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Sat Apr 30 2016 1:33 pm EST

Not to get too far ahead of things but by miracle if the Isles came out of the east I wouldn't like them over SJ, or St. Louis. They'd match better against Dallas or Nashville. But I'm sticking to the Caps over SJ.

E


Sat Apr 30 2016 12:29 pm EST

Drew...All I know is the bettings sites predictwise.com has the Caps to win it all and its' been that way all season. After the Caps comes the Sharks, Dallas, Blues, Pens, Ilses, Bolts, in that order. How accurate have they been ??? I dunno. But people who are betting their money are going in that order.

WIOSA


Sat Apr 30 2016 12:03 pm EST

Here’s the deal as I understand it…Back in the day the Pens & their ownership were on the verge of bankruptcy…on top of that and additionally, the Pens still owed Mario a shitload of contract money they also did not have… The league, to save face from another team going down the toilet / need to be bailed out / having to move, made a deal with Mario… Lay low on the money…we’ll “get you” the #1 pick in the Crosby draft AND you’ll get a piece/ownership of the “saved” franchise… Fast forward to today as confirmed by the recent Business Week article and the league is again trying to “help” Mario increase the value / sell the team that is up for sale but it is at a “reduced” value currently ($750MM) …A value which would increase considerably the farther they go in the playoffs / win the Cup… Ultimately the actions / collusion can all be summed up with the famous line…”Jake, it’s Chinatown”

RF73


Sat Apr 30 2016 11:54 am EST

Guys I need help - walk me off the ledge again. Any chance TB can win this series against the ISISlanders? Anyone else nervous they'll win a cup easily this year while we came so close? Karma isn't working for the islander fans that I know. They got to talk and now are cup bound.

DREW


Sat Apr 30 2016 11:40 am EST

Mario saved the Pittsburgh franchise. As much as I can't stand the guy, that is a fact. As for last year's lottery......what I don't get is that of it was going to be rigged, why McDavid would not be in Toronto. Clearly Kevin Lowe was a disaster in Edmonton.......as bad as Sather has been in New York. The Rangers had repeatedly sucked before the Crosby lottery. I remember watching the lottery and I can still see that weasel Bettman opening the envelope for the 15th pick. I could not believe it. A lottery for all the teams in the league following the lockout, not done like they usually are where one team wins and all the rest fall into place based on record. It was a hosing of the highest order. At the worst, the Rangers should have had the 3rd or 4th pick. And when it came down to Pittsburgh or Anaheim, there was no question who was getting it. The fact that Mario billeted Crosby and translated the same elitist, a-hole attitude to Crosby made it even worse. Now Mario and Burkle are trying to sell the team. Any question about the idiotic penalties called in the first round series? The excuse made by the department of player safety for Letang's attack on Stralman? My opinion is that hockey is such an incredible sport that, even with the current NHL management, they cannot screw it up. They change and apply the rules differently based on NHL office and owner's agendas. It is like a cartel. And nobody gets called on it......nothing ever leaks.......and the clubs make money hand over fist since the cap. I believe that we are 2 seasons from the next lockout, where the owners can once again extract pounds of flesh from the players. meanwhile, you about need to take out a mortgage to pay for tickets. I have often thought that if I lived in Canada, I would gladly satisfy my need for a hockey fix by going to juniors games instead of the NHL. No way to do that in Southern California. Sorry for the rant. This subject always makes me angry.

Bob


Sat Apr 30 2016 11:21 am EST

I absolutely think the draft is rigged, Mario needed a marquee player they gave him a few. They let him pay himself 1 mil to avoid money issues when he returned to the league which was a joke. Edm getting how many first overalls is ridiculous. And as bob said the Rangers have as good a percentage as Pitt getting the first overall and they end up drafting 15th? That is just insane.

York18


Sat Apr 30 2016 11:17 am EST

Ever notice how teams that tank and need new buildings seem to win the lottery? Last year, it actually seemed legit because even the NHL could not sell Edmonton getting that pick after all the years of taking.

Bob


Sat Apr 30 2016 11:11 am EST

Restrictions like that would prevent the NHL from rigging the lottery to help specific teams who are in trouble or favored. Reference the Crosby lottery, when the Rangers had the same mathematical chance as Pittsburgh but got the #15 pick. The NHL felt they HAD to take care of Mario.

Bob


Sat Apr 30 2016 10:56 am EST

FWIW I get the notion that you want to give lousy teams a chance to get better and having them draft higher than successful teams is valid from a conceptual basis. However, endless sucking shouldn't be rewarded. I like the idea that you can only have so many top end picks in a given period of time. Don't limit it to first all overall - maybe top 5 or something like that. You can only have 2 top 5 picks in a 5 year period. If you suck like the Oilers have, it means after the 2nd year, the highest they can select is 6th (which is still good).

RF4L


Sat Apr 30 2016 10:27 am EST

STANGER that's my point losers are rewarded with generational talent while winners are left working damn hard to build a team. My Lord Chiarelli can come out of this looking like the greatest GM ever if he does this right in the next couple years/ He can build the team around McDavid and Hall, take this years pick and turn that into solid NHL players and get himself a goalie and be a contender within the next three years, even a cup finalist if done correctly.

York18


Sat Apr 30 2016 9:44 am EST

At the very least York a team that gets the 1st overall should not be eligible for 5 years or something like that. Or if you get first overall you imediately go to the end of the line and can no longer get the first overall until all other teams have gotten one. That way in 30 years time every team would eventally get the 1st pick. They would have to work out a lottery system to make this work of course but the current system of rewarding losers does the league no good. Look at all the promotable talent wasting away in Edmonton as an example. Who outside of hardcore hockey people ever heard of McDavid?

NYStranger


Sat Apr 30 2016 9:38 am EST

Sounds like the NHL and players assoc. will need to work out some things. No way individual contracts can supersede something like this. I am wondering also if there will be a buyout period as well. Should be interesting. Hey while they are at it Buttman should put an NHL in every State so each team only has 1 or 2 true NHLers ! Effing joke....they should be contracting not expanding.

NYStranger


Sat Apr 30 2016 9:33 am EST

Also to stop this tanking nonsense it's time for it to be a real lottery where everyone has one ball that is it, no better chance at number one than anyone else you get your position if you win or not during the season. You will quickly see teams no longer tanking to build a franchise because the team that wins the cup will have as good a chance at drafting a gernational player as the team that was the worst in the league as it should be you should not be rewarded for sucking.

York18


Sat Apr 30 2016 9:32 am EST

I'd leave Girardi unprotected before Klein or Wrath. I'd lead Nash unprotected as well, he is like a carrot dangling out there to avoid losing someone else and it would lighten the cap issue two birds.

York18


Sat Apr 30 2016 7:54 am EST

Also tonight, in addition to this afternoon’s Eastern Losers Bracket Game 2, and tonight’s Eastern Conference Final Game 2, is the NHL draft lottery. The odds of winning the Tankers’ Lottery, courtesy of NHL.com: (Fewest Points to Most) Odds Toronto Maple Leafs 20.0% Edmonton Oilers 13.5% Vancouver Canucks 11.5% Columbus Blue Jackets 9.5% Calgary Flames 8.5% Winnipeg Jets 7.5% Arizona Coyotes 6.5% Buffalo Sabres 6.0% Montreal Canadiens 5.0% Colorado Avalanche 3.5% New Jersey Devils 3.0% Ottawa Senators 2.5% Carolina Hurricanes 2.0% Boston Bruins 1.0% - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/30/one-expansion-draft-hurdle-down-more-to-come/#sthash.p6416nwZ.dpuf

stevielegs


Sat Apr 30 2016 7:53 am EST

so if a team had all their players with nmc or ntc then what ?..

stevielegs


Sat Apr 30 2016 7:42 am EST

It has not been clarified yet if protection of a NMC will go against one of the slots teams have to protect players or if it will be an automatic type thing and we can use those protection slots on other players. If we went in to the next offseason with this same group of players, this would be our protection list (IMO)....7 Forwards.... Stepan, Brassard, Zuccarello, Kreider, Miller, Fast, Lindberg.... Defense... McDonagh, Girardi (NMC), M. Staal (NMC).... Goalie.... Hank.... Skjei and Buchnevich are exempt. This would leave players such as Nash, Hayes, McIlrath and Klein left unprotected. I think Hayes would be traded instead of losing him for nothing, if not, he may be protected over Fast. We can only lose a maximum of 2 players and we have to leave at least 1 NHL calibre defenseman left unprotected (screw you Bettman!). AHL players like Jensen could also be taken. I'm hoping that NMC will be auto protected and we will still be able to protect 3 other defensemen, but that wouldn't be fair to teams without players that have NMC's. We have to do our very best to get rid of Girardi and Staal this offseason or buy them out. FYI, in the last expansion draft, we were also able to protect 5 defensemen. This is all because Bettman wants the expansion teams to be competitive right away.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 30 2016 6:41 am EST

Stevie....loud groan.....I'll take that as a NECY moment. (Not enough coffee yet)

WIOSA


Sat Apr 30 2016 6:36 am EST

Wiosa now the nyr quacks should too and get their ducks in a row

stevielegs


Sat Apr 30 2016 6:09 am EST

Oh wow... Ducks fired their coach.

WIOSA


Sat Apr 30 2016 12:16 am EST

Hank for a decent goalie at half the price and some top-level F or D? In a microsecond. Half a microsecond. But no way Mr. GQ goes to some relative hellhole like Dallas, Texas.

Nick


Fri Apr 29 2016 8:56 pm EST

Nystranger...Marketing goes by TV and print media...size of viewing public. NJ is the same as NYC. This is why Devils had to pay money to the NYR..for infringing on their territory. The Doctor who bought the Devils and brought them to NJ..felt the same as you...he would "steal" long suffering Ranger fans...and provide them with a new arena and parking as well. How could it fail? Ha! Because we are masochists thats how it failed.

WIOSA


Fri Apr 29 2016 8:23 pm EST

York Gorton fishboy and Sather probably are or already have decided on veenyo . Hopefully he's available to find a new job , or gets a different job with the nyr starting in May 2016. Whatever next season's roster is will then have a real chance to contend with Hank between the pipes . If they keep him Hank might ask to be traded. Especially with the expansion bs coming after next season .

stevielegs


Fri Apr 29 2016 7:40 pm EST

WIOSA no way you can tell me Newark NJ is the same as Brooklyn NY

NYStranger


Fri Apr 29 2016 6:38 pm EST

Any chance we can just leave AV unprotected and they can have our coach?

York18


Fri Apr 29 2016 6:28 pm EST

ooops, s/b NYStranger

mf


Fri Apr 29 2016 6:23 pm EST

LeoS: That GEICO commercial cracks me up.... The music is from ZZ Topps song, "LaGrange" which is about a visit to a whorehouse..... Meatheads in marketing is what they are...............Allow me......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOsFwRv6zto

mf


Fri Apr 29 2016 6:20 pm EST

RHET: That's some really good STUFF" :->)

mf


Fri Apr 29 2016 4:46 pm EST

York- I am definitely not sold on Yakupov, but he isn't completely worthless either. Think he could go either way basically. Or like of course never become a franchise player, but could be like become a Danny Briere type?

Ola


Fri Apr 29 2016 4:45 pm EST

I watched an expansion team struggle after an expansion draft (SJ) where their best player was Doug Wilson leading a roster of never beens, and never will bes with a bunch of rookies that either should've been in the minors or Jr. hockey. It was deplorable. But, they had good management and had the biggest turnaround in NHL history. So it can be done. A team just needs to know what they are doing. Likewise, the Ducks were literally clueless. Unable to build a team around Kariya and Sellane. Both teams are a testimonial to why being an expansion team doesn't need all the help in the world, they need shrewd management and development. You can give a team the top pick for the next 20-years and that doesn't mean dookie. Ask Edmonton.

E


Fri Apr 29 2016 4:05 pm EST

york: What's the expansion fee? $500,000,000? That's $16,000,000 for each team. Guess you have to give up a little bit of your property to share in that bounty. Oh and I believe no longer do expansion teams automatically get the first pick overall...forget now how they do it.

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 4:02 pm EST

LeoS: Are you asking because you're thinking the Rangers could do that for McD, KK and McI (in theory) thereby having all 5 d-man unavailable for the draft? I'm thinking if you did that, you'd have 8 players to protect, meaning you'll expose some forwards you don't want gone. Or perhaps give every player you want to keep a NMC. That would be obvious tho and no doubt make little Hitler (not Kevin Hayes) very very angry. Then you'd see the following season every call against go against you in every game. LOL...

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 3:30 pm EST

Is there anything to stop teams from 'renegotiating' (w/player approval) essential players contracts, giving them a 1yr NMC the summer heading into the expansion draft? Do terms even have to be in units of years or can a team give you s NMC effective 5/31/17 thru 8/31/17? I love loopholes!

LeoS


Fri Apr 29 2016 3:16 pm EST

This whole expansion thing is bullshit your team gets weaker so another team can come in? Let them take guys from the ahl and give the team the first overall pick in the draft the first year and that's it.

York18


Fri Apr 29 2016 3:03 pm EST

Bob: Yes, that's my understanding. If that's right then the good news is that the Rangers have only 3 players with NMC: The King, Staal and Girardi (the latter is kinda funny given the year he just had - lol). They have 5 forwards with NTC (well 3 actually because E Staal and Moore will be gone before expansion) but if Rhet is correct, no problem because those guys can be exposed. Not that the Rangers would - Stepan, Nash, Zuke. A bigger concern is the number of players who can be protected. 7 forwards (prior to any summer deals) would be Nash, Stepan, Brassard, Zuke, Kreider, Miller and either Hayes or Fast, leaving one of those 2 exposed plus Lindberg. On the backline it's worse because you cannot expose Girardi or Staal, so who do you keep? Obviously McD, which leaves KK and McI available. Not good and more reason why Gorton needs to explore trading G (and perhaps even Staal). Skjei should be ok because he should fall into the 2nd pro exception category.

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 1:41 pm EST

They will have to change the rules of the hard cap, which means another Buttman lockout next CBA time. Too many second tier vets are going to be out jobs and will not be happy. NHLPA will love expansion because it means more available jobs, more collected union dues etc. Also will mean that good UFAs will go at even more a premium. Meaning top draft picks are even more importsnt....humm

NYStranger


Fri Apr 29 2016 1:20 pm EST

So......players with NMC's have to be protected in the expansion draft? Watch the trade market explode as teams deal guys who they would otherwise keep but now stand to lose for nothing. Also, buyouts will increase due to this. Dead cap money will become a real issue. The Rangers will not be able to be bailed out of NMC's by the expansion draft. Uh oh.

Bob


Fri Apr 29 2016 12:36 pm EST

Rhet nmc have to be protected well that makes the rangers exempt from the expansion draft save for two or three guys because everyone has a nmc in NY lol

York18


Fri Apr 29 2016 12:34 pm EST

Sometimes you have to get crazy if I were gorton ID get on the phone with Scotty bowman and offer him 6 mil a year that man knows how to win period he has won more than any other active coach in cup wins.

York18


Fri Apr 29 2016 12:10 pm EST

Wow.......poor old Boudreau is gone ! He was 208-104-40 in ANH and 409-192-80 in his career ! Now, don't get me wrong , he is not for us........we don't need another "nice guy" BUT ?

Newfie_Ranger


Fri Apr 29 2016 11:59 am EST

E: LOLOL...as if! The trade proposal Rhet posted is more like it IMO.

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 11:56 am EST

The NYR are in disarray? Where do they come up with this crap? "Yeah... The NYR struggled this year so we can fleece them of Lundqvist for a 2nd and Benn... Jordie that is..."

E


Fri Apr 29 2016 11:55 am EST

IMO, the only way the King does agree to be traded is because he wants a cup and doesn't see it happening in NY any time soon. Dallas has assembled a very good team who's weakest link appears to be in net. The King's prohibitive contract, coupled with his age, probably detracts from the bounty he'd fetch if a little younger and cheaper. Nonetheless, he's still a fine goalie and would certainly help plug a hole that's really existed in Dallas since Eddie Belfour left.

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 11:25 am EST

Regarding expansion.... Protection of 7 forwards, 3 D and goalie or 8 skaters and goalie remain in rules. Exemption for 2nd year pro as well. NMC will have to be automatically protected (NTC do not).

Rhet0ric


Fri Apr 29 2016 11:22 am EST

Igor Eronko@IgorEronko.... Alexander Radulov confirms he will play in the #NHL next season ....EVETS.... I saw an interesting trade proposal on the Hockey Future boards last night... It was basically Lundqvist and Lindberg for Lehtonen, Nickushkin and Johns.

Rhet0ric


Fri Apr 29 2016 10:52 am EST

Does anyone really want Yak from Edm? He's an underachiever to say the least seems to have an attitude to boot.................Trade Hank huh? Interesting if Dallas would do it, but doubt it and doubt he would go, he can control if he goes anywhere and I can't see him jumping at texas, but then again a cup chance may change that.

York18


Fri Apr 29 2016 10:49 am EST

evets: Hey, isn't that what I was posting about a few days ago? Dallas is a very logical place for the King to go, if he's looking to avoid the pain of a retool. Gorton would take one of the Finnish goalies (to help off-set the cap hit the King's contract means), that Russian winger and the Stars' first round pick.

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 10:45 am EST

Outside of a huge pay day or a conflict with the coach players do not want to leave NY. Not tooting horns or anything this franchise is run at the top level. The players are paid well, they get every amenity under the sun. They get the highest daily food voucher of any team in the league. These guys do not have to spend one penny as players while on the road. The team orders and pays for their sticks if they don't have a contract with a company. Everything is first class, never fly coach, they have a private jet with personal food orders prepared when they get on the flight. When they take the train down the train is THEIR train they never travel coach. They live in the biggest city in the world where they can blend in unlike in other places. Players take the train to the game that's how easy it is to just go about your business in NY. No player wants out of NY.

York18


Fri Apr 29 2016 10:40 am EST

Was just listening to NHL radio on XM. Sports writer Jeff Marek said that after Dallas is eliminated from the playoffs the first thing Jim Nill should do is call the Rangers and ask how much it would cost to get Henrik Lundqvist. He went on to say that the Rangers are in disarray I need to retool badly and if they don't move Lundqvist, they'll be wasting the prime years of his career.

evets1980


Fri Apr 29 2016 10:02 am EST

NYStranger.....You do realize the NJ Devils are in the same big market. Just being in the market doesnt always guarantee "big market sales"

WIOSA


Fri Apr 29 2016 9:00 am EST

NYStranger - they may be big league as far as market goes but since this is the laughable NHL, they get to play in a building that has severely obstructed sight lines, an off-center scoreboard and which seems to be going for some kind of arena/parking lot/car show hybrid thing, (based on the car they've had sitting behind the glass all year).

LeoS


Fri Apr 29 2016 8:28 am EST

Viktor Stalberg would like to stay with the Rangers.... https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/viktor-stalberg-would-like-to-stay-with-the-rangers/175227838

Rhet0ric


Fri Apr 29 2016 8:27 am EST

Yes the officiating is still wildly inconsistent but more even between teams. Did not seem to be favortisim towards the Pens like it is when we play them. I would like to think that is not my fan-dom talking, that I have an unbiased eye. But really, Sheary gets absolutely blasted by a cheep, late knee shot by Wilson and no call? It would have been a major and an ejection if that was Tanner Glass or some other Rangers doing that. Looks good on the league and the Pens all can rot in hell, and all their star players can have career ending concussions for all I care. BTW I Am dreading how good the Islanders might become in the near future because as I have stated, this team is now in the big leagues as far as market is concerned. If their management sees the bucks rolling in and feeds the best it is going to be painful to see as a Rangers fan. I personally don't have the hatred of the Islanders as many of you older fans...in fact my first memory of NHL hockey is them winning their 3rd then 4th consecutive Cups. Did not grow up in a household of hockey fans so I didn't even know about the Rangers until I was in my teens and was influenced (a blessing and a curse) by friends who were big fans. But regarding the move to Brooklyn, that town is now much more hip than Manhattan and a whole new brand of Isles fans are going to emerge and they have lots of money. Just saying MSG better get moving on a retool or we will be lamenting the missed opportunities during this last good run of 5 years....OK after all this talk of our rivals I too need a shower. LETS GO RANGERS!!! CLAP CLAP Clap,Clap CLAP!!!

NYStranger


Fri Apr 29 2016 8:06 am EST

Eric Francis ‏@EricFrancis ....... Source confirms the Calgary #Flames are expected to announce the signing of Czech scoring star Daniel Pribyl today: http://bit.ly/1SOUBH3

Rhet0ric


Fri Apr 29 2016 8:00 am EST

NHLPA won't stand in the way of expansion. Still lots to be decided... http://fw.to/sUNnUde

Rhet0ric


Fri Apr 29 2016 7:42 am EST

I watched about a period of the game. He's a prick job but man is Chris Letang ever a good player when he's on his game. And how funny - early in the game Matt Cullen trips a Cap very similar to the crap he did against the Rangers. Unlike, however, the Ranger series, he got a penalty. Geesh...Buttphuck SUCKS!

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 7:40 am EST

TJ Oshie trade working out for the Caps right now. Hattrick last night including the OT winner.

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 7:38 am EST

BTW, I think this went totally under the radar by Jack Eichel scored 24 goals and 56 points for the Sabres this year. Very impressive given his age and the not so strong team he's playing on. The sky is the limit for this kid. He reminds me a bit of McDavid in terms of personality - quiet, solid and just wants to play hockey. You Yanks have a very good player here....

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 7:34 am EST

Regarding Snow - he got the GM role with zero experience (which isn't unprecedented of course) but in the beginning (not sure how many actual years) he was totally handcuffed and manipulated by that crazy owner Charles Wang. Now that Wang is out of the picture, I believe Snow has more autonomy and has made some interesting trades, including the Boychuk and Leddy deals, plus sending under-achieving Griffin Reinhart to Edmonton last June for the 16th pick (Matt Barzal). Sather, meanwhile, trades away picks like dime store candy.

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 7:28 am EST

And agreed on Tavares - said the other night we are watching this kid's evolution as a leader. I believe 3 consecutive game winning PO goals. It ain't gonna happen, but Rick Nash would probably fit in there really nicely. JT would help take the focus from him and he'd probably be an excellent right winger for him.

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 7:18 am EST

TD: It's all probably moot because I don't see Gorton having the courage or foresight to move McD anyways.

RF4L


Fri Apr 29 2016 7:03 am EST

Crosby on ice for three of the Caps four goals....ha,ha! Pen fans whining the Refs want the Caps to win. On a good note, Haggy got two assists

WIOSA


Fri Apr 29 2016 6:30 am EST

Regarding Garth SNOW...I won't say this guy is a better GM, per se. But he's made some VERY savvy moves in the past three years that have taken the Isles from tire fire to contender. I used to think he was a joke, because the Isles MO was essentially to keep drafting high and let the fruit rot on the vine. But a few years ago, Snow started making some pretty ballsy decisions. First was trading NIEDERIETER for CLUTTERBUCK and a pick. I kind of dropped my jaw at that...trading a top six forward for a bottom three grinder? But lo and behold, that's looking like a pretty smart move now...then the BOYCHUCK deal...Boston fans, to this day, are ruing that deal. They hated it when it happened. They hate it more now. Snow gave up a lot for Boychuck(two seconds and a third), but he did his homework. He got the booming, hard-hitting blueliner the Isles needed to anchor their back line(on a side note, GORTON gave up essentially the same hall --two seconds and SAARELA --for STAAL and looks like he will have nothing to show for it July 1)...He also traded kitchen scraps for Nick LEDDY, a young, former-first rounder with a cup ring...and got Tom HICKEY, a former fourth overall, for absolutely nothing. Basically in two years, he turned the Isles' defense from a laughing stock into a powerhouse. And if you have any doubts how good their D is now, check out who they have between the pipes...then when the Rangers were 'wowing' fans by getting a guy like Staal, what does Snow do? He grabs this unknown kid from the Sens named Shane PRINCE for a third rounder. I thought he was a scrub...just a paper trade of sorts...but was taken back by him when the Isles put a whipping on the Rangers at the end of the season...now that kid has three goals in the playoffs...more than our beloved Rick NASH...including one to stick the first knife into Tampa...Granted, the Isles by virtue of sucking so bad for so long have amassed just a trove of first rounders...and with all the top five picks they've had over the past decade, should have a dynasty already...Snow can deal away second and third round picks without fear, because he's got three or four first rounders in the hopper...and I'll also note, he's twice now traded second and third rounders to grab the Rangers' first round pick from Tampa...And he also has the luxury of Jon TAVARES, who is simply an incredible hockey player...this kid's name should be mentioned as one of the top performers in the game today...a guy who is a class-act, bleeds the color of his organization, humble and above all, LEADS BY EXAMPLE...Just about any team in the NHL --Edmonton excluded --with JT on their roster would probably have a cup by now...but I digress...I'll give Snow this credit: He realized EARLY ON what the Isles had in JT and, unlike Sather and now Gorton, took very effective steps to get him what he needed to make a playoff run. Now I'm not presenting the Isles with the cup by any means...and frankly, I don't think there's a team in the east that will best what the west has to offer...but the Isles are excelling with a third-string goalie and down one of their top six forwards...and frankly, I think they would have beat the piss out of the Pens...I watched a lot of the Isles-Panthers series and another thing I'll give Snow's club is that they have ZERO QUIT. I mean, ZERO. That team goes down two goals going into the third and it's like they start playing better. That is emblematic of the leader Jon Tavares has become and the soldiers that have bought into his philosophy. He is twice the player Sid CROSBY could ever dream of being, but because he plays for a team that has a total inability to promote itself, he's in obscurity and not even list too often among the top 10 centers in the game...There. Now I have to take a LONG shower because I feel dirty after saying all that.

tdchi


Fri Apr 29 2016 6:07 am EST

RF4L - re: CHIARELLI, he traded the number 2 pick from the 2010 draft and it punched his ticket out of Boston. I would be amazed if he wheels around and trades the number 1 pick too. And I don't think his seat is anywhere close to hot at this point. Sure, Edmonton wants results. But everyone there knows they have a generational talent in McDAVID and that he was injured for half the year. The team resigned TALBOT to a long-term contract, watched DRAISTL go from boy to man overnight AND will have another top-five pick this year, with which they can either trade or draft a bedrock defenseman. If Chiarelli DOES move Hall or Drais or really anyone outside of YAKUPOV, he really is a moron...I think you'll see him tweak a bit, but would be absolutely floored if he made a bombastic move like trading HALL. I think even trading RNH or EBERLE would be pretty extreme, given the promise Edmonton showed last year. Keep in mind too, they have KLEFBOM and NURSE coming of age on D as well...no way they want anything to do with GIRARDI. I could see them taking STAAL or McDONAGH, but the return we'd get wouldn't be nearly as good as either player. You might...and I stress MIGHT...be able to move McD and a prospect for their top pick and someone like Yak...but how does that help us any?

tdchi


Thu Apr 28 2016 11:41 pm EST

Tootsie Roll could sponsor hattrick giveaways! Ugh.

LeoS


Thu Apr 28 2016 11:30 pm EST

Leo I guess we are lucky then that they are not the Craps! I would hate to see them carrying around, you know...

NYStranger


Thu Apr 28 2016 11:20 pm EST

Rhet - Maybe fans saw who the goalie was slated to be and showed up wearing multiple ones, yeah? I mean their nickname is the CAPS, after all ;)

LeoS


Thu Apr 28 2016 11:03 pm EST

OK, did Roenick say they were playing SHITTY hockey or SHINNY hockey? Damn those bozos, want the Pens to win...Like always, I want Crosby or Malkin CRIPPLED

Hospo


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:44 pm EST

LEOS... I call conspiracy. I mean, where would fans that already threw their hats get a second hat from? It's a thinker.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:40 pm EST

Oshie with the Trick. Quick, break out that old Geico commercial and get on the bandwagon...again...

NYStranger


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:36 pm EST

Caps win 4-3 on a pretty Oshie wraparound goal in OT.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:35 pm EST

"Here come the hats, again!", Kenny Albert after video review confirms Oshie's OT winner.

LeoS


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:35 pm EST

Ahhh too bad for Cindy's 'guins. NHL nearly had a snafu on that OT goal. Lucky there was good shot of the puck over the line because the ref had to be guessing it was a good goal from where he was standing.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 28 2016 8:42 pm EST

Pens and Caps tied 2 all mid 2nd.

WIOSA


Thu Apr 28 2016 5:50 pm EST

MF... I am shocked and appalled.... It was Gene Gene the Dancing Machine.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuJHKVQ2kLA

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 28 2016 4:52 pm EST

I said enough about HAYES the past two years..can't stand the player--However, dumping him and his talent is out of the question...More then likley the best use of him is as part of a package in a bigger trade where instead of a one on one, the opposing GM can take the risk while he's getting something else back......But If Hayes is a cocky party boy, the entire league probaly knows alreadyand the Rangers are screwed..And I said IFFFFF

Hospo


Thu Apr 28 2016 4:33 pm EST

PUCK he should have been nervous and his play didn't really raise that much of an issue it was his attitude that is the problem. He was called out by his coach and his response was I think I'm playing great!??!?!? I mean really, that's not the right answer because he wasn't playing great. As for him getting worse, I don't think he will get worse his talent will allow him to always be a 30 point guy, but he should be a 50-60 point guy and that's the problem. The reason I want to move him now is because the promise of a 60 point guy is still there, so the return should still get this team a second line winger, wait too long and the 30 point player will be what he is with promise of nothing more. The worst part is the thing holding Hayes back is Hayes, he's his own worst enemy and if he was worried about being traded he sure doesn't play like it.

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 4:12 pm EST

keywords ' no brainier", that might be his problem...some rumors about him being a party boy, and a loose cannon.....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 28 2016 4:08 pm EST

The risk with Hayes, ass it almost always is with young players, is are you giving up too soon. He was definitely immature and used to a certain degree of comfort, and he was WAY too comfortable . I know from someone who knows him he was nervous at the deadline, so it's not like he was oblivious as to his performance this season. So if he decides to work his ass off this summer and get in shape he could have a much better year and make us look bad in a trade. that said, if kept , he may cop the same attitude . These kids like JT, Kreider and Kevin are all about the age where you are fully mature- certainly the other 2 seem to be ahead of Hayes at this juncture - however Kreider will never have Hayes' hands or vision and Kevin will never even approach his skating speed. JT seems to be the keeper at this point, making less defensive mistakes than a year ago. JT is also the most consistent of the 3 RFA. I just am wary of dealing the wrong one and getting fleeced- and Hayes could make us look bad if he ever gets that big body in shape and starts using it in another jersey. Agree with anyone who thinks he sucked most of the year- and with those who think his play could even diminish. His age is the problem, if he was 30 it would be a no brainier to deal him, as he would be fully developed commodity. Tough call - should be a crazy off season.

puckyou


Thu Apr 28 2016 3:24 pm EST

Bob - Ouch! but spot on, I've been called worse on the ice!Ok, off the ice also....

Hospo


Thu Apr 28 2016 3:16 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q4DTaMA_ss Messier we need you back to wake this fuckin organization up!!!!!!!!!!!!

vcp1994


Thu Apr 28 2016 3:15 pm EST

mf: Your trade proposal makes us a better team, but I do not think Nash and Girardi would do it and I would not go beyond that. Stamkos is an excellent player but I would be very surprised if he considers NY as a destination.

gene_carr


Thu Apr 28 2016 3:01 pm EST

And the real point of my earlier comment was that if the islanders start being run like a large market team, which IMO they now are, they are going to be a huge thorn in the sides of us Rangers Fans and to MSG ownership.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 28 2016 2:51 pm EST

Damn phone...in goal.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 28 2016 2:50 pm EST

York maybe I exaggerate but seriously anybody would have a tough time pulling that franchise out of the quagmire they have been in. Just think of the Milbury years. And Edmonton is proof that high picks alone get you nowhere as a team. He arguably has done better with less than edmonton over the same period. Would I trade teams ny for ny? No, but still concidering I thought he would totally crash and burn as GM he has not been that bad. And they are in a good position going forward. His biggest failing has to be in goz

NYStranger


Thu Apr 28 2016 2:21 pm EST

Leo I don't think that kind of coach exists in todays NHL where every little thing is scrutinized under a microscope. Really thought Torts was going to be that kind of coach and after the first sign of adversity he panicked and became who we saw. The Torts Turtle.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 28 2016 2:15 pm EST

HOSPO--Can you still skate?

Bob


Thu Apr 28 2016 1:56 pm EST

York/RF4L - last night I was thinking the same thing about Kreider playing for a coach who let him loose and accepted any penalties that ensued. He's only had Torts/AV.

LeoS


Thu Apr 28 2016 1:53 pm EST

Wait, how is mf still posting? I woulda thought saying you're willing to root for the Islanders is cause for automatic banishment. I 'll have to review the TOS. Ha! :)

LeoS


Thu Apr 28 2016 1:40 pm EST

HOSPO I don't think they need that more than they need a superstar game changing player like Stamkos that's just nuts and even if they had that guy AV would turn him into a lady byng winner

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 1:30 pm EST

The one player in the NHL I wish the Rangers could get their hands on is Brad Marchand...Just a fantasy, I know, Bruins would be nust to deal him..but I'd try......And if I can't get that tealented asshole, I look for another.....More then a star like Stamkos, the Rangers need a nasty boy more then any team in the league....They need a dick, They need a scumbag,,, they need a player other teams hate....Yeah, the guy on CHicago is good too and I hope there are others..

Hospo


Thu Apr 28 2016 1:25 pm EST

TDCHI - Like is often the case with you and I, we don't disagree on the player, just the timing of when to count obn said player.! I'm no expert on BUCH but I have seen a few games...Very slick and talented and I have high hopes...But he also likley still has alot to learn about the total game and at least a half a yera in Hartford will do him good..As for JENSEN, another boring Swede who is smart and responsible but won't contribute much outside the AHL.....Hope I'm wrong.

Hospo


Thu Apr 28 2016 1:15 pm EST

Per @EliasSports: @PredsNHL's Peter Laviolette is first head coach in NHL history to win five consecutive Game 7s.

stevielegs


Thu Apr 28 2016 1:10 pm EST

NYSTRANGER how has Snow been better? He's been GM for 10 years, he's missed the playoffs 6 out of those 10 years that alone is failure spending more time out of the playoffs does not make you a better team last I checked which means Snow has not GMd very well. In those ten years Snow has had 6 top ten picks with 5 of them being in the top 5 and one being first overall the guy has had ample chance to put together a damn good team when was the last time the Rangers had a chance at a top 5 pick let alone a first overall in the last ten years? Snow has had a decade to put together a winner and has had tons of chances at drafting blue chip players and he still hasn't done a better job than Sather, give the Rangers two of those top 5 picks and one being Tavarese and you will see a sick team and a cup winner IMO.

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 12:55 pm EST

The islanders org. still have that small market hayseed stink to them but they will soon realize that they are now in fact a large market team. And they are perfectly set up to get real good in the near future if run correctly. Sad to say Snow has been a better Gm than Sather for the most part. MSG better get their shite together and fast or they WILL be watching Brooklyn championships while the Garden lays dark in the spring. is it now 76 years and only one Cup?

NYStranger


Thu Apr 28 2016 11:59 am EST

I think Hayes can get you a second line winger right about now, hold on any longer and you'll be lucky to get a third or fourth liner for him.

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 11:59 am EST

JNYR I would agree this could be a sophomore jinx, and even found myself thinking that at first until I looked back at him last year. I broke things down because I remembered a statement made about him from an away broadcast during the end of the season, forgot who. Essentially Hayes got hot for about 4 weeks where he racked up extra points. This isn't some mind numbing number but an extra almost 10 points if you remove that hot streak Hayes' production would be the same and actually so would his game. The only difference would be up until the last month of the season Hayes would back check hard come that last month and the playoffs the Hayes we saw all year is the same Hayes from last year. There is no magic here, or Jinx for that matter this is how he plays his game and why he was a late first round pick as opposed to a top 5 pick. There is talent there but it isn't top level talent, there is hopes and glimmers of top end talent, the kid has size, reach, can dangle, and has pretty good vision, but his hockey IQ is questionable, his work ethic is sub par, and he is aloof to put it kindly. He has an attitude on top of all that. Like I said his worth is still high because the promise of more is still there and his size is enticing hang on for too much longer and you have nothing coming back IMO other than a mid to late round pick. He's a natural winger who can't play wing in the NHL, he's a converted center who cant win faceoffs and has ego problems, sooner than later his stock will be worthless.

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 11:49 am EST

York: I agree with you on your take on Kevin Hayes and at times this year wish I could strangle him myself, but I would not move him yet.....for a few reasons...1) Plenty of athletes, not just hockey have looked ok in their rookie seasons only to have a sophomore slump or jinx as you could put it, a lot of these guys figure it out and have decent careers. 2) I think his trade value is minimal. If I was a GM and talked to the rangers about Hayes, I would say...you mean the guy that that got benched in the playoffs. .......3) With a farm system as barren as ours (Thanks Glen) you just can't afford to give up on a young prospect with upside. Do I think your right....probably, but I still wouldn't move Hayes now on the slim chance he turns it around

jnyr


Thu Apr 28 2016 11:06 am EST

Y18, agreed, his salary is insane and that's why they don't get a sniff at McDonagh... I'm giving them an out with just 2 yes remaining on Nash... Let them trade for Shattenkirk to recoup the the point production from the back

mf


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:58 am EST

VIC Is Hayes the worst part of this team? Hardly is a symptom of the problem? Yes, his attitude sucks, which speaks volumes because attitude reflects leadership and there seems to be a lack of that on this team and no one to grab this kid by the scruff of his neck and put him in line.I think his carefree I'm playing great attitude is a huge problem and you can see unlike year one when MSL was here and this kid was working hard at being a center and back checking that all vanished this year, again a leadership problem? Thing is if this kid has to be baby sat 24/7 then he's not worth the trouble this isn't Crosby we are talking about here. He holds the puck too long, turns the puck over in the neutral zone way too often and then stands there like he doesn't know what happened. You ask who would want him? I have no idea, and why would anyone want to give up anything for him the mystique is still there and the promise of more is there which still gives him worth, wait too long and that mystique disappears as does his value. You seem to be only willing to part with Hayes if a top talent player comes back, the thing is Hayes is not a top talent player how is he going to bring back something that he isn't himself. That's like saying Girardi for Keith not happening. The simple fact that you even mentioned Matthews is ridiculous, that guy is a full on stud at both ends of the ice Hayes isn't half the player that kid is right now. Why not just say you can't trade him unless it's for Mcdavid too? The problem is you would rather hold on to him till he's worth nothing and I don't see a reason to do that when you can get something for him now. The kids attitude sucks and that's something you aren't going to change and talent is the hope of something more but when the player is invested in the promise of said talent then it's just a waste. Hayes thinks he's playing great he and Nash must be of the same family both have zero intensity and always think they're playing great. Where can you trade him, come to think of it maybe Boston wants him to play with his brother. I think you get rid of him 1) because his attitude sucks 2) if AV is staying he showed zero respect for AV all season and showed it in the media 3) Before teams realize he is what he is there is a chance you can still get something decent for him, a second line winger maybe? I don't know, what I do know is soon he will be worth a fourth or fifth round pick......................MF want no part of Subban at all then again trade them Girardi and maybe LOL. The Habs would maybe want McD just to start that deal and a first that contract is insane rather give that money to Stamkos..................

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:58 am EST

Trade: I don't believe in puck luck. I believe in doing all the things right that make that happen. Just as much as you do your best to keep the goalie from seeing the puck cleanly. Do that and it's amazing how lucky you become.

E


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:56 am EST

Agent47: since caoch AVishysoisse has turned the team into a bunch of Eunuchs anyway, Trannys may use the unisex facilities ......

mf


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:38 am EST

mf: Do we need to start discussing the MSG bathroom situation?

Ranger47


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:33 am EST

mean gene the dancing machine: a certain exiled to Mars Wallster brought up PK to me in an email.. Interesting to ponder no doubt... Would they take Girardi & Nash ($13.3 mill combined) for say PK & Max Patch? ..... I am all for having players of color on the NY Rangers and considering our market, I think it would be great for the sport... Its been quite some time since Snoop Dog Ansen Carter laced them up.... KLEIN..PK..MCILATH..MCD..STAAL..SKJEI.... phuck Yandle & Shattenkirk for that matter... Could be a path of least resistance....

mf


Thu Apr 28 2016 10:21 am EST

Is Hitler a tranny?

mf


Thu Apr 28 2016 9:43 am EST

YORK: I think you are helping my argument, not hurting it. First, you have such a visceral, negative reaction to HITLER that you overstate how much of a problem he is with respect to the rest of the issues with the team. That is why I started calling him HITLER in the first place. Folks here have waaaay over-inflated him as a critical problem on this team. They have made up their mind that he is THE problem and he needs to be moved. And yes, I lump you in that group. However, if he is such a big problem who would want him and why would anyone give up anything of value for him? Think about it. If you guys have this opinion of him that there is no way you would ever want him on your team why would anyone else want him? You think you can get back a roster player for him. Who? If by roster player you mean a 3rd or 4th line mucker who tries real hard count me out. The Rangers have more then enough bottom 6 players. They need talent. Top tier talent. Now, I'm already on record as saying if the Rangers can turn HITLER into DRAISAITL, MATTHEWS, DOMI, or someone of that ilk then where do I sign! I don't love HITLER (wow, I never thought I would ever have to utter that line) but I want his skill to be harnessed into a difference maker for the Rangers. And I'm willing to hold onto him in an attempt to try to get that out of him at the risk of losing him for nothing or a minimal return down the road because I don't see any other options out there. But again, if GORTON can reel in a big fish in exchange for HITLER I'm all in (STEVIE: did you see what I did there?).

Vic


Thu Apr 28 2016 9:04 am EST

RF you said that yesterday and hours later you were wrong, I guess eventually you'll be right about something LMAO

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 8:57 am EST

york: My source is ME. Watch and learn grasshopper...

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 8:42 am EST

gene_carr...Subban?...doesn't he still have 6 years @ $9 million per year left on his contract? Do we want to absorb anything like that at this point...especially if Stamkos is coming to Fantasy Island?

RF73


Thu Apr 28 2016 8:36 am EST

VIC that's where we disagree and funny because you love Hayes, I think right now he brings you back a roster player, hold on to him any longer and he brings back a fourth rounder. Your car analogy is kind of terrible because Hayes is not the AC he's actually your transmission or at least he supposed to be with that skill but he's not, time to get the tranny fixed................RF you're the same guy who claimed that there would be changes there this year and there weren't and mentioned all those guys going, and didn't you say a certain preds player was available only to have him signing a new deal a few hours later? Maybe its time to get a new source.

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 8:30 am EST

york: Re Hall - we'll see soon enough i suspect....

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 8:03 am EST

YORK: I freely admit that HITLER may be nothing more then what we have seen and what you have described. He may end up being a total bust. But what I'm saying is that the Rangers aren't going to get more then a 4th rounder for him if they try to trade him now. And in weighing what the Rangers are likely to get in the 4th round I'd rather take my chances and see what HITLER can be developed into. They might be able to move him for someone else's problem (like ETEM) but again unless someone is just stupid and gives the Rangers way more in return I'd rather hold onto HITLER. At least for now. It is worth the risk IMHO.

Vic


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:58 am EST

RF: I appreciate skill. It is extremely important me. It is a huge factor in why I admire players or not. No surprise that GRETZKY is my favorite athlete of all time. But I also admire the skill in opponents and why I don't hate guys like CROSBY, AO, etc. So, HITLER has the skill that keeps me interested. And I see his situation here a little like this.....The Rangers as a whole are a lot like a car that has issues. The engine doesn't have enough power with some cylinders that aren't firing (top two lines), the alignment is out of whack (AV), there is an oil leak (the D) and the car is being driven by a drunk driver (GORTON/SATHER). To me the HITLER issue is like the air conditioning not working. Its a problem. It needs to be fixed. But in the grand scheme of things it isn't anywhere near as big an issue as the other things wrong with this car (team). But all most people complain about here is that the AC doesn't work. The complaints are out of whack with the problem, especially considering the other issues we have.

Vic


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:57 am EST

VIC so you consider trading Hayes dumping him for whatever because of the season he had. The thing is something you just don't want to seem to admit despite it being pointed out is Hayes outside of about a 4-6 week stretch last year where he got hot played exactly the same way and produced at the same pace. Maybe he didn't have a bad year, but rather he didn't get that lucky hot streak to make him look as appealing as he did last year. He didn't do a whole lot early in the season granted he was adjusting, he didn't do anything the last couple weeks and in the playoffs. Lindberg who had less games played and ice time actually produced on par with Hayes. You think holding on to Hayes is a good idea to raise his value, the problem with that thinking is this is his value and before everyone else figures that out trade the kid and rob someone of a damn good prospect who can step right in and replace him. Once the cat is out of the bag you aren't going to get much more than a third liner, or a project for him at best. You would hire someone to work with him in the offseason LMAO you can't do that and neither can the Rangers that's why it's the offseason. You aren't getting this huge turnaround from this kid he will come to camp the same player he was because this is who he is..............RF I think you're reaching Chiarelli said he's not moving hall in the fall. Yak may be there but do the Rangers really want him? He's a project and a head case, not something I'd be eager to add under AV, RNH is available not sure he has the goods to be a number one center which means you're exchanging for the same problem this team currently has no true number one center. Draistal is going nowhere as well. I'd be eager to see a coach who lets the shackles off of Kreider and tells him go run people over. He has the makings of a Wendal Clark in him if he harnesses it and a coach lets it go. Like I said I would show him and miller film of Clark and say this is how you need to play all the time.

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:56 am EST

I am not suggesting this move but of all the speculation on the board no one has mentioned Subban. Montreal wants him gone and they need a center, We have 1a and 1b to start the ball rolling. Brass is a likely candidate but it will need more. Would he be a foundation piece to "retool". On the free agent market Dale Weiss would be a consideration to retool the fourth line.

gene_carr


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:56 am EST

Pavel Buchnevich and Alain Vigneault. Can't wait to see that pair together. I would expect to see a pouting Russian. They had better bring in another player that speaks Russian to help the kid acclimate. Could be worse though....it could have been Buchnevich and Torts!

Bob


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:52 am EST

Vic he does look like Hitler...and Charlie Chaplin , and Stan Laurel....and sometimes like Claude Rains.....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:46 am EST

Hayes biggest problem to me is that he's built like a power forward and he shies away from anything physical.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:36 am EST

I'm curious about how Hayes would fare under a different more demanding coach. I feel the same way about Kreider but for different reasons - he's a beast on the ice when he wants to be; how would he perform under a coach who embraces his physical sometimes reckless style vs a coach who tries to reign in such behaviour? How would he play under a coach like Ken Hitchcock or Mike Babcock? He'd be scary if he could play with less AV leash.

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:33 am EST

Vic: Your (over)sensitivity about Hayes is pretty amusing! LOL. I think most agree with you BTW in that the kid's got talent and size but the desire/commitment factor is lacking. How to rectify that is the conundrum facing AV and company. The bigger question: Can it be rectified? Professional sports is littered with the memories of supremely talented athletes who's mental agility didn't come close so if what we see is what we get, it certainly won't be u unprecedented.

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:31 am EST

If anyone wants to see those stats here they are: http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/ratings.php?db=201516&sit=5v5&type=individual&teamid=20&pos=skaters&minutes=200&disp=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

Vic


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:29 am EST

STEVIE: The most interesting thing in that NerdHockey article appears toward the middle. They show a chart of a few players and their 5v5 Points per 60 minutes production. And low and behold HITLER was 4th on the Rangers with 1.9 points per 60 minutes. How can that be???!??? After all, he sucks, right? He must be traded immediately because he didn't produce, right? The reality is that when you look at the 5v5 stats STEPAN was the highest rated Ranger. There was some separation between him and the group of Rangers who came in 2nd through 5th. MILLER, MZA, HITLER and LINDBERG were essential equal in points per 60 minutes at 5v5. Then there was another drop off before you got to NASH and KREIDER. And another drop off before you got to BRASSARD. HITLER didn't have the year that most of us hoped and expected (there is that word again) he would. He has major issues in his game that need to be excised. But dumping him now for whatever you can get would be a mistake IMHO. You aren't going to get much of anything coming off his less then stellar sophomore season. It would be a better bet to hold onto him and see if he can develop into more of an impact player given his skill set. But I would hire MESSIER (or someone like that) to work with him every day in the off season. He needs some tough love. He needs to up his level of conditioning and up his level of effort on every shift. He needs to simplify his game and pick his spots to use his skills most effectively. It can be done. Whether or not he can do it is another story.

Vic


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:27 am EST

That's the other drawback with those 3: They're all making $6,000,000 - another huge mistake by the previous regime.

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:21 am EST

Of the 3, Eberle has the shortest remaining time on his contract, I believe 3 yes... I think RNH has 5yrs, Hall may have 5 too... Heck, Hall & Yak would be a great consolation prize....

mf


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:15 am EST

IMO we need to see how the lottery pans out and then formulate our trade schemes... If we do trade with the oilers, Yakupov may make sense to help Much get acclimated... He's also cap friendly at $2.5mill

mf


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:11 am EST

BTW, of the big 3 Hall is clearly the best and I'm not guaranteeing he'll be traded. I am saying I'm convinced he (and the other 2) are all available. Hall would arguably be the most impressive chip available anywhere in the league so they'll be (there is) plenty of suitors. Chiarelli is in the driver's seat here, but there's a ton of pressure to get it right. Trading those 3 away and having the team flounder again would be disastrous for him.

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:09 am EST

McDavid was in the top 10 in the league in scoring when he went down with that broken collar bone. He then picked up where he left off when he came back. IMO, they've seen enough of him to know he's the real deal and the consummate block from which to build their team (to the point where they're already considering giving him the C). The big 3 are all on the block - you'll see.

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:06 am EST

TD: I actually don't think Draistal will be moved - he's probably considered part of the new wave alongside McDavid. Hall is available - of that I'm convinced. Regarding Ference, he was signed to play on the top pairing, which was stupid. And Chiarelli didn't sign him - McT did.

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:05 am EST

TD: Buch a top 6er. That's my take on him too but you know how little traction AV generally gives young players. Buch will have to wow AV to make the starting 6 and the first sign of mistakes he'll be in the pressbox. Now that would be interesting to watch because I suspect he'll be the NHL or KHL and how grumpy will he get if AV McI's him next year? Probably a lot.

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:02 am EST

RF4L - We'll see, but I don't suspect Edmonton will trade any of the players we'd want from the franchise. And remember, they only got a taste of McDAVID. You'd need to be a fool GM to move the likes of HALL or DRAISATL...And as far as that team taking on GIRARDI, don't bet on it. They made that mistake with Andrew FERENCE.

tdchi


Thu Apr 28 2016 7:02 am EST

york: I think they'll exploit the Penguin defense. But I suspect that'll happen against the Caps first. And I think the Bolts will come back to win the series anyways.

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 6:55 am EST

RF why can they handle the pens? I don't see it matter of fact I think the pens may end up being the team that just found their game and I think the isles lose to whoever comes out of that series. The isles will take penalties and oitt will kill them with that pp

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 6:53 am EST

Hospo - re: BUCHNEVICH; He's a top-six player...he's someone you want with your top guys. What he'd bring to the Rangers would be utterly wasted with fourth line minutes and mostly wasted on third(though I think SKA had him on a bottom line)...I've got nothing that says he'll only come over to play in the NHL, but I suspect that's the case. Otherwise, he'd be here by now...As always, I'll reserve judgement on his readiness for when he crosses the pond and I get to see him up close...but from what I understand, the kid is ready for the bigtime...to put this in perspective, he's amassed a goal total just below what TARASENKO did his last year in the league and point totals that were better than KUZNETZOV...His only question mark for me is a tendency to float...but that must have improved if SKA had him playing on their checking line...getting beyond that, however...is that the five I listed with Buch scored 118 goals. Rangers were seventh in the league in scoring and just four goals behind the number four spot...I don't think the problem was scoring per se...it was scoring when they needed it...as for JENSEN, you keep calling him an AHLer, but the guy already has 24 NHL games under his belt. Don't think it's a stretch at all to see him playing for the Rangers next year...And TBH, I'd be a fool not to think the Rangers won't both sign a free agent and make a deal that brings back an NHLer...I just wouldn't have a problem with letting the guys I listed start the season...team needs to get back to the basics and get rid of these "star" players who suck up huge contracts and do as close to nothing for them as possible.

tdchi


Thu Apr 28 2016 6:45 am EST

IMO, if Greiss continues to play well and the Islanders do manage to beat the Bolts, they can handle the Pens. The Capitals, however, not so much. That said, it's premature to think too far ahead. Tampa had almost a week off - they were no doubt quite rusty. The next game will probably tell a different story....

RF4L


Thu Apr 28 2016 4:52 am EST

Congrats to Nashville.. Glad to see some different names and faces advance.....

mf


Thu Apr 28 2016 4:44 am EST

HIggy from your mouth to Gortons ears I hope they fired Arneil bring in MSL and sign Stamkos and as much as I like Stepan I'll drive him myself where he gets traded to.

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 4:43 am EST

If the Isles win the cup then AV should certainly be fired without a doubt to not only lose but to have the Isles win it disgraceful. Truth is we all know the Isles are getting better. They have had plenty of top picks to do it but I seriously don't see them getting by either Pitt or Wash.

York18


Thu Apr 28 2016 12:00 am EST

Brutal. Another epic Ducks choke. Saves me a lot of $ on playoff tickets though.

Bob


Wed Apr 27 2016 11:47 pm EST

Glad to see the Ducks waddle out of the playoffs. The last minute of that game was intense as the Ducks had so a bunch of chances to tie it up. Sometimes u got the puck luck ......I wouldn't mind if the Preds win the Cup.....Keep it in the South!

TradeStar28


Wed Apr 27 2016 10:52 pm EST

I would love Stamkos to play here.......would need to trade Stepan though

TradeStar28


Wed Apr 27 2016 9:48 pm EST

I bet Arniel is replaced with Marty St. Louis as Stamkos signs with NYR.

Higgy21


Wed Apr 27 2016 9:28 pm EST

Pretty funny....put on the Nashville/Duck game and it's a snoozefest. Check! Check! Check! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 9:08 pm EST

Tavares with the game winner. Suspect the Bolts had too much time off and were showing and will come back to win the series, but JT's evolution into being a genuine go to guy leader continues. *SIGH*

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 8:38 pm EST

King fish coach got hit in face with the puck ,... Still alive

stevielegs


Wed Apr 27 2016 8:36 pm EST

4-3 2.32 left in 3rd fishtanks leading

stevielegs


Wed Apr 27 2016 8:25 pm EST

http://nerdhockey.com/by-the-numbers/2016/4/24/why-alain-vigneault-failed-the-rangers

stevielegs


Wed Apr 27 2016 8:05 pm EST

which hopefully will lead us back to SHATTENKIRK.......... (Capt. Kirk Stevie?)

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:38 pm EST

Drew you and I both feared the Isles winning the cup and were reassured thst NFW would they win, that they'd be lucky to make the playoffs with their goalies. Well....Greisse, or whatever his name is looks pretty good to me. Worse is the knowledge that theyre a NYC team now..Brooklyn is an Island btw...and if they did win, theyll be raising that cup down the'canyon of hero's'. Its a recurring nightmare.

WIOSA


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:09 pm EST

RF I guess you just got fired and class is over because Ellis just resigned which means you sir are wrong LOL

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 6:52 pm EST

I feared an islander cup this year - here we go.

DREW


Wed Apr 27 2016 6:49 pm EST

Yikes....Islanders up 3 - 1. Tampa looks slow and Bishop sitting back in his net. Kinda like the Rangers!!!

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 6:38 pm EST

Now this is unusual: The east 2nd round has started before the west 1st round is done....

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 6:30 pm EST

Nashville desperately needs offense - Johansen is their number 1 but they still have no number 2. Stepan would fit in there really nicely. Plus the Rangers have a history of dealing with Poile. Furthermore, the Preds easily can absorb Stepan's salary. If they go out tonight, it'll be primarily because they continue to struggle to score. With Rinne and Weber getting older, the window is slowly closing there and there's enormous pressure on Poile to architect a deep PO run.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:59 pm EST

RF: excuse me, I did not read an earlier post of yours which clearly spelled out your approach in dealing with Nashville...

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:54 pm EST

RF, just 4 U: RYAN ELLIS: Signed for 3 more seasons @ $2.5mill per.... And why is Nashville going to trade this guy??? http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?7022

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:51 pm EST

York: Ditto !

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:46 pm EST

And yes, Ellis is available because I say so. You need to pay attention York - I have things to teach you!

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:45 pm EST

York: I did indeed and there were some moves made - a new coach was hired, half the defense was turned over, Talbot was added and they drafted McDavid. Management thought it was enough. They were wrong. They learned the hard way. All of Eberle, Hall and RNH are on the table and I predict at least 2 will be gone this summer, perhaps as soon as the June draft (and perhaps all 3). They are already talking about giving the c to McDavid (silly because it's too early IMO, but that's another story) - it's time to redo the leadership core there in order to help that team become McDavid's.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:20 pm EST

RF You said the same thing last year with Edm and they didn't sell the ship. Matter of fact they what many believed here robbed the Rangers in the talbot trade.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:17 pm EST

TD I think those things will bring back a good team but not next year maybe in three years......................RF Come on Girardi is not worth Hall/Draistal RNH any GM would be a real tool if he took the chance that G is back to his old self and even if he is he's still not worth one of any of those players. How is McD not worth one but G is? I also think those two would get you the top overall pick but nothing more and even then I don't know......BOB I never said he wouldn't want McD I said McD is not worth that dream deal you are posting......Hospo he's an all star player because every team has to be represented, he's not an all star player any other time there are tons of Dmen ahead of him Shea, Keith, Doughtry, Souban, Kharlsson, hell Letang, Burns, Hedman I can go on and on he's not an all star Dman...........RF and Ellis is available because you say so? I don't trade McD unless you can rob someone, he's a top pair shut down Dman and that's a good thing and every team needs that but he's not a PP specialist, and offensive dynamo he's a solid Dman who has some offensive upside he's not bringing you back the first pick over all and if he's not bringing that back then you keep him.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:16 pm EST

Hospo: I can respect that. I guess it's how motivated Gorton is to actually make some changes. Offering up under achieving players with albatross contracts simply ain't gonna get much done in that regard.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:13 pm EST

Hospo: I concur that plenty on here are prematurely giving Buch a spot in the top 6. I'm not saying it cannot happen but it is a stretch for sure. My prediction: He'll do well but his play without the puck will piss of AV and they'll try to send him to Hartford, which he'll balk at and go home to Russia. Hell, he may even negotiate a clause in his contract that stipulates the NHL or KHL and nothing else. All that said, I'm eager to see how he fares in camp (assuming of course, McI is still a Ranger - if he's not and AV is, I'm not watching).

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:12 pm EST

TDCHI - RNH, Eberle and YAJUPOV ar defeinetly the players EDM WANTS to trade but, if they really wanted to ever get any better, DRAISDALL or, most likley, HALL, is the player they will have to trade to get the defense they need if they ever want to break this cycle of crap they ar in...JMWO of course....

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:09 pm EST

TD: Big changes are afoot in Edmonton. What you're saying is what everyone has been saying for like 3 years (no way do they trade the core/anything of significance). They were HORRID this year, despite a new regime. Why? Because the core is tainted and needs to be jettisoned. It's coming. You'll see.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:08 pm EST

RF4L - I think he's more important to the team as a player compared to a chip...ANd also think some evaluations of his trade value a bit low..

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:07 pm EST

TDCHI - No prob with the D but, Wow..I would be nauseous with that forward line up.....BUCH likely won;t even be ready for the NHL...And that bottom two lines scores about 30 goals TOTAL all year...And we have no scoring once again.....Moore is finished---bye bye..LIndberger needs to win a job again...Jensen right now is nothing but an AHLER who needs to win a job..FAST is fine as a 5-10 goal scoring 3rd /4th liner......HRVIK, at best is, FAST lite but more likely a zero....all in all, maybe a team that plays harder, but could easily be a non-PO team...I'd rather get players (young) if I can for Nash, Hayes, Step or Brass.and whoever and I think that will be the way management goes..

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:07 pm EST

You guys are nuts with this Edmonton business. The guys I could see them moving are YAKUPOV(bust), maybe RNH or possibly EBERLE. Why on earth would they move HALL or DRAISATL? Or what will probably be a top-5 pick? Wouldn't make any sense...ESPECIALLY with Chiarelli. Don't forget he basically punched his ticket out of Boston by trading Tyler SEGUIN. Does anyone believe he's going to do the same thing in Edmonton? And while you'll find no bigger McDONAGH fan than I, the Edmonton beat writer is 100 percent correct: He's no generational talent. And while I think he'd drastically improve the Oilers, I just can't see him being the final piece they need to be competitive, since the deal many are suggesting would pull away Edmonton's number one pick AND a guy like Hall.

tdchi


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:06 pm EST

Hospo: Well, G did play well last year - the team overall sucked this year. Besides, he becomes more attractive if/when the Rangers offer to eat some his salary.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:04 pm EST

Hospo: I don't think McD is getting disparaged in here. It's kinda the opposite - given his skillset (legit top pairing d-man) age and salary, he's quite clearly (IMO) Gorton's biggest trading chip. Lots on here are calling for the jettisoning of the likes of Nash and Girardi but given their contracts and rather questionable play, they aren't gonna fetch a whole lot. McD would, especially if paired with another lesser talent. A retool would be hurried along significantly if he's available and the bartering is handled correctly.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:02 pm EST

RF4L - I don't think Girardi's self assessment is gonna carry much weight...other GMs will see the tapes and, more importantly, where the League is going, the advanced statisitcs.....Girardi was a mess...Even if it was health realted, he's a big risk to trade for and wou;ld have to involve future picks based on perfromance and games played

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:01 pm EST

You land Duchene and then you move Stepan to the Preds for Ryan Ellis and a prospect/2nd rounder. Ellis is going under the radar in Nashville because of who's ahead of him there, Nashville's continual relative obscurity and the fact that he's not big. He is talented and would instantly become the Rangers top offensive d-man and help fill the hole that a soon to be handsomely paid Yandle will create. At $2,500,000 for the next 3 years, he'd turn into a fabulous bargain for the Rangers just like KK has.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:59 pm EST

LeoS - "KREIDER MISSES WIDE!!! KREIDER SHOOTS WIDE!!! KREIDER MISSES THE NET!!" Ughhh...it's like on a repeat track in my head. I tell you, all summer that kid should skate pucks from the goal line to the opposing hash marks and crank off clappers at an empty net.

tdchi


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:59 pm EST

BOB - Totally with you on MCD and Girardi..And while I don';t think MCD is untouchable, I think he's getting the bum's rush around here...No, not a Norris Winner but All-Star calibre when healthy..Try to deal Girardi and Staal first....and just about any forward not named Miller and Kreider.....

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:57 pm EST

Bob: If Girardi is correct in his self assessment yesterday and what level of play he feels he'll be at next year, it arguably means Edmonton in a single trade, has fetched themselves a legitimate top pairing duo. That cannot be understated in terms of significance. How often does such a deal present itself, if ever? Rare for sure. Enticing for sure. Hell, that deal could be offered to Colorado for Matt Duchene and their top prospect, Mikko Rantanen (a very highly rated right winger who scored 24 goals and 60 points in 58 AHL games as a 19 year old rookie).

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:54 pm EST

evets - Wholeheartedly agree, re: Drake CAGGIULA...only problem is I haven't seen or heard a single report about him wanting to sign in New York and the only connection the Rangers have to the Sioux is Adam TAMBELLINI, a kid who skated half a season with Caggiula before bailing to juniors. That doesn't mean he won't sign here...but the rumors are that he wants to join one of his linemates, either BOESER in Vancouver or SCHMALTZ in Chicago. Also heard a rumor about him wanting to join HAKSTOL in Philly. And the Flyers are already listing him as a prospect for some reason....the Rangers were NOT on a list of six teams that was published a few weeks back and I suspect part of the reason is that they would want him to start in Hartford. Even if there is a retool, I think the only top-six spot that will be open already has BUCHNEVICH tentatively penciled in...As for STECHER, he's already signed by Vancouver.

tdchi


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:52 pm EST

BTW, if the Oilers end up winning the draft lottery, I concur those 2 won't get that return done. It might fetch the right to draft Matthews and Yakapov, or something like that. The Yotes will pursue the first overall pick hard - the vision of Auston Matthews in a Coyote uniform surely make ownership there drool with anticipation. They'd probably out-bid almost anyone for that right. Maybe, however, the Rangers could then flip that pick to Phoenix for Ryan Strome and Phoenix's first. Just musing here!

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:51 pm EST

And Girardi would be much better in a different system. A non-man to man system that does not depend so much on the defenseman's skating ability. Like the system Torts ran when in NY.

Bob


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:50 pm EST

Look, I don't want the Rangers to trade McDonagh. I like him and his cap-friendly hit right where he is. His cap hit is good for a #3 d-man. Is he Shea Weber, Aaron Ekblad or Duncan Keith? Nope. But unless someone thinks that Skjei is as good as he is and can be his replacement, I want to keep him around. Chiarelli has not done anything in Edmonton but luck into Connor McDavid. He needs to move out some of the Oilers core. Would he trade for McD? I am betting he would.

Bob


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:48 pm EST

York/Bob: Enhance the deal. I gotta think, given their endless problems with their blueline, an offer of McD and Girardi with the Rangers eating $2,000,000 of salary would be very enticing to Edmonton. That might bring their top pick and someone like Draistal/Hall/etc. If Girardi is indeed no longer a top 2 d-man, he's probably capable, if healthy, of top 4 minutes and if not, surely a bottom pairing d-man and at $3,500,000 reasonable given his veteran leadership qualities, something sorely lacking in Edmonton forwards AND defensemen.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:44 pm EST

York - haha, yeah I guess so...think I made my idea of a retool sound a little rosier simply because the three games this team played made me hate the whole lot of them...and my ongoing dislike of NASH has reached epic proportions...you're right in the sense that even if you trade YANDLE, NASH, and maybe HAYES and you don't resign Eric STAAL, there's simply ZERO way that the talent you get back is going to replace the talent you lose. Dead on the money there. But here's another way of looking at it: Losing some of those guys could ultimately end up being addition by subtraction. Even losing those guys and getting, say a late first and a prospect for Nash, a second and a third for Hayes and a third for Yandle's negotiating rights, I think you end up ahead of the game both in the short and long run. You get about $10 million in cap space to play with. You retool the system. But most of all, you get rid of a whole lot of dead weight...players that really didn't display any degree of urgency or accountability in their play. I wouldn't have much of an issue going into next year with Miller-Kreider-Stepan, Zucc-Brass-Buchnevich, Fast-Lindberg-Jensen, Hrivik-Moore-Stalberg, McD-Klein, Skjei-Girardi, Staal-McIlrath.

tdchi


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:38 pm EST

Bob also forgot Chiarelli is very well acquainted with who McD is and will not be robbed, remember what he gave up for the Prince? He's not a stupid man.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:36 pm EST

Bob you really think McD is worth a top three pick in this years draft and a top pick prospect? This is the same guy that came here for Gomez, the same guy that isn't a PP specialist and is good 5 on 5 and is more a shut down Dman. This is not a Norris level D man despite what you want to believe he is worth a Mid first and a project he is not worth two top 3 picks not in a million years.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 4:29 pm EST

The Edmonton media has evaluated McDonagh? The same folks that said that Ales Hemsky was untouchable and worth at least 2 #1 picks, or that Sam Gagner was an absolute untouchable? Want to know why they still suck? MacTavish believed the baloney their media was selling.

Bob


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:49 pm EST

EVET I guess you missed the article in EDM where they don't feel he's worth anything close to what you think McD is worth. Hes considered a second tier Dman and a bottom second tier Dman at that. He;s not worth a top three pick let alone getting a prospect of Draistl level. I think you have wishful thinking going for you.........................RHET Skeij is a left D not a right.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:48 pm EST

I don't think AV was out to get MCilrath either..But I also think he didn't like his game or thought it was what the Rangers needed...Two mistakes...Mcilrath started slowly but when he was playing with regular ice time he handled everything thrown his way..including getting the puck out of the zone.....AV watched him play....but obviosuly didn't value what Mcilrath could bring over the game of Girard and the great offense of Boyle.....Again, he wasn't out to get Mcilrath, just the way he gauges the Ranger's need and an example of poor decision making by the caoch......Whne it fianlly became apparent to AV that he was wrong or that injury forced his hand again, iot was too late to get the rusat off in the POs after sitting...OTOH, SKEJI was playing regurlaly all year, even if mosotly in hartford

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:33 pm EST

.Should be... I don't feel like AV's out to get Wrath.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:32 pm EST

York... I don't feel like AV's not out to get Wrath. The kid was behind the 8 ball from the beginning. He had 6 high priced veteran's ahead of him, who did we think was going to play more? My impression is that AV is old school where you bring along most rookies slowly. You don't give them more than they can handle and you don't put them in a position where they can fail in big situations. Guys like Mcdonagh or Skjei are the exception to the rule. They play with the confidence of a veteran early on in their careers. I expect Wrath to have a big role with the team next season. I also expect to see him play more on the PP and PK. If we trade Girardi, our TOP three RD end up being Klein, Wrath and Skjei. The only thing we have in the system that's of any real substance on the right side is Sergey Zborovskiy and we just drafted the kid... .If I do end up being wrong about it and he is traded? ...then you and I will meet up at MSG the day after and I'll bring the pitchforks and you bring the torches.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:24 pm EST

The Rangers need a few things for next year but one of the tops on my list is a "skilled irritant/pest/asshole"...Anjybody have any suggestions? Might have to overpay but it would be worth it..

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:17 pm EST

DOUBLEN - Yeah, RF4L showed me that a bit ago..Although the first two years and last 4 aren't bad, I agree it's a bit too much..Better to get him healthy, then deal him with some money...

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:14 pm EST

HOSPO: To buy out Girardi it would be the following cap hit for the next 8 years.. $1.750/$2.750/$3.750/$3.750/the last 4 years are $1.250. Just way too much dead cap space.

DOUBLEN


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:10 pm EST

EVETS - why apologize? he's not even gonna be a Ranger fan after June...

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:09 pm EST

DOUBLEN - Girardi had come to my mind if his injuries make him untradeable and a buyou could help (doesn't sound like it though)...I think all the rest of the players can be traded if we want...Except maybe The King and his king sized contract..

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:06 pm EST

Gorton and the Rangers are in a real tough spot this off season. They HAVE to retool... that goes without saying. However, if they plan on keeping Lundqvist (and there is no indication that they have any other plan for him) then they have to put themselves in a position to continue to contend for the playoffs. That means throwing every free dollar at Steven Stamkos. That would require the Rangers to move Nash. Not sure what they can get for him. Probably a few picks and prospects. Now, I've said it before and I'll say it again, if the Rangers really want to reshuffle the deck with this team, they need to move McDonagh to Edmonton, perhaps along with someone like Hayes for their first rounder and maybe Leon Draisatl; maybe more... I don't know. That high pick can be used to take one of Austen Matthes, Patrick Laine, Jesse Puljujärvi, or if the Rangers want to replace McDonagh with a stud defensive prospect, they can take Jacob Chychrun. With Draisatl in the fold, the Rangers can continue to wheel and deal and move Stepan at the draft before his NTC kicks in, perhaps for another high draft pick and prospect. IF the Rangers can sign Stamkos in the offseason, then Gorton can continue to reshape this team by moving Brassard. I'd like to see them resign Staal at a reasonable amount, maybe 4.5 mil and go out and sign Jamie McGinn at around 4 mil. We'd have a lineup that looks something like this with a team salary at around $70 million with raises for Kreider, Stalberg, Miller, McIlrath, Raanta, resigning Yandle at 6.5 mil. and dealing Girardi and retaining 1/3 of his salary (about 1.9 million). FANTASY LINEUP: Miller-Stamkos-(top draft pick: Matthews/Laine/Puljujärvi), Kreider-Draisatl-Zuccarello, McGinn-Staal-Buchnevich, Stalberg-Lindberg-Fast, Yandle-Skjei, Staal-Klein, Graves-McIlrath. YORK... I apologize... I know you hate this kind of speculation.

evets1980


Wed Apr 27 2016 3:00 pm EST

RHET I'm not leaving if AV stays I leave if AV stays and Wrath goes that will be it for me until he's gone and GOrton. As for the Yanks How many championships do they have again, and how many do the Rangers have? A little easier to be more forgiving being a Yanks fan.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 2:57 pm EST

HOSPO: You can still buy out players, but they will count against the cap. Who are you thinking of buying out ?

DOUBLEN


Wed Apr 27 2016 2:57 pm EST

E but you could easily say he lost the locker room. Repeatedly he stated in the media that the team needed to do this or that and they didn't. That they weren't picking up there coverage, that they weren't pressing the other team. How many times did he say I don't know what happened tonight, I thought they were ready before the game and they were prepared but they just didn't come out to play. Look at the comments from Brassard, Hank, Girardi, McD all back handed comments towards the coach. Hayes laughed in his face when AV called him out in the media stating that AV was wrong, how the hell can he have this team when the kids aren't even taking him seriously? You say he earned his way to having another kick at the can, how exactly did he earn his way, MSLs mom doesn't pass that would have been a whole different year, not to mention the key thing here is what has been the biggest change in this team? Accountability and leadership and who was obviously doing that the last couple years Richards and MSL. Funny how it was MSL who read Hags the riot act in practice for goofing around and not the coach that speaks volumes.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 2:54 pm EST

E.... I totally agree. AV was not my first choice either, but you make due. I was never a fan of the way he coached in the Finals with Vancouver or us for that matter. My biggest issues with him are in the postseason more than anything else. I get a chuckle out of NYR fans that say they are dumping the team if AV stays on. Really?Being a fan is quitting if you don't get your way? Having been a Yankee fan that lived through the 70's and 80 'Bronx Zoo' era and all the crap Steinbrenner did to the team, I just laugh.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 27 2016 2:49 pm EST

E - Toally disagree....He had the talent to get those 100 point seasons...The coaching wasn't there to put it all together..Just like in Vancouver.. Actually, I think, he did some good things the previous years...but not enough,,..This past year he totally failed as a coach....no orgnaiztion, no chemistry, no identity, no passion, no consistency...He had all year to develop it and did NOTHING...Who wants continuity of that? Not me.....The East adapted or conformed to the Rangers, past by them in certain depratments, AV failed to change..failed to adpat to the changing situation, failed to use his personnel as they could be used instead of what he wanted......To me, the ultimate decision on a coach is about whether he got the most out of individuals and as a team.......Honeslty, I look at the Rangers and saw nothing but disappointments individaullay except for KLEIN, STALBERG, FAST and MILLER and, as a team, even worse....I'll take a new start over continuity of that any day..

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 2:45 pm EST

RF4L.... Stepan's NMC does not kick in until July 1st of 2017 and in the final 2 years of his deal he also has a Limited NTC. We can live with It. Why did Gorton give Stepan that NMC/LNTC? Because that's what all of the comparable centers to Stepan were getting. We have Ryan O'Reilly to thank for the dollar amount and the clause, but I guess that's beside the point. Also, why should we get rid of our best center and probably the best forward on the team? Because some fans don't like him? Maybe you trade him if you sign a Stamkos or someone similar, but that's about it.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 27 2016 2:37 pm EST

I'll re-state from my perspective. I didn't want AV as coach. It's a philosophical thing. But now that he's the coach I simply cannot see the logic of dumping a coach who took a team to the SCF, ECF, and finished this seasons debacle with still 100-points. That is unless somebody could show something deeper like: he lost the locker room. I believe firmly in continuity. So now, I see two criteria going forward to continue to get his back. He's got to develop the kids and still maintain a high level of play thru 82+ and a solid showing in the playoffs. If not? I'm all in on calling for his removal. I just don't see the benefit of making a move right now. That stated, I'll still piss and moan about his overarching game plan. i just don't wanna see instability because of an early exit. I think he's earned a chance to work his way thru this challenge.

E


Wed Apr 27 2016 2:21 pm EST

RF I'm shocked that Gorton didn't change his way of doing things knowing full well that this team needs to start using its picks and there he goes trading away another couple of second rounders this one is even worse than the rest because Staal will walk now and did nothing in the process. You could argue that MSL and Yandle at least had a couple years here. This is on par with the Clowe deal.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:58 pm EST

No pick for the young talent challenged Rangers until number 77. Ridiculous and bad management all around IMO.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:56 pm EST

RF there were none to give up and Carolina wanted an immediate return and I bet had Staal had a little bit better of a year a first rounder would have went in that deal.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:48 pm EST

LeoS: Gorton engineered Stepan's new deal and guess what? After July 1 a NMC! LOLOLOLOL. He has a window to get out from under that - will he take advantage of it? I sure hope so.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:47 pm EST

york: It sure does. At least no first rounder was given up....GORTON SUCKS!

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:46 pm EST

Hospo: Yes, all teams can buy-out any player, save for those who signed at 35 and older and the few stlll on those front end loaded deals (I believe Marian Hossa might be the only one left). The penalty is prohibitive, however. Someone posted the buy-out cost for Girardi the other day - it would cost the Rangers a cap hit of $1,75, $2,75, $3,75, $3,75 for the first 4 years and then $1,25 for 4 years after that. IMO, the Rangers would be better off eating 1/3 of his salary and getting a decent draft pick/prospect for him in a trade vs the buyout.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:42 pm EST

RF what went in the Staal deal a prospect who will be playing in the NHL in the next year or so and two second round picks, does that not sound an awful lot like the last three or four deals made here? Yandle prospect who can play and picks, MSL player who can play and picks? Do you see a trend?

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:33 pm EST

We can at least hope Gorton has learned not to give out NMCs like they're, say...........New York Rangers draft picks ;)

LeoS


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:28 pm EST

OK, I asked the question the other day about BUYOUTS..but nobody answered...REading about other teams like MINN and PHIL getting cap space by Buying out players....Can that still be done? Can the Rangers do it? Or is it the buyouts leftover from the last labor agreement that the Rangers already used up?.....................................One team to look at for possible trades in MINNESOTA

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:25 pm EST

York18 - Persoanlly, I couln't care less about Sather anymore...True or not, going forward Gorton gets the credit or blame from me.............While I can see an aging Sather still being part of defining the direction. the moves will be (or continue to be) up to Gorton....I though he did so-so last year

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:22 pm EST

IF Gorton engineered the last 3 trades (or more), I will be soon be free of the torture of being a Ranger fan because 1) AV will stay forever and 2) more horrible trades compromising the future will occur 3) McI will finally get jettisoned. In other words, if this is how Gorton operates the Rangers will suck for YEARS!

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:21 pm EST

that should say when Gorton WASN'T

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:18 pm EST

HOSPO I think it's bullshit for people to just hate on Sather. Why would Gorton stay if he had to just follow whatever Sather says and has zero power? He had multiple opportunities to go GM for other teams and not stay in NY. No person in their right mind would stay if they didn't have the actual power of the title that goes with it when they can anywhere else. This is Gortons team, he has headed some of the deals we all hate now and Sather seems to get blamed no matter what. I find it funny that when Gorton was assistant GM Sather put the core of this team in place that would be what was the back bone to this franchise and its winning. Boneheaded moves came when Gorton came along and funny how the same MO continues after Sather steps down as GM, must be Sather.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:17 pm EST

Hospo - no doubt. Torts, for one, would probably love to have him again.

LeoS


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:15 pm EST

LeoS - Girardi is just not made for AV's defensive scheme...Yes, he has gone downhill but I actually think he could still be a solid 2nd-3rd pair D-man in the right scheme...but that won't be an AV coached Ranger squad...So, let's hoe to god somebody else wants him (and money) or, better yet, AV IS CANNED!!

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:13 pm EST

On a non-hockey note: as I listen to these player interviews...what is that chattering noise? Cameras? If so, I can't imagine that many photographers are using film cameras nowadays and for the rest of them: Go to Settings > Shutter Sound > Off :)

LeoS


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:12 pm EST

Higgy... The maximum length the NYR can sign Stamkos to would be a 7-year deal. Only Tampa could sign him to an 8-year deal. He would just turn 33 by the end of a 7-year deal.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:12 pm EST

York18 - Yep....All that is possible..as well as could be meanignless..We'll never know..What we do know, is that GORTON is now the GM and this is what he gets judged on....I shouldnt have used the word "puppet" but the fact is that Gorton is still part of a heirarchy..And yes, it's quite possible they all have the same philosophy......but at some point GORTON will have to look out for his job......Will be a very interesting off-season......Personally, I'd let somebody else like TOR get Stamkos..but would try very hard for HALL..and every single Ranger is tradeable and dumpable....While everybody wants to deal NASH, and I agree, a player like MZA might be more valuable to other teams.

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 1:06 pm EST

Girardi was in decline from the start of the season, many people here were noting it well before his knee injury.

LeoS


Wed Apr 27 2016 12:48 pm EST

Let me get this straight so far all the excuses are in place for Gorton blaming Sather, meanwhile no one takes into consideration that Gorton did a lot of the dealing for Sather the last couple years and that he was the assistant GM, he had a chance to go somewhere else why would he stay if he was nothing more than a puppet with no say? He had his way out to where he could have been GM in a couple of places no one thinks of this or the fact that Gorton is also a problem as HE is the guy who loves giving away draft picks, look what he gave up for Staal or are we blaming that on Sather too? Denial is something strong here.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 12:45 pm EST

What we need is to move and eat some salary on Nash. Allow Eric to go back to Carolina, and hopefully convince Marc to go there. I don't mind Girardi for one more season to see what he really does have left. In one more yr, his contract becomes a limited no trade clause, which could make things a little easier. Move one of Stepan or Brassard, and move one of Kreider or Hayes. I do want Stamkos, but no longer than 6-7 yrs. I would definitely move McDonagh and make Klein Captain, but we all know that would never happen.

Higgy21


Wed Apr 27 2016 12:40 pm EST

E.... Hopefully, we sign Stamkos first and then make some strategic trades after to get younger and also excise some payroll. The last thing we need to do is gut the team and then miss out on signing Stamkos (which would be old school NYR).... Savior? No. He does however have a lot of the intangibles that this team is missing .

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 27 2016 12:40 pm EST

The question is, how much power and control does GORTON actually have? Yes, he's the GM but Sather is still there above him....I could easily see Gorton retooling/going younger/dealing respected Rangers to build HIS team....OTOH, if he's just a puppet and Sather makes the calls still...I'm betting on sideways moves for the same type of players and the same ages........And until I hear for sure that he is coming back.......CAN AV!!!!

Hospo


Wed Apr 27 2016 12:26 pm EST

E - funny, I had this gut-wrenching moment yesterday evening when Ithought about AV decrying the overall state of his defense and envisioned AV lobbying to get Subban.

LeoS


Wed Apr 27 2016 12:22 pm EST

WIOSA - Streaky and inconsistent for Kreider but not Nash? Last season Nash had a career year (the outlier, imo, he's more a 25-low30 goal guy historically) in which he still reverted to Playoff Rick Nash - leaving us in the lurch as I angrily posted at the end of last season. This season, as TD pointed out, we hardly missed a beat in his absence. I looked up career playoff stats and was quite surprised to see Nash: 65gp 12g 24a, Kreider: 65gp 20g 13a. Now look at their relative salaries (and what help losing each player's cap hit might bring back) and what stage of their career each is at (CK upside imo, we've likely seen the best Nash has to offer)... So how do you justify ditching CK but not the Fearsome Backchecker? And believe me, I'm as sick as the next person of hearing "Kreider misses the net wide" and its many variants.

LeoS


Wed Apr 27 2016 12:15 pm EST

Why am I terrified that the NYR are gonna gut this team is some bumbling way and we'll end up with Stamkos? Our latest franchise savior. Dread this thought.

E


Wed Apr 27 2016 11:51 am EST

EVETS I think TD was talking about the Cagullia and that he already has interest signing somewhere forgot where.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 11:42 am EST

E, I'll look over there cap situation tonight and then answer you... The cap in and of itself may be in the drivers seat for them, hence the need for youths, feeder system, low dollar UFA signings...

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 11:38 am EST

MF: how much do you think St. Louis is gonna want to change if they go deep into the playoffs? They look every bit a contender as the other WC teams.

E


Wed Apr 27 2016 11:32 am EST

The Rangers need to look at North Dakota for college free agent signings this year: Junior defenseman Troy Stecher and Senior winger Drake Caggulia.

evets1980


Wed Apr 27 2016 11:21 am EST

WIOSA there is an old saying are you hurt or are you injured there is a difference. The coach can see the difference. If a player comes back and his play is suffering and he's hurting the team then I don't care if it's your best player or not if he's hurting your team he's not your best player any more. When a player starts hurting your team he is your worst, or one of your worst players at that moment. This is why I wonder how many people coached here because your job as a coach is to see what is hurting the team and fix it within your power and this was within AVs power.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 10:51 am EST

YORKIE....On Nash, this was a lousy year for him....I don't see a repeat.

WIOSA


Wed Apr 27 2016 10:19 am EST

YORKIE I said you and I are on the same page with Dylan . AV apparently doesn't see a good defensive game from him, there are others who don't either. I don't see why they're saying. Are there defensive lapses in his game? Yes...expected from any player, especially a rookie. Either way he had far less than Girardi. .....DG' s concussion, no I don't think he's lying I think he's talking about the after effects and being rusty. He was cleared to play. ....Look around the league they ALL have ailments. Last season one of the Bolts triplets played with a broken hand..Callahan came back seven days from an appendectomy. Players play hurt.

WIOSA


Wed Apr 27 2016 10:00 am EST

WIOSA G said he still had symptoms so he's lying? You don't see a good defensive game in Dylans play? Really, what did you see then, he must have really sucked and everyone but you and AV were the only two to see it. You have no excuse for Gs knee I noticed you glossed right over this, and Nash isn't a third line winger what is 15 goals and a back checker? Oh that's right a third line winger. If you call Kreider inconsistent what is Nash who he outscored. I'd circle back to Wrath but it's a waste of time if you don't think he has a good defensive game which leads me again to wonder what you are watching if you're watching him play.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 9:55 am EST

YORKIE...nope not kidding..DG didn't still have a concussion or he wouldn't have been cleared to play. As for a good replacement, you and I are on the same page with Dylan, Coach is not. I could go for he dislikes Dylan's work ethic, but his work ethic is fine...and let's face it Hayes is out there. I could say he's worried about penalties, but Dylan took none last game. I could say AV doesn't trust rookies, but Brady was put on a first pairing, in a playoff! It seems obvious he doesn't see a good defensive game in Dylan's play. He is not alone...I don't see it, but others do. .....As for Kreider and Hayes, Kreider is an enigma, streaky an d inconsistant. Hayes is a little harder, he shows more promise, but lousy work ethic..IMHO. For the record, Nash is NOT a third line winger.

WIOSA


Wed Apr 27 2016 9:51 am EST

And we move Girardi for whatever we can get...

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 9:49 am EST

York18: I'd ascertain what the Blues feel Hayes is worth... If not Hayes, maybe they're interested in Nash and we eat $alary if need be for Shattenkirk...... Also, I would not resign Moore, and I'd trade Glass

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 9:24 am EST

RF, Step an and McDonagh cost $11.2mill...Edmonton would subtract $6mill from that byoving Hall, RNH, Eberle........ As for the UFA signings, Loui Eriksson LHS, Backes RHS is more of what we need than Ladd IMO, Brouwer RHS, ...... Boedker LHS may be available for around $4.5-$5mill, fast skater....

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 9:23 am EST

AV is either the biggest fool in coaching or he didn't want staal and he's not the biggest fool despite what some think. He never once used him in a way that would bring out the best in Staal. Despite Vics love of Hayes he was a huge problem constantly turning the puck over in the neutral zone, hard to get offense when you can't get in the zone. I guess Vic believes that if Hayes passes you the puck once or twice in a game it should go in the net since it came from the golden one LMAO. Staal was saddled with two non scoring players, not used with players that better fit his style Miller/Kreider and AV just buried him there without once making moves that tells me he never wanted him here.

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 9:20 am EST

WIOSA Are you kidding me? You can't be serious, I don't care if his friggin leg was dangling by a thread of skin and he wanted to go back out there if it hurts the team you don't do it PERIOD. AV had a viable player in Wrath and he played well really well while G was out, but instead he rushes him back and puts him in when he CLEARLY couldn't play THAT IS ON THE COACH. As for concussions I'm calling bullshit in todays day NO PLAYER wants to rush back from a concussion don't give me that crap Now you'd trade Kreider and Hayes before Nash who is a scorer? Yeah sometimes and not in the playoffs, I don't know what hockey you watch but it isn't the same game I watch where keeping an 8 mil a year third liner is good hockey dump Hayes yes, Kreider not a chance and you thinking Nash is a keeper is just insane IMO he has been a horrid pickup for this team his lack of intensity was reflected by the whole team this year, sorry I want that culture removed from this team, go watch Wendel Clark play Nash couclnd't carry his jock strap to the rink................TD you make it sound easier than it is, sorry. First who is going to want Nash and second what kind of return is he really going to bring back? He's not going to bring in the return that was sent to bring him he that's for sure. Trade Yandles rights? Okay for what a fourth rounder? That does nothing to help the team this coming year. I agree Skeij jumps into his spot, Wrath into Boyles, You lose Nash and bring in Buch IF he comes over and IF he's ready for the NHL right out of camp, that's not a huge deal considering Nash had 15 goals this year hardly something that can't be replaced. Now comes the questions that still have to be answered where does Hayes play, and Lindberg, you get Ladd okay maybe I just don't see this team being any better than this year with everything you just said. I see the same problems leaderless team as this year.....................MF I see you have shettenkirk Klein Wrath where is girardi and what is bringing Shat here and don't say girardi..................

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 9:08 am EST

MF I dont think it was spite..we have a glut of centres, all but one have trouble scoring I might add. So we go out and get -drum roll please- a centre, who is having trouble scoring. If AV was consulted, that's cause for concern, if he wasn't, it was probably AV' s way of saying.."WTF??!!"

WIOSA


Wed Apr 27 2016 8:55 am EST

Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance...... Penguins have signed undrafted free agent D Lukas Bengtsson to ELC. Big playoff w/Frolunda, lots of interest. Great skater. High hockey IQ.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 27 2016 8:49 am EST

TD... The Blues have stated several times that they are seeking a Hockey Trade, qualifying that by saying players for players.... Their RHD are Pietrangelo on the first pair, Shattenkirk 2nd, ? On3rd, and a RHS Panyanko or something playing the Left Side although he's a RHS who they want to move to the right........ Vic, thinking of trading Girardi is easy, moving him and his contract, another story... RF, your comment on Staal makes me wonder if there was any spite in AV towards management, and that's why he used E Staal the way he did... Spite or no spite, grounds for dismissal IMO...

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 8:22 am EST

Vic: Trade Stepan to Nashville for Ryan Ellis and a pick. Ellis is a smooth puck handling defenseman with offensive flair - precisely what Boyle was supposed to be.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 8:08 am EST

RF: That is why I responded to BOB the other day that I didn't think AV wanted anything to do with STAAL. I think that was a SATHER/GORTON move, and that they more or less "saddled" AV with STAAL. And for all the folks who want to blame STAAL's lack of production on HITLER, give me a break. HITLER setup STAAL on many occasions when they played together and STAAL couldn't score. That is on STAAL, not on HITLER. There is no way I want STAAL back on this team. He isn't a top 6 player anymore. He will be even less productive then NASH. And if the Rangers are interested in having him back as a third liner please move on. I'd rather have a younger, faster and less expensive player in that role. I'd rather have LINDBERG in that role then STAAL.

Vic


Wed Apr 27 2016 8:02 am EST

Lets take these one at a time. First, lets talk about the right side D. BOYLE is gone (THANK GOD). GIRARDI's play this past year was severely hampered by his knee injury. With his contract, NMC and play this past year it is difficult to imagine he would be moved. There would be few teams interested unless the Rangers ate salary and they really can't afford to do that. Plus, I think GIRARDI will have a much better year next year. I don't know if he can ever be a #1 right side defender again but I don't know that the Rangers have any other options. KLEIN will be back and he has been great.....when he is used properly. I think KLEIN was fantastic as a #2 right side D, and that is where he should stay for now. When he was asked to assume the #1 duties he faltered. He couldn't handle it and his play dropped off a lot down the stretch of the season. Thinking KLEIN should be the Rangers #1 right side D is a huge mistake IMHO. And finally, I think McILRATH will be the Rangers 3rd pair right side D next year. Does AV have the same faith in McILRATH that he has in SKJEI? Definitely not. But I think McILRATH will do fine in that role. The only X factor in the analysis of the Right Side D is SKJEI. If the Rangers feel that SKJEI can play the right side on a day to day basis that could change things. Assuming YANDLE isn't resigned that would mean one other left side D would have to make the team. Is GRAVES ready? Would BODIE get a shot?

Vic


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:55 am EST

mf - I think you're dreaming about SHATTENKIRK. I don't think St. Louis has any reason to trade him before the deadline next year unless a team is giving them something like the haul the Yotes got for YANDLE. And that, my friend, is a non-starter with the Rangers.

tdchi


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:54 am EST

And I know it's been mentioned on here already but E Staal sure wasn't pleased with the way AV used him, rightfully so IMO. The strange use of Staal is another, for me anyways, example of the oftentimes baffling roster moves courtesy of the head coach. Alas, what that ultimately did I suspect is ensure Staal won't resign (assuming AV isn't fired) which if true, can be compared to the stupid Clowe trade and perhaps is even worse. That in turn means Gorton's first trade without holding Sather's hand can be deemed a miserable failure. And to think he's apparently about to start a retooling effort. Yikes....makes me nervous to ponder.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:52 am EST

WIOSA - while I would be lying to say the Rangers won't miss Rick NASH, we got a pretty good look at what the team would look like without him when he went down for 15-plus games last winter, and they really didn't skip a beat. Nash was fifth in team scoring and six goals away from tying for fifth. Now here's the scary part: LINDBERG, who was eighth on the team, was just two goals shy of Nash's total with eight more games. And that's the point in Nash: We've relied too long on him scoring the big goals...but he doesn't. There's always an illusion that he does because he does pump in a nice one here and there(see the shorty vs. Pittsburgh)...He's on the other side of 30 and though he plays sound defense, he simply can't be the player that he's being paid to be, which is the speartip of the Rangers' offense. He just doesn't have it in him...and I'd argue he never did...Trading HAYES and KREIDER would be easy. There are plenty of teams that would line up for either...and in Hayes' case, I think you're right: The Rangers should look hard into moving him if they can get a good return. But the first on my list to trade is Nash. His contract versus what he brings to the ice. It's a simple decision too, when five other players are scoring more than 20 goals and all of them are between three and seven years younger than Nash.

tdchi


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:48 am EST

Seems like we & the league will now wait until this Saturdays Lottery announcement for the "Mathews Sweepstakes." Hopefully Edmonton wins it. My second choice is that Colorado wins it.... Then watch teams shower them with love to try to work out a deal..... "Love is in the air......." I could vomit on A-Vishysoisse........

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:47 am EST

mf: I know - but that doesn't mean it gives Gorton carte blanche to make the same mistake(s) again. He needs to be very careful about handing out more Girardi/Staal and Nash deals IMO.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:45 am EST

RF: we can eat salary IF we shed enough of it...... This could show up by taking back an unwanted contract from a trade partner, which hopefully we could turn around and flip for a pick, or eat some salary if we're moving a Nash, Girardi, Staal.......

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:42 am EST

Righty

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:41 am EST

Real Simple: to reshape the D'corps.... Trade for Shattenkirk.... he has 1 year remaining @ $4.25mill, and if he is getting bumped to $5.5-$6mill per, at 27 y/o & a RHS, may be a better bang for the buck compared to Yankle... With SKJEI's recent display of mobility, I'd gor for the rughty.....This move leaves us with KLEIN / SHATTENKIRK / MCILRATH down the right, & MCDONAGH / STAAL / SKJEI down the left....... NEXT: want to talk talk about moving McDonagh or M.Staal? OK, go from there.....

mf


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:38 am EST

TD, On Boyle, I too am saddened that he chose to create a scene as his last goodbye story, when the story should've been his excellent career. The other thing he did, a pet peeve of mine, is claim"nobody respects you" speak for yourself, and in private....As to the tweaking, have you forgotten we can't score? This team just can't score. I would move Hayes and Kreider before I moved Nash. This was a lousy, injury plagued year for Rick, he's a scorer and terrific on defense. As always JMHO.

WIOSA


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:35 am EST

TD: I can align to your proposals, except the Ladd piece. What I don't want to see is the Rangers go out and sign another veteran on the downside of 30 to a long term fat contract, which Ladd will be getting. Been there, done that. Too often.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:34 am EST

even = if

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:33 am EST

McD wouldn't bring back a top 3 pick and someone like Hall. However, he and Stepan might, even the Oilers could stomach the $10,000,000 in salary that would mean.

RF4L


Wed Apr 27 2016 7:07 am EST

York - Totally agree. This notion that McDONAGH(who I think Edmonton does underrate) would bring back a HALL-type player AND a high first is dreaming. Think you could probably get the high first and a prospect...but what some have been musing about here and what Brooksie lifted without credit is just about as pie-in-the-sky as Edmonton wanting to pick up GIRARDI'S contract...where we diverge thought is I don't think this team is a difficult fix. When I started thinking about the offseason, I was initially thinking they'd need to retool a la the Bruins last year...but the more I think about it, there are a few substantive tweaks that can be made to bring this team back into the fold...more or less like what Washington did...losing a few long-time players(WARD and BROUWER) and bringing in new blood(OSHIE and WILLIAMS) First and foremost is solving the issue on the right side. BOYLE is gone and that's addition by subtraction. Tough part is determining whether Girardi's drop in play was related solely to his injury or just an overall decline in his play...either way, I don't think another team is going to take him on to find out, so I suspect he's here. Next, TRADE NASH. It's gotta happen. Management has to go to him and explain in plain English that while he's not the root of the problems, he's not a good fit and the organization is moving into the future. I'm sure there's a willing suitor for Nash. Just the question is whether its some place where he'd accept the deal...Then decision-time on YANDLE. And that's an easy one: See ya. Trade his rights to anyone who will listen. As good as he was at times, he still didn't push the Rangers' PP into the top 15 in the league and that was what he was brought in to do. Sad to lose everything that we did in that trade and the Nash deal(and the Staal deal for that matter), but such is life. So if all this goes down, the question is who comes back. BUCHNEVICH, if he's coming over, will hop into the top nine. And someone will need to jump into Nash's spot. SKJEI jumps into Yandle's slot. Then it's a matter of rounding out the lineup. I'd see what Andrew LADD wants in a contract...he's about the only UFA I'd go after unless Staal would take a big pay cut(which I doubt he will) Core is good here. All it needs are tweaks.

tdchi


Wed Apr 27 2016 6:35 am EST

On Brooksie and Boyle - Guys, also remember Brooks wrote that stupid "Zed's Dead" article, which probably won him no fans in the Rangers' locker room. Brooks is a known commodity and I won't stick up for him at all because he's just like the paper he writes for...but that said, you're a professional hockey player leaving a team and possibly the NHL after a somewhat storied career came to an ignoble end. Don't try to shift the narrative. Don't try to deflect for your team's blisteringly apparent shortcomings. Play it honest. Leave the sport a professional. Blaming the media or in this case, berating the media is simply weak sauce. Don't like Brooks? Pull him aside and tell him. Don't do it in front of a billion cameras.

tdchi


Wed Apr 27 2016 6:33 am EST

...in defense of AV, who I don't think was so God awful, in pro sports, ummmm players play. Injured. It's a fact of life. Always has been. In fact, most of the players WANT to play, nobody has to make them. This is not just a quirk by this coach. FTR this holds true for the NFL - most sports actually - as well.

WIOSA


Wed Apr 27 2016 6:27 am EST

Girardi, his knee explains a lot, why he was slower, why he had trouble with strength and why he had trouble pivoting to come back on a player. That is on AV big time, you can't play your number one pair Dman with a bum leg against top pairs. Then puts him in with concussion symptoms unbelievable. To thinkthat AVs job is safe is criminal.............................Trading players that Edm article is very accurate in terms of over worth and the unreal expectations people have for return. Hank is this teams only superstar and that is it, people got over worked when McD was mentioned as a Norris player etc he's not, he's not in that catagory, like mentioned he's below a Kris Letang in most realities this guy will bring back a 5-10 first rounder and a project no way a top three and another top three prospect. Reality needs to set in and realize this is not an over night fix trading players away the team will get a little worse before it gets better,

York18


Wed Apr 27 2016 6:09 am EST

“With the group we have here, it’s a great group of guys and it’s a great team,” Girardi said. “One hundred one points, for a lot of teams that’s a really solid year. We still have to give ourselves a little recognition that we still got 100 points in a league where there’s no easy games. At the same time I say that, we know we can be a lot better than that. Keep it a lot more consistent, a lot of ups and downs this year, a lot of streaks where we were really bad for a bunch of games and good for one. That’s not going to get us where we need to be, ready for playoffs. If we lose in five games, we play our hardest every game and we don’t get a bounce or we lose in overtime, we’re not going to live with it but maybe we can sleep at night a little better. To go out like we did, didn’t have really a lot of pushback, it’s a tough one to swallow I think.”

stevielegs


Wed Apr 27 2016 6:07 am EST

anyone remember Paille ?.....don't forget to vote in nydn, and newsday....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:55 am EST

still hope...."Vigneault’s own status hasn’t been affirmed, but he was allowed to handle exit interviews with players Tuesday. That might indicate he’ll be back, though John Tortorella did the same and lasted less than a week. Vigneault wouldn’t say if his assistants, notably Scott Arniel and Ulf Samuelsson, are assured of being back, noting that he and Rangers GM Jeff Gorton agreed to put off all analysis for a week to 10 days. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/27/rangers-vigneault-there-must-be-changes-this-difficult-summer/#comment-2728249

stevielegs


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:54 am EST

gross..."...Do the Rangers try to trade the veteran, a definite core member of the Rangers? Or, if they can’t move him do they consider a buyout? Girardi is confident that this season’s performance will wind up being an aberration in his career, and not a signal that, at 31, the wear and tear on his body has become too much. “Not bad,” Girardi said when asked how he felt. “The knee is getting better. Obviously I’m going to take this time to rest and recuperate and use the full month and training period in the summer to make sure everything is feelingg good and be in the best shape I can be for next year.” Girardi was also asked whether he is confident he can be the steady player he’s been in the past. “One hundred percent I can be,” Girardi said. “That’s why they signed me to a long-term deal. Obviously this year wasn’t the best for me and the whole team but I think I can be the player I was in the past. I’m using this summer to be ready and this is the turning point for me, I think.” But, Girardi was further asked, does he believe management is still committed to him. That was not an easy one to answer. “Well, I think so,” Girardi said. “Not much has been discussed. They have to do their thing. I’m ready to be my best next year. That’s not my decision to make. I’m not the coach or the GM or the president. That’s not my division. I’m just a player and I’ve got to be ready to be myself.”

stevielegs


Wed Apr 27 2016 5:37 am EST

all aboard...the capt fugitive parmenter bus.... since way before the deadline i said fishboy can get a good return because he has a very trade-able contract if he agrees to a trade , and the nyr might have less injuries.....including his own.....let me try some wall logic, if sather never signed gomez, then he couldn't trade him to the habnots for a guy who insists the nyr can't win without him , and his coach agrees.....too bad talkerella blew his job here....and sather didn't hire Lindy ruff....but Mr indispensable was a #1 pick....sign yandle instead.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:36 pm EST

Good stuff. Some of the comments are also worth a read.... http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/new-york-rangers-should-trade-ryan-mcdonagh-for-taylor-hall-and-oilers-1st-overall-pick-says-ny-writer-huh?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:46 pm EST

In the past, NMC and NTC were automatically protected, but that has yet to be decided..... The framework of rules for a potential expansion draft was presented to the league's general managers during their recent meetings. If approved, new teams would be added for the 2017-18 season..... TSN's Frank Seravalli reported teams "under the current plan could protect seven forwards, three defenseman and a goaltender or eight skaters (of any position) and a goaltender." First- and second-year pros would be exempt, along with unsigned draft choices.... Seravalli also reported teams must expose "at least 25 per cent of the previous season's salary cap." Meanwhile, league deputy commissioner Bill Daly told Roarke the status of players carrying no-trade and no-movement clauses still had to be worked out with the NHLPA....

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:37 pm EST

two points of interest which caught my attention: This year’s first-rounder — which will be overall pick Nos. 1-5 as determined by this coming Saturday’s lottery drawing — .................... trade clauses kick in July 1

mf


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:16 pm EST

Gibbo the beat writers weren't too happy either ... F em all ... Larry keep lurking ... Speak your mind ... Sell papers ... But get veenyo ou da here ...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:06 pm EST

:->)

mf


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:05 pm EST

Fuck Dan Boyle in the ear! He can't talk to Larry Brooks, one of our regular Wallsters, like that! #WeTakeCareOfOurOwn

Gibbo


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:04 pm EST

http://data.newsday.com/long-island/pollGallery/rangers-2016-keep-em-dump-em/

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:43 pm EST

RF I think McDavid is going to be a beast and offensive beast, Matthews is just more complete and scores like a beast on top of that. Matthews reminds me of Forsberg in that he plays two way hockey but still scores at a sick tear as if he was just an offensive player, now mind you I'm not saying he's foppa who was a physical force in terms of hitting, but just the defensive awareness and the smarts on paying guys one on one defensively Matthews is better than the other two by far. Clark was just a beast and like I said not only all that but a leader as well the guy didn't take a shift off played two way hockey and was just as tough as they come and its funny because you never hear anyone say oh he reminds me of a young wendel clark because that guy was one of a kind.

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:41 pm EST

I find Brooks entertaining. He likes to stir the pot for sure. I have never seen Cyrgalis write anything offensive. IMO, Bpyle is a nancy boy that cannot handle the truth. And the truth is that if he was any good, the Rangers would not have had to trade for Yandle. the Rangers mistake was signing this decrepit decaying corpse on skates in the first place. Another Sather folly. This guy made $9 Million over 2 years and had all of us regretting the departure of Anton Stralman since. If Brooks or anyone else had called out something personal about him, I could see it. But he simply wrote what we all saw. Just because the other writers refused to do so is not an indictment of Brooks. Hardly anyone has called out Vigneault either, and that also is a problem. Where is the accountability? Good riddance to Dan Boyle. Go run to all the "other teams that are interested" in you. LOL!

Bob


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:10 pm EST

York: You're right about Wendell - a defense in junior. An interesting story you might find amusing. As you probably know he wasn't big but hit like a truck and that ended up catching up to him - significant back problems that ended up making him a shell of his former self. I recall a game where the Leafs were playing the Canucks and Clarke was back after another long stretch on the LTIR due to his back. Rich Sutter - that little punk of the punk twins, kept running at him. Time and time again. You could literally see the pain of the hits, when they connected, on Wendell's face. Finally, when Sutter came charging at him yet again, Clarke rammed the shaft of his stick rignt in Sutter's mouth, breaking a bunch of teeth in the process. Sutter didn't come near him again that game.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:05 pm EST

York: If anything he's being sold short because of both McDavid and Eichel. That said, he's the clear cut number 1 this year - the 2 Finns are way behind him in turns of favourites. It'll be interesting to watch all 3 develop. I do think you might be selling McDavid short. 48 points in 45 games on a team mired in controversy and with at least 10 of those games (after he missed 3 months) not in game shape. I've seen this kid a lot and I am convinced he is the real deal and barring injuries, will be in the top 10 next year and end up leading that pathetic franchise out of the old crony Oiler wilderness they've been in for so long. He seems like a genuinely nice kid, too - humble but articulate and not unable to speak to the press/camera. OMG, if he was a Ranger we'd all be going nuts with excitement (AV or not!!)....

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:56 pm EST

RF I remember that hit and I remember Clark going after him brilliant player and to think he was a defenseman in Jrs he didn't switch to forward till he was drafted by the leafs. Clark is the prototype hockey player IMO outside of a Gretzky you can't build a more perfect hockey player than Clark IMO. Gretzky is Gretzky but Clark was special and that's a guy I'd take on my team any day of the week. Killer, man that guy was just relentless, not big but he played big, and he played mean, that guy had heart for days. On Matthews funny he outscored Eichel by a large margin in the same develpment program,. The other thing I think that makes Matthews better is he's more complete, that guy is so smart without the puck, his back checking and stealing the puck is better than either Mcdavid or Eichel and IMO he's a more complete player now than either are. I think this kid is being sold short because he's not canadian JMO

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:55 pm EST

Count me in on the Big Mac "protest!" I may not watch a single game next season if they trade the kid; FU Veenyo!

pa.rangersfan


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:39 pm EST

Hospo: it's accumulative effect. Boyles dislike for Brooks goes back much further obviously. I mean I hate it when Cerny gets Carte Blanche to answer a million softball questions to steer the conversation but I bet Boyle has been ignoring him for a while. Not every member of the media gets to ask questions. They put their phone on record and get their bytes and go write their piece. Brooks has published lies, twists, and stuff worthy of National enquirer for years. Boyle just doesn't give a shit anymore. But in my world if a member of the media is drawing the ire of a player, security should step in immediately and walk them away. Boyle did point out that he still wanted to take questions, he just wanted Brooks gone. If Brooks was an average Carpinello who just writes pieces I'd think that Boyle was more out of line. but Brooks? I'd give that guy nothing. He's just gonna bury you anyway.

E


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:37 pm EST

Man, rewatched that video - that hit from McSorley was late and an elbow came up. Nasty. Gilmour stayed down for a while then finally got up and went to the LA bench yapping at them. That guy was like 160lbs soaking wet but the heart of a lion. He was a joy to watch - very skilled and ridiculously competitive.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:34 pm EST

Tdchi I think the nyr might have been behind the Big Mac is a bust for many reasons , and I don't think veenyo wants his type of d man ... But I doubt fishboy moves Big Mac . I hope veenyo says its him or me ....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:33 pm EST

York: Matthews is getting a ton of press up here, without a doubt. Scouting reports, however, Canadian or otherwise, put him a level below McDavid who's recognized by most as a generational player, ala Crosby. Matthews is apparently like Gropp - missed qualifying for the last year's draft by a day or so and all the experts say that if he was born 2 or 3 days earlier, he would have gone 3rd last year. In other words, he's considered a step behind Eichel, too.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:28 pm EST

Hospo: Oh yeah, if I'm Gorton and I'm quietly quarreling with the coach over a young player, no way with elimination looming am I gonna force my hand and make the coach dress a certain player. If that difference of opinion does exist, I suspect it's not an outright war; instead, it's more a case of stubbornness - coach won't play him unless he's got no choice and the GM won't give the coach unnecessary options (specifically trading McI who I don't for a second believe no teams have asked about him - suspect it's quite the opposite in fact).

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:25 pm EST

TD; AV didn't stay true to his MO when it came to Skeji

stepunmytoe


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:24 pm EST

RF4L - we';ll see about this Gorton-AV thing regarding players like Mcilrath..You could be right...Maybe AV wanted Diaz all year but Gprton wouldn't give him to him or lose mcilrath..Of course, Diaz's injuries helped....But once it hit the POs maybe he just gave in, knowing it would soon be over...Just creating some tabloid journalism..:)

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:23 pm EST

York: Ahh....Killer and Clark; the best times in the last 40+ years in LeafLand. That was the early 90s with Pat Burns behind the bench. Fabulous times. That team (because that's what Burns wanted) was all about team toughness and taking no crap from anyone. If you haven't seen this clip, it's worth watching, even if it's not the Rangers. It's the final four, Leafs against the Kings, and Marty McSorley nails Dougie Gilmour as he cruises over the LA blueline. Wendell's reaction is classic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8rCFe6VdPs This is what payback is all about...

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:20 pm EST

E - How was Brooks a clown or tabloid journalist in this case?...He called it like he saw it, that's it...And most people agreed...At least he had the balls to write ujnlike the reporters form the Daily News, Newday and the BR...who do nothing but put out fluff, Ranger PR and the company line...Theser are professional athletes, not college players or amateurs, nothing wrong with pointing out their bad play and providing alternatives....without going overboard...like Brooks did..

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:18 pm EST

Agreed LB is a tabloid journalist and as such, sometimes compromises his journalist integrity. I will say this, however: He appears to be the only NY media person with the gonads not to tow the line. The rest are, IMO, more embarrassing than LB as they extract their spines and stroke all things Dolans. They are shameful in fact.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:15 pm EST

TD: I take umbrage with your claim that 90% of the wall last year said McI was a bust. What I recollect is that just as this year, it's all about AV not liking this kid. I called it last year (with the well documented Kostagoal fiasco) and absolutely nothing AV did this year dispels that notion. In other words, most who speculated about McI's fate last year wasn't about McI being a bust - it was about the coach determining the kid's style doesn't fit into his philosophy, which now is in tatters and desperately needs altering. I hope my other gut feel on the McI situation is true: Gorton likes him and so far has refused to jettison him from the organization, despite his coach's stance on the matter.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:14 pm EST

That video shows me that the media can be a little hyperbolic. Honestly, I have no problem with the way Boyle handled Brooks. I wish more players were willing to break rank on clowns like Brooks. The guy is a tabloid journalist. And despite his occasional moment I find him the least credible of all the General NYR beat guys.

E


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:13 pm EST

To be honest, not much of a "tirade" from Boyle...He was pretty even keeled...Guess he just didn't like to be criticized for poor perfromance at the end of his career....Nobody does, but you sign up for that when you took your millions to play on NY....Brooks did nothing wrong other then not being a lemming or mouthpiece or homer-fan.like the rest of the beat writers...

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:12 pm EST

Question if Auston Matthews was Canadian would he be more touted than he currently is, he's not getting half the attention that McDavid got and I think he actually may be better than McDavid.

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:10 pm EST

Jeeze...what a difference a season makes...I'd say 90 percent of the Wall was of the opinion that McILRATH wouldn't make the team, with a sizeable percentage of those folks saying he was a bust...All that said, I don't think McI is going anywhere at the end of the day...and I think I'm definitely in the minority in the belief that AV has some sort of hatred for the guy...I have a feeling the plan all a long was to ease him into action as the BOYLE era phased out. Admittedly, I was a little perplexed that he didn't get more...or rather any...ice in the POs, when quite clearly he was better than two of three right handed defensemen...I just think AV's MO with young players is to usher them in slowly...and it was clear he wanted to keep giving Boyle a chance to redeem himself....but we shall see. Right-handed d-men aren't easy to find and their aren't really many of them on the UFA market...This year's crop includes Luke SCHENN, who I don't think anyone would want...Yannick WEBER, and Roman POLAK...so the options are deal for one...don't think they can sign anyone to an offer sheet because they have no second rounder next season...and internally, the only guy on the right who is anywhere near NHL-ready is Calle ANDERSSON, and I'd say he's still a good half-season away...were I to forecast what is going to happen on D, I'd say the guy who gets moved is Marc STAAL...and I doubt YANDLE gets resigned. That would open up spots for SKJEI and GRAVES...maybe even BODIE...GIRARDI, I suspect, will stay simply because I doubt they'll find any takers for him...but who knows? I can't get a read on anything this team will do. There's so many question marks.

tdchi


Tue Apr 26 2016 5:57 pm EST

I was just thinking about it if I were Gorton I would have Kreider and Miller sit down and watch Wendel Clark play get all the footage you can get and tell them this is how you should be playing every game. Those two guys could be killers if they played like Clark did.....................................Nash sounds like a guy who knows he hasn't lived up to his end of the deal.

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 5:54 pm EST

“It’s hard not to worry about it,” said Rick Nash, a prime candidate to go in an overhaul. “I love the city, I love the organization, but the realistic side to it is that you don’t know what’s going to happen over the summer.”..........http://nypost.com/2016/04/26/rangers-are-getting-a-shakeup-and-even-stars-are-worried/

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 5:46 pm EST

http://www.tsn.ca/video/must-see-dan-boyle-sounds-off-on-larry-brooks-in-profanity-laced-tirade~857183

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 5:46 pm EST

rf if the leafs get stamkos and mathews I could join you lol liked the leafs a lot in the old days with Killer and Wendel clark two of my all time favorite hockey players.

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 5:41 pm EST

If they trade McIlrath, and i continue to follow hockey,I'm switching to the Islanders... They're from LINY, no problem there.... Not my 1st choice of action, but an option

mf


Tue Apr 26 2016 5:40 pm EST

Gary I'll fix that ... Lol

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 5:04 pm EST

Saw this on New York Daily. They have a interactive link to allow you to vote on who should stay and who should be dumped. I was absolutely stunned to see that 54% want AV to stay. He is the absolute worst playoff coach in the league. Can't believe that many folks want him to stay. Here is the link. http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/04/rangers-keep-em-dump-em/

GaryRanger


Tue Apr 26 2016 5:00 pm EST

AV stays and McI goes, that'll be it for me. I'll follow the Leafs - they are finally doing the right thing there. I hope McI ends up in Toronto - that would be just fine with me.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:49 pm EST

Tdchi weknow claims Hayes is staying...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:47 pm EST

I could see only see pansy boy Stepan yelling at Brooks if there were 10 people between them..and pulling the old Jimmie Dynomite Walker "hold me back" routine.....Another guy I hope I never see skate for the Rangers again..

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:41 pm EST

what the hell did Brooks write so bad that caused these guys to blow up? Tell the truth about how bad they were? I could see if he leaked info about personal problems within the locker room but jeezuz, give me a break you bunch of losers...

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:40 pm EST

stevielegs - that's an interesting question. First response would be how much does Eric STAAL want? The guy has plenty left in the tank, but he ain't the player he once was. If he signs for less than what BRASSARD is making, I trade the latter and save the cap space. My distaste for Brass is slowly ebbing, but I still think the guy needs to be more consistent. Yet he has a NTC now, so he ain't moving...I like STEPAN and would never move him unless the return was one I couldn't refuse. And frankly, I'd have little problem moving MILLER back to the middle, ditching Brass and going with the two of them as our top two, and LINDBERG as our number three. I have a feeling Kevin HAYES has skated his last game as a Ranger...and if I were to call it, I'd say we keep both centerman, pass on Staaal, trade Hayes, Miiller stays on the wing and Lindberg starts the year as our third pivot.

tdchi


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:36 pm EST

Word is stepan also cursed out Brooks ... Think that's the 2 nd time this season for him ... Good ole Larry might want to check with his sources ....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:30 pm EST

As for BOYLE'S amateurish explosion on Brooks...and of all people, Brett Cyrgalis...seriously dude, you're a professional. Or at least you were. You'd think after two decades in the NHL, he'd have thicker skin. But sounds more like he has no idea how bad he's gotten since he came to NY. I mean, I'm not even talking about his defensive lapses. He couldn't even handle crisp passes at the blueline. And while I won't stick up for an assclown like Brooks...to stoop to his level in public after your team got UTTERLY TRASHED by a POS Pittsburgh team dressing a group of AHLers on its bottom two lines who BANGED YOU LIKE A GONG...guess what? You're a goddamn moron. Can't wait to get the stink of that guy out of the Garden. And hopefully now we won't have to sign any more of Tortorella's wet dreams from his Tampa days. So long Dan. Please let the door hit you on the ass unbelievably hard on the way out. Don't come back.

tdchi


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:25 pm EST

" They hit him with five shots and he's still alive! "

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:19 pm EST

E – re: BOYLE I can’t remember whether it was fans or the organization itself…most likely both…but there was a LOOOONG record of interest between the Rangers and Boyle. I remember the Rangers were rumored to be in on him several deadlines…most notably under Torts. I personally never liked the guy much…indifferent to him at best…and when he signed? Man, my jaw dropped. The theory, I suspect, was that he could be used in a limited capacity to bolster a PP that was just awful. And if you looked at his body of work BEFORE he laced up with the Rangers, I can understand how someone could see that. I still don’t agree, but whatever…Bottom line is that Boyle was an unmitigated NIGHTMARE on defense. Just absolutely awful. His +/- might not bear that out, but he also ate up a shit-ton of PP time...He and GIRARDI basically traded turns being a pylon…Teams routinely cut to the right side to exploit those two…and they did. Badly. Had Boyle JUST been a sixth defender on a team where Girardi was at the top of his game, he would have been fine. But the combo of the two was ridiculously bad. And to compound it, AV constantly paired him with the wandering Keith YANDLE…regarding STRALMAN and the demise of the PK…I kind of doubt it…But I think you’re correct if you’re saying Stral’s departure was the beginning of the end of the Rangers’ dominance on D. They did OK in 2014-2015 because Girardi was still playing well…pan to this year, the rangers had two borderline number six defenders. But Girardi was the true culprit for the PK demise.

tdchi


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:19 pm EST

DIAZ in the TOP Six next year...Mcilrath to EDMONTON or WIINIPEG....Book it..

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:17 pm EST

weknow throwing back end under the bus, looking for d men who can move the puck....veiled big mac under the bus ?.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 4:06 pm EST

What's the deal with buyouts in the NHL..Are they still allowed? If so, how does the Cap thing work?

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:54 pm EST

I'm so disgusted that he still is this teams coach, I don't know if I can even watch this team with that frog behind the bench. If Wrath gets moved and he stays I'm honestly done I'll watch shite I don't know who I'll watch,

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:53 pm EST

I'd like to see Yandle stay. This club can't afford a talent drain. It's a plumber's union already. About ten second-and-third liners up front, and a D-corps whose best days are receding pretty quickly. Also glad to see Hank still 'supports his teammates.' This guy continues to irk me on some level. Chiefly the no-Cup-in-10-years level. On Stralman: this place pissed all over the guy for three years and now he's the one that got away? Well, yeah, to a point. But come on.

Nick


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:45 pm EST

Oh crap?!?!?.....Since 2010-'11, the Lightning are 5-12-3 (W-L-T) against the Islanders, and their last win at the Islanders was in November 2010; they are 0-7-1 in their last eight trips to the Islanders.....I am obsessed until an elimination.

DREW


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:39 pm EST

if you have the stomach.....http://www.blueshirtsunited.com/video/vigneault-we-need-analyze-what-needs-be-done?cmpid=nyr-soc-tw

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:38 pm EST

http://www.blueshirtsunited.com/article/change-air-rangers?cmpid=nyr-soc-tw

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:31 pm EST

good news so far...."- When asked whether the Rangers expect Russian top prospect Pavel Buchnevich to be in the training camp mix, Vigneault deferred that question to GM Jeff Gorton, who did not address the media today.".....take your time fishboy, but make the right 1st move....get a whole new coaching staff.....decide in the next 10 days....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:27 pm EST

Leo/ Hospo et al say a prayer....I have and will continue until he's gone....keep hope alive, because with him there is little hope if any.....just making the playoffs is pure bs.....except for the other fans whose team didn't .....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:24 pm EST

STEVIE - I think he hs, but hope you are right..Would be so good and funny if he came out tomorrow said something along the lines of "whoa big fella, who says you're not going to be the big change?"

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:23 pm EST

Just because AV *thinks* he's staying, doesn't mean he actually is.

LeoS


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:21 pm EST

Hospo I don't think Gorton has made a decision yet...at least I hope not....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:07 pm EST

I am literally sick to my stomach reading AV's commentary about next year and how the team has to make changes when he was the worst and most guilty Ranger of all...Probably laughing his ass off behind closed doors knowing he keeps a job after a perforamnce like that while he throws everybody else outhere to hang in the wind...God, I hate him....And if we have a GM that lets him get away with it..There is no hope....HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIEND, I'VE COME TO STAY WITH YOU AGAIN...

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:03 pm EST

"And, to nobody’s surprise, coach Alain Vigneault confirmed that management will look to alter the team’s core for next season. “I think we’re at the stage now where we need to look at some changes,” Vigneault said. “For any NHL team that status quo is not possible and not what’s needed. We want to bring in different players to add to the dynamic. The core guys have been together for a while. Certainly it’s time now to look at what we can do to improve and that’s what we’re going to do moving forward. “I think we look at everything,” Vigneault added. “There’s no denying inconsistency this year was a big part of our season, especially from our back end this year. The puck moving ability we’ve shown in the past, for whatever reason, was not as good. It affected a lot of our games.” Vigneault said management and the coaching staff has agreed to step back for about seven to 10 days before beginning the re-evaluation process. “We need some time here to make sure we don’t do anything drastic,” Vigneault said. “We need to calm down.” Vigneault would not specifically answer questions about individual players and how they fit into the Rangers’ future. He also added that, at this time, he could not guarantee his coaching staff would come back intact.".......wtfu fishboy....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 3:00 pm EST

STEVIE - STAAL is not even a consideration to me..can't take the risk that he's done.....I go with BRASS..At least he comically tried to fight the guy that layed out Glass one night..

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:55 pm EST

so putting $ aside, who would you rather have e staal, stepan or brassard...pick one of the 3 or 2 of the 3.....i'll leave hayes, cheesy, moore et al out of this...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:53 pm EST

or fishboy grew a pair of gills and told him who he wants gone, if he wants to be the coach next year....lots of possibilities in his bs lines....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:52 pm EST

YORK - Oh, I think he wanted Staal....He just ahd no clue how to use him except hoping Quickie and his 0 gaols in 20 games would get him going..He's just being his old douche bag self in making sure everything sits on the players rather then sticking where it belongs--on his incompetent ass....He had the Worst year of any Ranger, without a doubt..

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:49 pm EST

York maybe guys want to run away from veenyo...?.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:48 pm EST

Hospo I hope Gorton fishboy didn't decide yet on weknow.....playing hurt players is his forte.....what a honest captain ....someday he'll look in the mirror and use the word I.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:48 pm EST

AV is obviously staying if he's talking about maybe letting go of someone from his staff, isn't he a real class act someone else will take the blame for this Ahole. I love the way he's almost blaming Staal for what happened, its obvious he never wanted him here from the start.

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:46 pm EST

what a great captain......Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 5m5 minutes ago Ryan McDonagh: "Other years you might say you deserve better. But this year it’s tough to think like that."

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:45 pm EST

STEVIE - Talk about bad news -news...The bad news is of course that AV is staying and will be making th decision about coaching staffs.......The good news is that ARNEIL and his PK/PP incompetence is probably gones....and one less scapegoat for AV and the upcoming disasterous year..

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:43 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2015/12/19/vigneault-must-bring-hammer-down-on-rangers-and-kevin-hayes/

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:42 pm EST

E - Thornton is an extreme outlier and aberration who has the experience and unselfish attitude to play that way and the smarts to play that was but adjust it to his wings.....HAYES has none of that.....And there aren't any others that really play that way either.....

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:40 pm EST

Stranger....I think I read in the Post today that they'll finalize on the Expansion Team in June. Sounded like a done deal.

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:39 pm EST

Rangers Report ‏@rangersreport 2h2 hours ago Vigneault said it's not a sure thing his entire staff comes back, but won't make any decisions for a week to 10 days.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:39 pm EST

As far as "every Ranger is avaialble"..Damn straight....I wish the majority of the current Rangers would take a long walk off a short pier...The ONLY players I want to see back are- KREIDER, MILLER, STALBERG, LINDBERG, McIlRATH SKEJI and KLEIN..I know I will get stuck with many others, but one can hope!..Believe it or not, I would honestly want FAST back (as a 4th liner) if AV wasn't the coach!

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:38 pm EST

Stranger....Stralman was going to Tampa....he had just gotten married and his wife is from Tampa. So Girardi fesses up....the cracked knee cap bothered him for 4.5 months and he suffered a concussion in Game 1. AV is really starting to piss me off. If I'm McIlrath's agent I'm looking for a way out of here.

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:22 pm EST

With 32 teams this will really be the N/AHL!

NYStranger


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:21 pm EST

What expansion draft? Are they really adding more teams? When? I thought is was still just talk? I know who I would not protect.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:20 pm EST

What's done is done... Where does the team go from here? ....... On a side note, there's no reason to give AV an inkling about whether he is in the NYR's plans for next season.... Mum's the word! .... jmon

mf


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:19 pm EST

Got to consider moving just about anyone on the roster if the return is good. Next year may just be a transition year that sets up the following season. Who knows, but if it is a transition year it probably doesn't matter who coaches. I still want to see VeenYoYo gone ASAP. No need to further damage the development of the remaining group. Seems like tensions are still high in the lockerroom, eh? Does AV have any clue? Wonder what the players say in their exit interviews? Just saying ahain that it will be hard for me to have real interest in the team at the start of next season if AV is still here and significant moves are not made.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:11 pm EST

Dan Boyle: what an @sshole! He wanted to be a Ranger...careful what you wish for. Can't take the heat, don't play in NY jerk. I will forever remember him always shaking his head in disbelief after botching another play. Always looked like he was looking for the hole in his stick blade. Good riddance, terrible signing. Stralman maybe overpaid in Tampa but it is still a better deal than any of the Girardi, Staal, Boyle contracts.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:10 pm EST

Who do we lose in the expansion draft? Girardi? or can guys with NM or NTC not be jettisoned via expansion? LikeLB's thinking on moving McD......

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:07 pm EST

HOSPO: it has a place. Thornton gains the zone routinely and turns the ice into slow motion mode while he waits for the play to develop. Hayes although he fancies himself with the same style is about 100x less the player but he hasn't gotten the memo yet. It's good to have a pivot who can hold the puck and let the play mature but how many times does he extend the play and see nothing before he turns over the puck? He has to learn to throw the puck in if it isn't working. It's gonna help help his game. Enough with the dipsy doodle crap and play some hockey. Then I'll appreciate the skillset. Until that time I'm not gonna have any use for the guy. We'll see. Sophomore blues are gone now. It's put up or be gone mode.

E


Tue Apr 26 2016 1:58 pm EST

BOYLE with the attitude? get the hell out old man and don't let the door hit your worthless ass on the way out..Eric Stall was not not great for the Rangers but he was screwed by AV from the start with AV's cockamayme line saddling him with HAYES for foar too lontg..and with the offensive blackhole that is FAST.....And then to force him to play LW on a new team..Utter stupidity by AV...But he was a grade A arrogant ignoramous all year....Every jmove he made turned to shit..............I don't ecpect the Rangers to get rid of AV but if the smug bozo doesn't make a 180 in rerard to EVERYTHING, next season is lost already............As for HAYES, his CURRENT stylre and attitude deosn't fit anywhere in the NHL right now....Him and dangling and circling and apathetic attitude should be in the KHL............And if AV stays, you at least have to bring n an assitant coach with some fire and energy that this team desperately needs.....Saying foodbye to the self-serving and incompetent ARNIEL should be a no-brainer...

Hospo


Tue Apr 26 2016 1:57 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-aQhmMHg0M

mf


Tue Apr 26 2016 1:53 pm EST

Just took the tarp off the "traderator" or is it the ""trade-away-tor?"" ha ha ha ha ............. Girardi / M.Staal / Nash to Edmonton for RNH (who I believe they are more willing to cut bait on than any othere of their youth) Nail Yakupov, Mark Ference ( salary dump for them) and their 1st round pick........ Tweak it to get it done........... Next: Kevin Hayes & whatever for STL Blues Shattenkirk................. Resign YANKLE (McDonagh/Yankle/Skjei --- Klein/Shattenkirk/ Mcilrath....... & sign an UFA or two..... goodbye Glass, Moore, Hayes, M.Staal, Girardi, Nash....... We can have a 1A Line, and a 1B line, followed by a 3A Line & a 3B Line....... Don't mess with the idiot savant GM who commandeered the clueless jackasses of "The Steal Your Faceoffs" to 1st place! (still waiting for a couple of acknowledgements from some of the other GM's!) :-)

mf


Tue Apr 26 2016 1:26 pm EST

"Looking back, I would probably take more time to rest it (knee)", listening to G's interview now. Sigh.

LeoS


Tue Apr 26 2016 1:19 pm EST

Well if this AV quote on ESTaal is accurate, "For whatever reason, it didn’t work out for him and us. We brought him in to win and we got bumped in the first round.” (from Ranger Rants) then it's clear he won't be returning, if AV remains. Reminds me of a job interview I once had which concluded with a handshake and "Good luck, wherever you end up."

LeoS


Tue Apr 26 2016 12:28 pm EST

What I could never figure out about the Boyle signing was how SJ basically drove an aging franchise player out. For all intensive purposes this was the equivalent of Brian Leetch coming up on free agency and the NYR saying, "we don't want you anymore. So go sign somewhere else and bye..." They did that because his greatest skill - offense was no more. They decided that replacing a puck carrying defenseman with no one was a better move then keeping him. And Sather was at the front door with bags of Benjamin's in both fists. I don't blame players for taking money. I blame GM's for giving money. I am no hockey genius and would never purport that I was as some would but I do know this: the production was in rapid decline. Then there is the eye test. Boyle to his credit when he realized that he couldn't score any longer focused on his defensive game which showed itself to be very competent. And all of this at a time when one of the best developed NYR defenseman in a while was shown the door in Stralman who has emerged as one of the quietest and best defenseman in the NHL. I don't know what the NYR thought they were getting but clearly it was someone that no one else saw. And so it is, another chapter in the story of Sather. The great evaluator of talent. A man by which advanced stats are just funny math that he doesn't understand. Because, to him it's about the eyes and the instincts. Nothing more/less. Now, I've also defended Boyle because some have tattooed him as one of the worst defenseman on the NYR when the opposite is actually true. Outside of Yandle and McD and a sku'd sample on Mcilrath the reality is this: the NYR had the puck. Stats aren't be all/ end all but the reality is this: when you control the puck, the other team doesn't. Why did the NYR lose to PIT? They spent huge swaths of time just trying to defend against a team that was strafing them with possession, but recovery after the shot. Girardi is terrible because his entire game is predicated on using his body and his balls to stop shots. Seems admirable enough. But when you stop shots with your body and do nothing to regain possession what's the point. You don't win hockey games without possession. Which is one of the pushbacks I have on Boyle when he was on the ice. He simply controlled the play and his offensive production +-for was higher then most of the defense. What we can deduce is, he wasn't as much a liability is some tried to make him out to be. That's just reality. And if anyone wants to know the real beginning of the unwinding of the defense they can look no further then when Stralman left.

E


Tue Apr 26 2016 12:08 pm EST

And you have to add in to the equation the tax structure of the City and State where players can go. For example, there is no state income tax in Texas. There are real estate taxes but he can control what he spends in that respect by where he chooses to live. So YANDLE could go to Dallas for the same amount of money the Rangers would offer him and make a heck of lot more money. And if I had to guess where YANDLE will end up I would say that Dallas is high on the list.

Vic


Tue Apr 26 2016 12:02 pm EST

E. STAAL isn't a top line player anymore. I don't really even like him in the top 6. Meaning that if the Rangers are considering upgrading at the Center position then 1 of BRASSARD or STEPAN has to be moved in a package for a legit #1 Center. That leaves the other to play the #2 spot and I'd rather have either of those two playing the #2 spot then STAAL. I don't see how STAAL fits on this team moving forward in any way. He will want way more money then he is worth and way more then the Rangers can afford. They need to be pushing older players out the door not welcoming them in and giving them bigger roles.

Vic


Tue Apr 26 2016 12:00 pm EST

Fully concur that Yandle's gonna chase the big payday. It's his right of course and that idiot Sather should have recognized that when he went shopping for him.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:59 am EST

Good riddance Boyle - can't take the criticism, give back a bunch of your $4.500,000 and go home. Another panicky stupid move by Sather in his last grasp at trying to rectify what is a pathetic 27 straight years of no cup.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:57 am EST

As for YANDLE, he will go where he gets the most money. That was obvious from the start of this year when he refused to renegotiate with the Rangers. Him talking about how much he likes it in NY has no bearing on him coming back. Who knows if he really likes it in NY or not. He is doing the correct "marketing", that is all. He is putting it out there that he wants to stay so that it pressures the Rangers to resign him. But more importantly he is putting that out there to say to other teams that I really like it in NY and maybe would consider taking less to stay here so you better blow NY out of the water with your offer. It is a negotiating tactic and nothing more. And BTW I don't blame him one bit for going to where he gets the most money. That is what he should do. He has to look out for himself and his family. He has to earn as much as he can while he can.

Vic


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:56 am EST

rangerlou...........I,m cheering for the Blues........technically, the only team from the first expansion in '67 that has not won a Cup. I'm from that time and space !

Newfie_Ranger


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:53 am EST

So what is it that I most likely didn't state now?

E


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:52 am EST

Last year's playoff against the Caps..Boyle gets hit, looking for the penalty and Ward scored.

DOUBLEN


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:50 am EST

WIOSA: I thought there was very little time during BOYLE's tenure here when he wasn't awful. And I thought he was REALLY BAD through most of the playoffs last year. He will be addition by subtraction even if DIAZ takes his place. BOYLE was a great player when he was young but the guy the Rangers signed was done before he got here. And it showed almost every shift of every game.

Vic


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:25 am EST

Raanta wants to come back maybe he takes less? E Staal wants a bigger role, no shit he was so misused under AV it was ridiculous. I said it from week one when you saw who he was saddled with no way does he come back to NY and who could blame him.........G had knee problems all year, I wonder why? Oh yeah he was rushed back by AV after being injured and then rushed back from a concussion you cant make this shite up, if this doesn't get AV fired nothing will players slowly throwing AV under the bus, first Hank, then Brass, now E staal, and Girardi....................LOVE the quote by Brett Cyrgalis LMAO...................Gee what a shock had trouble passing and stick handling and it showed but good thing AV got him in the lineup too....................Very telling that Hank backed his team, but not his coach.......................WIOSA NO you and E and that's about it...................YANDLE translation I love playing here pay me and I'll stay if not Im just as excited to be a UFA. Which means cya

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:19 am EST

Keith Yandle: "The organization here is amazing. I could definitely see myself here." ....Per Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord .... Keith Yandle says he hasn’t given much thought to being an UFA. Loves being a Ranger. But also excited to see what market might bring.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:17 am EST

Yandle repeatedly said NYR is an "amazing" org. Would love to be back. Doesn't know how it will go..........Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 1m1 minute ago Keith Yandle says he hasn’t given much thought to being an UFA. Loves being a Ranger. But also excited to see what market might bring.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:14 am EST

RHET let's not forget Staal was saddled with Hayes who barely skates back if at all which left that line hamstrung by that fool making turnovers and then standing there wondering what happened. That kid was a turnover machine in the neutral zone against pitt

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:13 am EST

WIOSA... I thought he was very good for us in last years playoffs... Hindsight being 20/20 of course, we should have kept Stralman. Live and learn.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:13 am EST

New York Rangers ‏@NYRangers 1m1 minute ago "The organization here is amazing...it's a pleasure to come to the rink."#NYR Keith Yandle

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:09 am EST

Am I the only one who saw Boyle as a pretty solid dman up to this season?

WIOSA


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:08 am EST

Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN 6m6 minutes ago Henrik Lundqvist says he wants the Cup as much as he did when he first came in league, maybe even more; important #NYR don't "overreact"

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:06 am EST

Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN 1h1 hour ago Eric Staal took accountability for not being good enough, but he has a point about his role. Waved a no-move to join #NYR 14 retweets 18 likes Reply Retweet 14 Like 18 More Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN 1h1 hour ago Eric Staal says he's "not making any excuses" but says he needs to be a guy who's counted on, clearly didn't end up in role he envisioned

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:05 am EST

how about the coach hank ?.....ndrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 3m3 minutes ago Henrik Lundqvist also cautions against “overreaction” when analyzing this team. Strongly believes in teammates.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 11:04 am EST

I don't agree Hank.... Per Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord .... "Henrik Lundqvist also cautions against “overreaction” when analyzing this team. Strongly believes in teammates."

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:57 am EST

talk about pointing fingers....Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 11m11 minutes ago McDonagh says he was dealing with a break in his right pointer finger. Felt it most stickhandling a passing.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:56 am EST

Jim Cerny ‏@JimCerny 14m14 minutes ago Ryan McDonagh will not require surgery on hand, but admits it was frustrating physically not being at his best during playoffs....thanks capt fugitive and coach weknow.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:55 am EST

Per Yahoo Sports...... Before speaking to the media scrum, Boyle said he wanted Brooks to leave the interview area, offering a personal criticism of his work as well. “I don’t want him here,” said Boyle. “What?” Brooks said. “You know, the feeling’s mutual, man.” “Nobody likes you. Nobody respects you. Just so you know,” said Boyle. “OK,” said Brooks. “At least I’m leaving here with the respect of my teammates,” said Boyle. There was some cross talk, before Boyle said, “I have no respect for you. I want you to get the [expletive] out.” “I don’t care what you think,” said Brooks. “I can tell you to get the [expletive] out if I want to!” said Boyle, his voice now raised. “You can, but I don’t have to listen to you,” said Brooks. “Yeah, ya do!” said Boyle. “I want him out. And that other [expletive] clown, Brett, or whatever the [expletive] his name is. Everyone else is fine. I want him out. It’s my right.” And after a few more words were exchanged, Rangers staff stepped in to calm the scene down and Boyle began his interview with what we assume was his selected audience. Boyle was a frequent target for Brooks during his time with the Rangers. The Post reporter wrote at the start of the season that “allowing Anton Stralman to escape as a free agent in order to sign Dan Boyle on July 1, 2014, stands as Glen Sather’s most regrettable decision of the final 10 years of the Rangers president’s tenure as general manager."

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:53 am EST

Jim Cerny ‏@JimCerny 16m16 minutes ago Viktor Stalberg says Kris Letang apologized to him in handshake line for knocking out 3 of his teeth with high stick earlier in series................., and brassard gave him a hug on the line....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:49 am EST

Per Brett Cyrgalis ‏@BrettCyrgalis .... "Response to Dan Boyle? I did my job. Not sure he ever did his."

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:40 am EST

FishLegs: """And if fishboy decides he needs a new coach, then the roster has to fit the new coach.""" (me thinks the coach needs to play the best possible hand with what he has been dealt)

mf


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:39 am EST

Dan Boyle asks Larry Brooks to leave the room. "I have no respect for you. Zero. I want you to go out. "

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:35 am EST

rangerlou - me too my friend. Oddly enough, my contacts that are friends of the ISISlanders, were big Tampa Bay fans last year in May????

DREW


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:34 am EST

Everyone hates Brooksie..... Per Sean Hartnett ‏@HartnettHockey.... Tense moment. Dan Boyle asks Brett Cyrgalis and Larry Brooks to leave the scrum..... Says the rest of the press can stay.Boyle singled out the New York Post’s Larry Brooks and Brett Cyrgalis. Brooks was present, while Cyrgalis was not. Boyle is heard on audio saying he had no problem with the rest of the reporters in the locker room, but would not begin discussing the disappointing end to the Rangers’ season unless Brooks left the vicinity. According to WFAN.com’s Sean Hartnett, Brooks eventually obliged. While it’s unknown what caused Boyle, who has generally been very good with the press, to lash out, tensions around the Rangers are still high following their five-game loss to the Pittsburgh Penguins in the first round of the playoffs.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:33 am EST

Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay 1h1 hour ago Dan Girardi had right knee problems all year, concussion near end.....................good reason not to play BIG MAC, and fire weknow.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:29 am EST

So let me get this straight... Girardi dealing with concussion issues and AV throws him out on the ice in a must win situation when you have Mcilraith sitting on the bench? He should be fired for this alone!!!

Tucc


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:28 am EST

TD: Ooops....missed a digit. I watched most of Team Canada's WJC games and the team overall was terrible - poor coaching that led to undisciplined play that got progressively worse as the tourney went on. Barzal looked quite good in the beginning but the succumbed (I think) to the general malaise of the team, but unlike some of his mates, didn't do so by taking stupid penalties. Instead, he hung on to the puck too long too often, frequently turning what looked like the start of something good into nothing. He's fast with excellent puck handling skills - I imagine he's a very good set-up man. If both he and Gropp go back to Seattle next year, they will likely play together and Gropp could net 50+ goals.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:24 am EST

Dan Boyle told off Larry Brooks. I like him even more now.

Higgy21


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:18 am EST

Looking Foward to see the ICEHOLES get FU@KING wasted by Tampa.

rangerlou


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:16 am EST

Rhet0ric - In Eric STAAL'S very limited defense, the guy was pretty badly miscast. He should have been playing top-six from the get-go, not third line wing. I actually didn't have as much a problem with his play as I did others. Seemed engaged, but got very little support...I wouldn't be surprised at all if he wheels back down to NC. And that'll hurt too, since SAARELA is a genuinely good prospect. Gonna be an NHLer sooner than later. Maybe even within a year.

tdchi


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:15 am EST

Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 13m13 minutes ago Eric Staal believes he can be a productive player for a number of years. Doesn’t have to be The Guy for a team but looking for larger role.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:14 am EST

Viktor Stalberg: "I liked it here...It's a great place to play. It's a great organization." .....BTW. Stamkos is on the ice for Tampa practice in a Red Jersey.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:06 am EST

RF4L - One quick correction: BARZAL was drafted 16th. Good pivot who did play for Team Canada, but wouldn't say he's world class. We'll see. I don't put much stock in anything out of the WHL. Guys rip up that league and then come to the AHL and get humbled...The only guy we've gotten out of there recently that I like is TAMBELLINI...and that's only because of his release...but what I've read on GROPP is all good. He took a nice statistical jump last season too...I'll wait to see what he does in Hartford...OAN from the WHL, haven't heard anything about the Rangers signing Keegan IVERSON, who would have to play as an overager next year and had a very underwhelming season. Kid fell off a cliff...went from third round pick invited to Team USA try-outs to looking like he ain't going to be signed.

tdchi


Tue Apr 26 2016 10:01 am EST

Raanta said he loves it here, would love to re-sign. Said he hopes playing with Lundqvist helps him find another level.... Telling stats on the brothers: Eric Staal was on the ice for 0 team goals & 10 goals against in 1st round vs. Pittsburgh. Marc Staal was on for 3 goals & 11 allowed... Let Eric sign elsewhere and then offer to trade Marc to join him:)

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:58 am EST

The media should curse out Boyle for his horrid play since Sather signed him.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:53 am EST

Dan Bpyle wants too go into retirement by cursing out several reporters? Real professional there... you stay classy Dan Boyle! Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:50 am EST

York the coach probably gave his problems to Fishboy, now he has to decide if the coach is a part of his problems. His success lies with what his coach does with his roster......failure has to be addressed usually, but at MSG it's very debatable....if fisboy wants to save his own face, and ass, though probably not on the line yet, he needs a scapegoat. the coach likes to blame the players, the gm has to figure out if the coach needs to be blamed.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:48 am EST

Wiosa i agree!!!!!!!!!! Caps or St Louis for me

rangerlou


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:41 am EST

WIOSA no AV chooses the pairings and who plays on what side, ulf deploys.

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:41 am EST

G with a concussion I guess the concussion started game one of the season which would explain his horrid play. The thing is once again AV screwing things up playing guys with concussions, broken hands, ankles etc. This is a huge problem with this guy he was outed for claiming a Nuck player wasn't hurt and expected him to play and he had a serious back injury and refused to play and went into AVs dog house. This guy is a real POS who won't get fired but should.

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:41 am EST

Yorkie...Ulf didnt choose the pairings? Curious.

WIOSA


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:38 am EST

STEVIE I don't think he gets fired today if at all. I have this terrible feeling unless the team completely turns on him in closing interviews he will be back because Gorton is too afraid to change things as obvious by what he has done.....................Boyle feels he can still play? Great, just do it somewhere else.

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:38 am EST

Rangerlou...The Caps...Ive always liked Ovi. Sorry Haggy, but I truly dislike Crosby

WIOSA


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:36 am EST

WIOSA You can't blame ULF for bone headed plays by guys who just weren't cutting it all year. The system was flawed, leadership was missing, and the D just couldn't get in sync no matter what was done because the back checking was weak, the pairings weren't working either.

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:35 am EST

Girardi said he was dealing with a concussion at the end of the season. Symptoms resurfaced during Game 1...........Dan Boyle says he believes he can still play but leaning toward retirement for family reasons.......‎@AGrossRecord Also, Dan Boyle ends tenure with Rangers cursing out selected reporters in public setting, trying to dictate who could be in on interview..........Derick Brassard leaving Friday for Russia. Will play for Canada in World Championships.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:32 am EST

Congratulations to Brady Skjei on his good play in the playoffs and on his addition to the USA roster for the Worlds. I just wish Dylan had been given the 'vote of confidence' Brady has been shown. I honestly dont know if this is just circumstances playing out naturally, or a display by Coach of his displeasure..but there is a noticeable difference in the way these two players were introduced to their NHL careers. As always JMHO

WIOSA


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:25 am EST

So WALLBANGERS who is everyone cheering for..... To win the CUP!!!

rangerlou


Tue Apr 26 2016 9:14 am EST

rf4l if fishboy thinks veenyo can change to what lb thinks he needs to be, he will be wrong. and if they think no cup, who needs him? On top of that, he had this team to the finals , the semi finals, and 1 and done, he's heading in the wrong direction, and won't own up to his shortcomings. He just likes to blame the players. To keep him will be a bad decision and only delaying it to next season , during or after.....if fishboy really wants to improve this team , he has to start by getting a new coach...the results in the post seasons prove that.....this is not personal, it's business.....keep your fingers crossed.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 8:55 am EST

stevie: Re AV in/out decision first, then roster moves. Agreed. And I sure hope he's canned.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 8:46 am EST

NHL tonight had Scott Stevens ( a guy I hated when he was a Devil, but admittedly an excellent Dman) break down Pittsburgh goals against the Rangers game 5 . According to him, all but one goal, and one he accidentally deflected in, had a breakdown of coverage by the Rangers so bad, NO goalie could have stopped those goals. Makes me feel a tad better for Hank..but wondering about ULF.

WIOSA


Tue Apr 26 2016 8:31 am EST

TD: I hope you're right. The reports on Gropp are all encouraging - I just find his stats a tad underwhelming for 1) a guy with his experience 2) a guy who's on a competitive team 3) a guy playing with a top end center (Barzal), drafted by the Islanders 6th overall last year.

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 8:30 am EST

lb I disagree and hope you are wrong. this coach doesn't like dealing with younger players and their mistakes... vets get special dispensation...and undeserved ice-time...and if they don't expect to win the cup , then why keep this coach ?....who believes weknow can change ? ...spots on a leopard...if he's kept, he needs to change his staff...which he probably won't...pp, pk, d system, offense all underachieved...goalie rotation...lineup.... ..."All coaches are stubborn. They have to be themselves, as Sinatra kind of warbled. But we’d suggest Vigneault — who sure does deserve to be back — needs to be more malleable, more hands-on, more responsible for helping motivate a 2016-17 Rangers team that should be considerably younger and carry far less weighty expectations than this group.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:59 am EST

tdchi/rf4l et al I would have preferred to keep hagelin and talbot , and roll the dice on resigning or losing them . how those trades turn out is tbd.....but the nyr definitely missed hagelin. Uncle Raanta did a good enough job. Hagelin and Hayes worked pretty well together, and e staal probably wouldn't have been traded for. Too late now.....And if fishboy decides he needs a new coach, then the roster has to fit the new coach. If he keeps veenyo ( God forbid) , he has to lay the law down on the roster and what he expects veenyo to do with the players he gives him. It's more than likely veenyo lobbied for the E Staal deal and wanted to keep Yandle. ... fishboy made and didn't make the moves, now the ball is in his court. The results weren't good enough......and king Sather has to decide on fishboy and veenyo. I hope Hank wants veenyo gone because more than likely king sather will ask king hank. I think the biggest decision today is whether they keep veenyo or not. ...that determines the direction for fishboy ....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:44 am EST

LB musing about the possibility of trading McD - that man reads this wall for sure. We started floating the idea last fall on here when the rumours were rampant that Johansen was available...

RF4L


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:21 am EST

http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/26/gorton-needs-to-perform-some-magic-to-fix-what-ails-rangers/#sthash.2xn9D4Xu.dpbs

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:19 am EST

http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/25/rangers-gm-gorton-better-be-right-about-vigneault-one-way-or-another/#sthash.dtjXI0LW.dpbs

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:14 am EST

RF4L - I think that draft got too rich for the Rangers. Look at what happened to Boston. They really wanted to grab HANIFAN and were amassing first rounders in a futile hope to move up. They had to trade LUCIC and HAMILTON just to get mid-first round picks...The Isles needed to trade the fourth overall from 2012 to get on the board at 16....the only pick I think the Rangers could have gotten moving the players/picks they did was late first round...Anything above 25...you look at the deals that were made and the market price was just ridiculously high...especially for that draft, where the talent level dropped off pretty steep after the first 12 or 13 picks...I know the guys the Bruins got with their three aren't exactly sure thing NHLers...and when I look at the guys who went 20 through the GROPP pick, there are really only a few I like...BOESER that the Canucks got is one hell of a player...Sebastion AHO with the Canes...Kyle CONNOR on the Jets. to name a few. We'll see in six short months whether Gropp was worth what the Rangers paid.

tdchi


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:14 am EST

is today veenyo's last day ?......"The Rangers gather today at the Madison Square Garden Training Center in Greenburgh, N.Y. for breakup day before heading into an offseason that promises to see general manager Jeff Gorton make significant roster changes."....I sure hope so.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 7:06 am EST

The three winningest teams of the last five years all out in round one coincidence or cumulituve fatigue? I have no idea but I'm wondering if everyone hit the wall. Making the playoffs is nice but I don't want to be a det where you make it a bunch of years only to be out in round one now granted with no first round picks it really doesn't matter but when they do have picks which is when exacrly? It will be nice to get a decent pick position. Also I'd like to note how people are quick to blame sather but I have been saying for three years now gorton has been running the show more than sather and notice in the stasl deal more picks and a prospect went firsts for msl firsts and prospect for yandle now seconds because they had no firsts and a prospects to rent staal. I said from day one bad deal what did staal bring in these playoffs that Lindberg couldn't? Nothing they lose more assets for what will amount to nothing. Gorton needs to find religeon quick or HD will sink this franchise fast.

York18


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:49 am EST

WIOSA - What I said was that the Rangers COULD have resigned HAGELIN. Talk from his camp was that would have taken a qualifying offer and a bridge deal to fit under the cap...but it was a pay-me-now-or-pay-me-later situation. Hags, one way or another, was going to be making $4 million plus. If they short changed him this year, they would have needed to pay even more come this off-season. Rangers saw an area where they could 1. Get younger; 2. Give themselves more cap space; and 3. Fill an organizational need. They pulled the trigger, simple as that. What I've always disputed with very good reason was this silly notion that the Rangers had their back up against the wall and needed to deal Hags from a position of weakness...and that Sather, as York put it, was crying a 'woe is me' song on the draft floor when Murray whisked in and grabbed Hagelin. That's a convenient narrative for people who want to carp about the Rangers, but it's not one rooted in reality...Look, Hagelin is a good support player. There isn't a team in the NHL that wouldn't like his speed. But that said, he's a one-trick pony with hands of stone. He doesn't have size and plays a rough game for his frame. He's a support player who has a ceiling of a third liner that can fill in for stretches on second line... He's not the type of guy you bring onto your roster to serve top-6 function on a permanent basis as the Ducks found out very quickly. He just happened to click in Pittsburgh, which is great for them, but doesn't change the fact that he's simply not worth the contract he got...Say what you will about what the Rangers got back for him, but the truth is they got exactly what they wanted...ETEM didn't pan out, so they kicked the can on him and got an even younger player they could mold in Hartford...so Cap dump? Nope. Not a chance. You see some of the moves the Hawks made after they won their first cup? Trading BYFUGLIEN, LADD and two roster players for a bunch of scrubs and a couple picks? That's a cap dump...what the Rangers did was cap management. The only question now is how well did they manage it.

tdchi


Tue Apr 26 2016 6:30 am EST

Nyr in the misery loves company group with lalaland and shitcago.... And the other losers...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 26 2016 2:00 am EST

Hospo- I've seen a lot of Radulov and he has done a bit of a "legendary" job in the KHL. For a while there he was also a great player no ifs or buts. "But" over the years and with age he has been a player with a lot more bad habits the last years. It's like, one reason the best at a level are the best is because they know how they can cheat. If a player like that moves to the next level, those habits can get exposed. To put it mildly, you don't make instruction videos of how to play by taking footage of Radulovs play the last years in the KHL. With that said, he could still be valuable in a scoring role and on a PP in the NHL. But if he 5 years ago maybe could have turned into a top 15-20 scorer, I think he now more like should be expected to perform in a secondary role. If we are trading Nash for a repair action on the fly, I would definitely not mind signing Radulov if we had the space to a one year deal. If nothing else we could trade him at the deadline.

Ola


Mon Apr 25 2016 10:18 pm EST

Way to go Blues......my pick for the CUP this year

MelvilleFred


Mon Apr 25 2016 10:17 pm EST

Shitcago eliminated

stevielegs


Mon Apr 25 2016 10:15 pm EST

I miss Anisimov......

MelvilleFred


Mon Apr 25 2016 9:38 pm EST

Chitown/St.Louis is an exciting game..... Watching RHS Dmen Pietrangello & Shattenkirk because there's stories the latter may be available in trade after this season.... "mf's" interested.... BACKES hits like linebacker, still has plenty of fight in him.....

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 9:27 pm EST

TD: Re Gropp...IMO, if he's THAT good he wouldn't have dropped to the 2nd round. But yeah, I get wanting a player and paying for the right to pick him. But, geesh you're putting lots on the table - keep the 2 picks, leave EE where he belongs (not on the Rangers) and swap Hags for a first low - draft Gropp then if he's that good. That way you still have a 2nd rounder (and a 6th). Sorry, but you won't convince me - it was a dumb trade.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 9:13 pm EST

Cory Crawford. That's a playoff goalie. Think anyone would take Hank and that $8 million off our hands? He plays guitar and gets on magazine covers.

Nick


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:15 pm EST

Bazz: absolutely, a spirited game

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:06 pm EST

Watching Blues Blackhawks. This is hockey. Hope Ranger brass are watching. This is why you play Big Mac. building is rocking

bazzer


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:55 pm EST

"me their hideous 17-shot showing in Game 3 at home. The Penguins made adjustments, and the Rangers never had an appropriate counterattack either in that game or in the next two games, which were disastrous. That’s an indictment on Vigneault and the rest of the coaching staff."

stevielegs


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:53 pm EST

http://thehockeywriters.com/the-rangers-had-this-coming/

stevielegs


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:51 pm EST

Td...you mean a cap dump? Exactly what we did? Possibly...anything can happen in the nee Hard Cap world.

WIOSA


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:47 pm EST

MF: FWIW I absolutely hated the Tortorella Testudo where instead of taking time and space you just circled the wagons, and zoned up. Those teams had horrific possession numbers. They didn't give up much but they also didn't do much. My issue with AV in the aggregate was his inability to get the team to play it to its strengths. The style of aggression leads to many zone exits with numbers on the back check. That's one area that the Pens abused the New York Rangers. We are so used to seeing the New York Rangers waiting on those spread passes up the half boards and take the puck into the zone, on the stick shuttling the puck E-W. This I believe is the fatal flaw of the way AV wants to play. When it works? Great. But too often you get stood up on the blue line in the NHL. You gotta put the puck down low, finish the checks and win the battles. That is precisely what they did right when they won. AV publically addressed the media and explained that would be the template. They just came out on the ice next game and whatever was there was gone. And it wasn't the Pens that did it to them. They just lacked intensity. And when you lack intensity a team like the Pens smell the blood in the water and they come right in for the kill. I mean I don't think the Pens were that much better a team. I think they were hotter for sure but they surely wanted it 5x more then the New York Rangers did. I really think the New York Rangers new identity needs to reflect that physical, forechecking style that pins you in 200' from your net and just mauls you along the boards. This is what JT, Chris Krieder, Nash, and even MZA are built to do. I think the fatal flaw with E Staal is that AV didn't put him with JT and Chris Krieder and sent them out to rough up the other team. I just watched the SJ series and what did they do? They moved Couture up to Joe's flank and had Pavelski on the other side. Absolutely gave Los Angeles Kings fits. With the lead they broke up that line and went back and put Couture at 2 and Marleau at 3. Then they were balanced. But they had a line that LA had no answer for. Pit had an answer for the Stepan line and the Brassard line. And PIT surely had an answer for a Staal line hamstrung with a dancing ice ballerina. THAT is where I fault AV. He had an all world center who was struggling but you paid a lot for and was a well known forechecker and 2 big bodies who are fast and physical with a nose for the net. And JT to me always looked comfortable on the other side. That's what I found most maddening. When all else is failing, put your best players together and try to make something happen. Just some random rants...

E


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:36 pm EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-kings-rangers-red-wings-face-tough-decisions-in-off-season/

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:27 pm EST

Good read here IMO: Focus on Head Coach HITCHCOCK, his win now situation, David Backes, RHS Dman Shattenkirk, and the future of the STL Blues.....http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/what-exactly-is-at-stake-for-the-st-louis-blues-in-game-7/

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:10 pm EST

TD...There were four teams shopping for a goalie and you were one of the people...I believe..who said we didnt have a cap problem. Trading a thurd line winger with good defensive capabilities and terrific on the PK for an AHL winger who scored even less, was slower, had less experience, noPK expertise...made no sense...until we look at salary.

WIOSA


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:04 pm EST

WIOSA - re: HAGELIN, you might want to talk to the Pens after they're eliminated by Washington. They're going into next season with 19 players under contract and cap space of zero. They'll have $200,000 if the cap goes up to $74 million. Wouldn't surprise me if he's traded again.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:00 pm EST

RF: also, if we pencil in McIlrath for Boyle, & Lindberg for Moore at 4th line center, where would we be in avg team age? Bottom 3rd? 1/4?

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:57 pm EST

RF4L--I also contend that Slats screwed himself playing hardball with pending UFA's like Girardi, resulting in his having to give too much salary AND NMC's to keep them. The better plan would have been to determine who you wanted to keep earlier and sign them to more cap-friendly deals without the NMC's. If you want to keep a guy, why allow him to get to their walk year? It is insanity and the reason Girardi and Staal's contracts are anchors and Stralman, Brian Boyle, Hagelin and Callahan are gone.

Bob


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:51 pm EST

mf - the idea of packaging TALBOT and HAGELIN was of the Wall's and fan's creation. Truth is, there were only a handful of teams that needed a starter. One of those teams nabbed Martin JONES, which significantly reduced the Rangers' options...So basically, the only team you could really offer that deal to was Edmonton and what the hell would they want with Hags? Rhet0ric is spot on here, when he says the market for Hags wasn't exactly huge...third-line winger with stone hands who wanted $4 million plus in a multi-year deal. I think the Rangers got exactly what they want for him...maybe even more than they wanted.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:51 pm EST

Should've said...to the Pens he was worth every dime. Not so much for us. Although I wonder what we would've paid to have his PK, defense and speed back this playoff?

WIOSA


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:49 pm EST

And for the youth movement: Jumbo Joe who will turn 37 this July finished 4th in league scoring.... San Jose is moving on to round 2 .... http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/statistics.cgi

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:47 pm EST

Rhett....ummm Stem was a feisty round pick. Right now, Javelin is a second line winger, and first p a hiring PK. Would he be that on any other team? 1st PK? Yes.....2nd line? No. The reality is he was the winger t hat got Kessel going...so he is w ok r th his contra

WIOSA


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:46 pm EST

RF4L - You're really grasping at straws here if you're comparing the Finn the Ducks got being in the WJC and GROPP being left off the stacked Canadian roster...NATTINEN might be a good prospect, but he didn't do squat for Finland, which pulls its players from a much smaller pool...Like I said, Gropp was a guy who many had going in the late first round. HAGELIN was going to get dealt anyway...but when Gropp dropped and the Ducks were willing to give up both the pick and ETEM, who York is correct in saying they've had their eyes on for years, it was a no-brainer deal...Now I hate to stick my neck out for anyone from the WHL...but from everything that has been said about Gropp, he sounds like the EXACT type of player the team needs in the system: A big, physical forward who will probably hit 6'3 and a playing weight of 215 who has good speed and loves to drive to the net...His numbers have continued to go up too...As for JENSEN, I can only say what I've personally observed and he was easily the most complete player in Hartford. More so than HRIVIK who had his first NHL games or some of the other quasi-NHLers(MEGNA, ADAM and GIBBONS for instance). Is he an all-star? Doubt it. But I'd be willing to bet he's in the Rangers' lineup to start the year...you want to criticize a deal, grab one that has already played out as an awful deal: Rick NASH. Rangers lost to quality depth players and a prospect who looks very encouraging. They got a guy who racks up goals when they don't matter that much...And not to sound like a broken record, but the only salvation we have with the Nash deal is that the BUCHNEVICH pick was part of it. You want a deal to complain about, I'd say there's your target.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:40 pm EST

Bob....yep. And Sather has not won the big prize since 1989 which is incredibly, 27 years of failure, nearly 2/3s of which have been spent as the Ranger architect. Worse, in his desperate attempt at one last grasp of triumph, he's left the Rangers as the 2nd oldest team in the NHL, with a bunch of albatross contracts, with a slew of NMCs, and a very compromised feeder system. The most impressive feat Sather has accomplished in those 27 years is fooling the idiot in charge of MSG and landing a job for life contract. It's actually quite laughable.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:35 pm EST

For Ranger Salaries / Cap Hits / Trade Clauses: http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/new-york-rangers

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:34 pm EST

Rhet: Again, it's not Hagelin for EE and the 41st. It's Hagelin AND the 59th AND a 6th rounder for that return. Fleeced without a doubt. How bad that fleecing turns out to be will depend on how the kids selected with those 3 picks turn out. Worse, as I keep saying, it's more than reasonable to believe a higher pick than the 41st could have been had, minus that flotsam EE, flotsam that appeared to have fetched more flotsam. At least Gorton recouped the 6th rounder he traded originally.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:34 pm EST

The Hags deal did not bother me as much as the Talbot deal, where Chiarelli made Slats look like an amateur. Slats passed on a better offer from Floriday thinking he could extort the Oilers, and ended up with "sloppy seconds." I remember reading how Dale Tallon thought he had a deal for Talbot that Slats reneged on. So here we sit. My problem is that everything fell into place almost miraculously and they came back on Pittsburgh, played an incredibly weak Montreal and got to the finals where they were beaten by LA in 5. They folded in the conference finals to a very weak NJ team, and last year lost to Tampa without Zucc and with 4 broken defensemen. That is their run, and their window. So they went for it, gave up way too much for unproductive mercenaries and the window has closed. Now what? I get the feeling that this coach cannot be bothered with managing the team now. He does not hold them accountable and whomever is responsible for this total failure of a defensive zone system ( AV, Ulf or Arniel) needs to go. Gordon made some good deals for Boston. I hope he does for the Rangers. And regardless, Sather's tenure has been a failure since he came to NY. Zero championships. From the guy who said that if he "had the Rangers money he would win the cup every year."

Bob


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:33 pm EST

RF: Bet if you remove Boyle & Dom Moore from that equation we drop well into the league avg....

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:32 pm EST

RF4L: I really liked your post from this morning at Mon Apr 25 2016 8:08 am EST: ... Nash is tradeable if the Rangers eat some of his salary. Girardi, too, perhaps. And I'm serious in my thoughts about the King - Gorton should approach him about being moved. Don't ask him to accept a trade - he's too proud and competitive and has been too fabulous for the Rangers. Instead, quietly approach him and say something like 'a retool is in order and we may dip a bit before we start another upswing - do you want me to explore a trade and if so, to who?' .... IMO, IMO, IMO what also is needed is a thoughtful professional politically correct approach to NASH, M.STAAL, and GIRADI, BRASSARD (since it seems he has a NTC too) stating that management feels that changes must be made, that the team as currently constructed has run its course, that the NTC's & NMC's have us handcuffed, and we request that each of you submit a list of teams which you would accept a trade to & perhaps what order of preference... We will do our best to honor your wishes........ QUESTION: Do the RANGERS have any leverage to ask these players to submit a list of teams they'd accept being traded to with these "clauses?" t/y

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:27 pm EST

Rhet: You're right - the cut-off date is September 15 (must be 18 by that date to be eligible for the draft) and Gropp's b-day is the 16th. However, the AHL rules say if a drafted player is 20 by the end of the calendar year and has played in the CHL prior to being drafted, he doesn't have to be returned to juniors. Therefore, if the Rangers want, he can go to the AHL this fall. Gropp has a decent season statistically (36 goals and 70 points in 66 games) but certainly nothing eye opening if his upside is a top 6 winger. IMO unless he wows in camp, another year of junior where hopefully, he dominates offensively, might be prudent.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:18 pm EST

BTW, the Rangers are currently the 2nd oldest team in the NHL. Nice, eh?

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:11 pm EST

RHET - "Jensen is a former 1st round pick and that's not enough of a return for a Carl Hagelin? If Gropp also makes it to the NHL"...Of course it isn't, becasue it doesn't mater what the hell Jensen WAS, it matters what he IS...And that's an AHL player, ....Hags is no star but he was a good top 9 forward and PKer that the Rangers could have desperately used in this past series....As for Gropp, if and but's mean little right now

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:09 pm EST

BTW, Ryan Gropp is only 19 years old. He turns 20 in September and is eligible to play another season in Juniors (the kid was 18 when we drafted him, but he has an earlier birthday) ....MF.... Gorton sure has his work cut out for him this off season (I don't know that I'd want the job). We'll find out what he's made of then and hopefully he's up to the task.

Rhet0ric


Mon Apr 25 2016 5:36 pm EST

TD: The Ducks got those 2 guys AND the 59th pick (that Finnish kid, who BTW, played for the Finnish championship team in the WJC - Gropp didn't get a sniff with Team Canada) AND a 6th. Bad trade IMO.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 5:36 pm EST

has, not is.....

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 5:35 pm EST

Rhet, good point... maybe they did try.... I'm getting tired of the Ranger Brass keeping me out of the loop.... This is got to change....

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 5:34 pm EST

WIOSA: I think most of us concur it was a cap dump. The point is that S/G could/should have done better that what they fetched and gave up. Hags and the 59th overall should have landed a late first, without a doubt. That makes me wonder about 1) S/G's competency and 2) how badly, for whatever inane reason, they wanted EE.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 5:29 pm EST

E: should have read: NOT discarded"

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 5:28 pm EST

Hagelin's a 3rd line forward. How much does everyone here think he's actually worth? Jensen is a former 1st round pick and that's not enough of a return for a Carl Hagelin? If Gropp also makes it to the NHL, how could this deal be characterized as anything but a steal? ....MF... How do you know they didn't try to do that? How many teams do you think wanted a 3rd liner who wanted $4 Mil per? The guy has hands of stone.

Rhet0ric


Mon Apr 25 2016 5:26 pm EST

Yorkie/mf... THAT is what I think happened. I think Sather had a deal for a high round DP..a bundle done on a handshake..and they screwed him at the last minute. So he took the m lesser deal for Cam and was shopping Hags seperately because he HAD to. Just a hunch, no inside info..As for who was the winner...NFW were the Ducks losers they took off with the Pen additions...ditto for Kessel in the Pens. So far, we're the team that took two steps back.. but nfw was it just the loss of Cam and Hags. JMO

WIOSA


Mon Apr 25 2016 5:17 pm EST

WIOSA et al: Remember, we were trading CAM TALBOT and the perception at the time was that his value was peaking... The thing to do (and I repeated it over and over) was to bundle Talbot and Hagelin for top six, possibly top 3 talent... The NYRangers blew that opportunity BIG time... We had a unique and rare opportunity there.... I believe this to be factual. (now that was an opinion! :-))

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 5:07 pm EST

VIC: Totally agree on your point about the players lack of pride, effort, etc... "however" just as Nash was brought in to produce on par with 1st line "offensive" talent, this coach is paid handsomely to coach.. This team did not come prepared for the playoffs. The "fickle" in me is still weighing the pro's and cons of axing him, and when, but he's cashing a real nice check to do a job just like the players........ The New York Rangers have reportedly hired Alain Vigneault to be their next head coach. The contract is for five years and worth $10 million US, according to several media reports........ http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/alain-vigneault-inks-5-year-deal-to-coach-rangers-reports-1.1336836

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 4:53 pm EST

basically the same team made it to the finals, 1 win away from the finals, and 1 win and done this year. the fishtank captain got them to the next round. the nyr captain cost them the finals last year, and got them to the next round of golf...FORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....with his coach's approval.....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 25 2016 4:41 pm EST

VIC - BTW, I also know alot of the players deserve the blame and wrath, I just think AV was the Grand Poobah master architect of the teamwide disgrace/mess..

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 4:39 pm EST

YORK - "but all forwards back checking and falling back and blocking shots. Sully did what AV should have done" Exactly........and what I just said, and I was harping on that all year..The defensive covergage by the forwards downright sucked and, while D-men like Girardi and Boyle struggled by themselves, they didn't stand a chance without the help.........The other big team-wide strategy error by AV that bugged me all year (and Brooks finally pointed it out today) was the needless roaming (and not getting back) of the D-men in their man-on-man coverages..and leaving the front of the net totally exposed bacuse nether they or the forwards would rotate back.....Plain and simple, AV SUCKED this year....Is he going anywhere? Nope...

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 4:31 pm EST

RF4L - That's how Hockeydb has the trade listed. But I think it's on error. Regardless, I don't think we'll have any idea of how good or bad the HAGELIN deal was until next year...but FWIW, all the Ducks got for him was PERRON and CLENDENING, the latter whom they lost on waivers and the former who is a UFA this summer...So if there's a loser in the trade, it's the Ducks unless they can resign Perron...which is debatable. Even so, Hags was a goner after 2015-2016. They weren't gonna sign him to the contract he got from the Ducks and his trade value was never higher than it was at the draft table. If the Rangers walk away with two NHLers for him, they got a steal.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 4:29 pm EST

WIOSA you're misunderstanding me, The ducks were the only team willing to part with something the Rangers wanted which was Etem. They wanted that kid, I said before that deal was 90% in place before the draft not sure why no one seems to get that and thinks the ducks GM overheard Sather lamenting Hags and jumped all over him and took advantage.............................M Why do you think the Pens were? They are a hybrid of Torts and AVs system, fast transition and breakout, but all forwards back checking and falling back and blocking shots. Sully did what AV should have done.

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 4:21 pm EST

As far as the D, no matter who we get rid of, who we keep, who we sign, they are alll gonna get abused next year if the forwards continue to play the lazy leave-one-man-open D-zone coverage that AV either wanted them to play or couln;t get them to change....The latter means you need a whole new slew of forwards.and/or a new coach..the former measn you need a new coach

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 4:16 pm EST

MF - While I liked the RADULOV of years ago..I agree there gotta be concerns about him......I'm just saying he could be a target of the Rangers, as has been rumored....Personally, I think he could be either a boom or a VALBOT bust....It's why you only sign him to 1 one-year show me what you got contract..

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 4:11 pm EST

E: The team may have needed an X's & O's type coach, but the team he did inherited had one of the lowest GAA's in the league, and a team who had defense memorized in their reactions and being.... I would have built off of that and discarded that... Why dispense of something the squad is Tops In The League at? Poor judgment call by the coach... BTW, I love the quick transition mentality AV has implemented, especially on the heals of the Tort's Blueprint.... IF I were brought in, this team would practice a hybrid of each......

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 3:58 pm EST

YORK.....the MSL and Nash deals got us thisclose to the cup. YOU really believe the Hags deal was about Emerson Etem????? A player he didn't even give a real chance to? Uh-huh. Sure. It was a cap dump. Someone had to go. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

WIOSA


Mon Apr 25 2016 3:57 pm EST

Hospo: Welcome back, hope all works out....... RADULOV? Chartacter defective, just say no....

mf


Mon Apr 25 2016 3:40 pm EST

RF It was a horrible trade along with the Prince trade and the Yandle trade, the MSL trade, the Nash trade, the Gabby trade away. I honestly think Sather AND Gorton shite the bed when it came to trades during the last 5 years

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 3:20 pm EST

Gropp will start in Hartford because he's too old for junior, unless he goes back as an over-ager, meaning he's a year older than most of the kids who were drafted last year. It will be interesting to monitor his progress vs Julius Nättinen who the Ducks took with the 59th pick Sather/Gorton generously offered up. I hold no animosity towards Gropp and sure hope he's the real deal.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 3:17 pm EST

york: Well if you're right so am I: Stupid and lousy trade. Not as bad as the silly Yandle and MSL ones mind you, but then again, not many are.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 3:16 pm EST

TD: Where did that 3rd rounder come from? Please explain...

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 3:14 pm EST

RF You really believe that bullshit about he overheard sather talking about not being able to resign Hags LMAO come on I know you don't like Sather but how friggin stupid do you really think he is. He's letting people over hear his troubles and how he doesn't know what to do LMAO you believe that hold on (said in a kind of whisper) Hey man I have this gold mine and I just can't work it I'm too tired I need to get rid of it. Let me know what ya think anyone maybe you wanna buy it from me? The Rangers wanted to get etem and thought about trading up for him the year he was drafted. That deal was finalized on the floor it wasn't started on the floor. You guys crack me up

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 3:13 pm EST

And FWIW, GROPP is expected to start in Hartford next season.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:55 pm EST

RF4L – Just for your edification, the deal is now HAGELIN, the 59th overall and 179th overall for GROPP, JENSEN and a third-rounder in 2017…and that’s not a bad haul at all. Wished we had grabbed PALMIERI instead of ETEM…and wished Etem got more of a shot than he did…but whatever…Not for nothing. But all reports on GROPP are that he’s an impressive prospect…ironically, he’s now playing on a line with Isles’ first rounder, Matt BARZAL…the scouting on the kid was that he was projected to go in the late first round, but that because he’s a ‘meat-and-potatoes’ player without flash, he dropped to the second round…Never seen him personally…My scouting on JENSEN is that he’s ready for a shot in the NHL and that he’ll likely replace STALBERG next season. Better skater, better two-way player. He’ll have every chance to make the Rangers’ bottom six…So I knew when the Rangers got bounced, there’d be a degree of Monday morning quarterbacking on Hagelin…and I’ve always said I would have rather seen the Rangers move a slug like NASH instead of him…but to say that deal will go down as ‘one of the worst’ is really both jumping the gun and overrating what Hags did in New York. The Rangers certainly missed Hags, but even if they had him on the roster, they would have met the same end. The problems in New York are linked almost exclusively to leadership. Hags was a good soldier, but no leader, IMO.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:54 pm EST

I think AV wanted Glass, I actually don't dislike Tanner ....Boyle? Yandle? I think they were Sather's idea. For the record, I like Yandle and think he's a keeper, an d until this season, Boyle really wasn't that bad......I personally think we depended on JT and Kreider to fill the gaps. JT started coming along, but Kreider? Don't get me started. I dont think AV is good with young players. That said I'm not so anxious to show him the door yet.'JMHO

WIOSA


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:47 pm EST

VIC--Well that was an assumption based on AV's love affair with defensemen that can pass and move the puck, but it adds up. He expressed his happiness when they were both acquired. It appears that the only player management saddled him with that he did not care for was Dylan McIlrath. If AV stays, I expect that McIlrath goes.

Bob


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:43 pm EST

**NON HOCKEY** I understand the man responsible for auto-correct has passed away. May he RESTAURANT IN PEACE.

WIOSA


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:40 pm EST

BOB: Hold on. Who said AV wanted all of those guys? First, BOYLE was signed after SATHER refused to pay STRALMAN what TAMPA offered. YANDLE? SATHER had been coveting YANDLE for years. Every year there was a YANDLE to the Rangers rumor. STAAL? It sure looked like AV had STAAL penciled in as a 3rd liner since the day he got here. Didn't look like STAAL fit into what this team was at all. And GLASS? Who knows. Maybe AV wanted him. Maybe SATHER approached him and asked what he thought about GLASS. I don't know either way. I do know that he sent GLASS to Hartford this year for a long stretch and only recalled him when ETEM proved to be the bust that we all expected he would be.

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:39 pm EST

TD: The other thing about Stamkos that is concerning is his injury record. That broken ankle was more flukey than anything else I concur, but it did happen and now this, which is potentially serious stuff.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:38 pm EST

SPOT on BOB!!1

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:37 pm EST

VIC - to me, it's simple, when a few players or select individual playe like that (as was often the case with HAYES) i get pissed at the player big time....When it's a TEAM-WIDE DiSGRACE..when there is no team passion, no team chemistry, no team identity, not team guts it is the fault of the COACH for not getting that out of his player who almost all have shown the opposite before this year...Why didn't thye care? Why didnt' they try? Why weren't thye forced to?

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:30 pm EST

WIOSA: I'm not necesarily arguing about who was moved for cap relief, I'm arguing about what was fetched and how it sounds like Sather/Gorton didn't do their due diligence and spend the proper time and energy shopping for the best deal. I truly find it difficult to believe a first couldn't have been fetched for Hags, a 2nd and a 6th. Unless Sather/Gorton truly believed they could fix whatever was ailing EE - under Sather's watch we've certainly seen that foolhardy thinking before (remember the Korp for Lisin deal?). Either way, it was a bad deal.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:30 pm EST

It seems that the Rangers management gave AV what he wanted. Boyle, Glass, Yandle, E. Staal. With those players, they shat the bed. Worse. the work ethic that epitomized this club vanished, replaced by lazy, goldbricking players who seemed to have better things to do than to apply themselves to their jobs. The change in defensive systems has become a disaster, with defensemen chasing forwards out to the blue line and forwards not covering for them. leading to a shocking number of uncontested goals right in front of the goalies. The PK also went completely into the crapper. All the while, the smug coach smirked and chewed his gum, but nothing changed. Nothing improved, and there was zero accountability. This is the current NY Rangers. The systems and the culture are broken. Can these be recovered with the current coaching staff? Surely not with the current staff and the current players, because it is not working now.

Bob


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:28 pm EST

Vic: Of course the players share the blame. But what are you going to do? Trade all 21 of them? Of course not. For sure, however, you cut into the core. Keeping AV is a huge risk because he let these 21 players coast all season and this is the second consecutive team he's coached where this happened. If I was in charge I'd think long and hard about keeping him. A setback next year under this man could cost Gorton his job (along with AV's).

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:26 pm EST

RF4L...I too read the interview with Murray...also saw pictures later on of their two tables next to each other, so I do believe Sather did that deal. However, within two days he was turning over the reigns to a new GM...hard to believe he would make that move without the incoming GM' s agreement. So I look to the whole picture. Etem was obviously not the driving force behind that deal...money was. So, if you go with the theory that it was a cap move...who else would they move instead? I would've done Kreider, but most wouldn't have. Besides I'm not sure that would've provided immediate relief. My point is, (shrug) they didn't have much choice, no matter who it was. Going forward, E Staal was Gorton' s and I know I'm in the minority, but that wasn't a bad deal. There is still hope. IMHO

WIOSA


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:24 pm EST

York – Bout the only reasons I can think STAMKOS might look here are that the Rangers will pay him $11 million per and that the team has a solid young core that should keep it competitive. Also I think there’s a natural draw players have for New York: You get to be a professional athlete in one of the world’s best cities, but because New Yorkers are baseball, football and basketball-centric, you don’t have to be in the searing heat you get in say Montreal or Toronto…that said, I’ve seen nothing to suggest he’s thinking anywhere except Toronto. He could captain that team to an epic turnaround, especially given that they’re gonna be in the Austen MATTHEWS sweepstakes and already have a very impressive stable of youth…I too am not sold on a guy like Stamkos, though E is right: He’s the best and youngest player to test free agency in perhaps the modern history of the NHL…but I’ve also seen Stamkos shut down…and there’s part of me that believes he would be continuing the Rangers’ storied history of going after marquee players that essentially grab a paycheck and run.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:23 pm EST

HOSPO: To each his own but man we focus our anger in different directions. You say that you can't watch a team coached by AV. I have a hard time watching the gutless pukes who wore the uniform. Watching RUST, SHEARY, CULLEN, KUNHACKL, etc. outplay BRASSARD, STEPAN, MZA, KREIDER, NASH, etc. didn't make me angry at the coach. It made me angry at those players who played like they didn't care. Watching their disinterested, lethargic play, their lack of desire and heart was infuriating. Don't those players bear the responsibility for their play? Don't they look in the mirror and care that they are being outplayed by AHL level players? And if you are saying that lack of heart and desire is on the coach I call BS. Are they professional athletes or not? They have no pride in themselves or the organization unless the coach provides it? BS. They are grown men. I don't give a rats ass if they fire AV tomorrow because he shares in this but the blame for this disaster falls on the people who wear the uniform and the people who are responsible for assembling this team. And by disaster I don't mean losing. By disaster I mean the gutless, effortless, lack of desire that those players hit the ice with.

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:16 pm EST

If Ryan Gropp fizzles out that Hagelin trade may go down as one of the most lopsided deals in recent Ranger history. What folks keep forgetting is that while the Rangers got EE (which is now Jenssen and a 6th rounder) and the 41st pick (Gropp), they gave up, along with Hagelin, a lower second rounder (59) and a 6th rounder. IMO, that's inexplicable. Gropp had better become a fine NHLer because surely, something better than the 41st pick and a border line NHL could have been had for Hags, a 2nd and a 6th rounder.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:09 pm EST

RF4L - Her's my issue.. The Rangers still have some pretty damn good talent....While a retooling does sound rationale...and it won't bother me....so does making the right signings/trades and still going for it.....But..it can't be done with this coach...He has shown over and over again in two places that he can't get the ultimate job done....And I know I have zero interest in watching a team coached by that DB,,,

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:06 pm EST

lou: Some argue that Gorton engineered those deals but if you watch the video, Sather is directly involved and if you read the quotes from the Duck GM, he overheard Sather talking about not being able to resign Hags (at the draft) and dialogued with Sather. If they are solely Gorton's handiwork, we could be in for a HORRIBLE summer.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:05 pm EST

On AV>>>>>>I'm mery concerned. Can he bring kids along (and that will have to happen now) through his stubborn side that had him challenging the first Detroit offsides-goal in the last regular season game. Everyone on the planet knew going through the Atlantic was easier, but that offsides-challenge and to some degree the first round matchup against the Pens is on him. Gotta give the FishTanks credit for tanking – everyone except AV would have signed up for that. BUT, getting through another round or two might have hid the warts we all saw happen. 2. Nash – time to go, if we can get something for him, but what? 3. The Hagelin fiasco is on Sather. You had a player under contract for 1 more year that would have played out of his mind in a contract year and you got NOTHINNG for him – except screwing up your 2nd and 3rd line rotations. Oh, and you eliminated the stretch pass since Kreider was about the only long threat you had left. 4. I’d like to know how bad Girardi was hurt during the season. I doubt we’re going to get much for him and I doubt he will waive his no-trade easily. He’s married, with kids and will probably no want to move. Move him down the 3rd D-pair of minutes. If he was continually hurt, then it’s on AV and coaching staff for letting him come back too many times too quickly. 5. McIlrath – gotta play him consistently for 41 games to see what we have here. He seemed to be one of the few who played with passion in the only game he played – and he’s a rare physical threat in front of Hank. Same goes for Pavel – let’s see what we’ve got here. 6. Hank – He probably came into the playoffs knowing if he gave up 2 goals, there was a high probability they lose. It’s psychological all right, but it’s the fact he has no confidence someone will protect him and no confidence that the team was constructed to win this year. 7. I love Stepan – but this series confirms he’s a great #2 center. 8. Carp – what did you see from Brass after these games How does he wind up disappearing for most of the season and in the playoffs. 9. Take a page out of the Yankees playbook – fire a couple of assistants, especially the PK and PP coaches. Dreadful – simply dreadful. Wonder what the chemistry is between them also. BTW: Great time to give the season ticket holders their largest price increase in history. Taking out the corporate folks, MSG is probably lucky most real fans had enough in the seller-credit banks to cover the 16-17 season due to the first round debacle. And we wonder why half the building didn’t know who John Amirante was- thanks MSG.

rangerlou


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:03 pm EST

Hospo: It is a tad dramatic, I concur. But the jest of the article is accurate IMO - it was a fun ride but that ride is over and now it's time to retool the machine that gave us the ride so we can wind up for another one (preferably with a better climax - my words).

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:02 pm EST

Correct me if I’m wrong – weren’t the Hagelin and Talbot deals made “officially” while Slats was still GM? Not saying Gorton is blameless, but wasn’t Slats still GM when those deals were done?

rangerlou


Mon Apr 25 2016 2:00 pm EST

LeoS- Thanks my man! ..yeah..the fingers are flying..sometimes I just don't know whare when i get all pissed off.

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:59 pm EST

RF4L - I tried reading that article.....Couldn't ..whole 1st half was meanigless drivel..skimmed the rest ..seemed to be caught up on over-rated youth..

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:58 pm EST

Hospo - that's some list and you didn't even get to the lights out goaltending tandem of Zatkoff-Murray. Clearly you're fine, as you handily smacked down WIOSA's challenge to the Typo Title in your first two posts today :)

LeoS


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:52 pm EST

The game we won in Pittsburgh we played with anger and emotions. Why did Veenyo have to screw up those lines. Someone tell me???

rangerlou


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:49 pm EST

Hire Claude Julien cant be any worse???????????????????/

rangerlou


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:47 pm EST

lou: It will be interesting to see how Sheary fares against the Caps. Against the Rangers he looked like a legitimate top 6 forward with speed and skill. Looking at his stats career-wise, one would never have expected that. I suspect he won't be nearly as effective going forward. The Rangers ineptitude he took advantage of without a doubt.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:43 pm EST

Rust, Conor Sheary and Kuhnackl were all better than any Rangers forward in this series, and that’s not even mentioning Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Patric Hornqvist, Phil Kessel, at all. And it wasn’t close with those guys.

rangerlou


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:39 pm EST

lou: Yep and the guy leading them was selected first overall....

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:39 pm EST

Stamkos maybe the single biggest UFA superstar of the modern era. That stated, I am not sold that he is worth the max contract he will get...

E


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:39 pm EST

Decent article (for a change) by this dude, although it's clear he thinks about as highly as AV when it comes to McI: http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2016/4/24/11487332/the-day-the-new-york-rangers-music-died

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:33 pm EST

As much as i hate the FU@KING Iceholes. They have a captain that leads by example. A team that plays eith emotions, urgency and courage. every player is accountable. And a coach that does not take a crap except winning. Tanking that last game of the season worked out for them. Rangers should learn from them. Bunch of weasels we are.

rangerlou


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:28 pm EST

Oh and plus you have a first and second round pick. I don't think any of these moves are unrealistic, either. There are assets at Gorton's disposal, but all 3 trades are tough, especially the McD one.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:26 pm EST

Here's more thoughts on Stamkos: Can the Rangers afford him and Nash and the King? Can they afford 2 of the above? If Nash is moved, then aren't we sorta back to where we are now, which is only 1 top end skilled forward? That said, it also depends on what Gorton does with the roster overall. For example, what if he moves McD for Taylor Hall? And say Nash to St Louis for a first? And Stepan to the Preds for Ryan Ellis and a 2nd? You now have 2 top end forwards, a yong puck moving d-man and the cap space for Hall and Stamkos. Of course I'm not predicting these moves will occur, just musing about the possibilities. The key here is there are possibilities, depending on the foresight and gonads of Gorton.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:19 pm EST

I, too, am not sold on the Stamkos pursuit. It sounds so much like what we've over the years before - bright and shiny and expensive object becomes available and the Rangers run right to it. That said, at the same time I get the allure. Stamkos is a true star who's still young enough to anticipate bringing lots of value to the Rangers.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:17 pm EST

Ranger47 - swell, unless you get a team that magically becomes faster and quicker and more talented than anybody else, his voice and straegies will continue to fail with a vet team......Before this year, AV was propped up by the ranagers advantage in speed/quickness over almost everybody.It was the front office that did the job....That is not true anymore, but AV kept banging his head against the wall... and AV has no clue how to adapt or react...Well, except for TRIPLE SHIFTING Jasper FASST and playing Raphael Diaz!

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:17 pm EST

York: as usual, incorrect...

E


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:13 pm EST

I honestly don't believe how anybody could even remotley defend AV after watching the second half of the season, especially after the deadline (9W 10L)..and the series that just took place and what the Penguins TEAM did as coached by Mike SULLIVAN with pieces named Fehr, Rust, Kuhnackl, Shearry, Cullen, Ranger retread Hagelin, Dumolin,, Lovejoy, cole....Thye did it as a TEAM, with coaching, passion, discipline and leadership from their top players....THe Rangers got none of the above and it begins at the head..

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:10 pm EST

Brassard = ?? Stephan= #2 center not a number ...trade one of them Hayes= keep Kreider=keep Nash= BYE Zuc=keep Fast = 4th liner ? linberg = 4th liner? Stahlberg= BYE moore=?? Stall = keep for less$$$ Glass= BYE Girardi= BYE Stall=?? Boyle = why ask Klein = kepper MCD= keeper maybe not a captain to much for him?? Mclrath =keeper Skei=why ask =keeper yandle = keep if $$$$$ lundqust= keep AV= BYE

vcp1994


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:09 pm EST

E I guess you don't believe in where there is smoke.

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 1:06 pm EST

Looking at the history of our ownership, I think it's extremely unlikely that they fire AV unless it is a mutual decision due to the "retool" we will be facing. Hopefully both see that he's not the ideal coach to work with younger players as we rebuild (i.e. see his handling of vets vs others like McI). It's been a fun run for a few years but we should now look to move some players for picks and/or younger players.

Ranger47


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:58 pm EST

York: I don't defend AV. I qualify hyperbole. there is a difference.

E


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:51 pm EST

I'm curious why everyone thinks Stamkos would even want to come to NY, other than money that is? I really don't think bringing in a guy who comes only for the pay day is a smart idea, how many times has that been done to failure? I just don't know, he really looked up to MSL maybe MSL puts in a good word about playing in NY but other than that I don't see what the attraction for him is considering he has friends on other teams, and maybe wants to play at home..........................E you sure defend AV an awful lot, everything anyone says just can't be true it seems. He loves Wrath, he isn't to blame for the team not adapting to a change in roster I'm curious what does fall into his wheel house in terms of his failure if there is any?

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:47 pm EST

RF4L - Believe it or not, I'm actually ready to get on board with that strategy now..The can kicking should be done..Well, there should be one more can kicked and that's AV's..He was horrendous this past year..his shelf life and voice is over...But. if the Rangers keep him, that will impact the moves they make..Lord knows AV doesn;t want nay part of a rebuilding..Just give him more Jasper Fast's anfd Raphael Doaz'..!

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:45 pm EST

If AV stays, he needs to alter his hands-off ways for sure and he needs to be more patient with some of the younger players. I guess in his defense if the mantra was cup or bust, he's gonna lean on his vets. Therefore, Gorton and team must all get on the same page and that should be 'we're not rebuilding, but we're retooling and that may mean we take hit for a bit in the standings'.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:44 pm EST

TD: Re landing a first rounder this June. My God I hope you're right - no first for 4 straight years. Yikes. And I know lots of people poo-poo the value of first rounders after about half way thru but geeesh, look how well Skjei performed and guess where he was picked....28th! Even if Gorton lands a pick in the 20s and say a 2nd rounder, that will be worth lauding IMO.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:43 pm EST

TDCHI - Thanks..More of a caretaker this weekend..Brother's family in an accident..But all recovering!..As for the Rangers, I should have written clearer...I do not think they will stand pat with personnel...but I think they will with AV..and that's a death sentence to me......I think they will make alot of moves (signings and trades) this off season but I'm just not sure if they want to go more for the rebuild/remodel or another "kick at th can"...That will determine the type of trades and signings.

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:40 pm EST

Should have added that one big reason I think a dip next year is going to happen is because Gorton shouldn't be trading vets for vets - the team needs to get younger and start restocking the feeder system. Doing that will likely hit the overall talent level on the big team, at least temporarily.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:38 pm EST

Hospo – Glad you’re feeling better for whatever was ailing ya’…Not sure if you’re saying the Rangers are going to ‘stand pat’ so to speak…if so, we totally disagree. The more or less changed little last year and ended up with this mess…and to Gorton’s defense, I personally thought the team looked incredible on paper and even in execution at times…I HIGHLY doubt he’s going to do status quo. Out of the 22 players who ended the season as Rangers, I suspect we’ll see about 13 or 14 back. Think the overhaul is going to be MUCH more pronounced…and not to keep bringing it up, but I would bet my bottom dollar the Rangers are going to aggressively pursue STAMKOS until he signs somewhere. I think his days in Tampa are done and if there was a hope of him signing there, he’d have done it by now. That said, the Rangers will need to clear at least $7 million in additional cap space to get him on board. And that means trading BRASSARD or STEPAN…I would trade Brass in a heartbeat, but apparently he has a NTC. No such clause for Step…if Stamkos falls through I could see the team bringing Eric STAAL back at a discount and still moving one of those guys. At least one of the big-ticket forwards needs to go. And I think they will move GIRARDI as well...part of the change will be getting younger on D…one guy who might be able to jump in next season is Calle ANDERSSON. He’s actually an AV-like player. Limited to half a season due to injury, I could see him making a push for the team if Girardi is, in fact, moved. Regardless, I think Gorton is going to be VERY active this off-season. And I suspect we see a couple of shocking moves in the run up to the draft. I DON’T see the Rangers picking their first pick at 77th...And given some of the types of players that will be going in the first, I bet he takes a giant stab at getting a pick for mid round in the first.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:38 pm EST

E: Of course, I cannot argue definitively against what you say (which primarily is that because we aren't close to the team, we don't know anything for certain). What I (we actually) can say for certain however, is that what we saw this year is almost exactly what brought the man down in Vancouver. What's different there is management neglected to recognize a retool/rebuild was necessary and fired AV but left the core of the team intact. The latter was a mistake we know now (FWIW I knew then it was a mistake) - the Canucks have steadily grown worse since AV left (to the point where the GM was fired). IMO, if Gorton doesn't cut into the core, the same will happen in NY, regardless of whether or not AV stays/goes. What I cannot say is who should go of the core and who shouldn't. That's up to Gorton to figure out. I concur that it's possible with the right moves the team could rebound next year, but I think that's highly unlikely - Gorton needs to think about next year and the beyond as he does, given the fact the cupboard is thin and there's no draft pick until number 77. He's got his work cutout for him. The AV decision is a big one. Can AV change? My thinking is it's a HUGE risk thinking that. What's bigger, however - his ability to change vs a new coach. There's lots of love on here for Gernander and if you go by loyalness for sure he deserves consideration. I agree that his work in Hartford, given the lack of talent Sather continually saddles him with, looks good, too. But there are many examples of long time AHL coaches with his resume who fail miserably once the get behind an NHL bench. More deliberations for Gorton. This is shaping up to be a very very interesting off-season. I hope Gorton's up to it (or else next year will suck).

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:06 pm EST

RF: I just wanna clarify something with you. You are of the mind that the NYR had a leadership crisis and AV was too hands off with the group. I don't know. This is one of those things that you can suspect. And maybe even the media can catch that fart in the room from time to time. But I don't really know if that's true. I think AV inherited a team that matured under a taskmaster and when he was fired they needed an X and O mind who would develop a game plan and execute it. And outside of the window dressing of short time x-superstars like MSL (who definitely made an impact) I cannot say for sure what the locker room looked like afterwards. But I think a few of the beat guys were right. AV is gonna have to become a more developmental coach going forward if the NYR are going to see any success. Because right now, I see a disjointed shell of what they used to be. And that team was playing in this series. But they were playing in black and yellow. So I see a few things plaguing the NYR. They lack the ability to play this game now. From top to bottom they just aren't fast enough. But they also lack that top-6 scoring threat that they needed all season and never was filled. And the defense is in tatters. The good news? There is developmental talent within the organization that can be developed on the blue line. The bad news? I have absolutely no idea how they intend to get the goal scoring they need. But I'll state this. Turning around the fortunes of this team quickly is not some impossible feat of GM wizardry. But this is Gorton's moment to begin to show if he has what it takes. We'll see.

E


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:05 pm EST

As for NEXT YEAR, I'm assuming GORTON will be going for the "Dead in the Water" model by keeping AV and not going for a rebuild...rather they will try for one more "kick at the can"....Still some moves will serve both Gotta try and trade Nash....Trade Hayes for a young player/prospect.....Bye Bye to Boyle and Yandle....trade Girardi and cash to CBJ....DO NOT re-sgin..STAAL...try and trade ONE of Step or Brass, hopefully Step....Now, who you get in any deals and what FAs you go after---STAMKOS?? RADULOV? Somw type of vet LEADER? will depend on waht they are trying to...

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 11:52 am EST

The Lack of leadership form AV and the players was obvious all year.....AV did zero adapting/motivating/changing. thought he had all the horses and that they could just play and win..NOPE. alot of teams caught up in terms of speed and quickness...The Rangers and AV didn't adapt...AV didn't deploy the strategies or change to one that best fit this year's personnel...It was a freaking farce all year by the coach....And the Rangers just do not have a leader type up front or on the backline..Nobody to motivate or kick some names and take some ass...Just workmanlike, quiet players..

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 11:27 am EST

And I should have been able to say THREE guys who can shoot the puck, but I just can't lump NASH into that category anymore. The guy is horsemeat. His contract needs to go. To piggyback on what Rhet0ric was saying a few days ago, give $11 million to STAMKOS and then start arranging the roster accordingly. Trade NASH to Toronto for whatever they’re willing to give us.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 11:23 am EST

YORK: Again, not what I said and you know it. As for CARP, I'm not agreeing with him......he is agreeing with me. I wrote those arguments yesterday...;-)

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 11:22 am EST

I think York brings up a great point about leadership and the dearth thereof. I mean, seriously…this team knuckled under at the first sign of adversity and that’s a sign of a rudderless team…Did AV help matters? Hell no. I don’t think he managed his bench very well. Started with refusing to play ETEM and McILRATH and then letting STOLL go on waivers…playing BOYLE night after night when they guy was getting beat like red-headed step child...And Tanner GLASS, as serviceable as he was going down the stretch, the guy is a traffic cone…But in retrospect, I don’t think the Rangers were a very well put together team…and even if they had a real ass-kicking coach, I suspect the results would have been the same. I mean, at one point we had seven centers and five wings filling our forward lines. We had six centers playing in our last game…and while this doesn’t sound like that big of a deal, all six are puck distributers…which sort of explains why we have lines that literally pass the puck around in the zone for a half hour…Only two guys who can really shoot the puck are KREIDER and ZUCC…the latter was invisible…and Kreider couldn’t hit the net…The Rangers used to have a problem with having not enough talent. Now that’s not a problem. It’s just that the talent is in all the wrong places. What they need now to eliminate a couple of these distributors and fill those spots with guys who like to score.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 11:17 am EST

VIC I wouldn't be glad carp agreed with me the guy if a tool, this is the same guy who said Skeij wasn't ready, that Lindberg wasn't ready and Wrath not only wasn't ready for the NHL would never be ready and couldn't skate at the NHL level he is a tool

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 11:12 am EST

Neil Smith where are you ???????????????????????

vcp1994


Mon Apr 25 2016 11:11 am EST

Dolan=Sather=sucks

vcp1994


Mon Apr 25 2016 11:10 am EST

VIC get what according to you players can't be benched and the inmates run the asylum. I guess people forgot to tell Scotty Bowman, Mike Keenan. Torts, Hitchcock, Pat Burns, QUennville, Sutter and a host of other coaches that because they never got the memo. You know what;s funny? What do all those names have in common that AV doesn't have in common with them? Oh they are all Cup winners, and some multi time winners how funny is that? I guess it's just coincidence that all those guys bench players, get in their faces call players out and I don't know actually win.

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 11:10 am EST

Scully: Well said!

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 10:26 am EST

Having watched most of this season I'm of the opinion that this Rangers team played well enough to make the playoffs in spite of Vigneault. He seems like he is a decent person and I don't really like to see anyone loose their job but I don't see how his decisions made a difference. His line combinations only lasted as long as they played well and some that did play well were abandoned. He stayed with some players long after it was obvious that they needed to watch. If that is the type of coaching that the organization is happy with this team will continue to slide into the bottom with him behind the bench.

Scully5460


Mon Apr 25 2016 10:22 am EST

YORK: I think you (and anyone else who read what I wrote) know what I meant. If you want to try to twist what I said to mean something else so be it. I'll stand by what I said and am comfortable that most folks here get it including you even if you don't want to admit it.

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 10:17 am EST

Hospo: You OK dude? Your absence was noticeable....

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 10:16 am EST

VIC so what you can't bench guys in the pros? Damn someone must have forgotten to tell redden that he got the ultimate benching went to the AHL, I guess things have changed since then you can't sit guys any more, my mistake.

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 10:16 am EST

NN: Yep and the Wings will have include a high pick or top prospect in order for a team to take on that cap hit. I maintain my stance: G (or Nash) are moveable if the Rangers eat some salary.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 9:51 am EST

And not an I told you so but more of a reflection of how much I hated this coach and team this season but I think I was one of the few that had the PENS in a cake walk of 5 games..And it was not the players, the talent...it was the TEAM, it was the Coach..ALL YEAR, they lacked chemistry, identity, togetherness, solid lines, solid strategy, leadership offf and on the ice and so much more that came straight form the coach....The Rangers were not a pervfect team personnel wise, but they just as good talent as nyone...and certainly the gap with PItt wasn't tralent.....The gap was EWVRYTHING THE RANGERS USED TO BE AND THE PENGUINS NOW ARE....A well coached team that plays with speed, smarts, heart and purpose..and just plays ther game...everything the Rangers used to be and that AV stripped away this year with as a hirrenodus year of coaching/leadership/motivation/personnel deploymen as i've seen in a long time..........As for next year, nothin matters if this guys Stays.....They won't develop nor win...Thyey will just be there..

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 9:35 am EST

Hey fellow Wallbangers...Wish I could have been here with ya the past week or so...RLI that ended up OK but I'm sure I would have had a stroke, hemorrage or aneurysm if I was here watching the games with y'all!... Funny thing, I turned the game on in the hospital Saturday after noon and what is one of the first words I hear???? DIAZ!! I see the score is 3-1 Penguins...catcyh a glimpse of that smug mug of the clueless AV, pens make it 4-2 and I say screw that shit...Just couldn't watch......Not for THAT COACH or for that heartless team...

Hospo


Mon Apr 25 2016 9:23 am EST

BTW: I just read Carp's blog and he brings up the same points I did yesterday and this morning. (http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/25/rangers-gm-gorton-better-be-right-about-vigneault-one-way-or-another/).

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 9:15 am EST

YORK: Not that it matters but I've coached baseball up to about 16 years old. Not a high school team but what we call Select Level (aka Elite, Premier, Travel). It is actually much more like coaching a team full of UFAs. With high school players you can bench a player. What is he going to do? The only way he can play for another high school is move, and there are eligibility restrictions if they do. We had to recruit players and retain players. You can bench kids but if you do it repeatedly they are going to leave your team and join a competitor right in the middle of the season. You also can't keep talented options waiting in the wings. If kids aren't playing their parents take them elsewhere.

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 9:13 am EST

YORK: Actually the teams that need to reach the cap floor, will look to take Datsyuk's $7.5 million cap hit, without having to actually pay him.

DOUBLEN


Mon Apr 25 2016 9:03 am EST

Vic what level have you coached at that you know the difference please enlighten me I guess I can just kick guys out of school lmao you're stuck more so in high school wanna know why because you obviously never coaches you can't trade anyone you can't draft players you have to coach to what you have.

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:59 am EST

YORK: Coaching High School level is completely different. The coach holds all the power. Coaching professional athletes is a lot different. When it comes to confrontations between coaches and players it is usually the coach that loses his job, not the player. The better the player the harder it is for the coach. And when you coach superstar professionals they have to be handled with kid gloves because the organization has way more invested in the player then the coach. I don't know if AV lost the team this year. But I can tell you he definitely would have had he taken strong handed tactics with BRASSARD, STEPAN, KREIDER, GIRARDI, BOYLE, McDONAGH, and M. STAAL. And that isn't a complete list. All of those guys deserved to be pressed boxed during the year. If AV had done that he would be gone for sure. If he had done that he would have been fired by the deadline.

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:55 am EST

There has to be someone looking to make the cap floor willing to take girardi.

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:53 am EST

Vic again I didn't ask details I asked did it cause the team togive up on chasing the cup answer no

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:53 am EST

VIC I don't know if you have coaches but I have like mentioned prior I coaches up to the high school level in two different sports you want an example I repeatedly told a player to stop what he was doing the message didn't get there between periods I told him to put his Street clothes on and join his parents in the stands boy his parents were livid I didn't care and when confronted told them as much long story short he was so embarrassed he did everything I asked of him after that and he became one of my hardest workers. It's the coaches job to set the tone and lead and make sure players are doing there job. That isn't the only time I went to those extremes but I'll tell you something my players were loyal. I see some today and we laugh and respect each other and some went on to play college and they still say I was their favorite coach to play for because I demanded the best out of them I don't get that from AV how do you get that when you aren't in the locker room

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:51 am EST

YORK: ROGER was fired because MESSIER went to management and demanded it. TORTS was fired because he refused to change his system when he was told to by SATHER in his exit interview after being ousted by BOSTON in the playoffs.

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:48 am EST

RF: I agree that AV could have done more. But what options were in Hartford? And it isn't like they were carrying a guy like BUCH or DUCLAIR as a black ace waiting to step in. Hell, GLASS was the only guy to play his way up from Hartford. And you know as well as I do that young players who are trying to make it will respond to a coach. But older players who are holding 5 or 6 year NMC contracts??? Much harder to motivate when the organization has much more invested in that player then they do the coach. If BRASSARD and STEPAN go to GORTON and say "we can't play for this guy" then the coach is gone.

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:46 am EST

To buy out Girardi it would be the following cap hit for the next 8 years.. $1.750/$2.750/$3.750/$3.750/the last 4 years are $1.250. Just way too much dead cap space.

DOUBLEN


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:46 am EST

Vic changing coaches means giving up? Fire torts gi to the cup finals fire Roger hire Keenan win a cup did they give up?

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:45 am EST

Vic: IMO, it's not realistic not to anticipate a dip before things start upwards again. I concur that the team must get younger and faster, but I think it's a FANtasy to believe it'll happen over the summer and the team will be better next year, especially if there isn't a new coach with a new vision brought in (and of course, a new coach doesn't guarantee anything). Gorton IMO needs to cut out some of the core. He needs to find a couple of high picks. It's not going to be easy. Is he up for it? Are his hands tied (by Job-for-Life)? Starting in and around the June draft, we should begin to see some of those answers....

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:41 am EST

york: I concur and with AV's hands-off style, the need for on-ice leadership becomes that much more acute.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:39 am EST

YORK: Clearly AV owns a part of what happened this year.. Where you and differ is in how much. But either way I really don't care if he is fired or not. I just think that firing him says "The run is over and these players can't win a Cup." It flies in the face of the ALL OR NOTHING moves that were made the last 3+ years. And if we are expecting these players to be better next year shouldn't we expect the coaching staff to similarly learn from their mistakes and be better next year? And shouldn't we expect GORTON to learn from his mistakes and help the team get young, faster and hungrier instead of older and slower. Shouldn't we expect GORTON to correctly identify which players are worth the month they are being paid and which aren't despite what statistics say (HAGS for example)?

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:39 am EST

Yes at any given time there were as many as 6 (or more) players going through the motions. That's because AV did nothing from the start. That behaviour becomes infectious. Surely you've played team sports in the past and recognize this? It's one of the most notorious negatives of team dynamics. And it's arguably the toughest part of being a coach - reacting to trends that if not addressed, result in negative team behaviour. A coach has 2 weapons - verbal response (be it conjoling, yelling, speeches, etc) and icetime. We've no idea if/how AV used weapon 1, but he sure didn't use weapon 2. Historically, this appears to be his style - the same pattern emerged in Vancouver. I see zero reason to believe next year will be any different. AV is AV. Yes he's a good coach, but under the right circumstances. If he stays and Gorton expects those dynamics to change, he'd better bring in some strong on ice leadership.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:37 am EST

Leadership they had cally who bled for this team while captain. He led by example and demanded the same of everyone he had help Richards. He was replaced in the locker room by msl another no nin sense guy on and off the ice and this team played like it HD also had Richards as well. You see the biggest change is all three of those guys are gone and the core is still here but none are obviously leaders (girardi McD staal). This is something that has to be addressed Eric staal wasn't the answer he seems like his brother low key. So what do you do put an ad out leader needsd? This is a serious issue wrath is a leader but when you aren't playing 2/3 of the time and you're new hard to step up.

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:35 am EST

What are the cap consequences of buying Girardi out? Any idea?

Fotiu22


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:33 am EST

Vic: Really really simple - Brassard does his lollygagging (or whatever), he sits the rest of the period. Keeps doing it, he doesn't dress. AV let the players do as they pleased. All wrong. If the players mutiny, so be it - they basically mutinied in games 4 and 5 anyways.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:30 am EST

RF: What options did AV really have? Look, you know I am with you on the McILRATH vs. BOYLE thing. From the start of the season I was saying that the Rangers should be playing McILRATH at least 1 out of every 3 games for BOYLE to keep BOYLE rested for the playoffs. I thought McILRATH would get a bunch more games due to injuries as well. I was hoping he would play 50 to 60 games this year. But as for the forwards, what options were there. How many people can you bench? Ok, so you want to bench BRASSARD. Who are you going to bump up to play in his place? LINDBERG? HAYES? At any given time this season you could have pointed to half a dozen players that could have and should have been benched. Who was going to play? Can you imagine the heads that would have exploded here if he put HAYES up on the first line an benched BRASSARD? Why? Because HAYES deserved to benched just as much as BRASSARD. And should GLASS have been playing over KREIDER for much of the season? Or ETEM over KREIDER while ETEM was still here? If this were a case of the players playing great but AV screwing them up then I could pin more blame on him. But I saw this as more a case of AV being saddled with a lot of suck this year, and he spent the entire season trying to figure out how to change it. He leaned on the veterans (as would be expected) in the hope that they were professional enough and experienced enough to find their games. They didn't. So, AV failed to get the players to turn it around this year. He owns that. But what coach can you say would have succeeded? And if you spit out a name you are just speculating and have no proof. And I know some folks will respond that they need to replace AV just to try someone else because AV failed to get them to play well. Maybe. What happens if they are worse next year? Do we admit then it wasn't the coach? How many coaches are out there that are as good or better then AV? I never loved the guy but I don't see anyone else I can say will do a better job. We can hope GERNANDER would but we don't know that for sure.

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:30 am EST

E so when do you wait to see no improvement when they are done next season and its too late and they lost the playoffs. I saw zero improvement this season from late Nov till Saturday. What I did see was a team playing a system they weren't built for (who's job is that?) A team that didn't give a 60 minute effort and a coach who stayed out of the locker room his own admission and let the players motivate themselves (isn't that his job) I see a guy that no matter how bad someone played he didn't bench them (isn't that also his job) I see failure on so many levels that fall on his shoulders. The players don't seem to be endorsing him in the media so far which to me says they are quitting on him ..... .Vic isn't the coach supposed to demand accountability? Last time I checked it is the coaches job to make sure his team is playing the way HE wants them to and if they aren't which if AVs public comments were true then he lost this team. He has a kid Hayes basixky laugh at him in the media when AV called him out publicly that was telling for me he doesn't have E much control.

York18


Mon Apr 25 2016 8:08 am EST

TD: IMO, Nash is tradeable if the Rangers eat some of his salary. Girardi, too, perhaps. And I'm serious in my thoughts about the King - Gorton should approach him about being moved. Don't ask him to accept a trade - he's too proud and competitive and has been too fabulous for the Rangers. Instead, quietly approach him and say something like 'a retool is in order and we may dip a bit before we start another upswing - do you want me to explore a trade and if so, to who?'. That's what I'd do. Then again, I'd have brought a cup to NY already....

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:59 am EST

tdchi - I hope you're right about Tampa Bay - that Islander fan base is classless and it would make me sick to see them celebrate after all the sh1t they spew. I didnt realize how much I wouldnt be able to handle this.

DREW


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:56 am EST

Some retrospective thoughts in no specific order: Y'all can blame the coach/coach's relationship with his players all ya' want. When it comes down to it, the Rangers, as a team, were lacking in one crucial area --fortitude --and no amount of coaching was going to push them beyond the finish line. My hopes was that they'd wake up and smell the posts-season. But they slept-walked through four of five games. Even worse --and perhaps most importantly --they seemed to give up almost immediately after the Pens either scored the GTG or GWG. That second period meltdown on Saturday was the season summed up in 20 minutes. And there was no coaching move that was gonna prevent that...when Tortorella was coach, you could tell it was a case of jockey and overbeaten horse...the guy's gameplan was just awful to boot. The problem with AV is less his system and more the players within it...All that said, I don't believe for one second that AV is even on a warm seat, much less a hot one. But I will say I don't expect to see a a number of faces on the bench when the season starts in six months. Gorton is going to retool this lineup...no doubt in my mind. And I have a feeling we're going to see a number of big deals on draft day. I suspect we'll see them push into the first round with one of them...unfortunately, the guy they REALLY need to trade I believe will be untradeable, and that's Rick NASH. If there is a single player who encapsulated the season it's him...bloated contract, good at times, but mostly invisible with the heat turned up. I don't know how you can trade a player like that, especially with two years left on his contract and a NTC...but he's the elephant in the room, no doubt...The Rangers needed big games from LUNDQVIST and NASH and got neither...Lundqvist, as horrible as he was, gets somewhat of a pass as he can at least point to a record of accomplishment...Nash? Nope. That's $7.8 million devoted to a player that put up his fourth consecutive no-show in the playoffs. And I know someone is going to say 'but he had four points in five games' or something like that...well again, if you're expected to be the best, then four points in five games isn't good enough...Next up: BRASSARD. He's the other guy I don't see back here next season. We needed him to step up and be the top-line center many think he is. He did not...Though he too has an NTC...and the defense...I see YANDLE being traded...or at least his rights. No way they bring him back with SJKEI ready to play. And I think Dom MOORE, STALBERG and GLASS have all seen their last games as Rangers.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:51 am EST

And please keep in mind I'm not laying all the blame at AV's feet. Everyone's culpable, including the players. But the continual lack of effort, the breakdowns all over the ice start with the coach. His job, among other things, is to make players accountable and he clearly did not do that, save for the easy targets, like McI, Lindberg, Glass and to a lesser extent, Hayes. No one else.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:45 am EST

And when you have a McI in the pressbox and a Boyle and a Girardi clearly struggling on the ice game in and game out (and you've asked you team - allegedly - to play more physical) what would you do?

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:44 am EST

Vic: So tell me, if you're the coach and you watch Brassard lollygag his way back on a backcheck and/or stand there and let his man take the puck and score (over and over and over again) what would you do?

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:43 am EST

Vic: Then why in the hell didn't AV start responding to his players not doing as he asked. Asking your charges to do something and when they don't ask again and when they don't ask again and when they don't ask again and when they don't ask again and when they don't ask again. Kinda asinine, no? The man clearly lost the team and for whatever reason, refused to react when his players didn't do as he asked.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:40 am EST

RF: Like I said, I have a hard time believing that the problem is that AV lost the team. I think the Rangers lack real leadership in the locker room and on the ice. A leader who demands accountability from his teammates. I think they have too many players who think pass first. I think they lack the talent to play possession hockey and they lack the players to play a dump and chase game. They were on the right path in terms of building a young team built around speed but have gone in the wrong direction with the trades of the last 3 to 5 years. They got older and slower with just about every one of those deals. All of that, coupled with the mental and physical fatigue of all of the extra games these last 3 years, contributed to what we saw this year. This is now a "tweener" team with no real identity. Does AV own part of that? Yes, I think he does. But management and the players themselves own an equal share if not more.

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:28 am EST

E: I see the AV situation the same way. AV publicly wanted them to play physically. AV publicly wanted them to simplify their game and shoot more (especially on the PP). AV talked all season about the coverage issues and getting them fixed. And I believe that AV put DIAZ in the lineup for the last game simply because they refused to shoot. Say what you will about DIAZ (and I have), but he shot the puck almost every time he touched it on the PP and the PP was much better for it. So, here is the question. Has AV lost the team? Are they simply refusing to do what AV and the coaching staff want them to do? If so, why? Why would they undermine AV, who is very much a player's coach? I can see the team wanting to undermine a complete prick like TORTS. That is why I have trouble buying that argument. Instead, I think there are many reasons why this season happened. AV shares the blame in this season for some of the poor decisions he made but most of what happened on the ice I lay at the player's feet.

Vic


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:25 am EST

E: You don't believe, after this debacle, that the AV hasn;t lost the team? How else can you explain the continual off nights by just about every player on this team? It started game 1 of the regular season and carried over into the POs. And you think they improved this year? Really? REALLY???

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 7:23 am EST

TD: The pick was lottery protected - that was it. When they made the POs, it was automatically transferred to the Coyotes. With 2 2nds gone to Carolina for Staal, it means nothing at this time until the 17th pick into the 3rd round, with is 77th. Nice, eh? The feeder system is already thin - unless Gorton lands a pick or 3 this only worsens the situation. Considerably.

RF4L


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:53 am EST

RF4L - I thought there was a way they could defer the pick to 2017. If not, then that is indeed a bummer. The Rangers have about $9 million to play with. I don't see YANDLE taking any sort of pay cut that would bring his salary into cap-friendly range. Only way I see him starting with us next season is if we trade NASH...in a side note, I was getting excited all season about the prospect of that slug being a UFA after next season when I realized he's got another TWO on his contract. You want to talk about bad deals, that is one that keeps getting worse and worse as time goes on.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:45 am EST

DREW - Not sure how many Lightning games you've watched, but they haven't skipped a beat without STAMKOS. Actually, it's scary how good they are without their top player AND STRALMAN. Much to my chagrin, DROUIN stepped into Stamkos' shoes and they've been every bit as dominant as they were last year when they bounced us. I'd be very surprised if the Isles beat Tampa. It's gonna be a good series, but the Isles just aren't as good a team...also, remember a lot of pundits and fans alike questioned Capuano for tanking the last game of the season by essentially starting a minor-league team. Had they won that game or the Rangers lost their last game against Detroit, it would have been the Rangers facing the Panthers, whom just about everyone believed to be the weaker opponent. Though the Rangers sucked so unbelievably bad, I don't think they would have beaten anyone.

tdchi


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:30 am EST

E fishboy doesn't have many choices except to start with a new coach, then make personnel decisions. This team under-performed most of the year and still had 100+ points. This coach played guys hurt or rushed them back during the year, like regular season games are playoff games. He never found set lines and d pairs, for units of 5 with chemistry. Playing big mac in less than 40 games while Girardi was hurt, Boyle not needing to play everyday, and Klein never given a day off, makes little sense over 82 games. One thing for sure, he's not a good playoff coach. This team went down 3-1 three years in a row, and only survived that twice.

stevielegs


Mon Apr 25 2016 6:16 am EST

E...I havent a clue whether AV likes Dylan or not, but 36 games played during an 82 game system is not really good development. Not so much the number, but how it was implemented. If Dylan, with the coaches understanding that it is counter productive for a student to sit inactive for long periods of time, was given every other game - which wouldve amounted to pretty much the same number, this wouldve been more beneficial to his development. With Brady coming in for the playoffs...I too felt there is something in Dylans play coach is not comfortable with. Playing Diaz over him was a head scratcher.

WIOSA


Mon Apr 25 2016 12:32 am EST

NYR prospect news..... http://blueshirtbulletin.com/news/mantha-the-man/ .....http://blueshirtbulletin.com/news/half-full-night/

Rhet0ric


Sun Apr 24 2016 11:53 pm EST

IMO, What would help Buchnevich;s development is a fellow Russian player on the team. He doesn't speak much English yet. I think Hrivek get's a real shot at making it next season, Nicklas Jensen also has an outside shot at making the team and maybe Magnus Hellberg as Hank's backup(depending how much $$$ Raanta is looking for). Igor Shesterkin also looks to be maybe 2 seasons away. The only real safe bets look like Skjei, McIlrath Lindberg and maybe Buch ....DREW... The better teams are in the Metro division, that's when we'll see just how good they are. Islander fans have been talking a lot of smack already. They seem more focused on the NYR's than anything else.(at least we didn't get eliminated by them:)

Rhet0ric


Sun Apr 24 2016 11:42 pm EST

12:40 am local time and I can't sleep bc of the islanders. I'm so nervous they are winning the cup. How's TB going to beat them? Wasn't Florida better?

DREW


Sun Apr 24 2016 11:09 pm EST

And the problem with the farm is this: what is left down there worth bringing up? Skjei is clearly here to stay. McIlrath would have to be the next best D prospect in the organization. There is Buchnevich but after the Kreider, Miller treatment I cannot see him thrive my under this coach. Not for a couple years anyway. Is there anyone else in Hartford worth a look? Please don't tell me Jayson Megna.

Bob


Sun Apr 24 2016 11:00 pm EST

I think they need to scrap this idiotic man to man system that has defensemen chasing guys out to the blue line and an endless parade of uncontested goals in front of the goalies. The Rangers D cannot handle it.

Bob


Sun Apr 24 2016 10:26 pm EST

Stevie: that's just it. I see the Mcilrath thing as an insignificant issue. Completely. My issue is the way they wanna play and the way they are built to play. But here is what really twists the nipple. Barring anything unforeseen going on behind closed doors between the coach and the players that really shows a disconnect I don't want AV fired. I believe that there is tremendous value in continuity and unless a coach has lost his team, or the team is showing no signs of improvement I don't make a change. For better of for worse, AV is the guy. For now at least. I wouldn't expect the NYR be rebuilt either. They are gonna retool and they are gonna look to do that on the fly and get that team back to contention. I hope it ain't shortcuts like sacrificing whatever paltry assets they have left.

E


Sun Apr 24 2016 10:12 pm EST

Worst weekend ever, they'll beat the lightning in 5. So much for no cup with Greiss.

DREW


Sun Apr 24 2016 10:08 pm EST

How bout them Islanders? Good for them.

mf


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:45 pm EST

E Big Mac has become somewhat a symbol of the anti veenyo campaign. He's small potatoes in this issue . There's a lot more wrong with veenyo than his decisions on Big Mac .

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:28 pm EST

It's the entrenchment that I don't get here. You're either all in on McIlrath or your not. I know what kind of team I advocate for. And definitely I think McIlrath can play in the NHL but when I see all this: AV hates him. McIlrath needs big minutes. He's the answer to all. Or whatever else. He's an intriguing talent. Big guy who can play and not be a liability. So we'll see. I think any of the absurdity that circles this guy is pure conjecture. I think he is very much in the teams plans going forward. But I've just seen this record spinning again and again. Impatient fans who with their scouts eye have determined that a guy is ready. So we'll see. Fall is for development. If McIlrath is relegated to not dressing next season I think the argument that AV hates him or whatever else begins to gain validity. But this season? Had he not had the unique situation he'd be shuttled up and down to get ice time. But they couldn't so he was there waiting his turn. So we'll see... That's all I'm saying. But what I'm also saying is that everyone has an opinion on what goes on in the locker room. Chris Krieder is neutered by AV type of stuff. Chris Krieder spent a game throwing his weight around to the tune of a New York Rangers team that landed over 50-hits. What does the ever weak coach do? Contends to the media that the type of physicality on display was precisely the tonic the New York Rangers needed to win. So much for the neutered theory. Sometimes things gain traction that are just pure fantasy and have no basis in reality. I'll tell you why Chris Krieder can play soft. A. He has a reputation for some nasty play and I'm sure he gets warned by the refs. Probably unfairly. B. He is an inconsistent and streaky hockey player. And neither is the fault of the coach.

E


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:22 pm EST

Rd4l if fishboy does and Sather doesn't , then Hank might be the tie breaker.

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:19 pm EST

stevie: Suspect if Sather doesn't want AV fired, he won't be. And remember, Sather SUCKS!

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:13 pm EST

VCP: McIlrath is gonna be a Chara? Seriously? Prepare to be disappointed. I think Matt Greene is a little closer to reality.

E


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:12 pm EST

In sure fishboy has to make a decision on the coach but that's not going to be leaked if he's getting fired. Even I think that would be disrespecting veenyo , unless he's knows before it's leaked. Supposedly the exit meetings haven't even been scheduled yet. But you can bet the genius and the fishboy are talking, probably a lot. The goal got further away instead of being achieved . And it cost jimmyboy big money getting eliminated . He only saw 2 games $ , he can't be happy about that . Especially since there's nothing from his knick gm.

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:54 pm EST

E skeij has more upside from an offensive aspect but wrath is the very type of player you say you want this team built around which I just don't get. I'd also gonas far to say give the kid PP time and his numbers will jump he has a hard slapper thag he gets on net and get a couple guys who will go to the net and he will get assists. He is a 3-6 dman pairing and when on a 2 but he's an NHL player who played better all season than both g and Boyle and this Diaz bullshit the guy SUCKS and he was coming in to save the day a fucking ahl lifer? If that's what AV was counted in this ass clown needs to be fired yesterday

York18


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:50 pm EST

BTW, if memory serves me correctly LB was saying the same thing about Tortorella 3 years ago and he got fired. That's just him speculating, as the rest of us are, seeing as Ranger management, because Sather got burned/roasted/ripped by the Canadian media when he made the Rangers the laughing stock of NA pro sports in the early 2000s, are afraid of showing their incompetent faces to the media and therefore, say nothing. BTW, Sather SUCKS!

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:45 pm EST

Chara yes HOF = True but he didn't start off the way he had trouble skating, Mclrath by the way has the hardest shot on the team. Not saying he is the next bobby Orr, but he is better than girardi, boyle right now.

vcp1994


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:43 pm EST

If AV's back, McI shouldn't be and the Rangers, I hope, finish last next year and then AV AND Gorton are canned. I'll be rooting for that (because AV will NOT change).

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:42 pm EST

Yep maybe McI is a 5/6 d-man but he's better than Boyle and never got to play over him and really better than Girardi on most nights this season. And he brings to the table something no other Ranger d-man even remotely comes close to.

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:41 pm EST

McIlrath isn't a great talent but he could be Chara someday? Chara is a first ballot HOF player. I hope he is half of what Chara has been

RDW


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:27 pm EST

The 1 game they won I meant to say keyboard sticking. even the players have said they like him in the lineup. Good-bye Rangers if AV stays as if they care anyway

vcp1994


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:25 pm EST

E mclrath is not a great talent , he could be a future chara one day. clearly the rangers play tougher when he is in the lineup. The one game they one he happened to be playing. Are you a dummy??

vcp1994


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:08 pm EST

Leo: AV dressed Diaz because he tried to jumpstart the PP. something that was sagging badly and what the New York Rangers needed to ignite to get back in it. Desperate times. Didn't like the move myself but I also don't think AV would've been able to beat this team back to life. By and large I don't think AV had an inability to inspire issue. I just don't think the New York Rangers played with desperation. They were well resided to their fate as losers. And I think the post interviews reflected that. Just was gonna be a bad year no matter what. If you didn't feel that in February then I don't know what to tell anyone. Just time to use the wipes, flush, and regroup.

E


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:01 pm EST

I will hold the tongue till next season re: McIlrath. However, I've always found it interesting how much fans want this guy as if he is the marquee talent. I get the reasons why but frankly I've always had more excitement about Skjei. And in his few game sample it looks like there is good reason for that. Y'all might be right re: McIlrath and I've heard all the arguments but I see the guy right now as a 5-6 defenseman. Maybe more. Skjei has 1st pairing, big minute potential.

E


Sun Apr 24 2016 7:14 pm EST

IF AV stays its good bye Rangers for me see you in Heaven

vcp1994


Sun Apr 24 2016 7:06 pm EST

Of course, that is pre-exit interviews.

Rhet0ric


Sun Apr 24 2016 7:02 pm EST

Larry Brooks reports that the Rangers have no plans to dismiss Alain Vigneault as head coach. (NY Post) He writes that there is no indication from "anyone who counts" that the Rangers hold Vigneault responsible for the "disappointing finish or the difficult season that preceded it." (NY Post) Brooks writes that Vigneault will need to change his approach next season and become more "emotionally engaged" and become more of a motivating factor as it's like he will "have a younger group to coach." (NY Post) Vigneault will enter into the fourth-year of a reported five-year deal that he signed when the Rangers hired him.

Rhet0ric


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:12 pm EST

https://www.nhl.com/news/new-york-rangers-eliminated-from-playoffs-by-penguins/c-280453690?tid=280160686

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 5:58 pm EST

I will add, I'm shocked he actually sat Boyle last game. I thought it was Respect Your Vets über alles.

LeoS


Sun Apr 24 2016 5:56 pm EST

Sorry, E, but York nailed it. AV was almost Cooperesque in smarminess during the season at times when asked about in playing McI and getting Boyle some rest (say, in some back to backs) and he'd deflect by saying well we're winning so I didn't want to change anything...so now that philosophy is invalid in the plsyoffs, after we play our most physical and one of our most complete games of the year?

LeoS


Sun Apr 24 2016 5:03 pm EST

Coach Alain Vigneault: “This is a team game. I don’t want to single out one performer or one individual. We came into this as a team trying to win the Stanley Cup and we lost in the first round so it’s disappointing now….The goal of this team is to win the Cup. We didn’t do that. It’s real disappointing. I’ll tell you right now, there’s disappointment throughout management, coaches and players. There’s no doubt. And the Rangers’ fans.”

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 3:54 pm EST

rf4l they got yandle for that, but at half his salary. If they resign him at a decent number , it might be worth it. the rest I'll leave unsaid on ifs and buts.....because it didn't happen as it didn't with MSL.....and a long line of others over the 75 years except for 1 .

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 3:52 pm EST

And the POs only further emphasized this. McI was in for a game and did well and the team did well. Then back to the pressbox he goes and down the tube goes the team. AV's a jerk and I hope he's fired. If he's not, McI should quietly ask for a trade (and then come back to NY and pound a bunch of pacifist Rangers).

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 3:49 pm EST

E: I've been arguing the dislike case for over a year now and stand by my belief here. It started last year when the Rangers had 2 regulars out and both McI and Kostagoal were recalled and played for a couple of games. Then one of the injured d-man came back and despite the fact that he was 1) horrible 2) a AHL lifer and 3) nearly 30, AV kept Kostagoal in the lineup. Inexplicable. McI fought and AV went out of his way NOT to praise him. This year, McI sat endlessly in the pressbox despite continual shoddy play from Boyle and Girardi. It was so clear AV did NOT want to dress McI. The comparison to Miller and Kreider aren't valid because both, if not playing, could be and were sent to the AHL. Sitting endlessly in the pressbox, potentially retarding the player's development (because he cannot play anywhere else) when 2 veterans are sucking (and the team isn't playing well AND the kid played well when the coach had no choice but to play him due to injuries) is a clear indication of the coach not liking the kid.

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 3:42 pm EST

BTW, with the Rangers being the 3rd team eliminated from the POs, it means Phoenix will get the 17th overall selection. What a bad trade - Anthony Duclair and the 17th overall pick for Yandle-way. Geesh. Sather SUCKS!

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 3:41 pm EST

NN: I think you challenged my musings on Dallas being possibly the best location for the King - guess what? Their goalies were 22 overall in save percentage during the regular season.

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 3:18 pm EST

Ok...I was roped in again by 27 disguised as number 20, should've known better. Krieder, IMHO. is far from untouchable. Move him now...... NN, watching t he Cap game, was amused to see them miss the Philly EN twice. Guess we're not alone in that category (thank the hockey gods)

WIOSA


Sun Apr 24 2016 3:12 pm EST

OMG Stevie....don't even mention the depression years. Potvin still sucks.

WIOSA


Sun Apr 24 2016 2:42 pm EST

Wiosa back in 79 I would watch both ny teams on ch9. But I had to root for 1 to beat the other. Then the 80's came, that was a nightmare.

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 2:41 pm EST

E where there's smoke there is fire you want to say there's no proof put enough straws together you get a broom well the strass are there.

York18


Sun Apr 24 2016 2:40 pm EST

E I guess the article about AV picking guys and disliking them was a lie? You want eveidencd he doesn't like him oh I don't know these playoffs he played him they won he sits him they lose instead of reinserting him he plays Diaz a guy who did nothing to earn a call up other than being AVs boy.

York18


Sun Apr 24 2016 2:37 pm EST

The only players I don't want to see go are wrath skeij Klein. Kreider zuch anyone else can be moved from the current roster and be replaced IMO.

York18


Sun Apr 24 2016 2:37 pm EST

Where is this proof that McIlrath is disliked by AV? It's this weird paranoia that New York Rangers fans have with young players. I could take this same argument and roll it back a year or so ago with JT. And Chris Krieder before that. I don't see the historical precedent. He's a young hockey player who by the circumstance of a serious knee injury has a developmental setback and an inability to move him up and down from Hartford saw him have limited ice time. And for all the gushing on Skjei he also is likely to have his rough nights and we'll be pissing and moaning about how the coach hates him. And Buch and forever more.

E


Sun Apr 24 2016 2:21 pm EST

Drew...Im with u..I wont sleep till Brooklyn's eliminated. I have nightmares of them and the cup going down the 'canyon of hero's' being cheered on by their 25 fans.....oh the horror. Right now I want to cheer for Haggy, but I cant stand Crosby. So I guess I want the Caps...Ovi is overdue

WIOSA


Sun Apr 24 2016 2:05 pm EST

mine will be the craps beating the pigpens, then the craps losing after that.

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 1:59 pm EST

My consolation will be an elimination of the Islanders which looks like wont happen until rd 3 the earliest. Griess looks unreal. They play an undermanned Tampa Bay team.

DREW


Sun Apr 24 2016 1:56 pm EST

Once again I have to settle for the Consolation Cup...when the Flyers are eliminated from the playoffs...hoorah for me!

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 1:52 pm EST

KIS: re your post from 10:55..... Nash's stock can go lower too... Here's my take on Nash which is a culmination of what's already been said, and with an mf twist.... 1) He is currently healthy, with his history let's not take that for granted when considering a return on trade.. 2) His cap hit is $7.8mill p/y with 2 yrs remaining. He has not fulfilled the role he was brought here for...........3) we are desperately in need of Cap Space...... Conclusion: He has got to be traded.... jmon

mf


Sun Apr 24 2016 1:51 pm EST

Watching a very physical game Philly v Wash. Philly, a rebuilding team, kept ovi, Beagel, Oshi, and Backstrom to 1 goal. Still put tons of scoring chances on Holtby. Pas coach kept their D playing defense until late in the third, then had them join the rush. Really an exciting game despite only 1 goal scored. They played their hearts out. Hate Philly... But have to tip my hat to their effort

WIOSA


Sun Apr 24 2016 1:36 pm EST

Another thing to prepare for in a roster overhaul is parting with players that we may want to keep. No one wants our garbage but we may have to throw in a player we like in some potential deals.

DREW


Sun Apr 24 2016 12:43 pm EST

Goodbye A-Vishysoisse...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjGHwGkFIFw

mf


Sun Apr 24 2016 12:34 pm EST

The dickaletti curse saying 72 saves in a row by cryer goalie . 5-10 seconds later he gives up a goal.... At least that pos is consistent ...

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 12:22 pm EST

York I'm not so sure about Capt fugitive on that. The guy says nothing about himself . He just did a veenyo . At least Hank talked about himself .

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 12:08 pm EST

Stevie read between the lines hank McD brassard are all throwing AV under the bus in their comments. No player just outs a coach even messier didn't do that with poor Roger who he got fired

York18


Sun Apr 24 2016 11:21 am EST

York who are the 3 players you are talking about ?

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 10:55 am EST

Boy am I glad many of you aren't in power as GM or President. The team made the playoffs, they finished 9th over all. Many teams would love to be in that position. They have had a fantastic run over the last 4/5 years. They need some tweaking not a complete blow up. The first thing I do is get rid of the coach. He has proven that he can only get so far. He has great aspects about him. Leadership and getting the time to the winning level isn't one of them . He is also to passive and makes his team passive. We have seen what he does to Kreider an the lack of interest in Mcilrath. A perfect example about him being passive might have been in the game a the garden when kunitz whacked Staal and knocked the goal of the pegs started skating the Box only to be told by the official there was no penalty. AV should have lost his mind. Sticks water bottles everything should have gone over the boards. One it would have obviously gotten the attention of the officials and two it would have gotten the attention of his players. Wow the guy is being us. That is being a leader instead we saw the Fucking tool just chewing his gum. That pissed me the fuck off. Hank was shot. I have always said he is the best Ranger Player but you don't need a goalie that consumes 9 million in salary to win. Now the team may be stuck. Nash, I would not trade him during the summer unless you can get something amazing for him. He is like a stock, he is down right now. According to York, the guy has a good season a bad song. Next year should be a good season trade him during the season, not now. Pick either Brass or Stepan. you can't have both. I would take Step because he is better in all three zones and makes a good second line center. See ho hayes does next year with a new coach somebody that will hold him accountable. If he is still lazy one him at the deadline. I think MCD will be better with a full year of rest. The big thing with MCD is he is being asked to do to much. He plays regular PP and PK. Thats to much he doesn't need o be on for PP. He really is a stay at home Dmen that has some offensive game. He is not a great two way Dman. When he is asked to do that his play suffers. Good luck moving 5. Let Yandel go, you can't pay him 6 or 7 mill for 5 years. He is 29, you will be shouting trade him in year 3 of the contract. Makes to much money sucks in the defensive zone he is old. Go into next year with McD and Skjei maybe Staal. The other side may have to be 5 Klein and Mcilrath. Just because you say 5 needs to be traded doesn't mean other teams will want him Remember they aren't stupid other teams have eyes as well. they will laugh when the rangers say they want a player and a draft pick for him. Other organizations will laugh and say wee see he is slow and physically beaten. The team isn't far from being a contender and a good team but they aren't far from being a shit team for a while to come. Cant have knee jerk management and moves. Lets start by getting rid of the coach first.

KIS


Sun Apr 24 2016 10:55 am EST

Vcp Gabby was good not sure what you're talking about left here and was a huge part of winning the cup in LA

York18


Sun Apr 24 2016 10:54 am EST

VIC couldn't disagree more as usual you're wrong on so many accounts first the ranger are owned by a major Corp dolans Corp is a major Corp. Second he does nothing with this team since his debacle with checjettes back in the day and when he demanded colton orr play to protect players. Sather has full run and if AV stays has nothing to do with Dolan. .........that's three players who are quietly blaming AV without calling him out directly closing day will be when the players toss his ass into the fire..........RF you give Hayes another season HD will be worthless he can fetch you something now you give him another year like this and he's going to fetch you an ahl player............gernander is someone I respect very much he wasn't just a player he was someone I spoke to often and became friends with. There is no one I'd rather see more than Ken get the job he has done so much with so little in Hartford and developed a lot of players over the years. With that said he's not a miracle worker. This team is not a coach away from winning the cup he will be a big piece of the puzzle that's for sure. He will be good to bring a younger club along and beuk would be good to run the D they would certainly know how to use skeij and wrath.

York18


Sun Apr 24 2016 10:39 am EST

Garden is always filled = people = fans = assholes

vcp1994


Sun Apr 24 2016 10:38 am EST

lets sign boyle for 4.5 million get rid of stralman = sather = asshole

vcp1994


Sun Apr 24 2016 10:37 am EST

Gomez= Gaborick= Nash = Sather = Asshole

vcp1994


Sun Apr 24 2016 10:33 am EST

Lowe, trottier, torts now AV = Sather horrible Need a first line center Stephan isn't a first line center. Hoe come we all know this but Rangers management doesn't? Are they really that fucking stupid. That is just the beginning. Dan Boyle =awful = sather . on and on and on sick of this shit

vcp1994


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:51 am EST

"Change can happen"...yes but it starts with good management...something we sorely lack right now...Veengottago is a good start!

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:49 am EST

Tarasenko giving it to Hitchcock at the end of the 2nd period last night over PP time (or lack thereof) as he left the bench. LOL...funny.

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:48 am EST

happy to see some more bus people on veenyo, ex-capt mcd, and promoting gernander and buek....that would be a good starting point for fishboy.....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:47 am EST

BTW, Nashville struggling to score. Stepan (or Brassard) would be a nice fit there, lining up as a true 2nd line center (behind Johansen). Do it Gorton!

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:41 am EST

Dunno if they'll win game 7 but man oh man, do they do things right in Chicago or what? Incredible. I am soooooo envious.

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:40 am EST

For those who think you can not turn over half the team in a years time.... Look at the Pens playoff roster last year compared to this year. ONLY 7 NAMES ARE ON BOTH ROSTERS. Change can happen.

NYStranger


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:36 am EST

I can't take credit for finding the article. Carp posted it on his twitter feed. I just thought everyone here should see it.

NYStranger


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:32 am EST

BTW, if Gorton does the right thing and AV is let go, I don't want to see either Kreider or Hayes moved. I want to see what Kreider is like under a coach who doesn't reign in his aggressiveness. To me in the Pen series he was easily the most consistently aggressive Ranger to the point where he was quick to engage in scrums. He's scary I think when he's like that. How good would he be if he's given more room to utilize that aspect of his game and personality? With Hayes, I think most of us concur he's very talented - lots of raw skill but lazy and/or not competitive enough. Under a different coach that could change - how good would Hayes be if he played with a little more fire and urgency? I'd hate to see him moved and watch him blossom under a different coach. If he's still the same next year (with a new coach) then you move him IMO.

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:28 am EST

Vic: And yes, it's highly unlikely there's anything Gorton can do to make this team better next year. What he can do however, is make this team more competitive and by that I mean simply compete harder. That starts with a new fresh voice behind the bench who comes with a new vision and philosophy.

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:24 am EST

Vic: That's misleading. Vancouver fired AV but didn't start their retool in large part because of the Sedins. They tried to keep things going and that, obviously, has failed. The Sedins are still there and they remain somewhat in limbo. This is why I've been saying for the past several weeks that Gorton needs to cut into the core. Tinkering is NOT what's required and that's for the most part what the Canucks did after AV was canned. Hell, they went out and signed a 30+ Ryan MIller to a fat contract after AV was gone. Silly move.

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:19 am EST

Vic – while you can make that “argument” it’s more about the pattern (definition of insanity)…same modus operandi… different players…same (non) results…the team has regressed each year since the finals (this year embarrassingly so)…Because of the toxic environment that has resulted we may never really know the abilities/capabilities of guys that we are now clamoring to throw out with the bath water...Easier to cut off the head of the snake than hope that if you leave it alone it won't bite you...In my book it’s time for this experiment to be done.

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:14 am EST

NYStranger - thanks for that article!

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:06 am EST

to be fair ... NYStranger posted the link to that article...I only felt the detail was so telling we needed to see it in front of our eyes.

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:05 am EST

And I know it is beat on AV day (or month, or year) but I wanted to ask a question and get some honest answers in return. I'm not trying to play Gotcha. Is Vancouver better off after having fired AV? That article about AV sounds really familiar to the Rangers, no question about it. But, since AV was fired Vancouver has been worse, not better. And lets look at the comments about how KASSIAN and HODGESON never developed under AV. Well, those guys never developed, period. They were both terrifically talented young players that have been overwhelmingly unimpressive everywhere they have been. You could argue that both were never better then when they played for AV. Again, I'm not against firing AV. I just want to be realistic about what this team is and isn't. This isn't a Cup caliber team. It wasn't this year and it won't be moving forward. Changing the coach isn't going to change that in and of itself. Changing a good portion of the team might but I don't see how you can go from where the Rangers are right now and somehow go to overnight having a roster filled with young fast super-talented players who are nearing the peak of their career. That is a transformation that takes years.

Vic


Sun Apr 24 2016 9:00 am EST

I'm hoping Gorton recognizes what many of us do (that keeping AV means hell next year) and will fire AV ultimately to save his own ass. I guess it really hinges on what the job for life prick thinks. If he wants AV to stay, you know he'll stay.

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:57 am EST

That article RF posted is a beauty. I said last fall when this crap started that what were seeing reminded me very much of the criticism coming out of Vancouver during AV's last year or so. My God, if Gorton doesn't have the gonads and foresight to fire this guy, it'll be hell next year and if that happens, I hope Gorton AND AV get canned next year.

RF4L


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:54 am EST

I would have no problem with Gernander getting a shot at coaching this club. He has been a loyal soldier, and while the Wolf Pack have not been very good, he has not had much to work with and the players that have come up through there have done well for the most part in NY.

Bob


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:53 am EST

NYSTRANGER: But here is the reality. SATHER will still be here in September. GORTON will still be here in September. And most likely, AV will still be here in September. I say that because DOLAN is running the show and the only thing DOLAN will be upset about is the lack of additional playoff revenue this year like he has had over the last few years. So if you are really looking for culture change it will not happen until somebody else owns the team. A lot of folks knock big companies but this team and organization was never better then when owned by Paramount/Viacom. They ran the organization first class from top to bottom and they ran it to win.

Vic


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:52 am EST

Brassard gives AV a ringing vote of confidence: “We didn’t have any answers for anything,” Brassard said.

Punchrolfe


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:40 am EST

I personaly hope Gorton gets fired along with everyone else. Sather finally retires and a totally new regime takes over without any Genius oversight. Then finally we can see a new direction without the rotten roots that have dated back to 1998 or so.

NYStranger


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:37 am EST

McD should be shopped....He has been a shell of his former self since the shoulder injuries. The 'C' has not helped either. He has been a poor Captain at best. A big problem with our D is they seem to have no strength. No ability to clear the crease. Not because it is not in their nature, although that is a big problem as well, but they seem to genuinely lack the physical strength to move the other teams players. Also They all seem to lack the ability to shoot the puck hard. Another sign of weekness. Bad shpulders? Other than Klein and McIlwrath, who can shoot the puck hard? McD, Staal and G have been really banged up through the years and it really shows. Neither G or Staal should have been resigned to those long contracts, their best hockey was already behind them. Now look at the situation. Albatros contracts on top of Albatros contracts on top of NMClauses! If we stink it up for 5 years how many top 5 overall picks do you think we will get? Answer: 0

NYStranger


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:32 am EST

Can't wait to see how creative Gorton can be trying to turn our crap into picks to get back what he gave away for nothing in return. IMO both Staal brothers can go; Nash to anyone for a bag of pucks, buyout Girardi; Hayes packaged out; Boyle don't let door hit you; Moore it's been real, thanks; if we get a great return I would consider getting rid of McD; Veeno has worn out his welcome, he proved he is a 3 yr only coach and lost this team. The way this team played, Hank didn't have a shot and I have no problem with him ripping this team, he is right. Now as fans it's our fun time watching and discussing what moves are made, but as Ranger fans it never seems to work out. 76 years and 1 Cup what a disgrace...

Steve443c10


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:26 am EST

Kenneth Robert Gernander (born June 30, 1969) is an American former ice hockey player and currently head coach for the Hartford Wolf Pack in the AHL. Born in Coleraine, Minnesota, he played for the University of Minnesota for four years and was drafted by the Winnipeg Jets in the fifth round of the 1987 NHL Entry Draft. Gernander played 14 professional seasons, the last 11 in the New York Rangers organization with their AHL affiliates in Binghamton (1994–97) and Hartford (1997–2005). He served as team captain for 10 years and led the Wolf Pack to a Calder Cup championship in 2000. He is the Wolf Pack's all-time franchise record-holder in games played (599) and playoff games played (78). Gernander also ranks second all-time in goals (160), assists (187) and points (347) in Hartford franchise history. Despite these accomplishments, Gernander was rarely called up to play for the Rangers; he appeared in only 27 NHL games over the course of his career. Gernander retired after the 2004–05 season. He is the AHL's all-time leader with 123 career playoff games played and is the league's all-time leading scorer among American-born players with 624 points in 973 games. After his retirement, Gernander spent two seasons as Hartford's assistant coach. On July 23, 2007, the Wolf Pack announced that Gernander would replace Jim Schoenfeld as head coach. Schoenfeld had been promoted to assistant general manager of the New York Rangers. Gernander's number 12 is the only number retired by the Wolf Pack. It was retired on October 8, 2005.

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:18 am EST

It's time to give Ken Gernander a shot at NHL coaching. He's been a good soldier with this franchise for so many years. He's been a very good coach for Hartford and has helped to develop many players who played important roles for the Rangers this year. He seems a logical choice if Gorton decides to part ways with Vigneault (which, after the past two games really needs to happen). This team will inevitably get younger over the offseason and it may be time for a coach who has experience working with young players. I'd love to see Gernander and Beukeboom get their shot in NY.

evets1980


Sun Apr 24 2016 8:09 am EST

2 of our most fun or surprising seasons came when the Rangers did not have an official captain. 2005-06 off the lockout when we were supposed to be dead last and 2014 run post Callahan trade.

DREW


Sun Apr 24 2016 7:51 am EST

McDonagh has never been the same ‘person” since donning the C … Hell, he's only 26 years old (and that may be part of the problem) but McDonagh makes the Brian Leetch captaincy look good and in my mind Leetch was the worst captain in my 50 year history of the Rangers....Look at this list: Ryan McDonagh Oct. 6, 2014 to present; Ryan Callahan Sept. 12, 2011 to Mar. 5, 2014; Chris Drury Oct. 3, 2008 to June 29, 2011; Jaromir Jagr Oct. 5, 2006 to May 4, 2008; Mark Messier Jul. 13, 2000 to Apr. 3, 2004; Brian Leetch Oct. 3, 1997 to July 12, 2000; Mark Messier Oct. 7, 1991 to May 25, 1997; Kelly Kisio Dec. 24, 1987 to May 30, 1991; Ron Greschner Oct. 9, 1986 to Dec. 3, 1987; Barry Beck Feb. 4, 1981 to May 9, 1986; Walt Tkaczuk Dec. 7, 1980 to Feb. 3, 1981; Dave Maloney Oct. 11, 1978 to Dec. 6, 1980; Phil Esposito Nov. 12, 1975 to Oct. 10, 1978; Brad Park 1974-75 to Nov. 7, 1975; Vic Hadfield 1971-72 thru 1973-74; Bob Nevin Feb. 5, 1965 thru 1970-71; Camille Henry Feb. 23, 1964 to Feb. 4, 1965; Andy Bathgate 1961-62 to Feb. 22, 1964; George Sullivan 1957-58 thru 1960-61; Harry Howell 1955-56 thru 1956-57; Don Raleigh Nov. 4, 1953 thru 1954-55; Allan Stanley Dec. 20, 1951 to Nov. 3, 1953; Frank Eddolls 1950-51 to Dec. 6, 1951; Buddy O'Connor 1949-50; Neil Colville 1945-46 thru Dec. 21, 1948; Ott Heller 1942-43 thru 1944-45; Art Coulter 1937-38 thru 1941-42; Bill Cook 1926-27 thru 1936-37

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 7:44 am EST

1 comment from that article....is perfect.... Matthew L. Kean · C. W. Post Campus, Long Island University ....and he quietly chews more gum.

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 7:25 am EST

capt fugitive needs to go, in the meantime the C should not be his. 0-3 with him in the playoffs this year....1-1 without him....end of story.....own it.....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 7:15 am EST

YORK if Hank tells fishboy or glennie the coach has to go, HE'S GONE !

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 7:10 am EST

I always thought Chris Drury would be a good coach one day.

Higgy21


Sun Apr 24 2016 7:09 am EST

Captain mcclueless shows exactly why he is not captain material and has no feel or level of leadership in the locker room or on the ice. His quotes show exactly what one of the biggest problems this team has. As for hank he did the right thing he called out the players and the coach he can't win this by himself and he sent the message to the gm what we are all saying here. Lazy hockey and no leadership on the bench.

York18


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:52 am EST

Veengottago was heard signing this song after the game....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc_oLZuFwaI

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:41 am EST

TIME TO PROMOTE FROM WITHIN......http://www.hartfordwolfpack.com/team/hockey-staff

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:25 am EST

The Phucking Phlyers are still playing and we're not!...what does that tell you?

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:23 am EST

CAPT FUGITIVE PARMENTER...TIME TO GO....http://www.blueshirtsunited.com/video/mcdonagh-we-didnt-play-well-enough-series

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:22 am EST

http://www.blueshirtsunited.com/article/beuks-blog-tip-iceberg-brady-skjei

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:20 am EST

- Captain Ryan McDonagh on the Rangers never gaining any traction through the season/playoffs: “It’s tough to kind of grasp. I’m not really worried about the regular season. Coming into the playoffs, you have an opportunity. We didn’t give ourselves a chance so that’s frustrating…There’s nothing really fancy about it. It’s about them making plays and us not executing.”

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:14 am EST

a leopard cannot change its spots

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:10 am EST

RF73 THE hope was that he would learn from his mistakes, and grow...NOT HAPPENING...TIME TO GO.....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:07 am EST

This article needs to be posted in its entirety...Why Canuck Coach Alain Vigneault Deserved to be Fired Last Updated: May 23, 2013 10:25 AM PDT Despite amassing the best record in team history, Alain Vigneault is out of a job. And rightfully so. by Scott Taylor Yesterday’s announcement of the firing of Canuck coach Alain Vigneault was certainly inevitable, though, in the minds of many, not deserved. Canuck President and General Manager Mike Gillis was sacrificing his coach to save himself many said. It is Gillis, who deserves the scrutiny many will say. And not Vigneault, the media friendly long-term coach, who has easily amassed the best coaching record in franchise history. And certainly Gillis’ body of work requires plenty of critical appraisal at this point. And that will most certainly come. If it already hasn’t. It was obvious from Gillis’ demeanour yesterday that he is clearly feeling the heat. But the time for a coaching change in Vancouver had long passed. Despite Vigneault’s gaudy record as Canuck boss, his day was done. Witness the following. Complacent Canucks Since the Stanley Cup loss to Boston two years ago, the number of sixty minute efforts expended by his squad could be counted on one hand. The President’s Trophy and divisional titles in that span were buoyed by a weak schedule and strong goaltending. We won’t go so far to say his team had tuned him out, but they had become a mostly complacent crew, fully exposed in their consecutive first round playoff exits to lower seeded opponents. Inconsistent Player Development During his time here, Vigneault displayed an inability to consistently nurture young talent. In the salary cap constrained world, getting contributions from young players with small salaries is paramount. To his credit, Vigneault developed the likes of Ryan Kesler, Jannik Hansen and Chris Tanev. But more strikingly, players like Cody Hodgson and Zack Kassian could never find their way out of his doghouse. The rift with Hodgson, in fact, began when Coach Vigneault accused the rookie of faking what turned out to be a serious back injury. Clearly, young players who were committed to defense first (like Tanev and Hansen) would be in the good books of Vigneault, while those with creative offensive instincts (Hodgson and Kassian) would be forever shackled. At yesterday’s press conference, Gillis acknowledged the importance of getting contributions from younger players going forward, a passive indictment of Vigneault’s record in that regard. Repeated Playoff Failures Many will remember Coach Vigneault as the man who coached the Canucks to within a game of the Stanley Cup. History will show, however, that his teams notoriously under achieved in the playoffs. His Canuck teams played in twelve playoff series (with home ice advantage in ten of them), winning six times. More recently, they have lost ten of their last 11 playoff games despite being the favourite. And most tellingly, their playoff elimination game record during his seven years at the helm featured only eight wins in 21 attempts – a glaring signal that his team could not play their best when it mattered most. Hired to be Fired Finally, and most importantly, coaching changes work. The history of sport does not feature stories of immeasurable patience in your coaching staff being rewarded with championships. It simply does not happen. In fact, the opposite is typically true. Of the last ten Stanley Cup champions, the average tenure of the head coach has been two seasons. Three times in that period, the winner has featured a coach in his first season with the club. So after seven seasons, Coach Vigneault winds up where all coaches eventually do. He had tremendous opportunity here, one that was left mostly unfulfilled. And on that basis, while amassing the best record in franchise history, will not be remembered as the greatest Canuck coach ever. By no means is he solely responsible for this organizational failure, but he is certainly the most easily accountable at this moment in time.

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 6:06 am EST

What is worse is if Ranger Brass couldn't see this before they hired him then they deserve to be fired as well...but that is another story and an already all too familiar refrain.

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 5:55 am EST

nystranger - the best line from that article is the lone comment...."and he quietly chews more gum."

RF73


Sun Apr 24 2016 5:51 am EST

Wow that Vancouver article sounds almost like reading what happened here with him hopefully the firing holds up to become true as well

York18


Sun Apr 24 2016 5:46 am EST

Vic with you on no support of the league. BOB what the hell do you think the pens had in order to aquire Crosby Malkin and company playoff success? Let me buy you a clue throw you a life line they had lean years bottomed out years where they managed a few number one overall picks again I return to how the league helps certain markets when in trouble 2003 first overall 2004 second overall, 2005 a year the rangers should have had a better shot at Crosby than Pitt but pitt gets first overall while the league is trying to help Mario save the team coincidence? No you think the rangers will ever get first overall to draft blue chippers of that level? No they wont

York18


Sun Apr 24 2016 5:14 am EST

Yesterday’s gone. And Zed is dead and buried.............http://nypost.com/2016/04/23/this-is-the-end-goodbye-to-a-rangers-era/

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 5:13 am EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/23/in-praise-of-screaming-nick-mangold-a-fans-ideal-athlete/

stevielegs


Sun Apr 24 2016 4:53 am EST

16) I’m more looking at the things that didn’t get fixed all season long, which reminded me of a John Muckler/Ron Low season – although, obviously nowhere nearly as bad or hopeless. 17) I really have no idea how his boss, Jeff Gorton, views the job AV did this year, no idea if he’s in any danger at all. But I was pretty sure his predecessor would be back after 2013 and after the overachieving that much-weaker team accomplished, and he got canned. That was a different GM, though, Glen Sather, and that was more the result of a mutiny than the result of a lockout-shortened season. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/24/game-5-rangers-penguins-in-review-2/#sthash.pppwxUmX.dpuf

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 11:27 pm EST

What a disaster. They played the first 10 minutes with the desperation that has been missing all season. But it didn't last, and really I never thought it would. I'll have more to post on the future in the coming days/weeks/months but I just want to restate something that a lot of us talked about before the series started. We weren't afraid of the Pens. We were afraid of the Rangers. Because all year long we saw so many problems with the team, and in the end those same problems were on display all series long. Horrible PK. Horrible PP. Defensive coverage issues. Uncontested scorning chances against. Inability to clear the zone or make simple 10 foot passes with or without pressure. Inconsistent goaltending. No chemistry or cohesion. No leadership in the locker room or on the ice. Stunning lack of focus at the end of periods and games. And most damning, the stunning lack of effort, desire or desperation. There were no innocent parties on this team. There were a few who were less guilty then the rest but it hardly seems worth mentioning. And I'd like to extend a warm F$*% YOU to the NHL. I will not watch another second of the playoffs. You will not extract another penny in ratings from me. The officiating was disgraceful in this series when it mattered. The Pens probably would have still won the series but what was done in this series and in the Chicago series was a disgraceful embarrassment. And if I do walk away from the NHL a big part of it will be because I loathe the corrupt, and morally reprehensible behavior of the the league.

Vic


Sat Apr 23 2016 10:51 pm EST

NYStranger - I was about to post the same link! Anyone know how to forward this to Gorton asap?

LeoS


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:25 pm EST

As they say things are never as good as they seem when you are winning and things are never as bad as they seem when you lose. I think you will see some better years out of some of these players next year. York has said that Nash has a good year then a bad so next year should be a good year. I think McD will be better with rest. Zucc I think he is what we see. Brass and step same. Hopefully Miller keeps improving. Wrath should keep improving. Soph jinx it not I don't want to see Hayes next year. Interesting off season coming round the corner. Watching Hawks and blues. Rangers never came close to this level of intensity

KIS


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:23 pm EST

Not sure it has been posted yet, but read this article and weep....so much the same thing here in NY...AV has gatta go.... http://vancouversun.com/news/community-blogs/why-canuck-coach-alain-vigneault-deserved-to-be-fired

NYStranger


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:21 pm EST

Well so happy I was out with family today and did not watch this crap. Kind of guessed what would happen although I was hoping for a stay of execution for a day anyways...don't think I have ever been so disgusted with the NY Rangers...it will be so hard to get into this team next season unless MAJOR changes happen. The Rangers just continually do things (trades, signings, draft picks, etc.) that I, my friends and many on this wall hate, dont like, don't understand,etc. why does it seem that those in charge know less than us? It s like somene just wants to fuck with us!

NYStranger


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:16 pm EST

Have to root for the Panthers now! Would be awesome to see Jagr.

Higgy21


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:09 pm EST

“We made it hard on ourselves all series,” said Rick Nash, whose two goals tied Derek Stepan for the club lead. “So many turnovers … we struggled with our defensive game throughout the season. “That hadn’t been the case at all in my first three years here.”

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:08 pm EST

‎@AGrossRecord Rick Nash: "We made it hard on ourselves. We didn’t keep it simple and stick to the game plan...If we did we would have had success."

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:08 pm EST

‎@AGrossRecord McDonagh: "We didn’t have nearly enough guys going, let alone the whole team going to give ourselves a chance. That’s really frustrating."

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:04 pm EST

Daily News NYR Poll: Keep 'em/Dump 'em...... http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/04/rangers-keep-em-dump-em/?utm_content=buffer55696&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDNSports+Twitter

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:01 pm EST

So any ex rangers worth rooting for to win the cup? Sorry Hags but I can't root for the Pens.

ges999


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:57 pm EST

I realize that people are sick of hearing me go on about Sather, but consider this..............Pittsburgh has Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, Kessell and Letang, can afford Hagelin and actually has some draft picks. Rangers are against the cap, have a bunch of salaries that are anchors around their necks for players that are decaying in front of our eyes and are not movable as a result. They have the 27th ranked prospects and their first draft pick this year will be pick #81. Glen Sather has hamstrung this organization, throwing away the future for the present in going for it and has failed. Buckle up, because the lean years are coming and they are going to last for awhile.

Bob


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:57 pm EST

Big problem for the Rangers this year and for some of them years past as well, there compete level just sucks they don't play with intensity. No purpose. Poor effort. Poor effort mentally and physically. Nash is a huge example. Yes he plays d but he isn't not payed 8 mill to play d. He is payed that much to score. He needs to get to the net. He needs to battle with that big body all over the ice. Brassard didn't battle. No intensity. Zucc didn't battle. He used to me a pain in the ass. Always in. A scuffle after the whistle. Not this year. So many follow the same description look at Hayes. Great skill and talent horrible effort both mental and physical. I don't think the kid was in good shape this year. The team needs some players that will battle. They need an upgrade in talent in certain areas. Who is world class? I'm not even sure Hank was world class this year. It should be an interesting off season first thing I would do is find a new coach. He just didn't reach these guys

KIS


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:44 pm EST

I mentioned some of this yesterday, but... NEEDS TO BE TRADED FOR ANYTHING: Nash, Girardi. TRADES SHOULD BE EXPLORED FOR: McDonagh, Lundqvist (although I can't see anyone taking his contract), Hayes. LET GO VIA FA: Moore, Boyle. PLAYERS TO RESIGN (depending on cost): Yandle, Eric Staal, Stalberg. POTENTIAL OFFSEASON ADDITIONS: Stamkos at all costs!!! This team needs a dramatic upgrade on offense. It also give the Rangers the opportunity to move Stepan or Brassard for a young winger or defenseman. If the Rangers can send McDonagh to Edmonton for their first, they can get a young stud foward, one of Auston Matthews, Patrik Laine or Jesse Puljujarvi. I don't think this team needs a total rebuild, but a retool is necessary. I'd love to see for next year: Miller-Stamkos-Laine, Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello, Buchnevich-Staal-Fast, Stalberg-Lindberg-?????, Staal-Klein, Yandle-McIlrath, Graves-Skjei... just musing... looking forward to the draft and beyond.

evets1980


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:31 pm EST

the fact is, everything Lundqvist says, is right. The team sucked in front of him. The most devastated person right now, is Mr. James Dolan. Knicks suck, and the Rangers only had 2 home playoff games. Unacceptable, and big changes are coming as long as Dolan owns this team.

Higgy21


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:31 pm EST

Looking at the current roster Sather has really hamstrung this team. I'm on board for moving hank if the price is right.

barto


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:15 pm EST

Yeah Lundqvist always subtly throws everyone under the bus, I wonder if some of the players get a little perturbed by that after a while.

heston


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:08 pm EST

Gresh... What always bugs me about Hank is that first he says he needs to be better and then he points fingers at everyone else. Own up to your own shortcomings and then shut your trap. Be a leader hairdo ...DREW... I agree. I would take Richter over Hank in the postseason too.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:08 pm EST

Gresh... What always bugs me about Hank is that first he says he needs to be better and then he points fingers at everyone else. Own up to your own shortcomings and then shut your trap. Be a leader hairdo ...DREW... I agree. I would take Richter over Hank in the postseason too.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 23 2016 7:35 pm EST

Earlier NBC ran a graphic that the Rangers were the only team to come back down 3-1, 2 years in a row. That's telling in itself. It's easy to look back and second guess. What would have happened had this team been bounced in the 2nd rd in 2014. They needed 6 games to beat a Canadiens team without Price. (Put up an effort in the finals). But if you're built to win, you shouldn't constantly be putting your back against the wall. Maybe those teams were chasing fools gold. Henrik bailed them out a few games. Now he's average and likely (I didn't check) statistically the worst goalie in these playoffs. How foolish is it that this guy markets a crown with his number? Now we are stuck with his albatross contract. I don't know who would take the contract. Would he even go? Richter over Lundqvist any day, now we have to wait for the Halverson/Shetstorkin era.

DREW


Sat Apr 23 2016 7:26 pm EST

This is a team that LACKS TALENT. I said this start of the season and we had a great opportunity to get some real assets at the trade deadline instead decided to drink the cool aid and doubled down on the dredge with a 'has been' and now it's gonna be quite a few years before we can play any meaningful hockey folks. this team is so hamstrung with bevy of NMC its basically going to be stuck in pergotory for years to come.

_Arc


Sat Apr 23 2016 7:26 pm EST

Hank's words are very telling. He admits he wasn't playing his best hockey but he also is saying what we all saw which is the the team in front of him, left him hanging. In all sports, you have to commit to play defense, when your heart isn't in it you get the results we saw all year. The commitment to defense just wasn't there all season long. Selfish players gave us this product this year.

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:53 pm EST

“I don’t know,” Lundqvist said of ending his season on the bench in third period. “The second period it was a feeling of embarrassment to give up that many goals but also a sense of hopelessness in being able to come up with saves and the score being the score in the second period, it was definitely not a good feeling. I had to sit in the third and think about what went wrong. Going to need a couple of days to analyze this, even the season as a whole, what was good what was not good and you have to learn from it. I think we played a team that was smarter, better and had better goaltending.” ....“I needed make lot of extra great saves and was not able to come up with that, for some reason,” Lundqvist said. “Sometimes you took a step on a guy, you need to be extremely confident as a goalie to stop those types of shots. These last two games I wasn’t strong enough to do that.” ....It was clear Lundqvist did not look comfortable in his crease. Just look at Eric Fehr’s goal at 1:09 of the first period in Game 4 as Lundqvist flubbed Ben Lovejoy’s slapper from the right, leaving a long, juicy rebound in the slot for Fehr to convert. ....“The first few games I felt pretty good, I trusted whatever I was doing out there, I felt like it was paying off,” Lundqvist said. “Just the looks they had, especially today but also the last game, you need to make sure you’re making good reads. .....“Obviously, especially the last two, I have to be better,” Lundqvist added. “But also the way we played, the way we give up chances, it’s going to be tough to win games. When you do give up chances like today, you have to be on your toes. You have to be playing a really strong game to come up with the saves. When you don’t, it was definitely not a good feeling. Especially today in the second period not being able to come up with the saves and just the way they created chances.”

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:42 pm EST

I just finished watching the game. I will say, on the bright side, at least we didn't push it to seven and watch the Rangers lose that seventh game. The team put us out of our misery today. It;s a total head scratcher as to why this team can't play 60 minutes... BTW, How the heck does Michelletti completely miss the fact that Stepan knocked in the first Penguins goal and Hageloin completely missed it? I noticed it with the Naked eye and this buffoon doesn't even see it on the multiple replays. Did he miss the look Hank gave Stepan too? He must be used to radio where he can constantly be wrong and no one can call him out on it. One of many plays he missed in the game, Total Dumb@ss.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:42 pm EST

Gresch they are a heartless bunch of shit IMO Lindberg wrath skeij Klein add the only ones I'd keep for sure everyone else can be traded and I would not care knw bif actually raanta showed swag I like him too

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:36 pm EST

It's time to make moves, clean house, cut bait, etc.............. Cut,paste & save your suggestions folks, there's gonna be plenty of repetition and figuring out to do....... It's time to de-fund this bridge to nowhere.....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:10 pm EST

I don't blame you Y18....Even if AV is delegating the ice time, how do you explain the wide open shots from down the slot or in front of Hank. To me it goes back to what I've been saying, this core group of players have no heart. They gave all us fans the big FU at the garden the other night and punctuated it with this effort today.

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:10 pm EST

Thanks Duguay for that great advice about making the right picks in the draft: WHAT PICKS?? WHAT FUCKING PICKS????????? THEY'VE BEEN TRADED AWAY!!!!!!

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:06 pm EST

Gresch played goalie twice a lot of fun not my position lol. Prefer being a forward.

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:05 pm EST

I think he delegates ice time on AVs say and uses the pairings AV says. He's not just working with his own agenda or trying to work with AV. I believe wrath is an ulfie style player. And the fact he isn't there speaks volumes of ulfies say. Ulfie spoke glowingly about wrath during the season when he played.

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:01 pm EST

York - Ulf is supposedly in charge of the defense. Was this poor planning or poor execution?

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:48 pm EST

I went back and reread my posts hate posting on this think too manyistakes.

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:46 pm EST

Good save York, they should have started you in net today. Lol

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:46 pm EST

Stupid cell phone buttons are so close when posting

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:45 pm EST

That should have said spit not slit

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:44 pm EST

York. Becareful on what you're saying dude. Remember, big brother is always watching

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:41 pm EST

What about Nash? No bye-bye?

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:41 pm EST

Greschner4 - Yeah that makes sense, great defense, no shots on goal, your chances of winning are pretty good.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:41 pm EST

AV needs to go ID live to walk up to him blow a whistle in his face slit in his face blow the whistle and say whistle to whistle keep your composure.

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:40 pm EST

Higgy - I don't want to see AV go but where did his balls go? I mean he was mentored by Pat Burns for Christ sakes. AV, if he stays needs to find his balls or grow a new set. Cause his passiveness is not gonna go well any more with the ranger faithful.

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:38 pm EST

Bye bye Boyle, Girardi, Moore, Hayes and good riddance.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:38 pm EST

It's nothing but facts the pens are struggling so bad Mario had to come back to save the franchise they get a first overall pick in Crosby to save the franchise along with a bevy of high firsts. Mario being allowed to pay himself 1 mil and the league allowing it. Now look at edm a team that needed owners they get a ton of firsts. Mario looking to sell and having trouble a quick playoff exit would not hell thag. Areas where fans have abandoned their teams always get league hell. Solid markets the league could give a shite about. A league should never be allowed to control a team it's a complete conflict of interest but it happens. You want bs league stuff Hartford whalers fans were told if x amount of season tickets were sold the team would not be moved the mark was reached. Well why did they move? The league allowed the whalers owner to not count luxury boxes and certain areas which was never said allowing the team to move. I can go on and on and some things I won't mention because it comes out of left field but is so true.

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:37 pm EST

Why fire Veenyo? u can't put the entire blame on him. These players quit, they gotta go. The Flyers who nobody thought would even make the playoffs won so far 2 games against the presidents trophy winning Capitals.

Higgy21


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:36 pm EST

Play defense and there is no shoot high on hankie

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:34 pm EST

Shoot high on Hankie, SCORE!

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:34 pm EST

Dan Boyle happy trails to you .. Enjoy your retirement... Thank veenyo for keeping you out of this embarrassment....at least you won a cup....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:32 pm EST

tracerm - not disagreeing with you on the numbers. But that is a direct reflection on how bad we played defensively. Both Duguay and Vali were reflecting on how time and time again, Hank had to be perfect.

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:31 pm EST

MF, I do believe the refs would never have let us get close to Bettman's dream series Crosby/Ovie. But we didn't do nearly enough of anything for the zebras to mean anything. This team mailed in their performance and were waving the white flag from period 2 in game 3 and on..

Shaggy


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:29 pm EST

VEENYO PLEASE VOLUNTEER AND RESIGN ...SAVE YOUR GUM CHEWING FACE ...fishboy will retain you for some job ....in Siberia....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:29 pm EST

Greschner4 Lundvist - 4.39 GAA, .867 Save Percentage. These are AHL numbers. Shoot high on Hank, and you score. Plain and simple, he was terrible. And he was not alone.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:27 pm EST

tracerm: no argument there... This series though, we needed to beat the Penns & the Zebra's, it just wasn't in the script.... Hey, stop being a lurker! :-)

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:23 pm EST

tracerm - you could be the second coming of Patrick Roy, when your defenseman allow wide open opportunities to be had against your goalie, your not gonna win. Every shot was from the slot or right in front of Hank.

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:23 pm EST

Post game press release from henrik lundquits----- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z-OOW5CP7NQ

sportyplaya1188


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:22 pm EST

We need big fast mobile players with grit

rangerlou


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:21 pm EST

I really do not like this team.Ore this core of players.

rangerlou


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:19 pm EST

Henrietta is not getting any younger, reflexes not getting any quicker. Butterfly goalies don't play that well into their mid thirties, he is no exception.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:16 pm EST

Hank with his self loving tributes to himself wearing the cup with the number 30 on his hat and a crown with the number 30 on his shoulder. Go comb your hair and wink at yourself pretty boy

tlats


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:15 pm EST

MF - Lets take a look at the stats Zuccarello - 1 Goal Brassard - 1 Goal Miller - 0 Goals Kreider - 2 Goals Nash - 1 Goal Stepan - 2 Goals So you tell me.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:14 pm EST

WIOSA - way to go old school Hospo on that last post! :l)

LeoS


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:13 pm EST

I'm right there with you Stevie, preach my brother.

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:11 pm EST

FUCK YOU PARMENTER GIVE UP THE C...YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO THROW THE WHOLE TEAM UNDER THE BUS...VOLUNTEER TO BE TRADED.......GTFOOH....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:11 pm EST

This group is mentally spent. Time for changes. If Dolan was smart, he'd get rid of the GM too. They've made some god awful moves the last couple of seasons and now the cupboard is bare and no picks to restock. Give another hockey brain a crack at it.

Shaggy


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:10 pm EST

So Fishstick felt that this team needed another kick to the can? Well, that happened... Unlike some of the emotion going on right now I don't think the NYR are far away. They need some work. Some guys gotta get a new address, some younger guys gotta get in there. Get some cap relief. This will be the pivotal moment for our intrepid GM. He gets to put his finger prints on this team. Should be interesting this summer. But I'm not expecting some UFA hero to come in.

E


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:10 pm EST

Ryan McDonagh my new favorite person to hate. Capt selfish.

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:08 pm EST

and that is what I was referring to when I posted that "the blueprint" was set....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:06 pm EST

There is no intelligent comment to be made other than I do not like, no change that, I detest Michiletti and Av.

gene_carr


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:05 pm EST

tracerm: Its water under the bridge, but their were obvious phantom calls against the Rangers in game one.... Egregious to the extent that one could rub their eyes and say, "wtf?" I didn't see anything...... Followed by infractions by the Penguins which went uncalled... This was very prevalent in the 1st game & again in the 2nd...... To give AV the benefit of "some" doubt, he may have instructed the Rangers to dial it back a little because otherwise we're playing man down most of the series....... We will never know if that was the case, but it's certainly a possibility.....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:01 pm EST

IMO: It's time to clean house...... Thoroughly examine what's out there, and figure out the trades & signings...... We can start with firing SuckaDickaletti, then trade the rights to Yandle & E. Staal.....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:00 pm EST

Brassard hugs le fag tang ... Give him a stick to his teeth ... Fin moron...you can volunteer to be traded ....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:00 pm EST

I have no idea. Conspiracy theories are always nice crutches when the obvious is too painful to accept.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 5:00 pm EST

No that this season is over it is time to fully support my other team that continually manages to break my heart - LET'S GO METS!!!!

ges999


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:57 pm EST

Disgraceful performance....I hate a quitter...Not proud to be a fan of this bunch....AV must go....

PJ


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:57 pm EST

tracerm: What do you think York18 meant in his post at 4:39?

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:57 pm EST

Embarrassing!

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:56 pm EST

FUCK YOU VEENYO... FUCK YOU CAPT FUGITIVE PARMENTER .....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:55 pm EST

Breach...I'm with you 100%..Measure turned me with Van Couver debacle...and then back here again. I'll go go Grves any day of the week

WIOSA


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:55 pm EST

Look. Pens have better fans than us too !!

stepunmytoe


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:55 pm EST

Thank God this is over with. New era begins after July 1st.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:52 pm EST

4 minutes left to this last embarrassment

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:51 pm EST

Zucc, invisible in this series.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:50 pm EST

I'm sure fishboy will have volunteers who will want to be traded if he keeps weknow ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:47 pm EST

Is Stepan dressed tonight?

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:47 pm EST

BTW, if E Staal's intention is to return to Carolina, I hope Marc is open to going there, too. They've got a bevy of young, talented players and prospects on the blueline one of they might be willing to trade to have the Staal trio as an intriguing draw for their fans.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:47 pm EST

First 4 that have to go veenyo ahkneel ulfaa and whatever the blind guy in the sky name is ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:47 pm EST

I don't want capt hypocrite anywhere near this team. Besides, he's too busy with his kingsbridge hockey rink project.

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:46 pm EST

Indeed Stevie. I see where he blasted off one way to Mars. I'll bet you wish he took the Captain along! :-)

Nick


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:45 pm EST

I rather see Gernander get a shot though

tlats


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:45 pm EST

One big positive is the play of Skjei. Very impressive. Strong skater, good with the puck and very very poised. Encouraging as hell. Too bad AV hates McI so much - this PO experience would have been invaluable for him. IMO, AV has been a detriment to McI's development - let's hope the kid's not mentally impacted.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:44 pm EST

I have a funny feeling we will see coach Mark Messier next year

tlats


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:44 pm EST

I can save big $ and not be pissed off. Winning!

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:42 pm EST

I'm boycotting hockey until the Brooklyn team is eliminated. Why am I obsessed with them? You have to see the annoying texts I'm getting. If isles win cup, no more NHL for me.

DREW


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:42 pm EST

tracerm: I didn't subscribe this year because I was worried this would happen. Miss over half the games but so many that I did watch were exercises in frustration anyways. What we're seeing in this PO series mirrors what we saw too much of in the regular season. It's so obvious some serious changes (re coach and some of the core) must be jettisoned. Does Gorton has the guts? Will Sather restrain him? Shall be interesting to see what unfolds.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:42 pm EST

York they want the pigpens to win that's a fact just need to find the emails ...2 high sticks drawing blood today no calls... That says it all...4 officials missed that so 8x2=16 eyes closed ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:40 pm EST

DirecTV is going to have to get income elsewhere next year, no NHL Center Ice for me in 2016-2017.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:40 pm EST

RF it will be for me I'll be done

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:39 pm EST

Man this league does not want the rangers to win

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:39 pm EST

York: Re AV stays and McI goes, I feel the same way and mentioned that a few days ago - it might be the straw that finally breaks the camels back when it comes to me following this team.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:37 pm EST

After all this if wrath is traded and AV stays I'm officially done till all remnants of sather, gorton,AV are gone from this team. I'd like to say it was a fun ride but this team are heartless POS IMO and for the first time they have made me embarrassed to be a fan of this team they don't deserve fans like they have after the effort they have given nice to see Diaz score funny how wrath plays great skeij plays great Diaz having a decent game and McD who should be sitting sucks g back lmao AV is a friggin ass clown

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:36 pm EST

Same to you Nick stay thirsty .. This team will drive you to drink ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:36 pm EST

Diaz got robbed! Will AV finally appeal to the league??

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:34 pm EST

Somewhere there is a backboard with LeTangs' name on it. Maybe in DC?

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:32 pm EST

Well ... I got nuthin'. Best to all for a great summer and good health my friends!

Nick


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:31 pm EST

Go Diaz, GO!!!

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:31 pm EST

That's very telling right there. Only the 2nd PP goal in the series

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:31 pm EST

Diaz making weknow look smart... Not easy

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:30 pm EST

damn right!

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:30 pm EST

More Diaz ! That cements his spot next year if AV stays.

stepunmytoe


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:30 pm EST

Wow a ppg need 4 more

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:30 pm EST

Here comes the predicted Diaz hat trick!!!!!!!

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:29 pm EST

Holy crap. A one timer!

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:28 pm EST

Do the ranger players know how to take one timers? Pathetic!!

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:27 pm EST

Nbc not showing weknow saving me from breaking a tv screen

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:24 pm EST

Uncle raanta is in ? Pull Capt fugitive too ... Play 6 d ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:22 pm EST

I know many here go back further but I've been following this team since 1979, in that time I've never seen anything like theses last two playoff performances. Just embarrassing!! Bring back Eddie Mio!!

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:22 pm EST

McIlrath is an RFA, but it would sure be nice if he could tell the NYR to SUCK IT and leave for Calgary or Edmonton.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:22 pm EST

On the bright side, there is more time for Gordie Clark to prepare for our first draft pick, which is #81.

Bob


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:21 pm EST

Evets absolutely Gernander with Beukeboom

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:21 pm EST

Evets absolutely Gernander with Beukeboom

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:20 pm EST

I like the idea of Germander getting a shot....would be good for McIlrath.....

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:20 pm EST

More Diaz !

stepunmytoe


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:20 pm EST

Shaggy...lol. Can we just forfeit?

WIOSA


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:19 pm EST

The death watch begins.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:17 pm EST

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!

Shaggy


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:17 pm EST

Agreed Gresch. I am sure AV is telling them to play whistle to whistle between periods

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:16 pm EST

wrong way veenyo from THE finals, to THE semi-finals, to one and done.... TO OUT THE DOOR... HOPE THE DOOR HITS YOU IN YOUR HEAD ON THE WAY OUT.....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:16 pm EST

Is it time for Ken Gernander to get a shot at the NHL?

evets1980


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:16 pm EST

go back and read the posts from games one & two.... the blueprint was set.....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:13 pm EST

Crosby won't see much ice in the third period.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:12 pm EST

Blaming THIS on referees and Bettman? What game are YOU watching?

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:12 pm EST

The lady is singing....

bazzer


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:11 pm EST

There is one person who has the balls to lay out letang but he didn't get to dress for this game

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:11 pm EST

Moof you can I'll pass ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:11 pm EST

This year's squad doesn't have the courage or the pride to punish one of the Pens. The entire last three years can be summed up by the Nash miss on a beautiful pass in this game. What an absolute fraud that guy is... AV better be gone!

Tucc


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:11 pm EST

The New York Rangers look like hockey's version of the Washington Generals. They should be playing "Sweet Georgia Brown" on the public address system in Pittsburgh.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:10 pm EST

U know there will be a big overhaul. Firing the coach would be the easiest. Each yr now, we take huge steps back.

Higgy21


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:09 pm EST

Ovechkin will lay letang out. Nobody on this team has any balls

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:09 pm EST

5 unanswered goals 4 -0 in second period ... They quit thanks coach I hope you're gone after this disgrace ...grow a pair Gorton fishboy ahab harpoon Moby little dick ....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:08 pm EST

MFred: I do believe that they played an integral part....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:08 pm EST

I still want LeTang laid out......that's all.

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:07 pm EST

Cmark: What do you think it would cost us to pry DUCHENE from the AV's ??? t/y

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:06 pm EST

The late pat burns must be turning over in his grave watching AV disgrace him with the way he has coached in this series.

Greschner4


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:06 pm EST

Stevie: you gonna hire him?

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:06 pm EST

I don't think Hanks vision is 100%

ColoradoMark


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:06 pm EST

I don't think Hanks vision is 100%

ColoradoMark


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:06 pm EST

mf......you think this is on the Refs and Buttman......jayzzzzzuuuussss, c'mon.

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:05 pm EST

Higgy...hmmm, wonder if Hank's eye is 100%.. If Not, maybe we can force him into an medical insurance related retirement..... Could be a loophole to shed his Cap Hit.... My boy, you're brilliant! :-) don't get a swell head.. :-)

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:04 pm EST

FIRE VEENYO !!!!!!!!!!!!

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:04 pm EST

I wish that was the 3rd period

ref24


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:03 pm EST

Disgraceful...

Tucc


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:03 pm EST

Will the Pens get to 10 ?

stepunmytoe


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:02 pm EST

The Rangers should NOT show up for the hand-shakes.... NOT after what Buttman & the REFS did to define this series........ Phuck them!

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:02 pm EST

Wow...a little pride guys please...please

WIOSA


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:02 pm EST

we basically all saw this coming. I knew as soon as he had the eye injury in game1, this series was already over. Just like that first play In the Super Bowl with Denver and Seattle a few yrs ago, u knew the game was over. The tone was already set.

Higgy21


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:01 pm EST

Fire AV in 48 hours? How about between periods? Seriously, that announcement needs to come tomorrow am.

Punchrolfe


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:01 pm EST

NN: Because both goalies are mediocre. The King still has good hockey left in him. I think.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:01 pm EST

Lundvist means "Sieve" in Swedish.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:00 pm EST

Girardi is embarrassing.

stepunmytoe


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:00 pm EST

RF4L: Why would Dallas take on his in your words his albatross of a contract; when they have 2 goalies with 2 years left on their contracts and both have NTC's. One has a $5.9 cap hit and the other $4.5.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:00 pm EST

RF4L: Why would Dallas take on his in your words his albatross of a contract; when they have 2 goalies with 2 years left on their contracts and both have NTC's. One has a $5.9 cap hit and the other $4.5.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:00 pm EST

AV gets the Broadway Hat. This is beyond embarrassing. I've run out of adjectives

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:00 pm EST

Classless surrender buy a gutless bunch of pukes. They should be ashamed of themselves. I am ashamed to be a fan of theirs.

Bob


Sat Apr 23 2016 4:00 pm EST

Props to jratelle for calling that goal an hour ago

LeoS


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:59 pm EST

This is a fitting end to a terrible season. Pure embarrassment. I sure hope this is the last game for at least 1/3 of this team and perhaps 1/2 or more.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:59 pm EST

RF: I'd resign Stalberg & would not trade FAST......

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:58 pm EST

Depressing...

NV94


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:58 pm EST

Just wait, Diaz is saving the hat trick for the third period.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:58 pm EST

Ha ha ha ha ha ha BAWAWAWAWAWAWwWawawaw

rangerlou


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:57 pm EST

NN: I'll trade with any team out there if it helps the Rangers, even Philthy..... The more teams interested in Hank, the better the return... Simple supply & demand principles.....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:57 pm EST

Oh my that Diaz is a wonder, isn't he?

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:56 pm EST

Nice shot by Fast and big rebound but 3 (THREE!) Penguins to clear the puck away and ZERO Rangers there.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:56 pm EST

Murry out playing hank big time

tlats


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:56 pm EST

Goddamn embarrassment

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:56 pm EST

Jesus effing sieveqvist

LeoS


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:56 pm EST

RF.., no disagreement here, just trying to stress the mis-management from the jump. This coach is nothing more than Frank Costanza trying to feed the troops bad meat if you know what I mean.

pa.rangersfan


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:55 pm EST

Please pull this POS from goal. What the hell?

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:55 pm EST

An example of real top line talent vs pretend top line talent

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:55 pm EST

Pull the King. NOW!

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:55 pm EST

Tank Hank yank cranker

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:55 pm EST

LOL...Sheary loves shooting at the King.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:54 pm EST

Good night Irene

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:54 pm EST

Special teams have killed us. Pp at 5% and PK at 50%

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:54 pm EST

RF, exactly.... Backes is an UFA, had more points than E.Staal & was paid $4.5mill this year... He's producing in his PO series, it's his brand of hockey, & isn't that what it's all about?

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:53 pm EST

RF- completely agree. Been a Ranger fan for too long. You know they will screw this up. They will keep AV and trade Big Mac. It's inevitable!

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:52 pm EST

It would be great if a puck was fired into Phuck-a-letti's mouth.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:52 pm EST

If I were Gorton, I'd stake my claim to this team by firing the coaching staff within 48 hours of the end of this debacle, and then get to work surveying the best value available for every player on the roster. Not that they all need to go, but we need a restart with less albatross contacts, more Draft picks, a better farm / scouting system, and allot more nastiness.

TXRanger


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:52 pm EST

Nash in front of the net, what a concept

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:51 pm EST

mf: I know, they aren't obvious choices. In part because you need some core players and I like their attitudes. They are solid team first guys who aren't unskilled. Of course no way does E Staal come back unless he takes a huge paycut.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:50 pm EST

pa.ranger: The strong start was due to the goalies. The crap we're seeing now was there right from the start.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:49 pm EST

RF: Surprised you have the Staals on the do not trade list..... As part of the exit interviews, I'd ask Girardi, M. Staal, Nash to have their agents submit a list of the 10 teams they'd accept a trade to.......

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:49 pm EST

Have been trying to contain myself but I just can't resist anymore. We can call out all the players we want, this is an EPIC fail on behalf of this coach; he has torpedoed the effort since the start of the season. This Club never looked good to me, even during the strong start. A team tends to mirror its coach and never has this been more evident. Say what you will about Torts but damn, he wouldn't have stood for this shit show. No need for me to state the obvious gaffes but, the accountability here should fall on this coach and upper management for allowing this team to be so glaringly mishandled!

pa.rangersfan


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:49 pm EST

Fotiu: If they don't, next year will suck, too. So desperately need a new voice and new direction here. It's beyond obvious.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:48 pm EST

Can't wait to hear the excuses why this team floundered.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:47 pm EST

Let VeenYo go to the beaches of Normandie....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:47 pm EST

No way they are firing AV. I want to be wrong but I just don't see it

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:47 pm EST

Moore playing with a decided edge.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:45 pm EST

Glad to see the Rangers whacking and hacking Letang. Keep it up - it's so deserved.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:45 pm EST

5 - 2 should mean the end of the King's season.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:45 pm EST

VEENYO'S Summer lease on his Hampton beach home kicks in tomorrow.

rangerlou


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:44 pm EST

NN: I posted this earlier today: Dallas is perhaps the best destination for the King. They sorely need a true number 1 and looked poised for a good run.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:44 pm EST

Stupid Moore forgot to 'apologize' so he's off to the box

LeoS


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:43 pm EST

Just lay out LeTang.....that's all I'm asking for......

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:43 pm EST

Is or was there a more spineless team in these playoffs than the Rangers? Sadly, no pushback, protection or guts by almost everyone. As others have noted, my fear is the Rangers will trade McI and he'll come back to haunt us for years.

chet94


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:43 pm EST

jratelle: Yep, but in reality, they mailed it in from game one of the regular season. It isn't unusual after a run like we've seen. Let's just hope the GM recognizes this for what it is and starts the retool, with move 1 being dismissing the coach, this off-season.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:43 pm EST

That shot of the Rangers bench says it all. They look beat already.

barto


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:42 pm EST

MF: When was the last time the Rangers/Islanders made a trade?? If Hank ever got traded it would be to one of the teams in the Western Conference.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:42 pm EST

Yeah, we all knew the Diaz solution was the right one. LOL...pretty funny actually. More astute roster manipulations from AV. LOL.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:41 pm EST

Smart pinch by Diaz there and a brilliant play by "big game" brass. Comical

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:41 pm EST

They've mailed it in. An utter embarassment to every Ranger fan.

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:41 pm EST

FU@K THIS TEAM.TOTAL BULLSHIT

rangerlou


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:41 pm EST

Henrik getting the "Hextall" chant

DREW


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:40 pm EST

Gawd, I sure hope this is the last time that asshole is behind the Ranger bench. 7 d-men - really working well, eh?

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:40 pm EST

Just glad we have Diaz, as that has solved our problems.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:40 pm EST

Time to call the fight. Rangers have succumbed. What a freaking embarrassment.

Bob


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:40 pm EST

Looking like a team that wanted the summer off early for awhile.. The Sequins are playing uptempo and confident...we spend most of this year giving the puck away in our own end time after time... I'm not in favour of blowing up everything here.. but changes need to come.. Need to decide who's the core moving forward from here

sjw


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:40 pm EST

Effin kidding me

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:39 pm EST

Yandle a sparkling -3 now. A first and Duclair for him. LOL. SATHER SUCKS!

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:39 pm EST

Bob - Yeah after they mentioned it was 2 goals on 9 shots I thought Yup, on pace for last games 4 in 18...whoop, and as I type, there it is!

LeoS


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:39 pm EST

Brassard sucks.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:39 pm EST

That's 4, Yank Hank !

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:38 pm EST

Phuck-off-letti gushing about previous Pittsburgh teams now. He can't contain himself.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:38 pm EST

Oh and of course, McI. HUGE mistake trading him if that's what happens.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:37 pm EST

Miller's a keeper for sure. So is Skjei. KK. Kreider. Lindberg. Both Staals. Now I'm running out of names. Sadly.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:36 pm EST

The ice is tilted .......all uphill from here.

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:36 pm EST

More useless east/west shit from these stubborn Rangers. Rangers on their heels. Game and season over I suspect. Mercifully.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:35 pm EST

Henrik rocking the .800 Save % so far.

Bob


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:35 pm EST

Let's see if these bunch of tin men roll over or if they show some heart

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:35 pm EST

What's ailing this team is the coach....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:34 pm EST

All the physical play from earlier on in the series by the Rangers has disappeared. Puck watching galore again.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:34 pm EST

All the physical play from earlier on in the series by the Rangers has disappeared. Puck watching galore again.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:34 pm EST

we're not hitting these guys....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:33 pm EST

McD is still a quality defenseman - top pairing on most teams. He's sucked into whatever is ailing this team, he's hurt and IMO the C is too big a burden. And he's arguably the top trading chip Gorton has and no way should Gorton not explore that.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:32 pm EST

Remember how excited we were to get McDonough in that Gomez trade?

DREW


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:31 pm EST

Does yandle realize he plays defense?

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:30 pm EST

Yandle terrible in his own end....wandering up the Ranger zone with no awareness of where the Pittsburgh players are.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:30 pm EST

capt fugitive fuck you , you're pos giveaway artist...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:30 pm EST

There's the season right there. Can't end soon enough for me.

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:27 pm EST

Suck-a-dickaletti.................

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:26 pm EST

Girardi causes the whole mess and Dickaletti praises him for his ensuing defense. Unbelievable

stepunmytoe


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:26 pm EST

Well I gues we played hard for one period. Looks like they want to take this one off.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:26 pm EST

SLegs: I wouldn't fault Hankie on that one........

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:21 pm EST

Hank put kessel's shot in , it was going wide and hit his stick to go in

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:19 pm EST

and if we took Halak back with 2 years remaining at $4.5mill per, how much salary would we need to actually eat?

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:16 pm EST

NN: Let's start with the Islanders.... Hank wouldn't need to move from his home.....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:16 pm EST

Something is missing with this group. it has been said before, but this is simply not the same team as the last 4 years. Most obviously, their effort is spotty all season, and from period to period. Henrik is beginning to show his age. Their attention to detail is way off. No way they are winning the cup, so whether they go out today or later is really not all that critical to me. Now what is critical is this Summer and what changes are made.

Bob


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:14 pm EST

MF: I would think they would have to eat at least $2-2.5 million for a goalie on the downside of his career; and they would have find that team that needs a goalie and a team that he would waive his NMC to go to. Good luck with that one and lastly,,Happy Passover.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:07 pm EST

As you see the early momentum is gone and the ice is starting to look tilted again. Let's see what our Coach comes up with between periods. I have a feeling this gets ugly. In fairness to Diaz he's been ok.

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:03 pm EST

tracerm: is there a link to listen on the internet? t/y

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:01 pm EST

My mistake. It'll happen towards the end of the second.

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:01 pm EST

We lose, this is Nash's last game as a Ranger.... Bet Boyle didn't think last game was his last game.........

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:00 pm EST

Here comes the inevitable goal they give up in the last minute of the period.

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:00 pm EST

Mf - not just shown, violently pushed thru, preferably while it's still closed ☺

LeoS


Sat Apr 23 2016 3:00 pm EST

NN: re: Hank: If we eat some salary & he becomes more & more attractive: $500K, $1mill, $1.5mill $1.75mill, $2mill.... We'll catch a fish.............

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:59 pm EST

Despise Michaletti but he is on a National broadcast today......sooooo maybe the NHL signs him and were rid of him.

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:58 pm EST

At least when the game is on MSG I can turn of the audio and listen to Albert and Maloney.

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:58 pm EST

BTW, Zuke's effectiveness this series equals what he did in last year's POs. I love this guy, but he's another who should be on the trading block IMO.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:57 pm EST

McD shot had to be traveling at least 3mph....if Murray would have fainted it might have gone in.

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:57 pm EST

Oh and now the inevitable - Dicknob stroking Crosby. Guess Malkin licking is next.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:55 pm EST

This is starting to look ugly again.....give away by McD 3 guys standing around

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:54 pm EST

BTW, Dickelitti has praised: Sheary, the German forward and Cullen in the past 5 minutes. SHUTTUP you stupid phuck.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:54 pm EST

Listening to Dickiletti, I'm so jealous of franchises that run their team properly. Dickaletti, this loyalty to our goalie because he's marketable and its New York. I loathe the fan base and the team but Butch Goring was really knowledgable and enjoyable last night. Not biased. I just wish Florida won.

DREW


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:54 pm EST

At least Nash playing with some balls. Finally.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:54 pm EST

I swear Nash's single biggest issue is he has no temper. No anger. So soft when it comes to physical play, especially if the opposing player challenges him. He took a borderline hit from Letang who then punched Nash and you could see him following Letang but when the puck gets to Letang instead of a solid hit or nasty whack, a little baby tap with the stick. To me that epitomizes all that's wrong with Nash's game.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:53 pm EST

Who clipped Nash in the mouth?

tracerm


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:52 pm EST

Has usual these refs are a joke

ges999


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:52 pm EST

RF: Dick-a-letti gushes over whoever the Rangers opponent is..... He needs to be shown the door

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:52 pm EST

Two penalties that have drawn blood in less than 5 games and 4 zebras miss them both? Really?

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:52 pm EST

So now we're up to 8 minutes of drawn blood uncalled highsticking

LeoS


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:51 pm EST

Dickelitti just gushing over the Pens. That man makes me ill.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:49 pm EST

Should have been 4 minutes. Chew that gum harder AV

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:48 pm EST

Another missed call with Nash hit in the face?

ges999


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:48 pm EST

RF4L: You just mentioned the albatross contract of Lundqvist; yet earlier today you were wondering if Gorton would entertain of trading him to Dallas; Tell me why they or any other team would take that albatross contract.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:47 pm EST

Those Pizz'a sure are slowing Kessel down, our boyz could use a few of those....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:47 pm EST

PP specialist Diaz - get to work dude!

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:47 pm EST

Think that would have missed the net if hank lets it go.

ges999


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:47 pm EST

I cant stand this...Hank shouldve had that...why does he go down so fast?

WIOSA


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:46 pm EST

The Refs continue to define this series.....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:46 pm EST

Hank has to come up bigger than that

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:45 pm EST

Was the boarding call against SKJEI to Fehr any different than the Lovejoy non-boarding call against Stepan? YES! One was against a Ranger, the other against a Penguin...

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:45 pm EST

Offside weknow challenge

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:45 pm EST

.....you're kidding.....

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:45 pm EST

The King didn't come to play. Geeesh...$8,500,000 for 5 more years? Another albatross contract courtesy of Glen Sather.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:45 pm EST

PK has been shit all season. Why expect it to change now?

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:44 pm EST

They just showed it - sorry

DREW


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:44 pm EST

RF4L: Their is no MSG feed for this game; it's NBC exclusive.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:44 pm EST

Wow. I completely missed that penalty

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:43 pm EST

Ummmmm any reason why Pittsburgh is on a PP?

DREW


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:43 pm EST

More of a chance to get puck luck when you're willing to drive to the net and go to the dirty areas and work.

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:41 pm EST

And oh, not the MSG feed - NBC feed Sportsnet has picked up. That's why it's Kenny Albert.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:40 pm EST

This one is for Hospo: Fast on a pseudo 4th line with Moore and Stalberg and guess what? An assist on a nice feed for a Stalberg goal.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:40 pm EST

Good things happen when you drive to the net... It's a two way street

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:38 pm EST

Nice defense by Mr $6,500,000 man. Puck watching. Again. So much for the early lead and dominance.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:35 pm EST

The reason Diaz was tapped is likely to try to jumpstart the PP. And Boyle looked fatigued last game so I don't have a problem with the Diaz move. If the offense was clicking especially on the PP I'd have issue with it but McIlrath isn't exactly gonna give you much offense.

E


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:33 pm EST

Dickelitti at ice-level. Better there because less of his nauseating voice.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:32 pm EST

Nash came to play. At least for now.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:31 pm EST

No pk for Nash weknow

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:31 pm EST

Looks like Girardi got himself a couple of B 12 injections......

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:29 pm EST

Kenny Albert on the MSG feed. Better than Nosen and his stupid yuk-yuks with Dickelitti.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:28 pm EST

Nash gets the goal ? Stop playing him on the ok so he can maybe he can double shift and score more

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:24 pm EST

Got Sam and Dave on the radio ... Soul men

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:22 pm EST

So it's Diaz for Glass and Girardi for Boyle.......

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:22 pm EST

Weknow is a genius

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:21 pm EST

GIRARDI... upping his trade value..........

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:21 pm EST

Girardi 1-0

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:20 pm EST

Oh good we're the only game this afternoon...I'm guessing 4-1 Pens.

WIOSA


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:20 pm EST

Big Mac played in 34 games but was also injured for a while ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:18 pm EST

Does AV have somewhere important to be in May? How does he not once return to the lineup that Won once this series? Goes to the Dress 7 D well for a elimination game? Because that worked so well the only other time has tried it, nearly a year ago? Sigh. The man is asking to be fired, imo. HOSPO - hope things are ok. Cheers.

LeoS


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:16 pm EST

FUCK YOU AV !!!!!!

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:15 pm EST

OK.......Dressing Girardi AND Diaz. I am officially boarding the Fire AV bus. This guy has lost his mind. I have no doubt that they are going out today. If they don't I will be completely shocked. Free McIlrath. Fire AV or trade Big Mac.

Bob


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:15 pm EST

I am beyond pissed off.....like many of you.....the ultimate diss to McIlrath....Diaz and Girardi dress for today.

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:15 pm EST

Diaz is better than Boyle ?... Game 7 vs tampaons redux?

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:15 pm EST

7 D? How'd that work against Tampa last year? LOL. I guess Diaz will get PP time only.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:15 pm EST

You wouldn't see Big Mac if they were dressing 8 defensemen!

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:14 pm EST

Desperate coaches do desperate things ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:13 pm EST

Glass is out

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:13 pm EST

Glass is out

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:12 pm EST

Dressing 7 dmen and still no McI.....disgraceful.

jratelle19


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:12 pm EST

Marc Staal-Ryan McDonagh Keith Yandle- Shea_ girardi

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:12 pm EST

They are dressing 7 d including Diaz

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:10 pm EST

#NYR Nash-Brass-Zucc Kreider-Stepan-Fast Lindberg-EStaal-Miller Glass-Moore-stalberg

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:10 pm EST

If AV stays on as coach, McI should ask for a trade this off-season. And then when he returns to MSG, run a bunch of Rangers. I'd love to see that.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:03 pm EST

I believe Girardi is in for Boyle

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 23 2016 2:00 pm EST

AV should be fired for his use, or lack thereof, of Dylan. I guess big, heavy shot young defenseman aren;t needed in AV's playoffs. Schmuck...

Tucc


Sat Apr 23 2016 1:59 pm EST

Possible landing spot for Girardi? Quick review of Ottawa's D men. 7 of their 8 are LHS. Chris Wideman who played 64 games & averaged approx 14 minutes per game is their only RHS Dman.....

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 1:59 pm EST

Diaz in for Boyle. That's thinking outside the box. What a joke.

stepunmytoe


Sat Apr 23 2016 1:47 pm EST

Boyle out today, looks like Diaz is playing. No Big Mac

RDW


Sat Apr 23 2016 1:30 pm EST

KIS, I hear you... I threw it out here because whether you're for or against, it's going to be a topic on the Wall....... Personally, I'm currently wondering what it might take to land DUCHENE, and what it may take to land EBERLE..

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 1:17 pm EST

Mf. And everybody else. I have been a big stamkos fan for a while. It will be a huge mistake to sign that guy. Don't do it

KIS


Sat Apr 23 2016 12:29 pm EST

Freeing up sufficient salary-cap space will be a significant factor. It could cost around $11-million annually on a seven-year deal to sign him. With only $9.8 million in salary-cap space for 2016-17, the Canadiens currently cannot afford him.

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 12:28 pm EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/rumor-roundup-is-friendship-with-p-k-subban-enough-to-lure-steven-stamkos-to-montreal/

mf


Sat Apr 23 2016 11:22 am EST

Hospo...all ok my friend ??

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:44 am EST

Watching the other series' , we have one of the least physical defenses in the league and it's about to get softer today. Good luck Hank. Starting to think there is a rift between AV and Management over Mac. Let's hope so. This coach is nuts.

stepunmytoe


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:30 am EST

Sometimes the real world smacks you in the face and puts the Rangers in perspective. Have been out of touch and didn't see Game 4 till this AM....What a diasaster, embarassment and disgrace...I feel bad for all my fellow ranger fans...Unfortunaely, Everything that I fel would happen (actually continue to happen) at the beginning of the sries has done just that...I'll go into AV and the players at some ;later point but I would love to see some sense of pride and professionalism today, a rising up of heart, guts and chemistry for just one victory..not a noble effort, but a damn win!...

Hospo


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:10 am EST

I vote to sacrifice the next 2 seasons, in order to set up another nice 4-5 year run. Cut dead weight, acquire draft picks, draft & develop. Stockpile Size, Speed & Skill. Build from the net out &, up the middle. Period. It's our best chance at the next Cup.

hipcheck


Sat Apr 23 2016 9:00 am EST

Evers - couldn't agree w/ your post more. I have never been as disinterested w/ a Ranger team in recent memory as I have with this group. It just hasn't been there all year. What I'd like to see happen....1. Fire this stubborn, hard headed and ineffectual coach. The players have quit on him anyway. 2. Trade G, Nash, Hayes, and possibly McD (not my type of captain and if he can land us Edm.'s #1 pick you do it). 3. If Edmonton gets the #1 pick throw the sink at it. I'd give up McD, Nash, Brass/Step or combination therof. 4. Go real hard after Stamkis and clear cap space to do so( let guys walk, trades, etc.) 5. Bring in Buch next year. Our top 6 offense needs an overhaul and you need to give to get. We can score. I'm encouraged by Skjei and Mac. Trad from strengths and give up some of those assets to get O. Btw, this team is toast and will be golfing after game 5. I'm sure that's not news to anyone here. Anyhow, that's my two cents

NCRanger


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:32 am EST

Sorry but I almost hope that idiot dresses Diaz and pairs him with Boyle. It'll be, I hope, the last roster decision that man makes as coach of the NY Rangers.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:31 am EST

LB ripping AV for his dislike of McI and adoration of Boyle today. Kudos to him. All legitimate IMO.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:21 am EST

how can this genius consider putting capt fugitive on the pp....he can't shoot or pass.....Andrew Gross ‎@AGrossRecord On the power play (1 for 16 in series) today McDonagh-Yandle, Kreider-Stepan-EStaal Diaz-Boyle, Nash-Brassard-Zuccarello

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:18 am EST

BTW, if Gorton does entertain the notion of moving the King I suspect it'll have to happen this off-season because with expansion looming, good goalies will soon become available, glutting the market because teams will only be able to protect one. Pittsburgh, for example, will have to decide between Fleury and Murray. The Ducks have 2 starters, too.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:12 am EST

The King for one of the Finnish goalies, the big Russian winger and a first??

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 8:11 am EST

Would the King consider a move to Dallas? Now there's a team that could use him and arguably are positioned to be a cup contender over the next couple of years. The Rangers would surely have to take one of their Finnish goalies back, which is fine - it might help the Stars swallow the King's salary. Just musing here, of course. After all the Rangers, especially if Diaz is dressed, could win today.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 7:55 am EST

That trade was the 13th overall pick, Martin Jones (who ended up in SJ and helped beat his former squad) and Colin Jones. For a one year rental of an over-rated thug. LOLOLOL. That's worse than anything Sather ever did.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 7:45 am EST

Brent Burns apparently had a phenomenal series...

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 7:44 am EST

Here's a stupid trade for you: A first for Milan Lucic! LOLOLOLOLOL. This looks soooooooo good on the LA Kings - a bunch of suckhole thugs. Good riddance! LOLOLOLOL.

RF4L


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:50 am EST

Is there any doubt in what carp means in that quote about tortorella? ... Veengottogo.... He's a good coach but like tom Hayden he's not a wartime consigliere....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:40 am EST

York I think what you have said this year is true but the players haven't really admitted it to themselves and their teammates....they have quit on this coach....the lack of effort proves that, even though their instinct is to win....the biggest joke has been the pp, and this season the pk.....there is no doubt in my mind that this team has the talent to win it all. I believe they are being misled by a coaching staff, and a selfish captain, who just don't understand what it takes to win 16 games.....OLA I'll take 4 Zuccs on this team, 1 on each line. ....they need to put back the same lineup as last Saturday and play exactly the same way as they did in that game.....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:27 am EST

"These look more like the 2013 Rangers, who at least put down Washington after trailing 2-0 and 3-2 in that first-round series before going out quietly to Boston – with a roster so decimated that series-winning goal was scored with the rogues gallery of Roman Hamrlik, Steve Eminger, Derek Dorsett, Micheal Haley and Kris Newbury on the ice. A loss that led to a mutiny and the firing of coach John Tortorella, who had done so much with much less than these Rangers have. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/22/doomed-rangers-hope-to-play-another-day/#sthash.NVR8wPB0.dpuf

stevielegs


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:25 am EST

Stevie thing is you don't want guys taking longer than 45 seconds especially when. Pinned in their own zone because they are usually tired at that point. I said the other day for all the size added this team does zero cycling down low and board work. They aren't forcing the D to work and tire defending the cycle off the boards. Again another folly by AV.

York18


Sat Apr 23 2016 6:03 am EST

Brooks saying AV is contemplating having Boyle AND Diaz in the lineup today? God help us.

stepunmytoe


Sat Apr 23 2016 1:45 am EST

LAK is out, where not they supposed to be unbeatable thanks to their size? I haven't followed the POs that much, but I recon the smurfs (Johnson, Kucherov, Killorn and do) in Tampa haven't done anything this spring? Last year was just a fluke, you must be big and heavy to play in he NHL play offs.

Ola


Fri Apr 22 2016 11:29 pm EST

How many shots from behind the net!

DREW


Fri Apr 22 2016 11:28 pm EST

When the islanders beat Tampa bay, I'm going to get " the islanders did what the Rangers couldn't". This is going to be a bad weekend and summer - islanders looked too good on D

DREW


Fri Apr 22 2016 11:24 pm EST

Panthers looked pretty good in OT but took two penalties in 2nd OT which killed them.

NYStranger


Fri Apr 22 2016 11:19 pm EST

Islanders just won in OT. Bad day

DREW


Fri Apr 22 2016 9:37 pm EST

I'm always on here but I don't post much. This team is not right. Just something about it. I have a feeling that AV is coaching one of his last games as,a RANGER coach. I love this team and always have, but changes are necessary.

ref24


Fri Apr 22 2016 9:32 pm EST

And the amount of attempts it takes them to get the puck out if their zone is close to absurd . It's a big deal now when they make a stretch pass. And all of them are hesitating with the puck then telegraphing their intention. There is way too much thinking not enough instinct.

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 9:28 pm EST

York whatever length the coach wants their shifts to be is fine but valliquette was talking about a site that clocks possession time and the nyr are about 1/3 . And to me most of their time is spent in their own end. It's a big deal this year when they spend 30 seconds in the o zone . The smurf cycle game did better than what they are doing now. They are on defense way too much of the time, especially in their own end. It's like they have come back to safe is death. And they look like they are willing to die.

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 9:02 pm EST

How frustrated are Washington fans right now? LOL pretty much dominate the game but can not get one by Neuvirth...

NYStranger


Fri Apr 22 2016 9:02 pm EST

I dislike the Flyers but they are at 3-2 now

rngrsans


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:12 pm EST

I haven't been a huge fan of this team throughout the year. My heart just hasn't been with this team as it has with teams of years past. Therefore, I'm already looking to the offseason and what I'd like to see the Rangers do. FREE AGENTS THE RANGERS SHOULD LET WALK: Dominic Moore, Dan Boyle. FREE AGENTS THE RANGERS SHOULD RESIGN: Victor Stalberg, Eric Staal (only at a very reasonable price), Kieth Yandle, Anti Raanta. PLAYERS WHO SHOULD BE MOVED: Rick Nash, Kevin Hayes (while he still has some value), Dan Girardi. FREE AGENTS: The Rangers need to go hard after Stamkos if he's available. If they can sign him, they can move one of Stepan or Brassard for a good young scoring forward. Jamie McGinn would also be an excellent acquisition in the offseason. I'd be eccstatic going into next season with the following down the middle Stamkos, Stepan/Brassard, Staal, Lindberg... and the following on defense: McDonagh, Klein, Staal, Yandle, Skjei, McIlrath. Perhaps this is a bit too premature with a do-or-die game five coming up tomorrow, but after that last debacle, I'm looking for something to cling to...

evets1980


Fri Apr 22 2016 7:49 pm EST

Stevie clock other players outside of the PP rarely do players take more than. 45 seconds this one min shift thing is fantasy doesn't happen 5 on 5 unless a player gets trapped.

York18


Fri Apr 22 2016 7:29 pm EST

Anyone watching islanders vs panthers? Greiss looks really sharp.

DREW


Fri Apr 22 2016 6:49 pm EST

If these teams : Islanders, Capitals, Penguins Flyers, Lightning, Kings, Ducks, Blackhawks do NOT win the Stanley Cups.....then the Rangers demise this season will sting slightly less.

TradeStar28


Fri Apr 22 2016 6:29 pm EST

nys look at this....http://dqmt5fo24ucpe.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/22024321/empty-msg.jpg

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 6:20 pm EST

Yeah stevie this is not LA....no Cup! I feel a big problem with the Rangers management is that this team is not run as a hockey team. As in a seperate entity, but under the umbrella of the MSG corporation. Therefore IMO I think most big moves are scrutinized not by strickly hockey sense but by how it will effect the overall MSG business. Not saying every move but any big name moves. That is why IMO we see so few marquee name traded AWAY for picks/prospects/young NHLers. All about filling corporate seats. And TV ratings....

NYStranger


Fri Apr 22 2016 5:33 pm EST

RF: I was trying to justify this with limited statistical data but on its surface I see 2-fundamental issues. 1. They don't draw nearly enough penalties. And in the post season their PP has been atrocious. For as much as we can complain about an inability to get off the wall and to the net for second efforts I really believe their special teams kills them. Sucks the momentum out of the room. And when you don't see to do the dirty work to draw them? That speaks more to me then their inability 5 on 5.

E


Fri Apr 22 2016 4:28 pm EST

i don't think this is the ny version of la.....there's more to this story.....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 4:11 pm EST

E: True, but the top 6 cannot score enough. It was a big part of their loss to LA 2 springs ago and easily the biggest reason they got bounced by Tampa last year. Think of this: The last 4 home PO games this team has scored a grand total of 1 goal. If that doesn't highlight the single biggest problem with this team, I don't know what does. Nash was supposed to help and he has, but not to the extent I'm sure Sather was anticipating. MSL was supposed to be the missing piece and we all know how that went. This year, it was supposed to be the maturation of Kreider and to a lesser extent Miller. Guess what? Kreider seems to have leveled out offensively and we saw a nice little run from Miller (and coincidentally, that's when the Rangers probably had their best stretch of hockey) and he fall back. There's nothing on the horizon, either, unless Buch somehow becomes an instant star and IMO counting on that and only tinkering because of that is a HUGE and probably foolish risk. I think the chickens are starting to come and roost - a really really nice run but the course has reached its end. It's up to Gorton to realize that and respond accordingly. It would be nice to see a guy in charge with some insight and foresight and guts to do the right thing(s). We'll see.

RF4L


Fri Apr 22 2016 4:03 pm EST

RF, I really don't know. I don't think the team is rotten to the core. I also don't think they have enough playoff producing talent. And I don't think they have enough snarl. And I don't think the bottom-6 has been impressive sans Staal and Stalberg who both came to play. Moore looks like he's empty. Glass does what Glass does but his skills make him so limited. I really think their bottom-6 has been ugly. I mean they put McIlrath up there. It's that bad!

E


Fri Apr 22 2016 4:02 pm EST

E – The Rangers-Pens is easily the worst, most uninspired hockey the playoffs have to offer outside of watching the Caps beat the ever living piss out of Philly. And at least that has the Flyers usual goon antics. This series? Both teams absolutely suck. Just the Rangers suck more than the Pens. There isn’t even any passion in either team. The scrums are pathetic. Closest this series had to a pulse was last Saturday.

tdchi


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:58 pm EST

E: That's possible but IMO, it's deeper than that. A minor retool which is really not much more than tinkering, IMO won't get it done.

RF4L


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:53 pm EST

Somewhat unrelated, if you are looking for the best series this round it is by far the Los Angeles Kings v. SJ. The greatest drama has been the Blues v. The Hawks. The east hasn't been as intense so far.

E


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:50 pm EST

I can grab on to a few examples from the west. Chicago has given some pushback but the reality has been that they've just struggled against the Blues. San Jose just collapsed down the stretch last season. The Los Angeles Kings just seemed to never get going last season. They just sputtered along but something was missing. I just think that some teams get to a place where they hit the wall. Years of high end hockey has a ceiling. And that might be what has been up with the New York Rangers. This season has been very erratic. I think they lived the majority of the season off of the glow of their first 1/3 of the seasons success. However post all-star they were just pretty average. So. If that is to be their fate then summer can't come soon enough... That stated, back against the wall the New York Rangers are often at their best.

E


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:49 pm EST

40 to 90 is a big difference...i think 60 is where they should be....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:48 pm EST

tdchi they try to play fancy instead of dirty hockey...that's a big mistake....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:44 pm EST

Stevie guys don't take 90 second shifts in this league they just don't

York18


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:32 pm EST

E/stevielegs/York – I don’t think it’s conditioning at all. It’s all in the execution. You can’t play a game like this team did on Saturday last week and be out of shape. It’s just impossible. They have it in them, but they’re a dangerous combination of stupid, disinterested, unmotivated and arrogant. I stress this last piece, because when a guy like Dom MOORE is doing spin-o-ramas not once, not twice, but EVERY TIME HE ENTERS THE ZONE…well…that says a lot about what they think they can do. And I bring up Moore not to knock him…I think he’s one of the guys who regularly gives 110 percent…but more as an example. Clearly, he’s not the type of player to do that kind of move, much less on a team where he’s playing fourth line. But that’s where we’re at with the Rangers. A whole lot of players trying for the million-dollar move, the perfect pass, the tic-tac-toe play and not enough of them playing meat and potatoes. YANDLE is another. The guy can carry it into the zone with the best of them and he’s got a LASER for a shot. But what does he do? Pass. 90 percent of the time, it’s a pass. Even when there is no pass, he passes. About the only guy who goes to the net any more no-frills style is KREIDER and occasionally Eric STAAL. Everyone else wants to hit three passes before going to the net. Mind you, I think that style would go rather nicely if they had a real mucker-grinder line…Like the days when we had PRUST-BOYLE-FEDOTENKO…we had that, this team would be breezing through the first round. But instead, we have a bunch of cocky guys who think they’re too cool for school. They’re about to get the same rude awakening the Kings did after winning the cup.

tdchi


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:30 pm EST

York it takes them 20 seconds or more to get up the ice...I've watched Nash run back to the bench as the puck is put into the o zone....whether it's him or the coach, it seems like he's constantly looking to get off the ice....and their d zone play trying to clear the zone is atrocious....puck possession has been fairly poor .....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:22 pm EST

Probably 48 hours too early to be speaking about next season, because you never do know…but the key now with the Rangers is to cut the dead weight and refocus the team. I can tell these guys have a very inflated impression of their talent and their ability, because it shows in how they play…First and foremost, the guy to send packing at the end of the year is Rick NASH and there are four reasons for it. First is that he’s never been a good fit here. Second, his cap hit. Third, he’s the one player on their roster they could probably move and MAYBE…just MAYBE get into the first round. Fourth reason is that you need a spot in the top six for BUCHNEVICH, who, incidentally, plays the right side…Second guy to move is YANDLE. Again, a poor fit. As talented as he is, he needs to be on a team with finishers. And the Rangers aren’t that team, so get a third rounder for his negotiating rights. Shouldn’t be hard. Flyers got a third rounder for the rights to HAMHUIS a few years back…Next, offer up BRASSARD and/or HAYES…Sorry, but Brass is just too inconsistent for my liking…See if Eric STAAL wants to come back for $4 million per and be our second-line center…no? OK. Have fun elsewhere. No biggie…Take a stab at signing Drake CAGGIULLA and Jim VESEY. Don’t sign? No biggie. Pick up BU’s Ahti OKSANEN instead…Pull GIRARDI aside and lay this on the line: You’re going to be third pairing and this is your last contract in New York. If he wants to stay after that? Fine. If not, tell him to waive his NTC. Ask Marc if he wants to follow his brother…with all this shuffling, pull Ryan HARTMAN out of Chicago. See if you can con the Hawks into giving up Tyler MOTTE too…but most of all, STAY AWAY FROM THE UFA MARKET…fill the vacancies of departing veterans and UFAs with guys who have a spine and want it. Get rid of AV and let GERNANDER take the helm. Bet if you let some of these guys who have played a season or two in Hartford fill the ranks of the lower two you’d see a much improved team…Rangers would have to dumb down their game, but that’s what they need to do. This isn’t 1990s and they’re not the Red Wings...

tdchi


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:13 pm EST

Stevie how long of a shift do you want them to have? 40 seconds is about right anything at a minute or more is grounds for a benching unless the other team is pinned in and you're slamming them with shots and scoring chances.

York18


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:11 pm EST

E maybe Stevie is right maybe it is fitness they seem so tired and slow down quickly something they never do is it mental or is it fitness I don't know. You think this is like the year the kings hit the wall and bounced back? I'm not getting that feeling. I also don't get that they can and will battle back this series season you just don't get that victory or death vibe from this team.

York18


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:08 pm EST

Stevie: my theory just really has to do with two things 1. Team dynamic. 2. They've just played a lot of hockey at a high level and it's a down year. I just think they've hit the wall and on this season they're gonna have to take a mulligan. This team has played more playoff games then any other in recent seasons. Or so I read. Whatever that "it" is, it's disappeared at least for the moment. But, I really don't think it's a wholesale change scenario. It's a retool for next season and get back at it. And mind you, I'm not writing and obituary on the NYR yet. They've pulled some real miracles from their asses in the past. But this time it "feels" different.

E


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:06 pm EST

on top of that they seem to play short shifts 40-60 seconds, and they are changing, regardless of what's going on with the puck....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 2:56 pm EST

E they have sure played tired lazy hockey......this team does not practice enough, probably because the coach thinks they are tired...instead he has meetings....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 2:53 pm EST

Stevie: you saw fitness as an issue???

E


Fri Apr 22 2016 2:51 pm EST

VIc do you even know what you're posting some time in 93-94 the players ran the locker room? Keenan ran that team with a whip and an attitude messier led on the ice no doubt be did lead in the locker room but make no mistake Keenan ran that ship till the playoffs. AV is surprised by last game and it hasn't happened before???? I guess AV was on snooze all season cone to think of it he probably is sleeping during games he's propped up on a conveyor belt and a stick to just look awake.

York18


Fri Apr 22 2016 2:51 pm EST

MF: Here is the answer to your question: (http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/why-shane-doan-is-the-pickup-truck-of-power-forwards/)

Vic


Fri Apr 22 2016 2:49 pm EST

put MSL as conditioning and off season coach...he knows how to stay in shape....hire Valliquette to be the coach in the sky box....there are plenty of moves fishboy can make....without destroying the core of this TEAM.... with it has not really been this season....he has 2 good young d ready for next season....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 2:21 pm EST

26) Some stuff from the lockerroom … Alain Vigneault: “It’s definitely out of character for this group to come up with this type of performance. I don’t think it was lack of will, we just picked a very bad night to have a very bad game. Right now, all we can focus on is getting back to work tomorrow and that’s what we’re going to do. …“This is definitely a team loss. I am not going to single out one individual. As a whole group, we had a hard time and the results went accordingly.” 27) Ryan McDonagh: “At this point, there is no reason or point to try and describe what happened. We weren’t ourselves out there. We weren’t playing up to our potential and the way that’s necessary for us to have a chance to win a game, but it’s behind us. [There’s] nothing we can do about it now. We learn from it, we’ll watch tape, we’ll continue to prepare like we normally do. Obviously we know what our situation is, our season’s on the line here. We have to believe in each other in the room. That’s all it takes. No one is going to get out of this hole that we’ve created but the guys in the room, so that has to be our focus. Everyone has to prepare as best as they can to go out and play to their strength as best as they can to help us win a game.” 28) More McDonagh, who said that the goal is “to win a Stanley Cup here. It’s never a good feeling when you lose a game and they’re taking away your opportunities out there, trying to win a Cup. There’s no point in trying to break it down right now. It’s tough after a game. We’ve got to put it behind us real quick here, refocus and get ready to go out and execute better.” - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/22/game-4-rangers-penguins-in-review-2/#sthash.CwJRzVlz.dpuf

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 2:14 pm EST

Vic: Add IGINLA to that list.... Is DOAN a fitness freak?

mf


Fri Apr 22 2016 2:10 pm EST

Here is some other food for thought. I caught most of an interview with TIKI BARBER on Fox and Friends this morning. The topic was something to do with MICHAEL JORDAN saying that TIGER WOODS wanted to retire. In the discussion BARBER talked about his own career as well. What he talked about that I found the most interesting was that he said something to the effect that as professional athletes (especially great players) get older they start to drop off not only because of physical aging, but also because they lose their desire/ability to train as hard as they used to, and even harder as their advancing age requires. He said that was the end of the road for him as well. He couldn't train like he needed to anymore and he knew it was over. As I thought about it I thought about the guys who continue to play well into advanced age in today's NHL and all of them that I can recall were workout freaks. MSL, JAGR, etc. I think there is a lot to that. Most NHL superstars are a shadow of their former selves by their late 20s these days. The speed and the physical requirements of the NHL today coupled with aging and the issues BARBER talked about all lead to that. Some are able to maintain productivity but it is rare. The workout freaks and the guys who are able to adapt and change their game to continue to be productive are the exception, not the rule.

Vic


Fri Apr 22 2016 1:57 pm EST

MF: Every team needs veterans. The questions are: Which ones? In which roles?, how many? and how much can you afford to spend on them?

Vic


Fri Apr 22 2016 1:48 pm EST

VIC: The Rangers are ALSO being beat by guys like Hornqvist, Cullen, & Fehr, but those three don't fit the youth model...

mf


Fri Apr 22 2016 1:26 pm EST

How come just about all teams trade aging vets for assets. ..except the NY Rangers?

NYStranger


Fri Apr 22 2016 1:24 pm EST

LOL Victoria. ..auto correct at its best! ;-)

NYStranger


Fri Apr 22 2016 1:20 pm EST

E: IMO, Gorton has to go deeper. First, Sather tried the collegiate UFA route and nary a single one of those signings has become a Ranger. There's a reason those kids never get drafted - most simply aren't good enough. Second, I believe he needs to cut into the core. Despite his underwhelming stats, I'd like to see E Staal resigned but at a much reduced rate. That means one of Stepan or Brassard can be moved and I elect for the former, but more because his contract is too high. Nash should be shopped, too. Finally, I'm serious about the King - if he's open to being moved, Gorton needs to explore it.

RF4L


Fri Apr 22 2016 1:15 pm EST

BTW FWIW I'm of the opinion that if the coach had addressed (or at least tried to address) the lack of effort from multiple individuals in so many games during the regular season, we'd not be watching our team get embarrassed by their opening PO round opponent to nearly the same extent. Am I saying they'd have the series locked up now? No, there's no way of knowing. But the effort we saw last night from so many players we saw time and time again all season long and the coach never reacted, other than pressboxing McI and Hayes. He kept trotting out the same uninspired veterans regardless of their efforts and the games' outcomes. It was a fool's game to really believe all that crap would go away come game 1 series 1. The same crap the coach let go unaddressed is what's hurt them against the Penguins.

RF4L


Fri Apr 22 2016 1:01 pm EST

it's a lot easier to change the coaches, than breaking up a team that has contended for the last 5 years, and many have and are growing up together.....fishboy has his hands full with the cap, signing, and trading before this mess was made by weknow this season. ...it has to be addressed this off season.....need a different clean slate.....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 12:43 pm EST

Victoria who is giving Sather/Gorton a free pass? Most here have been screaming fire Sather for well on 15 years...but the more immediate problem is the players and coach. This pattern has already happened in Van. Which led to his firing. Why continental to fall into the same pattern and waste another year of the same hoping things will change come next year's playoffs.

NYStranger


Fri Apr 22 2016 12:36 pm EST

Ola: Backes has 4 points in the last 5 games vs Chicago. 2g's, 2a's, +2.... UFA after this season, cost you nothing but Dolanopoly Money. Lets see how the situation unfolds, may be worth kicking the tires... IMO ... http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?3502#

mf


Fri Apr 22 2016 12:25 pm EST

gorton fishboy has to start with giving gernander and his crew the job, and let them talk about who stays and who has to go. and what type of players and system he wants......just the fact of weknow playing capt fugitive parmenter who cannot pass or shot is grounds enough....they won on Saturday, leave the same lineup in...but oh not tinker tailor.....instead lose the next 2 in disgraceful fashion.....real leadership from the coach and the captain....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 12:24 pm EST

This team is not going to completely be put onto the campfire and burned to the ground. They will need to retool. But they will need to retool on the fly. This is where it gets tricky because they do have a hole in their development system with very little inexpensive help coming. The NYR will have to invest very heavily on NCAA talent that either won't sign or is a free agent. They can do that. They are an attractive destination. They will likely let some of the big contracts expire and get rid of some of that dead weight. More or less do something like SJ did or the Blues may do. Just rebuild the depth around the core and continue to develop their young assets and continue letting their veterans matriculate out. Things are not all that bad in NYR'land with the roster. Perhaps it could be argued that they need to become a more grinding and physical presence given the types of forwards they have. In other words, for lack of a better analogy they need to be a lot more E. Staal and less Brad Richards. But would you really see that much change to the top-6? Miller, Step, MZA, CK, Brass, and Nash are pretty set. I'm not certain which side Buch plays but I don't see him cracking the top-6. Admittedly, I'd love to see a team deep enough to drop either CK or Miller to the bottom-6. Right now, who will be back for the bottom-6? I think Quickie and Lindberger are the only players signed going into next season. Klein I think is a guy they wanna keep. Outside of that? You've got Skjei and McIlrath likely as a full time at this stage. So, if you can bury G's salary, trade him and eat some money, or even try to bring him back with reduced role that perhaps drives up his value if he wants to waive to go somewhere but he could be your only potential odd man out. But I just cannot see this team making any earthshaking moves. Just doesn't look like they have A. the latitude to do something B. The space. I would like to see Stalberg brought back and Hayes sent far away. One intriguing name that the guys at NHL Sirius were all in on I wrote on a post it a while back was this kid: Shine. Matt Barnaby gushed about this kid being a very good skater, and a punishing physical presence, with the ability to get under the skin. Precisely what I think the NYR need lots of right now. Agitating player who can actually play regular shifts.

E


Fri Apr 22 2016 12:11 pm EST

tdchi spot on! I HATE boyle, yandle, and nash. brass can be good but too often is a non-factor.

Topovski


Fri Apr 22 2016 12:00 pm EST

Filling holes likely will mean no POs next year anyways. Best initiate a comprehensive retool.

RF4L


Fri Apr 22 2016 10:56 am EST

Beaten by a better team while going all out? Fine. Shockingly inept and passionless performance like last night? Unacceptable. Uneven effort all season. The coach AND players are culpable.

Bob


Fri Apr 22 2016 10:15 am EST

And one last note: I was equally nauseated by the verbal handjob Sam and Dickaletti were giving the Pens. Had to wonder whether these guys have watched any of the other playoff games. The level of compete is just infinitely higher than with this series. As lame as the Rangers have been, Pittsburgh hasn’t been much better. Really, this series amounts to a ‘who’s gonna out-suck who.’ Rangers out-sucked thrice. Pittsbugh once. Look at literally any of the other series going on, save for maybe the Caps-Philly, and you see impassioned hockey. Say what you will about Detroit, but they at least gave 110 percent against Tampa. And the Isles-Panthers? No defense there…but the compete level is through the roof…whatever team advances from this one is going to get creamed.

tdchi


Fri Apr 22 2016 10:12 am EST

Let's face it, The NYR aren't going to give up on the playoffs. All Dolan really cares about is making money. Keeping that in mind, it leaves you with only 2 real choices: You retool or you fill holes. I vote for taking the retool route. I would start by signing Steven Stamkos. Not only is he one of the top players in the league, but he's also one of the best leaders in the game. You want to change the culture of this team? Start there. That would give you a top six of Stamkos, Buchnevich, Kreider, Brassard, Zuccarello and Miller. Trade Nash, Stepan, Hayes, Girardi and Staal. It's a lot of turnover, but it gives Gorton a chance to put his mark on this team.

Rhet0ric


Fri Apr 22 2016 10:11 am EST

Saving the best for last: Alain VIGNEAULT. Man, is this guy thick or what? Seriously, I’m not going to say Kevin HAYES has been a picture-perfect player…but seriously…benching him and playing GLASS? And another thing: If there wasn’t a direct correlation before, there is now: The Rangers play a MUCH tougher game with McILRATH in the lineup. How a fool like BOYLE keeps getting minutes over him is beyond me. I understand playing the one-handed captain, but Boyle? My hope was that he’d get better in the playoffs, but he’s actually been worse…At any rate, AV is looking suspiciously like he’s ran his course…this team is in need of a retool this summer and it starts with ditching many of their big contracts. I still believe the best way to build a winner is to build within, and given what we have in the pipeline, that’s going to take time…but in the interim, we might as well can AV and promote someone who actually bleeds Ranger blue, and that’s GERANANDER. I’d love to see how this team would react under his leadership, because I know about half of them have had him as a coach. No doubt about it, there is a character problem with this team and AV ain’t the guy to address it. I’ll reserve final judgment until Saturday, but it ain’t looking good at this point.

tdchi


Fri Apr 22 2016 9:28 am EST

JFC: Yep, I agree. YORK: The only time the Rangers have won the Cup in all of our lifetimes it was done with the players running the room. This team clearly doesn't have the leadership in the locker room that you need to have to win. Is that AV's fault or is it GORTON/SATHER's fault? RF: I'm not saying that I'm against the thought of replacing AV. What I'm saying is that a lot of folks here have this fantasy that if the Rangers had a different coach they would be on the brink of winning the Cup this year. I believe that is absurd.

Vic


Fri Apr 22 2016 9:28 am EST

I’ve been an optimist about this team all season long, and the reason being that the Rangers have amassed an IMMENSE amount of young talent on one squad. And it’s not just talent. It’s battle-tested talent. But with 85 games done this season –and a season that was rife with piss-poor play –I lose my marbles when I see an effort like last night. I expended more energy getting angry at the team than the entire roster AND coaching staff put into last night’s game. Now since the list of ghosts from last night is too long to list, I’ll just list the two guys who actually put in effort and played the game they needed to play: SKJEI, RAANTA and LINDBERG. Period. Everyone else –LITERALLY EVERYONE –stunk. From the goalie out. EVERY SINGLE HIGH-PAID PLAYER ON THIS TEAM SUCKED. Start from the highest paid and move down. The formula to beat Pittsburgh is so F@CKING simple that I’m banging my head on the wall wondering why Frenchie can’t goddamn see it. Here’s what you do: Play the body. Beat the snot out of them. Dump and chase. Get shots on net. Do those three things and Pittsburgh crumbles. In the event the expected happens, the Pens will get absolutely CREAMED by Washington because the Caps are a team that CAN simplify their game –even though their roster is filled with talent…Now to hand out some razzies. F@CK LUNDQVIST. Never in his career have I said these words, but too often now he’s letting in goals that he shouldn’t He let in at least three stinkers last night. Conor F’in SHEARY? Really? This is the guy who used to win games in the shootout and he can stop an undrafted AHLer? Really? I’m sick and tired of looking at the daggers Hank throws after being yanked. Bud, it’s on you. Pull your flow out of your ass and start remembering why we pay you…YANDLE…I was no fan of DUCLAIR, but man, I’d do just about anything to reverse that trade now. The guy has rocks for brains. ROCKS. Every time he has an open shot…and he gets A LOT of them…he passes. He could be on a breakaway on an empty net and he’d still pass. The minute this season ends, he should be moved for anything we can get. I’d trade him to Boston for a third-rounder…Eric STAAL…this guy is getting $8 mill? The guy can stickhandle…but after that? He wants to come back, he better take half the pay he’s getting now…BRASSARD…Here’s another guy whose time has come. More dreck from the worthless Columbus pipeline. The guy can be so much or so little. I’d move him the F out of here because if you can only show up for one game out of four in a best of 7 series, you’re worthless…Rick NASH…just as everyone is singing his praises for his shorty…he busts out a performance like last night. TRADE HIM NOW. Dom MOORE…guy, I love you. Always been a fan. And you’re a class act…but eventually you have to realize that your goddamn spinorama move that you do LITERALLY EVERY TIME YOU ENTER THE ZONE? It doesn’t work well…Tanner GLASS…Honeymoon is over, bud. No amount of lipstick on this pig is going to change that. Dan BOYLE…I’m counting the days to your retirement. The worst signing we’ve had on D since Krapa.

tdchi


Fri Apr 22 2016 9:04 am EST

VIC leadership starts with the coach and leaving your locker room to be run by the players is not engaging your team, how many times did he say I thought they were ready, well how the hell would you know when you leave the locker room to the players.

York18


Fri Apr 22 2016 9:03 am EST

york: Of those 3, only McD doesn't come with flaws/question marks. IMO, you'd be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for Girardi given his rapid decline this year and more importantly, that silly contract. Nash's ticket vs his production doesn't match - I believe there's a market out there for him but you'll up that market if you agree to eat say 1/4 to 1/3 of his salary. You said it recently - you'd like him at $3,000,000 less a year. So would, I suspect, several GMs.

RF4L


Fri Apr 22 2016 9:01 am EST

Vic: It's not just about clearing cap space - it's about new blood, too. If the King is willing you don't give him away. I want to get younger and faster and more skilled. And I want a team that isn't afraid to be engaged physically. Tall orders yes, but that should be Gorton's mandate. Oh, and I want a fresh voice and direction and that's why I want AV gone. I agree with you that it's not all his fault, but the consistent lack of effort all season long starts with him. He's done nothing to address it.

RF4L


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:58 am EST

Trade McD GIrardi and Nash and you get young assets back they still have worth NOW

York18


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:57 am EST

JFC or maybe sully isn't running the PP in Pitt? Most head coaches dont

York18


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:57 am EST

VIC I couldn't disagree with you more on so many fronts, first AV losses because he likes his teams to play soft they get bullied when they need to be at their strongest, so yes his system fails. He's a loser for a reason, funny how it's the same reason in two destinations which means HE's the problem. I have always advocated being fast and hard hitting, getting younger well that is another story and you are hypocritical don't trade McD he's the asset that will bring back the most. You say keep him, for what, is this team poised for a cup run again? Trade him while he has a lot of worth and restock with younger faster players. He is getting older and becoming injury prone now is the time to move him before his worth drops. You seem to miss everything essential to coaching which makes me think you may have never coached before. I haven't coached at the college level but I have at the high school level and I learned things, and one was you build your system around your team because you can't turn a duck into a swan. Your system can be run and gun one season but if you lose players you have to evaluate that and realize your current system no matter how well it did for you prior is not going to work this season. AV has failed terribly on that front, you can blame Gorton and Sather all you want while giving AV and Hayes free passes but truth is yes they failed as well to realize that the league adjusted to the Rangers instead of countering with systems other teams got faster and to say Crosby isn't killing the Ranges is a joke he has been an absolute beast with no whining if the Rangers had him right now it would be a different series. Also if the Rangers went with your thinking in 93-94 Keenan wouldn't have been hired and no cup. You bring up why Torts won well like I said a system to fit what you have , AV didn't adjust and actually neither did Torts which is why he had to go. He could have looked a lot like the Pens of today had he let the reigns go a little. Sully is doing what Torts did but utilizing the speed and north south game that Torts refused to take advantage of. Here is a great example Torts dumped and chased when he should have been using speed and stretch passes with his defensive system, while AV should have been dumping and chasing as opposed to trying to use speed and stretch passes that aren't there. Something no one has brought up that shows this team isn't being utilized properly how does size usually beat other teams? Using the boards to your advantage, cycling the pcuk down low, how often have you seen that from this team? Almost not at all, you don't see this team cycling the puck to free up a player any more they look for scoring only on the rush. Another failure by AV, I can wax intellectual with you all day about systems and what could or should be done, the real thing to notice here is NOTHING is being changed or adjusted by AV ALL SEASON which is a failure on his part.

York18


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:56 am EST

Funny how Mike Sullivan was vilified when he was Torts' assistant because he was in charge of the PP and the PP sucked. Yet, he has the Pens PP humming. Maybe....juts maybe....it's the players who do the actual playing and execution...or lack thereof....and it had less to do with Sullivan than it did with the Rangers players. We can blame coaches all we want for failure....and yes, coaches lose there teams' attention and respect and have to go....but the GM and the players that do the actual playing are the ones ultimately responsible when they suck.

JFC31


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:50 am EST

Vic.........everyone's entitled to their opinion .The point is.......this team is a mess ! top to bottom and every where in between. Heads MUST role !

Newfie_Ranger


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:40 am EST

RF: Here's the thing......money doesn't fix this. So what if the Rangers have Cap space by moving guys like NASH, GIRARDI, HANK, etc. (if it were even possible). What can they do with that Cap space? Resign YANDLE? How much of a difference maker has YANDLE been the last two years? I'd rather keep McDONAGH and promote SKJEI. They can resign there own RFA's and that would be helpful, however if we are talking about bringing in UFA's is that really going to help? Again, most of those guys are already over 30 and will cost way more then they produce. It doesn't help the Rangers get younger and faster.

Vic


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:35 am EST

The King and his contract presents another conundrum for Gorton. He's got 5 years at $8,500,000 left on that deal, a deal that takes him to the age of 39. Yikes. It could be as soon as next year or the year after that it becomes an albatross around the organization's neck (similar to what Girardi's has rapidly become). If Gorton believes as I do (that a retool is possible but will take a couple of years) he should approach the King to gain his feelings on moving to another team. If the King is willing and there's a team willing, Gorton should explore it, if only to get out of the last few years of that contract. Just so I'm clear - I'm not blaming the King and screaming that he must be banished from NY; I'm saying explore the possibility. It's on Gorton to explore every avenue possible here.

RF4L


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:33 am EST

BTW, CROSBY and MALKIN are productive in this series but they aren't the guys who are dominating play. They are now in their late 20's and already are a shadow of the players they were 7 years ago when they won the Cup. The Rangers are being dismantled mostly by guys like SHEARY and RUST and to a lesser extent HAGS and KESSEL. They are skating circles around the Rangers. They are beating the Rangers to every lose puck and are applying more pressure then the Rangers can handle. .

Vic


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:26 am EST

....Gorton should approach the King and start re-negotiating the balance of his contract. Then again does that even help in Hockey or do we still get charged the amount from the original deal.Wonder what they're going to do with Girardi......Boyle goes so that helps. Anyway if AV has his shit together he plays McI Saturday instead of Boyle to get the kid some more playoff experience. Very encouraged by the potential of Skjei. I di not think it was possible to be so outplayed in a playoff game at home.

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:25 am EST

NEWFIE: Yes, it is all about Winning the Cup. But here is a quick little mental exercise. Quickly name me all of the coaches that have taken the Rangers to the Finals in the last 20 years? How about naming all of the coaches that have taken the Rangers to the Finals in the last 40 years? Everyone seems to be ready to dismiss that without much of a thought. They believe that this is terrifically talented team being held back by the coach and his system. I see the opposite. I see this as a good team being made better by the coach and his system over the last three years. Yes, the TORTS Rangers got to a Conference Finals but they did so by totally relying on their goaltender and laying 5 guys down in front of the crease to block every shot possible. It wasn't that they were winning because their team was better and more skilled. They were winning despite their team being less talented. AV's teams achieved more then their talent level should have but for different reasons. They used speed and quickness to swarm opponents and skate circles around them. Nowhere was that more evident then last year when they destroyed every one of the big, physical Western Conference teams in their own buildings. But again SATHER and GORTON failed to see what they had and why it was winning. They went in the wrong direction in the off season and at the deadline this year again. But it is so much easier just to blame AV and HITLER (HAYES).

Vic


Fri Apr 22 2016 8:00 am EST

IMO, what we are seeing can be called inevitability. This core has been together successfully for several years and is getting older and slower. It was a core that was never complete - Sather and now Gorton never did get themselves another true top 6 forward (to go along with Nash). It was their downfall in the LA series and became more evident against the Bolts last year. Because the GMs attempted to address that issue via trading picks and prospects, they cut off the lifeblood of a successful organization - adding young cheap skill to the lineup. Now the price is about to be paid. I do believe a retool is possible but 1) it won't happen over 1 summer 2) it'll likely mean a non PO year next year 3) it'll take some astute GMing that will require cutting into some of that core, which takes courage and insight. Move one should be dismissing the coach. AV hasn't forgotten how to coach but it's obvious a new voice and philosophy is needed. A second priority should be seeking to get back in any player move draft picks - they are desperately needed IMO (Rangers will be sitting on their hands until round 3 right now). It is shaping up to be an interesting off-season....

RF4L


Fri Apr 22 2016 7:56 am EST

Vic...........getting those teams to the finals is like taking your date to the Prom and dropping her off..................winning the Cup is all that matters ,not just getting there !

Newfie_Ranger


Fri Apr 22 2016 7:53 am EST

Stevielegs........thank you for making my point clearer...........we went from a Hard-nosed coach to a 'Scotties little softie" .....and it didn't work very well at all ! However ,it's not all on HIS shoulders.............heads gotta role in THAT dressing room..................and I don't care who.

Newfie_Ranger


Fri Apr 22 2016 7:30 am EST

OLA and YORK: That is what some of us have been saying from the beginning. The Rangers needed to get younger, faster, more talented and cheaper. Not older, slower and more expensive. That is how you compete and build a team in the NHL today. I openly reject the notion that AV's style and system can't win the NHL in the playoffs. It got two teams to the Finals. One team lost because its goaltender imploded. The other lost because it couldn't score. But it got there and took three games to OT in the finals with 2 going to double OT despite being outclassed talent wise. So what did the Rangers do. They went out and got older and slower and now they are a lesser team that is being outskated badly in this series. The Rangers look bigger and are playing bigger but what use is that when the other team is skating circles around you and blowing you out in your own building. Again, I lay the blame mostly on SATHER and GORTON. You can blame AV all you like. Another coach isn't going to change anything other then how they lose.

Vic


Fri Apr 22 2016 7:10 am EST

newfi they tried that with Vancouver .how'd that work out?.....how many guys on the nyr have a ring? ....2 boyle and e staal......

stevielegs


Fri Apr 22 2016 6:12 am EST

I know it is futile but I can not help myself from sharing the disappointment that last night was absolutely the most listless, lack of effort in many, many years of viewing play off hockey. It was a disgrace and an embarrassment. The signs were all there (Trading 2 draft picks for a down side name, the King dethroned, a game plan that had been figured out a long time ago, and a totally passive approach to the physical aspects of the game). There are no excuses, this team needs to be altered.

gene_carr


Fri Apr 22 2016 5:52 am EST

Hey, I got a deal to make with STL..........a trade of coaches !

Newfie_Ranger


Fri Apr 22 2016 5:20 am EST

OLA I think what happened here was a shift in the league and the Rangers missed it and instead of staying the course with speed and added size thinking this was what was needed in the playoffs. The reality is the rest of the east looked at the Rangers success the last 5 years and shifted their respective teams to be faster and more creative, the result is what we are watching. Look at the pens they added Kessel and Hags two of the fastest guys in the league this year and you can see the difference.

York18


Fri Apr 22 2016 4:38 am EST

From LB....So where to begin with this fiasco? Where to begin and where to end with this group that etched itself into franchise history with these Games 3 and 4 defeats stretching the overall playoff home losing streak to an unprecedented five games through which the Rangers have been outscored by an aggregate 18-3? Where to begin and where to end with this group that over the last two tournaments has gone those five consecutive games at the Garden without scoring a single, solitary 5-on-5 goal, the streak ballooning to an unfathomable 302:25? Want to start with the specialty teams? Fine by me. Three power-play goals for the Penguins, none for the Rangers. Through four games, Pittsburgh is 7-for-19 on the power play while the Rangers are 0-for-16 with the man-advantage (and 1-for-1 with a two-man advantage). What, you expected the penalty-killing follies to disappear with the start of the playoffs?

RF73


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:44 am EST

Backes? Lucic? Eric Staal? Ladd? Is it those type of players that are having success in the POs? Lifting their teams? Making the players around them better? We do not play good enough hockey with the puck. Little swagger with it. Little creativity. Teams like Tampa and the Islanders are leaving us in the dust in those areas. I think it's important to be clutch and have an edge, no doubt. But without any single doubt I think the core ability a team MUST have right now in this league is the ability to be able to play an offensive game of hockey with the puck and a lot of speed.

Ola


Fri Apr 22 2016 3:40 am EST

I think there is surprisingly little talk about Gorton's decision to get more size and grit to this roster in light of how we look on the ice and especially the other PO series have looked. Speed and skill is really killing it out there. We look, scratch that, are very very flat.

Ola


Fri Apr 22 2016 12:46 am EST

Trolling the rosters, for you Nail Yakupov fans, the kid is a -88 in 3.5 NHL seasons... http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?7209

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 11:26 pm EST

E, good stuff man, thanks....... Friggin tax code is so complex & probably ever evolving.. A good dilemma to have...... Prompts a little curiosity: Jock Taxes..... “Jock tax” is a colloquial expression referring to the trend among tax authorities toward levying state and local income taxes on traveling business professionals, particularly visiting professional athletes. Jock taxes require that traveling professionals pay income taxes in every state where they earn income or have an "economic nexus." Some states have extended jock taxes to visiting musicians, lawyers, and even touring skateboarders. Jock taxes represent poor tax policy because they are poorly targeted, arbitrary in their enforcement, and impose an unrealistic administrative burden by forcing traveling professionals to file potentially dozens of state and local income tax returns annually.

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 11:06 pm EST

MF: the NHLPA has worked with the NHL on all kinds of tax games. 401K over 200% matching for example. Who gets that? It's pretty funny. If you recall the Lundqvist contract was taking forever when in reality they were looking to assemble it so that he saved on taxes. It's funny but like any other sum of money, you can play the shell game with it. So although the income tax rate maybe what it is the players association can unload an army of accountants and financial advisors to help players recoup potential lost revenue. Remember, you have tons of states with Jock taxes as well. I'm not suggesting that they are guilty of tax evasion and/or they get away without ever paying taxes because they do. But curbing the pain is why you have an accountant. If Stamkos wants to play a big market like NY or LA he will also be able to throw a lot of his ancillary income into corporate inversion. After all, they are a marketing firm as well. The tax code is an ever more complex for a reason.

E


Thu Apr 21 2016 10:47 pm EST

No number one center usually means no Cup. I was ripped for suggesting Joe Thornton last summer. Yeah, he's old. He's also a No. 1, and for a team whose window was gonna shut this season and just did? I'd have taken him. He gets a bad rap for his PO stats which are pretty good. And really: on a team with Rick Nash, we're gonna rip Thornton for POs? And dare I mention Hank in there also? But whatever. Doesn't matter now. A good run. I hope we at least make the playoffs for a while and not have a rerun of 1998-2005.

Nick


Thu Apr 21 2016 10:37 pm EST

I don't really want Stamkos, I'm just saying the possibilities we would have with nearly 30 mil, with those 5 guys gone. Stamos has mistake written all over it. I really want Backes, and one of Brouwer or Lucic. We need physical offensive players, and thats what u have right there. Cant give out contracts longer than 3-4 yrs.

Higgy21


Thu Apr 21 2016 10:35 pm EST

Backes is an interesting UFA...Coming off a $4.5mill p/y contract ...Big body RHS, 6'3" 225lbs, turns 32 in May, scored 45 points this season... We pick him up & maybe we keep Stepan even though as RF4L brings to light, his NTC kicks in after the season... Stepan, Brass, Backes, Lindberg down the middle? Not too Shabby, but Backes is getting on in years.....

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 10:31 pm EST

Higgy: The STL Blues have been on record stating they want to engage in a "hockey trade." A trade where players are exchanged.. If they would accept Nash, we should kick the tires on Shattenkirk and a prospect.. If we need to eat some $$$, say $800K for the final 2 yrs of Nash's contract, so be it........ jmon

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 10:28 pm EST

Higgy: Stamkos will cost at least as much as Kopitar, 8 yrs - $80million... TBL can afford that & Florida has 0% state income tax.. NY State & NY City tax comes to just about 15%, especially for someone in that income bracket... I'm guessing that if half the games (the home games) are taxed as being in NY City & State, it could be $750,000 per year difference..... Any accountants among you Wallsters? ...... http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?6554

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 10:28 pm EST

i may be rushing into it, but BACKES, BROUWER, LUCIC, and L.SCHENN r the only free agents worth looking at this summer. Hopefully we can ship NASH down to St. Louis.

Higgy21


Thu Apr 21 2016 10:05 pm EST

Nash+M.Staal+Girardi+Stepan=25.5 mil. How aggravating is that? Steal and Stepan another 5 yrs, and Girardi 4. Imagine what we could do with all of that. With Boyle off as well, we could sign Yandle and Stamkos and still have a ton of cap space.

Higgy21


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:49 pm EST

UGH... so where do we go from here? I am going to hold out hope that this team can pull off another miracle like they did last year against the Pens, but it sure doesn't look very likely This team looks like it hit a wall. There could be a hundred reasons why. Problems in the locker room? The coach? Those are things to figure out when the season is over. The thing that bothers me about AV is the complete lack of cohesion in the top 2 lines. That's on him. The D pairings - on him. The lack of effort... ... ... unacceptable. The Pens are literally Out-rangering the Rangers of the past few years. Feels like a set back - not a 'atom bomb'. And honestly, Hank doesn't look right - hasn't for the games leading up to the stretch run and doesn't look good now either. Is he done? I don't think so... there is something going on... two ways to go about it - either we rebound in a hard way or things need to change. Again, not an atom bomb, but a bad mix at the moment. LGR.. ... ... I guess?

Z


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:43 pm EST

CoMark: Stepan has to go before his NMC kicks in. Way too much money for a guy who career-wise is visible for 2 games and the opposite for 3. Another stupid contract courtesy of the Rangers in their blind pursuit for a cup. SATHER SUCKS!

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:42 pm EST

I would re-sign Stalberg,

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:41 pm EST

Just have to win 15 in 22 or less ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:39 pm EST

Pop-gun offense has been the Rangers failing for the past 5 years. That's what you get when you never draft high. It's such a simple concept, not sure why those nobs in charge don't get it. All good tho - this June the Rangers will dwindle their thumbs until well into round 3. SATHER SUCKS!

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:38 pm EST

I wanted to believe we were still in this series, but that was awful. AV out coached, Hank can't carry this team, but geez, he's paid to come up big and he just hasn't this season. We suck in the last minute and I have never seen a team give up as many last minute goals as we have this season. I don't usually think about next year until the final whistle but: Good riddance UFA's: Boyle, Moore (and his spin-o-Rama), Stalberg, Eric Staal, Summers, Diaz, Megna and all Minor league FA's except Hrivik and maybe Noreau. TRADE: Girardi, Staal, Hayes. MAYBE: Raanta, Glass,KEEP: Hank (tough call, but he's staying), Zucc, Kreider, Stepan, McDonagh, Klein, McIlrath, Sjkej, Miller, Lindbergh, Fast. SIGN: Yandle. Get rid of Nash however you can. Brass is the one guy I'm not sure of.

ColoradoMark


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:38 pm EST

look at the bright side, they got 1 piece of the puzzle on the wall, only need 15 more...hs....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:36 pm EST

Lack of offense in Nashville gonna sink them again. Do they want Nash this off-season?

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:34 pm EST

And only 3 goals in those 5 playoff home losses.

Tucc


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:32 pm EST

they all have that stupid hat with the cup and their number in it...wafj....kick your hat....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:31 pm EST

AV: I picked a bad night to stop sniffing glue.

Bob


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:30 pm EST

the nyr have come back from 3-1 deficits 2 years in a row, now have to make it 3...oh boy call the odds makers....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:29 pm EST

this felt like the longest game ever.....get those golf clubs ready

Topovski


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:28 pm EST

rf4l yeah, and he does it good...ask nosen and the rest of msg and nbc....he's a pos...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:26 pm EST

Joe Michelleti SUCKS!

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:24 pm EST

Well the signs were there in November and slowly but surely built over the course of the season, save for a handful of games here and there: This team as it's constituted now has run it's course, starting of course with the coach.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:21 pm EST

great interview by the coach, never once really saying I.....typical.....players know it....we, they, way to go veenyo....weknow....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:20 pm EST

Joe Michelleti is the 1st guy I'd shitcan at the end of this season

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:19 pm EST

dickbreath now blowing skidmark...fire this pos please...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:16 pm EST

Gresh players are constantly traded or not resigned .. veenyo threw too many of these guys under the bus individually and as a team too many times this year , now they want the bus to hit him...end of story....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:16 pm EST

I was just going to say that, stevie. Does he not know he is jinxing himself? WTF? Win one first, Hank. Maybe he needs to retire and go into the apparel business with Avery.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:15 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b26BD5KjH0

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:13 pm EST

I think it is time for reruns of that Lundqvists Masks show. That'll make us forget this trash....right

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:12 pm EST

is that really a cup with #30 on it on Hank's hat? ...really?.... you have to win it to do that, not just wear it....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:09 pm EST

Stevie - dont forget Renney also. I'm tired of the coaches being blamed. Don't get me wrong, they deserve it but when do the players get to be held responsible for the putrid effort they put out. This team layed down and showed the Ny rangers fans what they think about them.

Greschner4


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:07 pm EST

Family? Yeah, dysfunctional family.

Bob


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:06 pm EST

Gresch, that is why I say I am going to have a hard time rooting for this team going forward. If big changes are not made (starting with the coach), I don't think will be spending much time with watching NHL and Ranger hockey next year. We will see...

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:05 pm EST

Ny stranger that's getting robbed without a gun ...gresh that's how you get a coach fired ... They did it for talkerella and they are doing it for veengotago

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:02 pm EST

Stevie, my co-worker told me yesterday, his uncle bought 3 tickets for this game at $1,000 a piece. Hope he wasn't a Rangers fan!

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:02 pm EST

This was a big F-U by this Rangers team to the ny faithful. This team just didn't compete. These are supposed to be professional nhl players.

Greschner4


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:00 pm EST

Matt Murray, looks like we got beaten by an 8th grader. Shit.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:59 pm EST

Vic that is a disturbing stat.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:59 pm EST

5 th straight playoff loss at home ... Pay to watch that shit? ... Refund

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:59 pm EST

This may be the first time I'm glad I don't have MSG. i don't give a crap what any of these guys have to say.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:57 pm EST

Rhet they can get at least 2 good players for him abd be able to resign yandle ... That's 3 reasons ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:57 pm EST

BTW, that is 4+ straight home playoff games where the Rangers have not scored an even strength or PP goal.

Vic


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:57 pm EST

You watch, Lindeberg takes a penalty at 19:32 of the third and he get's benched in game 5.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:55 pm EST

A fin shutout .. No timeout no pulling the goalie... Pull the coach and the Capt ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:55 pm EST

RHET: Again, it all comes down to expectations. I didn't expect them to win this series. I'm seeing what I thought I would see. So I'm not as angry as a lot of folks are. I don't think they can win 3 in a row but I didn't think they could the last two years and they did. So, I'll wait until the series is over to unload on them.

Vic


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:54 pm EST

You don't think he's a captain you take the "C" away from him. why does he need to be trade? Best defenseman on the team. Bar none.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:52 pm EST

Girardi and Diaz in Saturday?

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:52 pm EST

Sad. But they have nobody that is even dangerous. Nobody can score

KIS


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:51 pm EST

Rhet call hunwick he will tell you ..

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:51 pm EST

Unfortunately, there isn't a true keeper on this team. NO ONE is untradeable. It's a sorry state of affairs!! I can't believe that it has come to this; but, they need a complete overhaul.

kitchen1


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:51 pm EST

I agree Mac D tried but the coach is paid to make those decisions

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:49 pm EST

Would not have beaten....

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:49 pm EST

Trade with this kind of performance we would have beaten the Panthers either. So moot point.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:48 pm EST

Rhet he had no business in game 7 forcing 7 d, wasn't really able to play and same these 2 games... He doesn't belong on the ice all 3 times ...the guy is not a captain ... End of story ..

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:46 pm EST

Rangers won a meaningless game #82 like it was a playoff game...they didn't want their integrity questioned. Brilliant

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:45 pm EST

sans Strals too

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:45 pm EST

Can't win 2 games with 1 goal ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:44 pm EST

Alex Killorn with the late goal as TB (sans Stamkos) kicks the Wings to the Curb

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:44 pm EST

This is the reason AV was let go from Vancouver. He had a few years, but he simply can;t deliver when it counts as a coach... so I'm sorry. He has to go...

Tucc


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:44 pm EST

Stevie, it must be a French to English translation thing...kick AT the can...kick IN the can...we know Veeknow which he likes.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:44 pm EST

Wait until they trade Big Mac and retain AV as the coach....you know it's going to happen!

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:43 pm EST

Stevie... Besides the empty netter with 16 seconds left in the game, what other goal was he on the ice for?

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:42 pm EST

Vic in trying to avoid the Christmas rush ... And so are the nyr and their coach

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:42 pm EST

VIC... Ordinarily I'd be there with you, but I just don't see this team winning 3 in a row. They look so far removed from it's predecessor.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:42 pm EST

BTW, SKJEI has been extremely good tonight. Best Ranger by far.

Vic


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:41 pm EST

So your down by 5 goals. Why is Glass seeing any icetime? AV can't double shift anyone else? Someone with a few more goals next to his name?

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:41 pm EST

Rhet game 7 last season game 3&4 this season... That's enough ... Say goodbye to him and this coach ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:40 pm EST

The entire NYR team looks like they're playing with broken hands tonight.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:40 pm EST

Look, I know this sucks but this series isn't over. If anyone should know that it is Ranger fans. When this season ends I'll unload on them but not before.

Vic


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:39 pm EST

This is a kick in the can

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:38 pm EST

Maybe I'm missing it... exactly how many games has McDonagh cost us in the postseason?

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:37 pm EST

High sticks are legal for the pigpens

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:36 pm EST

Hagelin humiliating the nyr now a tough guy... What an embarrassment ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:36 pm EST

AV is more likely to play a 58 year old Lucien Deblois than Big Mac on Saturday

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:36 pm EST

Rick Nash - 31 Yrs Old - $7.8 million Henrik Lundvist - 34 Yrs Old - $8.5 million Eric Staal - 31 Yrs Old - $8.25 million Dominic Moore - 35 Yrs Old - $1.5 million

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:35 pm EST

Great time to play one of your worst games of the year unbelievable!

tlats


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:35 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUjGf2Grrus

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:33 pm EST

What a joke shot by the fugitive ... a peewee shoots harder than that ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:33 pm EST

Really, other than Hank and Raanta playing out of their minds goal the first month of the season, this has not been a playoff team. And it shows...

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:33 pm EST

U guys are brutal tonight.....cut the Rangers some slack....they will win game 5.......Take it to the bank....Game 6 back @ MSG

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:33 pm EST

See that shot by McD? He look healthy?

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:31 pm EST

Buffoons

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:31 pm EST

Our announcers are a bunch of Buffons

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:31 pm EST

Fotiu if that happens then he can't play Saturday and then the nyr win ... Good idea

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:28 pm EST

Rhet, the Islanders need a goalie in a bad way. Hank wouldn't have to move his family..... They'd be contenders, but $8.5mill off the books.... food for thought....

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:28 pm EST

Trade Hank? Really? The guy is making too damn much money.

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:28 pm EST

Why is McD still getting ice time? This game is over. Why take a chance on aggravating the injury? Effin stupidity

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:27 pm EST

Really setting the tone for the next game... Flatlining

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:27 pm EST

And trade Hank. He deserves better. He'll never win a cup as a Ranger!

Tucc


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:26 pm EST

AV finally trying Nash/Staal/ Miller a combo The Wallsters suggested just after the trade deadline..... woohoo

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:26 pm EST

Out like effing' lambs... sickening end to a pretty good run but at the e3nd of the day no pressure, money players on this team.

Tucc


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:25 pm EST

They should just line up at the end of this game and shake hands, get it over with.

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:25 pm EST

I know Ive said it before but I hate this team

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:24 pm EST

Hank will be 35 next year.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:24 pm EST

Put Big Mac in on Saturday again ... Coach did a mess yesterday ' we're going to win game 4' ... He is a big mess ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:23 pm EST

This could be Boyles 2nd to last NHL game..... Thank you, good-bye, $4.5mill to spend elsewhere...............

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:23 pm EST

Are we on the PK again?

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:22 pm EST

Pounding on the humiliation. AV and his troops taking it like meek little puppies.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:21 pm EST

Can't watch this crap anymore....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:21 pm EST

3 pp goals yay pk

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:20 pm EST

Skeji remains impressive. Got a keeper here.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:20 pm EST

What a total piece of shit useless hunk of flesh Dickiletti is when it comes to the job he has.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:19 pm EST

Plenty of teams will want Hayes, don't be silly.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:19 pm EST

Here comes a suspension for jitters aka graves on mario ... Bcc keyed that video up in 5 seconds ... Just waiting for a nyr slash ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:19 pm EST

And fuck that pussy Mario. Graves should have punched him in the head after he slashed him.

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:18 pm EST

Thank you Miller!!

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:17 pm EST

NOBODY wants Hayes. He would be lucky to play in the AHL.

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:16 pm EST

They have really have turned it on and mostly off in these playoffs

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:16 pm EST

I wonder if Boston would give up the San Jose #1 for HAYES ?

Pal17


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:13 pm EST

Pens should make a goalie change - bring in the water boy, let him look like an all-star too. He doesn't even need pads, stick or mask.

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:11 pm EST

AV is making me long for the days of Trottier....not really

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:10 pm EST

The tone for this game was set when nobody put Latang it out the 2nd row off the opening face-off.

LetsGoRangers


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:09 pm EST

Haglin must be LAUGHING his head off. What a difference a year makes

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:08 pm EST

4 in a Row? The Rangers can't win a shift or a period.

LetsGoRangers


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:07 pm EST

it's the coach , it's the capt....end of story.....that's who to gut....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:06 pm EST

We're not winning three in a row either.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:06 pm EST

Gut this team like a rotten fish in the off season. They flat out suck. Nobody on this roster is untradeable. I'm tired about hearing how good this team is. I'm tired of hearing how this team is a player away. This team is a whole roster away.

LetsGoRangers


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:04 pm EST

Even the Flyers split their games at home....We are going out in disgraceful fashion

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:03 pm EST

DeBlasio would have Mess arrested

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:03 pm EST

Imagine Messier with this bunch....He might kill Hayes....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:00 pm EST

MSL

WIOSA


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:59 pm EST

"At some phase of their career".... College, minors, etc., etc. etc.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:59 pm EST

Great to have the Capt back after a solid win on Saturday ... Get to lose on Tuesday and losing on Thursday ... That's a real leader ... Couldn't do it without him... Wouldn't that be refreshing ... 6 sog in 2 Nd period ... Disgraceful

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:58 pm EST

There is.no leadership in the locker room either...THAT is probably what MAL brought..

WIOSA


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:57 pm EST

Rhet: Who, besides Nash, who got the C in Columbus because they sucked and he was easily the best player.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:56 pm EST

Bring the Whalers back!!!

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:56 pm EST

All the leadership on this team. Guys that have been a team captain at some phase of their career and this team disappears all the damn time. I don't get it.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:54 pm EST

We need Lazy Hayesz back in!!!

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:53 pm EST

1 goal in last 11 playoff periods......OH MY GOD!!!! I need to follow another team

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:52 pm EST

hahaha Veenyo has the blender out for line combos!!!

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:50 pm EST

Was kidding about that spoke to Grapes a bunch of years ago during the dark ages about coaching and he said he loved it but his time is done when it comes to coaching and the league and how things are done has changed too much to take his style.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:49 pm EST

Thank goodness for the dvr.

bazzer


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:48 pm EST

Hire Don Cherry he would torture these guys.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:48 pm EST

guess coach told them to stop hitting, they're tiring themselves out....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:47 pm EST

How can we not score 1 goal during the playoffs on a rookie goalie in our own building?

WIOSA


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:47 pm EST

How can we not score 1 goal during the playoffs on a rookie goalie in our own building?

WIOSA


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:46 pm EST

Have a good night boys I'm done,nif the players don't care why should I?

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:46 pm EST

E Staal looks to be laboring out there. That bad shoulder hurting that bad? Then why is he playing? Bahhh

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:45 pm EST

Just heard this from my sons: "United We Suck" - those who watch the games on MSG will get it.

chet94


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:44 pm EST

Eric Staal holds up on a hit to Crosby

tlats


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:43 pm EST

Mike Sully showing emotions an he is up 4 goal.Veenyo calm as a cucumber

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:41 pm EST

Has Matt Murray even broken a sweat this game? Continues to prove my point that a team can win the NHL playoffs when your goalie is not your top star player, but you can't win without a top first line center.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:40 pm EST

Great GIF on Kunitz. He move's into the crease under his own power, knocks down Marc Staal and then goes back to the goal and knocks it off it's magnets. No penalty called. PRICELESS.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:39 pm EST

Nothing left in this team....They have quit.....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:38 pm EST

can't fire the team, but fishboy sure can fire his coach...bring the crew up from crew from Hartford ....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:38 pm EST

Its one thing to be bad but to have no passion!!!!????? Call the refs to the bench and lay into them...show your team you give a shit

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:37 pm EST

coach grow a pair, pull yourself go to the toilet....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:36 pm EST

Just like the year before the Park/Ratelle for Esposito trade. This era is over. This core has failed, starting with Henrik. The only humane thing to do is find a team that can contend over the next few years, trade him there and commence the rebuild.

Bob


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:36 pm EST

Somebody needs to take a match penalty. JFC

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:36 pm EST

Honestly thought we wou;ld lose in 5 but so wanted to be wrong.....This is npt a good team....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:34 pm EST

I want AV to call them to the bench and say...WTF!!!!

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:34 pm EST

York... Miller was sighted early in the game, he was outmuscled on the first goal. That was his guy.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:34 pm EST

What a sham these refs are

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:34 pm EST

wave your handkerchief veendontknow ....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:34 pm EST

Unreal....These officilshould be shot....Kunitz went to the box?????

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:34 pm EST

ROLFMAO Kunitz forgot he plays for the pens and skated to the box and the refs were like hey you're not a Ranger go to your bench.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:34 pm EST

Thought it couldn't get any fucking worse. Rangers and NHL or a fucking disgrace

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:34 pm EST

So...Last 4 home playoff games we lose....We are not even ready to play tonight and have 0 pushback

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:34 pm EST

Well face it.......they are simply not that good, which the regular season bore out. They cannot compete with a team as skilled as Pittsburgh. Eric Staal will look to get as far away as possible from this heartless bunch.

Bob


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:33 pm EST

Whatever they do if AV is back we are screwed....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:32 pm EST

Is MIller playing tonight? Brassard and Zuch are already thinking about playing 36 holes

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:32 pm EST

At this point I want them all gone. Hard to come back and root for these guys next year after this garbage. Do they have any self respect left? They are not out-classed, just totally out played, out hustled. Zero heart.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:32 pm EST

We could not hit the ocean by falling out of a boat tonight.... Tanner Glass has been AWFUL in the postseason. Waste of space.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:31 pm EST

Moore you loser....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:31 pm EST

If Nash made 3 mil less I'd keep him

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:31 pm EST

Ironically, until the high sticking penalty I didn't realize Glass was in the lineup.

chet94


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:30 pm EST

RF....Not a bad thing necessarily....Hank will not win a cup in NY......That ship has sailed....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:30 pm EST

pj... add capt fugitive parmenter....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:29 pm EST

Didn't miss that call?????? Only Letang gets away with that. Not that it matters...This team DID NOT COME TO PLAY

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:28 pm EST

People I want gone next year.....AV, Girardi, Moore, Nash, Hayes for starters......

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:28 pm EST

Hey ,maybe the King will allow himself to be traded this summer. That contract is gonna kill us - $8,000,000 for 5 more years. YIKES!

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:27 pm EST

Stevie Crosby likes Sully a lot I remember when they interviewed him a few weeks in and he was gushing about him..............................ROFLMAO double minor for high sticking they didn't miss that FUCK this bullshit

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:26 pm EST

Thanks Hank....Good job tonight....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:26 pm EST

Bring on Beukeboom

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:26 pm EST

Make Mac the Captain next year with Gernander as coach. There will be accountability then. Let these bums answer to Mac !

stepunmytoe


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:25 pm EST

Hope they don't make it worse and sign E Staal to a big contract....He is a checking forward....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:25 pm EST

York the pigpens are shot blocking, and sully is kissing skidmark's ass every chance he gets.....byebye hank 'great job'......

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:24 pm EST

RF wait a second you and hospo liked the Staal trade I said it was a bad one two seconds and a prospect and I said it when it happened there was no where for him to play and his style doesn't fit AV

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:23 pm EST

The Pens look like a combination of the Torts Rangers and the AV Rangers where the speed that AV had year one, and the north south stretch game, with the relentless pursuit, back checking, and PK of Torts.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:23 pm EST

And this isn't a function of the Pens playing great. Rangers would be losing to an AHL or ECHL team right now. So infuriating.

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:22 pm EST

Yep another trade of desperation was the E Staal one. I was hoping he'd help and was relieved another first didn't get tossed away, but given his input and how this season is about to end, yet another regretful trade to put the capper on a whole bunch of them. Job for life - phuck you.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:22 pm EST

This is a nightmare game as ugly as it gets

tlats


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:22 pm EST

Chyna then Prince and now Rangers fans hope and dreams

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:22 pm EST

So at what point do they look to break some faces? Oh, yeah, never mind...

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:21 pm EST

And somewhere in some dark corner of the universe sits the ghost of Vic Hadfields past, grinning in the penalty box as another season winds down toward golf.

Punchrolfe


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:21 pm EST

PJ Kicked the can and missed...and broke a toe!

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:21 pm EST

Why the hell won't he put Ranta in??? Hank hasn't been great but atlas pretend you're saving him for game 5

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:21 pm EST

stfu nosen and dickbreath....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:20 pm EST

There is more anger and embarrassment on this wall then there is on that bench. At this point you start playing for Game 5 which should mean you pound the f out of them, slash the f out of them etc. We will just go quietly into the night.

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:20 pm EST

Stranger I don't completely agree with E practice now is about conditioning and also about changes to the system which the Rangers aren't doing any, so it's more about video seeing assignments missed etc.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:20 pm EST

We have kicked the can but missed....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:20 pm EST

BTW, if AV doesn't dress McI next game....well...

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:20 pm EST

turn off the lights the part is almost over...capt fugitive not covering hornqvist 5-5, but his name is not girardi.....and the pk is painfully killed.....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:20 pm EST

Rangers special teams horrendous....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:19 pm EST

All those picks for one cup final appearance. *SIGH*

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:19 pm EST

And E. Staal was a deadline steal, wasn't he?

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:19 pm EST

Dickiletti getting a chub gushing about the Pens and Crosby.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:18 pm EST

what are you talking about? we're getting executed!

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:18 pm EST

Getting blown out in a big way.....So sad....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:18 pm EST

LOLOLOL....AV sucks....

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:17 pm EST

E, but when a team continues to not execute.....

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:17 pm EST

Rangers suck.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:16 pm EST

Chew that gum, Villenault. That will fix it.

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:16 pm EST

So down 2 games to 1 and 3-0 after the first period, who comes out with more desperation? The pens! If that isn't an indictment of the coach and the "leadership", nothing is. Pride? No Effin pride on this team.

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:16 pm EST

Good for Brady Skjei

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:15 pm EST

So nobody shows up including Hank....This is really sad....

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:14 pm EST

Change the name of this team from Rangers to Fillers.

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:13 pm EST

Stranger: actually, it is mostly film study at this point. Practices are generally walk throughs...

E


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:13 pm EST

deja vu all over again...we have all been here before....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:13 pm EST

If AV is back next year, I'm not gonna watch much, that's for sure.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:12 pm EST

LOLOL...Rangers mailing it in. Can we decline game 5 please?

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:11 pm EST

Another long shot. Why won't this stupid team drive to the net? Why? Why? Why?

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:10 pm EST

What exactly does AV show in his infamous video sessions? And don't you need to, you know, practice on the ice? In a fast game it is muscle memory not cerebral BS you need to practice.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:10 pm EST

Oh, surprise, surprise. The King in net. Of course, Pittsburgh immediately with a prime scoring chance. Bye bye Rangers.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:10 pm EST

Dick-breath-a-letti is another who needs a puck to the temple...........

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:09 pm EST

Ok let's see how ugly this gets

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:09 pm EST

weknow post-game..".i knew i should have played Diaz".....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:09 pm EST

we need to win this thing shift by shift and claw right back into this mess

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:06 pm EST

well prepared team...ask the coach in a must win, to make the next one an absolute must win or ...FORE.....he thought they were prepared...... I Tawt I Taw A Puddy Tat....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:06 pm EST

Pussies, with no will to win.

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:06 pm EST

Nothing in the physical or emotional tank most of the year. Window slammed shut last spring with the Killorn Krusher. And Hank at $8M for five more years. Oh well. It was a fun run these last four seasons. Maybe some sucker will take Nash and free up some dough.

Nick


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:05 pm EST

Punchrolfe.... The problem is that AV let's his players police themselves when he should now be ripping them a new one.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:05 pm EST

My point was, we should know how to beat this system.

bazzer


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:04 pm EST

I can understand the first goal. But the first three???? Freaking Sad!!!

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:02 pm EST

Punchrolfe (funny nickname BTW): No way does what you want (and I concur with you) gonna happen under AV.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:01 pm EST

I would leave Hank in the locker room

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:01 pm EST

Punchrolfe: Who scoffed at you? On here? We've been talking about it since November....

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:00 pm EST

Time to play our backup then time to play golf.....

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:00 pm EST

FWIW, I'd start Raanta this period, but that's drastic for sure. Given what we know of AV, it ain't gonna happen. His gonads are too tiny for that sort of move.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:59 pm EST

I was scoffed at three weeks ago for saying that AV had lost his captain, his star, and the room. Well, that is exactly what appears to be the case. When you are significantly better than your competition, you turn the other cheek and follow a coach's admonitions about maintaining poise and not losing focus. When you are in a dogfight, and the other team is physically dominating, you let your team know you have their back and dole out some punishment to the other team in equal measure. Sometimes keeping your cool is exactly what they DONT want to see. We have arrived at that point.

Punchrolfe


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:59 pm EST

DREW: Don't count Florida out so quickly. Games tied 2 2.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:59 pm EST

Bazzer then we should be able to take this series to game 7.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:59 pm EST

IS Hank kidding? ... that pos sheary sp 2 breakaway goals, no screen excuse ...come on gmafb....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:59 pm EST

RF4L... not his fault? He should have saved at least 1 of those goals. He's stinking up the ice just like the rest of the team. Highest paid play on the NYR and has zero accountability.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:58 pm EST

No accountability from the coach or "Veteran Leadership". The ride is OVER.

stepunmytoe


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:58 pm EST

Yeah Fred, what you said...right where we want them! Soooo.....how 'bout them Mets?!

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:57 pm EST

Pitt are playing like the Rangers under Torts.

bazzer


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:56 pm EST

Hipcheck - I know this is immature but the islanders likely going to 2nd Rd is the real kick in the pants for me. They (fans) are all over me.

DREW


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:56 pm EST

TRACERM...a 21 year old first time in the playoffs back up goalie.

WIOSA


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:56 pm EST

Pretty good so far......Pitt saddled with the dreaded 3 goal lead. We have them right were we want them.

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:56 pm EST

At least the Rangers have their first rounder next year! No picks this year until the 3rd round.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:56 pm EST

York, what does he care? He gets paid anyway and will get a new coaching job faster than the Rangers can trade away another draft pick. Fuggin prick. Now we fully know what Vancouver was dealing with.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:56 pm EST

If you watch with the sound on mute, it' only sucks half as much.

bazzer


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:55 pm EST

the la copycats....except they've won CUPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:54 pm EST

Leadership??? I dont see any Stinking LEADERSHI!!!!!!!

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:54 pm EST

The King being outplayed by a 21 year old. Not just his fault tho. Terrible start but we've seen this picture, too, haven't we?

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:53 pm EST

MF...it is not the refs. This game is already out of reach, we don't score enough to overcome this.

WIOSA


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:53 pm EST

That's it, this unprecedented Era of winning, and sustained good Ranger teams is now officially OVER. No Cup, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Sad to see it end like this, but we all saw this one coming miles away. It hurts, and it's embarrassing (especially against Pittsburgh)... We are hardened to it by now.

hipcheck


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:53 pm EST

way to go veenyo it's the players' fault.....you pushed all the right buttons and it shows...capt fugitive what a slap shot...like a mosquito bite.....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:52 pm EST

Need to make a goalie change. Game is probably over anyway. But AV is guttless. Think he puts all those saved time outs in a scrapbook?

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:52 pm EST

York - I agree - I don't think a full fledged rebuild but a transition year.

DREW


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:52 pm EST

Seen this scenario through the years, where a team no longer plays for a coach. It is happening as we watch this debacle. And once again this team makes a backup goalie look as though he is the best in the world.

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:51 pm EST

Stranger, AV won't call a timeout, what the hell is he going to say? He doesn't have a clue what to say look at his face walking back to the locker room, he looks beat not mad, not pissed off he looks like a beaten man and that means he is done.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:51 pm EST

If we can get 1. Even early in the 2nd, we may be ok. Some of those are just bad puck luck. Gun to my head, we lose but hang tight guys.

DREW


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:51 pm EST

I still maintain our coach did not have them ready to play....Even Pierre talks about the leadership of this team. I have to agree....Who is leading the team??????? NO ONE

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:50 pm EST

It's time for a rebuild.retool I think McD, Girardi, Boyle (will be) Stepan, Moore, Nash, Hayes all need to go.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:50 pm EST

The refs contributed big time to this fiasco

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:50 pm EST

Wow this team needs to stop feeling sorry for themselves. Did you see the pic of them on the bench. No life and it doesn't help AV says they are a good team they play fast. If it's only about speed does that mean hags is the best player in the league? Now is when they need a leader to get them to believe in themselves. To many fan favs not getting things done like Zucc, brass and D Moore. This just isn't Nash. It's many

KIS


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:49 pm EST

Can we hit the g-d damn net, please?

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:49 pm EST

Wow, so what excuses is AV going to use after this one? Still saving those Time Outs? Maybe he will use a coaches challange when they are down by 5? Doubt it!

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:48 pm EST

Gotta wipe that friggin smile off crosbabys face

tlats


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:47 pm EST

So..........who's mom is going to take one for the team this year?

ges999


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:47 pm EST

Glad to see Henrik came prepared to play tonight. The fans paid the $ and were prepared. Once again, the fans are disrespected by this coach and these lazy ass players.

Bob


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:47 pm EST

Talk about shitting the bed. Can't recall a game like this. If this game doesn't get AV fired and a housecleaning of the team, nothing will.

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:46 pm EST

Hank beat by the legendary Conner Sheary (sp?). Come the f on Hank! Honestly didn't necessarily think he looked great the last stretch heading into the playoffs... it continues.

Z


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:46 pm EST

Look no further than that last play to see why McD should not be in the lineup tonight. Outmusceled by Kunitz.

chet94


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:46 pm EST

Our coach and players flat out SUCK! Time for a major overhaul. Veeno is gone....he doesn't know how to make changes when needed....You think he would've called a timeout when down 0-2

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:44 pm EST

Time to pull Hank

rngrsans


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:44 pm EST

Come on Hank, come on!!!

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:44 pm EST

Pull the queen

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:42 pm EST

Egads!

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:42 pm EST

Pens just working harder. To many fan favorites on this team that don't produce. It's not just Nash but what does zucc do? Brass is invisible this series. D Moore does what? Just way to many players

KIS


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:41 pm EST

0-2. On the pp alias pretty plays pretty passes pretty pathetic

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:40 pm EST

WIOSA yeah he's sitting in the press box his name is Wrath

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:38 pm EST

Both! Need to score here

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:37 pm EST

Yoinks and gadzooks!

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:37 pm EST

Marquess Of giving the lets turn it up boys bs

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:35 pm EST

Lets turn it up....Baawawawawawawawaw

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:34 pm EST

This team has no business being in the playoffs. Embarrassing to watch.

tracerm


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:34 pm EST

Does anyone on this team have any pride?

WIOSA


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:33 pm EST

Fotiu - the refs or the Rangers? Lol

chet94


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:33 pm EST

The smell of the feet

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:33 pm EST

Drew they are being out coached and out played. They look like they are in quicksand they start strong and then just stop hitting AGAIN.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:32 pm EST

Fans should boo these pathetic fucks off the ice.

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:32 pm EST

That PP looks sooo much better

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:31 pm EST

This is embarrassing

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:31 pm EST

Glad I have my cardiologist appointment tomorrow. This is beyond disgraceful

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:30 pm EST

This looks a lot like a complete crash and burn. Pittsburgh is laughing at us.

Bob


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:30 pm EST

I'm sure the refs will get this evened up.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:30 pm EST

I'm sure the refs will get this evened up.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:29 pm EST

Say goodbye to Hollywood

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:29 pm EST

Here we go again.

bazzer


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:28 pm EST

York - your positivity had me feeling good after game 2. I don't blame you though. This isn't unexpected but it just stinks to go through this.

DREW


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:28 pm EST

Bye bye Rangers?

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:26 pm EST

2 minutes for impersonating Petr Forsberg... pathetic.

Z


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:26 pm EST

Bizarre skipping puck.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:26 pm EST

Nothing like leaving a guy alone in front of the net to screen Hank.

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:26 pm EST

like I said......................

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:25 pm EST

Great penalty call there

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:25 pm EST

That penalty was for wearing a Ranger jersey

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:25 pm EST

I like the way Nash is playing.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:25 pm EST

There ya go refs stepping up their game making sure the pens don't lose momentum

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:24 pm EST

For those of you, like me, who were hoping to see McI, it was never going to happen because to remove McD would be an admission by AV that he was wrong. And you know that was not going to occur. jmho

chet94


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:18 pm EST

Do we have a shot on net?

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:17 pm EST

You better believe Letang's skate was intentional.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:17 pm EST

And f Pierre McGuire. Jerking off over the Penguins already

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:16 pm EST

Another penalty in front of the ref and nothing called LMAO

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:15 pm EST

Wow ANOTHER Rangers great start

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:14 pm EST

Won't be the last goal that Boyle and Yandle will be on for this game.

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:13 pm EST

Great fucking start

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:12 pm EST

Kreider is a beast in the playoffs he just raises his game

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:09 pm EST

That's correct, we need to win in spite of this coach

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:07 pm EST

Stranger its funny you say that I was thinking would it be bad to wish AV gets hit with a puck in the head and is KOd

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:05 pm EST

Oscar Oscar Oscar

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:02 pm EST

Is NN here? We need to good Mojo.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:02 pm EST

York if that is the case, then my bloodpressure will start going down soon as well. LOL. AV is an ass. Maybe he takes a puck to the temple.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:58 pm EST

Kis tonight's score ?

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:56 pm EST

I'm expecting to win tonight.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:54 pm EST

maybe purple hayes is mourning purple rain.....York this team has had to win in the playoffs despite this coach....they know how to do that.....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:52 pm EST

Purple Hayes OUT!!!!!!!!! Finally!!!!

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:50 pm EST

I'm joining the dark side, I don't see this going anywhere but golf by the end of the week. I have zero faith in this coach at all.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:49 pm EST

Zipay and Gross say Stahlberg is on the 4th line. Plus, they skated together.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:49 pm EST

RHET if he can't shoot or pass then he's not your best and you arne't going down with your best. You care how he plays defensively if he can't pass the puck out of the zone properly that means more time stuck in the zone which means bad defense. He was the direct cause of a number of scoring chances and being pinned in the zone last game due to his not being able to pass properly. I believe in you go with your best when they are your best, but taking away passing makes a player 50% of what they are worth. Here is the other thing if he can't grip the stick tight enough to pass how is he going to power anyone around?

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:48 pm EST

i'd put fast on the 4th line and the bergs with staal.....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:47 pm EST

fish toupee saying cheesy on 4th line, stalberg on 3rd line .....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:43 pm EST

Diaz skating as the extra D. Looks as if Boyle stays in. 3m Rangers Report ✔ ‎@rangersreport As expected. EStaal moves to middle between Lindberg and Fast.

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:41 pm EST

I detest that last defensive pairing.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:39 pm EST

Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello Miller-Brassard-Nash Stalberg-EStaal-Fast Lindberg-Moore-Glass McDonagh-Skjei MStaal-Klein Yandle-Boyle

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:39 pm EST

Diaz will sit. I guess there was some question about Boyle tonight.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:37 pm EST

Is Diaz in as a forward tonight?

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:36 pm EST

BTW, both Diaz and Boyle both are on the ice. ... York.... I wont disagree with the liability, but that's where a smart player needs to realize his limitations and rely on his defensive partner more. He should NOT be on the PP either. I want MCD on the ice defensively. If we're going down, I want to go down with my best.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:35 pm EST

‎@AGrossRecord Betting Oscar Lindberg with Dominic Moore and Tanner Glass on fourth line, Viktor Stalberg with Eric Staal and Jesper Fast. We'll see...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:34 pm EST

@AGrossRecord Oscar Lindberg on ice for warmups. Haven't seen Kevin Hayes. Raphael Diaz and Dan Boyle on ice for warmups.

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:33 pm EST

Buttman paying off AV to throw the series?

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:32 pm EST

Tonight’s probable lineup: Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello. Miller-Brassard-Nash. Lindberg-E.Staal-Fast. Glass-Moore-Stalberg. McDonagh-Skjei. M.Staal-Klein. Yandle-Diaz. Lundqvist/Raanta. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/21/game-4-penguins-at-rangers-its-go-time/#sthash.fLBXtBxJ.dpuf

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:30 pm EST

WTF ? I don't care if Diaz is in for Boyle although it would not have been my choice.... I care that McIlrath is NOT in the lineup and McDonagh is...... For tonight I care if Hayes is in and Lindberg is out..... AV, if it wasn't for us you'd be "Sprechen Sie Deutsch" you phuckin wimp!

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:26 pm EST

york that's carp guessing...rhet your capt cost the nyr game 7 in the semi finals, plain and simple at 75% or whatever % you want to put on him with a broken ankle, forcing his coach to play 7 d instead of rolling 4 lines...but you go with only on the wall.. fans at msg wouldn't say that because?.....now playing while unable to really pass or shoot...what % is that ?....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:22 pm EST

RHET, E it depends on what the injury is, it's on his control hand on the stich which hurts his passing he had little to no zip on his passes last game which caused turn overs and broke up breakouts, and his shot was soft as well. If a player can't move the puck properly he's hurting the team more than helping.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:21 pm EST

Are you serious Diaz in for Boyle?!?!?!?! AV is a POS I can't stand this guy I don't even know if I'm gong to bother watching tonight with this POS behind the bench.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:20 pm EST

Dan Rosen ✔ ‎@drosennhl Carl Hagelin said the Penguins have "great insight" into what the Rangers want to do on their power play breakouts. Yeah, it's his insight.

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:19 pm EST

E.... I don't know one coach that wouldn't put McDonagh in even if he was only at 75% ready to go. It's a non-issue except on the wall.

Rhet0ric


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:19 pm EST

TD I would say BUttplug doesn't care about most of the Original 6 teams they are all solid teams in good markets with a strong fan base that will tune in no matter if the team does well or not. Then you move down the line and teams like Philly, Minn, St Louis, are also not worries for him. He wants the cup in a few places, Florida either team, cali, Arizona, right now Mario wants out of Pitt he wants to sell the pens and Buttplug wants the pens to win badly to raise the vaule of the team and help them sell.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:17 pm EST

BDL on APRIL 21, 2016 6:03 PM Lindberg for Hayes, and Diaz for Boyle, Carp? RICK CARPINIELLO on APRIL 21, 2016 6:03 PM guessing, yes. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/21/game-4-penguins-at-rangers-tonight-7-p-m-pre-game-notes/#sthash.gI8Pvyuo.dpuf

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:12 pm EST

People, it's the playoffs. You either can go or you can't. McD wasn't 100% and he probably is hurting but there are plenty more breaks, bruises, teeth etc... To come. You put your best on the ice if they can go. That's hockey. The NYR by all accounts are playing the most important game of the season tonight. It'll be very difficult to come back from 1-3. But 2-2 it's a series.

E


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:05 pm EST

1 hour to go........ Anyone know if McDonagh & or Hayes is in tonights lineup? t/y

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 4:50 pm EST

BTW.... RIP Prince. Fan or not he is a big loss in the music world.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 4:49 pm EST

Stevie they both should be on the cover of a new EA Hockey 2016-17.....playing for another team. Lets Go Rangers! Lets kick the shite out of those pigpens, firts Letango, and then Crybaby. I want to see them hit so hard Mario feels it!

NYStranger


Thu Apr 21 2016 4:42 pm EST

Vic; I agree with Brown or even Jensen. I realize the first year team AV had was deeper. However it's up to AV to create the balance throughout his lines so as he is not hamstrung so much that he is burning players out. I really thought that was one of the things AV liked to do, roll 4 and keep up a high pace.

stepunmytoe


Thu Apr 21 2016 4:37 pm EST

STEP: The 3rd and 4th line haven't given them much in this series. The only one on the 4th line who I think is playing well is STALBERG. GLASS has been nearly invisible and MOORE isn't the player he used to be. I'd rather see a younger, faster 4th line, especially in this series. I'd rather see LINDBERG in for MOORE and HRIVIK in for GLASS. If they want a fast skating guy who can hit they can dress BROWN but I have a hard time believing AV would do that.

Vic


Thu Apr 21 2016 4:24 pm EST

Really seems like AV doesn't trust this team. Remember he used to just roll the 4 lines his first year ? He has a lot of imbalance in the minutes he distributes and they way the team turtles with a lead is telling. To rely on an obviously injured Dman like he is, is insanity. It gives him a good excuse when he fails though.

stepunmytoe


Thu Apr 21 2016 4:20 pm EST

TD: It'll be pretty funny to see the reaction up here if an American team wins the lottery! LOL...not that we should complain too loudly about that - stupid Edmonton won last year and didn't deserve and I guarantee you Buttphuck was really really pissed when that happened. Wish I could have seen that weasel face when the balls dropped. LOL....

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 4:19 pm EST

anyone here going to the game OR going to a bar near The Garden to watch the game?

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 4:03 pm EST

I meant DRESS MCILRATH ! bench McDonagh

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 4:02 pm EST

Ph_ck that noise A-Vishysoisse you surrender artist..... Dress McDonagh, Dress Lindburg, and take the governor's off the the throttle you g-d damned loser..... May this team please just go out there and bring your best blue-collar lunch-pail game.... Lets Go Rangers !!!!

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 3:56 pm EST

So McD can't practice but is 100% with no restrictions....Oh ok AV you jackass.......

PJ


Thu Apr 21 2016 3:44 pm EST

Captain Ryan McDonagh did not participate in the optional skate and also did not participate in Wednesday’s optional practice. But Vigneault said McDonagh, who missed the final three regular-season games and the first two games of this series with a right hand injury, is good to go tonight and there are not issues. Vigneault added there are also no restrictions on McDonagh’s play like, for instance, being able to take a slap shot from the point on the power play. “No, he’s good to go,” Vigneault said. “He can log as many minutes and play power play, penalty killing and five on five. No issues.”...bfs i have plenty of issues with both of you...more issues than sports illustrated....the 2 cursed bad luck boys....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 3:42 pm EST

“I didn’t really see what happened on the ice, it’s kind of a dangerous play,” Stalberg said. “Stuff happens quickly out there.” But should have it been a penalty? “Yeah of course it’s a penalty no matter how you look at it,” Stalberg said. “But, again, things happen fast out there, they’re going to miss stuff. It’s going to happen both ways. You can’t really dwell on that too. But obviously that’s a frustrating part at that time of the game. It would have been good for us to get a four-minute penalty. “The ref has got to call that there’s no question about it,” Stalberg added. “If they looked at it again they’re going to realize their mistake. But things happen out there so quickly. The refs are going to miss things both ways, we can’t dwell on that.” But Stalberg would not go so far as to say Letang’s hit was deliberate, as coach Alain Vigneault said on Wednesay the Rangers thought it was. “At first I wasn’t really sure what happened,” Stalberg said. “When I looked at the replay on the big screen, it’s hard to tell. I don’t think he’s going to try to do that at that time of the game. But the replay looks a little sketchy to me.” Letang said on Wednesday that the play was an “accident” and that he apologized to Stalberg during Game 3. Stalberg denies that version of Letang’s story. “No, that’s not (true),” Stalberg said. “I haven’t heard anything from him and honestly I couldn’t care less if he did or not. That’s part of the game. That’s part of the playoffs. We’re not looking to focus on this. I think it’s about we’ve got to be better here together as a group tonight.” Stalberg said the three teeth he had knocked out are the first teeth he’s lost…this season. “I haven’t lost too many before, one or two in the past, I’ve been pretty fortunate,” Stalberg said. “It’s part of the game, there’s nothing you can do about it.” ****

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 3:39 pm EST

i'd like to do my wild/andrei imitation....beat them on the scoreboard...win tonight...win the series ...send the pigpens home crying...that's revenge...so there !!!!!!!!!!...then break crybaby's jaw.....and malkinsteen and lefag orange's too....yellow is the right color for that pos team....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 3:31 pm EST

2.5 Hours

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 3:21 pm EST

Lovejoy boarding Stepan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFGNRVGiV1w ..... https://vine.co/v/itU1itTOaP3

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 3:20 pm EST

Pittsburgh will once again be without goalie Marc-Andre Fleury (concussion) who has stopped skating with the team.

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 2:56 pm EST

Carp saying Lindberg possibly in for Hayes.....

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 2:49 pm EST

TD and RF4L: Agreed. And I'm tired of it all.

Vic


Thu Apr 21 2016 2:29 pm EST

RF4L - Very true. The guy is on hockey's version of Manifest Destiny. Everything he's done to the sport is about Americanizing it...the shootouts...the coach's challenge, et cetera. He wants to move the cup to areas where people don't know/don't give a toss about hockey. And the only reason he's not freaking out about Chicago's dynasty is that LA finally started winning cups. His ideal scenario would probably be a cup in Dallas again. Canada be damned.

tdchi


Thu Apr 21 2016 2:28 pm EST

You guys are great! You call em like you see em..... re: McIlrath, should be dressed and bring the clean physical presence that he is.... It's also time to give Lindberg a turn, let Hayes sit this one out.... IMO, the Rangers should hit Crosby, Malkin, and Letang every chance they get. Make sure the hits are clean, hard, and do not take us out of position. The key, finished the check! ... We can win this... Time for McDonagh to have a closed door meeting and do his best Messier imitation.... Phuck this coach, he's not a New Yorker and will never be one..... We can physically destroy Pittsburg and do so cleanly and by the books, it's time to "execute" the plan! :-) "Lets Go Rangers!"

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 2:17 pm EST

TD: What you are saying about Buttphuck's view on New York is very similar to how that slimy weasel views Canada. Takes our loyalty for granted.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 2:06 pm EST

Vic - I'd say that's AMONG the reasons the ice is slanted. The other big one is that Buttman is absolutely creaming his pants over a Pittsburgh-Washington series. They've tried to jumpstart this rivalry for years, starting with the winter classic that almost killed CROSBY'S career...This whole BS that we have to have the two (former)powerhouses square off...And then all the side shows...FEHR a long-time Cap...ORPIK a longtime Pen...they want this SOOOOOO bad...and after getting a flavor for how weak the Rangers were in the first game, they were ready to hit fast-forward. The worst-case scenario for Buttman's cream-filled fantasy right now is that the Rangers eliminate Pittsburgh and go on to oust Washington. Then he gets NOTHING. That little f@ck knows that he'll always have a powerhouse media market in New York and that no amount of sucking is going to deter Ranger fans from tuning in. In his eyes, the team is literally the last one in the NHL he wants winning the cup. And it shows every time they get to the playoffs. Just abysmal calls left and right. I used to think it was all teams...but man, it really does seem like the Rangers in general are getting the short end.

tdchi


Thu Apr 21 2016 1:20 pm EST

RF. Exactly. The kid should be a major assert. AV has done many things right but he will never win a cup. As trump says. He isn't a winner. He doesn't know how to win. He lost everyplace he has been at he isn't a winner he is a loser. We want the Rangers to be great again 😂😂

KIS


Thu Apr 21 2016 1:14 pm EST

Don't know if everyone heard yet but The Artist Former Known as Prince is now one of the Formerly Living.

Vic


Thu Apr 21 2016 1:07 pm EST

According to Viktor...nobody apologized to him, and"nobody should;this is the game, this is playoff hockey"

WIOSA


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:56 pm EST

As for tonight's game, and the rest of the playoffs, I sure do hope HAYES is pulled from the lineup. I just want to see who you all will blame if/when the Rangers lose when HiAtYlErS isn't in the lineup. Whose fault will it be when STAAL continues to be invisible? You know, like he has been on the PP.....when HiAtYlErS isn't even on the ice. But I do anticipate a win tonight either way. I anticipate a win because Mr. Every Other Game (BRASSARD) should be trying hard again tonight. It is an even numbered game so we should have a BRASSARD sighting or two tonight. Hopefully MZA will be at the Garden tonight as well.

Vic


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:51 pm EST

KIS: Agreed! Agreed! Agreed! He's not a goon and shouldn't be deployed that way. What he is (or should be if the idiotic coach understood how to manage his team correctly) is a physical defenseman who can hit to hurt and if coached properly could be a weapon.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:45 pm EST

RDW: That Forbes article is right on the money (pun intended). It is so obvious that LETANG did it intentionally. You can see him look up, see who it was and then pull the stick back a little to get more on the chop to the face. And the league won't even look at it. Why? Because they don't want to see it. They don't want to do anything that hurts the Pens chances of going far in the playoffs. You can see it in the way the NBC crews have covered the series with the Pens the last two years. It is all Pens all the time. But the real fun will be if the Pens move on the face the Caps. I bet every Caps fan is rooting for the Rangers hard. They know they only have to beat the Rangers. With the Pens you have to beat the Pens, the refs and the league. It is a much harder road.

Vic


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:27 pm EST

I don't think any Ranger fan is shocked that the Pens are getting the majority of the calls. What is shocking to me is they have already missed two maybe three majors in just three games. I doubt we would be in the same situation if we were playing the panthers.....another reason we should have tanked.

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:19 pm EST

I don't want wrath being known only for beating somebody I want him to be known as a good player who can hurt you. If he gets a chance to crunch a player during the play playing hard great but he doesn't need to fight all the time.

KIS


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:19 pm EST

I don't want wrath being known only for beating somebody I want him to be known as a good player who can hurt you. If he gets a chance to crunch a player during the play playing hard great but he doesn't need to fight all the time.

KIS


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:19 pm EST

I don't want wrath being known only for beating somebody I want him to be known as a good player who can hurt you. If he gets a chance to crunch a player during the play playing hard great but he doesn't need to fight all the time.

KIS


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:17 pm EST

JFC: Your last point is excellent. IMO, if there was ever any doubt about how AV feels about McI, it's been answered over the past several weeks. He kept the kid in the pressbox so long when he finally got to play (first with the standings firmed up and second when injuries forced his hand), McI was rusty as hell and struggled a little (no worse, mind you than a couple of his peers, who haven't been rotting in the pressbox). The irony of all this is just how much a player of his ilk can bring to a setting like this (where the opposition is hacking and whacking and cheap-shoting all over the place). I'm not saying McI in the lineup eliminates all of that but it helps and if there was a coach behind the bench not saddled with tiny gonads, some retribution would be encouraged. Not in the land of Vigneault, tho. It's turn the other cheek, pick up your teeth and pretend nothing happened. Inexplicable. And tough as a fan to witness.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:16 pm EST

People saying send wrath In to kick this guys ass and that guys ass. Let CK crush lehtang. I have a feeling Stallberg could go and cheap Lefag with the stick or elbow real well. Send Stallberg out when Lefag is on and tell him to cross check Lefag across the head of put the but end of the stick through his mouth. I'm sure he doesn't need help.

KIS


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:12 pm EST

I posted during game 2 that once the game was in hand (2 goals lead with little time left) that the Rangers needed to tell Wrath to DESTROY someone....open ice hit, late hit, high hit...whatever....and if there was a response then he cold DESTROY whoever else came rushing in. Well, as usual, the Rangers played it straight and now Shitsburg gets away with murder. Will AV ever learn? I don't think so. And funny how AV likes to stick with a winning lineup....except when McIlraith is part of it.

JFC31


Thu Apr 21 2016 12:03 pm EST

We all know the boys won't seek retribution - it's the AV way. Has that nob announced his lineup yet? Is Girardi back in? No doubt AV is itching to get him back - that'll push McI further down the food chain.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 11:49 am EST

As others have mentioned... when looking at Letang's non-suspension incident vs. Haglin's 3 games is a f#cking joke, Eh. The refs have such a big influence on these series. It's painful how many times we get jobbed.

hipcheck


Thu Apr 21 2016 11:45 am EST

I vote for retribution on one of their star player, not Letang. They have been pounding him good, hell Kreider has plastered him at leat 4 times. Time to take out a certain Center.

hipcheck


Thu Apr 21 2016 11:34 am EST

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2016/04/21/the-real-reason-kris-letang-did-not-get-suspended-for-ax-chop-to-face/#5f58b0074099

RDW


Thu Apr 21 2016 11:04 am EST

NV94...I meant to ask how is nobody in the national media covering it? TSN, ESPN, not so much as a mention other than to say there is no hearing. I hate sounding like a whiner or conspiracy theorist, but the video evidence is so damning. Moore's hit definitely has something to do with his stick being at jaw level, but then he f#$%ing slashes him in the face with it with a clear motion. As York says, Rangers should respond in kind, but unless someone goes vigilante, no one will b/c its not AV's way.

pete


Thu Apr 21 2016 10:29 am EST

THAT is the best news story of today.....so far. Ulf Nilsson must be a happy guy today.

Bob


Thu Apr 21 2016 10:06 am EST

And in the man-bites-dog news category...http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/islanders-fans-throw-beer-at-denis-potvin--panthers-announcer--video-144931052.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

tdchi


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:44 am EST

any nyr does what lefag did to any pigpen , it will be a 5 game suspension in the playoffs....even if they fake an apology like lefag....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:42 am EST

RF73: Found myself. That's pretty cool. Must be an early in the game as I don't look very drunk or angry

RDW


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:30 am EST

Anybody at the game on Tuesday?...See if you can find yourself... Or see if you can find someone better... http://fancam.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=44d836f0f90d8ce52a0d7da1c&id=3462f9b047&e=dcc038c7fa

RF73


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:29 am EST

Some were there mid-season, but glad to see everybiody coming around on this "coach"..Preferably, I'd love to see him makeme shut my mouth and do something to take this team on a run, but I don't see it..haven't seen it for a long time..and why I was so negative coming into this series....Instead of Win One for the Gipper..It's Win Done Despite the __________.......................BOB - It's why I have always wanted MALKIN and CROSBY criippled on the ice...I know it's wrong, but eff the freaking Pens and their preferential treatment..

Hospo


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:25 am EST

Bob: Well said. Indeed the NHL is a farce when it comes to self-policing but Phuckman is all smiles - PO gates are bursting and he's making $9,000,000 a year. In the end for him that's what counts, the product on the ice and the safety of the players (idiots who are risking maiming themselves yet have to power to put an end to it) be damned.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 9:19 am EST

"No, no, y'all misunderstood, I was using British slang for cigarette because, you know, this guy is killing us..."

LeoS


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:49 am EST

I know that this is wrong, but I am sick to death of the Penguins and the preferential treatment they get from the NHL. I want the old-fashioned frontier justice meted out by the Rangers. I cannot get the visions of the referee standing over Stepan, crumpled on the ice after he was run from behind by Lovejoy while never having touched the puck and curling away from it, then watching Letang measure, then take his shot at Stalberg. Contrast that with the Kreider goalie interference penalty. Can the NHL possibly be run worse than it is today? Can the officiating possibly be worse? Can the player safety department be any more of a joke than it is? The fact is that Letang has always played it cheap when emotions kick in, yet he whines and complains like a victim when he ends up with head injuries himself.

Bob


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:44 am EST

The old AV looked and acted more serious and deternined. This year he acts like he is preoccupied with being one of the guys.

rangerlou


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:41 am EST

I hate how he neuters his team.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:27 am EST

York it's not personal, it's business....the guy makes wrong decisions that cause losses, and then puts the whole blame on the players....it's a shared responsibility , and a leader should take the heat and blame, not the trainer or the water boy or whoever he tries to blame....Marquess is his new name....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:25 am EST

york: Wild probably does!

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:17 am EST

RF Other than Andrei I don't think there is anyone here who likes AV very much

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:09 am EST

York18: good morning, it is what I want, I did not read that elsewhere.

mf


Thu Apr 21 2016 8:02 am EST

rf4l careful that could be considered a hate crime...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:52 am EST

Oops...I don't like AV very much....

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:43 am EST

On another note, I wonder how inspired the Rangers are feeling today. I'd say tonight is a must win - go down 3 games to 1 and with the way this team has played all year, I see it as very unreasonable to anticipate winning the following 3 games.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:40 am EST

I don't AV very much.

RF4L


Thu Apr 21 2016 7:23 am EST

Watch it Stevie...Andrew Shaw was suspended one game for using a "word" like that.

RF73


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:48 am EST

letang means le orange....lefag is his new name.....http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fag.....http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fag

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:36 am EST

I'm so sick of this frog no wonder these guys play with no passion and heart their leader, the coach has none. This guy is a failed enforcer and since he couldn't do it he doesn't like any player that can

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:31 am EST

York, if you say that word again I'm gonna need a safe space. AV is gutless. Expect no retaliation.

stepunmytoe


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:18 am EST

York there is little hope for this coach, his philosophy will not win a cup.....his rules of engagement tie his players hands....no concept of battles, wars, take no prisoners, texas death match....he's the .Marquess of Queensberry.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess_of_Queensberry_Rules

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:12 am EST

“We might feel that it seems deliberate,” Rangers coach Alain Vigneault said. “The NHL doesn’t it that way and the referees on the ice at that time didn’t see it that way so we’ve just got to deal with it and focus on the next game. “Frustration is not what we need,” Vigneault added. “The league not seeing it the way that we do or the referees, I think we need to focus here on coming out with good execution and a lot of compete and that’s what we’re going to concentrate on.”

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:07 am EST

Or send Wrath in to Thrash an arse whooping on him let him turtle Wrath will keep pounding him send the message that it won't be allowed and if need be wait till the game is out of reach and do it, but do it.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:05 am EST

I'll say this again, if I were the coach of the Rangers I would send glass in to head shot letang into next week, take the suspension and have the team pay his fine and pay him under the table if need be. Then you say straight to the media if the league could get it right things like frontier justice wouldn't be needed on the ice, if the league won't patrol the ice then the players will have to. Send that message immediately. I would say four bodies and not one guy could make the call, but in game one you had a ref making a call from 80 feet away that was a phantom call. I'd take my fine happily. That's the one thing I loved about Torts he would have tore the league a new one for what Letang did and sent someone after him for it.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:05 am EST

watch the video vine, he's swinging on purpose....the nhl is blind....http://nypost.com/2016/04/20/letangs-missed-cheap-shot-may-have-been-suspension-worthy/

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:04 am EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/20/penguins-had-two-concerns-about-crazed-nick-mangold/

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:02 am EST

STEVIE What happen to you're responsible for your stick? This league is a joke, accident or not he did it which makes him responsible and means at least a one game suspension. Meanwhile a homophobic slur that I would bet at least half the nation has used some form of one on a number of occasions gets a suspension? Lesson here, it's okay to knock someones teeth out with a weapon, but don't say anything like a homophobic slur great lesson for the kids. LeFAG and yes I'm using a homophobic slur wasn't taking a shot and hit someone with a follow through which is where you aren't responsible for your stick, he intentionally hit someone and because he plays for the pens gets away with it. I said it before I'll say it again, Crosby goes to the pens because the league needed to save that franchise, well now Mario, another pansy wants to sell the team and was having trouble finding buyers, well looks like the league will help him with a cup run to bring in buyers.

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 6:00 am EST

"If the Blueshirts are going to get through this series, probably a dozen of them have to elevate their respective games. And that goes for the coach, too, who might not want to have a player with one hand compromised playing the point on the second power-play unit, even if the individual in question is Ryan McDonagh. Still, the officials either did not see, chose not to see, or chose to misinterpret three distinct dangerous and reckless plays perpetrated against the Rangers by the Penguins. It is becoming as much of a pattern as the NHL’s leniency-based justice system that denies justice to victims and gives aid and comfort to the perps … and an advantage to their teams."

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:38 am EST

"On Tuesday, Pittsburgh’s standout defenseman Kris Letang, who has been targeted for physical punishment by the Rangers for three games, took a Paul Bunyon swing at the face of Viktor Stalberg, who went to the bench spitting blood, and spent a good portion of Wednesday at the dentist office. Four sets of eyes – two referees and two linesmen, who can call major penalties – didn’t call a penalty on the play. The DoPS didn’t even bother to have a hearing. Reportedly, the league determined it was accidental, which is pure fantasy. Accidental. Yeah, and the dog ate my homework. Meanwhile, Chicago’s Andrew Shaw uttered a homophobic slur – which is completely unacceptable, but only hurts feelings – and there was an all-out investigation and interrogation and a one-game suspension. Sticks and stones … The state of NHL refereeing is at a crisis level, and has been decaying all season, if not for several seasons. The league mandates that every tiny little hook or hold be called, but apparently can’t be bothered with dangerous attacks. And Letang’s is surely not the only one that would/should have warranted at least a penalty in the series. Referees, quite obviously, let the score, the period and the number of power plays already awarded determine the next call or non-call. It’s called “managing the game.” Worse, the NHL has ushered in a “coach’s challenge” this season. A coach can challenge A) a goal that was scored where there might have been interference on the goaltender and B) a goal that was scored on a play that might have been offside. The latter has worked to perfection, though it shows how often NHL linesmen get that call wrong, and it has also hurt the league mandate to increase scoring by taking goals off the board. The former has proven without a doubt that there is no standard whatsoever for goaltender interference, and that video replay – which ideally would always “get it right” – now often gets it wrong. One of those, ironically, and debatably was scored by Shaw last weekend. Referees go to their little iPads and make, in essence, a judgment call. There is no black and white, only gray. Remember the year the NHL decided to review every goal and disallow any goal scored with an attacking player in the crease, even if it was barely by a toenail? Then they got to the deciding game of the Stanley Cup Final and didn’t have the onions to disallow the Cup winning goal because Brett Hull was in the crease. Some of this garbage with which the NHL has filled its dumpster is going to catch fire. It is going to eventually come to roost. Broken necks, lost teeth and blood, perhaps a Stanley Cup championship? Flip a coin. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/20/nhl-gets-it-wrong-in-so-many-situations-rangers-toothless-stalberg-gets-a-dentist-visit-but-no-justice/#sthash.6gRRTIgU.dpuf

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:35 am EST

I haven't had a chance to read all the Wall reaction about Letang's non suspension yet, ... any chance The Rangers can turn this misjustice into a "rallying cry", (or will AV'S game plan & philosophy simply not allow for that)?

hipcheck


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:35 am EST

have another meeting.....The Rangers are losing the special-teams battle, going 1-for-12 on the power play — the one goal coming 5-on-3 — and giving up four goals on 13 man-advantages against through the first three games of this series. Vigneault saw it as a result of execution as well as effort. “We talked about that [Wednesday] morning with our group, a couple areas we believe we can be a lot better,” Vigneault said. “Execution is a big part of this, but there is also will and there is also compete level that goes along with execution, and those puck battles, whether it be 5-on-5, 5-on-4, 4-on-5, that you need to get to first.”

stevielegs


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:18 am EST

MF is that what you want or what has been said? I didn't see McD sitting tonight

York18


Thu Apr 21 2016 5:06 am EST

tdchi - 100% correct. Since all the leagues are copy cats, I foresee The challenge can and will be used in this manner from here on out. It's basically giving every team an extra timeout.

Greschner4


Thu Apr 21 2016 3:39 am EST

MCILRATH & LINDBERG IN, MCDONAGH & HAYES OUT....... Not wasn't that difficult? ......... Are You reading this you French Ph_ck?

mf


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:39 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/21/rangers-rookie-standing-up-to-the-playoff-heat/

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:34 pm EST

RF4L - The goddam coach's review is what really burns me...ESPECIALLY now...I mean, Sully has used it twice basically on a lark...there's no way his guys either caught a hint of those plays being off sides or slowed down the replay enough in the 15 seconds after the goal to see how close it was...In BOTH cases, he needed a time out. The tide was turning, his guys were frazzled and gassed and he needed a moment for everyone to collect themselves...Even his dumbass knows there's literally a 50-50 chance a goal gets overturned if the play is close, which everyone can see it was...so he rolls the dice. One game he loses, but still wins: He not only gets a time out, but basically gets a two minute break in the action. And after that, the game settled down for another period. What happens on Tuesday? Same thing. Only the f@cktard coin flip of decision goes his way...SOOOOO...not only does he get the goal wiped off the board, he gets to rest his team for 2 minutes...and that's no exaggeration...it's basically the duration of a TV time out...and he gets a chance to bring the game's momentum back down to zero. In both games, those stupid "reviews" played a role in dictating the pace for the next 20 minutes. In both games, they brought a furious pace to a grinding halt. And in one game, it meant the difference between the Rangers winning and losing. I mean, I don't even like the reviews when they go in our favor. They're the worst thing that has happened to this sport since the goddamn shootouts. Maybe even worse.

tdchi


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:26 pm EST

Not that it will make NYR fans feel any better, but Nash could have easily been suspended for the "flying elbow" to the head in game 3... Pens fans are pissed about it.... In other Nash news.... Rick Nash's goal in game 3 was his 17th point in his last 22 playoff games....Also, Nash is tied for the NHL lead in playoff points on the road since the start of the 2014 Playoffs (19; 7 G and 12 A in 22 games).

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:04 pm EST

Vic - Stupid Shaw should have *apologized*, like Letang, lol. Shades of Avery getting suspended for saying sloppy seconds

LeoS


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:43 pm EST

BTW, there is ZERO justification NOT to suspend Letang, even if it was the stupid league's usual 1 PO game. That nasty prick is a repeat offender and the slash was absolutely intentional and anyone who actually believes otherwise is a complete idiot. A two hander to the mouth. I mean WTF? WTF? How can anyone sane person who isn't consumed by the almighty phucking $$ not see that? PHUCK YOU BUTTMAN.

RF4L


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:38 pm EST

The lousy officiating program (from top to bottom) of the NHL we are all aware of But, damn that ineptitude reaches new lows come PO time. This year is, of course, no exception. Endless goal reviews, stupidly inconsistent penalty calls, and cheapshots galore. For me, it's dragging the product down and I'll be done, save for a peek here and there to catch a score (because I will be somewhat curious about who wins) when the Rangers are. Phuck you Buttman.

RF4L


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:36 pm EST

Pete! Larry heard you loud and clear! Discipline-challenged NHL lets Letang, Penguins off the hook http://nyp.st/1T0u5b3

NV94


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:22 pm EST

By the way dick rash looks like Rick Nash with 1 goal 2 assists some ferocious hits and good two way play. A pleasant surprise in the scheme of being down 2-1 so far.

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:03 pm EST

At this point and with all the bullshit in the NHL and the way the Rangers are like Jekyll and Hyde, I honestly don't know which I want more.....the Rangers to win or the Islanders to lose

TradeStar28


Wed Apr 20 2016 8:55 pm EST

But seriously, last night and the aftermath today have taken another chunk out of my desire to follow or waste a single second on this league. The fact that SHAW was suspended today for something he SAID while LETANG wasn't penalized or suspended for something he DID is absurd in the worst degree. I don't want to get political because it has nothing to do with what was said. The mere fact that words are somehow more important then actions in society today is right out of the Twilight Zone. I'm not kidding. We have one guy who commits assault with a weapon. He causes physical injury and there isn't even a penalty assessed. The league isn't interested in the slightest at even reviewing the play. And on the other hand we have a guy who said a word. That guy needs to be punished. Are we on Candid Camera again? Is this a joke????

Vic


Wed Apr 20 2016 8:46 pm EST

Boy are you guys gonna be sorry for all of this LETANG bashing. When the Rangers sign him to a big contract 8 years from now you are gonna be eating your words BIG TIME....

Vic


Wed Apr 20 2016 8:37 pm EST

I think the Capt and the coach are bad luck that has cursed the nyr ... Plain and simple ... Ask Moof Freud ....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 7:59 pm EST

THE NHL coulda rectified the Letang no call slightly by suspending him one game. Even if the intent is never known, atleast a double minor penalty should have been called. So not only did the Refs fuck the Rangers chances of potentially tying the game.....the NHL totally does the wrong thing in regard to setting an example. The best the stupid NHL could do is declare that the Letang got his stick stuck in the glass and was twisted by Dominic Moore......Really fuckin pathetic.

TradeStar28


Wed Apr 20 2016 7:30 pm EST

TD: I could live with that no goal. Especially after a quarter flip on the Brassard goal. It's that ticky tack crap on marginal penalties that get called yet when someone gets their teeth knocked out, they swallow the whistle. Nonsense... The officiating in the NHL continues to be an adventure for the fans with head scratching non/calls.

E


Wed Apr 20 2016 7:29 pm EST

The simple fact that AV has said nothing against Letang or the refs is sickening as well. It's no wonder he doesn't like Wrath, he's jealous because he sees a man with a set of balls something he wishes he had.

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 7:28 pm EST

Its kind of sad when a guy like Sully is making adjustments and winning and AV can't figure out what to do other than to put his one armed defenseman out for 24 min. I believe the Rangers can still win this series BUT IF they don't I hope this frog is bounced fast.

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 7:28 pm EST

The Letang situation makes me stick to my stomach. How is nobody in the media covering this story, he knocked out three teeth!! I'm so pissed I might accidentally cock my fist and propel it into my computer monitor right now.

pete


Wed Apr 20 2016 6:54 pm EST

Hospo - BS. The only ones who have consistently 'wanted it' have been the refs...

tdchi


Wed Apr 20 2016 6:49 pm EST

As for the Rangers, last night was an impossible game to win. They played to win, but when you get A. A good goal waved off(one millimeter offsides? I call BULLSHIT); and B. A phantom penalty to allow the game-tying-goal(HAGELIN tripped over his own goddamn stick which HE caught in the back of the Rangers' net) and C. A bunch of refs who swallow their whistles whenever the Penguins dirtbag it up(LETANG high sticking)...well...a third period like we had isn't unexpected. That's not to say I was pleased with everything the Rangers did...this team can be so goddamn good when they simplify just a little bit. They have an incredible transition game and have guys who can just control the boards...but yet when it comes down to getting shots on net, suddenly they forget all this and start playing this game that is easy to snare in the trap...I mean, it's beyond pathetic to see an absolute DOLT like SULLIVAN out-coach AV...this is a clown who shouldn't even BE in the modern NHL...the last time his dumbass was relevant in this league was before the 2004-2005 lockout. He's Tortorella Jr. and belongs in the ECHL. But yet we continue to get beat by this one-trick pony. That right there pisses me off beyond imagination...I mean, it's hockey 101...you have a team trying to clog the neutral zone with four players, DUMP AND CHASE....do you hear that AV?!? DUMP AND CHASE. Simple as that. With speedsters like KREIDER and STALBERG, this should be a style that should come easy to this team. Only problem is that it requires being ready to fight hard on the boards...and down one and with their confidence shattered, the Rangers simply didn't seem prepared to do this...This is kind of strong criticism for what was a very good all-around game won by two asshole refs...but at some point, this team has to realize you can't fold like a cheap suit at the first glimpse of adversity. OK. Rant over.

tdchi


Wed Apr 20 2016 6:43 pm EST

Oh where is Tortorella to call out the whiny Pens and their two pretty boys. Orange tang should be sitting. Can you imagine if a Raffi Torres or Maxim Lapierre did it? They'd be suspended for the playoffs and beyond. The standard should remain the same. The fact that Letang is getting nothing is another example of the uneven dolling of discipline. You are supposed to be responsible for your stick. But whatever. Always with the Pens you are dealing with an extra element.

E


Wed Apr 20 2016 6:38 pm EST

Hospo; Yeah what a priceless post game presser that would of been with Torts. But you need to be that way on and off the ice to deter it. The current temperament of this team sucks.

stepunmytoe


Wed Apr 20 2016 6:37 pm EST

Does anyone HONESTLY BELIEVE someone...ANYONE...from last night's game apologized to anyone? LETANG is a dirtbag and a liar. And If you believe he 'accidentally' got his stick up...well, allow me to sell you this nice piece of real estate. It's a bridge that goes from Manhattan to New Jersey. I call it the "GeeDub"...seriously...Letang has been pissed off this whole series because he's been getting the ever-living $hit beat out of him. Every time KREIDER gets near him, he plasters the guy. And obviously, because Letang is a thin-skinned pansy, he decided to take shit out on STALBERG, who was also playing him rough. The guy is an embarrassment. Another one-dimensional Quebecquois who has a glass jaw and can't take the heat when play dials up. Letang is the kind of guy who would like to prance all over the ice and rack up points...but the minute you touch him...I bet that scumbag cries like a little baby. I hope someone knocks his f'in teeth down his throat.

tdchi


Wed Apr 20 2016 6:21 pm EST

STEP - Yeah, contrast that with thew way TORTS spoke out against the royal treatment the league and refs give scumbag Sydney and the Pens..Yeah, the League find him, but the Rangers kicked the crap out of them...I know TORTS had to go, but sometimes I miss him.

Hospo


Wed Apr 20 2016 6:15 pm EST

I agree there is a need for frontier justice on this. However just reading some of the quotes from coach Boo Boo and some of the players has me a bit ashamed unless they are playing possum, which I doubt. I don't believe there is a coach in this league that would be this passive after having this happen to one of his players.

stepunmytoe


Wed Apr 20 2016 6:01 pm EST

Anyone who doesn't think this league gives special treatment look no further the. The pens had a ranger player done that to keasel or Crosby there would be a suspension the hilarious part is the guy admits he did it says he apologized and the league still doesn't suspend him. Even if it were inconclusive he admitted he did it and still nothing. Someone needs to send a message to the pens and destroy one of their guys. They can over turn a goal but not suspend a player for illegally knocking a players teeth out

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 5:27 pm EST

Andrew Shaw gets a game for saying a word and Letang gets zilch. I watch the nhl network show at 5. No mention or video of the assault. Turned to NBC Nhl live at.6. They never mentioned or showed the assault. I agree Letang should be crosschecked to the teeth early in the game. If I'm AV I make Hayes do it !! It just might make a man out of him. NBC spending endless time on Shaws evil word. I demand Letang get in front of the microphone and beg for forgiveness from the Ranger "community "

stepunmytoe


Wed Apr 20 2016 4:56 pm EST

Intentional or unintentional, you're still responsible for your stick. Letang should be suspended.

Rhet0ric


Wed Apr 20 2016 3:13 pm EST

‎@JennMenendez Letang said he apologized to Stalberg:"When he was skating by the bench I said sorry.I didn’t know if I hit him or I hit Dominic behind me."

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 3:04 pm EST

AV says he didn't like way Rangers responded after falling behind 2-1 in Game 3. Says there was no pushback.‎@AGrossRecord AV on Pens: "They’re playing a smart game. We need to up the ante here and get our game to be better."

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 2:59 pm EST

"Goalie Magnus Hellberg and forward Marek Hrivik have already been called up from Hartford (AHL) to serve essentially as practice players to be used only in case of extreme emergency. (To a certain extent, that also seems true now of rookie forward Oscar Lindberg). But with the Wolf Pack eliminated from the AHL playoffs, the Rangers rounded out their Black Aces’ practice squad with the following call-ups today: Forwards Chris Brown, Nicklas Jensen, Jayson Megna and Daniel Paille and defensemen Mat Bodie, Ryan Graves, and Chris Summers. "

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 2:55 pm EST

from the line generator to the excuse generator...one more new name...capt fugitive .....http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/04/25-greatest-tv-villains/the-one-armed-man-the-fugitive

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 2:46 pm EST

last time I looked there are units of 5 on ice at even strength, if one can't pass or shoot, he drags that unit down....on offense, transition and sometimes on defense....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 2:30 pm EST

You guys can yammer about MCD till the cows come home but the reason this team lost was not the D, it was the paltry 17 shots from a perimieter pop gun offense consisiting of two lines at it's best.. and a return to the skating game where the forwards constantly chose the soft and easy route compared to Saturday....and failed miserably......Of course, AV, is the common denominator of both

Hospo


Wed Apr 20 2016 2:25 pm EST

on the positive side, the blueprint is there to win this series. all our stubborn, boneheaded players have to do is follow saturday's game plan and execute it. if they do, then it will be rangers in 6.

Greschner4


Wed Apr 20 2016 2:13 pm EST

Have to agree also with Y18 on this, McD had no business telling AV that he was ready to go. You would have thought that lesson was learned last playoffs when he played while very injured. He hurt the team last year and he's doing the same this year.

Greschner4


Wed Apr 20 2016 2:06 pm EST

Im with York on this one. Mcdonagh sould have not been on the ice last night. Why chance it. When we Had Big Mac ready ad willing to go another night. He is what we needed last night. A big body who puts fear on those Penguins that go in the corner or especially camp out in front of Henrik. It worked Saturday why FU@K with it. Plus it would give our Captain more healing time. Veenyo does this crap all the time. He did it with Girardi and he did it with Klein. And know twice with McDonagh. Total BULLSHI!!!!

rangerlou


Wed Apr 20 2016 1:33 pm EST

ANDREI in my universe the better player at that moment plays vet or not.

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 1:32 pm EST

ANDREI In my universe you ice the best team possible and not put a one handed dman into the lineup and play him 24 min. So you say it's not AV, then who is it? The playoffs forced AV to play a player who shouldn't be out there, and then once he was and wasnt playing well the playoffs forced him to play him for more min than anyone else on the team? Who is this playoffs that you speak of, does he own the team, does he have pics of AV doing something he's not supposed to? I come from a universe where you don't play a Dman 24 min when he's having trouble passing teh puck because he can't grip his stick properly that's the universe I come from. You obviously come from the universe where it doesn't matter if they player has one hand as long as he says he's ready to go then he gets to play. I know according to you AV can do no wrong, Hayes can do no wrong, funny but the guys you think can do no wrong sure do a lot of wrong in everyone elses eyes again I ask did you actually watch last nights game I notice you avoid answering that question any time I ask it. You seem to comment an awful lot but it doesn't look like you saw the game so did you?

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 1:31 pm EST

E - Except for Game 2, the Pens have wanted it more for the series ..Why the switch from game to game after the right recipe was found in Game 2?...After game 2, AV was still talking about quickness and speed and "whistle-to-whistel"..Maybe he sent some mixed meassages??..I DON"T KNIOW..but I do know they played totally different last night..either by design...or tring to do it the easy/pretty way...Either way, it should have been corrcted by the coach...plain and simple....The whole feel and flow of the game was totally different...Or is that just me? And ye, the smart and resposnible play by the Pens had something to do with it but that just shows you what good caoching can do an..., cmon,..look at some of the polayers the Penns are using to do this!..

Hospo


Wed Apr 20 2016 1:22 pm EST

On Wednesday afternoon-------I can't be told when game time will be on Saturday??? Really???

thedoc85


Wed Apr 20 2016 1:22 pm EST

WIOSA couldn't disagree more, McD played a rather bad game and it wasn't his skating, that was the problem it was his passing, or should I say lack of zip on most of his passes and his shot. Who's fault is it that a guy with a broken hand is on the ice when there are healthier players who played last game when they won? You think because they only gave up two goals they played good? Well then let's just call this one a moral victory and celebrate now.

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 1:19 pm EST

York18, i think we both leave in different universes. In your universe, rookie plays in the playoffs over vets. In your universe a rookie will play over the Captain of the team. Right. In this universe, Vets will play over rookies 100% of time. It's not AV, in the playoffs, every NHL coach will play team's best D-man, a team Captain over the rook. Every single time. I would have loved to see it. So you are a team coach. Your Captain, a best D-man on the team, your number 1 guy, breaks his hand two weeks before season ends. He comes to you before game 3 and says: "Boss, i'm ready to go". You tell him: "Relax Mac, we got this. Undertaker will play instead"? Is this how u had imagine? Maybe in your universe...

andrei


Wed Apr 20 2016 1:13 pm EST

HOSPO: I don't know if it's what AV wanted. He spoke again and again about how the NYR played in game 2 is what had to continue in order to beat PIT. I just didn't see the same desperation and snarl that they had in game-2. Just couldn't seem to get it going. I think PIT was smart to come out of the gate conservative and let the NYR get their home ice boost out of the way before picking up the pace. To me though? that was not the team that played game-2. I just think PIT wanted it more and were willing to do more to get the win. The battle level was different. Maybe the NYR fell in love so much with their grit that they decided to put it in a heart shaped box and stroke it when they were alone at night.

E


Wed Apr 20 2016 1:05 pm EST

Okay, I'm rewatching this game at work this morning. Here are my takes thru 2. The defense is playing much better then I gave them credit for during the game. The trademark aggression is there and the back check support from the forwards is there. On the disallowed goal Skjei was behind the net and Stepan joined McD in position at the point. Text book stuff. Honestly, other then the bumbling idiot play which admittedly can happen. Rarely, but how many years have players practiced trying to get defenseman to collapse on each other when you're 1 on 2? But at this level you cannot do that. I say that play only works 30% where they'll collide and the puck squirts loose like it did. So, defensively I think they are more then playing well enough to win. What I do not see is traffic. Zero. There is nothing there. The second effort stuff is a real problem here. On so many occasions I'm seeing only one player in the middle and 4-guys on the perimeter. They have a size advantage on PIT's defense and they're not using it. I don't care if you are an NHL, AHL, OHL, ECHL, KHL, or anywhere else. A goalie will stop most of what he sees from the perimeter area. And too often that predictability and cute play has allowed the goalie to get square to the shooter and make an easy save with a collapsing wall of defenders. Too often, the Pens could go drink water while the NYR made endless kicks, and chips along the wall with little to show for it in terms of a shot and a second effort. The best example of how futile the NYR were on the forecheck was this chip and chase by E Staal where he rainbowed one to the corner got the puck, shielded off the defenseman to extend the play for support on the line change and just before he was going to get pushed to the boards he whipped a hard low shot to the goalies pads and no one was home to start digging for the loose puck. Hayes skipped the net and decided to go behind the net for a pass and Quickie held high on the blue line while the defenseman changed with lack of urgency. They left Staal on an island. Fortunately, when PIT saw that the NYR were 3 across at the blue line they elected to let the goalie stop the play. Staal's body language said a lot to me there. He just looked at the sky as he skated to the bench. You do all the tough work and you get no support. You simply cannot win that way. If Hayes had half a pair, he wouldn't have gone behind the net to be a dancing nanny. He would have put himself in front of the net. That's how playoff goals are scored. You play the perimeter you lose. just my observation. Yet, for some of their miscues they had this game within reach all game long till late in the game when they yielded zero offense whatsoever. Just brought the puck up, lost it along the half boards and PIT threw it back in using a 1-4 trap.

E


Wed Apr 20 2016 12:50 pm EST

It's bad enough that the top 2 lines are struggling but, for chirst's sake, can the 3rd third line do soemthing???? That's how you win PO series..Ugly goals for depth players..Most 3rd-4th liners are trying, but that's not enough....Bench Hayes..Move up Stalberg Insert Lindberg

Hospo


Wed Apr 20 2016 12:40 pm EST

E - No Schizo here...Take away about 5-10 minutes in game 2 and the Pens have easily been the better coached, SMARTER, more responsible team for the entire series...The Rangers are trying..Thier best effort was Game 2 where they contimnuously took the body..played simple hockey..forechecked...Then you look at last night's game where, despite hitting from MILLER, KREIDER and STALBERG it seemed ttha the TEAM wanted to outskate and outquick the Penguins like AV seems to want...And what did all this trying to skate through the neutral zone leasd us??? Nowhere....The Recipe was shown on Saturday, why the Change? AV and his staff were so outcoached it's not even funny....It's actually sickening and depressing...Said from the deadline, the players are there to beat most of the East,,bit it depends on coaching personnel deployment and stratgy/chemisty....The Rangers continue to miss the mark in all areas far too often,.and thy name is AV

Hospo


Wed Apr 20 2016 12:36 pm EST

Yorkie....Are you under the impression the defense under performed? This is one of the most potent offensive teams in the playoffs...and they were held to 2 goals. Not shabby at all. What is unacceptible was ONE goal scored on a young defense with a novice goalie. Coach juggling lines to get some kind of offense going is not shocking...that they didnt get going is. As always. JMHO PS....Hanj, whom I love shouldve stopped that second goal...stuff happens

WIOSA


Wed Apr 20 2016 12:22 pm EST

As proven by Keenan, Brooks, Bowman, etc your players don't have to love you while they play for you, but you win a cup with them and they'll love you forever. It's not the coaches job to be friends with the players, but AV doesn't seem to get that.

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 12:20 pm EST

BTW, here's a prediction for ya all: If the Rangers go down 3 games to 1, game 5 will see the reinsertion of Girardi!

RF4L


Wed Apr 20 2016 12:19 pm EST

E I beg to differ on some things, one is the Pens changed things up, they played more north south and when they didn't have the puck were swarming the neutral zone. You say well who's fault was it that the players weren't playing the way they are supposed to? Actually it is the coaches fault it is HIS job to have these guys playing correctly otherwise what the hell do they need him for? I'd also like to point out Sully changed his scheme and template from games 2-3 but another coach can't? I believe they take game four at home, IF the coach doesn't decide to play a hurt Dman more than anyone on the team, and thinks about maybe lighting a fire under these guys asses. I would honestly call them out to the media if I were him it's been like this all year. If I were AV I would say to the press I don't know maybe these guys don't want to win a cup this year, maybe they don't want to play for NY or the fans of this great city, because their effort certainly is supporting that theory. I would put it on the players to go out and hit everything in sight that has the puck until the pens can't walk off the ice. I would sit Hayes and Boyle even McD at this point but I'll be honest I wouldn't be shocked to see Girardi back next game knowing this coach.

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 12:18 pm EST

E: There's a couple of reasons for the anger in here now vs in the recent past: 1) We've seen this inconsistency all season long and it's ominous and therefore, creates angst among us. 2) The coach is maddening in his perceived directions (re play 'whistle to whistle', turn the other cheek, etc - note the use of the word perceived) and his obvious roster manipulations, such as breaking up the defensive pairings despite being effective and placing Boyle and Yandle together (which was part of the inexplicable juggling of the d-men). There's a 3rd factor here, too - yes invisible play from the likes of Brassard and Zuke is on the players but it's on the coach too. We've watched this crap all season long, watched as veteran after veteran after veteran turns in a half-hearted effort and never EVER gets their icetime reduced. So frustrating.

RF4L


Wed Apr 20 2016 12:15 pm EST

Well said E, well said

Greschner4


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:47 am EST

E- Don't disagree with you. We are like this all the time during the playoffs.......in fact I am sure we are like this during the regular season. I just think there is a ton of frustration going back the last few years. Yes we have won a ton of playoff games. But man, the ones we have lost have been abysmal. Just seems like there is a lack of overall effort and I think that pisses the die hards off more than any other thing....

Fotiu22


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:30 am EST

Man, in three games I don't think I've seen the NYR fans more schizophrenic. Reality: bad finish to a game, flush and move on. The series is 1-2 with a chance to tie it up at home. The sky isn't falling yet. There is no need to panic. There is no need to fire and trade everyone. The coach made a poor decision. Granted, there is no way around it but coaches coach and players play. And when a team that battered PIT all over the ice on game-2 decided to not do that on game-3 was that on the coach? How did he change the whole scheme and template in a period of 72-hours? The truth is, the NYR made one asinine mistake and it cost them a goal, momentum, everything. They shot themselves in the foot. Yeah, the refs have been deplorable. I get it. But some of it is madness. I think Boyle earned himself a seat. Don't know if he will get one. Put that on the coach. But, for The sake of Zeus' ears stick to reality. We saw collective panic after game one, confidence and even hubris after game two, and now we are back to panic again. I don't get it. This is not uncharted waters for this NYR team. If they are ousted we can spend an entire summer wondering how they'll remake this team but right now? Come back from the ledge.

E


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:18 am EST

I will agree that Brass has been non existent the entire series which is a huge issue when you aren't scoring goals.

Fotiu22


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:17 am EST

and did the NHL neuter the Pens? By my count there was a dangerous board, two slashes to the back of the knees and a baseball swing of a stick to the teeth....all done by the Pens that went unpenalized. So the NHL has neutered the Rangers and not the Pens? We need to get as dirty as the Pens are right now. And that means getting dirty goals as well. The team is either not willing to get dirty (which means we are a bunch of no heart pussies) or they are being told by the coach that they will have a seat on the bench if they take one of these types of penalties. Which is it?

Fotiu22


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:13 am EST

andrei- Maybe not play big Mac instead of McD but sure as hell play him over Boyle who is brutal. And it's not all on the coach......but you would think that if the Pens were going to the trap that maybe the coach would maybe mention that we shouldn't be stick handling through the neutral zone.....maybe just once? Or maybe he did and the players didn't listen?

Fotiu22


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:06 am EST

WIOSA, not the coach? Inserts a hurt Dman who was struggling and what does he do plays him more, who's fault is that I'm curious? Takes the D pairings after a strong first period and switches them around, who's fault was that, the players again? Continues to force Hayes on the ice despite sucking tremendously, who's fault is that again? Can't seem to light an ass under this team if he had a blow torch which is his job, so who's fault is that again? Finally, changes the line up after a win, who's fault is that?

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 11:04 am EST

KIS I'm with E you keep Yandle for a couple reasons, one he pairs really well with Wrath, these guys genuinely like each other and like to play together you can see the chemistry that they have. They ride to the rink and game together you can't force that kind of thing it's either there or it isn't and I wouldn't be so fast to let that go.............ANDREI once again I have to ask did you watch the game? Did you see how bad McD played? Did you see how many bad plays he made for scoring chances? Ever hear the saying if it ain't broke don't fix it? Well AV fixed it, or should I say broke it last night. In case you aren't keeping track the Pens have out played the Rangers for two games now. In case you missed it, which you seem to be missing a lot lately the players are being blamed, one who you seem thinks should be put in despite playing with a busted hand. Where was your hero Hayes, let me help you since you missed the game turning the puck over every time he touched the damn thing. He might as well wore a pens Jersey last night. Boyle will be gone come summer and you managed one thing right in your post this should be the end of the road for this collective group.

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 10:59 am EST

We werent able to score in our own building , against. a weak defense anda 21 year old rookie goalie in jis first playoff game in MSG. I agree witj Andei this was not the coach

WIOSA


Wed Apr 20 2016 10:44 am EST

Man, this used to be the best Rangers forum and now... reading most of the posts and let me try to sum it up... Fire AV... Did i miss anything? Has anything chnged since last November/December/January? I know the unified love fest here for Big mac, but AV should have kept him in the line up over your best D-man and captain of the team? Seriously?? So last game AV out coached Mike Sullivan and last night he was out coached by Sully, because team lost 2-1? well, 3-1, but who is counting... Av should be fired because he lost his team, same team that demolished Pens last game? So when Rangers will win the game tomorrow night, AV will out-coach Sully again? This is just too funny. People, welcome to 21 st century. Goons are out of NHL. AV didn't neuter the team, NHL did. Let me ask another question. At what point the blame should be given to the actual players, instead of the head coach? Did AV was the one who came out swinging and hitting and suddenly stop hitting midway through the game and decided to tell his players to stop attacking? Where were Zuk and Brass last night. Where was Stepan and his $6.5 mil paycheck? MIA, that's where... WTF Boyle was thinking on the 2nd goal last night. Why team as a whole, stopped attacking after 1st period ended?? Folks, this is the end of the road for this current collection of players.

andrei


Wed Apr 20 2016 10:41 am EST

KIS: Yandle yields the team a paltry 50-points and you wanna broom him because he is a defensive liability? How many offensive defenseman in the world aren't liabilities? It's the nature of being an offensive defenseman. You look for opportunities to jump up into the play. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. But a guy like Yandle has an incredible effect on the opposing team in their own zone. Teams know, that if they overcommit down low in their zone and the NYR pump it back to the points, they stand to leave a lane that a guy like Yandle will jump into and send a defense scrambling to form up a wall. And if you get doubles on traffic, he will tee someone up with a good look. And sometimes that type of stuff will add to problems going the other way. I watched Drew Doughty give up 2-odd mans in his series thus far. He's a bum. LA should dump him.

E


Wed Apr 20 2016 10:16 am EST

We won't do anything to Letang. Nash was our best hitter yesterday for Christ sakes. AV has cut off the collective balls of this team.

Fotiu22


Wed Apr 20 2016 10:14 am EST

Sather needs to go nuts on the league about the Letang slash...As bad as I have seen in awhile....Hell, remember Hags getting suspended against Ottawa in the playoffs....Comare that to this....If nothing happens the Rangers need to hurt Letang on the first shift Thursday....

PJ


Wed Apr 20 2016 10:02 am EST

The Rangers confirmed that Letang's slash was to Stalberg's face, not his neck, and that as a result Stalberg lost several teeth. Letang will not have a hearing for his slash on Stalberg.....if that had happened to Cindy, then you gotta figure a presidential commission would have been started and criminal charges would have been issued.

Greschner4


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:53 am EST

KIS - whoever you put on the line with E Stall is a major upgrade over Hayes

Greschner4


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:46 am EST

If we are going to use the line generator why dont we put Kreider and miller with E staal. that would be a big rough line. Dont know if Pitt has the players to go against that line. Put Step with Fast and Stallberg and Nash back with Zucc and Brassard. sit Hayes and have Lindberg Moore and Glass. the big thing I like is that Kreider Staal and miller. Would be interesting. Nash ahs had success with Zucc and Brass. although I dont think it matters where you put him especially during the playoffs. I never forget Yorkie telling us before Nash got her, It doesn't matter who he plays with it will be the same. Good players dont make him better and he doesnt make other players better

KIS


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:46 am EST

I'm psyched for a new coach next year.

hipcheck


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:38 am EST

Sit Hayes and bring in OL, if you have to dress McD then please sit Boyle for Mcl. Please put E. Stall back on center and team him up with Nash.....Last but not least, can we stop playing tiddlywinks with the puck in the d-zone. if there isn't a breakout pass, then just move the puck up the ice instead of holding the puck and getting it taken from you.

Greschner4


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:23 am EST

We've seen this before, it used to even baffle Torts when he was here. For whatever reason, these players from time to time, especially the homegrown "core group" just find ways to lose and look embarrasing when they have no reason too.

Greschner4


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:18 am EST

Yorkie, let me just make sure I understand you. do you think AV should be our coach next year? lol I would get Yandle out of here as well Fuck em for the good he does he sucks defensively. He willl want to much money. If he will play for under 5 fine keep him but if he is looking for 7 bye bye. go with Stall and Skje, Klein and Wrath. you can pick up inexpensive journeymen for dmen 5&6

KIS


Wed Apr 20 2016 9:16 am EST

York18 - Bravo!...Bravo!

RF73


Wed Apr 20 2016 8:52 am EST

I'm so disgusted. AV is out coached AGAIN, tinkers with his lineup despite winning AGAIN, the team gives a half ass effort AGAIN, AV plays his injured Dman with one hand the most min AGAIN! The question is will we have to see this ahole next year AGAIN?!?!??! They played their most physical hockey of the year last game coincidence that Wrath was playing and in the locker room? Maybe but doubtful. The coach puts Yandle and Boyle out at the same time, was that AV, or ULF? Either way both should be canned for that stupidity alone. They tinker with the pairs despite having a strong period and up by a goal to get the injured capt more ice time? Un F'n Believable! You can't make this stuff up. Hayes was horrible last night from start to finish and BOB don't blame Staal that his center can't get the puck into the offensive zone. Watch Staal he was a one man show last night with no support. Hayes has a ton of talent and before the rest of the league figures out that his talent is the hope for something better that isn't going to happen move this kid and getting something of worth. I will return to trading away the capt he can bring back a good return to help retool this team. I'd rather keep Klein, Yandle, Wrath, Skeij, and Staal and trade away Girardi and McD right about now, while we are there Nash can go too. Those are a lot of big names gone and can bring back a decent haul IMO. AV needs to go yesterday he has lost this team. Any coincidence that the pens PK got super good once Hags arrived and ours sucks? Finally dump and chase hit the friggin D hit anything that moves and while we are at it glass needs to run Letang and take the suspension for the team, concuss that POS oh and AV needs to go if I haven't said it enough times already.

York18


Wed Apr 20 2016 8:42 am EST

Gotta say that was an offensive shamefest yesterday, not unlike the last 2 games in MSG against the Bolts last year. How and why it's allowed to persist is beyond me.

RF4L


Wed Apr 20 2016 8:40 am EST

That's 4 straight Playoff Home Losses.....and as pathetic an effort after the 1st Period as game's 5 and 7 last year against Tampa....

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 20 2016 8:37 am EST

Watched that Letang going all Paul Bunyon again and it was a nasty intentional swing to the face. I am sure it will go unpunished.

Fotiu22


Wed Apr 20 2016 8:19 am EST

Thank god they didn't call LeTang for that penalty. We would have launched 2 pitiful shots and given up a shorthanded goal.

MelvilleFred


Wed Apr 20 2016 8:02 am EST

LOL...of course the coach plays the defenseman with 1 hand the most. LOL.

RF4L


Wed Apr 20 2016 7:21 am EST

Well, at least there is one thing that I have learned from this series. You always here people (sports announcers) asking why is it Letang is never considered up there with the best ? It's because HE IS AN ASS-WHOLE !

Newfie_Ranger


Wed Apr 20 2016 5:58 am EST

They all knew they had to dump it but didnt. Is there nobody on that bench that has the balls to demand that they do what it takes to win ? Not even Boo Boo? Prancing p#s#ies ! AV has run his course.

stepunmytoe


Wed Apr 20 2016 4:18 am EST

"Rangers captain Ryan McDonagh logged a game-high 22:48"

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 4:10 am EST

"12) So the Rangers, during this exemplary five-season run are now a disturbing 10-22 in games after wins within a series. With all the great things you can say about this team’s pedigree, it’s will, its onions, whatever, that tells you something about how they respond to games they don’t absolutely have to have. -"

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 3:41 am EST

"Miller’s back skate appeared to be off the ice, and the goal was wiped off the board, keeping the game scoreless. “The purpose of that rule being in place is to get it right,” Rangers coach Alain Vigneault said. “And it was the right call.”....the purpose of a coach is to get it right....weknow.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 3:39 am EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/20/letangs-missed-cheap-shot-may-have-been-suspension-worthy/

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 3:33 am EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/19/rangers-trailing-series-due-to-stubborn-boneheaded-strategy/

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 3:19 am EST

how does capt boo boo believe he can help his team with 1 good hand ?..and his coach agrees with him ..( then again these 2 think playing with a broken ankle is ok too..)......27) I thought Ryan McDonagh looked pretty good for a guy with one good hand, although there was one time when he could have slapped a shot and he hesitated. He did take a smaller slapper later. -

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 3:14 am EST

how did both refs not call that high stick slash drawing blood penalty....?....send the tape in veenyo, it won't cost you a timeout.....keep that in your fancy pants pocket....how both the players and coaches don't understand blacknbue hockey is beyond comprehension...and how no one went after le-orange-tang is par for their philosophy....and the usual game plan stick to it stupidity....keep trying to play pretty, and you'll be toast .....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 3:03 am EST

25) So with that in mind, I’m pretty certain that Letang is going to get off scott-free for Duncan Keith-ing Viktor Stalberg with his stick and cutting open his face, right in front of the official there, a wild swipe that looked extremely intentional. (VIDEO BELOW) No idea how the NHLDOWITPAWGCS thinks this is OK in its wildest dreams. It’s not OK. But they won’t do squat about it. Take it to the bank. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/20/game-3-rangers-penguins-in-review-2/#sthash.FhovCEQe.dpuf

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 2:53 am EST

6) But. There’s always a but. The Rangers have had fits with teams that effectively trap, or whatever you call it that Smilin’ Mike Sullivan has his Penguins doing between the blue lines, where the game was lost, and where Pittsburgh just threw a net over the Rangers’ offense once it had the lead. 7) Part of it, I have thought, is that this Rangers team loves the style of play it is allowed to employ, the counter-attacking, speed through the neutral zone style. The latitude to be creative and make plays. And because it has creative players, who actually sometimes think they’re more creative than they actually are, they often get rush-happy. And therefore unwilling to be the lunch-pail, get it in and go get it team they have been at other times these last four years. 8) If you want to be a fancy boy against the trap, you’re going to look foolish, and spend a lot of time skating back to the bench shaking your head. Which is what the Rangers spent a lot of time doing in the third period in which they came up with a whopping four shots on rookie goalie Matt Murray. That’s after a whopping seven in the second period. They have had fits with the trap all season long. Why? 9) “That’s the biggest thing we have to learn from tonight, more so than anything,” Derek Stepan said, “is we did a terrible job of getting through the neutral zone and that is exactly the reason why we didn’t get a single look the whole third period, because we did such a poor job of coming through the neutral zone. They just have four guys between the blue and the red line. It’s got to be a real simple play. It’s got to be the red line, chip it in, and go get it, because what we did, we just kept on trying to get through it, and this is not going to work. We were stubborn…. Playoff hockey, it’s a real simple game. It’s get it to the red line and get it deep. That’s how you’re going to get it in their zone. They have four guys in the neutral zone. You’re not going to get it through pretty. You have to get it in deep and work as a five-man unit to get it back.” - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/20/game-3-rangers-penguins-in-review-2/#sthash.FhovCEQe.dpuf

stevielegs


Wed Apr 20 2016 2:50 am EST

21) Not so Fast. Penguins coach Mike Sullivan challenged the play, and video review showed that Miller’s skate was offside by millimeters, thus wiping out the goal. Not going to complain about the call whatsoever, and neither did the Rangers, because it was the right call. 22) What I will say about the coach’s challenge on off-side plays: A) that so many goals are being taken off the board kind of tells you that linesmen have missed thousands and thousands of off-side calls; B) that is this really what the goal-starved NHL wants, goals disallowed because of a quarter of an inch that had no bearing on the play; and C) if they want to keep this silly rule, maybe they should consider making the blue lines much more narrow, which would help the replay, I think, because you don’t have the skate or the puck on the line as long. I think it would make it clearer which one crossed first. Not exactly sure why we need blue lines so wide anyway. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/20/game-3-rangers-penguins-in-review-2/#sthash.FhovCEQe.dpuf

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 11:50 pm EST

Bob -exactly..on your posts..Again, the Rangers have to win spite of AV..Outcoached by Mike Sullivan again..Sullivan getting more from less..AV getting minimal during 2 of the 3 games....

Hospo


Tue Apr 19 2016 11:32 pm EST

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/suspend-him-or-not-kris-letang-gets-away-with-an-absurdly-violent-slash-in-game-3/

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 10:42 pm EST

The coach guessed & he guessed wrong... I hope he's gone before next season begins

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 10:37 pm EST

How does Letang not hear from the NHL DPS after the stick attack on Stalberg? Well, the team he plays for certainly helps him.

Bob


Tue Apr 19 2016 10:25 pm EST

Well AV was schooled by Sullivan in 2 of the 3 games so far.

Bob


Tue Apr 19 2016 10:17 pm EST

I think AV switched the pairs at the start of the 3rd. I don't get it. McD played. Just weird. Another befuddling AV roster manipulation.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 10:10 pm EST

I do think it's direct result of capt boo boo being in the lineup. and not really close to 80% ..my question is marc staal playing injured with only 13 minutes toi ?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 10:03 pm EST

Bob play pick or whack a coach..your choice.....probably ulfaa....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:55 pm EST

What moron puts Boyle and Yandle out there together?

Bob


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:42 pm EST

. Rule 83 – Off-side 83.1 Off-side - Players of the attacking team must not precede the puck into the attacking zone. The position of the player’s skates and not that of his stick shall be the determining factor in all instances in deciding an off-side. A player is off-side when both skates are completely over the leading edge of the blue line involved in the play. A player is on-side when either of his skates are in contact with, or on his own side of the line, at the instant the puck completely crosses the leading edge of the blue line regardless of the position of his stick. However, a player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered “off-side,” provided he had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the blue line. It should be noted that while the position of the player’s skates is what determines whether a player is “off-side,” nevertheless the question of an “off-side” never arises until the puck has completely crossed the leading edge of the blue line at which time the decision is to be made. If a player legally carries or passes the puck back into his own defending zone while a player of the opposing team is in such defending zone, the off-side shall be ignored and play permi..http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2014-2015-rulebook.pdf

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:29 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/19/rangers-drop-pivotal-game-3-because-of-one-costly-miscue/

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:27 pm EST

He makes them has them and gives them to his teamates ... That's boo boo boos

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:26 pm EST

Pretty simple there tonight..Team that wanted it more and played a smarter and more disciplined game (especially the 2nd half), and were coached better, won the game. ...The PP difference was huge also...Rangers had little flow offensively and there are only tow lines that have a chance of scoring...Have no problem with MCD playing, it was a TEAM (including and especailly Coach) loss...Just like the results of the first tow games where the better team won.....Rangers can do it Thursday, but will the coach and Penguins let them ?

Hospo


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:25 pm EST

Sorry Capt Boo Boo

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:24 pm EST

New name Capt boo boo ...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:17 pm EST

We've got a shutout going and he shuffles the D ? Hayes should sit instead of Glass IMO. How many times were we in the offensive zone, the puck is rolling around the boards to the point, your waiting for the Dman and he was nowhere in site ? Maddening. McD slow to get up at least 3 times from my count tonight. Might not make it out of the next game with his Boo Boo.

stepunmytoe


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:11 pm EST

Valliquette would make a good assistant eye in the sky coach ....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:10 pm EST

Moof that toi is a joke ... Staal needs to be pushed not benched ... Leaver it to beaver and his cleavers ...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:08 pm EST

This team makes me want to smash my head against a wall...

Tucc


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:07 pm EST

AV sounds like he really doesn't give a shit....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:06 pm EST

Marc Staal with just 12:56 TOI tonight

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:59 pm EST

Here he is coach blame yo

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:57 pm EST

Here's a good idea................let's not put the puck on the rookie goalie in his first playoff game. Where was the 3rd line tonight? No zone time, no cycle and no impact. The picks surrendered for Eric Staal are looking wasted so far.

Bob


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:56 pm EST

Another late period goal....Never ends....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:54 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSsUoxlSADk

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:54 pm EST

Fish toupee claiming mealy mouth Capt looked good... Need an eye dr appt al trout wig

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:52 pm EST

Moof who's smoking it ?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:51 pm EST

Bazzer ?How long have you been lurking??? It should be mandatory that all lurkers have to reveal themselves at least once when the playoff starts... Who's policing this joint?

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:50 pm EST

32 pm EST capt parmenter is back in....oh joy.... stevielegs ... Coach and player should be ashamed of themselves ... And that challenged goal took some wind out ....onside they win that game ...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:49 pm EST

I can't believe we got gutted for two 2nd rounders for Eric Staal. Living here in the Raleigh, NC area....I play hockey with guys who are loyal Canes fans.....and they say that E. Staal is toast and not to expect anything close to his heyday

TradeStar28


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:49 pm EST

Trade, Respectfully, No Sir ! Sit Hayes....

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:49 pm EST

Disgusted. Coach has to go. This loss is on him

bazzer


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:48 pm EST

Veenyo always plays players that are still mangled FU@K HIM!!!

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:48 pm EST

Stevie: you keep saying it man, but he is easier to move than Marc Staal..... I don't know about moving the Capt. though...

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:47 pm EST

U can't really point a finger at anyone tonight except the team as a whole......From the top line down to our shitty 4th line. Not good enough........Bring in Oscar the Grouch and sit Tanner Glasstky

TradeStar28


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:46 pm EST

Glass with just over 8minutes, Hayes with just over 8minutes earned himself the seats for next game IMO, dress Lindburg & put him on Staals wing..... Fuckin sit McDonagh along with Girardi & dress McIlrath.... I mean shit, WTF?

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:46 pm EST

Stevie - AV really has no choice of his captain says he's ready to go. I put this on him, if you are injured and are limited in what you can do, you don't force your coaches hand to put you in.

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:45 pm EST

Can not understand a lineup change after a very solid win. AV......Winning!

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:44 pm EST

York the guy to trade is Capt parmenter he thinks he's a hero ... He's a goat ... Diaz would have been better than parmenter ...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:44 pm EST

Y18: yup, for everyone except coach A-Vishysoisse

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:43 pm EST

I just don't get it. Why did they stop hitting? They were punishing the Penguins then just stopped, wtf?

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:43 pm EST

York: Sure has - was answered like 4 months ago. Alas, the coach never even heard the damn question...

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:42 pm EST

Beaten by a backup goalie and essentially half an AHL defense. Blaahhhh. Again a better effort than the regular season but not enough.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:41 pm EST

I guess the theory of consistent effort and being physical is more present when Wrath is in the lineup has been answered

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:41 pm EST

Way to go veenyo ... Couldn't leave the lineup alone ... Game 7 redux

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:41 pm EST

F@#$ Yandle and F!@# Boyle and F$%^& whoever puts them together!

Topovski


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:41 pm EST

Wonder who's fault this loss is?

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:41 pm EST

Miller and Zuc blew it at the end there. Couldn't keep it in.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:41 pm EST

Didn't expect this but guess I should have.....Don't get it.....Just don't get it....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:40 pm EST

Fuck You Veenyo

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:40 pm EST

17 shots and that's what you get. A loss. More of what we've seen all too much of.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:39 pm EST

Great play Capt go home

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:39 pm EST

Just not good enough. No forecheck whatsoever. Powerplay useless as usual. Effort maybe ok for a regular season game. Too many guys once again no shows. Just not good enough all around. And if that stupid ahole of a coach ever puts yandle and Boyle on together they should lynch him in time square

Fotiu22


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:39 pm EST

Zucc blew it....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:38 pm EST

Moron pulling gank too soon

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:38 pm EST

Exhausting.....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:36 pm EST

How many times over the years have we seen THIS game?

Bob


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:36 pm EST

Has parmenter even taken a sog ?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:35 pm EST

AV, do not pull the goalie!

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:35 pm EST

Pens can do what they want now....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:35 pm EST

Can someone please take Cullen out?

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:35 pm EST

capt smashes the guy but he comes back and spears at hank no response from either d man....whistle to whistle blows....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:33 pm EST

RF: I clamored all day & yesterday that McD should not play... Pitt would be afraid to go up their left side with McIlrath dressed..... The only thing I like about this coach is that he treats the reporters with patience in the after game interviews..............

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:33 pm EST

17 shots....WTF

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:33 pm EST

Bad idea on playing our Captain

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:33 pm EST

I can't believe I once again fell for it and got optimistic. This 3rd period looks like game 7 from last year against Tampa.

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:31 pm EST

Who needs the goal to tie?...Come on....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:30 pm EST

Nash will be out for the rest of this series.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:30 pm EST

Nash is blasting people....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:30 pm EST

Pens feeling it....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:29 pm EST

Out coached by Sully !!! Hahahahahahaha

stepunmytoe


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:29 pm EST

Rangers gotta start forechecking. Stop looking for that breakout pass and rush the offensive zone as a 5 man unit

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:28 pm EST

Mfred that Capt has no business playing this game that's why they are flipping d men

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:28 pm EST

Seriously? AV has been mixing lines all season long. Nothing new there.

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:26 pm EST

MFred: Because AV thinks he's smarter than most of us. Inexplicable. This guy seems to have no feeling for the pulse of his team.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:26 pm EST

Have made it way too easy for this goalie....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:25 pm EST

Just a thought....why did AV mix up the D in the 3rd. 15 shots in the 3rd....3 words for this team NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!

MelvilleFred


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:24 pm EST

Nearly 12 minutes into the 3rd and the juggernaut Rangers' offense with 2 shots. SIGH

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:24 pm EST

Oh I will be so happy when Boyle is gone....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:23 pm EST

Sorry folks but Pittsburgh has controlled this game, save for a few little spurts by NY, since Skidney won the opening FO.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:23 pm EST

Paging E. Stall, paging E. Stall. The playoffs have started, please report to the ice.

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:22 pm EST

Have to want this bad....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:22 pm EST

15 shots despite 4 PPs...SIGH

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:22 pm EST

Rangers are on home ice, right????????

rngrsans


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:22 pm EST

High percentage shot Kreider.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:22 pm EST

15 shots with 10 minutes to go. Not enough.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:21 pm EST

Zebras have swallowed their whistles

Fotiu22


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:21 pm EST

Hayes is a joke....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:21 pm EST

Anybody seen "big game brass"??

Fotiu22


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:20 pm EST

Nash tripped....Pens go up and whistles go away....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:20 pm EST

Tough to call those on Nash when he falls down like an 8 year old house league player all the time.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:20 pm EST

Yea our powerplay sucks but how do you miss a stick to the face like that? All 4 zebras out there missed it??

Fotiu22


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:19 pm EST

Are you kidding me??????

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:19 pm EST

Sorry but McD should NOT be playing.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:19 pm EST

Another missed call with Stalberg hit in face and now Nash tripped

ges999


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:19 pm EST

Same crap from this team...1 goal and they start playing "not to lose". Goals let in the final minute of play...stupid turnovers...poor passing....no shooting. This goalie has not played a playoff before. Its OUR DAMN BUILDING..

WIOSA


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:19 pm EST

Pens D can be had....More pressure....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:18 pm EST

Popgun offense. Again. SIGH

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:18 pm EST

AND 0 ppg's........13 SOG? thats not a playoff game

rngrsans


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:17 pm EST

I think a Ranger has to be lying in his own pool of blood for a call to be made.

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:17 pm EST

LOL...2 officials can't see that stick in the face. Idiots. If/when the Rangers go out, I'll be another Canadian who won't be watching this garbage.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:17 pm EST

It's only blood. Why would that be a penalty.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:17 pm EST

No call....Bullshit....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:16 pm EST

After a 1 goal lead Rangers waiting to lose again

rngrsans


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:15 pm EST

Gresh maybe the coaches should telling them that instead of the bs ' come on boys '

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:15 pm EST

Not enough chances....Can't wait have to step it up....

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:14 pm EST

Rangers looking like they did so often in the regular season, not helped by the stupid coach who mixed up his defensive pairings. Get it together boys....

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:14 pm EST

Rangers have stopped hitting. They are getting away from the game plan. Keep hitting, create those turnovers.

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:13 pm EST

Probably because Capt parmenter can't keep up

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:13 pm EST

Everyone seems to have a case of the jitters right now.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:13 pm EST

Too smart for their own good. Boyle should have sat for Mac. AV has always liked Boyle-Yandle. Never understood why

stepunmytoe


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:13 pm EST

Rangers are playing just ok.....Not much sustained pressure or good scoring chances in a long time.

TradeStar28


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:12 pm EST

SHOOT THE PUCK!

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:12 pm EST

Another brilliant play by Dan Boyle.

Bob


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:12 pm EST

Wafj yandle Boyle

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:11 pm EST

And there you go. Boyle and Yandle together (for some inexplicable reason) and GOAL PITTSBURGH!

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:11 pm EST

Boyle and Yandle? Fire AV please

Fotiu22


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:11 pm EST

OMG, what is AV doing switching up the d pairings??

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:09 pm EST

Klein hit the Pig and Whistle for a few drinks between periods??

Fotiu22


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:08 pm EST

Rangers sitting on their tie here???

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:06 pm EST

What the hell Hank? That was some pretty good stick play behind your own net. Who woulda thunk?

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:05 pm EST

Staal/Hayes/Fast line invisible tonight.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:05 pm EST

even ahkneel gets it, stop looking for highlight reel goals...go dirty....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:04 pm EST

Rangers only 13 shots on net so far. Ain't gonna cut it.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:02 pm EST

ANOTHER..as in 50 something, goal let in with less than 2 minutes left in the period. WTH???

WIOSA


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:01 pm EST

FU@K NBC. They are so far Crosby's AZZ it's freaking Hilarious!!!

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:00 pm EST

That is section 113.

ges999


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:00 pm EST

Hip, Rangers did have 4 powerplays and nothing.... So while refs are doing their best to give Pits an advantage, Rangers needed to force Pits to pay for all the penalties that were called.

andrei


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:00 pm EST

I sit in section 123 and from my angle it looked Hags' stick got caught in the net but I also think Staal's stick was near Hags' midsection. Loved that Liam Neesom was back doing the narration in the beginning and that they brought back Baba O'Reilly for the opening. It has been awhile since the garden was that loud after Nash's goal. McD definitely showing rust. This game is very quick pace. If Big Mac was playing I don't think he would have seen much time. On to the third period. Let's go RANGERS!

ges999


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:59 pm EST

These last minute goals are a killer!!

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:59 pm EST

These last minute goals are a killer!!

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:54 pm EST

The NYR could be up 5-0 and the NBC boys would still be talking about how great Pitt is.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:49 pm EST

A disallowed goal, and then a luck goal... always painful.

hipcheck


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:47 pm EST

Bullshit penalty on Staal.......Go watch the Preds or Kings play and see what Shea Weber and Drew Doughty get away with in the playoffs........Un fuckin real

TradeStar28


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:47 pm EST

FU. appropriate score for the game.... Man, how does he still has a job.....

andrei


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:46 pm EST

See Sully was just reassuring Crosby that Buttman will make sure he gets all the calls.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:46 pm EST

Watched the replay a couple of times and it sure looks to me like Hagelin got his stick caught in the net and fell down

Fotiu22


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:46 pm EST

Yeah, you stupid a-hole ' an appropriate score'. Also appropriate? You getting punched hard. In the face.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:45 pm EST

Well there you go. Dumb penalty and the game is tied.

Bob


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:44 pm EST

York: I said the same thing with a minute to go in the 1st and it worked. Alas, I have no power. If I did Malkin's leg would be broken.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:44 pm EST

challenge that

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:43 pm EST

Knew that was coming. Now time for Dickiletti to gush about the ugly birds.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:43 pm EST

bs dive thanks ref

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:43 pm EST

RF had to jinx them didn't you

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:43 pm EST

So what's the call on Staal? WTF? Stupid league...

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:42 pm EST

Did Staal really haul down Hagelin? Looked weak to me.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:41 pm EST

Please PLEASE end this period without being scored on....

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:40 pm EST

OMG these guys are so full of shite McD so good?

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:37 pm EST

boyle gave crybaby a whiplash shot...nice ....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:37 pm EST

Damn, Bryan Rust is the new John Druce.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:35 pm EST

Need some sustained pressure here - too much play in the Rangers end.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:34 pm EST

Damn McD created all this with a give away.....geeesh. The King bails him out TWICE!

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:34 pm EST

McD another great pass

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:34 pm EST

5 sog? Cmmon we cant sit on a 1 goal lead

WIOSA


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:33 pm EST

Who's this punk ass Rust? And someone needs to punch both Cullen and Dickiletti right in their faces.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:33 pm EST

BOYLE even hit Crosby damn hard

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:31 pm EST

And JT Miller - beast mode...

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:30 pm EST

Oh look bambi on ice all 6-5 230lbs of him

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:29 pm EST

Rhet: Yes, I agree with you - your discomfort is obvious.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:28 pm EST

LMAO RF You're right I should start off with an I concur in my post LOL

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:28 pm EST

Love the playoff Stalberg. He has picked it up a notch !!

stepunmytoe


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:27 pm EST

What a fabulous shift by Stalberg....love this guy!

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:26 pm EST

York..... Well stop that. it makes me uncomfortable when people agree with me :)

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:26 pm EST

Fire AreNOT !!!

stepunmytoe


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:26 pm EST

York: Tis cool dude - people aren't used to you agreeing with them!

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:25 pm EST

Rhet I was agreeing with you.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:25 pm EST

The stupid birds so aggressive killing penalties here.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:23 pm EST

York... I wasn't claiming Hayes was good at all. In fact he's gotten worse as the games gone along.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:22 pm EST

RHET Hayes has been horrible this game, bad the series horrible this game and I don't care about the talent tag, I hope his talent gets this team a good return

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:22 pm EST

Mac in for Boyle would have been the better play tonight

stepunmytoe


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:21 pm EST

Decline the penalty!!

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:21 pm EST

Hayes is a mess right now.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:18 pm EST

McD is not right he's making bad reads and passes.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:18 pm EST

wtf is parmenter doing out on the pp...absurd weknow...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:18 pm EST

All right enough with friggin Boyle on the PP!

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:18 pm EST

Eric Staal looks happy to be back in the playoffs doesn't he?

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:17 pm EST

Shitbox PP again. Geesh.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:17 pm EST

Shitbox PP again. Geesh.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:17 pm EST

Nash scores I can not believe my eyes!

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:16 pm EST

stevie: Good point. My bad.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:16 pm EST

York: Being saying that on here about Kessel for years. Ridiculously blessed with a God given set of skills. If he had Steve Stamkos dedication and work ethic, imagine what he'd be doing?

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:15 pm EST

rf4l that was a shortie not a ppg...what's that stat 11 ppg in his career?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:15 pm EST

'What? Why me? What did I do? What about the Ranger player?' said the whiny ugly bird.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:14 pm EST

Say what you will when Kessel feels like playing that guy is just sick good.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:12 pm EST

That might be the first time all season that Nash looked like Nash to me.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:12 pm EST

Like I said before the series started he has hot streaks every year save for this one which means he's do.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:12 pm EST

Sorry but it seems so far when the Rangers are running around defensively McD is out there. His positioning is off and he's putting Skeji out of sorts, too.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:11 pm EST

LOLOL...that's his 11th PO goal. Ever. LOL

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:11 pm EST

moof you mean a camel toe or a c hair?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:10 pm EST

What a freakin' shot that was....geeesh, if he gets hot, watch out.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:10 pm EST

The $7.8 million dollar man! NASH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD FOR HIM !!!!!!!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:10 pm EST

DICK RASH!!!

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:10 pm EST

St. Nash...YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:10 pm EST

FUCKING FINALLY.... RICK NASH!!!!

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:09 pm EST

Stevie: it depends whether or not it's a split hoof....

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:09 pm EST

More bs.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:08 pm EST

This is the offside play I was talking about yesterday. If it was onside as soon as the puck touches the blue line instead of completely crossing it and the players skate has not fully passed the blue line that kind of play would be on side 99 times out of 100. Almost no need for replay challanges. JMHO and worth looking into.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:06 pm EST

He still hates the NYR for the Joe Sakic offer sheet. No doubt about it.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:05 pm EST

moof if his foot is in the air but 6-12 inches behind the blue line, it's still offside?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:04 pm EST

Rf4l...lol. Bettman doesnt hate any Canadian with 500 million Anerican. Hey he hates the Dolans and theyve got billions.

WIOSA


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:04 pm EST

rf4l it's his crush on crybaby and stupid mario ....in this series....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:02 pm EST

Stevie: interesting argument / point that the back skate blade need NOT be on the ice if it doesn't cross the plane of the blueline...

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:01 pm EST

Im working so Im sneaking peajs at the game....@$!# that the goal was on offside. Were winning on face offs and hits? Also offsides or not we can score on Murray...keep it up boys.. LGR

WIOSA


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:59 pm EST

The whole review thing is a mess. Of course, this is a league run by that idiot Buttman, who hates Canadians.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:58 pm EST

BTW, I give the edge in terms of territorial play to the stupid birds but I think the Rangers had the 2 best scoring chances (and that's not including the PP call back thing, which is 2 more). Rangers 16 hits and dumb birds 10.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:56 pm EST

step that's been going on all year...Nash leads the charge back to the bench....their changes are many times ill-timed........

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:55 pm EST

Another game, another one-sided officiating. While I'm on the toping, FIRI Nothen and Shitiletti!!!! What a couple unlistenable morons. Joe, u duche, Staal did not commit the penalty. It was a dive....

andrei


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:54 pm EST

offside is bs if the guy's skate doesn't cross the plane of the blue line into the white, it should not be offside...instead they have to drag their skate on the ice....nonsense....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:50 pm EST

What was going on with that PP ? It seemed like the Rangers were changing lines too much. Anyone notice that ?

stepunmytoe


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:50 pm EST

York: but doesn't the lower hand absorb more shock from the follow thru?

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:50 pm EST

I miss Jackoff!!!

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:49 pm EST

Gates = Hayes

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:48 pm EST

Rhet if he can't really pass he shouldn't be playing

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:47 pm EST

I want to see dizzy gates drop them he might go bonkers ...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:47 pm EST

Stevie... What it means is that he shouldn't be on the PP. He can still be effective defensively.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:47 pm EST

WTF was the icing for? Please, PLEASE Rangers don't end the first losing 1 0.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:46 pm EST

MF not even close to true top hand is the control hand

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:46 pm EST

I guess you have to draw blood to get a penalty if you're a pen

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:46 pm EST

It's McDonaghs "right" hand which was injured... That the top hand on the stick, so theoretically he should be able to shoot

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:46 pm EST

hip: Yeah, we saw more emotion in that scrum from him than the rest of the period combined! This kid could be SO good if he played with a little more intensity.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:45 pm EST

The one thing positive I'll say about Hayes, is that if we don't play him it will be tougher to trade him in the offseason.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:45 pm EST

York if that is the case they need to trade this selfish Capt .. He cost them game 7 now insists they can't win without him... Guess he doesn't know the final score from Saturday

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:44 pm EST

Y18, I don't get why he's even dressed. You called it when the injury happened. He probably has broken bones in that hand. He shouldn't be on the ice.

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:44 pm EST

PURPLE HAZE playing with some jam!! Love to see that!!

hipcheck


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:43 pm EST

Phuck off Letang. Someone slap him upside the head - he'll miss the rest of the POs.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:43 pm EST

Hayes is pissing me off with these soft turnover passes that's three this period in the neutral zone

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:43 pm EST

Hayes at half speed again.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:42 pm EST

TERRIBLE PP....

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:40 pm EST

McD can't handle the puck

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:40 pm EST

Nice effective PP....not good.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:40 pm EST

Can't wait until no more Dan Boyle....

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:39 pm EST

York: I hope so - Murray played very well for the Pens this year, replacing Fleury.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:39 pm EST

Wow crushed on a crosscheck from behind no call but you blow on kunitz and its a penalty

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:38 pm EST

I understand the use of technology. I get it but at what point do we allow the human element to be in play? I mean, if this continues then what is the point of having any refs, umpires, in any of the major leagues n

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:38 pm EST

BTW, what a freakin' save by Murray on Kreider's first shot. Gotta get in this guy's face for sure or he's gonna stone the Rangers.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:37 pm EST

its good though they are now in the goalies head they still got it by him and that's what counts.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:37 pm EST

Pierre is happy

stepunmytoe


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:37 pm EST

It was offsides but this shite is a momentum killer.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:36 pm EST

I hate this stupid timeout review shit now. Stupid league of course, screwed this up. Idiots....

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:36 pm EST

LMAO how have they not figured it out that was offsides.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:36 pm EST

It's close

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:35 pm EST

Welcome to The Garden you miserable crybaby's................

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:35 pm EST

Way offside.I noticed it during regular speed.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:34 pm EST

That Man is built for the playoffs he's hitting scoring he's a beast

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:34 pm EST

IT'S A POWER PLAY GOAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:34 pm EST

It's a power play goal!!!!!

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:34 pm EST

YEAAHHHHHHBABYYYYY ....ALL ZUC!!!!!!

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:33 pm EST

Another stupid rule - 2 minutes extra if you bleed. ALL sticks to the face should be a double minor, blood or not.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:32 pm EST

Slash and break a wrist 2 minutes

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:31 pm EST

Stevie, I agree even that pass was slow, it looked like it was mailed to the side boards it was moving so slow.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:30 pm EST

Looked likw Staal stopped him dead in his tracks clean... Someone edumicate me here... thanks

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:30 pm EST

Kunitz fell down easier than Nash....what a weak call.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:30 pm EST

wow checking a guy is a penalty now

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:30 pm EST

Fin dive

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:29 pm EST

Kunitz getting too close Lundqvist. Kreider throwing so nice heavy hits, Their goalie looks very sharp. Great pace, speed & tempo out there.

hipcheck


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:28 pm EST

Doesn't look like Capt parmenter can shoot the puck as he normally does ...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:28 pm EST

You beat me to it Y18. I was gonna say the same thing.

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:28 pm EST

York: When he took off I envisioned immediately the outcome. Funny but geeesh, so pathetic, you know? He should be driving to the net on those or take it into the corners and wait for offensive help. I get a shot on net could always score but man it's all about options and time and time again he seems to choose the easy way out. SIGH

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:28 pm EST

Defenseman chemistry a little shaky.

stepunmytoe


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:28 pm EST

Anyone know which hand McDonagh injured? I'm wondering if he can shoot with any authority.....

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:27 pm EST

RF I disagree they are getting shots some wide, some being blocked. They aren't getting rebounds.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:26 pm EST

Rangers getting minimal pressure offensively so far.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:23 pm EST

Good to see Hayes, Nash and E. Stall skating hard. This could lead to good things if they keep it up.

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:23 pm EST

Just watching on tv, but crowd seems really fired up!! Sounds good, great playoff atmosphere in the building.

hipcheck


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:22 pm EST

RF It's funny but I thought if he shot it any further out it would have been a dump in LOL

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:22 pm EST

One big difference between Murray and Jackoff is already evident - he's not letting out rebounds every shot.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:19 pm EST

OMG Nash....shooting from the perimeter! LOLOL...so predictable what he was going to do there (as he motored down the sideboards).

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:16 pm EST

Don't back down from Malkin....

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:12 pm EST

I swear Nash falls down as easily as 10 year old house league player sometimes. I don't get it.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:10 pm EST

Welcome to our house you miserable birds.........

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:08 pm EST

FWIW I get the desire to dress McD but man if he starts fumbling the puck and giving it away because he cannot grip his stick properly it could prove disastrous...

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:07 pm EST

Great (not) how much impact is going to take to reopen that fracture? assholes....

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:06 pm EST

As much as it pains me to type, I concur right now Skeji plays over McI if comes down to choosing between the 2. Skeji has earned it. So far.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:05 pm EST

Haven't see a lot of Matt Murray but can say this: He's a lot better than Jackoff. The Rangers have to take the puck to the net regularly tonight.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:58 pm EST

I agree the Pens have free license (refs) to whale away at McD's hand while we're far more courteous of Malkin's. At least we're spared Raffi, the Savior of last years Game 7. LGR! Keep the hitting up, regardless of who plays!

LeoS


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:56 pm EST

I like Wrath too, but you do not take Skjei out of the lineup.

Rhet0ric


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:56 pm EST

York: Whatever dude. Go Rangers go! Phuck Buttman.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:51 pm EST

York, -- Wondering whether they will be top pair, matched up against #87?

hipcheck


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:49 pm EST

Trying to remain positive, but sitting MCILRATH is a f#cking joke, very, very disappointing.

hipcheck


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:47 pm EST

HIP not really they played together on one of Skiejs call ups

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:46 pm EST

RF Forgive me but didn't he put a team back in Winni? Isn't there a good chance one goes back to Quebev next? I would hardly call that lip service. I again ask you how is it his fault that canadian teams failed to produce one winner? It's not like Edm hasn't be given ample chance with all their number one overall picks. What more do you want him to do, give an automatic spot to two teams from canada one in the west one in the east? Actually he can restructure the Div where he can put Tor, Mont, Ott and the Quebec team in one div that way the winner of said div no matter how bad they are will get a playoff spot for winning the div.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:46 pm EST

SKJEI paired with MCDONAGH in warmups, interesting.

hipcheck


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:43 pm EST

So McDonough is in. Just confirmed

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:42 pm EST

I would bet SJEJI.....If McD's healed, bring it on..

Hospo


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:40 pm EST

Not very smart...Not good….That just means the bad guys will be a ridin’ into town; a wompin’ and a woopin’ going after his hand all game long.

RF73


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:36 pm EST

so who plays in girardi's spot? Shea stadium ? or Big Mac or Diaz ?....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:32 pm EST

capt parmenter is back in....oh joy....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 5:24 pm EST

York: Buttman cares only about where he thinks he can grow profits and that's south of the border. Operative words 'where he thinks...'. He pays the fans north of the border nothing but lip service and takes Canada's loyalty totally for granted. He's an ass - if this keeps up the NHL is in BIG trouble. Wonder if he even realizes that, the weasel.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:57 pm EST

We played well with our last lineup. Stop SCREWING AROUND!!!

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:51 pm EST

Moof weknow should go with same lineup but he only does that in the regular season after a win .. This his time to shine ..... Shoes....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:45 pm EST

Lets Go Rangers!!!!!!!!! Our Victory Strombolies!!!!!!!!!......http://c32i.imgup.net/RangerlouM076c.jpg

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:37 pm EST

Srevie: any news on McDonagh? Is McIlrath penciled in? Thanks

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:30 pm EST

Rangers Report ✔ ‎@rangersreport Also, Dan Girardi skated this morning.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:30 pm EST

Joe McDonald ✔ ‎@ESPNJoeyMac Holtby exits the ice after a collision with teammate. He was favoring his left leg.

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:29 pm EST

moof you buying the Manishevitz ?

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:08 pm EST

You know we're only in it, for the gold.................

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:07 pm EST

Whoever they put in goal doesn't matter, we'll rock him! This years different, there's only one thing left to prove, and this team knows it... They'd have to be dead to think otherwise.........

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:05 pm EST

SLegs: Who ya benchin? Hayes?

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:05 pm EST

possible zackoff is out, murray is in tonight....pigpens all jerk-offs...

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:04 pm EST

moof that was Geezus Manishevitz! at the last supper?.....if capt parmenter is in, weknow should play 7 d......

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 3:59 pm EST

2 Hours you Fokkers

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 3:55 pm EST

mf - I'll have you know I represent those remarks..."remember, keep it shut"...lol

RF73


Tue Apr 19 2016 3:19 pm EST

RF Thing is Canada cries this is their sport, but they aren't supporting it and if teams get pulled again they will whine and cry with no one fault but their own. Buttman doesn't GM the canadian franchises this is one thing that is completely not his fault. Canada having no team in these playoffs is the fault of those said canadian teams.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 3:15 pm EST

Rangers don't have a chance in this one tonight, they'll be lucky if they don't get their doors blown off by Pittsburgh. ;-)

hipcheck


Tue Apr 19 2016 3:08 pm EST

RF73: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kP2kQIALTFM&feature=youtu.be

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 3:05 pm EST

Hospo Come to Mantoloking. All the Stombolies you need.

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 3:04 pm EST

Yes Drew Right off 35 South. Been there for 25 years this May!!

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 3:04 pm EST

Besides I didn't blame Buttman there, just said it looks good on him seeing as so much of the revenue flows from Canada, including their enormous TV contract. Shrinkage there would hurt the NHL badly.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 3:02 pm EST

mf: Quebec. Would sell out endlessly, unlike 1/3 to 1/2 of the franchises south of the border.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 3:01 pm EST

york: It just is. Buttman's a jerk.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 2:59 pm EST

3 hours, I'm ready to kill................

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 2:58 pm EST

Wouldn't shock me if one of the Pens slashes McD's hand. We better be prepared to retaliate if so. Screw whistle to whistle.

Fotiu22


Tue Apr 19 2016 2:57 pm EST

RF how is it BUttmans fault that canada is not watching hockey? It's not his fault that no canadian teams made the playoffs and it's certainly not his fault that it's obvious canada is not as hockey crazy as it claims because they don't watch unless canadian teams are there.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 2:54 pm EST

I like our chances tonight if we play the same kind of game we played Saturday. If McD is cleared and plays that will be a plus. If not I'd hope to see Mcl instead of Diaz so we play aggressive and have an edge to our game.

Scully5460


Tue Apr 19 2016 2:33 pm EST

Eh..mf...please get it right,,,it's ginzaloons....Ginzo 1. Derogatory term used against Italian Americans 2. A second generaton or later over-30 Italian American from the NY/NJ/Philadelphia area who retains an unusually strong sense of ethnic identity. Identifiable by the routine use of the few Italian words or phrases they know in ordinary conversation with the assumption everyone will know what they mean.Also tend to assume their customs and holiday traditions are universal. They self-identify as Catholic but attend Mass at most twice a year, and consider watching the Pope on television the equivalent of going to Mass. They have conservative social values, particularly concerning gay rights and gender roles. 3. An older guido or guidette Used in a sentence: When our relationship started getting serious, the ginzo in him started really coming out

RF73


Tue Apr 19 2016 2:25 pm EST

mf - the Islanders to relocate

DREW


Tue Apr 19 2016 2:13 pm EST

RF: whats your choice for the next NHL Canadian franchise?

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:59 pm EST

Hospo: Not surprised at all to hear that. Looks good on Buttman!!! Hope he's squirming in his weaselly shorts.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:56 pm EST

Friggin Gindalunes: https://www.google.com/search?q=stromboli&espv=2&rlz=1C1CHMO_enUS574US583&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj38cLEsJvMAhUD9x4KHdijCMgQiR4IrgE&biw=1024&bih=705

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:55 pm EST

Wow---Playoff ratings down 61% in Canada, just one in 69 Canadians watching, says @THNKenCampbell. http://bit.ly/1NzIeKD

Hospo


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:42 pm EST

Rangerlou - The wife broke down and made one more Stromboli..so, we'll see how it goes..! it's the last one though..gonna have to havee only a small piece and keep the rest for a long run..

Hospo


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:40 pm EST

MF - MCD only plays if he's fully cleared..So, if he plays, he's an improvement we need,,,..As for not being able to be optimistic, not really...I've been pretty damn optimistic the past few years...Had them winning the East from the start last year, just didn't think they had the team to win it all..this yea I had them being 4th-6th but possibly having a long PO run with the right deadline move...which I thought they made...I was optimistic all year untill after the deadline where I think the coach let the team down big time and the effort sucked....Now, another game like Saturday's and I might be feeling optimistic again,!

Hospo


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:30 pm EST

rangerlou - Mantoloking?!?!?! Where - my in laws have a house on Sloop Lane (Ketch off of Bay - Mantoloking Shores). I watched the Marty St. Louis OT goal in 2014 in that house - still greatest recent memory

DREW


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:28 pm EST

MR....I agree..we played a good game, with two rookies on D , and missing our number 1 Dman. I thought we played with confidence...and we definitely held it together in the end. Tonight I can feel the Bern!! LOL.....LGR!

WIOSA


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:27 pm EST

What a beautiful beach day in Mantoloking. Tonight Rangers Playoff Hockey complete with our Victory Strombolies!!!!!!!!! Lets Go Rangers!!!!!!!!!

rangerlou


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:22 pm EST

Gentlemen (& NN & Wiosa) Let me state "an obvious." What's obvious IS that the years of being a Ranger Fan has prohibited many of us from getting our hopes up or showing optimism.. I won't name any names Hospo/Vic hmm hmm...... Geezus Manishevitz! We won Saturdays game 4-2, their second goal came on a 4 on 3 PP.. We did not score an Empty Netter, had we, we matched the score of game 1, which IMO was way closer than game 2.... So even with giving up that 4 on 3 PP goal, we held them to 2 goals or fewer.... If thats not great team D, then I don't know......

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:06 pm EST

Y18: As I stated yesterday, to Not call up Diaz would be negligence IMO.. Let him get some practice time in with the big squad.. He is who we have (better than your boy Kost-a-goal) .... AFAIC: Staal/Yankle/Skjei on the left --- Klein/Boyle/McIlrath on the right.... Hayes on the wing, let E.Staal play center for G-ds sake...... And drop the effin puck! :-)

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 1:03 pm EST

Hospo: along with McDonagh come an injured paw..... That = subtraction IMO... I'd rather have the 6 Dmen that dressed in game too & eliminate the risk of re-injury & or a diminished team performance... We are not in a position where we need a D'man to step up and play through an injury, we have the back-ups... How many times has someone here posted about our Defensive depth? Well, now's the time to use it........ RF: Stop wasting good beer on AV, have you lost your mind? :-) ....... VIC: Allow yourself to feel good and optimistic about the Rangers... Its the past which holds you back. :-) .... AND in reply to your 7:45am post, this is a new season (playoffs) I'll argue that the Rangers have been consistent the last two games (especially the 1st period of game one) but we made two critical mistakes which they were able to capitalize on... Second game, not so..... LGR .... BTW, seeing Ranger Jerseys on the Streets of Manhattan boyz-n-gurlz... :-)

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 12:56 pm EST

MF I guess you forgot how bad Diaz played in the preseason, he was the main reason why goals were scored when he was on the ice and that is why he was sent down. You ask do the Rangers need Wrath to win? The question should be can Diaz be the reason they end up losing? Answer Yes, which answers your question do they need Wrath to win, yes.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 12:34 pm EST

MF - Every little bit helps..And I think that would apply to Mcilrath over Diaz or Girardi,.....but not Mcilrath over McD or Skeji

Hospo


Tue Apr 19 2016 12:19 pm EST

Do we really need McIlrath in the line-up to win? I think not.

mf


Tue Apr 19 2016 11:29 am EST

I'd love to see Mcilrath back in the line-up but I honestly think that ship has sailed after his few yips on Saturday...I guess it's only fans, announcers and team-mates that think the team plays "bigger" with him in the lineup...Surely not AV..Let's hope to god MCD is ready becasue I don't want to see a washed up prancer like Diaz for one nano-second..

Hospo


Tue Apr 19 2016 11:21 am EST

Honestly, I think people are exaggerating how well the Ranges played on Saturday...I loved the style and it's what they have to do...but let's not forget it was 3 goals in 4 minutes and a HUGE save by The King on another Ranger mistake that really sealed the game....I espect a much mor difficult game from the Penguins tonight....Just hope the angers keep the same attitude and strategy.....but I kinda doubt that already..given the yammerings of the douche behind the bench and the idiotic consideration of Diaz......C'mon Rangers, win in spite of AV!

Hospo


Tue Apr 19 2016 11:04 am EST

AV said earlier this AM that if McD can't go, he hasn't decided who does Diaz vs McI. Unless this is just mind games with the Pens and AV's already whispered to McI he's in if McD is out, then the coach is a big prickjob IMO and there's intent behind his words/actions: Setting McI up to fail so he can point to Gorton and say 'see, told you he's not an NHL d-man'.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 10:33 am EST

Supposedly McDONAGH will be meeting with the doctors today. The word is that if they give him the go-ahead he will be in the lineup for tonight.

Vic


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:51 am EST

The key to tonight's game no different than always....Hank....If he is on we have a good chance of winning......

PJ


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:36 am EST

Totally see that happening ges999

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:35 am EST

Mario...you know who I mean

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:35 am EST

The boarding on Orlov was the same play as the hit on Stepan. Belledouch gets a major and game misconduct, the Penguin player got no call, no after the fact hearing, nothing. Just disgusting, NHL. I am surprised Buttman has any time and energy left to move forward with more league expansion with Marion so far up his corn hole!

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:31 am EST

Good morning. I think a big factor tonight will be how closely the refs call the game. Pitt got away with a lot last game. If they call it tight and the Rangers come out banging we could be on the PK early and affect the game plan.

ges999


Tue Apr 19 2016 9:25 am EST

Orpik has hunted opponents for years. Karma is a bitch. The other stuff is typical Flyer goonery. Been watching that happen for 40 years.

Bob


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:43 am EST

I did like the hit on Oprick tho - that a-hole has been running players in very much the same way for years. It always looks great on someone like that when the tables get turned.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:40 am EST

Bob: Like I posted last night, how fitting after that Ed Snider tribute - he's the mastermind behind the Flyer attitude that started in the 70s with his thug of a team. They bullied their way to a cup back then but fittingly (and deservedly) have not won since.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:32 am EST

Bob I am surprised the classless Flyers didn't pass out D cell batteries to their fans!

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:31 am EST

So why would AV think of a linup change after the teams best performance in weeks, or months? If he does he needs to be booed at the Garden big time. That would be a moronic move and playing Diaz over McI would have to be bad in the locker room. But then again how would AV know? It seems he never goes in there.

NYStranger


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:27 am EST

How about that Flyers display last night. Who thought it was a good idea to give Flyer fan something that could be used as projectiles?

Bob


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:09 am EST

Why would AV toy with McI's head and confidence that way, anyways? I find his treatment of McI despicable.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 8:04 am EST

A few other thoughts. If the Rangers come out and physically dominate the Pens again I suspect that the Pens will bring SESTITO back up and insert him into the lineup. I'm not worried about that in terms of him making them a better team. I'm just more concerned that he will be brought in to "PRUST" someone like MZA or STEPAN. As for McILRATH vs DIAZ, I find it unthinkable that DIAZ would be inserted into this lineup over McILRATH. The Rangers need to be more physical, not less. McILRATH's first pass is better then DIAZ's. And DIAZ hasn't played a second of NHL hockey this year. Hell, he hasn't even been noteworthy playing AHL hockey. I can't believe that the rest of that locker room would be happy to see DIAZ inserted over McILRATH. I know that YANDLE sure wouldn't. And I don't know if AV has lost that room or not but that would be step in that direction IMHO.

Vic


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:55 am EST

STEVIE: I totally agree, and it is why I've always loved having guys like AVERY, CARCILLO, BARNABY, etc. on the team, I'm just saying that it isn't necessary, in this series, for the Rangers to do that to be physically effective and to frustrate the Pens. CROSBY, MALKIN and LETANG don't like to be hit during the play. Just hitting them at every opportunity will frustrate the hell out of them. Now, if they win this series and move on to play the Caps I think the Rangers will need to change that up. They will need to go after AO, KUSNETSOV and HOLTBY after the whistle and try to get them off their game.

Vic


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:52 am EST

the pigpens played 7 d, maybe veenyo should try it.....but right now he should stay the course...if Diaz is in, that's his decision. I assume ulfaa will give his input.....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:48 am EST

Vic in the real hockey world some of what happens after the whistle affects the game too, especially in the playoffs, including trash talk. the goal is to knock them off their game and plan....

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:47 am EST

YORK: Before the STAAL deal was made I was holding out hope that the Rangers could pick DUBI back up. I would gladly have traded NASH back to COLUMBUS straight up for DUBI.

Vic


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:45 am EST

RF4L: Yeah, that is my concern as well, and why I've really tried to reign in any excitement over the win in Game 2. I'm trying to keep an even keel and take these games one at a time. We've seen far too much inconsistency from this team from period to period (let alone game to game) over the last year to take anything we've seen so far as measuring stick for the team or the series. I hope the Rangers can come out with the same snarl and intensity as they showed for most of game 2. I hope they come out and physically maul the Pens. I hope they have seen the results so far and realize that the recipe for success for this team is to play that way.....to both grind teams down AND use their speed and transition to punish teams on the rush. This isn't the Rangers of a few years ago that were really good at sustaining forecheck pressure. I don't think that is their strength anymore, although they can still do it from time to time. But, it all comes down to which Ranger team shows up tonight. Do they come back with the same fire and intensity or do they sit back again because their backs aren't to the wall.

Vic


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:41 am EST

BTW, AV refusing to say whether or not Diaz will be in but apparently he practiced on the 2nd PP unit yesterday. Nice way to bump up McI's confidence. Geeesh.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:39 am EST

How is it Nash apologists always claim he's injured this time of year the guy could sit home all season play this time of year and he will ha e been injured by the TV remote. The guy has no heart he disappears this time of year every year yeah yeah boy can he back check funny how people think dubjnsky is over oaid at 6 mil while Nash making about 8 mil doi g the same isn't lol.

York18


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:37 am EST

There is nothing wrong with playing whistle to whistle as long as the Rangers take every opportunity to hit, hit hard, be abrasive as possible and "leave a mark" at every opportunity. That can be as abrasive and frustrating as anything done after the whistle. Let the Pens be the ones who are frustrated and looking to scrum after the whistle. The blueprint for the rest of this series (Hell, the rest of the playoffs) should be KREIDER's hit on LETANG. I bet LETANG is still sore from that hit. We know they don't have much to work with in terms of solid D depth. The Rangers need to go out and pound (without mercy) the few that they rely heavily on (LETANG, DALEY, POULIOTT, etc.).

Vic


Tue Apr 19 2016 7:35 am EST

So what Ranger team shows up tonight? Valid question IMO, given their up and down season from a style and effort perspective. If Diaz dresses over McI I hope someone beans AV in the head with a full beer.

RF4L


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:58 am EST

Ola that's the double edge sword that veenyo preaches with whistle to whistle and don't take penalties. They need to play the same way no matter what the refs call. Otherwise they lose. They have to get under the pigpens skin and knock them off their game and do their jobs on the pk and pp . The nyr have to cheat like the rest and get the refs fooled. Safe is death , smart isn't .

stevielegs


Tue Apr 19 2016 6:54 am EST

Finally, game night has arrived....Rangers did a good job clogging up the neutral zone in the last game. They def made sure to finish their checks and really punished the penguins. I hope to see the same tonight, and would love to see them score first and play with a lead for a change. The Rangers have an opportunity there to take control of this series and I hope they rise up and take it. LGRs!!!

Greschner4


Tue Apr 19 2016 4:22 am EST

We definitely have the right approach trying to pressure Pittsburg's Ds. The PK worries me a bit though. The longer these series drag on, it just is so important to stay in the games and sometimes the deciding factor basically is about who scores first. It is risky to end up in a situation where Pittsburg's PP is very effective and we have to be able to get back in games on a regular basis that Pittsburg have taken the lead in thanks to their power play.

Ola


Mon Apr 18 2016 10:17 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/18/rangers-achilles-heel-is-gone-welcome-black-and-blueshirts/

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 10:09 pm EST

Pittsburg may be switching up the lines. Coach Sully clearly on the hot seat. Game time can't come soon enough.... http://triblive.com/sports/penguins/10321430-74/fehr-game-malkin

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 10:06 pm EST

from the same rag: http://triblive.com/sports/penguins/10327700-74/game-malkin-fleury

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 9:57 pm EST

From a Pittsburg rag.... Penguins ponder blue-line options to boost transition game ....... (The Penguins are toast!) ...... http://triblive.com/sports/penguins/10321431-74/penguins-game-rangers

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 9:35 pm EST

LOLOL....looks so good on the Flyers getting their asses kicked at home after the Ed Snider tribute. LOLOLOL...

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 9:15 pm EST

Checking The Wall 40 times a day while I work, Waiting impatiently for game-time tomorrow.. Every game from here on out is the most important game of the season.. Past playoffs we've been the masters of the 7 game series, winners of games by 1 goal most of the tme.. Last game we were ferocious, (monk where are you?) dominant, relentless and we won by a good margin in and out of the stats... The winner of this series is most likely facing the Capitols.. It would be great if we take the next 3 before we face OV & co.... We can beat them too. Somehow, this post-season has an aire of mystique to it, almost like we're the "sleeper team." .... "IF" we play solid 60 minute games, I don't see why we can't win it all... ""Let's Go Rangers!""

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 8:53 pm EST

NV94......the Craps are getting marinated for the Rangers series! Hopefully someone puts Ovenchicken out to pasture....that fuckin cheap shotin' douche

TradeStar28


Mon Apr 18 2016 8:52 pm EST

Caps score 5 PP goals in a ugly performance by Philthy.

NYStranger


Mon Apr 18 2016 8:38 pm EST

Stay classy Philly!

NV94


Mon Apr 18 2016 8:18 pm EST

I don't root for injuries (too often) .....but seeing Ian white crush Brooks Orpik into lala land is fine with me........Orpik has gone after a few Rangers over the years to injure them......Karma is a bitch

TradeStar28


Mon Apr 18 2016 8:00 pm EST

SCNEID: for sure Skjei looks like he could be a solid defenseman in the seasons to come. The kid has a great skill set. What surprised me a little for some reason is how physical he is. He's a big body and he isn't afraid to use it. TBD as his career answers. But he is an optimistic player.

E


Mon Apr 18 2016 6:28 pm EST

OMG, OV just missed crunching Simmonds...lol...now that would have been fabulous!

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 6:12 pm EST

Watching this lovefest for Ed Snider. I get Flyer faithful being grateful for him bringing the NHL to Philly but listening to pundits gush over him and how his attitude is/was the Flyer attitude and then ponder the darkest days of the NHL when the Flyers pummelled and pounded their way to a cup, well it makes me wanna puke. Thank goodness the Flyers have never won since then and guess what? That's in large part because they had a meddling owner. No one, of course, ever says anything about that.

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 5:36 pm EST

Positive Post: H@LY CRAP has SJeij surpassed my expectations.. is it me or has he grown 3 inches since Traverse City? He is a stud w size, skating and hasn't looked nervous at all with the puck... he is aggressively going behind the goal line to retrieve and distribute the puck... super impressive and totally ironic that some of the NYRs best players against PITT are their youngest...

schneidw


Mon Apr 18 2016 5:33 pm EST

NASH: I have been critical of his production, but the reality is he has played really well the 1st 2 games... and is going to the net... I think he is still hurt because his skating looks slower than ever... I have no issue with Nash... NYRs played a GREAT game 2, totally shut down the neutral zone... playing 2 rookies on defense.... I have been posting for 2 weeks how I don't understand all the negativity on the WALL lately... so many positives after game 2, why not discuss those instead bitching about AV, Nash, Hayes????????????

schneidw


Mon Apr 18 2016 5:30 pm EST

Leo, then it would be perfect for as we know all NHL officials are visually impaired!

NYStranger


Mon Apr 18 2016 5:22 pm EST

not gomer pyle...surprise surprise surprise ....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 18 2016 5:22 pm EST

rf73 you can do more than 2.....pile on.....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 18 2016 5:21 pm EST

OK Stevie...you win...two losers...Veengottago & Dick Rash...happy now?

RF73


Mon Apr 18 2016 5:15 pm EST

rf73 you are starting to sound like weknow veenyo..... but he has a longer list of players to blame......I'll go with the refs blew that series....along with dick rash and many others .....including weknow who....he got his pants pulled down and out-coached by the muppet and sean penn look alike....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 18 2016 4:38 pm EST

NYStranger - That probably would diminish the amount of offside calls. And people who are good at those jumbled pics that become a 3D image if you unfocus your eyes (stereograms?) would be natural fits for a career as a linesman :)

LeoS


Mon Apr 18 2016 3:24 pm EST

Reading the McDonagh story…saw this link and just had to click on it…http://www.thesportster.com/hockey/top-15-worst-nhl-stanley-cup-finals-performances-by-a-star/14/ Guess who is #2 on the list? Our own Dick Rash!!!! ….Rick Nash’s 2014 Finals were awful, but, in all honesty, his entire 2014 Playoffs was nothing to write home about. Nash was terribly in the first two rounds, with no goals, but emerged in the Conference Finals with three goals in six games. Once in the Finals though, Nash really, really stunk. He was held pointless in the five game series against the Kings and unable to solve Jonathan Quick. It’s safe to say, in the biggest spotlight, Nash laid a huge egg.

RF73


Mon Apr 18 2016 3:07 pm EST

Veen Yo Yo, please Do Not Dress McDonagh. We don't need him to beat these birds!

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 2:54 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/18/ryan-mcdonagh-makes-surprise-comeback-for-rangers/

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 2:50 pm EST

Girardi was knocked out of a game about a week before the season ended when his head was banged into the boards.. On top of that, the guy probably has some significant bone bruise & welts.... Let him heal up, we have the depth on defense, why AV doesn't play Mcilrath in these games, even if its 10-12 minutes is a mystery...

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 2:44 pm EST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrwDUGyqVRE

RF73


Mon Apr 18 2016 2:33 pm EST

Has it been determined if Girardi hurt himself in game 1 or was he hurt before the game and coach Boo Boo decided to play him anyway thus handing the Pens the game ?

stepunmytoe


Mon Apr 18 2016 2:19 pm EST

inconclusive too

stevielegs


Mon Apr 18 2016 2:18 pm EST

Does Skeji being ambidextrous defensively make in terms of numbers at least McD more expendable?

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 2:12 pm EST

guess it's not like football and crossing the plane of the goal line.....or the blue line....think it is the back foot can't be in the air or over the blue line....the nhl is inclusive....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 18 2016 2:09 pm EST

moof guess you missed isthmus....its must be my lucky day....ain't it.....isn't is not...

stevielegs


Mon Apr 18 2016 2:08 pm EST

I thought those issues had more to do with the back foot coming off the ice?...They kept replaying and talking about where/when/if the skate was not touching the ice before the puck completely crossed the blue line?

RF73


Mon Apr 18 2016 1:52 pm EST

Leo I think they were trying to say it would be on side as soon as the puck touches the blue line not fully crossing. Would help on those plays like the Brassard play. Less need to go the replay if the player has that extra foot leway. Might work.

NYStranger


Mon Apr 18 2016 1:47 pm EST

it all depends on what your definition of, "is," is... :-) doesn't it now? :-)

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 1:46 pm EST

Hospo, for as long as it takes. The Clintons have been using this tactic for a long time... Can't beat em, join em.........

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 1:29 pm EST

who knows really what weknow veenyo is saying or not saying now ? ...if he's smart, he's bs the media and the refs....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 18 2016 1:23 pm EST

MF - Could be , but for far too long, "whistle to whistle" has meant exactly that or, in may instance, not even that..That's where they get into trouble...YOu can't beat this Pens team by outsating and dipsy doodling..

Hospo


Mon Apr 18 2016 1:16 pm EST

Hospo, amen brutha! Also, AV is quite the politician, and it's meant as a compliment here... He can say we're playing whistle to whistle and give the crew the green light to do what is necessary after the whistle during the playoffs. He has some credibility because his whistle to whistle mantra has been well documented... So, we can do whatever it takes, and he can simply reply, "we play whistle to whistle, and the listeners can " Make that mean, whatever they may.

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 1:10 pm EST

I just hope the players don't buy in totally to AV's "whistle-to-whistle" bull shtt and take the body like they did on Saturday.....Also, since this is the Rangers after all, they betternot take their foot off the physicality pedal and think they can just outskate the Pens-----that would be a huge mistake..But letting uphas been the Rangers MO this year and AV seems to think that speed is what will bring the Rangers to victory

Hospo


Mon Apr 18 2016 1:09 pm EST

PJ: There is no room for bullshit.. It's time to bring the lunch-pail to work, beat the ph_ck out of Pitt, and move on to the next victims.... My rosey Ranger glasses has me flirting with the idea that the Rangers can win the next 3 and be done with the leagues darlings in 5.... That's the best way to limit our minutes unlike AV's total failure to do so with our RHS defenders this season.... My experience as a Ranger fan says otherwise........

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:47 pm EST

mf - well, E's patented Cheerios Umbrella has taken away some other options... ;)

LeoS


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:47 pm EST

Far more sending a message type of hitting in game two....Rangers seemed genuinely pissed off....Not in the mood for any bullshit....

PJ


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:45 pm EST

Was anybody following the Eddie O nonsense about the blue line and offside the other day? He was pointing out that the defining line for offside shifts (near vs far for offside keeping the puck in vs entering the zone - the O zone grows once you gain it) but then he confused himself and tried to state that these miniscule borderline (video review) calls wouldn't happen if the entry point was the near edge of the blue line...what?? Then last night's Isles-Panthers announcer referenced that as well. Am I missing something here? There's always going to be a defining on/off boundary, (which will be the focus of any video review), right? It doesn't matter specifically *where* it is...

LeoS


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:44 pm EST

Quite a bit went well in game two...The biggest thing was Hank's play....Night and day versus the last couple of weeks....More than anything else this will need to continue for us to win....Can't wait for tomorrow night....Great time of year....

PJ


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:43 pm EST

As for the hitting, yes the Rangers had alot of hits on Wednesday also but it couldn't be just me that noticed the ferocity and the intent of the hits ws much higher on Saturday..and the timing was much different--they were right on top of the pens for most of the game--unlike on Wednesday..JMWO

Hospo


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:40 pm EST

MF - I mentioned that switching sides thing with SKEJI during the game on Satutrday...It was almost like he was being double shifted...He defientely has AV's confidence.and will likel ystay in the lineup no matter what,

Hospo


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:35 pm EST

TDCHI - Again, level headed about Diaz..I just don't like the guy or his game...As far as Mci/SKEJI, I don't think it matters who's healthy first, MCD or Girardi, Mcilrath will sit and SKEJI will stay in the lineup, not without merit,..

Hospo


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:33 pm EST

LeoS, you raining on my parade? ;-)

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:30 pm EST

mf - we were credited with 50 hits the game before, with McI in street clothes...

LeoS


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:17 pm EST

C'mon TD, we need additional confirmation of the affect McIlrath has on the line-up ? We out-hit the Penguinista's 57-25 !!!! Our beat writers are highlighting this, and so are Pittsburg's... GMAFB! (profanity :-)) ... Game 2's effort the rest of the way gets us to the SCF's, and there's still room to milk more out of our roster.... jmo snatcherally

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:13 pm EST

looks like capt parmenter might be ready...in regular jersey, so he must be cleared to play.....Here were the lines and defense pairs: Chris Kreider-Derek Stepan-Mats Zuccarello J.T. Miller-Derick Brassard-Rick Nash Eric Staal-Kevin Hayes-Jesper Fast Tanner Glass-Dominic Moore-Viktor Stalberg Extra forward: Oscar Lindberg Not on ice: Marek Hrivik Marc Staal-Kevin Klein Keith Yandle-Dylan McIlrath Brady Skjei-Dan Boyle Extra d-pair: Ryan McDonagh-Raphael Diaz Not on ice: Dan Girardi

stevielegs


Mon Apr 18 2016 12:07 pm EST

Here’s a bigger case for disappoint right now: Human highlight reel machine Drake CAGGIULA is having coffee with Ron Hextal and the Flyers. Word is he might want to rejoin former Sioux head coach Hakstol. Other rumors are that he’s looking at Chicago or Vancouver, which hold rights on his former linemates. Also Edmonton is supposedly in the mix…Never, never, never, never understand why the Rangers, of all teams, doesn’t have their name at the top of the list for guys like this…Caggiula is no guarantee, but the kid has skills…real good skills. Dishing him one of 50 contracts shouldn’t be an issue. This kid is kind of a no-brainer. Don’t think any team is going to give him a walk-on contract…he’s going to start in the AHL…so then work the phones. Get your name out there…say you’re interested. And if they’re not interested, as I suspect, then someone in the Ranger organization needs to go back over the file footage. This isn’t a guy you want landing somewhere in the conference.

tdchi


Mon Apr 18 2016 11:59 am EST

I understand the collective groan at seeing DIAZ’S name on recall, but realize the Pack’s season is over and it’s a lot easier to get the guy in New York practicing with the team than it is to wait for him to be needed for one reason or another. I think the more critical message we should read into is the move of SKLEI to the off-side…That to me suggests he’s playing good enough that AV might want to keep him in the lineup even if/when McDONAGH comes back...If GIRARDI is still out, my gut tells me AV skates McILRATH again…AV is fairly pragmatic when it comes to keeping a winning lineup. Doesn’t change it unless he has to. But clearly, Mack still hasn’t won over the coach in any regard. I still kind of think the business about AV not liking him as a player is a little blown out of proportion. I do think he’s getting the JT MILLER treatment, which is to say he’s not going to get a lot of minutes until he has one of those ‘can’t take him out of the lineup now’ games…I can say, though, that if Mack comes out and the Rangers go back to playing passive, we then have very good evidence of the positive effect he has on this club.

tdchi


Mon Apr 18 2016 11:44 am EST

Stevie: IMO the LB article you graciously posted deserves a cut & paste:.... Regarding the Rangers, tied at 1-all against the Penguins with Game 3 set for the Garden on Tuesday: 1. Brady Skjei’s ability to play his off, right side and to play it well, noted by Alain Vigneault during Sunday’s conference call with the press, was the most noteworthy development of the third period of the Blueshirts’ impressive 4-2 Game 2 victory in Pittsburgh — for the both the short-term and long-term. The 22-year-old rookie pro, who has displayed the poise and respectfully cocky edge to match his skating ability, looks like he belongs on the stage. Skjei, who played his natural left side paired primarily with Dan Boyle through his seven-game cameo during the regular season and through most of the first games of the series, played several quite capable shifts on the right side over the final 20 minutes as the Blueshirts sought to protect their lead. The move was made for two reasons. First, Vigneault wanted to minimize Dylan McIlrath’s exposure. McIlrath, who steadied nicely after a couple of jittery opening shifts, got only 2:12 of his total 9:07 in the final period. Second, Kevin Klein spent seven minutes in the box (plus 42 seconds waiting for a whistle to grant him release) after coming to the aid of Marc Staal after his partner had been viciously slashed by Chris Kunitz at 11:43. Skjei got approximately 4:45 on the right of his 6:54 in the third and 19:02 overall, teamed primarily with Staal but also took a turn with Keith Yandle. Earlier in the period he played the right side while righty Klein claimed the left. And he did just fine. For the immediate future, the Minnesota Golden Gopher’s ability to adapt provides Vigneault with another option if left-sider Ryan McDonagh is able to return and the coach wants/needs to change up on the right. Longer-term, if Skjei could make the switch to the right side, that would open a spot on the left and theoretically enable the club to keep Yandle, a pending free agent, off the market and on Broadway. That’s why Skjei’s successful move to the right side — even if it consisted of a very small sample size — was so significant. 2. If it isn’t J.T. Miller who has come the furthest since the beginning of the season, then it is certainly Viktor Stalberg, who has emerged as an extremely astute free-agent signing by general manager Jeff Gorton.........Stalberg, the 30-year-old on a one-year, $1.1 million deal, is consistently rubbing people out and consistently rubbing the Penguins the wrong way. His sandpaper game — aided and abetted by speed and power — has irritated Pittsburgh. He looks like the player he was when he contributed meaningfully to the Blackhawks’ 2013 Cup champions before it went wrong in Nashville. 3. Isn’t it time to at least consider getting Eric Staal off the wing and into the middle, where he has played almost all of his career and at which he has the best chance to succeed? The 31-year-old pre-deadline acquisition from Carolina, who’s been banged up pretty much since he was plowed into the wall by Matt Martin late in the first period of the March 6 Garden match against the Islanders, was shaken up again late in Saturday’s third period on a hit from Kris Letang. It may be true Kevin Hayes is more comfortable at center than right wing, but at this juncture, it would seem the priority would be to maximize Staal’s contributions. Of course, Vigneault could at some point replace Hayes in the lineup with Oscar Lindberg, but we wouldn’t want to stray too far in an alternate reality. 4. Each of Mike Sullivan’s three immediate predecessors behind the Pittsburgh bench — Michel Therrien, followed by Dan Bylsma, followed by Mike Johnston — has intermittently played Evgeni Malkin and Sidney Crosby on the same line, so the temptation must be overwhelming. Sullivan united the pair for 6:48 upon Malkin’s return on Saturday, some of that because Kunitz was in the box. As challenging a matchup as that combination (plus the formidable Patric Hornqvist) presents, it would seem a more complex problem if the duo were split and Vigneault were forced to match against them on separate lines. 5. Game 2 referees Marc Joannette and Steve Kozari were hazardous to the Rangers’ health.

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 11:43 am EST

Hospo: Where's Girardi? Not there at all? Also, broken hand for McD although I don't know if the Rangers announced anything specific.

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 11:38 am EST

MCD skating with Diaz at practice as extras...has it ever been disclosed what MCD's "upper body" injury is? Broken bone in hand? wrist?

Hospo


Mon Apr 18 2016 11:37 am EST

Top of the face off circle...That's the "sweet spot for his shot"

RF73


Mon Apr 18 2016 11:19 am EST

SHould have added 'right into the goalie's pads'...

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 11:18 am EST

RF: LOL...you missed one other option: Shoot the puck from 30 feet out! That's one of Nash's favourite moves now.

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 10:53 am EST

AV's "whistle-to-whistle" bullshit versus how good the Rangers looked finally being the agressor on Saturday...Just shows how they will have to win IN SPITE of AV and his cluelessness...Hopefully, one of the players won't have to do a Gillooly to Diaz's ankle to keep him from, playing......

Hospo


Mon Apr 18 2016 10:02 am EST

Dick Rash on the breakaway thinking to himself...."Do I just go for it, do I just dump it in and peel off or do I just go off for a change?" He did a little of all three and we saw the result of it.

RF73


Mon Apr 18 2016 9:46 am EST

Nash looked like Tanner Glass on his breakaway at the start of second period....

PJ


Mon Apr 18 2016 9:42 am EST

It would be nice if Dick Rash could score on Jackoff, wouldn't it? That has an interesting ring to it, too!

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 9:41 am EST

RF: Dick Rash was given an extra assist on the Rangers first goal Saturday, so statistically he contributed! LOL

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 9:31 am EST

Diaz = mutiny by the fans...

mf


Mon Apr 18 2016 9:17 am EST

Agree... If Diaz starts I will be sick.....

PJ


Mon Apr 18 2016 8:58 am EST

So, we played a team game, probably achieved a record number of hits for a playoff game (read that somewhere), had most everybody contributing (exception being Dick Rash) and was mostly a recipe for success…So, what will he do?…let’s mix it up…it wouldn’t surprise me if he changed the forward lines for tomorrow as well (unless there is an injury that forces it)…hope I am wrong.

RF73


Mon Apr 18 2016 8:38 am EST

BTW, Diaz officially recalled. If he starts over McI it may be the straw that breaks the camel's back for me as a Ranger fan.

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 8:21 am EST

RF: Yeah. AV bugs me big time sometimes. He is itching to get McI back in the pressbox. What a nob....

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 8:06 am EST

RF4L - Exactly to Greschner's point...“They played a little differently in being a little more aggressive and having more scrums at the end of each whistle to slow the Penguins down. They have to play a little differently. "...Because of or in spite of?..Inquiring minds want to know.

RF73


Mon Apr 18 2016 8:01 am EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/17/why-skjeis-off-side-revelation-is-huge-for-rangers-now-and-later/

stevielegs


Mon Apr 18 2016 7:59 am EST

Am I thinking too much here? The coach claims the team plays 'whistle to whistle' which I assume means nothing after the whistle (re no scrums) which I know is the pacifist style he for whatever reason adores. But I saw lots of stuff initiated by the Rangers when the play stopped on Saturday's game and it's no coincidence the Rangers were far more effective than game 1. WTF? Did his players go against his mandate in that regard on Saturday? This dude is not amongst my favourites right now, that's for sure.

RF4L


Mon Apr 18 2016 7:19 am EST

weknow must be hearing whistles ....maybe the whistle before they drop the puck again?.....can he whistle while he works? ....

stevielegs


Mon Apr 18 2016 6:46 am EST

AV says we play whistle to whistle....I think would Ron Greschner would disagree..."Greschner said he was most impressed by how aggressive the Rangers were, at both ends of the ice. They outhit the Penguins 57-25 and made third-string goaltender Jeff Zatkoff’s life difficult, peppering him with shots and not merely from the perimeter, as was the case in the opener. “They made the goaltender move a little bit, they moved the puck from east to west, and once you do that, you get one goal, the goalie is going to start thinking, I have to move quicker, move out a little more, and it becomes more of a pingpong game,” said the longtime Rangers defenseman, who played with the Blueshirts from 1974-90. “They played a little differently in being a little more aggressive and having more scrums at the end of each whistle to slow the Penguins down. They have to play a little differently. The Penguins aren’t a real aggressive team, not a real powerhouse hitting team like, say, Washington or Philly. They have to get in their face a little more and definitely slow the speed down because Pittsburgh has a fast team.”

RF73


Mon Apr 18 2016 5:50 am EST

“I mean, you’ve got two of the best players in the world. They’re tough when they’re not playing on the same line, when they’re playing on the same line you can just imagine the challenge that that makes for our players.” The Rangers were exceptionally physical with the Penguins in Game 2, and out-hit Pittsburgh in Game 1 as well. McIlrath certainly plays into that type of game, and thus into the decision to play him. “Those are decisions we’re going to make on a game-to-game basis,” Vigneault said. “We’re a team that plays whistle to whistle. We’re a team that likes to play fast. We’re a team that likes to, as much as we can, play with the puck. “Pittsburgh is doing a lot of the same things, so what we’re trying to do is slow them down the best way we can. That’s with good body position, good stick position, and when you get an opportunity to finish a hit, you finish your hit. But we’ve got to make sure we stick to what makes us good and that’s what we’re trying to do, and I know that’s what Pittsburgh’s trying to do.” Keeping tabs on Crosby and Malkin, and by extension, doing enough to win this series, Vigneault added, “It’s going to take our best hockey of the year.” - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/18/vigneault-remains-loyal-to-girardi-and-that-loyalty-will-be-tested/#sthash.BJLtHsML.dpuf

stevielegs


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:37 pm EST

The Penguins goaltending situation is no clearer after the two games in Pittsburgh........ http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2016/04/17/Zatkoff-ready-to-step-in-again/stories/201604170092

mf


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:31 pm EST

Macllrath in Girardi no place to hide him on the ice.

Jerry_Garcia


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:28 pm EST

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2016/04/17/Moon-resident-J-T-Miller-comes-back-to-haunt-the-Penguins/stories/201604170171

mf


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:26 pm EST

Ideally....I would like to see the Blackhawks , Kings, Ducks, Isles, and TB get kicked out in 1st round. ......Rangers , Caps, Panthers, Red Wings, ------ Preds, Sharks, Stars, Blues

TradeStar28


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:18 pm EST

The Penguins were outhit, 57-25, Saturday after being outhit, 50-35, in Game 1. There’s always a concern about a team wearing down over a long series, but Sullivan and his players disputed that. “I don’t think we’re a team that tries to outphysical teams,” defenseman Ben Lovejoy said. “I think we’re a team that’s trying to outskate and outsmart teams. We haven’t done quite enough of that.”................. Sullivan elected to go back to six defensemen after dressing seven in Game 1. Offensive force Justin Schultz was scratched because Sullivan wanted to go with more defensive-oriented defensemen. So much for the best plans........ http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ron-cook/2016/04/17/Ron-Cook-Don-t-panic-Penguins-loss-to-Rangers-just-one-game/stories/201604170184

mf


Sun Apr 17 2016 10:25 pm EST

Boo iceholes

TradeStar28


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:55 pm EST

This is basically a must win for the Ducks - going back 0 and 2 to Nashville will be one huge hole to climb out of.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:54 pm EST

Nasty crap going on in the first few minutes of the Predator/Duck game, mostly initiated by the Ducks.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:53 pm EST

LeoS: Re mayhem if a goal gets scored as the upstairs ref reviews a call and then says 'penalty'. True, but today sometimes play will continue for several minutes after a goal is waived off and then when the next whistle occurs, it gets reviewed and the goal counts and the clock is rewound accordingly. Not perfect but it sure beats what we are seeing now, IMO, which is chaos at times and frustration for all, including, I suspect, the officials who simply cannot keep up to the speed and all that's going on.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 6:01 pm EST

Moof belated happy bday , many moo-re... Tax day ... U da tax man ...

stevielegs


Sun Apr 17 2016 5:38 pm EST

Shea' & Undertaker' have been unreal. Our D is high calibre.

hipcheck


Sun Apr 17 2016 5:20 pm EST

Bunch of April B'days for the Rangers: Dylan McIlrath turns 24 on Wednesday 4/20, he'll be 24..... Girardi 4/29 turns 32, Kreider 4/30 turns 25, MF 4/15 turned 56 :-), Hellberg 4/4 turned 25, there were a bunch in March too, Brady Skjei just turned 22, JT Miller just turned 23, Lundqvist turned 34

mf


Sun Apr 17 2016 5:09 pm EST

A-V must call Diaz or another defender, to not do so would be negligent.. Diaz needs to get a practice in, in the event another D'man gets injured.....However, if AV dresses Diaz over McIlrath the Fans should drive the final nail in the, "fire his ass coffin!" ....

mf


Sun Apr 17 2016 5:01 pm EST

AV putting the marker down; Dan will play when he's healthy!!!! If nothing else frenchy has DES Cajones! Can you imagine the firestorm IF he puts Girardi in and he sucks monkey balls and costs the team the series. Personally I believe the man is Teflon (mostly due to fishboys lack of said Cajones) but I think this unfortunately puts Girardi in a no win situation where he risks the wrath of the garden (which I think AV has never had the pleasure of witnessing in his time). I know he plays with almost any injury but it's diminishing returns after a certain point coach.

_Arc


Sun Apr 17 2016 4:34 pm EST

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/comments/diaz_to_practice_monday_mcdonagh_and_girardi_not_close_av_defends_girardi/

stevielegs


Sun Apr 17 2016 4:25 pm EST

rf4l put 1 ref between the benches with a door if he's too lazy to jump over when needed on the ice....., throw the tv guys out.....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 17 2016 3:54 pm EST

RF4L - You'd still get delayed penalties when 1) the on-ice ref calls something, 2) the upstairs ref calls down and says 'penalty Pens' and the refs arm goes up if we have the puck, he blows it dead if they do. There will, however, be a potential gray area when the penalized team gets possession before the Man Upstairs calls the penalty...and all hell will break loose when a goal by the offending team is taken back by a 'delayed call from upstairs'. But I wholeheartedly agree, *something* has to be done about the officiating. I mean, when the virtual Pens homers Doc and Pierre are commenting on how much the officials were missing in the Pens favor???...nuff siad.

LeoS


Sun Apr 17 2016 3:46 pm EST

after this season whatever fishboy decides is fine with me.including clearing this coaching staff, and whatever players he can move and new ones he can sign.....and what weknow decides during these playoffs I will live with, including putting Diaz in for big mac, since he lost his job because veenyo couldn't send big mac down.....after the playoffs it's a Texas death match even if there is a parade.....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 17 2016 3:22 pm EST

RHET - you may be right about E. Staal...but he and HAYES sure as hell aren't a match..they play totally different games and only one of them strives to be responsible...In addition, having to play W where he is less comfortable doesn't help

Hospo


Sun Apr 17 2016 3:17 pm EST

The biggest problem with Nash this season is that he disappeared in the regular season too. In past seasons, based on being the dangerous person he was in the regular season, other teams made him a focus in the postseason. Other teams were concerned where he was when on the ice. It takes pressure off the other lines. Even when he didn't score himself. Now? He just blends into the woodwork and is just another skater. We have no real star forward threat on the ice anymore(another reason to go sign Stamkos). I look at Eric Staal through the same lens. We can say maybe he's playing injured, but he looks like the same ineffectual guy he was in Carolina to me. JMO.

Rhet0ric


Sun Apr 17 2016 3:09 pm EST

stromwall some day becomes Stromboli - wall.....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 17 2016 2:46 pm EST

Sorry MF, this time of year, when you start using salary as an argument for performance, I glaze over. Who cares - at this point - what they make? Technically (yes I know there is a bonus pot) theyre not being paid in the playoffs.

WIOSA


Sun Apr 17 2016 2:15 pm EST

Malte Stromwall: you folks may want to listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To4ZEW8XZQM&ebc=ANyPxKq8MwXg0jN6Nbgc7anhfAd-33fo-knppkoeMAbXlXwXT4i50tXOwevs7WSk_6MknEts1mgV

mf


Sun Apr 17 2016 2:10 pm EST

BTW: any of you trade Kreider during the regular season poster's, an exiled Wallster pointed out that Kid K notched his 19th career playoff goal yesterday... His playoff stats are: 62gp, 19g's, 13 helpers, 32 points and is -5......... I decided to compare vs Rick Nash because his $7.8mill salary is "specifically earmarked for 1st line production;" result? NASH 62gp, 10g's, 23 helpers, 33 points, +6.........

mf


Sun Apr 17 2016 1:01 pm EST

The time off is definitely a two way street, but like I said, I feel its advantage Rangers. Yes, Malkin & MAF get the additional time to heal too, but the Penguinista's brought the "A" game which put them on their winning streak at the end of the season..... The Rangers are just beginning to discover their 60 full minutes of effort / A game, and we owned them.. We have 3 days to consider our next full 60 minute effort in consecutive games... They need to focus on winning it shift by shift, battle by battle as they amass the wins..... Our 5-2 loss seemed a lot closer than our 4-2 victory.... In the 1st game we ruled the 1st period, but ended down 1-0 on a fluke.. Their 2nd goal was capitalizing on a mistake by a top guy in the league... Goal 5 was an empty netter.... In game 2, their 2nd goal was a result of a 4 on 3 PP advantage.... mf says, "momentum Rangers for the 3rd game at The Garden." jmo snatcherally

mf


Sun Apr 17 2016 12:49 pm EST

E - You are zero fun! Too level headed...I'd rather see Diaz take the wrong bus and end up in Nova Scotia so there is zero chance of him playing!......MF - good points about Ranger recovwey...but it works just as much or more for the Penguins..and they also get another day to figure how to work MALKIN in....he didn't help much at all yesterday

Hospo


Sun Apr 17 2016 12:46 pm EST

I don't think at this time of year teams need physical practices. Just stay loose. Most of it is x and o's stuff.

E


Sun Apr 17 2016 12:44 pm EST

I'm not surprised that Diaz was recalled. You have 2-rookies with almost no experience. I thought Mcilrath had a few rough shifts early in the game but he did seem to settle in. But each of these guys could hit a rough patch soon. But I don't think either did anything that'd get them pulled right now. Just need reinforcements. Diaz for all his limitations has been here.

E


Sun Apr 17 2016 12:39 pm EST

The gap between games may be "advantage Rangers." ..... Stepan may be seeing stars as a result of the "non-boarding call," Eric Staal clearly has an injured right shoulder which may need surgery in the offseason (my call here, nothing that I've seen in print), Girardi is probably bruised & welted all over prior to his recent head shot, and Mcdonagh ticks another 72 hours of healing time off the clock.. Father Time Dan Boyle gets to soak in geritol, and the team can get a day off and a full practice in........

mf


Sun Apr 17 2016 12:21 pm EST

Regarding the scheduling: There is a concert at MSG Monday night so 1st available date is Tuesday. Rather inconsistent when other teams are playing back to back playoff games like the Isles & Panthers just did... MSG's schedule: http://www.thegarden.com/calendar ............ Playoff Schedule 1st round: : https://www.nhl.com/stanley-cup-playoffs

mf


Sun Apr 17 2016 12:08 pm EST

Defenseman Raphael Diaz expected to join NYR at practice tomorrow, per AV...Can't wait until the inevitable!

Hospo


Sun Apr 17 2016 12:06 pm EST

One immediate downside to this is the fact that there wouldn't be an ability to have a delayed call (or so it seems to me) because there's no way of clearly indicating to both teams one now has a penalty called on them without blowing the play stopped. That said, you don't stop the play if the team that has the infraction doesn't have the puck. You call it once they take control. Perhaps the ref on the ice could signal something unique, if the ref upstairs calls for a penalty, if that case so all know if the victimized team has control of the puck - they then could react as they do today under the delayed call rules.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 12:02 pm EST

BTW, more to my suggestion - you'd put a time limit to how long the upstairs official has to review and decide a penalty should be called. Maybe a minute maximum? I guess that depends on how effective the review technology is. One could certainly decide easily if the hit on Stepan was illegal in less than a minute for example.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 12:00 pm EST

Hospo: No, the Pack season ended this weekend. And no wonder - the lack of talent down there is stark and of course, not surprising given all the draft picks Sather has traded away over the past 4 to 5 years. Basically, they can't score. Kovacs is a kid the Rangers drafted last June - one of 2 3rd rounders they had. He's like 6' and 172 and this new kid is of similar size. Both are fast and have offensive upside. Stromwall is Hartford bound next fall and some reports are saying Kovacs will come over, too. If so (and they are indeed reasonably talented) good because the Pack desperately need a talent upgrade, especially at forward.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:55 am EST

Been saying it for years and it's only getting worse - the NHL is by far the worse officiated pro league in NA. It's so obvious a totally new way of officiating needs to be devised - the current methods are failing miserably and make the league look foolish, which of course, it is in so many ways. Start with the concept of putting one ref upstairs mic'd to the one on the ice and give him technology to do instantaneous replays on the fly to quickly review anything unclear. It matters not if the call is a few seconds after the infraction occurs - if/when so, put the clock back to the time where the infraction occurred and remove from the record anything of importance that happened in those few seconds (other than another infraction - if that happens it gets added to the one that has stopped the play). Is this perfect? Of course not. WOuld it require tweaking after it's introduced? Probably. But so what? It's far better than the crap we are enduring currently. So many infractions went uncalled yesterday that would be called if the officials had a clearer and second chance at viewing.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:54 am EST

RF4L - And thanks for the comparison to Robin Kovacs...One question, what the hell is a Robin Kovacs? :)

Hospo


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:53 am EST

Pack didn't make the AHL POs??

Hospo


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:41 am EST

Stromwell is skilled and fast and sounds a little like Robin Kovacs, with whom he played this past season and probably why he came up on the Rangers radar. Sounds like a decent signing. I believe this puts the Rangers signed player total at 49. That said, now that the Pack's season is over, there will be some freeing up there because I'd estimate at least 1/4 of those players (plus some in the EHL) won't be resigned.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:36 am EST

Rangers just announced the signing of some Swedish kid Malte Stromwall. Ola, know anything about him???

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:13 am EST

ARC--That would explain how, for years now, Malkin has been allowed to slew foot, slash, spear and crosscheck his way into the hearts of Pittsburgh fans without any notice from referees. When the Penguins trade him, how much you want to bet the deferential treatment from the referees goes away? Bettman bows before the throne of Mario, and the Penguins finally hired a coach who will bow to Crosby. Guess they got tired of the league being populated by coaches and GM's who were undermined by Skidney.

Bob


Sun Apr 17 2016 11:05 am EST

_Arc - Last time I ever worry about a ref when he gets ht in the face with the puck! Not surprising though...

Hospo


Sun Apr 17 2016 10:57 am EST

Vic- Ive related this to the wall before; I met a senior official involved with the Refs association a few years ago (right after the outdoor game in which the officials tried their best to send the game to overtime) and I have never been the 'fan' I was before. He basically admitted flat out (suffice to say he was a bit mentally altered at the time) to the agenda's the refs have when they call a game. How certain teams and ESPECIALLY certain PLAYERS have to play on significantly tilted ice. I've never been able to look past that hit to the integrity of the game.

_Arc


Sun Apr 17 2016 10:31 am EST

* Game 3

TradeStar28


Sun Apr 17 2016 10:31 am EST

Hospo.....not a bad thing that game 2 is on Tuesday....Yes, gives the Pens rest but don't forget that the Rangers BEST not named Henrik is also getting time to heal. : )

TradeStar28


Sun Apr 17 2016 10:24 am EST

Vic - said the EXACT same thing yesterday, re: ZATKOFF being out of the crease. Kreider's contact with him wasn't even deliberate to make the call even worse. There is no league on the planet in which that was a penalty, much less the professional ones. Check it: If you're a goalie and you skate out of your crease, you better be ready for contact. Zatkoff's skater were planted at least a foot out from the crease. Not sure if any part of him was in the crease. And then Kreider literally got pushed into him. Kind of like the phantom call from Game 1, where the on-ice officials weren't even sure who drew the penalty...this was a clear case of refs trying to make a one-sided game interesting.

tdchi


Sun Apr 17 2016 10:17 am EST

On McILRATH - Agreed, he wasn't exactly a pillar of strength yesterday. Think there was a lot going through his head at one time to process. Don't think he played bad, per se...had a couple nice shots during one rush and played CROSBY well...I don't necessarily agree with limiting him to 9 minutes, but understand why it was done.

tdchi


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:58 am EST

What's the deal with this three days between games BS?? Ridiculous...It would also help the Rangers if the battered Pens had less rest...Rangers definetely played lie previous years model yesterday...Gotta keep it up...Yes , if either Mcd or Girardi is ready, Mcilrath sits..It's the way it is...funny, but I think Girardi could be fine as a 3rd pair d-man..instead of bring abused/misused by AV..Love mcilrath's physical presence but he was a little shakey.....Back at the Garden with the change, he can play more agasint the 3rd and 4th liners and should do just fine..

Hospo


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:36 am EST

WIOSA - See, I don't for one minute believe that AV would make any changes in his lineup if MALKIN is playing/is scratched. That kind of nonsense might go on during the regular season...but in the playoffs? Hell no. AV is going to ice his best team and that means figuring that Pittsburgh is going to dress their best team. I mean, do any of us think LINDBERG or GIRARDI would be in if AV knew Malkin was playing? Or that ZATKOFF was the starter? Hell no. So Sully is playing a stupid game of coy with the media, which is a ridiculous side show. If you're going to meet with the media, talk to them, don't play BS games. If not, close the door and say we'll talk later. He's just a clueless piece of garbage.

tdchi


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:28 am EST

The officiating was a joke last night, as it so often is in the NHL. How the Pens are allowed to get away with so much yet the Rangers are called for penalties that are questionable at best is beyond me. The call on HAYES I can live with if they are going to call the same crap against the Pens. They didn't. The call on KREIDER was a joke. ZATKOFF was outside of the crease and KREIDER had no idea he was even there. The call on YANDLE after MAKLIN hacked him. The non call on the slash on KREIDER. The non call on the massive hook into KREIDER. The non call on the boarding of STEPAN. I could go on and on. There was another one that happened after the play that I'm not sure many saw. I think it was late in the second period. The play had ended and as the camera was pulling away and starting to fade to go to some graphic HAYES was skating around the net with MALKIN. My guess is that MALKIN had just something to HAYES that was away from the camera (as MALKIN is a dirty SOB) and HAYES was jawing or giving him a little slash. I distinctly saw MALKIN throw a punch at HAYES as the camera was fading away and then a crowd of players closed in. No call. The Rangers did get away with a few last night but not nearly what the Pens got away with. I did see MZA slew-foot someone and thought for sure it was going to get called but it didn't. When the officials are calling ticky-tack shit while major and even dangerous crap is being let go there is a real problem in this league.

Vic


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:18 am EST

Really nice bounce back game for the team and a lot of players. HANK was really sharp. KREIDER was a force right from the opening draw. BRASSARD, MILLER, MZA, NASH and STEPAN all played with intensity and desire. The top 2 lines showed up last night and carried the team the way they should every night. Now, can they do that consistently? If they do then we can officially declare that the switch has been flipped. Also very strong yesterday were SKJEI, KLEIN and STAAL. I thought McILRATH had some good moments but was struggling with the Pens speed at times. I think he would have been much more prepared had he played more this season. I thought FAST and STALBERG played hard working games that got under the Pens skin too last night.

Vic


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:14 am EST

WIOSA: My thoughts on 2 of your questions: I think McI's 9 minutes is simply a matter of his coach not particularly liking him. From what I saw, McI was fine. This poor kid continually gets short-changed by his coach and it's amazing he's able to play at all given the lack of playing time he's been afforded all year and especially down the stretch where until game 80 he got no time. So unfair to expect him to play competently - what a conundrum for McI: You make mistakes you get benched but you're not given enough icetime to get into a rhythm. Ridiculous. On Hank's comments, probably just a way of amping up the kids' confidence - no doubt means a lot coming from someone like him. And both did play well. Girardi was not missed at all but you know AV is itching to get him back in and McI back to the pressbox.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:09 am EST

And yes I think it's not rocket science to believe that more of the same from the Rangers in game 3 is required but predicting what team will actually show up is basically a roll of the dice.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:03 am EST

stevie: Yes, very true and look what happened - a 42 goal season. Never before had that been said of Nash and we didn't hear it last fall either. I'm not saying he's a mufflin lover but Steve Stamkos he's not either.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:02 am EST

If the Rangers take the body at the Garden like they did yesterday, the place will not be the library it has been for most of the season. After Kreider wrecked Letang in the first period, Letang spent the rest of the game trying to avoid hits. The return of Igor Malkin wrecked the chemistry Pittsburgh had built up. The Rangers proved that you can forecheck the weak Pittsburgh defense into mistakes. They heard the footsteps of the Rangers forwards all afternoon. When they play like that, they can beat anyone including the Crapitals.

Bob


Sun Apr 17 2016 9:01 am EST

Couple of questions...1. TD, why should Sully tip his hand on who's playing and who's not when no other coach in the NHL does? That includes our coach btw. Up until game time he would not confirm Dylan and just prior to that, Hank. 2. I dont think it would be wise for any coach to let his starting goalie sit for 1 - 2 weeks. That would not be a good idea, it's my argument against how AV treats Dylan and Oscar. 3. All, why did Dylan (sorry if this was covered already couldnt read all the posts last night...had a sick pup) only get 9 minutes? Is anyone else seeing poor play out of Dylan? Im not seeing it,,,one scuffle behind the net, no penalty, i dont get it. 4. Was Hanks remark about the young guys coming up and playing good which we REALLY need, a dig at Girardi? Just curious if anyone else felt that.

WIOSA


Sun Apr 17 2016 8:57 am EST

BTW, another stoic performance from Marc Staal. I think he goes under appreciated at times because we might expect more from him than he's capable of in terms of flash and dash. He is steady and strong and IMO, still a solid top 4 defenseman with top pairing abilities. That's been kinda lost with McD around.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 8:49 am EST

On the game: See what happens when you hit and go to the net and...PLAY 60 MINUTES OF HOCKEY...First off, SULLIVAN is a moron. I never liked that guy and how he's a coach in the NHL is far beyond me...My only theory is that he's stupid enough to let CROSBY run the show, which is why 87 suddenly started playing hockey again...but I digress...the guy is a retard. This BS with the mums the word before the game...trying to play head games with AV...just horseshit...And I have a sneaking suspicion that ZATKOFF starting these past two games is more Sully's utter hubris toward the Rangers as an opponent than it is FLEURY'S health I think he figured he could knock off a couple wins with a career AHLer to let the Flower rest for the next round against Washington. Bet Fleury starts Game 3...not to say that Zatkoff is responsible for the L...and this bit with MALKIN...like seriously. Does he think the Rangers are going to suddenly shake in their boots because they see him on the ice? Sully showing why he's not head coach material...One place the Rangers have a HUGE advantage..pun not intended...is size and physicality. The Pens are as soft as a baby's behind. Once we started pasting them on the boards, their game went south. Key to defeating Pittsburgh last year was pounding them and it hasn't changed this year...in fact, I would argue this Penguins team is actually SOFTER than last year's. When a piece of garbage like KUNITZ is your top physical player, you're in trouble...Couple places where I've been wrong...first is KLEIN. Figured he'd be moved to make room on the right...but man am I glad I was wrong. The guy has consistently been one of the Rangers' best defensemen...and SKJEI...Gotta admit, I didn't see much in him before he came to Hartford. There, I finally saw why the Rangers drafted him, but still couldn't really understand the hype...I kind of figured he'd be a John MOORE-type player. But he's a lot faster than Moore is/was...and if he can develop a little bit of offense in his game, he could be a real find for this team...Now the guy who put on his big boy pants yesterday was BRASSARD. Man, when he wants to turn it on, can he EVER! Guy was just a beast the whole game. And looking at the box score now, that's clearly reflected: 1 goal, 2 assists, +4 and SEVEN hits. That's the guy you need in the center. And I hope he remembers this performance. Hits...MAN, they tarred Shitsburgh...Eight for Klein, Seven for Brass and Glass, six for Zucc and Kreider...The only three players without a hit were YANDLE, BOYLE and ironically, McILRATH...read somewhere that the Rangers play bigger with him in the lineup? Well if you ever need evidence of this, watch yesterday's game...now I now this needs no mention, because the NHL ALWAYS want's Pittsburgh to go deep. And this year, I'm sure Buttman is half hard thinking of a Pittsburgh-Washington meeting in the second round...but the officiating has been nothing short of COMICAL. Just phantom penalties everywhere...ESPECIALLY when the Rangers go up 4-1. They wanted to make it a closer game than it was. It's just really sad that it's come to this...just like this coaches challenge bullshit...talk about a way to kill momentum...Basically anytime a guy scores on a breakaway, it's in your favor to have your centerman skate real slow to the faceoff circle so your crew can review. And if there's even a half-question about whether a foot was on or off the blueline, you challenge. The St. Louis wave-off was beyond weak, and I really feared they were going to do the same thing in Pittsburgh...but I guess that level of cheating was too egregious for even Buttman's crew...In this case, Sully probably would have taken a time out anyway, because the Pens were reeling...he had the added hope...and probably a 50-50 chance...of getting a good goal reversed...If that play occurred 10 times in a game, every time it would get challenged and five of those times the goal would be reversed. Total BS...Game 3 better be more of what the Rangers brought...here I agree with Carp...the big, big, big question is what Rangers team shows up on Tuesday.

tdchi


Sun Apr 17 2016 8:36 am EST

the question is do the nyr continue to take the body, and do the pigpens let it knock them off their game.....it's how they beat them the last 2 playoffs...crybaby and company are easily distracted....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 17 2016 8:22 am EST

rf4l that's not really true , last year or the year before they claimed he can to camp in the best shape on the team....i think most of his problems are mental alias confidence....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 17 2016 8:18 am EST

stevie et al: I've been observing the same thing about Nash. Gotta figure he's not in game shape after missing all that time. I don't think he's the most dedicated fitness buff either.

RF4L


Sun Apr 17 2016 8:18 am EST

Krapa, Ulablob and Harry York...mentioned on the wall in less than 24 hours...in 2016. Count me in as one who never envisioned this happening...

tdchi


Sun Apr 17 2016 7:54 am EST

I went back to look at start of the 2 nd period when dick rash missed on the breakaway and then wanted to get off at 19:20 a 40 second shift but couldn't so he stay on another 15 seconds ... He seems to be constantly looking to get off no matter what's happening on the ice....

stevielegs


Sun Apr 17 2016 7:34 am EST

"put on their Big Boy Pants"...yeah, with the exception of Dick Rash...he's still incontinent, in Certainty, in diapers, in Depends, in Always...except when it's time to get off the ice...then he just "goes".

RF73


Sun Apr 17 2016 7:08 am EST

Thoughts: 1) Hey, all year long, we knew – or thought — that game was in there. It’s just that the Rangers didn’t let it out nearly enough. But in an Onions Game 2, the Rangers reached back to their last four playoff years and came up with one of their best 60-minute performances in the first 84 games. 2) As for changing my prediction? Well, I have to admit, I’m a little bit worried about looking the fool now. But I won’t back off it until this Rangers team, which is clearly not the previous four, does it again. We have seen so often through 84 games that these highlights are usually followed by mediocrity, incomplete performances or flat-out flat ones, as they did down the stretch of the regular seasion. 3) As for the rest of this series, or making any type of run in these playoffs. Well, if they can break character and do that again, and again, and again … Chris Kunitz, Kevin Klein4) See, the problem over the first 83 was most often an inability or unwillingness to play the full 60. To perform with high-level effort, not just some of the Rangers, but all of them. Especially their top guys. Well, in Onions Game 2, they were all present and accounted for, top to bottom. They played pretty good D against a dangerous offense. They played hard – boy, did they? – and their top six forwards, many of whom were absent for portions, if not nearly all of Game 1, put on their Big Boy Pants. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/17/game-2-rangers-penguins-in-review-2/#sthash.LLm68f8t.dpuf

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 11:41 pm EST

Kings push the limit always. But SJ is shutting them down so far.

Bob


Sat Apr 16 2016 11:14 pm EST

Anyone watching the LA/SJ game? Man they are really beating the crap out of each other...can't root for either team but fun to watch.

NYStranger


Sat Apr 16 2016 10:43 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/16/pumped-up-fans-get-to-celebrate-win-with-this-rangers-great/?_ga=1.173046691.1211961782.1460864542

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 10:40 pm EST

Bob....yep, thought and said the same thing late in the 3rd when I saw that McI had 9 minutes of icetime. And guess what? G won't get 9 minutes...

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 10:38 pm EST

Rosen is a decent play by play dude, even at his age. He gets dummied down by being saddled with that idiot Prickidic...

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:49 pm EST

Bob I fear you are right......

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:37 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/16/nhl-replay-rules-two-ways-the-system-can-be-improved/

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:37 pm EST

I guarantee that Girardi will be back in for McIlrath before the end of the series.

Bob


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:30 pm EST

An almost complete game....so if AV reinserts Girardi he should be fired on the spot. Any update on Stepan?

MelvilleFred


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:28 pm EST

http://nypost.com/2016/04/16/it-takes-more-than-that-to-annoy-outstanding-henrik-lundqvist/

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:24 pm EST

10 players with 20 or more assists

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:23 pm EST

Hospo: I should have been more specific. Over the course of the season, our point production was spread across the line-up: Top 5 in goals: Brassard 27g, Zucc 26g, Stepan 22g, Miller 22g, Kreider 21g.....and for the assists: http://espn.go.com/nhl/team/stats/_/name/nyr/seasontype/2/cat/assists/new-york-rangers

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 8:24 pm EST

Wonder what's with Eric Staal's right shoulder - that's at least the third time since we acquired him he's been clutching at it but been able to return...

LeoS


Sat Apr 16 2016 8:20 pm EST

MF - I'm digging your optimism and agree with most except for the "scoring throughout the lineup" ..Only two lines haves scored or come close to scoring in this series...But that may be good enough to beat the Pens if the top two lines kkeep scoring

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 8:19 pm EST

I listened on radio also, Rosen & Maloney were really good together.

hipcheck


Sat Apr 16 2016 8:17 pm EST

Stalberg, Kreider, Miller, Fast, Glass, McIlrath, Klein, Nash & ZUCCARELLO ALL took the body hard all game. Haven't seen that in a long time. Loved it. Great win. Feels good to have a little breathing room. So Happy.

hipcheck


Sat Apr 16 2016 6:59 pm EST

nice to win, it calms everyone down a little.....just hope they hit them more in the next game....it worked ..i wonder if any pigpen didn't get hit a least once besides the goalie on the bench....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 6:33 pm EST

Best hit of the night was Kreider on Latang after Latang just released a pass. Kreider crushed him into the boards and hurt him. He's as fragile as a china doll to begin with....that one did damage.

JFC31


Sat Apr 16 2016 6:05 pm EST

pounded pigpens....flatten them ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:56 pm EST

Rosen was good on the radio he should stay there and lose dickaletti in traffic

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:54 pm EST

Penn's are going to wear down over the series. We're way more physical, just as fast in our respective ways, our scoring is balanced throughout the line-up as someone here recently mentioned (E?), and........ Our back-up goalie is better than anything they got & we have Hank.... Stay thirsty my friends, stay hungry Rangers!

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:52 pm EST

Kunitz got his ASS BEAT by Calvin Klein!!

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:52 pm EST

Weknow again with we are a team that plays whistle to whistle ... Blow on

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:50 pm EST

@AGrossRecord: Per #NYR, their 57 hits were the most in one playoff game which ended in regulation since NHL began tracking hits at the start of 1997-98.

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:34 pm EST

RDW - Outside of KUNITZ, the Pens have nobody that really hits..ony tak cheapshots...Rangers have been the opposite these two games...hit, hit and more hits..but very clean...Hopefully the pens, especially LETAANG will keep feeling it and it will slow them down..

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:33 pm EST

Latang had a tough day at the office. Rangers played him hard all day long.

hipcheck


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:32 pm EST

York: Agreed on the hitting aspect of the Rangers game. They will wear them down if they keep it up. They should target Letang especially. Kreider got him good a few times today

RDW


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:31 pm EST

Deep breath until Tuesday.

hipcheck


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:30 pm EST

Maloney was questioning why they had mcwrsth playing opposite side I. O zone in the first that he needs to get used to playing. He played well but AV doesn't like the kid that's obvious skeij played like a vet really stepped up his game. He will be a force with wrath on the bavkli e for years to come long after AV is gone. Maloney stated the rangers play bigger when wrath is in the lineup. Refs did everything they could to help the pens back in the game. The hitting is wearing down the pens they aren't built to play against that style.

York18


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:29 pm EST

STEVIE - It's up to the coach or a teamate to say something..not the guy that got hit..

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:28 pm EST

MF - i hope you are right my friend!

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:24 pm EST

Stepan doing a veenyo no comment on getting boarded ...grow a pair

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:19 pm EST

Hard to believe Zucca took all that time and missed the empty net ... Nyr constantly hesitate telegraphing what they are going to do ...almost like a hitch in a baseball batters swing ... Bad habit

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:15 pm EST

Rangers win this series!

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:14 pm EST

Like I said they will split the road games win the two in NY and win it in 5 or 6

York18


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:14 pm EST

Man NBC left the broadcast as fast as the Pitts fans left the building! I could not watch more than bits and pieces, but it sure looked like the refs were 'managing the game' ...cough, cough...buttman, cough...but big win. What is it with Rangers and an inability to score on the empty net? Effin unreal.

NYStranger


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:12 pm EST

The Refs did their best to help the pigpens but didn't succeed ... F them all

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:10 pm EST

Will enjot watching hockey the rest of the weekend.....Huge win.....Enjoyed sharing it with all of you.....BACK TO msg!!!

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:09 pm EST

Man did the shine ever come off of PIT. Last game they were a juggernaut. Unstoppable. Too fast, too skilled, too on a roll. But, as usual with the media they get too stuck in the moment. This is a series. I still contend it's a 7-game.

E


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:08 pm EST

So happy we won but still fuming about the officiating.....Oh and AV is a fool...

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:07 pm EST

Good game, congrats Wallsters, congrats Rangers

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:07 pm EST

Now going outside to enjoy this fabulous spring weather in southern Ontario. And a cold well deserved beer. Or 2. Or 3....

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:07 pm EST

Wel..that game changed on a dime in the second period with those two goals and the HUGE save by the KIng...Not pretty at all..but the split is what you want...Now back tothe Garden

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:07 pm EST

First star: Henrik Lundqvist. Second star: JT Miller, despite his stupid penalty. Third star: Kevin Klein - a rock back there and goes after Punkitz after that nasty slash on Staal. KK is a warrior and would be on my team any day of the week.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:05 pm EST

Rangers doing their best to let Pittsburgh score another. That's 2 uncontested chances in 30 seconds as the Ranger D run away and puck watch. Is McI any worse? Of course not. Shameful coaching decisions.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:05 pm EST

seemed like a quick whistle on that icing call

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:05 pm EST

Well this was a relaxing Saturday afternoon

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:04 pm EST

Rhet: This isn't on Skeji - agreed he's playing well. But he's had many consecutive games, not to mention a full season in the AHL? McI has been poorly handled, especially given the difficulties of G and Boyle. McI is rusty. Self fulfilling prophecy for a-hole AV.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:03 pm EST

RHET - Just pointing it out...SKJEJI has played fine all game

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:02 pm EST

1 minute

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:02 pm EST

I so love the Rangers but OMG it's so hard not to dislike the head coach. I'm to ignore the frustration I feel about him, I really am, but damn it's not easy.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:01 pm EST

C'mon Skjei is playing like a seasoned veteran.

Rhet0ric


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:01 pm EST

2 minute mark

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:01 pm EST

Mac good enough to play most of the game but not with 2 goal lead in the 3rd. Shay on his side now. Anyway to stick it to the kid.

stepunmytoe


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:01 pm EST

SKEJI getting doulbe shifted on both sides

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:00 pm EST

F O penns end

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:00 pm EST

McI with 9 minutes of icetime. Wanna beat Girardi's back Tuesday? I think it's a guarantee.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:00 pm EST

Phuck A-Vishysoisse. Cold soup sucks!

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:58 pm EST

It's clear to me AV has told the Rangers to back off physically to avoid a penalty and now they are getting cheapshotted all over the place. Stupid. So effective in the 2nd so why the hell not keep it up!?!?

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:57 pm EST

AV hates Mcilrath..SKEJJI is his type of player

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:57 pm EST

Empty net goal and send out the dogs

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:57 pm EST

So..Sheji playing opposite side for Mcilrath?

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:56 pm EST

I know. Wishful thinking!

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:56 pm EST

Rangers gotta put an end to this crap..

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:56 pm EST

yeah..If Staal isn't hurt also...

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:55 pm EST

Concuss Letang please.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:54 pm EST

Stepan not on the bench. Put E Staal at center.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:52 pm EST

See McIlrath grab a Penguin by the jersey after Hank covered up? "Priceless!"

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:52 pm EST

JFC/Fotiu: Agreed with both sentiments but ain't gonna happen under the watch of Mr Pacifist AV.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:50 pm EST

If Rangers take.a 3 goal lead, or if game is essenziale over with a lead, Wrath should CRUSH one of The Pens.

JFC31


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:49 pm EST

He's a lost cause.

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:49 pm EST

MF - Just meant t i hadn't seen him in awhile

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:48 pm EST

Nash keeps getting those chances, they'll start going in.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:48 pm EST

How many times have these announcers said that should have been a penalty by a penguin player?

tlats


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:48 pm EST

Thats Nash's 3rd SOG, no points, 15 TOI

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:48 pm EST

Another Ranger D-man just got hurt on a bad hit

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:48 pm EST

Skeji slashed and went to the bench. No call.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:47 pm EST

This may be the poorest officiated game I have ever witnessed!

pa.rangersfan


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:46 pm EST

Nash playin?

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:46 pm EST

stepan hurt? just left the bench...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:45 pm EST

Matt Cullen's a prick, too.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:45 pm EST

This is a game where the last shift you get your big boys on to slash and cross check and beat the piss out of them

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:45 pm EST

Hell shoot the puck and pretty boy Hagelin's face..hurt somebody without a penalty!

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:45 pm EST

Rather have just had the PP....Get even later....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:44 pm EST

Moore hooked by Crosby....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:44 pm EST

OMG, I hate this team. I HATE them. I want someone to seriously injure a Penguin. Preferably Kunitz....

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:44 pm EST

E en the god damn linseman taking sides!

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:44 pm EST

Pens are a bunch of cheap whiny fucks

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:43 pm EST

Fuckin linesmen, Kunitz is outmatched they jump right in

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:43 pm EST

Look at that hook that prevented a legitimate scoring chance and no call.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:43 pm EST

Anither freakin hook right in front

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:41 pm EST

The coach needs to call over the officials and complain.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:41 pm EST

Gotta score the next goal...then Maime somebody bad

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:41 pm EST

I think AV chews his gum harder when the refs blow calls like this.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:41 pm EST

NHL officiating. Flat-out pathetic.

Bob


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:40 pm EST

I rarely whiNe aBOUT refs BUT THIS IS ABSOUTE BULLSHIT...pENS GETTING AWAY WITH EVERYTHING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE god dman refs..

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:40 pm EST

AV's nice guy crap annoys me to no end.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:40 pm EST

Hate to whine but this just isn't right....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:39 pm EST

Firestorm. Ridiculous.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:39 pm EST

Two handed slash on Kreider and no call. This is disgusting

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:39 pm EST

This is when I really miss Torts - he'd be all over the officials for that no call.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:39 pm EST

no holds barred

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:39 pm EST

Unreal....This is making me sick.....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:38 pm EST

boarding no call wtf

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:38 pm EST

My head is going to explode. How the f is that not a boarding call???

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:38 pm EST

WTF!!! WTF!!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:37 pm EST

The refs stink and even the NBC guys agree!!!

rngrsans


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:36 pm EST

pigpens constantly holding 1 hand off their sticks

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:35 pm EST

nbc nothing but crying

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:35 pm EST

This officiating is a disgrace....Brass held and Step tripped and nothing...

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:35 pm EST

There's Stepan, tripped behind the Penguin bench and NO CALL! Leaving him trapped and an odd man rush Pittsburgh. Phuck all you refs.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:35 pm EST

Yandle is a bag of shit that I can't wait until he is gone.

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:34 pm EST

no call

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:34 pm EST

freaking pens are tripping and hooking all over the place with nothing...Cripple Crosby please

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:34 pm EST

stepan tripped no goal

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:34 pm EST

Malkin diving like Brian boitano out there. Everything is a dive

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:32 pm EST

BTW, is Derek Stepan dressed tonight?

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:31 pm EST

Fuckin joke!

pa.rangersfan


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:31 pm EST

Kreider call a disgrace.....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:31 pm EST

Wake up Rangers....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:31 pm EST

Zebras trying their best to make it a game. What a god damn disgrace

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:31 pm EST

Kessel & the Pizzas again..........

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:30 pm EST

thanks refs great bs

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:30 pm EST

I knew that ugly phuck Malkin would start that crap. Of course, no penalty for him. Ridiculous.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:30 pm EST

Can't do this.....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:29 pm EST

McIlrath covered Crosby very well

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:28 pm EST

Mcvilrath had a few understandable yips in the first period..Gives AV all the ammo he needs in his peanut brain...This is a game Mcilrath should get steady ice now

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:28 pm EST

Fotiu: Minimal minutes for McI because AV doesn't like him.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:28 pm EST

Since when is goalie interference when the goalie is outside the crease?

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:28 pm EST

What a pile of shit call. Jackoff way out and everyone's going for the puck. Idiot officials.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:26 pm EST

Ha ha Crosby!! LOLOLOL....

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:26 pm EST

Games getting chippy out there. Why Big Mac isn't getting minutes is a mystery. Watch this dunce put Girardi back in for game 3

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:26 pm EST

two things the Rangers need to d the rest of the game.....KISS and maybe hurt Crosby, Malkin or Letang

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:25 pm EST

Who the snot is Harry York? LOL....or do you mean Harry Howell?

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:24 pm EST

No wondewr we're winning..it's HARRY YORK's birthday! NICK's fvorite yooung player of old...

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:23 pm EST

Yes....way to get your face in there McI. Just don't take a dumb penalty...AV is looking for a reason to park your ass on the bench and say to Gorton 'see why I don't want him in the lineup?'.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:22 pm EST

Nash has been fine, IMO, other than his gooseegg on the scoresheet of course, but isn't that his PO MO?

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:21 pm EST

When Kreider plays physical, you got to love it..... Stalberg's on my keeper list for next season

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:21 pm EST

I like Stalberg's fiestiness.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:20 pm EST

BTW, Shitsburgh will start handing out cheap shots if they don't climb back into the game. That's a guarantee.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:19 pm EST

NASH: 2 SOG, no points, +2

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:18 pm EST

RF4L- Mcilrath barely played in the 2nd period

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:17 pm EST

Hard work and hitting pays off

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:17 pm EST

Okay Chris I take it all back....Woo Hoo

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:17 pm EST

There ya go KID K!!

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:17 pm EST

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO! Now that's the way to start the 3rd!!!!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:16 pm EST

Kreider 4 - 1

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:16 pm EST

McI with less than 7 minutes of icetime. AV playing this kid reluctantly I am convinced. If the Pens score early, he'll end up with less than 10 minutes overall.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:14 pm EST

Girardi who ?

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:14 pm EST

Bob: Agreed on both your posts.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:13 pm EST

My wife's cat knows better from Game1

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:13 pm EST

RF4L--Letang sure has slowed down a bit since Kreider wrecked him a couple times. He has to keep his head up.

Bob


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:12 pm EST

Brings me no joy to say this, but I did not miss Dan Girardi so far today.

Bob


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:12 pm EST

Rangers hit and roughed up Hagelin a little the first game - he's been invisible today. Coincidence? I think not.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:12 pm EST

Stevie that was too FU@king HILARIOUS

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:12 pm EST

WIOSA - Spelt like a true ITALIAN! RangerLOU - Already to my wife she's making anothe Strromboli for Monday...I can't repeat what she said in reply!something along the lines ah Fangul you and your stromboli...

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:11 pm EST

Lou: Your wife's cat might like your farts!!!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:11 pm EST

The coaches need to be yelling about the guy coming out of the penalty box also....Can't keep getting burned....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:11 pm EST

Rangers outhitting the Pigeons 41 to 15!!!! Absolutely love it.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:11 pm EST

Lou,,oh, we cant have that, bad enough your family has to sit through you cursing at the TV.

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:10 pm EST

I always like Hagelin, but ahem, he was on for Brassards' and Zuuccs' goals....Stevie, nobody seems to be in sync on this team, except Yandle and Dylan

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:10 pm EST

rlou no sharts

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:09 pm EST

If Shitsburgh comes out hard and scores, the rest of the period will be a firestorm. The Rangers must come out strong IMO.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:09 pm EST

Wiosa..Beans make me FART !! BIG Time! !!

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:08 pm EST

Brady got an assist on Brassards' goal..woo hoo...Dylan seems to be holding his own. 1sog, +1

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:04 pm EST

Wiosa it's been going on all year, weknow craps his pants and micromanages with his eyes closed....he's too nervous ....he has caused goals and helped miss opportunities with his bad bench management...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:02 pm EST

Lou..and here I was on the verge of suggesting Pasta Figoli next time.

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:01 pm EST

My Victory strombolies are making me hungry for more GOAL!!!!

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 4:00 pm EST

Stevie, I was JUST saying that...we never had screwups with our line changes before, what is going on?

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:59 pm EST

I can take a brain fart from JT, he's had three assists...Zuuc had a goal..Hayes is not making me happy lately....and of course, the invisibile man. Kreider.

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:59 pm EST

win , lose, or draw this game this series this payoffs, this coaching staff has to go...they player and line change like helen keller....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:59 pm EST

Nice kill....Need to get next one and put this game away....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:59 pm EST

Huge 20 minutes coming up. Take this series back to the Garden where we dominated this year. Do not hold on for dear life. Play hockey and do not try and kill a 20 minute power play

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:58 pm EST

3 goal period, how "un-Ranger-like,"

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:58 pm EST

So do we see the Rangers go into a shell in the 3rd? I say yes

RDW


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:58 pm EST

Okay,,,were out of the danger zone (less than 2 minutes left in the period).

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:56 pm EST

Now get out of this period with the 2 goal lead. Plllllllllllllleasssssssssssssssssse!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:56 pm EST

run off by MALKIN my ass..He was hooked

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:55 pm EST

Boy is the King kicking out those rebounds.....

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:55 pm EST

...and with only 2 minutes left...I cant watch

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:55 pm EST

Good thing we didn't bench Zucc! ;)

JFC31


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:55 pm EST

!@#$ JT...

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:54 pm EST

OMG, WTF was Miller thinking. A 3rd asinine penalty by the Rangers.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:54 pm EST

Just can't be this stupid.....Just can't

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:54 pm EST

We need to keep pressing and make this a blowout....

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:54 pm EST

Brain fart!

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:54 pm EST

JFC. Just about to type in stay out of the box.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:53 pm EST

Now THAT was some good chemistry and team work....by MILLER and MZA...Show me more!

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:53 pm EST

Zuuuuuc! My favorite...

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:53 pm EST

keep it in and score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!jt 3 assists

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:53 pm EST

Miller to Zucc!!!!!!!!!!

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:53 pm EST

What a pass, yeah baby........ chase Jackoff out of the game

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:52 pm EST

Glad AV didn't listen to me!!! Way to go ZUKE!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:52 pm EST

What a shift! Finish this baby

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:51 pm EST

KK having a superb game. So glad he never got traded (not that there was any reason to believe he was being shopped).

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:50 pm EST

Take it to the net JT.....Get the next one....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:49 pm EST

Freaking HUGE by THE KING..saving the D's ass

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:48 pm EST

Another bad PP.

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:48 pm EST

Where is the awareness of this team??? Thank goodness for the King....

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:47 pm EST

Let's decline the next power play. Losing momentum.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:46 pm EST

PP being a momentum killer here....geeesh...

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:45 pm EST

Shaggy, how romantic

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:44 pm EST

Let's have a good power play and score right here. Change this series right now

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:44 pm EST

Good shift Rangers

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:44 pm EST

Be still my heart...no way I thought we were getting that call! That was more offsides than St Lou last night!!!

Shaggy


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:44 pm EST

YES!!!! Keep the pressure coming and get this Jackoff to collapse mentally like the career AHLer he is (and stop all the crap about how wonderful he is and how amazing he's playing)

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:43 pm EST

Wow..lucked out on that one.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:43 pm EST

Finally a break our way!

jratelle19


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:43 pm EST

Woooooooo, glad to be wrong! Let's Go Rangers!!!!

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:43 pm EST

YEEEESSSSSS

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:43 pm EST

Damn..I'm shocked

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:43 pm EST

Woooooooi hoooooooo

tlats


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:43 pm EST

Yes

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:43 pm EST

Come on Eddie....You can't tell from that you prick....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:43 pm EST

Hold on, Call Bungholio Buttman

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:42 pm EST

We aren't getting this call

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:42 pm EST

We need this call.........

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:42 pm EST

Great, here comes the "zapruder frame 313"

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:42 pm EST

Agreed. Can't overturn based on this........

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:42 pm EST

Very VERY close...

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:41 pm EST

In Pittsburgh...Crosby.lovers everywhere,..NO GOAL

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:41 pm EST

That's not conclusive

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:41 pm EST

Damn

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:41 pm EST

We may get screwed here..........

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:41 pm EST

Oh shit...offside?

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:40 pm EST

Yes brass big ass

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:40 pm EST

Holy Hemorehoids...damn.....Let's keep bitching..

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:40 pm EST

There goes the 3rd string goalies confidence! Yeah baby.... Come home with a split... Let's go Rangers, don't fuck this up!!!

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:40 pm EST

Simple hockey....shoot it on the fucking net and get rebounds!! AND BREAKAWAYS!!!

JFC31


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:40 pm EST

Wow! A puck and a body to the net. And they didn't miss. I'm shocked.

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:40 pm EST

Nice....Brass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:40 pm EST

Jackoff showing why he's a career minor leaguer! WOOOHOOOO!!!!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:39 pm EST

Finally...Some natiness by the 4th line..Nash in front of the net..and a goal..

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:39 pm EST

Finally yandle lights the candle

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:39 pm EST

F yeah

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:39 pm EST

RF4L: I don't yell and scream anymore at the TV. Their were plenty of times this season I just turned the games off. Something about this team this year that just turned me off. At least they won't get shut out today.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:39 pm EST

OMG, Rangers crowd the crease and look what happens!!! A GOAL!!!!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:38 pm EST

Miller really blew a great set up.....We need a break...Deflection, something to get us going....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:38 pm EST

Put the 4th line on. At least they are going to the net. Wish glass would have gotten more of a piece of Cindy right there

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:38 pm EST

Glass almost killed Skidney....

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:38 pm EST

Hospo: 4th line showing emotion!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:37 pm EST

Weknow don't know

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:37 pm EST

NN: Yes....agreed. Good point!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:37 pm EST

And it's so startling how better coached the Penguins are than this collection of Ranger layers..I refuse to say team anymore

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:36 pm EST

I will say this - it's fun to bitch and moan about my favourite team with my wall-mates. Healthier than yelling and screaming at my TV while my family watches me with a mixture of amusement and annoyance.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:35 pm EST

MF - Good one!

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:35 pm EST

Pp? Wafj... Dick rash with an A? For what asshole asleep ?

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:35 pm EST

Another plus...one more week and the Dan Boyle experiment is over !

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:35 pm EST

where's Stepan? really

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:35 pm EST

mf - it's called passionate fandom!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:34 pm EST

Phuckin' Miller...what was that wild ass shot? Geeesh....ridiculous.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:34 pm EST

Hospo: wtf, everyone here on the wall is pissed! ;-)

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:33 pm EST

On a + note Skeji continues to look good.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:32 pm EST

Here comes the rusty lawn chair PP.

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:32 pm EST

Rangers PP a measily 8% in their last 7 games...stat just uttered on the HNIC broadcast.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:31 pm EST

Have to score here. About time they made a call. Dee had Nash in a bear hug before that and no call

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:31 pm EST

This team is going to get swept. They should have broken up up this team after getting shut out in games 5 and 7 of the ECF in their own building.

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:30 pm EST

To me putting men in front is a offensive hockey 101 yet somehow this team doesn't seem to either want to or agree with that concept. I really don't understand.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:28 pm EST

Somebody, anybody, get effin pissed and show some god damn motion in tead of aping that gum chewing douche behind the bench

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:27 pm EST

Every shot taken at Jackoff there is no one in front. He gets the luxury of seeing every shot.

jratelle19


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:27 pm EST

Nyr coaches clueless on line and player changes .. 2 guys caught deep and they change a d man ... 5-4 ....Pure genius

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:27 pm EST

It's only 1 but I don't think they can score 2. Popgun perimeter offense again. No balls. This team blows!

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:27 pm EST

NN: Remember when Yandle got 2nd PP unit duties and Boyle 1st? We all knew it was wrong but the coach took 2/3s of the year to figure that out.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:27 pm EST

Not an excuse but the Penguimns get away with alot of shit....Why I want Crosby or Malkin crippled

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:26 pm EST

Would Yandle be that much worse than Boyle on the PK; AV won't ever use Yandle to PK.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:26 pm EST

First shot in 5 minutes and guess where it comes from? The boards 30 feet out. More perimeter shots making Jackoff look like an all star statistically. SIGH

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:26 pm EST

True...Let down after goal....No surprise....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:26 pm EST

yeah baby...keep it on the petrimiter Rangers!!

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:26 pm EST

LOLOL...Rangers working the boards in the Pitt end and NO ONE IS IN FRONT. Ridiculous.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:24 pm EST

And it's so clear this team is fragile mentally - now back on their heels after that goal. Just no push. No ummph.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:24 pm EST

It's only one....have to believe we will eventually get a PP and we need to score. Can't let up the next one.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:24 pm EST

Guess refs only see nyr penalties

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:24 pm EST

sog 17+8 penguins..

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:24 pm EST

Boyle was going off the ice and Staal was coming on.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:23 pm EST

Yup....Caution to the wind....Can't go down 2-0.

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:23 pm EST

Hospo- yes....that was stall coming on for that idiot Boyle

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:23 pm EST

The Penguins teamwork and chemistry is just so much better than the Rangers...Great team building AV!!

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:22 pm EST

2 nothing and game over, given the pop gun offense of this team. Again.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:22 pm EST

OK, efff the hesitancy..all out or go ho,mre

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:22 pm EST

And benching Zuke won't hurt the offense - he's doing nothing anyways.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:22 pm EST

I guess that's what they brought in Eric Staall for. This team sucks!

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:21 pm EST

Hospo we are not 26th on the PK by accident, we earned that distinction...so of course we take more penalties than our opposition on a regular basis

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:21 pm EST

Go for shortie give up a ppg

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:21 pm EST

for Boyle

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:21 pm EST

Nash BTW, sucks. Get rid of him this off season even if you gotta eat some salary.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:20 pm EST

yep on ZUCC...M. Staal mighgt ha ve beeen coming on the ice on a horrendous change..

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:20 pm EST

sh*t...

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:20 pm EST

What the f is Dan Boyle doing in front of the god damn penguins net on a penguin power play.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:20 pm EST

Baaaaawwwwaaawww Bawwwwwaaawwaa We just SUCK

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:20 pm EST

Thanks Zucc you jackass....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:20 pm EST

BOTH STALL brothers caught up ice on a penalty kill..You can't let that happen

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:19 pm EST

Zuke should not see the ice for the rest of the period. Lazy ass stupid penalty and it cost the Rangers.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:19 pm EST

Those damn Pizza's are really doing a number on Kessel........

mf


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:19 pm EST

We really are bad....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:17 pm EST

C'mon Nick, that really hasn't been the case today...MZA takes alot of idiot penaltyies

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:17 pm EST

Damn....Can't do this....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:17 pm EST

Dick rash chokes and can't wait to get off after less than a minute on the ice...wtf

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:16 pm EST

Nash lloks like a 4th liner on the breakaway......This guy drives me crazy....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:16 pm EST

Dick rash chokes and can't wait to get off after less than a minute on the ice...wtf

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:16 pm EST

"Hits" means you never have the puck.

Nick


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:15 pm EST

Two breakaways shot right at the goalie. How did Nash ever score 40? Klein is a better finisher than he is.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:14 pm EST

c'mon..two damn breakaways stuffed????

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:13 pm EST

PJ - i'm with you on the passion being ther......what isn't, like always, chemistry amingst the forward lines...It looks like early in the season for them...quite the opposiye for the Penguin lines

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:07 pm EST

I dont see any passion, unless you mean Hank and Zuuc...Klein a bit..everyone else is just going through the motions. I really am startnig to dislike this team. Hayes is young, but damn he's annoying.

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:06 pm EST

This team should not have such a difficult time scoring goals its just unbelievable. They make every opposing teams goalie look like a vezina candidate.

KIS


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:03 pm EST

Passion is there....Just afraid of giving up that first goal....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:02 pm EST

Well they tried to give up a late goal...Dumbass Hayes and what was Kreider doing on that late turnover....Like the physical play from the Rangers....

PJ


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:01 pm EST

Rangers are intent on playing their system and controlling the neutral zone....and that's OK....but there's no REASON not to play with PASSION...you can do both things....play the system and play it with passion. Kreider is trying to lead, Zucc fights back....we need more of that....not stupid stoner shit from Hayes.

JFC31


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:00 pm EST

No, it wasn't really a good period, we didn't score, only came close once. This is a young defense with a third string goalie.

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 3:00 pm EST

Hits 22-4 rangers. Wow

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:58 pm EST

sneaky dirty that is

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:57 pm EST

Damn HORNQVIST remidns me of sneak sirty Tomas Sandstrom around the net...We just need sonebody like Dave Brown to take the fucker's head off...and cripple Crosby while he's at it.

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:56 pm EST

ZUCCARELLO our smallest player with the biggest balls

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:55 pm EST

Not a bad period. Need to crash the net.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:53 pm EST

Rangers getting mugged there and no calls

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:52 pm EST

Reverse jinx- no last minute goals against

tlats


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:52 pm EST

Big kill. Don't give up a late goal now.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:49 pm EST

Hayes is a irresponsible Ahole

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:49 pm EST

Now you HIT somebody Hayes.--in the back??.you stupid shit!

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:49 pm EST

Thank you Kevin, we needed that, glad you dressed for the occasion

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:48 pm EST

Effin Hayes. Stupid lazy penalty

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:48 pm EST

No offense again. Anyone see Klein skating down ice with a Pittsburgh enema, not one Ranger in site to pass to?

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:47 pm EST

"Even the president needs passion Everybody I know needs some passion Some people die and kill for passion Nobody admits they need passion Some people are scared of passion Yeah passion"

JFC31


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:47 pm EST

Need a dirty goal. Good to see Kreider hitting everything

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:44 pm EST

RDW - Other then taking the body, they look a little tight and hesitant...Don't want to make the mistake and give up the first goal

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:43 pm EST

We have next to no offensive flow. Not sure if we're just that inept or Pitt D is doing that good of a job

RDW


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:43 pm EST

Maybe it's just me but Nash, zucc and brassard have been non existent again.

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:40 pm EST

So sick of those shot-passes by our D that constantly miss....get the damn puck on net!!

JFC31


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:40 pm EST

Amazing how Pens put 2 or 3 players in front of our net.We need to do the same

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:39 pm EST

Let's Go -- that was in the neutral zone....we need to poach one in the O zone....their D is throwing it blindly across the very high slot

JFC31


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:38 pm EST

Rangers are taking the body well but they just don't like to crash the net..It's like they don't want to hurt th goalie..Fuck that..Ram the bastard

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:37 pm EST

Stepan did poach one of those passes...couldn't finish.

LetsGoRangers


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:36 pm EST

Pens putting 2-3 guys in front of the net. We need to crash the net. Every playoffs the same damn thing. And glad Nash shot that 10 feet wide with no pressure on him. JFC

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:34 pm EST

Pens are breaking out with a pass by the d-man across the high slot...onto fine Rangers forwards need to poach one of those passes.

JFC31


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:31 pm EST

DOUBLEN - Kinda remember that...Let's hope the Rangers don't do that to you!!....The effort is there so far...gotta run that damn goalie

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:29 pm EST

Kunitz is a piece of shit

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:28 pm EST

HOSPO: You hate Penguin fans..in case you don't know what I do for a living..I am a media buyer at one of the largest agencies in NY and I buy the market of Pittsburgh and spend plenty of money in Penguins hockey on behalf of my clients. Rangers lose this series (which I personally think they will) I will be hearing it from the sales people in Pittsburgh. Only good thing with the Penguins, their television ratings which are one of the highest in the league.

DOUBLEN


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:26 pm EST

They better be hacking away as much as they can at Malkensteins wrist

Fotiu22


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:18 pm EST

I HATE Penguin fans! Whatever happened to TIKANEN????

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:17 pm EST

RangerLou - I hope Stromboli is the key because I just had my wife's world class homemade stromboli for lunch..Ziti and bracciole didn't work on Wednesday..

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 2:01 pm EST

stevielegs............ Bawawawawwawa Bawawawwawawawwawaw Bawawawwawawwawawawawwawawawawwawawawawwa

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 1:57 pm EST

I hate afternoon games...thought I would share that..

WIOSA


Sat Apr 16 2016 1:49 pm EST

Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello Miller-Brassard-Nash EStaal-Hayes-Fast Glass-Moore-Stalberg MStaal-Klein Yandle-McIlrath Skjei-Boyle......... #NYR will have two rookie d-men (McIlrath/Skjei) in playoff lineup for first time since G5 vs. Caps on 4/23/11 (McDonagh/Sauer)

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 1:47 pm EST

Zatkoff in goal again, Fleury out.Malkin is playing for Penguins

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 1:45 pm EST

rlou no accidents today...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 1:18 pm EST

Game 1: I thought NASH had a very good game... I thought the NYRs got so focused on throwing pucks on net that they lost their focus... most all their shots were harmless... My biggest concern was the NYR forwards were playing on the perimeter again and the NYR defense were turning the puck over all game with weak shots on net that were easily blocked by Pitt... Need to cleanup their game and take advantage of the Pitt defensive weaknesses

schneidw


Sat Apr 16 2016 12:55 pm EST

Play Hank surreptitiously, but give him Skapski’s jersey. Maybe someone will clear the crease for him in panic.

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 12:46 pm EST

Our first NY RANGERS victory Stromboli.LGR!!!!!!!!! http://t37i.imgup.net/RangerlouM8909.jpg

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 12:36 pm EST

Per the Penguins' Web site roster, Evgeni Malkin is no longer listed as being on injured reserve.

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 11:54 am EST

‎@AGrossRecord At Consol Energy Center, Pens coach Mike Sullivan to withhold truth...err, address media at 1 and Vigneault to follow around 1:10.

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 11:25 am EST

RF4L I respect you along with a few others on the wall vice been in here since 97 ish when we had to dial up. There was a lot of funny stuff on the wall back then. DESPO, SALTY DOG, etc. I've had the pleasure of meeting MELVILLE FRED at the garden. Also Jim S, both great guys. I've had season tickets a long time and I may not know as much as some of you guy but I do know the STAAL went for the puck on the first goal instead of tying up the man in front. I'm pretty sure that he fell down on the 2nd goal. It's over and I hope MciLrath is in for Girardi today. I'm looking forward to a win today & the next 3 out of 4 are at the garden!

Pal17


Sat Apr 16 2016 10:38 am EST

Coach Alain Vigneault, despite being pressed, did not seem to commit to playing Dylan McIlrath despite Dan Girardi being ruled out for Saturday afternoon’s Game 2 with an undisclosed injury. “Dylan has been with us the whole year,” Vigneault said. “If we need him to play I am sure that he will play well.” Vigneault was then asked as to whether that means a potential call-up would play instead of McIlrath. “I am saying that if we have six healthy D, we are looking at the possibility of bringing someone up so that we have seven in case someone gets up with a little boo-boo,” Vigneault said.....wtf is wrong with this guy? a little boo-boo? he plays guys with injuries ...a real winner....

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 10:28 am EST

Im taking three ADVILS and a power nap ( about an hour). Then baking my NY Rangers Victory Strombolies.Thats all i have to say!!!!!!!!!

rangerlou


Sat Apr 16 2016 10:23 am EST

TD I don't believe Hayes regressed his point output didn't drop that big if you take away that one hot streak Hayes had last year and you have the same production and player as last year only a little lazier defensively. I think the kid is just a head case he doesn't get it and doesn't seem to care what is said.

York18


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:59 am EST

‎@AGrossRecord No Hartford (AHL) d-man call-up listed for Rangers on game notes (and nothing on AHL web site), which would mean McIlrath in for Girardi.

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:53 am EST

RF4L - The cup will be ours!

tdchi


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:40 am EST

Re: HAYES - the guy is immensely talented and I'd be hesitant to part with him quite yet. But the ship is leaving port. The Rangers needed big things out of him, KREIDER and MILLER...the other two at least showed signs of big things...Hayes regressed. The guy needs to realize he's a monster out there and start playing the game with edge. He reminds me a bit of Nik ANTROPOV at this point...lots of talent, lots of size, but just no ability to put it all together. I understand and even agree with the idea of benching him in favor of LINDBERG...but also understand why AV won't do this. Just like with GIRARDI, he'd pulling for the guy to bring his game together. But at some point, you just have to turn to him and say sorry bud...it ain't happenin'...re: McILRATH - again understand why he'd consider DIAZ...don't agree with it and ultimately I bet he keeps Mack in. We'll see.

tdchi


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:39 am EST

TD: LOLOL...Krapa behind the bench with Ulanob!!

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:33 am EST

Hospo: Re talking about roster moves while we're in the POs: I understand and get your dislike. I do it because it's more like a catharsis for me - dealing with feeling of dread that I've been experiencing on and off all season. I am trying to think ahead of some good and exciting times. Also, as surprising as this may seem to some coming from me, I do believe there's enough on this roster that a retooling job could be successfully launched, meaning bottoming out doesn't have to happen. It will take some strong GMing however. Is Gorton up to the task?

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:29 am EST

Did I just read we need Dave Krapa back?!? I think I need a beer.

tdchi


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:28 am EST

Good for LB with his rebuking of AV's handling of McI, expressing many of our sentiments on here about the topic. I 100% agree on the latest stupidity from AV yesterday, being all cryptic about whether McI plays, slipping into the mix Diaz's name. WTF is that all about anyways, if not simply another example of the argument that coach doesn't care for the kid. The more we see this the more I believe it and I strongly suspect it may be more than a case of a coach not liking a certain player. I think that's the way it started (at the end of training camp) but over time has evolved, I suspect, into a publicly unspoken difference of opinion between the head coach and his general manager. I hope that's the case because it'll give more weight to a decision Gorton must seriously contemplate this summer if the Rangers get bounced by Pittsburgh: Whether or not to fire the coach. I say all this because if this quiet quarrel doesn't exist, why on earth would the coach elect to mess with a kid's head like that? Is this how he thinks McI needs to be motivated? I would understand if McI was a malcontent and had sulked and pouted over his unending and undeserved (when you consider how Boyle and Girardi have played in so many games) pressboxing. But that doesn't seem to be the case at all. McI seems to be the opposite - a good soldier who believes in the organization and does what he's told without protest regardless of how unfair the treatment and decisions appear to be. Then again, we are talking about AV and for sure this season has exposed his sometimes inexplicable and counter productive roster decisions that include who dresses and who doesn't, who plays with who and who gets icetime during games.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:22 am EST

RF4L - What Carp is saying is what most here have been saying for awhile...A team wide metamorphis is needed...we just don't have a Kafka behind the bench! miore like Krapka

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:19 am EST

I HATE talking about next year during the POs ......but...maybe i'm the only one....but I keep MCD...our best D-man and desperately needed with YANDLE gone.....Defense first....Plenty of other moves to be made...That's for after we are eliminated..

Hospo


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:12 am EST

BTW, I cannot believe that AV would actually start Diaz over McI. I'm not even sure if Diaz was recalled. However, if McI is in the pressbox today over Diaz, AV should be fired on the spot.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:09 am EST

Carp says it perfectly IMO in his latest column - quite simple and almost houseleague hockey like but absolutely bang-on: The Rangers to be successful against Pittsburgh must 'do pretty much everything harder, faster and better.' Yep. Can they? Of course - it's very basic and therefore, very simple. Will they? Not so simple....the clock's ticking boys, on many of you and hopefully, the coach.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 9:05 am EST

Interesting to see more wallsters warming to the concept of possibly making McD available. I started musing about that in the fall when the rumours picked up that Ryan Johansen was available. That thought wasn't meant with a lot of positivity at the time but I recall stevie agreeing, I think. FTR, I'm not down on McD and never was - I just think he's not quite as good as some think he is, he's not the best C (and it's too controversal to remove the C from him) and he's arguably the organization's best trade asset. That said, he certainly won't be easy to replace and moving him isn't something you do if you're cup bound. He could be part of a strong retooling effort that would also include remodeling the top 6. All premature at this point I do agree - maybe, just maybe, the team's fortunes start to alter this afternoon. Lord knows if they don't, they will have dug themselves a HUGE hole.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 8:58 am EST

Pal: IMO, what you're asking of Staal with regards to Girardi's lousy play isn't fair. Staal plays the game in a particular way and asking him to adjust to that extent because of his partner's inabilities is too much. This is another example of AV's poor roster decisions. That's who should have recognized the decline and reacted IMO.

RF4L


Sat Apr 16 2016 8:19 am EST

Any advantage we had when AV applied a more offensive style of play is gone along with a goon on every team. The league is now faster and younger and more competitive. The Rangers have looked the most lethargic of all the others that I have watched this post season. They are the least physical and are predictable. An honest assessment would lead one to believe that the issue is not the confidence AV has in Maclrath but the confidence the team and fan base have in AV. Unless there is a miraculous turnaround, the coach needs to go and that must be in the mind set of the brass.

gene_carr


Sat Apr 16 2016 8:13 am EST

YORK: SKJEI will be taking YANDLE's spot in the lineup next year.

Vic


Sat Apr 16 2016 8:13 am EST

ANDREI: I agree with you on HAYES but his fate here is sealed. He is the anti-christ to some folks here. It doesn't matter how well he plays or how many scoring chances he creates. If the wingers and D don't score on those chances then HAYES sucks and isn't producing. That is the game we are playing here. So I am letting it go. It doesn't matter what folks here think anyway. And if I could throw him into a deal to get DRAISAITL or even MATTHEWS I would do it in a NY Second. HAYES will always be an incomplete player. If I can use him and other assets to get a legit #1 Center I wouldn't hesitate.

Vic


Sat Apr 16 2016 7:10 am EST

Great article in today's NY Post about Girardi. Very well written and respectful description of what's going on. This is exactly what I have been saying all season. He deserves more then immature responses like 'He Sucks' or 'I Hate Him'. I still blame the coach for not recognizing his decline and playing him all season long. Sitting MciLrath instead of alternating him in the lineup by scratching Boyle or Girardi and playing Kline with a broken hand. The kid should have had more ice time and Boyle and Girardi should have had less. I still believe Staal should have been aware of the way Girardi has been struggling and picked up the man in front (1st goal) instead of reaching for the puck. Girardi shouldn't have stopped skating in a playoff game arguing a non icing call (unforgivable mental mistake proving something is really wrong with this guy) Staal also should have seen the weak Girardi shot coming (2nd goal) with Crosby ready to break out. Staal could have been a step behind the blue line in the middle of the ice instead he was by the left boards leaving the entire center ice open. Both goals start with Girardi (5.5 million) bad decisions but it's past that now. He's really struggling so how about a little help from his (5.7 million) partner?

Pal17


Sat Apr 16 2016 7:03 am EST

"Whether they sub in rookie Dylan McIlrath, or recall defenseman Raphael Diaz from Hartford, for injured Dan Girardi, it will hardly matter if the Rangers’ top players, particularly those on their top two lines, don’t commit to A) much more effort and skating, B) making smart decisions with the puck, C) do pretty much everything harder, faster and better. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/15/rangers-need-more-than-lundqvist-in-game-2/#sthash.4hz8TP4v.dpuf

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 6:46 am EST

“I feel ready,” McIlrath said. “I’m hungry. I’m very excited.”“I think I’ve learned a lot,” McIlrath said. “It’s been a great year to take everything in and develop. The last stretch of games I really feel comfortable playing a lot of minutes. Then coming into playoffs, I’m just hungry to help the team win.”

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 6:03 am EST

York I don't think the word is like instead it probably is his depth chart and confidence or lack thereof in Big Mac ... Among many concepts and perceptions of the player that he decides his value. Coaches are far from infallible so they look to blame players because they don't do what's in the coaches mind set of what they expect players to do. The nyr need a shrink.... A manager or a coach need to be one but most are not really good at it... Alias sigmund fraud .... Not a typo ... Freud was a Coke head ... And made a mess for many people...past present and future...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:47 am EST

York e staal and Nash are not who they use to be but neither are washed up.takkerella didn't like gaborik because he wouldn't block shots. When coaches insist on the wrong roles and line mates for guys in offense it's like asking them to be ad man or a winger to be a center. It doesn't really work. Remember msl volunteering to play center last season?

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:40 am EST

Rangerlou and Forrest Gump ...

stevielegs


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:17 am EST

If there was any question that AV doesn't like Wrath I think it's been answered this week. With that said, if there is any question that Gorton doesn't seem to care that was already obviously answered because he obviously won't trade him. That tells me there is a good chance Wrath will be here longer than AV will and Gorton is not trading what he deems to be a top 6 Dman. I see Wrath stepping in for Boyle next year, both he and Skeij have stepped in and shown they are NHL ready. I wonder where and how Skeij fits in next season the left side is crowded. I'd hate to lose Klein, which leaves one of Staal, McD. I would go the OLA route and move McD and get back the biggest return and let his game be replaced by committee. Skeij offensively and Staal defensively.

York18


Sat Apr 16 2016 5:08 am EST

E and that would be all well in good if he was brought in to be a third line checking player, but he wasn't. He was brought in to be a goal scorer, a goal scorer that was supposed to help carry this team. The problem is he has decided to reinvent himself after coming here and now wants to be a third line checking player, okay great you found yourself a second wind of a cateer, but that salary is just horrible and he should be offering back about 3-4 mil of it. If you want to throw salary to the wind that's fine, he has still let this team and the fans down because he wasn't brought here to a selke winner, but rather a rocket richard winner huge difference. I would also like to point out for all your praise about how complete and great he has become at being a defensive player it somehow slipped the rest of the leagues attention because he has never been even up for a selke and you can't give the star excuse because plenty of high scoring stars have been up for selkes like Federov, Yzerman, Francis etc. With that said yes, he has become a way more complete player compared to his Columbus days, but he's not a defensive specialist and he wasn't brought here to be one.

York18


Fri Apr 15 2016 11:20 pm EST

I hate when arguments about Nash go sideways and suddenly it begins to degrade into this addition by subtraction argument. Nash is the teams best all around forward. And salary blah blah blah... I get it. He is poor bang for the buck in terms of production. But he is such a damn good hockey player how the lack of goal scoring obfuscates that I'll never know. I thoroughly enjoy watching him play. Never gets boring. Text book mechanics and positional hockey. The number of times he uses his speed to track someone down on the back check and use his reach to pick it loose? That's one thing but he regains the puck. That's just so hard to do.

E


Fri Apr 15 2016 10:50 pm EST

MelvilleFred, i don't know, dude. I see chemistry on that line. But then again. What ever works :-)

andrei


Fri Apr 15 2016 10:40 pm EST

andrei....I completely agree with York. Lindberg should be playing Period with E. Stall at C right now. Hayes in the Press Box. Well we need the split so tomorrow will be make or break as far as staying in this Series.

MelvilleFred


Fri Apr 15 2016 10:25 pm EST

I love my NYR with my heart, body and soul but.....http://nypost.com/2016/04/14/are-rangers-going-to-let-this-glorious-era-end-with-a-whimper/ They don't have what it takes anymore....It starts with our coach

rngrsans


Fri Apr 15 2016 9:43 pm EST

If I was Ken Hitchcock I would have thrown everything I could find onto the ice. The Blues just got completely bent over by the NHL.

Shaggy


Fri Apr 15 2016 8:15 pm EST

It'll be more fun if we go down 0-3 before the epic comeback.

hipcheck


Fri Apr 15 2016 7:29 pm EST

BROOKS had it right with the first line about AV stepping aside but alas..The other thing he has right is not to be finger pointing at individual players .Yeah , there are some that can be ripped but this is a team-wide problem...a team-wide attiude adjutment that is needed and a team wide balls to the wall mind set that must be born....ore forced by the so-called leaders and coach...We'll see..

Hospo


Fri Apr 15 2016 6:32 pm EST

moof read all about....http://nypost.com/2016/04/14/are-rangers-going-to-let-this-glorious-era-end-with-a-whimper/

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 5:55 pm EST

Hayes is a Pot Head!!!!

rangerlou


Fri Apr 15 2016 5:42 pm EST

York I've heard dummy Hayes is a loose cannon boarding on postal crazy. Whatever that means, but he sure doesn't show it on the ice. He talks like a stoner .....Moof guess you believe 100% of what you read....weknow will play girardi if girardi says he can go...at some point there needs to be a doctor really giving any player a green light....not the coach or his underlings like ramrod....look what they did last season on d instead of replacing guys with serious injuries...not very bright.....probably cost them a trip to the finals and maybe the parade....this coach just thinks it's a kick at the can.....if fishboy told him it's the cup or or job, he'd be talking and acting differently...keenan made it his goal without being told, and was so hell bent that he was willing to take no prisoners....kill or be killed.....welcome to the hockey war....guys should be going thru the boards, not running off the ice....hello dick rash.....go watch tapes of messier in 1994, and the rest of them....the whole team and coaches with management should be forced to watch it, and the parade...all together ..maybe they would try a lot harder....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 5:33 pm EST

Kudos to Yandle: “He’s a big body who plays a physical game and opens up the ice for me,” said No. 93, """who shares a ride to the practice rink every day with McIlrath.""" “He puts some fear into the opposition.” ...........

mf


Fri Apr 15 2016 5:26 pm EST

Stevie, your slip is showing: http://nypost.com/2016/04/15/rangers-rule-out-struggling-girardi-and-mcilrath-lobbies-for-spot/

mf


Fri Apr 15 2016 5:10 pm EST

Hospo: Shouldn't that come from AV in the form of, "kid, I want 120% out of you every shift!" ?

mf


Fri Apr 15 2016 4:53 pm EST

Hayes with shite happens LMAO this kid really is stupid, not just on the ice but off it as well. I really don't like this kids attitude, he gets called out by the coach and his answer was he's playing great LMAO I just think this kid doesn't get it. It's not cavalier it's stupidity

York18


Fri Apr 15 2016 4:50 pm EST

ANDREI, 1) Miller was never labeled Lazy ever, that kid always played with heart it was his head that needed to join the heart. You talk about Nash as a must go, the only reason he's a must go is his salary, he produces better in the regular season than Hayes. The book will never be closed on Hayes he's an NHL player in that there is no doubt, what kind of player he is is the real question. You keep ignoring the fact that outside of one hot streak last year his numbers are on pace for the same output this year, why is it you can't seem to understand that part? It has nothing to do with year two, he disappeared before the playoffs last year in case you forgot, he just looked better than he is because he had a streak where he was red hot and looked better than his numbers suggest, much like how Lindberg started the season. As for the talent, he's an NHL player, he has great passing when he isn't hogging the puck, he's a 12-18 goal a year player, there is nothing wrong with that, but there are a ton of guys like that in the league. Talent is worthless without the heart and head to go with it, look at a guy like Daigle that kid had talent but was more interested in partying and dating movie stars. You say he is blocking no one? I beg to differ he's blocking Lindberg who scored 8 points less despite less ice time and playing 11 games less. Lindberg is more complete plays both ends of the ice, uses his body, and can win faceoffs. I could easily say he's blocking Lindberg who is more suited to play third line center than Hayes. I think Hayes needs to go because what you see is what you get, I see no difference between this year and last year other than 7 weeks of hot play. I think Hayes should be used to bring in something this team does need. You don't trade him just to move him out like he's cattle, you trade him to make the team better and you do it while the air of mystery about this kid is still there and he has worth, because sooner than later his value will drop and he will just be an add on in a deal to bring in a player.

York18


Fri Apr 15 2016 4:41 pm EST

STEVIE - Exactly why I hate Hayes despite his talent..."SHit Happens" is about as cavalier as you can get for a "kid" to say aboutthe NHL POs..And the bozo is always confident no matter how bad he plays..Damn, the Rangers need a vet to smack him silly and set him straight..But, there's nobody

Hospo


Fri Apr 15 2016 4:17 pm EST

duguay should go clothes shopping with hank......http://www.blueshirtsunited.com/video/lundqvist-return-rangers-practice?cmpid=nyr-soc-tw

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 4:11 pm EST

Antti Raanta was asked today what he was thinking when called upon to go in for the last 2 periods of Game 1: "Don't screw up."....Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 47m47 minutes ago Like this quote, too, from Kevin Hayes:"It’s a 7-game series. You want to win them all but sh-%*$-t happens. I think we’re pretty confident"....‎@rangersreport Lundqvist speaking at podium in PIT ....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:58 pm EST

step i think this coach will be gone before Big Mac is. the kid needs to learn, but the treatment has been a little overboard, especially considering girardi needed more time, Boyle needed more rest, and it couldn't hurt Klein either to sit a game. ... let the coach analeyes and rectalfy all he wants....but he better kick this can to the parade.....in June 2016....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:55 pm EST

York18, it's a pointless discussion. Let's agree to disagree. You can take another 25 AHL's who had ever scored a goal in NHL and use them an example. Rookies in the 2nd year, in majority, hit the wall and their performance suffers. Some start think that you don't need to work as hard and you can be a star based on talent alone. If you can't see the talent in Kevin Hayes, i can't help that. Did he had a bad or average year. Hell, yes. Does he needs to get his head out his ass, yes. Maybe that's what he is, maybe not. I'm not a talent evaluator. Nor do i claim to be one. I know the game, because I played the game for about 10 years. At some point i was even invited to be part of the USSR junior team back in a day. I only based my opinion on what i see. I see that kid is talented. No reason to "get read of him". Maybe he will never be more then a 3rd line center, maybe not. Future will tell. But you can't "write" a kid off based on his second year. if we had a pipe line of prospects coming up, like Coyotes or jets have and he was really blocking someone to be in the line up, i could understand the rational. There is no one in the our farm today that he is blocking. No one...

andrei


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:47 pm EST

Aside from 1 bad game this year can anyone recall anything Mac has done to deserve this crap treatment from our coach ? It's almost as if he knows just about the whole fan base is clamoring for him along with some beat writers and hes afraid Mac will shine and make him look like the complete stubborn can do no wrong douche that he is.

stepunmytoe


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:43 pm EST

rf73 and analeyes? ...

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:40 pm EST

rf73 rectalfy? is that a combo word or a leo gorcey?.... all connected to the pompous ass....have to score at least 1 more each game than the pigpens ....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:40 pm EST

Hospo, i'm 100% with you. If we can get a top notch forward and he is part of the deal, of course you do that. My point is that Hayes should never be on the same list as must be gone players as Girardi and Nash. They need to be gone this off-season. Hayes might were well turn out to be next year JT Miller. Last year Miller was also labeled lazy, lost, etc. It's all about learning what it takes to be a pro. Some do, and some never do... Book is not closed on Hayes just yet..

andrei


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:32 pm EST

ANDREI OMG He had two plays, I remember Bill Berg having a couple huge goals did that make him special, I can name you tons of guys who had one or two great looking goals doesn't make them special Malik was someone I pointed out remember that goal? Now you're going to blame his bad year on it being his second year? Let's really examine this since you don't seem to want to admit things. He had a bad year because it was his second year, but how different was it from year one? He had three less goals, and 6 less assists it really wasn't that different. You're talking about 9 points take away that one stretch last year where he had that streak where he netted 13 points and you have the same production. You actually have exactly the same output without his two month hot streak where he looked better than he really was. Lindberg played 11 less games and there was only an 8 point difference between them points wise I don't hear you crying about Lindberg being benched or that he's even equal to Hayes, why is that? Hayes outside of one hot streak played exactly the same way last year but you don't want to seem to admit that even though it's a fact. I remember Darren McCarthy of Det having two huge highlite reel goals during the wings cup run would you call him a goal scorer?

York18


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:24 pm EST

MF - Converserly, they play like they did in the 2nd and 3rd, and they are out in 5 at the most..The entire TEAM has to put their Big Pants on and win IN SPITE of AV

Hospo


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:24 pm EST

RF73: No disagreement there.. The 1st goal was sloppy play by Hank fumbling a rebound off the back boards, the 2nd was them capitalizing on a mistake.... Hey, its a game of mistakes and capitalizing sometimes, unfortunately the tide turned on us, law of average... I think we will dial it up in regards to team focus on limiting mistakes and if its one thing this years Rangers have done, its capitalized on the mistakes of the opponent while we've been outplayed during the games... We will see

mf


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:20 pm EST

mf - two points...1. You still gotta put the puck in the net when you put that kind of pressure on...2. They can't keep giving up those last minute goals...They are killers...too many times this year they have done that and had to play catch up and more times than not fell short.

RF73


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:12 pm EST

The thing is, we play remotely on par the rest of the way with the effort the Rangers put out in the first period, I can't see Pittsburg winning....

mf


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:08 pm EST

stevie - "considering recalling a veteran from Hartford (AHL) is a possibility for a callup."...So let's see, we have a guy on the roster vs. a guy who hasn't been able to crack the roster all season long...oh, what a tough decision, which way do I go George, which way do I go...I really feel for Mac...how much more insulting can this guy be to him?....He is nothing but a pompous ass.

RF73


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:01 pm EST

All of a sudden he’s reacting… What the hell was he seeing/thinking the last few weeks of the season?...He’s had all season to analize the situation and rectalfy the situation…But no, by waiting until now, all he is trying to do is protect his phoney baloney job…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmfwklFM-M

RF73


Fri Apr 15 2016 3:00 pm EST

ANDREI - of course HAYES has the physical gifts, there's at least one time (sometimes twice!) each game he does something (usually a pass) spectacular that few would attempt..OTOH, there's at least a full handful of times each game.he lazes around, is selfish with the puck and just loses focus...Some of that is inexpereinces and will go away, some of it is just who he is..Tough one to judge I guess...But,.If I was the GM,I wouldn't give him away but I'd trade his ass in a NY second for a less talented young NHL winger but one who plays hard and straight all the time..

Hospo


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:52 pm EST

York18, i'm not going to take a leap and call Kevin Haise a future superstar. But seriously, let's not make him a scrub and a boarder-line AHLer either. How many players can pull this off. He might be 6.5 and might not be a hit monster like Big Mac, but he knows how to use his size. Was he good this year, no. Not many 2nd year rookies are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AMQ1gB_EBo http://video.rangers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=648716 http://www.si.com/nhl/2015/03/10/kevin-hayes-goal-video-rangers-islanders-nassau-coliseum http://www.blueshirtsunited.com/video/hayes-highlight-reel-goal-big-game-rangers-win

andrei


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:52 pm EST

"Girardi’s absence leaves rookie Dylan McIlrath, a right-hander like Girardi, poised to make his NHL playoff debut but Vigneault also said the Rangers were considering recalling a veteran from Hartford (AHL) in order to have seven healthy defensemen on the roster. Veteran Raphael Diaz, also a right-hander, is a possibility for a callup."

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:51 pm EST

‎@AGrossRecord Ranger Rants: AV challenges his "top players," doesn't commit to McIlrath for Girari, Hank a game-time decision http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/rangerrants/ …

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:40 pm EST

rf4l it's rectify or rectum....those are his 2 choices ....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:38 pm EST

NYStranger: I hear ya on AV but I won't officially be tooting that horn until/unless the Rangers get bounced. It's only 1 game into series 1 so from that perspective there's easily time to rectify things and win the series. I do think it needs to start tomorrow, however. Another game like Wednesdays (specifically, too many passengers) and IMO, they are done like yesterday's dinner. I am glad AV is calling out his top 2 lines - he's right, they need to do better and not just for one period, either. Now he needs to follow through and bench anyone not putting in the expected effort. If there's coasting and he doesn't respond, then it's meaningless and in the end, will contribute significantly to the team's downfall. There's still time here, but without a doubt, the clock is ticking.

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:24 pm EST

From the NY Post - Lundqvist IN - Girardi OUT

jnyr


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:22 pm EST

If AV will change the line-up by only one player, it's got to be McIlrath for Girardi.. I'm actually anxious & optimistic to see this. SKJEI is playing with great poise, and what an opportunity to see a homegrown display such potential to earning a full time spot on this roster.... Big Mac is a better skater, stronger, nastier than Girardi at this point, and has the Howitzer of a shot to boot...........

mf


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:22 pm EST

they rushed girardi back with a cracked knee cap, and now something with his neck or head, hence whole body...and mind....waving to the ref like a kid on a merry go round ....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:20 pm EST

Hospo possible but unlikely, or Diaz would be at practice today....he's not there so he's not playing tomorrow until weknow does a Tanya Harding on Big Mac later today....or in the AM....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:17 pm EST

BOB/York18 - Could be both..When you're physically hurting, you also tend to lose your mental focus..And that's what happened to Girardi (and has during the season).Being beat physically is one thing..not having the mental edge you once did really piles it on..

Hospo


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:14 pm EST

How many goals did the greatly-praised Staal-Hayes-Fast line score on Wednesday.?I agree Fast used the body well and even Hayes was physicaqlly engaged but style means nothing and it's Funny how only Step's line and brass;'s line needs to produce more......Hate to say it, but i can actually see AV skating Diaz tomorrow...

Hospo


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:12 pm EST

I, for one am fine with them allowing Girardi to be out "injured" and to save face. Guy has been a warrior for the Rangers for years. Of course, as YORK says they also have to try to preserve his value, whatever is left of it in case they want to trade him. abet that Gorton cannot get to an expansion draft quickly enough.

Bob


Fri Apr 15 2016 2:07 pm EST

For AV to not say even upper or lower body says to me G isn't hurt, the whole thing? That's the team trying to save face and keep what;s left of his value. Wrath is hungry which means he will probably eat a Pen for lunch tomorrow. I can't wait to see Crosby get hit by him LOL

York18


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:52 pm EST

more weknow....he played brass, zucc , and nash a lot this season, but not tomorrow the most important game of the year after the last one ...so far....then he blames the players..Chris Kreider-Derek Stepan-Mats Zuccarello..J.T. Miller-Derick Brassard-Rick Nash Eric Staal-Kevin Hayes-Jesper Fast Tanner Glass-Dominic Moore-Viktor Stalberg Marc Staal-Kevin Klein Keith Yandle-Dylan McIlrath Brady Skjei-Dan Boyle

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:49 pm EST

RF we were saying the same things about Tom Renney not that long ago. IMO it is time to make the change. Nothing positive can come of starting another season under AV. Except confirming what we already know plus waste another half season or more doing so. But this year is not over yet, so let's see what happens. Doubt it will change many minds.

NYStranger


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:47 pm EST

Hospo this coach is known for playing guys hurt, and rushing them back. He probably confronts them and says can you walk? Then you can play. ...Girardi had no business playing hurt in game 1, and he helped cost them the game along with his coach and ramrod....3 stooges....i throw hank in there, but i didn't see him insisting on staying in for the last 48 seconds, and even if he did he should have been told go to the locker-room . But no weknow and ramalamalamadingdong, gave him eyes drops....man up....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:36 pm EST

Was Girardi hurting even before Game 1 and that smug douche behind the bench still played him? Very likely...I tell ya, watching the other games so far ..the lack of effort/intensity and chemistry displayed by the Rangers is startling compared to all teams (except the WILD)----That lies on the coach for not beilg able to get or motivate the effort/intensity from the TEAM and not being able to come up something more than a half-assed set of lines since the Deadeline....AV was given a gift at the deadline in Staal and has blown it.......As far as individual players, it's not worth it picking out individual players (cough, Hayes, cough) for their occasional failures..EVERYTHING is a team thing...The team has to show the effort, the hunger, the passion...And if the team doesn't, there's only one place to look.....The Rangers have the players to beat the Pens if they go balls to the wall for 60 minutes...but that faucet remains on off..

Hospo


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:32 pm EST

JFC, THAT is the player I said the playoffs, especially this series. would rest on. He and Hank. Nash is NOT a playoff performer, he doesnt dangle, doesnt force it, he plays a sharp defensive game. We need more than that from him, but he cant give what he doesnt have. I have NO CLUE why some players are not playoff performers...its in all sports. Nash is ours. So, let's use Nash to help defend, with Girardi and Brady out there we need a LOT of help against this high powered offense, and let Kreider step up to the plate. He can plant himself in front of the rookie goalie, and young D and go for rebounds. He can crash the net and shake the goalie up. HE has to do it. It's not looking too promising.

WIOSA


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:27 pm EST

One of the guys the Rangers could really use in the playoffs is Chris Kreider. The guy struggled all year and then got it together just at an opportune time....the last 3 weeks leading into the post season. Playing with Step and Zucc, Kreider had entered BEAST mode....not only was he using his speed and getting chances, but he was FINISHING! So what does AV do? He breaks up the line with 2 games to go before the POs for NO GOOD REASON! It made absolutely no sense. Then when the RAngers are behind 2-0 going into the 3rd, AV puts that line back together. He is flailing and "fixing" things that ain't broke.

JFC31


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:26 pm EST

Me thinks that if Nash is not scoring goals, he needs to beat his man & or draw double coverage and make the "proper pass" that leads to a primary or secondary assist... If he does this effectively, I don't don't care if he doesn't score a playoff goal, and I bet most here will be just fine with a bunch of secondary assists..... This Nash can accomplish, will he?

mf


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:21 pm EST

https://www.nhl.com/news/henrik-lundqvist-new-york-rangers-practicing/c-280321010?tid=280160686

JFC31


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:21 pm EST

RF?VIC: I had the same thoughts regarding Dan Girardi. 1) they do not want to embarrass the man, and frankly theres no need to 2) you don't want to diminish any trade value in the future if there is an attemp to trade him

mf


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:15 pm EST

Knowing the NHL's chuckleheaded officiating, will anyone be surprised when McIlrath gets 5 and a game for legally obliterating some Pen in the first period tomorrow? (see? now *that's* the kind of pessimism only a lifelong Ranger fan can drum up.)

LeoS


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:14 pm EST

McILRATH says...."I feel ready. I'm hungry".

Vic


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:12 pm EST

Also, when asked about what is GIRARDI's injury (Upper or Lower body) he responded with "It's the whole thing". I interpret that to mean that the guy is either physically a mess, or they are benching him and trying to help him save face.

Vic


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:10 pm EST

From AV: "It's time to make a difference here. We need our top end players to be better." The tweets all said he is calling for more from the BRASSARD and STEPAN lines.

Vic


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:06 pm EST

RF4L: I wondered the same thing but GIRARDI has been playing hurt all year and I recall him being in pain in game 1 after blocking a shot. Maybe that one did a little more damage then it appeared. Tough to say because I could see the organization wanting to bend over backwards not to embarrass the guy after all he has done for this team. But, injured or not he needs to come out of the lineup.

Vic


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:03 pm EST

Also says that McILRATH is in for now but they may call up someone from Hartford to have "seven healthy D practicing". Lookout! I sense the return of the savior known as DIAZ.

Vic


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:02 pm EST

Has AV sat G but is saving his pride by telling the media it's injury related?

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 1:01 pm EST

RF: AV says GIRARDI is injured.

Vic


Fri Apr 15 2016 12:59 pm EST

York- Fair point. What I do stand by however is that there always is a lot of talk about of this team have "it", if a coach have "it" to win a cup, if a player have "it" to score in the POs and so forth and so forth. First you need to play good hockey, then you can worry about having "it".

Ola


Fri Apr 15 2016 12:59 pm EST

Did AV say why G is scratched? Injury or bad play?

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 12:58 pm EST

AV officially ruling out GIRARDI for tomorrow. HANK will be a game time decision.

Vic


Fri Apr 15 2016 12:57 pm EST

DREW: fear not. The bar is low with the NYI. They think that 1-game against the Panthers is the launching point to a cup run. Just the same as I cracked up when people officially declared the New York Rangers were going to be obliterated by the Pens. If that's the case I saw a pretty primed SJ Sharks team last night as well. I have this theory that states, games are decided on the ice. And I've seen nothing that would give me the affirmation that a cup is coming to any city yet. So NYI fans can be all ready to go to their parade but I'm pretty sure a few other teams would wanna play them for it.

E


Fri Apr 15 2016 12:51 pm EST

ANDREI, This is why I wonder what you are watching sometimes, He has smarts? Really how many stupid plays have we seen from this kid, where he just holds the puck and then passes it way late to turn it over? Between last year and this year? Way too many to count. Does he have talent? Absolutely but talent isn't enough. Does he have size? Yes, does he use it to his advantage? Sometimes, he more often than not uses it to hold on to the puck for too long. He scores goals most players can not? Are you serious? This is a guy that is averaging 15 goals a year, where are these goals that most players can't score? They are obviously so few and far in between you could actually call them luck. If I based Maliks goal scoring on that shoot out goal between the legs I could say he scores goals most players can't but that would be insane. I also did a lot of thinking about Hayes did he have that bad a season? Actually no, he had a season where he scored 10 points less than last year. He actually played this whole year very much like he did 2/3 of last year. He just got hot in that stretch that enabled him to garner those extra 10 points. What I think is Hayes is a what you see is what you get player. He's not going to become a top end player, he's much like a poor mans Stepan who you hate so much, neither are good in the faceoff circle both have long stretches of nothing and Stepan has a little bit better touch at goal scoring but both average the same assist to goals ratio pretty much. As for the Rangers have another 6'5 center in the system he's blocking, what does his height have to do with anything, if it's about height go sign minute bol you;ll have a 7-4 player. No one here said trade him for nothing, everyone wants to trade him and get something good back for him while he still looks to have upside and isn't just a 2-3 line center who can't win a faceoff.

York18


Fri Apr 15 2016 12:18 pm EST

Newfie_Ranger, i know Hayes had a bad year. but Rangers need to get rid of him in the off-season? No one had complained last year when he showed brilliance and scored 45 points as a rookie... This year he might have hit the rookie wall. Most rookies do. He has size, has smarts and can score goals that many players cannot. Why not wait till next season and see who Ken Hayes really is. He has potential to be at least a number two center on a team. Part of the problem, is that he was used on the wing, where he looks lost. He is much better at C. He is only 23, and plying only his second year as a Pro. Do we have another 6.5 feet tall center coming up through the ranks that Hayes is blocking??? I really don't understand Ranger fans. Some crying that we don't have enough prospects, some crying that all picks were traded away. Here is a real NHL player, playing his 2nd year as a Pro, scoring 80 points in 160 games and fans want to get rid him? If you are talking about a trade for Taylor Hall and Hayes is part of the package with Girardi? i'm all ears. But to trade him for the sake of trading?

andrei


Fri Apr 15 2016 12:14 pm EST

A pressbox trade maybe - G for McI..............

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 12:14 pm EST

VtRanger - a possible trade?

RF73


Fri Apr 15 2016 11:44 am EST

G not on the ice for practice.

VtRanger


Fri Apr 15 2016 11:16 am EST

DREW: Yeah, what Newf says, too, meaning fourth, even if somehow they managed to avoid the Caps (re they get eliminated by Philly or the Rangers - lol), and stumbled into the finals, they'll get steamrolled by whoever emerges from the west. Nah, you go nothing to worry about in that regard my friend...

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 11:14 am EST

york: We've said it before but it's worth saying again: AV's stubbornness when it comes to his lineup changes (or lack thereof to be more specific) is akin to one famous definition of insanity: Keep doing the same thing over and over again even tho it's not working, hoping things will change. I mean...WTF isn't this man seeing anyways?

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 11:13 am EST

DREW............I don't think any team in the East is gonna win the Cup, including the Caps. Teams in the West are just too big, too fast...........JMHO !..................(.unless of course Holtby keeps playing like Price ! )

Newfie_Ranger


Fri Apr 15 2016 11:12 am EST

DREW: I get your trepidation with the Rangers but IMO you are giving the Islanders way too much credit. First, they were outplayed overall by the Panthers. Second, their goaltending is suspect and regardless of how they end up faring against Florida, it's not good enough for a deep PO run (and that includes Halak if and when he returns). Third, they won't be able to beat the Caps. There are some very good pieces on that team, but IMO they aren't deep enough, experienced enough and have average goaltending. The right GM could, with some savvy moves, make them into a cup contender perhaps but they aren't there yet.

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 11:06 am EST

DREW - guys talk me down from the ledge - I am asking for help. Not only am I down on the Rangers, I have a huge fear of the Islanders winning the cup. Even at 41 - I have Islander fan friends that are texting me since last year (out of the blue). One picture I get annually is Lundqvist and a stanley cup "Ooooh you almost had it". Anyone else fear the Islanders winning this cup?

DREW


Fri Apr 15 2016 10:56 am EST

RF4L...of course he doesn't need to change, in his mind, he isn't doing anything wrong...it's all about the players not doing the right things...just listen to the canned BS in the pre/post game interviews.

RF73


Fri Apr 15 2016 10:53 am EST

STRANGER: the NYR had a player take over an unfair number of times. His name is Lundqvist. What you're really loathing is you want to see a Drew Doughty type takeover of a hockey game where he just drags a team up and down the ice. So how many teams have a Drew Doughty on standby? Truth is the NYR are what they are. They are built goaltender out. Their defense is where they put their horses and their forwards are a deep collection of 20-25 goal scorers. They aren't gonna overwhelm you with a superstar who is gonna have that rare night. When they win they just chip away methodically. Traditionally, I have seen very few teams more comfortable with a 1-goal lead then the NYR. Their woes are not the reflection of an offensive talent who took over a game. Their woes are their traditionally formidable defense is just not that formidable anymore. And it's changing everything about the way the NYR play. It's causing them to be less aggressive, it's generating less plays off of the transition. It changes everything. Last game the NYR came out dominate. They buzzed and shelled Pitt almost the entire period. Then G shit the bed and changed the entire complexion of the game.

E


Fri Apr 15 2016 10:47 am EST

OLA I think you're being a little too negative where did it get this team, three conference finals in 4 years, a cup finals so they obviously were doing something right.....................RF G can coach, he does a lot with very little, but what's more important is when he gets a player sent down to work with they always come back better and that's because he and Beuk work very hard with these kids.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I'm honestly disgusted with AV.

York18


Fri Apr 15 2016 10:45 am EST

Has Rafael Diaz been recalled yet? If lineup changes are to be made, there have to be players that the coach is willing to put into the lineup.

Bob


Fri Apr 15 2016 10:36 am EST

RF: LOL, why would AV change his tactics now? Besides, he doesn't want to dress McI, so on the backline anyways, there are no changes to make. Girard will probably even be in the starting 5!

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 10:06 am EST

Just overheard...Reporter: Any lineup changes? AV: Lineup changes?...What?...No, why?. Reporter: I just thought after the last performance you would be considering it. AV: Ha ha, No, no changes but I do know we have quite a few guys that have to play better than they did. End of interview

RF73


Fri Apr 15 2016 9:49 am EST

"The Rangers practice in Pittsburgh today at 12:30, so we’ll get a better idea about Henrik Lundqvist’s availability for Game 2 against the Penguins at that point. If Lundqvist is on the ice for practice, you’d have to figure he will play Game 2 Saturday afternoon. If he’s not practicing, he won’t play, at least that’s what Rangers coach Alain Vigneault said on Thursday when asked. The Rangers won’t have a morning skate Saturday, so he thinks Lundqvist would have to have a practice in order to play in Game 2. Lundqvist saw an eye specialist Thursday after leaving Game 1 during the first intermission upon taking a stick from teammate Marc Staal, through the bars on his mask, and to the right eye. Meanwhile, we should also have an idea about any lineup changes, and you would have to think there will be some after that unacceptable performance in Game 1, a passenger-filled 5-2 loss to a third-string goalie. So keep an eye on the widget right over there ——–> and we’ll have a new post later on, after AV meets the media following practice. We should also have a little more info today on Marc-Andre Fleury and Evgeni Malkin, among others. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/15/expect-news-on-rangers-lundqvist-today/#sthash.bXHsF4w0.dpuf

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 9:47 am EST

rlou if he's at practice, he's good, otherwise uncle raanta is the man....hopefully the new prince....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 9:44 am EST

coaches, players, it doesn't matter, they all have to get on the same page and be a TEAM. but Nash and him need to get goals....plain and simple....otherwise plan 4th line.....

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 9:44 am EST

Any news on Lundqvist’s Eye

rangerlou


Fri Apr 15 2016 9:21 am EST

stevie: Yep, certainly cannot disagree there. I concur that the root of this team's problems this year start with the coach.

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 9:14 am EST

rf4l the coach has to get Nash scoring, that should be job 1. whatever line-mates work, if it doesn't put him on the 4th line. no time to coddle players , lead them.

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 8:51 am EST

Wiosa judging by the results the coach is not sure who has chemistry and who does not. His impatience during the season to stick with combos for 5 or more games is evidence of that. His and Nash's inability to get on a roll is a major problem that has not gotten to the desired results . He has a hard time dealing with the big rocks that need to be addressed first. His priorities seem to be confused. He would probably have a hard time coaching an all star team. But it's never because of him , it's the players. That's pure bs.

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 8:50 am EST

RF I missed that Hamonic sp? Goal.

NYStranger


Fri Apr 15 2016 8:48 am EST

That is right. When was the last time a Ranger (skater) took over a game in the playoffs and won it by will alone. Since the Messier (first stint) and Leetch years and then Gretzky in the '97 run, the only game that comes to mind was game 7, I believe against Ottawa or maybe it was Washington, when Brad Richards really took over and basically won that game. Otherwise...? That is a big reason why we have had so many long series; Why this group can not get over the hump.

NYStranger


Fri Apr 15 2016 8:31 am EST

stevie: For sure there's solid overall skill, but is there top end skill that can and does come thru in the clutch? Nash was supposed to be that guy but clearly he's not. After that, who is there? The Rangers, as they are constructed now, can be very successful but the entire team has to be on board - if/when one third (or more) of the players are on auto-pilot they suffer, as we've seen so many times this year and as we saw in game 1. If that issue persists, the Rangers are done - it's simply a matter of how many games the Penguins will need to bounce them. Maybe the King's absence will serve to rally the troops? Something needs to rally them, that's for sure. We can't have no shots from Brassard and Nash falling down like a 9 year old house league player and Zuke invisible, etc tomorrow and expect to win IMO.

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 8:29 am EST

Stevielegs...I too agree there is no chemistry..or very little from what I see. That said, do you honestly think this coach has not worked on line combos? I dont think I can remember a game where we ended with the same combos we started with. AV did the 'Broadway Shuffle' all season long as far as I can recall. I do believe it was to get a legitimate second scoring line, as a one line team is easy to shut down. I think what he came up with is chaos. That's really what comes to mind when I watch these players struggle to perform on ice. Chaos.

WIOSA


Fri Apr 15 2016 8:26 am EST

I think the nyr have the skill, it's the desire, will, soul, chemistry etc that needs more leadership. The line combos could be the real problem. The coach needs to work on that if they are not clicking tomorrow. E Staal with the bergs was a good line, and the nash staal experiment was way too short to decide yes or no. Weknow is probably already in panic mode.

stevielegs


Fri Apr 15 2016 7:47 am EST

Ola: Interesting post and something we've talked about in here many times in the past - that being a lack of top end skill on the Rangers (after the King). I concur it's a problem and that problem isn't going away anytime soon, either I suspect (if anything, it's likely to get worse). I think it behooves Gorton to do some major restructuring if the Rangers get bounced this round.

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 7:43 am EST

NYStranger: Did you see that move Harmonic made on that goal? And Barkov for the Panthers - where's the ceiling for that guy?

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 7:26 am EST

RF I was going to post the same thing. I was watching hockey for the game for the first time in a long time. Real good speed and hitting, scoring chances...Jagr's mullet!

NYStranger


Fri Apr 15 2016 7:26 am EST

Nice to see those bullies in LA lose their first PO game last night. It would be great to see them bounced in the first round.

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 7:15 am EST

BTW, that 3rd period was very entertaining - so much more fun to watch vs most NHL games these days. Florida has some extremely talented players.

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 6:53 am EST

I posted about this previously - it's interesting that Gernander's name never seems to come up when other NHL head coaching vacancies exist (and there's always plenty of them in the spring). It could be because the Pack seem to be perpetually mediocre - it's Calder Cup wins that draw the attention of other organizations I think. On loyalty alone, Gernander should get some consideration if AV gets canned. The fact that the Pack usually seem at least competitive yet oftentimes Sather gives the team minimal talent is of course, worthy of noting, too. That's coaching AFAIC.

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 6:47 am EST

BTW, did anyone see the move Harmonic made on what I think was the Islanders' 4th goal? Holy crap, no wonder Snow hasn't traded him yet. Wow...

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 6:46 am EST

I watched the 3rd period of the FLA/Islander game - I suspect the Rangers would have had trouble with the Panthers - very quick and creative in the offensize zone. They would have exploited the Rangers tendency to run around and for sure made mincemeat out of Girardi!

RF4L


Fri Apr 15 2016 6:31 am EST

Hospo- On Ladd and lack of leadership, I don't know to be honest. This is the NHL so you always need to be able to grind no doubt. But looking around the league after G1 of the POs, boy is speed and skill what matters in this league right now. Any team that don't skate well or stop playing with the puck is just run over out there. I agree that we could be better, but I think the real source of the problem this team have had constantly for a pretty long time now to be honest is that we just don't play that good hockey. We do not have much swagger with the puck. We do not have individual mega stars that can take care of things themselves. What we have is the best goalie, good depth and a team that at least used to be good at "not" shooting themselves in the foot so to speak. You know, where has that taken us to? Among other things a lot of 7 games series against pretty sub par opponents, a worthless PP for long stretches, and so forth and so forth. I think the talk around this organization of snows into a question if a the team, a star or coach have "it". When we as a team and many players fail to get to any kind of world class level that it actually takes to be a contender in a league of 30, I just think it's a bit premature to talk about us lacking it.

Ola


Fri Apr 15 2016 5:52 am EST

TD Yeah he's been with them a long time, he's loyal and he loves the org. I remember when he retired, Schoeny was the coach of the Pack but it was Gernander who ran the practices not Schoeny. He was groomed for the position even before he retired, Sather ha a lot of respect for G. I just think after what happen with Trottier Sather was gun shy on bringing in another non NHL coach................If Gorton decides this team is not getting another kick at the can then Gernander might be the guy best suited to coach here, bringing in young assets and developing them is what G does well and having him on the big club to do that will be a benefit. I think also what is needed is not another Torts, but not someone hands off like AV. G is right in the middle, demands respect, knows his Xs and Os but also runs a tight ship. If this team is going to make a retool and go with younger players he would certainly be my first choice.

York18


Fri Apr 15 2016 5:38 am EST

E..........I was with you until you said HAYES..................FIRST player I would get rid of in the summer ! I think people think if we let him go ,he'll turn into a Thorton on another team ? Better chance on me winning the Lotto !

Newfie_Ranger


Fri Apr 15 2016 12:53 am EST

FWIW: I think the one thing that Tortorella left upon the team was a sense of how to win. When he was fired I don't think that the NYR needed another task master. They knew how to motivate themselves. They needed a plan. An X and O's guy who also could develop talent. Now the real question as this season rides on and into next season is will he continue to be able to develop the younger parts of the core (presumingly Skjei, Mcilrath, Buchnevich, and maybe Graves) to add to Miller, CK, Stepan, and perhaps Hayes.

E


Thu Apr 14 2016 10:27 pm EST

Tdchi back Sather was flirting with messier than decided to go with experience. He didn't seem to consider Lindy ruff maybe he was afraid of his last name and had just fired a bubblegum tough guy. So he went with cerebral over emotional. ..... Leadership is not blaming it's taking ownership. Weknow doesn't get that and I'm pretty sure some of the players don't appreciate that. He takes the credit with we in wins and it's them in loses....that's not a good leader...his press conference last night was just more proof of that...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 10:12 pm EST

stevielegs - Just speculation, but I suspect the Rangers passed on him after Torts got canned largely because the figured AV might be the final piece to throw them over the finish line and they figured go for it rather than grab an inexperienced coach. G is still pretty young too...I could definitely see him getting a job in NY sometime in the future...York - I was thinking G had been in the organization at least since 1999 or so...but man, you're right...1994-95...with the Binghamton Rangers...He even racked up 15 playoff games with the Rangers...and forgot one other guy he's got a Hartford connection with...Dom MOORE...of course they were teammates back then!

tdchi


Thu Apr 14 2016 10:06 pm EST

They were led by their coach. "It's 2-0 boys. We have 2 periods to surrender and make it look like we aren't trying to lose this game." Guess it worked.

Bob


Thu Apr 14 2016 10:02 pm EST

Fishstinks coach talking about his captain " you have to lead by example" ... Cliche not being executed by many of the nyr ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:56 pm EST

I guess Capuano showed Vigneault.

Bob


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:44 pm EST

Rangers need to watch this icehole/panthers game and get a sense of what effort looks like. What hitting looks like. What crisp passing and speed and hustle looks like.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:42 pm EST

Stranger - I just fear it will happen. They are on the PP up a goal with 3 mins to go. Wouldn't it be ranger luck that after 2 years of close runs, they win the cup?

DREW


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:28 pm EST

Drew I hope you are only saying that to jinx them! A cup with Greiss in net? Don't know about that.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:26 pm EST

iceholes were taking over the game, but their goalie sucks so FLs is right back in it again.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:23 pm EST

5-3 Islanders - I think they are going to have a long playoff run. Possibly a cup

DREW


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:06 pm EST

STEVIE: AV is a very good coach. He was far and away the best coach available post Tortorella. I still contend he is a very good coach. Is he good enough to get the New York Rangers to the promised land? I have years of wall documented record about what type of team I covet. That's not his philosophy. I want rough and tumble grinding and heavy team. AV wants a fast transition and spread passes and is willing to live with dips and doodles trying to get goalies to move and the potential turnovers and play the other way it creates. Instead, I want a heavy team that gets in deep and grinds that puck and gets kick outs to the front of the net. That's my philosophy. One stat that gets overlooked although I have not checked it lately was the New York Rangers was on the PP less then most teams. What does that say to me? They don't rough a team up and make them take penalties. Not enough quality zone time. That's my take on it. That's my biggest gripe. I think that's how you win especially in the playoffs.

E


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:02 pm EST

Stevie...Im hoping..I always hope.

WIOSA


Thu Apr 14 2016 8:58 pm EST

Wiosa hopefully you will feel better on Saturday. Remember it takes 4 wins ..... There's a long way to go, this series just started ...

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 8:53 pm EST

E I thought you were a big fan of Veenknow when he was hired? I thought I was a big fan of talkerella but his act of safe is death to play it safe became stale . These guys are supposed to be leaders and motivators yet somehow they fall into narcissism . I guess it becomes their survival mechanism. I think both these guys have a black cloud following them in the playoffs , and get rained on becoming all wet. I hope weknow remembers how to use an umbrella. ... Gernander would be the correct choice if he's interested in being an NHL coach . Maybe he's happy where he is and is more suited to teaching players how to get to the NHL and what it takes to stay there. .....That's fishboys decision among many after the playoff results ....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 8:42 pm EST

Ok...made a liar out of me...2-0 with seconds to go for the Caps, Ovi held scoreless

WIOSA


Thu Apr 14 2016 8:36 pm EST

Wow, the Caps having a hard time scoring...they are 1/6 on the PP, which is Ovi's specialty. Flyers giving it all theyve got. Making me even angrier. Brooklyn losing to Florida but it's early in the second. Im still angry about last night,,,usually by now Ive calmed down.

WIOSA


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:56 pm EST

TD: the only way I see AV losing his job is if the players trash him during the exit interviews. He is the coach whether people like him or not. He wouldn't have been my choice based on style of play but I do believe in continuity and he'd get another spin. But who knows? I think Gorton is not likely to give this team another kick at the can (nor does he have the salary space) and he'd start to reshape the team. Shed some salaries, make some moves. Call it a retool.

E


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:42 pm EST

Rangers are yesterdays news.....The party is over for this team. Can they beat the Pens? Yes....but they don't have the fortitude to play all out. U watch a team like the Panthers tonight....they are young (other than Jags)......they are like fresh paint.......whereas the Rangers are like peeling off the walls........If the Rangers coach had the balls to dress both Skjei and McIlarth we would atleast have some youth and players on the upswing. Coach and management know that the cupboards are bare so they are riding with Girardi and milking whatever shit comes out of him because of his dumb ass contract. Time will tell.

TradeStar28


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:35 pm EST

TD well said, and G would command and get a lot of respect quick like you said there are a lot of guys who have played for him and know he is a no joke coach. He has been with the Rangers since 1994 no one else can say they have been with the Rangers as long as he has when you consider he never left, he went from player to coaching immediately that's how well respected he is withing the org.

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:04 pm EST

Anyone watching the Caps/ Flyers Game.? Rangers should take some notes on how Philly is playing.

rangerlou


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:01 pm EST

I for one don't believe even a first-round exit would spell doom for AV...but just to jump in on this GERNANDER talk, the Rangers could do FAR worse. I can't say whether he is an NHL-caliber coach, but as York said, he's done wonders with the talent the Rangers do have in Hartford...and if you're looking for a guy to restore and/or I still respect for the crest, look no further. The guy has lived and breathed this organization basically from his days as a player to the current. There's a reason he's the longest-tenured coach Hartford has ever had, and part of it is that he gets his players to buy into this organization. If the Penguins can make a shithead like Sully look like coach of the year, I'd be very curious to see how the Rangers would respond to a guy like G, who is as good of a soldier as you'd find in the Rangers' organization. BTW, he coached the Pack to a win over the Marlies last night, beating the behemoth team of the AHL to inexplicably keep the Pack's playoff hopes alive. All while his top defender is playing in New York. Is GERNANDER a panacea for NY? Who knows. But he'd certainly command respect with any Ranger that has played under him as a coach. That means guys like MILLER, LINDBERG, FAST, ZUCC, McD, MACK, and KREIDER to name a few.

tdchi


Thu Apr 14 2016 6:44 pm EST

ANDREI Are you seriously going to rag on Stepan at the faceoff circle? Hayes is supposed to be a center plays better at center but can't win a faceoff for his life which is why he has to play wing. Stepan scored two goals last night, how many did Hayes have? You also don't remember a scoring chance from Zuch or Brassard last night? Guess you weren't watching the game I can think of one each right off the bat without thinking about it. I can also think of three stupid neutral zone turnovers Hayes made that led to scoring chances because he held the puck to long. Brassard had a bad game last night no doubt, compared to Hayes who had a horrible SEASON. As for the coaches you mentioned there are rumors if the Blues don't have a good playoff run Hitch is gone, Julian got a save but his time is limited if he doesn't right the ship quick Ottawa just canned their coach as for candidates if you think Gernander is all there is out there you're kidding yourself. There are a number of coaches out there actually at least half a dozen so it doesn't have to just be Gernander, but you look what he has done in Hartford with very little, look at all the players he developed down there and you see a coach and his staff doing good things. Last but not least you have had a hate on for Stepan for ages, funny thing is Hayes couldn't carry his stick to the rink and yet you tout hayes.

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 6:36 pm EST

hipcheck - I'd say it's more like day-to-day with an undisclosed injury ;)

LeoS


Thu Apr 14 2016 5:10 pm EST

Moof isthmus , it must be your lucky day... One more ....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8StG4fFWHqg

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 5:03 pm EST

Anybody else walking around physically sick today?

hipcheck


Thu Apr 14 2016 4:42 pm EST

ok so all the coaches and all the players on the nyr are good, and nice guys...end of story...they have to win 4 in 6 or less games....move on, there's nothing to see here ....here comes a moof song...everything is beautiful in it's own way......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a45z_HG3WU

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 3:39 pm EST

Vic, i'm with you. I don't understand Rangers fans sometimes. They pick a particular player and everything that is wrong with the team get's blamed on just that individual. To me, Hayes played very well last night. To me, his whole line played well. Why none is saying how bad Brassards line played last night, including fan favorite Zuck? I can't recall a single scoring chance by that line. How about Stepan and his great performance at the face off circle? Can Stepan win a damn faceoff when you need one? Yes, Girardi was horrible last night. That being said, when team looses, the whole team loses. People, it happens in the playoffs. Teams simply don't get swept anymore. Step away from the ledge... You need to understand how coaches, and organizations approach head-coaching in general. Good coaches don't get fired on daily bases. Look around. Boston had one of the worst meltdowns in recent memory, and still Julien will be back next season. STL Blues have not won a playoff round in 4 years, and still retain Hitch. Michel Therrien is still a headcoach, despite horrible results. To think that Rangers would fire AV and replace him with Ken Gernander?? Seriously? NHL head coaching is one of the hardest jobs around. Which is why it is a tight small group where same people get cycled over and over again. In general. they approach rosters same way. In no shape or form will rookie replaces veteran during the playoffs game, that unless vet is injured. Relax with AV firing chants. Most of you might disagree with his decisions, but understand, any other coach in his position would dress up the same line up. What i did not see that Rangers were not prepared for the game. I though team had a good plan in place before the game. Rangers dominated the 1st period, before refs with 3 straight calls allowed Pens to gain some momentum, and even then, we kept Pit's to only 4 shots, with no shots allowed on 2 powerplays. Rangers rolled 4 lines, kept shooting at the next from all angels and got close few times to score goals, before refs decided that game was too much lopsided, and decided to start calling phantom calls.Had Rangers scored within first 15 minutes, the final score would have being different....

andrei


Thu Apr 14 2016 3:30 pm EST

VT: for sure G was right but you play whistle to whistle and he and everyone else knew that. Funny how the guys on NHL Sirius gave a good thrashing on G calling him a shell of the player he once was and perhaps his day has just come and gone. But the bottom line is, he just cannot be making those mistakes. He is arguably the least skilled of the defenseman but the one who does the blood and guts work. But its just not enough these days. The NYR will not win this series on their ability to put their faces in front of pucks. They'll win it thru possession and making the Pens skate 200'

E


Thu Apr 14 2016 3:05 pm EST

York et al: IMO at this point there are 2 ways to get another team to accept Girardi: Trade him AND a viable asset for 'futures' or eat some of his salary. With Nash, it's likely eat some of his salary. That said, the Leafs, last time this year, were sitting on 2 horrible contracts that all the 'pundits' deemed unmovable - Kessel with 6 years at $8,000,000 per and Phaneuf with 5 years and $7,000,000 per. Look what happened: The Leafs got 2 decent prospects and a first for Kessel and only had to pick up 1/7 of his salary and a prospects and a couple of bottom 6 veterans forwards for Phaneuf. Given that, it's not unreasonable to believe that it's possible to move both Girardi and Nash, but it certainly won't be easy and will take some hard work on Gorton's part. Is he up to it?

RF4L


Thu Apr 14 2016 3:01 pm EST

RF4L....I disagree....it's squarely on the coach....

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:35 pm EST

there is a challenge for offside but not for icing, which is usually worse than offside?....buttman .....absurd as usual....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:31 pm EST

KIS Goalies are an odd bunch, they usually are super focused in the locker room and don't do a lot of talking. Even Roy who was known as a talker on the ice didn't do a lot of talking in the locker room but when he did everyone listened. I remember when the Habs made their run to the cup and had all those OT wins I forgot who someone said when it came time to win the series and they were going into OT Roy stood up and told them do what you have to do boys, I'll stop everything they throw at me, nothing is going to get by me. Well they listened and they won. As for Luongo being a captain it was stupid because a captain is suppsoed to talk to the refs, goalies are not allowed to cross center ice, making him captain was an ego thing................BOB its funny because Maloney is so respected for what he knows he says what he wants and he was dead right Girardi is bad enough without stupid mistakes like that......................TRACER You just have to hope someone is stupid enough to bite, one mans trash is another mans treasure.....................RF That's why I said he's still not the leader he can be, he's not playing enough, give him time and he will be a leader, he was very vocal in Hartford and will be here once he gets a regular spot. Richards and MSL were the leaders and now they are not just a boat without a captain, they have no oars it seems either. You already know what I have thought of Nash, it was known before he even put on a Rangers sweater, I think he's a waste of talent, with no heart. The bigger the game, the faster he disappears. Between him and Girardi I don't know how you can find teams wanting to take on their salaries.

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:30 pm EST

There is no coaches challenge for icing calls. I watched the replay of the 1st goal several times. Girardi is likely right that icing should have been called. Nevertheless, his slowing down to argue is inexcusable. A cardinal sin for an NHL player. To think he did that in the a playoff game is simply mind-boggling. All high level players are trained to play to the whistle. The fact that he did what he did confirms for me that he is spent, it tells me that he is uncomfortable exerting himself to the max on the ice. It's a telltale sign that a player is exhausted or hurt as he's grasping for a reason to slow up: it is not the reaction of a veteran player who is on top of his game. I also watched the other goals that Girardi was involved. On the Crosby goal, he made the worst choice possible--put a weak shot down the middle that was sure to be blocked. On the other goal, he fatally allowed marshmellow/couch potato boy Kessel to establish position in the crease. I've had it with him. Doesn't matter whether it's fatigue, injury, age or a combination of them all, AV needs to scratch Girardi from the next game. Enough is enough. The only thing more horrifying than his play last night, is the fact that G is signed for four more seasons with a cap hit of $5.5 million per.

VtRanger


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:22 pm EST

Furthermore, the team didn't exactly get blitzed when the 2nd period started. Did they play as well as they did in the first? No, but they didn't fall apart, either. The Crosby break-away goal was another series of defensive breakdowns and the short-handed goal, arguably the back-breaker of the game, was ridiculous. Neither had anything to do with the King's blurry eye. Rather all 3 goals were more of what we saw so often during the regular season - inexplicable break downs by not just one player, but multiple players. You're not gonna go far in the POs if those sort of things continue.

RF4L


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:19 pm EST

FWIW, the King should have not said he was ready to return, so that decision isn't solely on AV IMO. I'm sure he asked and I'm sure the King said he was fine. I'm equally sure all involved saw the time on the clock (48 seconds) and figured they'd weather the storm. And really when you look at that goal, the King's eye (blurry or otherwise) was the least of the issues - as spelled out a few times, Girardi stopped skating and the rest of the skaters on the ice started puck watching. There's a good chance that goal may have gone in regardless - the goal scorer was UNCONTESTED in front. That's got nothing to do with the King's eye...

RF4L


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:15 pm EST

Agreed that it's nice to envision McI being a vocal leader but no way is that possible when the coach pressboxes him 2 out of every 3 games. Forgot about Richards and his leadership abilities - probably not as vocal as MSL but legend has it equally effective in a milder way. Look at the team now - who has the gonads combined with the resume? Nada. Sometimes, when that happens, it's leadership by committee but when your best players (or your should be best players) are taking nights off (i.e. Brassard and Nash) and/or making mistakes so frequently (Girardi) and aren't natural leaders in the first place (McD), you're in trouble. Gorton needs to do some serious reviewing of his team this summer I think...

RF4L


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:14 pm EST

weknow thinks these players are like that guy in the holy grail as his arm is cut off he says ' it's only a flesh wound'.....“He’s been checked by our doctors,” coach Alain Vigneault said today during media availability at the team’s hotel as no practice was scheduled. “At this time, we don’t feel it’s anything too serious. There was a little bit of swelling around the eye so he’s going to see another specialist this afternoon and we’ll have more news for you tomorrow.” The Rangers earlier in the day called up goalie Magnus Hellberg from Hartford (AHL). “It’s in case we get some bad news tomorrow,” Vigneault said. “But, at this time, we don’t feel that way and it’s just a matter of where the injury is and being on the safe side and make sure he’s all right.”

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:10 pm EST

Girardi - 6 years, $33 million. He still has four years left on that contract. Good luck, Rangers.

tracerm


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:10 pm EST

word from weknow ( wafmoron ) as per carp....RICK CARPINIELLO on APRIL 14, 2016 12:59 PM Sorry, catching up … Lundqvist seeing a specialist today, has some swelling, wanted to stay in the final :48 of first … AV said he will have to be able to practice Friday to play Saturday. Hellberg recalled just in case. McDonagh will not play Saturday. Miller and Glass both getting treatment today for bumps, bruises last night. AV said he is considering lineup changes. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/14/game-1-rangers-penguins-in-review-2/#comment-2719579

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:07 pm EST

Bob, York, I could not agree more.....when Hank went back in I was beside myself.....what the Hell was the point of that!!!!!

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 14 2016 2:00 pm EST

what's hank going to say now? ' i now know how the coaches see with 1 eye' ..... 2 cyclops unite.....get a pair....hank is a leader and would probably be the capt, but only luongo got away with that somewhat....not a good idea....i'm sure he speaks up. he's really a very good speaker when interviewed ....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 1:37 pm EST

Tucc/puckyou - I was gonna say the same thing about AV! What's best for the Rangers isn't always the same as 'respecting' your veterans or whatever his schtick is. Though I was surprised that Skjei got as much all-around icetime as he did - PP, PK etc. VIC - I agree on Hayes, plus I saw him throw more hits yesterday than I did all season. RF4L/York - I can see McIlrath wearing the Rangers' C one day. That would certainly change the culture of this team!

LeoS


Thu Apr 14 2016 1:29 pm EST

Hospo. In the locker room Hank can't and isn't a leader ?

KIS


Thu Apr 14 2016 1:19 pm EST

What's really sad is one game into the playoffs and we are arguing who is the leader on this team. Freaking Pathetic. This team needs to be overhauled!!!

rangerlou


Thu Apr 14 2016 1:01 pm EST

KIS - The KIng is more of a measured guy...plus Goalies don't often take on that role..some may be fiery but rarely take players to task..

Hospo


Thu Apr 14 2016 12:56 pm EST

I can't believe Hank isn't a leader in that locker room.

KIS


Thu Apr 14 2016 12:47 pm EST

YORK--Dave Maloney killed Girardi on the radio immediately. I was stuck in traffic and listening at the time. He called him lazy on the play, of a lack of commitment to the details and said that he just could not do that in a playoff game. The only person Maloney killed worse was Tim Peel. After the first 3 penalties called, he said that Peel was not allowed to ref in last years' playoffs, and that he had come back a year too early. Kenny Albert was dying.

Bob


Thu Apr 14 2016 12:42 pm EST

I believe it was valliquette who said Girardi shouldn't have slowed down.

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 12:19 pm EST

just looked would have been an icing if girardi didn't stop skating and instead talking to the ref, so it was close, maybe the pigpen beat him to the dot....but it was an icing and might have been called if the crack coaches alias negative zeroes challenged.....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 12:09 pm EST

Hospo some are from carp, your favorite person next to jasper.....I think the players can still turn it back on, but not the coaches.....they don't seem to be able to handle the pressure of the playoffs, and never got this team together for them this season. i haven't gone back to look at the 1st goal if it was icing, i hope the coaches did and rightly decided not to challenge. otherwise if girardi was right, they should have, and the score would have been 0-0 at the end of the first, even with hank being left in.....to me most has pointed to the coaches more than the players, even though some didn't give 100 % last night.....it's rare any team has all it's players doing that.....the nyr have done it when there backs are against the wall....hope they still can .....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 12:05 pm EST

That should say MSL wasn't well liked by a certain group of players.

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 12:03 pm EST

BOB, I agree I had two serious work related eye injuries one where I lost vision in one of my eyes for a couple weeks the other wasn't so bad was back to work in a few days but man your eye is not 100% after that happens even if it is just a scratch it takes an hour or two just to stop blinking wildly and tearing and no eye drops will change that only that orange numbing crap that put in your eye. I think AV and Ramsey should both be canned for letting him go right back out there was only 48 seconds left putting in the back up wouldn't have hurt anything. I hope this doesn't give AV a pass to keeping his job and as for players output, I don't see a leader on this team. I don't see someone who will step up and hold players accountable. I was reading something a couple weeks ago about McL that stated he's becoming more vocal but is still getting a feel and not playing nightly certainly doesn't help that fact. That kid is a leader and he will hold players accountable but this team lacks leadership since MSL left.................RF MSL was the leader of this team and he held players accountable. I had heard whispers that he was very rough on guys and was well liked by a certain group of players but was always respected but he was like a rabid dog if he felt like you were mailing it in, or screwing around. He berated Hags in practice for dogging it, and this is a guy who never dogs it in a game but was goofing and dogging it in practice and MSL would have none of it. He was the leader and the guy who held the standard expected of this team, that is missing. Also look that RIchards was here the year they made the cup run another player known to be a very good leader and from what I understand when he was here it was his locker room along with MSL when he came in and now AV who is supposed to lead this team but doesn't has no one in there to do it for him.

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 11:47 am EST

BOB - It's been obvious all year that there is little leadership behind the bench and on the ice...The Rangers do not have THAT forward or D-man willing or able to be vocal or demanding enough of his teamates....KInda why I wanted a guy like LADD or some other grizzled vet...ALso thought maybe Staal might help there, but he's as quiet as his brother

Hospo


Thu Apr 14 2016 11:42 am EST

STEVIE _ i have no clue who all your quotes come from...but I was saying the same thing about the missed opportunities on 2-1's, 3-1's, odd man breaks....It's not lack of skill and talent....it's lack of chemistry, familiarity, and knowing what your linemates and teamates are will do....That falls on the coach for the way he has played with his lines and the way the players are unsure of each other

Hospo


Thu Apr 14 2016 11:34 am EST

hank was kicking his feet in pain, then comes to the bench for eye drops,,,,guess coach negative zero thought he was ok, just like play capt parmenter with a broken ankle in game 7 and dressing 7 d....and many other injuries he takes for granted....he coaches like he has 1 eye,,,, cyclops....and half a brain....with a big mouth....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 11:34 am EST

RF4L--I think you have hit on something here. AV has said that the accountability comes from inside the room. That appears to no longer be happening. Perhaps it was MSL who handled that before, but it does not appear to be working now. It just all seems so odd that a team that has had the playoff runs they have had, should not know what kind of effort is required or would mail in entire games or stretches of games. They appear to have an accountability problem.

Bob


Thu Apr 14 2016 11:30 am EST

2nd year in a row AV has stayed with a declining player too long and given oodles of ice time (last one was MSL). That said, Torts did the same with Richie-and when he finally sat him, HE got fired a few days later and Richards got another year in Ranger Blue. No easy answers I guess for coach.

puckyou


Thu Apr 14 2016 11:29 am EST

why is girardi out in the last minute of period 1 and 2..? ..i understand not scratching him somewhat, but making like he's the #1 d man is all on coach negative zero....and ulfie uuffaa....another guy blaming the players ......who put or left girardi out there after staal's stick on hank ? ...wasn't me.....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 11:28 am EST

BB--it is coming from nowhere. I opined that Henrik's injury could be a scratched cornea, detached retina or something. I was shaking my head last night that he did not come out of the game immediately. Look, they were in OK shape until the Henrik injury. They had possession and a lot of shots early in the 1st period, although only a few were dangerous. They had a good start to the second, then the Crosby breakaway and the wheels fell off.

Bob


Thu Apr 14 2016 11:25 am EST

For me unless a cup victory is realized, regardless of whether or not AV is canned, Gorton needs to do some serious roster reviews. There appears to be something wrong internally with this club - there's absolutely no excuse for a third (and sometimes more) of the roster routinely putting in half efforts. We watched it all season long and what happens in series 1, game 1? More of the same, led up front by IMO by Brassard and Nash (this time). Carp cited the fomer's stats: No shots and 0 for 5 on FOs for the first period and this the dude who allegedly is the team's go to PO performer. Nash was falling down again like a little leaguer and Miller was invisible (man after a fabulous stretch in the winter has he fallen back or what). I'm beginning to think York is right - as much as he didn't produce on the ice, MSL's dressing room presence is missed and that desperately needs to be addressed. FWIW as much as I like him, I think McD is the wrong choice as captain, although I see no one as an obvious candidate to take the C. Methinks Gorton has a ton of work to do this summer, unless, of course, somehow the ship is righted and a cup victory is realized.

RF4L


Thu Apr 14 2016 11:03 am EST

If I were a betting man I'd be leaning toward detached retina....if Hank is out maybe these assholes will pick up their game figuring they won't be bailed out as much by Raanta.

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 14 2016 11:00 am EST

For all those who wanted AV fired: After the stick to Lundquist's eye there's no way AV will be let go regardless of the outcome of this year's POs.

Ranger47


Thu Apr 14 2016 10:53 am EST

where is this detached retina diagnosis coming from? havent seen it anywhere except on this wall.

bLUEbLOOD


Thu Apr 14 2016 10:43 am EST

YORK-- Apparently, you think Jim Ramsey is an on-ice ophthalmologist. Detached retinas happen all the time from lesser shots than that one, and you cannot tell so quickly afterward without sitting in the chair in the eye doctor's office. And to your point, he and AV SHOULD both be fired for not taking Henrik out of the game immediately anyway. There is no way the guy was not constantly tear-ing up after that, and he had no business still being in the game. I doubt the first goal was the result of that injury, but how can anyone think that a goalie would not have trouble after a stick to the eye? This thing sure appears to be a mess right now. And the injuries to Henrik and McDonagh give AV an excuse for failure. I don't understand how they can look so disorganized so often during games, and why anyone would think that they are suddenly going to be consistent when they have not been all year. The bigger concern is the incredibly spotty effort from these players this year.

Bob


Thu Apr 14 2016 10:24 am EST

Hellberg recalled from Wolfpack.....Hank most likely going to be out unless they are playing head games....

Fotiu22


Thu Apr 14 2016 10:22 am EST

Accountability........... You dont perform and you keep screwing up. Bye Bye.

rangerlou


Thu Apr 14 2016 10:21 am EST

York Buddy i was thinking the same thought ( which is freaking Scary) ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rangerlou


Thu Apr 14 2016 10:18 am EST

Was never that high on Girardi especially after that Gaborik incident. He was built up to a first pair D because of Torts' system as much as any skillet he has. Or had. He has struggle more and more under AV and his gaffes have to demoralize the team even if nobody would ever admit it. These bad playoff performances go back to at least game 1 of the SCF against L.A. that OT unforced turnover for the loss was the turning point in his career IMO. Long time ago now to still be given the benefit of the doubt.

NYStranger


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:49 am EST

rangerlou... excellent question. It is AV's fatal flaw. Any other coach would have sat him for the good of the team. Loyalty is a powerful tool in sports, but when a player becomes a huge liability he is doing more harm than good. Girardi was a major part of three of the goals last night. He has been awful all year. I've always admired him as a person and player, but he simply cannot carry his own weight now. He has to sit...

Tucc


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:44 am EST

JOHN M on APRIL 14, 2016 10:35 AM At least 5 odd man rushes and no goals. Maybe 1 shot. I am just amazed at how un skilled the Ranger forwards are with the puck. No hockey moxy. No real chemistry between forwards. everyone seems to play their own style on offense.. Just ugly hockey. - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/14/game-1-rangers-penguins-in-review-2/#comment-2719579

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:35 am EST

LOU, I think he would have to just start shooting pucks at the Rangers net every time he touched the puck for him to get benched.

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:30 am EST

How bad does Girardi have to play before he gets pulled?? Simple question.

rangerlou


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:27 am EST

VIC when someone has done it as often as he has yes you should expect it, he has elevated his game like few can do, so you could, and sometimes do expect it, including his own team which take it for granted.

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:27 am EST

Vic.....no way do you take out Glass.....

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:26 am EST

Vic.....good points on Hayes from last night. I also posted he should sit and Lindberg should be in. My reason is that our CUP acquisition at the deadline is lost on the wing as is Hayes. I want to ride the Staal train in this series otherwise why did we get him. After last night I'd slot E. Stall in for Brassard and drop him to the 3rd line but Hayes does not work at the wing. So he's odd man out right now. And the Girardi thing is shocking......love the guy but I think Torts might have sat him or hidden him somewhere.....time for McI....Kudos to Shea.....future looks bright on D.

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:11 am EST

YORK: Who said HANK had never done it before? What I said was that you shouldn't expect it because down the stretch of the regular season HANK wasn't sharp at all. He played the first period like he played the last month or so.....shaky. As for the rest of your comments.....whatever. Not worth wasting time with you on it. Enjoy the ride!

Vic


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:08 am EST

TUCC: I would like to see McILRATH in for GIRARDI and LINDBERG or HRIVIK in for GLASS. The Pens aren't going to play a physical series and aren't looking to bully the Rangers. They are putting HAGS or CROSBY on their 4th line to exploit GLASS. With McILARATH in the lineup the Rangers don't need GLASS. I'd rather see a faster, more skilled player in that spot. Right now I'd go with HRIVIK because LINDBERG has played 1 game in a month. HRIVIK can hit the ground running and has played solid when he has been in the lineup.

Vic


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:05 am EST

It's all good Rangers come out in game two and they will win and tie the series up. MAF will be back and will do his best act of not stopping a few beach balls no worries. If these guys have any pride they will amp it up for game two

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:04 am EST

I agree that Lindberg needs to be in the lineup. And get Mcilraith in for Girardi. But AV won't make that change. If he had any balls Girardi would have been watching from the press box most of the season.

Tucc


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:03 am EST

BOB when you have guys as busted up as this team was in game 7 of the conference finals last year calling them meek is ridiculous. They lost but man they were busted up and playing like that isn't easy and anything but meek. Detached retina? Give me a break he would have been pulled right then and there, this is not pee wee hockey, they know the difference he might have a scratched cornea but not a detached retina and if he did the trainer should be fired on the spot for letting him go back in.....................VIC yeah why should anyone expect Hank to stand on his head and win a series or something like that because he's never done it before. What a shock you seem almost happy that they lost so you could come on here and feel right. LMAO yup superfan. As for Hayes I dont like his attitude, or his game, he acts like he's crosby but produces like shite. You talk up Hayes and slag the guy who had two goals ROFLMAO you're too funny. Yeah what did he do? He didn't do anything but score two goals, but man Hayes was amazing last night he managed to not be on the ice for one goal and passed the puck a few times damn he's good.................RF I was thinking about it last night, AV came in and the culture was still of Torts and then MSL came in and he's a Torts player very in your face and a leader, he took over that locker room and stayed till last year, he was the man leading this team, he's gone and the culture and accountability changed immediately and AV doesn't seem to have a want or care to get in a players face let alone the teams face and push them. If things go bad I see AV going in the offseason.

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 9:00 am EST

RF4L: I get that....I really do. But that is your expectation of him based on his size. That isn't his game. He is never going to be a fierce power forward. MZA is more of a PF then HAYES because that is his personality. Remember, it isn't the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog. If you judge him by what he isn't simply because of his size and what you think he should be then you miss what he actually is. If he was 5' 4" would be you ok with his game? He is a finesse player and always will be. He is a playmaking Center who has to have the puck to be effective. He isn't a guy like HAGS who is at his best when he doesn't have the puck. And one of the biggest complaints last night was that the Rangers took perimeter shots and didn't get any high quality scoring chances. Well, there are two ways to do that. One is the throw the puck at the net, with traffic to get rebounds and the other is to create plays that break down the defense and give teammates high quality scoring chances. HAYES is one of the very few on this team that can do the latter. So while I have issues with him and his game I appreciate what it is that he does bring to the table because the Rangers have so little of it.

Vic


Thu Apr 14 2016 8:59 am EST

Girardi has been a warrior for this team... he's played allot of hockey over the last 5 years. But he is by far one of the biggest liabilities on this team and has been for two years now. Putrid all season, yesterday was a microcosm of his play. Doesn't play to the whistle on the first goal, no foot speed to recover... bang - goal in the net. Shorthanded goal - soft floater into traffic and no foot speed to get back into the play - goal in the net - game over. I'd rather have a young kid in his play. Sure they will make mistakes, but at least they would have the energy and wheels to recover. Nash useless as ever. 7 million dollar checking forward. What a waste...

Tucc


Thu Apr 14 2016 8:43 am EST

Great lines from Rick Capiniello.......... Girardi’s been awful in this nightmarish season, but when he starts making decisions like that, he and they are in big trouble. Just a brain-freeze. An unforgivable gaffe. Inexcusable. Girardi quit on it, coasted back, was late to get to Conor Sheary behind the net. Sheary’s pass hit Lundqvist and caromed to the front. Marc Staal watched. Derek Stepan watched. Eric Staal watched. Spectators all. And Patric Hornqvist scored UNCONTESTED from the slot. “Uncontested” is going to be the title of my book about this season.

rangerlou


Thu Apr 14 2016 8:40 am EST

Folks it does not matter who the Penguins have in Goal.Does not matter at all. If we are not willing to camp out around the crease. Or screen him. Or make his life miserable nothing will change.

rangerlou


Thu Apr 14 2016 8:24 am EST

To me, the fact that Hank was unable to return for periods 2 & 3 puts even more of the responsibility on Coach Negative Zero & Jim Ramsey as well… A bad coaching decision to let the player either call the shot about continuing or the coach/trainer not having the balls to say...”hey, only a minute or so left in the period...go rest / get checked out.” So my ? remains...why allow him to finish so close to the end of the period, when his sight was probably at its worst after the incident happened? Yeah, hindsight is 20/20 (no pun intended) but I think it is one of the failures that was not the result of “I do know we have quite a few guys that have to play better than they did.” After that they went down, down, down... into the ring of fire. Apologies to mf for not including the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY

RF73


Thu Apr 14 2016 8:11 am EST

Vic: I just find he plays with zero intensity and with the skillset he has, it's maddening. Imagine how effective he would be if he amped things up? He'd be a premium power forward without a doubt. That's why he draws the ire of many I suspect. Agreed that Brassard was invisible and where have we seen that story before? Alas, we have a veteran stroking coach. I mean Girardi shouldn't even dress Saturday but no doubt will be out there, taking his regular turn.

RF4L


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:57 am EST

And I've got to say the myopic tendency for folks here to somehow blame HAYES for everything that goes wrong with this team is mind boggling. "HAYES needs to go. HAYES needs to be benched. Get GIRARDI and HAYES out." Do you folks realize that HAYES was one of the Rangers best players last night? I guess not. He wasn't on the ice for any of the goals against last night. He made some really nice plays to setup coring chances for STAAL and a beauty from behind the net to one of the Rangers D cutting in for an excellent scoring chance from the slot. He drew a penalty. He only played 12 minutes with 24 seconds of PP time and yet was way more productive then most in the top 6 who played 50% more and gobbled up all of the PP time. If not for the PP BRASSARD might not have registered a stat last night. STEPAN had two goals on a tap in and a rebound. Give him credit for going to the net and being there. I thought he had a decent game but what did he create for anyone else last night? He is one of this team's top 2 centers who is supposed be a great passer and playmaker. Did he create a scoring chance for anyone else last night? You had two players creating offense at even strength last night (MZA and HAYES). And you guys want to sit one of those two? You think they had a pop gun offense last night and you want to sit one of the two that actually created any? Go look at the advanced stats (http://war-on-ice.com/game2.html?seasongcode=2015201630141). And don't throw the "HAYES doesn't hit anyone or play hard" crap out because he did last night. He hit and more importantly I saw him power through two hits in one sequence behind the Pens goal where the two Pens bounced off him. It was nice to see him use his size that way because we haven't seen enough of it. I hate that I feel like I have to come in here and defend HAYES constantly because there are a few things that piss me off about his game. But for crying out loud please place the blame for last night where it belongs and not on the Wall Whipping Boy who actually was one of the team's best players last night.

Vic


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:56 am EST

After a night of sleep I'm still depressed. The primary reason (besides the obvoius - they lost) is that the same crap that hurt them is so many games this season hurt them last night, which is only logical. For me the biggest single issue is how many players aren't showing up and yes that's on the players but it starts with the coach. How ironic is it that the previous coach was too harsh and this dude is too lenient. What the phuck do these pampered athletes want anyways?

RF4L


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:44 am EST

I also thought Hank looked off.......whatever the reason for him leaving practice in my opinion he was not 100%.

MelvilleFred


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:41 am EST

Some good news surfaced after the Rangers lost to the Pittsburgh Penguins Wednesday night in Game One of the First Round playoffs. Henrik Lundqvist, who accidentally took Marc Staal's stick through his mask and into his right eye, could not finish the game but reportedly did not take any permanent damage from the incident per this tweet: Lugnande besked om Henrik Lundqvist fr brorsan Joel som.textat m honom: Ingen fara för synen. Spelbar? Äh, Joel avslöjade inget. #twittpuck — Henrik Leman (@henrikleman) April 14, 2016 Rough translation from Blueshirt Banter's foreign correspondent Alex Nunn: "Joel Lundqvist talked to Hank via text. No danger to his eyesight but does not know if he will be able to play." First off, deep sign of relief that there's no permanent damage to his eye if this report is true. As always in situations like this, his life outside of hockey is the more important update. I think you can take this report to heart, as Lundqvist's own twin would know whether or not there's any long-term concern. Eye injuries can be difficult to pin down, so while it's a good sign that Lundqvist doesn't have any permanent damage it wouldn't surprise me to see him miss some time with this. We'll update as the situation develops.

RF73


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:39 am EST

GENE: I noticed the same things. HANK looked shaky to me. He looked much like he has the last few weeks. Shaky and inconsistent. If folks were thinking the Rangers were going to win this series because HANK was going to be the superior goaltender and carry them to a victory they were kidding themselves. With or without the eye injury that AHL goaltender on the other side outplayed HANK in the first period. I'm not going to blame RAANTA for any of the goals scored against him. He made some great saves but if you are going to ask him to take on the Pens with little to no help from his own team you can't expect him to win any of these games.

Vic


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:37 am EST

Looking into the abyss of mediocrity, which is standing directly in front of us. The rangers window was closing last year when the Rangers went out meekly against Tampa, and all that is left now is to lock the window shut. Somehow, the culture of the team has changed. The Rangers can no longer be counted on to put out the necessary effort on a consistent basis. They also cannot be counted on to make the smart play. Honestly, this entire show has the potential of crashing through the floor very quickly. They go out quickly this round, they are in cap hell with RFA's to sign, and UFA's that they will have to let walk away. And not to be too crazy, but there is no way to know how serious the injury to Henrik is. Scratched cornea? Detached retina? A defenseman (Staal) can get by with lesser vision, a goalie cannot. The better coached-better prepared team won that game last night and they put out more effort for 60 minutes as well. To be honest, the biggest thing about these guys that is irritating is that they do not have it in them to put out 100% effort. Last night was littered with floaters. I mean, it's the playoffs for crying out loud.

Bob


Thu Apr 14 2016 7:17 am EST

The game I watched showed Lundquest to be very unstable and not moving with any confidence before the poke to the eye. He will not be the deciding factor in this series and the sooner the rest of the crew realizes that, the odds of our winning will be greatly improved.

gene_carr


Thu Apr 14 2016 6:36 am EST

1) This is like shootin’ fish in a barrel. It’s almost too easy. There’s not a lot of analysis required, because A) you all saw it and it sure wasn’t complicated and B) it’s now been happening for 83 games. 2) Part of the problem, as well, is that some treated this as just another of the 83, as they treated Game 81 or 41 or 21. Which is to say, why bother? Some of the Rangers didn’t even bother. Like a skate on the pond. 3) Before we get to what happened, and what didn’t happen, between whistles, let’s start with what happened after a whistle, after Henrik Lundqvist was hit in the right eye by Marc Staal’s stickblade, which snuck through the bars of Lundqvist’s mask – his third injury in a year and a half caused by one of his defensemen, the other two by Ryan McDonagh. 4) So Lundqvist takes one in the eye. First of all, this is a classic hindsight (no pun intended) 20/20 second guess. But he should not have played those last 48 seconds of the first period. I mean, you’re eyes are watering, got to be a bit blurry, maybe a little shaken up. Take him out right there. 5) Not saying that decision had anything to do with the goal, because there were plenty of worse decisions on the goal, and Lundqvist probably doesn’t stop that shot no matter what. But I thought it was crazy that he was still in there, and I figured there was a chance the eye would swell and he wouldn’t be back to start the first. Henrik Lundqvist6) But until that whole thing happened – the stick to the eye with 48 seconds left in the period, the goal with 18 seconds left – the Rangers were fine. Just fine. Not great, but certainly competing, certainly doing a lot of things on their checklists, certainly getting pucks on a third-string goalie, Jeff Zatkoff, who remarkably started when everybody in Pittsburgh, including the Rangers, were sure it would be Marc-Andre Fleury. They were fine at 0-0. 7) And then … what a lousy but typical play by the Rangers that handed Pittsburgh a goal. Kris Letang flipped it over everybody from outside the red line. Dan Girardi thought it should be icing. He stopped skating and raised his hand. 8) I mean, Girardi’s been awful in this nightmarish season, but when he starts making decisions like that, he and they are in big trouble. Just a brain-freeze. An unforgivable gaffe. Inexcusable. Girardi quit on it, coasted back, was late to get to Conor Sheary behind the net. Sheary’s pass hit Lundqvist and caromed to the front. Marc Staal watched. Derek Stepan watched. Eric Staal watched. Spectators all. And Patric Hornqvist scored UNCONTESTED from the slot. “Uncontested” is going to be the title of my book about this season. 9) Before we get into more detail about the game, let’s talk about the situation a bit. I thought – honestly – that a number of guys showed up, stepped up their games as promised. But that number was too small. Ulf Samuelsson told that to John Giannone between periods. Alain Vigneault mentioned it post-game. And holy cripes, what is it going to take for all 20 guys to play a 60-minute game this season? Game 1 of the playoffs isn’t important enough? 10) So don’t give me that crap about this team being related to the previous four. The previous four lost games, and at times didn’t bring it hard enough in games it didn’t absolutely need sometimes. But it rarely had this many passengers in this many games. Not nearly good enough. 11) You saw and know who they are. And I’m not talking about guys who might not have played well. I’m talking about effort, like Girardi’s on that play. Like Big Game Brass, who leads the team in games like this, failing to even attempt a shot in the first period, while going 0-for-5 on draws. He picked it up after the first 25 minutes or so, but yikes, this wasn’t a big enough game to bust it from the anthem on? 12) AV pointed out the two guys on the back-breaking short-handed goal, after the Rangers cut it to 2-1, where Keith Yandle was the only one back and failed to either take the shooter, Nick Bonino or take away the pass by going to Tom Kuhnhackl on the wing (which is the correct play; you give the shot and let the goalie handle that). Pass went right through, easily. 3-1. Worse, Dan Boyle and J.T. Miller, who were up ice, both went straight-legged. As AV said, didn’t even “take a stride” to get back. Worse, Rick Nash chose to go for a change. Not that he could have done anything by staying on, but supposed there’s a long rebound, or Yandle breaks up the pass? He needs support there, and he got none. Antti Raanta13) Or I should say, Antti Raanta got none. Zero. Just disgraceful. 14) Raanta might be the Rangers’ hope for Game 2, depending on Lundqvist’s reevaluation today. And I wouldn’t be surprised, after the Fleury-Zatkoff shell game that Smilin’ Mike Sullivan pulled off for Game 1, if there is no info at all on Lundqvist until 3 p.m. Saturday. 15) I’ve said this a few times lately. Lundqvist is going to have to play out of his mind for the Rangers to win this series, or go anywhere in these playoffs. Raanta has been a really good backup, capable of playing terrific games. But I don’t think he has that level of play in his arsenal. In other words, if Lundqvist is down, the Rangers are done. IMO. 16) More on the situation: This is the Rangers’ 15th playoff series in five seasons. This is the fifth time they dropped Game 1 – against Boston in ’13 and Los Angeles in ’14 they lost Game 1 and were eliminated in five. Against Washington in ’13 and in ’15, they lost Game 1 and came back to win in seven – they were actually down 2-0 in ’13, and were down 3-1 in ’15. 17) Before this five-year run, the previous five times they lost Game 1, they lost the series. In 1997, they lost Game 1 three times but reached the Conference Final. In 1995 and ’96, they lost four Game 1s, but split the four series. In ’94, of course, they lost Game 1 of the Eastern Final and the Cup Final, and won both in seven. … You know how I always predict it will be 1-1 after two and 2-2 after four? I’m not even thinking that this time, certainly not saying it. 18) The theory that these Rangers, coming off this ridiculously up-and-down season where they beat so many really good teams and ended up with a very respectable record, but stunk it up so many nights, would flip a pedigree switch when the playoffs began was half-baked at best. 19) A lot of the same old bugaboos showed up for Game 1 – the awful coverage around their own net, the penalty kill, two more goals late in periods – one with :18 left in the first, one with 1:04 left in the second. The wheels flying off, again, with two Pittsburgh goals – the power-play goal and the short-handed in 2:31. 20) Not sure what adjustments AV can make for Game 2, because the same stuff has happened for so much of Game 1-through-83. Does he now actually consider Dylan McIlrath for the overmatched Girardi? Not sure he can toss that kid onto the moving train against Sidney Crosby and Hornqvist and Chris Kunitz. He certainly can’t face Carl Hagelin and Phil Kessel. Does Vigneault make a move up front, inserting a faster, defensive minded Oscar Lindberg or Marek Hrivik? Does any of that matter if so many of the top six forwards and top four defensemen play that way? Would it be shuffling deck chairs? 21) Also, how do you get the Rangers to not be one of the worst teams in the league against the trap, or whatever the Penguins’ neutral-zone clogging is called, if they won’t dump it and go to work? Patric Hornqvist, Sidney Crosby, Marc Staal22) So Game 1 starts, and right off the bat, turnover, Kessel shot. Defensive breakdown, Crosby shot. 23) Zatkoff, almost three minutes in, stopped Miller with a good chance, off a setup by Brassard. Then Kevin Hayes with a terrific chance, another save. Then one by Jesper Fast (who doled out eight hits). The Rangers were actually testing Zatkoff. Marc Staal shot it right into him, with empty left side. Shots 12-3 at that point. I thought not only were they putting rubber on Zatkoff, but they were engaged, too, physical, snarly. 24) Referee Tim Peel decided to put his stamp on the game. That penalty to Viktor Stalberg off the draw? France in the air. But I was sure our fine, fine NHL referees would make that same soft call in the third period, right? 25) Then another even worse phantom call on Stalberg’s hit on Ian Cole. They called it a head shot. None of them was even sure which Ranger committed the foul – maybe because there was no foul. It was shoulder-to-shoulder, perhaps legal incidental contact with the head, though I didn’t see any. This type of incompetent officiating will cost some team a series, maybe a Cup. They called Eric Fehr for a tiny snow shower on Lundqvist. Peel knows this is the playoffs, not a badminton tournament in the back yard, right? Peel wasn’t good enough to work playoffs last spring. Shows you the state of NHL referees. 26) So the Rangers got a power play on the Fehr penalty and dodged a bullet when Hagelin’s short-handed deflection sailed over the crossbar. 27) Lundqvist stopped Trevor Daley as Penguins turned it around late in the period with help from the calls and the Rangers’ inept power play. Then a big stop on Kunitz before he got hurt. Lundqvist actually made an accidental save after he was hurt, as he was going down. 28) Then Girardi, et al, combined to hand the Penguins the lead before the buzzer. 29) Worse, Lundqvist’s right eye must have swelled shut and Raanta started the second, his playoff debut. Santino Vasquez was boarding a plane in Minnesota. Worse, Chris Kreider took a mindless offensive-zone interference on Kris Letang, and during the power play, Kunitz ripped one off the post through Girardi’s snow angel. 30) Nash, who did a few good things – and I don’t want to type it any more than you guys want to read it — with the backcheck to stop a Crosby-Hornqvist rush. Then he had the slow-motion, short-handed 2-on-1 chance from Stepan and drew the penalty during another dumb penalty, by Dom Moore. That Rangers power play was much better than the first. How could it not be? 31) Zatkoff made two saves on Zuccarello, one on Kreider. Might have gotten a piece of Stepan shot. Brassard’s shot may have been deflected wide. With 1:53 left in second, 1-0, Raanta made a huge save on Hagelin’s deflection of a Daley shot, then made one on Sheary, set up by Crosby. Jeff Zatkoff, Trevor Daley32) But, of course, 1:04 left, Girardi’s shot was blocked, he and Marc Staal flat-footed. Both dived at center ice, neither could stop the Hornqvist pass. Crosby flies the zone for a breakaway, beats Raanta. 2-0. 33) The Rangers came at the Penguins early in the third, hit a pipe. Then the officials actually had the onions to make the correct calls, a double-minor to Hagelin (for cutting Hayes), a minor to Cole (for cross-checking Eric Staal). The Rangers hit the jackpot. A 5-on-3 and four minutes worth of power play. It took them a few moments to figure it out, then Brassard went high-to-low to Nash, who threw it across the crease to Stepan for a dunk, a two-man power play to perfection. 2-1. Back in it? Uh, no. The critical, unacceptable, short-handed Kuhnhackl goal. 3-1 and the wheels coming off. 34) Eric Staal went to the box for running over Zatkoff, the Rangers’ pathetic PK does it again, UNCONTESTED goal by Hornqvist after original shot deflected off Kessel. Again, Girardi – who fronted Kessel — – and Staal leaving Hornqvist alone. 4-1. Wheels off. 35) Zuccarello sent Boyle in, cut to the middle for a shot, and Stepan short-sided the rebond for his second of the game. 4-2. But Hornqvist scored the empty-netter to bring out the hats. 36) Smilin’ Mike scratched Tom “Tostitos” Sestito and double-shifted Crosby and Hagelin on the fourth line, with great results. If he plays Sestito, the Rangers surely win. Sullivan’s team gets sticks on a lot of pucks, and blocks a ton. Wonder where Sully ever saw that succeed. 37) I know you guys can’t stand him, and his playoff beard is going to be one of the worst in the league, but damn that Sidney Crosby can play. Some of the best hockey of his career, I think, since December. Once he got rid of another coach. 38) How about the jackwagon who yelled “Flyers suck!” during the moment of silence for Ed Snider? Some people are too stupid to be among us. 39) Maybe the Rangers should have tanked. It could have been them instead of Brooklyn vs. Del Boca Vista. 40) Hey, you announcers out there. Remember, the Penguins have “momentum.” And if the Rangers win Game 2, they will have stolen “home-ice advantage.” 41) Does MSG really think any Rangers fan is going to watch a show with Rick DiPietro? ********************************************** - See more at: http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2016/04/14/game-1-rangers-penguins-in-review-2/#sthash.QPrJ0Hna.dpuf

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 6:25 am EST

so the nyr basically gave up 2 shorties, 1 on the pp and one 6-5 with raanta pulled at the insane time of 3 minutes left in a 4-2 game....pure genius negative zero....that must be the players' fault too...certainly not the coaching staff....they didn't send girardi out with 1 minute left in the 1st and 2nd, he went out on his own, and they didn't tell dick run to the bench rash to come off while the pigpens were going for the shortie...they make negative zero mistakes, and when they win they made all the right decisions....when does this staff ever share in the blame?....

stevielegs


Thu Apr 14 2016 5:40 am EST

OLA I agree, the Staal this team wants and the Staal that is here are two completely different players. I said that too much was given up on him, he was way more on the downside of his career than MSL, was at the time of the trades................HOSPO I agree AV was out coached, last night was a prime example of why people who cry about the Rangers getting outshot need to realize there is a difference between shots and scoring chances. The Rangers were shooting from anywhere but high scoring chances. AV needs to get this team fired up and needs to sit Girardi and Hayes IMO. Girardi was still bad and the fool stops to talk to a ref during play? AV should bench him for that alone, and AV keeping Hank in net is a WTF were you thinking moment.I still believe the Rangers can and will win this but they need to play smarter, not just better. Plus the league can't keep helping out the pens they are getting pinned down and momentum is not in their corner, the ice was tilted to their end for more than half the first period. To take away momentum two complere bullshite phantom calls were given in a row to the pens one was so bad they didn't even know who they called it on?!?!?!?! A ref all the way on the other end of the ice called a hit on a player that was 10 feet from the ref who was watching the play and didn't make the call BS!

York18


Thu Apr 14 2016 4:47 am EST

Quote of the day “I do know we have quite a few guys that have to play better than they did.” — Coach Alain (Negative Zero) Vigneault

RF73


Thu Apr 14 2016 4:43 am EST

Courtesy L.B. - Sometimes — most of the time, really — Game 1 is just one game of a best-of-seven with minimal enduring consequence. But not this Game 1 of Rangers-Penguins, on Wednesday night. And not this Period 1 of Round 1. Because in this period, the Rangers not only failed to take advantage of the fact the Penguins were forced to start third-string goaltender Jeff Zatkoff in the wake of head injuries to Marc-Andre Fleury and Matt Murray, but also the Blueshirts lost Henrik Lundqvist to a right-eye injury. And, poof, just like that, the singular advantage the Blueshirts brought into this series had evaporated into the night that ended in a 5-2 defeat in their worst Game 1 performance of any playoff series since facing Buffalo in the second round in 2007.

RF73


Thu Apr 14 2016 1:41 am EST

I am getting a little sick of the talk about finding wingers for Staal. How about Staal making his wingers work? Making the players around him better? Let's call a spade a spade here. Staal makes the odd play that is good. I figure we are better with him than without him. But he just contributes very little overall out there. No speed or intensity. Of our top 3 centers, only one skates well. Brassard. We just don't have much speed out there and that is showing.

Ola


Wed Apr 13 2016 11:49 pm EST

NICK - you could be right but right now the pens have Crosby, a 1-d Kessel and what? Hornqvist who fights and fights in front of the net...They are maximizing their questionable talent everywhere else with hard work and coaching....We obviously disagree on the talent level of the Rangers but there's ni denying that AV's coaching, line combos, game planning nd lack of motivation has minimized the Rangers talent/production..At least IMWO..

Hospo


Wed Apr 13 2016 11:30 pm EST

sorry Nick and Hospo but this coach had no business leaving hank in after that stick to the eye with 48 seconds left helping it to be 1-0. Any player would not be put back out, but he puts his goalie back out? And then he pulls raanta in a 4-2 game with 3 minutes left, and helping they make it 5-3....poor coaching decisions that should only be tried in preseason, not in the post season.....that's been my biggest concern, this coach in the post season. and that's not excusing the players, but he put them in a hole then threw dirt on them......

stevielegs


Wed Apr 13 2016 11:16 pm EST

Hospo I know you're bummed but I gotta say this club's window is slamming on their fingers. Truthfully I know zero about coaching but they did make the finals 2 years ago and were within the Killorn Killer last year. Man I can still see that scorching backhander rip through the net and dent the back wall. But I digress. I also don't see how the NYR have the talent edge over Pitt. This is a team with two second lines, a third and a fourth. The D peaked last year and reverted this time around. And I don't think they've played 60 minutes all year. That stiff-legged glide back by Miller on the shorty? Come on, JT. Gassed or not you gotta give ALL on that play, even if you fail.

Nick


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:56 pm EST

I told ya so....I said this.....But seriously, feel like shit after that game..Hate the Pen fans, the announcers, Crosby...Unfortunately, this game did little to change how i feel t abouthese teams...Rangers are more talented and actually played pretty good at times......but...the Pens are better coached...They are getting more out of lesser talent....following their season ending game plan to a T.....they are playing a bit smarter..and are playing fairly disciplined both ways..not like former Penguin teams.....OTOH, the Ranger forwards still seem like they are learning each other with little instinct and chemistry apparent half the time Rangers (screwing up 2-1's and 3-1's)....they also choose to play the easy perimeter game far too often......It;s obvious it's not going to be like turning on the faucet..and winning becuase of talent.It's gonna take harder and smarter work then the Rangers showed tonught....It can be done....Are they up to it? Is their coach?

Hospo


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:46 pm EST

fishtoupe troutwig told duguay next time he wears that jacket bring him a menu...lol....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:43 pm EST

‎@rangersreport Sounds like AV was calling out Miller and Boyle for floating back on the back-breaking SHG. Awful

stevielegs


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:40 pm EST

valli just called him jack zafcock.....

stevielegs


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:35 pm EST

moof more cowbell...

stevielegs


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:30 pm EST

Hey, I didn't approve that song, wtf?

mf


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:30 pm EST

It's time to give McIlrath Playoff minutes, Girardi's play offsets the risks of any rookie mistakes.... Big Mac will help the D-corps (imo naturally) Next, bench Hayes for Lindberg.........

mf


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:30 pm EST

valliquette says pigpens had the puck 2/3 of the time ad says this site keeps track of it.....http://sportlogiq.com/

stevielegs


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:25 pm EST

I fell into a burnin' ring of fire...I went down, down, down... And the flames went higher...And it burns, burns, burns...The ring of fire, the ring of fire.

RF73


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:22 pm EST

Wow that sucked did everything right in the first fell apart in the second. Skeij played great as did Stepan. Not sure why Hank was still in net to open the gates. Its one game I said they would split the road games. I'm disappointed in the outcome but AV really just doesn't seem to command respect from his bench.

York18


Wed Apr 13 2016 10:21 pm EST

Man the media just serves up softballs to AssVee. These sports reporters are another joke these days. This shite is so