew: If they sent Glass down like 925K would come off the cap. Not sure the exact number, but its a percentage of the salary based on the cap or something like that. The only thing they could do is move him to a team willing to take him on. Maybe with with a pick and a mid level guy....lets say Glass, a 4th rounder, R.Bourque to "team X" for a 5th and a 6th or a 5th and future consideration or some such nonsense.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 11:02 am EST

JB....... Still early.. But not many teams showing interest in Chris Stewart...... ........Still over 4 hours to go.. But there's talk he may come down to the last hour (wouldn't be surprised)

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:59 am EST

Given the proclivity of the organization to sign close to NHL ready college FA's I don't see it as too much of an issue. Yes I would love to have my first round picks but I'd rather have another cup first! I am getting tired of telling my 10 yr old how great it was way back when

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:59 am EST

Brooks tweet - (can't cut and paste) - Rangers believed to be working on adding another forward. Then he joked that the trade would include Nash's son.....but I wonder who they are lookihg at? What's the penalty for waiving Glass? Does it clear the full 1.5 million?

DREW


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:57 am EST

Yeah, read back Hospo but at some point you'll see where you might as well just stop and go back up again..:^)

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:57 am EST

I think there is less than a 1% chance of the cap going down. The influx of the new TV deal in Canada along with the 5% kicker from the NHLPA (they will vote for it or the salaries will be smaller and not grow over this year at all) will not allow the cap to drop...I read on some article that some financial person came up with a number, and the only way the cap would go down would be in the Canadian Dollar was worth 52 cents against the US Dollar. IF that happens, well, there will be bigger things to worry about than the cap because that would mean the Canadian economy was collapsing.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:57 am EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 2m2 minutes ago Blues acquire Michalek from Arizona

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:57 am EST

GES: See my post at 1048am today; have it on right now.

DOUBLEN


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:56 am EST

MICHALEK to BLUES pending trade CALL...Good pick up

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:55 am EST

Rather= Sather....lolz

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:55 am EST

Rather will smurf the team up with Cam Atkinson instead of going for big body chris stewart....that is my prediction

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:55 am EST

DOUBLEN -- No, missed that one.....Thanks. .Yikes..looks like a high price..but makes them a better team this year.....Can't believe the BRUINS will stop at CONNOLY...

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:53 am EST

A site that preferrably doesn't ask for credit card info.

ges999


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:51 am EST

JFC: Almost half his points came last month. Add to that he is on a crap team, and doesn't have much help. He isn't a guy who makes a line, he is part of one. He needs better players around him. Thats not a "bad" think, there are lots of players like him, but in the right situation he is a 20-30 goal scorer with 10-15 PPG in a full season. BUF is not that team, The Blues WERE that when they had injuries and he was a top 6 guy, but after they got healthy he was a 3rd line guy and didn't do much production wise. But int he post season, when depth can be the difference maker, he would be a good add, and as you said, a MJOTR upgrade over Glass. Hell, send the Sabers a 3rd and Glass along with like R. Bourque (or someone of that ilk) for Stewart and some retention of salary.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:51 am EST

HOSPO: Did you get Coburn to Tampa

DOUBLEN


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:51 am EST

I too think the die has ben cast that MSL will not be back. The signing of MZA seals it in my book. MSL is a solid pro and a good influence on the young players but unless he takes a 1yr $1M deal with cap friendly incentives he will not be here. Too many contracts to deal with next season coupled with the cap possibly going down makes it next to impossible. The other item I am thinking of is where the Yandle deal leaves Boyle? Boyle has been a defensive nightmare and somewhat snakebit on the injury front. Cap issues make it even worse...I would bring up McIlrath and get Boyle to hand a list of possible trade partners given his NMC to take he and his $4.5M salary away from MSG.

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:51 am EST

Good morning. Hate giving up another first but it is what it is. We will know in a few months if it was worth it. Wonder how this will affect Boyle's mindset the rest of the year. And all this is meaningless if Nash is concussed and Hank isn't the same as before the injury. Anybody have a link to the trade deadline shows? TSA.ca is asking for a username password.

ges999


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:49 am EST

OK, just jumping back into the Pool for the first time since last evening...I caught CONNOLY to BRUINS and PETRY to HABS on a ticker.....ANything else? Yeah, I'll read back also..

Hospo


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:48 am EST

If you want to watch/listen to TSN's draft day coverage...http://www.liveonlinetv247.net/tsn.php

DOUBLEN


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:46 am EST

Wild -- from what I've seen of Stewart so far this season, facing him in the POs doesn't concern me....but, I do agree that putting his big body on our 4th line would be a step up over Glass.

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:46 am EST

"cynical"

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:46 am EST

WILD.... I also read that ROR is no longer available. I'm cybical and I don't actually expect Phaneuff to be traded, except maybe if a Detroit loses their minds or something.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:40 am EST

Rhet0ric: That would kinda shock me. AVS have been all over saying they don't expect to do anything at all, let alone something big. and they have been high on ROR again. That could be just to try to get teams to call offering more of course, but just yesterday the local Colorado guys were saying they were not hearing much chatter at all.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:39 am EST

There is something to look t as well. Boyle has a deal through next season. Yandle is half price (2.625 mil) next year. That means that they will have the 4.5 mil from Boyle to put towards Yandles 2.625 or a total of 7.125 to resign him after next season. Trade looks better that way, although, I hate giving up Duclair and a first for him....but if he helps win the cup, its hard to not like it....

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:36 am EST

"Chris Stewart's value appears to be dropping...hearing 3rd or 4th round pick...and Sabres retaining salary. #NHLTrade" Via Twitter Do it Glenny boy. Depth is always good, and Stewart is better with better players, could help the PP some, or just 5 on 5. A chance to win the cup may energize him. Rather him be with the Rangers than playing against them in the playoffs.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:34 am EST

Have to wonder. Would MSL be willing to take a 1 years 1.5 mil deal with a few bonuses built in to bring it to like 2.5-3? OR will he decide if they win the cup that he want s to retire on top. I HIGHLY doubt that, I think he enjoys playing still, so retiring wound be on his mind. I think most likely he takes a lot less money, and perhaps he has already told Sather he is willing to have a base salary thats much much lower and they are just waiting to actually sit down and hammer it out. Lots of possibilities with him, because its a strange situation. He really wants to play near home. Gives him 3 teams to choose from, but two don't "need" him and one will be a poor team. Rangers and Islanders don't "need" him and the Devils will be struggling for a season or two most likely. His best bet to keep playing, make a little money and be able to enjoy the experience is with the Rangers.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:31 am EST

Michael Grosso...... #BREAKING - Per sources, the Colorado Avalanche are making a HUGE push for Dion Phaneuf and ROR has been discussed.

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:29 am EST

So the Ask for Stewart from BUF is now a 3rd or a 4th rounder? Hey, how bout this. If Sather offered up a 4th rounder if BUF picks up 50% of his salary. Tell them the deal will be there if they can't get anything better. Stewart for half price the rest of this year would fit under the cap and he could help, and would be depth....even as a 4th line guy he would be an improvement, and again, at half price he would fit under the cap.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:25 am EST

I think MSL will not be resigned and one of Brassard/Stepan will be moved as 2 of the major offseason decisions. Cap is tighter than ever and why, I suspect, Sather had to give up so much to get Yandle (because the Yotes are eating 1/2 his salary - that's a negotiating chip in favour of Maloney).

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:09 am EST

The more I think about it, the more I think that MSL will not be back next season. He looks a lot like a guy that has lost it. Par for the Rangers course, the guy was way up the scorers list for the 2 years before he came to NY, now he is in the crapper. Yandle makes Boyle expendable. Too bad nobody is dumb enough to take him off our hands.

Bob


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:08 am EST

As for today, I have the feeling that SATHER has one more move in store. That is what scares me. HAGS-HAYES-MILLER and SHEPPARD-MOORE-FAST feel like a pretty good bottom 6 to me. GLASS and LINDBERG can be the extra forwards to work in the lineup if someone gets hurt or struggles.

Vic


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:03 am EST

On SHEPPARD, not real familiar with his game but for a 4th rounder it seems like a good deal to me. And.........on the big deal. I have some real mixed feelings about this deal. Like RF4L and others I am frustrated with SATHER dealing away #1 and #2 round picks like candy. The Rangers are very much in danger of having no pipeline at all over the next 3 to 5 years. The only caveat to that is that the Rangers have a young core and the signings like HAYES and HAGGERTY may mitigate not having draft picks IF SATHER can do that once or twice more over the next few years. There can be no argument that the Rangers aren't going for it this year. The YANDLE deal proves that they are. DUKE may turn out to be a horrible loss, or not. I think there are some questions as to his future. In the end I think this deal only is a positive for the Rangers if they win a Cup this year and can find some way to resign YANDLE. I see the latter as even more unlikely then the former. YANDLE is in for a big payday next July. Can the Rangers afford to invest such a huge percentage of the Cap in HANK and their D corps? Is there any money left to resign HAGS or STEPAN? These are questions for the off-season but the Rangers are going to need to move salary this off-season and even with that there is no way MSL can be resigned. There will be a lot of spots to fill next season.

Vic


Mon Mar 2 2015 10:02 am EST

Saw a Zucc jersey today at the Oslo airport. His re-signing is big news over here. I am glad he is staying. A real likeable kid with skill. Hard to believe there is anything else for Sather to trade after emptying the cupboard yesterday. Glad we have Yandle though. Hopefully, he gets extended for a few years. Sather's tenure does have one benefit.........I am not tempted to watch the NHL draft anymore.

Bob


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:55 am EST

On STEMPNIAK.....I'm not sure what to think. I never considered STEMPNIAK as an add for this season. I always looked at him as a guy that it might be nice to have in the playoffs. An experienced winger who has been there before and can score the odd goal. Having him around for the season (blocking the evaluation of a HAGGERTY or HRIVIK) and then trading him away now seems like the opposite way to handle him. Scratching my head on this one but I guess AV made it clear that he wasn't thrilled with STEMPNIAK.

Vic


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:52 am EST

On the deals so far. First, and foremost, I'm glad MZA was resigned. The deal is a good one for the team (and for the player). It should serve as a reminder to people that the handling of potential UFAs at the deadline is complicated. What you see on the surface isn't always the full story. So many people here were freaking out about MZA potentially being traded and SATHER's handling of the situation. In the final analysis you can see that SATHER handled it extremely well. He waited until the Rangers had their greatest leverage and pushed to resign MZA at a number that the team could handle moving forward.

Vic


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:48 am EST

TD: Nice to see a post from you this weekend. We haven't always seen eye-to-eye but your absence was felt here. Don't be such a stranger....

Vic


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:38 am EST

General concensus on Sharks boards are that Shep is more effective at wing and struggled most when he was put at 3rd line center there. Seems he got overwhelmed with center responsibilities. Which is fine. Take a seat Glass.

stepunmytoe


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:32 am EST

Some of the tweeters who were on it yesterday saying Petry to MTL.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:19 am EST

Rabid - I left it on the other wall.

DREW


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:16 am EST

Once upon a time on the Wall, rumors heard from Wallsters who had a source or two would be a good enough reason for me to spend a little more time on this site. However, if said rumors only lead to: "I told you so!" "HA you were wrong!" "I was right so FU!" "You're a poopiehead!" or any other babyish remark backed with cybermuscles, I'd rather no one mention any rumors at all for the sake of the dignity of this Wall. I'll hold out for 6 more hours and see what happens.

jratelle19


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:15 am EST

Yup. Gime an email,Drew, ill send around 10 . Was promised a final update. maybe do it that way.sick of this nonsense.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:08 am EST

Ranger rumors?

DREW


Mon Mar 2 2015 9:01 am EST

Yeah well JFC, itscreally only clear wgen someone says it.Ill just tell you, woke to couple rumors today. One of which I do not like the sound of at all. But Im not going to post them, or probably any more. Why would I? For what? Anyway I am pleased this morning to think we subtradted John Moore and added Yandle. Thats all that deal was. Duke wasnt here & its not draft day.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:54 am EST

Only cause you touched on an area of termendoud personal pride do I even respond, York, cause no one wants to read crap bewteen us. But been playin since age 5. Gave the scars - and trophies - to prove it. Great to hear youre breeding! Ever think of getting snipped? ;)

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:53 am EST

A lovely, pollution free Sunday on The Wall turns into a garbage scow Monday because some people just can't STFU and need to swing their d!cks. Pathetic. And it's pretty obvious who's doing the agitation and the antagonization.

JFC31


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:50 am EST

Yandle was traveling last night. Im sure Shepard will be too. Had plenty of time.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:39 am EST

Will Sheppard and Yandle be in the lineup tonight for the Rangers?

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:37 am EST

HIGH FIVE The Rangers are the only NHL team to rank in the top five in goals per game and goals against per game this season. The Blueshirts rank in the top five in the NHL in the following categories: goal differential (tied for first – plus-40), regulation/OT wins (tied for second – 35), goals per game (third – 3.10), goals against per game (fourth – 2.41), shots on goal per game (tied for fourth – 31.4), and points percentage (fifth – .672). FAB FEB. The Blueshirts posted a 10-2-2 record in February this season. The Rangers tied a franchise record for the most wins they have recorded during the month of February in one season. The Rangers ranked second in the NHL in points percentage (.786) and tied for second in the NHL in wins (10) in February, and they led the Eastern Conference in both categories during the month. The Blueshirts led the NHL in goals (52) and goals per game (3.71) in February, marking the first time they led the league in both categories in one calendar month during a season since April 2013. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2015/03/02/deadline-day-predators-at-rangers-tonight-7-p-m-pre-game-notes/#sthash.ZkPxQynS.dpuf

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:37 am EST

Nhl network has all day coverage but we can't get the tsn crew who I like much better then the crew they have on in the U.S.

tlats


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:34 am EST

"Sheppard, who’ll fill in nicely as a bottom-six center and likely allow rookie Kevin Hayes to move to a wing,"

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:33 am EST

Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord James Shepard, 26, a left-shooting C, was ninth overall pick of the 2006 draft by the Wild. Five goals, 11 assists for Sharks this season.

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:31 am EST

New York RangersVerified account ‏@NYRangers #NYR fans join us in wishing @HLundqvist30 a Happy Birthday!! 🎉

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:22 am EST

All day deadline coverage on the 2 major sports networks here. Pretty funny - each has about 10 guys involved.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:20 am EST

Wow, the price for Coburn was higher than Yandle IMO.

RF4L


Mon Mar 2 2015 8:05 am EST

Glass might get scratched a lot with the other 6 in front of him...hayes, hagelin, miller, moore, shepherd, and fast....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:31 am EST

IMO, it will be a successful deadline if Sather can deal away Glass to get that salary off the books and claim Tye McGinn at a fraction of the cost. I truly wanted Glass to work out but man is he awful. What makes it worse is that although he is very willing to drop em that contract is so bad for an 8-10 min a night player it just kills the cap managment of the team.

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:26 am EST

and he has some playoff experience 2013 and 2014, and so does yandle from 2010, 2011 and 2012.....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:20 am EST

is listed c/lw, so he can take face-offs......http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/player-bio/james-sheppard

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:14 am EST

York: Never really thought about a "well rested Hank" that is indeed a dangerous thought for the rest of the league. Still worried about the face off situation. For most teams that is not a huge issue but when you play a possession style game like we do, losing faceoffs as much as we do turns us into a pursuit team as opposed to a posession team.

PatrickDiv


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:05 am EST

Anyone venture to guess where this team would be if they had a healthy Boyle and Stepan to start the season? I'd guess top team in the east at the very least. Crazy to think after coming off a cup runamy thought was luck we are one of the top teams in the east despite missing two major players at the start. Yandle makes this team stronger makes the other team have to seriously worry about a Pp that was dead last year. I still have concerns about Hayes but this team looks better then last years team amd msl has played more like a passenger as of late and hopefully wakes up. The best part we should have a well rested Hank for the playoffs for the first time. That fact alone means this team is in a better place.

York18


Mon Mar 2 2015 7:00 am EST

so sather has 8 more hours to play....he did what he set out to do with the pockets he had.....he's genius for a day, hopefully for this year.....

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:55 am EST

I'm not sure about all the rocks being thrown at Glass, make 100% sense. At least the guy hits and drops his gloves. What is really expected of a 4th line half goon player?.....they are supposed to be the crash line, with puck possession. That's been mostly accomplished.......with him and Moore, ( no d needed any-Moore), and whoever veenyo decides to put on line. Any he doesn't always dress glass, and might be inclined to play fast and shepherd instead, along with jtters( looks better without the I ). so the bottom 6 is stronger and the d is stronger, and the new guy can take faceoffs....mission accomplished....on to the real mission......

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:55 am EST

Rabid really I stopped coming here because last year on deadline day you whooped my arse? Yup crazy you got me I stopped coming here last year as much right after the rangers dealt gabby amd torts was fired roflmao. Well 1 out of three isn't bad since yes I stopped coming as a frequent poster at the end of last year but gabby was not traded from the rangers last year moe was torts the coach if ignorance went like pestilence we would all be in trouble when it came to. (I'll give you a minute to look it up) Back yet? Good, I'd smack the stupidity out of you but I'd end up on manslaughter charges for trying that or I'd get a medal for public service not sure which. I unlike you have a life son we saw how full of crap you really are the day everyone was talking about playing in their youth and you had nothing to add and even begged for a truce when i called you out on it amd that's because youre full of crap. I made a choice last year about where to better spend my less abundant extra time and it was not on a message board all day like you. Crazy but life goes on outside of a message board you'd know that if you had any actual friends that weren't cyber related. Anyone with more then two brain cells that actually get along know I still take you to task hell you whine and cry about it all the time. With that said I'm done wasting my 5 min of time I have for here on you. I'd look for a witty or slick response but there won't be one just an angry cuss ridden response about how tough you are and what you'll do to me blah blah see what I just did there? Probably not but if you did now you're really jammed up have a good one.........

York18


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:46 am EST

"....Sather went bold. The Rangers should be emboldened. They’re set. Their depth is in quality, not necessarily quantity. A team with Marc Staal or Keith Yandle on the third pair is formidable. The top six with Zuccarello — who instructed his agents to make the best deal possible with the Rangers, knowing it would be at a discount off what he could have commanded on the open market — is formidable. The goaltending is more than formidable. The Rangers are as good as anybody in the East. And they are better team Monday than they were on Sunday. In other words, better today than yesterday in a place called Rangerstown in which tomorrow is no longer in the vocabulary. "

stevielegs


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:34 am EST

By the way. That means Sather could go grab a guy with an average of 2.5-3 mil. Yandle has a full season hit of 2.6+ for the Rangers and is under 600k the rest of the season, so that means 2.5-3mil avv will cost 500-600 k for the rest of the season.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:32 am EST

So according to NHLnbers.com. The Rangers have 757k in cap. FAR more than I thought. Yandle is 593k Sheppherd is 294k for this season. Subtract the outgoing guys and Sather improved the blueline, got help for the bottom six...and still has just under a mil in cap space to do something else.

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 6:19 am EST

So. 20 points at game 61 is good for a Dman right. Boyle is a disappointment because he has just 15. Boyle who has played 44 games mostly due to the puck breaking his hand would have, if he played all 61 Rangers games and scored at the same pace, 20-21 points. It could be argued that if he didn't miss time he wouldn't have had to get back up to game speed and would have a few more points than that. So if Yandle had broken his hand game one would he be a disappointment with less than 20 points?

Wildcard


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:52 am EST

The Rangers, it should be noted, have two defenseman with more than 20 points. Dan Boyle, a heralded import this season, has not delivered the punch expected from the blue line with 15 points. The power play, while ranked No. 11 in the League, needs to be better in the postseason when goals are at more of a premium. Last postseason, the Rangers' power play struggled at 12.6 percent efficiency and was one of the reasons they lost to the Los Angeles Kings, going 2-for-22 in the Stanley Cup Final.

RF73


Mon Mar 2 2015 5:22 am EST

The Rangers Get: D Keith Yandle, D Chris Summers and a fourth-round pick. Yandle is a 28-year-old offensive defenceman who has lived a sheltered existence in the desert, being deployed against softer competition and starting more of his shifts in the offensive zone. There's nothing wrong with that, but it is useful to recognize that his usage is tilted towards offensive production. Yandle is productive, too. Since the start of the 2010-2011 season, Erik Karlsson is the only full-time defenceman with more points than Yandle (Dustin Byfuglien has more, too). Moving to a Rangers team with a deeper defence, Yandle may still be used in similar fashion, but also may not need to log 24 minutes per night, as he has for the past couple of seasons in Arizona. Yandle should also help the Rangers power play. Among 63 defencemen to have played at least 100 minutes on the power play this season, Yandle ranks seventh in points/60 minutes (5.72) ahead of the Rangers' top power play defencemen Ryan McDonagh (25th, 4.31), Dan Boyle (39th, 3.21), and Dan Girardi (63rd, 1.14). This upgrade on the Rangers blueline isn't a short-term rental either. Yandle, whose contract comes with a $5.25-million cap hit, is signed through next season, but is a bargain for the Rangers since Arizona is going to retain half of Yandle's salary. Summers, 27, was a first-round pick in 2006, but hasn't been able to secure full-time NHL employment, struggling to reach 45% possession in 64 career games. Since Summers isn't likely to beat out Matt Hunwick for the seventh spot on the Rangers' blueline, his inclusion in the deal is more about the Rangers taking on the contract, a one-way deal that will cost $600,000 per year through next season. The fourth-round pick is to help offset the pick value going to Arizona, and an early fourth-round pick presents nearly a one-in-four chance of getting an NHL player. The Coyotes Get: D John Moore, LW Anthony Duclair, a second-round pick in 2015 and a conditional first-round pick in 2016. Moore is a 24-year-old defenceman who was the 21st pick in the 2009 Draft. He's almost exclusively played in a third-pair role, never averaging more than the 15:49 per game that he played as a rookie in 2011-2012. Going to Arizona, where they are re-shuffling the deck (dealing Yandle and most likely Zbynek Michalek), could give Moore an opportunity to play regularly for the rest of the season, something that wasn't happening for him in New York. Moore, whose cap hit is $850,500 this season, will be a restricted free agent in the summer. Duclair is a 19-year-old winger who starred in Rangers training camp, earning a job with the big club to open the season. After playing in a part-time role for the Blueshirts, Duclair joined Team Canada for the World Junior Hockey Championship, where he contributed eight points (4 G, 4 A) in seven games, before he was ultimately returned to junior hockey. With the Coyotes in a rebuilding mode, acquiring a winger who should be a top-six forward is a nice young piece to add to the rest of the prospects in the pipeline. There could be room for Duclair to stick in Arizona as soon as next season, if he's ready. Getting a second-round pick and a conditional first-round pick from the Rangers is further value for a franchise in transition. If the first-round pick is in the second half of the round, there is still nearly a three-in-five chance that it will become an NHL player, while a pick in the second half of the second round brings a little better than 31% odds of yielding an NHL player. Verdict: It's a bold move by the Rangers and they'll have Yandle at a very reasonable cost, at least through next season, but by easing the financial burden on the Rangers, the return is really good for Arizona. The draft picks ought to provide at least one NHL player, while Moore can still prove that he's capable of handling a regular role. Duclair may be a bit of a wild card, but seems quite likely to have an NHL career. In the ideal world for Arizona, they have four pieces in exchange for Yandle (and shedding Summers' contract). It's also possible that none of the players going to Arizona materialize as expected, but pick a result somewhere in the middle and the Coyotes can be happy with what they are getting back.

RF73


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:38 am EST

Yandle in the wind, Yankeee Yandle, couldn't hold a yandle to....,,,,,,, YandleBox...........

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:11 am EST

Not happy to see TB get Coburn. And not sure why Flyers mived him. Hes their kind of !@#$. Playoffs are going to be tougher than last year.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:10 am EST

we should get some of our AHL RFAs out there this is a pretty bullish market

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:09 am EST

2 2nds for Connolly

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:08 am EST

Still goin'?! Wow. This is a real deadline, good players moving. More tomorrow Im sure (Kessel etc) Except now time is an issue. 11 hrs & counting...

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:06 am EST

ESPN reporting Connolly too. Pretty soon, Eklund's 'source' will be on it also.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:05 am EST

The Lightning also gave up defenseman Radko Gudas and their 2015 first- and third-round draft picks in exchange for Braydon Coburn(Philly)

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 4:01 am EST

NHL Trade Rumors ‏@NHLTradeRumors...... Tampa Bay Lightning Trade Brett Connolly To The Boston Bruins http://zpzp.info/?u=8ns3L6

Rhet0ric


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:53 am EST

Actually Trade, Maloney said today it wasnt until Saturday the Rangers revised their offer. Yeah, hello, Sather had to decide once & for all. Maloney wasnt biting. He said (apparently) from when this thing included Hanzal he had to have Duke. Sather tried to g e t around it, but cant blame Maloney. He gave up his best player AND absorbed $!!There also might have been a tie-in to making sure they could get Buchnevich over here, which I presume with the soviets you never know for sure till he steps off the plane! No YORK once again, THE RANGERS declared Skjei, Duclair & Buchnevich off limits. Zippay printed it. I mentioned it. Last weekend. But lets get to it; the real reason you dont come here all the time, and now claim you only stop by to enlighten us on Xs & Os, is I whupped your ass last deadline day, on BOTH Gaborik being traded AND the return which I loved & you were against, AND on Torts and now on Yandle. And Ill KEEP doing it, forever. You dumbells dont realize, you dont know me, you dont know who I know and who I talk to (everybody). Ive been like this for years & years. It was even better under Smith, but different world then. You also dont even realize things dont have to leak from Sathers office to get out! Youse are so silly with this. I say over & over I dont care about insider status lol, and I dont. But im not taking ANY shit from you know nothing punks when Im trying to help you out. Now piss off, the both of youse. Oh, and TD made an appearance. Couldnt help bemoaning the state of things but nice to hear from him anyway.turns out he was the best of yhe bunch. Oh, and since the vermin hang on my every word, St Louis wont be back - except maybe as a coach ;)

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:17 am EST

There is a big difference between stock insider info and sports inside info. With stock inside info, the deals are sometimes done a few weeks prior to being announced. In sports, Rabid could hear about a prospective trade on Friday or Saturday from a close source and all of the sudden Don Maloney wakes up on Sunday morning dangling the Yandle carrot and figure he would try to get a bigger return. So Sather may have not wanted to deal Duclair.....but once the Yotes ate Yandle's salary for this remaining year AND next year....it definitely made Duclair more expandable because Sather has to sign a couple of guys in the off season (i think they are named Stepan and Hags).

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 3:08 am EST

"Sun Mar 1 2015 6:47 am EST And does John Moore (whos played very well since rumors came out en force) and Oscar Lindberg + 2nd + 5th get you Yandle? Prob gets you close. Then all you have to do is straighren this nmc/pt business & beat of 5-6 teams bidding. If you substitute Duclair for Lindberg you could have Jeith Y andle on the PP Monday night. I dont think Sather will spring for the latter. But yiy're trading for Yandle outright. Itd be tough. Rabid Ranger" /////// This is Moore, Lindberg a 2nd and a 5th for Yandle, saying Sather WONT bite for Duke. In THIS version, all you got right was Moore and the 2nd. Not bad for a spitball. Terrible for "insider info". You need some new sources.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:59 am EST

Rabid do you really believe the crap you post? You have so much more but you throw us rumors that are all over the net then claim that only yu amd sather knew.roflmao let me.get my bs boots out again its getting deep and smelly in here.

York18


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:57 am EST

I guess this also means were out on adding Bozak and Kessel at once, right? Vinny Lecav off the table?

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:53 am EST

Rabid YOU said duclair was.untouchable then this morning changed your tune and thank you for what a post about a rumor that was all over the net lol too funny

York18


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:48 am EST

Thats MSL(The Expert) for anyone not following this saga. How many times am I supposed to prove you wrong you dumb s*it? Whatever. IGNORE TIME. Im sure youll still read mine hahaha.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:45 am EST

Right Trade, thats what I meant. He was gone, forget why. Went to Detroit? No he was from Detroit. Idk. Hey Mess, next year you going to deny I said MDK wont be back? Lol haha. Theyre hoping he'll get the hint & they wont have to extend an offer. Write it down.lol.....

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:35 am EST

Rabid......Ray Sheppy actually did good for the NYR's....He put up almost 25 goals in his lone season......and i sorta remember that some of those goals were very timely. The other Sabres from that era that the Rangers had were Lindy Ruff and Tony McKegney.

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:32 am EST

Theyre still trading?! Oh, SO silly already. Wrong post of mine, Messier. About 730 this morning. Its there in black & white for anybody who needs to see it. I cant copy n paste here. Asked if Lindberg/Moore picks was enough. Said close but Duckair substituted for Lindberg gets it done. So suck it hehehe.JFC acknowledged it. Go argue with him. Ive really gotta put you on longterm IGnore now, hahahahaha, observe the ToS LOL.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:29 am EST

Couldnt be clearer than the black and white I just copied and pasted. Everyone knew Moore was going in a trade for a D AND that Arizona wanted to reunite Duclair and Domi. Beyond being wrong about Vermette being part of the deal, you were also wrong about how much it'd cost for either. Not trying to rub your face in it, but youre claiming credit for trades you never called.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:25 am EST

Here is a kewl way to see the NY Rangers lines now with that trade........ http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/lines/32/new-york-rangers

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:24 am EST

Trade; Green Manilishi ;) and I thought of the other Sheppard today, swear! good righty sniper (bad mustache?)we didnt get much out of.a dollar eh? Not sure if I knew that or not! Lol. MESSIER, your positions suffered the ULTIMATE repudiations today,and not just from me early Sunday morning talking specifically about Duclair, Moore & draft picks for Yandle (only) , when no one else on the planet, save the principals, was. And thats Glen Sather, Gorton, AV and the rest of the New York Rangers saying you didnt know what the fuck you're talking about and consummating the deal for real! Now I didnt want to say it that way, because others here shared that opinion, and I try to respect those who show some. But the PROS just told you to STFU. and like I said BEFORE the trade, Yandle can & now will be on the PP tonight and every night, and remind you of your wrongness. So I dont want to hear any crap after predicting, IDK, the 3rd or 4th big move in a row when no one else has, only so guys like you & York can look to downplay it, for what reasons I cant even imagine. Truth is theres more stuff Id like to bring here but cant because people are bungholes about it. And the good people here lose out - cause of you! But - and again I dont seek any kind of dopey credit - its not an accident I keep nailing this stuff! Lol. I just dont know why you wouldnt appreciate knowing it and somehow feel threatened. Very weird. Btw, Yandle's 41 points put him 6 ahead of Zuc and just below Stepan. Forgot his totals, looked it up earlier. Maybe Steps got 43? Thats a MAJOR player added, and he might be better still. Hes never pkayed with this kind of lineup!

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:17 am EST

That is a pretty steep price for Coburn

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:14 am EST

Cant remember the last time there was an after-midnight deal. I thought any late night deals had to wait until the NHL offices opened in the AM.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:12 am EST

"Sat Feb 28 2015 4:11 am EST Ok, break's over. Lets say in theory you could swap JT & D man & a few picjs and bring back Vermette & Yandle. Who's pullin the trigger? Who's the dman? Moore might not get it done if AZ wants big & mean. Maybe theyd want JT-McIlrath, maybe picks get exchanged, or lesser prospects.Yandle has 27 PP pts. If the NYR PP ever got consistent it could catapult the team to even another level. Maybe ideally AZ would want Duclair-McIlrath. Oerdonal BB prefetence, id rather keep Miller over Duke. We just dont have many PF types. But I might greenlight either. Very tempting. Theoretically tempting. Rabid Ranger Sat Feb 28 2015 4:25 am EST Try that package for either one. Thats closer to what its going to cost. Messier11 Sat Feb 28 2015 4:52 am EST Oh, Sir Spamalot, your up this hour proofreading? You think it takes 4 pieces gor either guy, one a ufa? You hit your head? Something very close to that could make it reality. But im sure you know better... Rabid Ranger"

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 2:11 am EST

The Tampa Bay Lightning acquired defenseman Braydon Coburn from the Philadelphia Flyers on Monday, according to Sportsnet's Chris Johnston. The Flyers will reportedly receive defenseman Radko Gudas, a first-round draft pick and a third-round pick.

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:54 am EST

I don't see everything you post. Winnipeg may have an ok record but that doesn't say much about Peluso. He would not be a good fit with us, only brings us more of what Glass currently does and doesn't.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:50 am EST

you can scroll back all month. I didn't say we wouldn't trade Moore. Everyone said Moore would go the other way in a trade for a D. I said you didn't have insider info. I didn't say anything after Vermette went for more than you predicted, and I didn't say anything when Yandle alone went for more than you said it'd take for both Vermette and Yandle. Bot now you're saying you called Moore and Yandle. Your posts do not support that position.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:50 am EST

This blockbuster trade rivals the Eddie Mio, Ron Duguay, Eddie Johnstone trade for Willie Huber (RIP) , Mark Osborne and Mike Blaisdell

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:46 am EST

Rabid...u gonna throw on a little Priest Hellion / Electric Eye and compare James Sheppard to the Rangers 1990 Ray Sheppard......whom Neil Smith acquired from the Sabres for a dollar?

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:44 am EST

Rabid....did Mess just dig his own Graves or what?

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:34 am EST

And Messier, that's a $1, 000 you wouldve lost when you said Moore wouldnt be traded. Wisely, you bitched out and wouldnt bet to back up your (clueless) assertion. Im sure theres some wordy explanation LOL. I also notice youre not talking about WPG being what you just called a bad team once I showed you their record! My God, its easier to point out the few things you get right! You are a mess alright.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:24 am EST

Mess11.....After 54 years, you brought the Cup to NY for us miserable Rangers fans....After that, I wouldn't have cared if you banged my Grandma.....You could do no wrong.

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:15 am EST

or get my boss or co-workers fired or traded

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 1:15 am EST

Trade- its just a handle. You only get to pick them once. I could easily be like my moniker and throw a big tantrum and quit when I don't get what I want.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:53 am EST

Mess11.......be like your moniker and lead instead of following.

TradeStar28


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:40 am EST

Does any of this matter? We got what we got & we sent what we sent.. Seems to me that we are built better than ever to capitalize on man advantage situations.. Force the opponent into taking a penalty, then make them pay for it.. Sheppard in, Stemp out, gives us a bigger, younger body that can take some draws. The offense is about the same, Stemp 9/9/18pts... Shaeepard 5/11/16 points...... ""As of now Yandle & Sheppard in, JMoore & Stempniak out""

mf


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:31 am EST

wait. The deal you had was MOORE, (whom everyone knew was going the other way for a D) either Miller/Hags, either Duke/Hayes plus picks for BOTH Yandle and Vermette. Not only was the Miller/Hags wrong, but also it was for Yandle alone. Sounds like Vermette, if we were ever in, would have cost an additional 1st and a D prospect. Probably McIlrath.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:09 am EST

Wrong again YORK. Rangers said in Zippay article 3 untouchables, inckuding Duke. Early Sunday I laid out just about the exact deal. When NO ONE else did. AGAIN. Youre welcome. Always gotta be an asd! Goodnight!

Rabid Ranger


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:08 am EST

whole 4th line is diminished by Glass being there. Moore still gets minutes on the PK, but Fast tied on the bench to Glass

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:06 am EST

It'll be nice if Lindberg can earn his way onto the big club and force a guy like Glass out.. Lindberg / DMoore / & one of: Fast, Miller, Sheppard, Hagelin is a threat to score... With Glass on the 4th, the scoring threat is diminished.

mf


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:00 am EST

Glass has a lot of hits but nothing else. A few other players are serious hitters and provide a lot more. They can do that more effectively without the extra minutes necessitated by carrying Glass. Miller and Fast have hit a lot for the games they have played. Now Sheppard. We'll be fine without Glass if we can be so lucky.

Messier11


Mon Mar 2 2015 12:00 am EST

Yandle makes this team deadly on the Pp. Taking a run at one of our guys will more then likely end up with a puck in the back of the net. If this Pp gets going with yandle teams will be reluctant to take stupid penalties.......I seem to remember someone here stating for a fact duclair was not going to be traded not but a few days ago and they knew that as inside info. Goes to show you it happens no matter what sometimes circumstances change what was said not but a day before.

York18


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:55 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2015/03/01/theres-only-one-way-bold-sather-and-rangers-win-yandle-trade/

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:55 pm EST

Nash aside, you want to punish the other team in general. We dont hit anyone, except for Kreider & Glass, but we win anyway. Whatever. Not lookin for word mincing contest. WPG is 12 games over .500 & 4th in west. Not a bad team at all.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:48 pm EST

If someone goes after Nash, just send Kreider in to crash their goalie or send Klein out head hunting their stars. That sends a message, and you don't need Glass, his ridic contract, his cement feet to send it.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:46 pm EST

who is punished and how, if Nash is out and they advance? If anything the dude that can take out Nash (whether or not Glass is around to fight him later) is getting a raise and maybe a stanley cup ring. Glass doesn't prevent that. He doesn't even dissuade that.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:41 pm EST

Mmmm...Brit Eklund....what a piece... Its not just about protection but punishment. Hey whatever at this point. Not in coaches DNA I dont think. Just win.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:32 pm EST

RHET - At the same time, BRITT EKLUND is saying FLYERS getting alot of attention on COBURN? Tomorrow might just be other team's turn!

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:28 pm EST

RHET - Now that's one out of the blue! SIMMONDS?

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:28 pm EST

Hospo... it's one of those "he get's to pick a certain number of teams he wont accept a trade to" kind of clauses.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:27 pm EST

Peluso is just a goon, slower and plays fewer minutes than Glass on a bad team.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:27 pm EST

Per Creasy..... Habs and Flyers discussing a deal. McCarron + young Dman for Simmonds

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:25 pm EST

According to Katie Strang "Rangers and Mats Zuccarello have agreed to terms on a four-year deal worth $18 million. Partial trade protection included" Whtever partial trade protection means...Again, way to go ZUCC!

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:24 pm EST

if someone gets the opportunity and decides to take out Nash during the playoffs, Glass isn't going to stop them. No one is afraid to fight Glass, even if you lose badly if you've taken out Nash the damage is done. Glass isn't riding shotgun with Nash either, the way that McSorley could with Gretzky. Those days are over. NOW, if you cant roll four lines, then your top nine forwards are working harder to pick the slack. If that means it takes you 7 games instead of 5 to put away an opponent, thats when the probability of injury is increased. If anything, Glass makes you more susceptible to sustaining injury, not less.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:23 pm EST

Need a bit more edge. No idea who that guy is outside usual suspects. Peluso woulda been perfect. And no clear spot for him whoever it is. But AV should have all weapons he may need.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:21 pm EST

Yeah Glass was on that team. He had zero points in 20 games and averaged 7:28. And that was when he was four years younger.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:18 pm EST

when we have fought, its been more often other players, not Glass. This team stands up for each other.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:17 pm EST

Not really about the fights either. Once you get deep into the playoffs you're against teams that dont do the goonery, but overwhelm you with depth. You have Glass who is no goon but skates like cement, holds Moore down. We've won a lot of games this season without having to fight.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:16 pm EST

With ya on Glass RF. No great shakes but good soldier. One mord Kassian type we're set. But I damn sure wouldnt give Hagelin to do it!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:16 pm EST

Glass' playoff stats - (may need to scroll down). He was on the Vancouver team that went to the finals. http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/glassta01.html#stats_playoffs_nhl::none

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:14 pm EST

RF4L - As of now, GLASS still might be pretty important Ranger for the POs..THe Rangers really haven't been physically targetted all that much this year..A period or two here or there, that's it...In the PO's it might be an entire team's strategy for a SERIES...While the Rangers will almost always turn the other cheek in regards ti tic for tac, you gotta have a little protection for the likes of NASH, Step, MSL,, Hayes and now Yandle...All we have is Glass..really

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:13 pm EST

Sheppard vs Witt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KrYvTcsYTQ

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:12 pm EST

Sheppard vs Aulie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoX7qzSTQ4c

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:11 pm EST

Rhet: But this team needs someone who will drop the gloves/respond/etc. Too pansified as it is...

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:10 pm EST

Klein vs Sheppard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryDV-CzV7Tw

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:10 pm EST

RHET: if we can trust the last CapGeek figures at the trade deadline of $2,606,000 I believe we have more cap room.

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:09 pm EST

RF4L..... Look at his Analytics. He is probably the worst player in the NHL. He makes everyone else around him worse. Not just this season, look at his numbers for the last 3 seasons. It's very telling.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:09 pm EST

Klein.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:06 pm EST

Said it before, saying it again: Don't get the hatred on here for Glass. I get the frustration at times with his play, but he's in the lone Ranger who will step up when things are stupid. Does he do so enough? I'd say no. Does anyone else on the team? NO!

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:03 pm EST

Good riddance to Stempnicrap!!!

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:03 pm EST

(Cont.) If we miss the playoffs next season, we can slide it a year.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:58 pm EST

Not confident of the numbers I was using (outside of Yandl and Sheppard), but I have us as being approx. $86,000 under the cap.(actual) ....DREW.... The pick is Lottery protected. Confirmed by Katie Strang.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:40 pm EST

Wait - I thought the pick was protected?

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:39 pm EST

boyle is definitely lacking confidence, and probably experiencing declining motor skills....just hope he wakes up in the playoffs, with a lot of other nyr.......and that don Maloney's hope for the Cup for the nyr comes true......

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:36 pm EST

Keith Yandle on finding out he was coming to the #NYR "I was pumped!"

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:36 pm EST

Rangers Report ✔ @rangersreport Rangers officially announce Sheppard trade. Still waiting on Zuccarello contract extension. Might not happen tonight.

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:33 pm EST

Rich Nairn @RichNairn9 Coyotes Draft update: 2015 - 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks, 2 third round picks 2016 - 2 first round picks, 1 second round pick. Retweeted by Rangers Report Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 2h Kenny Albert ✔ @KennyAlbert Don Maloney: "I hope the Rangers win the Cup this year, then struggle next year because we have their first round pick." @NYRangers

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:32 pm EST

Excellent deal for the Rangers with the acquisition of Keith Yandle. Yes, NYR's gave up bit of the future but this team is built to win NOW. Let's forget about where Yandle is coming from other than the fact that he put up points on a shitty Arizona team for years. Let's talk about the team that Yandle is going to.......The NYR's are 3rd overall in the NHL for Goals For (average) per game.....and they are 4th overall in Goals against (average per game. They have the 11th best power play and the 10th best Penalty Kill. In Zona, Yandle was looked upon to being the best Dman on that team. Here in NY, Yandle joins a defensive corp with 3 blue chip players (McDonagh, Girardi, Staal) and 1 solid D-man (Klein).......Furthermore, Yandle will be playing in front of the best goalie in the world when healthy........So where i see this helping us take a huge leap is 1) the power play .....now Rangers have someone who is fuggin mobile on that blue line with a good shot......this will spread out the opponents penalty killers big time..........2) Rangers have a ton of speed up front so Yandle will spring the forwards with quality passes..........Regardless it will be fun to watch!

TradeStar28


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:31 pm EST

BOB/STEVIE/JFC - Defense needs to be attended to tomorrow IF POSSIBLE...You either have a horrendous defnsive pairing of the two "adventerous" players in Boyle and Yandle....or you spread the crapiness around with Staal-Boyle..Yandle-Klein..All comes down to replacing Boyle if possible .He just looks outmatched to me.....But, many talking heads seem to like the D, so what do I know? ..I'm also still a little quesy about the current 3rd line and MSL come PO time..

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:27 pm EST

Doesn't the signing of Yandle basically mean The Genius made a boo-boo by signing Boyle? Boyle was supposed to be the tonic for the PP. And what's Yandle's main strength....the PP. BTW, I know Yandle is no defensive stalwart and I know his +/- is awful but allot of his points come on the PP where he gets no + when his team scores.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:22 pm EST

Tomorrow,tomorrow, there's always tomorrow, it's only a day a-waaaay! Methinks The Genius will try to make another move or two. He's on a roll....he's feelin' it!

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:21 pm EST

by the way , sather did make the nyr stronger today for this year. but I'm not sure he added any real playoff experience.......where the separate the men from the boys.....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:17 pm EST

Lots of stuff for one day, huh? That McDavid-Duclair-Domi line will be pretty good for awhile, no? If they can resolve the Boyle dilemma, they should be good. Looks like Hayes at #3 center will be finalized for this year.

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:12 pm EST

Idk JFC. We'll have to come up with something special. Man, if only we landed Prluso from WPG today woulda been perfect. Real strong work by brass.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:00 pm EST

Sather was called a genius today on the nhl network. I don't remember who said it. I got that flash 2nd hand.... But that's how some see him.... Time to prove it....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:58 pm EST

3 more goals too.

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:57 pm EST

Yandle has 24 more assists (37) than Hunwick 8 & JMoore 5 combined....

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:43 pm EST

Yandle one of our youngest Ds. Hopefully can be re-signed long term, but if not he is worth a first-rounder+ to the right recipient at the right time next season.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:34 pm EST

186 Days in the season; 42 are remaining.

DOUBLEN


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:33 pm EST

about that. I thought just under 100K...but I don't know how many days are in the NHL year for cap purposes, and how many have gone past (I think 186 have gone past) so its hard to get an exact amount. But its probably about 100K....

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:31 pm EST

Wild: I reviewed the numbers, have the NY Rangers under the cap by approx $100K... what do you show?

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:27 pm EST

Rough Guesstimation but I have us at approx. $343,020 in cap space at the moment (may be a bit more, not sure it include $100,000 for Sheppard).

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:20 pm EST

mf: But you can't use season long cap hit for this years post trade. Handle does not cost the rangers a full season cap hit. Just what is left of the season. So their numbers are wrong when it comes to the Rangers and that means they are not over the cap.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:19 pm EST

Without knowing possible returns, Id much rather move Glass than Boyle at the moment.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:12 pm EST

Wild: their numbers make sense because they are all measured "from the same basis." They're using the seasonal cap hit, they are not prorating based upon the cap hit for the remainder of the season.. And they're certainly not mixing and matching to two..

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:11 pm EST

Can't the Rangers put Henrik retroactively on LTIR and gain some cap space?

Ranger47


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:10 pm EST

Boyle fits a few western teams and Detroit, but thats another big move and IMO we don't make it without getting a top pro RHS back. Sather is going for Cup and isn't going to mitigate our ability when he can also move Boyle in off season or after camp. Hopefully Boyle likes the midwest or the west coast bc those are the teams that would be in and he has the NTC.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:09 pm EST

There is a net 100K increase in cap hit with Stemp out and Shepperd in if I understand it correctly (give or take a bit of course) and after Yandle was added they had 255K still in room. SO they should bender (just barely) the cap.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:09 pm EST

So it's....Callahan, Moore, Duclair, and three No.1's and a 2 for Yandle, St.Louis and a 2. leaving out the fluff........or GM should be tar and feathered and hung from his balls........I have never seen a team trade No.1 picks 4 years in a row.....we will pay a huge price for this downroad...

jnyr


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:06 pm EST

Grew I dont think they are over the cap...

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:04 pm EST

My head is STILL spinning, Girardi being moved would have helped the cap space issue but I think he is an important member of this team and adding Yandle to this group is a plus. I know moving Boyle makes sense from a salary cap standpoint but what team does he fit, at the moment? I would be shocked if the Rangers moved Hagelin. I don't understand the rules. How are the Rangers allowed to be over the cap mid season? I did a (REAL QUICK) google search - I didn't know you can be over the cap. Do they need to be under by the time they submit their roster for tomorrow night or something similar? Another scary thought (which wouldn't make sense with the current trades), was that a player with a very large cap hit is going to IR?

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:56 pm EST

According to NHLnumber.com Yandle will be 1.185 mil against the Rangers cap. They still have Stemp on the roster not hat site....so just 1 of the 3 trades so far have been updated. And with just the Yandle trade they have the cap space as 255K. Step will be removed (at least the remaining cap hit) and Shepherd will be added (the remaining cap hit) eventually and I am interested in seeing what NHLnumbers has to say after that.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:53 pm EST

mf: HB also has Yandle at 2.6+, he will not count that much against the rangers cap this year. Their cap central thing it a mess, doesn't quite fit the reality of the cap situation.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:53 pm EST

Seth Rothman ‏@RothmanHockey..... #Rangers are not holding a morning skate tomorrow. AV speaks at 5, so we'll get no answers about lineups until at least 5.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:52 pm EST

Been a very fun, exciting day on The Wall, that's for sure...great stuff.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:51 pm EST

MF - Bingo....

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:50 pm EST

Last post to mf

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:50 pm EST

Or the Hag is gonna get bagged....Hope your quip is the correct one

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:49 pm EST

And I thought today was going to be quiet

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:45 pm EST

I went down, to the Chelsea drugstore... to get your.... prescription filled......

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:43 pm EST

Klingberg an RFA and we have several pending RFAs in Hartford. Probably won't qualify all of them, but with his relative speed for size and RHS I'd be surprised if he weren't in the mix. I think Fast has 4RW locked down next season though.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:43 pm EST

Cap Room: HockeyBuzz has us at $3,425,000 over the cap however SKAPSKI ($663,333) and Klinghoffer ($650K) are included in their figures... Sending both down brings us to $2,081,700 over the cap..... Trading TGlass alone still doesn't get us in compliance... The Tea-leaves say " the Boil is getting squeezed! "

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:42 pm EST

NHL Trade Rumors ‏@NHLTradeRumors...... Arizona Coyotes confirm Boedker, Hanzal out for season

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:39 pm EST

And let's not forget the recent frequent invisibility of MSL, which is another reason I wanted a 2nd/3rd liner rather than a 3rd/4th liner....But...Hopefully...You ..can't ....always ..get what you..want ....You get what you need!

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:36 pm EST

JFC - Still is to me, as is the 3rd line com PO time, but though we didn't get a FO stud, we at least got somebody that is 50%..And I also think if somehow because of injury or whatever and Hayes moves up or to W, MOORE would likely be the 3rd line C ahead of SHeppherd..JMWO

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:34 pm EST

I am happy with getting Sheppard for FO help.

RinkRat


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:33 pm EST

JMO... Klinkberg will be a RFA after this season so I really don't expect us to match. The Jets reportedly weren't planning to match either. This was just a salary dump.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:33 pm EST

FWIW: "TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button says the addition of Keith Yandle gives the Rangers the best defence corps in the NHL and says they should be favourites in the East."

Nick


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:28 pm EST

Is our lousy FO % no longer a concern on The Wall?

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:27 pm EST

RR -- what's my prize for guessing The Godfather reference? ;^)

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:27 pm EST

Hockeyy Insiderr ‏@HockeyyInsiderr...... Being told after #NYR improved a lot today #Habs amd #Bruins GMs are willing to increase bids on some of the remaining players.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:27 pm EST

Geezus Wild: 1/2 of 1/3rd = 1/6th or 16.667%

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:25 pm EST

Sheppard / Moore / Lindberg as our 4th line? Let Fast be our 13th forward...

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:25 pm EST

Mess: HB is using what would be the FULL season cap hit and adding them all together. But Yandle is 1/2 of about 1/3 of his full year cap hit, not the 2.6 or so they are adding to the Rangers cap number.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:23 pm EST

HOSPO: And Lindberg can be called up to fill in at C as well. Like you said, lots of flexibility. Always good in the post season.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:23 pm EST

Wild: The Coyotes are also retaining 50 percent of Yandle's salary in the deal. (Hence, their eating 50% of his cap hit too.) http://espn.go.com/new-york/nhl/story/_/id/12404674/arizona-coyotes-trade-keith-yandle-new-york-rangers

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:21 pm EST

WILD - Every little bit help...Rangers have alot of flexibility and versatility on their bottom two lines right now..All of Moore, Hayes, Miller and Shepherd can play W and C...Very good for injuries, slumps, mathcups, etc..

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:20 pm EST

The 26-year-old veteran center is only making a little over a million and would be a terrific fit or any team looking for a complementary third liner or a terrific fourth liner. With the Sharks this year Sheppard has simply been asked to do to much. San Jose has played him frequently as their third line center mostly with similar level players. Unfortunately Sheppard simply doesn’t produce enough to lead a third line. He has however shown to be dynamite when playing with Andrew Desjardins on a fourth line and he’s been terrific as a third line winger next to Joe Pavelski. Sheppard’s finishing ability is rather underwhelming but he has above average speed and size (6’1″ 215) and is solid along the boards. For those who haven’t seen him play much, he’s sort of a younger version of Daniel Winnik. He is incredibly versatile, can play center or wing on either the third or fourth lines or a second line in an absolute pinch as the weaker player on a top-6 line..... http://thehockeywriters.com/james-sheppards-days-as-a-shark-may-be-numbered/

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:15 pm EST

Sharks retained 100K

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:13 pm EST

Tnx Drew. Glad we didnt sign that lump. That was funny jfc. Was reading your question and thought, look down lol. For some inexplicable reason I love when a gm or ciach remembers a guy and he gets a chance. Weve had success with a few I think. Maybe Puliot....idk.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:13 pm EST

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/james_sheppard/

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:12 pm EST

Im guessing HB numbers failing to take something into consideration. We had a little cap space going into today. Arizona and SJ both retained money on Yandle, Sheppard. We cleared about 1.7 by moving Stemp and Moore. Summers and Klingberg were both in the AHL so shouldnt count against our cap unless we recalled them. Not sure how that puts us over by >3million.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:12 pm EST

mf -- maybe that's why Hags rumor is out there.....

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:10 pm EST

mf: They are using 2.6mil as the cap hit for Yandle. That is NOT his cap hit for this season. Its not even close.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:10 pm EST

I would claim mcginnn -he can go down if doesn't work out he's a Rfa next year and 600k this yr good size and still just 24

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:09 pm EST

Is Sheppard meaningfully faster than Glass? Could Sheppard/Moore/Fast allow AV to roll 4 again

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:07 pm EST

HockeyBuzz is showing the NY Rangers over the Cap by $3,425,000.... Ship KLINK to Hartford (-$650K) brings us down to -$2,775,000 over the cap.... Trading Glass doesn't get us in compliance. Trading Boyle does, but creates a hole on the RS Defense... The numbers say that that is exactly what Sather is going to do...... SO, if we're -$2,775,000 over the cap, trade Boyle +$4,500,000 puts us under the cap by $1,725,000 to find another RHS Defenseman... Unload TGlass & you can add $1,450,000 for a Total of $3,175,000 for that RHS Defenseman..... (POLAK makes $2,750,000 so he'd fit)

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:07 pm EST

I guess we always could buy out Glass for cap room if we cant trade him, right?

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:07 pm EST

Last post to Rhet

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:07 pm EST

Rabid - I think it was Dustin Penner as a guest analyst.

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:07 pm EST

They -- LOL! Thanks FO answering my question so,quickly....even before I asked it!

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:06 pm EST

Wonder if anyone on the coaching staff has any connection to Sheppard that helped make the trade happen

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:04 pm EST

Jim Matheson ‏@NHLbyMatty...... Re NYR getting Sheppard. Risebrough works for NYR now. Was Minny GM when they drafted Sheppard in round one in 2006

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:04 pm EST

Duclair was shocked? He shoula logged on. I had him traded months ago! Bwaha lol. And what nhl analyst is makin rape jokes? Idiot. Cant see from here..

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:03 pm EST

Trading Hagelin would be a very risky proposition IMO....there's such a thing as doing too much, too. Rangers are loading up and the moves they made make sense based on what they NEEDED to get better. Trading Hagelin is going off that grid IMO and threatens to be too disruptive and to "overhaul" looking

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:01 pm EST

Lebrun reported that. Unless he's just a rental, have to think he'd want a raise on the 1.3 million next season.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:00 pm EST

I don't want him but if you want a nasty Carcillo type, Tye McGinn on waivers today.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:58 pm EST

According to someone, can't remember who, on twitter, said that the Sharks are retaining salary on Sheppard, makes that trade all the better.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:57 pm EST

Im penciling in Sheppard as 4LW and Glass as spare, with Fast coming back from injury.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:57 pm EST

93! Nedved! Theyre not trading Carl Hagelin unless it is a major effin haul.be very surprised. But shit happens.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:55 pm EST

Don't see why they'd move Hagelin unless they think they're getting a better return. Worst case scenario they can QO him next season and trade him then. Moving him needlessly tomorrow over contract dispute deprives us offensive threat in POs

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:54 pm EST

Said Boyler came to mind. Sheppard sounds like hes potentially a poor mans version. I can dig it. But I need to dig the driveway instead...

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:54 pm EST

According to the Rangers official site, Yandle is going to wear #93. How many Stanley Cup teams had defenseman wear numbers in the 90s?

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:53 pm EST

Sheppard impending UFA, 1.3 mill cap hit.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:52 pm EST

NHL Rumors ‏@NHLRumorsDaily....... Quietly hearing NYR could. I say could, trade Hagelin by tomorrow. Chances are 30-70 he stays, however if THE offer comes...

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:50 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2015/03/01/nhl-playeranalyst-pulled-from-tv-for-twitter-rape-joke/

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:49 pm EST

A round of applause for a job well done! Even if you dont like trades, they spared us hitting reload next 19hrs.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:48 pm EST

I hope were done period. Letestu and not moving Glass probably takes Miller and Fast out of the lineup. Thats a mistake IMO. Hayes is looking good, Miller and Fast making important contributions. Lets not derail the train.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:48 pm EST

Shepard is guy I was watching as possible play for the C slot- he plays physical and is solid in the dot looks bigger than 6-1 not super fast but keeps up and can play wing too like the move obvious they couldn't flip a contract for him so another pick out the door but this is the year anyway . Cigar cowboy looking to take the day off Monday , would love to get Polak - just killed Johansen illegally but still;)

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:48 pm EST

Physical 3rd Paid D-man tomorrow? More tinkering up front? Done? We'll see tomorrow

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:45 pm EST

NHL Rumors ‏@NHLRumorsDaily..... NYR done for tonight

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:44 pm EST

JFC - Exactly..multiple positions. decent size...little O..little D...WOuld have rathert had a VERMETTE type, but SATHER wnet offensive D first,,,SO this is good support

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:43 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun..... Prospects going to Dallas in Cole deal: Mattias Backman and Mattas Janmark.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:43 pm EST

Aussie BlueShirt ‏@AussieBlueShirt..... * NY RANGERS NEWS * Anthony Duclair was in shock about being traded http://bit.ly/1Cfv7wK #NYR #Rangers #NHL

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:42 pm EST

I wouldn't call 215 lbs. average....and it's how he uses the 215 that counts

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:41 pm EST

Youll wanba pull that one back like Zuc Hospo. Yandle is going yovtransform a good part of our game. No one could keep up with us yesterday. Front office put in a days work. If im not mistaken Shepard is who I kept mistaking(from afar) for Thorton at the dot last we played SJ. Hes only 6-1? Gotta see what # he wore...

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:41 pm EST

Oh, and good call on Shepard, Hospo!

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:40 pm EST

Shep to replace Glass or a waste imo.

stepunmytoe


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:39 pm EST

I call 6' 1" 215 average. Shepard isn't a third liner on our team. And 50% on FO is okay, not good. Last season he was 45%.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:38 pm EST

DOUBLEN - Exactly..267-267 this year..Pretty ..good..also a hedge against injury..can play anywhere on 3rd-4th lines

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:38 pm EST

NHL Rumors ‏@NHLRumorsDaily...... Sheppard to NYR. Slats not done #Letestu

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:38 pm EST

Hospo -- there's that versatility that we've been talking about....gives AV the ability to,tinker with bottom 6 until he finds right combos. Wondering if Hayes slides to wing at this,point

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:37 pm EST

Sheppard 50% on Face offs which would make him 2nd on the Rangers after Moore.

DOUBLEN


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:36 pm EST

Hes C/LW. Fine if thats who they like. Insurance at worst. Hope Lindberg get a shot at it too.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:36 pm EST

With Sheppard, need to flip Glass.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:35 pm EST

Steep price for Cole...... "Also per @FriedgeHNIC, the #RedWings have acquired Erik Cole from the #Stars for two prospects and a second round draft pick"

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:35 pm EST

SHEPERD a good pickup for Rangers..Big body 6'1" 215...versatile 3rd/4th liner..plays both C and W.....Good on FO...Like this better than Yandle!

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:34 pm EST

sorry guys - saw you had that below, I beg your pardons!

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:34 pm EST

Don't like this move. But Sheppard's 93 hits if fourth among our forwards, after Glass, Kreider and Zucc. But FAST has 75 in a little over half the games.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:33 pm EST

Another move coming..... Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun..... hear the Sharks have retained some salary on Sheppard in that trade with Rangers

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:33 pm EST

Shepard is,listed as a LW but I thought he was a center

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:33 pm EST

TSN Trade Show just announced James Sheppard to the Rangers

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:32 pm EST

The Rangers sent their 4th rounder, not the one acquires from AZ.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:32 pm EST

Where's the rest of that trade, like Boyle back to SJ?

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:31 pm EST

Cole went to Detroit Glass is still here..

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:30 pm EST

Bingo J; Bingo Hospo. Whats this stiff gonna do for us? Not much in way of numbers. He the FO guy? Listed as wing..... whatever.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:30 pm EST

Kukla's Korner ‏@kuklaskorner..... -THE MALIK REPORT: Erik Cole On His Way To Detroit: Erik Cole traded to Detroit, pending trade call —… http://dlvr.it/8nd2Gy @georgemalik

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:29 pm EST

Guess the SHARK beat writer I quoted knew what he was talking about--SHEPHERD to RANGERS

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:29 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC.... Sheppard to NYR is fora 4th in 2016

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:29 pm EST

Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak..... #BREAKING - E. Cole pulled from line up, trade is imminent. Bruins, Rangers interested.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:28 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC Hearing Erik Cole pulled from DAL lineup

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:27 pm EST

James Shepherd to NYR

evets1980


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:27 pm EST

Per TSN New York Rangers to acquire James Sheppard from Sharks #NYR

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:26 pm EST

Rabid: Right with you on Peluso. He would fit nicely on the 4th line. He's a mean SOB

RDW


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:24 pm EST

RR -- Senator Geary to Michael Corleone :^)

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:23 pm EST

Hospo -- yep, The Hobbit has moved up another notch on my admiration list. So nice to see an athlete who walks the walk, unlike other players who say crap about it not being about the money (like a certain former Rangers captain who threatened that he wouldn't attend the banner raising) when that's all it is about. I posted this morning that I thought a no trade clause might be the compromise that helps get the deal done...and even that is an indicator that it was about staying a NY Ranger for Zucc, not just the money. He could have gotten 5.5 mil easily if he wanted to,leave.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:22 pm EST

He's a Tea drinker?

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:22 pm EST

Guy I liked from WPG was Peluso. Wish they grabbed him over Klingman.;) "Although my sources tell me youre prepared to move Klingman out"... valuableprizes anyone gueses that one...

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:18 pm EST

Well deserved for ZUCC..what a classy teamate..tip my hat to him...and I used not like the Nowegean pip squeak!

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:17 pm EST

Our current Cap #'s dictate that Sather is not finished...

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:17 pm EST

Jeez, my head is spinning! Apparently another deal is coming? In addition to Yandle and Klingburg?

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:15 pm EST

Yrs Mess. Any douche will do. Bigger & meaner the better.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:12 pm EST

Zucc get's a modified NTC. Good for him. (and us :)

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:12 pm EST

emphasis on the "like" Burrows, right? He has 5 million cap hit, isn't UFA, and Canucks very much in playoff position. Was playing top line recently.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:12 pm EST

The New York #NYRangers have officially re-signed Mats Zuccarello to a 4 year contract worth $18M or $4.5M AAV

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:09 pm EST

Maybe Hospo. Zippay said they were looking at him.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:07 pm EST

Wild: You're basing the Cap hit on the ""remainder"" of the season, and I am basing the Cap hit based upon the ""entire season."" I think it's a lot simpler/easier my way of looking at it...

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:07 pm EST

Wouldnt stun me they grab a Carcillo type, maybe a douche like Burrows. If that spot they cleared is for Lindberg (for FOs) wed be about set.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:05 pm EST

not to mention our excellent record as of late with 3rd rounders

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:05 pm EST

Shark Beat writer.."Hearing that James Sheppard may be the first #SJShark heading out at the trade deadline. No details where or return" Not an unrealistic target for the Rangers if they want another forward

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:03 pm EST

MF - Can DRESS only 20 (2 goalies) but allowed as many aas you want up (i.e., no Cap implications)

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:03 pm EST

mf: IF your using 2+ mil for the cap hit on Yandle its incorrect. His hit for the Rangers will be like 875K the rest of the season. But Im not sure what numbers you are using.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:02 pm EST

1h Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord That said, the free-agent signing of former Blackhawks' first rounder Kevin Hayes makes up for some of that. 1h Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord Rangers did not have a first round pick in 2013 (Nash) or in 2014 (St. Louis). Don't have one this year (MSL) or in 2016 (Yandle).

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:02 pm EST

Summers also starts in AHL. He, Klingberg won't be until rosters are expanded for POs

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:01 pm EST

Nobody is "farming out" BOYLE. Fantasy.

THE Kreider


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:01 pm EST

Howie Wirtheim @HWirth @rangersreport For those that freak out over draft picks. Klingberg a high 2nd (34th) in 09 and has played a grand total of 12 NHL games.

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:00 pm EST

Stempniak to WPG for Carl Klingberg

Gibbo


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:00 pm EST

RHET:Understood.... Can a team dress more than 20 players in the Play-Offs so long as they're under the Cap ?

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:59 pm EST

MF... He's not up in the NHL so he doesn't need to be sent down. He transfers from their AHL team to Hartford. They need to correct it.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:57 pm EST

RHET: It's ok, he hasn't been sent down yet.... We're currently at - $2,125,000... Send KLINK to Hartford & we're at -$1,475,000.... Trade T.Glass & we're at -$25,000.... We're good & close.... Man O Man if Big McIlrath is ready for the callup, we could farm out Boyle & shop for one more forward.

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:55 pm EST

RABID - I hear ya, instead we'll probably have to play agasint him!

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:52 pm EST

Boyle move likely to come after camp next season or by 2016 trade deadline. Aren't likely to get a comparable defender back for this year's playoffs, no need to clear space today for Stepan or Hags both are protected. Unless getting another RHS D in a separate deal I don't see it happening.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:52 pm EST

Know who Id really luv to add to this team right now? Brian Boyle. Oh well, moving on!!!!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:52 pm EST

MF.... The need to fix that. Klink is in the AHL, the NYR aren't calling him up to eat the cap.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:52 pm EST

Who else is SATHER bringing in?

THE Kreider


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:52 pm EST

Nick - Not totally disagreeing,Like our offensive positives but still feel we are short defesnively/one Forward....Keeping my fingers crossed

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:51 pm EST

NHL Rumors ‏@NHLRumorsDaily..... What I meant was, NYR still in on Letestu, but there's another deal in the works. Not done yet

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:50 pm EST

HockeyBuzz is doing a good job keeping up with the transactions... NY Rangers with KLINK in, and STEMPNIAK out.: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=NYR

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:49 pm EST

Jets fans are happy & saying that klingberg did clear waivers earlier this year not sure it's true - need at least two more moves Boyle out faceoff guy and at least one another big body

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:48 pm EST

True Hospo but sometimes you can skate out of trouble, and on the O, can force some plays and mistakes. I like our team speed as long as we have some guys who engage.

Nick


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:48 pm EST

NHL Rumors‏@NHLRumorsDaily.... "Slats not done. Stemp was to clear cap".....Not Letestu... Or better off saying, not JUST Letestu

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:46 pm EST

Can a team dress more than 20 players in the Play-Offs so long as they're under the Cap ?

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:46 pm EST

Stempniak probably would have been claimed on waivers. good playoff depth. Klingberg not only clears salary but gives us middling, older prospect. Have to think he gets QO. Maybe first line AHL next season, could pop up.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:45 pm EST

MFred: AZ IS eating salary. Yankles Cap hit is $2,625,000..... You got some reading to catch up on... Better take the laptop to the LOOOOO

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:44 pm EST

RHET - Let's hope so..it's needed

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:43 pm EST

Nick - game slows down in the POs..Much more clutching and grabbing allowed..need players to play that game also

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:43 pm EST

"@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Rangers may not be done. Could be a third move either tonight or tomorrow"

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:43 pm EST

Yes he is MF. Plays LW too. Transition, thats where Yandle will jump out. Cant have father time PP lugging. And hes as 4th forward whenever hes out there. Plus, McD gets to rest during PPs. At least first unit.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:42 pm EST

ARI ate 50% this season and next.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:42 pm EST

Fred, they ate 50% of his cap hit/ salary..

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:41 pm EST

Love the trade for a top D man....and hopefully Zuck gets done. Question.....I didn't hear that the Yotes ate any salary so how screwed are we on the cap? And I'm hoping first round picks are overrated.

MelvilleFred


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:40 pm EST

I like that when we acquire, it's always someone fast. That's the team's trademark these days.

Nick


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:39 pm EST

Yandle scouting report: "Has explosive skating ability, superior offensive instincts, great puckhandling skills and a lethal one-timer. Is very adept at playing the point on the power play." Also can be pressured off puck, makes some bad decisions. On Stempniak for Klingberg, we get bigger & younger there. Of course Stemp coukld score 10-12 and who knows about the Klinger? Hockey's Future says he is blocked by other Jets prospects and: "Klingberg's work ethic and his top notch skating skills are the strength of his game. He uses his significant size well and accelerates quickly. His technical skills and hockey sense are slightly above average, at best, but he loves driving to the net and creates a lof of scoring chances simply by using his quick feet. His biggest challenge will be to develop the patience and ability to recognize scoring opportunities more consistently. Klingberg's intensity is especially apparent on the forecheck and his aggressivenss in all three zones make him a difficult player to play against. He has good timing in his hits and rarely puts himself out of the play despite his physical style of play."

Nick


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:39 pm EST

cool...if down, until we finally decide we need a forward sub(Lindberger??)!!//Glass-Moore-Fast as the 4th line? Not buying into that Slats

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:38 pm EST

That saves us $900K and Klingberg doesn't have to clear waivers like Stemp would have if we sent him down. He'll report to Harford. We will also have the cap room now to bring up Lindberg. Pending another trade: )

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:38 pm EST

KLINK is also a RHS, big body

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:37 pm EST

Klingberg doesn't require waivers. If Fast isn't ready for tomorrow, Id give him a game with Moore and Glass. If Glass is still here.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:36 pm EST

Well at least Klinger is big young y was sent down today when wheeler was activated

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:36 pm EST

saves us 250k if Klingberg up with Rangers. 900k if down in Hartford.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:36 pm EST

Stemper! Hope yourw right Rhet. 12gp, thats a roster-clearer right there.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:35 pm EST

Klingberg is 24, 6' 3" RW

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:34 pm EST

STEMP and Klink a wash cap wise?

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:33 pm EST

Wild: This Years current Cap Figures... Yankle carries a cap hit of $2,625,000 million because AZ is eating salary.... http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=NYR

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:32 pm EST

Klingberg is RFA, cap hit 650k.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:32 pm EST

Carl (The Colonel Klink) Klingberg: ... http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?7669

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:32 pm EST

REALLY miss capgeek.com...

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:31 pm EST

mf: What cap, this years? Not sure how you came to those numbers. What cap hit did you use for Yandle?

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:31 pm EST

Someone forget to tell Glen trade deadline is tomorrow...nuts!

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:30 pm EST

Sather in full force

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:30 pm EST

Think Zuc is about the happiest guy in the world right now. Took his 1-yr deal to help us out and EARNED a nice contract.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:30 pm EST

NM. Forgot we needed a spot for Fast.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:30 pm EST

20 1/2 hours to fix the cap and add a faceoff guy.....bazookerella is a true blue nyr......nice home team discount.......

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:29 pm EST

AWESOME

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:29 pm EST

Trade Glass for a glass of white zin...

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:29 pm EST

We just made a spot for Lindberg, IMO.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:28 pm EST

Do NYR see more value / love for Glass than Stemp? WTF? Glass has been almost invisible.

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:28 pm EST

RR... We're still to this day discussing the '94 youth for vet trades that won us the cup. What did you expect?

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:28 pm EST

Stempniak to Jets for Carl Klingberg

evets1980


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:28 pm EST

STEMPNIAK GONE.

THE Kreider


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:27 pm EST

Mess11: Yes it is... and, moving Glass ($1.45mill) and Stempniak ($900K) or $2,350,000 leaves us $25,000 over the cap....

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:27 pm EST

Summers was probably about contract number, but now that he's here, silly not to let him compete against Hunwick, who probably also could belong in AHL if not #7. Who, if not Hunwick or Summers? Allen costs almost 3x Summers. Bodie costs almost 2x Summers in cap room.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:26 pm EST

We just saw. Duke was unlikely to help this team this year. But the team needed help this year, now. If people cant see that simple distinction they dont know what theyre saying.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:26 pm EST

Hospo.... Sorry, the first part of my post was explaining my prior post. We needed to take back another contract. so we took their cheapest contract available, You never know though, he could become our new number 8 :)

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:26 pm EST

Damn, Zucc, what a teamate you are! He could get more on the open market..The Boys better show him some love..I got an idea, step in for him now and then we he takes the physcoial stuff into his own hands!

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:24 pm EST

mf- is that including Moore subtraction?

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:23 pm EST

RHET - If that's why we're picking up a player, says alot about out talent evaluation...The guys is a chump..belongs in the AHL where he usually is even for a team as bad as AZ

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:21 pm EST

Yahoo commenters, identifying as NYR fans: Deal is "insane" ... "asinine" ... "Sather should be hung by his balls ..." Tough crowd. Lots of Duke fans, citing the "overrated" Zuccarello. I guess we'll see.

Nick


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:21 pm EST

Pat Leonard..... #NYR, Zuccarello have agreed to base of 4-year, $18 million deal; discussion on no-trade/protection all that remains http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/rangers/rangers-mats-zuccarello-close-contract-extension-article-1.2133741?cid=bitly&utm_content=bufferfd062&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDNSports+Twitter …

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:17 pm EST

People were asking, why Summers? .....Per Jim Cerny‏@JimCerny..... Defenseman Chris Summers, who was also acquired by #NYR, was teammate of @CarlHagelin at University of Michigan

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:17 pm EST

Rangers Current Cap Situation: -$2,375,000... Yankle's Cap Hit is $2,625,000 mill ...... http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=NYR

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:16 pm EST

RE: Polak: That's a heck of an endorsement.. Exactly what we need for the Playoffs... Klein has an offensive side to his game, picks his spots well on when to pinch....

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:15 pm EST

Hopefully Yandle here in time for Nashville game.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:13 pm EST

I could see Summers being a number 7. His contract is very low and was drafted high, has some NHL experience. His only competition right now is Hunwick

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:12 pm EST

BTW, Summers was purely for the contracts to even out.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:10 pm EST

Polak is a huge hitter, dangerous fighter when he's angry enough to fight. You replace Boyle with Polak though and suddenly the other team stops watching our right point for shots. Is that enough for Klein, Girardi? maybe.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:09 pm EST

New York Rangers ✔ @NYRangers #NYR acquired Keith Yandle, Chris Summers, & 4th rd pick in '16 from ARI for J. Moore, A. Duclair, a 2nd rd pick in '15 & a cond 1st in '16

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:09 pm EST

Katie Strang‏@KatieStrangESPN.... Trade call for Yandle deal has been completed. Team announcing as official right now

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:08 pm EST

Leetch wasn't bad defensively. Sometimes he got caught pinching, but he was also assigned to cover Jagr at times and was great at doing it.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:07 pm EST

for this season's playoffs, team isn't better by just subtracting Boyle and calling up McIlrath. Maybe better time is postseason. Also keeps pressure on our RFAs. Now if we're flipping Boyle and using that space for a F upgrade, thats another story. Still think we should re-sign Hags sooner than later. Want him buzzing with energy going into POs

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:05 pm EST

RHET - Don't agree at all on Zubov being a D-liability..Guy had a great stick and played his position quite well,..Leetch was very inconsistent...Yandle not even close (in a good way) and Boyle looks overmatched and spent now....But I agree, that a 3rd Pair Physical D-man would go a long way in helping

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:03 pm EST

Don't see how Allen or Bodie have a shot to make this team anymore. Their contracts also pretty prohibitive to carry as #7s. Skjei is young enough that he isn't as affected.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:02 pm EST

Yandle is 28. If we can re-sign him, it is still a huge add. If it looks like we cant re-sign him, we can still flip him next season for at least those picks back.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:00 pm EST

As for BOYLE, I'll be honest, last night it looked like he spent more time playing wing than D..

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:59 pm EST

Hospo.... Leetch and Zubov were also defensive liabilities (I'm not implying that he's in their class). If we deal Boyle and get back a solid 3rd pair defender and a pick, I'd be happy.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:59 pm EST

Katie Strang ✔ @KatieStrangESPN The 2016 first-round pick NYR sent to ARI is lottery-protected, so if the team misses the playoffs they can elect to slide it a year

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:58 pm EST

Duke is a better sniper than Haggerty now. He will be much better than Haggerty in a couple years.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:57 pm EST

I really liked DUCLAIR..Had alot to learn defensively, but thought he was a natural offesnively and also very smart..THink he has a huge future in front of him...Still, you gotta give to get, I'm just not sure we got the right "get"

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:57 pm EST

Yikes, when it was originally Girardi thought to be in the deal, that made a lot more sense. Judging by the reaction to this trade, if a cup is not won this year, it looks like we are going to have a set back. Unless Sather recoups picks with more trades. Rabid / Yorkie - is Sather and the front office done? Yorkie - what are your thoughts on this trade. The feeling I get is that this trade was a mistake.

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:57 pm EST

Rangers Report ✔ @rangersreport Wondering if Sather's got one more move left, up front. Bet he's trying.

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:57 pm EST

I'm a youth guy but Yandle at 28 is a decent acquire. This squad isn't going to be much closer to the Cup than they have been since 2012, so might as well deal off the Duke and try to be the last club of 30 standing. No first rounders doesn't bother me as Sather would pick some stiff anyway; he pretty much always does.

Nick


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:57 pm EST

Adam Herman ‏@AdamHerman_BSB 26m26 minutes ago Three very important graphs for anyone who thinks Dan Boyle is the problem on the right side. pic.twitter.com/8IsQwSN4YX

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:56 pm EST

My 6 year old son is thrilled that Girardi is still on the team...he doesn't understand about salary caps...he just loves the dude. I'm thrilled for him and I think Girardi is a hard nosed, gutsy, good for the locker room player. I like him and I'm glad he's still on the team. I want a Cup but I also like when we have good guys on the team...call me an ass but when I saw the Rangers win the cup in 94 it didnt' change my life...rooting for a bunch of good guys always makes me feel better. Have a good night guys...

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:56 pm EST

anyone notice how cryer Claude and other cryers win their faceoffs? ...they skate forward into their opponent soon as the puck is dropped.....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:55 pm EST

CHIN - You know, I was hoping the Rangers would get stronger, more balnced, and tighter defensively at the deadline...So far, we're going in the opposite direction...Still a day left....We'll see

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:55 pm EST

WIOSA..........I hear you, loud and clear.

Newfie_Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:53 pm EST

Yes, yes, Duclair showed some flair. But there are also problems with his game. Im not at all sure HAGGERTY isnt a better sniper. Still got Buchnevich and right now, no clear path for rither to play next year.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:53 pm EST

how does Maloney eating salary hit the nyr cap story....?....that's probably why sather was willing to give up so much.....he's in cap hell.......still waiting for 1 good faceoff forward if it's remotely possible.......might as well be greedy......double down glennie......go for all the marbles, before many nyr fans lose theirs'.......

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:52 pm EST

CHIN - Liking it less and less the more I think about it..Yandle is highlight reel stuff..Both his offense and his spectacular give-aways..

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:50 pm EST

Oh yeah, and didn't we give away yet another draft pick? yech.

WIOSA


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:49 pm EST

Newfie, I am. I was really impressed with Duclair..not only his skill,..but his maturity level. Not to mention we still have a serious FO problem. Oh well, we did need help on the blue line, I just didn't want to give up a young dynamic player for it. I like this team but I really didn't think we were one player away from the cup...ya know? sigh...

WIOSA


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:48 pm EST

HOSPO: I'm with you. I love going for it, but I'm not sure that Yandle is the type of guy you mortgage some of the future for. We shall see.

chinstrap


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:46 pm EST

IMO, three things really HELP you win the Cup...1. goaltending 2. faceoffs and 3. powerplay... Rangers just got better on the powerplay and now need another C who can win draws...

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:45 pm EST

Patrick Berglund for our 3rd/4th http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?5665

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:45 pm EST

This is really long, but you can search his name and skip to the Yandle parts. Very interesting read on why he wasn't on Team USA. The one positive is that his biggest supporter was Kings GM Dean Lombardi, and I'll take the opinion of the guy who built that Kings team over most of the others. Still, the fear about his risk taking and defensive play is something to monitor. http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=10195703&src=desktop

chinstrap


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:45 pm EST

Shaggy....if we win the Cup,I'll shut up and be happy about this deal.But I got a funny fealing we just gave up on a Special kid ! .......................jkropp.......you really think we got another Zubov in Yandle ? You do remember that Zubov was the scoring leader on that very ,very talented team .And one of the best PP d-man in recent history. Is Yandle THAT ? Boy, I hope so.............

Newfie_Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:44 pm EST

Duke is a sniper with the signs of a finisher.. Need guys that can bury the biscuit & finish..

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:42 pm EST

Damn if that deal doesn't beat all...LOVE the balls and Go for it NOW style, but not sure I like the return at all....For that huge price you better be coming close to completing your team....YANDLE is a sieve (that makes TWO SIEVES with BOYLE) defensively and in the POs may hurt as much as help with his weak defensive Play...Will his offense and PP abilities make up for it. in the POs???.I have my doubts....Still think the team needs a 3rd/4th line forward with FO and a 6th D-man but seem have totally shot their wad tradewise

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:42 pm EST

Newf -- I'm not happy to,see Duclair go...was my favorite rookie and I think showed dynamic talent package. But, I also,want the Rangers to go,forvthenCup every year for the next 3-4 minimum. Imthink Duke could,have developed into an essential Cup,piece in 2-3 years...don't think we can afford to,wait that long. We have to win a Cup,while we have one of the best goalies in the world in his prime....we have another 3 years IMO. My hope is that Buchnevich is,the reason AV and Sather felt comfortable losing Duke....they think Buch is the real deal and made Duke expendable

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:41 pm EST

I also think that Hayes is going to be better than Duke in the future...that's my unprofessional opinion but kid has size and talent.

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:38 pm EST

RDW: Depends on the situation.

stepunmytoe


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:38 pm EST

Im also beyond THRILLED to still have Lindberg in the fold. He's going to fit like a glove with this group IF they hold onto him. But to those I kiddingly (sometimes) call asset managers, this was IT. The one big youth outlay they HAD to make. The picks are no big deal. Shaggy shows that. I worry about the future too but its very secure. Zuc resigned and Yandle only 29, no one is goin as anywhere. This is the team, and its a helluva team. Yandle affects things no one is even thinking about. Get a tough FO guy here & lets go.they dont need much more. And Lindberg is a better player than Duclair imo. Different types & positions naturally. But better.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:36 pm EST

B ‏@JB_HockeyTalk..... Zuccarello signing is imminent.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:35 pm EST

Mess... I didn't mention Fast. Have to disagree with you on Hayes, he has higher potential that bottom six, Maybe Miller does too. Rookies don't usually break in on the top six was the point. We don't have many opportunities open right now. Maybe a slot for Buch next season, maybe not.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:34 pm EST

Big Mac needs to quit fighting goons. Not sure how spending all of that time in the box is going to help his career....

RDW


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:33 pm EST

John ShannON‏@JSportsnet..... Zuccarello deal not yet finalized. When its done, sounds like 4 Years...4.5 Million per season.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:31 pm EST

Rhet- I didn't see Duke as competing with Miler Fast or Hayes. Right now those three are slated for bottom six. We will be moving on from MSL someday. I dot believe its next season but could very well be season after that one. MZA and Hags ready to step up that creates a couple holes on 2nd and 3rd line wings.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:31 pm EST

RF & Step: Funny you bring that up about Mcilrath, my dad and brother were at the game last night and took a video of his fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hed_RSNAXU&feature=youtu.be

professa


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:29 pm EST

RF: This is great news ""Detroit, LA and the Ducks all have been in the Phaneuf rumours up here in the past week or so,"" because only one team can have him. That leaves two teams that may have an interest in Boyle... Ship out Boyle, we can always kick the tires on Toronto's RHS Dman POLAK.. $2.75mill this year & next....

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:28 pm EST

With Yandles pinching, you need him on with best shutdown you have on right side. That's Girardi. Also has highest offensive output, higher than McDs. Girardi's job just got harder, but he should log fewer minutes overall.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:28 pm EST

Mess... With Kevin Hayes, JT Miller and even Buchnevich, when would Duclar have gotten here? We did the kid a favor ....RF4L... but.... Detroit really wanted Boyle when we signed him :)

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:26 pm EST

Jim,Even with Leetch and Zubov they had a best pp that year and they weren't exactly big time shooters on pp either !!!!

ilya


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:26 pm EST

Klein / Yandle affords the least amount of disruption to start..... Then again, in practice they'll get to see who develops best with whom..

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:26 pm EST

This is a pretty typical Sather move. 29 other GMs swallowed their chewing gum.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:25 pm EST

veenyo must be crying having to part with duke éclair....don Maloney doing his victory dance....have to give to get...or be gotten .....sather mindset is now.....he's too old to worry about the future......

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:24 pm EST

Newfie....if he becomes a 30+ goal guy, many folks will be killing themselves. UNLESS we win a cup this year or next. Sat her has to have another move up his sleeve though for that to happen. Team still not tough enough, they don't hit anything.

Shaggy


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:24 pm EST

Future takes a substantial hit but we are now most stacked at D in the league in front of one of the best goalies. My pairings are Yandle/Girardi, Staal/Boyle, McDonaugh/Klein. All good first or second pairings anywhere in this league.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:23 pm EST

Newfie, yeah it sucks...he could be next Nash...but you know what, he could also not have a very good career. Yandle is a stud...did you like Zubov? We pretty much got a Zubov.

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:22 pm EST

Mess11: Just to clarify: I'm offering them Dan Boyle if they're interested in an offensive defenseman.... I'd include Stempniak to make the deal work, in exchange for Berglund & Paajarvi (RFA $1.2mill) It doesn't matter to me that he cleared the waiver wire.. I wouldn't quit on a guy his age with his abilities..

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:21 pm EST

Isn't anyone on here upset that we traded away a very good looking prospect in Duclair, besides me ?

Newfie_Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:20 pm EST

step: He fought last night, but I cannot find any videos for it.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:20 pm EST

Yandle is a HUGE cog in the PP

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:19 pm EST

Rhet: Detroit, LA and the Ducks all have been in the Phaneuf rumours up here in the past week or so.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:19 pm EST

RF: Absolutely my thought also. Great vid. Loved the initial check !

stepunmytoe


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:18 pm EST

Mess: G if you believe this team is a cup contender without a doubt. I'm not convinced they are, but I see no reason to believe they have as good a shot as anyone else to get out of the east. That said, they could get bounced in round 1 depending on who they are facing.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:17 pm EST

Tell you what, we can really use a Craig MacTavish right now for FOs.

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:17 pm EST

Other teams think hes valid RF. His name was in the mix.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:17 pm EST

Mess.... Rumors were that Detroit was hot for Phaneuff. I'm sure we can get them interested in Boyle.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:17 pm EST

Can Yandle shot the puck? I maintain part of the Rangers never-ending PP issues is because they have no one who can blast the puck and haven't for years, even before Sather came to NY.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:16 pm EST

would we rather have Girardi or the 1st 2nd and Duke

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:14 pm EST

yorkie where are you buddy any info or tidbits to watch for

KIS


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:14 pm EST

Pete/Ilya -- I heard that Boyle attributes his successful,career to saying a "Hail Mary" right before he goes on the ice before a game....you know what happens next!

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:14 pm EST

Now get me my face-off guy!!

RinkRat


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:13 pm EST

Paajarvi was on waivers and no one claimed him. His salary is more than his ability right now. St. Louis doesn't want to subtract from forward depth going into playoffs. They're buyers not sellers. Maybe Stempniak would help but they have no interest in Glass or Dom Moore and Stempniak alone doesn't get Berglund. They may pay picks/prospects for Boyle though.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:12 pm EST

Duclair with 0 points with 5 minutes left in game today. Meanwhile, Ryan Graves with a goal and an assist. This kid has me curious - I wonder how valid a prospect he is.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:12 pm EST

Does Sather have a "Gomez" up his sleeve? :->

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:12 pm EST

RR -- sad to see Dule go, but they need to go for the Cup now....The King and the core aren't getting any younger. ya gotta break some eggs to make an omelette. Yandle better be all that though wit the price Sather paid

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:10 pm EST

Agreed that Sather blew it opting to let Stralman go and choosing Boyle instead. Oh well, water under the bridge. If he can get rid himself of Boyle I will be suitably impressed. I wonder if he even wants to?

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:09 pm EST

Another thing, we gave up what we gave up largely due to the prices already being paid out there. I'm certain the extra 2nd Rounder was so the Yotes would eat 50% of his contract. Yandle is not the type of player that you retain salary on.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:08 pm EST

Mess11: Don't drop out on me here.... Boyle & something to St.Louis for Berglund and Marcus Paajarvi...... Paajarvi is a good way to restock the farm... This kid IS an NHL player... jmcjco

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:07 pm EST

Pete,Michale Corleone would say yes ,Much like Fredo ( he's got a big heart but weak and stupid) lol

ilya


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:07 pm EST

Have to remember that Boyle has been playing sick or injured most of the season, no steady partner for any stretch. Still, P/GP is 75th in league among defenders. Not great by any means, but acquiring team probably figures injuries and no stable partner, history of doing better = not a bad playoff pick up. Only one more year on contract, so not too risky either. market for righty puck movers is pretty high right now, there aren't any others available.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:06 pm EST

Multiple reports from Twitter sources that the Rangers aren'tt done yet.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:06 pm EST

Dump Boyle and call this guy up. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaassee...http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/127408

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:05 pm EST

Easy MF lol, easy.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:04 pm EST

MSG gives their athletes the Red Carpet treatment.. Good Chance Yandle re-ups to a deal that the organization can manage within the frmework of their Cap constraints...

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:02 pm EST

How bout that JFC, Yandle on our PP tmrw night. Listen, this was a big boy move. Not easy trading Duclair (apologies), the kids got done offensive magic. But you dont add 50-60 pts to your lineup just offering Moore and 3tds in the draft. Sather is a LUNATIC the way he orchestrates. Only regret is Hanzal isnt coming with him. But im very happy to keep JT. He deserves to stay & play with how hes persevered.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:02 pm EST

You probably have to pair Yandle with Girardi. He needs a righty anchor and has the most offensive output for this club. Probably the new top pairing

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:02 pm EST

pete: Fredo doesn't want him either !

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:02 pm EST

LA is indeed looking for D help. So are the Wings. And Ducks. All 3 have been in rumors involving Phaneuf.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:01 pm EST

Bob, Well this guy isn't over the hill vet he's 28 i'll take that deal any day of the week !!!!

ilya


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:01 pm EST

Bad news: Yandle is a -23 this season and -32 last season. Good news: it can't be all his fault b/c no one on the roster this year is a + player for the coyotes.I agree with those saying that Boyle and Yandle would be a nightmare. I hope this means Boyle is going somewhere, preferably on the boat with Fredo Corleone.

pete


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:00 pm EST

They have to get Yandle here ASAP for Nashville tomorrow.

Higgy21


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:00 pm EST

Maybe LA, Chi still looking for D

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:59 pm EST

I'm stating the obvious I know but clearly Sather is cup hunting. Guess you gotta commend him for that. But man, the organization will pay the price down the road. He probably doesn't give a crap because he'll retire in the next couple of years and it'll be someone else's mess.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:59 pm EST

Can't believe we couldon't dump glass as part of summers isnt going to see a sniff

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:58 pm EST

Sather finds his ways, remember, we got Kevin Hayes (a 1st rd pick) from Chicago.

Higgy21


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:58 pm EST

This trade is the focus of 7 of the top 9 trending topics on twitter in NYC

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:57 pm EST

I wonder which 2nd...hopefully the lowest one. Knowing Sather, however, probably not...

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:57 pm EST

Trade Boyle bring up Mac. What's Yandles FO % ?

stepunmytoe


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:56 pm EST

This could be another fleecing like the MSL and Clowe deals. The Rangers gave A LOT up for this guy. He is NOT Oliver Ekman-Larsson.

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:56 pm EST

Mess11: Theoretically, they could trade for a guy like Letestu, who can play 3rd line and is cap friendly...... Berglund can also take a faceoff, seems like a good depth signing for us: Faceoff stats: http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?fetchKey=20152ALLSASALL&ord=asc&sort=player.bioFirstNameLastName&viewName=faceOffPercentageAll

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:56 pm EST

Rhet\Mess: I hope you dudes are correct - I don't see it because Boyle has sucked. Who wants him? Perhaps it's possible if Rangers eat part of his salary??

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:55 pm EST

Hopefully Boyle will be aggressively pushed and picks coming back. Maybe a McIlrath call-up or we get another righty. Don't see Hunwick or Summers as more than #7s right now

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:54 pm EST

If we trade Boyle, we can recoup a pick. Let's wait and see.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:54 pm EST

Yeah TSN now reporting Yandle, Summers, 2015 4th for Duclair, Moore, 2015 2nd and 2016 1st. IMO that's a steep price and puts a further dent on the Rangers future. He sure better help. At least he's only 28 not 38 like MSL and Boyle, 2 of the biggest disappointments for the Rangers this year IMO.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:53 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 3m3 minutes ago That 4th-round pick this June that Rangers get in Yandle deal is almost like a 3rd-rounder when you consider where Arizona will end up..

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:53 pm EST

That is a high price for someone who can walk after next season

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:52 pm EST

RF4L -- maybe Satherbhas created a new paradigm in the NHL....if you're a 1st round draft pick who,doesn't like who drafted you, then just don't sign and Sather will,get you! :^)

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:52 pm EST

Oh shit...there he goes again - tossing away picks like they're candy.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:52 pm EST

Sather threw in one of our 2nds this year too. Maybe they are done. What else do they have to trade?

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:51 pm EST

Way too early to say who won - gotta see if Duclair is the real deal and how the first rounder plays out. Will be years before we know. Of course, if the Rangers win the cup this year (or next) who cares?

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:51 pm EST

Now saying we gave up 2nd this yrtoo..jeez don't know better get more done cigar cowbow

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:51 pm EST

According to @DarrenDreger, #Rangers are also giving up a second-round pick.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:50 pm EST

Dreger saying a 1st and a 2nd to Ari, a 4th coming back

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:50 pm EST

tsn vote so far 462 yotes won on the deal to 2 for nyr, .....prospect and a pick for yandle......makes the nyr a lot stronger.......for now.......dinty for summers , ice in the winter........

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:49 pm EST

NT for Zucc would represent an excellent example of compromise all,around and show that Zucc DID want to,stay in NY and DID put his money where his mouth is...TWICE. His reward is security that've will STAY in NY for X # of years...I'm assuming all 4

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:49 pm EST

Rhet: That helps off-set no 5th this June (tossed away stupidly to rent Diaz last year).

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:49 pm EST

4.5/4 years is a good contract for us, MZA

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:49 pm EST

mf- I see St. Louis being interested in Boyle bc of Shattenkirk injury, bad trade at last year's deadline. I don't think they move Berglund this season without a top-three line forward coming back.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:48 pm EST

Has to be another deal or two coming still haven't addressec core issue, and even with 50% staying with AZ we have to be still up against cap

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:48 pm EST

We're getting a 2015 4th rounder back.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:46 pm EST

Bobby McK saying MZA getting 4 years at $4,500,000...

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:46 pm EST

This does blow up all three pairings

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:45 pm EST

chin: If Buch and Tambellini are for real, Duclair's loss will be cushioned. I'm more concerned with the idea of no first round picks for 4 consecutive years. I hope Sather retains both 2nd rounders the Rangers have this June. That softens somewhat no first this year.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:45 pm EST

Man, if Sather gets Detroit to bite on Boyle......that would be fantastic. They were one of the teams talking to him before he signed hereS

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:45 pm EST

Rabid -- good call this morning re; Duke will get Yandle. How,the hell,can we have Boyle (who has scared then rap,out of me at how bad he's been the past 5 games) on this team at thismpoint unless he becomes an expensive black ace. Seriously, he has looked scary bad recently....like washed up,scary bad

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:44 pm EST

M11: do you see any reality in a Dan Boyle for Patrick Berglund deal?

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:44 pm EST

Dreger saying we get a pick back.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:43 pm EST

I would presume if there are no other D changes that they'll do what they did in the last game - pair Boyle with Staal and Yandle with Klein (or vice versa). While I have to agree that getting Boyle for 2 years looks like a disaster, come PO time he might "get hot" and be the difference in us winning a Cup or not. I know - I'm a hopeless optimist concerning this team! :)

Ranger47


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:43 pm EST

Can't imagine their being able to get rid of Boyle. Who would take him?

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:43 pm EST

Yandle has 41 points as a D man...that would put him up with the leaders on the Rangers...that's good. Plus/Minus doesn't tell the whole story...Leetch had a bad plus/minus in the last many years because the teams sucked.

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:43 pm EST

Ranger47: And the Vermette trade gives them 2 picks this June.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:42 pm EST

Mixed feelings right now. Was excited to see Duclair blossom and he would've been a cheap potental Top 6 guy. That being said, Yandle can play and will help the PP. and I like going for it Two downsides: not sure how they can re-sign Zucc and I don't want to see him go. And I said it the second it happened and I've stood by it ever since, not re-signing Stralman (who wanted to stay badly) for the same money they gave Boyle was a massive mistake and this move reiterates that. Stralman has played top pair most of the year for a really good team in Tampa, added more offense since they actually let him play on the PP, and he was our best defenseman as far as possession/analytics go last year. But I AM excited for Yandle, guy can skate, move the puck and has offensive skill.

chinstrap


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:42 pm EST

Rhet: to G-ds ears.... Detroit and I believe a west coast team are looking for a RHS Dman.... Sather isn't done, like you said, he needs to farm out Tanner Glass too... Lindberg should be fine on the 4th line, actually a huge upgrade IMO.....

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:41 pm EST

Boyle flip has to be next goal. St. Louis might be best option for that.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:41 pm EST

Nice job by Maloney who was in a difficult position...Duke, Moore and a first should really help them rebuild while cutting costs moving forward.

Ranger47


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:40 pm EST

Buch just moved up the depth chart!

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:40 pm EST

Zuccarello getting some NTC in his contract, but @TSNBobMcKenzie saying four years, $4.5M, which is what Rangers had been offering.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:39 pm EST

Rhet: But my God, who wants Boyle??

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:38 pm EST

I'm telling you, this deal is leading to something else. i just can't see Boyle/Yandle playing together ....or.... Boyle and anybody playing together.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:38 pm EST

Yeah and probably Hunwick gets farmed out...

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:38 pm EST

Can't complain about them not going for it. Maybe the Coyotes eating half Yandle's salary helps get the Zucc deal done. Not a lot of hope for bolstering the bottom 6 now.

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:38 pm EST

The fact that we didn't get Vitale or Gagner, Sather is still up to something else

Higgy21


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:38 pm EST

Summers cap hit 400k. Meet your new #7

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:38 pm EST

The Rangers, with 1/2 of Yandles contract being kept by Phoenix just added about $1,300,000 to their cap (because Moore went the other way). Wouldn't it be nice if Boyle gets moved? That would free up cap room...

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:36 pm EST

Chris Summers is 27 years old. He is not a prospect. He's Michael Kostka.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:36 pm EST

Summers played with Hags at U Mich. Former USNTDP, 2006 first rounder. Lefty. Hasn't done much in NHL

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:36 pm EST

Sure will miss the Duke. He and Domi will make the Coyotes next season and that will be a boost for their franchise. Yandle is a good player. Should help the power play. Makes the Boyle signing look like a disaster though.

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:35 pm EST

Chris Summers? Bubble player - 27 years old and struggles to get icetime with the crappy Yotes. Probably just a contract dump by Phoenix.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:35 pm EST

CHRIS SUMMERS: http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?5711

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:35 pm EST

FORGET THE FUTURES; you just subtracted Moore for Yandle. THATS what a team striving for s Cup does. Mentioned almost this exact swap about 7am this morning, and could care less. Get me a tough wing or FO man and lets WIN this thing.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:35 pm EST

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m2 minutes ago Girardi never part of Yandle deal. Main components believed to be Yandle, Chris Summers to NYR. ARI gets Duclair, Moore, 1st rder plus pick.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:34 pm EST

Chris Summers thrown in

Higgy21


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:34 pm EST

McKenzie says we also get Chris Summers

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:33 pm EST

Gotta think,the Buch stuff from the last couple of days is related to,why they'd include Duke....theynthink Buch is just as good as Duke

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:33 pm EST

With Duclair gone, better get that Tambellini kid signed!!!

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:33 pm EST

Phew. G stays.

stepunmytoe


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:32 pm EST

Hopefully Hags locked down next

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:32 pm EST

late first rounders pan out or don't. Worse than 50% for us, it seems. Duke likely to be a top six-er most of his career. That is the real loss so far.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:32 pm EST

If true, kept my fav player but lost my favorite rook. Given the choice, that's what I wouldnhave chosen with heavy heart.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:32 pm EST

I haven't seen Yandle play much - is his -32 an anomaly or did the Rangers just add any defensive nightmare to their backline?

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:32 pm EST

Duclair, Moore and the 2016 #1 pick.

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:31 pm EST

Whose gonna throw a check back there ? Bring up Mac !

stepunmytoe


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:31 pm EST

hopefully a prospect throw in on Phoenix side

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:31 pm EST

JEEZUS H, another first round pick,gone??

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:31 pm EST

RF: yeah, on an Arizona squad which leads the league in GA's with 214! Check out Sam Gagner career GA numbers... I'll make it easy for you: http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?6052

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:30 pm EST

i would have pushed them to take glass worthless on this team or any team. Would have taken chipchura, vitale, or gagner back

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:30 pm EST

Bob...yep, mediocrity is right around the corner. Oh well, if they win the cup this year of course it matters none....

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:30 pm EST

Kypreos: Apologies to Girardi. Its Moore, Duclair, multiple draft picks.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:30 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 54s55 seconds ago Duclair, Moore, 2016 first and 50 per cent of retention.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:29 pm EST

Of course, the Rangers 2016 #1 has to be part of the deal. We wouldn't want to actually have to make a pick in the first round. Ever.

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:29 pm EST

1st rounder included....

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:29 pm EST

Now Kypreos saying Girardi not part of deal.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:28 pm EST

Maloney gave us a gift. We still need to move salary and need to get rid of Boyle now. And Glass.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:28 pm EST

no girardi now is good especially if they are picking up 50% but boyle has to go they can't keep him now..

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:28 pm EST

And the future gets dimmer.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:28 pm EST

NHLnumbers ‏@NHLnumbers 58s59 seconds ago Yandle traded to the New York Rangers. Dan Girardi NOT expected to be a part of the deal. More to come. #NHL

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:28 pm EST

Can't see how it could be Girardi....who,would,play actual defense besides Staal?? And I thought he had a no trade?

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:27 pm EST

Yandle is a sparking -32 and is the WORST in the league.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:26 pm EST

There goes Duke? hopefully the samuelssons coming the other way.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:26 pm EST

View 1 new Tweet Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper now5 seconds ago Apologies to Girardi. Told he is now not expected in the deal. It's Moore , Duclair and mult'draft picks. #NHLtrade. #Rangers #Coyotes.

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:26 pm EST

Lots going on today. Sure won't be happy losing the Duke, but Yandle is only 28 and should be around for awhile. Let's hope it is no more than Duke, Moore and a #2.

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:25 pm EST

I sense to move Giradi or Staal to get Yandle.....that a sum Zero Game.

MelvilleFred


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:25 pm EST

There goes the SEAN DAY sweepstakes for next year... Damn

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:24 pm EST

Girardi cap hit 5.5 but actual salary 7 this season and next. Then 6.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:24 pm EST

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 34s35 seconds ago Key components likely to be going the other way are Anthony Duclair and draft picks, incl a 1st round pick

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:24 pm EST

Rhet: Guess they don't want Boyle. ;-) they'd rather eat salary... ha ha ha

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:23 pm EST

How bout that (Zuccy my man).

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:23 pm EST

Bye bye Duclair!

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:23 pm EST

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 56s56 seconds ago Awaiting details on Yandle to NYR trade (pending trade call) but ARI believed to be picking up 50 per cent of Yandle's money.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:22 pm EST

Look at you guys stealing my sources :(

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:21 pm EST

G can always agree to a deal. Maloney could have talked him into it. Arizona as a team stinks but it's a great place to live/play.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:21 pm EST

@renlavoietva says Zucc and NYR are about to reach a deal.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:20 pm EST

Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak now16 seconds ago #BREAKING - Zuccarello has re-signed with the Rangers. #DONE

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:20 pm EST

Girardi is not going anywhere

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:20 pm EST

Girardi has a NTC

Higgy21


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:20 pm EST

Sportnet now reporting Yandle to #NYR. Girardi could be going the other way as part of the deal. Awaiting detail

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:19 pm EST

Michalek? O this will be mind blowing...my mind is already blown. Id brtter go find it.....

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:19 pm EST

jkropp you're supposed to say that Girardi went to go live on a farm in the country

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:18 pm EST

Girardi was our most solid D. If Staal was struggling, they'd shift Girardi down to settle his play. Girardi gone, we have no pairing with any real experience together.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:18 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 1m1 minute ago Yandle has been traded to NYR. Figuring out rest of deal

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:17 pm EST

Then again, maybe Boyle gets dealt. That would be nice and if Yandle's coming, he's not needed.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:17 pm EST

Ivsaid last night issue with Yandles ice if he came. NOT what I had in mind!!!!!!!!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:17 pm EST

Blueshirt Bulletin.... Per our #NYR guru and editor @DavidKolbMSG this is getting "massive"

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:17 pm EST

My 6 year old son's favorite player is Girardi and when I told him he was traded he just cried like someone died. Wow...at least he gets to get a new jersey!

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:16 pm EST

I guess thats why Boyle spent some time with McD last night. That is not a viable option

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:16 pm EST

WOW! This is some crazy SH.....

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:16 pm EST

If its true, the Rangers just got wimpier, not that G is a fighter. He's got guts and is the team's top hitter.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:15 pm EST

Mess it probably means another deal would be coming or maybe McIlrath get's called up :) ... I'm not believing this until it's been confirmed as done. Right now, Maloney could just be trying to up our ante.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:14 pm EST

Oh no.....

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:14 pm EST

Daisy, who let you out of your room?

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:14 pm EST

holy crap..what else is there..

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:13 pm EST

Id love to get a qualitu right shot like gagner back. Duclair moore no 1? Aint it sumptin MFie? And shocker, talks back with xuc (and all b.s. fingers crossed)

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:12 pm EST

Yandle isn't even signed after next season. Dealing Girardi makes us reliant on Boyle, blows up our top pairing. One of our top hitters, top shut downs, gone.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:12 pm EST

Zucc might not be moving in this deal or at all.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:11 pm EST

My god. That is a mistake.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:11 pm EST

MZA back in talks could also be why we are talking with ARI. Willingness to meet MZA demands may drive Hagelin out of the door. I think thats a mistake, IMO. Hags does a lot of crafty things and will only get better at that. Move Hags and we lose almost all our shorthanded scores, many of our breakaways. Those are absolute game changers, totally demoralizing to other team. Hags takes a lot of penalties but he gets away with so much more.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:11 pm EST

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper 39s39 seconds ago #NHLtrade. Yandle to #Rangers. Girardi expected to be in the deal as well going to #coyotes

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:11 pm EST

There it is

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:10 pm EST

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper now5 seconds ago #NHLtrade. Yandle to #Rangers. Girardi expected to be in the deal as well going to #coyotes

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:10 pm EST

If we are moving Boyle in the deal or in a subsequent deal to be announced, YANKLE'S Cap Hit is NOT an issue... The worst projections have us with an $1.25mill cap room & Boyle's is $4.5mill, a mill less than Yankle's....... I'd like us to send Hunwick & keep JMoore on as our 7th defenseman....offer them Connor Allen, DuClair, Hunwick or Moore, and what ever NOT named McIlrath, Haggerty, Lindberg, Buchnevich, Skjei.......

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:08 pm EST

Rather in on Yandle is huge, would be huge for team. Not sure how we make it work next season. Afraid of what the price would be. Hope Sather isn't trying to do this just for show.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:08 pm EST

Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN 31s31 seconds ago Situation w/ Zuccarello and Rangers has shifted since yesterday. Two sides have resumed discussions and want to try to still get deal done

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:07 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman adding context to Berglund rumor- Blues RFA C Vlad Sobotka expected to return from KHL next season. No slot for him currently, Berglund a drag on Blues salary cap. I think MZA and Boyle could bring back Berglund, Cole +. You'd try to flip Cole and more to Arizona for Yandle. If not, Cole is no step down from Moore.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:06 pm EST

jkropp: Ditto! as discussed there is a perceived chemistry between The DuClaw & the Domi.... There is actual chemistry with ZUCC & the Rangers... If it's one vs the other, this member of the CJC votes to keep the ZUCC! (btw, it's a no brainer)

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:05 pm EST

Why would Maloney want a pending UFA? Could Hags be going? Yandle has a 5.5 mil cap hit

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:03 pm EST

getting yandle would be a very good move .....then comes the price.....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:02 pm EST

M11: This post of yours was spot spot on: Sat Feb 28 2015 11:25 pm EST AV needs to stop playing for the defense he wants and start playing for the defense he has. (I mean that in all sincerity.. To take it a step further, that goes for the entire team when on the defensive side of the puck.)

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:01 pm EST

True dat.....Hockey Buzz Eklund‏@Eklund.... When a bunch of people release a rumor at the same time it usually is a leak meant to push other teams…Maloney is a smart one

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:01 pm EST

Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak 11s11 seconds ago Also hearing it could be Duclair, 1st in 2015, Zuccarello, Moore for Yandle, Gagner. So many texts on this deal. Trying to get it out. CRAZY IF THAT'S TRUE!!!

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 4:00 pm EST

Call me crazy but I'd rather give up Duc than Zucc

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:59 pm EST

RHet: you Tai Ping with two fingers again? pretty quick today!

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:59 pm EST

Garrioch saying Berglund could be available at the deadline. Maybe, but St. Louis not looking to diminish their depth before playoffs. Also, 3.7 million for next two seasons, not the fastest guy on the ice. MZA would do it, IMO, and maybe you could get an Ian Cole or Petteri Lindbohm if you threw in Moore and a pick. I don't know if THEY have the cap room for this, but otherwise I think they'd be interested in Dan Boyle with Shattenkirk out. Could we put together a package that brings back Berglund and some parts that enables us to trade for Yandle? Long shot. Prefer to keep MZA at reasonable $.

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:59 pm EST

Joe Fortunato ‏@BlueshirtBanter now6 seconds ago “@TSNBobMcKenzie: ARI will want Anthony Duclair and a first-round pick if they're to give up Yandle. #TradeCentre.” THROWING UP AGAIN!!!

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:58 pm EST

J. Moore and Zucc is too much tho

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:58 pm EST

I hope Boyle is going the other way... And yeah, we know all about the LHD / RHD situation.... The dry climate should do Boyle's arthritis good

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:57 pm EST

Yandle would be a huge add... but it ultimately depends on what else is going to Arizone.

evets1980


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:57 pm EST

Please let Boyle go back the other way, please let Boyle go back the other way...... :)

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:56 pm EST

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 25s25 seconds ago NYR are deep into discussions to acquire defenceman Keith Yandle from ARI but it's reportedly not done yet. If it gets done, it will be big.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:55 pm EST

NHLSourcesSay ‏@NHLSourcesSay 33s33 seconds ago *Breaking News* #Rangers acquire Keith Yandle from #Coyotes WOW

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:55 pm EST

Evets.... Read that too, but not confirmed.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:53 pm EST

Rangers apparently on the verge of sending Zucc+ to Arizona for Yandle.

evets1980


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:53 pm EST

Rhet: Musta been a long article. ;-)

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:53 pm EST

HockeyRumors&Trades..... New York media reporting a possible trade between #NYRangers & #Coyotes. Details to come if so.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:52 pm EST

Tiger Wood!

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:52 pm EST

BTW.... Buchnevich has NOTHING to do with Zuccarello. It was planned to bring Buchnevich in as soon as his KHL deal finished. I've been reading about it for over a year and a half. Also, If Buchnevich's team had made the playoffs, he'd still be in the KHL right now. His team did not make the playoffs and the NYR pounced. Fans are jumping to conclusions.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:52 pm EST

Seems like a "half loaded" question... I'll have to drink about it.

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:51 pm EST

If a Zuccarello signs a new contract in the woods, does anyone hear about it?

Ranger47


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:51 pm EST

Late to the party....so Vermette to the Hawks...makes sense.

MelvilleFred


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:50 pm EST

RHET et al: seems like HockeyBuzz is updating their web-site with regularity to reflect the trading & salary figures: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=WAS

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:48 pm EST

moof less than 24 hours...think outside the carton!......is a half gallon half full or half empty?.....how about half and half?......

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:45 pm EST

The Columbus #BlueJackets have signed Dillon Heatherington to a 3 year entry-level contract.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:40 pm EST

gene_carr: your post of Sun Mar 1 2015 12:40 pm EST get's an "A" for creativity & thinking outside the box... ;-)

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:30 pm EST

Wild: either the thin air or the 2nd hand smoke in your state is getting to you.. Sure, Zucc should just be willing to take a $500K (10%) per year discount... Most of America doesn't make $100K per year, and @ a $100K per year salary it would take that person 5 years to earn 1/2 mill.... Zucc has a limited amount of years to earn this amount as does any professional athlete... ""Ye' of the scanning the statistics & quoting the offensive production of a player in terms of % of points per game expressed as a decimal, have you looked at ZUCC's PPG career averages lately?"" (allow me) http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?7214 ..... It's time that the NHL include a column to express (read: display) the +/- statistics in decimal formatted terms of a positive or negative gapg... Back to the point, ZUCC is worth every $Dollar of $5mill per on a 5 year deal, unfortunately we don't have an ear inside the room to know the numbers.... SATHER & Co., should also be asking Team Stepan if they'd go for a 7year $5.75million dollar deal so that the organization can see what they can afford next season if "the Song (Cap) Remains the Same." ..... Stepan, may take that deal as he will have just turned 32 at the end of that contract.. http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?6917 ..... If Sather could come out and announce that both guys have been signed to new extensions, he'd be hitting a P.R. homer out of the park in the bottom of the 9th with bases loaded with 2 outs.... I just don't get how someone can suggest that a guy forfeit so much income when the free market will pay him much more.... end of rant....

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:20 pm EST

Corey Hirsch ✔ @CoreyHirsch These trades with high prices essentially means lots of teams think they can win this year. One problem, only one team can.

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:13 pm EST

I don't know much but if we don't tighten up the D and stop giving up 3 goals a game it won't matter who we get at the deadline. And I'm concerned about Nash......praying he doesn't have another concussion.

MelvilleFred


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:13 pm EST

RR: That's way to risky, I don't think anyone that surrounds Zucc in an advisory position would propose or push for that... jmo

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:12 pm EST

The Vegas Bookies made a killing betting that TD would Post by the TD!!! Good to read you buddy.....

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:12 pm EST

My problem with trading Zucc for cap reasons is does it mean they are considering resigning MSL? Compounding one huge mistake with another!

NYStranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:06 pm EST

Don't have sufficient cap room to claim him, but Rene Bourque on waivers

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 3:04 pm EST

Zuc could just sign another 1-yr deal. Said a few weeks ago its a problem for him to base a long term deal on current numbers, which are down due to slow start (and injury imwo). Could cost him millions on long term deal. Kick the can down the road a year imo and get back to improving the team!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:57 pm EST

AV's latest comments lead me to believe that FINAL OFFERS are about to be presented by both sides. If there were a trade in the works, not sure he'd even comment at all....at least that's what my hopeful,side,says.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:55 pm EST

Michael Grosso...... #BREAKING - Talks between the Leafs and Ducks have picked up in the last 24 hours. Ducks like Phaneuf and Polak.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:54 pm EST

It's times like this when I am reminded of how much I depend on The Wall for comraderie and great info. My favorite player is in jeopordy of being dumped and this is the only place I go for accurate updates and insights....whether I agree with them or not.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:47 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/28/why-some-rangers-dont-want-gm-sather-to-trade-zuccarello/

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:45 pm EST

Michael Grosso..... #BREAKING - Zidlicky is garnering interest from playoff teams. Hearing Wings, Pens are the most interested. Likely he gets moved by tmrw.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:41 pm EST

Rangers Report ✔ @rangersreport According to @stevezipay: In respect to other teams' signings, AV says with limited cap space, there's only so much the Rangers can do 13m Rangers Report ✔ @rangersreport ... Said "nothing doing yet" on Zuccarello but couldn't give definitive answer whether he would be in the lineup tomorrow. ......duh.....how could he?.......only a few ways to create cap space.......

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:35 pm EST

Hockey Tracker....... CSNPhilly reports the Philadelphia #Flyers are hoping to trade Braydon Coburn by Monday

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:23 pm EST

Andrew Gross.... AV was reminded last two maintenance days were for Lundqvist and Nash, both who missed games. AV says he expects Girardi to be available..... AV indicated any X-rays on Girardi were negative.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:22 pm EST

Let's give Slats some room here...I'm sure he and AV know that the window is not that big...Hank is the best chance of this team winning a cup. I can't see them ruining the team this year...also there is information that they know that nobody on here knows...

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:20 pm EST

New York Rangers@NYRangers..... AV was not on ice during #NYR practice, says he was in meetings "if you can improve your team you certainly will take a look at it"

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:19 pm EST

JFC - ".can't see us winning The Cup this year if Sather trades Zucc and that would be a sickening display of incompetence by Sather IMO"...Said the same thing below.....But Sather likes to play with fire...this time he just might burn the team down....We'll see

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:19 pm EST

Pat Leonard..... Vigneault was in meetings. Says no announcements on that front yet. Says he can't give definitive answer on Zucc being in 2moros lineup

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:19 pm EST

Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN now15 seconds ago Vigneault was in meetings. Says no announcements on that front yet. Says he can't give definitive answer on Zucc being in 2moros lineup #woh

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:19 pm EST

1 day left until ... SATHER does nothing and we end up losing in the first round to a more physical team.

THE Kreider


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:17 pm EST

TDCHI - It;s been good for a few days, so hopefully we get on a roll..Great to have another person around to disagree with.:)..Totally disagree on WASH, they had the offense from the D and the speed/skill up front..Gkeason adds a toug PO defender and Glencross a crease crasher..two things they deperately needed....And who cares what CHi gave up if their goal is to win the CUp tis year, they will alwys find a way....Will Sather? Or will he just pick up crap or even degrade te team with an MZA deal?

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:14 pm EST

td -- good comeback post on all fronts. Your analysis syncs with mine....can't see us winning The Cup this year if Sather trades Zucc and that would be a sickening display of incompetence by Sather IMO

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:13 pm EST

TD just threw a TD on that post.

THE Kreider


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:10 pm EST

Great post TD - welcome back!

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:08 pm EST

TD! Welcome Back!

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:06 pm EST

Long time, no post. Just a couple of thoughts to mull...I personally don't think Zuccarello is being traded and the situation he's in is much different that Callahan's(though I was also the one who said no way Callahan gets traded...). I don't think Zuccs looking for the same deal and frankly, I think he wants to stay in NY --something that wouldn't happen if he demands anything over $5.5 million...The guy could have held out summer for more than the bridge deal he has...he could have forced a trade after he went to the KHL...he wants to play here...Nevertheless, the reality is this: The Rangers have two wingers with serious promise that will be with the team next year(Buchnevich and Duclair)...they have one in Hartford who is not too far away from making his debut(Haggerty; saw him play two weeks ago and the kid is real close, IMO, but that's a different subject)...I don't think its a foregone conclusion Zucc leaves or stays, but the key to the question of whether he's moved now hinges on whether the Rangers feel they can substantively improve their team by dealing him now...the player would need to be young, have a low cap hit and able to replace what Zucc brings...and I have yet to see a name floated out there that suggests a deal like that is in the works...The closest would be Bozak, and he neither has a low cap hit nor does he bring what the Rangers lack...JVR would be a bit closer, but is Toronto really willing to trade him to a division rival? Doubt it. Hard to ignore the chatter about Zucc, but I simply don't see Sather making that move unless what he's getting back is too good to be true...On the ATKINSON note: I guess I could see Cam and a prospect like Kerby Rychel and/or a first rounder for Zucc...but again, if the Rangers are looking for the Cup now --which they are --that trade makes little sense...As for the other detritus that's passing from one team to the next...so glad Sather is taking a seat. The Capitals have improved? Nonsense. Team got older and slower. Chicago and Vermette? Prospect and a second rounder? Good luck to them(BTW, Dahlbeck might not be an all-star, but he's one heck of a prospect...would be like us trading Skjei)...Sekera? Not bemoaning that one either...McClement resigning? We already have him. Only he's named Dom Moore...Best move Sather could make right now is to get some muscle...Zack Kassian would be my target. And if they really want a faceoff guy, then Jarret Stoll from LA...unfortunately for the Rangers, the problem they REALLY need to solve is one they created: Dan Boyle. And there's no easy way to solve that...on a related note, I do think McIlrath is about ready to break into the bigs. He looked pretty polished to me when I saw him. Anyway, glad to see some civility has reached this place. Hopefully it stays. Love posting here. So sick of the nonsense that envelopes this place.

tdchi


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:05 pm EST

Personally, I'd rather have Zucc than Hags...and I like Hags speed...

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:05 pm EST

Per NHL EXPERT PICKS....... #Bruins were in on Antoine Vermette trade but were unwilling to give up their 1st round pick ........Per Darren Dreger....... Teams are calling the Flyers looking for D. Philly is listening and interested in moving money and making trades...... Tim Panaccio...... Flyers hoping to move Braydon Coburn by Monday. Teams are calling.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:02 pm EST

AV could basically hold Zucc's future in his hands right now, if indeed he is talking to Sather. If Sather tells AV that he has an offer for Player X and asks AV what he thinks....and AV says I think the team will not be as good if you make that deal, then Sather probably doesn't make it. Or if Sather says, "Hey, they've come down tom$5 mil per year....if I give him that money, we're going to,lose Hags or Brass next year. What do you think?"

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:01 pm EST

EKLUND confirms that ZUCC goes the Mayan Astronomers for ERIC CHRISTENSEN.

THE Kreider


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:00 pm EST

There's ZERO chance that we trade with BOS.

THE Kreider


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:58 pm EST

I don't think Sather would,trade with a team(Boston) that we already have problems with and give a traded player a chance to help knock,us out of the EC playoffs

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:49 pm EST

if its Boston, its a safe bet we get Eriksson, doubt we could get Smith, or Soderberg. Trade Boyle to Detroit, Zucc for Yandle, then package Miller+ for a top 6 wing.

Higgy21


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:48 pm EST

RF4L... I think TSN also reported that yesterday. Yes, If you are hoping to keep a guy, you don't let him talk to other teams to see if the grass is greener.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:46 pm EST

Damian Cox of the Toronto Star has said that Sather won't let would be trade partners talk to MZA's agent. If that's true, then it must mean Sather remains hopeful he'll get MZA signed.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:43 pm EST

I bet Boston has called about MZA - they are in the market for a top 6 winger.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:43 pm EST

Jim, I like that!

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:42 pm EST

good point but hopefully its "we have a contract for Zuc and we have these other players we can move-glass, moore, boyle, ect what do you think" Tomorrow might be a snooze fest for TSN..

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:40 pm EST

NOT TO WORRY...... A fake LeBrun account said... Zuccarello to Chicago.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:39 pm EST

Higgy.... You are correct sir. That would be my take as well.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:38 pm EST

I'm sorry, but AV would not be meeting with SATHER if there was a new deal in place for Zucc. There is probably multiple offers and wants AV to decide the best fit.

Higgy21


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:38 pm EST

Boston and Columbus interested in Zucc

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:38 pm EST

Mark Lazerus ✔ @MarkLazerus Patrick Sharp said he's pursuing possible legal action for "false" and " laughable" speculation "dragging your name through the mud."

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:36 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman ✔ @FriedgeHNIC After tomorrow's deadline, teams will be able to have as large a roster as they want (subject to the cap ceiling).

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:36 pm EST

even if they keep Zuc -which I hope they do they have some work to do to improve this team. Caps are looking like possible first round matchup and they are going to be tougher out even before the Glencross move.

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:33 pm EST

have not read this mornings post's here yet so excuse me if this is out of sequence... What would prompt Minny-Soda to trade Brodziak, are they not still in competition for a playoff spot???

mf


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:32 pm EST

if something is coming soon, it's him signing......if it was a trade probably be at eleventh hour deal tomorrow.....wishful thinking and hoping.....

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:30 pm EST

Zuc new deal?

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:30 pm EST

NHL Rumors@NHLRumorsDaily...... We still stand by our info of last night, Atkinson or Cole to Boston

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:28 pm EST

Parody Account..... Glen Sather@GM_of_NYR.... It ain't easy trying to convince Donny that Boyle is a fair swap for Yandle.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:28 pm EST

RHET - The Rangers are up shit's creek without a paddle if that hasn't been decided already..They are poised to blow up a GOOD chance at the cup through both managerial incompetence and inactivity...

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:27 pm EST

Bob McKenzie.... The 2nd and 3rd round picks CGY gets from WSH in Glencross deal are 2015 draft. Trade call hasn't happened yet, though.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:26 pm EST

Randy Sportak..... Washington was reportedly pushing hard for Glencross. Caps apparently weren’t originally on Glencross’s list, but they convinced him to add

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:25 pm EST

Pure Conjecture regarding AV and Sather....Not a fly on the wall, but i think the conversation is basically, "do we keep him and possibly lose him in the offseason or do we move him for less?"

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:23 pm EST

NHL Rumors ‏@NHLRumorsDaily...... No deal had been made at this point, but something on the Zuccarello front is coming soon

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:22 pm EST

RHET - hard question..becasue as a fan, I don't know "who's available" or "who's left?" but a few that come to mine are Legwand, Bozak, Broziak (is he avail?), Korp, Ledtestu...But who knows...................................................Possibly losing MZA cahnges everything...My move would be to move HAYES to the top 2 lines, and still get a versatile 3rd liner type---not sure Atkinson does it for me...

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:22 pm EST

Karan Thakur..... Calgary gets a 2nd- and 3rd-pick coming back in return.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:21 pm EST

NHL Rumors.... "AV not on ice at NYR practice. He's currently meeting with Sather" ....Me think's they're talking about Zucc.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:20 pm EST

Strike two Sather. When it comes to Yandle, wanna maybe put the bat on the ball? Maybe?!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:20 pm EST

JFC - great post. I agree. They may look at Brasssrd differently because he's a Center.

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:18 pm EST

We all know that Brassard and Zuccarello have basically been a package since last year. No way removing one doesn't effect the other. Brassard has had NO SEASONS where he scored over 50 points. NONE. LAst year was the 1st season where Zucc was given a full season to,show,what he can do and he lead the team in scoring and scored 59 points....more,than Brass has ever scored. This season Zucc is not doing as well and he's STILL on pace for a 50+ point season....something Brass has NEVER done. Yet, Brass got a $5 mil. Contract and some think Zucc isn't worth that. BRASS doesn't back check like Zucc and isn't as feisty as Zucc. Zucc is more,defensively responsible than Brass. I'm not insulting Brass....just trying to understand how Sather has no,problem giving him $5 mil and not Zucc.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:18 pm EST

Thanks Rhet - and I also am curious on who is left on the market. Petry?

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:18 pm EST

Darren Dreger.... "Sounds like a couple of picks for Glencross from Caps"...... Would have been my guess.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:17 pm EST

With GLENCROSS and GLEASON, CAPS are gonna be one tough and physical team to play in the POs...Heavy htting D along with Kalrson and Greene..Plus their Forwards..Will depend on HOLTBY

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:17 pm EST

Though I will say, Fake Darren Dreger scooped the Real Darren Dreger.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:16 pm EST

Drew.... You are correct, sir.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:14 pm EST

I think both the fake and real Darren Dreger twitters have Washington as Glencross' new team.

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:14 pm EST

Hospo.... Who's left that you really want?

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:13 pm EST

Glencross to Wash Dreger

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:12 pm EST

MZA Traded!... for Gartner and Amonte. If they trade him they better get some good assets. He is a hell of a playmaker and has a lot of heart. I loved Gartner and Amonte though and that worked out... just saying.

jkropp


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:11 pm EST

Roger Millions ‏@RogMillions .... Hearing Glencross summoned to #Flames hotel to learn his destination from GM Treliving

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:11 pm EST

Will be happy to have Fast back in the lineup....He is defensively responsible and we need that right now....

PJ


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:09 pm EST

Andrew Gross.... Other than Girardi (maintenance) all healthy Rangers on ice today. Jesper Fast practicing full again. Should be available tomorrow night.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:09 pm EST

Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord Other than Girardi (maintenance) all healthy Rangers on ice today. Jesper Fast practicing full again. Should be available tomorrow night.

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:09 pm EST

Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord Other than Girardi (maintenance) all healthy Rangers on ice today. Jesper Fast practicing full again. Should be available tomorrow night.

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:09 pm EST

Atkinson I assume, would replace MZA. MZA for picks/prospects perhaps?

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:08 pm EST

Steve Zipay..... AV not on ice. Something may be cooking

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:08 pm EST

Steve Zipay: @stevezipay: AV not on ice. Something may be cooking

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:08 pm EST

Atkinson, BTW, grew up in Greenwich and was coached by (asst. coach) Dave Maloney at Brunswick School..... Rangers Report ✔ @rangersreport Atkinson, a right winger, small with a big, big motor, will be an RFA this summer. Makes $1.75M now.

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:07 pm EST

With Gleason and now Glencross, the Capitals have gotten bigger and harder to play against this weekend. Meanwhile Sather diddles and plays games with one of his offensive go-to guys. Nice job so far!!

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:07 pm EST

New York Rangers..... #NYR take the ice for afternoon practice...Dan Girardi only player not out there

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:07 pm EST

According to @RogMillions Curtis Glencross has left Flames practice.....According to @RogMillions, Flames players left ice to say goodbye to Glencross, who then left the rink.

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:06 pm EST

NHL EXPERT PICKS .... Curtis Glencross pulled off the ice early at #Flames practice ......One of the ESPN guys says it's NOT Boston.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:04 pm EST

Glencross on the move supposedly Washington not confirmed though

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:03 pm EST

Twitter abuzz Glencross dealt. Left practice.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:02 pm EST

Zucc+ For Yandle while Boyle goes to Detroit or Anaheim. I hear Higgins is available from Van.

Higgy21


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:00 pm EST

Would hate to lose Zucc but don't believe we will....The points we have piled up lately has masked some issues with this team for sure....The glaring turnovers keep piling up and Dan Boyle was more responsible for last nights loss than anyone.....He is a mess...Flyers convert a couple of slam dunks they missed and it isn't even a close game....As soon as everyone started saying Staal has been our most consistent D this year he starts playing poorly....Maybe just the ups and downs of a season or at least I hope so....Moore and Hundwick are better than Boyle right now....

PJ


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:54 pm EST

SCULLY and OLA - with you totally,,MZA is a very good individual AND team performer who can help this team win the CUP now and in the future...SATHER has made this very messy and scary

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:52 pm EST

They said Zucc talked to the Swedish (not US) media yesterday after the game. Is OLA around to tell us if he said anything of interest/consequence?

Ranger47


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:47 pm EST

I'm hoping the Rangers can keep Zuc since he plays so much bigger than he is. The numbers don't look like they are that far off give him an extra year bring the total to 6 at 4.5 and sign. Screwing up the room with the playoffs around the corner just seems very counter productive.

Scully5460


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:43 pm EST

Letting Stralsy walk could look real bad 3-10 years from now, but I get that move. We needed a PPQB, and we liked Girardi more than Stralsy. Girardi is not the captain of throw team but I think from an attitude POV he is our backbone. But I can bet my right arm that loosing Zucc would really suck. Give. The other players we have on this team, given the lack of PMDs on the roster, we preferably need BOTH Zucc and MSL for the coming 5 years, not none of them after next year and a 42 y/o version of MSLS next year. Who is getting Kreider the puck? Who is getting Nash the puck? Who is getting Duclair the puck? Who is getting Hayes the puck? Who is getting these guys up ice? You know I like Buhnevich but he is a 19 y/o playing in the KHL. He is easily the type who could put it together when he is 25 and not 20. That takes us to 2020, Buchnevich should be groomed in when MSL retires behind Nash and Zucc. It's just such a dumb hockey decision to gamble with Zucc like this and loose. Slats should just get it done. Some of the ppl here trashing Zucc have done it forever. He don't have the pedigree, Slats has handled this extremely poorly.

Ola


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:40 pm EST

I don't like to propose trades as it is often only wishful thinking, but if MZA is going would MZA, Boyle, J.Moore and a 2nd get Bozak and Polak? I know I am looking at creative ways to get Boyle out of here, but is this a hockey trade?

gene_carr


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:32 pm EST

Speaking of Last year's deal, BOOMER ESIASON was all over them way before anybody else....Anybody know if he has siad anything this year?

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:30 pm EST

BOB - Now that I would love to see!! Just for the name!

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:29 pm EST

BOB - Yep, last year was CAlly/St.Louis in the morning which had the place burning,,,and some waiting for a move for a bigger forward that never came..But, still fun...WHo knows about this year?...As YOGI said, ain't over till it's over....But Damn, they better hold on to ZUCC..Total failure from SATHER for the present and future if he can not...

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:27 pm EST

Maybe Radek the Magnificent will come out of retirement to play on the 4th line.

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:24 pm EST

Bourque ans the McGinn on waivers - Keith Aulie - no glass or kotska Would take a chance with McGinni been hurt but just came back last night looked ok against sens

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:23 pm EST

Rangers trade dreadline is close again. Not likely to be as exciting as last year when Callahan ran himself out of town. Vermette brought back a low #1 and pedestrian prospect. Surprised Maloney did not get more for him.

Bob


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:15 pm EST

THANK GOD! ERIXON to the LEAFS!!

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:06 pm EST

Drew Gorton & Schoenfeld do a lot of legwork. Gorton is the numbers guy too. Dreger sayin same on glencross; CAL wants young D. We're not on his list, yet. Every deal has its own complications.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:04 pm EST

JRATELL19 - Exactly, this entire weekend should be fun as shit....WE (including myself) all need not take ourselves and our worhtless opinons so seriously and just treat our friends or fellows posters (I consider most friends) with respect and good nature! Even, which is likely, we get irked reading stuff.......Oh yeah, GET VERMETTE!!! Wait....hmmm

Hospo


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:52 am EST

get a new agent, they don't give 2 craps about the nyr.........all 3 should be in the room, and make a deal....stop the bs......mza needs to understand he has to make the decision, not the jerks sponging off him.......if he wants really to stay, he has to sign something....and don't look back......

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:45 am EST

Whoever asked Buch news yesterday definitely no accident. Bringing in another euro scoring RW just as theyre trying to ink Zuc.pressure. same might be said of Atkinson. They want hom signed now. Heard Zucs agent walked away from talks. If they talk again today it behooves Zuc to sign the contract!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:43 am EST

stevie -- right....I keep,thinking that there's no way this shouldn't get done at these numbers if both sides are sincere in their desire to keep/stay in NY. But Zucc can't let his agents hijack,the negotiations because all,they want to,do,is maximize their commission which is based on final contract #'s. The years and dollars should,give a basis for a compromise....maybe even a 3 year no move clause...that seemed to,help,themGirardi and Stall negotiations. And BTW, Zucc led the team in scoring last year, not Brassard....last year was Brassard's coming out party where he solidified the idea that he finally "gets it" as a player....and he got a $5 mil contract....that after Zucc out scored him for the season. So,why isn't Zucc worth close to,that?

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:14 am EST

If this leaking is a public relations ploy, it might be working on this fan. I have been beaten to submission. The most important roster move for me is a healthy Lundqvist. I hope Zuccarello stays and the cap is manageable.

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:11 am EST

5.5 not 4.5 , 4 years no 6 years, etc.... it's called negotiating.....next is the compromise......who's showing good or bad faith.....?.......what's the highest total 5.5 for 5 = 27.5 ....over 6 years it becomes 4.6.....he probably should settle for 4 or 5 years @$4.75 or 5 .....they need to get it finished today before sather gets a real offer and time pressure to say yes or no......if he can get $25 mil over 5 or 6 years, take the money and play here......loyalty, home team discount, and the golden rule. guy with the gold rules, that's sather.....give him some smoke up his ass, and he'll bend.......just know when he says take or leave it is for real.......does anyone really know what sather is offering ?,,,,,4.5 for 4 = 18 , that's big gap to 27.5..... my guess 4.8 for 5 = 24 mil should get a deal..... take a poll and start a pool......

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 11:07 am EST

David Pagnotta....... Would the Kings love to get rid of Richards? Absolutely. Not sure there's a fit (and Leafs still want nothing to do with him).

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:59 am EST

All right, folks! Let's take a step back and breathe, please. These last 24 hours or so might be a little nerve wracking and there will certainly be disagreements. Let's try not to let emotions get the best of us. Everyone here is capable of offering good insight.

jratelle19


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:57 am EST

Darren Dreger...... Oilers getting calls on their captain, Andrew Ference. Ference has no-move clause and hasn't been asked (yet) if he would waive. Still early

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:48 am EST

Yeah, Wild we were all foolish to discuss it when you had the answer all along. What were we thinking? Please. And what is it that you don't understand about me saying that Zuccarello should interject himself in the process and take less. Please. And I'll say this again slowly so,you can understand....when you look at where've are now and the lack,of leverage Sather has with the other GMs because he is up,against the deadline (and they KNOW it) it would have made a lot more sense for,Satherbto,realize that the twins never would meet and start shopping him EARLIER. If you don't think,that's a good idea fine....but take,your condescending "please" and stick it somewhere else.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:40 am EST

And what about Sather maybe giving Zucc more tha. He wants to, but less than market value...let's say 5 for 5( a nice compromise between 5.5 &. 4.5) and the. He can trade him after thenPOs are over....because I'll say it again....if he trades Zuccarello he's screwing a chance to win the Cup....the whole season will be an exercise in futility and Hank and the boys will just be another year older.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:33 am EST

Please! It's Sathers fault that Zucc who says he wants to be a Ranger, apparently turned down a 5 year 4.5 mil per deal? That's a good deal for him. He has had one single very good season in the NHL. If Sather went out and gave a small forward with one good season, the rest being a half ppg seasons, 5.5 mil per year this wall would be going nuts. But for Zucc it's crazy to not give him at least that. Give me a break. Earlier this year I said 4.5 tops for him for 4-5 years....seems I wasn't far off what Sather was thinking and some TSN guys seem to echo that. I stand by that number.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:33 am EST

Wild - great post. I'm not condoning Zuccarello or his agents demands. I actually never realized that factoid about Lundqvist hitting the market. But you make a good point about the others taking less than market to stay.

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:28 am EST

Drew/wild -- imwrote yesterday that now is the time for Zucc to take charge of this situation if he really wants to,stay here. If they are at an impasse that is $1 mil per year apart, the deal can probably get done if Zucc goes down to $4.75 for 5 or 6 years or maybe $5 mil for 4 years. Sather wants a home town discount and if Zucc wants to stay he needs to lower his demands. As for,what His agents did and when, it is still on Sather....he could have forced the issue and demanded to negotiate....if he was going to,full court press Zuccarello,mthe press should have started a long time ago or at least should have arrived at THIS juncture a long time ago so Sayher could,have started offering him around the league sooner. Now, other GMs know that Sather is in crunch time and he has lost his,leverage with other GMs. Also, if youjtrade Zucc sooner, you give the team a better chance to see if whatever he acquires is working out or,not and if any other deals need to be made. Now, it's a toss of,the dice. STUPID!!

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:27 am EST

DREW: Hank took a sub market value deal. At least one team exec said they would offer a max year max dollar deal to him if he had hit the market. That would have been like a 10-11 mil cap hit for 7 years or whatever. He took less to stay. McD took less. Staal would have been at 6+ so he took less. Now Zucc wants full market value....but he is a team guy right...right? 4.5-5 per for 5 years would be on par with the type of "discount" other Rangers gave the team in order to stay. If now at least 3 players have signed longer term at below market value, and not bottom level guys mind you, what makes Zucc so special that he should get top dollar? I like MSL still unlike many, and if he will not take a 1.5-2 mil cut (at least) for his next deal than so long. This is a cup team, an original six cup competitor. It should be a honor to play for them, and a couple million dollars over 4-6 years shouldn't make you want to give that up.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:20 am EST

And don't think,that this stupid drama didn't screw up,the Rangers performance last night....they were brain dead and not even close to being sharp. A chance to take sole,posession of first place was lost thanks to Glennie Boy and his mind game BS.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:19 am EST

JFC: I still contend that Zucc's agent wanted nothing to do with negotiations when Zucc was not scoring. He has only really turned his game around the last 20 - 30 games with some ups and downs early in that stretch. Could you imagine him going to Sather during a 5 points in 15 games stretch asking for 5-6 mil per long term?

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:19 am EST

JFC - I hear you but some of this is on the part of Newport (Zuccarello's agency). They are also looking to get Zuccarello paid market value. I know I'm going to get some negative push back but if Henrik Lundqvist could have been signed for 7 to 7.5 million (and Sather or Gorton do not give Tanner Glass 1.5 million)' maybe the Rangers could have some flexibility. Also, I'm hearing Zuccarello wants to play with his buddies. Well, if by some miracle, the Rangers can get Zuccarello signed for 4.75 to 5 million, one of his best friends, Carl Hagelin, may be a player that is moved this summer.

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:16 am EST

This PROCESS should have been going on all season, NOT JUST 3 weeks before the deadline.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:13 am EST

That quote from AV about "if anyone thinks Glen is bluffing" means he's in on the dance too....an organizational,full court press on Mats Zuccarello. Why did it have to get to point where it becomes an ugly drama? It's so unnecessary and counter-productive. This rocks should have been going on all season, not three weeks before the deadline.

JFC31


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:04 am EST

should have added per Bob McKenzie.

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:03 am EST

Mclement just signed 2 yr ext with Carolina for 1.2 per- he's out.

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 10:01 am EST

i agree Drew like a Raffy Diaz or John Mitchell type move.

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:57 am EST

So. If the Rangers play .500 hockey the rest of the way (10-10-1) they will end with 103 points. For the Panthers who sit in 9th place to get to 103 points and pass the ragers via tiebreaker (I think they would have it) they will need to win 18 of their final 20 games. Nice that the Rangers will not have to fight for the last spot...I mean..i dong see them at .500 or the panthers winning 18 of 20.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:54 am EST

jim9k26 - I'm thinking the same thing. An unexpected name or names are coming. It might be an underwhelming name though.

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:52 am EST

after we get atkinson and lose zuc we are bigger.. Nathan Gerbe next up on the list- if only we could get Herb Brooks back to coach these smurfts. seriously we need some big bodies that actually play big for the tight checking games - i am sure they are trying but if we can't find that at reasonable prices i would rather see them stand pat let it play out and maybe give lindberg more a look and give one of the bourque brothers a shot to compete with glass, stepniak and fast for the final spots. Anyone else get the feeling that Sather is going to pull something we haven't heard or been widely speculated of out of the hat?

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:34 am EST

Wild: your updated proposal would make sense in a perfect NHL officiating world or even a near perfect NHL officiating world. However, I still see a referee and/or Toronto messing up calls on this one. Do we draw more lines on the ice as a result to go along with the trapezoid? I don't know. To be honest, a situation like last night's happens so rarely in games that I really don't see it as such a big issue. Could that goal being counted last night have changed the outcome of the game? Very possible, however, it wouldn't have covered up the fact that the Rangers (especially the top two lines) did not play well, not that you were insinuating that, of course. They have not been playing their best for awhile it finally showed on the scoreboard last night. Maybe the timing of such a loss, right before a challenging stretch against the Preds, Wings, Hawks, Islanders, and Caps, will serve as a wake up call? We can only hope.

jratelle19


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:33 am EST

BTW, only saw a bit of yesterday's game but did notice PPN...not good.

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:33 am EST

Cam Atkinson? LOL...just what this team needs - another small non-physical player!

RF4L


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:31 am EST

" Buzz: Rangers showing interest in Cam Atkinson March 1st, 2015 8:58 am The Rangers are one of the teams that is showing interest in Columbus winger Cam Atkinson. (Portzline) Atkinson, 25, is an RFA at the end of the season and has 13 goals and 12 assists this season. Last season he had 21 goals and 19 assists. He is 5-8, 174. Aaron Portzline says that a deal for Atkinson may depend on if the Rangers move Mats Zuccarello.(Portzline) Atkinson was a teammate of Chris Kreider and Kevin Hayes at Boston College. He is also very good friends with Marty St. Louis and they train together in the offseason. (Dispatch) The Bruins are believed to have a very strong interest in "

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:26 am EST

Question for York or Rabid (if you're able to answer). Is Sather still the person doing the majority of the trading negotiations with other teams or is that mainly Jeff Gorton? Does the same go for the contracts (like with Zuccarello)? I remember about 12 years ago, MSG had an "inside the blueshirts" mini series that followed the Rangers during the draft. Don Maloney and Tom Renney were doing the majority of the analysis. I'm not sure if this is common practice or a false perception on my part.

DREW


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:24 am EST

Cam Atkinson?? Cant see much reason why the NYR would have much interest in him...not sure if he addresses any NYR weakpoints other than depth forward.

RinkRat


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:19 am EST

less than 30 hours to go......get it over with....get ur dun....... Adam Rotter @AdamRotter Buzz: Rangers showing interest in Cam Atkinson http://on.sny.tv/1M0oOyM

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 9:06 am EST

jratelle19: was thinking the same thing. I came up with a simple solution. Use the face off dots and the goal line. If a player is at all in a box with the top corners being the dots, and straight down to the goal line and across it is no goal. If a player is above the dots or to the sides of them or behind the goal line there is no reason, if they don't touch the puck, that an NHL goalie can't stop it.

Wildcard


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:38 am EST

JR: Agree he is pressing and that is part of the problem but in the words of the Big Cigar "his giddy yap has gotten up and gone".

gene_carr


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:29 am EST

carr: as much as I've been giving Boyle the benefit of the doubt, his errors have become more and more glaring. We all should have known, if we followed him through his career, that he can be a liability defensively, but we also knew that his ability to generate offense from the blue line was still pretty high even having slipped a bit with age. The dilemma is, we need to pair him with someone who is rock solid on D and can keep things under control when Boyle has one of his screw ups defensively. So far we have not had that. That said, last night's ill-advised shot attempt from the point that led to the first goal we have seen too many times lately. Many of those times, our G or another player has saved Boyle from being the scapegoat. What concerns me about last night's decision to shoot is that it appeared to me that Boyle may be making errant decisions out of frustration and as a result forcing things to happen. That is something that we absolutely CANNOT have from such a crucial player at such a vulnerable position. At Boyle's age, we knew we weren't getting the same physical attributes we saw from his youth, however, we were counting on his experience and wisdom to make amends for it; a valuable commodity com playoff time. If he cannot even give us that, and now gets into bad decisions we could expect from rookies, then this team may definitely have a bad problem come postseason. I hope that this is just a passing thing because I do not see even the great Cigar Chomper being able to unload this guy by 3PM tomorrow. JMHO.

jratelle19


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:18 am EST

The most pressing need on this team is the removal of Boyle. His turnovers lead to goals against and disruption of our flow. I can not believe that Big Mac would not be an improvement. I believe he knows he does not fit this system and would agree to go elsewhere. Who would take him, I don't know.

gene_carr


Sun Mar 1 2015 8:17 am EST

Wild: interesting rule change proposal. I agree that with the rule written as it is now, a goalie is protected from giving up a "softie" from beyond the blue line like Mason did last night. The players in the zone were nowhere near the puck and it was a screwup by Mason. However, my question is how can the rule be rewritten so that nothing is left to judgment by the refs? For example, the rule rewritten the way you proposed could compel a player in the zone to obstruct the goalie's view of the shot. Although he did not touch the puck at all, the puck goes in as a result of the offside player distracting the goalie. To avoid having teams implement this tactic, you have to put a provision in the rule in which the refs must use their "objective opinions" as to whether or not the offside player was used as a distraction to the goalie from "doing his job". That, as you well know, will lead to all kinds of controversial decisions. So what do you do? Make it reviewable in Toronto? What does that lead to? Look at all the inconsistent decisions on "kicking motion" vs "not a kicking motion". I know that last night's brainfart by Mason should have cost Philly in that isolated case, but I don't feel that you can rewrite the rule in such a way that can avoid a ton of controversy. Just my two cents, if it's even worth that much :)!

jratelle19


Sun Mar 1 2015 7:55 am EST

“There’s no doubt in my mind, and I’ve made this very clear, that I’m a big Mats fan,” Rangers coach Alain Vigneault said. “That being said, history, since I’ve been here, within this organization would dictate that if Glen [Sather, general manager] doesn’t think he’s getting a deal that can satisfy both the organization and the player, he won’t hesitate to move anybody. “That’s the business part of it, I can’t do anything about it. I would say though, that if somebody thinks that Glen is bluffing, they should know that he traded his captain last year a couple of minutes before the deadline. “So it’s got to be something that he thinks is fair. In a cap era, there’s got to be a little bit — I don’t know if it’s common sense or give-and-take or whatever — but the dynamics are different. I just hope that they can get this done.”“I’m just keeping my fingers crossed that both the player and the organization can come to an agreement,” Vigneault said.

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 6:47 am EST

And does John Moore (whos played very well since rumors came out en force) and Oscar Lindberg + 2nd + 5th get you Yandle? Prob gets you close. Then all you have to do is straighren this nmc/pt business & beat of 5-6 teams bidding. If you substitute Duclair for Lindberg you could have Jeith Y andle on the PP Monday night. I dont think Sather will spring for the latter. But yiy're trading for Yandle outright. Itd be tough.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 5:12 am EST

Daily News says St Louis woul not entertain question whether hed take pay cut. Doesny mean he wont. But good.the more obstinate the better imo. Glencross; word is he asked out when Flames refused to discuss extension. Fast & D prospect Ryan Graves was on table from what Id heard Friday. If Chicago is done in the larger sweeps and Boston has a deal for a forward Rangers may have a shot along with Washington. Asked about Yandle all day yesterday. Only thing I got was may be a question about waiving nmc to come to such a deep D, are there enough minutes for him behind McD & Staal on that left side.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:41 am EST

I hope he lights it up in the POs but it's anybody's guess. I just don't know or expect anything either way; gotta wait and see. Maybe he's just having a few bad games lately; no one is good every night. I hope that's it and not a head injury thing. As for the squad they sometimes play down to the opposition but the March sked is pretty tough. Also they need Hank back; Cam is pretty average and they've been scoring big most times.

Nick


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:09 am EST

I think anyone who thinks the healthy Nash we saw all year doesnt score in the playoffs is outta their cotton-pickin mind. Jmwo.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:06 am EST

That should've read... "all about what he does in the postseason that matters"

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 2:05 am EST

Nick... I said pretty much the same thing. Well, it was more like I expected Nash to rebound during the regular season, but it's all about what he does in the regular season that really matters. JMO, but If we trade Zucc, it makes it that much harder for him.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:55 am EST

Thars not cynical Nick. Ive been around the most negative NYR fans youll find my whole life.what I think you did there is time out a cheapshot cause you see Nash is slowed since his 'neck injury", which im going to assume you figure as does most everyone else is some type of symptom from Bogisian punching him in the head. If Im right thats some dastardly shit. Before these two games, the guy has been a fuckin Hart trophy candidate all year.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:36 am EST

Maybe the Nasher realizes it's getting close to playoff time and he's rounding into form. Sorry; that's wildly cynical. But I said in October I hope he scores 50 but unless he improves that 3-in-27 PO stat, it's of no import.

Nick


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:35 am EST

LeBrun: Avs won’t be trading O’Reilly.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:35 am EST

Thought of Ryder.vhed be a good pickup. Not that we'll deal with NJ. Tomorrow is going to be busy imo. Lotta teams need big moves, they cant all wait till Monday without risking getting shut out.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:31 am EST

Hockeyy Insiderr..... Got a text from #NJDevils source confirming that #Bruins contacted them earlier today regarding Michael Ryder.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:30 am EST

Vic- don't be too worried. Petry is a righty

Messier11


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:30 am EST

Oh there ya go on Bs. Ok. Also saw they were after Gagner, whichd be a shrewd move. Sounds like 4-5 contenders are all chasing same remaining 'top' guys from among Glencross, Stewart, etc. Think under the radar there are still big moves brewing. Toronto & Carolina arent done dumping.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:21 am EST

Shawn Hutcheon......... Being told by multiple sources #NHLBruins have made a deal, which will be confirmed when all details are in place.

Rhet0ric


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:14 am EST

Theyre callin it Del Vivids revenge. MF im pretty sure you get that one ;) Sounds like Bruins-CBJs have a deal that wont be announced till morning. For Atkinson, a good little player im not sure why theyre moving. Rangers can still do everything they need to; fortify center & get more than just a body for D depth - if they even need one by monday. So a first + a big late 2nd rd dman (Dahlback or some such) for vermette. Cant say what NYR should have done till we know what they ultimately do. Premium price like Bowman said, rwntals havd grown steeper; but Hawks are better today than yesterday.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Mar 1 2015 1:11 am EST

I did have one more thought that I wanted to get out. I have a big fear that the Rangers are in on PETRY. IMHO that would be a mistake. Just ask yourself this........Why would the Oilers be interested in parting with him instead of locking him up long term? That organization is in such bad shape on D that they have been the rumored destination for many D over the last few years. If they are in such bad shape in that position (and they are) why would they be interested in moving PETRY instead of locking him up longer term a year or so ago. Again, this is another guy who has had his value drastically inflated because of his UFA status. This isn't a guy most teams would be interested in at any other time but for some reason he is mentioned as a hot commodity???? I don't buy it. STAY AWAY SATHER!!!!

Vic


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:59 am EST

As for the game tonight......I'm worried. This is another game, in a stretch of games over the last few weeks, where the Rangers have gotten little to nothing from the first 2 lines and the #1 PP unit. The STEPAN line was awful again. Just awful...... No other words to describe it. The Rangers (for the second game in a row) got offensive contributions from the 3rd and 4th line units only. MILLER had a strong game. And for all of you that have been spouting the AV hates MILLER bull I hope you took notice. AV was double-shifting MILLER to get him on the ice as much as he could in the 3rd period. And NASH............another night where he stayed as far away from the crease and traffic as possible. After last year it is hard not to be worried about where his head is right now. And finally, a lot of times plus/minus stats don't tell you the story of a game. Well, for the last two games they pretty much have.

Vic


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:57 am EST

3rd and 4th line showed up other two didn't , Boyle was beyond brutal how sather gave him 4.5/ 2 yrs and no movement clause is beyond me

jim9k26


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:47 am EST

First chance to post since the exchanges Friday about MZA. Look, this isn't a ploy. SATHER isn't playing a game with MZA. This is a process. First of all, it is clear that the Rangers don't see MZA as a $5 MIl per year player. If they did they would have resigned him to a long term deal last year when he was an RFA. Instead they got MZA to take $3.5 Mil on a 1 year deal (he didn't have much choice). I'm sure they told him to go out and prove that he was worth big bucks after last season (the first one where he really put up big numbers). He has fallen off this season and my guess is that the Rangers have no intention of paying him that kind of money. So, instead of negotiating all year (which would be a waste of time) they wait unit the deadline to give MZA an ultimatum. If you want to stay with the Rangers you need to take less money. You need to agree to $4.5 Mil (or something in that neighborhood). This is the only time when SATHER has leverage. After Monday he no longer is in control. So MZA can either accept less money or not. If the he doesn't the Rangers will try to move him by Monday. Now, if SATHER can't get good value in return he may just keep MZA for the playoff run but that really would be stupid. I don't see many places that SATHER can trade MZA to unless he is willing to look in the division/conference. Right now the best partner is still Chicago. If they are all-in on this year it may still be possible to move MZA for a package including SHAW. Now that Chicago is locked in at Center they might be willing to move him.

Vic


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:47 am EST

My guess is his agent is saying he's worth what Callahan got... And sather is saying ok and I traded him...

stevielegs


Sun Mar 1 2015 12:34 am EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 1m1 minute ago Correction: Zuke was available but not by the time I got to locker room. He spoke with Swedish media.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:49 pm EST

"Look, Zuccarello has not had a $5 million season, not even close to it. He hadn’t scored a power-play goal all year heading into Saturday night in Philadelphia, chipping in five assists, even as No. 36 has gotten the fifth most ice time on the man-advantage among club forwards."

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:47 pm EST

"It is believed the Rangers have offered Zuccarello a five- or six-year deal worth $4.5 million per, while the winger is seeking well in excess of $5 million per, perhaps up to $5.5 million. Zuccarello may be able to clear the $5 million bar as an unrestricted free agent — or may be able to get the equivalent from a team in a no-tax state, such as Florida — but it is clear he is not going to get that to remain in New York." http://nypost.com/2015/02/28/rangers-stunner-zuccarello-on-the-trading-block/

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:43 pm EST

well, besides Edmonton's Petry, a healthy scratch. But then why wait to announce?

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:39 pm EST

Bruins insiders announced a trade over two hours ago but no details. Thinking either offices are shut down, or they're waiting for game to conclude. Of the four teams still playing, only one- Ottawa, real sellers. Im guessing Boston is picking up some depth from Ottawa,

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:29 pm EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 3m3 minutes ago Zuccarello, not available after game, played 18:15, with two shots and was a minus-3

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:25 pm EST

AV needs to stop playing for the defense he wants and start playing for the defense he has.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:23 pm EST

Boyle spent time on each pairing tonight. Need to get some stable pairings. Boyle and Moore need consistent expectancy of their games.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:17 pm EST

WILD - No, he needs to throw in Stepan also!...Really, don't offend both of our intelligences with that,,.I'm talking getting a 3rd pair D-man and a 3rd liner....And you know that means prospects, picks and players like Moore, even aif you have to overpay,....

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:08 pm EST

Hospo: so Sather should move Zucc, Kreider and Hags in order to get a top 6 D and a top 9 forward? You can't force trades to happen. If other GMs say NO than you can't do anything about it.

Wildcard


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:08 pm EST

Pat Leonard..... Vigneault says he rarely says this about any part of NYRs game but their "power play got outworked tonight" - "foot speed," "puck movement"

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:04 pm EST

WILD - Sorry, that doesn't fly with me...You Just don't accept losing...Agree to disagree..

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:02 pm EST

3rd and 4th line showed up other two didn't , Boyle was beyond brutal how sather gave him 4.5/ 2 yrs and no movement clause is beyond me

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:02 pm EST

HOSPO: however if he doesn't make those trades it doesn't mean he didn't try. But if teams demand Kreider or Hags, Hayes than the trades would not really do much to help. So a lack of trades doesnt necessarilly mean Sather doesn't see a need.

Wildcard


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:59 pm EST

Also. Rule change needed. That goal early should count...I mean with a rule change. If the Rangers player made it out before it went in it wouldn't have been offsides or if he had made a save than dropped it into his own net by mistake after the Rangers tagged up it would have counted. The current rule protects goalies from giving up goals from beyond the blue line....it should be : if the offsides team doesn't touch the puck it's a live puck that can end up in the net for a goal.

Wildcard


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:59 pm EST

The only real good thing about tonight was the play of JT MILLER...great game....Hopefully that goal gets the orangotang off his back....Glad to see AV rewarding him with increased ice time also...

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:58 pm EST

Awful game for most part. bottled up most of the night no consistent zone time missed their opportunities when they did create.

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:58 pm EST

lose on a recalled goal ...when has that happened?....who called offside....?....after the goal?.. pure bs......totally different game...but they are nowhere near top form......

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:56 pm EST

I'll just throw this game in with the last 10-12 games..Soft opponent....More sloppy hockey..Inconsitent...playing half a game.....loose team defense....I'll say this, if they don't trade for AT LEAST one of a D-man and a Top 9 versatile forward, they are not serious about going for the CUP this year....Plain and simple..Sather's choice...And you can throw in dealing MZA also...

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:56 pm EST

Pissed away 2 points against a dreadful team. Ugh. Trade them all.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:54 pm EST

Aaron Portzline.... Told Cam Atkinson's camp made efforts to sign an extension w #CBJ in recent weeks. He's an RFA this summer.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:54 pm EST

Well-deserved loss. No doubt.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:53 pm EST

Two points left down the turnpike ... against 5 d

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:52 pm EST

MDZ with the game winner

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:52 pm EST

I hate to say it, but I expected to lose tonight.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:50 pm EST

Lecavlier will be out of Hockey by mid next year.

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:48 pm EST

Hospo....damn type ahead

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:47 pm EST

Hospital was thinking the same thing........

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:47 pm EST

Nice one...

NYStranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:44 pm EST

KREIDER and MSL invisible tonight...Can still make up for it....

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:40 pm EST

NHLSourcesSay..... Bruins getting Gagner or Atkinson!? Still no word out of Boston... Stay tune

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:40 pm EST

A late 1st rounder and a guy who was picked around 70th in 2011 gets Vermette?

stepunmytoe


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:40 pm EST

Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland 4m4 minutes ago Wow

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:39 pm EST

RHET - Was that YOUR list? or from elsewhere?

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:38 pm EST

Got a g and a l, can't buy 2 vowels o & a....

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:37 pm EST

The Rangers needed to get the damn puck up.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:36 pm EST

Definetely some good ES play by JT!..Finally some pressure...Need to pour it on

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:36 pm EST

Top 10 trade targets available...... 1-Jeff Petry-D (27) $3.1 Mil.....2-Erik Cole-LW(36) $4.5 Mil..... 3-Curtis Glencross-LW(32) $2.55 Mil..... 4-Zbynek Michalek-D(32) $4.0 mil......5-chris Stewart-RW(27) $4.15 mil....... 6-Mats Zuccarello-LW(27) $3.50 mil..... 7-Jay McClement-C(31) $1.0 mIl..... 8-Matt Beleskey-LW(26) $1.35 mil.....9-Cam Atkinson-RW(25) $1.150 MIL...... 10-Jan Hejda-D(36) $3.25 MIL....

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:36 pm EST

I think Doc Emrik just creamed his pants with those Mason calls

NYStranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:36 pm EST

Rangers finally showing up tonight

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:35 pm EST

We're in trouble on this one.

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:35 pm EST

Nice Backcheck by JT miller on Simmonds

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:33 pm EST

Nash has been "off" since that neck problem...not terrible, but not the same level he had before

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:33 pm EST

No one from the Rangers is going to the Bruins!

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:32 pm EST

Another useless power play

NYStranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:32 pm EST

No way Rangers trade with Boston...no way.

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:31 pm EST

Get lucic

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:30 pm EST

Hypothetical question. Would anyone do Zucc for Marchand ?

stepunmytoe


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:30 pm EST

Maybe it was Mike Knuble for Rob Dimaio? Another horrible trade for us....

NYStranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:28 pm EST

RHET - Maybe BOZAK?..EH..who knows..

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:27 pm EST

Bruins have also been rumored to be after Cole and Stewart.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:27 pm EST

we're not getting any second chances on offense...

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:25 pm EST

MFred: With you in that boat... Two or fewer we're ok, 3 or more we get shown the door....

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:25 pm EST

Hospo.... Me either. He said the tweet was sent to him earlier, so it could have been about a team that's played. Maybe they made a deal with the Flyers?

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:24 pm EST

NN: no need to stop the longevity of that record....

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:22 pm EST

Well....3 Goals again.....at a minimum....this can't be sustained.

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:19 pm EST

RHET - Other thean the West Coast games, Rangers-Flyers is the only one tat had been going...HMMM....Just can't see MZA to BOS

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:17 pm EST

MF: Middleton for Hodge.

DOUBLEN


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:17 pm EST

Boyle is a fucking train wreck.

jratelle19


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:16 pm EST

when was the last time we traded with Boston?

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:15 pm EST

Oops! Should have posted this part first.... HockeyyInsiderr....... Being told #Bruins trade announcement is being delayed because the player involved is currently playing.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:12 pm EST

Hockeyy Insiderr........ Zuccarello is another guy the #Bruins have been inquiring about. Could be a possibility. #NYR

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:11 pm EST

Who do we go for now? I hope we don't just make a trade to make a trade ......Hospo... .The Coyotes have said all along that they wanted picks for this years draft, so we were out. Unless maybe we wanted to give up our 2 best prospects(which would be insane).

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:10 pm EST

Sloppy play all over. All of a sudden Nash looks slow. Any word on when the king is coming back?

barto


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:10 pm EST

depends on the prospect

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:08 pm EST

2 prospects is as good if not better than a 1st and a prospect...

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:02 pm EST

Same Flyer team that got whacked this week by bot TOR and CAR..This Ranger team needs to get it's damn act in gear already..More crappy hockey agasint crappy teams

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:59 pm EST

What's with Girardi's weak ass play lately? He reminds me of Roszival with his shitty clears and getting pushed around the crease. Talbot may have saved the game right there on that breakaway.

NYStranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:58 pm EST

Hospo; If we only had that first rounder then.........that killed it...

stepunmytoe


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:52 pm EST

STEP - I think it was always a 1st and a prospect......We just didn't have the first and wh y People might have been thhrwoing in previous firsts like Duclair or MILLER (Me) imnstead

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:51 pm EST

Dinty Moore can't hit the net lucky goal

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:50 pm EST

DOUBLEN - Got some inside info there NN? :) I don't know, a 4th line FO center just doesn't feel tight to me with MOORE already on board..A 3rd-4th liner that also palys some W like Letestu or Bridziak? We'll see

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:50 pm EST

Hospo; Seems he went for less than what many here were willing to part with. JMHO.

stepunmytoe


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:48 pm EST

Can sather get a 1st and a d man for Bazookerella ?

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:47 pm EST

STEP -WHo Knows? and does it matter?

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:45 pm EST

RE Vermette ; And we were ready to give up what for Vermette ?

stepunmytoe


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:44 pm EST

Still have a feeling it's going to be McClement..Carolina is in NY; could join the team tomorrow, makes too much sense and he is on a cheap contract for the rest of the year. Don't think it would take much to get him.

DOUBLEN


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:44 pm EST

MF - No prob, other fish in the Sea...

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:43 pm EST

Vermin to shitcago

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:43 pm EST

VERMWTTE to CHI for a 1st and DAHLBECK

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:43 pm EST

Wed Feb 25 2015 9:43 pm EST After hearing about KANE, me thinks Chicago would prefer a rental & is the favorite to land Vermette.... sorry Hospo, it's in the Tea Leaves........ mf

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:42 pm EST

Prospect and a first in this years draft from the Hawks for Vermette.

Wildcard


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:42 pm EST

HAH..The 4th line and MOORE! I'll take it

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:41 pm EST

Hospo: John Moore gets your posts down on the ice

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:41 pm EST

What trade fishing slow boat is sather on? ...wow DINTY MOORE GOAL

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:40 pm EST

WILD - Yep..VERMETTE for a 1st and a prospect to CHI..

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:40 pm EST

JFC: a team that knows they want/need cap space for next season...like the Hawks, they need to shed money for NEXT season. Course there are not many of those teams. But still. That's who would give to get him or really any decent UFA to be.

Wildcard


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:39 pm EST

The Kreider; Let's trade JT for Higgins !!!!!

stepunmytoe


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:37 pm EST

Vermette today Chicago pending trade call

Wildcard


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:37 pm EST

MILLER hadn't scored since DEC? Get this clown outta here.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:29 pm EST

BRUINS have supposedley made a deal with AZ..Might be SAM GAGNER

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:22 pm EST

At least HAYESMAKER shoots the puck.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:21 pm EST

Great PP.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:20 pm EST

MF - Whoever can compliment Boyle becasue I think Moore's a goner...

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:18 pm EST

Hey Doc Emrick, Boxcar Hospodar played for both teams also!!!

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:18 pm EST

JFC - I keep him no matter what instead of blowing a chance at the Cup..If i lose him, I lose him and use the money another way,,,

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:10 pm EST

Hospo: would you like a LHD or a RHD?

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:09 pm EST

How much can Sather hope to get when Zucc is going to be a UFA? Or does Sather think he can just let AV move Hayes or whoever up,to 1st line left wing and play musical chairs with the other 3 lines? Seriously, what can the Rangers get for Zucc that at minimum would be a wash stats/on-ice wise....what team is going to say, " hey, we'll give up a good player knowing Zuccarello will then have no reason to not test the market?

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:07 pm EST

I know I shouldn't focus on the Hags-Hayyes-Miller line, because i've been told that's wrong, but thought they looked good and played well..Could have had more goals.....Don't like the recent trend in NASH..Both BOYLE and MOORE with Mistakes you can't make this late in the season.....I'm fianlly drifting over to DEFENSE FIRST int the trade dept..Hey, I'm slow!.., but i want a steady , simple, physical guy if he's out there...Still want that versatile third liner also..!

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:00 pm EST

Stay tuned for Mr. Eloquence (JR) during intermission.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:56 pm EST

MCDONAUGH with the BOYLE.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:51 pm EST

KREIDER - FOr me, it is...Be so foolish to not do everything in your power to keep ZUCC even if ti takes to Jun

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:49 pm EST

ZUCC will be missed THIS YEAR ... when we're trying to win the Cup. Isn't that enough?

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:44 pm EST

the thing many don't seem to realize about the possibility of trading Zucc is that the rangers will be sigining MSL. He will cost less and for less years than zucc. zucc will be at least 5 and 5. MSL might go for 2 years. they have duclair, Buchnevich, and Tambelini in the wings. all less money. zucc can bring back another need. zucc will be missed but for how long?

KIS


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:40 pm EST

Bad on Boyle..But Hagss slow on the Backcheck....Made up for it..MILLER TIMNE..finally!!Good play by Hags too...Hpopefully this opens the flood gates for JT! He needed that

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:39 pm EST

JT..... been getting robbed lately. Good for him !

stepunmytoe


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:37 pm EST

I hate Boyle !!!

stepunmytoe


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:37 pm EST

BOYLE sucks. It'sthat simple.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:35 pm EST

Glass needs a hat trick tonight. So we can trade him to a sucker :?)

stepunmytoe


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:30 pm EST

GLASS = useless

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:27 pm EST

Exactly right, THE....I said it earlier, if Sather trades Zuccarello, they are not serious about winning The Cup because there is no wayntheynare gonna eliminate their 1st line LW, the ying to Brassard's yang and the guy who keeps the locker room loose and focused and think you can somehow pull everything back together in 6 weeks.

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:26 pm EST

Unreal. What a goofy play that was.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:23 pm EST

Staal with Boyle

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:23 pm EST

Holy Moly roly stepan, no goal

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:23 pm EST

Phil Niekro with the knuckle ball, outside of the strike zone, no goal

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:16 pm EST

Guess veenyo heard the wall and switched Klein and boyle ...

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:07 pm EST

Trading ZUCC would mess up the chemistry of this team big time. Just use him as a rental. Shore up the third defensive pairing and 4th line and call it quits.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 8:01 pm EST

@AGrossRecord #NYR: Nash-Brassard-Zucc Kreider-Stepan-St. Louis Hagelin-Hayes-Miller Glass-DMoore-Stempniak; McDonagh-Girardi Staal-Boyle JMoore-Klein

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 7:52 pm EST

Weise prototypical forward for Torts system which goes to show just how bad a judge of ability Torts was. He managed to trade or waive Weise twice on two different teams. At least Weise suffered less than those Torts liked.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 7:44 pm EST

The only things that scare me about Boston are Rask and the condition of Nash's melon.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 7:39 pm EST

Nick: We'll beat Boston

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 7:36 pm EST

Canes! Okay now we gotta win this one tonight. Of course if first in the conference means we get Boston? Not loving that. I'm for the Caps or NYI. Or actually Florida, but that's unlikely.

Nick


Sat Feb 28 2015 7:26 pm EST

Dale Weise to Malhotra for Canadiens first goal. I liked Weise when he got some time here. Too bad he didn't stick. Surprised he didn't, seems like a real Torts type player at the time.

stepunmytoe


Sat Feb 28 2015 7:25 pm EST

Good old Butchie.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 7:11 pm EST

BOB - Did he effin really? Too funny..

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 7:07 pm EST

Nick: He did. Of course, he probably meant like the Brooklyn Nets uniforms. This dude definitely took one head shot too many.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 7:02 pm EST

Now come on Bob! Did he really say that? If so ... he should have ditched that leather helmet way sooner.

Nick


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:58 pm EST

Howie: Next year the Islanders 3rd jerseys will be black. Butch: That's right Howie, the uniforms will look to fit in with Brooklyn's population. You cannot make this stuff up!

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:53 pm EST

It's $110 for a stratosphere seat in Ed Snider John Galt Arena and that POS has enough dough ... plus there's a small very small possibility the boys could lose, and I don't want to witness that. :-)

Nick


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:45 pm EST

So does sather let veenyo dress bazookerella ? ... Want to send his agent a message?

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:45 pm EST

Wild were giving up 3 Goals a game over the last 14! A recipe for disaster of which Boyle is a huge component.

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:40 pm EST

Lindberg is on the ice.................. for Hartford.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:40 pm EST

NICK - Hey man, what's mine is yours! You're down Philly way, aren't you? get yourself to the game!

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:39 pm EST

Bob, if we can get Yandle for Moore, Jessiman ... er, McIlrath and a pick, where do I sign? And do they need a ride to the airport?

Nick


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:38 pm EST

Brad Malone- bigger faster feistier than McClement also plays both wing/center pokes one in - wouldn't mind him as cheaper alternative play 4th line role

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:38 pm EST

Brad Malone- bigger faster feistier than McClement also plays both wing/center pokes one in - wouldn't mind him as cheaper alternative play 4th line role

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:32 pm EST

Fred, I appropriated that adjective from Hospo, from way back in the Messier II days ...

Nick


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:27 pm EST

Because San Jose & Boyle know each other well...SJ needs to make the PO's & Boyle may be on of their best options.... If they'll take him and we can get better, I'll look at any option..

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:26 pm EST

I said 2 years ago we should've signed Stepan long term. We would've saved quite a bit per season, but Sather is always penny-wise and pound foolish.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:22 pm EST

San Jose just got out from under Boyle, why would they go back? We only have him bc they decided to move on.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:21 pm EST

Stepan an RFA but still a premiere center in this league. His UFA years are going to cost us more than AAV of 6 million. He'd get that just using O'Reilly as comparable but it looks like Step is going to be a better player than OReilly I think he gets more in this contract if you want to lock him up long term not just a bridge contract that will cost us more in the long term.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:21 pm EST

San Jose is on their way to not make the playoffs, they have plenty of room for Dan Boyles salary ... http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20142015&type=DIV

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:20 pm EST

Mcelment goal number 2 tonight- go get Glen..

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:18 pm EST

After the especially unsuccessful 2004 campaign, the Rangers traded most of their high-priced veterans; Leetch was traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs just prior to the trade deadline for prospects Maxim Kondratiev, Jarkko Immonen, a first-round pick in the 2004 draft, which became Kris Chucko (pick was later traded to the Calgary Flames), and a second-round pick in 2005, which became Michael Sauer. This is why I will always hate Sather! Leech should have retired a Ranger!

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:16 pm EST

CAPS sign Tim Gleason http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=755611&navid=nhl:topheads

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:12 pm EST

Fred: statistically Boyle is the BEST on the team when it comes to shots for and against and shot attempts for and against. I think he looks worse than he is. I mean, the Rangers out attempt and out shoot their opponents when he is on the ice.

Wildcard


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:09 pm EST

I'd like to hear that Sather signed Zucc for $5.25mill for 5 years and Stepan to an avg cap hit of $5.75mill for 6years.... That's 11mill and a big shot in the arm for the Rangers & their fans.... RF, still got the bong??? ;-)

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:09 pm EST

vermette minus 2 15 min into the first..has yet to impress me. Any Boyle does have no movement clause no details listed though, would be interesting if Sather approaches him, doesn't seem a fan of AV.

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:08 pm EST

Mess... I've been reading all season long that this was the Rangers plan for Buch.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:07 pm EST

I've seen 5 games this year and I have to say Boyle has been a TOTAL LIABILITY every time. This was a bad signing!

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:07 pm EST

I wonder if the Buchnevich rumor is a leak designed to put more pressure on MZA

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:04 pm EST

IMO, Staal is going to be Staal with whomever he is paired. Stale's o-game has diminished greatly, seems to come at the expense of his much more valuable shutdown game, which is one of the best in the league. You put Staal with the defender whose game you most want to improve, not the other way around. So do you want to free up Klein or Boyle more? That is debateable, but I think Boyle because even though both can be effective offensively, Boyle has historically had a higher upside, and Klein can do considerably well on defense. Cant say that about Boyle. IMO it should be Staal/Boye and ????/Klein. Moore or pickup. Not a statement on production or minutes, just on what kind of game defensive partners create together, who's more responsible/effective with whom.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:59 pm EST

trading for Yandle and moving Boyle in a separate deal THIS deadline would be spectacular. If any GM capable of that kind of wheelin, its Sather, like him or hate him. Its a tall order, but maybe with Yandle and Petry off the market, teams get desperate, someone like Detroit bites. OTOH, Boyle costs no prospects right now, his hard-to-move contract expires the same day as Yandle's does. Signing Yandle after next season probably costs not much more than if we traded for him and then re-signed him. Yandles 40 puts in 62 games is 0.65/game. Boyle's 15 in 43 is 0.35/game, many of those games were either with flu or recently broken hand. Last season was healthier for Boyle, was 0.48 points per game, went 0.57/game in the playoffs. Yandle has been healthy all season, if Im not mistaken. How much is potentially that extra 0.2-0.3 points per game worth this postseason and next? Miller Hags and a 2016 1st?

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:56 pm EST

RF4L.... It didn't work for me at first either, try this....http://www.hockeyrodent.com/MESSAGEBOARD?SNAP=Y&BUST=123&D=102.12651.215#MSGSNAP

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:54 pm EST

Hockey Buzz..... Glencross as well looks close. Would be shocked if that gets to tomorrow. Boston and Chicago big players for both

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:54 pm EST

One of our problems on defense has been who to pair with BOYLE.. Yesterday a bunch of scenarios where offered out, and it ended with, that Boyle played best when paired with Staal."" I ask, "has Staal played best when paired with Boyle??"" I'd like to hear the concensus here because Staal needs to be outfitted so that he can play his best..... Unfortunately, JMoore has not molded himself to be the best of our LHD to play with Boyle...... YANDLE: If we can fit him cap-wise, which I believe we can, we'd have Girardi / Mcd..... Staal / Boyle or Staal Klein.... Klein / Yandle, or Boyle / Yandle...... As for dollars for next year, trade Dan Boyle, promote McIrath... Keeps our LHD & RHD balanced, the money is basically a wash, and we get much younger in the sense that Yandle is 10 years younger than Boyle & McIlrath is 1.5 years younger than JMoore.....

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:53 pm EST

Link not working Rhet...

RF4L


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:52 pm EST

The Hockey Rodent....... Interesting take on the reason why Zuc's agent is purportedly pushing so hard for big payday: http://bit.ly/1AGWUnI Involves MZA's backers

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:48 pm EST

Mess: Easily the former but with the caveat that McI makes the bottom 6 defense; someone has to be wiling to drop the gloves on this team.

RF4L


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:47 pm EST

I don't see how Yandle fits unless Boyle goes and how likely is that to happen? Not likely. Not that I would mind it - I've not been impressed with Boyle and to date he's playing as I feared he might. I will give him credit for not shying away from the physical aspect of the game which is what we know MSL is doing and one big reason why (IMO) MSL has struggled so much.

RF4L


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:47 pm EST

Miller/Lindberg/Fast as a 4th line rather than Glass/Moore/Stempniak trims almost 4 million in cap room. Which one would you rather have next season?

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:45 pm EST

another casualty of MZA/Stepan next season is likely to be Dom Moore. We paid him this season for a repeat of last season and we didn't get that. Maybe that was bc of minus Boyle and Dorsett, but Boyle and Dorsett aren't coming back. Wingers next season likely to be Miller and Fast. If he cant be a top 4C with them, its time to move on to Lindberg.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:45 pm EST

goals stands for Mclement - now 2 goals in last three - he's hot now.

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:44 pm EST

If I had to bet one way or the other MZA signs/doesn't sign before the deadline, I'd put my money on the former. Suspect this is Sather upping the pressure. As some of you have noted today, Sather seems to relish playing hardball when it comes to negotiations, especially, ironically enough, when it appears the player wants to be a Ranger and is willing to offer a discount, which seems to fit MZA (but didn't Callahan).

RF4L


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:42 pm EST

Yeah well, they still best get a Horcroft/Letestu type to help with FOs.maybe they even still snag Bozak if Leads are that desoerate. but if they deal Lindberg we have only a Mueller if Dom Moore or somebody else goes down. Ive been increasingly excited abiut the kids on the 3/4. But even in emergency, JT cannot play center in the POs. He cant.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:41 pm EST

our man jay mclement just tied up islander game. maybe gets call back

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:36 pm EST

Id love to get Yandle. I don't know how it could ever work to have 5/6 D making > 4.5 mill, and of course i don't want to gut the youth on our bottom six or Duke/Buch/Tambellini. I mean, if Yandle in, I think then both MSL, MZA gone, probably Hags too, and Stepan contract will be more expensive over time. That, and Yandle a UFA after next season so have to open the vault to keep that corps together. Not impossible, but you see it requires several other difficult moves. We'd have maybe the deepest D in the league, in front of one of the best goaltenders. Forward depth takes a big hit.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:34 pm EST

Great point, RABID.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:33 pm EST

Also agree on Yandle.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:30 pm EST

Might have another Iginla scenario with Vermette/CHI/BOS. Deals done & teams still pitching. Meanwhie, they let this guy out on the ice? Thats crazy.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:26 pm EST

Also agree on Yandle.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:25 pm EST

Yandle's been best bang for buck all along. We get nothing from Moore/Hunwick. Add a 50-pt player, especially the PP, its huge. Hayes has made production at 3C less a concern.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:21 pm EST

The more I think about it and the more I read this board............the more I like the idea of spending the assets we have to trade for adding Yandle and going with what we already have up front.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:21 pm EST

"The fact of the matter is I believe'? Lol? That one's straight out of the Sean Hannity handbook.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:14 pm EST

Rhet- even in hindsight, Id still try harder to keep Cally and then Boyle before Stralman. Unless on the LHS, still need that PPQB and Stralman looks great offensively, especially first half of this season. But he isn't PPQB, isn't the hard and accurate shot from the point that we needed, that we hoped for in Boyle. Maybe re-sign him (for less $ that TB but match term) and then get a puck mover for LHS. But then McIlrath permanently blocked from big club. Unless Boyle is an absolute playoff hero, have to think that he will be available next season and we will be looking for another PPQB. Maybe Green this time. Maybe Yandle. Heck, maybe MDZ. But only if we can get out from under Boyle, which is a tall order. Hopefully, he pulls it together.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:11 pm EST

Keep in mind Yandles had some bigger years than Vermette. I can understand if Sather decides he cant afford center he wants. Do they nip & tuck with a Letestu. But get Yandlr or dome big piece. Theyre not good enough. Not quite.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:08 pm EST

the fact of the matter is I believe Miller Fast Lindberg Hayes know AVs system, are young, fast, (hard-hitting, for Miller and Fast) players. Id take them in a pinch over a mercenary. Those don't always work out as well as everyone would hope

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:07 pm EST

Hindsight being 20/20... we should have kept Stralman.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:07 pm EST

RR--yeah, The Duke would have to be in there too. Wonder who has a higher ceiling.....The Duke or The Buuch.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:06 pm EST

I believe in this team more than to say were screwed if we don't acquire new players

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:05 pm EST

Rhet- if anywhere, thats where Id improve. But Id prefer that AV decide to work with what he has. Moore is young but experienced, skilled, worked well for us last post-season. Moore/Boyle isn't the best asset management. AV seems to be forcing the situation, a la playing MDZ on RHS.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:04 pm EST

Its fine to prefer to stand pat. But to say screw now till july? No. They play for now. Bob, haha...

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:03 pm EST

JB ‏@JB_HockeyTalk..... Antoine Vermette is on the ice for warm ups.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:03 pm EST

Rhet- also, cant buy out the 35+ ones for meaningful cap relief.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:03 pm EST

McIlrath, JMoore and a #2 for Yandle?

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:02 pm EST

MESS.... i would shore up the defense, trade Glass and take my chances.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:01 pm EST

none of the big name trade breakers confirming Vermette. I may have breathed that sigh of relief too soon.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:57 pm EST

Yep. Because I watch the salary cap, and the context of competitive bidding, I understand that Vermette would have cost us valuable players and we wouldn't have been able to keep him after July. Bozak is a somewhat different story, but at this point, given the going rates and the recent performance of Hayes, Miller, Lindberg, eminent return of Fast, Id prefer to stand pat.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:57 pm EST

Mark Letestu......come on down!

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:57 pm EST

Michael Grosso..... Vermette has NOT been traded yet

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:56 pm EST

Still awaiting confirmation/details of Vermette trade.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:55 pm EST

Hawks probably elated that Richards is just their third line C

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:54 pm EST

Nyr just lost out on best center available & youre happy about a message board Messier? And it diesnt mean they werent in there pitching. Im logging off.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:51 pm EST

My attitude with MSL has everything to do with wide-open nets & big whiffs by the player. I want a different sniper. Heard obe just arrived from Russia! Great. Bugger younget cheaper & better. Msl savings & cap up & glass & stemp not back if it becomes necessary.hes only on one year deal anyway. Plenty of room.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:50 pm EST

Finally. Vermette got too much play on here for never even close to being a Ranger

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:49 pm EST

NHLSourcesSay...... *Breaking News* #Hawks acquire Vermette from the #Coyotes, details to follow #NHLTradeDeadline #NSS #NHL

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:48 pm EST

MF... You can not renegotiate NHL contracts, you can only buy them out. Written in stone.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:47 pm EST

Creasy........ Hearing #Hawks are closing in on Vermette. #Coyotes

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:46 pm EST

RR: I just did the numbers in very easy to follow sequence... We had to give Hank $8.5 mill? Here's how to make it work: Renegotiate Hank to $8.milll, Nash to $7.5mill, Stall to $5.5mill, Girardi to $5.25mill..... This frees up $1,250,000 per year..... That'll get us Stepan, Zucc, Hags signed, and JT, Fast, Lindy signed, but won't get you MSL or the 6th & 7th D'man signed..... Boyle would have to go.....

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:46 pm EST

moving Glass is a nice start, but it doesn't suddenly create an extra 10 million in cap room!

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:46 pm EST

Hockey Buzz Eklund..... "Vermette sounds close" ....I'm guessing that means tomorrow then :)

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:44 pm EST

who thought MSL would be signed by January? I don't remember reading that a single time. MSL is the type of player you can wait until camp to sign, like Selanne, Alfredsson. He is fairly tied to the area, this team and wants to stay, will take a hit to do it, as long as he isn't disrespected by management. From what AV and Sather say about MSL often, what you say doesn't make any sense. A big reason for the MSL appeal has to do with the cap and his relative value for what he reportedly is willing to play for next season. So maybe your attitude about MSL is just from your unwillingness to contemplate cap restrictions.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:39 pm EST

mf- Phoenix is trying to pare salary. They will be a floor team if they can help it next season. They're willing to keep Yandle bc his output is very high for his salary. Vermette, OTOH, they won't be re-signing but the bidding is so high and wide they will get a return. They'll take a high enough one for Yandle, but they won't be retaining salary on either contract. Their primary goal is to get rid of as much salary as possible. It'd cost us maybe 6 million/year to re-sign Vermette but his cap hit until July is a reasonable 3.75. After July, all bets off on Vermette. Arizona cant retain a penny on what we (or any other team) would sign him at.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:39 pm EST

whatever trades are made or not made by Monday this roster will be significantly different next year

DREW


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:34 pm EST

and of course St Louis is never getting extended an offer. I dont even think he'll require a low-ball, thatd be embarrassing. They'll just tell his agent they'll get back to him & never do. remember how everyone thought MSL would be re-upped by january? Yeah, not so much.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:31 pm EST

Very cool, Krieder. He should watch his ass just the same. They're disgusting animals down there.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:30 pm EST

I dont worry about cap stuff. Sather takes care of that for me. The flip side is every once in a while he has to pull a manuever -LIKE THE ONE TODAY WITH ZUC - to keep salaries just a step behind inflation. its why all our guys are signed under market. again, not that hard to understand. its been going on for years. If Sather needs to next year he cuts loose a Glass for some flex. DONE!

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:27 pm EST

My biggest fan!: https://twitter.com/coffeemort/status/571761640003125248

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:26 pm EST

If we are willing to include an extra 2nd tier prospect/s, we can always ask our trade partner to eat some salary.... Just pointing out that there's more than one way to Cap compliance.....

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:25 pm EST

seems like Sather is willing to trade MZA over a 725k/year difference. There is not room for a 5 million/year player, much less TWO of them. MZA ask not cutting into MSLs year-to-year, < $3 million ask. He's cutting into the two multi-year RFA contracts were trying for this off season. Its MZA vs Stepan, and Hags to a degree. MZA wants 5 per year thats an increase of 1.5 over five years. Stepan getting maybe 6-7 million/year deal. Thats an increase on cap hit of 3 TO 4 MILLION/YEAR. Hags probably looking for 4 million/year, thats an increase of 1.5 million/year. Stepan and Hags probably adding 5.5 million to next year's cap hit. MSL going from a 5.6 million/year cap hit to somewhere between 1-3 million cap hit for next year. Thats a DECREASE of about 4 MILLION from cap. MZA money coming from flexibility for Stepan, Hagelin. Not from MSL. NOT creating room for Vermette or Yandle, (about 10 million for the pair, next season) certainly not both. Especially when all you've got are kids making nothing going the other way. It a salary cap no-go. I cannot spell it out any simpler than that.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:19 pm EST

OOH OOW.......I'm taking my WooHoo back. Buchnevich not confirmed.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:18 pm EST

is the buchnevich confirmed? last i saw was they were trying, if so gives additional options for rangers if zuc gets moved or someone gets hurt. In that same article brooks says Lindberg and Shesterkin have gained interest from other teams

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:16 pm EST

Brooks; "We’re told that the Rangers’ prospects who have provoked the most interest on the market are Oscar Lindberg, the 23-year-old center who made his NHL debut against the Flames on Tuesday; and Igor Shesterkin, the 19-year-old goaltender selected 118th overall last year and who played this year for St. Petersburg of the KHL".

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:15 pm EST

Some numbers: We have signed contracts for $52,375,000 for next year.... "IF" the Cap Stays the same at $69,000,000 we have $16,625,000 in cap room.... Out-source TGlass ($1.450mill) & Stempniak ($900K) gives us $18,975,000 in cap room....... "IF" Stepan, Zucc, & Hags, costs us $15 million, we're left with $3,975,000...... JTMiller, Fast, Lindberg, are going to cost us $3million.......This leaves us with $975K left to work with..... This totals 12 forwards signed and, 5 defensemen are signed..... MSL is NOT included in these figures, nor are a 6th & or a 7th D'man... It would surprise me if Sather has NOT reached out to Stepan's Camp, and Hagelins Camp, to get a feel for the kind of numbers they have in mind...... Ryan O'Reilly is getting $6mill, will Stepan expect the same??? ..... Girardi $5.5mill, Staal $5.7mill, Brassard $5mill, anyone here think ZUCC should accept less than $5mill ??? ..... If we can win The Cup this year, or even make it to the SCF's, we can then ask D.Boyle & MSL to move on.... end of Cap Dilemma....

mf


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:15 pm EST

So much conflicting info being pushed out by beat writers, rumor "expert", and fans alike...Who the hell knows? Still think MZA gets resigned...but IF HE GOES...How bout this foe one stop shopping....MZA, MOORE, Allen and 2nd rounder for Yandle, Vetrmette and Korpedo..OK, back to the Sggy Bottom Boys...

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:11 pm EST

WOOHOOO....... BlueshirtNation..... Pavel Buchnevich heading to Hartford. #NYR #NWP -Shane

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:10 pm EST

in case anyone hasn't seen this - The Rangers have “never once” inquired about Tyler Bozak but the Leafs have come to the Rangers “a number of times” offering him up. (NY Post)

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:09 pm EST

Dineen.... Have you heard anything about Lindberg tonight for the Pack?

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:07 pm EST

well, there ya go Bob! Not often people get it :) Just look how full of it they are right now; it's ALL choreography; Sather knew Cally had to go after Tortorella fried him. MSL was just best player they could get. NO comparision to Zuc (though I did hear some nasty negotiating stuff Id rather not think about right now) "@stevezipay Follow AV: "I would say that if somebody thinks Glen is bluffing they should know that he traded his captain last year couple minutes b4 deadline"

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:06 pm EST

FRED..... Unless a trade is imminent, we can't do an emergency recall on Lindberg without an injury or illness. We also don't have the cap room to bring him up without sending someone else down. The Pack has a game tonight, so I'm sure they would make an announcement soon (if it's happening).

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:04 pm EST

RR--I plead guilty to not reading backwards very often. But it seems to me that keeping Vermette would require the jettisoning of Zucc at least. As for MSL........he will be a Ranger next year, be that smart or dumb. I am sure Maloney wants Duke to go with Domi. Probably wants Big Mac too, which I don't mind so long as Vermette does not end up being a rental. Replacing John Moore with Keith Yandle? That would be nice.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:02 pm EST

you mortgage your house.....32 times! :)

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:00 pm EST

after letting MSL go, where do you get the other 5 million to sign Vermette

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:00 pm EST

Oh, my bad Rhet!! Thought it said "for Cole" hahaha....

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:00 pm EST

time will tell the cost, but looking more like draft day for Yandle.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:59 pm EST

and Bob, no, for me I resign vermette and say adios to MSL. Hayes & Vermette both play wing. Maybe Kreider-Step-Hayes next year, Vermette's your 3C. Maybe Vermette moves up, Hayes continues to groom at center. But you dont have to worry if Duke or Buch can handle top 6 if you show MSL out. you have a legitimate top 6er in house. I think Vermette you might even get on a 3 yr deal. gotta get him here first.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:57 pm EST

think Stars are very very close to Cole. Isnt he already on their team? :)

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:56 pm EST

dont you read the overnight stuff Bob? laid it out several times. My best guess is Maloney would want Duclair, McIlrath, and our two number 2's. But I think he'd have to choose, Miller in the mix among forward, Moore among D. For BOTH guys. could be extra parts, like Id said, we have housekeeping to do in Hartford. The Bourque kid deserves a look somewhere. Prominent family like that, Id be surprised either GM wants to be seen as holding a kid hostage. Kristo, Lindberg who AZ drafted originally. So many possibilities. The cap? best I know, it'd be slashed by almost 80%, their salaries. for this year. After that is after that. Best I know, we had 2.8 before ditching Duke. So it's right there. But one of JT/Duke, one of MCI/Moore. Plus picks. better PP. better 3rd line. Better everything.jmwo.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:55 pm EST

cole is kind of guy rangers need big fast physical plays either wing, play up and down the lines

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:52 pm EST

NHLSourcesSay...... Also have confirmation the Hawks WILL NOT TRADE Patrick Sharp, lay those rumours to rest #NHL #NSS #NHLTradeDeadline

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:50 pm EST

this time is interesting to say the least. I can't see bozek here he's decent faceoff guy has some decent wheels, ok offensively, not really physical, he's a third liner and sometimes second liner at best, vermette is way overrated been watching a lot of arizona the last month he is ok, and would say hes not even close to best forward on his team night after night. Would definitely like another guy who can take draws and play any forward spot, still think the rangers need some grinding size for long run and another big d man. would go the cheaper route than overpaying for these guys. Don't want Zuc to leave would rather he left as free agent after playoffs- hes everything in a player, hard worker, hits, a bit chippy when needed and great vision, if he shot more he'd have 20-25. but the speculation is fun..

jim9k26


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:50 pm EST

NHLSourcesSay........ #Stars closing in on trading Erik Cole, more to come... #NHL

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:31 pm EST

If we were to trade for Yandle they're taking back Boyle. I don't give a crap about the Left/Right thing :)

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:27 pm EST

Okay RR......what could the Rangers send to the Coyotes to bring back Yandle and Vermette? All of the few decent prospects they have plus John Moore? How do they fit that under the cap? Vermette would just be a rental then?

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:24 pm EST

Chris Kuc..... Patrick Sharp's agent, Rick Curran, spoke with GM Stan Bowman on Thursday and was assured #Blackhawks have "no intention" of trading Sharp.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:22 pm EST

Ivdont brlieve much of anything its gotten so crazy, excrpt my own intuition. Over 3 months ago MF & I kicked around Yandle Vermette.. cause if yiu need a center and LHD, theyre the best guys out there. Youre striving for a Cup, youve got a distressed franchise, weve got plenty if prospects they need. Id maintain I still think thats what theyre angling for. The Zuc stuff is SOP. Did it to Girardi, Cally, Staal. But AV didnt like CAlly. He LUVS Zuc.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:20 pm EST

Nick....you just have to post more often.....the decomposing MSL....yet another classic in WALL lore!

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:17 pm EST

Heard Lindberg was called up.

MelvilleFred


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:14 pm EST

Allegedly, Fast needs one more full practice before he comes back(don't know if that changes or not because of Zucc)..... RR.... I saw Forsberg for Zucc trade rumor.... no real source as far as I can tell. Ranger fans making up stuff and other fans heckling us.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:05 pm EST

Some buzz outta Nahville about Forsberg...

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:03 pm EST

Unless Jesper Fast is ready to go for tonight, I would assume Zucc is playing, right? I haven't heard of any callups....

Ranger47


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:02 pm EST

David Pagnotta..... Hearing from multiple league sources there is A LOT of interest in AZ's Zbynek Michalek. One categorized his situation as "hot" right now..... Per Andy Strickland....... Word is Buffalo looking for 2nd and high-end prospect for Chris Stewart #sabres

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:53 pm EST

I had to filter our my fellow Ranger fans on Twitter. I just couldn't take them anymore. Losing their collective minds over Zucc. #Headache

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:52 pm EST

Thats the C word? Oh...

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:48 pm EST

Darned phone "have" not "gave"

DREW


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:47 pm EST

The Rangers can take the stance that Zuccarello is a rental. They gave him for the run and try and sign him in the off season.

DREW


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:47 pm EST

Where's Hospo? Is someone talking him off the ledge?

Ranger47


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:42 pm EST

Rich Chere..... Looks like Martin Havlat is a scratch tonight. http://nj.com/devils

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:42 pm EST

I would hate to lose Zucc for this year's cup run. Doesn't mean we might not get to resign him in the offseason when we know more about the actual cap numbers?!

Ranger47


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:41 pm EST

Sorry guys I had spray too soon meeting between trading for Zucc is probably a team looking for help in the playoffs. Why would they give up an asset that can help?

DREW


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:40 pm EST

Trading Zucc is also complicated because the acquiring team is getting Zucc as a pending UFA. So the Rangers wouldn't necessarily get a player to help them for the playoff run. Which is where the Rangers are.

DREW


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:40 pm EST

Andrew Gross...... Mats Zuccarello on the Rangers: "This is my team."

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:40 pm EST

Nice that Talbot is "standing up" for Zucc, but if I was Sather I would be none to happy with him! Agree with what Talbot said. I love Zucc and would hate to see him go....

Ranger47


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:36 pm EST

Now it's getting interesting . The word that comes to mind of course is the "C" word- chemistry. Zucc is a big part of this team's chemistry, creativity on the power play, helping both Nash and Brassard (career year)to their best NYR seasons. Business is Biz, and there are some big names to be had out there as well. No guarantees on whoever comes back in a deal for Zucc will fit well in this system or with the players we have. Also, Zucc alone won't necessarily get a big name, so who else departs besides a John Moore? One thing is certain, it's gonna be a nail biter.

puckyou


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:36 pm EST

Christ if Slats deals Zuke to save dough for the decomposing MSL, then I don't know what.

Nick


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:34 pm EST

Andrew Gross....... Talbot on Zucc: "Very instrumental in our winning attitude right now..a guy that has intangibles you can’t really measure on or off the ice" 0 replies 0 retweets 0 favorites Reply Retweet Favorite

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:28 pm EST

I shit you not..... Brennan Klak..... Ducks trade Dany Heatley and a 2015 3rd rounder to Panthers for Tomas Fleischmann

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:22 pm EST

Bozak will not be a Ranger, they want Vermette for his F/O ability or they won't get a C at all. In all seriousness, Zucc will be traded, and my bet is on Yandle.

Higgy21


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:13 pm EST

Michael Grosso #BREAKING - Per multiple reports, Phaneuf was close to being dealt to the Wings if the Leafs retained salary (2.5M) and took Weiss. (1/2)..... Leafs said no to salary retained and wanted prospects. Talks eventually died out. Deal fell through yesterday night. (2/2)

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:12 pm EST

I like the Hobbit; so he's most likely gone. A long line of faves have been shipped by the NYR over the years, going back to Mike McEwen and Pat Hickey for God's sake. For that brillo-headed sack of shit Beck. Oh well. If the Zuke is gone to the Leafs, Slats had better come back with JVR.

Nick


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:11 pm EST

Zucc gets traded. Bozak is acquired. Hayes moves up to replace Zucc. So sayes LB. Didn't I just post that like an hour ago? When did LB make his claim? Before or after I did???

RF4L


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:11 pm EST

Nick Kypreos..... Hearing #Oilers sitting on a potential Petry #NHLTrade.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:08 pm EST

David Pagnotta...... Noises getting louder over Blackhawks discussing calls for Sharp, who has limited NMC. Told WAS, MTL, DET have serious interest.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:03 pm EST

HockeyRumors&Trades..... Edmonton media reporting that the #Oilers are on the verge of trading D Jeff Petry.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:55 pm EST

Moving ZUCC messes with team chemistry. So, that's one reason not to do it. Moving ZUCC for BOZAK is a dumb move because ... well, no explanation needed.

THE Kreider


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:44 pm EST

Jfc, cmon. We see right thru this stuff. But if its to the clubs advantage right now to put Zucs name out there, no biggie. Hes goin to get his 5/25 and be here. Negotiations are a contact sport.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:42 pm EST

Vermette is overrated. Let someone else overpay for him now and overpay him on a new contract. If we are spending that kind of money, spend it on Zucc.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:42 pm EST

I mean move Zucc to aome other team than AZ to get the pick and possibly a #6 D for Zucc and then score Vermette or whomever from another trading partner.

Ranger47


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:38 pm EST

Wonder if Sather is trying to score Vermette (or some other bigger fish) and needs to move Zucc's salary and/or needs to get back a #1 pick to be able to make the trade with AZ...?

Ranger47


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:35 pm EST

Half-assed

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:33 pm EST

And if Sather and AV have as Plan B that 22 year old Kevin Hayes is going to slide up,to THE FIRST LINE and perform beautifully during the playoffs....well, then the NY Rangers are not serious about winning the Stanley Cup....Plan B would be called "on a wing and a prayer"....or rather, "on a left wing and a prayer" and that is a half-added, half-hearted, half-brained approach. Who,would Backcheck on that line? Who would hit? Ugh....this is a ridiculous fustercluck plan

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:25 pm EST

Higgy, lookin for trouble? NOBODY wants Brad Richards back here. They paid him tens of millions to go away.And its STAYING that way!

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:19 pm EST

LOL! Imagine trading a beloved locker room guy like Zucc for a guy who screws his team mates' wives....great chemistry builder!

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:16 pm EST

Brooks is basically saying everything i said yesterday....what Sather is trying to do right now (if in fact it's not just a ploy to get Zucc to cave and sign) basically makes no sense....or as Brooks puts it...Sather has put himself in a position where he "threads the needle" and then has to HOPE things work out if he trades Zucc. That is no way to try and win a Stanley Cup....it's arrogant and asinine. "It is believed the Rangers have offered Zuccarello a five- or six-year deal worth $4.5 Million per, while the winger is seeking well in excess of $5M per, perhaps up to $5.5M. " If true, that seems very workable to me and if Zucc can't come down a little to make it work, then Imwould be very disappointed at his greed...not surprised, but disappointed. Then again, if Sather had started negotiating earlier, it would have made for more slack to get a deal,done. Sather is doing it purposely....he's setting up a game of chicken....and there's one last offer that will be made by each side by tomorrow. If Zucc wants to stay, he needs to,assert himself into,the process. Who knows, Zucc could be "insulted" at this point of Sather made a verbal promise and now appears to not be keeping it. Then it would become personal and Zucc will be gone.

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:13 pm EST

Higgy: We get it....you're trolling. Enough already

RDW


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:10 pm EST

Zucc, Miller, and a 2nd for Sharp and the return of Brad Richards. We get our 3rd line center, and a wing with tons of playoff experience. Chicago can afford to retain salary with zucc's contract.

Higgy21


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:04 pm EST

Ugh. Wake up to find we may be shopping Zucc? I need one of those cereal umbrellas E was patenting...

LeoS


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:04 pm EST

Probably after he read Katie Strangs tweet. Brooks is quite often bringing up the rear.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 1:00 pm EST

Zucc gets traded. Bozak is acquired. Hayes moves up to replace Zucc. So sayes LB. Didn't I just post that like an hour ago? When did LB make his claim? Before or after I did???

RF4L


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:59 pm EST

It was overdue!

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:56 pm EST

Sather sucks. There I said. It was overdue....

RF4L


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:56 pm EST

Maybe ZUCC is "available" so Sather can see what every team is offering. Keep his finger on the pulse of every trade in the league

ref24


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:55 pm EST

Total crock O shit. As much s cha ncr they move McD as Zuc. Sathets not parting with $25m until he zings ya at least once. Meantime it gets teams talkin, maybe you can walk someobe back from Zuc & swipe a player. After this Zuc doesnt have to worry about anything till 2020.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:54 pm EST

Per True Blue IAmARanger.... NEWS: Rangers actively trying to bring over Pavel Buchnevich for a PTO with the Wolfpack followed by a signing of an ELC #NYR - Vin

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:52 pm EST

Jeff Petry is a healthy scratch for tonight.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:49 pm EST

Overload Hockey...... From source: Jets are kicking tires on Zucarello, Cheveldayoff wants to get faster. #Habs have called 15+ teams looking for top 6 scoring.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:46 pm EST

Sather causes himself problems by taking everyone to the limit. Bridge contracts, holdouts and overpayments thereafter. See Girardi and Staal. Look at the deals Dean Lombardi signed Nolan and Clifford. This is how a team's finances should be managed in the new millennium. Not checking the size of each others packages and stupid games of chicken. With all of this games, the rangers are still cap strapped.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:45 pm EST

The Rangers have “never once” inquired about Tyler Bozak but the Leafs have come to the Rangers “a number of times” offering him up. (NY Post) Brooks says that the Leafs are anxious to move Bozak. (NY Post) Larry Brooks writes that a fit with Bozak could see him center the third line while Kevin Hayes moves up to top line LW to replace Mats Zuccarello. Brooks says that “perhaps” Zuccarello “plus” could maybe get a deal done with the Leafs then trying to flip Zuccarello. (NY Post)

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:44 pm EST

BOB - Old Man Take a LOOK at MY eyes, I'm ALOT LIKE YOU ARE......OK, TWO things...SATHER - DON'T YOU DARE PICK UP TIM ERIXON!!!!...and...from K.atie Strang: It’s looking more likely that the Rangers will be trading Mats Zuccarello over re-signing him...Hasta Luego

Hospo


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:39 pm EST

I am getting old. One of these days, I will even be as old as HOSPO. i have always liked JVR because he grew up in Middletown and I am from Eatontown. But he definitely plays it soft for such a big guy.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:38 pm EST

No matter what the outcome with Zucc, it is very obvious that Sather has completely mismanaged the entire situation. Rhett is correct....if Zucc gets traded, then Sather never wanted to keep him in the first place because to,start negotiating 3 weeks before the deadline and then start threatening to trade him if he doesnt sign is counterproductive and unnecessary. It might actually make Zucc play worse at this,point Evanston matter how much he says it doesn't matter, he's an emotional player and emotional,players are effected by stuff like this. The whole situation, as I posted yesterday, makes NO SENSE and it's all on Sather at this point....half-assed approach...he created this entire pressurized situation. If he trades Zucc and his excuse is he couldn't afford to,lose him for,nothing....it's on HIM. If that's the case, he should,have been into negotiation 2 months ago. Then, if like Cally, it looks lie Zucc is asking too much to ever get to a common number, then you can use that excuse. 3 weeks of negotiations right before the trade deadline? That's all on Sather and the excuse is bullshit....the divide is not that far.

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:36 pm EST

Believe thats almost 30 years ago Bob? Hard to believe. And yeah, I swear everytime I see him, thats who I think of...

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:33 pm EST

Kevin McReynolds? Bwahahahaha.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:32 pm EST

Andrew Gross...... In lineup news: John Moore gets a second straight game in the lineup. Hunwick the healthy scratch. Fast still needs one full practice

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:31 pm EST

The whole league would want Zuc & no one can have him. Ploy. But I wouldnt trade him for either of those guys. Especially not JVR, who is Kevin McReynolds imo.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:29 pm EST

Per NHLRumorsDaily: "Toronto wants Zucc but unless JVR or Kessel comes back to NYR, it's a non-starter"

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:26 pm EST

RR.... Most overrated prospect in Hockey? Hardly. NY Maybe. I doubt there's a fan outside of NY who even knows who he is.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:21 pm EST

Erixon lol. Theres one for the asset managers. I remember people bemoaning the loss. Btw, told one Brady Skjei might be most over rated prospect in hockey. I prefer too see with my own eyes. Just what I heard.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:18 pm EST

Not the kind of Hobbitt you want to upset. Poor Flyers. See a 4-pt night for Zuc.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:17 pm EST

Erixon on waivers today.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:16 pm EST

Steve Zipay..... More Zuke: "out of my control" Says he hasnt changed what he's said in past, that he wants to stay in NY

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:16 pm EST

Ploy is the word but BB it wouldnt be futures coming back for Zuc if they did. Id say 99.9% its tactical, but when you get names like Sharp floating around anythings possible. Wish it was over already.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:14 pm EST

Glen, go get Erixon as our number 7-8 guy...... NHL WAIVERS: Aaron Volpatti, Tim Erixon, Dave Schlemko, and Rob Zepp

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:13 pm EST

Steve Zipay..... Zuccarello has no reaction to rumors that teams are being told he us available: "Ive got a game today...try not to think about things.'

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:12 pm EST

I'm speaking of Sather of course.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:10 pm EST

If Zucc does get traded, it tells me he never intended to keep him. He barely started negotiations with the guy and they are only $1 Mil apart. It would also say to me that he and his coach are of a different mind on who should be part of the core of this team.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:08 pm EST

I would be sad to see Zucc go, but the cap presents this problem for everyone that spend close to it. The difference I see from last year is that AV was not impressed with Callahan, playing him on the 3rd line and not on the PP. IMO, this is why Callahan did not accept the rangers contract offer. Zucc is prime time and AV likes him.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:07 pm EST

Darren Dreger...... Sens getting calls on Gryba, Wiercioch and Phillips. NYR listening to interest in Zuccarello.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:04 pm EST

TRADE: #Canes acquire Jack Hillen & a 4th-round pick from WSH in exchange for Gleason

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:54 am EST

BTW if MZA is traded and in return are picks/prospects then that frees up the cap space to fit Bozak, which could mean Hayes slides to the wing to assume MZA's spot.

RF4L


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:53 am EST

Sather should be shopping MZA if they are far apart on the contract talks. I totally concur with Vic that he shouldn't be allowed to walk in the summer for nothing. That said I still will be shocked if he's actually traded if he's not signed. Too disruptive to the line-up. In other words it's a contract negotiation ploy. We shall see - quite interesting.

RF4L


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:33 am EST

Strang saying teams told Zuc available. Thats the kick in the ass for him to sign. I wouldnt believe it till I saw it. More likely its sather using zuc to see whos really available. But ya never know.mess im not taking personal whst happens to Yandle or vermette, we're just always 180 apart. Thats fine. They both have new teams in 48 hrs imo.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 11:30 am EST

Katie Strang writes that Zucc has been offered around the league by Sather. Looks like he is playing hardball like he did with Callahan.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:53 am EST

Long live the "Mase Face!" R.I.P. to a most beloved Knick.

pa.rangersfan


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:45 am EST

RIP Mase. Still remember seeing him running around the Garden in his Ranger jersey in 1994.

Bob


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:44 am EST

Per Rob Z......· NYR still interested in Bozak..... Per multiple sources, The Rangers are actively shopping John Moore..... Aaron Portzline...... #CBJ Brandon Dubinsky out indefinitely with concussion

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:34 am EST

DREW...... He loved NY and was a big NY Ranger fan. Just 48 years old. Very sad.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 10:29 am EST

It would not surprise me one bit if Sharp gets traded. The story about the fight in the locker room, Innuendo about Sharp and the fact that next year they are cap constrained all lead me to believe he will be dealt- either now or at the draft.

puckyou


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:54 am EST

Rhet- real sad. I loved how he supported the Rangers in 94!!! On one of the Ranger cup videos, I remember him high fiving the fans!

DREW


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:46 am EST

RIP Anthony Mason. A Great NY Knick.

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 9:34 am EST

So yesterday, not here that I saw but another place, someone was talking about the Rangers being still "in danger" of missing the playoffs. So I looked. The panthers and flyers would have to play .500 hockey with the Rangers gaining zero points. They are 17&19 points back with about 20 games to go. Sure it COULD happen...but in danger? Hardly.

Wildcard


Sat Feb 28 2015 6:33 am EST

is there a clock for how long the nyr were in first?.....

stevielegs


Sat Feb 28 2015 5:08 am EST

There are about a dozen teams scouting Vermette. He is the premiere UFA forward available in a pretty small and rapidly diminishing market. Yandle is a premiere offensive defenseman in his prime, under contract. Fewer teams are in on him, just the ones who need a top-4 for more than just this post season. But of course the price is much higher. You don't trade a PPQB, potentially top-pairing defenseman, earning below market salary next season. You don't trade that for McIlrath/Moore, Miller/Duclair and picks. Thats even without Vermette.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:59 am EST

I doubt either is moved at deadline, but if either or both are, it will be for a return closer to that for each. Not both. You should stop taking disagreement so personally.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:52 am EST

Oh, Sir Spamalot, your up this hour proofreading? You think it takes 4 pieces gor either guy, one a ufa? You hit your head? Something very close to that could make it reality. But im sure you know better...

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:25 am EST

Try that package for either one. Thats closer to what its going to cost.

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 4:11 am EST

Ok, break's over. Lets say in theory you could swap JT & D man & a few picjs and bring back Vermette & Yandle. Who's pullin the trigger? Who's the dman? Moore might not get it done if AZ wants big & mean. Maybe theyd want JT-McIlrath, maybe picks get exchanged, or lesser prospects.Yandle has 27 PP pts. If the NYR PP ever got consistent it could catapult the team to even another level. Maybe ideally AZ would want Duclair-McIlrath. Oerdonal BB prefetence, id rather keep Miller over Duke. We just dont have many PF types. But I might greenlight either. Very tempting. Theoretically tempting.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 3:17 am EST

So just to deviate to anything from trades, I see where Isles snuck out new b & w logo, then the Barclay/Ratner people lied & denied it will be Isles. Its very similar to Nets logo, but the name on it is 'Brooklyn Hockey". Now theyve told Isles fans theylk jeep name & colors; but seems like a phase in. Because they will intro a new 3rd jersey this year, a b & w one..question that came to mind; is that the name they want? Can you calk a hocjey team, brooklyn hockey? Like a spin-off on college teams? Idk. Not my team.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:24 am EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/27/rangers-shopping-ultra-talented-but-frustrating-defenseman/

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 2:18 am EST

Ha....I heard a crazier one! ;) Kis, just being nice. I happen to be very nice.

Rabid Ranger


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:34 am EST

Incarcerated Bob IBN...... crazy rumor going around late tonight in Canada NHL Habs and Bruins neck and neck for Yandle (trade floodgates are about to open)

Rhet0ric


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:23 am EST

Does it really matter?

JFC31


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:12 am EST

Or did AV cut his time bc Sather was trying to negotiate an offer for lower $

Messier11


Sat Feb 28 2015 12:03 am EST

Vic -- writing was on the wall (and on The Wall) for Cally for quite a while last season. AV had basically relegated him to the 3rd line and took,him off of the PP. He was not the integral player on the ice that Zuccarello is this year and last. In the locker room and in the stands, Cally was still well respected and loved, but they were able to overcome his loss on the ice because it was no longer as significant as it had been. Sather had been negotiating all season with Callahan and it basically went nowhere....no major budging by either side....Cally wanted out because AV had cut his ice and he wanted more money so the solution was to hold to,his demands and force a trade

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:48 pm EST

with tonights win, Halak has won more games in a single season than any other Islanders goaltender ever. Still another 19 games for them to play.

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:42 pm EST

The Blackhawks and Capitals have reportedly discussed trades involving Patrick Sharp. http://thesco.re/1BoIidk pic.twitter.com/fe2bY7Z2GN

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:13 pm EST

woo. is this Eklund's bulls eye?

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:11 pm EST

Michael Grosso........ If I had to bet on a Patrick Sharp trade it would have to occur in the off season. Sharp has playoff experience, may be to valuable.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:09 pm EST

Michael Grosso &#8207;.... BREAKING - Blackhawks & Capitals have been discussing a potential Patrick Sharp trade. Hawks really like Johansson.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 9:47 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun..... I still feel iike Vermette is best fit for them, my own opinion, but perhaps if price is too high they go elsewhere... Don't sense the Blackhawks are close to a trade for a forward right now but they are certainly working on it .... they've got time.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 9:44 pm EST

Eklund not worth responding to, but Id take Johansson for Sharp straight. Johansson cap hit 1/3 of Sharps. Is 24, Sharp is 33. Johansson's production about 2/3 Sharp's but he will likely get better with experience, larger role in Chicago. But again…Eklund

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 9:37 pm EST

Eklund chiming in that the rumor is Marcus Johanssen for Patrick Sharp. I would assume that's Johanssen, plus for Sharp.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 9:26 pm EST

HL Trade Rumors.... Report: Caps and Hawks Have Discussed Sharp

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 9:14 pm EST

JFC: Have you already forgotten last year? SATHER traded away the CAPTAIN of the team. The heart and soul guy who was the Fan Favorite. The Rangers did just fine in the playoffs. And, SATHER now knows he can deal an important player and the team can still go deep in the playoffs.

Vic


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:58 pm EST

I guess that the Sharks are going to save themselves the annual playoff humiliation and miss the playoffs altogether.

Bob


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:53 pm EST

NY Daily News Sports...... Former Rangers goalie Mike Richter talks 'life-altering' effects of concussions at medical panel | http://nydn.us/1BotGL1

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:48 pm EST

would Erixon be a better fit with AV, with Boyle, than Moore?

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:43 pm EST

Just to make Hospo's head explode.... TIM ERIXON is available.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:34 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun.... Parameters of conditional 4th-round pick: If Hawks win 2 rounds and Timonen plays in 50% or more of games then it goes to 3rd-rounder in 16

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:33 pm EST

I prefer to refer to #20 as THE.

Bob


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:27 pm EST

its a gamble

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:21 pm EST

Timonen will be 40 in 3 weeks. Still hasn't played a game in 10 months.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:17 pm EST

I prefer JESUS H. KREIDER

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:16 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun.... Blackhawks still aim to trade for a forward as well before the deadline

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:15 pm EST

Vic -- you haven't addressed what the loss of Zuccarello from the line-up would mean to the Rangers' Cup aspirations this year. Trading Zuccarello would be a BOMBSHELL to the locker room, to team psyche and to the line-up, line combos, etc. Why would a GM who is intent on winning a Cup risk taking a known quantity (both the individual player and the lineup) and risk screwing it up? Becaus there is no way to tell that whatever player Sather gets (if he can even get a decent player) will be able to fit into that lineup and gel in a very short amount of time before the playoffs start. Sather would take that chance this late in the game....risk getting rid of the 5th leading scorere on the team and a guy the coach says is part of his team's core and future? Ya really think he would do that? Don't get me wrong, I agree that Sather has not played this well at all because if Zucc is a prick, he'll go for $6 mil and he's gone. Sather can't be that stupid can he?....that he'd get himself to a crossroads where his choice is blow up his team right before playoffs or lose a key player for nothing? Or is Sather just confident that a deal will get done? Does he have a verbal agreement with Zucc and his agent? That was the poop after Zucc signed for $3.5 mil below markeyt value. Maybe that is the reason Sather is not worried about signing him....he knows what the basic parameters of a deal are already.

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:14 pm EST

David Pagnotta..... Chicago had interest in Petry, and to an extent Michalek. Timonen somewhat under the radar, but worked on it for a few days. Great addition.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:12 pm EST

Thats a nice add if Kimmo is back to 100%. For the price, I would have stayed away.

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:11 pm EST

Flyers get a 2nd Round pick and a conditional one.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:09 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun..... And there was the Blackhawks trade they were working on all day: Kimmo Timonen to the Hawks from the Flyers

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:08 pm EST

The Eggman

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:08 pm EST

Timmonen goes to Chicago

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:05 pm EST

The Karpster

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:40 pm EST

Yes, the following are acceptable: "THE" , "THE KREIDER", and "THE Kreider"

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:40 pm EST

Rhet- agreed. Boyle is more effective with Staal. Moore is more effective with Klein. IMO The Moore/Boyle pairing is an effort by AV to force Sather's hand. I doubt it works.

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:36 pm EST

Stevie.... Moore and Klein were much better together than Moore and Boyle are. Boyle is just plain terrible on D at times and his confidence is pretty low on offense. Moore looks to be a goner ....THE Kreider.... Followed. Can I just cal you "THE" so I don't have to work so hard? .....VIC.... The same way Lamoriello re-signs his most important players year after year. "If you want to be on this team, I need you to take this much." They haven't been negotiating long enough to be at that point yet. Am I 100% confident? No. But I'm pretty confident.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:33 pm EST

WILDCARD: I'm sorry but that makes no sense. After Monday SATHER loses all leverage. Why would you allow your leverage to expire in a contract negotiation and with the expectation that you can get what you want later. Once Monday passes MZA calls the shots and what he might have agreed to now might be different then what he will agree to then.

Vic


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:16 pm EST

I would have kept Nylander longer

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:15 pm EST

Thanks, Bob. Yes: https://twitter.com/TheKreider ... please follow.

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:14 pm EST

What I wouldn't give to secretly record SATHER at his craft during these days prior to the trade deadline. I can see him now ... chewing his cigar ... sipping cognac ... scouring this blog ... on the phone with EKLUND.

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:12 pm EST

I know who THE Kreider is, and it is not Higgins. THE Kreider comes from much warmer climes. He even has his own Twitter account.

Bob


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:12 pm EST

Rhet when Klien was his partner it was the sos ....Vic many were happy to see jagr and nylander leave ... I wasn't , but as you said it's a business . Sather makes mistakes and good moves. Fans get the consequences ....and the benefits of a nyr team that's pretty good .... They are contenders...

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:11 pm EST

THE Kreider..... Now, that was funny :)

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:10 pm EST

Vic: also must remember. Sather could be willing to sign him for let's say, an extra year, or with a certain NTC/NMC but try to get a little more his way...and after a couple weeks or whatever "relent" and sign him. So it may look like he isnt getting him signed but is sure he can. That's the problem with being on our side of things.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:09 pm EST

EKLUND confirms that THE KREIDER is not CHRIS HIGGINS.

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:09 pm EST

I'm who?

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:06 pm EST

THE Kreider.... Come clean. You are also Chris Higgins. You both seem to take the same gag and run it into the ground. It was funny at first, but you really need to mix it up with something else.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:06 pm EST

RHET: SATHER has no leverage. He is under 70 hours away from losing control of MZA's future with this team. He MUST be moved if he cannot be resigned.

Vic


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:05 pm EST

We can also probably safely assume that Zucc's agent was dragging his feet a little. Zucc didn't have a great start, and his game really didn't turn around consistently until after the holiday break. His agent would have seemed foolish asking for 5.5 or more per long term for a guy who was going long stretches of not contributing much and needed to be able to say "see he still has the ability to help win a cup".

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:04 pm EST

Stevie... IMO, Moore's biggest problem is that he's paired with Boyle. You can't have two offensive type D's that are defensively challenged on the same line. You need at least 1 defensive conscience. One has to go and it seems that Sather is committed to him for at least the rest of this season :)

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:03 pm EST

I feel Sather and Co. still think in a pre-cap world. They hold off until the last moment possible to sign home grown players to the big contracts. And by that time they are being signed for their past efforts kind of like a reward. But by that time their best hockey is behind them. It does not work in the hard cap system. I think the Girardi and Staal contracts are this kind of old school mentality. They wait too long to sign the long term deals and then are too expensive to keep. Had they been signed a few years ago to the long term deals (ie. no bridge contract that Sather loves) then they would be about in the middle of their long contracts which would have been signed, I am guessing, at more reasonable cap figure. Wait too long and these players get too senior and you have to break out the bank to keep them. And usually past the point that would be worth it.

NYStranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:02 pm EST

EKLUND: Rangers have traded DUCLAIR, GIRARDI, and ZUCARELLO for CARCILLO and a 7th

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:02 pm EST

Vic: I think that it's not just average salary. I think length is involved as well. Maybe Sather offers a bit more per on a shorter deal (4 years) and less per for a longer (6 year) deal. Also perhaps NMC/NTC issues are being hammered out. As long as they are both negotiating in good faith I think Zucc remains past Monday. One thing seems to be clear, Cally's agent was playing hard ball and Sather probably felt like it would be worthless to try and negotiate further. I think if an agent is working with a GM and not being stupid the GM will want to keep trying.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:58 pm EST

Dinty Moore is mini delzero trade him for a Calvin Klien knockoff .... He can't hit the net .... Ulf is failing with him....

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:57 pm EST

VIC.... Simple answer is that Sather is trying to squeeze every penny from Zucc that he can so we can have more cap flexibility next season.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:53 pm EST

3 more nights at the opera ....https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZvugebaT6Q

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:46 pm EST

Rabid your kissing yorkie's ass now. haha WTF happened the other night that you went ballistic? you bring good shit to the wall dont let somebody get you so upset that you lose your mind.

KIS


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:40 pm EST

Then why isn't MZA signed? If both sides are so reasonable and close then why hasn't a deal been done? If MZA was asking for 5.5 and SATHER was pushing for 5 wouldn't this be done already? And if SATHER is thinking MZA will sign for 4.5 and is leaving it for July he is going to look awfully stupid when MZA signs for 6 or more elsewhere because other teams WILL throw money at him that the Rangers can't match. SATHER has already made this mistake a few times with NYLANDER, JAGR and STRAKA. It looks like he learned his lesson last year with CALLY. You guys may be right but it is horrible mismanagement to not sign or trade him by Monday.

Vic


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:32 pm EST

Rich Chere.... Scott Gomez, Martin Havlat and Michael Ryder all taking warmup for Devils.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:20 pm EST

JFC....Agreed, Even Zucc at $5,5 Mil(worst case scenario), is not a horrible deal. He is the one guy on the team that's always team-first instead of me-first when it comes to money. Most players in his shoes would probably be in the mid-sixes in term of asking price. He always seems like he wants to get a deal done sooner than later. No way you can let him go.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:16 pm EST

Hey York, nice thing you wrote on Moore this am. im sure weve both played with guys like that. They get the skating part, but the overview & just natural X& O flow doesnt come natural, ends up a muddled picture. Anyway, I kinda carpet-bombed you LOL & you didnt return fire (u feelin ok? ;). Apologies.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:10 pm EST

...because Sather feels like the numbers being talked about are workable,with some compromise on each side.

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:09 pm EST

Vic -- if Sather was so worried about losing him in July, why would he only start negotiations 3 weeks ago? He would,have to know that there's a big leverage shift after the deadline passes and it's not in his favor. My prediction is thatSucc is not signed by Monday and he doesn't get traded.

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:07 pm EST

Bozak thing hasnt had legs at all today. Think Moore & a no. 2, of which Rangers have two, gets you Bozak anytime imwo. As long as he hasnt been traded somewhere else ;)

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:47 pm EST

Ha...hospo! Later on..

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:46 pm EST

Hospo geico .... Gecko

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:45 pm EST

Just saw this. Hagelin 12pts last 17. Gorilla math, over 50-pt pace. EXCELLENT for him. Guy is one of best 3rd liners in hockey (I know Vic, its the Shaggy effect lol!)

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:44 pm EST

Why Bozak remains a remote possibility is the time he has remaining on contract at a reasonable amount

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:43 pm EST

Gotta know when to hold them..know when to fold them..Gotta know when to hold them.....know when to fold them...

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:43 pm EST

Even if we did get Vermette (which we won't) he wouldn't be here next season. He is not signing with us for 3 million (a squeeze) when he could sign with a top-ten for still 5, 6 mill per. With MSL or without.

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:41 pm EST

Said it before and will say it again: IMO if Bozak's acquired it's the start of the end of one of Brassard or Stepan. If somehow Sather can fit Bozie under the cap now that other move won't happen until the off-season and I suspect if indeed he's chasing Bozak, that's what he'd prefer. And of the 2 I suspect it would be Stepan who's moved because Brassard is firmed up for the next few years at $5,000,000 and Bozak at $4,200,000. With Hayes at a $1,000,000 it would mean the top 3 Ranger center would come in at just over $10,000,000 next year, which gives the team some flexibility (and $1,500,000 less than they are paying their number 1 goalie!).

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:41 pm EST

And who

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:41 pm EST

ges999 - funny, one of my daughters stumped me last night w/a similar question: what if, without losing possession, you then 'score' on yourself where the net should be? (like we almost did on a delayed penalty) Would there be grounds for a whistle? Could you blithely skate thru your crease w/the puck and cross it over the red line?

LeoS


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:39 pm EST

What sather says goes goes ... Signed or unsigned.... He's a gambler....

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:39 pm EST

One thing in theory Vermette does is fill any vacancy in the event Duke or Buch (both of whom will spend time in Hartford if the past is any indication) arent ready when they disinvite Marty St Louis. Give Vermette a fair contract along the lines if MSLs $5m and youve got your top 6 forward. Hayes & Vermette can both play wing. Maybe one (Hayes, with Kreider & Stepan) moves up. The other centers 3rd line. Not bad. Of course, depends on yoyr analysis LOL. Gotta go! Hope domethin' happens tonight.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:36 pm EST

nhl.com gives by player by the game or by season, PP, PK, ES, home and away. Not by period and not by zone.

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:29 pm EST

professa: do you know of any websites that give extensive categorizations of face-off details? ie: offensive vs defensive zonee draws.. sortable by time periods.. etc. etc... thanks

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:26 pm EST

RR, JFC and RHET: I like MZA a lot. I want him resigned and I want him with this team for years to come. But if he isn't resigned by Monday his ass goes to the highest bidder. This is a business folks. The Rangers cannot afford to let high value assets walk for nothing in July. I don't care who it is. The same would go for HANK, NASH, KK, HAYES, McDONAGH, etc. If they aren't resigned by the deadline they go.

Vic


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:23 pm EST

Stop before it get's started. Ignore each other or take it to the other wall. I like this place, even if you don't.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:18 pm EST

Ok. Whatever you say. Clear enough?

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:17 pm EST

We are not trading Zucc. It's easier replacing the team captain than it is the team cut-up. He keeps everyone loose and they all love him. Also, Sather's comments this year were no where near as strong as they were last season with Cally and Girardi. It seemed to be more about posturing to get his asking price down. None of the rumors I've seen even remotely hinted at him being moved. Twitter lit up at the panic of him possibly being moved for Bozak, but that's about it. JMO.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:16 pm EST

We aren't in on Vermette. We don't have the parts, we don't have the cap room. So no, Im not ever sure what you mean, even when its clearly written.

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:12 pm EST

No one seriously thinks Mars Zuccarello isnt going to be a Ranger for a long time. Hearing a lot about Ducks today. Good, let'em get Dion (so Kreider can steamroll him) and Glencross (so he & Kesler can both be hurt) and we'll beat shit out of them in finals.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:06 pm EST

Listening to NHL Radio on the way home and a caller asked hosts (who are in Toronto) about Rangers/Bozak. They said there have definitely been rumblings about Rangers interest in Bozak but they could not see it coming together before deadline. One host said Rangers should,take Bozak's $4.2 mil cap.hit and put it towards resigning Zucc. Why the heck would the Rangers trade Zuccarello if they think,they have a legitimate shot at the Cup? It already appears very clear that they are tinkering and they've actually come out and said that theynare confident in the team they have. Removing Zucc from that lineup would be a MAJOR disruption with repercussions up and down the lineup...it would be like AV having to,start all over again. THAT is how a Cup contender approaches the deadline? They are one of,the top teams in the NHL and are certainly among the Cup favorites....so,they're going to disrupt their whole lineup when Sather only started contract negotiations with Zuccarello 3 weeks ago? It makes no sense IMO

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:03 pm EST

Ah, the Trade Deadline, A study in grammar, logic and strategery!

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:00 pm EST

Mess, think you know what I meant. Lets not do a thing, ok? I didnt care for his game at all last night. But said last week, they know him thru his former teammates. Theyre comfortable, especially if Nash says so. Everybody pretty much loves Nash. That comfort zone is important. You play your chips on the back of a guts baseball card and hes a puckering asshole lol, you got a big problem! Deadlines over. So every little bit helps.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:57 pm EST

Being the trade deadline, no team is really out on any player until that player is actually dealt. A lot of GM's circle like sharks until said players asking price comes down into their stratosphere and then they will pounce. That said, for us it seems to be Arizona coming off their demand of a first rounder. I would only hope that we don't move a piece like Hagelin or Miller for a players that's not signed past this season. JM2C

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:47 pm EST

Hospo, have to get futures coming back. Thats where, as they say, lots of moving parts. And with that I believe I have been (due to general pestiness) cut off! Lol. Tuesday Ill find out whatever you want lol. meantime ill just go bother different people Haha...

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:42 pm EST

T minus 70 hours 22 minutes and delay of nhl on last minute deals...

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:41 pm EST

if 'word is contrary to reports that we aren't out on Vermette', that 'word' means we are out on Vermette. Triple negative

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:35 pm EST

RABID - Hope that's correct..not just becasue of VERMETTE but shows that SATHER is still looking to bring in a versatile 3rd (at worst) liner..Don't let me down Slats!!!

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:29 pm EST

Moof not yet. After sather gets 2-3 guys... Laurel & hardy . Abbott and Costello or , moe Larry & curly ... No room for the Marx brothers unless its duck soup...rumor has it there are rumors...

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:29 pm EST

Moof not yet. After sather gets 2-3 guys... Laurel & hardy . Abbott and Costello or , moe Larry & curly ... No room for the Marx brothers unless its duck soup...rumor has it there are rumors...

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:29 pm EST

Hags/Hayes/Stempniak Miller/Moore/Fast, Lindberg, Glass spare. Play John Moore

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:28 pm EST

Psst. Word is contrary to reports we are not out on V. If Yotes want JT so bad, maybe they shouldnt have fuckin slashed him!

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:21 pm EST

Did we win the cup yet ?

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:20 pm EST

RABID - Given the Rangers defense, I'd give up FAST before MOORE..BRDZIAK is not MY answer but he could be helpful...Legwand also..and others...

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:19 pm EST

TOM WILSON has a total of THREE goals this year. But I guess that's 3 more than GLASS.

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:15 pm EST

Idk Hospo. Lotta players out there! Lol. I wouldnt mind a staff special, under radar type they really like. Have a feeling Sather's not offering much more than Moore for Bozak. Nor should he really. Its millions to the cap, a nice hit for a guy we dont know what he looks like away from Kessel. Legwand always got pretty high marks defensively. It was his offense that never really justified his high draft spit (forget it he was 1-2-3 overall). It was high.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:08 pm EST

Or Zuc could just resign in summer LOL. Why the drama Vic? I back you on Shag-less, thats what I get? Dont mess with my hobbitt!

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:05 pm EST

BOB/RABID - BRODZIAK had a big game last night against NASH...He's also been playing both W and C this year....more W recently until last night where he went 8-4 on the draws....Versatile/flexiable player that could help the Rangers even if not a FO stud...Maybe that's the player "out WEST"?

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:04 pm EST

Less then 72 hours to sign or trade MZA. Get on it SATHER!!! Who knows, tomorrow night could be MZA's last game with the Rangers. Actually, last night could be MZA's last game with the Rangers..........

Vic


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:01 pm EST

RF4L/Hospo: Tom WIlson is probably my favorite Non-Ranger in the league right now. Exactly what we need. Has great size (6'4") and has offensive upside. I think he was even playing with Ovi and Backstrom this year. No way the Caps trade him tho, especially to us, unless we're giving up Zucc for him. Forcaster: Assets:Has great size and strength, plenty of snarl to his game, as well as good offensive instincts. Can score goals and set up linemates, but he does his best work when utilizing his big frame to create space for teammates. Will also drop the gloves and he's a big open-ice hitter. Flaws: Definitely needs more work on his puck skills. Must also continue to work on his skating stride, as well as his overall defensive play, in order to maximize his National Hockey League upside. Otherwise, he may wind up as a bottom-six forward at the highest level. Potential: Power forward with upside.Check out this fight against Sill, and listen to Pierre gush over him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otKSH4nFdzY

professa


Fri Feb 27 2015 4:00 pm EST

Zippay mentioned Broadziak, I think. The deadline file in my head caught fire a few days ago lol cant even think on this stuff right now. First to admit Im not familiar with a guy like that either. If the staff likes him, go for it.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:55 pm EST

What about Kyle Broadziak? Would he be an upgrade on the 3rd line?

Bob


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:48 pm EST

Never said Fast for Glencross. Dont know where Fast was offered. RF, I dont care about Bozak's $, if hes coming Sather will make it fit. He'd just better not, you know, choke on it. Toronto is a pretty goid training ground re; fishbowl intensity. Still gotra make sure whoever comes in has the makeup to perform. A guy like Glencross, whens last time he even saw playoffs? You never know, but we are going to MFing WAR, we know that.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:43 pm EST

BRUINS and Hawks are supposed to be duking it our for Vermette. Allegedly, no one else is close.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:41 pm EST

HOSPO/RR.....No way we're getting Glencross for Fast and a 4th, not with what some players trade have already cost.... Maybe it was an opening offer? ....Also, AV loves, loves, loves Quickie. I'd be surprised(not shocked) if he were dealt.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:33 pm EST

BTW, Bozak has 3 years left after this year...at $4,200,000.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:33 pm EST

Nothing news worthy but I thought an appropriate read for this time of year. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/27/sabres-gm-murray-i-got-a-trade-call-on-a-player-i-never-thought-i-would-get/

DREW


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:32 pm EST

THE K: Sather can work a 3-way...

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:31 pm EST

Any interest in Nic Grossman? Apparently the Flyers are prepared to move him if they decide the POs aren't realistic. He's a $3,500,000 cap hit, however and signed thru the end of next year. He'd probably immediately become the Rangers most physical d-man if acquired.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:30 pm EST

Also, THE Kreider is worth $10M. If not, more. He's a beast.

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:30 pm EST

There's no way WASH is trading with us. That much we know.

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:26 pm EST

This is only Kreider's 2nd full NHL season and 3rd professional season and he won't turn 24 for another 2 months. There's still a ton of room for growth in other words. He appears to be on his way to becoming a legitimate power winger and if the track he's on continues thru to next season, he'll be looking at one very hefty pay rise come the summer of 2016 (likely north of $6,000,000, depending on where the cap is).

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:26 pm EST

Ducks after Phaneuf

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:22 pm EST

RF4L - I love WILSON, would be a good get for the future, but that is not a player that will help the Rangers for this year...in fact he often hurts the Caps with his lack of discipline....I'm not sure he is really "avaialble" but maybe what the Caps are willing to pay for a top 6 forward..?

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:19 pm EST

Maybe Moore would play better if he was pressboxed 1 out of every 2 games.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:18 pm EST

If Tom Wilson is available, Sather needs to get on his horse and see what can be done to get him.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:07 pm EST

lovejoy another RHS.

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:00 pm EST

T minus 72 hours and counting.

RF73


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:59 pm EST

Any interest in Ben Lovejoy? He seems to have fallen out of favor in Anaheim.

Bob


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:59 pm EST

RABBID/RHET - GLENCROSS? From what I've read about Petr, Fast and 4th would not be enough...Not my opinion, mind you

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:57 pm EST

JFC - Yepper and that was with NASH, playing hard, but being rather ineffective..He continues his in-season play, I don't have too many worries about the top 2 lines especially since it seemed that, after 3-4 years of disappearance, STEP finally recognozed what it took to win in the POs.

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:53 pm EST

Edm (Petry? ) best guess.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:51 pm EST

Hearin Fast + 4th offered out west. Not sure who'd come back.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:49 pm EST

The Rangers Top 6 are essentially the same as last year's PO run to the Finals. Why would any coach/GM be overly concerned about those lines? It's the bottom 6 that are very different and therefore a BIG question mark, regardless of how well the 3rd line has been playing in the past 12-15 games. The Rangers will try to answer those question marks IMO. If J. Moore would play like he did in the POs last year, the #6 D wouldn't look like such a problem either

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:46 pm EST

Word is Glencross wants to play with his buddy Kesler. Caps offer thought to be Wilson, whom Burke wants.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:44 pm EST

Agreed, re; Kreider. As he & Zuc go, so go the Rangers. The Kreider very complimentary towards Glass last night, also credited great BU strength & conditioning program for Hayes success, kiddingly. He has really kicked it up a level, best hes ever played, and theres more. Looks like a vet. An unstoppable cyborg vet.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:34 pm EST

VIC - But the Rangers aren't changing the top 2 lines and it is what it is, so, regarding possible changes, you can waste your breath there not me, OTOH, they might change the 3rd and 4th lines and I'm just giving my input .......of course, if the top two lines suck in the POs they will get knocked out...But they also MIGHT get knocked out if the top 2 lines play well but the third line isn't ready for grinding PO hockey...These are MIGHTs I want to get rid of by improving the 3rd line for PO play....Now, if out of the blue they do deal to improve the top 2 -lines, It should also make the 3rd line better..I'm down with that also...

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:33 pm EST

THE Kreider. That's all there is. Everything else is nonsense.

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:29 pm EST

Havlat is Lupul II for injuries. He hasn't played over 48 games in 4 years and has only 2 seasons (out of 14) where he played 78 games or more.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:13 pm EST

However, very logical ! ;->

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:12 pm EST

JFC: Dont know how I got in the middle of the Havlat convo but, Havlat would be more of a 3rd line / 2nd line guy and Oscar my 4th line & once he showed us the goods possible 3rd line guy... Wouldnt want Havlat for the 4th line, its not his MO.... imo

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:09 pm EST

Thought VULCANS don't die.... RIP Spock....

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:05 pm EST

HOSPO: No, we probably won't agree because we see this whole thing differently. In your reply you said...."Or should i waset time talking about how NASH and the first line sucked?".....My answer is without a doubt YES! I know you are concerned about the playoffs and want to upgrade the 3rd line. But, the reality is that this team is going to get swept in the first round if the the #1 and #2 lines play they way they did last night. And, if the Rangers don't get a better, more consistent effort out of those two units then the Rangers are in for a very early exit regardless of who is playing on the 3rd line. I would love to have VERMETTE on the roster to upgrade the bottom 6. Hell, I'd be interested in bringing in a few guys to bolster those two lines. But the Rangers don't have the assets to trade to bring them in without putting themselves in a position of having multiple AHL level fodder type guys rounding out the roster next year. Their problem is two-fold. They don't have the assets to give (because their system has few solid prospects and they have dealt away too many picks over the last few years) and they don't have the Cap space next year to pay anyone other then kids to round out the roster. If they deal prospects like BUCH and DUKE they will be stuck with guys like KRISTO being pushed into a role they can't handle in the NHL. This is why they took a crazy flyer in LOMBARDI in the off season. They were desperate to find a cheap NHL player even though LOMBARDI hadn't played in almost 5 years. This is why they threw HAYES into the deep end (so to speak) this season. AV said it from the start. They were hoping (and praying) that HAYES would put it together by the time the playoffs came around and would would improve enough to be a difference maker for them. It was a gamble but they had little choice because they didn't have anyone else. LINDBERG does not posses the talent and ability that HAYES does. I think he will be a good bottom 6 player in the NHL but he will be a low output guy.

Vic


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:46 pm EST

JFC: Re your take on Bozak - bang on buddy. It's precisely what I've been saying about him. And at $4.250,000 for the next 2 years, I'd argue a reasonable cap hit, too.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:39 pm EST

Bob: I think part of the problem is that he isn't a 1st line center, he is a 3rd line center on a normal day, and a 2nd line center on his best days. If the Rangers were to get him, he would be on the 3rd line, and in that position he would be more effective than he has been with the leafs...at least I think so.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:39 pm EST

BOB - I don't think anybody wants to add vets just for the sake of adding vets---just as I',m almost sure that some fans don't want to play younger players just because they are younger and home grown---the whole idea is to make the team better with skills and talent that might be missing...We'll see...

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:32 pm EST

JFC-HOSPO--Hey, I surely respect your opinions. To me, the big problem on this club is the lack of effectiveness of the 4th line. If JFC is right about bozak, and if he pushes a better player down resulting in a more effective 4th line, I am all for it. I have endured so many years of Maple Leaf fan propaganda about the greatness of Bozak and have just not seen it. Hayes on the wing earlier this week was an eye opener for me. However, he looks better and better at center too. I am just not excited about adding vets for the sake of adding vets. I would have been ok with Winnik for the 4th line, but as long as the coach is in love with Tanner Glass I don't know if it would have made a difference.

Bob


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:32 pm EST

JFC-HOSPO--Hey, I surely respect your opinions. To me, the big problem on this club is the lack of effectiveness of the 4th line. If JFC is right about bozak, and if he pushes a better player down resulting in a more effective 4th line, I am all for it. I have endured so many years of Maple Leaf fan propaganda about the greatness of Bozak and have just not seen it. Hayes on the wing earlier this week was an eye opener for me. However, he looks better and better at center too. I am just not excited about adding vets for the sake of adding vets. I would have been ok with Winnik for the 4th line, but as long as the coach is in love with Tanner Glass I don't know if it would have made a difference.

Bob


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:16 pm EST

Bob -- I think Bozak is better and more valuable than what you're giving him credit for. I think he'd be a very good addition to the team....Besides being good at FOs, he goes to the dirty areas, he plays hard and he can put points up when he plays with good line mates...which I think he would have on the Rangers. I think he would make us better than we are now. How much better....I don't know....and don't really care if the price is right. When you're this close, you've got to at least try to get all 4 lines completed....right now we've got 2. Yes, the 3rd line is looking better but the competition has not been playoff level. A 3rd line with Bozak at center with Hayes sliding to the wing would make that line better IMO

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:11 pm EST

Bob _ I don't think the player has to be great to make a big difference...A single player can solidfy an entier lien and in turn give the coach so many more options and confidence, especially when other lines are shot down---which happens often on the POs..And I probably value FOs a little bit more but that's just me......In any event, a player that can play on the 3rd line and even slide up to 2nd in a pinch if he had to (injury--they will happen) would be perfect for this team...JMWO of course

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:59 pm EST

HOSPO--Absolutely. I just don't see the guys who are being bandied about making all that much of a difference. We don't have the cap space or available picks to make a splash that will make a big difference. Add a token player, fine. Replacing one guy on the 3rd line is going to make the difference between the cup and going out in round 2? Not Vermette, Bozak or Stewart. Sekera. That would have made a difference in back. Maybe even Franson. Eric Staal, JVR, Taylor Hall, these are the kind of players to deal prospects for. I would not mind Bozak if the cost is not too high. But even there......a few more face ofs won? Good but if the Rangers are going all the way, their current roster is going to have to take them there.

Bob


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:51 pm EST

RHET - Damn, that sucks..truly an iconic character/actor..

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:50 pm EST

JFC - Indeed, we will get a better read starting Monday but, unfortunately, that's after the deadline...I'm sure the Ranger braintrust already knows how it feels regarding needing players...We'll see by Monday..And we'll see the rest of the year if they made the right decision....BOB - If you se the East as a crapshoot, which it might be, doesn't it make sense to make your team better and make it less of a crap shoot.?

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:49 pm EST

Live Long and Prosper! RIP Leonard Nimoy!

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:47 pm EST

mf -- at such a cheap price, I'd go with Havlat over Lindberg....he's experienced, he can PK and even go on the PP...he's got 3 PP goals this season. He's more of a known quantity than Lindberg. If Sather could get him for a 4th or 5th rounder, that could be a very valuable player for us. Glass brings nothing AFAIAC and I want any holes we have filled so we can roll 4 strong lines. Once again, Havlat is the kind of guy who would give AV bottom 6 tinkering options....Havlat still is good enough to play 3rd line too if needed

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:39 pm EST

JFC: I thought we all agreed that Oscar, Oscar, Oscar, was to be called up for the 4th line duty... Who waffled?

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:28 pm EST

Havlat is a very good, all-around player....kind of guy who a coach can depend on in tight situations. Smart, hard worker and talented. At 33, I would imagine he still has something left to give if he's surrounded by talented players. Would be better if he could take draws but Sather should look into it. Havlat on the 4th line would be a huge upgrade over Tanner Glass

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:28 pm EST

As for the Predators, the Rangers played an excellent game in Nashville and should have won it. I suspect their game will be ramped up against these opponents. Really, they have passed a lot of tests so far, including sweeping California. I see no reason why they won't come through except for not having Henrik. If can sucks they may not be able to outscore their opponent.

Bob


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:24 pm EST

We'll get a better read on the Rangers starting Monday....5 straight games against good opponenents. I'm particularly curious to see how they play against the Predators and the Islanders. If they beat both of those teams convincingly, it will tell me they have raised their level of play to PO mode. Preds have beaten us and seem to match up very well with us. We finally beat the Islanders last time out. Baating those 2 will send a message....particularly to the Islanders.We also have games against the Kings and DUcks that will be a good indicator of where this team is.

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:20 pm EST

Havlatt's salary/cap hit at beginning of the season $1.5mill ... http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?1929#

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:14 pm EST

David Pagnotta..... Told by separate league sources that Havlat's been actively shopped. Devils been fairly busy lately.

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:12 pm EST

I agree with HOSPO to a point, but I also think that the East is a crapshoot and I don't see any one or two small changes the Rangers could make that would change those odds. They could go to the finals or they could go out to MTL, BOS, WAS or NYI. The cap stuff really restricts them. If they were to have added Sekera and Eric Staal, that would have been a step change. None of the rumored deals will, the best of them seeing to be Tyler Bozak. As for Hayes...........he is looking more and more like a top line guy in the future and a terrific move by the Rangers.

Bob


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:11 pm EST

Hospo: I almost wonder if they feel the same as you....meaning, they knew that were playing lesser teams and it got in their head that they didn't need to pay as hard. I say that because in each game they fell behind or it was close and they were starting to get pushed back, they brought a higher level of hockey and took over. It still wasn't perfect, but the level increased quite a bit. Its like they were thinking they would win, and thought it was going to be easy. Now, thats a bad habit to get into, but if it is the case, perhaps when a "real" opponent is on the ice they will start with a higher level instead of waiting to see if they need it.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:11 pm EST

Per NHLSourcesSay..... Sources say Marty Havlat on the move... Devils asking for a mid range draft pick

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:05 pm EST

THE Kreider = most crucial piece.

THE Kreider


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:02 pm EST

As for the Rangers and my recent NEGATIVITY, sorry but it's just a feeling and opinion that I can't shake after watching the lat 10-11 games or so...The Rangers are a very good team..capable of winning the Regular season EAST..But, I'll be honest, it's a long time since they have played a complete game....It's been awhile since they played consistent tight PO hockey (CAL game partly an exception)...And I don';t think once out of the last 10-11 games against mostly infierior opponents was their effort and game good enough to beat a team like MTL, TB, and maybe a few others IF they were playing well....I Know you only beat who's on the schedule and sometimes you play down to your opponent but , after watching the last month, I just can't shake the feeling that the team isn't good enough as is to even make it to the EASTERN FINALS...Part gut part quasi-educated opinion..And that's why I think this team desperately needs some help at Forward and the most logical place is the 3rd line where inexperieince will rear it's ugly head in the POS (IMWO) among other things....Again, just an opinion..

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 11:49 am EST

SYSTEM

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 11:48 am EST

VIC - Again, we won't agree,,,HAYES is an offensive force at times and a big part of the team..and he ain't going anywhere (except maybe to WING)...nor should he...And, I didn't say a damn thing about him personally.....It's the LINE that concerns me...For the POs..I watched the game last night, I thought that line was especially invisible while I watched until the goal at the end of the game...So I commented on it..Especailly since I don't see the Rangers making changes on the TOP 2 lines but MIGHT on the 3rd line..Which I think they need to do..Or should i waset time talking about how NASH and the first line sucked?..As for VERMETTE, I would still like him, but it doesn't have to be him and am way open to alternatives....

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 11:48 am EST

I wouldn't take Semin if they ate 75% of his salary....the guy has been given chance after chance after chance and he only wants to play one way. He's not coachable or he's just plain stupid....either way, he's not worth the time. A guy like that creates resentment and sends a bad message to a team that is trying to install a STEM....because he won't play it. His sytem is, "I get puck, i shoot puck"

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 11:29 am EST

Rhet: Dunno if Semin is a dressing room cancer, but is without a doubt lazy.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 11:28 am EST

No to lazy ass Semin (what a stupid contract - Jimmy Rutherford shouldn't have a job in hockey because of it) and maybe to Skinner. The latter is a great talent but small and fearless and therefore, injury prone, specifically concussions. He's still young - there's a reason he's being shopped (if he is) and that's it - too much missed time.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 11:12 am EST

WILD... He's a distraction. Rightly or wrongly, there's a perception that Semin is lazy and overrated and a locker room cancer. Even if it's not true, Who needs all the drama?

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 11:10 am EST

Rabid - everytime I hear the name Skinner, my first thought WAS - http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/superstar_bio/public/talent/bio/2012/04/skinner_bio.png.....now I think of that video of him figure skating. I know the movie The Cutting Edge (I love me some Kate Mosely) made figure skating acceptable, but no thanks on Skinner...lol.

DREW


Fri Feb 27 2015 11:00 am EST

Canes also shopping Skinner, hes other guy Hawks are in on.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:59 am EST

Im expecting a series of tweets, near-deal, no-deal type bull to begin shortly. Found Legwand's name in my first email this morning. Whatever. If Chicago grabs Cammaleri from NJ it may mean we're still in on Glengross, Vermette or Stewart. Otherwise id guess those ships sailed and its down to Bozak and maybe Legeand? Toronto's the only team thay plays the same or bigger media games with this stuff than the Rangers. Theyve got their own network plus their plants all over tsn/rds, make a real mess of it. Guess everybody became a big Bozak fan overnight! Now hes goin everywhere!

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:59 am EST

I don't think a team with TRUE cup aspirations should look at him. Too much of a risk. I mean if he was on a 20 goal pace, and just underperforming his contract some I could see it at a reduced cost, but not at a 3 goal pace.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:58 am EST

Rhet: I could see a couple teams, perhaps the Oilers, maybe the Sabers, the AVS may even look his way. Especially at a reduced cost, if it was 3.5 mil per, or 4 mil per he would be paid at a rate that many 3rd line forwards get, but perhaps with a different situation he will rekindle some of his goal scoring and be an asset for a young rebuilding team.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:54 am EST

With that...if they would pick up 50% of his contract, and he only cost 3.5 mil per for 3 more years would anyone do it? depending on cost of course. I feel like I would say no, however I wonder what you all think.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:54 am EST

WILD.... I was reading about that this morning. Who would want to help them out of that contract, even at a prorated price?

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:50 am EST

Apparently Canes are shopping Semin, agreeing to retain a "substantial portion" of his contract.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:50 am EST

Another possibility. When my Mom got the flu, her necks so sore and stiff that she couldn't lift her head up or turn it to the left, for like 2 days. They were talking about the flu, I wonder if perhaps he was battling it, and the major symptom he got was the neck thing. That would also account for a lackluster effort, if he just got over being sick for a couple days. From how twitter was the other day it seems there were more than just 1 or 2 guys under the weather, and Nash had been given a day off as well. Just another possibility. However if that IS the case he will look better next game because by then he will have been resting and eating well.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:43 am EST

stevie; Re Nash - yes if his neck was still a little sore I get that (although I would counter that he shouldn't have played at all, lest it worsen). I won't relax over this particular episode until I see him playing as he was prior to it starting. Call me paranoid, that's ok. It's all part of being a long time Ranger fan and enduring all kinds of crap like this (re Ratelle's broken ankle courtesy of a Dale Rolfe shot).

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:39 am EST

Limbo: Vets make mistakes and lose key draws also. Just play the best players that give you a chance to win. And replace the ones that dont.

stepunmytoe


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:34 am EST

Rhet0ric - Thanks. I guess what made me think of it was the fact that the net was totally pushed back and therefore no goal could have been scored against us. Why not take advantage of the situation?

ges999


Fri Feb 27 2015 10:20 am EST

less than 77 hours, trade for somebody......if you were Nash would you be looking to make contact or avoid it, and possibly getting hurt or more hurt ?....sometimes you have to play smart too......there is no golden rule.....

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 9:59 am EST

Vic - I completely agree with you on Hayes. The kid just oozes hockey sense. He looks like he will be Joe Thorton-lite for many years. But, and I think this is Hospo's issue - he's a kid. He's gonna make mistakes. He's gonna lose key draws. In the playoffs - those little things send a team home real quick. And for a team that, in all other ways, is built for a cup run NOW, those sort of things should not be on the radar.

limbo


Fri Feb 27 2015 9:52 am EST

ges999..... I believe this happened in a game back in January. The goalie can be pulled for the extra attacker. Here is the actual rule..... When the net is accidentally displaced by an attacking player, and the defending side is in possession of the puck and moving out of their zone, play shall be permitted to continue until such time as the non-offending team loses possession of the puck. The resulting face-off will take place at a face-off spot in the zone nearest the location where the play was stopped, unless it is in the non-offending team’s defending zone, and as such the ensuing face-off would be outside the blue line at one of the face-off spots in the neutral zone. It is possible for a goal to be scored at one end of the rink while the net at the other end has been dislodged, provided that the team being scored upon is the team responsible for dislodging the net at the other end of the rink. http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26355

Rhet0ric


Fri Feb 27 2015 9:38 am EST

RF4L: Before I head out for the day I wanted to agree with your NASH comments. He played a perimeter game last night and avoided contact. He had two opportunities where he got the puck along the left boards on a partial breakaway and instead of taking the puck to the net he leaned away and let go long wrist shots when the defender got close. He looked more like the NASH of last year then what we saw since the beginning of this season. Hopefully it was just a bad game. If, however, he reverts back to playing like he did last year the Rangers are in big trouble.....

Vic


Fri Feb 27 2015 9:07 am EST

RF-agree on MSL-avoids ANY and all contact. His 2 penalties were stupid-the first when he fanned on an easy rebound near the net and then tripped the player who took the puck from him. He and Boyle lose the puck constantly by themselves! I thought the defense the last 10 games has been extremely careless in their own end clearing the puck. Girardi, Staal, MCD & of coursee Boyle-have all been guilty of it-it's led to long shifts that usually leads to goals or penalties against. We used to call it the 10 foot rule-if you are 10 feet from your blueline-you better get it out. If you are 10 feet from the offensive blueline-you better get it deep.

puckyou


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:47 am EST

"Mickey Mantle? Is that what you're upset about? Mickey Mantle makes $100,000 a year. How much does your father make? You don't know? Well, see if your father can't pay the rent go ask Mickey Mantle and see what he tells you. Mickey Mantle don't care about you, so why should you care about him? Nobody cares." That's what I think about whenever people start taking talk about a player personally. The Rangers sucked last night....that includes Hayes and his line and all the other lines too. Talbot let in that "one bad goal" yet again. But, the Rangers won anyway. That's what counts.

JFC31


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:37 am EST

HOSPO: I'm not offended. But IMHO your bias shows through. You want the Rangers to acquire VERMETTE so badly that you are looking to find fault with the 3rd line (and HAYES in particular) every game. Last night you could have come on here and singled out some guys that had some really bad games and were mostly invisible and instead you singled out MILLER and HAYES. It wasn't MILLER's best game for sure but he wasn't awful either. You could have singled out STAAL who gave the puck away in the first minute of the game that lead to Arizona's first goal. You could have singled out STAAL again on the 5 on 3 goal when STEPAN actually won a draw cleanly and got the puck back to STAAL. He had time to clear the puck and instead he just flipped it right to the point and turned it over. You could have singled out TALBOT for playing a pretty shaky game throughout. You could have singled out the BRASSARD line for some bad turnovers and some lackluster play. You could have singled out the STEPAN line for being invisible the entire game and for STEPAN being treated like a turnstile by LESSIO. You could have even singled out HAGS for turning the puck over uncharacteristically a few times. On a night when the Rangers got absolutely no contribution from the first two lines and the first PP unit you singled out HAYES who created two goals for and was a plus 1 on the night. That is pretty telling in my book. I've never made the fact that I like the kid a secret. I said here in October that I haven't been this excited by a Ranger rookie since AK27. Still, I don't pop on here every game and post about how awesome he was and how great he played. The only time I've talked about him much is to defend him against what I think is unfair criticism, like last night. As I've said all along the kid has warts in his game. He is learning quickly and he has the potential to be a star in this league in short order. But most of all he has been a positive contributor all season long and has not been a liability to this team. It is actually pretty special that after getting those first 40 games or so under his belt that he has been a point a game player since. How many times have we seen that before from a Ranger rookie?

Vic


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:36 am EST

Nash was invisible too. That worries me.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:34 am EST

And agreed on MSL last night. He avoids like the plague any physical contact. What he's doing, however, with this lousy play is making it easier for Sather to decide between him and MZA.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:33 am EST

Gene: Agree wholeheartedly on Shitiletti. I have the center ice package and usually find the opposing team's broadcast to watch, meaning I'm subjected to some inane biase stuff. That's how much that man bothers me.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:30 am EST

ges: That's an interesting scenario that to my knowledge has never happened because that sort of chance would be so rare. I'll bet there's no rule opposing it (why would there be - you can pull your goalie anytime you please) but if it happened and the team scored, there'd be some noise from the opposing team about it.

RF4L


Fri Feb 27 2015 8:26 am EST

The Rangers played awful last night yet won. That's sort of good. What is horrendous is Micheletti. He contributes nothing to the broadcast. As a color man he is suppose to give insight into a pro's view of what is happening on the ice, maybe point out what the average fan may miss. What we get, often during the most exciting parts of the game, is the family history of an opposing player, a season ticket holders death, and inane conversation with Sam who, by the way, gets caught up in this babble and has significantly diminished his performance as a play by play guy. It may just be me, but I think this pair is awful and painful to bear.

gene_carr


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:45 am EST

Question for those that know the rules intimately: After the Coyote player slid into the net and the net came totally off its mooring, the Rangers had possession and went down the other end and were able to get a shot on goal. I would assume that if the Coyotes had taken possession of the puck before the Rangers took a shot the play would have been blown dead. If that is the case, knowing that there was no way Arizona could have scored, could Talbot have skated to the bench and been replaced by an extra player or is that verboten?

ges999


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:39 am EST

Question for those that know the rules intimately: After the Coyote player slid into the net, the Rangers had possession and went down the other end and were able to get a shot on goal. I would assume that if the Coyotes had taken possession of the puck before the Rangers took a shot the play would have been blown dead. If that is the case, knowing that there was no way Arizona could have scored, could Talbot have skated to the bench and been replaced by an extra player or is that verboten?

ges999


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:31 am EST

Good morning. Seems Marty is back in the rut again as for the second game in a row he seemed to be invisible. Just like Calgary the previous game, Arizona had a good forecheck which caused us lots of problems getting out of our own end. JT snake bit as he has been robbed 2 games in a row. Nice to see Moore stick up for himself (since no one else will).

ges999


Fri Feb 27 2015 7:16 am EST

MF in MOORE what I saw was a guy who is a great skater who at the lower levels was able to mask his deficiencies and mistakes with his skating ability. The problem is at the NHL level you can't hide it. There is no definition to moores game. Hes not an offensive defenseman, nor is he a stay at home dman, that would suggest he's a hybrid but he's not that either. He can skate with the puck and do so with speed but I noticed at high speeds his playmaking drops tremendously. He doesn't see the play developing and he often skates one or two strides too many which forces him into a bad situation he doesn't read what's happening around him. He actually has a very good shot but he doesn't know how to use it in traffic. The worst part is you could live with his lack luster defense if he was creating offense but he's not. I saw him as a hockey iq deficient prospect with great skating. I saw him as a poormans MDZ at best. The thing with MDZ was he was nasty when he hit and forget the potential to score 40 points he could score 40 points. MDZ was a hybrid where as Moore was the promise of one that was just never going to happen. Does that mean that won't change? No hockey iq can be learned the question is does he have the desire? How many coaches have been with this kid and the same problems are still there.

York18


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:48 am EST

Yeah lol. Even tougher when looking at guy you might get dealt for. Gotta think Vermette to CHI-BOS. could change naturally. Some said Maloney not moving Yandle, decided to build around him & Handzal because they do have to reach cap floor. Who knows? But Gagner wouldnt look bad here either.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:43 am EST

Rabid: yesterday, maybe the day before a little, was the first time quite a few Ranger players were in the rumor mill. So there is a psychological issue at play. Last night may have been the first time the team really dealt with themselves or teammates being moved. Arizona on the other hand has lived with that reality for some time, makes it easier for them to handle at this point.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:30 am EST

Boyle's not killin us, just ugly to watch. Killin is what I just read Carp do to MSL. "Struggled in every part of game. Holy Guacamole". Yup. But thats not killin the team, just a bad game. Marc Staal hasnt looked great to me. Talbot, especially in first minutes, not so hot. Lotta guys. Still the dog days. After Monday they relax, then stretch adrenaline should kick In. At least I hope it will....

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 6:16 am EST

Another thing with Boyle. He according to the new NHL stats page leads in CORSI and Fenwick. That means the games he has played while on the ice the Rangers get more shots than the other team and have more unblocked than the other team. I'm not a huge stats guy...but they show trends...you can't lead in stats as the worst player...it appears he is better than most of us think.

Wildcard


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:49 am EST

Remembered a guy, Tyler Biggs, Rangers liked his draft year that was grabbed by Toronto 22nd overall. Protypical PF type, could have been a decent throw in if we get it on in a Bozak deal, especially if NYR do some Hartford housekeeping. Keep thinking of a kid like Bourque, hes put in his time. If hes not even going to get a chance hes got to ask out eventually, and Leafs want to restock, speed & skill. But Biggs is on the way to Bustville. Got sent to echl and now the A with Marlies, 2 goals in 50 games. Dont care how big & tough, youve gotta score sometime to stick.anyway, picks like that are why Burke got axxed, and this kid had the pedigree, dad was nhler, he can skate...goes to show its between the ears. 22overall also where John Moore went (I believe), and if I had to guess thats whats on the table for Bozak. Moire, Kristo, theyrw probably fighting over draft picks . Dont know Rangers do it. But Leafs pushing, leaking how Ducks interested. Think they want it done today, gave weekend to get ready for Monday.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 5:13 am EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/27/after-strange-neck-spasms-nash-returns-to-rangers-lineup/

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:54 am EST

a little food for thought: Boyle has one less point than Staal and Girardi, has played 17 fewer games.

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 3:11 am EST

RHD real hard to find, which is how we got stuck Boyle lol. Not now but we know CBJs want to dump Wishniewski. Hes not making it easy haha. First time I heard of a player manipulating a nmc like that. Maybe we can work something out in summer. Might have to bite Boyle bullet. For now hope he earns his bread. He was hot just a few games ago.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 2:05 am EST

Toronto's David Booth played for AV 2-3 years back on the Nucks... See he's signed at $1.1mill, UFA after this season.. This site says he's a speedy winger... http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?4515

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:52 am EST

Letestu, Anisimov, Korpikosky

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:43 am EST

and dealing boyle is a Big If, since 35+ and NTC, plus salary

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:42 am EST

a RHS is not perfect for us

Messier11


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:06 am EST

MF - I'll play that after playing Name That 3rd Line Forward!

Hospo


Fri Feb 27 2015 1:06 am EST

AZ Zbynek Michalek RHS Dman, (upper body injury, day to day) he'd be perfect 3rd line material w JMoore $mill & a UFA after this season.. again, gets us out of cap hell for nesxt year if we deal DBoyle.....

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:59 am EST

Another exciting late night episode of, "leave no stone unturned," .... How about calling up Detroit or any other team looking for a RHS defenseman and offer Dan Boyle: 43gp/8g/7a/15pts..... We could then look at a Wisniewsky (CBJ) RHS $5.5mill for 2 yrs after this..... What to go tough it up a bit; Roman Polak (TO) $2.75mill for this yr & 1 more.. We'd play him 3rd line RD, and I think 3rd line is perfect for this guy.. Built like a brick poophouse.. Thats strong! ... (WSH) Mike Green, $6mill and an UFA after this season... a play like this gets us out of CAPurgatory for next year.... I'll find us a RHS Dman to take his spot.....

mf


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:27 am EST

Thats why I didnt even want to think about it KIS LOL. But listen, its maybe not all that dire. His testing had to be ok, ghats first and biggest. People wrote him off last year and he got healthy enough to be a Hart candidate. Its how you respond to another shot & everyones different. For all we know its just like anyone else who got knocked dopey, could clear right up. Apparently this chair works wonders. Look at Crosby, first prominent guy to use it. He was looking done, then came back and broke his jaw, and hes ok. We dont know. Itd be a terrible thing. Cause this guy is a WHALE of a player. But itll never be drastic enough for your proposal! lol kerp our fingers crossed.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:16 am EST

RR, thats a scary thought. If the guy got his bell rung again its only a matter of time before he becomes Eric Lindros. If he got his bell rung again rhe Rangers need to do something drastic. He definitely didn't look right.

KIS


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:14 am EST

its late and i'm on a roll. If you want to make a splash, trade talbot, MZA (because rangers will resign MSL), J moore, Mcilrath(poor kid wont get a shot here) and a second for Hall and Petry from Edmonton. Make the trade because if Nash gets lost again at least the Rangers have another big time player. If Edmonton needs more look to lindberg . Have fun, yeah I know its fantasy but thats what needs to be done if you want a major change to try for the cup. otherwise leave the team as is.

KIS


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:09 am EST

Kis, said it during game. No one knows how he feels but him. But it wasnt the beast we've seen all year for sure. He probably did get shook from that Bogo b.s. If so im sure he went right back in for baseline, which had to be okay ir he cant play. Give him a few weeks he'll hopefully clear up.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:03 am EST

Speaking of Boyle, had to laugh listening to Dave Farrish between periods when assessing our D. He got to Boyle and said, well, hes lost a step. Ok, a step & a half.... and... he was never that fast to begin with. He was tryin to be nice but I dont. Boyle cant be here next year. I dont ghink he & AV see eye toceye either. Thatd be two coaches in a row for Boyle. Just hope he can play well the next few months.hospo youre becoming a menace.

Rabid Ranger


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:03 am EST

Hayes and kid k have chemistry with 2 pp goals

stevielegs


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:03 am EST

In the off season resign Zucc let MSL go and get rid of Boyle. fill in with a youngster and or trade a couple and get a big player and the team stays competitive for a while and wins maybe a couple cups. This just might not be the year. I still think the team is to one dimensional.

KIS


Fri Feb 27 2015 12:01 am EST

as for trades, I say keep what we have unless something is gonna be that major of an upgrade. we can't give away kids for a person like Vermette. Just to win some more faceoffs. JT miller will be here in 3 years and Vermette would be beaten and probably done in the NHL. He isn't gonna put this team over the top. If you trade Miller, MZA and a duclair it shuld be to get a major upgrade like a Taylor Hall. All these other player aren't gonna make the diffrence

KIS


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:58 pm EST

RR, Pa and I were speculating, could nash have a head injury again and the Rangers are covering it up. guy looked like Nash of last year. He wasn't involved at all tonight.

KIS


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:44 pm EST

whats more, since Boyle is an over 35 contract even a buyout counts against the cap. Cant trade him to another team for the purposes of a buyout either. The good news is that it was just a two-year deal. Hopefully he finds his groove under AV. He's shown glimpses. Supposedly has the flu again, was almost scratched last game.

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:42 pm EST

VIC - REALLY? Talk about having a palmetto bug up your arse, it's like I said something personal about one of your family members!....Plain, and simple, from the moment i turned on the game at the beginning of the 2nd until the Rangers 4th goal, it is my opinion that the HAYES-MILLER-HAGS line was awful and basically invisible...Were they the only part of the team being outplayed by the lowly COYOTES? Of course not,..But aI thought they were the worst....And, since I think that is the place I think the Rangers should make a change for the POs, it's what I focused on..Sorry if that offeneded you.

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:39 pm EST

Yeah thatd be great MF. Except for the part where Hawks lose Sharp & 'gain' Richards lol. Maybe just me but dont think Richards is that much of a player anymore. VIC, heres my concern with Hayes going forward, FOs aside. He hit a wall and gas now caught a 2nd wind in fine fashion. But hes never played this much in his life, certainly not this level and it only gets tougher. If we dont add a center and his game falters its as big problem (which is why id have Lindberg in this mix. Also cause D Moore hasnt missed a shift all year) Thats why im ok with adding Bozak. but I dont think thatd detract from what Hayes has done. Hes establshing at a high kevel - albeit against lesser and less nasty teams. But he also didnt have the confidence he has now. Be interesting to see..

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:39 pm EST

Vic- YES. Healthy scratch a number of nights this season. Chicago cant wait for that contract to expire. Maybe the learning curve is slow, but Boyle is looking like not the best way we could have gone. However, we aren't getting out of the contract short of a trade, probably retained salary, which of course he'd have to agree to. No ones claiming him off waivers and we save no real cap room by demoting him. He's ours for now.

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:35 pm EST

Rozi is one slow dude... Vic, would you know if Boyle has an NMC or NTC? t/y

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:34 pm EST

Just bring in Andrew Shaw like you mentioned earlier.....and all we be great in this world

TradeStar28


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:33 pm EST

M11 and MF: True, I forgot ROZI was a RHS. But, BOYLE has worn pretty thin on me this year. I didn't like the signing and I like the way he has played even less. I really haven't watched ROZI play in a long time. Is he worse then BOYLE these days? That is hard to imagine......

Vic


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:27 pm EST

MF: If what is being said about SHARP is true then I don't want him in my locker room. Further, I can't see why Chicago would want RICHARDS. If they are going to spend money on a guy at the deadline it would be for VERMETTE or MZA. RICHARDS doesn't replace the offense that you lose with KANE out. VERMETTE and MZA don't either but they get you a lot closer then RICHARDS. The Rangers can't afford SHARP next year either so that makes any deal for him highly unlikely.

Vic


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:25 pm EST

VIC: Ditto, I like this kid & keep rooting for him to excel, I hope he makes it here... Rozi is an RHS....

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:25 pm EST

Vic- even forgetting that contract he's a RHS so either he, Boyle or Klein playing off-side and botching a lot of zone protection

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:22 pm EST

MF: That was me on the ROZI comment. Don't get me wrong, I was never a huge fan of ROZI in the first place. He was never a guy that deserved a $5 Mil per year contract. He was just he best the Rangers had at the time, which wasn't saying much. As a 6th D he'd be fine. But, I have no problem with MOORE in that spot. He started this year pretty rough but over the last month or so his game has come around. And, the kid pushes back. I like the fact that he is willing to hit and fight. I'd rather see him in there over HUNWICK at this point and I'd rather see him in there over spending assets to get another player who wouldn't be much (if at all) better. He was good in last year's playoffs and I am willing to give him another chance in this year's playoffs.

Vic


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:21 pm EST

Wonder how much Chicago may want Patrick Sharp out of there locker-room? Does this make sense: Sharp to the Rangers with Chicago eating $2mill in salary: Mike Richards to Chicago with LA eating $2mill in salary???? .... Sharp is signed @ $5.9mill this year & 2 more.... Mike Richards is signed @ $5.75mill for this year and 5 more... We'd also send TGlass to Chicago, if some peripheral picks / prospects are needed to sure the deal up, so be it....... That would leave up with Sharp for the next two years at a $3.9mill cap hit which we could always turn around and trade..... Just lock up your girls & wives.. :-)

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:17 pm EST

HOSPO: Really??!? You are going to single out HAYES in this game for your ire. That smells a lot like a guy who has a bug up his ass about a player. They don't win this game without HAYES. He had two primary assists in the game on two beautiful passes. The first for a slam dunk by KK. On the second he stole the puck and found STEMP all alone in front of the net. In the first period the 3rd line started the push back and drew the penalty that got the Rangers going in the game. In fact, this game was won by the 3rd and 4th line plus KK. Both of KREIDER's goals were scored when he was out with HAYES on the 2nd PP unit with the 15 to 30 seconds left on the PP that they were given after the first PP unit passed the puck around for 1:30 without contemplating a shot. On the second one HAYES had nothing to do with it as he lost the draw to VERMETTE but the point is that the 1st and 2nd lines didn't do much positive in this game at all. Further, going into tonight HAYES was 2nd on the team in goals scored since December 1. He has been close to a point a a game player over the last 15 games but still you jump on here almost every game and single him out as a guy who had a bad night. I don't get it.

Vic


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:17 pm EST

Penguins with Steve Downie........Caps with Brook Orpick and Tom Wilson......Bruins with Lucic and that gang of shit bag thugs.........Rangers better find a cleaner for the potential playoff series or they will have to rely on Tanner Heart of Glass to defend thy logo

TradeStar28


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:09 pm EST

MF - Not sure I agree, but there's still a trade deadline to get through....Rangers and Bruins always play tight games,always.

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:08 pm EST

Moore is also very tradeablecat a time they dont want to trade many people - and they need help.Hes replaceable short term for a late pick. Add it all up hes out man out I guess. But hes better than Hundwick.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:03 pm EST

Hospo, I'd rather face them than the Habs, Isles, TBL, Penquinista's in the 1st round.. Think we'd skate circles around them, can't see them keeping up over time..

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:01 pm EST

if it were just arbitration, Id say just give him an offer above QO, just good enough for him to say 'ok, one more year. Ill hold my arb rights'. It has to be more than just that. Maybe something approaching the Brooks article from earlier this season that we all thought was out of left field

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:01 pm EST

York18 had him sized up when he first got here, not sure what he spotted or detected in his game.. I keep hoping JMoore is going to surprise and make some quantum leap...........OAN: whoever suggested Rozsival coming back to New York; the day we traded him to Chicago was the last day DESPO posted here..... Where is Waldo?

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:58 pm EST

MF - Didn't say we won't beat them, although I'm not sure based on the 10 games or so...Either way it's still not an opponent I would like to start with,,,

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:55 pm EST

Well if we do make a trade & Stempniak is included, his value just upticked... Maybe he doesn't want to get traded...... Hospo, bring on the Bruins, we'll beat them handily... LGR !

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:54 pm EST

It was arbitration, as talked about here. Conversations elsewhere, some people think he just isnt going to make progress offensively. Id be surprised myself he ever breaks 30 pts, but hes got some of the skill for it. But this was knock on him with Cbjs. Scout said he looks great till u give him a puck. Idk

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:53 pm EST

And to me once again, it's a no brainer who I dress Hunwick vs Moore...don't get at all AV's handling of that scenario.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:50 pm EST

Mess: I think it would be about money saving next season. He will get a raise, and it might be more than they want to pay for him. But they don't NEED to trade him now, they could wait since he is an RFA, the draft or right around FA start.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:49 pm EST

All first place means is an opening round series with the BRUINS as the most likely opponent...Again, only watched the 2nd and 3rd period, the Skating Dead Coyotes were argubly the better team (especially against the Hayes-Hags-Miller line) except for the flub at the blue line and the one good shift for the 4th goal.....But hey, two points is two points... as long as that is all it is seen as and not much more,,,Broken record but Sather is digging his own PO grave if he doesn't pick up a 3rd line forward and preferably one that can win FOs....Just an opinion

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:47 pm EST

You don't save much money, if any money at all by dealing Moore. Moore makes 851k which is peanuts for his experience and ability. even some of our call-ups from the AHL would make more than him if they replaced him. You'll be Very Hard Pressed to find a replacement for him at less than 851k, even harder to find one with better use. I don't know why AV dislikes Moore, maybe he's got a thick head. Maybe its coming from Ulf, with whom Moore and Ulf Jr (not sure which one) has history. Maybe its Arniel. Someone doesn't like him/his play. Someone here mentioned Sather and upcoming RFA, I think he has arbitration rights. That is a pretty cool assessment, and honestly it sounds too much like Sather's MO to dismiss out of hand. But at what point do you stop because its affecting the outcome of games? So maybe some truth to both. Too bad, bc if Boyle and Moore developed a little chemistry, that would be a dangerous pairing to have on for offensive zone face-offs. //// To me its looking more and more like the Rangers will stand pat.

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:47 pm EST

First in the division with 2 games in hand. 3 points out of fist in the east with one game in hand on the Habs. 4th place in the NHL overall,1 point out of 3rd overall with 2 games in hand on the Ducks, and 3 points out of 2nd overall with that game in hand on the Habs (whoa re second overall). Now they are 7 points out of first overall with just 1 game in hand. But they are well within striking distance of home ice throughout the first rounds, and would only not have home ice if they faced Nashville. At least as it stands now. Not bad...not bad at all, especially with Hank being out for such a stretch, and having missed Stepan and Boyle for a big chunk earlier in the season.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:45 pm EST

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/standings#/division

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:45 pm EST

Well it's about time Stempniak did something. Maybe he belongs on the 3rd line to take better advantage of his skillset because IMO he's a lousy 4th liner.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:37 pm EST

27-6 last 33? Im losin track lol. Id usually put Trader Phil to shame but you dont want to mess with this too much. Fortify. Idk theyll make any clear 'adds". Except for draws, is Bozak better than Hayes? Idk that. Moore played very well. Still dont know why theyre intent on trading him except for $. Thats cause theyre carrying expensive, dead weight. The kind that flies the zone constantly to try to keep up.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:28 pm EST

or maybe just to the players

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:28 pm EST

something noticeable in the last few games. This team, unlike Torts' teams, has the ability to adjust at period intermission and come out a different team. Probably more a testament to AV than a knock on Tortorella

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:25 pm EST

Andrew Gross....... Kreider on Talbot: "He's one of the mentally tougher goaltenders I’ve ever been around, nothing really fazes him and that’s huge."

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:23 pm EST

Oh God Dubi's lucky.....

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:21 pm EST

I think in shoot-out goals...that Dubinsky injury looked potentially nasty.

NYStranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:18 pm EST

Bozak to Anaheim buzz. Did we score 45 Torts' whole tenure?

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:14 pm EST

MikeMikeMikeMikeMikeMikeMike...what day is it?

NYStranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:12 pm EST

FIRSTPLACEFIRSTPLACEFIRSTPLACEFIRSTPLACEFIRSTPLACEFIRSTPLACEFIRSTPLACEFIRSTPLACE.... who's in first place?

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:11 pm EST

RR and that is all that matters in the end - score more goals than the other team. Right now this Rangers team is rolling offensively. And they will certainly need to keep it up with the way they play without the puck!

NYStranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:06 pm EST

JT took slash to hand. Thats when AV moved Stemp up. Hayes two huge assists. A dozen games without Hank, 1 loss. Helps when you score 45 goals in those 12 games.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:03 pm EST

1st place !

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:52 pm EST

Well, AV pushed the right buttons. Benched Miller (again) and Stempniak scored the winner in his place. This guy can coach. Way too difficult, but a good win.

Bob


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:51 pm EST

Wow..Nothing new there..TWO POINTS..But ugly, ugly flawed hockey against a pitiful team...Letting up 40 shots to a dead team skating with 4-5 guys thinking about playing elsewhere in 2-3 days..Pfrobably, the best thing possible..A win and two points..but showing gthe teams flaws...Tdeam defense pitiful..forwards defense sucked...Only watched periods 2 and 3, but Hayes and Miller struggled big time..Thank God for STEMP...Poor effort as a team FO wise but two key wins at the end of the game...SATHER get your ass in geaf

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:48 pm EST

Flat, flat, flat after the first 5 minutes and still won. Good teams find a way.

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:46 pm EST

McDonagh put his face right in the line of fire on that last attempt.......lol

TradeStar28


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:45 pm EST

whew

TradeStar28


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:43 pm EST

this won't go so good....see ya OT

TradeStar28


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:42 pm EST

greg louganis lookin bitch aquavelvet

TradeStar28


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:41 pm EST

What is that, 4, 5 players with 2-goal games in the last 5?

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:40 pm EST

Stempniak streaking again

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:40 pm EST

2 goals for Stemniak? I must be dreaming.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:39 pm EST

Yeah....called it! First place here we come mother fuggaz!

TradeStar28


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:39 pm EST

Glencross & vermette rumoured heavy to Chi. STEMPER!!

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:29 pm EST

Arcobello having a good game. Was claimed off waivers and traded twice for little this season. Ppl here would have complained another smallish forward. Good third line offense, was on Edmonton first for a while last season. Cheap contract, not very old yet. Just small.

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:28 pm EST

Kreiders goal was quick strike capability like weve never had in my lifetime.its why we're never out of games. Talk about a D shittin his pants lol. That was a four step deficit that he reversed & scored on his own rebound Ha... Then Smith takes a penalty. Hysterical.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:16 pm EST

Rhetoric- streamo has been my backup since I found drakulastream. Several options per game. Have to close so many pop ups though

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:11 pm EST

how bout a goal from Ren & Stempy?

TradeStar28


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:07 pm EST

No excuse not to win this game...Yotes played last night, Rangers didn't. 1st place is right there....GO AFTER IT!

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:05 pm EST

I'm thinking I saw this earlier and forgot about it ....or.... it's just a case of deja vu.... The Hockey News...... Clarkson-for-Horton deal shows CBA can be legally circumvented, says @THNKenCampbell http://bit.ly/1DXQQbA

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:03 pm EST

Thanks Mess!!!!

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:00 pm EST

Mess.... what's drakulastream and does it suck? Had to be asked :) ......Thanks NN!!!!

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:59 pm EST

I wonder if the Clarkson for Horton deal will be considered cap circumvention?

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:58 pm EST

Maloney says that penalty is crap.

Bob


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:58 pm EST

Rhet: I am in suite behind the Yotes bench so I will see if Vermette comes out for the third

DOUBLEN


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:58 pm EST

rhetoric- drakulastream

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:53 pm EST

Rabid - aboot? Kreider is one of the fastest players in the organ EYE zation, eh?

DREW


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:53 pm EST

Now we have our answer why we fell behind 3-1 :) ....jk.... Keep reporting from the game NN.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:51 pm EST

At the game and that last goal was a WOW

DOUBLEN


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:50 pm EST

Does anyone have a better suggestion for streaming the game? Streamo is little slow-o :)

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:50 pm EST

former Blue and Yote TYSON Nash doing color commentary on Arizona feed, says Messier one of his absolute favorite players growing up. He had some of his toughness, but I'd have pegged him for more of a Fleury or Tikkanen fan.

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:50 pm EST

Maloney says that penalty is crap.

Bob


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:49 pm EST

Albert says that is Vermette's first assist as a Ranger :)

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:46 pm EST

Talk aboot going past a D like he was standing still. WOW.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:45 pm EST

Oh ye of little faith

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:45 pm EST

THE KREIDER. That is all.

THE Kreider


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:45 pm EST

WE TIE, WE TIE, WE TIE!!!

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:44 pm EST

Let's see if he comes out for the 3rd. Well, he did say close and not done.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:44 pm EST

He's SO sick.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:42 pm EST

Just thought that. But theyd pull him, I would think.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:41 pm EST

I'm thinking it's Vermette and they wont announce the deal until after the game is over :)

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:40 pm EST

Dom Moore is horrible with a hockey puck.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:36 pm EST

Attn Hospo: Chris Kuc (Chicago Tribune)....... GM Stan Bowman said #Blackhawks are "getting pretty close" to making a trade.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:35 pm EST

One thing I have noticed; every guy we thought there was maybe a chance could come here has SUCKED when we played them; Thorton, Stewart, Staal, Vermette has done nothing. Onyl one game but think our brass really likes to see that.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:34 pm EST

On GLENCROSS ... Great, like we need another winger.

THE Kreider


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:33 pm EST

Friedman speculates we may still be asking Glencross to expand his list. Wash & StL are all over him supposedly too.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:31 pm EST

Nash doesnt look anywhere near top speed to me....

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:28 pm EST

RR... Oddly enough, that would not surprise me :)

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:28 pm EST

We should hold off losing to Connor McDavid's team until Connor McDavid is actually on the team.

Bob


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:26 pm EST

Rangers look like they're TRYING TO lose! Friggin stupid penalties!

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:25 pm EST

he does not.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:24 pm EST

Vermette's invisible out there too. He could have points tonight for all I know but another sleeper.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:22 pm EST

tonight's the first night I really dont like Talbot's game at all. he's off and slow to react & sloppy.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:21 pm EST

haha Rhet. he thought game was in AZ. he's sitting in an empty arena LOL.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:21 pm EST

haha.... speaking of ice cold, went to get a fresh beer and missed Stemper's? Ok.... weird game. AZ's a weird team.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:21 pm EST

BOYLE = useless. He's done.

THE Kreider


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:20 pm EST

Why don't the NYR have a scout at the Coyotes game? :)

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:19 pm EST

After playing and losing last night, Yotes should start fading...Rangers need to press and take advantage.

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:18 pm EST

Ice cold! Alright, alright, alright, alright ...

THE Kreider


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:16 pm EST

J Moore can't catch a break.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:08 pm EST

Whadda you got ice water in your viens Kreider? Think its fun to go home and tell your wife & kids? they gotta leave heir schools and friends. or often, the player can see their family for months. its pretty messed up. I know their millionaires and all but.....

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:06 pm EST

With all the meh teams we've played, we were bound to not get up for someone. Plenty of time left though.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:03 pm EST

Trade deadline jitters?! What is this, amateur hour?

THE Kreider


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:03 pm EST

1st place in reach and this team is down 3-1 to a western conference non playoff team on an east coast road trip. 0-7 in their last 7. Go figure?

LetsGoRangers


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:02 pm EST

think about half the guys on the ice have the jitters. They hate this time of year. Cant blame'm...

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:00 pm EST

Maybe trade deadline jitters....

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:52 pm EST

Putrid effort against a terrible team. SkApski with his Garden debut?

Bob


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:48 pm EST

Blues reacquire Cracknell from CBJ for futures. They lost him on waivers earlier this season. Strong connex between those two offices so they just shuffled him around. good, checking spare wing.

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:46 pm EST

Take out TALBOT ... if anything, to wake them up.

THE Kreider


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:45 pm EST

Only 17 sog for coy doggies

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:45 pm EST

maybe we should trade for Gagner.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:41 pm EST

Box is crowded like the 70's! LOL....

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:38 pm EST

Elbow to Moore's grill. Head main point of contact. No call.

Bob


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:35 pm EST

there goes that chimichanga Hospo likes. Bit of a cheap shot. God job by Moore going after him.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:30 pm EST

Just visited the 'Hawks' board for some reason. It's like here (except for the Cups). GM messed up signing Bickell at $4 million (can't disagree there) and our fave -- Rozie! Because the dough cost them Leddy. GM not addressing thin D, should have dealt for Sekera ... Q not playing yoots ... GM not trading yoots for vets ... fans are alike all over.

Nick


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:30 pm EST

Pretty sure Vermette would be the first no. 50 in NYR history. Just sayin'....

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:29 pm EST

there he is...

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:29 pm EST

That too ;) You seen Nash yet? Cant say i have...

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:27 pm EST

Nah it's their Achilles heel , playing on their heels and backing in. They rarely stand up guys at the blue line.

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:27 pm EST

Yes I am last with the news yet again!

Nick


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:25 pm EST

THE Kreider. That is all.

THE Kreider


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:25 pm EST

Its just their legs arent going early here Stevie. Could still be up 4-1very easily Could also be 4-4 Haha..

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:25 pm EST

They = thru

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:24 pm EST

Howdy Dowdy should of started tonight.

stepunmytoe


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:24 pm EST

Tic-tac-toe away we go!

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:24 pm EST

Leafs unload Clarkson ... to the NYR! No just kidding. To Columbus for Nathan Horton, who I thought was health-issue retirement bait. But hell, jettisoning Clarkson is a win.

Nick


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:23 pm EST

Nyr keep letting teams come they the neutral zone and fly into their zone, take shots, and can't get out of their zone. Team d is really lacking , taking talbot for granted.....and kid k a pp goal....

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:23 pm EST

Kreids Hayes Zucc....... I like it.

stepunmytoe


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:23 pm EST

there's that chemistry! perfect setup Shaggy.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:19 pm EST

That C Lessio is a big pain in the ass, 3-4 times already. K, talkin to myself here, so, time for a beer, or 3 or 4.. :) ..

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:17 pm EST

Smith already STONED Glass, Miller, MSL. Damn.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:15 pm EST

Oooooooohhhh.....robbery.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:11 pm EST

did that say Marco Polo?

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:10 pm EST

Game started, Cam.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:09 pm EST

This guy (Patrick Sharp)? http://youtu.be/V8WfufurQoo

DREW


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:09 pm EST

Whaaaat, Bob? That old storyline seems to get repackaged every year with new players (and wives haha). But ya never know. Man Sharp is a guy Id absolutely FLIP to see here. The best righty LW out there, fast as @#$%. Doubt highly it happens now. Hawks cant lose that firepower with Kane out.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:06 pm EST

thats why my mind boggles reading things sometimes (often). all anyone says is how they dont have cap space, every day, all over. Wrong. They've nurtured the little bit of space they've had since camp. And it counts for a lot this time of the year.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:04 pm EST

Word from Chicago is that Patrick Sharp was bumping uglies with Kane's girlfriend AND Duncan Keith's wife. Who can we send the Chicago for Patrick Sharp?

Bob


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:00 pm EST

So according to nhlnumbers.com the Rangers have currently 1.248 mil in cap space (that will go up a smudge each day they don't add someone but not much...at least I think so) now there is a bonus cushion of 3.359 that I don't think is factored in. However if the use that this year it comes off the cap next year.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:00 pm EST

So according to nhlnumbers.com the Rangers have currently 1.248 mil in cap space (that will go up a smudge each day they don't add someone but not much...at least I think so) now there is a bonus cushion of 3.359 that I don't think is factored in. However if the use that this year it comes off the cap next year.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:50 pm EST

Well now youve done it Hospo. You know Moore's a little psycho. He may decide its time for another suspension and concuss V. Thatd be great. Bozak, btw, perfect decoy material. Good enough to acquire and cheap enough too. If it comes to it, pick him up. But thats great leverage. Sather's a duck hunter. Wonder if he wears his getup to the office deadline time haha...

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:46 pm EST

errrr...KORPEDO..

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:46 pm EST

RABID - I'll hold you to that!..:)....OK, Rangers get the two points..and don't get anybody hurt....especially VERMETTTE..or Yandle, Koepeo, Chipacura (hey, ya never know!)

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:43 pm EST

I think your dream is alive Hospo.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:42 pm EST

NASH in..Thank God...MOORE in for Hunny..

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:41 pm EST

So if true NYR had $3-3.5 in space, they could basically take on $10m in players (like Vermette & Yandle, or Staal & Sekera before he was dealt). Started sayin that in January, though id like black & white confirmation on that #. Unless I m forgetting something they didnt add anyone after sending duke to the Q. Staal signed new deal but that hits next year.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:40 pm EST

PUCKYOU - Yeah, why I mentioned Richards from the Flyers....I hadn't hear about the Equipment manager and his surviving family....Sad stuff..

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:39 pm EST

Rabid: believe what? Not sure what your talking about.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:38 pm EST

OK, RABID, you gotta at least give me one tidbit! Don[;t worry about the naysayers!

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:37 pm EST

Hospo- read the Hawk article you posted- hinted very strongly that Sharp was cheating on his wife with someone( like Shanny/Janney incident ). Also, I heard a story about the equipment manager for the Hawks who killed himself recently that was none too pretty and doesn't reflect well on the club. The guy left a wife and 4 kids- Quenville was very emotional at the press conference. That team has some major issues at the moment.

puckyou


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:36 pm EST

WILD - and ..BoZaK is somewhere between 4 and 5 mil? :) Maybe now TOR can also absorb GLASS's contract to help even more...?

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:36 pm EST

Now you believe it Wild?

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:33 pm EST

Horton likely never will play again. Leafs will pay him, but like Pronger, will be on LTIR for remainder of his contract, giving Leafs cap room. Guess CBJ wanted a player for their money- Horton contract was uninsured.

puckyou


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:32 pm EST

Ok. Good reference folks. According to nhlnumbers.com a Clarkson has a season hit of 5.25 mil. His CAP HIT showing on the Jackets is 1.27. So the Rangers COULD take on a player who is at about 5 mil annual hit with their reported cap space.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:22 pm EST

WOW, funky trade of no consequence to the Rangers.....CLARKSON to CBJ for HORTON...

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:22 pm EST

Clarkson to Jackets. Could open door for Hartnell exit ?

stepunmytoe


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:20 pm EST

VIC - Could be what happens.....but, being this close, I think Sather holds onto him even if they don[t get a deal done..and faces it in the off-season...............However........with Kane out, been rumored that CHICAGO might be looking for a more offensive player than VERMETTE...I would guess MZA could fit into that category....:)......I don't want to deal MZA but would love for CHI to go elsewhere other than VERMETTE and the BRUINS also, than maybe the price becomes more reasonable! One can hope..

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:13 pm EST

Every hour that goes by where we don't hear about MZA being resigned makes it more and more likely that he will be dealt by Monday. We aren't even hearing that the two sides are talking. That is a bad sign IMHO. SATHER is a moron if he allows MZA to walk in July. And if MZA won't sign by Monday SATHER should already have a deal worked out with Chicago. The loss of KANE would be somewhat easier to swallow if they had MZA. The Rangers might be able to get SHAW and resolve that #6 D spot all in one swoop. MZA for SHAW and ROZI??? Move SHAGGY to RW with NASH and BRASSARD and put SHAW in as the 3rd line Center. The numbers would work out as well.

Vic


Thu Feb 26 2015 5:32 pm EST

Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord Whetted appetite, per 'Yotes notes: Vermette 7th in the NHL in FO% (56.1%), 3rd in FOW (750), 5th in Total FO (1,337), 4th in PP FOW (129).

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 5:32 pm EST

Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord Ranger Rants: From the other room as Ulf's son Henrik Samuelsson prepares for NHL debut/Korpikoski on trade rumors http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/ …

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 5:31 pm EST

Ian Mendes &#10004; @ian_mendes Jaromir Jagr has been in the NHL longer than the Florida Panthers.

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 5:22 pm EST

RF4L - Not me.not totally.....Not that I wanted Jagr..And in FLA's case, I don't think they make the POs making THIS specific move nuts.....But if you want a winning piece, you're gonna have to pay..simple as that..I couldn't care less about the picks.....It's All about getting the right player at the right time...That time is now for the Rangers,,,.........

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 5:14 pm EST

A 2nd and a 3rd for JJ? Crazy. And for a team that isn't even a PO spot currently. Glad Sather is staying away..

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 5:07 pm EST

Also on February 26, 2001, Mark Messier scored his 20th goal in a 3-2 Rangers loss against the Ottawa Senators. He was 40 years old.

DREW


Thu Feb 26 2015 4:56 pm EST

More importantly, 38 Years ago today, "SLAPSHOT" was released...Eddie Shore...Old-time Hockey..baby!

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 4:48 pm EST

A 2015 2nd and 2106 3rd for Jagr???

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 4:46 pm EST

Jagr to the Panthers?? The poor guy..And the poor NHL....I would much rather have seen him dealt to a slam dunk PO team..Like watching the guy play in the POs one more time...But, who knows..

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 4:40 pm EST

Jagr to Fla

puckyou


Thu Feb 26 2015 4:38 pm EST

SUNRISE, Fla. – Florida Panthers Executive Vice President and General Manager Dale Tallon announced today that the club has acquired F Jaromir Jagr from the New Jersey Devils in exchange for Florida’s second-round draft pick in 2015 and a conditional third-round draft pick in 2016.

DREW


Thu Feb 26 2015 4:37 pm EST

Hey - anyone hear Jagr to FLA?

DREW


Thu Feb 26 2015 3:20 pm EST

Some rumors going around that the BlackHawks dressing room is a mess with a lot of personal issues (can you say Mike Richards? Fritz Peterson amd Mike Kekich?)..could have a huge impact on trades for that team if true....http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/blackhawks-divided-over-locker-room-fight--personal-issues--reports-195228660.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 3:10 pm EST

I can see it now ... Game 7, Stanley Cup Finals, Rangers down one goal in the third ... JOKINEN is hauled down on a breakaway and given a penalty shot ...

THE Kreider


Thu Feb 26 2015 3:06 pm EST

Rumor has it that Ollie Jokinen started the Zombie Apocalypse #SPOILERS

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 3:05 pm EST

KORPIKOVSKY can win a face-off & he has wheels..Too bad he's not a RHS... But at a $2.8mill cap hit, I'll take him... to hell with Bozak if Toronto is asking for the moon & the stars....

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:49 pm EST

Wasn't Oli Jokinen featured on The Walking Dead? He didn't need make up.

Bob


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:48 pm EST

I really don't see those names mentioned (Hags, Miller, Jokinen, Bozak) as neccessarily representing a deal....could just be named being bandied about in an attempt to make a deal. It's obviously lopsided in the Leafs favor if you take it as THE deal. However, again I can see it as an indication that something is definitely in the works....this doesn't read like some internet rumor de jour. Don't discount that the Rangers might be interested in Jokinen...He could be an excellent component on the 4th line....he's defensively responsible and he can play wing....he's versatile and that seems to be something the Rangers crave. He would give AV options in toying with the bottom 6.

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:35 pm EST

Of course, intersted and what Sather does..but also very interested in what the Isles, Caps, Bruins, TB and Detroit do....The top 8 of the East will not be easy in the POs.

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:32 pm EST

WILD - That's an off-season worry.after you win the CUp..

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:26 pm EST

I'm sure TO would love for us to take back Jokinen but I don't see it happening unless they eat some of Bozak's contract(which I also don't see happening). JMWO.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:21 pm EST

Hospo: still couldn't affotd Vermette and his 6 mil he will land.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:19 pm EST

Doesn't sound like we have enough to get Vermette, but add me to the Hospo bus!

Ranger47


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:15 pm EST

Not sure if I like where this might be heading...Instead of BOZAK, Get VERMETTE for cheaper, and re-sign him, and don't re-up MSL in the Off-season,.

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:14 pm EST

I like Bozak, but not enough to trade Hags for him.

Bob


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:13 pm EST

Again. It's names mentioned. I imagine LOTS of names get brought up by either side...doesn't mean they are being offered...we shall see of course, but I don't think Sather gives up Miller PLUS Hags PLUS a second rounder for those two guys.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:13 pm EST

RHET - Appreciate the rumor but please god don't let it be true..Bozak, yeah, but the team gets slower and softer, if you can imagine that.

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:12 pm EST

Careful THE Kreider, James Dolan will be sending you an e-mail telling you to go root for the Islanders because the Rangers don't want you.

DREW


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:12 pm EST

http://blueseatblogs.com/2015/02/26/mckenzie-new-york-rangers-have-interest-in-tyler-bozak/

puckyou


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:10 pm EST

From https://twitter.com/rumorbreak: "Hearing talks between Rangers are heating up. Jokinen, Bozak, Hagelin and Miller all mentioned. Leafs want a pick as well (2nd)." If JOKINEN is coming to this team, I'm rooting for the Islanders.

THE Kreider


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:06 pm EST

No way Hags should go for Bozo. This is insane talk-to try and grab some percentage points on faceoffs. The Miller/Shaggy faceoff experiment has improved faceoff%-I don't want to give up assets for a center thaat is no better than our first 2 centers

puckyou


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:04 pm EST

https://twitter.com/rumorbreak

RF73


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:00 pm EST

I can't vouch for this guy, but here it is anyway.... Michael Grosso...... BREAKING - Hearing talks between Rangers are heating up. Jokinen, Bozak, Hagelin and Miller all mentioned. Leafs want a pick as well (2nd).

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 1:10 pm EST

Also mike van ryn

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:58 pm EST

According to brooks, we almost traded Richter to St Louis twice. Jackman was among one of the rumored returns, as was tkachuk, Nagy and a d prospect fizzle named jaro obsut

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:51 pm EST

Sam Carchidi..... Kimmo: if they want me to play Sat., I'm good to go.#Flyers

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:50 pm EST

MF - good point on Duclair and Domi. Rabid, apologies brother Im going back to the wall time machine. Does anyone recall that one of the teams we were going to trade Richter to was St. Louis? For Barret Jackman because he had great chemistry for Fillip Novak.

DREW


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:46 pm EST

Steve Zipay....... BTW, Coyotes did not make Antoine Vermette, subject of trade rumors, available after skate at MSG

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:46 pm EST

Daisy: Montreal should move some sh-ite around and go for Jordan Staal....

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:43 pm EST

Your man also says this Rhet; " NHL Trade Rumors @NHLTradeRumors · Feb 22 A source close to Jordan Staal said he would waive his no trade clause to return to Pittsburgh." So much for the reassurance.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:42 pm EST

Don't care who we play as long as we hold them to TWO GA's or fewer.... "Defense, Defense, Defense" wins ball games.....

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:41 pm EST

Thank you Rhet. I'm going to check it out. (I won't post anything from him).

DREW


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:40 pm EST

DREW: if we're going to move The DuClaw, as discussed here, AZ seems like the spot due to his supposed chemistry with MAX DOMI... I'd want AZ's 1st for next year included in any package.... Bring us SEAN DAY !!!!!!

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:39 pm EST

Drew.... If you're on Twitter..... @NHLTradeRumors_

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:38 pm EST

PETRY is a RHS.... Detroit is one team reportedly interested

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:38 pm EST

DREW.... Not a site, but I've been following this guy for a few years on Twitter. He's money.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:36 pm EST

WILD - Not my point.. before the season I said the Rangers would win the EAST regular season. Still think they can...The Rangers convinced me in January out west and coming back that they can beat good teams (and also loose to some)....but nothing convinced me that they still didn't have a few holes to WIN the POs.....My point, is that in Feburary, where the lineup has changed a little, the Rangers have mainly played and beaten 2nd Division/Non PO teams (say 10 out of 13) in alot of skating contests.....possibly masking the problems that I think are still there and might be more apparent against more challenging teams in PO like contests, which they will begin to face again AFTER the deadline...If i'm right, I know--a big IF, I would hope to god Sather doesn't stay with the Status quo because of the Feb success...

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:35 pm EST

Here's how you break down that b.s. rumor (which is no reflection one whoever took their time to bring it here; Miller or Hagelin (because we can dream & because we have to start somewhere, preferably STUPID high), John Moore (we'll take him), Danny Kristo (we'll take him too) and a 2016 1st (we'd love a first but are realists. NYR have 2 Twos and the whole league knows it. we'll take one and call it a good days work) for Bozak (thank God we got out of that contract. Bozak for Moore, Kristo, 2nd. Thats an honest trade. Rhet0ric

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:34 pm EST

JFC.... The guy I was quoting..... I wonder if Yorkie has heard anything about this?

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:34 pm EST

Rhet - on your souce, you site "NHL Rumors". Is that a site?

DREW


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:33 pm EST

e also have to remember, sometimes these sources say "they were talking with Sather, and I heard they talking Haglin and a 1st, as well as Miller" It doesn't mean that Sather didn't laugh at the guy and tell him " no way" it just means the players were discussed and the names have been heard. Or Sather may say, out of respect, "Ill think about it and get back to you" knowing full well he would make a counter offer, there is some of that in negotiations as well. You shut a guy down to hard rot fast and he will just look elsewhere, so you have to play the game.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:31 pm EST

Rhet -- surprisingly to who?

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:30 pm EST

I would also guess that it would be Miller instead of Hags (as the Rangers' preference) but if Hags should go, Zucc could easily fill his spot on the PK.

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:30 pm EST

NHL Rumors...... Surprisingly, Zuccarello was not discussed in a Bozak deal....... Trading Hagelin or a 1st is a non-starter for Sather, so deal is very unlikely

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:29 pm EST

Rhet -- just like Zucc's numbers seem to me to have a future deal written all over them, I'd say that rumor has the makings of a deal, too....yes, it's too high but I think it is close to doable. The base of MIller/Hags & Moore, Kristo is a 'meh', and the 1st could turn into a 3rd and voila!

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:28 pm EST

Yeah, that trade is way overpriced. No way on the 1st, or Hags...no way. Too important to what the team is trying to do with the speed game. IF (its a big if) you move Hags, you do it in the offseason at the draft and see what you can do. But now? No way. He is a big part of the PK and the 3rd line, he is going to be important down the stretch. Don't like Miller going either for a guy who is older like that...but than again, it all depends on what they think Miller will top out as. But you need to replace his style in the lineup IMHO....

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:27 pm EST

Called this last night. Not like Im horn-tootin', makes me very angry This guy should be fired for not disclosing he's related to the Leafs GM. It's not that first time he's out there whoring.. Makes me mad. "2/26/15 | 12:03PM: On TSN 1050 this morning, Darren Dreger said “there has been a bit of a buzz growing around Tyler Bozak, I am not convinced that Bozak will be traded by Monday but every day that goes by I am starting to lean toward the likelihood of Tyler Bozak being traded but it’s going to take the right deal. Toronto will have to get good players back or a decent younger player back. In Toronto, Bozak is on most nights the number one center, he may not be that for the New York Rangers or another team that has expressed some interest in him but if they want that player it’s going to take a quality offer or Toronto will hold onto him. Based on some of the dialogue swirling around Bozak, I would not be surprised if he gets traded.”

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:27 pm EST

Bob McKenzie..... ANA puts Bryzgalov on unconditional ($125) waivers. First step towards mutual termination of contract.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:25 pm EST

Hagelin would have to go for the Salary, I don't mind giving up Moore and Kristo is a throw-in, but a number one on top of that? Get bent.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:24 pm EST

No way to that trade. Not the first anyways. Miller, Kristo and Moore maybe. MAYBE.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:23 pm EST

JFC: The Rangers have won like 26 of the last 30 games....they have beat good teams in that stretch. I think we are just used to wining lots more than losing. Any 3 game stretch without a win would make this wall blow up...when was the last time they lost 3 in a row? Just looked November 13th(AVS), 15th(PIT) and 17th(TBL) and they have lost 2 in a row 3 times since then (once per month as it turns out) SO losing 3 in a row would be a major change from the "norm" that we have seen since mid November. And add to that, they only have one other 3 game losing streak, that back in October, the 11th, 12th, and 14th (CBJ,TOR,NYI) thinking about that, pretty amazing....and ad to that they were in the SCF last season. Was thinking about that the other day, the SCF teams share the seasons longest winning streak with 8. Usually the finals teams suffer the next season, not this year apparently.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:23 pm EST

NHL Rumors........ Led to believe the asking price is one of Miller or Hagelin, John Moore, Danny Kristo and a 2016 1st for Bozak

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:21 pm EST

I'm guessing they asked for JT Miller and we offered Kristo :)

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:20 pm EST

NHL Rumors....... There were discussions between Sather and Nonis re: Bozak. Names mentioned were John Moore, Carl Hagelin, Danny Kristo and JT Miller

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:12 pm EST

Excuse my ignorance, but how good is this PETRY kid? I can honestly say I have never taken note of him..but he seems to be in demand..JFC - Yeah, maybe a little too cynical :) but the point still there.....And AV has come close before, and he knows he has a very good but would like some reinforcements...Hopefully him and Sather are on the same page

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:07 pm EST

AV/Hayes -- exactly what I and many others have been saying/predicting....AV doesn't give a rat's ass about the effect on Hayes' development at center if he gets moved to wing. If going to wing makes the Rangers a better team NOW, that is all that he is interested in. He wants to win NOW.

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:05 pm EST

Hospo -- good, cynical, realistic post...imagine if Sather stands pat and we lose several games afterwards....The Wall would explode!! AAMOF, if Sather MAKES a trade or 2, there is STILL a good chance that we could drop 2 or 3 games in short order after the deadline and The Wall would explode! It's a perfect set-up for Wall angst....we're used to winning from facing weak teams. It would make sense to not do as well against stronger teams....but, since we'll face strong teams right after the deadline, Wallsters will react to losses regardless of how they think Sather did at the deadline. If Sather stands pat or just tinkers and we lose to the Preds and Hawks, it wil be because he didn't do enough at the deadline. If he makes a big move and we lose to the Preds and the Hawks, it will be because he got the wrong guys or he messed with team chemistry or whatever. Such is the reality in RangerTown.

JFC31


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:02 pm EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-vermette-glencross-and-petry-deals-close/

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:55 am EST

From GROSS - "AV praises Hayes versatility. Says rookie probably prefers playing center over RW/LW but Rangers are going to do "what's best for the team."...Love the words...let's see if it forshadows anything...

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:52 am EST

Rangers continue their February trash heap schedule of playing non-PO opponents tonight (AZ) and Sat with the flailing Flyers..Just get the two points...And don';t buy into the mirage Slats......Should be interesting after the Deadline where,they finally play a sttring of games against teams that matter and will test--Preds, Detroit,Chicago NYI and CAPS (last 4 on the road)..Looking forward to it..Hopefully with a new player or two,,,

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:42 am EST

NYR since 12/8-NHL best 26-6-2 Ranks: W– 1 (26).... PTS– 1 (54)...... PTS%- 1 (.794)...... ROW- 1 (24)...... Goal diff– 1 (+41)...... G/GP–T- 2 (3.26)........ GA/GP– 2 (2.09)........

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:36 am EST

Andrew Gross....... AV says Fast one to two practices away from being ready, depending on whether full morning skates count as full practices.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:33 am EST

You can't bring in Yandle without sending back payroll the other way, are you including Boyle in this deal?

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:30 am EST

Actually I wouldnt. Trick question Drew. If I could swap Moore in for Miller, add a prospct b level, done. But real question is would tjose two make us good enough? Idk.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:28 am EST

Pat Leonard &#8207;@PLeonardNYDN 4m4 minutes ago Vigneault uncertain about his defense and confirms it's not limited to Moore/Hunwick choice. Staal illness? trade related?

puckyou


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:27 am EST

The Defense will be a game time decision. It's possible both Moore and Hunwick play tonight if Marc Staal cannot go.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:22 am EST

Pat Leonard..... Nash in, Fast one practice away, no update in Lundqvist re-evaluation happening, tho I just saw the King here

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:21 am EST

Rabid - I am guilty of being nervous about giving up the youth. I am not that upset about losing DUCLAIR but I was hoping to keep MILLER. I would do it if the Rangers still get the third and we only part with one 2nd rounder. I know you go for it now but I don't think the Rangers first pick being in the 3rd round can happen again.

DREW


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:18 am EST

JT Miller, Duclair, Ryan Graves & two no. 2s for Yandle, Vermette, no. 3. All those in favor?

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:16 am EST

RR: I'll bet if Sather offered one his 2nd rounders and requested that Dallas eat 1/2 of his remaining salary, the Stars would bite.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:15 am EST

To me if MZA gets moved coming back will be something conditional, based on whether or not the team acquiring him resigns him (because there probably isn't time between now and the deadline to negotiate a deal from scratch). It could be a player and a conditional pick (3rd now that changes to 1st either this June or next if he resigns). That said, for reasons I cited yesterday I don't see Sather risking moving MZA regards of where the contract talks are at on Monday.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:15 am EST

Dallas has been trying to give away Cole since preseason. Was $4m+ if I remember, few more years. We're not bringin that in...

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:12 am EST

RF4L: Yeah, I hear you on NASH. Big relief. As for COLE he is actually with the Stars these days. With them fighting for the playoffs and SEGUIN injured I doubt they trade him. But, you never know.....

Vic


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:11 am EST

RF4L: I had forgotten about him. Hasn't Sather tried to get him in the past, or at least rumored to be looking into him? IN any case, he is one of those players you are not reading about being available, but one that I am sure could be moved and at a lower cost. And If the numbers are correct, he would fit under the cap for the rest of the season. I just don't know if 1: they will want to move him.(he isn't with the Canes anymore, he is with the Stars) and 2: what his actual cost would be. I mean, they are 7 points out, so the next 2 games they have (AVS and Ducks) may tell the story. They win both, and they could be within 3 points depending on other teams actions, or find themselves still 7 points out or more depending on other teams. one way and they feel like they can make a run for the last wildcard, the other they will sell and get what they can for next season, either way they will probably want a roster player. They are not deep at RW, so lets hope they don't send Zucc the other way for Cole++...that would not be the trade I would make with Zucc if I was going to trade him. Well unless Nichushkin, Oleksiak and maybe a pick also comeback. But thats not going to happen...well, unless Sather pulls out whatever Voodoo magic he used to ship Gomez for McD.

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 11:08 am EST

Sean Hartnett.... NYR winger Rick Nash said he began experiencing neck spasms on Monday afternoon/night. Said NYR trainers "massaged it out."

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:58 am EST

Nash at practice? Whhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:57 am EST

YOu know who I wouldn't be surprised to see in a Ranger jersey by Monday? Erik Cole of the Canes. 36 year old winger who's a pending UFA, has size and speed and has scored 18 goals this year.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:51 am EST

LOL.... Rangers practicing facoffs :)

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:48 am EST

Andrew Gross...... PPs: 1: Stepan-Boyle, Nash-Brass-MSL; 2. McDonagh-Girardi, Kreider-Hayes-Zucc

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:41 am EST

http://www.blueshirtsunited.com/video/rangers-morning-skate-stream?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tweets&utm_content=twitter_1424964614

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:36 am EST

Wish we could see that 3rd against heavy hitters a few times more before any dealing. Id also love to see Kreider take a spin instead of Hags. Kreider has had goid chemistry with both shaved shaggy & jt. Id also point out Zippay described Hayes as having cut his 'once Shaggy' hair yesterday lol. I should get a check.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:32 am EST

Pat Leonard...... Not sure what Vigneault is doing w his bottom two D pairs. Staal sounded sick to me the other day. Maybe some1 is under the weather/iffy

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:31 am EST

Andrew Gross...... With Nash back and Fast not ready lines resume usual trios. Nash with Brass and Zucc Hayes centering Hagelin and Miller.

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:26 am EST

Good news all around. Nash on ice. Fast also out there with a regular jersey for the first time

Wildcard


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:22 am EST

Pat Leonard..... Jesper Fast no longer in yellow non-contact jersey

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:20 am EST

Jim Cerny........ As NYR begin taking to the ice for morning skate, Rick Nash is out there already

Rhet0ric


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:16 am EST

Thats fine. I can wait till June ;)

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:14 am EST

moof ' in my world an apology is in order".....you're not holding your breath , are you?.......what say you Hospo diplo?.....' maybe a more nuanced deal'.....whatever that means ......does sather know either concept, apology or nuanced ?......get ur dun....

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 10:08 am EST

Daisy, forget any diplomatic immunity coming your way for a while.. Like until we win our next Cup..

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:52 am EST

Haha Hospo! U sure you werent a diplomat in a prior life?

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:49 am EST

OK, I was able to get some faceoff numbers together. I don't have the full season or as much as I want but with the trade deadline looming I wanted to get what I have put together so far out there. Plus, due to the arguments I have been making only the recent past is relevant anyway. In the Month of February the Rangers Centers (including MILLER) are: STEPAN(42%), BRASSARD(50%), HAYES(43%), MOORE(57%) and MILLER(62%). On February 7th FAST was injured in the Nashville game. So MILLER started playing on the 3rd line against Dallas on February 8th. Since then the combined numbers for the 3rd line (HAYES and MILLER) are 48%. Since then AV has talked about how he figured out that HAYES is better on backhand draws and MILLER is better on forehand draws. He has been having them take draws to their strengths depending on the side of the ice the draw is being taken. Looking back it appears that he made that determinate before the Colorado game. Since then (the last 7 games) HAYES has been 48% on draws and MILLER has been 68% on draws. The two combined are 53% on draws. So, the argument that I and others made here many months ago that the solution to the faceoff problem on the 3rd line was already here (MILLER being put on the wing on that line) has showed itself to be true so far, especially after AV figured out how to best use the two of them. Obviously this is a small sample size but the trends are there. Also, in general HAYES is getting better on draws. As his numbers have improved he is gaining confidence, which has helped to further fuel his numbers. You can see he is winning more and more draws cleanly too. Moving forward into next year I would expect his season numbers to be much better then they will be for this year. His numbers for this year are weighed down by his performance from October through January. All that really matters, though, is what is he doing now and what is he likely to do in the playoffs. The numbers show a marked improvement since February (and really since the All Star break).

Vic


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:42 am EST

But, you tend to get what you pay for

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:41 am EST

RF. Saw that AZ 4 trade article..got to figure Vermette, Yankle, Zbynek, are the most likely candidates...Korpedo? They have a 25 yr old speed deamon named Boedker, think he's a RHS, wonder if they'd part with him..Money wise a couple of the lower salariessl simplifies things

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:41 am EST

Have lost hope on VERMETZTE..but I'll take BOZAK for sure..Think we end up with a LETESTU or something similar...But, until 3PM Monday, anytng's possible and could make for some fun discussions....but only if all WALLSTERS treat with respect and humor, not self impressed ridicule...

Hospo


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:35 am EST

Of the 8 teams who are cap strapped (less than $2,000,000 in room), other than the Rangers, 3 have won the cup recently (Pittsburgh, Chicago and LA), 2 have been incompetently run for years (Toronto and Philly), and 2 I cannot really understand (Washington and Tampa) although Tampa is oozing with talent throughout the lineup.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:31 am EST

Well RF, I think you know I hate capology but ill put this out there once more. I think their position may be better than anybody thinks. I made it a point to check, just before Duclairs option, projected deadline cap space. It was 2.8, not subtracting Duke's 700k+. Thats 3.5. Then, they killed Capgeek lol. Youve got Gkass as a dump (with right partner), salary & cap absorbtion possible (with right partner). They could have millions to play with. Now I did get a rundown sayin how CapGeek wasnt factoring some residuals from Richards buyout and a few other items. But they cry poverty very well too. So idk anything isnt possible on a financial basis. These pkayers, the Vermettes & Yandle's, you are not inheriting their whole hit. Its a percentage (while your PDCS doesnt) that dlides down on games played, and we're 60 games in, so less than 1/3 hits thd books. And all thats BEFORE any add'l considerations no one ever thinks of. E.g. we play an outdoor game in Vegas next year no one ever links but makes them big money, for which they show good will now. So, Sather works in mysterious ways. Or theyll just make a straight swap for Bozak. We'll see. Got all that Messier? You wont find that on NHL.com either.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:30 am EST

Pat: Re your post on the posturing. Agreed 100% but it goes both ways. The GM trading the asset will be doing the opposite - driving up the price by talking to several teams at once. I am certain Bozak is attracting way more than Glen Sather. I suspect he'll cost something like Jitters and a 2nd.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:28 am EST

Pat: Yes, true, but the cap was run up as they won 2 cups. Sather's iced competitive teams recently but they've yet to win anything. Now he's handcuffed trying to get them over the top. Furthermore, in Chicago, the excess players have been traded for picks and prospects and that's serving to keep the team competitive as they bring thru their system the likes of Brandon Saad. I saw some of the Hawk/Bruin game Sunday and lo and behold one of TD's boys was in the Chicago lineup - Ryan Hartman. Another young and talented player. They are doing things the right way over there.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:25 am EST

I think its fair to say, all what we hear in the media is GM posturing by proxy. I am sure we asked about the price tag on Bozak and if the Leafs will take a portion of the salary etc and while its likely we do indeed like the player, I would bet they are looking at another Center and trying to drive down the cost by showing they have options elsewhere

PatrickDiv


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:23 am EST

We aren't the only ones up against the cap. No doubt Sather could have managed this better but what GM can say they are the almighty Cap-Supremo? Look at what Dreger reported yesterday about Chicago. The will be forced to move either or more than likely both of Sharp and Bickell this Summer to get some cap relief. Now theres a kid I would love to have on our team. Bickell hits like a truck! GMs are presuming there will be a cap of 71-73M I think I saw reported. However, if the players don't vote for the escalator the cap will go down to $69M and then all roster holy hell will break loose!!!

PatrickDiv


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:20 am EST

And Bob McKenzie speculating that the Rangers could be interested in Bozak - not sure if this was stated on here already. Bobby Mac is one of the more reliable insiders out there. The key here, however, is he was clear that it was him speculating, as opposed to hearing something more definitive from one of his sources.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:18 am EST

Of course nothing new here, but Maloney quoted today as looking to trade up to 4 players by the deadline in return for "prospects or 18-year-old college players rather than the short-term fix.”

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:14 am EST

RR: I will say this about Sather, who you know I'm not the biggest fan of: One of his strengths in his trading ability and he's lack of reluctance to do something of significance in that vein (unlike say someone like MacT who sits and fritters and frets and his team, not surprisingly, flounders away). I wouldn't be surprised at all if somehow he manages to accomplish a trade of that ilk (Bozak or Vermette or etc). Mudding the waters for him this time around, however, is the cap mess he's created. He'd either have to get his trading partner to take on salary, likely dead salary at that, or make 2 moves - one adding a Vermette and the other removing salary. Very tricky, not to mention roster unsettling.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 9:06 am EST

Takin your word for it RF. Some other astute types say same. BUT, I got some really critical reviews too, and just knowing how they operate, and hearing Yandle's name again out of the blue makes me wonder about a smokescreen. In other words, something involving Vermette too. If only because theyre the two best left on the board. Thing I keep getting there is how he played with Nash & Brassard, and those guys are tight & management goes to players to get a nod, and sometimes for a little help if needed, and ... enough said. So until somethings official its not. People can be wired in all they want; then Gorton or Sather changes their mind lol.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:59 am EST

If Nash or the King need to be replaced IMO don't bother - it won't be happening over the next 4 days.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:58 am EST

stevie: LB doesn't say much that we didn't already know and IMO the Ranger cannot afford Vermette and likely haven't seriously been exploring that possibility. It's guys like Winnick he's probably targeted. Cheaper bottom tier players. He's made a mess of the cap and this is the result - trolling for cheap bottom tier players who likely won't be much help. This is why I keep wondering if Vic is correct. That is, we'll see one of Brassard/Stepan moved over the summer for picks and prospects, thereby freeing up $5,000,000+ from the cap (some of which will immediately be eaten up by raises for the likes of Hags, MZA, etc). It really isn't smart GMing to put yourself in a cap bind, especially if you feel your team has cup possibilities. Most successful teams add a player or 2 at this time, meaning you must leave yourself cap leverage to do so. There's no reason to believe this team cannot be competitive again next year but with the pending raises unless Sather does something more drastic (like trading Brassard or Stepan) the situation will be even worse next year.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:57 am EST

if nash or hank have to be replaced or filled in for, sather has a different agenda. than it's not just a faceoff guy or a d man.....tbd....desperate or not desperate...... he still needs to try and improve the team if he can....

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:47 am EST

McDavid has an incredible 97 points in 37 games. I'm telling ya boys (and girl) this kid is the real deal.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:46 am EST

schneidw: Agreed - got my fingers crossed I'm worrying about nothing. Otherwise, you're right - might not matter what Sather lands by Monday; to go deep in the POs this year without Nash or with a perimeter prancing Nash is probably unrealistic.

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 8:44 am EST

RR: I think I've said it a few times now - I'd have no problem with Bozak on the Rangers. What might go the other way to get him however, I might have a problem with!

RF4L


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:51 am EST

F*ck the Trade Deadline, I want to know how Rick Nash is feeling this morning when he woke up!!!!

schneidw


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:49 am EST

TRADES: Sather appears to be looking at veterans not requiring much return and is focused on Ottawa from what I have seen and read (follow D Riseborogh)... Can you cay Legwand, Neil, and/or Philips??? All 35YO and plenty of playoff experience...

schneidw


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:32 am EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/26/how-kanes-injury-makes-trade-deadline-tougher-for-rangers/

stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:15 am EST

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stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:14 am EST

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stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 7:10 am EST

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stevielegs


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:53 am EST

Oh yeah, forgot Yandle. Wake me when its over. There is an actual game tonight, that Id enjoy seeing. Oh no, its AZ. Prep for spellbinding tweets about Maloney entering building lol. And Dreger will be along any minute to tell the world how the Leafs really dont want to trade anybody!

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:48 am EST

Hmm, looks like Sekeras was taken by the Kings. I thought we might get him for help on the blue line. Ive never been good on prospects or trades but I had read we were interested in him.

WIOSA


Thu Feb 26 2015 6:11 am EST

Can only speak for myself; the latest round of deadline b.s. is enough to make me waive it all off. Just too nuts.. Sather talking to 3 teams (Az, Buf, Sj)! JT Miller for Bozak! (pretty sure that one aint happenin), Couture! More depth D!, Hows about getting Bozak because hes signed and flipping him for Vermette?!. Yeah. That last one was enough after months of this stuff to shut down my tradeometer. If i find something great will bring it here. Otherwise Im pretty sure if/when it happens, they announce these trades!.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 3:55 am EST

"Surely Bowman has checked in with his Arizona counterpart, Don Maloney, on his two-way center, Antoine Vermette, who will happen to be in the Garden on Thursday night — likely along with as many scouts as the Chase Bridge can hold. Vermette, 32, carries a $3.75 million cap hit for this season, and then enters unrestricted free agency. It’s hard to see the Rangers winning that bidding war, as they would have to dump some salary to fit Vermette under the cap — and the last thing the fire-sale Coyotes want is salary."

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 3:48 am EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/25/after-solid-nhl-debut-rangers-ship-lindberg-back-to-hartford/

Messier11


Thu Feb 26 2015 2:00 am EST

A lot more buzz out there unrelated to Bozak. Monday cant come fast enough, get this over with.

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:58 am EST

So Bozak & one of Phillips/Hedja? Not exactly the big 94 deadline "buildup (which I hated; still feels like we shared Cup with EDM) but then we didnt need that much. They might make some minor league moves, only because guys have been languishing down there. Id just love to grab a killer for emergencies (like the MTL series). Come what may.....

Rabid Ranger


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:29 am EST

In lieu of the cap situation, I'm of the mindset that we give up an additional 2nd tier prospect in return for the Leafs eating some salary.. Even if its $500K-$700K per.... And NO, I'm not for gutting the farm... could see those early morning posts coming.... ;-)

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:24 am EST

BOZAK: could help the Face-off stats of our top two lines at ES & PP.. Bozak / Brassard / MZA with Bozak taking the draws, & gives you the RHS LW...... OR, he centers the 3rd line as you stated.... with Nash out, think we should prepare for the worst case scenario, like as if he's not coming back...

mf


Thu Feb 26 2015 12:15 am EST

Lotta rumors about Bruins (Glencross, Vermette). Also Glencross maybe to Washington. Guess we got out on him and went all in on Bozak. Fine, but once Vermette goes - save an unlikely blockbuster - therez not much left!

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:51 pm EST

Bozak has 3 goals/ 11 pts in like 600+ minutes without Kessel in his career. So,six hundred+ minutes is like 30 games at 20 mins TOI. Fugly - and why you font overpay with a 4.2 sticker. But if hes a useful part, reasonable price, fine. Hes a righty shot & FO man, need that

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:32 pm EST

RF you totally comfortable with it? You see him more than anybody here. Some say he's perfect for us. I dont think we need perfection but ill take it. MF, he's a rock! And hes nasty, and remember this, if hd finds his way into tjd mix. Bozak can shoot it, Ivd watched enough of his goals. And I like Hayes' shot, when he lets it go. But Lindberg would have the best shot in those two lines almost definitely. His wrister us a rifle, and he will score from unusual dpits on the ice with it. Same time, hard to see him getting in once we trade for a center. He could be part of it (which would suck). Imo I show Dom Moore out next year & Oscar slides right in. But idk thats what happens.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:23 pm EST

Daisy: We'd have good depth/options with Bozak (who I'd have on the LW on the PP) and now that we've had a glimpse of the LINDBERG baby, man I hope he can sustain playoff hockey on the 4th line.. This kid looks strong, like in the shoulders, and he puts up points......

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:18 pm EST

MFie! Dont you worry. I told them you wanted Bozak & theyre makin it happen Your new 3rd line is Hags-Bozak-Shaggy. You like? We'll see. Ton of options for AV, very important if its young 3rd/4th. Also, think AV is warming to JT on right side. He has been barreling down the wing and going through people, opening eyes. Fast could end up odd man out here, and thats AVs pet. Good problems to have.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:09 pm EST

RF: on the goalie front, I am refering to Toronto's farm system: they have these names: GIBSON, BIBEAU, SPARKS... perhaps we have an upgrade for them that the NYR Org is willing to part with.. This may especially be true if they have a young goalie out somewhere on their radar..

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:06 pm EST

Dont think thats permissible RF.Always a chancebi could be wrong!. Anyway, Dreger should be iut shilling for his cousin soon. Prob his morning tsb spot. One thing seems clear is once Sekera & Winnick went, Rangers got moving.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:01 pm EST

Just curious - could a trade be made where salary is eaten by one team for one year and that`s it. For example, could Sather agree to Bozak if the Leafs ate his salary for the remainder of this year but none going forward...

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:59 pm EST

mf: Not sure what the Leafs are thinking long term in net but to my knowledge they don`t have a heir apparent.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:58 pm EST

RF: Is Toronto in need of a goalie in their farm?? Perhaps we can address that for them.... OAN, Naturally, I only care about what helps the Rangers, but it wouldn't be too difficult for Montreal to move things around and go after Bozak.. I don't particularly want to see him in a Montreal jersey..

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:51 pm EST

Indeed Bozak`s offensive numbers are a tad inflated due to being with Kessel but trust me when I say he`s able to keep up. And he`s traditionally been the defensive minded guy on the line with Kessel and usually JVR. He is not a number 1 center. He is, however, a fine number 2 and a superb number 3.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:49 pm EST

I just mean putting all those folk together. Im sure theres some blame to share. Burke is a little more hardball when it comes to contracts but he's got a nose for problem players, cant stay away from the lumbering D to save his life.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:47 pm EST

I know RF. I think you bend over backwards to be fair. Too much. NYR already put it out, theyre not movin those 3. Could change but not when youre taking big & giving a good cheapbyoung nhler. I dont doubt anyone thinks Moore isnt that. Friend of mine just sent a long thing on Bokak, largely positive. But him playin with kessel and maybe having inflated #'s is a consideration. And Kessel not most popular guy in town re:work ethic, and Bozak's his roomie & best bud. Just sayin, a ton of background goes into these things, and they try to account for everything. Sather especially is notorious gor grinding the shit out of other GMs point by point. So unless youre privy to all of it you might not get yhe same calibration.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:46 pm EST

Ha. except Burke was long gone when Kessel got his 8 year $64,000,000 deal and Phaneuf his 7 year $42,000,000 deal...

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:45 pm EST

oh, of course. Burke at his finest.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:44 pm EST

if the potential returns are equal, sure they'd look to save cap room. But teams will be offering a lot more Kristo and Moore.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:43 pm EST

Mess: True, except coming into this season, the Leafs, believe it or not, were pushing the cap.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:40 pm EST

also basically no impetus to pare salary. They're trying to change the face, not pare salary. Toronto is one of the largest markets and a perennial big spender. They don't care what they're paying they just want a team that wins and competes and sick of the faces in the room.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:39 pm EST

RR: I don`t think so - I try to look at possible deals from both sides. So many proposals made here make no sense when you look at it from the other GM`s perspective. But that makes sense - this is a Ranger fan board.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:37 pm EST

Mess: Yes quite possible. Leafs aren`t under any immediate pressure to move Bozak - suspect they are seriously exploring because in the off-season they will be spending a ton of energy looking at moving Phanuef and/or Kessel.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:36 pm EST

RF, if you dont mind my saying, youre a serial undervaluet/overvaluer lol. You always think we'd have to givr up the moon. Sather wont do that, and pick up Bozaks bucks? No way. And im startin to think the NHL snuffed out capgeek.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:33 pm EST

RF- with other teams bidding, at least that. I think that and a pick

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:32 pm EST

MF, to take Bozak's full $ off their books is a big solid. Giving them a guy still legit promise, cheap, former no. 1, Id think a 4th makes it square. I dont care we hoodwink anybody. I just want the best player our brass wants. They pull the strings, they know how they want to use people. But theyve been talking to Toronto heavy since last year with DZ. so I wouldnt be surprised ifvit expands.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:30 pm EST

mf: Sather won`t be able to Gomez Bozak out of TO...he`ll cost something like Miller or Duclair and Moore.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:27 pm EST

Oh GARY "BUNG-HOLIOOOOO" .... or may I call you Napoleon? The fans want all the Salary Cap details inclusive of the formula's...... And while your at it, some advanced statistics on face-offs.. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/25/bettman-downplays-capgeek-style-site-idea-its-not-something-driving-fan-interest/

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:26 pm EST

Phillips is 36 he turns 37 in about two weeks. I am not going to apologize for the fact that he is no longer mobile. Those scouting reports are years old. He's been injured several times this season. Hamrlik II.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:24 pm EST

JFC31: I`ve posted several times about Bozak - you need to read my posts more thoroughly!! ;?) I will reiterate, however: Bozak would be a fine addition to the Rangers. He`s a strong 2 way center with FO prowess, offensive skill and a willingness to work the corners and go to high traffic areas. His cap hit is reasonable and I think there`s 2 more years after this on his deal.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:21 pm EST

NTC vs NMC just means you cant demote. Demoting only removes what, 925k max from cap? so you're still carrying a 3.25 million hit for Boyle in the minors. Not a fix.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:17 pm EST

M11: in the world I live in, an apology is in order. Moving along, I copied and pasted that from The Hockey News.... They know more than I do about Hockey... I also looked up Hamrlik, and it seems that he was 38 when with the Rangers, and I'll guess that there may have been a lot more wear & tear on him based upon his style of play.. Phillips is also listed as an inch taller and 15lbs heavier..

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:13 pm EST

Placid: you said it not me ;-) , Again, Bozak can always be traded after the season... Can Sather "Gomez" the Leafs into accepting what he wants them to take??? Like, JMoore, Connr Allen, perhaps the Leafs need another Goalie in their system that we can part with & Sather can go out & sign the guy who was a topic of discussion early in this day?? I did not bother to look at Toronto's farm system, that's for the RF family household ;-) ..... Anyone know if BOYLE has an NMC or NTC ???? There's $4.5 mill of wiggle room....

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:12 pm EST

mf- where are you getting that Phillips is still mobile? is that his scouting report?

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:10 pm EST

Rather still has a job the day the playoffs are over, no way he saddles himself with nuclear contracts that detonate under his butt come July.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:09 pm EST

NHL.com doesnt list when a guy is half as SHAKY. To be accurate. Hahaha...

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:06 pm EST

never in a million years. Wessel probably not going anywhere until the postseason. Lupul (5.25 mil) is no lock to be moved by deadline either. Bozak's 4.2 alone is tough enough a maneuver that both McKenzie and Zip saying don't hold your breath. I think their word for it.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:06 pm EST

Glad you crack yourself up MFie. Its better than Flacid lol. Youre way high on Bozak. With that contract? Moore straight up, maybe a pick. more than enough. Hear Leafs like Lindberg. Bastards!!!

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:03 pm EST

Hunwick is listed at 190 and has almost three times the points as Phillips, probably twice as fast, for those who care about accuracy

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:01 pm EST

-75% on cap hits, for the learning impaired. I cant do this tonight. Wont. Later.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:59 pm EST

Phillips: Assets: Has great hockey sense, plus good mobility, a heavy point shot and a long reach to defend attacking forwards. Is efficient when playing the man. Leads by example and is a capable shutdown defender.

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:58 pm EST

Phillips has Hamrlik II written all over it

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:58 pm EST

Placid Ranger: (I crack myself up) If Toronto would accept JMoore & Connor Allen, and perhaps 2 kids from the farm that are not on our untouchable list, maybe throw in a 2nd for next year, we should get this guy........ Right now NASH is out, this we know.... Big skates to fill, Shaggy got the assignment. We need a center.. McClement is a name bantied about, he looks more like a 4th line guy, and for that we have The Lindberg Baby.... Blowzak in Blue..... Phillips in the 6 hole......

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:55 pm EST

Id be shocked, because its downright impossible to add the 9.5 to 12 million either of those combos would require without sending basically a whole forward line to other way. Bozak is improbable enough alone.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:54 pm EST

And Hunwick has zero goals and weighs a buck fifty soaking wet. Anybody thinking we're slotting Larry Robinson @6 in ehat is so obviously a short term fill in misses the point. We're looking for a reliable player for 6 weeks.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:51 pm EST

Wouldnt be surprised at all if Lupul or even Kessel (doubtful) accompanied Bozak here. Always like Lupul, though hes made of glass. I wouldnt mind keep Kessel from NYI but thats a monster deal they dont seem inclined to.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:51 pm EST

Phillips is 36, has 3 points in 36 games.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:50 pm EST

MF; He's a monodon monoceros ;?)

stepunmytoe


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:45 pm EST

Steve Zipay &#8207;@stevezipay 5m5 minutes ago Lots of moving parts. Too complicated for 140 characters. Rangers obviously in hunt, as written on Sunday.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:45 pm EST

Riseborough scouting Sens tonight. Beat me to it MF. Sathers been after Phillips on/off for years. I always liked him too. Who knows? Could even be Weiroch. Not being smart. Ive seen it mentioned. And yes, Moore makes some sense for Bozak. Shaggys a RW I guess if it goes down.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:44 pm EST

Step: is he a narwhal? ;-)

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:43 pm EST

After hearing about KANE, me thinks Chicago would prefer a rental & is the favorite to land Vermette.... sorry Hospo, it's in the Tea Leaves........

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:42 pm EST

Scott Hannan said to be available in San Jose. Long in the tooth but seems like a defensive guy. Haven't seen much of him. Wonder if he could cover Boyles ass?

stepunmytoe


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:41 pm EST

Zip in separate tweets confirms Rangers are in on Bozak, and that Vermette would be very expensive.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:39 pm EST

I haven't watched Leopold much but the Blues were trying to move him forever, and now just a few months after CBJ acquires they too have put him on the block. Could be coincidence, but Id wager there are better options out there.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:36 pm EST

Bob: Tim Gleason is a good consideration. His cap hit is $1.2mill .... If Toronto is interested in JMoore, thats great.. Toronto needs Dmen in their pipeline..... (Please don't trade JT Miller) Perhaps they're interested in Goner Allen too... Sather get it done, get Bozak.... For those of you overly sensitive about next years cap, we can always turn around and trade Bozak, or, G-d willing, Dan Boyle announces his retirement, which would make all today's nail-biters relax about losing "Ga-ZOOK" .... Here are a couple of other Dmen, please offer some feedback on their abilities & fit for this team: Ottawa's CHRIS PHILLIPS $2.5mill cap hit this yr and next .....(http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?1721) I think he'd make a great pairing for Boyle, Phillips is no kid....... Does CBJ's JORDAN LEOPOLD have anything left in the tank? Signed for $1.75mill & an UFA after this season so he may be an inexpensive rental

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:28 pm EST

stevie that may have been the actual reason why Hayes shifted to wing last game as opposed to another player. I still don't think Vermette is in the cards, and Bozak will be a tough get like McKenzie said, but maybe another C.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:25 pm EST

JFC: Ironically the Laffs just got rid of their best +/- player in Winnik with a +15. That's one stat of in consequence regarding that mess.

stepunmytoe


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:24 pm EST

welcome to fantasy wall...boss the sather ....do you want bozak if mza goes the other way?.....be careful what you wish for.....the concept is other teams are improving or trying to improve for the playoffs, so are the nyr....sather could be playing with mza and his agent's head, and might not be playing...remember Callahan......all the gms are playing mind games....my guess is sather's real target is vermin vermette strictly as a rental, for now. and trading dinty moore for another d man....that is a rental or won't cost more than moore will......let the guessing continue, until he makes a deal....my bet is he makes 1-2 deals......and mza stays.....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:17 pm EST

not secret reports. all from TSN and Spectors

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:16 pm EST

they're willing to re-sign him, but Ive read several reports that they're fielding offers too.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:15 pm EST

I hear that Philly is trying to sign MDZ. They are happy with him. Turns out that the rotting carcasses of the tanking teams have been pretty well picked over now. Might be a stand pat deadline for the Rangers this time.

Bob


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:12 pm EST

One disconcerting Bozak stat ismhis terrible +/-. If the Rangers are interested, I'm guessing they think it's more a product of a bad team than of defensive liability or lack of smarts

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:08 pm EST

I think they'll be looking for someone with more wheels than Gleason, maybe another nobody like hunwick or like pouliot last season. Maybe a prospect-project like Moore was when we took him. Ironically, MDZ is available, has the wheels, plenty of hits, is LHS and under a contract much more palatable. But everyone's head would explode if that happened.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:03 pm EST

Moore is one of the few assets that the Rangers will be willing to trade. Miller is probably the other. After seeing Gabba Gabba Hayes on the wing last night, the thought of bringing in another center and pushing him over is even more enticing. Ideally, we keep Miller too but you have to give to get. As far as another d-man, what about Tim Gleason?

Bob


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:46 pm EST

If they like Moore that is a help, but hopefully we can also get a new #6 somewhere else if not from Toronto. I previously mentioned Jake Gardiner as a possibility, and he spent some time with Step at U Wis, but he makes 4 mil which we cannot afford for #6 but also is just too much for what he's shown. Even Morgan Reilly costs > twice Moore.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:44 pm EST

Bozak's a guy I wanted too. The smart thing is that we shouldn't have too much competition since most clubs aren't interested in taking back money. He is definitely AV's kind of player. Also, if the Leaf's are interested in J.Moore, that means we must have another deal lined up for another D. I'm thinking maybe one of our # 2's plus for one. Just spitballing.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:38 pm EST

Bozak is a guy I would be much more interested in than the other dreck being talked about. That is a much bigger deal that will cost the Rangers something like John Moore and the Duke though. I really would prefer that Miller not be traded. I think he adds some grit that is otherwise absent. Would the Make Believes take Glass too so we can get out from under his $$?

Bob


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:32 pm EST

Tyler Bozak could be a coup for Sather if he can pull.off a good deal. My Newfie friend absolutely loves the guy and I trust his judgement when it comes to analyzing players. However, I agree with Mess that he is going to cost a lot more,than AHL players....it's going to take at least one top prospect...I'm thinking Miller. RF4L, what's your take on this guy....you've been forced to watch him a lot :^)

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:31 pm EST

NHL Rumors...... Would need more to get done but TOR has interest in John Moore

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:29 pm EST

McKenzie: Blackhawks are “much more interested in Glencross than they would be Jagr.”

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:27 pm EST

Mess -- but that's the point....to the team that made the deal, their analysis of the potential utility of Winnick to their Cup aspirations determined that he was worth it. To the Rangers, he was not.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:26 pm EST

Leafs took back Jokinen, they'll take anybody LOL. Impossible to know what they're looking at up there in Toronto, and what theyre willing to do. They're taking a wrecking ball to the franchise. Trying to move Kessel, maybe Phanuef. Bozak is small potatoes. will see.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:24 pm EST

Vic -- yes, in the best of all worlds, a GM should build his team in "the summer" so to speak. However, there are other factors that go into whether A GM decides to pull the trigger on deal at the deadline. What kind of pressure is he getting from his owner, for instance? And a big part of a GMs job is supposed to be to give his team the best chance of winning the Cup....now, I,think we discussed,this before, a team like LA that has won Twice in the last few years has a lot more leeway to err on the side of caution and not "overpay" at the deadline whereas a team like the Sharks would feel the "obligation" to try and make a move to increase their chances. Again, I donating the GMs think,in terms of the probability scenarios you talk about....they go with their gut and they pull the trigger...or not.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:23 pm EST

Toronto doesn't need to dump salary, They are rebuilding a team. They arent on any kind of salary restriction, and plenty of teams will bid on Bozak. He will cost more than AHL fodder

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:23 pm EST

Rabid.... You are only thinking in terms of this years cap. Next season they would have the full $4.2 mil cap hit on the books. It means even if we could swing the deal without giving up anyone off the roster, we can't re-sign everyone next season. IMO, you clear out the payroll now. Maybe we can get the Leafs to eat some payroll or maybe get them to take back Glass, but I'm doubtful. Another reason we don't use up all the cap space is that we're not done., but that's just my own supposition.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:22 pm EST

JFC- I don't see Winnik offering us anything we don't already have. Not worth a 2nd

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:20 pm EST

Vic, Im not arguing the 'as is' part, provided Lindberg is in there. I thought we wouldve been great with him all year and avoided the need for a center. The whole Hayes thing clouded that. Obviously if Bozak is here, I doubt Lindberg would be. Either way, as I was saying, there's no telling what these kids, if they fill up the 3rd/4th lines +Dom Moore), what'll happen. They're all talented, can skate, good size, defensively conscious. I still think they need another big nasty body so bad; but with how the market is sorting out here, Im not expecting Vermette. Sekera is gone. Those were the two most talented positionally. Just keep in mind, it could be disasterous; JT Miller decides to give the puck away at the blue line in ECF, people will lose it LOL. But there one thing NOBODY takes into account while we're all playing GM; what it'd mean to the TEAM to keep it all together. what itd say, to the kids and vets alike. Hard to know the answer.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:14 pm EST

JFC: That is why you don't try to build your team at the deadline. You build it in the summer. If it needs any fine tuning that should be done by the start of January. A small tweak is fine and the teams that have major injuries need to consider if a bigger deal makes sense. Otherwise as the saying goes....a fool and his money are soon parted. Also, I'll say it again because it needs to be said. This team (including guys like LINDBERG) might be exactly the right roster to win a Cup this year AS IS. And it is possible that any "upgrades" only cause the team to fail to win the Cup. That scenario is every bit as possible as any scenario that can be painted where a player(s) brought in gives the team the exact roster that was needed to win a Cup. It is human nature for people to assume a move makes the team "better" or is what you need to do to try to win. That can be the case but it also equally may not be the case. Just as it could be the case that a move (different from the one you want) could have been the right move.

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:12 pm EST

Prob $1.5. not in mood for math. depends how many games left....

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:10 pm EST

No, its not so expensive in terms of talent. Picks, 2nd tier prospects, maybe a Connor Allen type, a Kristo-type (kind of a poor man's Kessel for them since he's going too). Toronto needs to dump that deal; No CapGeek and top of my head, its like 4.3 remaining for 3 years. Big nut. He's not a $4m player like at least I think of Zuc as; he's a every basic offensive player. Works hard & he'll help; not sure how much. Again, it'd be 1/3 of remaining cap hit. $1.1 m? something like that. no biggie.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:09 pm EST

Mess -- if you understood the concept of utility and how it relates to Game Thoery, you'de the realize your statement about Winnick is is inaccurate.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:07 pm EST

Hags or Zuc would have to go for the cap space, IMHO.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:04 pm EST

Hard to imagine Bozak happening without one or more of Miller/Fast/Hayes/Duke/Hags going the other way

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:59 pm EST

MFie will be pleased...

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:58 pm EST

NY Rangers have interest in Tyler Bozak, per @TSNBobMcKenzie . He said it won't be an easy deal to work out.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:50 pm EST

Stevielegs...........read your great post today at work ,on the Shut-outs, just getting around to a reply. I remember those days well back in the early 70's. Giacomin and Villemure were the best tandom in the league bar none. They were actually 1A and 1B , which makes Talbots accomplishment even better as a true Back-up. And he is not quite done yet I presume.

Newfie_Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:48 pm EST

Winnik is no ones gallon of water in a desert. Pens struck gold in Perron, but this one is a stinker.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:43 pm EST

Ill go with that JFC. This just in, conditional pick also in deal; if Pens win Cup they owe Carolina roost of chickens.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:38 pm EST

What a player is worth to a GM is based on perceived utility....how useful is that player going to be towards winning the Stanley Cup, in this case for teams that are contenders. If I offered someone a gallon of water for $100, they would laugh in my face and say the gallon of water wasn't worth it. But, if that person was walking through a desert for 5 hours, they'd be more tha happy pay $100 for that same gallon of water....in that case, $100 would be an acceptable price. I think that's how a lot of GMs approach trades at the deadline when they have a team that they think is a legitimate Cup contender. Offer Winnick in August and you won't get much....offer him at the trade deadline to a team that feels he's a missing piece and you get what he fetched today...it looks like overpaying but it depends on how you gauge the utility/ usefulness of the player towards winning The Cup

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:26 pm EST

Attn: Hospo....... Per NHL Rumors...... Bozak, a NYR target in addition to Letestu, Jagr and Vermette

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:18 pm EST

From Boomer: Bettman downplays Capgeek-style site idea: ‘It’s not something driving fan interest’ http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/25/bettman-downplays-capgeek-style-site-idea-its-not-something-driving-fan-interest/ … via @ProHockeyTalk WRONG!

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:01 pm EST

LA getting their house in order. Extended Nolan 3years yesterday, extended Clifford 5 years today.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:00 pm EST

HUGE premium on physicality come playoff time. That's the difference between any 'pricing' on Stempniak and Winnick.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:57 pm EST

Hospo- ouch. That one will stick around, probably be mentioned by announcers every time he dresses, certainly every time he gets bumped.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:56 pm EST

Winnik probably better than Stepniak, but no one in their right mind would've sent even just a 2nd for Stempniak and few (one) willing to pay a 2nd + for Winnik. Good non-move by Sather

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:52 pm EST

they should be ashamed it took this long to fine a goalie.....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:51 pm EST

RHET - LTIR,,The only silver lining is They have 6 mill to play with....But hard envisioning him making it back with that time line

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:50 pm EST

"Sabres' Michal Neuvirth becomes 1st goalie fined for diving /embellishment by NHL" ..What about the BJs goalie the other night (or was it last night)? It couldn;t have been worse then that..

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:48 pm EST

KANE is now officially out for 12 weeks after collarbone surgery.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:40 pm EST

STEVIE - That is defientely a wild card..Would love to see NASH play by SAT to ease my mind...Then again, I might be spot on with my 35 goal prediction! :)

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:37 pm EST

maybe sather knows something about nash and hank nyr fans don't.......anything is possible.......don't assume that means bad news.......

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:36 pm EST

See what I mean there Rhet? Cracks & crevices. Sather lives in there. No problem RF! Just tryin to avoid the bait of another language parsing semanticsfest.I mean, the guy just got traded for that. Thats the price! Neednt be more complicated. But weve got managers, every deal is in a 10-yr window. So LA & Pitt, theyve already lost! Lol.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:32 pm EST

RHET - Wow, surprised about MICHALEK...maybe he can convalesce with NASH? :)

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:31 pm EST

"HELP THEM"

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:30 pm EST

RF4L - Just like almost any UFA salary is an overpayment, almost any rental at the deadline is an overpayment..And the entire League knows it..But It doesn't really matter, for the teams doing the renting, it's how the player can them now...The CAR-LA deal was a good deal for both teams..I think the WINNIK deal was also...b

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:30 pm EST

David Pagnotta...... Zbynek Michalek, despite injury, still drawing plenty of interest & will likely moved. Assets for him will certainly b conditional on health

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:26 pm EST

RHET - From CAR, You can also throww in HAINSEY and the guy that has Ranger written all over him, Jon-Michael LILES..:)..Would like Riley NASH

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:25 pm EST

RF4L - True, about WINNIK and the Rangers but WINNIK and his game and his PK ability might have higher value to the Pens....As a Pen fan, I would have no problem with the price..,,,I would rather have Sather iidentify that player that he thinks the team needs and just get him ...and WIN the CUp..:)

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:25 pm EST

David PagnotTA..... Hurricanes have more to do, with McClement (heard lots of traction there), Dwyer, Gleason on the block.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:23 pm EST

rabid:That only goes so far and is a overly simplistic view. By that, Glass is worth Crosby and 10 first rounders if the PENs would pay it....but no one would say that wasn't too much.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:23 pm EST

RF4L... Dreger said he wouldn't be surprised to see Sekere re-sign with LA.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:23 pm EST

IMO, Winnick would be a more effective bottom 6er than Stempnicrap. Oh well, on to the next list of rehashed players!

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:22 pm EST

RR: Thanks for the economics 101 lecture dude!!! ;?)

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:21 pm EST

IMO LA overpaid unless they have already talked about a new deal with that dude. They could accommodate his demands (Marc Staal or better numbers) because Regher will be an UFA in July.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:21 pm EST

The market - for anything - is set by what someone is willing to pay for it. The fucking hope diamond, if it fetches a billion from one person bidding, is a billion dollar diamond. On that basis, Winnick was, today, worth a 2 & 4. Sekera was worth a no. 1 +. Just cause people pull what they think prices should be doesnt set the price. The market sets the price.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:15 pm EST

Hawks have to. Richards doesnt get you there lol. But Chiarelli is the guy to watch.heavy rumors Cam Neely takes over this summer. So theres a gm with nothing to lose, but maybe as good a chance to win as anybody with the right trades.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:15 pm EST

Dreger saying a bunch of teams, Rangers included, refused to agree to a 2nd rounder and that`s why Winnick is a Penguin. I don`t see WInnick being the difference for the Rangers so IMO it`s a good thing he`s not a Ranger tonight.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:12 pm EST

Winnik was overpaid for.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:10 pm EST

Hospo I wish the NYR are as clueless as LA......

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:09 pm EST

Would bet the Hawks get him. Long term IR and no cap concern for the playoffs....they will overpay if they have too.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:08 pm EST

Boston & BlackHawks all over Vermette. We might get shutout here, but still lots of players available.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:08 pm EST

Rabid: Two other teams let them know last night they were out. They didn't keep bidding because they didn't want to pay that much. And it Winnik...he isn't that good. A single pick should have done it...

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:05 pm EST

Hospo.... They were probably adamant about the pick. That's the way the deadline usually rolls.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:05 pm EST

Winnick was overpayed for? Two NHL GMs just agreed it was a fair price. Two other teams, one being us, were at least in the conversation till the end. I realize players at playoff time arent valued nearly as high as prospects & picks at P& PFC, but somebody is way off.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:03 pm EST

Hockey Rumors and Trades...... The Arizona Coyotes have recalled 2012 1st rounder Henrik Samuelsson as rumors swirl they are close to trading Antoine Vermette..

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:03 pm EST

STEVIE _ LA has no clue to what they are doing....

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:02 pm EST

RHET - I didn't want SEKERA but if a GM did, he could have subbed in somebody like MILLER for the number 1 maybe...WILD - Your opinion, not mine...

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:02 pm EST

slow you blow.....haste makes waste.....cliché away.....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:01 pm EST

oh, lordy!

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:00 pm EST

la must be mortgaging their future, for the present......good idea......I assume their coach made that request......

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:57 pm EST

the bad/desperate GMs are biting early

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:57 pm EST

So far, this boring deadline has been amazingly accurate in terms of the "same old names" and from the Rangers end, what Sather is interested in adding....nothing big, just tinkering. That makes it possible that they end up doing NOTHING or next to nothing by Monday. Everyone's been reporting that Sather and AV are basically happening the team they have and just want to,tinker with D and possibly a bottom 6 forward....and that looks like what Sather was aiming at so far.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:56 pm EST

Id like to think that even WITH a first we wouldn't be in on Sekera

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:56 pm EST

and for me, anytime you give up a first, the player should have at least a year left on their deal.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:53 pm EST

Hospo.... On Sekera: without a first rounder, we were never really in it.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:52 pm EST

Winnik was overpaid for...and Sekera landed a first (this year if the Kings make the playoffs...so its this years) and that means the Rangers were priced out.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:52 pm EST

EJ Hradek....... With Sekera off the market, @EdmontonOilers (Petry) and @ArizonaCoyotes (Michalek) r on the clock. @NHLFlyers also looking to move a D-man

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:51 pm EST

So, am I to understand that The Rangers were in on BOTH WINNIK and SEKERA but lost out?..Must mean SATHER knows that the Rangers need help in both areas but wants to get it for a discount bargain basement price and not willing to pay what it takes to to win....

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:48 pm EST

Renaud Lavoie..... Rangers were looking at getting Andrej Sekera. Now who will they get

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:46 pm EST

DREW - I saw that piece, I can't stand Button, but he wasn't playing the insider and predicting trades but rather pointing out 5 matches that made sense....

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:44 pm EST

I also want to say that I am not enamoured with either option, I am not an insider but I was just playing GM. Here is what Button predicted last week: Craig Button's NHL Tonight list of 5 potential trades that may happen by the deadline: Zbenyk Mikhalik to Tampa Bay... Daniel Winnik to the Rangers... Jeff Petry to Los Angeles... Andrej Sekera to Anaheim... Antoine Vermette to Chicago (courtesy of evets1980)

DREW


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:38 pm EST

Rabid, I was thinking that Petry or Wiercioch were possibilities for the Rangers. You had mentioned that a depth D could be on the way. Was it John Moore that is likely to be moved in a deal, as well?

DREW


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:37 pm EST

not to be confused with Taylor Swift......

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:36 pm EST

Elliotte Friedman..... If LA makes playoffs this year, first rounder is this year. If LA misses, first rounder is next year

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:35 pm EST

Wild, good ;) Hall is hurt but hed be back for POs. They like Petry, supposedly. Oil has to be fed up with Hall. Idk theyre ready to get out from under. Or all the rules regarding trading an injured player with whats termed 4-6....

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:35 pm EST

STEVIE - Good stuff....Kings winners of 8 in a row but still Know they have to improve the team to make it through the PO wars and are willing to pay for it,..Good job by their GM....

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:32 pm EST

Stevie: They kind of have a defensemen who is unavailable.....

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:31 pm EST

Rabid..... Are you saying their trying to get Hall?

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:30 pm EST

Rabid: They haven't made deals to address the defensive side of things in years. Every year they trade for a forward it seems.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:29 pm EST

so why does last year's cup winner make that trade?....to try and be this year's winner .....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:28 pm EST

Would Taylor Hall qualify as an improvement?

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:25 pm EST

sather is suppose to do his job, and improve the team if he can. otherwise he's not really doing his job. And to judge what he does as hurting the organization long term, is more complicated then figuring out where the cap is. But anything he does or doesn't do will be judged. And then 5 years usually have to pass to jump to more conclusions. I want him to do whatever he decides to do as long as it's going for The Cup this year. Hank and Nash are hopefully ok, but they aren't here forever.......and yes if I'm Nash or Hank et al I expect my teammates to watch my back. ....that's part of what makes it a TEAM.....and it's hockey......I'll leave it at that....then again....., Nash's stiff neck came from sleeping wrong? anyone want to buy a bridge? ...watch the video and it probably is the result of the abuse. Hence a maintenance day and then a missed game ...I wonder if they sent it to the nhl,......

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:24 pm EST

Rene Borque sucks. The Ducks took him because it allowed them to rid themselves of a pylon D-man that Montreal ended up waiving. if you want a Borque on the team, call one up from Hartford.

Bob


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:22 pm EST

@TSNBobMcKenzie: LA prospect going to CAR in Sekera deal is Roland McKeown (KGN).

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:21 pm EST

I fidnt say anything about Glass. Rhet, not as far-fetched....

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:19 pm EST

RR: Glass is un tradeable IMO. He's garbage. How could you possibly have the stats he has ? You would think a puck would of at least went in off his head or ass by now.

stepunmytoe


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:19 pm EST

Wild how do you know what Pens do/dont see on their own team? They have to solve all their problems in 1-2 deals? They cant make any more? Id be happy if they stopped but dont expect it.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:18 pm EST

Rhet: Depending on cost I wouldn't mind him coming from the AVS, he is their number 2 guy out here, and while they are not a very good team he plays over 20 minutes per night, here he would be on the 3rd pair at 13-15 per night. Men can look a whole lot better playing on the 3rd pair rather than the 1st pair.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:16 pm EST

Rhet: Its the deadline, they would give Sather a 2nd rounder for him LOL

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:16 pm EST

At this rate, Jan Hedja will be a Ranger by Monday

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:14 pm EST

I think we should trade Tanner Glass while we still can. Someone will give us something stupid for him.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:13 pm EST

Rabid: Problem is, the PENs still don't see that they have issues in the Dzone and in net at times. They keep adding wingers...would imagine the problems continue again this year. They think they can outscore every team in the playoffs.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:11 pm EST

The folks at TSN must be starting to freak out a little bit. "How are we going to fill a 6 hour trade show on Monday if there is nobody left to trade??!!"

RinkRat


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:11 pm EST

JFC: And here`s the thing - it doesn't look like he was concussed. The 2 punches didn`t seem that vicious (which isn`t forgiving them or forgiving the Rangers lack of response) but both were to his head and it`s common knowledge now that if you've have a few concussions you`re more susceptible to a recurrence. Couple that with the fact that a few days later he`s not with the team due to neck spasms and is feeling ill. I cannot see how anyone wouldn`t see the possibilities here. Hopefully he`s at practice tomorrow and my concerns can be laughed at then (which is fine with me - rather that than he is concussed because if so, that`s it for him this year I suspect - when he returns we`ll likely see the Nash we saw most of last year).

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:10 pm EST

Rangers balked because theyll go 2-4 & more for Glencross, who is a better player.but a big strong guy like Winnick, who can play a little, PK, walks right onto your team is absolutely worth a 2 this time of year. Christ. Im secretly hoping Sather trades our whole slate this year just to freak people out. Pens added Perron, now Winnick and are significantly better - and we may have to go thru them. Maybe when Winnick is keyed on Nash's skull we can hit him with our 7th round pick.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:10 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun...... Kings still finalizing deal for Sekera, draft pick and prospect going the other way

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:08 pm EST

Sekera to LA

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:08 pm EST

the Mayor John Hoven..... BREAKING NEWS: LA Kings are finalizing a deal for dman Andrej Sekera from Carolina Hurricanes. Looks like 1sr rd + prospect (not Forbort)

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:07 pm EST

Aaron Ward.... Carolina Hurricanes trade Andrej Sekera to the LA Kings. #TSN 0 replies 160 retweets 37 favorites Reply

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:06 pm EST

Interesting stuff.... http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/thn-mock-deadline-trades-jagr-lupul-and-vermette/

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:04 pm EST

VIC - Every move is connected...Nothing is in a vacuum....Yes, it shows that you don't think the team is good enough as is to Win it all but it also might show that you will make the right move that you think gives your team the shot to WIN..All you can do as a GM....The short sighted GM miight be the one that rests with hi thumb up his ass and/or dreaming about a future that never materializes and thinks his team is ready for the war onkly to find out later it isn;t.....And, I get it, I'm dismissing the picks but you're not dismissing the aquistion of Winnink, one of the better/stronger, 3rd/4th line and PK forwards in the game?.OK... If I'm a GM and make a deal for WINNIK thinking he's the main missing piece for the team and it still loses, why would i regret it? I did my best....about 13-14 teams, either by action or inaction, won't get the job done..No big whoop, get ready for next year!

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:02 pm EST

Maybe Sather`s plans changed yesterday when Rick Nash showed up with `neck spasms`... ;?)

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:02 pm EST

Not really sure what the big deal,is about saying "I hope it's not a concussion," or "it looked to me like he got concussed" or whatever. If that's what someone's worried about or what they think they observed, then that's their opinion. No,harm throwing it out there for public consumption.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:01 pm EST

Wild: I`m here to tell you I never saw Neil do anything like he`s famous for against the Leafs when Tie Domi was in Toronto. Nor Colton Orr for that matter. He wasn`t a pansy, but the didn`t do anything like we saw against the Rangers in that PO series (against BB). Neither hesitated to let him know they were around and ready whenever Neil tried to get physical.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:00 pm EST

Glad to hear that the Rangers were kicking the tires on WINNIK but even more glad they had the good sense to walk away when the price got absurd. Hopefully SATHER continues to show that kind of restraint.....

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:59 pm EST

Maybe Sather`s got his sights on another target and it`s getting closer. They are limited by cap space in terms of what they can do so he needs to be smart about this.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:59 pm EST

RF4L: Teams have TRIED to stop Neil that way, but to no avail. He doesn't fight, and plays it cools until he is out against the top guys, than he lets the nasty out, and guess what, the guys who would respond are stapled to the bench and are unable to respond...let alone stop it.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:58 pm EST

Anyways, I sure hope Nash isn`t concussed. I don`t like the abuse he took given his concussion history, the 2 punches to his head and the fact that a few days later he`s not with the team due to `neck spasms`. I won`t be convinced it`s just that unless he`s back practicing with the club tomorrow.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:56 pm EST

Darren Dreger..... Next to Pitt, Wpg and NYR were most interested in Winnik. Both told Toronto they were out last night. Mtl also had some interest.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:55 pm EST

According to Dreger the Rangers were in on Winnik, but told TOR last night they were out. Wonder what they were offering.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:53 pm EST

RHET - With this team (IF the King is healthy), damn straight!..It.has a great chance to win the CUP with some additions...I couldn't care less about contending (contending means nothing, winning is everything) the next few years (but I know we will no matter what prospects or youngsters are given up this year) compared to winning the ultimate prize when you have a really good shot..Who know, next year half the team could be injured, none of the kids come through..Do it NOW!

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:53 pm EST

Rhet: I`m not sure what happened to Torts because without a doubt in the beginning he was all about having his players back each other up. Don`t you remember those games against the Devils....he`d dress Prust and Rupp and for a while used Stu Bickell. The year of those 3 they handled Boston`s intimidation crap with ease. It wasn`t until the Senators in that opening PO round started running the Rangers that he suddenly started reigning them in. I recall Matt Carkner beating up BB and no one responding. I recall Chris Neil concussing BB and no one responding. It was despicable and almost resulted in the Rangers getting bounced. It was the start of the end of the Tortorella era IMO.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:52 pm EST

Rhet: Its the NHL today. Taking retaliatory penalties is as dumb as playing with one of us wall crawlers in net. Even Roy here in Colorado talks about not liking the fights. He says he sees them as a waste of time and a disruption to the game plan. He learned that last season, according to him, as a player he never thought that, as a junior coach he didn't notice it, but last season in the NHL he saw the negative impact of going after guys on the other team and not playing your game. Its not just Torts and AV, its the mentality that is taking over the NHL. Probably the correct one, the silly responding crap doesn't change how players treat others on the ice....it just lets them know you would rather respond to them that win the game.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:51 pm EST

WILD.... I never said they said it was something that it wasn't, just that they weren't forthcoming,You can tell a partial truth and not be honest. It causes fans not to trust them.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:49 pm EST

RF4L: Again..your little fantasy world doesn't exist. Watch the games with the toughest meanest most responsive teams..they get treated identically or worse than the teams that do it less. Also, go ask the AVS from a year or two ago, when their injuries from dirty hits piled up, and they used to respond to every hit that was big or tiny dirty play...this year they are not responding and WOW less injuries from dirty plays. I see MORE evidence that responding makes the other team respond, and it escalates until the refs put an end to it or there is an injury. But go ahead, live in you fantasy world where the toughest dirtiest players of the NHL are afraid.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:48 pm EST

RF4L.... I was thinking about this latey. Torts uses to be blamed for the Rangers not sticking up for each other and now it's AV. Is it that both coaches prefer not taking retaliation penalties or just that our players are a bunch of weenies.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:46 pm EST

Rhet: Yes, but when did they say it was something that it wasn't? They never did...they either said nothing specific, or they said what it was. Giving out false info is NOT the same as saying Lower body or upper body.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:44 pm EST

WILD.... Are you blocking out all of the Tortorella years? Everything was classified as either an upper body or lower body issue.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:42 pm EST

And I told you, there`s no sense us arguing your enjoyment of the turn the other cheek philosophy. I hate it and believe it encourages other teams and players to be more physical and abusive.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:42 pm EST

Rhet: When have the NOT ben truthful with injuries? Every time they give info as in "not a concussion" or give a diagnosis they have been truthful....sure they do the "undisclosed" type stuff, but thats a FAR FAR cry from saying its one thing and it being another

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:40 pm EST

Wild: With Staal the concussion stuff didn`t come out until well into the season. He was concussed on the hit originally. I was vacationing in the Bahamas and met his soon to be in-laws there (on the same plane and at the same resort). His father-in-law to be told me Marc was concussed but the Rangers were going with the sore knee for some reason. Then when he came to camp that fall all we kept hearing was he had a neck issue. Only when the symptoms refused to dissipate at camp did then finally send him home for a stretch (might have been a month) with the mandate to do nothing, not even watch TV (which I believe is standard protocol when the symptoms are persistent). So you`re wrong on 2 counts with Staal.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:40 pm EST

RF4L: You live in a fantasy land that it will stop what has already happened and stop future transgressions against the team. Tell me one single team that has ever stopped players from going after their top guys. I can tell you right now 100% that the team has never existed. Players that target stars are not afraid...they are not intimidated. They WANT a response, they hope for a response, that is why they target the stars. when you respond you ENCOURAGE MORE of the same crap.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:38 pm EST

WILD... When you go years and aren't forthcoming, why should anyone believe you when you are?

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:35 pm EST

Rhet: Staal was a BIG "its a concussion" guy, they were 100% honest with that, Hank they said it wasn't a concussion, they were honest with that. I don't think there has been a case where they were dishonest....they get vague as the playoffs arrive, and every team does that.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:34 pm EST

RF4L: I watched it live and saw that look in NASH's eyes when he picked his head up. That got me real nervous. And I was afraid of the concussion symptoms coming on days later. That has been talked about more and more with guys who have had concussion issues in the past. it may be just a sore neck from the whiplash but I was damn concerned when I saw it go down. WILDCARD: The reason why is that concussion issues have hit the Rangers hard over the last several years from NASH to STAAL to SAUER, etc. We've seen it before and it can damage a player for a long, long time. That specter hangs over this team's collective heads......(no pun intended).

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:33 pm EST

Oh for crying out loud Wild, I`m not going down that tired road with you again. You like a look the other way team and I don`t. We can agree to disagree.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:32 pm EST

RF4L is the boy who cried concussion. A concussion conspiracy theorist if you will :) Although, if the Rangers were more forthcoming with their injury information maybe the fans would trust them more.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:32 pm EST

RF4L: SO AFTER he hits him someone jumps in that would help stop Nash from being hit?

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:31 pm EST

Watch that video - Bogosian got him twice in the head. WTF is with the Rangers and their pansified attitude. This guy is their MVP to date and has had 3 major concussions recently, to the point where he was basically a shell of himself for nearly an entire season (last year). Geeesh....

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:29 pm EST

How is it that EVERY injury turns into a concussion on this wall? Steal, Hank, now Nash...there have been others....every injury the Rangers a giving out false info and its a concussion.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:28 pm EST

HOSPO: None of those things are really connected. Spending a 2nd and a 4th doesn't show you care about winning. It shows you are desperate because you don't think your team can win as is. It also shows that the GM is short-sighted. As for the picks, you are right. They could turn out to be useless. OR they could turn out to be two Hall of Fame players. Players that could really have helped the Pens actually win another Cup. That is what you are dismissing. We don't know what those two picks will amount to yet but we do know what WINNIK is, and more importantly isn't. WINNIK isn't a difference maker. And when the Pens are bounced out of the playoffs in the first two rounds the Pens will regret this deal.

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:28 pm EST

Oh man, I just watched the Bogosian crap. He punched Nash in the side of the head. It looks like a glancing blow, butt he connected. That no Ranger stepped in when the team`s MVP to date is being abused is despicable and a glaring issue on this club IMO. If Nash is concussed, this is why. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDzVLI-V6n8

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:26 pm EST

Hospo.... Playing Devil's Advocate... The Pens have traded most of their picks in the last few years with nothing to show for it. Would you feel better if we followed suit? I'm less and less sure that they right guy(s) is available at this deadline.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:25 pm EST

So, with KANE put on LTIR the HAWKS have a brand new 6 MIll to play with..Just give them Vermette already....(Or you can trade them MZA for SHAW and ???.:)).Could work out just great if KANE comes back for the POs where there is no CAP HIT......Also, seems like COYOTES D-man MICHALEK who was in high demand may be untradeable because of concussion...Thins out the D ranks..

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:24 pm EST

BTW if Nash is missing tomorrow or cannot play the next game I think it`s time to worry that he`s concussed.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:23 pm EST

Some of the same old names are now actually traded. Might make for a very quiet trade line day!

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:19 pm EST

VIC - WINNIK is the type of 3rd/4th line player you need to WIN the cup with...the 2nd and 4th may never be jack shit.....So you overpayed by a round, who cares? I wouldn't....Showed your team and fans you want to win while you have the chance......From the Rangers standpoint, a bad deal, it makes the Pens are betterr team to play against. in the POs...and, because of price, makes the likelihood of a needed player like VERMETTE and a better shot at the CUP even less...

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:18 pm EST

Don't know much about SILL but he looks like AHL fodder to me. Probably included in the deal so that the Pens could make room in their 50 for WINNIK.

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:12 pm EST

Lindros has really let himself go

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:11 pm EST

sorry Zach Sill

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:08 pm EST

WILD.... You're forgetting about bonuses, performance bonuses and when they kick in, etc. Which ones count on the cap vs. which ones don't. Every player that plays a game has to be left on the cap for the entire season(even if traded). Multiply that by 30 teams. Also, if it was so easy, all of the sites would have the same figures. Just saying,

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:03 pm EST

Plus Jeff Sill. A third and a sixth for Tlusty

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 3:58 pm EST

Rhet: Its not that hard....I mean, I don't know the NHL year exactly off hand, but you have those dates and divide the total cap hit by that many number of days, then you subtract the off days, like all-star break, Olympic break, holiday breaks and the like. Capgeek did that, NHLnumbers does it as well, since the cap hits for the guys like Malone are lower that the annual hit.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 3:58 pm EST

A 2nd and 4th for WINNIK??!?!?! For a career 4th line guy who is a UFA in two months? That is insane. If that is the going rate I sure hope SATHER shuts his cell phone off until Tuesday and rips the phone plug out of the wall at the house. WINNIK is barely worth a 4th as a rental and even then I would have buyer's remorse two seconds after I pulled the trigger.....

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 3:56 pm EST

James Mirtle..... Dave Nonis is speaking with the media on this at 4:15. Leafs retained half of Winnik's salary to allow Pens to acquire him. Not a big deal.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 3:53 pm EST

VIC.... The NHL would prefer us not knowing what players salaries are (they even said so recently). I would not be surprised to find out at a later date that they paid Cap Geek to go away. It just seems weird that this was the most quoted/used site in terms of Hockey salary info and the owner isn't interested in selling.... Anyway, none of these sites are 100%(not even Cap Geek), the cap is figured out on a daily basis and all sites show it on an annual cap hit basis. Which in fairness to them is the only real way to represent it. Who has the time to figure out every player in the League's daily cap hit anyway? The biggest issue I've seen on these sites is what % of players bonus to count on a team's cap hit. This will be important for us next season because how much room we have for bonuses will determine how much real salary we offer Marty vs. performance bonuses on his 1-year deal.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 3:44 pm EST

Hmm..A 2nd and a 4th for Winnik...I think we need a guy that can play C more but if I had to settle for a 3rd/4th line W, Winnik would have been a good choice for the POs..

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 3:41 pm EST

Winnik to Penguins. Tlusty to Jets.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 3:41 pm EST

two trades announced within moments on twitter...

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 3:09 pm EST

The lazer in action, with a little Messier, for extra viewing pleasure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grOttsHuuzE

ges999


Wed Feb 25 2015 3:05 pm EST

WILDCARD: In theory it is supposed to be all known but it isn't. Why do different sites post different numbers? It all depends on the information that they have available to them. The NHL and teams are the only ones that we can trust to have the exact numbers. Personally, I'd like to see the NHL show that information updated daily on their website. Why not? If the Cap is such a huge part of the game (and it is) why shouldn't the fans know the truth? Why shouldn't we know where each team stands?

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 3:01 pm EST

JFC and HOSPO: I agree with both of your posts regarding MZA and the Rangers Cap space for this year. It is all coming to a head now. We will know in just a few days how this will all unfold. I'm less excited about it then I have been in the past. I used to get excited thinking about who the Rangers could acquire. Not anymore. My attitude these days is that I just hope the Rangers get through the deadline without SATHER doing something stupid or hurting the organization long term. I know the guy has made some masterful trades over the years but he still scares the hell out of me. He is as unpredictable and untrustworthy as a alcoholic bartender. You never know if the night is going to end with a full cash register or him laying on the floor pased out with the money missing........

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:56 pm EST

Vic: The cap numbers are not estimates. The cap hits of each player are known, and the totals are set....the only issue NOW for us regular folks is that absence of cap geek telling us what the cap amount will be at the deadline. However the rangers as well as other teams do play the game of saving a few grand of cap space. This is most likely why Lindberg was sent back, in case they can make a move that works and they need 5 K more in cap space.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:55 pm EST

http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-s-trade-bait-1.203546

puckyou


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:55 pm EST

Rink- not a bad fit IMO, but didn't Anaheim only recently trade for him? Are they now unhappy?

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:52 pm EST

Just typing out loud here; how about Rene Bourque from Anahiem for some forward depth to the bottom line. Big, can score, somewhat of an A-hole and Anahiem would probably chip in on his salary.

RinkRat


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:46 pm EST

Not sure why Leonard threw in that bit about St. Louis GM scouting NYR-Calgary. They are also shopping for D with Shattenkirk out. Either he meant we had interest in their forwards, or they were scouting Calgary or maybe some more nuanced deal: a D swap one of their kids for someone with more experience. Wishful thinking but what if they were willing to move their prospect D Lindbohm, or even pending RFA Ian Cole (both LHS) for Moore+?

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:42 pm EST

VIC - Thanks...If that's the case..if it's that tight, you get a physical depth forward or a physical 6th D-man and call it a day......Now, it there's 3-4 million to spare for this year, it will be shame on Sather for not using it, say on a decent versatile vet forward,

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:41 pm EST

Vic -- if he wants to stay in NY, then it would be futile to ask for $6 mil and he and his agents know that. So, the only question is how does his desire to max his salary compare to his desire to stay in NY? If they told Sather $6 mil as their opening offer, he'd be traded IMO....Sather would have no choice. No way do you get to where the Rangers need him to be cap-wise with $6 mil being the opening gambit. That tells me that that is NOT what he is seeking. If he's traded by the deadline, then we'll know why. Sather has foolishly gotten himself into this predicament. If he loses Zucc for nothing, he's an incompetent fool who should be fired but won't be.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:38 pm EST

Hospo t's a murder mystery....I thought it gets prorated....Sather should have his cap guru post some info here....or anywhere like their website......5 days left until poker game is over.....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:36 pm EST

HOSPO: Lots of different numbers have been thrown around but only the Rangers really know for sure. Personally, I take it as a sign of how tight the Cap numbers really are that the Rangers were so concerned about the day to day Cap hit of LINDBERG that they wouldn't ever bring him up to see what he had even when SHAGGY was struggling a bit. They only brought him up when they had to physically have another forward to play because NASH and FAST were out and then then sent the kid back to Hartford as quickly as possible last night so that they wouldn't incur his Cap hit for today. That tells me they are way closer to the Cap then some estimates have made folks think. It could all be a ruse and it could all be that they were just trying to save as much money as possible to take on the biggest contract possible but if that were the case they would have had to have been playing this game since October. I don't buy it.

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:32 pm EST

Brooks wrote an article a week ago about D being the priority. I'm sure it is-as is a depth forward-however it seems the bidders are plenty and we have little space and less picks, Vermette may yet fetch a number 1 pick which would leave us out (although they may overplay their hand- a-la Garth Snow with Vaneck last year) and everyone wants defense-so price could be too high even for Slats.

puckyou


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:30 pm EST

JFC: Or, MZA could look at it from the perspective of playing for an up and coming team like Dallas with SEGUIN and BENN for line-mates. Playing in a fantastic city in an incredible state that happens to have no state or city income taxes. It all depends on your perspective, doesn't it????

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:28 pm EST

STEVIE - Look, I'm cap challenged or lazy (Take your pick), how much salary can the Rangers take on before Monday at 3:00PM? Didn't somebody calculate that it was somewhere between 3-4 Mill or is that jibbersih and are we really below 1 Mill?

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 2:11 pm EST

Pat Leonard &#10004; @PLeonardNYDN Cap-strapped Rangers in search of help on blue line as Kane's injury throws latest wrinkle into NHL deadline mix http://nydn.us/1LHQete

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:57 pm EST

Methinks the MZA trade rumors are just that-a bit of a sobering jab by Sather to bring his agent out of the stratosphere. He traded Cally the captain-hence he can trade anyone. But he will sign him I'm sure. The Brassard/Mza combo is special chemistry- almost anyone can succeed on the wing with those 2 (except Glass!).

puckyou


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:50 pm EST

Mess: Yes, precisely. And it all may come down to how O`Connor views Skapski and how the organization views him. Is he the real deal...impossible I think for us to say. I wonder what the organization thinks about him. IMO if they feel O`Connor is a better prospect because of the Talbot situation and 2 teenaged goalies, they might be targeting him. Apparently up to 14 teams are interested but I haven't seen a list yet. Apparently a few teams have said he`d get some NHL time this year if he signs with them. Obviously, these are all non-PO teams - where does O`Connor wish to start his pro career also will be a significant factor. Does he want to start on a team like the Leafs or Oilers of Yotes - could be a tough go and a while before he sees PO hockey!

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:46 pm EST

$5 mil for 5 was what I read Zucc wants to end up with...if that's the case, it should get done if he really wants to stay here....RAngers compromise on years, Zucc compromises on $$ per year

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:42 pm EST

stevie -- I'm thinking in the same ballpark....maybe Sather throws in one year at $5 mil....the other years lower. 4.25/4.25/4.5/4.75/5???

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:36 pm EST

Vic -- If Zucc wants to end up on some shit team with lots of cap space, then he'll ask for the sky. If he wants to stay in NY, he will understand the cap situation (which he has already demonstrated he does understand by signing the contract he did when he could have said, "Hey, I led your team in scoring, give me more") and be realistic with his final asking price. From everything I've read and seen, Zucc, Brass, Hags are very tight. His relationship with Hank is that of annoying but loved little brother. His overall relationship with the coach seems to be impeccable....he gets great icetime with great team mates on a team that naturally has The Cup as its goal every year. If Zucc is asking for $6 mil, it means he doesn't want to be in NY any more and money is more important to him than being a Ranger. Something tells me being in NY is going to be a HUGE factor in negotiations which, again, have just started. at some point it may come to an impasse and then it will be up to Zucc to make the final judgement. The agents work for him, not visa versa.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:34 pm EST

my guess is they settle on $4.5 for 4 or 5 years.....should be 5 sather owes him 1......

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:33 pm EST

I think same Brooks article also said Sathers intro offer was 4.25 over three so I don't think MZA is still just asking for 4.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:32 pm EST

that's why sather gets $5mil a year....he better figure it out...jimmyboy has the knicks to watch and cry about......watch that rebuild and how many fans don't show......zen man Jackson probably taking aspirin and more........on the way to the bank.....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:30 pm EST

5 for 5 is MZA's agent ask.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:29 pm EST

RF- thats a good point, but Skapski could be closer than we think is already challenging for starter in Hartford and getting a start or two here. I think O'Connor has to look here and think, well maybe I can start in Hartford, maybe hold NYR backup for a year or two if Talbot is moved and I beat Skapski.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:28 pm EST

I agree that trading away MZA in the next few days would have significant negative repercussions. Lately he`s consistently been the best or among the best forward and it`s no coincidence during that time the Rangers have been scoring a lot of goals. I`d argue if he`s not the engine driving the offense, he`s a main cog in it. He`d have to be replaced and not by anyone currently on the team or on the Pack (I mean duh to the latter). It would mean therefore, a trade. That would, in turn, cause more disruption in the lineup. I simply cannot see Sather taking that risk, regardless of where the negotiations are or appear to be headed for come deadline day. I`m not ncesssarily concurring with that stance, just on Sather`s motivation.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:27 pm EST

Kreider has been playing with Step all year and won't get close to 60. That's just not realistic. Stepan is good but he is not Gretzky/Crosby/Lemieux is isn't going to transform third-liners or NCAA signees like Hagerty into 60+ point players.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:24 pm EST

JFC: I read earlier this week that the MZA camp started negotiations with a demand for a 5 year deal north of $25,000,000. As always with such stuff, of course they will start high (and Sather low). How low are they willing to come down appears to be the key because, as we`ve been saying, how can the Rangers add that sort of contract to their already squeezed cap....

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:24 pm EST

Losing MZA would be HUGE. Think Cally walking without getting MSL back. Not only no ECF appearance, but some overpriced mercenary whose contract wed have to buy out or move down the line. Moulson maybe, who has not been so good. MZA walks, then we will be in that market again this off season. If we trade him, we aren't in as bad a position as we were with Cally last season because MZA'a contract request is realistic for his current production. Should come away with prospects/picks or a player, probably similar to MSL but lower output, less expensive. Will not bring what MZA does, because just so very few people in this league bring all of that. Ideally, we can keep him.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:23 pm EST

As for MZA, he may have agreed to take less this year to help the team but does that mean the team now owes him whatever he wants? I don't think so. If I am him I am asking for $6 Mil per on a 5 year deal. There are MANY comparable contracts out there that he can point to and show he is a better player. If he goes to UFA status he will likely get that kind of a contract from someone. He may settle for $5.5 Mil but he is in the drivers seat here. Why should he settle for $5 Mil or less. It is one thing to say that he wants to stay a Ranger. It is another thing entirely for him to accept $5 Mil less on a contract (assuming $1 Mil per year less on a 5 year deal) and then have to pay NY State and City taxes on that already reduced contract when he could get so much more and maybe play in a state like TX or FL where there is no state tax.

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:22 pm EST

Mess: Perhaps, but he could look at it this way, too: Talbot could very well be an ex-Ranger after next season and the 2 teenaged prospects are arguably years away. That leaves Skapski and Malcolm. If O`Connor is confident and realistic (re he won`t be playing in the NHL next year for anyone) he might view that as reasonable competition that he can handle. It depends of course, also on how he views playing for the Rangers and what Sather and company are thinking. All that said, I concur the possibilities of him signing don`t appear to be high.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:20 pm EST

Who says Zucc is going to get $5 mil for 5 years? I read an article that said that is what Zucc is looking for and the Rangers were looking at only 4 years and $4 mil...if that's the case, he could go for less money in order to get more years. I don't see them as being that far apart considering negotiations have just started....I think it behooves Sather to get a deal done ASAP because the onus is on HIM, not Zuccarello. Zuc led the team with 60 points last year and he'll get close to that this tyear....you can't just take THAT out of the lineup either....not to mention his defensive prowess and tenacity and everything else he brings to the table. St. louis has very little leverage AFAIAC....he's on the back 9 of his career and the Rangers offer him a situation that is ideal for him and his family. If he wants to max out his salary based on his ego and his reputation, at the expense of signing Zuccarello and others, then he doesn't deserve to be signed. We'll see how much of a team guy he is very soon....Zucc has already put his money where his mouth is.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:19 pm EST

St Louis is 40 & very much showing his age in tougher matches. Sure he managed to filk an empty net a few times against a lesser team. But we whoever is playing with Stepan should be WAY over 60 pts. Step is proving he is one of the premier playmakers, was on pace for 80 before certain pucks stopped going in. That shouldnt be wasted with Step having to throw MSL over his shoulder and carry him.and for St Louis to suddenly score more, after a year 1/2 here whete hes scoring LESS, seems unlikely. Im not sure NHL record for over-40 pts, but to get near that range he mught have to put in one of the great senior seasons ever LOL.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:17 pm EST

Really good summary (IMO) of all eastern teams and their trade desires on TSN.CA. There`s nothing new here but it`s all wrapped up in one detailed article that also provides each team`s pending RFAs and UFAs.: http://www.tsn.ca/trade-deadline-playbook-east-1.215823

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:15 pm EST

RF4L: Yep, I think it is a foregone conclusion that one of BRASSARD and STEPAN will be moved in the off season assuming something big doesn't go down by Monday. There is just no other way to make the money work and of all of the roster spots that is the one that can be moved that will have the least negative impact on the team moving forward. HAYES will move into the #2 spot and the Rangers will bring in either DUKE or BUCH (maybe both) along with possibly HAGGERTTY to round out the roster with cap friendly contracts. No way the Rangers let HAGS go. Too valuable a player in all 3 zones and his speed is the thing that makes AV's system work.

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:15 pm EST

For those that are interested in the lazer puck - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FoxTrax

ges999


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:15 pm EST

RF- I doubt it, given our current depth at that position. Not that were against acquiring a goalie prospect, but certainly in no position to be a contender. O'Conner has to look at Talbot Skapski Halverson Shesturkin Malcolm and he has a tough road at ever being backup for the Rangers

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:13 pm EST

MZA at 5 for 5 could force a trade of Hags/Step/Brass but I think its more likely that itd result in deals for Step and Hagelin that are shorter term and more expensive for those fewer years- in other words, deals that aren't as good for us and will hamper our ability to ice a deep team late into those (Stepan and Hags) terms

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:10 pm EST

JFC: Ditto, although I worry his speed and forechecking would be missed more than some might realize.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:09 pm EST

I wonder if the Rangers are one of the alleged 14 teams in on UFA collegiate goalie Matt O`Connor....

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:08 pm EST

Anyone's points next season or at the end of this season is arbitrary. By that logic, someone like Duke/Buch/Haggerty could pull down the first line just as effectively because they both start out at zero points. MSL is on track for 60. Brooks piece on MSL earlier this week quoted him saying that everyone thought after 2005-06 he'd only be good for the 60 points he scored that season. 2006-07 he scored 102. Nash had 39 points last season everyone here thought we should be giving his money to other players this season, but this season he's on track for 82 points. Most importantly, you're not giving MSL money to keep other players or any other player, unless its Stempniak. He's just not making that much next season.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:02 pm EST

I also think that it's very possible that Hagelin gets traded in order to free up $$

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:01 pm EST

RR: WIth or without MSL, I don`t see how Sather can afford MZA at $5,000,000+ if he intends to resign Stepan and keep Brassard.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 1:00 pm EST

Just read the Lindros article. If Stewart made it all up he has a right to be angry. If, however, the basic slant of the article is accurate, it`s rather amusing. If I had to bet I`d bet that of the 2 individuals, Stewart is being more truthful. I mean, Lindros and controversy isn`t exactly a contradiction.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:55 pm EST

Zuc gets a nice longterm deal. St Louis gets the door. Use the money to sign a solid UFA, have Duclair/Buch/Haggerty fight it out, or make a trade for a strong young player that can score and take your chances. No guarantee MSL is any where near 60pts, a totally arbitrary number anyway. The Rangers dont owe St Louis anything that they have to keep giving him a spot as long as he wants to play. Not the yahtzee club in boca raton.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:48 pm EST

JFC: Yup! Well liked by the fans, Hank (as you point out) and the coach who stated as much two weeks ago to anyone in the press who would care to listen. I think/ hope it gets done.

PatrickDiv


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:46 pm EST

250k x 5 years is 1.25 million, or what some of us believe to be the low end of what MSL could sign for. He won't play for free.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:44 pm EST

Mess -- that was exactly the point of my recommendations....trying to find a way to keep MSL at a cheap price in order to help us keep Zucc or others. Promising MSL a place in the organization after he retires is one way to encourage MSL to be flexible....very flexible, hopefully.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:41 pm EST

PatDiv -- that is exactly right....if the story about Zucc taking less to help Sather out with the cap is indeed true, then you know Zucc has told his friends on the team the same thing. If Sather busts Zucc's cogliones and plays hard ball with him....not keeping his promise to repay Zucc ofr "taking one for the team", then his credibility will be totally shot and it will effect future negotiations with every player going forward. Zucc is well liked and respected in the locker room and on the ice....including big time by Hank.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:39 pm EST

JFC- 200k 250k per year MAY be enough to sway MZA, but by taking it from MSL you have just subtracted 60 points from the lineup to keep 50. Need to find a way to keep both, especially if the 60 is willing to stay for one or two million per. Thats a bargain you won't get anywhere else.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:38 pm EST

I Love this.... Eric Lindros has launched a $3 million defamation lawsuit against one-time NHL referee Paul Stewart and the Huffington Post, after Stewart wrote a column for the online news website that allegedly made the former Philadelphia Flyers star forward look like a "dickhead." .....http://www.tsn.ca/lindros-files-lawsuit-against-former-referee-1.215863

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:37 pm EST

I am confident that Zucc gets his deal done. Not doing so would seriously damage the GM's and Teams credibility after Zucc took a low contract to help the team last year (along with a promise to make it up to him on the next go-round). This would bite them in the ass when it came to other contract negotiations, FA's and could potentially damage the fabric of the locker room as Zucc is very well liked by the team and the fan base (have you heard the loud Zuuucs come up from the crowd when he touches the puck on the road?). In addition to this, have you noticed that every time Sather gets to this negotiation point with an RFA the stories about the team potentially trading the player starts to come up? My 10 year old has already said if they let my Zuccie go I am never rooting for this team again. He added that he will become a fan of whatever team he went to- even the Flyers! At this point the paternal instinct in me came out. I validated his emotion and then squashed the whole Flyer thing with a vengeance!!!

PatrickDiv


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:33 pm EST

When the cap is as tight as it appears to be for the Rangers, every bit that can be saved is significant. It could come down to a $250,000 figure that makes the difference on a guy like MZA signing or not. Sather should leave no stone unturned and do creative things such as what I suggested for MSL...even if it's a verbal agreement that gets him to take less. If Zucc's desire to stay in NY and be with his buds is strong, then I can see him taking a 5 year contract that involves $4.25 - $4.75 mil incrementally.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:19 pm EST

That would be a very foolish trade.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:18 pm EST

Can Peter Puck explain us the CBA? That would be helpful.

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:13 pm EST

Thats an Eklund trade. Wheres THE_Kreider?

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:11 pm EST

MZA, Miller, Stempniak, and a 2nd for Sharp?

Higgy21


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:06 pm EST

Re MZA - it's all dependent I think on what he insists he should be paid. There doesn't appear to enough cap space to give him $5,000,000 or over, unless Sather is prepared to move one of Stepan/Brassard over the summer (for picks/prospects).

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:03 pm EST

More likely overpaying MZA will come at the expense of how much of Stepan's and Hagelins UFA years we can purchase in their next contracts.Thats where the money is at.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 12:00 pm EST

If MSL plays his cards right and takes a nice, big pay cut for the sake of the RAngers cap situation, he can set up his entire future by becoming part of the MSG "family", representing the Rangers ala Rod Gilbert, Adam Graves, etc. He lives in CT and it would be a perfect set up for him. Rangers should set up a contract that includes a place for MSL in the organization after he retires....that will encourage MSL to take less in his last contract(s).

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:59 am EST

JFC- if the MSL offer is for 1 year and the amount is between 1-3 million, there isn't much to come out of it, even if you give MZA the whole thing over 5 years.

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:57 am EST

BTW, I know the NHL is still interested in that type of technology for the puck but not really for visual TV reasons. They want to give the announcers more stuff to talk about (shot speed, etc) and also give the coaches and the league more data on various things. I had read at one point that they were thinking about putting chips in the players' skates to track how fast they were skating, the tightness of their turns, etc.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:54 am EST

stevie -- I think Fox and their crazy glowing puck was in the mid-late 90's.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:51 am EST

And the obvious answer for how you get MZA signed for amybe a little more than Sather prefers, is you make up the difference by taking it out of MSL's offer.

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:50 am EST

Zuccarello isnt't going anywhere for exactly the reasons you guys just outlined. First, the Rangers need him....you lose him now, you also mess up your #1 line chemistry. Secondly, once he gets past March 2 it would be the height of incompetence to lose him for nothing....Sather would look like a fool. Hopefully, Zucc's agent doesn't act like a prick and try to use that leverage to ask for outrageous money because then Sather would have a bit of an excuse....not a good one, but still an excuse. The retort would obviously be, "Why did you let it get to that point instead of signing him during the season or locking him up long term instead of getting him to sign a low-ball $3.5 offer for one year?"

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:47 am EST

Purple Hayes comes through with another Gratefull Goal!

Jerry_Garcia


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:46 am EST

sather has to sign mza.....the guy gave him what he wanted, now they have to find a compromise whether glennie likes it or not.....this is not a cally deal.....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:43 am EST

Agree

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:37 am EST

RF4L: I don't think it is a tough call at all. You cannot allow someone of that value to walk for nothing at the end of the year UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. That is why CALLY needed to be dealt and yes, STAAL would have been in the same boat. If SATHER cannot resign MZA by Monday he MUST be dealt for whatever they can get in return.

Vic


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:27 am EST

IMO, losing MZA for nothing this summer would be foolish, just like losing Staal that way would have. Tough call for Sather, however. Moving MZA would most definitely create a hole in the top 6.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:15 am EST

words of wisdom abound.....sometimes the worst moves are because you didn't make them....this team needs more experienced playoff help......if they can afford it......standing pat is not a good move for this season.....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 11:08 am EST

I was just having that same conversation on twitter about Zuke. The Rangers are trying to play hardball and get him to blink first. I suppose that's what you get for being a "team first" guy, right?

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:54 am EST

Sometimes the best move is the one you don't make

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:53 am EST

sounds like Rangers are trying to give Zuc a kick in the ass in negotiations, as there's now supposedly some buzz out there he could be available. Dont make me LAUGH!

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:48 am EST

The Rangers play 5 back-to-backs starting March 10. They play 3 games in 4 nights twice and 4 games in 6 nights twice. All but 4 games in March are against playoff teams. I know hockey players typically don't take days off like basketball and baseball players do, but man that is a grueling stretch. I sure hope The King comes back close to the 10th.

pete


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:44 am EST

To date this has to be IMO the worse trade deadline (at least running up to it) ever. I cannot believe the constant rehashing of the same old names and to date, so little activity. So boring. So frustrating. So much ado about nothing.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:34 am EST

Burrows was with the twins for our recent game

Messier11


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:25 am EST

moof less than 125 hours to go......get your calculator on minutes or seconds.....and more cowbell.....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:19 am EST

jfc the 70's ?..... fox with their laser puck tracker was when ? still trying to figure out why msg said it was going to be on espn. they gave up or lost the nhl a while ago.

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:08 am EST

RF73: I didn't see that game but totally not surprised that 1) Nash got singled out and 2) no Ranger responded. The latter is AV's philosophy and yeah, it sure is maddening. As the POs near, Nash will likely get more similar treatment. How ironic that this team it came from a team competing for the right to draft Connor McDavid...

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 10:01 am EST

That's pretty good Rhet. New twist...

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:56 am EST

RF4L---(Nash has neck spasms - could that be from the abuse he took in Buffalo??)...Probably, but what is equally as bad is the fact that not one Ranger came to his aid and made a statement about not tolerating a mugging of the leagues leading scorer...Totally unacceptable...I'm getting tired (and hoarse) from screaming at the TV.

RF73


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:52 am EST

Per Aaron Portzline....... Told James Wisniewski's list of 10 no-trade teams was put together in a way to make it more difficult for CBJ to trade. In other words ...... teams with no cap room and no need for offensive defensemen were approved, while teams with glaring need/cap room were on no-trade list.

Rhet0ric


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:49 am EST

With Kane hurt, does Chicago now go all in on getting Vermette? The plot thickens..........and Leon's getting larger!

RinkRat


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:29 am EST

D was better last night but still a lot of bad turnovers. Not impressed with Hunwick last night. Also thought Marty took a step back after a nice couple of games. Crowd was rather subdued last night. Lots of empty seats behind the bench area. Guess the rich celebrities don't like to come out in the cold?

ges999


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:29 am EST

HOSPO - Oh I agree. I think that forward depth for the PO's needs to be addressed. I was kinda bummed when they announced the Sean Bergenheim deal during the game last night. I would still like Vermette brought in but thinking the NYR's won't bid too high for him. More depth, more depth and then bring in more depth.

RinkRat


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:28 am EST

stevie -- way back in the 70's, NBC did NHL games but I guess they were all on during the day, not prime time. Do you remember Peter Puck? Little talking cartoon puck that taught people what off-sides and icing were! LOL! Loved that little jerk. THat was such a coup for the NHL and they blew it. The reason it happened is because a guy named Scotty Connal was a sports producer at NBC and he was a terrific American hockey player. He did not mnake it to the NHL, largely because Americans were not, shall we say, "welcomed" in Canada in the 40's and 50's. Anyway, it was Scotty Connal's idea that if you publicized hockey to a national audience, people would love it and hockey would grow. I got all this info 1st hand because Scotty Connal grew up in the house next to mine and his dad (a fine Scottish gentleman who was like a third grandfather to my family) still lived there while I was growing up. He used to get me used NHL sticks, that if I had saved them instead of using them for street hockey, I'd have a great collection right niow! Who knew?? Scotty went on to be a founder of ESPN after NBC

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:22 am EST

RINKRAT - Regarding "TRADES"--That will be a huge mistake IMWO..They have been playing crap teams for so long..Some of it's real...some of it's a mirage....It's a different world come POs when it's a top 8 team every night..and it;s tighter and there'sless space,,.....A little vet experience, skill, and all around playwill be HUGE for this team,.....And one thing for sure is they have to start playing team defense every night like they returned to last night..

Hospo


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:10 am EST

mf: Not sure and Vrbata is playing - he had 15 minutes last night. Kassian's goal came off assists from the twins.

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 9:02 am EST

Well, the D-Zone coverage was better....but they need to string some games together like that before I will feel better. FLAMES - I give them credit. They are a tough hard working team (with a few missing pieces) but they could be a very tough out in the PO's. BRASSARD - He continues to impress me. Especially come PO time when he turns it up a notch....fun to watch. TRADES - Now starting to think that this is the team the Rangers go to war with (because the asking price is too high and what appears to be a desire to hold on to picks and prospects) or they pick up someone most of us has never heard of before (depth F). KLEIN - Some good physical play from him last night.....I liked it.

RinkRat


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:56 am EST

RF: when did they take Vrbata off that line? Is he injured? Kassian with the twins sounds fishy..

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:51 am EST

BTW gotta figure Kassian is off the market (and who knows if he ever really was) seeing as he's now playing with the Sedin twins and scoring goals. Funny how we were reading recently that he can't skate yet somehow he's keeping up with the Sedins...

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:50 am EST

Placid Ranger: (oh the power of suggestion) RHS or LHS dman?

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:45 am EST

Great game last night.. Talbot did his job and the Team Defensive Effort was present.. This team has a lot of ways to beat you, managing the GA's is a fundamental way to vastly improve those odds.. (Duh)

mf


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:44 am EST

Thank you, RFC Admin....

JFC31


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:29 am EST

Maybe Stevie bring Lindberg back, find a way to get Glencross in & Glass out, and thats it. You leave the forwards. Add a D. Its a lot to ask of kids, these POs especially. Same time, fresh legs count in late rounds.and these kids - Miller, Lindberg, Fast - they can all shoot the puck.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:21 am EST

Anyway, a few little early posts and more than some people bring here in their LIFE. Some of the same who come from nowhere to atrack me. Kast I have to say on all that. I was extremely wrong for going off like that yesterday. Itd been building, and the train just too off! Lol. Apologies.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:20 am EST

maybe vino will have an epiphany on Hayes if Sather can get him a center or afford to promote cheesy for more than 6 minutes.....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:17 am EST

Nash has neck spasms - could that be from the abuse he took in Buffalo??

RF4L


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:16 am EST

https://twitter.com/war_on_ice?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Frangers.lohudblogs.com%2F2015%2F02%2F24%2Frangers-1-flames-0-post-game-notes-quotes%2F&tw_i=570467347271688192&tw_p=embeddedtimeline&tw_w=316282543467020288

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:14 am EST

if they can het general ramo cheap, he looked pretty good for a backup goalie role......think he was #3 star....

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:11 am EST

Best behavior admin. JT is turning corner again. He played MEAN last night. Not just the fight but hard hits, carried stick high. And got ROBBED. Holy bejesus what a save. And btw, no trouble but I can point out differences, right? Remember what people said here? Cause a certain someone made a wiseass remark when I said Hayes would br fine switched to eing cause hed played there all his life. Welk he played LW last night. Probably best game of its career.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:04 am EST

This goes for everybody -- just follow the rules of the site, show respect towards each other and above all else show respect to the site itself... this place does not have to exist. If something is off topic, there's another place for that. Do not post it here in an attempt to piss off other people. If you are going to attack other users and use profanity, threats or take thinly veiled pot shots in an attempt to provoke other users... you will be dealt with. Enough is enough.

RFCAdmin


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:02 am EST

Wow, a +19 sat corsi. Wait, whats that mean? Id kill myself before quoting a stat like that.not you Stevie. The idiot who thought it so important to tweet.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 8:01 am EST

"Miller engaged in his first NHL fight with rookie Michael Ferland at 5:39 of the second period. Ferland asked to go, Miller said. "I don't mind mixing it up," he said. "No bad blood between me and him. I never played against him." advertisement | advertise on newsday Asked about the scrap, Vigneault wondered why Miller dropped the gloves, shrugged and said: "Boys will be boys."

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:59 am EST

even though msg said espn..... zip says "Take this weekend. NBC is scheduled to show the Rangers-Flyers game at 8 p.m. Saturday. Not NBCSN -- NBC. It will be the first prime-time, regular-season, indoor NHL game shown on NBC since the network acquired NHL rights in 2006 -- and might well be the first such game on a broadcast network in American television history."

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:56 am EST

Seth Rothman @RothmanHockey #Rangers Dan Girardi was a +19 SAT/Corsi tonight. Fifth-best performance of his career, according to @war_on_ice.

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:53 am EST

Rangers Report &#10004; @rangersreport Talbot and Lundqvist are first Rangers goalie tandem with four (or more) shutouts each since Giacomin and Villemure in '70-71.

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:52 am EST

@AGrossRecord Talbot says defensive effort in front of him was "probably one of the most complete games we've played this year."

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:50 am EST

for those on a learning curve, when veenyo said he thought about going with 7 d, he meant to play both Attila and dinty, rather than call up cheesy......

stevielegs


Wed Feb 25 2015 7:42 am EST

Im down on Stewart after a real ugly game against us. But one thing you cant underestimate is how a guy like that would look with our playmakers. If a guy like Brass id making plays like last night, most anybody can finish them off. Most anybody. I havent had a real good look at game yet. Think I noticed Glencross once or twice, seemed to be skating well. Thing Hayes has is when hes going hes around the puck alot. Cant teach that. And Lindberg waits 6 months, plays very well for 7 mins, wakes up back in htfd. Gotta be tough. Glass -15 is looming larger. Ive been one of his few supporters. But when its upgrade time, hey, anywhere you can improve.....

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:44 am EST

I know I might be one of the few who has a positive thought about Stewart, but quietly he is on pace for a .40 ppg season on a crap team....and he is a dependent player, he doesn't lead a line he is part of one. The price recently reported for what BUF wants is a B+ prospect.....significantly less than the First rounder and a top prospect originally talked about...not sure what The actual cost will be but there will be lots of teams in on him.

Wildcard


Wed Feb 25 2015 6:04 am EST

Yeah, what happened to Hayes head? Scooby will be confused! Hayes takes this learning curve a little farther hes got a chance to get to a special place.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 5:11 am EST

You said it Messier. You have no inside info. Dont be jealous. You dont have any insight either LOL. Mike Richards? 50 shades of stupid. Hey Ola.

Rabid Ranger


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:29 am EST

i loved this game. Hayes has been awsome the last month. This is what I've ment for a while re trading youth for vets. Hayes played like a 6m player last night, that's I think we need to actually win a cup. A few of these kids stepping up and playing OUT OF THEIR MINDS. Just fixing some flaws by adding safe vets improves us a bit but probably not enough. I love Dom Moore, awsome 4th line C. Glass played well and was valuble for us. Boyle played real well.

Ola


Wed Feb 25 2015 4:25 am EST

Rabid I know ppl at this place can be annoying, I am one of them for sure (common denominator at this place lol), but just stay calm and argue your points.

Ola


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:37 pm EST

NOW a prediction that were getting a depth D. We've been shopping for a depth D ALL SEASON LONG. CONGRATULATIONS, YOU CALLED IT

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:35 pm EST

I don't have insider info. I never claimed to. But that doesn't mean Im going to believe some crazy who says he does but is either never right or just takes credit after the fact.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:32 pm EST

I like RF a lot so ill heed. But thats a lot of garbage to be RIGHT on lol. You dont know the half of it. Gimme the depth D theyre getting, right now? Tell me. Cause unless domething big changes, this guys a ranger. You telk me & ill tell you ghe RIGHT name.. BOY.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:30 pm EST

Vinny Lecav. Mike Richards. Vermette. GARBAGE. Never in a million years.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:26 pm EST

As Rhetoric stated, Kane- was all over boards for days, not to mention he's been a regular name on rumor mill for years. Everyone knew Torts- was on his way out that was obvious. I was probably the one who called it earliest here, but Im not taking credit bc it was obvious even by that point he was on his way out if he didn't deliver big. Gaborik- as soon as Torts had the talk with him, HIS name was all over the boards as well. You said you were in on Jordin Staal a week before the rumor but the earliest you posted on him was 48 hours prior which lines up to when the rumor appeared on Spector. Hanzal- was being held out pending a done trade, even though he took a hard check the game before and left during it, of course. You've said John Moore is certain to be traded. Looking less likely but we've all speculated that he'd go the opposite way for another D. And tonight, Lindberg meant there was a trade except now Lindberg is on his way to Hartford and Nash has neck spasms. Its all GARBAGE and if anyone is still buying that, its on them.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:19 pm EST

Yes RR I see that. But geesh man, you're inability to not take the bait like a starving fish makes you as guilty as those you are pointing fingers at. And the pure vile you spout makes you look worse. I've no idea about how legitimate you are of course, but if you are indeed a victim as much as not, it means you cannot help yourself so do us all a favour and go away for a while. Please. Before either the site gets shut down or all who remains is you and those you're pissing with.

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:00 pm EST

RR: OMG man, STFU. Please. Please.

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:52 pm EST

Tonights shutout moves our GAA down to 2.37 from 2.42... That's what we need... imo ... http://www.nhl.com/stats/team?season=20142015&gameType=2&viewName=goalsAgainst#

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:50 pm EST

JFC and RHET: MZA was drilled hard twice in the first period. He stayed in the game but didn't nearly look like himself after that. Couple that with having to play with a new guy on that line and you can't really expect much in their first game. Still, they got the only goal. And, I don't buy the story on NASH. He took two hard shots to the back of the head by BOGOSIAN. He looked a little dazed when it happened. I really hope it isn't concussion symptoms again. If so, and if he reverts back to the way he played last year the Rangers are done. LINDBERG looked good like I thought he would. Steady and responsible but don't expect him to create offense. TALBOT was solid. Had a few issues with that damn glove but otherwise was in position and moved well.

Vic


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:45 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/24/nash-replacement-hayes-scores-only-goal-in-rangers-win/

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:41 pm EST

Hayes 67% FOs. Miller 50%, Dom 91%

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:38 pm EST

NASH- neck spasms??? sure hope that isn't a medically creative way to describe concussion symptoms...

schneidw


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:32 pm EST

Rangers reached 80 points in 59th game. That's the sixth-fewest games needed in team history to reach 80 points.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:28 pm EST

BTW, Stempnicrap sucks. Cannot wait until he's gone. And I simply don't get AV's adoration of Hunwick.

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:28 pm EST

moof and not a nyr response...turn the other cheek...so you can't turn your neck....glass should be benched for not doing his job , or is there a leash on him?.....

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:27 pm EST

Kostka of course

stepunmytoe


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:26 pm EST

Placid Ranger: "ga nook"... That's yiddish for, "enough." Yeah, I'm a Yid.. ha

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:25 pm EST

I wonder why AV thought about calling up a 7D when already has rotation going with Moore/Hunwick? sit Boyle? and if so, which D would he have called up? McIlrath, Allen or Kostka

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:23 pm EST

Rigjt Wild! You & the EXACT guys who ran the place into the ground With your ractics! But a new poster comes slong & doesnt take your shir, YOU CANT HANDLE IT!! How you likin my tactics? :) obligatory hockey mention; 26-6 last 32. Mess, lol, im sure youre still readin (as opposed to posts from an actual crazy) so dont forget, fuck you!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:23 pm EST

maybe by the crack of Bogosians cross checking him from behind a couple of six times.. I recall it looking a little like whiplash and when done Nash took a look at him with a, WTF is wrong with you, you young moron.....

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:22 pm EST

SportsCenter.... Patrick Kane leaves game w/ upper-body injury after crashing into boards. Kane leads Chicago w/ 64 Pts (27 G, 37 A).

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:21 pm EST

Leddy 7 years at 5.5M per????Staal signing was a STEAL

schneidw


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:18 pm EST

moof they lie with a straight face......maybe he fell asleep by the crack....in the window !

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:18 pm EST

If were that close to cap hell,,, Then how are many speculating about buying? Sending salary the other way or waivers.

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:18 pm EST

The New York Rangers now have the best goal differential in the NHL (+41).... unadjusted

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:17 pm EST

A guy's gotta eat, MF. Ok, back to work! Hahaha... Hey, the big ban could come any moment.... so.. lol..fuck you YORK! Another RFC prick. Tellin you now (unlikely) but if some newbie comes along and reads all this & actually takes a position opposing yours, ITS NOT ME! That happened last time, some poor soul, i forget his name. And you SWORE it was me! It wasnt! I didnt post for a year! But they banned that guy too! He said like 3 sentences! Lol. Removed his posts! (Which were nothing terrible). And yet the Total Twats remain. Mess is hunched over now, salivating at the thought he can then re-write history! Him and his gaggle of douchebags. Where you live Mess? I want to come make amnends lol..

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:17 pm EST

Talbot quiet tonight and significant better rebound control.. best game in awhile ...perhaps the SO win settled him down ...

sjw


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:16 pm EST

Time to rename this place to IDIOTfancentral...

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:15 pm EST

Enough already. Me and York , me and RF4L..Mess...me and others I am sure over the last 14 years or so I've been here have gone rounds but nothing has been posted like what RABID just posted. Don't know if others feel this way. But if so please like me post and say this : All powerful of the Wall administrators, do something about this, arguments are one thing. That type of nastiness is totally unwanted.

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:14 pm EST

mf... Whenever I've had a bad neck from sleeping on it funny, the only way to really fix it is by sleeping on it right.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:14 pm EST

Zip quoting AV: Lindberg played well. Thought about calling up 7th D went with Lindberg instead.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:13 pm EST

Slegs: AV just said he put plenty of ice on his neck... All from sleeping.. Sure...

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:11 pm EST

Mess: Agreed. Why take the cap hit for a practice day? He can be recalled for the game if needed.

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:10 pm EST

moof was he laughing in his sleep?.....

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:09 pm EST

Seth Rothman.... Hayes on taking Nash's spot on top line: "I'm nothing like Rick Nash, but I was lucky enough to get a goal out there and kind of produce."

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:09 pm EST

Bogosian had nothing to do with it. He slept funny..

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:08 pm EST

is there a fu 3 ? 4? ....999?

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:07 pm EST

so do a few others....and go to sleep like rip van winkle.....

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:06 pm EST

Hey Schneid! Sry, today required extreme measures. Pretty sure weve gad some nice exchanges in the past. Sry you feel that way & FU too.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:06 pm EST

nash needs to buy a 'my pillow',,,,,,

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:04 pm EST

here we go again

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:04 pm EST

RR: shot your load and fell asleep did ya? ;-)

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:03 pm EST

Steve Zipay...... AV: Nash had neck stiffness from "sleeping" funny, getting treatment, taking meds, unclear if he'll practice Wed. Unrelated to Columbus gm

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:03 pm EST

Lindberg should be playing? I was screaming thatvin JULY. I was screaming it last year over glopdymopsey Richards! I had to cool it to scan past one sleep inducing post after another on the rudiments of team building, asset-hoarding, cap management and 5th grade level statistical & personnel 'analysis' from smug cunts like Messier 11. Who wants to sit there, absorb & use my knowledge and monikers (3C yeah, not yours), and then the bitch actually says my further analysis, that it could in fact be a showcase, is somehow dragging down earnest fans who are excited for his debut! What a bunch of shit. Get it straight you SMUG SCUMBAG, you are a pedestrian hockey mind - at best - with your $5m St Louis Expertise. I am one of the great hockey minds of this or any generation. You are priviledged to even read what I post - for others, and certainly not for yourself. And then his little friend Wild wants to interject himself. Another guy sitting there scanning everything not for its content but for an angle tovtry to appear smart. They fool no one. Its was ok Torts scratched Zuc in the POs for Gilroy? Yeah, suck my nut. Its one of the main reasons Torts was fired. Assholes.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:03 pm EST

zip also saying Lindberg back down. Next game is Jersey so maybe just a case of calling him back up on game night.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:02 pm EST

Boston & Philthy both lose... hahahahahaha

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:01 pm EST

Steve Zipay &#8207;@stevezipay 48s48 seconds ago AV: Nash had neck stiffness from "sleeping" funny, getting treatment, taking meds, unclear if he'll practice Wed. Unrelated to Columbus gm

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:01 pm EST

hopefully just conjecture

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:00 pm EST

Lindberg gets Hags and Miller? Poor Moore. He must be praying for Fast to return.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:00 pm EST

Pat Leonard...... Vigneault doesn't believe Nash is a concern after this. NYR send Lindberg right back to Hartford cuz they r tight near cap ceiling

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:59 pm EST

nyr best record since December....impressive......what is it 28-6-2?

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:57 pm EST

schneidw, it's quiet here now isn't it? why plant those kind of seeds?

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:57 pm EST

Hagelin-Lindberg-Miller were on the ice for zero scoring chances against.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:56 pm EST

Lindberg is a good face off man he led the Swedish elite league 2 years in a row in face off percentages.

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:54 pm EST

SLegs: Lindberg's cap hit of $675K frees up $775K if he replaces TGO, the Glass One on the 4th.. He can skate rings around Glass, take F/O's, & is defensively responsible.. As important, the kid knows where the back of the net is.. Could set up or score an important goal for us.. Get Bozak!

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:52 pm EST

I say that, but Sather moved Rupp so anything is possible.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:51 pm EST

I don't know that AV loves Glass anymore but that contract is tough to move and he'd probably rather keep him up than demote him given the options. AV is a four line guy but he cant roll four with stemp and glass so I think we would like a way out. It also must be at least a little awkward as clearly he requested Glass and Sather overpaid for him so now he's supposed to go ask Sather to move him out? Like he could.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:51 pm EST

Rabid = douchebag

schneidw


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:50 pm EST

JFC...That's because he doesn't have Nash to pass it to.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:48 pm EST

Wild game end to end. Time to press box Glass and Boyle for a game or 2.

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:48 pm EST

boy Leetch has so much charisma....lol......

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:47 pm EST

soon as Nash is ok, goodbye to cheesy......veenyo is a glass fan......

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:46 pm EST

Big difference in the number of shots Zucc takes without Nash playing

JFC31


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:44 pm EST

the prince beats general ramo......shut00000ut.....

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:43 pm EST

Bunt hunt punt runt....aunt......

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:43 pm EST

night boys play nice

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:41 pm EST

Hmmm..a little better than the last three games of ragged hockey..but still just eeking things out against 2nd division clubs...Doesn't bode well for the future in my eyes.,,Some slack for not having Nash.Team defense a bit better though, that I like..That's should be the Rangers base.Keep piling up trhose points

Hospo


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:41 pm EST

Hayes to wing. Lindy stays. Glass sits. Stemp waits

stepunmytoe


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:40 pm EST

Agree hopefully Lindberg gets at least a few games. Glass and Stemp can sit for sure.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:40 pm EST

Rumor has it that Hayes didn't like being called Shaggy on The Wall, so he cut his hair....

JFC31


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:39 pm EST

Wild game end to end. Time to press box Glass and Boyle for a game or 2.

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:39 pm EST

I like Ramo, but we have to be able to get more goals in a game against Calgary, even without Nash. Our offense isn't clicking like it did at this point last season and we are still playing around with the lines. Wherever/whatever the fix is, need to start building line/pairing chemistry in advance of the POs

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:39 pm EST

It was only one game, but I think it indicates that the Rangers brass think Hayes would be just fine if they had to move him to wing. Makes the acquisition of a 3rd line C more possible

JFC31


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:38 pm EST

Trade the King! Doh!!!!!

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:37 pm EST

The Rangers keep finding new and different ways to win every game. Lindberg stays!!!

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:31 pm EST

This is where i totally disagree with AV. Linberg should be getting more minutes. Glass should be glued to the bench(late in the game).

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:31 pm EST

Only on Sundays MF

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:29 pm EST

probably eats a lot of eye-talian food

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:29 pm EST

No doubt. Hayes was an excellent signing. Kid is going to be a player.

Bob


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:28 pm EST

What kind of name is barto? probably short, fat & nerdy...

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:27 pm EST

mf.., I love you man!

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:26 pm EST

ez/pa: I didn't take what you posted in anything but a positive light.. no problemo's man :-)

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:24 pm EST

Spirited debate is good but name calling and physical challenges are very high school at best.

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:22 pm EST

Calgary coming apart at the seams. They play a two-period game

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:22 pm EST

Hayes not too Shaggy on the wing. Gives us options. Good signing

stepunmytoe


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:21 pm EST

Hayes making the most of this

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:20 pm EST

I'd prefer to keep Moore over Boyle. Not kidding

stepunmytoe


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:20 pm EST

JT having an effect in this game

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:19 pm EST

KIS: I'm hoping he retires after this season.. Solves our cap woes, and creates some much needed room for someone younger..

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:18 pm EST

mf.., not getting on you, you're my main man here. Just not a big fan of cat's who look for trouble. There's enough folks here who mix it up without calling anyone out into the alley. Not to mention there are ladies present also. I found that out the hard way when I said some offensive stuff myself.

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:16 pm EST

boyle becoming a nightmare. mcilrath isnt worse. boyle is slow a handicap defensively and now he doesnt have confidence. he will cost this team BIG

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:14 pm EST

I like the idea of a bottom six of Hayes Hags Miller Moore Lindberg Fast those are 6 responsible fwds you can roll. Just comes down to who clicks with whom

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:13 pm EST

mf no to glencross he wont help and nt fast enough nor rough enough

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:12 pm EST

what happened to RR did somebody hit him with a tranquilizer or did he run out of gas

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:12 pm EST

ez/pa: no worries over here, thank you though.... OAN, any of you internet scouts watching Glencross? If yes, what say you?

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:07 pm EST

IMO Lindberg has looked good

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:07 pm EST

Helmet has got to feel pretty loose after that cut

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:06 pm EST

mf.., mess isn't any different than some of the other "cranky" posters here. Myself being one for example. The individual in question is a habitual offender and THE pre-eminent antagonist on this forum. He's been given lots of rope and I have no doubt he'll return if banned by who-ever is in charge of that department. They must be on break right now btw. It's going to be up to the rest of us to tune out the "tool-ery" going forward.

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:05 pm EST

Uh oh. What if Hayes sticks on that line and 3C opens back up? Miller? Lindberg?

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:05 pm EST

Shaggy got a hair cut, nice play.

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:05 pm EST

Scooooooreeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

heston


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:05 pm EST

GABBY PURPLE ... New hairdo

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:03 pm EST

Well maybe then my TONE would come across more agreeably. Ha. Hey, how about that game?

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:02 pm EST

Any word ion the Kings return.

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:02 pm EST

Practice what you preach ... Take it to off the wall ...

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:00 pm EST

how about trying to say it in another language or how about saying standing upside down

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:57 pm EST

How many different ways do I have to say it

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:57 pm EST

mf sometimes you cant deal with crazy. let it go. thanks anyhow

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:56 pm EST

mess thats a dick move.

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:56 pm EST

barto.., i fancy myself pretty aware of lingo, tool shed has been added to vocab bank.

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:55 pm EST

stevie idk but she seemed to like hungarian kolbas

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:54 pm EST

MF- I get you point you don't like my tone. Get mine: I don't care if you like my tone or not. Complaining about someone tone in the middle of someone else's unbalanced tantrum, while you're begging unsuccessfully for them to stop throwing C-bombs is PICKY. Pick your battles MF because I'm not changing my tone I abide by the terms and conditions and that should be the standard. I actually really dislike your tone too and most of your content but you've never heard me complain about it because you stay within the terms. Be and let be. Get over my tone.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:54 pm EST

Moof do you remember the mash episode where they tell hawkeye he always has to get the last word in ? .. And he says no don't ...

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:54 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJDnJ0vXUgw

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:53 pm EST

PA that's correct. Gotta have a shed over the tool

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:52 pm EST

Meta-Moo-SiLegs: more fibre!

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:51 pm EST

Don't ever change! ;-)

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:51 pm EST

Kis maybe hide the baloney ? ... There's way too much here ... Do Asians like baloney? ... Get your mind off the one track before you answer...

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:49 pm EST

barto.., you got me on this one. So let me get this straight; a tool shed is the male gunt?

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:49 pm EST

sorry mf thats me just being an ass

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:49 pm EST

mf you tight bro

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:47 pm EST

M11: Your opinions are as valid as anyone else's and FWIW I don't give a hoot if you add IMO, or Jmo, or state it as a fact.. Others here jump all over that stuff, it doesn't matter to me.. You're bright enough to realize that the tone on the wall was way past uneasy, but yet you kept going.. What is this a "who is the last to submit contest?" NOPE, it's who's going to man the hell up and realize that this is way beyond acceptable and for the benefit of THE WALL we're gonna cool it..

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:46 pm EST

rabid see you are talking about hidden asses again. haha

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:45 pm EST

obviously the rangers miss naash. not as much space for zucc and brassard. kreider msl line gets 1st pr defense

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:43 pm EST

Gunt is the same as a tool shed for a man, Same difference.

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:40 pm EST

Bulging area found on large older women between the waist and the genital area. Not quite a gut, not quite a cunt... The Gunt. from the urban dictionary - Taken from the Urban Dictionary. Good one step....

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:39 pm EST

stevie you have any other games we can play haha

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:38 pm EST

KIS- I think I do to a great degree and I certainly haven't bit any of the more obvious barbs thrown in the past couple hours. But when I come in here and I'm reading bs insider info on Lindberg who so many of us are excited to be up and playing, I WILL call bs and that is hockey discussion not personal discussion and that's where I leave it.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:37 pm EST

wild don't think I forgot your hiding ass.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:37 pm EST

This game is a snoozefest thank god for the wall

stepunmytoe


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:37 pm EST

be nice to score a goal this game....

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:37 pm EST

you've got a few Stevie!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:35 pm EST

We have a weinner

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:35 pm EST

MF- I'm going to defend my hockey opinions on a hockey discussion board. There's nothing against that in the rules no matter who would rather I 'cease and desist'

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:35 pm EST

mess why not just ignore him after a while. have some banter and if the person develops a know it alll character ignore his entry. ease up all. there is a game on

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:35 pm EST

shunt

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:34 pm EST

Bunt hunt punt runt and last but not least gunt

stepunmytoe


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:33 pm EST

how about aunt, bunt punt. stunt, runt and blunt. see i didnt spell cunt

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:32 pm EST

M11: You were asked repeatedly to "cease and desist" this type of dialogue here.. For whatever reason you had & or have I don't care. The point and THE FACT is that you DID NOT heed the other participants requests.. It's that simple.. Why doesn't matter.. Get it?

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:29 pm EST

I will trade Nash when he goes MSL!

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:29 pm EST

Name 5 four Letter words that end in unt and the one used here is not one of them...

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:28 pm EST

Mf- I call bs on hockey opinions and the pretend insider angle when it comes up. Find a post of mine where I use hate speech or use threats of violence. If I were getting booted for arguing I would be far from the first second or third. It's not about that. The non-hockey death threats, the derogatory language, is obviously so much worse and I think most would agree.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:26 pm EST

OOH THE CANADIEN AMBASSADOR TO IRAN. WHO GIVES A YOU-KNOW-WHAT? (T of S and all ;) and why's his Chinese wife waving?

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:25 pm EST

FINALLY. SOMEONE WITH BALLZ. ADEIU MFIE. HERE'S HOPING YOUR NASH 6-TEAM TRADE BECOMES REALITY SOMEDAY!!!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:24 pm EST

RR: go cool off, and stop typing a certain word which you're going to look back upon and wish you had used another... comprende'?

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:24 pm EST

ok Im out of this garbage. RR crazy but funny

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:23 pm EST

Mess11 you're not innocent in all this none-sense... People here pleaded with both of you to end this crap over and over.. Both of you know this place provides another Wall which is the convenient place to air your laundry away from here.. Any RFC Admin with half an objective sense of reason would kick you out of here too. You earned...

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:21 pm EST

lemme show ya! I am not 60. specially when I get goin'! :) hey Mess, been a while Fuck yourself. Cunt.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:20 pm EST

Those picks are in 2016?

DREW


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:20 pm EST

rabid now you sound like peaked to early rob lowe. How are you gonna fight somebody. didn't you say you were like 60. you must be watching jersey shore reruns.

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:19 pm EST

Just a 3rd ? Seems low. Good pickup by the Wild

stepunmytoe


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:18 pm EST

The Minnesota Wild have made their second trade in as many months, acquiring veteran forward Sean Bergenheim from Florida in exchange for a third-round pick at the 2016 NHL Entry Draft. Minnesota will also receive the Panthers’ seventh-rounder in ’16. Bergenheim, 31, has been on the outs in Florida for a while now — a healthy scratch in each of the last six games — as GM Dale Tallon looked made a trade. While he has been productive (18 points in 39 games, averaging 14:09 TOI), Bergenheim wasn’t in Florida’s future plans as the club looked to move forward with its youth movement, especially at forward. He’ll certainly have more of a role in Minnesota. Bergenheim will replace some of the forward depth lost with Ryan Carter, Matt Cooke and Jason Zucker all sidelined with injury. Bergenheim is in the last of a four-year, $11 million deal (a $2.75M cap hit) signed with Florida in 2011. Per ESPN, the Panthers aren’t retaining any of his salary in this trade. As mentioned above, this is the second deal Wild GM Chuck Fletcher has orchestrated recently. Back in mid-January, he pulled off the season-altering Devan Dubnyk deal, getting the goalie from Arizona for a third-round pick as well.

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:17 pm EST

Bergenheim and a 7th to Minnesota for a 3rd round pick

DREW


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:17 pm EST

Im just showing what it can be like when one poster chooses to focus on another and bust balls. Pleasant, eh?

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:16 pm EST

Did Michaletti just say Bergenheim was traded?

DREW


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:16 pm EST

In the words of the great philosopher, Rodney King "CANT' WE ALL JUST GET ALONG" Real brain surgeon huh....

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:15 pm EST

I don't. we could meet in nyc and find out!!! bring EVERYBODY.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:15 pm EST

Rabid is that a retort from the I know you are but what am i classification. Briliiant response. rump rustler

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:13 pm EST

Way to go, JT

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:13 pm EST

rabid If you fight like JT miller Id kick your ass all over NYC. hahahaha You are a fucking asshole

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:13 pm EST

isn't that what P.A. does?

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:12 pm EST

Glass went to Dartmouth? And Miller drops the gloves?

DREW


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:11 pm EST

Hey rabid if you wanna fuck me maybe you should change the name to Rump Rustler

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:11 pm EST

FIGHT!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:09 pm EST

AND YOUR MOTHER'S CRACK LIKES ATTENTION, MESSIER. YA CUNT.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:08 pm EST

Never thought I would quote that improv Millbury but there is a village in Europe missing its Idiot

PatrickDiv


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:07 pm EST

Eklund isn't getting banned. If he were going to get banned it would have been a while ago. Even if he were banned he'd just come back under a new handle like PA says and FF six months we'll be back here again. We've seen this before. In that case let me share a little advice from my babysitting days: if you guys want a tantrum to stop, you have to ignore the screaming kid. Attention is like crack.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:04 pm EST

Rabid- I have no idea what you are talking about but if you are going to act like a dick with language like that then be gone with you

PatrickDiv


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:04 pm EST

stevie.., bit of an inside joke with KIS. My boy has taken a fancy recently, if you get my drift.

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:04 pm EST

HEY, MAYBE TD WILL RETURN TO INFORM YOUSE! LOLOLOLOLOL! WITH HIM & YORK RECRUITING YOU CAN REBUILD FOREVER!!!!!! YOUR FAVORITE THING!!!! P.S. F.U. MESSIER. CUNT.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:00 pm EST

HES STILL HIDING! PRAYING I GET BANNED EVEN THOUGH IM THE ONE BEGGIN' FOR IT!!!! LOL HAHA. BAN ME CAUSE MESSIER IS A CUNT YOU WONT DO ANYTHING ABOUT!!!! FUCK ALL YA'LL.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:00 pm EST

Pa it's an add when you hit spray sometimes .... And hospo will make some snide search response... He's probably looking now...:

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:59 pm EST

KIS I DIDNT WANNA SAY FUCK YOU. BUT YEAH. F.U. I GOT YORK EARLIER HAHA...

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:58 pm EST

hey rabid you are being the village idiot

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:57 pm EST

stevie.., KIS may hit you up for some more info on that link!

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:55 pm EST

Where's your prediction, Mess? Coming up E-M-P-T-Y-LIKE-MARTY?! HAHAHA... IT AINT PATRICK WEINROCH!!! LOL. SHITBAG.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:55 pm EST

http://www.meetmyasian.com/MobileLanding...... Maybe the wall is suggesting

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:53 pm EST

4.5 years ago, Kari Ramo was traded straight up for our own Cedric Desjardins

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:52 pm EST

Moof less than 6 days left

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:52 pm EST

7;47 was pretty good Kis. gotta give ya that one. Oh. No. 11? Later Dick!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:49 pm EST

Play the "Robbie Williams" Quiz "Let Me Entertain You" Hell is gone and heaven's here There's nothing left for you to fear Shake your arse come over here Now scream I'm a burning effigy Of everything I used to be You're my rock of empathy, my dear So come on let me entertain you Let me entertain you Life's too short for you to die So grab yourself an alibi Heaven knows your mother lied Mon cher Separate your right from wrongs Come and sing a different song The kettle's on so don't be long Mon cher So come on let me entertain you Let me entertain you Look me up in the yellow pages I will be your rock of ages Your see through fads and your crazy phrases yeah Little Bo Peep has lost his sheep He popped a pill and fell asleep The dew is wet but the grass is sweet, my dear Your mind gets burned with the habits you've learned But we're the generation that's got to be heard You're tired of your teachers and your school's a drag You're not going to end up like your mum and dad So come on let me entertain you Let me entertain you Let me entertain you He may be good he may be outta sight But he can't be here so come around tonight Here is the place where the feeling grows You gotta get high before you taste the lows So come on Let me entertain you Let me entertain you So come on let me entertain me Let me entertain you Come on come on come on come on

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:48 pm EST

Rabid go over to craigslist maybe you can buy a clue.

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:47 pm EST

rabid....you are making this wall unreadable, asshole! Bye all

rngrsans


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:47 pm EST

If you know so much know when to quit and take a break.

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:46 pm EST

Clown fish why come here if you get so upset. why do you want to be here if all you wanna do is curse people out. You need 5 min for roughing and a game misconduct. come back another day when you aren't foaming at the mouth

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:43 pm EST

THATS IT, KEEP HIDING IN THE FINAL ROUNDS, CUNTBOY!! THEN WHEN I GET BANNED YOU CAN MAKE ALL THE SNARKY REMARKS YOU WANT. BUT STILL, YOU'LL KNOW NOTHING. AND I'LL KNOW EVERYTHING.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:41 pm EST

NO, FUCK IT ALL KIS. DID YOU STAND AGAINST THEM? NOPE. SO, GO TALK TO THEM.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:40 pm EST

id &#712;rab&#601;d,&#712;r&#257;b&#601;d/ adjective 1. having or proceeding from an extreme or fanatical support of or belief in something. "a rabid feminist" synonyms: extreme, fanatical, overzealous, extremist, maniacal, passionate, fervent, overkeen, diehard, uncompromising, illiberal; More antonyms: moderate 2. (of an animal) affected with rabies. synonyms: rabies-infected, mad, hydrophobic "a rabid dog"

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:40 pm EST

YEAH, YOU TRIED DREW. ANOTHER GOOD EGG. IF PEOPLE DECIDE TO BASICALLY BE TERRORISTS AGAINST ANOTHER POSTER ON A BOARD LIKE THIS, CANT STOP IT IF A MODERATOR ONLY STOPS BY ONCE A DECADE....

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:38 pm EST

what are you doing dude. Like I said when you don't have your jackass moments you bring good news. Just clam down. Its all good. relax bro. i cant stop saying bro bro

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:38 pm EST

CUNT.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:38 pm EST

I don't think anyone is getting banned - I don't think KARA is the admin anymore - I just think this site will just be shutdown. Which is a shame but where this is going nonetheless. I don't have beef with anyone including Rabid so I hope this place stays but I doubt it lasts. Rabid / don't get banned over a disagreement.

DREW


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:37 pm EST

UH YOURSELF BOB. was that you sitting around, thumb up your ass during Kitty Genovese? Prolly. Later. Youre a good dude. I cant expect everyone to devote their energy with this. but it aint right and I don't stand for it. sry. Later Hospo, MFie. Miss You!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:37 pm EST

Nash has neck spasms, misses last practice, I hope that's what it is, would not be good to have him out for a bit.

barto


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:37 pm EST

hospo are ou the crying indian yet? hahaha clownfish you lost it bro

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:36 pm EST

Is the ice cream melting down ? ... Wish some would say how they really feel .... Lol...

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:36 pm EST

Diaz dressed for this one

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:35 pm EST

BYE KIS. I STILL HAD HOPES FOR US ;)

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:35 pm EST

Polis.., thats the deal with me, I ain't here to act up. You were lucky to get a second shot. Take your jabs now while you can. Hell, I even bought your deal the second go around for a bit but you're goin' out the same way you exited the first run. Pretty sure all the good folks here will be plenty aware when you attempt the tri-fecta. Don't let the door hit ya!

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:35 pm EST

Boy.....this place. Ugh.

Bob


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:34 pm EST

OH, ONE LAST ONE! fuck you RFC! where the fuck are the administrators when these smelly snatches are pulling this shit? THATS THE KIND OF PLACE YOU ENDORSE? YOU GOT IT. AND CHANGE THE LUNDQVIST PIC ON THE HOME PAGE ALREADY. SAME FUCKIN' THINGS BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 7 YEARS.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:33 pm EST

Hey RABId Hey rabid you ok Hey Rabid

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:32 pm EST

Rabid tell us why is Nash out. does he have flu like symptoms or did he take a shot from Bogosian and he is feeling concussion like symptoms

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:32 pm EST

Is it a full moon out? Was the wall just mooned? ... That's my Half-assed attempt at humor ... Not to be confused with good humor. That's ice cream.... Fudgy wudgy...

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:31 pm EST

Rabid you are showing your name. WTF is wrong with you? Clown fish, just calm down. you are going ballistic

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:31 pm EST

ANYTIME YOU BOYS WOULD LIKE TO MEET, POST IT UP! ILL BE THERE!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:29 pm EST

and Ill be back PA!!! Count on it!!! FUCK YOU MESSIER!!!!! CUNT!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:29 pm EST

pa the ghost! what happened to our summer love? You know, if you were banned, no one would notice a thing different!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:28 pm EST

Safe to say that it's time for Polis to be excused permanently. Too much drama with this cat. Administrator please get rid of this "individual" for good this time!

pa.rangersfan


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:26 pm EST

Before Im escorted out LOL.... tell us the pending deal, Messier? Tell us?!!! Youre the big expert LOLhahahah . Adios my few amigos!!! Hope youre happy with clueless amateur cocksuckers like Mess.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:24 pm EST

haha, Kreider's big butt! Go FUG Yourself Messier!! :) Your mother's a whore! LOL.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:23 pm EST

There he is! OSCAR!!! Fuck you MESSIER! Oscar!!!!! FUCK YOU MESSIER!!!1 hahahaha....

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:22 pm EST

some people can control themselves - and should DIE!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:21 pm EST

ooop, 26 just couldn't quite handle the pass there. Eh, who needs odd-man rushes?

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:20 pm EST

ADMIN needs to enforce the language/threats of violence. Everything else will follow suit. Some people can't control themselves and will be booted.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:18 pm EST

Cmon marty! This is your kinda team! LOL hahaha..... analysis. The Expert is on the ice!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:18 pm EST

Why don't you all shut up and just talk about hockey....freaking babies. This wall is supposed to be fun to read and communicate and all it is now is ridiculously annoying

rngrsans


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:15 pm EST

Yaah, Rabid....I didn't bother going out of my way to admonish your partner in crime recently right? You live in your own little world where you're the innocent, injured party. He snipes you, you snipe him and on and on and on and we're all sick of it. And BTW, with all the BS flaming the 2 of you have done, to snipe him and the say "oh I hope you can take a joke" is YELLA....and that's what started this sh!it all over again starting from yesterday. Neither one of you has the maturity to stop it....the last word is all either of you want and The Wall be damned. So yeah....whatever. Enjoy the game and the upcoming clever banter everyone.

JFC31


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:14 pm EST

Eklund you talk the most trash in RFC history, make York and Ferocious Monk seem like WIOSA by comparison. But you know what, no one has ever cried foul more either. Setting a new standard for whining. Enough. LGR.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:13 pm EST

OH, JT! I've had it Drew. for real. I don't need this.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:12 pm EST

there goes meelymouth cuntbag. where you at Mess? I prefer to handle things DIRECTLY. we already know you don't put your MONEY where that punk mouth is.LOL. YA CUNT.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:11 pm EST

Rabid - what set you off, brother? I saw some disagreement but you got worked up beyond normal.

DREW


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:10 pm EST

Not whatever. Wrong. and YELLA!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:10 pm EST

Seriously JFC, if you're capable of original thought, why don't you weigh in ON THE ACTUAL DISCUSSION instead of on the disagreement. Prove me wrong, that you're not just here for the drama. You know, it being a DISCUSSION BOARD and all.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:09 pm EST

RR -- whatever

JFC31


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:04 pm EST

and before I do get banned, LOL, Fuck you YORK (who didn't do anything! hahaha LOL. Not today) . Just incase I am unable to post LOL hahaha..... you people also have NO sense of HUMOR! Stevie does.....

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:02 pm EST

who you talkin to JFC? Just ONCE? Just once call THEM out by name and don't group me in with this CRAP. I write something hallway thoughtful (I thought) to Hospo and these guys are SPAMMING my posts with their Eklund crap. take a stand now or you're yella! That or theyre gonna have to ban me because I am ready to fuck some people up. CUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sry MF. But you don't say shit either. Enough's enough.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:59 pm EST

Just callin' it as I see....I and everyone else on The Wall who has asked you to cut the crap. Exacerbate???LOL! Look up the definition....am I causing you to snipe more after I "quip"?? The 2 of you need no help at all and that's the problem. Take a hint! We're all sick of reading it.

JFC31


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:57 pm EST

he deserved that much more than you Wild LOL. But youre no angel. neither am I for that matter. Game time, snarksters. Goodbye.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:55 pm EST

more delusions of grandeur

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:52 pm EST

Eklund btw, penetrated the hind quarters of the two mangy animals Wild & Mess call mothers. Months later, out they came. To enhance the world!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:51 pm EST

hahaha is right

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:50 pm EST

Jeezuz guys, is it that time again? Enjoy the game...

Hospo


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:49 pm EST

Listen, you boys can run over to nhl.com & bring back some stats for YOUR analysis. People I dealt with today actually KNOW what's going on. Wish they could say more, but Ill tell ya this. they got a deal done if they want it. you'll never know, and unfortunately the few friends I have here I cant share with because this is where we communicate and I don't want you to have it hahaha......Im sure you'll tell them though Mess.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:49 pm EST

so where exactly is Lindberg headed? To the third line. (a source)

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:48 pm EST

I wonder if Moore would have signed his contract if he knew who his wingers would end up being.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:47 pm EST

actually its the pastime of the 3rd man in! LOL

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:46 pm EST

whats your quip for the person who waits to third-in and exacerbate? seems like your preferred pastime

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:44 pm EST

stevie- I guess theres that way also.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:43 pm EST

American Sniper....we've got our own version here on The Wall each and every day.

JFC31


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:43 pm EST

count me out on stewart also. Too much inconsistency for that kind of money. Kassian, maybe

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:41 pm EST

So, to note in Rangers' lineup: Hayes in Nash's spot on top line. Lindberg centering third line for Hayes. Hunwick in, JMoore out. AGrossRecord #NYR: Hayes-Brass-Zucc Kreider-Stepan-St. Louis Hagelin-Lindberg-Miller Glass-DMoore-Stempniak; McDonagh-Girardi Staal-Klein Hunwick-Boyle

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:41 pm EST

so there goes that theory. I too hope Moore shifts to wing and Lindberg gets a shot at C. Move Stempniak up to second (sucks, I know but at least he can snipe) and leave third line alone.

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:41 pm EST

Bob: it's hard to really evaluate guys who KNOW they are being shopped and play on a shit team to boot. I mean how hard do guys really play for and put themselves out there for a team that has said "your not part of our future plans"

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:39 pm EST

Rabid. Your making something out of nothing. Lindberg is best F to call up. So they need a F called up and since they call up the best guy available it's for some larger deeper more secret purpose. LOL. You may not be Eklund, but you could relate him.

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:38 pm EST

If Chris Stewart was showcasing his skills for the Rangers the other night, they should stay very far away.

Bob


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:36 pm EST

nash out, neck spasms.....

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:35 pm EST

The Eklund du jour

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:24 pm EST

Ummm....IDK. Ill wait for Wild to tell me what to think? LOL

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:20 pm EST

what do you think of the subway as a hole?....pretty deep subject huh?

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:11 pm EST

That's your crowd that doesn't read into things too deeply, Wild.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:11 pm EST

crystal ball says they are showcasing limburger cheese .....must be kept under glass....that's how rumors start.....

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:08 pm EST

Rabid: Fishy? He's the best available call up at F and there are sick players. No illness no call up. They haven't had months due to the cap. Your reading into things far too much.

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 5:59 pm EST

Mixed feelings, Hospo. You know I screamed for Lindberg here all year; makes me think it's fishy when he finally shows up, clock ticking. BUT, depends what theyre adding; if its a Santorelli-type and a Dman really is uptmost to them, maybe ok (I disagree) you could in theory get as much from Oscar as Horcroft. But the Vermette/Hanzal/Staal kickass big move might not be there (I definitely think it is and Sather's a cheap ole bastardo. But here's the other little bit that came to me. They feel very good about guys from Callahan thru Kreider who came up and gave them a boost down the stretch, etc. Now I love Lindberg, I still doubt its just finally his big shot. I'd heard some things previously I wasn't happy about, maybe him not being so happy. 5 days out, a big story comes out and says 3 u/a's not named Lindberg, I have to think otherwise. BUT, would it work? Ill tell ya this; as a collection of younger guys, good speed, size talent, the 3rd-4th line with Hagelin, Hayes, Lindberg, Fast, Miller, is a pretty good looking, interesting group. NO ONE could say with any accuracy right now, what, as a group, they could accomplish. But would I prefer to subtract maybe one of them, and have Vermette in there? Yeah, think so. You know I don't think they should take any chances. And if is the experiment, what the hell took so long? They've had months!

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 5:55 pm EST

Seating chart for tonight's game includes Sabres, Sens, Coyotes, 'Hawks, Wings, Stars, Wild, Jackets, Panthers, Avs, Habs, TB, Leafs and Blues

Hospo


Tue Feb 24 2015 5:43 pm EST

Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord If Oscar Lindberg does make his NHL debut tonight, he will become the first player in Rangers' history to wear uniform number 48.

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 5:26 pm EST

Rhet -thanks for that HL article...OLA, you should check it out, it covers Lundqvist's " "injury" " pretty well, if it's accurate in diagnosis (that's my quotes around yours).

LeoS


Tue Feb 24 2015 5:15 pm EST

Ranger47 _ I know we're a good team..probably can win the East regular season...But not convinced the same team can survive the POs..So, with all we have, why not bolster and improve it as much as you can (and the CAP allows) to be ready for all opponents???

Hospo


Tue Feb 24 2015 5:11 pm EST

Ranger47 - I know, been saying that..All that is after the Deadline..and it's not like baseball where you can still make deals to help your team

Hospo


Tue Feb 24 2015 5:10 pm EST

And not to sound negative, but although we may be 3 points from #1 in the conference, if we go on a long losing streak it is not impossible for those in #9 (Florida) or #10 (Philly) to get hot and go on a run to make up the 14 or 15 points in the 24 remaining games to knock us out of the POs - especially with all the 3 point game possibilities in the NHL. Highly unlikely - but to bolster Hospo's point we may need help even BEFORE the POs. If nothing else, help in getting as high up in the conference standings to maintain home ice advantage....

Ranger47


Tue Feb 24 2015 4:48 pm EST

Hospo: Actually March will be a real test for us since we have to face the Nash, Detroit, Chi (twice), Isles, Caps (twice), ANA, FLA Kings and Briuns. WIll need the King back and ready and the D tightened up significantly!

Ranger47


Tue Feb 24 2015 4:39 pm EST

RABID - Can see it also,,but don't agree in the slightest..Actually, it sickens me becasue this is the year to go for it (OK, if the King is healthy)...They have been and will be playing until the Deadline everybody from The Good Sisters of the Poor..Of course they look decent...well, somewhat.....mark my words, gonna be totally different in the POs for this juggernaut 3rd line and a reason for this team going home early come APril...........

Hospo


Tue Feb 24 2015 4:37 pm EST

Rabid:fairly sure they wanted to save the cap space for possible deadline moves more than they wanted to experiment with Lindberg.

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 4:21 pm EST

Word is Dman no. 1 on wishlist. Hayes gas been splitting draws with Miller. They may want to see how Lindberg handles them. He was around 68% on Dzone draws. Miller could back up to 4th wing, Glass out. Sounds idk, something they shouldve tried much earlier. Cant say I agree with it as a deadline/PO strategy, but thats what im getting...

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 4:17 pm EST

HOSPO: Add to that, he is leaping to the conclusion that it a WING and not a CENTER that will be sitting out tonight.

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 4:14 pm EST

Is this LEONARD guy and idiot? "Either he or Hayes will have to play wing"...I know it was long, long ago..like last year But DOM MOORE is quite capable of playign wing and has often done so...And I think it's smarter to move the vet over if it's for one game

Hospo


Tue Feb 24 2015 4:11 pm EST

Now its official, wonder who is out

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 4:11 pm EST

From the Rangers ---OFFICIAL: #NYR have recalled forward Oscar Lindberg from the WolfPackAHL. In 54GP Lindberg has 16-20-36 and is a +5..Good year for the kid

Hospo


Tue Feb 24 2015 4:08 pm EST

Hopefully not in advance of a trade. I'd like to see a 4th of Moore/Lindberg/Fast. Scratch glass and stempniak

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 3:36 pm EST

Oscar, Oscar, Oscar ................

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 3:23 pm EST

Report: Erik Cole on Bruins' shopping list in advance of trade deadline..... http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/707029

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 3:14 pm EST

There is also this. I THINK 5pm eastern is the start of the new NHL "day". Meaning a player called before that time counts for an entire separate day. So in the case that they need him but don't fall under the emergency call up rule they would wait until after that threshold to help with cap issues.

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:57 pm EST

Rhet: From what I read that is correct, in fact there can't be a "extra" well, unless its an extra D or extra G and a forward is recalled.

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:52 pm EST

HOSPO.... I believe he's going to be an emergency call-up, so he has to play.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:51 pm EST

"goon" = "go on"

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:48 pm EST

Rhet: I think, and have little to goon other than guessing, that he is in fact on his way to NYC, however they can't officially call him up until they enter the "emergency" status, and that means the players need to be officially ruled out, and I imagine if there are a few players sick that they want to wait until the last moment to decide who is out. If everyone feel better, perhaps he doesn't get "officially" called up.

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:46 pm EST

Good for LINDBERGER, he's earned it..best forward down there...even if it's just to practice..But hey, even if all the centers are OK, Moore can slide over to W for whoever has it...and Lindberger gets his shot...

Hospo


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:38 pm EST

WILD.... I've always found the Swedish press to be right on the money.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:38 pm EST

Nothing in the twitter universe about the call-up....

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:36 pm EST

Will Lindberger dress? I hope so - I wanna see if he's for real. If so, what a plus that would be.

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:33 pm EST

stepunmytoe: No one has been ruled out, and no one stateside has confirmed the call up as of yet. Rabid: I don't think one has anything to do with the other...I would bet a center is out.

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:30 pm EST

Lindberg FINALLY recalled 5 days before deadline, and same time theyre complsining via Burnside/espn about prices on vermette & sekera? Must be one of those co-rinkydinks.

Rabid Ranger


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:23 pm EST

Have any centers been ruled out tonight ?

stepunmytoe


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:05 pm EST

RinkRat.... I think it's purely due to some players suffering from the flu, but he could be the answer to some of what ails us. No Pressure.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:03 pm EST

Interesting breakdown of Hank's injury..... http://undisclosedinjury.blogspot.com/2015/02/henrik-lundqvist-internal-carotid.html?spref=tw

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 2:01 pm EST

Now is the call-up because he is being showcased, Rangers upgrading from Stemp and/or Glass or because of the flu?

RinkRat


Tue Feb 24 2015 1:52 pm EST

Oscar Lindberg uppkallad av New York Rangers. Äntligen kommer NHL-chansen för världsmästaren.

RF73


Tue Feb 24 2015 1:52 pm EST

WILD.... The Swedes had if first.... Per Norrans Hockeyblogg.... Oscar Lindberg får äntligen sig chans i NHL. Uppkallad av NY Rangers

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 1:49 pm EST

https://twitter.com/UffeBodin/status/570289186902806528

ges999


Tue Feb 24 2015 1:48 pm EST

Rhet: I haven't seen that....how dod you hear that?

Wildcard


Tue Feb 24 2015 1:41 pm EST

Rangers have called up Oscar Lindberg..... WOO HOO!

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 1:35 pm EST

The Rangers already have a player like Wis - Dan Boyle. More dregs from which not to choose IMO.

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 1:33 pm EST

Per ESPN chat.... Scott Burnside.... In regard to Wisniewski.... CBJ; He's got $8 million owed over the next two years after this year with a cap hit of $5.5 million. I can tell you some folks who watch Wiz closely keep two columns for his play. One column for Norris play the other for 'buyout' play.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 1:05 pm EST

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/tag/_/name/lebruns-rumblings-02-24-2015

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 12:58 pm EST

The Rangers are keeping tabs on Antoine Vermette and Andrej Sekera but it’s unlikely that the Rangers can “get into the bidding” on either player unless the price drops. (ESPN)

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 12:57 pm EST

Bob McKenzie.... LAK have signed Jordan Nolan to a three-year contract extension with an AAV of $950K.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 12:51 pm EST

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/34721/rumblings-rangers-keep-eye-on-andrej-sekera-antoine-vermette

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 12:27 pm EST

Rhet: So did Boychuk's.....

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 12:12 pm EST

Derek Stepan's price tag just went up.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 12:09 pm EST

Nick Leddy signs 7-Year extension with ISLES worth $38.5 million, $5.5 AAV.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:55 am EST

Steve Zipay..... AV not certain about lineup, some "flu-like" symptoms around...But Fast still out for a few more days.... Saw Girardi in the corridor, he's not dealing with flu-like symptoms and Stepan was in the room, so... AV's quote on lineup was "A few balls in the air...", so apparently not just one player possibly affected

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:50 am EST

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/blogs/puck-rakers/2015/02/jackets-seeking-to-trade-wisniewski.html

puckyou


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:20 am EST

The Rangers on the ice this morning at the morning skate were Derick Brassard, Chris Kreider, Marty ST. Louis, Lee Stempniak. Jesper Fast, John Moore and Mackenzie Skapski. (Steve Zipay)

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 11:14 am EST

Hospo: maybe Ray Whitney's available... ;->

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:51 am EST

He needed to fart.

RF73


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:50 am EST

Steve Zipay..... Brassard, who was shooting alone at empty net, has left the rest of the skaters on the other end of the rink

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:37 am EST

HUGE TRADE....The NHLDucks have acquired left wing Jiri Sekac from the @CanadiensMTL in exchange for right wing Devante Smith-Pelly... The floodgates are sure to open now.

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:35 am EST

STEVIE - Thanks for that article/link..To me, having MILLER take the draws in the d-zone and Hayes other times is only a bandaid....Personally, I think the liine will get schooled in the POs and not just FOs...Sather wants to win tight physical PO series where mistakes are key with that as his 3rd line?..Good freaking luck...But hey, next year is more important...JMWO..

Hospo


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:30 am EST

Pat Leonard..... Lundqvist taking shots as Talbot

Rhet0ric


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:17 am EST

Its the top of the season for 3 team trades. ;-)

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:15 am EST

CBJ'S "Le Testube" was out 5-6 weeks Oct.-Nov. For abdominal surgery.. He's scored 4? Points since returning.. Cap $1.25 mill.. I'm wondering if the Leafs have an interest in him in an attempt to get Bozak.. Also, does Jordan Leopold have anything left in the tank? Thanks

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 10:01 am EST

RFC Admin: Thank you for the Trade Deadline clock.....

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:57 am EST

ges: Yeah, love that video. Karlsson isn't exactly McI but he's not a pipsqueak either. Jitters sees him coming, lowers his shoulder and initiates contact as Karlsson is attempting to lower the boom. The results are both impressive and amusing.

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:54 am EST

RF: it sure does. Miller seems to have a little "junkyard dog" in his DNA.. I don't want to lose this kid, he worked hard to make it this far. He's a warrior..

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:52 am EST

The hit MF was referring to.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhev-4HH_kE

ges999


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:48 am EST

mf: Yes I recall that play and that's exactly the ability I'm referring to. How many other Rangers can and do do that? Maybe Kreider but his technique is different in that he tends to chase down people and hit them. Miller seems to be in the mold of a more traditional up and down winger who can bulldoze people over (if that makes sense).

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:46 am EST

Karlsson had come toward the boards to lay the heavy on JT Miller.. Karlsson took the worst of it, JT bulldozed him...

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:26 am EST

puck: Thanks for the link. Dunno who the author is but he's written a solid article IMO and while he makes points many of us have replicated in here, the way he strings everything together has resulted in a strong argument supporting Miller. What I particularly have noticed about him (and I recall TD making such claims when he watched Miller on the Pack) is his combination of being solid on his skates and a bigger body than perhaps he gets credit for because there have been several instances since he landed on that 3rd line of him running opposing players over, sometimes initiated by him and sometimes by the opposition. That attribute alone should make Sather think twice about moving Miller - it's definitely in short supply on this Ranger club.

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:18 am EST

http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2015/2/24/8099299/nhl-trade-rumors-dont-throw-away-j-t-miller

puckyou


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:16 am EST

BTW, when Quickie returns I gotta figure it'll be Stempnicrap and Glass who will be sharing the pressbox.

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:15 am EST

Vic: What AV has done is a little more sophisticated than that (unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying): He has one player taking all FOs from the left circle and the other from the right (Hayes/Miller).

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:13 am EST

Vic: I agree but with one caveat: Most of the stars of the 70s (or any decade) would be stars in any subsequent decade because they would benefit from everything the players in more recent decades enjoy (training, techniques, equipment, etc). To put it another way: Bobby Orr would be just as dominant now because he'd have better equipment, training and most importantly with the advances in the area of sports injuries and medical procedures, he'd be playing with 2 good knees. That's what gets lost when experts make the claims you just did. Of course if you're comparing purely as is, it's correct. And let me add this: If you could swap a team from now with one 20 to 40 years ago, what would happen is the other teams would see how the swapped team is winning and many would quickly adopt the same practices. Of course results of that wouldn't be felt immediately, but inevitably, the more talented teams would emerge. JFFT...

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:04 am EST

And, as for the 3rd line I'm surprised it has taken this long for the media to see what AV is doing. We have been suggesting it since MILLER was first brought back up and AV has been doing it almost from the second that HAYES and MILLER were put together after FAST's injury. The numbers also show it. I have a pet project going that I hope to complete later this week. I am trying to pull the faceoff numbers of the Rangers 4 lines together and show the month by month breakdown. I just haven't had time to complete it yet.

Vic


Tue Feb 24 2015 9:00 am EST

STEVIE: A few replies. First, yes the game is MUCH faster and much more skilled then it was 35 years ago. A few weeks ago the NHL network showed game 7 of the Canadiens vs. Bruins series in the Cup semi-finals of 1979. It was shocking to me because I haven't watched old games in a very long time. The game was so SLOW and plodding. And most shocking of all was the goaltending. I had forgotten how goaltenders used to play. Lets just say TALBOT would be a Hall of Famer if you put him in a time machine. I know it is true in other sports as well but the game has changed so much. The players are bigger, stronger, faster, quicker and yes more skilled now. The training and conditioning today is unreal. Back in the 70s the training took place in a bar after the game. There were no game day skates. There were few practices like we have today. There were no conditioning programs. There were no strength training programs. Power skating wasn't even a philosophy back then. I know this will cause a lot of heads to explode but this Ranger team would have destroyed any team of the 70s in a series. I doubt the 70s team would even get a game off them. Go ahead a put together an all-star team from the 70s (pre GRETZKY) and this Ranger team would still destroy them. Give them all the same modern equipment the Rangers have and have them play by the rules of the game today and it would be a joke. I know folks will say that the 70s team would be much more physical but I doubt they could even catch the Rangers to hit them. The Rangers would be skating circles around guys like ROBINSON, LAPOINTE, PARK and even ORR. ESPO would be spun around like a turnstile watching guys go back and forth up and down the ice. By the time he got his fat ass to the Rangers slot the Rangers would be scoring on his goal 200 feet away.

Vic


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:54 am EST

I've seen bits and pieces of several Flame games this year and I'm to predict that if the Rangers pull the stuff they've been pulling lately (which is play, at the most, 2 periods of hockey) they are facing a loss tonight. The Flames are a hard working, tenacious team with some skill and a lot of heart.

RF4L


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:26 am EST

moof ...keep your eye on the bouncing ball....NHL TRADE DEADLINE COUNTDOWN: 6 days, 6 hours, 34 minutes and 29 seconds

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 8:14 am EST

http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2015/02/24/rangers-prospect-report-feb-16-22/#sthash.ey3kG0GC.dpbs

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:56 am EST

I still don't get it....why not play your top 2 lines straight on the pp and add a forward like jitters or hayes if only 1 d man ..otherwise straight 5 man units...if they can play 5-5 and score, they should be able to play 5-4 and score more......rocket science chemistry.....reinventing the wheel and calling it coaching......then bring out the 4th line when the pp is over......to defend.....

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:50 am EST

"..Nash, Stepan and Derick Brassard should join Boyle and St. Louis on the top unit now with Ryan McDonagh and Mats Zuccarello sliding to a second unit that also includes Dan Girardi, Chris Kreider and J.T. Miller. The Rangers power play is 0 for 13 over the last five games. "

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 7:09 am EST

"....One of the Rangers’ needs at the trade deadline remains a depth forward who can take face-offs, but Vigneault may have found a way to address this deficiency somewhat with the players already on his roster. The coach recently has started splitting his third-line face-offs between center Kevin Hayes and right wing J.T. Miller. Hayes takes all the face-offs on the left side of the ice, on his backhand. And Miller takes all of the face-offs on the right side of the ice, on his forehand. Vigneault said knowing both players’ strengths has enabled him to use that third line more often on defensive zone starts. “It helps me use that line in our zone,” he said. “JT’s very strong on that right side, and Kevin is improving, working on that aspect of his game. So whereas probably a month ago, two months ago I was very rarely using those guys on face-offs in our zone, now I feel more confident. Win or lose, they’ve got a better sense of what they need to do.” ....http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/rangers/practice-report-vigneault-won-rule-deadline-moves-blog-entry-1.2126618

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:59 am EST

"...Thankfully, Scotty Bowman had the wisdom to see his potential. If he was on a different team with a different coach who did not appreciate that kind of unique skill, Datsyuk might have been out of the league. He would be playing in the KHL tonight. In Russia right now, there are four or five Datsyuks playing in the KHL who never got their chance. Sergei Mozyakin led the KHL in scoring last season and was in the scoring race for most of his 20s. But he’s 33 now and nobody in America has ever heard of him. Why? Most North American coaches don’t have the patience for his style of play. I roll my eyes whenever I hear people talk about how fast the game is now and how sophisticated the systems have become. Watching the game, does it really seem much faster? Does it really seem more advanced? We had a saying in the Soviet days that I wish more coaches and scouts would adopt today: It’s not how fast you skate, it’s how fast you think. Everyone in America should be proud of Team USA’s incredible upset on the 35th anniversary of Lake Placid. I certainly have come to appreciate it a little more now as a long-time resident of the U.S. But hockey fans should also remember the legacy of the Soviet teams of that era. In a strange way, the flashes of brilliance you see from Toews, Kane and Crosby are a product of Soviet creativity and freedom on the ice. "

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 6:25 am EST

. Matt Nichol @M_Nichol http://www.theplayerstribune.com/miracle-on-ice-hockey-russia/ … Anyone involved in training/coaching hockey players at any level MUST read this article by the great @Igor_Larionov ...http://www.theplayerstribune.com/miracle-on-ice-hockey-russia/

stevielegs


Tue Feb 24 2015 1:58 am EST

Mr you are thinking about the hockey rodent. The guy had a squirrel and a countdown clock. He had good reads

KIS


Tue Feb 24 2015 1:54 am EST

Chicago is another team rumored to be looking at Sekera .... http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/25079010/blackhawks-d-johnny-oduya-out-couple-of-weeks-with-injury

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 12:51 am EST

On Monday, Vigneault moved Martin St. Louis and Dan Boyle back to the top unit, where they worked without Rick Nash, who was given the day off. “In any given season you’re going to have … segments in that season when some guys are performing a little bit better than others,” Vigneault said. “That’s what’s happened, so we made those changes. Now we’ve got some other guys performing better and we’re trying to see if there’s chemistry.” http://nypost.com/2015/02/23/rangers-first-in-long-line-of-goals-check-mark-by-our-name/

Messier11


Tue Feb 24 2015 12:20 am EST

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/outposts/post/italian-catches-huge-wels-catfish-record/

mf


Tue Feb 24 2015 12:08 am EST

six day, 15 hours until the trade deadline....... wasn't there a deadline clock on here last year ?

mf


Mon Feb 23 2015 11:23 pm EST

Not sure just what all those scouts got to see, watching a team lose 3-0 to Jersey

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:54 pm EST

Hanzal failed his physical - enroute to NY.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:52 pm EST

Mess11, RR: Please keep the jousting dialogue off this Wall..

mf


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:51 pm EST

Height of absurdity.... Is that where on the same night as MSL scores 2 plus a SO goal in a SO win and named first star, someone posts how he's dragging the team down, keeping teammates from producing? Okay...

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:48 pm EST

Well when you've got 1.2 mil cap room and you're looking for an upgrade on your #6 I hate to break it to you but the answer probably isn't going to be Keith Yandle. That's just the reality of the situation that armchair fantasy GMs and message board rumor mongers can't be bothered with. That's why we're talking about Sheppard or Winnik or Letestu and why Vermette or Hanzal were never options outside of Eklund- ville. You might want to start looking at other teams' 5-7 D bc that's where Moore's likeliest replacement is coming from and why Wiercioch, if available, is likely to be moved.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:41 pm EST

Eklund- can't take a little joke? Even your gentleman is here for you.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:39 pm EST

Usually it's on the teams that aren't contenders that young players tend to struggle. Kids a year younger than Moore but in the lineup and getting regular minutes. Posted 29 points last season that's about double Moores output last season when Moore was doing well.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:38 pm EST

Hows about Frick & FuckFace? That was 3-4 times I at least TRIED to establish any kind of repore, and the very last. So anyone who wants to say anything to me specifically on behavior, think twice before you do. This hockey NOVICE thinks hes going to nitpick what I say - and nothing else but be a hostile prick? The very height of absurdity. Dont think so boys. And he cant figure why no one else thinks Weiroch is a good idea (the head shakes).

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:36 pm EST

Another Ottawa LHS Cowen just suspended three games for illegal hit to head, so if Wiercioch is being shopped, I suppose he'll be getting the lion's share of the minutes

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:23 pm EST

KOVALEV!: http://www.dirtydangle.com/2015/02/alex-kovalevs-shinny-shift.html?m=1

THE Kreider


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:22 pm EST

Frick and Frack...lol...good one JFC...

RF4L


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:18 pm EST

Rhet: Ahmen brother. BTW, not really surprised to hear there's no much interest in Patrick Wiercioch - he's struggling to stay in Ottawa's lineup and they aren't exactly a cup contender, this despite his young age and big body. He's a $2,000,000 cap hit, too. I think I'd rather stay the course with J Moore...

RF4L


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:13 pm EST

26 scouts watching AZ-NJ. 26. If that aint a firesale.. Kreider, IDK who told you posting any facetious trades this time of year was funny. Its not.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:07 pm EST

EKLUND reporting that the Rangers are finalizing a deal for JAGR ... going the other way will be MILLER, DUCLAIR, and a 2nd.

THE Kreider


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:38 pm EST

Hospo, reread your post, then check out that youtube... you can't make this sh_te up...

mf


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:36 pm EST

Rhet: allow me to help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6OdV85hJr4

mf


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:36 pm EST

RHET - By the way, the third Olympian with 1000 NHL games was Dave "Sister " Christian...I absolutley forgot about the guy!,.out.....

Hospo


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:33 pm EST

The Frick & Frack Wall Attack XXI

JFC31


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:16 pm EST

ENOUGH!!! YOU GUYS JUST NEED TO STOP. YOU'VE MADE THE WALL UNREADABLE FOR DAYS. Grow up and just ignore each other.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:14 pm EST

Saw that Rhet. Id swap him out for Boyle as nyday but it wont happen. Good point shot & plays with edge. Itll never happen. Shocked Messier cant take even a tiny joke. What a miserable human being.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:12 pm EST

MF... Too bad we couldn't bury Boyle in the AHL :) What an upgrade WIZ would be.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:10 pm EST

Rhet: Tell em we'll take him, they just need to take Boyle & Glass in return..... http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?2291

mf


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:01 pm EST

Aaron Portzline.... Heard from two different sources tonight that #CBJ are shopping D James Wisniewski around the #NHL, trying to move before Monday's deadline.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 8:51 pm EST

Eklund the problem is that for every joke you make, I have to be able to take two: 1) your post and 2) you

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 8:35 pm EST

Boston in a bit of a jam with Krejci out, boo hoo... HockeyBuzz is showing them with $2mill in cap room but I wouldn't bank on that figure.... Naturally Vermette & Bozak come to mind, but after a look at their situation for next year, they just might have to go with "the rental." ... They have 8 forwards, 2 Dmen, and 1 goalie under contract for next year consuming $51.2 million, which leaves 9 spots to fill with $18mill if the cap stays the same.... I'd rather face them in the first round than the Isles or Montreal

mf


Mon Feb 23 2015 8:33 pm EST

On Weiroch; You mean not one NHL GM agrees with what you think, Messier? haha..... I can't believe it! lol..... Lets see if you can take a joke (Im not hopeful)

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 8:21 pm EST

Mess... Probably because Wiercioch has next season remaining on his deal at $2.7 mil and most teams aren't willing to take back much in the way of payroll (past this season). His cap hit is only $2.2 Mil so he may be worth a shot if the Rangers think he's an upgrade over our current 6A and 6B.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 8:02 pm EST

not sure why GMs wouldn't be in on Wiercioch. Young, big, skilled, inexpensive, has put up points.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 8:01 pm EST

Botchford on Sestito and Kassian: http://www.theprovince.com/sports/hockey/canucks-hockey/Sestito+decision+brainer+Canucks+have+some/10837037/story.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#__federated=1

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:50 pm EST

Bruce Garrioch..... Patrick Wiercioch will be interesting at the deadline. Led to believe there is little or no interest.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:37 pm EST

Stemmer.... Quite honestly, I would get rid of Glass just because he's a waste of (cap) space. I would take Sestitio for the playoffs just for insurance.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:32 pm EST

What's the story on Sestito, can he play at all, us he better than Tanner Glass. He definitely has size.

Stemmer21


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:19 pm EST

I don't have much confidence in it, but Sestito listed here as released: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/transactions

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:17 pm EST

Wild -/ I did a little searching and according to NHL.com Zucc's TOIA was 16.25. In an article on NHL.commfrom October 2011, Torts said, ""He has certainly taken to heart the things we have asked him to work on," Tortorella said. "His skating has improved. He's certainly playing much better away from the puck. ...I think he has handled himself in the right way in trying to become a better player. It really falls on his shoulders...and he has done that" whole Tortorella notes improvements have been made in so many areas, it's Zuccarello's play in his own end that has impressed him the most". That is what I am remembering in terms of Zucc's play away from the puck being fine after his very first season. I was pissed that Torts would not give him fair treatment...he was developing nicely and Tortsnhad no,patience

JFC31


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:05 pm EST

Sestito was NOT released. The Canucks sent him home and will continue to pay him, but he will never play for the Canucks or Comets(AHL) ever again. The Canucks are also looking to trade him. I think they will be just as happy to pay him not to play for the rest of the season.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:02 pm EST

Hospo. I used the wrong word. Price is correct. I want Vermette also. There was talk of him in Boston before the Krejci injury. Hopefully they score a bunch this week and get gun shy.

stepunmytoe


Mon Feb 23 2015 6:52 pm EST

STEPONMYTOE - His stock has always been high, it's the damn price that's going up! I was hoping the Bruins might grab for lazy ass Stewart.but with Krejci out, they need an all around player...I Like VERMETTE ALOT, would pay for him but a bidding war is not the way I want to go.

Hospo


Mon Feb 23 2015 6:42 pm EST

JFC: it was an interview with him from a Norwegian newspaper translated and reposted by a blog. Also. The Torts spoke often about his play away from the puck being an issue. The season he broke his wrist he played just 10 or so per night. His season post KHL he played 16 or so.

Wildcard


Mon Feb 23 2015 6:39 pm EST

Krejci out 4-6. Vermettes stock is rising !

stepunmytoe


Mon Feb 23 2015 5:57 pm EST

Vancouver releases Tom Sestito

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 5:48 pm EST

It's quite possible that my memory is not putting things in the right order, but honestly I remember Zuccarello's problems with the system mainly occurred during his very first season here....and I don't doubt Torts would have no problem calling him out publicly. But, my recollection is that he came back the 2nd season and his play away from the puck was damn good....and that's whynImwas so,annoyed that he got banished to Hartford after about 25 games. I thought it was unwarranted.

JFC31


Mon Feb 23 2015 5:22 pm EST

Hit send too soon...but I do,agree that Zucc came back from the KHL a much more confident player and in particular, his forechecking became the tenacious style,that we see now. But, I,think he was playing well away from the puck in that season when he broke his wrist.

JFC31


Mon Feb 23 2015 5:06 pm EST

Wild -- not trying to be difficult, but I read a TON of hockey stuff from every possible,source and I honestly don't remember ever reading Zuccarello making those statements. I recall that he was playing in Hartford and when he was called up, played extremely well on the PP in particular and he had well over 15 minutes icetime per game before he broke his wrist. Isn't THAT what sidelined him, not Tortorella? Yes, he got worked in slowly arborist bynTortorella when he came over from Europe, but he was a small, unknown quantity to,Tortorella. I never read Tortorella or Zucc ever talking a bout his lack of smarts away from the puck. What publications/ websites had this stuff?

JFC31


Mon Feb 23 2015 5:06 pm EST

doesn't really matter how bad without the pick MZA ever was. Clearly a better option than Matt Gilroy or Erik Crusher. personnel evaluation was always one of Torts most glaring failures.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 4:54 pm EST

Dont you worry Hospo. Thats just what they put out there. The old down play. think they know if the can add another real good player & some depth it starts to look like a pretty excellent team. Somebody said Hall before. Hmm....

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 4:51 pm EST

ZUCC needed scratched many many times before his KHL season. HE is the one who said it wasnt until th coachs over there got to him that he realized he had been playing poorly with out the puck. And actually said Torts was probably right to not trust him. It's amazing that the player himself could say it....but people will still argue the point.

Wildcard


Mon Feb 23 2015 4:46 pm EST

Everyday I read these reports of "Rangers only willing to do this..."...."Price too high..."Joe Schmoe makes sense as a cheap 4th liner".... yadda yadda.....It's one thing if the CAP prevents moves...but Friggin SATHER is screwing himself and the team out of a CUP if he can do it but he's only only willing to do the Dumpster Dive Disco...Pay up for something good..whether it be a forward (my choice) or D..These depth 4th line black aces ain't gonna get it done.JMWO..

Hospo


Mon Feb 23 2015 4:40 pm EST

McIlrath still 22 but turns 23 in April. They grow up quick

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 4:03 pm EST

RANGERS PROSPECT REPORT -- 2.23.15..... http://www.blueshirtsunited.com/article/rangers-prospect-report-22315

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:59 pm EST

Wild you dont want to go down that road with me. Torts scratched Zuc for MATT GILROY as we couldnt score and lost a PO series vs. Wash. Thats Pete Carrol stupid coaching. McI. If hes showing so much improvement and finally near ready why fo they sound ready to consider moving him? Idk. Definitely a guy I was counting on being here eventually...

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:48 pm EST

Zucc was a mess away from the puck, and even admitted it and said it was something he was forced to work on in the KHL, and he is much improved. last season McIlrath was not good positionally, he NEEDED more AHL time, and everyone saw it. Taking on a big fighter does NOT win games, you need to be able to defend or score from D, McIlrath was capable of neither, and as many have stated, this season he has taken major strides in his game. Cruder was also not always the best at times, had long slumps, I think AVs game suits him better than Torts, but thats the case with most speed guys. But to say Torts was wrong to handle Zucc the way he did...I laugh at that, its such BS, so many fell in love with Zucc so quick, and with reason, he is feisty and hard working, but you can't win in the NHL with forwards who can't play without the puck, thats the same reason BOTH Torts and AV didn't leave Miller in the lineup, he was a mess without the puck, he has also worked on it, and finally started to make better decisions with and without the puck and it has landed him a regular lineup spot. NHL coaches play the guys who play well, every fan base however seems to think this is not the case, every fan base has issues with their coach saying he doesn't play guys who are good, problem is, usually they have some major flaws, and the fans just don't want to see them.

Wildcard


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:38 pm EST

Hey KIS, Id much rather ship AV to Calgary. Said weeks ago, these coaches can make AWFUL calls on guys. Torts with Zuc & CK. Nobody notices but frequently a huge difference when I post what I think theyll do & what Id do. McI took on McGrath last year, I wouldve never taken him out of the lineup. But what do I think theyll do? Like we're saying, what does it look like? Im sure thetez slready a " Hodge" waiting before I hit spray lol.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:32 pm EST

If Mcis included in a trade it better be for somebody like taylor hall. No way do you trade a kid with that skill set and ability for an old man. I know hockey is changing but guess what boys, there is still contact. Its not tennis or ping pong.

KIS


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:30 pm EST

Reports: Price for Rental D-Men Too High for Rangers..... http://rangersunlimited.com/2015/02/23/reports-price-for-rental-d-men-too-high-for-rangers/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:29 pm EST

York, After watching McIlrath play this past weekend against the baby flyers, I can see he has made a ton of progress. Pa/Ez had a huge hard on after the game for the kid. If the Rangers don't win the cup a big part of the problem will be AV. Its great to have speed but this team is becoming very one dimensional. If Boston can win a cup with Chara, why cant the Rangers use and develop Mc? Chara wasn't amazing when he was with the islanders. He was a lot like McIlrath. McIrath has improved greatly since the beginning of the season. I saw him at the beginning of the year against Hershey and I saw him this past weekend against Lehigh Valley. First, his skating has improved a lot. His first pass out of the zone was very good & much improved. Many times he hit the guy in strde and on the tape as opposed to in the feet of his teammate. He was disciplined. 'he didn't get goaded into any fights even though Hextall and a couple others tried to. He will get better at reading the game as he is only 23 yrs old. I still think he reaches too much and sometimes that seems to put him off balance. He definitely has a commanding presence on the ice as people know where he is. That hit you showed, we saw at least 3 or 4 huge hits by the kid this weekend. He has good timing for hits. I think it will be a huge mistake if the Rangers trade the kid. If that kid gets to another team where he is given the chance to play at the NHL level and given support and confidence not only will he be a beast but Ranger fans will very upset. His improvement is measurable and the kid should be here. He can definitely be used in the Ranger organization, if not this year absolutely next year. You find a place for a kid like him.

KIS


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:23 pm EST

Wild, I think it's pretty much what theyre putting out there. They get a price they like, they'll move McIlrath. He played junior in Calgary, Burke wants a team of tanks, and theyve got a big scoring winger we like. To me you've got to get back a 2nd-3rd rounder with Glencross (32) is youre giving up MCI. Another one of those maybe deals, they're tough to stomach; Im sure Ill be seeing Middleton's name here within the hour! Hahaha LOL...I crack myself up ;)

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:12 pm EST

Rabid: I am a huge McIlrath fan, and still would say at the right price he should be traded. But that price needs to be set high. Also, I think part of why he isn't with the team and talked about much is due to his injury, that created development setbacks, and the team wanting him to get in a season at 100% (or as close to it as any player is) and to see how he developed. Add that to the fact there are players ahead of him currently not he roster. I don't see him unseating Giradi right now, and Boyle is a different type of Dman, and Klein is playing very well, they stand in his way at the moment. Camp can change things of course, or an injury could happen on that side and give him a shot. Then you have to add in the cap issues. Calling him up without a player on LTIR would cost too much. Hard to get a real read on what the team thinks of him at this point.

Wildcard


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:10 pm EST

no good partner on the current roster. Ironically, I like the idea of putting him with Moore, one of the few guys with wheels enough to foray offensively but still sprint back if McIlrath needs help. That pairing would be good for third-pair minutes, has both LHS/RHS. But requires moving Boyle and ability to shoot from the point is diminished. Klein, obv, and McD, Staal but not enough shots from point, few with accuracy. Accuracy important bc otherwise it just caroms out of the zone and you set up a rush the other way. Thats why guys like MacInnis and Al Iafrate were so transformational. They had rockets and could shoot on net with real muscle.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:09 pm EST

Darren Dreger..... Nothing new in Lupul trade talks. Some interest, but nothing the Leafs are willing to move on. Status quo, but could heat up later in week.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:06 pm EST

Darren Dreger &#8207;@DarrenDreger........ Majority of NHL clubs at today's Beanpot tourny...Leafs (Nonis) and Oilers (MacTavish) included. Eichel and Hanifin drawing the crowd... BU goalie Matt O'Connor is also attracting interest. 6'5...O'Connor fills a lot of net.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:53 pm EST

actually Sekera would be a perfect partner for McIlrath. We'd have to get rid of Father Time first. Then we'd have no point man. Though Boyle is in 2nd set now ever since he questioned the system LOL. For about the 10th time hahaha...

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:52 pm EST

Kevin McGran....... Lupul: I love being a Maple Leaf, but if I'm not in the plans, I'm not in the plans.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:50 pm EST

KIS, not everybody can see it. They see decent production and figure all is okay. he's had so many7 glorious chances this year, too. It CAN still be okay if St Louis turns in a decent playoff. Just carry your weight. But if he's in funkytown we're @#$%! Next year is next year.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:47 pm EST

Hard not to want to keep McIlrath after watching a hit like that. Hard not believing the coach has other plans when he starts everyone before him. And when he's not mentioned on a list of 3 untouchable prospects in a paper the team owns, in a story where the writer was plainly fed (Zippay had more names attached to the NYR yesterday than Ive seen in years), and it says 'in the right deal' guys like Kristo and others (Im assuming Lindberg as well) are there for the taking, then there's something other than McIlrath's hits at work. Maybe the fact the rest of the D is signed? IDK.....

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:42 pm EST

Klein is with Staal now. Honestly, there is no good partner for a rookie McIlrath. Even if Boyle played off-side, that's no great partner. Really need a safety net at first, and that's tough bc now the whole pairing is about D and can't really take offensive chances.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:41 pm EST

Glass is an addition by subtraction. He is awful. Don't let your eyes deceive you, He makes everyone around him worse. Just look at his WOWY(With Or Without You) stat's for the last 3 seasons .....http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayerwowycharts.php?pid=760&season=2011-14&sit=5v5

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:39 pm EST

Wild if you can't tell the difference between a man and a zone and the benefits the latter has for wrath system wise then tge conversation is moot

York18


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:39 pm EST

York, Tortorella would have McIlrath in the line up, for sure. He also would likely dress Glass. Because both those guys would bring a little "jam".

DREW


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:37 pm EST

Two things come to mind when the words "Tom Foolery" are used. Jeremy Shockey in Tom Coughlin's first year when he lined up at fullback for some plays. Even moreso... Ton Thumb Tom Cushman or Tom Foolery Date women on T.V. with the help of Chuck Woolery Words are flowing out just like the Grand Canyon And I'm always out looking for a female companion! Beastie Boys - Hey Ladies.

DREW


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:31 pm EST

Also, who would you move off the bottom pair? Sure Moore/Hunwick but than your moving Klein to his off side, or McIlrath to his off side. Not fair to a kid to play on his natural side, and Klein may be hindered as well.

Wildcard


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:28 pm EST

York: i dont agree that he would be with the team. Not yet, not unless another injury hits and he gets a shot. Torts was just as much a stickler for positioning as AV. McIlraths biggest issues have been positioning. Form the people I know out that way, they say he is finally being constant in his positioning and also being smarter about when to go for those big hits and when to fight...I think AV did the right thing by leaving him in the minors for the year so far, he missed so much time from injury and was not great position wise, so I think camp will be his real shot. If he plays well in camp and pre-season but doesn't get kept than I will wonder what AV is thinking....but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now since there are 7 guys with the team who are playing well enough...and one of those is cheaper, the other (Moore) only cost slightly higher cap hit, so the "need" for him isn't that high.

Wildcard


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:21 pm EST

Pat if torts was coach this kid would be with tge team. His foot speed is good can be better. He has a great first pass out of tge zone. He throws big hits often and he's a beast. Just not avs guy

York18


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:19 pm EST

York: Great clip and damn right - he should playing on the bottom pair for the Rangers. AV sure frustrates me sometimes...

RF4L


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:18 pm EST

York- Holy Crap! That's a monster hit. Are you sure that's a Ranger prospect doing that? Last I sw something like that it was my fave Kloucek. How is Big Mc doing down there? Not many of us get to see him or his highlights regularly. Is his footspeed and positioning as "lacking" as some might say or do you think this kid has a chance (with this coach) to make the squad next year?

PatrickDiv


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:18 pm EST

Mess: Thats what I was thinking. Early int he season he seemed faster, and he was getting chances because of it, and was beaten on D. But as of late he is much slower, and much less quick, I don't know if he is injured or if he just doesn't have anything left.

Wildcard


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:15 pm EST

Just watching that attempted sprint of Glass' last night, really telling. If Stempniak is even slower, its time for the glue factory

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:07 pm EST

Mess: Actually, I have been quite surpassed to see that while getting back on D, Glass is not the last forward back, hardly ever, and he isn't sitting high in the Offensive zone either, Stemp has gotten slower as the season has progressed, he may be the slowest Ranger right now. Not sure if he isn't going 100% or if he just doesn't have the legs, but he is what I have been calling a "flow stopper" for some time, his line can get in deep and be moving the puck and cycling, he gets it an BANG everything stops, he can't skate away from defenders, and he can't out muscle them, so the puck dies at his feet, and another Ranger need to go in an help, it ruins the cycle. ON the Ruch if he gets it the rest of his line needs to take their feet off the gas, and move east/west at the blue line to wait, and again, the flow is stopped. If it was me, I would get another good 4th/3rd line guy and sit both Stemp and Glass when Fast is back. Easy choice to sit both, not so easy to chose one over the other.

Wildcard


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:06 pm EST

And I prefer "horseplay" over Tom Foolery!

JFC31


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:05 pm EST

York18 -- Confucius says: "A picture speaks a thousand words....and a YouTube video is even better!" Great stuff....can't see a reason why Wrath shouldn't be part of the team next year....other than AV, but I'll reserve judgement until next season. We need what Wrath brings to the ice.

JFC31


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:04 pm EST

I wonder if it is prohibitive in the sense they CAN'T fit it under the CAP..or they just don't want to pay the price? Not saying SEKERA is my man, but you gotta pay the price if you want something good or you may just get what you pay for..i.e, guys like McCabe, Sjoostrom, Backman and so many more..

Hospo


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:04 pm EST

Hospo you know those guys were like oh shite it's big Mac I'll grab him and ask him not to hit me lol.

York18


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:01 pm EST

oh god that poor kid

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:00 pm EST

Talk to AV, not to us! The funny thing about the hit is what looked like a half hearted effort of the guy's teamates after the hit.....Errr..exvcuse me Mr. Mcilrath, was that really necessary?....very Rangerlike..

Hospo


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:59 pm EST

From last link: Vigneault’s rotation at the sixth defense spot continued on Sunday, with John Moore replacing Matt Hunwick against the Jackets. Starting Feb. 8, Moore has played every other game. The coach acknowledged this rotation is likely making it difficult for either defenseman to get on a roll, but again said that both “are about the same … both are playing well. “There will come some point where one guy is playing a little bit better than the other and I will stick with him, but that point has not yet come,” Vigneault said before invoking the specter of the March 2 trade deadline. “There are still a couple of days before the trade deadline,” he said. “And we’re looking at all options.” The Post has reported the Blueshirts’ interest in Andrej Sekera, the Hurricanes’ hot commodity on the blue line, but whose cost may be prohibitive.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:59 pm EST

The Defense rests! ;-)

mf


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:55 pm EST

This team certainly doesnt need any of that Tom foolery

York18


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:54 pm EST

Hopefully by the time FAST is ready to play, the Rangers have another forward via trade..I'm pretty sure they will..The question will be whether that player costs anybody of significance,...

Hospo


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:54 pm EST

Yup let's trade this guy he has nothing this team needs http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=QO7ZGitjhik

York18


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:50 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/23/rangers-help-on-way-as-jesper-fast-nears-return/ who comes out when Fast returns? Stemp isn't on the ice enough for me to get a good feeling about his speed, but he has to be faster than Glass. If Glass comes out can AV roll 4 with Stempniak?

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:40 pm EST

Steve Zipay.... AV says Fast is "coming along". From his tone, I'm guessing he's not playing this week.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:38 pm EST

Pat Leonard..... Vigneault: If NYR can add something b4 deadline to help, they will. And if they stay put, he likes this group, especially its work ethic.... Per James Mirtle..... Lupul: "I haven’t had any discussions with anyone [in management]. No one really knows where we stand right now."

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:34 pm EST

Pat Leonard &#8207;@PLeonardNYDN 4m4 minutes ago Vigneault: If #NYR can add something b4 deadline to help, they will. And if they stay put, he likes this group, especially its work ethic

puckyou


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:33 pm EST

Pat Leonard..... Lundqvist is taking shots, per Vigneault, but Rangers say they're only low shots at his feet. No re-eval on sked yet..... Per Andrew Gross..... AV says no issues with Rick Nash's availability for tomorrow after maintenance day today.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:33 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/23/martin-st-louis-has-ignored-his-supposed-demise-for-9-years/

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:22 pm EST

LHS.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:21 pm EST

Garrioch saying Wiercioch available. Thats where Id go for #6. 23, 6' 5", former 2nd rounder, seems good for 20-30 points a season, under contract for the next three at 2 mil per.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:08 pm EST

Rabid.... I think it's safe to say that one of the topics of conversation was trade deadline moves.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:04 pm EST

RR for as much of a jackass as you can be you bring a lot of good info to the board. I agree with you 100% on MSL.

KIS


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:55 pm EST

Maybe Dolan is there to sign off on a big $ deal (Kessel & Phaneuf for the NYRs 6 top prospects lol). Or maybe he's just hangin' out.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:20 pm EST

Ouch and we complained about Redden's contract? Islanders getting serious competition from the NY Mets..... "Former Met Bobby Bonilla turns 52 today. The Mets still owe him $25.2 million over the next 21 years."

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:15 pm EST

Pat Leonard...... Walking out of Greenburgh GM office to watch NYR practice: Glen Sather, Jim Schoenfeld and .... James Dolan.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:13 pm EST

Per Pat Leonard.... Nash not practicing (maintenance). Lundqvist continues to skate in his own before practice. No re-eval scheduled as of yet, so nothing new

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:10 pm EST

Pierre LeBrun.... Bryzgalov cleared waivers, no other players placed on waivers today .....Per Steve Zipay..... Don't see Nash on ice. Was fine post-game. Possibly maintenance.... Fast skating in his spot with Brassard/Zuccarello

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:01 pm EST

PatrickDiv.... I've been a Lupul fan over the years but after Ryane Clowe and his injury issues.... I'm a little gun shy :)

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 11:56 am EST

Dan MurphY.... Canucks GM Jim Benning to address media at noon EST. Ryan Miller to undergo MRI in Vancouver later today. Hearing minimum 4-6 weeks .....also... Tom Sestito's time with Canucks over.... http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/tom-sestito-s-time-with-canucks-over-1.2967508

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 11:46 am EST

Ridiculous

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 11:29 am EST

4.7 for 5 more.

barto


Mon Feb 23 2015 11:20 am EST

I like Hartnel as well but when I saw his contract I realized not happening. If I remember 4 yrs left at over 5million.

barto


Mon Feb 23 2015 11:13 am EST

On another thought, while I was watching the game I couldn't help but think that Hartnell might be a fit for us. He plays a hard nosed game, can skate on any line and is a well liked leader in the room. I have no idea about his contract or if the Jackets would look to move him but if so, I would definitely look into it...

PatrickDiv


Mon Feb 23 2015 11:11 am EST

Rhet: Lupul was also quoted in last years HBO 24/7 that he loves NYC, spends as much time as he can here and wants to live here when he is done playing. I think hes a very good player when healthy but is he healthy enough and how much $ will Toronto eat up?

PatrickDiv


Mon Feb 23 2015 11:02 am EST

A long but good read. Sorry if it was posted yesterday...... Analytics, not statistics, driving NHL evolution - http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=754099&navid=nhl:topheads

Vic


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:59 am EST

So a name that has popped up in rumors a couple times is the AVS Jan Hejda. I know he is older (36) and the AVS are not a great team, but he is playing 21 minutes per night this year, has a major shut down role. With that, if they can make the cap work (his hit is 3.25) he would be a good fit for the 3rd pair. MUCH reduced minutes would make him look better I am sure. HE moves the puck well, is a bigger guy although he isn't a big hitter or anything, it still helps along the boards and in front of the net, and is a UFA after this season. Roy seems to like to play bigger guys who a tough...maybe they would take glass and a 3rd. Or one of the prospects like R. Bourque....they can't expect much for him, but will want to get something...

Wildcard


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:53 am EST

Rhet: That's why the rumour mill has the Bruins allegedly looking at Vermette...

RF4L


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:51 am EST

Nick Kypreos..... Hearing Bruins Krejci knee injury is feared long term and possibly cost him good portion of regular season. He'll be re-evaluate this week

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:50 am EST

To put an end to speculation, Canes GM Ron Francis said, "We are not moving Jordan Staal." .....Has that EVER put an end to speculation? ...RF4L... Agreed. I bet he even gets hurt before the deadline. In the shower or something.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:41 am EST

Rhet: Lupul is a very good hockey player but alas, he's always hurt. And he's got a big contract. I suspect he can be had for a reduced price unless the Leafs are eating some of his contract.

RF4L


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:41 am EST

Steve Zipay..... Rangers practicing noon today. Jesper Fast could join without non-contact jersey. We'll see.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:39 am EST

Andrew Walker...... I've been told Leafs are actively shopping Lupul, and it's very much in the plans for him to be dealt in the next week.

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 10:10 am EST

Dtew funny cause all this began when I said St Louis presented special problems for this team, specifically. Because he does. His stature means the coach wont bench or scratch him, which weve seen even when he didnt score for Dec-Jan. You cant just move him anywhere top 6; cause he & zuc too small together. He displaces Nash & Zuc on what should be a no-brainer furst pp unit, or did until AV finally adjusted. 25/65 next year? No way. Think hes largely done. His legs arent there. I dont care ho we cheap he signs. Hell block out a kid or a better ufa we could sign. And none of thats personally attacking the guy. Its his game o RF lack there of. He should be st 25-60 right now. Step was on 80-pt pace, his winger and main PP guy should be too.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:46 am EST

Rabid - I wanted to ask your opinion of something a few days ago but the conversation got sidetracked. Mark Recchi (I believe) with Bruins on a yearly basis about, 1 year at 1 million. St. Louis could probably reach 23-25 goals this year. (not talking about the type of goals) Do you think Marty can score 20 goals and 60-65 points on the 2nd line, next year? Would you be against that for a 1 million cap hit?

DREW


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:35 am EST

York no one ever said dont critique Ranger players. Thats crazy. I objected to people like TD inventing injuries and conspiracy theories & questioning people's hearts. Thats just wrong. As for MSL he just scares the hell outta md. False sense of security hd can do the job but NYR sell themselves short. thats not just primary scoring role on ohr team but one of top opps in the entire league. Msl goes weeksvwithout finishing a play, and Step feeds him nothing but slam dunks! People think I get on Duclair but hed have better numbers than MSL in that spot. And Sathers nit stupid. Next year he will.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:30 am EST

York when the nyr had guys doing a dubi on other teams , most didn't want them. and the refs and the nhl put targets on their backs....Neil is another one of those guys. I want a neil, but it doesn't seem like the nyr want one, carcillo was not resigned.... Glass should be doing that job in the meantime, but he's not.......

stevielegs


Mon Feb 23 2015 9:05 am EST

ges999 it's all Talbot's fault .... didn't you get the memo? ....blame 101.92....there are 91 other ones......leave no memo behind....no rock unturned ....no whip unlashed.....they are a d zone nightmare.....how many shots on goal per minute do they have even strength, on the pp , and on the pk....my gut says they have more sog on the pk and more goals, than on the pp......it sure seems that way ....truly pathetic.....1 sog in the 3rd period .....disgraceful.....

stevielegs


Mon Feb 23 2015 8:55 am EST

GENE: I totally agree and have been making that point all season. Only so much you can do. And many times the best trades are the ones you don't make. Nobody knows all the possible outcomes based on the moves that could be made. Who knows, maybe this team as is right now would magically go out and win a cup but because the Rangers move GLASS or J MOORE that doesn't happen. That's why I don't want to hear any excuses after the trade deadline. I don't want to hear complaints about who the Rangers did or didn't get and use that as a reason why they lost in whatever round of the playoffs. We don't know if any other moves would have made a positive difference, made no difference at all, or just made things worse.

Vic


Mon Feb 23 2015 8:52 am EST

Another so-so outing by the Prince (IMO)...

RF4L


Mon Feb 23 2015 8:44 am EST

Good morning. 2 points is 2 points but I sure wish they would tighten up the "D". Of the last 10, only 4 games were against teams currently in playoff spots. Of those 4, the record is 2-1-1. Over the next 10 we play 5 against teams currently in playoff spots with 4 of those part of the 5 game road trip. Calgary (up next) is only 1 point out and the Cryers (only 1 regulation loss in last 10 games) are 4 points out.

ges999


Mon Feb 23 2015 8:40 am EST

An objective look at the Eastern Conference reveals the Rangers as likely to go out in the first round or return to the finals as is .This is a competitive team that has shown over the year they can play with anyone. A boost on the fourth line would help but trading our highest picks and prospects for a Vermette or similar UFA will not significantly change the odds. No team or player is perfect. I like this team. They are enjoyable to watch and the future players appear to be from the same mold .A prudent minor deal is all we need and then chill until we release the hounds.

gene_carr


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:52 am EST

Oh yeah York, well the joke store called and they are running out of you!

DREW


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:40 am EST

Hockey Buzz saying the Bruins may be looking to Vermette now as well: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Late-Night-Update-Bruins-and-Vermette-Canucks-and-Michal-Neuvirth/1/66614

RinkRat


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:36 am EST

Drew what do you mean no one is judging manhood I have the measuring stick right here and that post was so sappy that I'm going to have to reccomend augmentation surgery for you J/K ;) couldn't resist. I honest wouldn't let my child read this site and the foul language has run a little crazy lately.....rabid I called him that as a joke I'm a wise arse but I always do so with a double meaning. You can go back to the mid 90s I would call people skippy champ whatever just being me. But on further review and you see that guys follow up posts the name fits perfectly

York18


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:22 am EST

Stevie dubi is exactly what this team needs. If guys are busy trying to get back at him which is usually how it works when guys like that pull their antics they don't have time to target guys like Nash. Guys like dubi paint a target on their back and drive other teams nuts. Look what dubi did to Crosby last year. .....rabid what happened to we shouldn't talk bad about players on our team. You chastised posters for talking bad about Kreider and Nash saying real fans don't do that. You do it with msl and you did it with Richards. My point is be consistent and don't bag on guys even when they have good games and look for excuses to try and validate your view because it just diminishes your position. Even guys that suck can have good games and when they do you be happy because they did it for your team. Let me say I'm not attacking you or anything of the like just some friendly advice. I don't know if msl will be on the team next year and right now I don't care because this season is still going and all I want is every player to play well. I called Moore a bust from day one but man I wish he would prove me wrong and put on a Norris type run and make me eat shite because that means are team is better for it. You seem to want msl fail to validate your opinion instead of do well amd win.

York18


Mon Feb 23 2015 7:05 am EST

Rabid/Hospo/JFC thank you for responding. Rabid I wasn't singling you or anyone in particular out. And my kids as an example was merely just that, In the past, you had expressed that no one is coming to your defense. The point is, it shouldn't even get to that point. That isn't all your fault. However, you said it yourself, it's just an internet site. No one's manhood (apologies if woman post) is being judged. You don't "need" to stick up for yourself nor (and this is for everyone not just Rabid) should you be subject to ridicule. Someone pays for and maintains this site. At some point it will go away and posters here (you included) offer great hockey news and discussion.

DREW


Mon Feb 23 2015 6:35 am EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/23/martin-st-louis-has-ignored-his-supposed-demise-for-9-years/

stevielegs


Mon Feb 23 2015 6:19 am EST

Dubi trying to be a mini Hollweg ... If a nyr tried that they be called by most dirty and stupid, and the refs would have him in the box or in the locker room. Trying blindside, knee shots, charging, slew footing, boarding, and submarine jobs is piece of Cooke hockey. Clean hard checking guy is what the nyr need.... Not a hit and run artist who will only fight non fighters....and run back to the bench when fighters are after them....the officials last night were amateurs , even disagreeing with each other on offsides... Pathetic display of cluelessness ...

stevielegs


Mon Feb 23 2015 4:37 am EST

Messier. You disgrace the name with your childish antics. Where foes a fipshit like uou get off telling anybody anything? I routinely make fun of you positions because they are narrow-minded, amatuerish and often LAUGHABLE! MDL in 16! Whoo-hoo! People are going yo be begging for him to be gone by season's end. I just hope he & the coach that enables him donf cost us a Cup.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 4:15 am EST

Elklund you talk hockey until someone disagrees with you then you go personal. Well, tough. This is a discussion board, if you get disagreed with, you have to refute on the facts. instead, you go personal. No one is interested or entertained by that. If you want to talk hockey, do it, and stick with it.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 4:01 am EST

This is otherwise off-topic but there are a lot of kids across the country who already exist and are desperately in need of parents through no fault of their own. If I thought I was ready to be a parent, Id adopt before making new ones.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:55 am EST

you said "M Staal"

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:48 am EST

M Staal? Well obvious ly I mean E or J Staal. Marc signed a new contract two weeks ago. Obviously hes in nyr plans, though not deadline plans. Geez. Case in point with the . & ; . And naturally I agree, cursing is a tofs violation but so should manipulation I.e. fucking with another poster. You dont believe in kids? Id be interested to hear that one.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:38 am EST

Eklund- you said M Staal, not J Staal, not E Staal. //// I don't have kids, I don't believe in having kids, but still immature language doesn't advance argument. Well though out positions advance arguments.

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:30 am EST

Who's better Mess, thats available? Youd have to tell me. Vermette & the Staals (at their respective areas) you wanna say Bozak? Ok if you think so for some reason. He had some good years. Idk any other centers available in that class. Could be forgetting someone. DREW, nice speech. Itd be easier to take if it were consistent. If you wrote something, anything, and a poster like HIPCHECK, who never contributes ANYTHING, came out of the blue and said he was going to petition to have you banned for expressing that opinion, well I think thats far more egregious than some tofs b.s. basically if thats your only concern, language, well I dont see it as a big deal. We"re adults. Your worried about your kids walkin by? Really?maybe so. But theres nothing in the TofS either for people whos only aim is to ruin the posting experience for others. 24/7, if you type a period they say semi colon. Its a twisted joke. Or they ascribe derogatory nicknames to a new poster (Handicap, which I acknowledge may have been too easy to resist lol) on the basis of one post, the guys first. No violation there. Nobody says nothing (except me). The place is either a freeforall or not. Id prefer it not but I dont control what others do. I have a right to expression & self defense, whether anyone thinks its just or not. Just cause youre opinionated I dont think you should lose those rights. Ill talk strict hockey as long & hard as anyone. But if it gets over the line so will I.thats an eye for an eye. Teach your kid that. Itl serve them well in this world.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 3:27 am EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/23/martin-st-louis-has-ignored-his-supposed-demise-for-9-years/

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:48 am EST

That is a HUGE assumption

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:38 am EST

V most talented assuming M. Stall isnt in nyr plans.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 2:35 am EST

Vermette played with Nash. Dunno how much weight that carries with Brass having career year. No problem there, and V is similar to our other two (3 counting Hayes) centers in the brute category (theyre not). You could look at the trade deadline like a draft. You can have your plans, but take the best player available if you cant execute your plan for some reason. On that basis Vermette is easily the most talented and proven guy offensively. Hes also strong on draws. Idk where he compares on FOs to Shawn Horcroft. But either upgrades Hayes. Maybe Hayes stays Iin middle, Vermette plays RW & takes draws. Thats a versatile talented line with Hagelin. They could be sneaky good (and youve got Vermette if MSL tanks too) Vermette's way better than Miller right now. Pick up a tough wing, cheap d-depth & done. Or get Bozak.

Rabid Ranger


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:49 am EST

With that being said......there has to be a Noonan, Matteau, Glenn Anderson and a Craig McTavish lurking in the NHL right now for the right prices....We just need like 2 of the 4 and keep our Nash and Kreider.

TradeStar28


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:46 am EST

Hospo.....like most Rangers fans, we often wondered what would have happened if the Rangers didn't make those deals. Mike Gartner was a consistent goal scorer (he had 28 goals at time of trade) and Tony Amonte was a youngster who went on to become a beast with the Chicago Blackhawks. Basically the NY Rangers are in no shape to make trades this year like those.......It would be like trading Rick Nash (RW) and Chris Kreider (RW) except there is no Messier , Graves, Kovalev , Leetch or Zubov left after the trade......lol.....We would have a garbage pail of mediocrity left compared to the 1994 team.

TradeStar28


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:30 am EST

TRADE - and how many deals did that team make before the deadline to win the Cup>....SMITH and KEENAN knew they needed different players for the PO wars....Do AV and SATHER??

Hospo


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:23 am EST

In 2014-15, and after the first 58 games of the season.....the NY Rangers are 36-16--6...........In comparison , the 1993-94 NY Rangers were 38-16-4 after 58 games. The 58th game that season was on February 21st, 1994 and they won in Overtime vs Pittsburgh by the Final score of 4-3.............Coinky Dink?

TradeStar28


Mon Feb 23 2015 1:09 am EST

"I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off of people."

Rhet0ric


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:39 am EST

Here is a nice colorful layout of the NY Rangers as assembled now........Does this look like a Cup lifter??????????......... http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/lines/32/new-york-rangers

TradeStar28


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:21 am EST

The Walrus was Paul............

mf


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:10 am EST

I like THE Kreider- he reminds us you can't take 90% of these internet rumors (or their peddlers) seriously. They mostly just do not come true

Messier11


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:08 am EST

Yes....Antoine Vermette would fit the job description.....Antoine, like AV....is a froggy.......and the Rangers had good luck with big frogs (Benwah Ballz Pool Yatch)...........Antoine is a skilled center......I see he put up big goals and assists with Columbus in 2009-10 and 2010-11....And Rick Nash had very similar stats on same team.......Not sure if the Frog and Nashty are buddy boys and played on a line with one another at any point? So with that being said........will JT Miller and a 2nd rounder get it done? lol

TradeStar28


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:01 am EST

I will only add this: That this team, as constructed, is bound only by the limits of a FIRST-ROUND EXIT. Yes, that's correct, ladies and ladies. This team is rolling on a graveled pavement to the nearest golf course. Unless it bandages its most glaring deficiencies, which are its 3rd defensive pairing and fourth-line disaster play.

THE Kreider


Mon Feb 23 2015 12:00 am EST

EKLUND confirms: THE Kreider for DESPO. No draft picks or futures involved....

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:57 pm EST

DREW - I hear ya friend..That message has been delivered countless times over the years and they used to carry some weight and have some staying power..lately, though, they are mere blips and have little effect becasue the Wall has deviated from a playground to battleground of opinions..where the last word wins ..Hopefully, not this time...

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:57 pm EST

LOL

THE Kreider


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:54 pm EST

TRADE - You mean VERMETTE? :)

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:53 pm EST

TheKREIDER.....obviously u have a ton of man love for Carp.....I like carp too but you need to add to your routine of silly ass trade proposals from a faux eklund and your disdain for Tanner Ass and Lee Stumpyakk

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:53 pm EST

RHET - Not many! But I can only speak for myself.. I had them winning the EAST regular season based on The King, the D, and the talent..POs to be determined if they picked up the missing ingredients by the deadline...Nothing has changed to me

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:52 pm EST

desperately seeking susan: for third line duties......Applicant must play an up-tempo game, possess some recent goal scoring ability (does not include 20 years ago in the home street hockey league), playoff tenacity, face-off winner is a plus.....Apply within

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:48 pm EST

Hospo....If we did a poll before the season amongst Ranger fans and asked them if they thought at the 38 games mark of the season if the Rangers would be ahead of last years pace(with Hank missing at least 9 games).... What do you think the response would be?

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:48 pm EST

As long as we DON'T trade GLASS and STEMPNIAK, we're good.

THE Kreider


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:46 pm EST

agreed hospo .....because we both know that no one on the current 4th line has the talent to slide up!

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:45 pm EST

DREW- totally agree. Way more convincing ways to make point than by cussing about it. Try using the old brain instead of the mouth

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:42 pm EST

TRADE - We disagree a little on the foward need..I think we need a 3rd liner and have the guys that can slide down to 4th line

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:41 pm EST

Boyle & Glass for Boyle & Stralman? I'll drive..

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:40 pm EST

RHET - Rangers are a good team. period. A very good regular season team....I want this team to be able to beat all types of opponents come POs and March when the game changes--wewon't get anything near that until after the deadline but I have seen enought glimpses to know they need fortifications

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:39 pm EST

Rangers after 58 games this season: 36-16-6...... Rangers after 58 games last season: 31-24-3

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:38 pm EST

Trade: think if they go for a D'man, its a RHS for the Right Side....

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:36 pm EST

Hospo....basically the Rangers need Brian Boyle and Anton Stralman back.....lol Ironically, we fuggin all complained about those 2 here much more than praised them......Hahahaha

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:32 pm EST

Hospo.....I am pretty sure that the Rangers brass know what is lacking on this team. They have two challenges to overcome......first and foremost, they must try to get the better end of a trade and at the same time, not disrupt the right pieces of the puzzle. Secondly, the Rangers need to put the cap space into perspective as well. So right now, it is like a jigsaw puzzle.........Hopefully we just improve on guys like Stemp and Glass and provide some depth. Also, we could use an 8th dman as well for depth. So with that being said.....the Ranger willl get one forward for bottom 6 and one d-man who could step in for J. Moore or Hunwick or "potentially" improve over them.

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:30 pm EST

True, Hospo. Flip side is a tougher sked in theory more losses, look more desperate and prices rise. Ive said all year they are in terrific position to put the cherries on top. And they are. They see their weaknesses too. And plenty of trade options. I dont tjink they cant miss improving, but they need at least one impact guy - and a few good soldiers.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:30 pm EST

Stats of Last 90 Days: Rangers tops in NHL in win pct. NYR also tops in East in GF/game, 2nd in east in adjusted GAA; #1 in east in GD/game...... Rangers currently lead the entire NHL in goal differential per game played for full season(Adjusted: Not including EN and SO goals).

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:30 pm EST

It would certainly build confidence if we held these team to 0, 1, 2, goals max ....... "Deeee Fense!"

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:24 pm EST

I really hate these games and opponents---TOR, COL, AZ, NYI (swiss cheese defense), VAN, BUF, CBJ,CAL, AZ..No great way of judiging your team and what it needs to WIN the CUP..Gonna have to rely on the acumen of Sather and the Ranger brain trust to separate fact from fiction..and bring in the new characters needed

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:23 pm EST

Well said Drew......some of the peeps on here are internet tough guys......but we all know that they are 130 pound weaklings in real life and i will kick the shit out of everyone of them that gets out of hand. lol

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:21 pm EST

Rangers are now #2 overall in NHL average goals for,,,,,,,,,,,,,thats nutty

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:20 pm EST

McDavid has 92pts in 36 games.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:19 pm EST

I am relieved we got the win tonight and in a good mood. I do see the flaws in the Rangers right now. I would probably now put defense a priority over the face off concern. Hey, to everyone on this board. I don't want to come across as someone on a pedestal and telling everyone how they should act. And to be clear, this isn;t targeted towards anyone in particular. I actually can say that I am fortunate enough (being on this wall for 99) to not have any conflicts. I continue to learn a lot and hopefully posted some thoughtful comments myself. When I disagreed, I hope I did so respectfully. I think most of us are adults on this site, so scrolling through or ignoring the comments is fine. However, I am growing concerned as the posts are getting a little concerning. Next time any of you post, just read the text that appears above the text box. I am not sure KARA is still running the site. Once in a while I see a poster "RFC Admin". I don't want this site or the posters (including everyone) go away. I am starting to think that it is going to be a reality. Look, please excuse me if this sounds like I am on some high horse. I just see that little by little, threats and language are starting to get aggressive. Look if someone drops the hard C word, I am not going to run away. Just remember that the wall can be (and has been) frequented by females (KARA ran/runsthe site) and sometimes my kids look over my shoulder when I am reading about the Rangers. Anyway, I will resume enjoying and posting about our Rangers. Enjoy the win tonight and let's look towards the deadline and more importantly, the Atlanta/Calgary Flames. LGR

DREW


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:12 pm EST

he also made a deke at the blueline to throw his line offsides on his one rush

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:07 pm EST

Glass had about two hits, some giveaways, and about a two-foot breakaway

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:06 pm EST

Shall we recycle? How many 2nd tier picks along with Tanner Glas will it take to get Mike Richards and then LA to eat $2.75mill of his $5.75mill salary for the duration of his contract? (5yrs after this one) Once acquired we'll have him change his last name... ;-)

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:01 pm EST

Its the AV way! Look the other way, pat your countryman on the back and keep callin that #! Toe Blake my ass. Guy is a jerk.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:01 pm EST

Hospo: IMO, if we can add a Torts-like clamp down, keep em to the outside defense to what we've got here we can win it all...... I just get the feeling that plenty of the existing guys here know exactly what that entails: McD, Girardi, Staal, JMoore, DMoore, Hank, Talbot, Brassard, Zucc, CK, Nash........... Tonight we're up 3-0 and allow 3 unanswered goals and almost lose that 2nd point, NFW in my book..... "Time to call the Dr., I think I'm gonna crash"

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:01 pm EST

OK, a team is rarely complete, but yhou get a nice 3rd liner who also takes FOs and are able to move JT MILLER down to the 4th with Moore and FAST (for Stemp and Glass) and I think that's as good asit's going to get for the Rangers....More likely, they leave the 3rd line is and pick up a dumpster dive forward for added depth...Mistakes on both parts

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:58 pm EST

LOVE the way Dubi plays! We need a little of that...HARTNELL was the one really trying ot injure people..He cranked MCD big time..But all the Rangers on ice just nodded and said "nice hit"

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:55 pm EST

15 of 20 for Cam. Flames are gonna beat our ass if Rangers dont work.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:54 pm EST

Dubi played like a cryer with intent to injure... He should join his cousin delzero there.... He'd fit right in....

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:52 pm EST

The only reason we didn't lose this games was GLASS. He is a tour de force out there.

THE Kreider


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:52 pm EST

MF - I'm with ya...and..we've been playing ho-hum to crappy teams (except for a handful) for quite awhile..The Rangers forwards and d-men actually did a good defesnive job in the 3rd period until that fateful shift...I wanna see more of that..We should be strangling teams like VAN, BUF, CBJ and the upcoming CAL/AZ...

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:49 pm EST

So how many points have they gotten with talbot? That's what counts.... Nobody claimed he was hank but he's doing a great job filling in afaic... And he won in the shootout ... Good luck helps with the crossbar.::it's the team d that is in need of tightening up... Wake up ulfie ....

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:49 pm EST

It's got to be Moore & Boyle because we have to give those two less ES minutes. Especially since we're fortunate enough to have the top 4 that we do...

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:49 pm EST

Enjoy it PJ. 0-for-20 is right around corner. His next prolonged slump carries right into the POs! And the coach wont bench him. Perfect self-inflicted wound. Itll be Richards all over again!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:48 pm EST

EKLUND confirms: ST LOUIS + TALBOT + KLEIN + MILLER to the Kings for M. RICHARDS

THE Kreider


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:47 pm EST

Our team defense sucks!!! We're becoming the Penguins of yesteryear... Back in November I mentioned that if we held the opposition to two or fewer goals we'd be fine.. We were showing that we could score 2 & 3 consistently at the time... Then early December we began to win a great percentage of our games holding the opposition to two or fewr goals against, our GAA's went down to 2.08 gpg... Since I believe around the all-star break, or mid-January, we're giving up 3 & 4 goals per game & our GAA's are up to 2.41 gpg....... Yes we're in 5th in the league in GAA's, but that doesn't mean our GAA's are acceptable or should be pushed on the back burner.... Things are going to tighten up come the playoffs and we're not going to win many 2-1 games with this mindset....... jmo from the defense wins ballgames dept at the CJC.....

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:45 pm EST

Good for Talbot in the shootout....I was thinking a cardboard cut-out of Hank would be more effective....

PJ


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:44 pm EST

Happy as hell MSL is acoring again....Why wouldn't we all be?....Who cares what Maloney said about the second goal....Great play all around....

PJ


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:43 pm EST

Moof cow pie ... Dinty Moore = delzero.... End of story ... Hospo gas would be better than the relentless msl bashing ... The pp is ah kneel using the sully learn playbook ... Veenyo didn't put nash on the last shootout because he makes mistakes.... And that was one....

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:40 pm EST

Don't get AV giving the 4th line late in the game shifts....Stepniak has lost anything he had and Glass is awful....

PJ


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:39 pm EST

Hey its good if it makes you happy. I see big trouble. Radio call just now on SO; MSL whiffs & scores! Haha I kid you not. And it was Maloney makin fun of the expert's 2nd. He's bottom feeding with a top playmaker doin it all for him. Wake up!!!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:39 pm EST

mf - agree about the Hunwick-Moore tango...At least let Moore and Boyle play agaisnt the next three crappy games for more evaluation..Hunwick will not ba an answer...Moore and Boyle? I don't know

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:37 pm EST

mf - Nah, he just has gas!

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:35 pm EST

Meta-Moo-siLegs: What are you a gastroenterologist, or did you stay at a Holiday Inn?

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:33 pm EST

IMO the biggest screw up this season has been the handling of John Moore.. This coach has created a problem where none existed.. They should've let him play as long as he wasn't injured.. Dan Boyle is a defensive liability, and J Moore is our fastest defensemen. Leave the two guys paired up already and let them gain some chemistry for the stretch..... end of opinional rant....

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:31 pm EST

Hospo lett'em fire away. Im bullet proof and totally confident (but none too happy).. This PP will not be there for us when we need it. Its on MSL but even more on AV.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:31 pm EST

Hospo... I think it would cure a lot of what ails us. We basically traded Stralman for Boyle and defensively we're back to where we were last season before we traded MDZ. JMO.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:31 pm EST

More fiber and a courtesy flush please.... Put a target on your back and complain when someone shoots at it.... Persecution complex squared...more cowbell some nails and a cross....

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:28 pm EST

Jfc dont care what Mess thinks. Making a very REAL point about special teams in POs. Theyre masking a big problem. Book it. No heavy point shot. No sniper. No hope in clutch PO spot.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:27 pm EST

RHET - The defense just ain't the back 6..Since The King went down, the forwards have focused much, much more on offense and goals..have left the D stranded alot

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:27 pm EST

Stempniak and Glass each got < 10:00 despite OT. The sooner we can move from these guys, the better for the other 10 F. Girardi and Kreider with 5 hits, MILLER with 4. MSL 2 goals on 2 shots thats 100% shooting accuracy. Stephan with 6 shots, Kreider, Staal, Zucc with 4. McD with almost 26 minutes tonight with Moore getting 14. Need a #6 that AV can trust or someone will be picking up the slack.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:26 pm EST

Jfc it's hopeless .... Blinded by the night vision... Msl # 1 star ... Means he sucks even in the future april. ....amazing creskin ..:

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:25 pm EST

RABID - Noit for nothing, but damn, you complain about people (Mess) taking shots at you but it's like you're begging for them (Mess) to do so..And, of course, some can't turn that opportunity down

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:25 pm EST

Stepan 8th in nhl in primary assists. Wonder what a real sniper would do on his flank. Nash might have 60!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:25 pm EST

My stomach's still doing flippity-flops. We are now a point in front of the Pens. We really need to shore up our defense at the trade deadline.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:23 pm EST

RR -- we won the game and got closer to 1st place for crimminy sakes....people are supposed to,start immediately bitching about the PP? MSL scores in the Shootout and you're pissed off? C'mon...you're losing perspective because you and Mess are too busy trying g to one up one anoth. It's really tedious...

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:21 pm EST

Dinty Moore is the new del zero

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:20 pm EST

,Ugly hockey against ugly teams ..But, two points is two points..Likely to continue against Cal, AZ..but it's points that matter as long as Sather realizes what this team needs before next Monday

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:20 pm EST

Our Team Defense Sucks!

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:20 pm EST

Whew. Now no one will bring up miserable PP(with MSL) for another day. Conspirators live to connive another day. But thatll bite you BIG in April.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:18 pm EST

Trade talbot

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:18 pm EST

Talbot wins the Cam-off. great for him. This team hung him out for two periods and OT, and he wins it for them anyways.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:18 pm EST

What was that double post delay? LOL

NYStranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:18 pm EST

GREAT PLAY BY TALBOT WITH THE STICK!!!!

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:18 pm EST

Like I said before - we got this in a shoot out. DREW calls it.

DREW


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:17 pm EST

MVP!

NYStranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:17 pm EST

Nashty!

NYStranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:17 pm EST

RANGERS WIN!!!!

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:17 pm EST

Hey Mess 11 you really called this one! This Columbus Goalie sucks!

NYStranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:17 pm EST

That Talbot is so lucky....that should have gone in!

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:17 pm EST

Rhett you got your wish and it pays off

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:17 pm EST

That Talbot is so lucky....that should have gone in!

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:16 pm EST

McIlheny not used to that partial whiff! Lol. MSl 21% youre up first! Beautiful AV! French connection trumps all.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:16 pm EST

Damn, JT and the Rangers could have used that one!

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:16 pm EST

we put one shot on McIlheney in the 3rd. This is not about him being good.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:16 pm EST

Missed it by THAT much...

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:15 pm EST

we can pick on players all we want, but, as a team going to a shootiut in the last two games at home agasint midling teams like VAN and CBJ shows this team needs a little help up front and behind

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:15 pm EST

3-2-1...

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:15 pm EST

Wow Eklund this just isn't your night

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:15 pm EST

Marty

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:14 pm EST

Hey Mess 11 you really called this one! This Columbus Goalie sucks!

NYStranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:14 pm EST

YES MSL!!!

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:13 pm EST

great job guys now its on Talbot again. way to go.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:13 pm EST

Can we put Rick Nash on the shootout?

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:12 pm EST

McD that was a bad one

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:11 pm EST

why is John Moore on the ice right now

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:11 pm EST

Why take 40-yr old legs off the ice in OT? Kreider/Hags very ineffective in open ice. MSL Brooklyn Islander player/coach in 16.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:11 pm EST

Man....thank goodness Zucc only converts about 7% of his point blank chances......If it was any higher he would probably be looking for 9 Million a year....lol

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:10 pm EST

Our "team defense" sucks! Way too many GA's per game.. 2 or fewer and we should be fine. 3 & more, we're not going far... factual opinion

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:10 pm EST

Terrible bench management....same 4 guys on formTWO MINUTES IN OT! Ridiculous!

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:09 pm EST

I don't want to see Boyle in OT anymore.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:08 pm EST

Rhet Ive called those out also

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:07 pm EST

now draws the penalty

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:07 pm EST

RHET - Did you see MCD get platered in the back by Hartnell a few minutes ago? brutal...The guy has taken alot of huge hits this year without retribution

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:06 pm EST

Can we turn the PP down?

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:06 pm EST

We need to win it before the shootout or we're dead.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:06 pm EST

Sather and veenyo think they're better without msl ... Don't they? ... Doubt that too ... Guess the experts and the pros aren't that smart... Gmafb .... Then guys wonder why and cry they are getting picked on.... Martyr syndrome ....

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:05 pm EST

Mess... We've seen Hank give up those kind of goals too.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:05 pm EST

Rangers never showed up for the 3rd period. Who will show up for OT?

NYStranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:05 pm EST

The trumpet guy joke may be dated.....I remember him out there 20 years ago....not sure if anyone provides and brass instrument entertainment after the games now

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:04 pm EST

Our only shot at getting the 2nd point is to win this in the overtime. I don't think we win a shoot out here

DREW


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:04 pm EST

I can forgive us because it's the second game of a back-to-back, and we got to our hotel at 3 am this mor...wait, that's not us?

Rexi29


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:04 pm EST

Who is the guy skating in McDonagh's jersey?

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:03 pm EST

Id take Dubi back if they retain $

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:03 pm EST

DOUBLEN - Exactly, and against aother ho-hum team...like VAN the other night

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:02 pm EST

last goal deflected twice but from far out and Talbot doesn't even react, looks like it hits his stick and caroms up

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:02 pm EST

If the Rangers go to the shootout tonight......they should put the black guy who plays the trumpet in front of MSG after the game in net for it because he would outperform Talbot

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:01 pm EST

The puck was deflected by a skate on the way in.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:00 pm EST

Wazzup Cam? And we're not better w/o MSL. We're much better. Hope the zamboni mows him down....

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:00 pm EST

These refs suck chant

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:00 pm EST

GameCast is wrong, right? One single, solitary shot on goal this period is a typo, right?

Rexi29


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:00 pm EST

This getting pinned in with under 5 min is a broken record and there is always that one or two chances to clear when they near the blueline and they never get the puck out.

DOUBLEN


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:59 pm EST

Blame talbot for bad d game ... Guess he should score too....and the bad pp is his fault too...

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:59 pm EST

A "Lets blow this game Rangers" chant comes up from the crowd.

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:59 pm EST

Good D almost all period and then thhat...Guys were on the ice too long..gassed..Bad goal by The Prince but CBJ outworked them there

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:58 pm EST

oh my Glass sprinting is slow

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:58 pm EST

Every game lately! We blow leads! Time to get a Dman. They get pinned in their own zone and get scored on every time

rngrsans


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:57 pm EST

Can't let goals from the blue line go in....ridiculous!

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:56 pm EST

Skapski next game

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:56 pm EST

More bs play in d zone never getting it out ...

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:56 pm EST

This looks like Vancouver game all over again

DREW


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:55 pm EST

Foxwoods five sammy nosen

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:51 pm EST

well, we let them take the pace back. Looks like if we win this one #26 is going to be the first star.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:50 pm EST

I don't care if MSL, or ANY Ranger for that matter, gets goals by blowing them in....any goal for the Rangers is a good goal. Who gives a sh!t how they go in....if he's the LUCKIEST son of a bitch I the world every time he scores, then I want the luckiest SOB in the world on my side. MSL is a NY Ranger...every goal he scores is a good goal.

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:50 pm EST

Pp concept is screwed up looking for perfect shots instead of thinking like its 5 on 5 and getting it to an open guy ... Way too much passing ... 1-2/ shoot

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:47 pm EST

Boyle's confidence looks shot.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:46 pm EST

And I higly doubt Maloney thinks msl sucks...

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:45 pm EST

Savard seems a little dumb to me. Im glad we didn't go in on him back during the rumors.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:45 pm EST

CBJ has been completely unable,to,handle,the Brassard line all night....AV should try to get them some extra shifts....

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:43 pm EST

Oh yeah msl sucks... If you think he does... I don't ...

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:40 pm EST

Dickaletti doing a wildcard on the bs dive by the goalie claiming nash hit him

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:40 pm EST

does anyone else seriously believe that we are a better team by just subtracting MSL?

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:38 pm EST

RABID.... You are totally biased on MSL. Neither goal was a deflection or a tap in.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:37 pm EST

It's Rabids 9:26 that concerns me. I cringed.

DREW


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:37 pm EST

nah, I couldnt care less how he puts up his points. My point has always been that MSL is too valuable a player to let walk, no one who will cost so little next season able to replace his production. Its a harmonious position with win now at all costs. I don't know how others can seemingly espouse that and also move MSL at all costs.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:30 pm EST

and the Vegas odds of Mess11 not responding to RR's 9:23 post are... drum roll..... zero..... keep flaming each others fires.... good grief Charlie Brown

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:28 pm EST

Sorry guys, turned the game on just in time to see DANO score and then watched the rest of the period..CBJ was the better team (same thing happened when i tuned in late against VAN)..Supposedely Rangers were flying in the first and winning FOs..That all stopped when I was watching. Huge FO loss by MOORE lead right to AA's goal...Be nice to win the third period....and the game

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:26 pm EST

If they hold on here theyre 2 pts back of Isles with 3 in hand.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:25 pm EST

we need to play 20 minutes of shutout ball

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:23 pm EST

Maloney was making fun of 2nd Msl goal. Said Stemkowski coulda scored it. Another EN goal. For a night hes M Sweep Louis. A real analyst would check his #'s against toughest opponents. I bet they find hes a lot closer to SUCK than not. It can deceive simple minds. Hes playing with a top 5 playmaker - and a rocketship. Does the guy ever score on anything but a tap-in? That should tell astute observers something. And a real analyst would also realize when Sather subtracts MSL next year, even a 35-40pt Duclair or Buch doesnt cause us to miss the POs. But not everyone understands subtlety.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:19 pm EST

Michelletti gets excited when the opposition comes back in the game....How the hell does this guy keep his job as the Ranger color guy....The worst ever....

PJ


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:18 pm EST

Boyle with 3 giveaways on one shift in the 2nd. The thing about him that's confounding is how he loses the puck stick handling all by himself- he constantly does it. This team never goes for the jugular - they bury one of those power plays and its game over.

puckyou


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:18 pm EST

Sather has been in NY for what seems like a lifetime and has to find someone who can blast the puck from the point. That is, IMO, the single biggest reason the PP continually struggles. What's with that anyways??

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:17 pm EST

Our fourth line is a huge liability...Staal just miserable in this game....Need to get the next one....Not sure what Nash is doing for us from the side of the net on the PP.....

PJ


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:15 pm EST

OMG, 20+ years of a shitbox PP...WTF?

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:13 pm EST

The 2 jerk brothers making like the nyr have lost the game .... They really need to be fired....

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:12 pm EST

I'm really starting to wonder if we need to maybe overpay for another D.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:09 pm EST

Rangers definitely let down their intensity level....they thought they ha d it in the bag

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:09 pm EST

Great job by the D letting him get three chances at the puck. How many saves does Talbot need to make?

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:07 pm EST

Why don't we ever get quick whistles?

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:07 pm EST

good goal by Ani.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:07 pm EST

BS

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:59 pm EST

Talbot's stick handling makes AV's system much more effective.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:58 pm EST

Girardi is still the bane of my existence on the PP,

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:58 pm EST

Talbot warming up his offensive game

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:56 pm EST

kreider is pissing off everyone. Did not look good after that hit.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:55 pm EST

That Talbot pass to their blue line exactly what I was talking about yesterday. If Hank would do that, we'd have more goals

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:54 pm EST

JFC: Posting on THE WALL, listening TO THE WALL :)

DOUBLEN


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:50 pm EST

How can you have any pudding if ya don't eat yer meat?

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:45 pm EST

No billy goat meat?

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:43 pm EST

if you do get the Papa Johns, ask for the horsemeat topping its off the menu but so so worth it

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:42 pm EST

if only Papa Johns wasn't disgusting

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:42 pm EST

well he was 18 in those ECF games, I believe. I remember when he hit 6'. Talk about player mismanagement he and Savard

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:41 pm EST

Another papa johns game

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:39 pm EST

Book 'em, Danno!

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:38 pm EST

Still screwing up coverage in the d zone giving up easy goals

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:38 pm EST

Love the Christian horsemeat Dube reference. Just looked him up on hockeydb, almost 40 and still playing! The site said he is 6'2". Can that be right? I though he was 5'10".

limbo


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:37 pm EST

Missed coverage...

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:35 pm EST

I think that one went off his butt

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:35 pm EST

Too quick....too skilled...too bad for CBJ!

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:35 pm EST

Marty Cohen goin..

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:35 pm EST

aaaa Wabbit, are you there??? LOL

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:35 pm EST

Uh oh

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:33 pm EST

some maybe just to talk to each other

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:32 pm EST

well, only about half those teams are buyers, the other half are sellers. I think some are here for us, others for CBJ.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:30 pm EST

newsflash zippy zipay....all those teams are probably watching the blew jackoffs....who is sather looking to move?.....j moore, jt jitters ( who needs to wake up), hunwick , glass, stempi, maybe fast who's not playing, ??????? if them.....can't be many teams banging down the doors looking for those guys.....time to kick dirty dubi's ass....tries to knee msl and charge him before that , hits nash from behind, ....broken glass needs to break his jaw.....

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:19 pm EST

Every time I see Graves it just makes me wonder why he doesn't have a bigger job in the organization.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:19 pm EST

Oops. isles gettin waxed by VC. dorsett got somebody good.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:16 pm EST

Point wasbif NYR had a few more decent nplayrrs - any age - theyd have given a ducky Flyer team a run for their money. Everythings an opp to sing the prospect song for some. PFC.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:16 pm EST

Dubinsky drops the gloves, but he can't fight.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:15 pm EST

Point wasbif NYR had a few more decent nplayrrs - any age - theyd have given a ducky Flyer team a run for their money. Everythings an opp to sing the prospect song for some. PFC.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:14 pm EST

Yup Moore.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:13 pm EST

I'm thinking Glass vs. Dubinsky

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:12 pm EST

Rangers too quick for CBJ so,far...

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:08 pm EST

oh, you mean Moore

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:07 pm EST

THAT would be a ballsy move.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:05 pm EST

Mess... Yeah, I don't get it either unless we're showcasing him.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:04 pm EST

not=now

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:03 pm EST

have to go after Hartnell now. Cant let our aging PPQB get lit like that

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:02 pm EST

Rhet thats what makes the Boyle/Moore pairing so curious. Boyle has shown flashes but Im not of the opinion we picked up the wrong available PPQB should have gone after Green or Franson

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:01 pm EST

Our PK is flying, we need to take more penalties :)

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:59 pm EST

Ok reverse angle shows stick on dudes face. Hook. Other side just looked like a reach-around poke check

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:57 pm EST

Remember that go as l Drew. Saw it go in, hit camera. Ungodly rocket.martu Miss finds a loose puck and open cage. Expert. Prospects prospects. Call this place PFC.Why dont we just raid a maternity ward. We'll win Cup!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:57 pm EST

Boyle needs to play with a partner that can be a defensive conscience for him. He can be just brutal on D.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:57 pm EST

THAT was embellished

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:57 pm EST

MSL has always been a streaky scorer. We have people on The Wall who snipe as well as he does ;^)

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:55 pm EST

Ill do it for him- we were already ahead 1-0, so it doesn't really count

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:55 pm EST

Ahh Wabbit: care to critique that 2nd goal? ;-)

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:54 pm EST

three in four for Marty Miss. Mister Perimeter

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:53 pm EST

BEAUTIE MSL!!!

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:53 pm EST

what a novice goal

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:53 pm EST

MARTY PARTY

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:48 pm EST

If you want to talk crap goaltenders, McIlheiny is one. Tonight should be a blowout

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:48 pm EST

PURPLE HAYES SCORES!!!!

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:48 pm EST

nice wrister by Hayes

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:48 pm EST

GABBY

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:47 pm EST

woof, those were some tough times

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:34 pm EST

Messier11 - yep - he played on "the old man line" with Kevin Stevens and John MacLean. Does anyone remember the game he scored in overtime he was the only one who knew it went in. His arm around Richter smiling, waiting for the call?

DREW


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:32 pm EST

Won 28 of last 39 ....Welcome Blueshirts fans! NYR (35-16-6) vs CLS (26-28-3) starting now Download the Official NYR App (http://bit.ly/1Df2luO) & watch on MSG

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:31 pm EST

There were no kids in the system bc of all the mercenary failures. Could have had Ferraro Laperiere Norstrom and instead we had Driver, Eastwood, Flatley Churla, Bill Berg. No one to call up except for Chis Dube and the Ferraro twins. Dube taking draws against Lindros just months after playing in the Memorial Cup

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:22 pm EST

Tikk had two bad knees. Eventually his good knee became his bad knee after the bad one was scoped, he used to joke. Spent a lot of time on the first line with Mess in the playoffs that season and eventually on a makeshift line of Messier/Gretzky/Tikkanen as the depletions got worse. Played for another three seasons after that, including a return here. Tikk III, as many here will remember

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:18 pm EST

Drew as I remember it Tik's knee was damaged so bad hes the only skater I ever saw limp. He retired after a tryout that fall if not mistaken. Still they couldve won that series. From ths n thru the PO misses the team was never deep enough. Not just poor drafting. There was no cap! They just wouldnt signenough guys.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:05 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDOwbYnvP4

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 7:00 pm EST

"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind; a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead—your next stop, the Twilight Zone."

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 6:48 pm EST

Rabid - 1997 playoffs was such a bitter sweet season. That team was just ravaged with injuries. Dallas Eakins was swinging from F to D, I think. Mike Eastwood!!! Kovalev had a season ending injury and that may have led to the Nemchinov, Noonan for Tikkanen, Courtnall trade. I read in a book that Messier was really upset at the deal because he really was a Nemchinov supporter. I would think he'd be calmed by Esa Tikkanen's arrival. I'm not sure how close they were off the ice but they won several cups together.

DREW


Sun Feb 22 2015 6:47 pm EST

Steve Zipay..... Team reps assigned here at MSG, scouting: Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, Winnipeg, Arizona, Dallas, Nashville, San Jose, Calgary, Montreal...

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 6:40 pm EST

Andrew Gross...... Mats Zuccarello is suiting up for his 200th NHL game tonight as Rangers host the Blue Jackets.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 6:16 pm EST

Stevie... My 2 favorite episodes were "The Bellero Shield" and "I Robot"... It was also still a pretty good show when they brought it back in the 90's.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 6:08 pm EST

There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to – The Outer Limits.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outer_Limits_(1963_TV_series)

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 6:01 pm EST

Rhet- arguably Dubinsky and Cally in that same two-year span.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:48 pm EST

do not touch your horizontal or your vertical controls .....

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:46 pm EST

Lindburger and a 1st won't fetch Bozak, I'm certain of it. He's the Leafs first line center. Yes I realize he's not really a first line center but he's a decent 2nd line center and would be an excellent 3rd line center with PK and occasional PP duties. He's a strong 2-way player who isn't afraid of hitting, either. I'd have no problems with him in a Ranger jersey, depending of course, what he'd cost. I maintain a first and Miller would do it (meaning the first, as mf says, in 2017). That might get the Leafs attention because they already have the Preds first this June so might like the notion of 2 firsts again next June. All that said, I don't like the idea of moving yet another first and I still don't see this happening because of Hayes.

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:46 pm EST

McQuaid just beat him up

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:45 pm EST

Carcillo trending on twitter

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:45 pm EST

Rhet: Similar to the Twilight Zone and Outer Limits, but mostly focused on paranormal psuedo-science - quite original and good, especially for the pre-Xfiles 1960s. Glad I can still remember it (too many senior citizen moments these days!).

Ranger47


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:41 pm EST

THE Kreider... See if he can also swing a deal to get Chris Higgins back.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:37 pm EST

Ranger47.... I don't remember One Step Beyond. I remember Twilight Zone and Outer Limits but not One Step Beyond. I don't remember it being on as repeats in the 70's :)

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:34 pm EST

Hospo: Cooll - I loved it!

Ranger47


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:34 pm EST

IT'S OFFICIAL: EKLUND reports that the Rangers have shipped HAGUELIN, HAYES, DUCLAIR, and KRISTO to the Maple Leafs for BOZAK.

THE Kreider


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:34 pm EST

worrying about the future with the nyr is basically absurd......they are built to go for it now .....otherwise there will be 75 more years......21 is enough for me....... 2015 ????/1994 /1940 / ......

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:33 pm EST

Sorry Mess:)

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:32 pm EST

Im waiting for NY Public Library to buy a copy. Those secrets lasted decades, they'll last a few more years

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:29 pm EST

And since we mentioned the miracle & books, good hockey books I just love to death. If you ever see the old Don Cherry books, buy them. Laugh out loud funny, and hes way more thoughtful ghan ghe HNIC loud buffoon . He said when they played in russia they gave them short beds, knowing your legs dont rest right hanging off, as everyones did. All kinds of crazy shit, rooms bugged, etc. But he is very funny.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:29 pm EST

Rhet- yes. That was agreement.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:24 pm EST

STEVIE _ You don't want to know..I'll go with Pea Shooters! :)

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:23 pm EST

Ranger47 - That one had me by a few years! I was thinking more MADNESS and One Step Beyond.... like this..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:21 pm EST

Thete are a ton of reasons for the 75 years. Ratelles ankle to.... shit... I could even make the argument in 97, they eere pathetically thin, because they didnt load up enough. Sundstrom got hurt & Churla was on the first line ( and played very well. So did Courtnall. You got Gretz, youre already goin for it, then GO! You get past Filthy youre in the finals with 98 & Leetch & Tichtet and anything can happen. But this team is in a TOTALLY different place. I even forgot Kreider, another guy not going anywhere (ever, hopefully. Asset mngrs - chill the F out lol.Rhet, they drafted Iverson, kids a bull. No doubt they fidnt draft enough widebodies for a long time. But gheyve tried eith MCI and others. Then its up to the kids....Mess one last time ill try to gind middle ground with you on ANYTHING. Said exact same on Behind Moves. Had the fucker in my hands when it came out, didnt want to spring for $79 I think it was then.now its 100+ last I saw. It looked really good too. Guy spent 10 years accumulating it. Guess who last holdout was for an interview?

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:19 pm EST

Mess... You do realize that you had to go back 7-9 years ago. It doesn't really do anything for us today.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:15 pm EST

Rhetoric- Purinton, Hollweg, Ortmeyer, Betts, all within 2006-2008

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:14 pm EST

Hospo is that why I see brooks brothers and slingshot. What do you see Marx brothers and pea shooter?.....be careful what you wish for !

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:10 pm EST

Hey Hospo: Remember One Step Beyond with the freaky/paranormal stuff which it covered? Kind of fitting when talking about the history of the Rangers! :) http://www.tv.com/shows/one-step-beyond/

Ranger47


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:08 pm EST

The biggest issue for us, one of my biggest issues with Sather is the bottom six. You would think keeping a stable of solid bottom six players would be important to us considering we always let them walk.... when was the last time we brought up a physical player from Hartford? Where is our Tanner Glass-type? You know, the same kind of player that Sather continues to sign for too much money every other year, but refuses to learn from those mistakes one after the other. Utter Madness.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:07 pm EST

reminds me, I really want to get my hands on a copy of "Behind the Moves" without paying that exorbitant price

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:02 pm EST

And One Step Beyond!....SCHNEIDW _ There are alot of reasons valid at different times why The Rangers have 1 CUP in 75 years....poor drafting, not tough enough, too many vet mercenaries, can't miss kids busting or being injured,on and on..,..I look back to when we did win..........Home grown studs, youngsters and plenty of vets...A balance still works....Again, it's neither the strategy of going young or going via UFA/tradee vets that hurts/helps teams, it's the proper evaluations of both the youngsters and the avaialble vets to build the best version of each year's team

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:58 pm EST

the season that a kid is ready to step to the top line and match MSL 60 point production is the season that we don't retain MSL. Let MSL walk and push a kid in a first line role before they're ready? which one? Which vet for that matter? No one on our roster not already producing at that level is capable of stepping up to it. Madness.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:53 pm EST

I am sry schneid. Youre always cool. Just a very frustrating convo for me. Ever hear, life passes by while making grand plans for it? Wd dont even have room for more prospects. Maybe one or two if MSL gets shown the doir. Almost EVERYONE else just signed longterm deals. Hank girardi staal mcd brassard nash is locked in 3 more I think. Zuc will get his soon. Hags & step will be renewed.This IS the team. enjoy it. But you cannot worry about the 2022 Rangers before this one. Thats waitin for tmrw yhat never comes.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:48 pm EST

STEVIE - Can't say I get that one! those are determined by your own private searches, you must be doing some research on psychological disorders for some reason..:)..I'll keep what it says under my "spray" command to myself to not further incriminate myself..

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:45 pm EST

Stevie... Does it help with brain farts?

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:45 pm EST

Norstrom, Ferraro and Laperriere would have provided excellent 3rd line, 3rd pairing depth and Kurri, McSorley walked right away, and we were left with Churla who had heart but little else. When we went deeper than everyone thought in the 1997 POs (ECFs) our lack of depth beyond second line, second pairing was obviously our undoing. Great parallel.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:43 pm EST

there's a reason this is being advertised here under spray......http://www.fisherwallace.com/pages/depression-treatment?gclid=CPmLs8zC9sMCFW4Q7AodzUcAkQ

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:40 pm EST

Arghh..... "its important to have strong, fast, cheap young players contributing to the team." They're on the fuckin' team! RIGHT NOW! They need help! Please with the managers playbook already. EVERYONE knows that.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:35 pm EST

RABID- you seem to forget the NYRs have won only one Stanley Cup in the past 75 years... the biggest reason IMHO is not necessarily trading prospects and draft picks, its the NYRs have been mediocre to poor at drafting and developing players... just pointing out that under the salary cap, its important to have strong, fast, cheap young players contributing to the team..I thought we all learned at UFA mercenaries killed this organization and we finally got past that horrid 10 year stretch of hell (remember Mattias Nordstrom??) and here we go again... trading the past 3 #1 picks... and now what is next??

schneidw


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:35 pm EST

I knew Broten. wrong on Johnsson, couldnt believe I was wrong on Morrow (not even close), thats when I looked up. What no one remembers from the Miracle is the Russians had come over and kicked the snot out of the NHL all-stars first. But they had never trailed before. The coach panicked and yanked Tretiak. Thats what the ESPN 30-30 focused on, the ruskies side. Didnt get to see it yet.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:07 pm EST

RABID - Yep, RAMSEY, but you're looking up...go by memory man!"...Yeah. I went with RAMSEY, BROTEN and MORRWO...But missed with the Islander bastard

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:06 pm EST

I had BROTEN, MORROW and Player X..Screwed up on Morrow..

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:05 pm EST

Nah, its Ramsay. Look what else I spotted; for a guy so good, he didnt play long at all. Forgot what happened to him. Back then guys just vanished after a trade. Only boxscores to follow them; "Mark Pavelich played 355 NHL regular season games in the NHL for the New York Rangers, Minnesota North Stars and San Jose Sharks between 1981 and 1992"

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:04 pm EST

RHET - ANother strike!

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:04 pm EST

Rabid - Nope...Nope..and yeah, you guys got Neal BROTEN

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:02 pm EST

oooh Ryan Suter's dad.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:02 pm EST

Umm. Morrow is one. Johnson? Broten?

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:56 pm EST

Rhet- I guess just so it doesn't affect his play, but good point.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:50 pm EST

RHET - Nope, only one of those!

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:48 pm EST

Hospo... Mark Pavelich and Neal Broten are two, right?

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:48 pm EST

STEVIE - I'd rather have another nut job DUNC WILSON out of retirement..He probably ,moves just as well as BRyz..

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:44 pm EST

the only goalie I've seen duck from a slap shot...he did it at least twice....... Rangers Report &#10004; @rangersreport Bryzgalov on waivers. That couldn't happen, could it?

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:43 pm EST

Rangers Report &#10004; @rangersreport Empire State Building to be lit in red, white and blue tonight to honor the Miracle On Ice team. I wish Herbie was still around. :(

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:41 pm EST

OK, TRIVIA QUESTION, no Googling or Binging or whatever...I missed it only got two right.......Name the THREE US OLYMPIANS from the 1980 Miracle on Ice Team to play over ONE THOUSAND NHL Games

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:41 pm EST

MF - Ignoring it.....RABID - I'm not dissing LINDBERGER, I think you and others are devaluing BOZAK and what he is already,,

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:40 pm EST

Btw, whoever said it before, I got the LI jokes. Somebody Bellmore, somebody Wayne Merrick haha.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:40 pm EST

moof was that you being hoisted on the helicopter, and slaughtered at the end? ....cow pie......

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:38 pm EST

Oh god, Thorton was horrible against us. The only guy worse was the other night, Stewart! WTH happened to that guy? kept seeing him laying down behind our net LOL. Or giving the puck away, awful blind passes. Didnt look anything like the guy from Colorado or even StL.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:36 pm EST

and look at Jumbo Joe, he's a movin kinda slow, at the junction....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd9WJNy7B9s

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:32 pm EST

youve never shown Lindberg the proper love LOL. Neither have the Rangers. Guess # 999k ...Lindberg & McIlrath to AZ for Vermette. They want bruising D and drafted Oscar. Who the hell knows anymore. Ive never seen so many names attached to them, they're just flooding the media and probably working on the one guy nobody's mentioned. (Thorton hahaha)

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:30 pm EST

Hospo: meaning they'd ignore it, or accept it?

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:29 pm EST

RABID - totally disagree, don't see Bozak's contract as a huge impediment for getting a deal done..It's a decent contract for whatt he brings...Teams will want him,.if the Leafs actively shop him....Personally,I don't think an offer of LINDBERGER plus a pick would even be thought about for a second

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:27 pm EST

There are teams with plenty of cap room to fit Bozak if we need to turn around & trade him.. There are others that may make to room to fit him in...

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:25 pm EST

Just watched Del Zero score the game winner as the Flyers beat the Capss...Christ, we trade DZ and all we get is this schmuck Klein....Kidding..Love Klein,.but DZ has been playing good hockey lately....The Flyers beat the Preds and Caps in back2back, maybe they are finally getting serious...Be nice to see at least one of the FLyers and Bruins not make the POs, preferably Both, then the Bruins..

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:24 pm EST

RF: sounds like you'd better start heading up to the "high country." take your bong too.. ;-)

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:24 pm EST

and Bozak has a $4+ contract for 3(?) more years no one wants if the guy isnt a top 6 center. Stories I read out of Canada said they wanted a prospect & a pick. What level, who knows. No way do you trade JT and a No. 1 (which we dont have this year). Id' probably cost you a guy like Lindberg + a pick, IF they like him. As we just saw with Staal, these contracts are huge impediments. And its in the buyers interest to wait all week, make the sellers sweat they'll be stuck with these contracts into next year. it's not much easier to move a Bozak at the draft.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:21 pm EST

RF: Sit down for this one, would they take next years 1st (the Sean Day sweepstakes) and Connor Allen, and two or three guys not named: McI, Duke, Buch, Lindberg, Tambolini, Skapski, ??????? (we'd still need to export Glass & his $1.45..... If Toronto is open to it, I'd be more than willing to include some addtional 2nd tier prospects if they'd eat some of Bozak's cap space.... Sather & Co. has show creativity in signing guys from various sources to fill the rosters....

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:20 pm EST

RF4L - I swear to God I didn't see that...Was just thinking and came up with the same damn thing..I'd be VERY WORRIED if I was you...

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:19 pm EST

RF4L - I don't have a clue..I'm thinking it will at least cost MILLER, a #1, and another prospect..with Miller and a #1 being "low"...BOZAK is coming into his prime, controlled for Three years ? (right?), basically a 50 point scorer.. and does a little bit of everything..

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:09 pm EST

IMO, Leafs would want a first and Miller. Something like that.

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:08 pm EST

Hospo: What do you think is 'low'?

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:06 pm EST

I've seen Bozak a lot over the years and he'd be an excellent fit on the Rangers. But given management's love of and commitment to Hayes I cannot see it happening. Unless one of Stepan or Brassard are moved and that's not likely to happen, either.

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:05 pm EST

Hospo... I see Bozak on the 3rd line too... preferably with Miller and Hayes.... Mess.... Why would they need to reassure a guy that has a NMC? The theory was that Jordan would no longer want to be a Cane once Eric was traded(most likely before the draft) and would agree to a trade. Also, team's quite often reassure guys before they deal them.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:05 pm EST

MF - If you can get BOZAK "low" I'm all with ya...Just don't see it happening..Just as with Vermette, there will be other teams bidding and raising the price...Even worse about Bozak, is that if TOR doesn't like any of the offers, they'll just close up and wait till the off-season...VERMETTE, otoh, has to go by the deaadline...Hopefully, this coming week is very interesting..

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:01 pm EST

RR: read an article which addresses Bozak's production while on a line with Kessel vs not playing with Kessel... No shock, his production dipped when not with Kessel.... An important point though, is that on the NYR's, he would not need to be the first line center which "may" prove to be better for him... In the event Stepan or Brass go down or need a maintenance day, we'd have a guy who's been there and can fill in........ Me's a thinkin that if we have him on a top two line, which player is moving to the 3rd line??? (Laundry time)

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:53 pm EST

MF, a few years ago Bozak was scoring big goals for them. Down the stretch, I remember maybe 4-5 games in a row. Passionate player from what I can recollect. He'd be interesting here if he got in the flow with some of our guys. Whoever said their memory goes in & out, I get that too!

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:52 pm EST

Nobody wants Staal's insane contract. How Rutherford has kept a job all these years is mind-numbing. Obviously thought there was more offensive upside there and figured he was getting Erik Staal II for 10 years, $60m, rather than modest offensive output and a good defensive pivot. So they tried and no one bites and they reassure the player, SOP, he'll be in Carolina hockey hell a while longer LOL. But thats not why my little friend rushed that blurb up there, but we're lookin past it! Staal was never available! Canes never considered it, course not.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:49 pm EST

Hospo: Vermette vs Bozak: Seems like AZ wants to "sell high" for a renatal, and, Toronto is willing to "sell low" for a guy with plenty of term left on his contract..... The money differential is $3.75mill for LHS Vermette, $4.2mill for the 3.5 years younger RHS Bozak..... I'd go Bozak.... I'd try to land Bozak (jmon)

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:43 pm EST

MF - I see BOZAK as too big of a fish for Sather before the deadline, BUT if he does land him and STEP/BRASS stay, BOZAK plays 3rd line for the remainder of the year and takes the FOs..And if you get BOZAK,, I see no reason to get a guy like McClement (or somebiody of his ilk) just to take FOs when you have MOORE..(BTW, most of the above also stands for VERMETTE although he would likely be a rental that costs less..but still high)

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:37 pm EST

or, a 3rd line of Bozak / Hayes / Hags with Bozak on the draws, and it gives us a RHS on that line.... Again, Bozak could get additional minutes on the PP playing the LW with that RHS..... Career-wise, he has scored 1/3rd of his points on the PP.....

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:31 pm EST

Rhet, not a worry in the least, "Rock - on !" (Essex) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVaLE4TTbwI

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:30 pm EST

BTW, I noticed the Pack added a guy named Tyler Brown recently and 14 games he's got 4 goals and 9 points (and is a +4). He just turned 25 so I'm assuming he's AHL fodder only.

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:29 pm EST

Hospo: From a "trying to figure out the F/O's dilemma" context & heeding VIC's breakdown of offensive zone & defensive zone faceoffs I'm convinced that the dollars could work for Bozak & Mcclement..... This would give us McClement on the 4th with DMoore & Fast / Miller...... However, Shifting Miller to the 4th line with DMoore for defensive zone draws addresses the same issues as having McClement... So, thinking out loud it just may be overkill... Brings me back to Bozak: which line to slot him in Stepan's or Brassards, and who gets moved where????

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:28 pm EST

@TSNAaronWard Amid Jordan Staal trade rumors, I am told he has been reassured today, by the team, that this speculation is unfounded. #TSN

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:27 pm EST

Sorry MF, Didn't mean it to come out that way. I forget stuff that I know all the time. Sometimes it comes back, sometimes not so much :)

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:21 pm EST

Zip: Talbot, Moore in. Maybe McElinhey in net

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:17 pm EST

I could see McI and Allen adding value to a trade...

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:16 pm EST

on the speculative side, if the Pack doesnt have an injury, maybe one of our AHL pending FA Ds (Kostka, McI, Allen, Bodie) are involved in a trade

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:16 pm EST

MF - No wonder you made it into the CJ's, you've had formal training...Shoulda known

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:14 pm EST

Hah, I meant 2 years "REMAINING" ........ but while REAMING Ranger fans all the while....

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:14 pm EST

RHET: That much I know, they taught it at the CJC, The Clueless Jewish Center. ;-)

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:13 pm EST

Queens native, Boston U product, has been with Greenville

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:13 pm EST

KID K - No need to worry..He is..1) an AV favorite and 2) IUnradeable to anybody else with 3 mill and 2 more years reamining....Get used to him..

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:11 pm EST

Zip- Pack signs D Sean Escobado to PTO

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:07 pm EST

TRADESTAR - I felt the same way about FAST for the longest time, but the more i watched him midway in the season, the kid does a little bit of everything, has talent, and hits every chance he gets...Now, he's not nasty or huge, and we all want one of those, but that's not the Ranger style.....He won me over...Doesn't mean I think he's a 3rd liner or has to play every single game, but really good to have and over Glass and Stemp any time....but I also wouldn't hesitate a NY second to deal him if that' the player that's wanted..

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:06 pm EST

As long as GLASS isn't traded from this team, I'm good with any other moves.

THE Kreider


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:04 pm EST

EKLUND now reporting that KLEIN, HAYES, MILLER, and BUCH are headed west in exchange for GLENCROSS

THE Kreider


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:01 pm EST

Kenny Hodge! I saw it! (Without even noting the poster). 1976!!! 40 years ago!! Lol... Hey, you know whats happened to about 90% of prospects since then? They never played a single NHL game.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:57 pm EST

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Dom Moore is moved after training camp next season, provided that Lindberg can make the step up or we can add a solid 3C, shifting Hayes down to 4th.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:55 pm EST

Call me crazy ....but Jesper Fast doesn't cut it for me.....I am not sure if its his silly name or just his play in the ice......but when I think of teams that win Cups....like last years LA KINGS and how they had a 3rd and 4th that was just so fuckin solid and tough with guys like Justin Williams, Dwight King, Jarrett Stoll , Tyler Tofoli and Mike Richards...........the allure of Jesper Fast(h) doesn't tickle my ballz........

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:54 pm EST

SCHNEIDW - Wait a second, I don't think we are far off on all things..... Yes, it takes a whiile for kids to convince me and i do have a preference for vet expereince in some roles for a CUP CONTENDING TEAM, but I still want the better player....I have seen enough of FAST and MILLER to know that I want them over STEMP and GLASS ....OTOH I don't think they, along with HAYES, are the answer for the 3rd line to WIN the POs..I would love Miller (if not traded) with Fast and Moore on the 4th line with Hags and HAYES supported by a versatile vet forward that can also win FOs...

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:51 pm EST

MF... Bozak can stay on wing and take faceoffs. Even a Defenseman can take a faceoff.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:49 pm EST

Rhet- agreed, but Id give Lindberg a shot too. RFA Allen is 25 now, if he isn't ready now, he isn't going to be retained.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:47 pm EST

Mess... I'm not really too thrilled with our "options." I'm hoping we stand pat if we get outbid for some of the better guys. I'd much rather watch Conor Allen and Mueller play than some of the names being mentioned.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:47 pm EST

SKJEI is our LHS top prospect in the system as of now.... To throw another name out here, Carolina's UFA Tim Gleason (LHS) has a cap hit of $1.2mill

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:42 pm EST

Another Cap-go-round post: Capgeek had us at $2.6 mill at this year’s trade-deadline.. Export Glass (+$1.45mill) Stempniak (+$900K) gives us $4.95mill…….. Tyler Bozak’S Caphit is $4.2mill, McClement’s is $1mill for a toal of $5.2mill…… “IF” these numbers are accurate, we’d need one of the two trade partners to eat $250K for this season only to make this work dollar-wise… Player-wise is another story………. Dollar-wise, we could fit Bozak if we just move Glass & get Toronto to eat $200K for this season…….. These numbers don’t take into account that I believe Anthony Duclair was on the roster at the time & he carries a cap hit of $772,500, so we just may have, “room to move!” ;-) ………. The next couple of hurdles I see are, does the organization view the F/O #’s as problematic as has been discussed here on the Wall? …. Does the organization feel that a contract of BOZAK’S size $4.2mill per (for 3 years after this) is totally off the charts? ….. “”What would our line configurations look like with BOZAK on the roster???”” ….. Can Bozak take the F/O and shift to the wing and be effective???? …. Looking at this last question also prompts me to once again point out that we have not seen Hayes on the wing… (yeah yeah, we’ve heard all the references about the organization seeing Hayes as a center, but the guys running the show are not dummies, they can think outside of the box)……… From what I glossed over the last 24 hours, seems like Toronto is not expecting too much for Bozak, do we have enough of what they want to obtain him? Enough of what they want to get them to eat some salary for the duration of his contract?? Possible line configs to follow, aren’t you folks lucky? ;-)

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:40 pm EST

schneid- before Fast went out, he was challenging Glass for most hits on nightly basis. Miller has shown same propensity. Both have more legs than Glass or Stemp in their primes. Glass doesn't even have 1/4 the hands of Miller. Hayes getting better and better but that a position we could potentially get better, shift Hayes over for a few months. Either way.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:40 pm EST

Every team has "untouchable" prospects-the key is knowing which ones to give that tag to. Duclair had a monster year in the Q last year, had a good camp for NYR this year for the most part, but has a lot of learning to do still, especially his play without the puck. Look at JT Miller, who was a first rounder, it's taken him several years to learn that part of the game. Hockey, and sports in general, require making adjustments as you make the transition to more competitive leagues. The moves that made him offensively successful in juniors don't necessarily work at the NHL level, and maybe not even at the AHL level, where he will most likely play next season. That said, I think he will be a good player in this league in a few years and part of the future, and it would be a huge gamble to throw him, or Buch, away so early, especially for some veteran help at the deadline. Especially when we gave up 2 firsts for Marty last year, we will feel a loss of top prospects going forward in 2 or 3 years if we part with the Duke or Buch here. Just the opinion of a fan who has seen this mistake made by the NYR too many times.

puckyou


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:37 pm EST

HOSPO_ It goes without saying I still respect your opinions... I just like growing organizations from within...that's all...

schneidw


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:36 pm EST

HOSPO- you are always clear in your preference for playing veterans...we just respectfully disagree... For example, I think Fast, Miller and Hayes have produced more than Stempiak, Glass... they have greater upside, cheaper salaries and are growing for the next development phase... I have up on trading for vets after Ken Hodge debacle... plus, name one player that is even available right now worth the price of giving up prospects and picks... outside of Vermette, most of the names I keep seeing are no better than Stempiak or Glass anyways...

schneidw


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:34 pm EST

also, Bellmore is a righty

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:33 pm EST

Rhet- I really hope not. Bellemore and Hejda don't even fit our system and this org has done pretty great things with 2nd rounders as of late

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:32 pm EST

They haven't talked much about Skjei either, but he's our top D prospect. Tambellini just turned 20 (already 6' 3") and posting great numbers in WHL. Not everyone is going to get the attention Buch and Duke have

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:30 pm EST

Hospo.... I'm not sure why he mentioned Kristo. The kid is on his last legs with the organization and has little to no trade value, He did however also mention that we don't have a shot at Carolina's Andrej Sekera, Edmonton's Jeff Petry and Arizona's Zbynek Michalek as they will command too high a price for the Rangers, given the competition and the thin market for defensemen.... One of our second-rounders could be moved for a depth defensemen such as, Colorado's Jan Hejda and Carolina's Brett Bellmore, a 6-4 stay-at-home D-man, who are "apparently are on the radar."

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:26 pm EST

I wonder what the Ranger brass think of Tambellini. So far, they've been quite quiet about him. I wonder if until part-way thru this season they considered him at B prospect. If so, are they still thinking that now?

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:25 pm EST

JCF: It was actually Vic who posed that theory about McI. I then floated the same meanderings about J Moore. Both are RFAs this summer.

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:22 pm EST

Were turning over every stone for a C with face-off skills and at least third-line production….Tambellini and Iverson are our only C prospects after Lindberg

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:18 pm EST

Brodziak, et al is not going to be a difference maker, not going to bring Staal's 20/20 back

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:17 pm EST

the difference between four prospects and every prospect is a very wide gap

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:14 pm EST

Jesus. If you make every prospect off-limits you get bubkas in the way of help At the deadline. Then guys like Staal, whove been blinded in one eye trying to help this franchise, and guys like Girardi (who sacrificed his body like no player ive ever seen) get no help. Are they not deserving of some? Sorry but still think people have the whole win/prospect equation upside down. Certainly this year.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:56 pm EST

tonights game should be interesting

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:50 pm EST

MetamuciLegs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXVGQnJm0w

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:49 pm EST

Let's Go Rangers!

jkropp


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:33 pm EST

Bryzgalov on waivers. Just say "no" Glen, just say "no."

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:30 pm EST

STEVIE/JFC - I'm all for the increased WALL Fiber diet, ...otherwise it's last resort time with the TOBIAS Enema...and we don't want that

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:25 pm EST

York -- that's why I said he may start in the AHL next year....hard to,duplicate lightning in a bottle,2 camps in a row.,and it wouldn't surprise me to see him brought up for,the POs because AV is in love with him and might want the offensive potential that Duclair represents. The kid seems to thrive on being challenged (like in camp this year) and perhaps AV might think he'd have a Kreider-like PO hot streak. Who knows? We'll see.

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:21 pm EST

Also thinking about young/inexpensive players....seems to me that "solid" is going to be hugely important for the Rangers in terms of player evaluation. If they are going to save $$ by using young players at the NHL level, it will be hugely important that,,at minimum, they are not a liability. A guy like Lindberg is a good example....Fast, too. So, maybe they don't set the world on fire with their talent, but they are "solid" players...well trained, smart, play all 3 zones. Players like that can always be used at the NHL level and, when they are, can sometimes end up developing a higher end than what it appears they have. Seems to me that a good team-building concept in the cap,era would be to nurture players who show maturity and smarts and are "solid" enough to,play bottom 6 at the NHL level....use,those guys to,save $$$ to pay for top 6 and top 4.

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:20 pm EST

Jfc duclair Since being sent down has shown nothing to say he will make the team next year and nothing to deserve playoff time this year. He should be dominating instead he's a passenger in a way lower league.

York18


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:18 pm EST

Id add Tambellini to that list of untouchables. //// Malcolm is good, and he is only lowest rung on goalie development ladder behind Talbot, Skapski, Halverson, Shesturkin. What was once a deficient position organizationally, has quickly and quietly been turned into one of strength.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:17 pm EST

Wrath would have been perfect under torts system and was being groomed for that av has a different style and wrath doesn't truly fit in just yet but maybe adjustments are made.

York18


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:13 pm EST

Spell check madness...pa.ranger

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:12 pm EST

part.ranger -- great scouting report, much appreciated. Seems to me that we've got a bunch of kids who are ready to fill in a great many holes in this organization next year, whether it be in Hartford or NY. Why the hell can't Wrath be with the big boys next year, even if it's as a 7th D man to,start? He'll be inexpensive and he'll learn on the job and develop. If Duclair doesn't have a camp that wows everyone next year, he'll be able to start at Hartford. Not sure if that's the case with Buch, but I think Skeij will also be eligible for AHL. RF4L had posted a few days ago that maybe that's the plan for Wrath all along. Who knows. Young, talented players who have controllable,salaries are going to be all the rage in the NHL and the Rangers seem to be well positioned. This season's 18 game stint for Duke will pay dividends big time next year....and he might even get some PO time....here's hoping thenRamparts get knocked out early. He'll be way ahead of,the curve because of his experiences this season. STEVIE -- what can I say....you're on fire today! Loved the post about The Wall getting some fiber....really clever writing....loved it.

JFC31


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:07 pm EST

Per Steve Zipay..... John Moore was on ice, and in fact, will start. Hunwick and Fast last players on ice.... AV: Fast should be able to participate in full practice this week.... AV: Lundqvist skated again today; says he didn't use Boyle on 5-on-3 with four lefties vs Buffalo because St. Louis had practiced there.... In discussing 6th d rotation, AV says both Moore and Hunwick have played "about the same"....AV: but may come to the point where one will play more. "That point has not come...still a couple days before the trade deadline."

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:58 am EST

Hospo.., fair enough paisano! I believe you and I do this dance often.

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:56 am EST

pa.rangersfan - Not really disagreeing with your evaluation of the players at all...It was similar to mine about three weeks ago....LINDBERGER was by far the best forward and I thought MCi was just fine in all aspects and was fast enought for the AHL..I think it's worth giving him a shot with the RANGERS but, what i'm saying is that, THE RANGERS and AV DON'T THINK SO for their style of game..Or else he would be up.......Were we disagree is what is needed to help this very good Ranger team win the cup..I don't think LINDBERGER or MILLER are the answer and HAYES will need help..IN THE POs....Just ONE versatile FO winning 3rd line VET forward will go a long way...and I have no problem giving up prospects or picks, to some degree..

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:48 am EST

stevie.., well said.

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:47 am EST

pa all you need here is a little humor, instead of just stats.....opinions are what they are....big mac is my type of d man, but not veenyo's. and the history of guys like him on the nyr has been they get injured and their careers' are over......hopefully Sather will shove big mac down his throat, sooner rather than later.....I'd rather have him as the spare d over dinty Moore or Attila the Hun.....and the way boyle is disintegrating maybe even over him.....

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:39 am EST

Hospo.., so you won't be asking me for anymore scouting reports? Just know what I saw my friend. I know you just wanna win and that's cool, I think the consensus would agree. AV knows a hell of alot more about the game than I do for sure but he's doing a dis-service to his Team if he isn't seriously trying to find a way to get Big Mac onto the roster for next Season, plain and simple. I also agree with stevie, this Team is close as constituted now, sans a solid FO man. Absolutely no need to funnel quality, young talent away to get that need. stevie.., one of the funniest posts I've ever read here!

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:34 am EST

RHET - KRISTO and others avaialble for te right return??..What, an assistant locker room manger and a bag of pucks? .But, I do agree on DUC, BUCH and SKEJ being the only untoucables..

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:31 am EST

SCNEIDW - I don't care too much about young players, I just want the players that help this team win....We already have Kreider, Hayes, at least one of Fast/Miller..It's not about adding young players, it's about adding players that can shore up their weaknesses and give them a better chance of winning every night.....MCilrath does not do that for AV and his system

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:29 am EST

my attempt to make an analogy..... I went to a game a few years ago ate at the play by play at msg, which isn't there anymore. after the game I went back there to use the men's room. the line wasn't to bad compared to the others. But there was a guy in the stall stinking the room out. The barbs started out loud. Including hey pal try more fiber. How about a courtesy flush?..to quote 2.....the laughter made it bearable. I thought ' argh hulk'......so may I suggest more fiber and a courtesy flush for the wall.....oh wait here comes wildcard to disagree.....alias mr positivity......as far as I'm concerned, the NYR can stand pat and be a contender to get back to the finals and win it all, while most here didn't believe last season, and don't this season....but they are far from perfect, and being 'lovers instead of fighters' will not be helpful in the quest......so sather 'mr never tough enough' needs to try and fix that......with a guy who can take face-offs and win 50+% of them and sticks up for his teammates .....if he can......maybe it was him in that stall....lol......

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:29 am EST

schneid.., very familiar with the Hershey deal. KIS took my son earlier in the Season to the Pack game there. I had a ticket myself but my father-in-law suffered a massive stroke the morning of the game. As for A-Town, the Phantoms are the Flyer AHL affiliate, as I'm sure you know. The new arena is in the center of town if you are familiar. It's called the PPL Center. A beautiful place to see a game for sure. A complete experience with lots of places to eat, grab a brew, hang out. The Scranton/Wilkes Barre affiliate of the Pens is within reasonable driving distance also if I want to check out the Pack. The kid I failed to mention was less than impressive also was Haggerty. Showed nothing.

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:27 am EST

Zipay also notes that the Rangers will not part ways with their top three prospects: Anthony Duclair, Pavel Buchnevich, or Brady Skjei. Zip says Danny Kristo and others in the AHL are available for the right return.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:24 am EST

Rabid- It wasn't too long ago that Mike Sauer followed the same slow development curve and was growing into a top pair defenseman when Phaneuff ended his career... patience

schneidw


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:24 am EST

"Brett Bellmore, Torey Mitchell, James Sheppard others named by Zippay."...Ah..the dumpster dive specials! Say it ain't so Sather..This team has a real chance...Give the players what they need and derserve--a versatile, verifable FO winning 3rd liner (at worst) to win the Cup...This bottom of the barrel scum won't mean squat...JMWO....SHould be a good game tonight...CBJ outplayed MTL last night but gotta stoned..theyy should be a little pissed

Hospo


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:23 am EST

Jesper Fast skating today in a non-contact jersey. Per Steve Zipay.... Don't immediately see John Moore on ice, checking again

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:23 am EST

McIlrath: I agree w PA Ranger... you find a spot for prospects that will be the next generation... I know everybody has the annual trade fever because of the deadline and desire to return to the Stanley Cup Finals.. I know I am in the minority to think young players can contribute in the playoffs... that 1994 stockpiling of EDM veterans was an anomaly and not a strategy that any sane GM should follow in today's day of salary cap... The past few cup winners all had young players contributing... last year.. Tiffolli for example last year...

schneidw


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:23 am EST

Never an argument from me there p.a. We all badly wanted mcilrath to be, if not ghe next Bueke, something close. But lets be honest. This kid was drafted 2010. Its 2015 and coack Kostka'd him how many times? anybody else wed be calling it a busted pick. D men take longet blah blah.... i still think he'll be useful and make the league. I said try yo deal for him when hes 27-28. Theres no room and he nerds more time . Zip today in a CVCowned paper listen untouchables. No mci. I heard same last week and said so. Just think right deal hes a trade chip right now.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:22 am EST

Rabid......Brett Bellmore...? Who else are the Rangers interested in? Wayne Merrick? (some silly Nassau County South Shore humor)................Anywayz....everytime the Rangers play the Canes, Bellmore is the one guy i wanna kick through my tv because he is always looking to rough up our better players.....Maybe that would change if he was doing it for us.......hehe

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:18 am EST

pa.Ranger.FAN: Kudos... back in the day when I lived in PA we took in some Hershey Bear games... I almost enjoyed the AHL games as much as the NHL games simply more accessible and not so many "suit-douches" at the games.... WIKI the Bears some time, a great hockey history... started in 1930s... cool stuff.... I don't recall a team in Allentown...did that happen recently? DId they build a new rink up there?

schneidw


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:14 am EST

RR.., fair enough but when an organization has a "unique" talent, and I stress talent, like Big Mac; you make room! The kid stands alone, at least in the Ranger organization, with his skill set. Head Tool Brooks even lamented the lack of response on behalf of the league MVP to Bogo-sian the other nite.

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:09 am EST

RF.., 10-4, what I failed to mention was the fact that the good guys were well represented in Allentown,PA. of all places! There was a boat-load of Ranger jerseys amongst the roughly 9,000 in attendance. KIS and myself joked about how we were scouting on behalf of the wall! Too funny, two of the most clue-less jack-asses here! Anyway, after Lindberg scored the beauty in OT, we just glanced in the direction of two other Ranger fans sitting a few seats down and just gave the "nod" and shook hands on the way out with them and others of our "ilk." At the end of day, here and everywhere, we are all Ranger fans.

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:06 am EST

Good to hear on McIlrath. Hopefully Calgary scouts are seeing the same thing. If this year showed anything, with all the D injuries, its that MCI is way down the chart and AV has no use for him. Gimme back a decent pick and Glencross and they can have him. Theres nowhere for him to play next year either.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 11:01 am EST

pa.ranger: I went back to read your Pack post - never saw it because I glossed past all the posts from yesterday after I said my piece because so much of them were more of the same silliness. Nice to read.

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:52 am EST

schneid.., I didn't want to get too long winded with my previous post but I thought the kid looked great. The Fan-tomes tried numerous times to goad him into taking penalties and he showed maturity and restraint. Even the usual dirt bag suspects on their roster wanted no part of him other than some short chirping. He is a commanding presence on the ice and aside from the reaching with the stick I mentioned earlier, he can be a "persuasive" physical force. I got a close look at him and even his face has that "imposing" look! He's got a little crazy in him for sure. I am in full man-crush mode.

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:43 am EST

schneid.., spot on.

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:43 am EST

pa.RANGER.fan: dude, your positive post on McIlrath made my day... I haven't wanted a NYR prospect to develop as badly as this kid since Tomas Kloucek came out of know where.... thanks!

schneidw


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:40 am EST

ZUCCARELLO: I like the ZUCC as a player and teammate and what he bring with his energy, skill and hustle BUT I hope SATHER sticks to his guns and doesn't kill the NYRs already bad salary cap situation by overpaying for ZUCC... the fact remains he is nearly 28YO and has ONLY scored 12 goals playing first line minutes and ample power play time..... IMHO, he only work $3.5M./yr for that production... tops! Lets not forget, he has ONLY chipped in 6 goals in 38 career playoff games... I think he has topped out....

schneidw


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:23 am EST

RR.., a little paranoid? Never referred to you by name. What's a firtbag?

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:22 am EST

Hole at 3rd line RW

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:20 am EST

Speaking of lack of physicality, interesting...Randy Sportak from Calgary Sun handicapped teams for Glencross (w/o knowing his list). Mentions nyr hole at 3rd line and wonders if thats why Flames recebtly tried Glencross on opposite side.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:16 am EST

FWIW, I'm worried about tonight's game from a physical abuse standpoint. Yeah, I realize its a bit of a broken record coming from me but I think it's a legitimate concern. It's why I disagree with those who want to jettison Glass. He's the only player on the roster willing to actually stand up for his mates.

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:13 am EST

Think Malcom got in a preseason game or two. Dont remember anything more. At least not in coffe place where I am. Theyve got Celine Dion blasting, and you know, kill me.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:05 am EST

Jeff Malcolm in net for both wins and did a credible job seeing as the Pack were outshot in both. Don't know much about this kid but assumed he was AHL fodder only. Could be wrong - imagine if so - the Rangers go from no goalie strength behind the King to having an over-abundance.

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:01 am EST

Rabid no problem truce

York18


Sun Feb 22 2015 10:00 am EST

EKLUND writes that the Rangers are willing to part ways with BRASSARD, ZUCARELLO, HAYES, MILLER, and DUCLAIR ... in exchange for E STAAL and SEKERA.

THE Kreider


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:50 am EST

Lindberg making a case for a promotion? 3 goals and an assist in 2 weekend Pack wins so far (with another game set for today). Nice.

RF4L


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:49 am EST

Kyle Brodziak other new name Zip had.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:40 am EST

Brett Bellmore, Torey Mitchell, James Sheppard others named by Zippay.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:35 am EST

York played all my life and can barely move thanks to it (it was worth it). But I definitely got it on with the catalog too! Lol. now can we plz call a truce, at least for today? Let people enjoy their Sunday.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:31 am EST

Just too a peak at newsday print. Zip actually had a goid deadline workup, some new names of interest (Eric Condra), said Glencross would be their top for wing. Said one no. 2 and Kristo in play, but said top 3 prospects (Duke. Skjei. Buch u/a). Ahem. Should sound familiar ha. Gotta take another look for more names. Not paying $4.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:27 am EST

Rabid I noticed when everyone else was posting about playing hockey in their youth you had nothing to post. That's because you were busy in the bathroom playing with the lingerie catalog from sears because that's the only wooden stick you played with. Roflmao lmao cslmao I'd throw in more just to annoy you but thats it. I think since I blew up your spot here we will give you a knew name spanky instead of clownfish

York18


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:16 am EST

And there it is! The alternative screen name accusation! Last refuge of a firtbag. I dont need another screen name for 'cred' or anything else. Beat youse any way you want it. Just little old me.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:14 am EST

Sho repeating even if you win in today's NHL is rare. What is good is the same half dozen teams seam to be at the tops year in and out and the rangers are actually in the top three of those six. I also think they may be due since they have been knocking on the door the last few years. Ita a long season though and to go to the finals and then return is a lot of hockey.

York18


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:13 am EST

Jeez Stevie, whered ya find that? Dont want Dubi anywhere near this team. Though Id have to say if hes grown up enough & came cheap enough hes no riskier than the Bozak types. He always stood up, gotta give him that. Friedman said Glencross' list includes 8 teams, Rangers not mentioned. Includes doesnt mean only 8. Hes my top choice for a banging winger with hands but my hopes have never been high we'd get him.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 9:01 am EST

" The Rangers are the hockey equivalent of the young man (or woman) who fancies himself (herself) a lover, not a fighter. But the Rangers cannot allow Nash to be physically abused. That is beginning now, with star-fighter Brandon Dubinsky (you may have heard of him) in tow."

stevielegs


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:54 am EST

Tradestar: Spot on about snobbish posts not that it matters coming from me but...I have lurked this board over 13 years and give a couple of posts a year. You guys usually cover everything good and bad so there is usually nothing to ever add but...This team is almost 20 games over 500 and the only reason they are trailing in the standings is because they have played 2 fewer games then almost everyone. What the hell is everyone mad at??? Also , recent history shows most finals runner up usually crap the bed the following year. This board has become one newer posters vent against society anyway. He would have been booted out during the pre lockout era the first week.

shonuff


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:17 am EST

Since I'm here, I'll play along for a spell also. Seeing some "new" posters here again. I guess the well never runs dry when attempting to gain "cred." I've had a go with a few here on numerous occasions and the bottom line is; the cat's who know their shit, know their shit! For the record, I'm 47, a Clueless Jack-ass member, and have been coming here since 1999.

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 8:07 am EST

mf..,Throw me into the Bozak mix also. I felt he would've been a great hire when he went UFA a few seasons back. KIS and I took in the Pack game here in A-Town as you know last evening. Prolly not much to add to assessments made by others here who follow more closely but I will add my 2 bits for what it's worth. I saw TWO players who I feel could be Rangers in the very near future, as in next season. Lindberg is the real deal, he is quick, smart positionally and has some grit to his game. I fail to see what Stempniak does that Lindberg doesn't tbh. The other player is BIG MAC!.The boy is a beast! He's not ready now but will be soon with some of the fine tuning that has been mentioned here. My take is that he's physical enough at times! He has a really long reach with his stick which he appears to rely on a bit much. It compromises his positioning, a bit more patience and he could actually take the man if you ask me. I saw little if any issue with his skating, he made excellent first passes out of the D-zone and laid 3 or 4, can't remember exactly, bone-crushing hits. One was right in front of us and even the Fan-tome fans went whoaa!!! I love him!! He would be a fan icon of epic proportion. I sincerely hope Sather keeps his wits on this kid, the Rangers NEED him. Other than that, not much. Kristo, the Bourque's; meh. The big disappointment is the Vaive kid, he's huge but completely invisible. The other D-Men are soft and mistake prone, and that includes Allen and Kostka. The kid in goal, Malcolm, played a solid game as the the "Flank Steaks" peppered him a few times. Sorry for the Despo-lite post but I figured I owed to the war-weary board.

pa.rangersfan


Sun Feb 22 2015 6:56 am EST

Ckownfish What now you like TD make up your mind first you say we agree on most things hockey but how could we if I don't talk hockey? As for decency you want some try showing some to the people on the board before you ask for any and you're not the champion of the board because we both know where the new names are coming from.

York18


Sun Feb 22 2015 5:51 am EST

And yeah, Yuk10, decency. A new guy shows up you dont even say hello before you start with uncalled for language and your stupid roflmao crap. And thats nowhere near the same thing as when I curse you dirtbags. We know each other & its deserved. I will never tolerate the b.s. you guys try to pull. You & Mess are way worse than TD ever was. At least he talked hockey, a lot. All you do is look to manipulate the board.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:50 am EST

If Bokak makes 4.3 and Rangers would be on hook for 1/3 cap hit remainder of way, why is that 'exceedingly tough'? Cause people dont know WTF they re talking about? Must be, cause Leafs are giving him away to get out from under term. relativy speaking. Which some dobt understand either. Im suppised to school their uneducated ass on everything.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 4:45 am EST

Hmmm.. Jordan Staal on the block? Only been talking about that for a week when no one was. That was right after calling the biggest trade of the year. But that doesnt count for some. People were talkin about it elsewhere. Im supposed to have exclusives dammit, even the GMs cant know lol. Kiss my butt. I take time & energy to bring it here, so I can get me some grief. Great deal for me. Now Staal (and Sekera, a combo I mentioned about ten times), IDK we're still in. Id guess so till hes moved, but total guess. Bozak might seem a much better option to avoid Staals contract, but for strong smart defensive-minded center, Staals the choice. Said last month Eric to Toronto and still say odds-on if he goes anywhere (might take till draft) its there. Thatd be something, both Staals outta N.C..inevitable. they have to $hed. I eont even respond to some of the other stupidity I saw.

Rabid Ranger


Sun Feb 22 2015 3:33 am EST

It'd be exceedingly tough to fit Bozak alone in without moving another player that we'd also count on in the POs. McClement is overkill, but probably crossing the line into the impossible. Keep in mind, Bozak alone is improbable to say the least, but we don't even know what they're asking. McClement takes a spot on the fourth away from Miller or Fast. Both of which I think are cheaper, both are faster, both have more offensive upside, and both are hitting machines. Adding McClement at the expense of one of them is subtraction by addition, IMO, let alone the cap squeeze, let alone the asking price.

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:42 am EST

I lobbied hard here for Bozak last week as others threw their wishlists out here, and the conversation naturally went to CAP Space at the TD & for next year.... What intrigued me is the combination of reasonable salary in dollars & term, RHS, played substantial % of his TOI with Kessel, so he should blend with our up tempo / AV system, could be sloted in on the PP on the LW with the RHS, and could alleviate our F/O dilemma on the top two lines which VIC broke down in an interesting way... If we can outsource Glass & Stempniak I think we could actually afford him and McClement for the trade deadline.... Issues: What's he gonna cost us? How are we going to fit him into the Cap next season & get our guys resigned? I guess we could always trade him after the season.

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:14 am EST

http://nypost.com/2015/02/21/the-rangers-misuse-of-dan-boyle-that-betrays-his-purpose/

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:14 am EST

Im down for Bozak, but it all comes down to what Toronto wants and if we can move Glass, Stempniak to clear salary

Messier11


Sun Feb 22 2015 2:11 am EST

MF.... Count me in on Bozak. He's exactly the kind of player you want for a playoff run. Though I'm still skeptical we add a lot of $$$ at the deadline.

Rhet0ric


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:50 am EST

Tyler Bozak won 17 of 26 faceoffs (65%) vs Winnipeg yesterday... he's 3rd in the league in total F/O's taken, and winning 51.2% of them... He's also a RHS & carries a salary cap hit of $4.2 mill for 3 years after this one..... http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?fetchKey=20152ALLSASALL&sort=faceOffsWon&viewName=faceOffPercentageAll

mf


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:18 am EST

RR say what you want. I dont need to get into BS with you. you say some good things but when you go back to being clown fish you are just an ass. I like coming onto the wall for info , rumors and entertainment. I understand who was a true player and who was a true player in their mind. I'm glad you come on this board to validate your huge amount of knowledge. I'm so happy that you are one of the people I know I will always find on here spouting off about what they know. good for you.

KIS


Sun Feb 22 2015 1:09 am EST

I think we Rangers fans have turned a bit into snobs......THE NYR's are up close to the top of the NHL in wins; the NYR's also are up at the top in regard to having fewest losses (16).......Furthermore, the NYR's are #1 in Eastern Conference in goal differential (+39) and just second to St. Louis who are +40. The NYR's are #3 overall in Goals For.....and #4 overall in Goals Against. The NYR's have the 2nd best road record in the NHL. The NYR's have a Power play that is not #25,26,27,28,29,30th overall.... Its actually 12th overall (18.9%).....The 10th overall PK is a downgrade from the last 5 years probably...... Now this is the case after losing 5 regulars from last years squad and filing them in with guys like fuckin Tanner Glass and Lee Stemp. Also, we claim that the Rangers don't have a good 4th line. And lastly, the NYR's are playing with a backup goalie for the last 3 weeks...... So whats the story with this 2014-15 NYR's team? Do they have a chance in hell and do they deserve a little more credit? ; -)

TradeStar28


Sun Feb 22 2015 12:14 am EST

interesting article on Bergenheim, includes references to advanced stats... http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/why-sean-bergenheim-should-be-on-every-gms-wish-list/

mf